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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,375 --> 00:00:07,573 - As we mentioned Donald Trump today 2 00:00:07,573 --> 00:00:09,177 called for more and more military spending. 3 00:00:09,177 --> 00:00:11,666 More troops, more ships, more submarines, more planes. 4 00:00:11,666 --> 00:00:12,862 Didn't say how big the increase 5 00:00:12,862 --> 00:00:14,146 in military spending would be, 6 00:00:14,146 --> 00:00:15,506 but he did throw out a lot of numbers 7 00:00:15,506 --> 00:00:17,287 in justifying the increase. 8 00:00:17,287 --> 00:00:21,454 - And look at this, almost 600 billion in spending there, 9 00:00:22,548 --> 00:00:23,790 almost as much as all the other 10 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:27,010 nine of the top 10 combined Anderson. 11 00:00:27,010 --> 00:00:31,972 - The Pentagon has secured a 630 billion dollar budget 12 00:00:31,972 --> 00:00:34,553 for next year, even though it's failed to even account 13 00:00:34,553 --> 00:00:37,982 for the money it's received since 1996, 14 00:00:37,982 --> 00:00:41,752 A daunting 6.5 trillion dollars of taxpayer cash 15 00:00:41,752 --> 00:00:43,651 have gone to defense programs, 16 00:00:43,651 --> 00:00:47,736 none of which has been audited and this black budget 17 00:00:47,736 --> 00:00:51,677 has sparked concerns over political fraud. 18 00:00:51,677 --> 00:00:53,955 - The Reuters investigation says since 1996 19 00:00:53,955 --> 00:00:58,296 the Pentagon has spent 8.5 trillion dollars 20 00:00:58,296 --> 00:01:01,837 in taxpayer money that has never been accounted for. 21 00:01:01,837 --> 00:01:04,259 - One thing I found very interesting in this report 22 00:01:04,259 --> 00:01:05,960 is that the Pentagon apparently uses 23 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:09,747 standard operating procedure to enter false numbers 24 00:01:09,747 --> 00:01:13,048 or so-called plugs to cover lost or missing information 25 00:01:13,048 --> 00:01:15,009 in their accounting in order to submit 26 00:01:15,009 --> 00:01:17,069 a balanced budget to the treasury. 27 00:01:17,069 --> 00:01:18,147 So they can write in everything. 28 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:20,627 - I mean that's probably the most shocking part of this 29 00:01:20,627 --> 00:01:22,168 is that they get to the end of the day 30 00:01:22,168 --> 00:01:24,466 and they say oh there's money missing, what do we do? 31 00:01:24,466 --> 00:01:25,593 Well we'll just put a number in there 32 00:01:25,593 --> 00:01:28,189 that says it's there and we'll sort it out later. 33 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:30,645 I mean again, this is the type of operating practice 34 00:01:30,645 --> 00:01:32,793 that if you did it in your own business, 35 00:01:32,793 --> 00:01:35,048 if you tried to do it with your own taxes for the government 36 00:01:35,048 --> 00:01:37,381 they'd haul you off to jail. 37 00:01:38,248 --> 00:01:39,264 - [Narrator] What is the Pentagon's 38 00:01:39,264 --> 00:01:41,628 black budget being used for? 39 00:01:41,628 --> 00:01:43,848 Weapons, defense? 40 00:01:43,848 --> 00:01:45,229 This is the story of one 41 00:01:45,229 --> 00:01:48,589 military family's extraordinary claims. 42 00:01:48,589 --> 00:01:52,707 Claims that could be found true in a hidden reality. 43 00:01:52,707 --> 00:01:54,067 - [Narrator] I'm Phil Schneider. 44 00:01:54,067 --> 00:01:57,567 I spent 17 years in black budget programs. 45 00:01:58,511 --> 00:02:01,128 I'm a government geologist, I was an engineer, 46 00:02:01,128 --> 00:02:05,091 structural engineer with aerospace applications. 47 00:02:05,091 --> 00:02:07,385 Self-taught metallurgist. 48 00:02:07,385 --> 00:02:10,069 In working with the black projects, 49 00:02:10,069 --> 00:02:13,069 I was involved in something very controversial, 50 00:02:13,069 --> 00:02:15,646 almost totally unbelievable to most of you, 51 00:02:15,646 --> 00:02:19,272 but I was involved in building another base 52 00:02:19,272 --> 00:02:23,309 inside of Dulce, New Mexico which is Los Alamos Laboratory. 53 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:25,907 In the southwest part of the Archuleta Mesa. 54 00:02:25,907 --> 00:02:27,549 We were in the process of the early stages 55 00:02:27,549 --> 00:02:31,481 of building, we drilled four large tunnel-like holes. 56 00:02:31,481 --> 00:02:34,809 Some of them ran 2 1/2 miles under the surface. 57 00:02:34,809 --> 00:02:37,526 Anyway after we drilled all four holes, 58 00:02:37,526 --> 00:02:39,688 took about two days to drill all four of them, 59 00:02:39,688 --> 00:02:41,709 and when you build an underground base, 60 00:02:41,709 --> 00:02:44,545 you drill four basic holes and you build 61 00:02:44,545 --> 00:02:47,345 called stokes or cross member holds across 62 00:02:47,345 --> 00:02:49,505 and then you use blasting equipment. 63 00:02:49,505 --> 00:02:51,707 Yeah you literally blast out or tunnel out 64 00:02:51,707 --> 00:02:54,290 or deflagrate or melt rock out. 65 00:02:55,265 --> 00:02:56,545 The equipment kept coming up broken. 66 00:02:56,545 --> 00:02:59,788 So we wanted to send somebody down there, 67 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:03,089 a human observer or human observers in this case 68 00:03:03,089 --> 00:03:06,028 and find out what was going on. 69 00:03:06,028 --> 00:03:08,449 When I saw Green Beret and Black Beret people 70 00:03:08,449 --> 00:03:11,926 in camp, inside of our geologist camp 71 00:03:11,926 --> 00:03:14,305 I knew something was up, the gig was up. 72 00:03:14,305 --> 00:03:16,886 In this process, I was lowered down the basket 73 00:03:16,886 --> 00:03:19,883 of one of these holes and about from me 74 00:03:19,883 --> 00:03:22,843 to this elderly woman here in the front, 75 00:03:22,843 --> 00:03:26,443 was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray, 76 00:03:26,443 --> 00:03:29,462 the stench was worse than the worst garbage can 77 00:03:29,462 --> 00:03:31,142 you can imagine. 78 00:03:31,142 --> 00:03:32,785 I didn't waste any time, I reached for my pistol. 79 00:03:32,785 --> 00:03:34,248 At that time I was an engineer. 80 00:03:34,248 --> 00:03:35,745 I didn't have time to carry all the full 81 00:03:35,745 --> 00:03:37,969 or one of these big submachine guns 82 00:03:37,969 --> 00:03:39,462 at all the seize and the yellow fruit 83 00:03:39,462 --> 00:03:41,041 on the outer perimeter and inner perimeter 84 00:03:41,041 --> 00:03:42,497 security people carried. 85 00:03:42,497 --> 00:03:45,500 I carried an old Walther PBK pistol with a nine shot clip. 86 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:48,512 Plus you're in almost like a spacesuit environment 87 00:03:48,512 --> 00:03:50,256 and you're reaching for a gun, 88 00:03:50,256 --> 00:03:52,315 it's not the easiest thing to do 89 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:55,316 and then to pop a clip in it 90 00:03:55,316 --> 00:03:57,557 and start shooting. 91 00:03:57,557 --> 00:03:59,750 And I killed two of them. 92 00:03:59,750 --> 00:04:03,355 Yes they're mortal and they do die. 93 00:04:03,355 --> 00:04:06,779 However, in the process, one of them did this. 94 00:04:06,779 --> 00:04:09,701 All I remember is that he just kind of waved his hand 95 00:04:09,701 --> 00:04:12,960 in front of his chest and the next thing I know 96 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,638 this blue beam hit me and just 97 00:04:14,638 --> 00:04:16,877 literally opened me up like a fish. 98 00:04:16,877 --> 00:04:18,683 It was some form of electrical force 99 00:04:18,683 --> 00:04:22,599 because kind of like being hit by lightning bolt, 100 00:04:22,599 --> 00:04:24,539 burned all my toenails off of me 101 00:04:24,539 --> 00:04:27,899 and there was a Green Beret that was right behind me, 102 00:04:27,899 --> 00:04:30,239 but he risked his life, he shoved me back in the basket 103 00:04:30,239 --> 00:04:33,499 and hit the button and took me up. 104 00:04:33,499 --> 00:04:35,563 And I wouldn't be alive talking to you today 105 00:04:35,563 --> 00:04:38,821 if it wasn't for him, so I'm forever indebted. 106 00:04:38,821 --> 00:04:40,501 He lost his life. 107 00:04:40,501 --> 00:04:44,668 66 secret service agents, Green Berets, Black Berets, 108 00:04:45,963 --> 00:04:49,323 crack troops lost their lives because the government, 109 00:04:49,323 --> 00:04:52,156 our United States government lied, 110 00:04:53,899 --> 00:04:57,899 did not tell us anything about the alien threat. 111 00:04:59,563 --> 00:05:03,730 There's a war underneath there and I'm talking dead serious. 112 00:05:04,821 --> 00:05:07,488 (ominous music) 113 00:05:22,113 --> 00:05:24,833 The large alien grays had been in camp there 114 00:05:24,833 --> 00:05:29,000 for as best as believed possible about four or 500 years. 115 00:05:31,052 --> 00:05:33,175 It had been one of their internal bases, 116 00:05:33,175 --> 00:05:36,551 and we drilled holes right on top of it. 117 00:05:36,551 --> 00:05:38,829 All the stink and air, all the black, sooty air 118 00:05:38,829 --> 00:05:41,451 came right out as soon as the first hole was sunk 119 00:05:41,451 --> 00:05:44,295 and all this soot came up and well, 120 00:05:44,295 --> 00:05:46,573 that's when all the hell broke loose really. 121 00:05:46,573 --> 00:05:47,863 How it started. 122 00:05:47,863 --> 00:05:49,699 I have a picture of one of the aliens 123 00:05:49,699 --> 00:05:53,324 been working for the United States Pentagon 124 00:05:53,324 --> 00:05:55,244 for the last 58 years. 125 00:05:55,244 --> 00:05:58,700 His name is Val, Val Valiant Thor. 126 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,033 He's right here. 127 00:06:01,127 --> 00:06:02,780 There's my father in the background. 128 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,441 This whole place, the ready room of the USS Eldridge, 129 00:06:05,441 --> 00:06:07,804 Al Bilika has probably explained 130 00:06:07,804 --> 00:06:09,775 or maybe even shown you this picture 131 00:06:09,775 --> 00:06:12,015 and it's a list of the, some of the notable people in it 132 00:06:12,015 --> 00:06:15,055 and they're all the atomic bomb scientists of the day. 133 00:06:15,055 --> 00:06:19,738 All the time variant experimentalists of the day, 134 00:06:19,738 --> 00:06:23,674 all the top physicists of that particular day. 135 00:06:23,674 --> 00:06:25,924 This was in August of 1943. 136 00:06:27,351 --> 00:06:28,356 - [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave 137 00:06:28,356 --> 00:06:30,789 most of his lectures in 1995. 138 00:06:30,789 --> 00:06:33,338 He gained a following speaking around the United States, 139 00:06:33,338 --> 00:06:36,415 telling people about his alleged experiences. 140 00:06:36,415 --> 00:06:38,095 Phil claimed that he personally knew people 141 00:06:38,095 --> 00:06:40,394 who also worked in black budget programs 142 00:06:40,394 --> 00:06:42,938 who were murdered, and that most of them 143 00:06:42,938 --> 00:06:45,555 were made to look like a suicide. 144 00:06:45,555 --> 00:06:47,354 - 11 of my best friends in the 145 00:06:47,354 --> 00:06:50,104 last 22 years have been murdered. 146 00:06:51,236 --> 00:06:54,356 Eight of them called suicides. 147 00:06:54,356 --> 00:06:57,295 I finally got wind of one of them. 148 00:06:57,295 --> 00:06:59,978 Portland Police is now involved in one of them. 149 00:06:59,978 --> 00:07:03,343 Murder by suicide they call it. 150 00:07:03,343 --> 00:07:06,794 - [Narrator] On August 6, 1993 two years before his lectures 151 00:07:06,794 --> 00:07:09,351 one of Phil's best friends, Ron Rummel 152 00:07:09,351 --> 00:07:13,114 was found dead in St. Macleay Park in Oregon. 153 00:07:13,114 --> 00:07:15,396 He had suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head 154 00:07:15,396 --> 00:07:17,992 and a gun was found nearby. 155 00:07:17,992 --> 00:07:21,178 Police ruled it as suicide, but Phil and many others 156 00:07:21,178 --> 00:07:24,458 strongly believed that he was murdered. 157 00:07:24,458 --> 00:07:27,992 Ron Rummel was best known for publishing The Alien Digest, 158 00:07:27,992 --> 00:07:30,434 a newsletter filled with stories and testimonies 159 00:07:30,434 --> 00:07:32,954 regarding the UFO coverup. 160 00:07:32,954 --> 00:07:36,154 - Author Ron Rummel was about to publish a book 161 00:07:36,154 --> 00:07:38,630 revealing what he believed to be the real purpose 162 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:41,693 of the Star Wars project when his body was found 163 00:07:41,693 --> 00:07:44,298 here in Macleay Park in Portland, Oregon. 164 00:07:44,298 --> 00:07:46,095 His death was ruled suicide, 165 00:07:46,095 --> 00:07:48,234 but few agree with that verdict. 166 00:07:48,234 --> 00:07:49,396 - As far as the police and the FBI 167 00:07:49,396 --> 00:07:51,396 are concerned it's case closed. 168 00:07:51,396 --> 00:07:54,389 Unfortunately there's the shocking thing 169 00:07:54,389 --> 00:07:57,215 that his murderer, I believe his murderer 170 00:07:57,215 --> 00:07:59,455 is still out there at large. 171 00:07:59,455 --> 00:08:01,018 - Why is it you're speaking out? 172 00:08:01,018 --> 00:08:03,236 - There have been enough lives taken 173 00:08:03,236 --> 00:08:06,676 under the premise of suicide when they were 174 00:08:06,676 --> 00:08:08,938 actually very stable individuals, 175 00:08:08,938 --> 00:08:11,594 always had, they had families 176 00:08:11,594 --> 00:08:14,515 and they had lives to look forward to 177 00:08:14,515 --> 00:08:16,278 and they had every reason to live 178 00:08:16,278 --> 00:08:19,055 and if there is some form of conspiracy out there 179 00:08:19,055 --> 00:08:21,178 then the more people that are talking, 180 00:08:21,178 --> 00:08:24,678 might end up saving lives in the long run. 181 00:08:26,895 --> 00:08:29,952 My friend Ronald Lee Rummel was an Air Force officer, 182 00:08:29,952 --> 00:08:32,676 he was a silver star winner. 183 00:08:32,676 --> 00:08:36,632 There's a good chance that when I fly back to Reno, 184 00:08:36,632 --> 00:08:40,049 excuse me, to Vegas I have to drive home. 185 00:08:40,913 --> 00:08:42,111 I left my car down in Vegas. 186 00:08:42,111 --> 00:08:43,375 I have to drive home alone. 187 00:08:43,375 --> 00:08:44,958 I'm scared to hell. 188 00:08:46,276 --> 00:08:48,815 - [Narrator] On January 17, 1996 189 00:08:48,815 --> 00:08:52,314 after not being seen for at least five days, 190 00:08:52,314 --> 00:08:55,215 Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment 191 00:08:55,215 --> 00:08:56,998 by his landlord and a detective 192 00:08:56,998 --> 00:08:59,556 from the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office. 193 00:08:59,556 --> 00:09:02,938 The autopsy report listed the cause of death as unknown, 194 00:09:02,938 --> 00:09:05,672 but it was later discovered that Phil 195 00:09:05,672 --> 00:09:09,255 was actually strangled by his own catheter hose. 196 00:09:09,255 --> 00:09:12,698 Was this a case of negligence, or a coverup? 197 00:09:12,698 --> 00:09:15,359 - I, there's a number of you ladies present 198 00:09:15,359 --> 00:09:17,029 so I won't gore you out 199 00:09:17,029 --> 00:09:19,754 but Al has seen some of the wounds 200 00:09:19,754 --> 00:09:21,135 and there's a few other people 201 00:09:21,135 --> 00:09:23,194 that have been to a few of my other lectures 202 00:09:23,194 --> 00:09:26,836 and they can attest that I have been shot. 203 00:09:26,836 --> 00:09:28,954 I've been run off the road. 204 00:09:28,954 --> 00:09:32,126 I've been pushed off the road. 205 00:09:32,126 --> 00:09:34,507 - [Narrator] This is an account of Phil's death, 206 00:09:34,507 --> 00:09:38,046 a case that reeks of suspicion, neglect of duty, 207 00:09:38,046 --> 00:09:40,167 and disregard for human dignity. 208 00:09:40,167 --> 00:09:41,547 The first official police report 209 00:09:41,547 --> 00:09:45,136 defines Phil's cause of death to be from natural causes. 210 00:09:45,136 --> 00:09:49,303 On January 16, 1996, deputy officer McLeland is alerted 211 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:53,131 by a suspicious apartment manager 212 00:09:53,131 --> 00:09:56,608 that he has not seen Phil for weeks. 213 00:09:56,608 --> 00:09:59,808 Upon first investigation when entering Phil's apartment, 214 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:03,248 officer McLeland finds Phil's body beside his bed, 215 00:10:03,248 --> 00:10:07,109 with his face lying in the seat of his own wheelchair. 216 00:10:07,109 --> 00:10:09,527 Medical and forensic examiner Mr. Coleman 217 00:10:09,527 --> 00:10:12,512 chooses not to respond to the crime scene. 218 00:10:12,512 --> 00:10:15,990 At this point, Phil had been dead for three to four days. 219 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:20,347 January 17, his body is then whisked away to a funeral home. 220 00:10:20,347 --> 00:10:23,563 January 18, Mr. Took calls from the funeral home 221 00:10:23,563 --> 00:10:26,342 to alert the police that he has found a catheter cord 222 00:10:26,342 --> 00:10:28,310 wrapped around Phil's neck. 223 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:29,531 This leads to the starting 224 00:10:29,531 --> 00:10:33,008 of detective Haggin's investigation on the same day. 225 00:10:33,008 --> 00:10:35,350 Haggen seems to be the only one interested 226 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:37,787 in following up this case honestly. 227 00:10:37,787 --> 00:10:39,547 He calls medical examiner Coleman 228 00:10:39,547 --> 00:10:43,447 and segeant Joyce who both elect not to respond. 229 00:10:43,447 --> 00:10:44,747 Upon further investigation, 230 00:10:44,747 --> 00:10:46,987 while interrogating deputy McLeland, 231 00:10:46,987 --> 00:10:49,008 the deputy recalls the catheter cord 232 00:10:49,008 --> 00:10:51,910 being near Phil's neck at the scene of the crime. 233 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:53,168 It is concluded in this report 234 00:10:53,168 --> 00:10:55,168 that the only person who could have 235 00:10:55,168 --> 00:10:57,366 been around Phil at this time was a woman 236 00:10:57,366 --> 00:11:00,107 from the Oregon Senior and Disabled Services. 237 00:11:00,107 --> 00:11:02,907 Other things recovered from the scene of the investigation 238 00:11:02,907 --> 00:11:04,811 were seven pill medications. 239 00:11:04,811 --> 00:11:08,048 Detectives Harris and Kennell are then assigned to the case. 240 00:11:08,048 --> 00:11:12,011 An autopsy is to be held by Dr. Gunson on January 19. 241 00:11:12,011 --> 00:11:15,030 This was requested as well by Cynthia, Phil's late wife. 242 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:16,507 The autopsy report surmises Phil's 243 00:11:16,507 --> 00:11:20,343 cause of death by asphyxiation ruled a suicide. 244 00:11:20,343 --> 00:11:23,499 Recovered stomach material showed no signs of pills. 245 00:11:23,499 --> 00:11:26,128 Furthermore, blood and urine are placed 246 00:11:26,128 --> 00:11:29,830 on a three month hold, only to be reported as lost 247 00:11:29,830 --> 00:11:34,025 when Cynthia calls after the given time has passed. 248 00:11:34,025 --> 00:11:35,291 The catheter cord is described 249 00:11:35,291 --> 00:11:37,750 as being wrapped around the neck once 250 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:40,390 and then tied from the front, very tight. 251 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:42,870 Now, you must ask yourself how can Phil 252 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:45,328 be found dead via strangulation 253 00:11:45,328 --> 00:11:48,408 with his face in the seat of his own wheelchair? 254 00:11:48,408 --> 00:11:51,267 Is this something that he could do himself 255 00:11:51,267 --> 00:11:54,176 without taking any form of medical assistance 256 00:11:54,176 --> 00:11:55,990 in order to sedate? 257 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:57,409 What do we have here? 258 00:11:57,409 --> 00:12:00,187 Is this a clean cut case of suicide? 259 00:12:00,187 --> 00:12:03,394 Or could there likely be foul play? 260 00:12:03,394 --> 00:12:07,629 Could this be a case of murder by suicide? 261 00:12:07,629 --> 00:12:11,796 This case was determined on January 19 as death by suicide 262 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:17,672 which is further indicated on his death certificate. 263 00:12:17,672 --> 00:12:22,509 But something of even more suspicion appears in this case. 264 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:25,768 In the Oregonian obituaries, a statement is given 265 00:12:25,768 --> 00:12:29,351 not by Cynthia, that he died from a stroke. 266 00:12:33,229 --> 00:12:35,368 - [Man] So what happened here? 267 00:12:35,368 --> 00:12:39,170 - Trying to get some samples of Phil, my dad 268 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:40,087 and my mom. 269 00:12:42,028 --> 00:12:46,403 They were suddenly missing, mysteriously missing. 270 00:12:46,403 --> 00:12:48,786 - [Lee] And did, what did they say? 271 00:12:48,786 --> 00:12:50,450 They were just as surprised as you were? 272 00:12:50,450 --> 00:12:53,779 - [Marie] Yeah, oh we don't have those samples. 273 00:12:53,779 --> 00:12:55,803 - [Lee] It's like they never did or they just 274 00:12:55,803 --> 00:12:56,969 or just didn't even know. 275 00:12:56,969 --> 00:12:59,588 - They said we'll hold them for a year. 276 00:12:59,588 --> 00:13:04,326 Mom came back, 11 months before the due date, you know. 277 00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:06,846 Or you know there's one month until the, 278 00:13:06,846 --> 00:13:08,886 they would not hold them anymore. 279 00:13:08,886 --> 00:13:12,208 And they suddenly didn't have 'em anymore. 280 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:13,041 Yeah. 281 00:13:13,909 --> 00:13:15,405 - Let's get right down to it. 282 00:13:15,405 --> 00:13:17,645 When you're dealing with something of the magnitude 283 00:13:17,645 --> 00:13:20,928 what it appears to be, that is the presence of 284 00:13:20,928 --> 00:13:23,952 a variety of non-humans here on Earth 285 00:13:23,952 --> 00:13:26,672 that are here for some sort of agenda 286 00:13:26,672 --> 00:13:29,611 and everything else that goes along with that 287 00:13:29,611 --> 00:13:31,813 including possible collaboration 288 00:13:31,813 --> 00:13:33,809 by various human groups but then 289 00:13:33,809 --> 00:13:38,133 this is obviously incredibly explosive material 290 00:13:38,133 --> 00:13:40,550 and so it goes without saying 291 00:13:41,856 --> 00:13:45,873 that the intelligence agencies, the deep black agencies, 292 00:13:45,873 --> 00:13:49,077 black ops groups that are involved in this 293 00:13:49,077 --> 00:13:52,827 would need to keep this as quiet as possible. 294 00:13:53,894 --> 00:13:57,052 They would have to, for their own preservation. 295 00:13:57,052 --> 00:14:01,219 So in other words secret becomes the ultimate goal for this 296 00:14:02,536 --> 00:14:06,703 and that means secrecy in theory forever, forever. 297 00:14:08,299 --> 00:14:09,653 Secrecy forever. 298 00:14:09,653 --> 00:14:12,551 If there are leaks that are going to come out about this, 299 00:14:12,551 --> 00:14:15,399 you have to find a way to disable those leaks. 300 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:17,723 Either by disabling the information 301 00:14:17,723 --> 00:14:20,056 or the individual behind it. 302 00:14:21,003 --> 00:14:23,002 Doesn't have to be by killing them. 303 00:14:23,002 --> 00:14:25,520 It could be by ruining their reputation, 304 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,803 by discrediting them in one way or another. 305 00:14:27,803 --> 00:14:29,021 That's just as good. 306 00:14:29,021 --> 00:14:33,188 Certainly one thing that we know in the last 60, 70 years 307 00:14:34,043 --> 00:14:36,581 is that assassination techniques 308 00:14:36,581 --> 00:14:39,563 have become very, very sophisticated. 309 00:14:39,563 --> 00:14:41,146 Very sophisticated. 310 00:14:42,014 --> 00:14:45,077 The art of suiciding someone, 311 00:14:45,077 --> 00:14:48,744 that is killing them making it be a suicide. 312 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:51,774 This is widespread. 313 00:14:51,774 --> 00:14:54,014 It's been widespread for many years. 314 00:14:54,014 --> 00:14:55,572 During the days of the Cold War 315 00:14:55,572 --> 00:14:58,879 the KGB was very good at this. 316 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:02,574 To this day, you're not gonna get the CIA to admit it, 317 00:15:02,574 --> 00:15:05,199 but we know that this happened. 318 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:08,078 It happened in the case of a fellow named 319 00:15:08,078 --> 00:15:10,995 Frank Olson in 19, the early 1950s. 320 00:15:12,697 --> 00:15:14,457 He was a biological warfare expert 321 00:15:14,457 --> 00:15:18,174 who was given LSD without his knowledge 322 00:15:18,174 --> 00:15:19,955 by a CIA friend. 323 00:15:19,955 --> 00:15:22,788 Long story short, he was taken to a large hotel 324 00:15:22,788 --> 00:15:24,553 in New York City, the tenth floor 325 00:15:24,553 --> 00:15:26,457 and was thrown out the window. 326 00:15:26,457 --> 00:15:29,257 Made it seem like a suicide, it was no suicide. 327 00:15:29,257 --> 00:15:31,097 Olson was killed. 328 00:15:31,097 --> 00:15:34,174 Because he'd become a security risk. 329 00:15:34,174 --> 00:15:35,424 This is a game. 330 00:15:36,275 --> 00:15:40,442 So back to our scenario here of multiple non-human groups 331 00:15:41,877 --> 00:15:45,737 with possible human alien interaction going on, 332 00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:47,177 this is a secret that has to be kept 333 00:15:47,177 --> 00:15:48,995 from their point of view. 334 00:15:48,995 --> 00:15:53,577 And anyone who threatens that secrecy has got to be handled 335 00:15:53,577 --> 00:15:56,494 whether by discrediting that person 336 00:15:57,662 --> 00:16:00,745 or failing all else, by killing them. 337 00:16:01,774 --> 00:16:03,897 - [Narrator] Upon examination, it seems easy 338 00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:08,195 to accept the theory that Phil was a victim of homicide 339 00:16:08,195 --> 00:16:09,534 but what does that mean for his claims 340 00:16:09,534 --> 00:16:11,993 of aliens living underground? 341 00:16:11,993 --> 00:16:13,694 Years after Schneider's death, 342 00:16:13,694 --> 00:16:16,873 other claims of a joint human alien base 343 00:16:16,873 --> 00:16:21,028 underneath Dulce, New Mexico are surfacing left and right. 344 00:16:21,028 --> 00:16:24,195 The book UFO Highway by Anthony Sanchez 345 00:16:24,195 --> 00:16:26,195 is essentially transcripts of interviews 346 00:16:26,195 --> 00:16:29,337 with a person only known as colonel X 347 00:16:29,337 --> 00:16:32,254 who supposedly worked inside this facility 348 00:16:32,254 --> 00:16:33,614 and is known to believe that 349 00:16:33,614 --> 00:16:36,953 Phil Schneider was really there. 350 00:16:36,953 --> 00:16:39,273 Shows like History Channel's UFO Hunters 351 00:16:39,273 --> 00:16:42,736 have even visited the area looking for clues. 352 00:16:42,736 --> 00:16:45,095 - It's a 14 mile underground tunnel 353 00:16:45,095 --> 00:16:47,015 that goes under that mountain there. 354 00:16:47,015 --> 00:16:48,015 - [Man] Yes. 355 00:16:48,911 --> 00:16:50,873 - [Narrator] Even Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory 356 00:16:50,873 --> 00:16:52,814 on TruTV paid a visit to the 357 00:16:52,814 --> 00:16:55,731 alleged location of the Dulce base. 358 00:16:58,195 --> 00:16:59,612 - Do they? - Yeah. 359 00:17:00,515 --> 00:17:01,758 - [Narrator] Some other pretty credible sources 360 00:17:01,758 --> 00:17:04,452 for alien activity in the Archuleta Mesa 361 00:17:04,452 --> 00:17:07,598 include the high number of Apache Native Americans 362 00:17:07,598 --> 00:17:09,577 who have some pretty insane stories 363 00:17:09,577 --> 00:17:11,973 of strange happenings in the area. 364 00:17:11,973 --> 00:17:14,035 - Rumor has it there is a secret base 365 00:17:14,035 --> 00:17:16,958 hidden underneath the Archuleta Mesa here. 366 00:17:16,958 --> 00:17:18,638 The mountain overlooks Dulce. 367 00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:21,779 Some people in town say the base is run by aliens 368 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:23,395 working with our federal government 369 00:17:23,395 --> 00:17:26,899 to conduct mind control and genetic experiments. 370 00:17:26,899 --> 00:17:27,896 Do you believe that? 371 00:17:27,896 --> 00:17:29,518 - Yeah. 372 00:17:29,518 --> 00:17:32,137 A whole bunch of people seen it, you know. 373 00:17:32,137 --> 00:17:36,195 - The ground opened up, steam coming out of it. 374 00:17:36,195 --> 00:17:38,238 - [Narrator] Geri Julian says she had her first 375 00:17:38,238 --> 00:17:40,936 extraterrestrial encounter right here, 376 00:17:40,936 --> 00:17:43,552 on her Dulce ranch about 40 years ago. 377 00:17:43,552 --> 00:17:44,835 - It was huge. 378 00:17:44,835 --> 00:17:46,958 I just saw the bottom of it, 379 00:17:46,958 --> 00:17:50,659 you know it was like flat like this. 380 00:17:50,659 --> 00:17:51,699 - [Narrator] Many of her neighbors 381 00:17:51,699 --> 00:17:54,361 claim similar, strange sightings. 382 00:17:54,361 --> 00:17:57,678 - Fat in the middle and kind of like rounded on the sides. 383 00:17:57,678 --> 00:17:59,198 You're speechless you know? 384 00:17:59,198 --> 00:18:01,838 You just don't know what to think. 385 00:18:01,838 --> 00:18:04,217 - [Narrator] Sometime in the seventies, things changed. 386 00:18:04,217 --> 00:18:07,198 That's when cows started turning up mutilated. 387 00:18:07,198 --> 00:18:10,057 - They just cut out in between the legs right here. 388 00:18:10,057 --> 00:18:10,890 We seen one. 389 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:12,322 - I know it's not a predator that's doing it. 390 00:18:12,322 --> 00:18:14,081 There's, someone's doing it. 391 00:18:14,081 --> 00:18:16,196 - [Narrator] Local police never definitively said 392 00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:17,580 who's to blame. 393 00:18:17,580 --> 00:18:21,080 Locals say it has to be something out of this world. 394 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,820 They say they know it sounds crazy. 395 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:28,277 - I'll submit to a lie detector test or anything you know? 396 00:18:28,277 --> 00:18:30,578 - [Narrator] To be fair, at this point we have to also 397 00:18:30,578 --> 00:18:32,322 play devil's advocate with 398 00:18:32,322 --> 00:18:34,738 Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims. 399 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:36,637 It is entirely possible that he simply 400 00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:39,879 heard about the tales of UFOs and underground bases 401 00:18:39,879 --> 00:18:42,258 in the Archuleta Mesa area and made up 402 00:18:42,258 --> 00:18:45,042 his own story based on those stories. 403 00:18:45,042 --> 00:18:46,577 In order to at least make an attempt 404 00:18:46,577 --> 00:18:49,100 at finding out if he was telling the truth or not, 405 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:53,239 we must first know who Phil Schneider was. 406 00:18:53,239 --> 00:18:55,020 - I kind of knew about Phil. 407 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:56,921 Lee and I had met him through the 408 00:18:56,921 --> 00:19:01,201 Oregon Agate and Mineral Society in Portland, Oregon 409 00:19:01,201 --> 00:19:05,442 and I had been a past president of the society. 410 00:19:05,442 --> 00:19:07,275 Had about 500 members. 411 00:19:08,140 --> 00:19:09,719 So you know it was a large group of people 412 00:19:09,719 --> 00:19:12,338 who came together every other week 413 00:19:12,338 --> 00:19:14,671 to study rocks and minerals. 414 00:19:16,258 --> 00:19:17,693 - [Narrator] What year was this? 415 00:19:17,693 --> 00:19:19,660 - [Cynthia] 1985. 416 00:19:19,660 --> 00:19:23,719 Philip grew up in a navy, armed forces family 417 00:19:23,719 --> 00:19:27,602 'cause he was all over places with his dad. 418 00:19:27,602 --> 00:19:29,122 So let's see, while he was young 419 00:19:29,122 --> 00:19:31,500 I think they also went to London. 420 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:34,300 It was in the early fifties, 1950s. 421 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:35,780 So he was in London and I think 422 00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:38,638 that's when Oscar was working in NATO. 423 00:19:38,638 --> 00:19:42,018 He was doing a lot of armed force work in NATO, 424 00:19:42,018 --> 00:19:43,762 but he kind of knew that his dad 425 00:19:43,762 --> 00:19:48,722 was doing a lot of top secret things later on in life. 426 00:19:48,722 --> 00:19:51,842 - I'd like to also mention something about my father. 427 00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:55,842 My father was a U-boat captain in Hitler's navy. 428 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,882 He was captured by the French, 429 00:19:58,882 --> 00:20:01,218 turned over to the third army, the US third army 430 00:20:01,218 --> 00:20:03,657 and then US third army turned him over to the navy 431 00:20:03,657 --> 00:20:06,321 and he was a master machinist. 432 00:20:06,321 --> 00:20:08,279 Now that's not a journeyman, a master means 433 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:10,580 they can take a block of metal and make a gun 434 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:13,842 or a watch or some other fine instrument. 435 00:20:13,842 --> 00:20:16,642 He was a master machinist, he later became an MD doctor 436 00:20:16,642 --> 00:20:19,358 in part of the aerospace medicine group 437 00:20:19,358 --> 00:20:21,282 of the United States Navy. 438 00:20:21,282 --> 00:20:24,562 Was instrumental in helping build the USS Nautilus 439 00:20:24,562 --> 00:20:27,479 and its predecessor the Enterprise, 440 00:20:28,355 --> 00:20:30,332 first nuclear powered aircraft carrier 441 00:20:30,332 --> 00:20:32,332 and other ships like it. 442 00:20:33,213 --> 00:20:35,500 - [Narrator] Phil's father, Oscar Otto Schneider 443 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:39,757 was also involved in government secrecy and black projects. 444 00:20:39,757 --> 00:20:43,218 In the 1990s, during Phil Schneider's lecture tour 445 00:20:43,218 --> 00:20:45,359 across the United States, he was known 446 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,719 to carry many documents and pictures 447 00:20:47,719 --> 00:20:50,300 providing evidence to certain testimony 448 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:53,922 about controversial subjects he would be discussing. 449 00:20:53,922 --> 00:20:56,117 Furthermore there were four documents 450 00:20:56,117 --> 00:20:59,079 which Phil carried with him on lecture tour. 451 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:03,260 These documents were allegedly owned by Oscar Schneider 452 00:21:03,260 --> 00:21:06,780 while he was in office working for the United States Navy 453 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:08,322 in the 1950s. 454 00:21:08,322 --> 00:21:11,762 During this time, the rumored Philadelphia Experiment 455 00:21:11,762 --> 00:21:15,758 took place and perhaps these documents are the smoking gun 456 00:21:15,758 --> 00:21:19,925 that prove in fact the Philadelphia Experiment did occur. 457 00:21:21,778 --> 00:21:24,413 The first document details an autopsy report 458 00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:25,799 on one of the crew members 459 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:28,119 from the Philadelphia Experiment. 460 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,122 - [Woman] One of the letters that Oscar 461 00:21:31,122 --> 00:21:33,138 wrote about the autopsy 462 00:21:33,138 --> 00:21:36,780 of the Philadelphia Experiment crew member, 463 00:21:36,780 --> 00:21:39,997 Items that he was pulling out of the back of their eyes 464 00:21:39,997 --> 00:21:42,918 and their arms and their legs 465 00:21:42,918 --> 00:21:45,340 these little things that looked like transistors. 466 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:46,636 That's exactly what they were. 467 00:21:46,636 --> 00:21:50,076 They were little surveillance items 468 00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:52,199 that were placed into the bodies 469 00:21:52,199 --> 00:21:56,338 of the Philadelphia Experiment crew members. 470 00:21:56,338 --> 00:21:58,018 - [Narrator] In this letter, it is addressed 471 00:21:58,018 --> 00:22:00,460 to lieutenant Nathan F. Twining. 472 00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:02,577 Oscar seems to report on the vessel 473 00:22:02,577 --> 00:22:05,020 which Twining's staff couldn't find. 474 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:08,540 Furthermore, it includes an order from J. Edgar Hoover 475 00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:12,220 to have all personnel undergo psychological testing. 476 00:22:12,220 --> 00:22:15,036 The third letter addresses Edward Condon. 477 00:22:15,036 --> 00:22:17,628 Edward Condon is well known for his involvement 478 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:20,540 explaining away all UFO phenomenon 479 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:22,636 as simply optical illusions. 480 00:22:22,636 --> 00:22:25,596 However in this letter, Oscar seems to be 481 00:22:25,596 --> 00:22:27,559 reporting to Edward that seven 482 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:30,018 Philadelphia Project experiencers 483 00:22:30,018 --> 00:22:32,498 had escaped from a psych ward that Oscar 484 00:22:32,498 --> 00:22:35,036 was holding and testing them at. 485 00:22:35,036 --> 00:22:36,759 He goes on to say that J. Edgar 486 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:39,256 had declared the incident classified as a 487 00:22:39,256 --> 00:22:42,059 1A prime directive, possibly meaning 488 00:22:42,059 --> 00:22:45,399 something in regards to a top secret security clearance, 489 00:22:45,399 --> 00:22:46,860 finishing this letter with a reference 490 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:49,479 to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer. 491 00:22:49,479 --> 00:22:51,436 This is significant because Nikola Tesla 492 00:22:51,436 --> 00:22:53,476 has always been known to be involved 493 00:22:53,476 --> 00:22:56,178 with the design of the machine which would create 494 00:22:56,178 --> 00:23:00,018 the fabled Philadelphia Experiment's invisible technology. 495 00:23:00,018 --> 00:23:02,156 Condon, having been known most notoriously 496 00:23:02,156 --> 00:23:05,238 as the leading UFO debunker of his time 497 00:23:05,238 --> 00:23:08,098 paved the way for secrecy and coverups 498 00:23:08,098 --> 00:23:10,553 in this realm that we study today. 499 00:23:10,553 --> 00:23:14,156 The fourth and final letter Oscar Schneider writes again. 500 00:23:14,156 --> 00:23:16,258 In consideration of the latent facts 501 00:23:16,258 --> 00:23:20,341 considering the fate of the USS Farenseth DE-173, 502 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:23,436 all ships, personnel, and material 503 00:23:23,436 --> 00:23:26,796 must be quarantined absolute until further notice. 504 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:28,598 No exceptions. 505 00:23:28,598 --> 00:23:31,797 An on site naval inspection is ordered forthwith 506 00:23:31,797 --> 00:23:34,556 as bureau of ships reticent requirements 507 00:23:34,556 --> 00:23:36,618 in section 93A. 508 00:23:36,618 --> 00:23:40,119 Please include DE-173's ship's log 509 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,180 to admiral Roscoe Hillenkoult, USN. 510 00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:47,055 Consider them and all events of nature above secret. 511 00:23:47,055 --> 00:23:49,805 See class ARH-9 project Blue Sky. 512 00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:53,799 Oscar Schneider, captain, USN. 513 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:55,618 - [Narrator] At this point it appears that 514 00:23:55,618 --> 00:23:59,399 Phil Schneider's father Oscar was very likely involved 515 00:23:59,399 --> 00:24:01,180 in classified operations 516 00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:04,258 that involved top secret technologies. 517 00:24:04,258 --> 00:24:06,314 But what about his son Phil? 518 00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:09,116 What do we really know about his work? 519 00:24:09,116 --> 00:24:11,500 - [Woman] I would say late sixties, 520 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,667 he started his work and I have social security records 521 00:24:16,978 --> 00:24:20,633 under the wrong social security number 522 00:24:20,633 --> 00:24:22,354 and I think this was how the black ops 523 00:24:22,354 --> 00:24:24,035 get away with a lot of things 524 00:24:24,035 --> 00:24:27,458 is they put you under the wrong social security number 525 00:24:27,458 --> 00:24:31,378 so you can't prove your work history with them. 526 00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,373 But I can prove that under the wrong 527 00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:36,919 social security number he worked for Morrison-Knudsen 528 00:24:36,919 --> 00:24:40,380 which is a contractor, a civilian contractor 529 00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:43,996 that works for the army or the navy. 530 00:24:43,996 --> 00:24:46,540 He did some work at Trojan Nuclear 531 00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:49,580 and after that, by the early 1980s 532 00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:52,396 he was applying for SSI. 533 00:24:52,396 --> 00:24:56,679 So I know by the early 1980s his career is done. 534 00:24:56,679 --> 00:25:00,898 He's so injured that he cannot do any more work 535 00:25:00,898 --> 00:25:03,778 and his memory is like totally lost 536 00:25:03,778 --> 00:25:05,596 as to what he did before. 537 00:25:05,596 --> 00:25:07,580 It wasn't until after we got married 538 00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:09,475 that he got good medical care 539 00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:11,937 and stopped taking the medications 540 00:25:11,937 --> 00:25:14,098 he was taking when I first met him 541 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:16,916 that he started to remember all of the things 542 00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,333 that are now on the internet. 543 00:25:22,716 --> 00:25:24,383 - Hello Marie. - Hi. 544 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:27,525 - Want a Squirt? 545 00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:36,233 - [Woman] Lots of food and soft drinks. 546 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:37,400 - There ya go. 547 00:25:39,593 --> 00:25:42,270 - [Narrator] So tell me when did Phil 548 00:25:42,270 --> 00:25:45,993 start telling you about his past and his work? 549 00:25:45,993 --> 00:25:48,968 - [Woman] It was soon after he kept saying 550 00:25:48,968 --> 00:25:53,550 that he had to take Dilantin to prevent seizures. 551 00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:56,052 But I noticed when he took Dilantin, 552 00:25:56,052 --> 00:25:57,769 he would have a seizure. 553 00:25:57,769 --> 00:25:59,230 It was the other way around. 554 00:25:59,230 --> 00:26:02,153 It was actually killing him and it was disrupting him 555 00:26:02,153 --> 00:26:05,769 emotionally, physically, so much that he 556 00:26:05,769 --> 00:26:08,951 didn't have much of a memory of anything in his past. 557 00:26:08,951 --> 00:26:10,004 And then after we were married 558 00:26:10,004 --> 00:26:12,152 he got really good medical care. 559 00:26:12,152 --> 00:26:14,649 It slowly started to come back. 560 00:26:14,649 --> 00:26:17,284 I mean it was like, he would even say to me 561 00:26:17,284 --> 00:26:19,593 gee I hope you don't think I'm lying 562 00:26:19,593 --> 00:26:21,252 because I'm just remembering this 563 00:26:21,252 --> 00:26:24,793 but wow, you know these things start coming up 564 00:26:24,793 --> 00:26:28,969 and I just suddenly remember what's really happened. 565 00:26:28,969 --> 00:26:30,750 But that's really when it started. 566 00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:34,647 When Oscar died, it might have been '94. 567 00:26:34,647 --> 00:26:37,332 Phil went down into his basement, 568 00:26:37,332 --> 00:26:40,233 and found a file cabinet full of stuff 569 00:26:40,233 --> 00:26:42,793 that was just unbelievable. 570 00:26:42,793 --> 00:26:44,772 And he showed me most of that. 571 00:26:44,772 --> 00:26:47,433 I mean I saw the original envelopes 572 00:26:47,433 --> 00:26:51,892 with the original paperwork that had the drawings on it. 573 00:26:51,892 --> 00:26:53,204 I saw the original photographs 574 00:26:53,204 --> 00:26:56,704 with the stamps on the back from the Navy. 575 00:26:57,609 --> 00:26:59,573 I mean it was all real stuff. 576 00:26:59,573 --> 00:27:01,831 This is not faked. 577 00:27:01,831 --> 00:27:03,454 He shared so much with me, 578 00:27:03,454 --> 00:27:06,070 even though we were divorced at the time. 579 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:09,609 So I saw all this stuff that came out of the file cabinet, 580 00:27:09,609 --> 00:27:13,455 but he'd been talking to Ron about it a lot. 581 00:27:13,455 --> 00:27:18,415 They were doing a little alien magazine, a little digest. 582 00:27:18,415 --> 00:27:19,897 And then his dad died and he found 583 00:27:19,897 --> 00:27:21,700 all this stuff in the basement. 584 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:25,273 Well Ron was murdered that same year, 585 00:27:25,273 --> 00:27:27,956 and that infuriated him. 586 00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,229 As Philip grew up he went to 587 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,396 Lincoln High School here in Portland 588 00:27:33,396 --> 00:27:38,196 'cause I have a transcript of his senior high school, 589 00:27:38,196 --> 00:27:40,633 so that was pretty normal except it does indicate 590 00:27:40,633 --> 00:27:44,300 on that transcript that he had an IQ of 163. 591 00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:50,069 So I know Phil told me that before he had his medical issues 592 00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:53,737 he could speak 11 languages and I believe that 593 00:27:53,737 --> 00:27:57,335 because he was suddenly in the middle of the night 594 00:27:57,335 --> 00:27:58,975 sleeping together he would suddenly 595 00:27:58,975 --> 00:28:02,153 start rattling off different languages, 596 00:28:02,153 --> 00:28:05,193 so this is all though in his sleep. 597 00:28:05,193 --> 00:28:07,556 He consciously couldn't remember 598 00:28:07,556 --> 00:28:09,990 how to speak those languages, 599 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:11,977 but in his sleep unconsciously 600 00:28:11,977 --> 00:28:15,227 he could still connect with some of it. 601 00:28:16,272 --> 00:28:18,356 (woman chuckles) 602 00:28:18,356 --> 00:28:20,773 (TV blaring) 603 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,627 (girl chatters) 604 00:28:41,523 --> 00:28:45,482 - First of all the idea of underground bases 605 00:28:45,482 --> 00:28:47,902 and underground civilizations, 606 00:28:47,902 --> 00:28:52,137 this is actually this is a very old idea in human history 607 00:28:52,137 --> 00:28:55,145 you know going back thousands of years 608 00:28:55,145 --> 00:28:58,761 you've got ancient tribes around the world 609 00:28:58,761 --> 00:29:01,102 that have made these claims. 610 00:29:01,102 --> 00:29:03,076 We would say they were myths, 611 00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:06,462 but that there are secret caverns, 612 00:29:06,462 --> 00:29:08,712 secret races, secret tribes 613 00:29:10,178 --> 00:29:13,118 that exist under the ground 614 00:29:13,118 --> 00:29:14,622 and really when one talks about 615 00:29:14,622 --> 00:29:17,059 for example hollow earth theory, 616 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:19,838 that's a lot of what they're talking about here. 617 00:29:19,838 --> 00:29:22,099 But not all hollow earth theorists 618 00:29:22,099 --> 00:29:24,459 say that the entire Earth is hollow. 619 00:29:24,459 --> 00:29:27,161 A lot of them will say that there are just substantial 620 00:29:27,161 --> 00:29:29,661 caverns under the ground where 621 00:29:31,358 --> 00:29:34,579 there are civilizations that are down there. 622 00:29:34,579 --> 00:29:35,983 So that's an old idea. 623 00:29:35,983 --> 00:29:39,337 You get it in a lot of Asian European 624 00:29:39,337 --> 00:29:41,596 I think like the Germans have the tradition. 625 00:29:41,596 --> 00:29:43,534 You have Native Americans have this tradition. 626 00:29:43,534 --> 00:29:46,592 The Tibetans may have the most extensive 627 00:29:46,592 --> 00:29:49,075 tradition of this for all I know. 628 00:29:49,075 --> 00:29:53,082 On South America traditional tribes had this as well, 629 00:29:53,082 --> 00:29:55,459 so the idea in the Tibetan tradition 630 00:29:55,459 --> 00:29:58,318 from what I have understood about it 631 00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:00,958 is that there are different races 632 00:30:00,958 --> 00:30:03,939 below the surface of the Earth 633 00:30:03,939 --> 00:30:07,635 including reptoid or reptilian races 634 00:30:07,635 --> 00:30:11,219 that are supposedly from other worlds. 635 00:30:11,219 --> 00:30:12,697 I'm not making this up. 636 00:30:12,697 --> 00:30:16,864 So that by itself is interesting and you might ask why 637 00:30:18,094 --> 00:30:22,835 do all of these disparate civilizations have these 638 00:30:22,835 --> 00:30:25,214 kinds of ideas, and I don't have an answer to that. 639 00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:28,755 But I can tell you that's an old, old idea. 640 00:30:28,755 --> 00:30:30,137 - [Narrator] Dolan goes on to explain 641 00:30:30,137 --> 00:30:33,371 the supposed connection between the Nazis 642 00:30:33,371 --> 00:30:36,613 and Tibetan hollow earth theories. 643 00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:38,654 - What you really get into the 20th Century 644 00:30:38,654 --> 00:30:41,487 where Nazis and their predecessors 645 00:30:42,651 --> 00:30:44,894 let's just call them the Thule Society 646 00:30:44,894 --> 00:30:48,571 which was a kind of a mystical sect 647 00:30:48,571 --> 00:30:52,057 that the Nazis really drew a lot out of 648 00:30:52,057 --> 00:30:54,557 in forming their own ideology. 649 00:30:55,417 --> 00:30:58,657 The Thule Society was very interested 650 00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:02,259 in Tibetan myths about openings into the earth. 651 00:31:02,259 --> 00:31:05,426 This idea of deep underground tunnels, 652 00:31:06,819 --> 00:31:09,402 bases, crisscrossing the world. 653 00:31:11,139 --> 00:31:13,972 And since this was a Tibetan idea, 654 00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:19,379 we have to presume that the Nazis themselves 655 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:22,431 were familiar with this idea as well. 656 00:31:22,431 --> 00:31:24,014 - [Narrator] There's no question that the secret 657 00:31:24,014 --> 00:31:28,491 underground bases do exist, and by the way it's not only 658 00:31:28,491 --> 00:31:30,857 the military of the United States 659 00:31:30,857 --> 00:31:33,155 or other countries you know who are making 660 00:31:33,155 --> 00:31:36,857 these underground and also undersea facilities. 661 00:31:36,857 --> 00:31:40,014 Other agencies and organizations do it as well. 662 00:31:40,014 --> 00:31:42,654 All that is needed is the requisite will, 663 00:31:42,654 --> 00:31:46,313 funding, expert personnel, and technology. 664 00:31:46,313 --> 00:31:49,113 In the early to mid 20th Century, 665 00:31:49,113 --> 00:31:51,874 you had the French of course who constructed 666 00:31:51,874 --> 00:31:54,707 the Maginot Line in eastern France 667 00:31:55,815 --> 00:31:59,592 to guard against German invasion in World War II. 668 00:31:59,592 --> 00:32:04,153 There was a military civil engineering organization 669 00:32:04,153 --> 00:32:08,035 in the Third Reich called the Todt Organization. 670 00:32:08,035 --> 00:32:10,574 And it was named after Fritz Todt. 671 00:32:10,574 --> 00:32:13,653 Fritz Todt was a brilliant civil engineer. 672 00:32:13,653 --> 00:32:17,155 He was the father of the German Autobahn system. 673 00:32:17,155 --> 00:32:19,097 During the World War II period, 674 00:32:19,097 --> 00:32:22,297 Adolf Hitler asked Fritz Todt to lend his 675 00:32:22,297 --> 00:32:24,275 engineering expertise to the 676 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:28,435 military program of the Third Reich, which he did. 677 00:32:28,435 --> 00:32:31,497 He established an engineering agency 678 00:32:31,497 --> 00:32:34,195 which was called the Todt Organization. 679 00:32:34,195 --> 00:32:37,945 Now Fritz Todt died in a plane crash in 1942, 680 00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:43,332 and one of his deputies named Xaver Dorsch 681 00:32:44,233 --> 00:32:46,515 took over control of the agency. 682 00:32:46,515 --> 00:32:50,515 I did find a couple of project Paperclip memos 683 00:32:50,515 --> 00:32:54,682 from 1947 that specifically requested Xaver Dorsch by name 684 00:32:55,897 --> 00:32:57,673 to be brought to the United States 685 00:32:57,673 --> 00:33:00,169 to work on the United States military's 686 00:33:00,169 --> 00:33:03,393 underground plant construction program. 687 00:33:03,393 --> 00:33:05,353 The American military certainly 688 00:33:05,353 --> 00:33:08,709 was well aware of who Xaver Dorsch was 689 00:33:08,709 --> 00:33:09,854 and his expertise. 690 00:33:09,854 --> 00:33:12,835 In his day he was probably the preeminent authority 691 00:33:12,835 --> 00:33:15,776 on underground base construction, 692 00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:19,359 whether in Germany or in the United States. 693 00:33:20,553 --> 00:33:22,629 - Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina 694 00:33:22,629 --> 00:33:25,113 but they're not from an ancient civilization. 695 00:33:25,113 --> 00:33:27,734 They're reportedly connected with the Nazi regime. 696 00:33:27,734 --> 00:33:30,456 According to an article in the New Zealand Herald 697 00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:32,857 a secret bunker was found which appears 698 00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:35,776 to have been planned for members of the Nazi party 699 00:33:35,776 --> 00:33:37,795 to use as a hideout after 700 00:33:37,795 --> 00:33:41,256 losing the war and fleeing to South America. 701 00:33:41,256 --> 00:33:43,833 - [Narrator] I had people tell me that some of the bases 702 00:33:43,833 --> 00:33:46,916 are as deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down. 703 00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:50,014 - [Narrator] Okay so if they're one mile deep, 704 00:33:50,014 --> 00:33:51,593 how would they make that? 705 00:33:51,593 --> 00:33:54,516 Like can you state possibly a piece of technology 706 00:33:54,516 --> 00:33:57,278 that you came across say in 707 00:33:57,278 --> 00:33:59,930 documents you were researching or? 708 00:33:59,930 --> 00:34:01,609 - [Narrator] Oh yes, oh yes. 709 00:34:01,609 --> 00:34:05,776 Since at least the 1950s, the mining and civil engineering 710 00:34:07,354 --> 00:34:09,774 industries have had the capability 711 00:34:09,774 --> 00:34:12,691 to sink major shafts straight down. 712 00:34:13,998 --> 00:34:16,158 One even two miles or more, 713 00:34:16,158 --> 00:34:19,497 and then to tunnel out from the bottom of these shafts 714 00:34:19,497 --> 00:34:23,664 whether for mining purposes or for tunnel complexes. 715 00:34:24,558 --> 00:34:27,134 One of the most common forms is to use 716 00:34:27,134 --> 00:34:31,294 a very hard cutting edge on the tunnel boring machines 717 00:34:31,294 --> 00:34:33,758 that rotate, would be like a huge version 718 00:34:33,758 --> 00:34:36,890 of the drills used in petroleum industry 719 00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:38,771 or natural gas industry to drill 720 00:34:38,771 --> 00:34:41,758 very deep underground burrows. 721 00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:43,294 - [Narrator] I've heard theories 722 00:34:43,294 --> 00:34:46,076 of also nuclear power drills. 723 00:34:46,076 --> 00:34:50,195 - [Narrator] Yes, I cite this technology in my first book. 724 00:34:50,195 --> 00:34:51,894 These are called subterrains. 725 00:34:51,894 --> 00:34:53,577 Subterrains are nuclear powered. 726 00:34:53,577 --> 00:34:57,294 They use a small fission nuclear reactor. 727 00:34:57,294 --> 00:35:00,675 The nuclear reactor is contained within the machine. 728 00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:02,896 The research and design was done 729 00:35:02,896 --> 00:35:05,475 at Los Alamos National Laboratories back 730 00:35:05,475 --> 00:35:08,478 during the 20th Century and there were some patents 731 00:35:08,478 --> 00:35:11,118 granted to the research team at Los Alamos. 732 00:35:11,118 --> 00:35:13,715 If they are in use, they are being used 733 00:35:13,715 --> 00:35:16,298 clandestinely in great secrecy. 734 00:35:17,737 --> 00:35:22,478 - [Narrator] Could you also maybe lend to the audience 735 00:35:22,478 --> 00:35:27,054 some examples of real underground facilities? 736 00:35:27,054 --> 00:35:28,057 - [Narrator] The most famous one 737 00:35:28,057 --> 00:35:30,814 would be under Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado 738 00:35:30,814 --> 00:35:34,090 which used to be the NORAD headquarters. 739 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:36,174 Now it's a backup dormant base, 740 00:35:36,174 --> 00:35:39,118 but that'd be the most famous one I guess. 741 00:35:39,118 --> 00:35:41,315 It's appeared in many movies. 742 00:35:41,315 --> 00:35:44,731 It is large, it is sophisticated, it's deep. 743 00:35:44,731 --> 00:35:47,977 Then you also have the famous FEMA underground base 744 00:35:47,977 --> 00:35:51,235 beneath Mount Weather in northern Virginia. 745 00:35:51,235 --> 00:35:55,054 It's run by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. 746 00:35:55,054 --> 00:35:57,934 It's also quite deep, sophisticated, large. 747 00:35:57,934 --> 00:36:02,798 This so-called site R complex that is the Pentagon's 748 00:36:02,798 --> 00:36:05,795 alternate command center which is underground 749 00:36:05,795 --> 00:36:09,374 on the border between Maryland and Pennsylvania. 750 00:36:09,374 --> 00:36:13,395 Then of course you have the well known Area 51 facility. 751 00:36:13,395 --> 00:36:15,054 There's been quite a lot of 752 00:36:15,054 --> 00:36:17,774 underground excavation done there. 753 00:36:17,774 --> 00:36:21,637 Many people have spoken about facilities out there. 754 00:36:21,637 --> 00:36:22,640 - Yes sir. 755 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,298 - Let's go back to the so-called area 51 756 00:36:24,298 --> 00:36:27,898 because in people's minds when you say I can't talk about it 757 00:36:27,898 --> 00:36:29,633 because it's classified, conjures up 758 00:36:29,633 --> 00:36:32,239 oh there it is, there's the coverup. 759 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,280 Can you give us any hint without violating any sense of 760 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,447 confidential nature what kinds of things might be happening? 761 00:36:40,536 --> 00:36:41,760 - Sir I cannot, forgive me. 762 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,896 I just do not know. 763 00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:45,237 - [Reporter] Is there anyone in the Air Force that can? 764 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,771 - I'm gonna have to defer that to public affairs. 765 00:36:47,771 --> 00:36:50,174 It's outside of my area of expertise. 766 00:36:50,174 --> 00:36:51,578 - [Reporter] Do you believe in UFOs? 767 00:36:51,578 --> 00:36:53,828 - Firstly no sir. - Why not? 768 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,920 - Ma'am I have no reason to believe that they're real. 769 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,944 - [Narrator] And then there are other ones 770 00:37:00,944 --> 00:37:03,381 that are perhaps less well known. 771 00:37:03,381 --> 00:37:07,995 The NSA in Laurel, Maryland which is at Fort Meade. 772 00:37:07,995 --> 00:37:10,362 Now Fort Meade is an armed facility 773 00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:13,938 but the NSA is actually the major activity there 774 00:37:13,938 --> 00:37:17,000 and there are just literal acres, 775 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,480 multiple acres of supercomputers beneath Fort Meade 776 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,424 that go down and down and down. 777 00:37:23,424 --> 00:37:25,664 I have been told 20 levels, maybe more 778 00:37:25,664 --> 00:37:29,584 and then Los Alamos National Lab in northern New Mexico. 779 00:37:29,584 --> 00:37:32,600 Then you have Camp David in Maryland. 780 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,341 Many people are familiar with Camp David as 781 00:37:35,341 --> 00:37:37,902 a United States presidential retreat 782 00:37:37,902 --> 00:37:40,480 where presidents often helicopter to 783 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,960 for rest and relaxation, but less commonly known 784 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,781 is there is a massive underground facility 785 00:37:47,781 --> 00:37:50,000 that spreads out for miles. 786 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,958 In the route to the first war against Iraq, 787 00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:55,722 Bechtel built three deeply buried 788 00:37:55,722 --> 00:37:59,701 sophisticated underground facilities in Saudi Arabia. 789 00:37:59,701 --> 00:38:03,280 They were used during the war, the first war. 790 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,562 Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf who was 791 00:38:05,562 --> 00:38:07,744 the American military commander 792 00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:11,677 spent most of that war underground in Saudi Arabia. 793 00:38:11,677 --> 00:38:13,541 And the Chinese, it has come to light 794 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,722 that the Chinese have constructed something like 795 00:38:15,722 --> 00:38:18,901 3,000 miles of underground tunnels 796 00:38:18,901 --> 00:38:21,541 to house their nuclear arsenal. 797 00:38:21,541 --> 00:38:22,981 - [Narrator] What is, what's the benefit 798 00:38:22,981 --> 00:38:24,837 of building all of these bases 799 00:38:24,837 --> 00:38:26,741 in and around the world? 800 00:38:26,741 --> 00:38:27,861 What is it for? 801 00:38:27,861 --> 00:38:31,100 Is it for keeping things secret, 802 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,538 and what are they keeping secret? 803 00:38:33,538 --> 00:38:36,261 Is it for keeping things away from the public? 804 00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:38,624 Is it also for protection in some way? 805 00:38:38,624 --> 00:38:40,021 Could you elaborate on that? 806 00:38:40,021 --> 00:38:41,701 - [Narrator] Yes to all of that. 807 00:38:41,701 --> 00:38:43,642 All of those are considerations. 808 00:38:43,642 --> 00:38:45,916 The motivation for going deep underground 809 00:38:45,916 --> 00:38:49,322 and or deep undersea is often driven by 810 00:38:49,322 --> 00:38:52,072 concerns of security and secrecy. 811 00:38:52,957 --> 00:38:56,421 Weapons production and storage happens underground 812 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,487 whether for nuclear weapons or other kinds. 813 00:38:58,487 --> 00:39:02,654 This has been going on ever since the World War II period. 814 00:39:05,162 --> 00:39:05,995 - [Reporter] It looks almost like 815 00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:07,737 a scene from an action movie. 816 00:39:07,737 --> 00:39:09,964 Dozens of ballistic missile launching systems 817 00:39:09,964 --> 00:39:12,663 inside a gigantic cave. 818 00:39:12,663 --> 00:39:15,164 But the video shows Iran's missile program 819 00:39:15,164 --> 00:39:18,140 is very real and very big, 820 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:20,423 as the head of the elite revolutionary guards 821 00:39:20,423 --> 00:39:22,604 aerospace division says. 822 00:39:22,604 --> 00:39:25,260 The missiles in various ranges are mounted 823 00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:28,604 on launchers in all bases and are ready to be launched 824 00:39:28,604 --> 00:39:31,388 he told an Iranian state TV reporter and added 825 00:39:31,388 --> 00:39:34,860 that is if enemies make a mistake. 826 00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:35,863 - [Narrator] You also have 827 00:39:35,863 --> 00:39:38,538 scientific research facilities underground. 828 00:39:38,538 --> 00:39:40,881 The CERN supercollider on the border 829 00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:43,703 of Switzerland and France would be a good example. 830 00:39:43,703 --> 00:39:47,058 That one is very publicly known and discussed. 831 00:39:47,058 --> 00:39:49,736 There are other underground research facilities 832 00:39:49,736 --> 00:39:52,364 including like Area 51 and elsewhere 833 00:39:52,364 --> 00:39:56,114 that operate much more out of the public eye. 834 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,564 There are many rumors about clandestine 835 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:03,927 extraterrestrial facilities both underground and undersea, 836 00:40:03,927 --> 00:40:05,980 and a growing number of people 837 00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:07,863 have come forward over the years 838 00:40:07,863 --> 00:40:11,381 with ample accounts of having seen 839 00:40:11,381 --> 00:40:14,439 and or been taken into such facilities 840 00:40:14,439 --> 00:40:16,124 by a variety of reasons. 841 00:40:16,124 --> 00:40:18,479 Both by extraterrestrials and also 842 00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:21,980 by shadowy elements of the United States military, 843 00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:23,361 by clandestine units. 844 00:40:23,361 --> 00:40:26,081 I do take these stories seriously. 845 00:40:26,081 --> 00:40:30,237 I do believe that these types of facilities exist. 846 00:40:30,237 --> 00:40:32,380 One of the big reasons that they would be here 847 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:36,161 and underground again, for secrecy, for security, 848 00:40:36,161 --> 00:40:40,721 and for purposes of communication, command, and control. 849 00:40:40,721 --> 00:40:42,961 The same reasons that the United States military 850 00:40:42,961 --> 00:40:45,118 builds underground bases. 851 00:40:45,118 --> 00:40:46,684 - [Narrator] Secrecy, how corporations 852 00:40:46,684 --> 00:40:49,802 and military rule the underworld. 853 00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:51,815 - [Narrator] I've spent years going through heaps 854 00:40:51,815 --> 00:40:53,724 of technical documentation 855 00:40:53,724 --> 00:40:55,500 in the military industrial complex 856 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:57,660 and Morrison-Knudsen is one of those 857 00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:00,940 that would pop up in the bibliographies. 858 00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:04,098 Companies like Parsons Brinckerhoff, William Douglas, 859 00:41:04,098 --> 00:41:06,321 Kiewit, Black and Veatch. 860 00:41:06,321 --> 00:41:08,700 Of course you have the two military agencies, 861 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,599 the Army Corps of Engineers which is definitely involved 862 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:15,199 in constructing underground bases and tunnels. 863 00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,841 It has been for more than half a century. 864 00:41:17,841 --> 00:41:21,703 You also have the US Navy Seabees who also work 865 00:41:21,703 --> 00:41:25,521 in underground and undersea construction. 866 00:41:25,521 --> 00:41:29,340 Those would be two of the lead military agencies, 867 00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:32,364 but there are large corporations that are involved. 868 00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:34,684 The Bechtel Corporation is one. 869 00:41:34,684 --> 00:41:37,939 Then you have the tunnel boring machine companies 870 00:41:37,939 --> 00:41:39,580 such as the Robbins Company. 871 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:42,233 A number of these companies which for decades 872 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,137 have worked very closely with 873 00:41:45,137 --> 00:41:48,038 not only the United States military agencies, 874 00:41:48,038 --> 00:41:49,756 but also other agencies in 875 00:41:49,756 --> 00:41:53,539 construction of underground facilities and tunnels. 876 00:41:53,539 --> 00:41:56,036 These are massive undertakings, 877 00:41:56,036 --> 00:41:59,479 and to do that you need to have large organizations 878 00:41:59,479 --> 00:42:02,235 with the bureaucratic administrative structure 879 00:42:02,235 --> 00:42:06,235 that's capable of supporting projects like this. 880 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:09,260 You won't easily find this stuff on the internet. 881 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:10,977 I found these documents by going to 882 00:42:10,977 --> 00:42:13,619 federal document repositories 883 00:42:13,619 --> 00:42:17,996 at major university libraries in the United States 884 00:42:17,996 --> 00:42:21,217 and also federal agency document repositories. 885 00:42:21,217 --> 00:42:24,540 With these corporations it's like a shell game, 886 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,977 and it's harder and harder to find out 887 00:42:26,977 --> 00:42:31,079 who is working for whom and what they're doing 888 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:34,017 and under what conditions. 889 00:42:34,017 --> 00:42:37,297 The so-called Morrison-Knudsen is now owned 890 00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:40,214 by something called URS as of 2007. 891 00:42:42,156 --> 00:42:45,697 So you see, it makes it hard to follow what they're doing 892 00:42:45,697 --> 00:42:49,836 and to follow the money and the contracts 893 00:42:49,836 --> 00:42:52,817 because the names in the corporate alliances 894 00:42:52,817 --> 00:42:54,156 are constantly changing 895 00:42:54,156 --> 00:42:57,180 in a state of flux at a very high level. 896 00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:00,860 - Now these mega bases are gobbling up 897 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:02,394 our gross national product. 898 00:43:02,394 --> 00:43:05,079 Right now we're spending 28% of the gross national product 899 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,162 on building underground bases solely. 900 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:12,337 That doesn't count for the defense budget. 901 00:43:12,337 --> 00:43:15,570 That doesn't count for the spare parts budget. 902 00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:19,356 And the black budget is dead, dead wrong. 903 00:43:19,356 --> 00:43:22,146 It sidesteps the United States Congress 904 00:43:22,146 --> 00:43:24,632 and its Constitution of its people, 905 00:43:24,632 --> 00:43:28,700 and says you're a bunch of morons, you don't need to know. 906 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,276 Now, all this alien thing is fine 907 00:43:31,276 --> 00:43:33,738 except for one thing. 908 00:43:33,738 --> 00:43:36,655 Alien takeover is a serious threat. 909 00:43:38,812 --> 00:43:40,813 Kept totally out of the public view, 910 00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:44,730 off the surface, I'm sure the underground bases 911 00:43:46,068 --> 00:43:47,401 without question 912 00:43:49,028 --> 00:43:53,825 are being used as forum, a place to house alien takeover. 913 00:43:53,825 --> 00:43:55,803 Alien takeover means the implementation 914 00:43:55,803 --> 00:43:58,468 of a one-world government. 915 00:43:58,468 --> 00:44:02,270 Direct opposite of constitutional law. 916 00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:05,390 Direct opposite of freedom of choice. 917 00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:07,748 Freedom of religion. 918 00:44:07,748 --> 00:44:10,331 Other freedoms that go with it. 919 00:44:11,828 --> 00:44:14,131 Right to bear arms. 920 00:44:14,131 --> 00:44:17,572 If we allow another election to go by 921 00:44:17,572 --> 00:44:20,430 with the same ilk in the White House, 922 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:23,097 we have only ourselves to blame. 923 00:44:26,964 --> 00:44:28,767 - One of the questions that arises is 924 00:44:28,767 --> 00:44:31,423 whether or not there is a legendary 925 00:44:31,423 --> 00:44:36,108 much talked about deal between human government groups 926 00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:38,889 and non-humans, a human-alien deal. 927 00:44:38,889 --> 00:44:40,388 You know all I can say at this point 928 00:44:40,388 --> 00:44:42,708 is that anything's possible. 929 00:44:42,708 --> 00:44:44,030 I do believe that there are 930 00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:46,292 a number of other beings that are here, 931 00:44:46,292 --> 00:44:48,528 so if that is possible is it then possible 932 00:44:48,528 --> 00:44:50,265 that such a deal went wrong? 933 00:44:50,265 --> 00:44:52,590 For example what would the deal have included? 934 00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:55,108 It could have included we humans 935 00:44:55,108 --> 00:44:59,206 getting certain technologies and knowledge from them, 936 00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:03,012 in exchange for them having the ability 937 00:45:03,012 --> 00:45:04,830 to do certain things in our society 938 00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,300 without us giving them a hassle for. 939 00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:11,289 For them having a permanent base somewhere maybe in Nevada. 940 00:45:11,289 --> 00:45:14,226 Or for them every now and then taking a human being 941 00:45:14,226 --> 00:45:16,889 to examine them, but then returning them. 942 00:45:16,889 --> 00:45:20,068 This is the claim of the human-alien deal. 943 00:45:20,068 --> 00:45:23,889 And the claim furthermore is that we learned, 944 00:45:23,889 --> 00:45:25,401 during the seventies and eighties 945 00:45:25,401 --> 00:45:29,588 that they were not abiding by their agreement. 946 00:45:29,588 --> 00:45:32,726 That they were taking humans, not telling us, 947 00:45:32,726 --> 00:45:35,188 not telling the human government and so forth. 948 00:45:35,188 --> 00:45:38,866 None of this I have any idea if this is true or not. 949 00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:39,870 I have no idea. 950 00:45:39,870 --> 00:45:41,870 What I would say is that 951 00:45:42,729 --> 00:45:46,896 it would very much be in the interest of a visiting race 952 00:45:48,468 --> 00:45:51,812 to make a deal with the US government, why not? 953 00:45:51,812 --> 00:45:54,051 Sure they might be able to wipe us out 954 00:45:54,051 --> 00:45:55,730 if they felt like it, but maybe that's 955 00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:57,470 too much of a hassle for them. 956 00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:58,747 Maybe it's just somewhat easier 957 00:45:58,747 --> 00:46:02,110 to deal with the local governing power. 958 00:46:02,110 --> 00:46:05,148 So it would make sense to make an arrangement 959 00:46:05,148 --> 00:46:08,868 with the local strong arms, strongman 960 00:46:08,868 --> 00:46:11,209 which would be the US military and the US government 961 00:46:11,209 --> 00:46:15,268 and if you really want to get subterranean here so to speak, 962 00:46:15,268 --> 00:46:16,750 there would be a lot of benefit 963 00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:19,812 from a visiting race of extraterrestrials 964 00:46:19,812 --> 00:46:22,895 to exploit Earth and that to the max. 965 00:46:24,532 --> 00:46:26,030 You know a lot of folks in this field 966 00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:28,247 believe that any visiting ET race 967 00:46:28,247 --> 00:46:32,430 would by their nature be peaceful and nonviolent. 968 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:34,169 I never agreed with this. 969 00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:36,809 I don't understand why just because 970 00:46:36,809 --> 00:46:39,668 you have better technology then that means you're nicer. 971 00:46:39,668 --> 00:46:41,268 You can be just as exploitative. 972 00:46:41,268 --> 00:46:42,427 Look at human history. 973 00:46:42,427 --> 00:46:45,028 We've got great technology these days. 974 00:46:45,028 --> 00:46:47,105 It doesn't mean we're any less exploitative of people 975 00:46:47,105 --> 00:46:48,692 than we were 5,000 years ago. 976 00:46:48,692 --> 00:46:52,270 Well look if you come from some place that's not here, 977 00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:54,706 really makes sense doesn't it to create 978 00:46:54,706 --> 00:46:57,929 a secure environment for yourself 979 00:46:57,929 --> 00:46:59,825 probably under the ground. 980 00:46:59,825 --> 00:47:01,689 It's the best place to be. 981 00:47:01,689 --> 00:47:03,668 All the features of planet Earth 982 00:47:03,668 --> 00:47:06,089 are suitable for human beings. 983 00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:09,449 They may not be as suitable for some other type of species 984 00:47:09,449 --> 00:47:11,012 that didn't come from here. 985 00:47:11,012 --> 00:47:14,772 When I go through the various witness reports, 986 00:47:14,772 --> 00:47:17,609 alleged reports of encounters that people have had 987 00:47:17,609 --> 00:47:22,169 with these other entities, that also reinforces my opinion 988 00:47:22,169 --> 00:47:24,349 that we're dealing with multiple groups. 989 00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:27,609 So at this point in the game, my working assumption 990 00:47:27,609 --> 00:47:31,108 is that humanity right now is interacting 991 00:47:31,108 --> 00:47:33,950 really on a covert basis with multiple 992 00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:38,117 highly intelligent non-human groups that are here, 993 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,445 and they're here for purposes 994 00:47:41,445 --> 00:47:44,430 that might very well be quite varied. 995 00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:47,332 It's not necessarily the case that they all have one agenda. 996 00:47:47,332 --> 00:47:51,390 Now some of these groups, or some of these entities 997 00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:54,607 according to again witness accounts 998 00:47:54,607 --> 00:47:57,274 are like the prototypical grays, 999 00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:02,889 that is the short humanoid large black eyes, big head. 1000 00:48:02,889 --> 00:48:06,806 Another type of non-human that's been discussed 1001 00:48:07,848 --> 00:48:11,070 are reptoid types, that is large, 1002 00:48:11,070 --> 00:48:14,089 kind of intimidating reptilian creatures. 1003 00:48:14,089 --> 00:48:16,169 Yet another type that's been reported 1004 00:48:16,169 --> 00:48:20,969 are what we might call a mantid or insectoid type creature. 1005 00:48:20,969 --> 00:48:23,790 All of this is bizarre, but yet these reports 1006 00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:26,452 are consistent across many many years 1007 00:48:26,452 --> 00:48:28,430 and many different types of people. 1008 00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:31,368 Some who are utterly ignorant of the lore 1009 00:48:31,368 --> 00:48:34,770 or of the literature about this and they still report these. 1010 00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:36,228 You know, ordinary people. 1011 00:48:36,228 --> 00:48:39,866 So that gives me pause and that makes me really wonder 1012 00:48:39,866 --> 00:48:41,849 if these reports are consistent 1013 00:48:41,849 --> 00:48:44,532 with some of the more ancient myths 1014 00:48:44,532 --> 00:48:48,089 that people have reported back in earlier times. 1015 00:48:48,089 --> 00:48:50,788 - [Narrator] Deep underground military bases, 1016 00:48:50,788 --> 00:48:54,212 extraterrestrials living beneath Earth's surface, 1017 00:48:54,212 --> 00:48:57,066 a race that might not even be from another planet 1018 00:48:57,066 --> 00:48:59,892 but rather one that has existed here, 1019 00:48:59,892 --> 00:49:04,327 in the shadows, throughout mankind's entire development. 1020 00:49:04,327 --> 00:49:07,310 Is this the biggest coverup in our history 1021 00:49:07,310 --> 00:49:10,030 or just another conspiracy theory? 1022 00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:13,652 In 2017 we still have no definitive proof 1023 00:49:13,652 --> 00:49:16,468 that any of these claims are true 1024 00:49:16,468 --> 00:49:19,092 which is all the more reason why this just might be 1025 00:49:19,092 --> 00:49:21,428 one of the greatest journalistic 1026 00:49:21,428 --> 00:49:23,845 responsibilities of our time. 1027 00:49:24,727 --> 00:49:27,332 - And I'm not asking you to believe me in total. 1028 00:49:27,332 --> 00:49:30,868 I am asking you to seriously do enough homework 1029 00:49:30,868 --> 00:49:33,769 that you can go out through the public record, 1030 00:49:33,769 --> 00:49:35,049 through the congressional records, 1031 00:49:35,049 --> 00:49:38,852 find out who's voting for what and go from there. 1032 00:49:38,852 --> 00:49:42,185 Do your own program, do your own agenda, 1033 00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:45,689 and do your own speaking out 1034 00:49:45,689 --> 00:49:49,856 and if enough of us do this there is some saving grace. 1035 00:49:53,470 --> 00:49:56,553 (gentle piano music) 1036 00:50:13,609 --> 00:50:16,276 (intense music) 78416

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