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- NARRATOR: It's a match made in hell.

- NARRATOR: It's a match made in hell.

Serial killers who murder as a team.

Serial killers who murder as a team.

- HAROLD: We have two people who individually

- HAROLD: We have two people who individually

might never really commit this kind of crime,

might never really commit this kind of crime,

might never really commit this kind of crime,

but at some time form this very, very toxic partnership.

but at some time form this very, very toxic partnership.

but at some time form this very, very toxic partnership.

- NARRATOR: Sometimes, one is the psychological leader.

- NARRATOR: Sometimes, one is the psychological leader.

- NARRATOR: Sometimes, one is the psychological leader.

The other, a compliant accomplice.

The other, a compliant accomplice.

- GARY: One is the dominant, driving force,

- GARY: One is the dominant, driving force,

- GARY: One is the dominant, driving force,

and the other, acting out of love,

and the other, acting out of love,

or is acting out of loyalty or fear.

or is acting out of loyalty or fear.

- NARRATOR: Often, they are a romantic couple,

- NARRATOR: Often, they are a romantic couple,

- NARRATOR: Often, they are a romantic couple,

driven by deviant sexual thrills.

driven by deviant sexual thrills.

driven by deviant sexual thrills.

- HAROLD: So you find the usual couples,

who get into serial murder as a form of--

who get into serial murder as a form of--

who get into serial murder as a form of--

a really grotesque, horrific form of sex play,

a really grotesque, horrific form of sex play,

who spice up their lives by abducting

who spice up their lives by abducting

who spice up their lives by abducting

and torturing victims.

and torturing victims.

- DR. FOX: So, a lot of times, these are motivated

- DR. FOX: So, a lot of times, these are motivated

by somebody trying to have an apprentice, in a way,

by somebody trying to have an apprentice, in a way,

by somebody trying to have an apprentice, in a way,

where they're leading them on, they're showing them the ropes,

where they're leading them on, they're showing them the ropes,

and that alone gives them pleasure,

and that alone gives them pleasure,

they feel good about it, and in some cases,

they feel good about it, and in some cases,

it's because they actually need the help.

it's because they actually need the help.

- NARRATOR: What causes such a murderous defect

- NARRATOR: What causes such a murderous defect

in the human psyche?

in the human psyche?

Now, the voices and visions of serial killers...

Now, the voices and visions of serial killers...

Now, the voices and visions of serial killers...

...take us deep inside their complex and twisted minds.

...take us deep inside their complex and twisted minds.

...take us deep inside their complex and twisted minds.

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- NARRATOR: These are the legendary English moors.

- NARRATOR: These are the legendary English moors.

- NARRATOR: These are the legendary English moors.

The vast, open grasslands of the United Kingdom.

The vast, open grasslands of the United Kingdom.

Like the remote American deserts, forests, and lakes,

Like the remote American deserts, forests, and lakes,

Like the remote American deserts, forests, and lakes,

these beautiful landscapes are ideal for hiking, camping,

these beautiful landscapes are ideal for hiking, camping,

these beautiful landscapes are ideal for hiking, camping,

and experiencing nature.

and experiencing nature.

They are also isolated spots,

They are also isolated spots,

where sometimes criminal acts evade detection,

where sometimes criminal acts evade detection,

where sometimes criminal acts evade detection,

and serial killers hide their victims.

and serial killers hide their victims.

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- NARRATOR: Forensic investigators and volunteers

- NARRATOR: Forensic investigators and volunteers

are searching the area known as Saddleworth Moor,

are searching the area known as Saddleworth Moor,

are searching the area known as Saddleworth Moor,

near Manchester.

near Manchester.

They are hunting for the body of Keith Bennett.

They are hunting for the body of Keith Bennett.

They are hunting for the body of Keith Bennett.

Keith was the third victim of the serial killer team

Keith was the third victim of the serial killer team

known as the moors murderers: Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.

known as the moors murderers: Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.

known as the moors murderers: Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.

known as the moors murderers: Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.

From 1963 to 1965, Brady and Hindley kidnapped,

From 1963 to 1965, Brady and Hindley kidnapped,

From 1963 to 1965, Brady and Hindley kidnapped,

sexually assaulted and murdered five children

sexually assaulted and murdered five children

sexually assaulted and murdered five children

ranging in age from ten to 17.

ranging in age from ten to 17.

ranging in age from ten to 17.

Keith Bennett was just 12 years old when he was killed.

Keith Bennett was just 12 years old when he was killed.

Keith Bennett was just 12 years old when he was killed.

Keith's family had been looking for Keith's remains

Keith's family had been looking for Keith's remains

for nearly 40 years,

for nearly 40 years,

with the help of many volunteers.

with the help of many volunteers.

- There's no way I'm gonna give up, no way.

- There's no way I'm gonna give up, no way.

- I will not rest, I will not stop

- I will not rest, I will not stop

until Keith's home or until I...physically cannot do it.

until Keith's home or until I...physically cannot do it.

until Keith's home or until I...physically cannot do it.

- NARRATOR: The search is frustrating.

- NARRATOR: The search is frustrating.

Essentially, it's like finding a very tiny needle

Essentially, it's like finding a very tiny needle

in a gigantic haystack.

Surprisingly, from prison, Myra Hindley has sent them

Surprisingly, from prison, Myra Hindley has sent them

Surprisingly, from prison, Myra Hindley has sent them

directions for where to search for the body.

directions for where to search for the body.

She's provided a sketchy map to help them find Keith.

She's provided a sketchy map to help them find Keith.

She's provided a sketchy map to help them find Keith.

Myra claims she stood lookout on a ridge,

Myra claims she stood lookout on a ridge,

Myra claims she stood lookout on a ridge,

while Brady took Keith deep into a gully

while Brady took Keith deep into a gully

to brutalize and murder the youngster.

to brutalize and murder the youngster.

to brutalize and murder the youngster.

Nevertheless, the search is leading nowhere.

Nevertheless, the search is leading nowhere.

- The moor itself is a difficult place.

- The moor itself is a difficult place.

- The moor itself is a difficult place.

People do not understand that.

People do not understand that.

Finding things up there is hard and difficult,

Finding things up there is hard and difficult,

as our task so far has proven.

as our task so far has proven.

- Be a big change down there.

I was thinking it's nearly impossible for anyone

I was thinking it's nearly impossible for anyone

to remember where they buried anything.

to remember where they buried anything.

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- NARRATOR: Hindley has agreed to assist in the search,

- NARRATOR: Hindley has agreed to assist in the search,

- NARRATOR: Hindley has agreed to assist in the search,

hoping this will enhance her case to be released

hoping this will enhance her case to be released

from prison early.

In 1966, she and Brady were convicted of murder

In 1966, she and Brady were convicted of murder

and given life sentences.

and given life sentences.

Over 20% of serial killers operate with an accomplice.

Over 20% of serial killers operate with an accomplice.

Over 20% of serial killers operate with an accomplice.

Myra Hindley and Ian Brady are classic examples

Myra Hindley and Ian Brady are classic examples

Myra Hindley and Ian Brady are classic examples

of this breed of deadly duo.

of this breed of deadly duo.

- Often, you will find these, um...pairs,

- Often, you will find these, um...pairs,

- Often, you will find these, um...pairs,

who seem to be examples of what criminologists

who seem to be examples of what criminologists

who seem to be examples of what criminologists

sometimes call a folie á deux.

sometimes call a folie á deux.

Folie á deux is a French term

Folie á deux is a French term

meaning a madness shared by two people,

meaning a madness shared by two people,

but now it's more generally applied to a kind of crime

but now it's more generally applied to a kind of crime

but now it's more generally applied to a kind of crime

where you have two people who individually might never

where you have two people who individually might never

where you have two people who individually might never

really commit this kind of crime, but,

really commit this kind of crime, but,

you know, in some time form

you know, in some time form

this very, very toxic partnership.

this very, very toxic partnership.

- Sometimes the--there's the main person,

- Sometimes the--there's the main person,

such as the case of Ian Brady,

who used his girlfriend, Myra Hindley,

who used his girlfriend, Myra Hindley,

who used his girlfriend, Myra Hindley,

to lure children to a very remote place

to lure children to a very remote place

to lure children to a very remote place

where Ian would then, uh, strangle the little child

where Ian would then, uh, strangle the little child

where Ian would then, uh, strangle the little child

where Ian would then, uh, strangle the little child

and record the screams

and record the screams

of the strangling child-- - [child screaming]

of the strangling child-- - [child screaming]

- DR. STONE: --on a tape recorder which he would then

use later as a kind of sexual turn-on for him and Myra

use later as a kind of sexual turn-on for him and Myra

use later as a kind of sexual turn-on for him and Myra

use later as a kind of sexual turn-on for him and Myra

later in the evening.

later in the evening.

- NARRATOR: The moors murderers first met when Myra Hindley

- NARRATOR: The moors murderers first met when Myra Hindley

went for a job interview at a small chemical company

went for a job interview at a small chemical company

went for a job interview at a small chemical company

in Manchester called Millwoods Merchandise.

in Manchester called Millwoods Merchandise.

in Manchester called Millwoods Merchandise.

Ian Brady was working there as a shipping clerk.

Ian Brady was working there as a shipping clerk.

Ian Brady was working there as a shipping clerk.

She was immediately attracted to the tall, handsome,

She was immediately attracted to the tall, handsome,

but strange young man.

but strange young man.

According to reports, Brady was interested

According to reports, Brady was interested

in pornography as a schoolboy.

in pornography as a schoolboy.

He was also very cruel,

He was also very cruel,

torturing kittens to see how long they took to die.

torturing kittens to see how long they took to die.

torturing kittens to see how long they took to die.

And his psyche remained the same long after his capture.

And his psyche remained the same long after his capture.

And his psyche remained the same long after his capture.

- And Ian Brady was simply sadistic,

- And Ian Brady was simply sadistic,

and a very awful person.

and a very awful person.

- He didn't show remorse at all.

- He didn't show remorse at all.

Uh, what he did show, that he was, uh,

Uh, what he did show, that he was, uh,

Uh, what he did show, that he was, uh,

someone who was quite determined to, uh,

someone who was quite determined to, uh,

someone who was quite determined to, uh,

someone who was quite determined to, uh,

do the things he did.

He was--he was quite sober, in a sense,

He was--he was quite sober, in a sense,

He was--he was quite sober, in a sense,

as to what he was, uh, saying,

as to what he was, uh, saying,

as to what he was, uh, saying,

and I just felt that, uh,

and I just felt that, uh,

he was... he was very ill.

he was... he was very ill.

he was... he was very ill.

- NARRATOR: For their first date, Ian takes Myra

- NARRATOR: For their first date, Ian takes Myra

to the movies to see "Judgement at Nuremberg,"

to the movies to see "Judgement at Nuremberg,"

to the movies to see "Judgement at Nuremberg,"

a film about the Nazi war trials after World War II.

a film about the Nazi war trials after World War II.

a film about the Nazi war trials after World War II.

He introduces her to the writings and recordings

He introduces her to the writings and recordings

of Adolf Hitler,

of Adolf Hitler,

as well as sexual sadistic works of the Marquis de Sade.

as well as sexual sadistic works of the Marquis de Sade.

as well as sexual sadistic works of the Marquis de Sade.

The couple becomes inseparable.

The couple becomes inseparable.

The couple becomes inseparable.

They make a good team: he's socially awkward,

They make a good team: he's socially awkward,

but she's just the opposite.

but she's just the opposite.

And they both share a fascination

And they both share a fascination

for sadistic cruelty.

for sadistic cruelty.

In prison, Myra pens hundreds of letters

In prison, Myra pens hundreds of letters

to her mother, along with an unpublished autobiography.

to her mother, along with an unpublished autobiography.

to her mother, along with an unpublished autobiography.

And these writings offer rare insight into the minds

And these writings offer rare insight into the minds

And these writings offer rare insight into the minds

of a serial killer team.

of a serial killer team.

In her writings, Myra claims Ian indoctrinated her

In her writings, Myra claims Ian indoctrinated her

In her writings, Myra claims Ian indoctrinated her

for over a year and a half to the idea of her being

for over a year and a half to the idea of her being

for over a year and a half to the idea of her being

his accomplice in murder.

his accomplice in murder.

- That does seem to happen often with these team killers,

- That does seem to happen often with these team killers,

- That does seem to happen often with these team killers,

that one is the dominant, driving force,

that one is the dominant, driving force,

that one is the dominant, driving force,

and the other draws a kind of sense of purpose,

and the other draws a kind of sense of purpose,

and the other draws a kind of sense of purpose,

or is acting out of love,

or is acting out of love,

or is acting out of loyalty or fear of the other individual,

or is acting out of loyalty or fear of the other individual,

or is acting out of loyalty or fear of the other individual,

or some--can sometimes be a heinous person themselves.

or some--can sometimes be a heinous person themselves.

or some--can sometimes be a heinous person themselves.

- NARRATOR: In her letters, Myra describes Brady's

- NARRATOR: In her letters, Myra describes Brady's

better side, and how she enjoyed relaxing times

better side, and how she enjoyed relaxing times

better side, and how she enjoyed relaxing times

in the country, in places Ian had visited

in the country, in places Ian had visited

on his motorbike.

on his motorbike.

- [water flowing]

- [water flowing]

- NARRATOR: These were days of tranquility for her,

- NARRATOR: These were days of tranquility for her,

and she treasured the time they spent together,

and she treasured the time they spent together,

always hoping for a normal, domestic life.

always hoping for a normal, domestic life.

But any possibility of a normal life disappears

But any possibility of a normal life disappears

on July 12th, 1963,

on July 12th, 1963,

when Myra offers 16-year-old Pauline Reade

when Myra offers 16-year-old Pauline Reade

when Myra offers 16-year-old Pauline Reade

a ride in her van.

a ride in her van.

She tricks her into going to Saddleworth Moor

She tricks her into going to Saddleworth Moor

to help her look for an expensive lost glove.

to help her look for an expensive lost glove.

to help her look for an expensive lost glove.

Ian follows on his motorbike.

Ian follows on his motorbike.

Ian follows on his motorbike.

When they arrive, Ian takes Pauline onto the moor,

When they arrive, Ian takes Pauline onto the moor,

When they arrive, Ian takes Pauline onto the moor,

rapes her and cuts her throat.

rapes her and cuts her throat.

Myra Hindley claims she was not present

Myra Hindley claims she was not present

during this or any of the other murders.

during this or any of the other murders.

during this or any of the other murders.

But despite the claims she makes in these later writings,

But despite the claims she makes in these later writings,

But despite the claims she makes in these later writings,

Myra continues as an accomplice in the next murders.

Myra continues as an accomplice in the next murders.

Myra continues as an accomplice in the next murders.

- There are some cases of a tag-team serial killer group,

- There are some cases of a tag-team serial killer group,

- There are some cases of a tag-team serial killer group,

where one person is often leading the efforts,

where one person is often leading the efforts,

where one person is often leading the efforts,

and another person is sort of assisting

and another person is sort of assisting

in the serial killing role,

in the serial killing role,

so a lot of times, these are motivated by somebody

so a lot of times, these are motivated by somebody

so a lot of times, these are motivated by somebody

trying to have an apprentice, in a way,

trying to have an apprentice, in a way,

where they're leading them on, they're showing them the ropes,

where they're leading them on, they're showing them the ropes,

where they're leading them on, they're showing them the ropes,

and that alone gives them pleasure,

and that alone gives them pleasure,

they feel good about it, and in some cases,

they feel good about it, and in some cases,

it's because they actually need the help.

it's because they actually need the help.

- When you have two partners that are killing together,

- When you have two partners that are killing together,

and one is sort of afraid of their cover being blown,

and one is sort of afraid of their cover being blown,

and one is sort of afraid of their cover being blown,

you know, so is the other one,

you know, so is the other one,

what happens is that when the two engage

what happens is that when the two engage

in these acts together,

in these acts together,

they then protect one another's secret,

they then protect one another's secret,

because, "If you turn on me, I'll turn on you," and so forth,

because, "If you turn on me, I'll turn on you," and so forth,

so you develop a kind of a... a handshake, you know,

so you develop a kind of a... a handshake, you know,

so you develop a kind of a... a handshake, you know,

that you're gonna protect one another's secret.

that you're gonna protect one another's secret.

And that creates an intimacy that, in a bizarre way,

And that creates an intimacy that, in a bizarre way,

And that creates an intimacy that, in a bizarre way,

And that creates an intimacy that, in a bizarre way,

is almost like a kind of love for some people.

is almost like a kind of love for some people.

Uh, and, um, letting that one person in on your twisted secret

Uh, and, um, letting that one person in on your twisted secret

Uh, and, um, letting that one person in on your twisted secret

Uh, and, um, letting that one person in on your twisted secret

kind of a thing.

- NARRATOR: Four months after the murder of Pauline Reade,

- NARRATOR: Four months after the murder of Pauline Reade,

the couple offers 12-year-old John Kilbride a lift home.

the couple offers 12-year-old John Kilbride a lift home.

the couple offers 12-year-old John Kilbride a lift home.

But they take a detour to Saddleworth Moor.

But they take a detour to Saddleworth Moor.

But they take a detour to Saddleworth Moor.

When they reach the moor, Brady takes Kilbride with him,

When they reach the moor, Brady takes Kilbride with him,

while Hindley waits in the car.

while Hindley waits in the car.

He sexually assaults the boy and slits his throat

He sexually assaults the boy and slits his throat

He sexually assaults the boy and slits his throat

with a six-inch serrated knife before strangling him

with a six-inch serrated knife before strangling him

with a six-inch serrated knife before strangling him

with a shoelace.

with a shoelace.

Over the next two years, the killer couple

Over the next two years, the killer couple

murders three more children: Keith Bennett,

murders three more children: Keith Bennett,

murders three more children: Keith Bennett,

ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey, and Edward Evans, who was 17.

ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey, and Edward Evans, who was 17.

ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey, and Edward Evans, who was 17.

ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey, and Edward Evans, who was 17.

- They murdered someone, life is life.

- They murdered someone, life is life.

But in their case, it's five children.

But in their case, it's five children.

But in their case, it's five children.

Five little children, I mean, killing an adult is bad enough,

Five little children, I mean, killing an adult is bad enough,

ain't it? But not five little harmless children like that.

ain't it? But not five little harmless children like that.

ain't it? But not five little harmless children like that.

We read a lot about it for a long, long time.

We read a lot about it for a long, long time.

And it'll never, ever stop.

And it'll never, ever stop.

The heartache never goes away.

The heartache never goes away.

- NARRATOR: Myra Hindley always claims she was never there

- NARRATOR: Myra Hindley always claims she was never there

- NARRATOR: Myra Hindley always claims she was never there

when the children are killed.

when the children are killed.

Although in the court room, a tape recording of Myra Hindley

Although in the court room, a tape recording of Myra Hindley

Although in the court room, a tape recording of Myra Hindley

shouting at a ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey

shouting at a ten-year-old Lesley-Ann Downey

not to spit out a gag

not to spit out a gag

provides a key piece of evidence in her conviction.

provides a key piece of evidence in her conviction.

provides a key piece of evidence in her conviction.

Lesley-Ann's mother is in the court room

Lesley-Ann's mother is in the court room

when the tape is played.

when the tape is played.

She has to endure hearing her baby pleading for mercy

She has to endure hearing her baby pleading for mercy

She has to endure hearing her baby pleading for mercy

and crying for her mom.

and crying for her mom.

- She couldn't be human to stand there

- She couldn't be human to stand there

and let a little girl-- so innocent, ten-year-old,

and let a little girl-- so innocent, ten-year-old,

and let a little girl-- so innocent, ten-year-old,

say, "Please let me go home to mummy."

say, "Please let me go home to mummy."

say, "Please let me go home to mummy."

And just say, "Shut up, or else I'll give you

And just say, "Shut up, or else I'll give you

another gag, [unintelligible]."

another gag, [unintelligible]."

Don't get me wrong, I hate him.

Don't get me wrong, I hate him.

But I detest her.

But I detest her.

To stand by and let a little girl be beat up...

To stand by and let a little girl be beat up...

To stand by and let a little girl be beat up...

where was her motherly instinct?

where was her motherly instinct?

And she made a remark in the paper,

And she made a remark in the paper,

the only thing she's sorry for:

the only thing she's sorry for:

that she never had any children.

that she never had any children.

that she never had any children.

God forbid she did.

God forbid she did.

I want her to die in prison.

I want her to die in prison.

And she should die in prison.

And she should die in prison.

Terrible things she's done, you know.

Terrible things she's done, you know.

She took the most precious thing in the world away from me:

She took the most precious thing in the world away from me:

She took the most precious thing in the world away from me:

She took the most precious thing in the world away from me:

my only daughter.

my only daughter.

- NARRATOR: Now, decades after these horrific crimes,

- NARRATOR: Now, decades after these horrific crimes,

the investigators hope they can trust the twisted mind

the investigators hope they can trust the twisted mind

the investigators hope they can trust the twisted mind

of a team serial killer.

of a team serial killer.

- NARRATOR: Ian Brady and Myra Hindley

are serial killers who work as a team.

are serial killers who work as a team.

In the 1960s, they kidnapped, raped and murdered

In the 1960s, they kidnapped, raped and murdered

In the 1960s, they kidnapped, raped and murdered

five children, ranging in age from ten to 17 years old.

five children, ranging in age from ten to 17 years old.

five children, ranging in age from ten to 17 years old.

Both, only in their 20s themselves,

Both, only in their 20s themselves,

are convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

are convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

are convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Myra claims Ian bullied her into abducting the children,

Myra claims Ian bullied her into abducting the children,

Myra claims Ian bullied her into abducting the children,

and that she was never there when they were killed.

and that she was never there when they were killed.

To prove she's repentant, she agrees to help

To prove she's repentant, she agrees to help

To prove she's repentant, she agrees to help

with the search effort.

with the search effort.

Hindley's attorney, Michael Fisher,

reads her letter claiming she will help the police.

reads her letter claiming she will help the police.

reads her letter claiming she will help the police.

- "I received a letter, the first ever from the mother

- "I received a letter, the first ever from the mother

- "I received a letter, the first ever from the mother

"of one of the missing children.

"of one of the missing children.

"And this has caused me enormous distress.

"And this has caused me enormous distress.

"I have agreed to help the Manchester police

"I have agreed to help the Manchester police

"in any way possible,

"in any way possible,

"and have today identified from photographs and maps,

"and have today identified from photographs and maps,

"and have today identified from photographs and maps,

"places that I know were of particular interest

"places that I know were of particular interest

to Ian Brady, some of which I visited with him."

to Ian Brady, some of which I visited with him."

- We are looking to hopefully find the graves

- We are looking to hopefully find the graves

- We are looking to hopefully find the graves

- We are looking to hopefully find the graves

of Pauline Reade and Keith Bennett.

of Pauline Reade and Keith Bennett.

- NARRATOR: The families and police have been searching

- NARRATOR: The families and police have been searching

for almost 40 years,

for almost 40 years,

and now they believe they are finally on the right track.

and now they believe they are finally on the right track.

- [helicopter whirring] - [dog barking]

- [helicopter whirring] - [dog barking]

- [helicopter whirring] - [dog barking]

- NARRATOR: They hope Myra Hindley's guidance

- NARRATOR: They hope Myra Hindley's guidance

have been truthful.

have been truthful.

- [dog whining]

- [dog whining]

- NARRATOR: In prison, Myra has written

- NARRATOR: In prison, Myra has written

hundreds of letters to her mother,

as well as a revealing autobiography.

as well as a revealing autobiography.

At the heart of her autobiography

At the heart of her autobiography

lies her troubled childhood, and an abusive relationship

lies her troubled childhood, and an abusive relationship

lies her troubled childhood, and an abusive relationship

with her father.

She says she hated him,

and depicts the man as a violent bully.

and depicts the man as a violent bully.

and depicts the man as a violent bully.

- [door creaks]

- [door creaks]

- NARRATOR: Myra seems to have developed an interest

- NARRATOR: Myra seems to have developed an interest

in sadism early on.

But when she joins forces with Ian,

But when she joins forces with Ian,

But when she joins forces with Ian,

this interest explodes into action.

this interest explodes into action.

- DR. FOX: When you have this group together

- DR. FOX: When you have this group together

where they are both feeding off each other

where they are both feeding off each other

and encouraging each other, you may see that just because

and encouraging each other, you may see that just because

neither of them wants to back down or say,

neither of them wants to back down or say,

"No, I don't wanna do that,"

"No, I don't wanna do that,"

they may actually commit crimes and do things they otherwise

they may actually commit crimes and do things they otherwise

would've never done by themselves.

would've never done by themselves.

would've never done by themselves.

- NARRATOR: Ian Brady was born in a Glasgow, Scotland slum,

- NARRATOR: Ian Brady was born in a Glasgow, Scotland slum,

to a single mother who give him up for adoption

to a single mother who give him up for adoption

to a single mother who give him up for adoption

when he is four months old.

when he is four months old.

Brady is a lonely, difficult child

Brady is a lonely, difficult child

who develops a fascination with the Nazis and sadism.

who develops a fascination with the Nazis and sadism.

who develops a fascination with the Nazis and sadism.

Soon, he turns to petty crime and burglary,

Soon, he turns to petty crime and burglary,

and ends up in prison at the age of 17.

and ends up in prison at the age of 17.

and ends up in prison at the age of 17.

Following his release, he becomes even more

Following his release, he becomes even more

Following his release, he becomes even more

of a strange loner,

until he meets Myra Hindley in 1961.

until he meets Myra Hindley in 1961.

until he meets Myra Hindley in 1961.

His sadistic personality leads him to murder,

His sadistic personality leads him to murder,

His sadistic personality leads him to murder,

and a desire to document his heinous crimes

and a desire to document his heinous crimes

with tape recordings and photographs.

with tape recordings and photographs.

with tape recordings and photographs.

Brady and Hindley are eventually caught

Brady and Hindley are eventually caught

when Ian Brady makes an uncharacteristic mistake.

when Ian Brady makes an uncharacteristic mistake.

when Ian Brady makes an uncharacteristic mistake.

He beats Edward Evans to death in front of Myra Hindley's

He beats Edward Evans to death in front of Myra Hindley's

He beats Edward Evans to death in front of Myra Hindley's

brother in law, David Smith.

brother in law, David Smith.

After the killing, Smith alerts the police.

After the killing, Smith alerts the police.

When the police enter the house, they discover the body,

When the police enter the house, they discover the body,

and Ian Brady is arrested immediately.

and Ian Brady is arrested immediately.

and Ian Brady is arrested immediately.

Over the next three days, officers uncover a large cache

Over the next three days, officers uncover a large cache

of souvenirs of the murders and evidence that links Hindley

of souvenirs of the murders and evidence that links Hindley

of souvenirs of the murders and evidence that links Hindley

to the crimes.

The photographs quickly lead the police

The photographs quickly lead the police

to the bodies of Lesley-Ann Downey

to the bodies of Lesley-Ann Downey

and John Kilbride.

and John Kilbride.

The public is outraged over the murders.

The public is outraged over the murders.

The public is outraged over the murders.

24,000 people sign a petition demanding the couple be hanged.

24,000 people sign a petition demanding the couple be hanged.

24,000 people sign a petition demanding the couple be hanged.

The 14-day trial reveals the horrendous details

The 14-day trial reveals the horrendous details

of the crimes.

of the crimes.

Confirmed by the audio tapes and photographs.

Confirmed by the audio tapes and photographs.

Confirmed by the audio tapes and photographs.

The jury finds Brady guilty of the murders

The jury finds Brady guilty of the murders

of Downey, Kilbride, and Evans.

of Downey, Kilbride, and Evans.

of Downey, Kilbride, and Evans.

The bodies of Bennett and Reade have not been found,

The bodies of Bennett and Reade have not been found,

so those cases are not included.

so those cases are not included.

so those cases are not included.

Hindley is convicted of the Downey and Evans homicides.

Hindley is convicted of the Downey and Evans homicides.

Hindley is convicted of the Downey and Evans homicides.

Both are given multiple life sentences.

Both are given multiple life sentences.

Both are given multiple life sentences.

Over the years, the moors murderers maintain

Over the years, the moors murderers maintain

a bond, even though they serve in separate prisons.

a bond, even though they serve in separate prisons.

a bond, even though they serve in separate prisons.

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- NARRATOR: Myra's sentence indicates she cannot be paroled

- NARRATOR: Myra's sentence indicates she cannot be paroled

for 26 years,

but she grows increasingly desperate to get out.

but she grows increasingly desperate to get out.

but she grows increasingly desperate to get out.

Has this cunning and heartless killer convinced the world

Has this cunning and heartless killer convinced the world

Has this cunning and heartless killer convinced the world

she deserves to be set free?

she deserves to be set free?

- ANDREW: She's hyped as the more evil of the two,

- ANDREW: She's hyped as the more evil of the two,

when in fact, all the evidence plainly points to her having

when in fact, all the evidence plainly points to her having

when in fact, all the evidence plainly points to her having

a lesser role.

a lesser role.

Now, for that, she should've indeed been severely punished,

Now, for that, she should've indeed been severely punished,

but the two cases are to be distinguished,

but the two cases are to be distinguished,

and yet she's got the same time in jail as Brady,

and yet she's got the same time in jail as Brady,

and yet she's got the same time in jail as Brady,

who was a psychopath before he met her.

who was a psychopath before he met her.

- I shall find her wherever she is.

- I shall find her wherever she is.

- I shall find her wherever she is.

I shall find her.

I've said this for 20 years.

I've said this for 20 years.

That woman will not live when she comes out of prison,

That woman will not live when she comes out of prison,

That woman will not live when she comes out of prison,

and other people have said they'll do it for me,

and other people have said they'll do it for me,

I don't want that, I don't want nobody to get in trouble,

I don't want that, I don't want nobody to get in trouble,

especially my boys, they've got their lives to live,

especially my boys, they've got their lives to live,

especially my boys, they've got their lives to live,

I'm half-dead now, I'm living on pills.

I'm half-dead now, I'm living on pills.

I will willingly do that woman in

I will willingly do that woman in

I will willingly do that woman in

and take my punishment,

and I will expect to be put in prison,

and I will expect to be put in prison,

where I shall stay until the end of my days.

where I shall stay until the end of my days.

where I shall stay until the end of my days.

- NARRATOR: The serial killer team

- NARRATOR: The serial killer team

of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley

of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley

are serving life sentences for their atrocities.

are serving life sentences for their atrocities.

are serving life sentences for their atrocities.

Myra continues to deny any involvement in the murders,

Myra continues to deny any involvement in the murders,

and cooperates with authorities.

Her unwillingness to confess to any involvement

Her unwillingness to confess to any involvement

makes her a figure of public loathing.

makes her a figure of public loathing.

Then, in the mid-1980s, 20 years after their crimes,

Then, in the mid-1980s, 20 years after their crimes,

Then, in the mid-1980s, 20 years after their crimes,

Ian Brady tells a journalist that there are two other bodies

Ian Brady tells a journalist that there are two other bodies

Ian Brady tells a journalist that there are two other bodies

buried on Saddleworth Moor.

buried on Saddleworth Moor.

Police reopen the case.

Police reopen the case.

Hindley helps locate the body of Pauline Reade.

Hindley helps locate the body of Pauline Reade.

Hindley helps locate the body of Pauline Reade.

And also agrees to continue to help find the body

And also agrees to continue to help find the body

of Keith Bennett.

of Keith Bennett.

- I do know now, indeed, I've settled it quite recently,

- I do know now, indeed, I've settled it quite recently,

- I do know now, indeed, I've settled it quite recently,

which body we're looking for there.

which body we're looking for there.

The body, in fact, that we took from the moor, um,

The body, in fact, that we took from the moor, um,

The body, in fact, that we took from the moor, um,

earlier this week-- [clears throat]

earlier this week-- [clears throat]

I'm not sure is that of Pauline Reade.

I'm not sure is that of Pauline Reade.

- NARRATOR: Hindley finally admits her guilt.

- NARRATOR: Hindley finally admits her guilt.

- She's confessed that she is, uh, guilty of participating

- She's confessed that she is, uh, guilty of participating

- She's confessed that she is, uh, guilty of participating

in these crimes, so she would be guilty

in these crimes, so she would be guilty

of the crime of murder, yes.

of the crime of murder, yes.

- NARRATOR: Brady then volunteers to help as well,

- NARRATOR: Brady then volunteers to help as well,

- NARRATOR: Brady then volunteers to help as well,

and is taken to the moor to help locate the last victim.

and is taken to the moor to help locate the last victim.

The search is in vain,

The search is in vain,

and some believe Brady was just trying

and some believe Brady was just trying

to get another thrill by revisiting the crime scene.

to get another thrill by revisiting the crime scene.

to get another thrill by revisiting the crime scene.

So what creates these depraved couples?

So what creates these depraved couples?

A cutting-edge new tool is now available to allow

A cutting-edge new tool is now available to allow

A cutting-edge new tool is now available to allow

much greater insight into the minds and motivations

much greater insight into the minds and motivations

much greater insight into the minds and motivations

of all serial murderers.

of all serial murderers.

Bradford University and Florida Golf Coast University

Bradford University and Florida Golf Coast University

have created the remarkable serial killer database.

have created the remarkable serial killer database.

have created the remarkable serial killer database.

Researchers and students have compiled an astounding wealth

Researchers and students have compiled an astounding wealth

of information on over 5,000 serial killers

of information on over 5,000 serial killers

of information on over 5,000 serial killers

of information on over 5,000 serial killers

from the year 1900 through today.

from the year 1900 through today.

from the year 1900 through today.

- Specifically, we have 186 variables, uh,

- Specifically, we have 186 variables, uh,

- Specifically, we have 186 variables, uh,

related to serial killers,

related to serial killers,

such as early childhood issues,

such as early childhood issues,

parental abuse, humiliation, and we have that data

parental abuse, humiliation, and we have that data

parental abuse, humiliation, and we have that data

from at least five or six different sources

from at least five or six different sources

that allows us to make sure that the data

that allows us to make sure that the data

is accurate and valid,

is accurate and valid,

and this allows us to develop a profile on serial killers,

and this allows us to develop a profile on serial killers,

and this allows us to develop a profile on serial killers,

and this allows us to develop a profile on serial killers,

relative to these factors.

- NARRATOR: As for serial killer teams,

- NARRATOR: As for serial killer teams,

the database results show that about 22%

the database results show that about 22%

the database results show that about 22%

work with an accomplice.

work with an accomplice.

And often, the team is a man and a woman.

And often, the team is a man and a woman.

And often, the team is a man and a woman.

- TERRY: The research is telling us,

- TERRY: The research is telling us,

- TERRY: The research is telling us,

women are viewed as compliant victims

women are viewed as compliant victims

and not major perpetrators,

and not major perpetrators,

under the gender bias that women can't be as tough

under the gender bias that women can't be as tough

under the gender bias that women can't be as tough

and as mean and rotten as men,

and as mean and rotten as men,

so they must have been forced into an accomplice role here,

so they must have been forced into an accomplice role here,

so they must have been forced into an accomplice role here,

uh, by these vicious men and so forth.

uh, by these vicious men and so forth.

uh, by these vicious men and so forth.

So, in a couple of cases, we're finding out,

So, in a couple of cases, we're finding out,

women, uh, turn state's evidence, and as a result,

women, uh, turn state's evidence, and as a result,

only receive from ten to 15 years' incarceration,

only receive from ten to 15 years' incarceration,

only receive from ten to 15 years' incarceration,

only receive from ten to 15 years' incarceration,

versus the men who ended up on death row

versus the men who ended up on death row

for very similar kinds of crimes.

for very similar kinds of crimes.

for very similar kinds of crimes.

And we're also finding that the women in some cases

And we're also finding that the women in some cases

And we're also finding that the women in some cases

were far from compliant victims.

were far from compliant victims.

- NARRATOR: The database reveals interesting facts

- NARRATOR: The database reveals interesting facts

about the relationship between killer couple

about the relationship between killer couple

Charlene and Gerald Gallego.

Charlene and Gerald Gallego.

This team first abducted their victims,

This team first abducted their victims,

primarily teenagers.

primarily teenagers.

Most were kept as sex slaves before they were killed.

Most were kept as sex slaves before they were killed.

Most were kept as sex slaves before they were killed.

The total count is ten teenagers who lost their lives.

The total count is ten teenagers who lost their lives.

The total count is ten teenagers who lost their lives.

- TERRY: In the case, for example, of Charlene Gallego,

- TERRY: In the case, for example, of Charlene Gallego,

she had an IQ of 150,

she had an IQ of 150,

she had an IQ of 150,

was an accomplished pianist, and was extremely shrewd.

was an accomplished pianist, and was extremely shrewd.

was an accomplished pianist, and was extremely shrewd.

Gerald Gallego, her husband, conversely,

Gerald Gallego, her husband, conversely,

Gerald Gallego, her husband, conversely,

had an intelligence quotient in the double digits.

had an intelligence quotient in the double digits.

had an intelligence quotient in the double digits.

And they both would simultaneously seek women

And they both would simultaneously seek women

And they both would simultaneously seek women

as their prey,

as their prey,

and they would choose two women at a time,

and they would choose two women at a time,

one that suited Charlene's purposes,

one that suited Charlene's purposes,

and one, Gerald's purposes.

and one, Gerald's purposes.

In another point, she actually left Gerald.

In another point, she actually left Gerald.

So the capacity to leave someone under those circumstances,

So the capacity to leave someone under those circumstances,

So the capacity to leave someone under those circumstances,

So the capacity to leave someone under those circumstances,

then followed by a decision to come back to this environment,

then followed by a decision to come back to this environment,

then followed by a decision to come back to this environment,

then followed by a decision to come back to this environment,

really dilutes the, uh, the suggestion that being

really dilutes the, uh, the suggestion that being

really dilutes the, uh, the suggestion that being

really dilutes the, uh, the suggestion that being

a compliant victim really applies in this situation.

a compliant victim really applies in this situation.

a compliant victim really applies in this situation.

- NARRATOR: The Gallegos are arrested after a friend

- NARRATOR: The Gallegos are arrested after a friend

of their last victim witnessed the abduction and gave police

of their last victim witnessed the abduction and gave police

of their last victim witnessed the abduction and gave police

the license plate number of the Gallegos' car.

the license plate number of the Gallegos' car.

the license plate number of the Gallegos' car.

Gerald is sentenced to death at San Quentin State Prison,

Gerald is sentenced to death at San Quentin State Prison,

but dies in 2002 of cancer while awaiting the execution.

but dies in 2002 of cancer while awaiting the execution.

but dies in 2002 of cancer while awaiting the execution.

but dies in 2002 of cancer while awaiting the execution.

Charlene cuts a deal with the authorities,

Charlene cuts a deal with the authorities,

Charlene cuts a deal with the authorities,

and testifies against her husband.

and testifies against her husband.

She spends 16 years behind bars.

She spends 16 years behind bars.

- But there's a shift now to treating women equitably

- But there's a shift now to treating women equitably

- But there's a shift now to treating women equitably

- But there's a shift now to treating women equitably

as heinous perpetrators,

as heinous perpetrators,

as opposed to just compliant victims.

as opposed to just compliant victims.

It's another area of research right now we're looking at.

It's another area of research right now we're looking at.

It's another area of research right now we're looking at.

- NARRATOR: The data shows there are also many instances

- NARRATOR: The data shows there are also many instances

of two men working together as serial murderers.

of two men working together as serial murderers.

of two men working together as serial murderers.

American serial killer Henry Lee Lucas

American serial killer Henry Lee Lucas

American serial killer Henry Lee Lucas

claims he has murdered hundreds of victims.

claims he has murdered hundreds of victims.

In more than 100 cases, he says his partner in crime

In more than 100 cases, he says his partner in crime

In more than 100 cases, he says his partner in crime

was Ottis Toole.

was Ottis Toole.

- The last count was 600.

- The last count was 600.

I gave over 3,000, uh...

I gave over 3,000, uh...

I gave over 3,000, uh...

I think 3,608 confessions, I think that's what it was.

I think 3,608 confessions, I think that's what it was.

I think 3,608 confessions, I think that's what it was.

I think 3,608 confessions, I think that's what it was.

Um...declared homicides.

Um...declared homicides.

- It's a perverse version of "Two heads are better than one,"

- It's a perverse version of "Two heads are better than one,"

- It's a perverse version of "Two heads are better than one,"

with Ottis Toole being-- probably psychotic,

with Ottis Toole being-- probably psychotic,

with Ottis Toole being-- probably psychotic,

intellectually impaired, uh, and, um, Henry Lee Lucas

intellectually impaired, uh, and, um, Henry Lee Lucas

intellectually impaired, uh, and, um, Henry Lee Lucas

sort of being the one who's more dominant of the two.

sort of being the one who's more dominant of the two.

sort of being the one who's more dominant of the two.

- NARRATOR: The two killers not only shared the thrill

- NARRATOR: The two killers not only shared the thrill

of killing, they sometimes raped their victims as well.

of killing, they sometimes raped their victims as well.

of killing, they sometimes raped their victims as well.

Their prey included essentially anyone they ran into:

Their prey included essentially anyone they ran into:

Their prey included essentially anyone they ran into:

hitch-hikers, prostitutes, and migrant workers.

hitch-hikers, prostitutes, and migrant workers.

hitch-hikers, prostitutes, and migrant workers.

And their heinous crimes even extended into other

And their heinous crimes even extended into other

deviant sexual acts.

deviant sexual acts.

- For example, uh, Ottis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas,

- For example, uh, Ottis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas,

- For example, uh, Ottis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas,

- For example, uh, Ottis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas,

where there was no--not really predominantly motivated by rape

where there was no--not really predominantly motivated by rape

where there was no--not really predominantly motivated by rape

so much as the desire to commit necrophilia

so much as the desire to commit necrophilia

so much as the desire to commit necrophilia

and cannibalism-- - INTERVIEWER: Mm-hmm.

- So you had a necrophile and a cannibal working together,

- So you had a necrophile and a cannibal working together,

- So you had a necrophile and a cannibal working together,

uh, you know, Ottis Toole, who infamously created

uh, you know, Ottis Toole, who infamously created

a barbecue sauce for eating people,

a barbecue sauce for eating people,

and all that sort of thing-- they hooked up, and, um,

and all that sort of thing-- they hooked up, and, um,

sort of, the idea was you had two people

sort of, the idea was you had two people

who were getting their needs met together.

who were getting their needs met together.

- NARRATOR: The couple is notoriously known

- NARRATOR: The couple is notoriously known

for the murder of Adam Walsh,

for the murder of Adam Walsh,

the six-year-old son of John Walsh,

the six-year-old son of John Walsh,

host of TV's "America's Most Wanted."

host of TV's "America's Most Wanted."

Toole was the one to kill Adam

after abducting him from the mall in Hollywood, Florida.

after abducting him from the mall in Hollywood, Florida.

after abducting him from the mall in Hollywood, Florida.

Two weeks later, a fisherman finds the boy's severed head

Two weeks later, a fisherman finds the boy's severed head

Two weeks later, a fisherman finds the boy's severed head

in a canal 120 miles away, near Vero Beach.

in a canal 120 miles away, near Vero Beach.

in a canal 120 miles away, near Vero Beach.

It took more than 20 years before the boy's parents

It took more than 20 years before the boy's parents

It took more than 20 years before the boy's parents

learned the truth from Toole's niece,

learned the truth from Toole's niece,

after the killer had died in Florida State Prison.

after the killer had died in Florida State Prison.

after the killer had died in Florida State Prison.

Lucas makes several claims to be an accomplice in the murder,

Lucas makes several claims to be an accomplice in the murder,

Lucas makes several claims to be an accomplice in the murder,

but he retracts them, and the police never prove

but he retracts them, and the police never prove

his involvement.

his involvement.

The serial killer database also reveals

The serial killer database also reveals

compelling information about the role of abusive childhoods

compelling information about the role of abusive childhoods

compelling information about the role of abusive childhoods

in creating these monsters.

in creating these monsters.

in creating these monsters.

Along with humiliation, a pattern of being bullied

Along with humiliation, a pattern of being bullied

is also recognized in the data.

is also recognized in the data.

is also recognized in the data.

- And we call that inner database, teasing.

- And we call that inner database, teasing.

- And we call that inner database, teasing.

Which coincides with bullying,

Which coincides with bullying,

but bullying has a very serious impact

but bullying has a very serious impact

in one's propensity to engage in these behaviors.

in one's propensity to engage in these behaviors.

in one's propensity to engage in these behaviors.

That doesn't mean that everyone who's been bullied

That doesn't mean that everyone who's been bullied

That doesn't mean that everyone who's been bullied

is gonna become a serial killer.

is gonna become a serial killer.

I think the key here is to look at that

I think the key here is to look at that

in conjunction with other variables.

in conjunction with other variables.

in conjunction with other variables.

- NARRATOR: Both Lucas and Toole were bullied

- NARRATOR: Both Lucas and Toole were bullied

by their abusive mothers.

by their abusive mothers.

- HENRY: Brutalized is more the name of it.

I was beaten with sticks, whatever she'd get in her hands,

I was beaten with sticks, whatever she'd get in her hands,

I was beaten with sticks, whatever she'd get in her hands,

there was a piece of stoke wood, she hit me with it,

there was a piece of stoke wood, she hit me with it,

if there was a rock, she hit me with, you know.

if there was a rock, she hit me with, you know.

if there was a rock, she hit me with, you know.

She'd take poles and just pound the devil out of me.

She'd take poles and just pound the devil out of me.

She'd take poles and just pound the devil out of me.

Uh, I've got scars all over my body from it.

Uh, I've got scars all over my body from it.

- NARRATOR: Lucas's rage builds up after years

- NARRATOR: Lucas's rage builds up after years

of this terrible abuse.

of this terrible abuse.

Until he finally snaps and kills his own mother.

Until he finally snaps and kills his own mother.

Until he finally snaps and kills his own mother.

Until he finally snaps and kills his own mother.

- My mom was a prostitute, you know,

- My mom was a prostitute, you know,

she sold herself and I was made to watch her and, uh...

she sold herself and I was made to watch her and, uh...

she sold herself and I was made to watch her and, uh...

I mean, it was just a life that I don't want, you know?

I mean, it was just a life that I don't want, you know?

I mean, it was just a life that I don't want, you know?

- And Henry Lee Lucas who had actually necrophiliacly

- And Henry Lee Lucas who had actually necrophiliacly

- And Henry Lee Lucas who had actually necrophiliacly

- And Henry Lee Lucas who had actually necrophiliacly

assaulted his own mother after killing her.

assaulted his own mother after killing her.

- HENRY: A hate builds up inside of a person,

- HENRY: A hate builds up inside of a person,

- HENRY: A hate builds up inside of a person,

it takes away his reality.

it takes away his reality.

'Cause reality--all reality left me.

'Cause reality--all reality left me.

'Cause reality--all reality left me.

You know, things that--I would go around and be around

You know, things that--I would go around and be around

You know, things that--I would go around and be around

just, uh...was a blank to me, you know.

just, uh...was a blank to me, you know.

just, uh...was a blank to me, you know.

- NARRATOR: Toole's childhood was even more abusive.

- NARRATOR: Toole's childhood was even more abusive.

- NARRATOR: Toole's childhood was even more abusive.

He was assaulted by almost every person he thought

He was assaulted by almost every person he thought

he could trust.

he could trust.

His mother dressed him up as a girl.

His mother dressed him up as a girl.

His older sister raped him before he turned ten,

His older sister raped him before he turned ten,

and his father, the worst of them all,

and his father, the worst of them all,

prostituted him to a neighbor when he was only five years old.

prostituted him to a neighbor when he was only five years old.

prostituted him to a neighbor when he was only five years old.

prostituted him to a neighbor when he was only five years old.

- NARRATOR: Clearly, abusive childhoods are often

- NARRATOR: Clearly, abusive childhoods are often

found in the backgrounds of team murderers,

found in the backgrounds of team murderers,

whether it's two men, or a man and a woman.

whether it's two men, or a man and a woman.

One of history's most horrific killer couples

One of history's most horrific killer couples

began with a domineering man

began with a domineering man

and his submissive teenaged wife.

and his submissive teenaged wife.

and his submissive teenaged wife.

But over the years, she learns to become

But over the years, she learns to become

an equal partner in unspeakable evil.

an equal partner in unspeakable evil.

an equal partner in unspeakable evil.

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- NARRATOR: Serial killers who act as a team

- NARRATOR: Serial killers who act as a team

are responsible for some of the most despicable murders

are responsible for some of the most despicable murders

in the annos of crime.

in the annos of crime.

Sometimes, the deadly duos are two men who are friends

Sometimes, the deadly duos are two men who are friends

or relatives.

or relatives.

And sometimes the couple are romantically involved,

And sometimes the couple are romantically involved,

often a man and woman that get sexual thrills

often a man and woman that get sexual thrills

often a man and woman that get sexual thrills

from their despicable homicides.

from their despicable homicides.

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- NARRATOR: Fred and Rosemary West

- NARRATOR: Fred and Rosemary West

are a married team of serial rapists and murderers

are a married team of serial rapists and murderers

are a married team of serial rapists and murderers

who slaughtered more than 16 young women,

who slaughtered more than 16 young women,

beginning in the 1960s.

beginning in the 1960s.

Their gruesome signature is chopping off the fingers

Their gruesome signature is chopping off the fingers

Their gruesome signature is chopping off the fingers

and toes of their victims.

and toes of their victims.

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- NARRATOR: While Fred is still a teenager,

- NARRATOR: While Fred is still a teenager,

he becomes a child molester and burglar.

he becomes a child molester and burglar.

he becomes a child molester and burglar.

At 21, he marries Rena Costello,

At 21, he marries Rena Costello,

At 21, he marries Rena Costello,

and becomes stepfather to her daughter

and becomes stepfather to her daughter

from her first marriage.

They soon have a daughter of their own.

They soon have a daughter of their own.

When Fred is 28,

he meets 15-year-old Rosemary Letts

he meets 15-year-old Rosemary Letts

and the two fall in love.

and the two fall in love.

Rosemary's family is immediately suspicious of Fred.

Rosemary's family is immediately suspicious of Fred.

Rosemary's family is immediately suspicious of Fred.

- We were all shocked and dismayed, really,

- We were all shocked and dismayed, really,

- We were all shocked and dismayed, really,

because Fred was quite a bit older than Rosemary.

because Fred was quite a bit older than Rosemary.

Quite scruffy-looking.

Quite scruffy-looking.

And his first impression is-- when you try to make

And his first impression is-- when you try to make

And his first impression is-- when you try to make

a conversation with him, was he was an out-and-out liar.

a conversation with him, was he was an out-and-out liar.

- NARRATOR: The family has no idea Fred is still married

- NARRATOR: The family has no idea Fred is still married

- NARRATOR: The family has no idea Fred is still married

to Rena.

to Rena.

- We only found out, um, some months later,

- We only found out, um, some months later,

- We only found out, um, some months later,

when there were various other things

when there were various other things

that kept propping up, that we were finding out about.

that kept propping up, that we were finding out about.

One was his marriage, there was another one about

One was his marriage, there was another one about

One was his marriage, there was another one about

he'd been in prison...

he'd been in prison...

- NARRATOR: Soon, Rena disappears.

- NARRATOR: Soon, Rena disappears.

And then her first daughter, Charmaine, also vanishes.

And then her first daughter, Charmaine, also vanishes.

And then her first daughter, Charmaine, also vanishes.

Fred claims they moved to Scotland.

Fred claims they moved to Scotland.

- GRAHAM: Charmaine, we was told,

- GRAHAM: Charmaine, we was told,

preferred to be with her mother.

preferred to be with her mother.

And that was the reason why she disappeared,

And that was the reason why she disappeared,

And that was the reason why she disappeared,

and Scotland was a very long way away at the time,

and Scotland was a very long way away at the time,

and Scotland was a very long way away at the time,

although we loved Charmaine, all of us, dearly,

although we loved Charmaine, all of us, dearly,

although we loved Charmaine, all of us, dearly,

um, but it was maybe a little bit strange,

um, but it was maybe a little bit strange,

that she suddenly wanted to go back

that she suddenly wanted to go back

and not to say "Cheerio."

and not to say "Cheerio."

- NARRATOR: Rena and Charmaine's murdered bodies are found

- NARRATOR: Rena and Charmaine's murdered bodies are found

years later.

years later.

Meanwhile, the Wests' neighbor, Liz Agius,

Meanwhile, the Wests' neighbor, Liz Agius,

Meanwhile, the Wests' neighbor, Liz Agius,

notices Fred and Rosemary's unusual lifestyle.

notices Fred and Rosemary's unusual lifestyle.

notices Fred and Rosemary's unusual lifestyle.

- LIZ: As I got to know Rosemary and Fred West,

- LIZ: As I got to know Rosemary and Fred West,

um, Rose started telling me about her personal life,

um, Rose started telling me about her personal life,

um, Rose started telling me about her personal life,

how did I feel about it by-- she was a prostitute.

how did I feel about it by-- she was a prostitute.

how did I feel about it by-- she was a prostitute.

I just told her what-- it was her business,

I just told her what-- it was her business,

it was nothing to do with me.

it was nothing to do with me.

She did go into details, like she had microphones

She did go into details, like she had microphones

or something in the bedroom, because if she ever had, uh,

or something in the bedroom, because if she ever had, uh,

or something in the bedroom, because if she ever had, uh,

clients there, Fred was always on the opposite side,

clients there, Fred was always on the opposite side,

clients there, Fred was always on the opposite side,

into the next room, and, um,

into the next room, and, um,

he likes to listen to things like that.

he likes to listen to things like that.

he likes to listen to things like that.

Weird. Absolutely weird, but...their life.

Weird. Absolutely weird, but...their life.

Weird. Absolutely weird, but...their life.

It--it was up to them to do whatever--I thought--

It--it was up to them to do whatever--I thought--

turned them on, and, you know,

turned them on, and, you know,

I never took no notice, really.

I never took no notice, really.

I liked her for what she was, and, you know,

I liked her for what she was, and, you know,

as a friend, what she did is her own business--

as a friend, what she did is her own business--

her own life...

her own life...

- NARRATOR: Liz quickly grows nervous about Fred.

- NARRATOR: Liz quickly grows nervous about Fred.

- NARRATOR: Liz quickly grows nervous about Fred.

- LIZ: Well, he started off a casual conversation,

- LIZ: Well, he started off a casual conversation,

- LIZ: Well, he started off a casual conversation,

like, "How are you? Where have you been?"

like, "How are you? Where have you been?"

and then as time went by, it got to sex,

and then as time went by, it got to sex,

he always talked about sex, um, used to say to me,

he always talked about sex, um, used to say to me,

he always talked about sex, um, used to say to me,

he always talked about sex, um, used to say to me,

"What I could do with you in bed,"

"What I could do with you in bed,"

and would I like to try it with him,

and would I like to try it with him,

if I liked having all three in the bed,

if I liked having all three in the bed,

him, Rose and myself.

him, Rose and myself.

him, Rose and myself.

Um, how would I feel like if I went on the game...

Um, how would I feel like if I went on the game...

Um, how would I feel like if I went on the game...

it was just sex, sex, sex, sex-mad.

it was just sex, sex, sex, sex-mad.

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- NARRATOR: Before long, it becomes clear that there are

- NARRATOR: Before long, it becomes clear that there are

troubling things happening at the Wests' home.

troubling things happening at the Wests' home.

troubling things happening at the Wests' home.

- He said to me that he likes to go around

- He said to me that he likes to go around

finding young girls so that-- because they run away,

finding young girls so that-- because they run away,

finding young girls so that-- because they run away,

they've got no home, he will support them

they've got no home, he will support them

by giving them a roof on their-- over their heads,

by giving them a roof on their-- over their heads,

by giving them a roof on their-- over their heads,

and--and if they wanna go on the game, work for him.

and--and if they wanna go on the game, work for him.

and--and if they wanna go on the game, work for him.

Then, one day, Rose knocked on the door.

Then, one day, Rose knocked on the door.

Then, one day, Rose knocked on the door.

She said she was going out with Fred.

She said she was going out with Fred.

And I said, "Why are you going with him?" you know.

And I said, "Why are you going with him?" you know.

And I said, "Why are you going with him?" you know.

And she turned around and said to me,

And she turned around and said to me,

as long as there's a woman in the car with a male,

as long as there's a woman in the car with a male,

as long as there's a woman in the car with a male,

there's always an easy chance for another girl,

there's always an easy chance for another girl,

who they're gonna pick up, will get inside the car,

who they're gonna pick up, will get inside the car,

who they're gonna pick up, will get inside the car,

because she will be there with him.

because she will be there with him.

- NARRATOR: In the cellar of the West home,

- NARRATOR: In the cellar of the West home,

young victims are subjected to brutal sexual assaults.

young victims are subjected to brutal sexual assaults.

young victims are subjected to brutal sexual assaults.

After binding them and taping their mouths shut,

After binding them and taping their mouths shut,

the Wests carry out acts of sexual perversion and torture.

the Wests carry out acts of sexual perversion and torture.

the Wests carry out acts of sexual perversion and torture.

the Wests carry out acts of sexual perversion and torture.

Some of the victims die in the process.

Some of the victims die in the process.

Others cannot be allowed to live.

Others cannot be allowed to live.

Fred hints at what's going on to his neighbor

Fred hints at what's going on to his neighbor

when he shows her his cellar.

when he shows her his cellar.

when he shows her his cellar.

- LIZ: We went down there.

And Fred said, um, he wasn't sure what to make of this yet,

And Fred said, um, he wasn't sure what to make of this yet,

And Fred said, um, he wasn't sure what to make of this yet,

he said, "I don't know whether to make it a playing area

he said, "I don't know whether to make it a playing area

for the children,"

for the children,"

or he'd nudge me and he used to say,

or he'd nudge me and he used to say,

"Or else I can make this into my torture room,"

"Or else I can make this into my torture room,"

and things like that, he'd say, "Just think,"

and things like that, he'd say, "Just think,"

he said, "What I could do to you down here," and he said

he said, "What I could do to you down here," and he said

he said, "What I could do to you down here," and he said

no one in it--nobody would hear me.

no one in it--nobody would hear me.

He said, "'Cause I'd make it soundproof,"

He said, "'Cause I'd make it soundproof,"

and I'd say, "Ah, keep wishing."

and I'd say, "Ah, keep wishing."

Once, me and Rose were sit-- well, I was in what they call

Once, me and Rose were sit-- well, I was in what they call

the sitting room, but there was beds as well

the sitting room, but there was beds as well

inside there in this room.

inside there in this room.

And I was sitting on the sattee,

Rose was making a cup of tea,

Rose was making a cup of tea,

Rose was making a cup of tea,

and then, next thing, Fred come behind from the door,

and then, next thing, Fred come behind from the door,

put these handcuffs on me, and I was quite nervous on it,

put these handcuffs on me, and I was quite nervous on it,

put these handcuffs on me, and I was quite nervous on it,

and then Rose turned around and said,

and then Rose turned around and said,

"Get them off her," you know, just like that.

"Get them off her," you know, just like that.

And without any hesitation, he took them off.

And without any hesitation, he took them off.

He said, "I was only joking."

He said, "I was only joking."

- NARRATOR: Still, the neighbor doesn't comprehend

- NARRATOR: Still, the neighbor doesn't comprehend

what's going on in the West home.

what's going on in the West home.

- LIZ: All I knew was that Rose was a prostitute,

- LIZ: All I knew was that Rose was a prostitute,

- LIZ: All I knew was that Rose was a prostitute,

and they both hired other women as prostitutes,

and they both hired other women as prostitutes,

but I didn't see any, it's only what they told me.

but I didn't see any, it's only what they told me.

but I didn't see any, it's only what they told me.

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- LIZ: I didn't know they was gonna kill anybody.

- LIZ: I didn't know they was gonna kill anybody.

- LIZ: I didn't know they was gonna kill anybody.

Or torture anybody.

Or torture anybody.

You wouldn't have thought that they were

You wouldn't have thought that they were

the type of couple that would've done that.

the type of couple that would've done that.

- NARRATOR: It's not hard to understand

- NARRATOR: It's not hard to understand

her not knowing the truth,

her not knowing the truth,

because what's actually happening in the home

because what's actually happening in the home

of Fred and Rosemary West is simply beyond comprehension.

of Fred and Rosemary West is simply beyond comprehension.

of Fred and Rosemary West is simply beyond comprehension.

- NARRATOR: Deadly duo Fred and Rosemary West

- NARRATOR: Deadly duo Fred and Rosemary West

are systematically torturing and killing young women

are systematically torturing and killing young women

are systematically torturing and killing young women

in the cellar of their home at 25 Cromwell Street

in the cellar of their home at 25 Cromwell Street

in the cellar of their home at 25 Cromwell Street

in Gloucestershire, England.

in Gloucestershire, England.

The address is soon to become the most notorious

The address is soon to become the most notorious

The address is soon to become the most notorious

in Great Britain,

as the Wests' killing spree has gone undetected

as the Wests' killing spree has gone undetected

as the Wests' killing spree has gone undetected

for over 20 years.

for over 20 years.

Like many serial killers, both Fred and Rosemary

Like many serial killers, both Fred and Rosemary

endured violent, abusive childhoods.

endured violent, abusive childhoods.

endured violent, abusive childhoods.

Rosemary was the fifth of seven children.

Rosemary was the fifth of seven children.

Rosemary was the fifth of seven children.

People found her slow

People found her slow

and she had trouble making friends.

and she had trouble making friends.

On the surface, the family seemed ordinary,

On the surface, the family seemed ordinary,

but in fact, there was terrible abuse.

but in fact, there was terrible abuse.

but in fact, there was terrible abuse.

Rosemary and her brothers and sisters suffered

Rosemary and her brothers and sisters suffered

frequent beatings at the hands

frequent beatings at the hands

of their tyrannical father, Bill Letts,

of their tyrannical father, Bill Letts,

who was a diagnosed schizophrenic.

who was a diagnosed schizophrenic.

who was a diagnosed schizophrenic.

- He was a madman, complete madman

- He was a madman, complete madman

when he was in these rage of temper fits or whatever.

when he was in these rage of temper fits or whatever.

when he was in these rage of temper fits or whatever.

- Nobody was excluded from it, um, my mother included.

- Nobody was excluded from it, um, my mother included.

- Nobody was excluded from it, um, my mother included.

- GIRL: [screaming] - GRAHAM: And we all lived

- GIRL: [screaming] - GRAHAM: And we all lived

under the stress of what he would do next.

under the stress of what he would do next.

under the stress of what he would do next.

- NARRATOR: Fred and Rosemary formed an inseparable bond.

- NARRATOR: Fred and Rosemary formed an inseparable bond.

A devoted connection forged in murder.

A devoted connection forged in murder.

A devoted connection forged in murder.

- GRAHAM: Um, always happy, always--

- GRAHAM: Um, always happy, always--

- WOMAN: Pretty. - Pretty little thing, yeah.

- WOMAN: Pretty. - Pretty little thing, yeah.

- WOMAN: Pretty. - Pretty little thing, yeah.

And then one day, she just...

And then one day, she just...

she wasn't there anymore.

- NARRATOR: Over the years, the couple is investigated,

- NARRATOR: Over the years, the couple is investigated,

but charges are never filed.

but charges are never filed.

Despite the fact that the police suspect links between

Despite the fact that the police suspect links between

Despite the fact that the police suspect links between

the growing number of missing women.

the growing number of missing women.

- RICKY: So in police circles and local gossip

- RICKY: So in police circles and local gossip

between the police officers,

between the police officers,

we strongly believed that one person was responsible

we strongly believed that one person was responsible

for all of those killings, and presumption is

for all of those killings, and presumption is

that person would be local.

that person would be local.

Um, serial killer, well that wasn't a--wasn't a word

Um, serial killer, well that wasn't a--wasn't a word

Um, serial killer, well that wasn't a--wasn't a word

branded about in the 70s, but, I guess you could call it that.

branded about in the 70s, but, I guess you could call it that.

branded about in the 70s, but, I guess you could call it that.

That it was quite firmly believed that one person

That it was quite firmly believed that one person

was responsible and that he could well be a local person,

was responsible and that he could well be a local person,

was responsible and that he could well be a local person,

but who that person was, well,

but who that person was, well,

we didn't know it was Fred West, that's for sure.

we didn't know it was Fred West, that's for sure.

- NARRATOR: The sort of youngsters staying

at Cromwell Street are the ideal victims.

at Cromwell Street are the ideal victims.

at Cromwell Street are the ideal victims.

Many of them having just recently left home.

Many of them having just recently left home.

Many of them having just recently left home.

- LIZ BREWER: They were like me, you know,

[unintelligible]

[unintelligible]

and they were probably enjoying life to the full.

and they were probably enjoying life to the full.

and they were probably enjoying life to the full.

Maybe they didn't have their relatives close by.

Maybe they didn't have their relatives close by.

Maybe they didn't have their relatives close by.

Maybe they'd fallen out with their family

Maybe they'd fallen out with their family

for some particular reason.

for some particular reason.

Pretty much the same as myself.

Pretty much the same as myself.

Pretty much the same as myself.

- I think we'll all find that we would actually notice

- I think we'll all find that we would actually notice

clusters--when I say clusters, we would notice

clusters--when I say clusters, we would notice

clusters--when I say clusters, we would notice

that in one particular area,

that in one particular area,

there are more people going missing

there are more people going missing

than other areas, and could point the finger

than other areas, and could point the finger

at something not quite right there.

at something not quite right there.

at something not quite right there.

- NARRATOR: Over a 20-year span, the Wests torture, murder,

- NARRATOR: Over a 20-year span, the Wests torture, murder,

- NARRATOR: Over a 20-year span, the Wests torture, murder,

and bury nine young women at the Cromwell Street home,

and bury nine young women at the Cromwell Street home,

and bury nine young women at the Cromwell Street home,

including their own daughter.

including their own daughter.

It seems astonishing now that they managed to do it

It seems astonishing now that they managed to do it

without anyone noticing.

without anyone noticing.

- No child protection service in the United Kingdom,

- No child protection service in the United Kingdom,

- No child protection service in the United Kingdom,

- No child protection service in the United Kingdom,

in the then state of knowledge

in the then state of knowledge

and the procedures which then applied,

and the procedures which then applied,

could have anticipated or avoided

could have anticipated or avoided

this terrible set of tragedies.

this terrible set of tragedies.

- These two went to extraordinary lengths

- These two went to extraordinary lengths

to prevent detection,

to prevent detection,

and I think we need to keep that in mind

and I think we need to keep that in mind

and not look and try to second-guess people

and not look and try to second-guess people

who were perhaps doing the best they could

who were perhaps doing the best they could

in difficult circumstances in the--in the past.

in difficult circumstances in the--in the past.

- NARRATOR: Apparently, police missed a valuable clue

- NARRATOR: Apparently, police missed a valuable clue

when a video store owner reported Fred peddling

when a video store owner reported Fred peddling

deviant sex tapes.

deviant sex tapes.

- WOMAN: He said he actually made them in his house,

- WOMAN: He said he actually made them in his house,

and he said he'd done some involving his daughters.

and he said he'd done some involving his daughters.

and he said he'd done some involving his daughters.

They were sex videos, and lesbian romps

They were sex videos, and lesbian romps

and different things like that.

and different things like that.

and different things like that.

And then he got into a conversation,

And then he got into a conversation,

"I know what a snuff movie is.

The actual real snuff movies, where they've actually done it."

The actual real snuff movies, where they've actually done it."

The actual real snuff movies, where they've actually done it."

And I couldn't understand how a man could talk to somebody

And I couldn't understand how a man could talk to somebody

And I couldn't understand how a man could talk to somebody

about things like that, so, when I got home,

about things like that, so, when I got home,

we talked it over and I phoned the police the next morning,

we talked it over and I phoned the police the next morning,

we talked it over and I phoned the police the next morning,

and gave them the name and the address,

and gave them the name and the address,

and he said it would be investigated.

and he said it would be investigated.

and he said it would be investigated.

- NARRATOR: Heather, the Wests' second oldest daughter,

- NARRATOR: Heather, the Wests' second oldest daughter,

was about to become the last known victim in 1987.

was about to become the last known victim in 1987.

was about to become the last known victim in 1987.

Liz Agius could've been next on the list.

Liz Agius could've been next on the list.

Liz Agius could've been next on the list.

- LIZ: I look at it that I'm one of the lucky people

- LIZ: I look at it that I'm one of the lucky people

to be alive today, and because--

to be alive today, and because--

to be alive today, and because--

when I think about it, I think, um...

when I think about it, I think, um...

when I think about it, I think, um...

were they trying to find out if I was gonna be

were they trying to find out if I was gonna be

were they trying to find out if I was gonna be

one of the people--

one of the people--

that if they picked on me, would I be missed?

that if they picked on me, would I be missed?

- NARRATOR: Finally, in 1994 the couple is caught.

- NARRATOR: Finally, in 1994 the couple is caught.

- NARRATOR: Finally, in 1994 the couple is caught.

But Rosemary denies any involvement.

But Rosemary denies any involvement.

- She was devastated,

- She was devastated,

quite clearly distressed, um, and...shocked.

quite clearly distressed, um, and...shocked.

quite clearly distressed, um, and...shocked.

quite clearly distressed, um, and...shocked.

- MALE REPORTER: She denies she knew anything

- MALE REPORTER: She denies she knew anything

about the bodies, is that correct?

about the bodies, is that correct?

- Yes, she does.

- Yes, she does.

- REPORTER: What does she say about knowing about

- REPORTER: What does she say about knowing about

the killings at all? She totally denies that?

the killings at all? She totally denies that?

- Yes, she does.

- I find it very hard to believe that she lived

- I find it very hard to believe that she lived

- I find it very hard to believe that she lived

in that house and didn't know what was going on.

in that house and didn't know what was going on.

in that house and didn't know what was going on.

- NARRATOR: In the face of the evidence,

- NARRATOR: In the face of the evidence,

Rosemary is sentenced to ten life sentences.

Rosemary is sentenced to ten life sentences.

One for each victim killed, including Charmaine.

One for each victim killed, including Charmaine.

One for each victim killed, including Charmaine.

- This morning, Rosemary West was charged

- This morning, Rosemary West was charged

with the murder of Charmaine West

with the murder of Charmaine West

with the murder of Charmaine West

between the 1st of May, 1971,

between the 1st of May, 1971,

between the 1st of May, 1971,

and the 31st of December, 1971.

and the 31st of December, 1971.

- NARRATOR: By the end, it appears that the relationship

- NARRATOR: By the end, it appears that the relationship

between this killer couple has changed.

between this killer couple has changed.

between this killer couple has changed.

- CAROLINE: I would've said Rose was the more dominant.

- CAROLINE: I would've said Rose was the more dominant.

It was obvious that he was very, very much

It was obvious that he was very, very much

in love with her, he loved her.

in love with her, he loved her.

The way things were, he would've done

The way things were, he would've done

everything and anything for her.

everything and anything for her.

- Rose had changed then, I mean,

- Rose had changed then, I mean,

she'd gotten more... domineering and she'd got--

she'd gotten more... domineering and she'd got--

she'd gotten more... domineering and she'd got--

- Secretive, innit? - No, no. Secretive and...

- Secretive, innit? - No, no. Secretive and...

- Secretive, innit? - No, no. Secretive and...

what she said went, and that was it.

what she said went, and that was it.

what she said went, and that was it.

- NARRATOR: On January 1st, 1995,

- NARRATOR: On January 1st, 1995,

Fred West commits suicide,

Fred West commits suicide,

rather than face the same sentence as his wife.

rather than face the same sentence as his wife.

rather than face the same sentence as his wife.

He strangles himself in his prison cell.

He strangles himself in his prison cell.

He strangles himself in his prison cell.

Today, researchers are hoping that tools

Today, researchers are hoping that tools

like the serial killer database

like the serial killer database

may eventually help reduce the frequency of serial killers.

may eventually help reduce the frequency of serial killers.

may eventually help reduce the frequency of serial killers.

- TERRY: If we can identity these variables,

- TERRY: If we can identity these variables,

- TERRY: If we can identity these variables,

we can identify these killers at early ages

we can identify these killers at early ages

if we see these behaviors

if we see these behaviors

and take remedial action immediately,

and take remedial action immediately,

by which to preempt any further activity in the future.

by which to preempt any further activity in the future.

- NARRATOR: The hope is to never have monsters

- NARRATOR: The hope is to never have monsters

like Fred and Rosemary West at large in the world.

like Fred and Rosemary West at large in the world.

- I punish myself every day for it,

- I punish myself every day for it,

- I punish myself every day for it,

for not asking enough questions, for not--

for not asking enough questions, for not--

for just not finding out more,

for just not finding out more,

and maybe stopping it before it happened.

and maybe stopping it before it happened.

and maybe stopping it before it happened.

I can't forgive, because Rosemary knew

I can't forgive, because Rosemary knew

right from wrong.

right from wrong.

I'm her brother, but I can't possibly forgive

I'm her brother, but I can't possibly forgive

anyone for cruelties to children,

anyone for cruelties to children,

anyone for cruelties to children,

let alone murders.