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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,393 --> 00:00:08,995 This week on "Vice," Thomas heads to Indonesia, 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:12,531 where they think smoking doesn't cause cancer, it cures it. 3 00:00:12,651 --> 00:00:15,974 _ 4 00:00:16,704 --> 00:00:18,705 And I travel from New York to Mexico, 5 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:21,709 where an addict tries to kick the most addictive drug in the world 6 00:00:21,743 --> 00:00:24,078 by using the scariest drug in the world. 7 00:00:24,113 --> 00:00:25,647 I just want to be happy, you know. 8 00:00:25,681 --> 00:00:27,015 I just want to wake up in the morning 9 00:00:27,049 --> 00:00:28,783 and, you know, not want to fucking 10 00:00:28,818 --> 00:00:30,518 blow my brains out every day. 11 00:00:30,553 --> 00:00:31,486 That would be nice. 12 00:00:36,393 --> 00:00:37,793 The world is changing. 13 00:00:39,196 --> 00:00:41,564 Now, no one knows where it's going, 14 00:00:41,598 --> 00:00:43,766 but we'll be there uncovering the news... 15 00:00:43,801 --> 00:00:45,501 This is World War III. 16 00:00:45,536 --> 00:00:48,171 culture, and politics 17 00:00:48,206 --> 00:00:52,309 that expose the absurdity of the modern condition. 18 00:00:52,343 --> 00:00:54,411 That little child has a huge gun. 19 00:00:54,445 --> 00:00:56,580 This scene isn't really kosher 20 00:00:56,615 --> 00:00:58,249 by American standards. 21 00:00:58,283 --> 00:01:00,985 I was interviewing suicide bombers, and they were kids. 22 00:01:01,019 --> 00:01:03,220 This is the world through our eyes. 23 00:01:03,255 --> 00:01:05,055 We win or we die! 24 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:07,525 This is the world of "Vice." 25 00:01:07,849 --> 00:01:13,831 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 26 00:01:13,865 --> 00:01:15,199 Hi. I'm Shane Smith and we're here in 27 00:01:15,233 --> 00:01:17,167 the "Vice" offices of Brooklyn, New York. 28 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:19,670 For our first story this week, we go to Indonesia. 29 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:21,138 Lucy. Yes, dear. 30 00:01:21,172 --> 00:01:22,272 Get me a cigarette, will you, hon? 31 00:01:22,307 --> 00:01:25,442 Don't say cigarette. Say Philip Morris. Oh? 32 00:01:25,477 --> 00:01:26,777 Before we woke up to the fact 33 00:01:26,811 --> 00:01:30,381 that smoking is actually very, very bad for us, 34 00:01:30,415 --> 00:01:31,849 it used to be everywhere-- 35 00:01:31,884 --> 00:01:35,554 movies, TV, advertising, even doctors' offices. 36 00:01:35,588 --> 00:01:38,424 Everybody smoked. Then landmark legislation 37 00:01:38,458 --> 00:01:40,526 made it much harder to promote cigarettes here, 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,729 and as a result, tobacco use is on the decline. 39 00:01:43,764 --> 00:01:45,284 But there are still places in the world 40 00:01:45,299 --> 00:01:47,400 where no such legislation was enacted, 41 00:01:47,434 --> 00:01:50,504 and as such, smoking has been left to evolve on its own, 42 00:01:50,538 --> 00:01:52,005 completely unchecked. 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,141 So, we sent Thomas Morton to Indonesia 44 00:01:54,175 --> 00:01:55,809 to see what happens to a country 45 00:01:55,843 --> 00:01:58,445 that refuses to regulate its tobacco. 46 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:06,943 _ 47 00:02:10,625 --> 00:02:12,593 It's Thomas. I'm in a clinic in Indonesia. 48 00:02:12,627 --> 00:02:15,229 I'm being cured of my acne by smoking 49 00:02:15,263 --> 00:02:18,499 and having something sucked out of my ear. 50 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:20,301 This is also good for cancer. 51 00:02:20,335 --> 00:02:21,502 Curing cancer, not causing it. 52 00:02:24,372 --> 00:02:26,807 While smoking's been on steady decline in the West 53 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:29,109 from close to half of all adults to 1/5 54 00:02:29,143 --> 00:02:30,577 in the course of 40 years, 55 00:02:30,612 --> 00:02:32,746 the East still loves their cigarettes. 56 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:35,649 In 2005, Philip Morris bought Sampoerna Cigarettes, 57 00:02:35,683 --> 00:02:37,784 the third-largest cigarette maker in Indonesia, 58 00:02:37,818 --> 00:02:39,719 for $5 billion. 59 00:02:39,753 --> 00:02:42,155 Why spend that much money on a runner-up tobacco company 60 00:02:42,189 --> 00:02:44,190 in a country on the opposite side of the Earth? 61 00:02:44,225 --> 00:02:47,226 Simple--because Indonesia is a smoker's paradise. 62 00:02:47,261 --> 00:02:49,262 2/3 of Indonesian men smoke, 63 00:02:49,296 --> 00:02:51,731 this in a country of a quarter-billion people. 64 00:02:51,765 --> 00:02:53,266 And not only does everyone here smoke, 65 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:55,869 it's also home to the biggest tobacco industry in Asia, 66 00:02:55,904 --> 00:02:59,173 so cornering the market is just a simple matter of buying in. 67 00:02:59,208 --> 00:03:01,342 Roy Anise was senior vice president of Philip Morris 68 00:03:01,376 --> 00:03:02,877 during Big Tobacco's darkest hour, 69 00:03:02,911 --> 00:03:04,578 during the eighties and nineties. 70 00:03:04,613 --> 00:03:05,913 It was a difficult period. 71 00:03:05,947 --> 00:03:08,382 When the lawsuits came, restrictions came, 72 00:03:08,417 --> 00:03:11,052 taxation came, it was difficult 73 00:03:11,086 --> 00:03:14,556 for the company to really internalize because 74 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:17,325 it was a legal product, it was recognized as having harm, 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,094 but yet it was considered to be acceptable. 76 00:03:19,129 --> 00:03:21,330 It started to become denormalized, 77 00:03:21,364 --> 00:03:23,699 and then demonized, 78 00:03:23,733 --> 00:03:24,834 and it moved much quicker than I think 79 00:03:24,868 --> 00:03:26,602 than many people had anticipated. 80 00:03:26,637 --> 00:03:27,904 It just changed the game. 81 00:03:27,938 --> 00:03:30,039 It needed to become more creative in a different way. 82 00:03:32,642 --> 00:03:34,682 Unlike in the United States, where cigarettes 83 00:03:34,711 --> 00:03:36,745 had been declining since the early 1980s, 84 00:03:36,779 --> 00:03:38,714 in many other parts of the world, cigarettes were growing 85 00:03:38,748 --> 00:03:41,082 and growing quite well for Philip Morris International, 86 00:03:41,117 --> 00:03:43,017 and continue to do so. 87 00:03:43,052 --> 00:03:45,486 Despite having some of the lowest cigarette taxes in the world, 88 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,489 the average Indonesian household spends more money on smokes 89 00:03:48,524 --> 00:03:49,957 than anything else but rice. 90 00:03:49,992 --> 00:03:51,826 It's a boom town for tobacco. 91 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:54,995 Tulus Abadi heads the National Commission for Tobacco Control. 92 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:56,910 He's one of the only guys in the Indo government 93 00:03:56,932 --> 00:03:58,533 fighting against smoking. 94 00:03:58,567 --> 00:03:59,734 How big is the problem? 95 00:03:59,768 --> 00:04:01,335 How many Indonesians smoke? 96 00:04:01,455 --> 00:04:03,081 _ 97 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:04,298 _ 98 00:04:04,418 --> 00:04:08,407 _ 99 00:04:08,723 --> 00:04:11,207 _ 100 00:04:11,327 --> 00:04:16,205 _ 101 00:04:16,465 --> 00:04:18,506 _ 102 00:04:18,626 --> 00:04:20,676 _ 103 00:04:20,796 --> 00:04:23,729 _ 104 00:04:24,324 --> 00:04:26,826 When this video of Indonesia's famous baby smoker 105 00:04:26,861 --> 00:04:27,861 hit YouTube, 106 00:04:27,895 --> 00:04:29,395 most Westerners were aghast, 107 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:31,397 but Indonesians just shrugged. 108 00:04:31,432 --> 00:04:34,300 By the time they're 16, one out of every 4 Indo teenagers 109 00:04:34,335 --> 00:04:35,768 is a regular smoker. 110 00:04:35,803 --> 00:04:37,404 Half if you just count the guys. 111 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:44,663 _ 112 00:04:44,912 --> 00:04:46,012 The average pack of cigarettes 113 00:04:46,046 --> 00:04:47,380 costs less than a dollar here, 114 00:04:47,414 --> 00:04:49,715 and you can pick up loosies for a few cents. 115 00:04:49,750 --> 00:04:50,916 So, most kids can afford them 116 00:04:50,951 --> 00:04:52,418 on their milk money allowance, 117 00:04:52,452 --> 00:04:54,220 like our 9-year-old buddy Rifki. 118 00:04:54,926 --> 00:04:57,460 _ 119 00:04:57,580 --> 00:04:59,105 _ 120 00:04:59,225 --> 00:05:02,227 So, uh, Rifki's picking up his morning pack of cigarettes, 121 00:05:02,261 --> 00:05:03,795 and then we're off to school. 122 00:05:08,468 --> 00:05:09,501 Do you think you'll ever be able 123 00:05:09,535 --> 00:05:11,136 to get Rifki to quit smoking? 124 00:05:11,256 --> 00:05:12,962 _ 125 00:05:13,294 --> 00:05:15,823 _ 126 00:05:15,943 --> 00:05:17,968 _ 127 00:05:18,088 --> 00:05:20,167 _ 128 00:05:20,581 --> 00:05:22,115 Why do you think Rifki started smoking? 129 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:23,917 Like, who do you think is to blame for that? 130 00:05:24,037 --> 00:05:27,180 _ 131 00:05:27,390 --> 00:05:31,305 _ 132 00:05:31,425 --> 00:05:33,265 _ 133 00:05:33,531 --> 00:05:35,013 _ 134 00:05:35,133 --> 00:05:36,711 _ 135 00:05:39,167 --> 00:05:41,068 After school let out, Rifki and his pals 136 00:05:41,102 --> 00:05:43,003 took us to their neighborhood smoking spot, 137 00:05:43,037 --> 00:05:44,604 the old Chinese graveyard. 138 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,373 Just take a right at the 139 00:05:46,407 --> 00:05:48,107 cigarette-sponsored badminton court. 140 00:05:49,343 --> 00:05:51,010 So, this is the-- this is the cool kids' spot. 141 00:05:51,045 --> 00:05:52,178 So, what's up, guys? 142 00:05:52,298 --> 00:05:56,333 _ 143 00:05:56,592 --> 00:05:57,715 _ 144 00:05:57,835 --> 00:05:59,133 _ 145 00:05:59,253 --> 00:06:00,386 This is a real all-ages group. 146 00:06:00,421 --> 00:06:01,854 This is like, kind of like 147 00:06:01,888 --> 00:06:04,190 the cast of, like, Indonesian "Little Rascals" here. 148 00:06:04,224 --> 00:06:05,357 How long have you smoked? 149 00:06:05,477 --> 00:06:06,904 _ 150 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:08,661 What do you like about smoking? 151 00:06:08,968 --> 00:06:12,728 _ 152 00:06:13,019 --> 00:06:14,449 _ 153 00:06:14,569 --> 00:06:16,169 Do grownups here care if you smoke? 154 00:06:16,417 --> 00:06:19,967 _ 155 00:06:20,208 --> 00:06:21,675 This scene isn't, uh, 156 00:06:21,710 --> 00:06:24,078 really kosher by American standards, 157 00:06:24,112 --> 00:06:26,714 but a number of adults have walked by 158 00:06:26,748 --> 00:06:28,048 and a couple of them have kind of, like, clucked, 159 00:06:28,083 --> 00:06:30,884 but nobody's--nobody's ringing the alarms. 160 00:06:30,919 --> 00:06:33,988 While smoking is firmly entrenched with Indonesian males, 161 00:06:34,022 --> 00:06:36,957 only about 5% of girls have picked up the habit. 162 00:06:36,992 --> 00:06:39,860 Oliva here is 12 and has been smoking since she was 9. 163 00:06:39,895 --> 00:06:40,896 Why did you start smoking? 164 00:06:41,016 --> 00:06:45,476 _ 165 00:06:45,596 --> 00:06:48,160 _ 166 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:49,718 _ 167 00:06:49,838 --> 00:06:51,671 What--what do you like about smoking? 168 00:06:51,791 --> 00:06:57,925 _ 169 00:06:58,045 --> 00:07:00,347 Do--do girls typically like boys who smoke? 170 00:07:00,467 --> 00:07:02,002 _ 171 00:07:02,122 --> 00:07:03,595 _ 172 00:07:03,715 --> 00:07:05,767 _ 173 00:07:08,723 --> 00:07:10,691 Smoking's manly image is reinforced by 174 00:07:10,725 --> 00:07:12,492 pervasive advertising. 175 00:07:12,526 --> 00:07:15,895 American banned cigarette ads on TV and radio in 1971. 176 00:07:15,929 --> 00:07:19,399 No, you don't see many wild stallions anymore. 177 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:21,668 Come to Marlboro Country. 178 00:07:23,137 --> 00:07:26,306 Indonesia not only still advertises on TV and radio, 179 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:27,874 they advertise it everywhere. 180 00:07:27,908 --> 00:07:29,976 You see cigarette ads on every street corner, 181 00:07:30,011 --> 00:07:31,578 on playground basketball courts, 182 00:07:31,612 --> 00:07:34,948 on posters for major concerts and sporting events. 183 00:07:34,983 --> 00:07:38,052 They even sponsor schools, like the Sampoerna Academy, 184 00:07:38,086 --> 00:07:40,721 named after the same family that sold Sampoerna Cigarettes 185 00:07:40,756 --> 00:07:41,956 to Philip Morris. 186 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:44,825 It's as if we had a school called Marlboro Prep. 187 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:50,130 We've seen Marlboro-branded baby clothes and toys. 188 00:07:50,164 --> 00:07:51,684 Chris Bostic is deputy director 189 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:53,534 of Action on Smoking and Health, 190 00:07:53,568 --> 00:07:56,336 one of the biggest anti-smoking lobbyist groups in the U.S. 191 00:07:56,371 --> 00:07:58,539 They can target children and use cartoons. 192 00:07:58,573 --> 00:08:00,240 I mean, target children in ways that would be 193 00:08:00,275 --> 00:08:01,942 unstomachable here anymore. 194 00:08:03,311 --> 00:08:05,587 How hard is it to, like, fight tobacco use? 195 00:08:05,707 --> 00:08:09,848 _ 196 00:08:09,968 --> 00:08:13,090 _ 197 00:08:13,210 --> 00:08:14,327 _ 198 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:15,356 _ 199 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:17,693 The government's kid glove approach makes sense 200 00:08:17,728 --> 00:08:20,996 when you consider tobacco here is a $100 billion a year industry 201 00:08:21,031 --> 00:08:23,966 and is the second-largest employer in the country. 202 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,435 They're basically too scared of disrupting their revenue stream 203 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:27,503 to rock the boat, 204 00:08:27,537 --> 00:08:29,104 which makes the country a play place 205 00:08:29,139 --> 00:08:30,773 for foreign tobacco companies, 206 00:08:30,807 --> 00:08:34,076 especially ones used to the anti-smoking atmosphere of the West. 207 00:08:34,111 --> 00:08:35,778 In the late eighties, early nineties, 208 00:08:35,812 --> 00:08:39,081 the United States was involved in several lawsuits 209 00:08:39,116 --> 00:08:41,183 against particularly Asian countries 210 00:08:41,218 --> 00:08:43,553 uh, about market access for big tobacco firms 211 00:08:43,587 --> 00:08:44,787 like Philip Morris, 212 00:08:44,822 --> 00:08:46,456 and won all of them. 213 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:49,727 Philip Morris buying Sampoerna in 2005 214 00:08:49,761 --> 00:08:50,961 was a bit of a game changer. 215 00:08:50,996 --> 00:08:52,663 Now as a foreign investor, 216 00:08:52,697 --> 00:08:55,400 Philip Morris can tap all those trade treaties. 217 00:08:55,434 --> 00:08:57,102 So, even if Indonesia did want 218 00:08:57,136 --> 00:08:59,171 to suddenly move forward on tobacco control, 219 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:00,873 they would face all the litigation 220 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:04,444 under every treaty that Indonesia is involved in. 221 00:09:04,478 --> 00:09:06,312 It must be extraordinarily frustrating 222 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:07,346 trying to do this. 223 00:09:07,381 --> 00:09:09,114 Like, how do you feel about the work you do? 224 00:09:09,234 --> 00:09:12,065 _ 225 00:09:12,185 --> 00:09:15,309 _ 226 00:09:15,429 --> 00:09:18,086 _ 227 00:09:18,206 --> 00:09:20,406 _ 228 00:09:25,631 --> 00:09:28,366 So, not only do Indonesians think smoking's, like, OK, 229 00:09:28,401 --> 00:09:30,302 a lot of them actually think it's good for you. 230 00:09:30,336 --> 00:09:32,471 People here believe smoking cures toothaches, 231 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:34,939 clove tobacco cigarettes are good for your breath, 232 00:09:34,973 --> 00:09:36,874 hookah water's an antiseptic. 233 00:09:36,908 --> 00:09:38,542 And on top of all that, they have clinics that treat 234 00:09:38,577 --> 00:09:41,112 smoking-related illnesses with smoking. 235 00:09:41,146 --> 00:09:43,548 This clinic practices a New-Agey sort of therapy 236 00:09:43,582 --> 00:09:45,383 called balur, which uses clove cigarettes 237 00:09:45,417 --> 00:09:47,786 to cure a whole host of diseases. 238 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:50,522 Dr. Soebagio opened it in 2007 239 00:09:50,556 --> 00:09:53,124 and has so far treated over 30,000 patients. 240 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,427 Is it OK? It's all right? Oh, yes. 241 00:09:55,461 --> 00:09:58,430 Oh, thank you. Cool. 242 00:09:58,465 --> 00:10:00,599 What are these fancy cigarettes? 243 00:10:00,719 --> 00:10:03,619 _ 244 00:10:03,739 --> 00:10:06,752 _ 245 00:10:06,872 --> 00:10:10,719 _ 246 00:10:10,839 --> 00:10:14,609 _ 247 00:10:14,729 --> 00:10:17,431 _ 248 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:19,919 Is it all types of cancer or is it just, like, specific ones? 249 00:10:19,953 --> 00:10:21,253 No. All the cancer. 250 00:10:21,373 --> 00:10:24,338 _ 251 00:10:24,458 --> 00:10:26,492 The clinic makes their own brand of cigarettes. 252 00:10:26,526 --> 00:10:29,262 These Divine Kreteks are made from tobacco and cloves 253 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:30,796 and have a special filter soaked in 254 00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:32,932 some sort of amino acid broth, 255 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:36,269 which supposedly sops up all the free radicals in your bodies, 256 00:10:36,303 --> 00:10:39,239 which supposedly is what's causing all that cancer. 257 00:10:40,875 --> 00:10:43,443 So, this is the prep room for my balur treatment, 258 00:10:43,478 --> 00:10:45,039 which is basically they rub stuff on you 259 00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:46,312 to open up your pores, 260 00:10:46,347 --> 00:10:48,548 and that breaks up the free radicals 261 00:10:48,583 --> 00:10:51,251 that are collecting in your cells. 262 00:10:51,285 --> 00:10:52,953 At some point, the tobacco comes in 263 00:10:52,987 --> 00:10:55,389 and sucks it out and makes you healthy. 264 00:10:57,125 --> 00:11:00,794 OK. Um, so this is-- what am I signing? 265 00:11:01,996 --> 00:11:03,330 I guess I've signed it so it doesn't matter. 266 00:11:03,364 --> 00:11:04,731 Ha ha! Yeah. 267 00:11:08,002 --> 00:11:10,637 I was never really big on Eastern medicine, but 268 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:12,806 so far, this beats my usual doctor's visit. 269 00:11:15,777 --> 00:11:19,780 OK. 270 00:11:19,814 --> 00:11:20,914 Ahh. 271 00:11:26,054 --> 00:11:27,588 The traditional part of balur is pretty much 272 00:11:27,622 --> 00:11:29,189 just a vigorous full-body rub 273 00:11:29,224 --> 00:11:32,459 with Tylenol, red onions, and a few other household goods. 274 00:11:32,493 --> 00:11:35,362 This clinic's balur, however, adds a few steps, 275 00:11:35,396 --> 00:11:38,932 like basting your skin and pores with divine cigarette smoke. 276 00:11:38,967 --> 00:11:41,768 Then a second rubdown, this time with scalding hot water 277 00:11:41,803 --> 00:11:44,871 mixed with urea, the same urea that's in our urine. 278 00:11:44,906 --> 00:11:46,506 This is so painful. 279 00:11:51,746 --> 00:11:53,313 Hello. Heh. 280 00:11:53,347 --> 00:11:55,482 So, so, what is happening right now? 281 00:11:55,602 --> 00:12:01,491 _ 282 00:12:02,272 --> 00:12:06,665 _ 283 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:10,697 OK. Thank you. 284 00:12:10,731 --> 00:12:12,599 Thank you, doctor. Yeah. 285 00:12:15,703 --> 00:12:17,237 While I was doing balur to try to clear up 286 00:12:17,271 --> 00:12:19,206 my embarrassing late-twenties acne, 287 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,707 the other patients in the clinic were there 288 00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:22,776 for far graver illnesses. 289 00:12:22,810 --> 00:12:24,644 So, what are-- what are you being treated-- 290 00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:27,414 Hodkin. Oh, Hodgkin's lymphoma. 291 00:12:27,448 --> 00:12:29,149 Do you do--do you do any other treatment? 292 00:12:29,183 --> 00:12:32,185 Do you do, like, chemotherapy or radiation? 293 00:12:32,305 --> 00:12:35,636 _ 294 00:12:35,756 --> 00:12:38,090 Can I ask you, are you a smoker? 295 00:12:38,351 --> 00:12:40,165 _ 296 00:12:40,476 --> 00:12:43,241 _ 297 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:46,131 Um, do you have any problems with, 298 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,866 with people who are critics of balur? 299 00:12:47,986 --> 00:12:52,516 _ 300 00:12:52,636 --> 00:12:57,932 _ 301 00:12:58,052 --> 00:13:02,590 _ 302 00:13:02,980 --> 00:13:05,783 All the free radical talk and baked potato foil wraps 303 00:13:05,817 --> 00:13:09,220 were already major red flags for pseudo-scientific hokum, 304 00:13:09,254 --> 00:13:10,722 but throwing miracles into the works 305 00:13:10,756 --> 00:13:12,624 really piqued my skepticism. 306 00:13:12,658 --> 00:13:15,761 So, we asked a radiologist on one of Jakarta's biggest cancer wards 307 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:18,230 to explain how legit this business really is. 308 00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:20,132 Does this hold up against medical science? 309 00:13:20,252 --> 00:13:22,710 _ 310 00:13:22,830 --> 00:13:24,127 _ 311 00:13:24,247 --> 00:13:27,134 _ 312 00:13:27,254 --> 00:13:32,395 _ 313 00:13:32,515 --> 00:13:36,039 _ 314 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:39,286 Even though it's not medically recognized or sound, 315 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,188 the poor and gullible still flock to these clinics. 316 00:13:42,223 --> 00:13:43,590 What--what happened with your son? 317 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:49,965 _ 318 00:13:50,085 --> 00:13:52,353 _ 319 00:13:52,721 --> 00:13:58,099 _ 320 00:13:58,219 --> 00:14:00,957 _ 321 00:14:01,077 --> 00:14:05,124 _ 322 00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:09,142 _ 323 00:14:09,262 --> 00:14:11,066 _ 324 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:15,859 _ 325 00:14:16,331 --> 00:14:18,399 _ 326 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:22,957 _ 327 00:14:23,432 --> 00:14:27,315 _ 328 00:14:27,435 --> 00:14:29,002 Despite the astronomical cost, 329 00:14:29,037 --> 00:14:31,504 both on healthcare and individual lives, 330 00:14:31,539 --> 00:14:33,373 it's unlikely that any effort is gonna get 331 00:14:33,407 --> 00:14:36,242 2/3 of Indonesian guys to quit smoking. 332 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,776 The only real way to break the cycle 333 00:14:37,811 --> 00:14:40,345 is to keep the next generation from starting. 334 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:43,815 As bad as it is now, they're actually at the beginning of their epidemic curve, 335 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:47,352 because it has one of the largest youth populations in the world, 336 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:49,454 and most people start smoking when they're youths. 337 00:14:49,489 --> 00:14:52,290 So, you got a combination of a large youth population, 338 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:54,792 absolutely no regulations on advertising, 339 00:14:54,827 --> 00:14:56,494 including advertising to youth, 340 00:14:56,528 --> 00:14:59,097 and a growing per capita income. 341 00:14:59,131 --> 00:15:01,566 That is a recipe for a massive increase 342 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,480 in the number of smokers in the next generation. 343 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:07,539 If you go back in time and try to find a tobacco company that has gone bankrupt, 344 00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:08,941 you'd be hard pressed to find one. 345 00:15:08,975 --> 00:15:11,543 It's a business that's gonna continue to be successful 346 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:12,544 for decades. 347 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,757 Heroin is bad. 348 00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:27,826 In fact, it's so fucking bad 349 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,194 that once you get hooked on it, 350 00:15:29,228 --> 00:15:31,463 you basically only have 3 options. 351 00:15:31,497 --> 00:15:34,533 One, you can quit, which is almost impossible, 352 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:37,736 as evidenced by the over 90% relapse rate; 353 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:41,040 two, you can take so-called replacement therapy drugs 354 00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,442 like methadone, that are just as addictive; 355 00:15:43,477 --> 00:15:45,745 or 3, you can die. 356 00:15:45,779 --> 00:15:47,813 And as such, hardcore addicts will do 357 00:15:47,848 --> 00:15:49,615 almost anything they can to quit. 358 00:15:49,649 --> 00:15:52,084 But with so few options that are actually viable, 359 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:55,487 they started turning toward more obscure and extreme cures. 360 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:58,657 One particular method uses super-powerful hallucinogens 361 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,626 that shock the body so much that it actually interrupts 362 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:03,028 the addiction to heroin. 363 00:16:07,455 --> 00:16:14,522 _ 364 00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:21,079 Whoo! 365 00:16:21,113 --> 00:16:23,148 This is a Bwiti healing ceremony 366 00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:25,017 at a harm reduction center in Harlem. 367 00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:29,855 Whoo! Whoo! 368 00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:31,957 And this is Dimitri Mugianis, 369 00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:35,060 and he cures people of heroin addiction. 370 00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:37,362 He does so using a special voodoo ritual-- 371 00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:38,797 somewhat like this. 372 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,666 The main difference is, when it's for kicking heroin, 373 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:44,836 he also incorporates one of the most powerful drugs on earth-- 374 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:46,805 ibogaine. 375 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,306 What is ibogaine? 376 00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:50,542 Ibogaine is a hydrochloride, 377 00:16:50,576 --> 00:16:51,977 meaning a extract 378 00:16:52,012 --> 00:16:54,814 from a plant called iboga. 379 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:57,250 One of the properties of iboga 380 00:16:57,284 --> 00:16:58,785 that was discovered in the early sixties 381 00:16:58,819 --> 00:16:59,986 was that it interrupts 382 00:17:00,021 --> 00:17:01,822 physical dependency on opiates 383 00:17:01,856 --> 00:17:02,990 without withdrawal. 384 00:17:03,024 --> 00:17:04,758 That happened for me. I was a heroin addict 385 00:17:04,792 --> 00:17:06,659 and a methadone addict for 20 years. 386 00:17:06,694 --> 00:17:08,394 How many times did you try to get clean 387 00:17:08,429 --> 00:17:09,429 before ibogaine? 388 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:10,964 I probably went cold turkey 50 times. 389 00:17:10,998 --> 00:17:13,767 Right. So, the only thing that ever worked in 20 years... 390 00:17:13,801 --> 00:17:15,201 The only thing that ever worked in 20 years. 391 00:17:15,236 --> 00:17:16,670 OK. So, was ibogaine illegal at this time? 392 00:17:16,704 --> 00:17:20,907 Ibogaine has been illegal since Nixon. 393 00:17:20,942 --> 00:17:23,243 Ibogaine was made illegal in 1969 394 00:17:23,277 --> 00:17:25,145 at the height of the hippie movement, 395 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:27,447 and today, lives right along heroin 396 00:17:27,482 --> 00:17:29,182 as a Schedule 1 drug. 397 00:17:29,217 --> 00:17:30,984 And although it's legal in most countries, 398 00:17:31,018 --> 00:17:33,720 ibogaine has some of the stiffest legal penalties 399 00:17:33,754 --> 00:17:35,121 here in America. 400 00:17:35,156 --> 00:17:37,123 So, if you want to use it to get off heroin, 401 00:17:37,158 --> 00:17:40,226 you have to leave the States to do so. 402 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:43,796 After Dimitri used ibogaine to successfully beat his addiction, 403 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:46,231 he became kind of an evangelist for the drug 404 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:48,300 and illegally administered hundreds of treatments 405 00:17:48,334 --> 00:17:51,236 to addicts in hotel and motel rooms across the country. 406 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:56,375 But after a very close call where one of his patients nearly died... 407 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,410 Hey. Hey. Hey. 408 00:17:58,445 --> 00:18:01,547 he realized that he had to find out more about his drug. 409 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,149 So, he went to Africa. 410 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:08,521 He traveled to Gabon and became an initiate in Bwiti, 411 00:18:08,555 --> 00:18:10,657 which is a religion that uses ibogaine, 412 00:18:10,691 --> 00:18:12,492 or rather iboga, the indigenous plant 413 00:18:12,526 --> 00:18:15,261 that ibogaine is made from, to talk to their ancestors 414 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:16,629 through hallucinations, 415 00:18:16,663 --> 00:18:19,132 which in turn induces spiritual enlightenment. 416 00:18:29,143 --> 00:18:30,944 Since then, Dimitri's been incorporating 417 00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:34,048 elements of Bwiti rituals while he illegally administers 418 00:18:34,082 --> 00:18:35,950 ibogaine to heroin addicts. 419 00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:39,487 That is, until he got busted by the DEA in a sting operation, 420 00:18:39,522 --> 00:18:41,023 and since then, he's been conducting 421 00:18:41,057 --> 00:18:42,691 a kind of Bwiti self-help group 422 00:18:42,725 --> 00:18:44,526 every week at a drug clinic in Harlem 423 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,629 with all of the freakiness but none of the ibogaine. 424 00:18:47,663 --> 00:18:49,798 ♪And I want you to open up! 425 00:18:49,832 --> 00:18:52,200 Even though Dimitri's ceremonies can look as though 426 00:18:52,235 --> 00:18:54,436 the lunatics have taken over the asylum, 427 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:57,273 people continually seek him out to ask him for his help, 428 00:18:57,307 --> 00:19:00,609 because heroin is the most addictive drug on earth. 429 00:19:06,249 --> 00:19:08,017 Now, take Matt, for example. 430 00:19:08,051 --> 00:19:09,985 He looks like a linebacker for Purdue, 431 00:19:10,020 --> 00:19:12,421 but in reality, he's been a hardcore junkie 432 00:19:12,456 --> 00:19:13,689 for over 10 years. 433 00:19:13,724 --> 00:19:16,058 I was sniffing in the back of the car 434 00:19:16,093 --> 00:19:17,260 on the way here. 435 00:19:17,294 --> 00:19:19,162 In fact, Matt is so far gone 436 00:19:19,196 --> 00:19:20,963 that his own mother is willing to give him up 437 00:19:20,998 --> 00:19:23,366 to a bunch of New York voodoo fruitcakes 438 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,335 and let them take him to Mexico 439 00:19:25,369 --> 00:19:28,638 and give him one of the most powerful drugs on Earth. 440 00:19:28,672 --> 00:19:30,873 That's how bad heroin is. 441 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:33,209 We're very excited about this. 442 00:19:33,244 --> 00:19:36,947 He's like our baby and we'll take really good care of him. 443 00:19:36,981 --> 00:19:38,415 It's so sad to me, though, 444 00:19:38,449 --> 00:19:39,983 that it can't be done here, 445 00:19:40,017 --> 00:19:43,486 that it's--I--just angers me 446 00:19:43,521 --> 00:19:45,756 to my--bottom of my soul. 447 00:19:45,790 --> 00:19:47,825 And when you see that level of desperation, 448 00:19:47,859 --> 00:19:49,794 you realize why people put so much faith 449 00:19:49,828 --> 00:19:51,362 in New Age healers like Dimitri. 450 00:19:51,396 --> 00:19:53,131 Thank you, son. 451 00:19:53,165 --> 00:19:54,999 We'll take good care of him, OK? 452 00:19:55,033 --> 00:19:57,235 All right. Call us, too. Anytime. 453 00:19:58,370 --> 00:20:00,338 This is your new path, honey, 454 00:20:00,372 --> 00:20:01,506 and I can't wait to see 455 00:20:01,540 --> 00:20:02,941 the amazing things that are gonna 456 00:20:02,975 --> 00:20:05,177 happen in your life. 457 00:20:05,211 --> 00:20:07,345 I love you with my heart and soul, baby. 458 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:08,480 OK, ma. 459 00:20:08,514 --> 00:20:09,481 God bless you, baby. 460 00:20:09,516 --> 00:20:10,449 All right. 461 00:20:17,157 --> 00:20:19,491 To avoid prosecution by the American government, 462 00:20:19,526 --> 00:20:21,493 much of the ibogaine underground community 463 00:20:21,528 --> 00:20:24,163 has actually moved just south of the border to Mexico, 464 00:20:24,197 --> 00:20:25,865 where the drug is still legal. 465 00:20:32,172 --> 00:20:34,774 So, we're about an hour south of Tijuana 466 00:20:34,808 --> 00:20:36,743 in a very upscale neighborhood. 467 00:20:36,777 --> 00:20:40,446 It's interesting, because when you start doing a story about 468 00:20:40,481 --> 00:20:42,549 underground heroin clinics using 469 00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:44,551 sort of tribal African rituals... 470 00:20:46,188 --> 00:20:48,089 You kind of have an image in your head of 471 00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,992 sort of dank basements on the Lower East Side, 472 00:20:51,026 --> 00:20:53,094 and then all of a sudden, you're in a really fancy 473 00:20:53,128 --> 00:20:55,396 Mexican villa by the sea. 474 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:56,931 It's not what I had in mind. 475 00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:00,000 The reason we came down here 476 00:21:00,035 --> 00:21:01,902 is to work with Jeff Israel and his clinic, 477 00:21:01,936 --> 00:21:04,371 is because what we're gonna try to do is combine 478 00:21:04,406 --> 00:21:07,208 our ritual with the medical ritual. Right. 479 00:21:07,242 --> 00:21:09,410 Jeff Israel runs a more medical approach 480 00:21:09,444 --> 00:21:11,645 to ibogaine at his clinic, and as such 481 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,347 incorporates a lot of safety equipment 482 00:21:13,381 --> 00:21:15,015 in case anything goes wrong. 483 00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:16,850 If we don't like where the pulse is 484 00:21:16,884 --> 00:21:19,286 or starts to go low or gets irregular, 485 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,521 we'll slap these on them with 3 leads. 486 00:21:21,556 --> 00:21:23,323 If somebody vomits or aspirates, 487 00:21:23,357 --> 00:21:24,958 we can suction them out. 488 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:26,960 If somebody codes or anything like that, 489 00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:30,363 we have oxygen and... 490 00:21:30,398 --> 00:21:32,266 if there is an emergency, you know, 491 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:34,501 we have an intubation kit. 492 00:21:34,536 --> 00:21:36,069 For Matt's treatment, they're gonna combine 493 00:21:36,104 --> 00:21:38,806 his clinical approach with Dimitri's ceremony. 494 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,809 And it was finally time for that ceremony to begin. 495 00:21:45,848 --> 00:21:46,948 But first we had to pick up 496 00:21:46,982 --> 00:21:49,650 a longtime heroin user from Brooklyn named Nicole, 497 00:21:49,685 --> 00:21:51,085 who's a friend of Jeff Israel's 498 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,820 and happened to be in Mexico 499 00:21:52,855 --> 00:21:55,857 and also wanted to use ibogaine to try and get clean. 500 00:21:55,891 --> 00:21:58,293 For the first ritual, we had to find a tree 501 00:21:58,327 --> 00:21:59,527 by the side of the highway. 502 00:21:59,562 --> 00:22:01,229 So, do you guys know what we're doing now? 503 00:22:01,263 --> 00:22:03,197 Uh, we're going to the tree, right? 504 00:22:03,231 --> 00:22:05,065 Yeah. Yeah. 505 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,701 I don't know exactly what we're doing there, but-- 506 00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:15,142 So, you give this as offerings 507 00:22:15,176 --> 00:22:17,277 to the ancestors and to the tree, 508 00:22:17,311 --> 00:22:18,445 because this stuff is good. 509 00:22:18,479 --> 00:22:19,613 Everyone likes Fanta, 510 00:22:19,647 --> 00:22:21,381 everyone likes booze and candy, 511 00:22:21,415 --> 00:22:22,416 so, you offer it up. 512 00:22:33,828 --> 00:22:35,528 I think that for a drug user, 513 00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:37,830 I mean, their whole life revolves around ritual. 514 00:22:37,865 --> 00:22:39,666 The ritual of copping, of getting the drugs, 515 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:41,300 procuring the drugs, getting the money, 516 00:22:41,335 --> 00:22:43,670 and I think that even problematic drug use 517 00:22:43,704 --> 00:22:46,506 is a quest for deeper meaning. 518 00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:49,909 How many times have you tried to get clean? 519 00:22:49,944 --> 00:22:51,478 Uh, at least 30. 520 00:22:51,512 --> 00:22:52,913 30 times. At least. 521 00:22:52,947 --> 00:22:54,714 What do you hope happens now? 522 00:22:54,749 --> 00:22:56,616 I hope I stay clean. 523 00:22:56,651 --> 00:22:58,385 I just--I just want to be happy, man. 524 00:22:58,419 --> 00:22:59,986 You know, I just want to wake up in the morning 525 00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:02,188 and, you know, not want to 526 00:23:02,223 --> 00:23:04,591 fucking blow my brains out every day. 527 00:23:04,625 --> 00:23:08,494 That would be nice. Nice change of pace. 528 00:23:08,528 --> 00:23:10,829 Are you worried about what you guys are doing? 529 00:23:10,863 --> 00:23:13,097 Are you worried that the rituals 530 00:23:13,132 --> 00:23:18,236 get sort of bastardized and--and morph into something else? 531 00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:19,270 Yeah, it is a worry, 532 00:23:19,304 --> 00:23:21,438 and it is a criticism of me, 533 00:23:21,473 --> 00:23:23,507 but that's what culture does, right? Right. 534 00:23:23,541 --> 00:23:26,376 And the thing about an African religion and an African music-- 535 00:23:26,410 --> 00:23:29,679 it's very plastic, it bends and molds and shapes, 536 00:23:29,713 --> 00:23:30,634 and it'll be different. 537 00:23:30,648 --> 00:23:32,649 Our Bwiti is different. 538 00:23:32,683 --> 00:23:36,318 With all of this, the second they take a test dose, 539 00:23:36,353 --> 00:23:37,687 their withdrawal will be gone. 540 00:23:37,721 --> 00:23:41,657 That is fucking for sure. Every time. 541 00:23:41,692 --> 00:23:43,293 The rituals of the afternoon 542 00:23:43,327 --> 00:23:45,861 fed into the ibogaine use of the evening, 543 00:23:45,896 --> 00:23:48,464 and that's when things started to get a bit heavy. 544 00:23:53,103 --> 00:23:55,537 When the first ibogaine test dose was administered, 545 00:23:55,572 --> 00:23:58,273 Nicole, who was still suspected of being on heroin, 546 00:23:58,308 --> 00:23:59,541 showed little reaction, 547 00:23:59,575 --> 00:24:02,077 whereas Matt, who was already in full withdrawal, 548 00:24:02,111 --> 00:24:03,911 felt it immediately. 549 00:24:03,946 --> 00:24:05,880 And after another quick round of medical tests 550 00:24:05,914 --> 00:24:07,315 to check his vital stats, 551 00:24:07,349 --> 00:24:08,829 they administered Matt the flood dose, 552 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:11,485 and it was not an easy trip. 553 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,389 This is probably between 80% and 90% ibogaine, 554 00:24:15,423 --> 00:24:17,791 and we gave it to him in, like, a cocktail, 555 00:24:17,826 --> 00:24:20,961 so it got in his system quicker without a capsule. 556 00:24:20,996 --> 00:24:25,666 The most important bit of equipment in this place 557 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:27,434 is the vomit bucket. 558 00:24:27,469 --> 00:24:28,602 Bless you. 559 00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:15,382 Probably 15 hours into this now. 560 00:25:15,417 --> 00:25:17,251 Just gave him some more ibogaine. 561 00:25:17,285 --> 00:25:19,886 This is common. What he's experiencing now 562 00:25:19,921 --> 00:25:22,522 is 15% of what he would have 563 00:25:22,557 --> 00:25:25,291 if he was home trying to kick an opiate habit. 564 00:25:25,326 --> 00:25:28,395 OK, this is nothing. This is baby food. 565 00:25:30,198 --> 00:25:33,500 Just thinking about, like, this crazy... 566 00:25:37,539 --> 00:25:39,439 crazy life, you know, 567 00:25:39,474 --> 00:25:42,743 and...I just kind of hope I don't 568 00:25:42,777 --> 00:25:44,445 have to go back to it anymore. 569 00:25:45,814 --> 00:25:50,517 But as of right now, I mean, I don't want to. 570 00:25:50,552 --> 00:25:53,053 That in itself is a miracle. 571 00:25:54,522 --> 00:25:56,790 An addict goes from being completely numb 572 00:25:56,824 --> 00:25:59,592 physically and emotionally for, you know, 573 00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:01,861 one, 5, 10, 20 years 574 00:26:01,896 --> 00:26:04,430 to finally feeling their body again 575 00:26:04,465 --> 00:26:06,099 and feeling emotions again, 576 00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:08,968 and it's like, uh-uh, unacceptable. 577 00:26:11,272 --> 00:26:14,308 With ibogaine, sometimes it's not a favor, you know, 578 00:26:14,342 --> 00:26:15,876 You get kicked in the face. 579 00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:17,177 It's iboga saying, "Hello." 580 00:26:17,212 --> 00:26:19,479 Mama Bwiti saying, "Hello. What's up?" 581 00:26:19,514 --> 00:26:22,849 You know, like a good parent telling you something. 582 00:26:22,884 --> 00:26:26,720 This stuff is miraculous and he's doing--he's doing fine. 583 00:26:26,755 --> 00:26:29,556 It's just, you know, it's just not a fun experience. 584 00:26:29,591 --> 00:26:31,592 You know, there's no-- there's no easy landing. 585 00:26:31,626 --> 00:26:32,960 Even with ibogaine. 586 00:26:34,729 --> 00:26:37,164 Nicole, who was suspected of still being on heroin, 587 00:26:37,199 --> 00:26:38,966 did not take her flood dose that night, 588 00:26:39,001 --> 00:26:41,569 but instead opted to take her full dosage of ibogaine 589 00:26:41,603 --> 00:26:45,039 a few days later without Dimitri's Bwiti ceremony. 590 00:27:07,261 --> 00:27:10,064 It was actually amazing to see the transformation of Matt. 591 00:27:10,098 --> 00:27:11,732 He was healthy and smiling, 592 00:27:11,767 --> 00:27:13,968 and he hadn't used drugs since Mexico. 593 00:27:14,002 --> 00:27:16,270 The ibogaine had done its job. 594 00:27:16,305 --> 00:27:18,806 Everything looks so different. 595 00:27:18,841 --> 00:27:21,309 It's just nothing looks the same. It's weird. 596 00:27:27,149 --> 00:27:29,417 You know, Matt was really suffering in his addiction. 597 00:27:29,452 --> 00:27:30,885 But the difference is just profound. 598 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,654 Just the way he looks, his skin color, 599 00:27:32,688 --> 00:27:33,789 the way he's talking. 600 00:27:33,823 --> 00:27:36,191 You know, this is sort of like a textbook example 601 00:27:36,225 --> 00:27:40,495 of what iboga can do for a suffering drug addict. 602 00:27:40,529 --> 00:27:42,697 I must admit that at first seeing the rituals 603 00:27:42,731 --> 00:27:44,165 and craziness of Bwiti 604 00:27:44,199 --> 00:27:45,967 that I was bit skeptical. 605 00:27:46,002 --> 00:27:48,436 But when I saw Matt literally reborn, 606 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:50,771 I was happy to be proved wrong. 607 00:27:52,541 --> 00:27:53,808 And I can only hope that he, 608 00:27:53,842 --> 00:27:56,811 like a lot of ibogaine users before him, stays clean. 609 00:27:56,846 --> 00:27:58,613 You feeling good? 610 00:27:58,648 --> 00:28:00,615 Good. Really good, man. Really good. 611 00:28:05,322 --> 00:28:10,766 _ 612 00:28:10,767 --> 00:28:20,893 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 42291

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