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[Formula 1 cars wailing]
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[crescendo of cars]
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[voice] Do you still get
the same buzz out of it Frank?
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[Frank] Absolutely.
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Truth is I love it,
the Formula 1 stuff, the real stuff,
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the speed they're going
through the corners,
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it's super men so I really believe
these guys meta morph
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when they get into the cockpit you know.
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They're immensely quick,
and the grip round the corners
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is just astonishing.
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[racing cars revving]
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[supersonic boom of airplane]
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[Frank]
If you're a pilot flying a jet,
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that's wonderful work isn't it? Why?
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Because I'm flying supersonic,
twice supersonic.
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[Frank] It blows my mind, the speeds
at which they can control these cars.
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What was it, Top Gun,
what did Mav say to Goose?
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He said “I feel the need,
the need for speed",
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I've never forgotten that.
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- [interviewer] And you've always had that?
- Sorry?
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[interviewer] You've always had that?
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Well I've always been
a little boy for a start,
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always enjoyed speed too.
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That's why I finished up in a chair,
going too fast.
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[Claire] We didn't sit round
the table as a family
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and discuss it and go
this is how we're gonna deal with it
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or you know
mum needs some counselling,
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the kids need counselling,
dad needs counselling to get through it.
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We've never talked about it
as a family, dad's accident, ever.
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[Claire] If it wasn't for Mum
I personally don't think.
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Williams would necessarily be around.
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I'm a really firm believer in Williams
is not just always about Dad,
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it's as much about Mum,
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she stood by him through thick and thin,
I mean she saved his life.
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[violin plays]
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[Formula 1 car wails]
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[general chatter]
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[car revving]
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[Howden Ganley]
Williams is unique now
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in that it is
the last of the old style teams
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where the team owners
all had their name over the door
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and Williams is the only one left.
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[fan] Frank's very rare
at interviews nowadays
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so he doesn't seem as
approachable or accessible
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from a, from a fan on the street.
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Whether we see enough
of him nowadays
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and whether
that's because of his health...
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We didn't see him this weekend,
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we saw Claire Williams
knocking about on Friday.
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She's a great face on the TV as well,
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where, you know being interviewed
and the like,
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it's interesting to have
a lady as Principal as well.
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[Claire] I think I may have
had like the odd grand dream
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but I never thought I would be given
the keys to the shop ever, ever, ever.
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I think a bit of it's because
I'm a girl and you know
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I can't possibly understand
anything about a car
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and you know it's Dad's train set
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and he doesn't wanna
hand it over to anybody else.
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[commentator]
The Marussia of Will Stevens
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gets out the way of Valtteri Bottas
and Max Verstappen
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but Verstappen's all over
the back of that Williams.
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[interviewer] What about Williams?
Where do you reckon
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Williams will place today?
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[spectator] Uh... might get a point.
One of the top ten maybe.
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[interviewer] Do you think they're
contenders anymore?
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[spectator] No, no.
Definitely not this year. No chance.
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[cars wailing]
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[interviewer] But Jacques,
you were the last driver
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to win a World Championship
for Williams.
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Yeah that's true, that's true.
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- [interviewer] How long ago was that?
- Uh... '97 so 20 years ago.
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- [Frank] Yes.
- [interviewer] Long time.
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Too long really, yeah.
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[commentator] In comes Bottas,
goes for another set,
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he's just given up,
there's nothing they can do really
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and I'm afraid that Williams
are gonna come away
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from Monaco with nothing.
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[Claire] It's really frustrating,
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it literally is banging your head against
a brick wall, what do we have to do?
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You know I have to walk around
with my head held high
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and I want to be able to do that um
and I don't feel that I can at the moment.
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[interviewer] Do you think Frank feels it
as acutely as you do now?
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[Claire] I'm sure he does,
he's trusted in me
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and I don't want him to ever doubt
that trust that he's put in me.
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[interviewer] Do you ever doubt it
yourself or...
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Um not right now no,
I've got a lot of fight in me left.
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[Frank]
Claire is a tough piece of work,
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whatever she sets out to do
she always achieves it,
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she's a bit like her mother,
her mother was like that,
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didn't make a lot of fuss,
just did things.
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[grass rustling]
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[Claire] I love this time of the year
with the Autumn coming.
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These are my mum's blossom trees
that we planted.
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[laughs] They look a bit dead now.
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These were the ones that we
planted on her,
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the anniversary, two year anniversary
of her passing.
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I wanted something here
that I could come to and chat to.
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- [interviewer] And do you do that?
- Yeah I do, a lot.
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[birds chirping]
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I come and ask her why
we can't fix our um,
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[laughs] the wheel nuts on our pit stops
and pray to her that
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she might help the guys in R&D
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that have been working
so hard on them.
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Right.
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I've got a whole box of
press clippings in there
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from when I was made
Deputy Team Principal.
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I thought I would frame them
and put them up
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and be all proud of myself, but now
they've just ended up in the shed.
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[Claire] This is a lovely picture
from when we won
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the race in Barcelona with Pastor.
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[interviewer] Was this the last time
you won a race?
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[Claire] Last time we won a race,
Barcelona 2012.
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So there's another picture of dad,
someone sent that to me,
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it's amazing, him lifting two wheel nuts,
how buff was my dad? It's amazing.
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It's was phenomenal how fit he
was before his accident.
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Oh this is an awful article that came out
when mum did an extract from her book.
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[Pamela] After the accident,
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I think Ginny was
on the edge of a nervous breakdown
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and she found communication,
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on an emotional level,
very difficult with Frank,
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Frank didn't do emotion
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and she perhaps felt that
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a book might be one way of
getting the story across to him.
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"I'm not usually given
to making New Year's resolutions"
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but at the end of 1988 I decided that
I would spend the following year
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setting down everything
that has happened to Frank and me
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"in the last two decades."
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- [light clicks]
- [Pamela] Yes.
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These are the little micro tapes that,
they took about 6 hours of conversation.
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[Pamela] That goes in... there.
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[beeping]
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[interviewer] How long is it
since you listened to these?
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[Pamela] Probably not since
I first transcribed them, which, so it is,
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it's 25 years ago and
I mean she sounds so alive today,
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25 years later
I can relieve that conversation.
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I feel very sad that
she's not here anymore.
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[footsteps crunching on pebbles]
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- Hello Pamela.
- [Pamela] Hello... [cross speaking]
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- [Claire] How are you?
- [Pamela] No need to ask who you are.
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I feel I should hug you
or kiss you or something.
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- [Pamela] Oh!
- I feel I know you so well already.
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[Pamela] Well looking at you...
I feel I know you so, really yes.
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- [Claire laughs].
- Is it a bit weird.
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- [Pamela] It is weird yes.
- Really? Do I look like mum?
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[Pamela] You do.
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[Claire] It was so weird
because I didn't,
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she obviously didn't tell
anyone in the family,
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but there was all this kind
of quite suspicious behaviour going on,
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kind of sneaking out or you know
I find the Dictaphone in her glove box.
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I was convinced she was having
an affair and confronted her with it
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and she still didn't tell me that
that's what she was doing.
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She actually met Frank
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about three months
before she was due to get married
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and that her fiancé
introduced her to Frank
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and there was an instant sort of
electric connection
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between her and Frank,
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she was only, I think 20,
she was very young
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and she thought, “What can I do?
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"The flowers are ordered,
the wedding oh..."
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Well she was blonde, blue eyes,
beautiful thick head of hair,
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beautiful manners, beautiful clothes,
came from quite a wealthy background.
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[Peter] She had
this lovely way of speaking.
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Great sense of humour.
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And she loved motor racing,
she understood motor racing.
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She had a very good feel
for racing drivers.
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[Jamie] Frank probably thought
you're not gonna believe it,
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she went to a finishing
school in Switzerland,
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they've got Labradors
in the garden, I've cracked it.
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I suspect that's what he told his mates.
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I mean she was just
a fantastic girl to talk to,
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it was like talking to a fella,
but you know with, wearing Chanel No. 5
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it was just brilliant.
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[Jamie] But in those days,
to back out of a marriage
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or a looming wedding was
almost impossible to do,
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you know invitations had
gone out and stuff like that
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and it would've been very tough
for her to, to pull the plug on it.
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[Pamela] Anyway she went through with
the wedding
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but this attraction didn't go away.
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[Claire] It was the charm,
it was the Frank William's charm I think,
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that smile and the big green eyes
and mum just went loony.
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[Dave Brodie] You know,
I remember going to cross a road
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and she's sitting in a Mini car,
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I said, “What you doing here?”
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"She said
“Brode, don't say anything to anybody"
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and she had a flask and sandwiches and
she'd been sitting there from nine o'clock
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hoping Frank would go across the road
and buy a paper at the newsagents
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and she could get out and say.
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"Oh Frank,
fancy bumping into you here"
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and she didn't do it once,
she did it all week.
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[Claire laughs].
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[Claire] It was a real magical
world, the world Frank started racing,
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it was this, you know, boys club
and I think Frank,
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he loved being a part of it,
and maybe because
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he hadn't been a part of a,
a gang, a group
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when he was you know in his childhood.
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[Frank] My father left, he was
a bomber pilot, left my mother.
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My mother brought me up.
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She did bring me up
pretty much single-handedly.
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[Claire] They lived in
Jarrow in South Shields,
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that was a difficult environment,
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difficult to make your way out of
and my grandma made the choice,
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she would sacrifice
the normal home environment
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in order to try and give dad
a better chance in life
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by giving him this education.
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[steam train whistles]
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[Frank] My first memories
were being sent to
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a Roman Catholic convent,
I was about, just coming up for five
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and I used to run away at
the railway station
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and they used to ring up
and say he's here again,
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please stop this happening again,
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whenever I got back, the school
they took my little trousers down
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and hit me with a, a coat hanger.
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I didn't mind,
I was quite happy at the school.
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- [interviewer] You were happy at school?
- [Frank] I was happy at the school, yes.
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[interviewer] So, and why did
you run away then?
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Uh... because
I wasn't that happy. [Laughs]
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No, but it was, I also loved trains,
I love trains and movement,
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I was always trying
to get a ride in a car,
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you know when someone's dad
turned up with a car,
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I was all over the car
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and sometimes they gave me
a ride up and down the road in it.
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I was, I was nuts about cars by then.
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[Frank] I did qualify for uni
but I had no interest,
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because I was uh... in a convent for
three years, one year at a day school,
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then another nine years
locked up as well,
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I was kind of keen on freedom.
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I'd bought for £80 a racing A35,
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it was a hot little ship I can tell you,
very quick car
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and that's how I got into
motor racing proper.
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[Dave Brodie] He was totally
obsessed by motor racing.
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I mean, to a degree
that was ridiculous. Ridiculous.
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Nothing else mattered.
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I don't think he's ever been
in a supermarket in his life.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[Dave Brodie]
Frank, when he first went there,
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there wasn't any room for him
so he slept in the lock ups
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down the side there in a sleeping bag.
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Everybody had a nickname.
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Roger Bunting was Bunt,
Charles Lucas was Charlie Luke,
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Piers Courage was called Porridge,
and Franks was called Wanks.
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Ah is Wanks around?
[laughs] No he'll be in later.
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Oh okay.
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[Frank Dernie] They were all
aristocratic, wealthy guys
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who wanted to go motor racing
and Frank was mixing with them.
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And he wasn't either
aristocratic or wealthy.
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[Dave Brodie] Well, all the other guys
that live in that flat
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had hereditary incomes.
Frank didn't, nor did I,
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so Frank had to earn some money.
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So the way he earned money
was to buy and sell parts.
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And every waking moment
he was chasing around the country
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buying stuff for a pound
and selling it for 2 pound.
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He called himself Frank Williams
Racing Cars in the end.
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The motivation behind the organisers
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wanting certain drivers was
that in France they had to have Matre,
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they had to have Beltoise
and Servoz-Gavin starting.
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Italy had to have a Ferrari on the grid.
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And I guess England
particularly wanted to be RM.
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[Howden] He seemed to me to be
the ultimate wheeler dealer.
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And then he expanded
and expanded and pretty soon
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he was selling a lot of cars
to European drivers particularly in Italy.
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[Dave Brodie] So Frank would get
a phone call from an Italian customer.
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“Hey Franks,
what are you gonna give me
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"for my car I need a new Brabham?"
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“I'll give you X for it."
“Okay, I'll come and get it."
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He's got an order
from the same customer
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for a brand new car.
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He'd then take that car apart,
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repaint it,
re-electroplate it, re-polish it
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and it would be, 3 months later, a totally
immaculate brand new looking car
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with a brand new chassis number
that he got out the back door at Brabham.
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The guy would then get the car back
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and what he actually got back
was the original car.
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I know one guy had the same car
for at least 3 years
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but he thought
he got a new car every year.
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[Pamela] Ginny had grown up
in a very sheltered environment
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and suddenly there was this man
who didn't go by the rules
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and he was very exciting.
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[Dave Brodie]
We'd go to parties on a Saturday night
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and Frank's dancing with Ginny
and it's getting obscene
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and her husband has got
daggers coming out of his eyes
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"and I walked up to Frank and I said
“Frank, what the fuck are you doing?"
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I said you can't be doing this,
have a normal dance,
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I mean you know the only thing
he wasn't doing was having sex,
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and Frank said, “Oh I hadn't noticed"
and Ginny said, “Well I certainly hadn't"
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[laughs] but everybody else had.
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And then of course the show
was on the road then with them two.
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[Pamela] And she moved into a flat
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and then she thought,
“How do I let Frank know that I'm here?
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Because I mustn't let him know that I,
left my first husband because of him,
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"that would scare him off."
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So he didn't drink but
what he loved was fresh orange juice,
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so she wrote a letter,
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'if you fancy some fresh orange
juice, it's now being served at... ',
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and she put her new address
and a day or two later
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[doorbell rings]
the doorbell rang
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and he turned up at the door.
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[interviewer] Looking for
some orange juice?
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Looking for some orange juice,
obviously. [Laughs]
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[fanfare]
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[commentator] And they're away...
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[commentator ♪2] I saw Frank Williams
make a very good start from the back,
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he's now in third place
from about the third row of the grid,
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that's very good indeed.
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[Dave Brodie]
Back then his whole thing
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was to be
the greatest racing driver in the world.
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[commentator] ..who's the yellow car
sneaking through there?
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[commentator ♪2] Frank Williams.
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[commentator]
It's Frank, look at him sneaking,
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what a battle with these two saloons.
My word...
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[Dave Brodie]
He was racing saloon cars,
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but for some reason,
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he never had an in built limit,
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he would just go faster
and faster and faster
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and fly off the circuit.
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- [commentator] And who's off there?
- [commentator ♪2] Frank Williams.
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[commentator]
Frank Williams trying too hard,
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Frank always very fast
but very hairy and he's living up to it.
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[Howden Ganley] When I started doing
uh... Formula 3
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sometimes I would encounter people
who would say to me
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do you know that chap Frank Williams?
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Yeah, I know Frank Williams,
oh, he's so fast and he,
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and he crashed here
and he overtook here
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and he did all kinds of things.
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So Frank had this amazing reputation
as someone who was lightning fast,
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not always staying on the road.
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[Dave Brodie] There were a
lot of races, he would've won,
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but he ended up spinning the car
and having accidents,
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he just didn't have a limit
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and that extended
to his road driving as well.
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- [interviewer] Well what was that like?
- [Dave Brodie] Diabolical.
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[interviewer]
Where did you learn to drive?
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[Frank]
In my mother's Morris 1000,
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she was very reluctant to lend it to me,
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and she was right because in the end
I did roll it on its roof.
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[interviewer]
But you rolled a few cars in your time.
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[Frank] Not that many, no.
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[interviewer] Well it's just
that every time we talk about a car
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it seems to be one that you've rolled.
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[Frank] Well I haven't talked about
that many cars though have I?
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[interviewer] But didn't you,
what was your first racing car'?
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- A35.
- [interviewer] What happened to that?
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[Frank] That got rolled [laughs].
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[friend] He was nothing but competitive,
against himself in a road car,
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it was almost at the point,
where he would start a stopwatch to see
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if he could beat
his previous time from A to B.
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[Dave Brodie]
And I think it dawned on him that
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pretty soon he was gonna hurt himself,
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you can't have that many accidents
on the road and in the, on race tracks,
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you know you end up hurting yourself,
especially back then
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when the cars were lethal.
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[car revving]
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[Frank] What got me into Formula 1
was only the fact
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that after two or three years of racing
rather dangerously around the continent
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it became apparent
that I might have lots of uh... courage
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but nothing like enough skill
to go with it.
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At the same time I became very friendly
with a young man called Piers Courage
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who was a brilliant driver.
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[Dave Brodie]
And the opportunity came for Frank
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to build a Formula 1 car
and Piers agreed to drive it.
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And then Piers and I set off in 1969.
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[Peter] Piers Courage
was an ebullient,
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fashionable Formula 1 driver
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that captured the imagination
of everybody who loved Formula 1
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and Piers was just, Frank's idea of
what a Grand Prix driver should be like.
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[Frank] He was just bouncy,
easily charming,
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had a beautiful wife
whom half of London was chasing.
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[Dave Brodie]
Apart from being a great looking fella,
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never had a hair or
a piece of clothes out of place,
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he was always the smartest guy,
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buttoned down blazer, grey flannels,
Gucci shoes, he looked almost holy.
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[Peter] And I remember him
making a speech,
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he had a slight sort of
English public school stammer
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and I remember the interviewer
saying “So Piers,
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"how's your car gonna go
this weekend?"
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"And he said, “Well I think it'll go
like an absolute b-b-b bomb actually."
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[presenter] Hoping to go one better
than his second placing last year
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was Piers Courage
in the very promising.
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Frank Williams backed De Tomaso.
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[Piers Courage]
I remember last year, my right foot
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terrific cramp in, cramp in it
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and also the great blisters
on my hands from the gear changing.
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[Frank] Well I kind of adored Piers
in many ways but in those days...
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it was "Piers is wonderful,
this is my mate."
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I thought the world of him.
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[Howden Ganley]
Piers and Frank were great together,
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they were almost made
for each other I think,
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you had Piers who was
really developing as a driver
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and Frank was really developing
as a team owner, constructor.
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[Frank] Second place at Monte Carlo,
can you believe that?
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Second place the US Grand Prix,
can you believe that?
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5th at Silverstone, a great run.
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[Dave Brodie] Everybody wanted to be a
racing driver and Piers was on his way,
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he'd beaten
Jackie Stewart and Jim Clark
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and he was a really, really good driver.
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♪ Lark Ascending J'
♪ Vaughan Williams ♪
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And suddenly he dies in this horrendous
accident in Frank's car.
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[Jackie Stewart] I was in the race
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and it was a terrible accident
involving us knowing that it was Piers
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that had the accident
because his helmet came off.
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[I climax of Lark Ascending I]
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[interviewer]
And when you heard the news,
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how did you hear the news?
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Well it was, all I will say is that it was
a major shock,
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I was very young, you don't
expect a shock like that
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and I remembered,
I went to the race organiser,
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a man called John Corschmidt
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and I said,
“John, just tell me is Piers dead?
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"Are you sure he's dead?"
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And he said I'm sure
and I said tell me that again,
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he told me, “He is dead Frank",
three times, I said "OK"
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and I got up and I had the job of telling
his wife, Piers' wife,
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and I'd rather not talk about that.
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[Jackie Stewart] His wife, Sally,
was in a terrible state.
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Wives in motor racing I think have had a
much tougher life than any driver has.
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[Dave Brodie] And I remember going
to the funeral and Frank was fantastic,
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he stood at the entrance of the church
and welcomed everybody in,
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and there were a lot of people,
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shook hands with everybody,
thanked them for coming.
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And then after the ceremony
we couldn't find him
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and I walked back into the church, it was
deserted
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and Frank was standing behind a big
stone pillar, absolutely destroyed,
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standing
there weeping his heart out
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"and I said “Come
on love, let's go home."
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And it was like
that happy-go-lucky scene we had,
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just dissolved like that.
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But I know that, you know,
it wasn't really mentioned in,
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Piers wasn't mentioned
terribly much at home,
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I'm not sure dad ever,
I'm not sure how you would get over
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a driver dying in your car.
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[Patrick]
This ability of Frank to carry on,
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for me ifs fairly standard
in motor racing, knowing racing people,
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most of them only think of tomorrow,
very rarely do they look back
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and very rarely do they allow
emotion to come into their motivation.
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[Howden Ganley] There was
a very high mortality rate,
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stupidly high
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and it was just accepted that
you probably weren't gonna survive,
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I personally did not think I would
survive my Formula 1 career
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and the odds weren't very good.
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[commentator]
On the second lap, disaster strikes,
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Von Trips loses control
but the race goes on.
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[Dave Brodie]
Those cars were effectively death traps,
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if you had a head-on in one of those
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they folded up
round you like an envelope,
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You didn't get out of them.
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[Frank Dernie]
The cars so readily caught fire,
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the fuel systems in a minor impact
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nearly always sprung a leak
and the fires were the thing.
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[Jackie Stewart]
We had a series of deaths,
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one each weekend for four consecutive
weekends, four of our friends died.
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[Peter] The ethos of Formula 1
was back then, this happens,
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ifs appalling but we, you know,
we're going to the next race,
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like falling off a horse,
you climb back on again.
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So this is an article, gosh,
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dad did an interview with
The Times after Ayrton died.
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'Formula 1,
one of the most powerful figures
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in Formula 1 bares his soul
457
00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,551
on his star driver's death
and the revival of his team.'
458
00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:25,560
Dad says, “It hasn't all sunk in yet,
you see, the fact of Ayrton's death,
459
00:29:25,639 --> 00:29:28,688
the same slowness of thought
helped me get over my own accident,
460
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:32,567
"I suppose that is why I'm so calm
about expressing the fact that he's dead."
461
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,875
[Moira Stuart] The former
world motor racing champion,
462
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:38,994
Ayrton Senna,
has been pronounced clinically dead.
463
00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:42,664
Senna suffered serious head injuries
when his car left the track
464
00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,958
and crashed into a concrete
wall.
465
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,793
[Claire]
I remember at Ayrton's memorial service.
466
00:29:49,871 --> 00:29:54,798
Mum said don't you dare cry,
she said this is not your time to be sad,
467
00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,628
she said this is not your loss.
468
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:03,056
Mum was a very loving lady
but she was very much of that mentality,
469
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:06,514
stiff upper lip, exactly like dad.
470
00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:09,475
I think they both probably
thought that emotion was weak.
471
00:30:11,852 --> 00:30:15,322
Well I mean it's not common
for men to show emotion,
472
00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:18,822
serious emotion,
maybe anger but that's about all,
473
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,403
I mean you should never start crying
or any of that stuff.
474
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,381
[interviewer] Never,
you should never start crying or...?
475
00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:24,827
We, I was, I was,
476
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,910
I shed a few tears
when Piers was killed definitely.
477
00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:30,667
Mm... And when Ayrton,
when Ayrton died,
478
00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:32,248
I mean they're my responsibility.
479
00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:34,299
- [interviewer] When Ayrton died?
- Yeah sure.
480
00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:36,001
But, er, it was out responsibility,
481
00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:39,634
he was in a racing car
operated by us, as was Piers.
482
00:30:39,713 --> 00:30:42,557
Yeah it was a Williams operated car.
483
00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:44,885
[interviewer] And so how did you feel
on that day?
484
00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:45,968
[Frank] Far from well.
485
00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:03,245
[horn blowing]
486
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:06,090
[commentator]
Here he comes down the outside,
487
00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:08,458
that's a brave place to try and overtake.
488
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,377
[Claire] Oh mama mia, mama mia,
oh they're gonna touch.
489
00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,706
[commentator] Bottas has a line!
They hit! They hit!
490
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:16,668
- And Raikkonen's off this time.
- Good, fuck off.
491
00:31:19,086 --> 00:31:23,341
We are operating on a budget of
approximately 110 million Sterling a year.
492
00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:26,302
And the likes of Red Bull
and Ferrari and Mercedes
493
00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,763
are operating on two
if not three times that budget.
494
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:32,145
So from a financial perspective
you could call us an underdog,
495
00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:34,727
I think that's the,
the negative connotation for me
496
00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:38,155
is it gives this sense that Williams
are weaker than anyone else,
497
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:42,076
but we're not, we've been through
a lot more than a lot of teams on the grid
498
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,697
and we've always come out fighting.
499
00:31:43,777 --> 00:31:47,873
[commentator] And it's Bottas
who finishes in third place,
500
00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:51,669
superb podium for him after
the incident with Raikkonen earlier...
501
00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:53,669
[interviewer] Finally,
a podium for Williams.
502
00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:56,874
So happy, my heart hasn't stopped
going yet, that was quite intense...
503
00:31:58,375 --> 00:32:02,300
[announcer]
Third place from Finland, Valtteri Bottas.
504
00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:07,510
[cheering and applause]
505
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:09,737
[interviewer] And did
your mum get to see you in this role?
506
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:13,766
No she didn't, um which...
507
00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:19,529
you know for me is really sad,
it's kind of heart breaking really.
508
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,575
I'm sad about that but Pm more sad that
she hasn't seen the team turn around,
509
00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:26,529
because that was
what she desperately wanted to see
510
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,659
that broke her heart really at the end.
511
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,778
I began to realise that
if I do want a wife
512
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:02,447
that she was the best
I was ever likely to find.
513
00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:22,171
Well it wasn't, it wasn't a posh wedding,
you know with white stuff everywhere,
514
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:26,721
it was a, what do you call that thing,
a reg, a reg, registry whatever.
515
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:28,232
- [interviewer] A registry office.
- Thank you very much.
516
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,305
[Claire] I think dad had said that
he would son' the registry office out
517
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,513
and never did and would get the rings
but he didn't have any money
518
00:33:34,596 --> 00:33:37,145
so Mum had to borrow money from
519
00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:39,981
um Dave Brodie
I think it was that bought the ring.
520
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,038
So that's it, I went there
quarter of an hour early,
521
00:33:42,062 --> 00:33:44,736
gave them £8.00, never got that back,
didn't expect it back.
522
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,317
[Pamela] It was all over in 15 minutes.
523
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,868
Her parents certainly weren't there,
524
00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:53,408
I'm not sure they approved
uh... of the match.
525
00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:57,620
Out we went
and I said, "Oh this a great day",
526
00:33:57,661 --> 00:34:01,256
let's have a celebration, I'm
gonna buy you all a spectacular lunch."
527
00:34:01,331 --> 00:34:03,584
Frank said,
“Not me you're not, I'm working”
528
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,011
and he fucked off, that was it.
[laughs].
529
00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:08,589
I don't know what man
in his right mind
530
00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:11,642
would think that that was OK
but you know Dad did,
531
00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:14,469
and Dad went back to work
and Mum went to lunch
532
00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:17,181
and probably really
didn't think very much of it,
533
00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:18,982
because she was used to it by then.
534
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:24,480
Dad is a completely different beast
to most normal men.
535
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,159
[Howden Ganley] Frank from when
I first met him was,
536
00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:31,657
always seemed very fit and athletic
537
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:34,831
and he was forever running, every
night was a long run.
538
00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:38,469
[Franke Dernie] He ran every circuit that
we were at the race track,
539
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,292
he used to run round it
and he felt bad if he didn't,
540
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,811
you know it was like a drug for him.
541
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:47,503
[Patrick] Frank is very,
what would be called focused,
542
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:49,554
some people could say narrow,
543
00:34:49,629 --> 00:34:53,133
I mean, some people
find Frank a bit unusual now
544
00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:58,393
and think it's because of the accident,
well it isn't, he was always very unusual.
545
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,734
[Keith Botsford] In Frank
there 's a huge amount of repression,
546
00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:05,028
there's a huge amount of determination.
547
00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:09,737
There's an extraordinary retentive
obsessiveness.
548
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:11,659
I suppose,
motor racing people in general
549
00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:15,205
are the most intensely competitive people,
I've ever known.
550
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,329
They're not
very mature intellectually or culturally
551
00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:22,288
because they neither read nor think
uh... very much except about
552
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:26,500
what they actually do to which
they think in an extraordinary degree.
553
00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:37,224
I've never been close to Frank socially.
I mean, we've never... [exhales]
554
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:40,184
I don't, I don't think
we've ever been out for dinner together.
555
00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:44,564
[Dave Brodie] He felt that anything
that involved socialising
556
00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,647
and having a drink or relaxing
was actually a waste of time.
557
00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:00,801
[Claire]
“I am addicted to motor racing",
558
00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:02,827
Frank Williams
declared uncompromisingly,
559
00:36:02,911 --> 00:36:06,211
motor racing is what matters
most in my life and then he goes,
560
00:36:06,289 --> 00:36:08,417
“Well I have a family which
I love very much,
561
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,003
but they tend
to take second place to the business,
562
00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:13,930
"there's no question about that" [laughs].
563
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,685
[interviewer] But did you used to do
the family holiday type thing?
564
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,977
Never done that, never.
565
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,148
Oh it's too late now anyway,
never interested in that.
566
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:26,818
[Claire] Oh my god,
well this is embarrassing,
567
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,612
Mum wanted a hotel
to take the three kids to
568
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,532
and family tradition was
to have a picture of all of us
569
00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,905
on the balcony with Mum,
so that's me and Mum there,
570
00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:38,579
so would've been when I was
16, look at me, horrendous.
571
00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:43,786
So in total we went to Marbella
with mum 32 times, 32 years.
572
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,791
[interviewer]
How many times did your dad come?
573
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,373
Never, not once.
574
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:52,460
[interviewer] And that didn't bother you?
No.
575
00:36:52,502 --> 00:36:54,814
Mum always used to tell us,
there's no point having your father here
576
00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:56,715
because he would drive us all mad,
577
00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,176
so we just used to go down there
and we had a lovely time.
578
00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:05,645
[cars revving]
579
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,523
[Frank] Can you get that wheel,
fast as you can, the bottom one.
580
00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:13,447
Joe have we got
another wheel mounted?
581
00:37:13,523 --> 00:37:15,525
[indistinct conversation]
582
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:35,803
[Claire] Frank endured
a lot of piss taking for his efforts
583
00:37:35,879 --> 00:37:38,098
and you know
he was the poor northerner
584
00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,471
that didn't have a pot to piss in
585
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:44,896
and his cars were rubbish and, you know,
he didn't have half the parts for them.
586
00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:49,773
[Patrick]
Frank couldn't afford new tyres
587
00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:54,448
and was racing
with second hand Firestone tyres I think.
588
00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:57,696
[Frank] I wish they'd ban
tyres, there's just too many.
589
00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:00,379
[Frank Dernie]
If Ginny hadn't been there,
590
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:02,906
Williams wouldn't have made it,
cause a lot of the money
591
00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:04,491
that kept it going was hers.
592
00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:28,765
[Dave Brodie]
I remember Ginny gave him £8.00 once
593
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:31,601
to go out and buy some fish and chips,
I think it was
594
00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:35,109
and he went out and bought
eight Champion sparking plugs
595
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:36,986
and never came back for three days.
596
00:38:37,065 --> 00:38:39,614
No I don't think my parents were
happy when they learnt
597
00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:44,198
that she'd sold her flat to help Frank
and to give him a bit of the money.
598
00:38:46,241 --> 00:38:49,120
If there was
a common denominator through
599
00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:54,959
the first decade of his relationship
with Virginia, would be penury.
600
00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:14,151
[commentator] Frank Williams' team
is at its lowest ebb
601
00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:17,151
the cars are well down the grid
in seventh and ninth places.
602
00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:28,374
[Dave Brodie]
Frank came round to see me
603
00:39:28,449 --> 00:39:30,577
"and said “Brode I can't carry on"
604
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,755
and he had a bit of paper
with debts on it and they were huge,
605
00:39:34,747 --> 00:39:38,377
and then overnight uh... this guy
who had been creeping around with Frank
606
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:40,962
and giving him
little bits of money, Walter Wolf,
607
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,548
did something that happens
in business all the time.
608
00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:45,633
[applause]
609
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,140
[Patrick]
Walter bought out Frank's debt
610
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:52,019
and took control
of the Williams Formula 1 team.
611
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:55,773
[Frank] Walter was clearly
a pretty clever business man
612
00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:59,106
he'd made a fortune many, many
tens of millions by himself.
613
00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:01,532
I thought let's give this a crack.
614
00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:04,782
[Patrick]
But by half way through 1976,
615
00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:09,037
it was very plain to Walter
that the race team wasn't running well,
616
00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:14,667
and that Frank didn't have
the capability to turn it around.
617
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:17,224
[Dave Brodie]
And then Frank went to the factory,
618
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:18,875
put his key in the front door,
619
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:21,461
it wouldn't work. Then,
the side window opened and a guy said,
620
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,939
“Frank that's your things there, you can't
come into the factory,
621
00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:25,636
you're banned from the factory now”.
622
00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:28,110
He couldn't believe it, he'd been
locked out of his own factory,
623
00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:31,809
it was his life, his life was in that box
and inside that factory.
624
00:40:31,888 --> 00:40:35,233
[car revving]
625
00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:40,030
And then six weeks later, Frank's car,
which was renamed 'The Wolf',
626
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:44,075
went down to South America
won its first race.
627
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:47,074
[applause]
628
00:40:47,153 --> 00:40:50,703
The thing that Frank had been living for,
for all those years.
629
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:54,995
[crowd cheering]
630
00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:13,809
[Dave Brodie] One day,
Ginny phoned me up and she said,
631
00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:17,688
“Brode I've got a lot of problems
with Frank, he's in a fit of depression,
632
00:41:17,767 --> 00:41:19,940
"he hasn't got out of
his pyjamas for six weeks."
633
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:25,238
Sol turned up 11 o'clock
and I looked at him and I said,
634
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:27,034
“What the fuck's going on here Frank?
635
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:28,657
"You've got your pyjamas on."
636
00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:34,459
"And he said “Brode, I can't quite
get my mind together about things"
637
00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:36,628
and I knew what was killing him.
638
00:41:53,386 --> 00:41:56,230
[car revving]
639
00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:57,602
[Dave Brodie] I said to Frank,
640
00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:00,119
"“Look there must be some way
you can get into Formula 1 again."
641
00:42:00,143 --> 00:42:02,121
"And he said “Well I don't know,
I don't know" he said,
642
00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:06,901
“but I've been thinking about it
and I might be able to get 185,000
643
00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:10,112
out of a Belgian beer company
called Belle-Vue
644
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:14,199
but we'd have to have a Belgian guy
called Patrick Néve as driver.”
645
00:42:14,282 --> 00:42:17,456
"I said “So what?
That's the start of a new Formula 1 team."
646
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:18,971
“Do you think so?“
I said, “Yeah Frank“,
647
00:42:18,995 --> 00:42:22,374
"I said “get out of them poxy pyjamas
and go to work, do what you're best at."
648
00:42:28,337 --> 00:42:30,024
[Dave Brodie] We sat
at my kitchen table and I said right,
649
00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:32,642
"“You do a list of Formula 1 team
names and I'll do a list."
650
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:35,220
[interviewer] And what was the name
that you came up with?
651
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:38,686
Oh it was really tough,
very testing, very brain stretching
652
00:42:38,765 --> 00:42:41,109
but we kept it
Williams Grand Prix Operating Limited.
653
00:42:42,852 --> 00:42:44,747
[Dave Brodie] I said
“Right I'm taking 2 days off.
654
00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:46,990
We're gonna go find a factory."
"Yeah!" he went.
655
00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:50,865
[hammering]
656
00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:54,702
[twisting, bolting]
657
00:42:59,035 --> 00:43:00,207
[engine revving]
658
00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:10,346
[Frank] It was very much
hand to mouth but uh...
659
00:43:10,379 --> 00:43:12,222
I loved what I was doing
660
00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:14,458
I'm very optimistic
and I felt it would all come right.
661
00:43:16,094 --> 00:43:18,072
At the end of the day,
when you're a racer, you're a racer,
662
00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:20,224
- it's a bit of a bug.
- [interviewer] A bug?
663
00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:22,767
[Frank] It gets you.
664
00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:30,317
[7]
665
00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:34,825
[car revving]
666
00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:43,580
[commentator]
140,000 fans packed into Silverstone,
667
00:43:43,663 --> 00:43:47,713
so Hamilton's on the right as we
look at it, Nico Rosburg on the left,
668
00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:51,171
the British Grand Prix
about to get under way,
669
00:43:51,254 --> 00:43:53,552
lights out, away we go
and who's it gonna be,
670
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,776
it's a good start from the second row,
the Williams and Massa,
671
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,895
Williams out getting
both cars past both Mercedes.
672
00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:00,739
[commentator] Massa leads,
Bottas trying to get
673
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:01,935
second from Hamilton,
674
00:44:02,014 --> 00:44:04,392
Hamilton in a bit
of trouble but he's fighting back
675
00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:08,730
but we have a race on our hands,
what a start from the Williams guys.
676
00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:12,417
- I think Valtteri is quicker.
- He is quicker, he should pass them.
677
00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:13,561
[Claire] He should pass them.
678
00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:15,828
[commentator ♪2]
Be careful, be careful! And he's off!
679
00:44:15,903 --> 00:44:18,281
Hamilton goes off in his attempts
to try and rest the lead
680
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,038
and that might give an
opportunity here for Valtteri Bottas.
681
00:44:21,117 --> 00:44:23,461
Bottas goes into second place.
682
00:44:24,662 --> 00:44:27,962
And up front ifs Williams
one and two at the moment.
683
00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,262
[commentator]
Bottas comes in from the race lead
684
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,644
as Lewis Hamilton
continues around the track,
685
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,394
let's see how the stop goes
for Valtteri Bottas, ifs pretty good,
686
00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:46,692
Hamilton's already along the start
finish straight, he's alongside,
687
00:44:46,767 --> 00:44:50,943
Hamilton retakes the lead
and where does Bottas come back out?
688
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:55,030
He comes back out behind
his team mate, Felipe Massa.
689
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:57,828
Oh, Hamilton is pulling away in front.
690
00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:07,046
Lewis Hamilton
wins the British Grand Prix,
691
00:45:07,121 --> 00:45:09,123
he had to fight for it,
692
00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:13,007
ultimately Williams have
to settle for fourth and fifth
693
00:45:13,085 --> 00:45:15,383
but you have to feel for Williams.
694
00:45:26,974 --> 00:45:30,854
[reflective background music]
695
00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:07,141
[background music shifts]
696
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:12,312
[presenter] Patrick Head is
the technical genius inside Williams,
697
00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:13,738
the engineer swot who
698
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,908
bestows power
on the charismatic leader.
699
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:24,699
When I met Patrick,
which is the best thing,
700
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,538
apart from marrying the wife I married,
701
00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:28,512
was the best day
to ever happen to me in my life.
702
00:46:28,536 --> 00:46:30,584
He was a gifted engineer.
703
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:37,132
[Frank Dernie] Patrick is a person who,
he doesn't suffer fools gladly...
704
00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:38,772
[Dave Brodie]
Oh he's a bully, if he wanted it
705
00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:41,219
and it wasn't coming
he'd bully his way through.
706
00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:42,651
[Franke Dernie]
A lot of people are frightened of him,
707
00:46:42,675 --> 00:46:45,849
you know he's a broad guy
and he can be quite aggressive looking
708
00:46:45,928 --> 00:46:51,401
but his character is not one that
junior employees found comfortable,
709
00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:54,274
you know what I mean, they knew when
they had made a mistake [laughs].
710
00:46:54,353 --> 00:46:59,359
[Patrick] I think most of
my father's forbears were military,
711
00:46:59,442 --> 00:47:04,994
one of them General Michael Head
had been a soldier under Wellington,
712
00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:11,546
I think not wanting to fail was a very
strong motivation.
713
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:16,046
This car's half a second slower
on the stop watch than the other car.
714
00:47:16,125 --> 00:47:17,217
Yeah.
715
00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:28,472
[Dave Brodie] The thing that was unique,
that Patrick brought to the show,
716
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:33,060
he was responsible
for making Formula 1 reliable.
717
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:37,901
So Frank's cars
almost instantly finish races,
718
00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:39,482
which they hadn't been doing before
719
00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:42,819
and that's
where life changed for Williams.
720
00:47:45,196 --> 00:47:48,700
[presenter] The British teams have
kept ahead with innovative designs,
721
00:47:48,741 --> 00:47:51,870
the most recent
being the aerodynamic skirt,
722
00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:54,080
a rigid panel that scrapes
along the ground
723
00:47:54,163 --> 00:47:56,211
between the front and rear wheels,
724
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:59,134
creating a phenomenon
called ground effect.
725
00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:01,804
[Pen squeaks]
726
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,506
For Frank Dernie a simple graph
727
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:07,560
shows the rise in suction
under the Williams wood skirts.
728
00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:11,356
If you remove the skirt you actually
get so little flow in this area...
729
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:13,367
[Frank Dernie] The thing
that really made a big difference
730
00:48:13,391 --> 00:48:15,689
was a fairing
along the side of the engine
731
00:48:15,768 --> 00:48:17,441
which allowed
the flow to remain attached
732
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,945
all the way to the back and I tested
that in a wind tunnel test
733
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:24,076
just before Silverstone in 1979
734
00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:28,497
and it was the biggest gain
of performance I've ever seen on a car
735
00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:31,416
so I rushed back from the wind tunnel
and drew the parts
736
00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,995
and we got them made so we
could use them at Silverstone.
737
00:48:36,997 --> 00:48:38,517
[Alan Jones]
I remember going out there
738
00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:40,009
and hopping in it for the first time
739
00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:41,461
and thinking bloody hell.
740
00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:43,397
[interviewer] What was
the difference with the car'?
741
00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:47,301
[Alan Jones] It was better [laughs]
it was just better.
742
00:48:47,383 --> 00:48:48,777
Don't start getting me,
trying to be technical
743
00:48:48,801 --> 00:48:50,974
because I'll look like a complete goose.
[laughs]
744
00:48:51,053 --> 00:48:55,604
[Patrick] We went to the test
and in the morning,
745
00:48:55,683 --> 00:48:59,313
everybody had been running and I think
the best lap time would of been uh...,
746
00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:04,151
I dunno 12.9 or something
by somebody and Alan went out,
747
00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:08,784
I remember the time absolutely,
he did a one minute 11.88 just like that,
748
00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:12,746
bang, and the rest of the pit lane
were doing mid 13s
749
00:49:12,825 --> 00:49:15,512
and it was most peculiar because
you were standing there with your thing
750
00:49:15,536 --> 00:49:18,380
and everybody went...
and looked down at us,
751
00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:20,925
they couldn't,
they just could not believe it.
752
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:33,805
[Murray Walker] In practice,
Alan Jones in the Saudia Williams
753
00:49:33,888 --> 00:49:37,142
has slashed an incredible
seven seconds off the record,
754
00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:39,857
and that's a lot these days.
755
00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:41,562
[Frank] Alan was a man's man,
756
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:43,739
he was an Aussie,
it's all you expect from an Aussie,
757
00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,942
maybe you know big character,
strong personality,
758
00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:48,403
took no nonsense from anybody.
759
00:49:48,486 --> 00:49:50,909
[Patrick]
He liked his fun, he liked to drink,
760
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,788
though I think he always had a bit of
a struggle keeping his weight down.
761
00:49:54,867 --> 00:49:56,869
After a race
you'd nearly always see him
762
00:49:56,952 --> 00:49:59,876
pouring a beer down
his throat or two or three.
763
00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:02,434
In motor sport there's two good
reasons to have a bit of a drink,
764
00:50:02,458 --> 00:50:04,301
one is to commiserate
and one is to celebrate,
765
00:50:04,376 --> 00:50:06,925
so you're pretty safe either way
you're gonna have a beer.
766
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:09,427
[Murray Walker]
Two Williams in the first two rows,
767
00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:12,977
the incredible veteran,
the Swiss driver, Clay Regazzoni.
768
00:50:13,052 --> 00:50:14,696
[commentator ♪2] Well Clay's
not as quick as he used to be
769
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,313
he's now very much
a number 2 driver
770
00:50:16,388 --> 00:50:18,641
he's number 2 to Alan Jones
in the Williams team.
771
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:21,651
[Frank Dernie]
We all sort of expected Regazzoni
772
00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:23,980
to be quicker than Jones
but he never was.
773
00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,194
Jones turned out
to be much, much better
774
00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:28,275
than any of us had realised I think.
775
00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:32,865
[Murray Walker] Now all ready
for the 68 lap British Grand Prix.
776
00:50:32,947 --> 00:50:36,997
[collective roar of cars]
777
00:50:37,076 --> 00:50:40,751
And punching through,
it's the two Saudia Williams cars,
778
00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:44,709
first into Copse Corner and
they're coming through, that's Jabouifle.
779
00:50:44,792 --> 00:50:47,011
Jean-Pierre Jabouille
is going to go through,
780
00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,054
he's got tremendous speed
and power here.
781
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:54,056
510 horsepower and it is still,
Alan Jones leads now.
782
00:50:54,134 --> 00:50:56,887
[Frank] When Alan took the lead
quite quickly and just disappeared,
783
00:50:56,971 --> 00:51:00,817
Patrick and I were just counting the laps,
praying for the laps to keep reducing
784
00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:04,566
because it, there was a new car,
it wasn't necessarily reliable,
785
00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:07,524
and witnessed what was about
to be a major event for the team.
786
00:51:07,606 --> 00:51:10,610
This became a reality.
787
00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:14,118
[Murray Walker]
And Alan Jones pulling away now.
788
00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:18,121
[Alan Jones] Well I was leading very
comfortably but then all of a sudden,
789
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,419
in the rear view mirrors
I saw a hell of a lot of smoke
790
00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:21,721
coming out of the back of the car
791
00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:23,348
and I thought there was
something wrong for sure.
792
00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:28,378
[Murray Walker]
And that is trouble for Alan Jones
793
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:33,011
and he, the way he's coasting,
it looks as though he's burst his engine.
794
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,818
[Alan Jones] I mean I should've
hung around for the end of the race
795
00:51:34,842 --> 00:51:37,686
but I was that pissed off
I just jumped in my car
796
00:51:37,761 --> 00:51:40,139
and went back to London
at about 300 mile an hour.
797
00:51:44,059 --> 00:51:46,437
[Murray Walker] So Clay Regazzoni
is the new leader
798
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,524
of the 33rd British Grand Prix.
799
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:55,906
Clay Regazzoni almost home
to win the first race ever
800
00:51:55,988 --> 00:52:01,210
for the Williams team and Frank Williams
will be beside himself with joy.
801
00:52:01,285 --> 00:52:04,255
[crowd cheers] And Clay Regazzoni
goes across the line
802
00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:07,459
and he has won the British Grand Prix.
803
00:52:07,499 --> 00:52:09,126
We were so much quicker
than anyone else,
804
00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:11,803
even though Clay
was nowhere near as fast as Alan
805
00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:14,052
and of course
when Alan broke down he won.
806
00:52:15,924 --> 00:52:17,892
[Dave Brodie]
We won a British Grand Prix,
807
00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:20,266
I mean you couldn't put it in a book,
it was incredible.
808
00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,850
[racing interviewer] Clay, what is
so good about this Williams car?
809
00:52:23,932 --> 00:52:26,151
[Clay] Everything, everything
flaughsL.
810
00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:28,979
It was the first win
for Frank Williams in Formula 1
811
00:52:29,021 --> 00:52:32,025
since he started
over a decade previously.
812
00:52:32,107 --> 00:52:34,826
[racing interviewer] Frank Williams,
this must be the happiest day
813
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:36,487
of your motor racing life.
814
00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:38,447
No doubt about that,
you're right yes.
815
00:52:38,530 --> 00:52:39,758
[racing interviewer]
Frank, what were your feelings
816
00:52:39,782 --> 00:52:41,204
during those last few laps?
817
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,123
Well sheer terror
that the car wouldn't finish,
818
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,006
we'd lost Alan and I was terrified of
losing Clay but the car was very sweet.
819
00:52:47,081 --> 00:52:48,892
[racing interviewer]
Frank we've watched you struggling,
820
00:52:48,916 --> 00:52:51,840
if I may say so,
in motor racing since 1969.
821
00:52:51,919 --> 00:52:53,605
Frank Williams,
a man who's kept trying for Britain,
822
00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:56,553
many congratulations Frank,
thank you very much.
823
00:52:56,632 --> 00:52:58,134
[crowd applauds]
824
00:52:58,217 --> 00:52:59,639
I think my parents just,
825
00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:01,846
after everyone had gone,
just sat there,
826
00:53:01,929 --> 00:53:04,102
just on the sofa
of the caravan arm in arm
827
00:53:04,139 --> 00:53:07,484
and just didn't want the day to end,
it was, it was surreal.
828
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,732
[interviewer] So what did that feel like?
829
00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:15,034
Well relief I suppose, a relief,
because a lot of people would think,
830
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:19,660
oh Frank, bloody Frank hasn't got a clue
what he was doing but I pressed on.
831
00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:23,709
[Patrick] For me personally I felt,
about bloody time.
832
00:53:23,784 --> 00:53:25,957
[Franke Dernie]
From that moment on in the season
833
00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:27,356
I think we were totally dominant,
834
00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:31,964
we were a second or two a lap quicker
than anybody else everywhere.
835
00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,937
[Alan] I went on and won
the next three Grand Prix's,
836
00:53:33,961 --> 00:53:36,180
I won the Dutch Grand Prix,
the Austrian Grand Prix
837
00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:37,848
and the German Grand Prix.
838
00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:41,097
[commentator] And Jones has done it,
and he is the world champion.
839
00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:52,738
He's the world champion of 1982,
Keke Rosberg.
840
00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:29,733
Well he has an eye for the ladies,
Frank, he's always liked a pretty girl.
841
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:35,865
[Dave Brodie] I, like Frank, had women
literally throwing themselves at me
842
00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:38,783
and you can't help every now
and again pick one up can you?
843
00:54:38,859 --> 00:54:43,160
I used to get notes put on
my windscreen wiper of my car,
844
00:54:43,238 --> 00:54:44,958
there were groupies
going around the circuit
845
00:54:45,032 --> 00:54:47,034
and they were parading
up and down the pits,
846
00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:50,542
unreal, we called
them screwdrivers, and they did.
847
00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:54,922
With any sport you get
a following of glamorous women
848
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,593
who are just there for the action
849
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:59,296
and they will appear
at the parties in the evening,
850
00:54:59,379 --> 00:55:01,677
sometimes in the hospitality areas
851
00:55:01,757 --> 00:55:05,261
and a lot of the sponsors
employ promotions girls,
852
00:55:05,344 --> 00:55:08,473
all tall and long legs
and very glamorous.
853
00:55:09,848 --> 00:55:11,521
[presenter] Formula 1 is
a heady cocktail
854
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,695
of strutting temperamental egos
855
00:55:14,770 --> 00:55:18,070
and a deep undercurrent
of male sexual domination.
856
00:55:19,358 --> 00:55:20,280
[Lyndon Swainston] When I started
857
00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:22,782
there were very
few women working in Formula 1,
858
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:28,122
some of the teams had a female caterer,
maybe a husband and wife team,
859
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,202
there were press officers
who were women,
860
00:55:31,411 --> 00:55:34,005
women were considered
to be irrelevant, they made the tea,
861
00:55:34,081 --> 00:55:37,881
booked the flights or provided
glamorous accompaniment
862
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,428
to drivers and team owners.
863
00:56:04,528 --> 00:56:06,030
Although she was a perfectionist,
864
00:56:06,113 --> 00:56:09,663
she knew that life
is always full of compromises
865
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,374
and that was probably one of
them and she'd fallen for Frank
866
00:56:12,452 --> 00:56:15,547
but she'd fallen
for Frank as a complete package.
867
00:56:15,581 --> 00:56:18,630
[Claire] And because she was completely
besotted and head over heels
868
00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:22,589
that was it and she dealt with it.
Um I wouldn't.
869
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,114
[interviewer]
Could you imagine at that time,
870
00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:41,815
a woman being
Deputy Team Principal or-
871
00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,152
No, absolutely no way,
872
00:56:45,861 --> 00:56:49,206
women, men in motor racing are sexist,
873
00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:52,376
they're possibly
the most sexist people in any sport.
874
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,581
Women are always going
to come under more scrutiny
875
00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:59,667
because there was a huge body
of people within Formula 1
876
00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:03,345
who still don't believe
women can do the same job as men.
877
00:57:09,801 --> 00:57:13,851
[Claire] I think Formula 1 traditionally
has been quite a male dominated sport
878
00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:16,980
but there are so many more women now
that work um in our sport,
879
00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:18,870
and that's not just
in the high profile positions,
880
00:57:18,894 --> 00:57:21,397
so we've got female engineers,
female aerodynamicists
881
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,949
so things are absolutely changing.
882
00:57:24,024 --> 00:57:27,153
[journalist] So your father is an icon
when it comes to Formula 1,
883
00:57:27,235 --> 00:57:29,863
was it harder to prove your skills
because you're a woman
884
00:57:29,947 --> 00:57:31,915
or because he's your father?
885
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:36,666
Um Formula 1, this role,
was not my ambition from a little girl,
886
00:57:36,745 --> 00:57:41,000
however kind of circumstances changed
and a job became available
887
00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:45,304
and I was asked to do it, not by my dad,
um and in fact when he was asked
888
00:57:45,379 --> 00:57:48,223
he said no way is she working
for my company. [Group laughs]
889
00:57:48,298 --> 00:57:49,901
[journalist] So if you're,
in your private life,
890
00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:54,180
in which situations do you enjoy
being a woman? [Group laughs]
891
00:57:54,221 --> 00:57:55,221
Um...
892
00:57:57,391 --> 00:57:59,769
[Claire] I get asked
that female question a lot,
893
00:57:59,851 --> 00:58:01,524
I was asked it last night at dinner,
894
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,732
I was asked it in
four interviews I did yesterday,
895
00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:08,661
but I still find it quite odd
that people find it surprising
896
00:58:08,735 --> 00:58:11,989
that a girl might be doing this job,
it really kind of annoys me.
897
00:58:12,072 --> 00:58:13,072
[laughs].
898
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,219
[Jonathan] Heritage is sort of a nice,
to-itself department uh...
899
00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:35,638
we, we have some support
from people in the factory
900
00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:39,066
but it's, it's mostly just,
just me and Dicky so
901
00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:41,940
yeah it's mostly just, just us here.
902
00:58:43,729 --> 00:58:47,154
Just getting down here to some of
the bigger components,
903
00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:48,376
you can see much heavier there,
904
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,528
they're actually
buckling the shelves in here.
905
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,079
Oh that box isn't numbered.
906
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,459
[interviewer] Does Claire ever
come over here Johnny?
907
00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:00,788
No I don't think
she knows this room exists.
908
00:59:00,871 --> 00:59:01,793
- [laughs] I don't.
- [interviewer] No?
909
00:59:01,872 --> 00:59:04,466
[Jonathan] No, nobody comes over here
I don't think [laughs].
910
00:59:07,377 --> 00:59:09,095
[Claire] Me and Johnny.
911
00:59:11,715 --> 00:59:16,186
Jonathan wearing his um, Johnny used
to like playing soldiers quite a lot.
912
00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:19,689
- [interviewer] How are things?
- [Claire] Not, not the best.
913
00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:24,065
- [interviewer] Can you talk about that?
- Um...
914
00:59:27,689 --> 00:59:30,784
Um... Johnny is, you know it's um...
915
00:59:30,859 --> 00:59:35,160
I suppose some families just have,
you know, always gonna have
916
00:59:35,238 --> 00:59:39,038
you know some issues
aren't they and um
917
00:59:39,117 --> 00:59:45,124
unfortunately Johnny and I do
um, which I think is something that I will
918
00:59:45,207 --> 00:59:49,838
regret and be very unhappy
about my whole life um...
919
00:59:52,464 --> 00:59:55,559
[interviewer] And is that,
is that to do with work or...?
920
00:59:55,634 --> 00:59:59,559
Yeah. Yeah it is, unfortunately.
921
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:05,478
[interviewer] Is it because
you got the position that you did and...
922
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,788
- Yeah.
- [interviewer] He didn't.
923
01:00:06,812 --> 01:00:09,281
Yeah, exactly.
924
01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:11,905
Yeah I'm not, I'm not the oldest
and I'm not a boy.
925
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,800
[Jonathan] Uh... that's me and Claire.
926
01:00:21,743 --> 01:00:23,783
[interviewer] You two look
pretty close in that one.
927
01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:28,254
That was about 30 years ago
flaughsL.
928
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:35,341
[Claire sighs]
929
01:00:36,675 --> 01:00:42,057
It's horrible,
he thinks that I was ambitious
930
01:00:42,139 --> 01:00:47,521
and that um I put myself in,
931
01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,323
in the position and
you know I lobbied, I,
932
01:00:51,398 --> 01:00:55,448
you know cajoled my way in and
933
01:00:55,527 --> 01:00:58,701
couldn't be the situation... could not
be further from the truth.
934
01:01:00,949 --> 01:01:05,125
[Jamie] It's something their mother
would be deeply unhappy about
935
01:01:05,203 --> 01:01:09,208
and I think it's something
that she could've sorted
936
01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:13,296
um in a way
that probably nobody else could.
937
01:01:13,378 --> 01:01:15,847
I don't believe Frank could,
could sort it out.
938
01:01:47,996 --> 01:01:52,467
[Jonathan] I can remember some time in
1984 and as young children do,
939
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:54,753
waking up earlier than their parents
940
01:01:54,836 --> 01:02:00,309
and just for this man
with a moustache and uh...
941
01:02:00,342 --> 01:02:03,095
an accent different to ours,
obviously being from Birmingham
942
01:02:03,178 --> 01:02:05,727
just walking past
and saying good morning
943
01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:08,649
and it scaring the living life out of us,
944
01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,978
and us both running into
my parents' room
945
01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:13,289
and saying there's a man in the house,
there's a man in the house
946
01:02:13,313 --> 01:02:15,987
and uh... them saying,
“No, no, no, no it's Daddy's new driver,
947
01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:16,942
"that's Nigel Mansell."
948
01:02:17,025 --> 01:02:19,670
[Murray Walker] The rumours say
that you might be going to Williams,
949
01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:20,796
what would you have to say about that?
950
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:23,140
[Nigel Mansell] Williams? Williams?
Who are they? [Laughs].
951
01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,710
[Frank] When Nigel was on top form
952
01:02:26,785 --> 01:02:28,721
he was as good as any driver
we've ever had I would say,
953
01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,918
he was hard work out of the car
954
01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:33,125
but in the car he was,
he was really superb.
955
01:02:33,208 --> 01:02:36,712
[Frank Dernie]
Nigel is three people in one,
956
01:02:36,795 --> 01:02:39,389
he's an absolutely fantastic racing driver
957
01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:43,598
who is just astoundingly good
when it comes to overtaking people.
958
01:02:43,677 --> 01:02:46,806
[commentator] And Mansell moves to the
outside and Manselfs going through,
959
01:02:46,888 --> 01:02:51,109
Nigel Mansell takes the lead
and neatly boxes Ayrton Senna.
960
01:02:51,184 --> 01:02:53,937
[Frank Dernie] As a family man,
he's just the nicest guy,
961
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:58,571
he's got a lovely family, he adores his
children, he's faithful to his wife,
962
01:02:58,650 --> 01:03:01,073
unlike quite a few racing drivers
963
01:03:01,152 --> 01:03:04,531
but as a person out of the car
he's an absolute arse,
964
01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:06,787
you know he's just
a difficult bloke to work with.
965
01:03:06,866 --> 01:03:08,511
[Nigel Mansell]
Drive slower, get it together,
966
01:03:08,535 --> 01:03:10,412
it's a fucking nightmare,
then someone's...
967
01:03:10,495 --> 01:03:13,214
[Frank Dernie] And that was why,
generally speaking,
968
01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:18,012
we all liked Nelson quite a lot
and found Nigel a bit too much.
969
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:27,930
[BOs music]
970
01:03:28,013 --> 01:03:31,688
[Frank Dernie] Nelson Piquet replaced
Keke Rosberg for '86
971
01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:36,397
and he was hired because
Frank loved the idea of Nelson Piquet,
972
01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:39,028
he had already won
two world championships
973
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:42,702
and he loved
Nelson's Brazilian flare, his girlfriends,
974
01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:44,547
the way he looked,
the way he carried himself.
975
01:03:44,571 --> 01:03:47,415
[Jackie] He had the private yacht
and he had a helicopter on the yacht
976
01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:50,539
and he had a
citation 10 jet which at that time
977
01:03:50,618 --> 01:03:54,213
was by far the fastest jet in the world
and he was flying it.
978
01:03:54,289 --> 01:04:00,012
[Peter] Nelson was ebullient, loved life
and was a very cool guy,
979
01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:04,637
Nigel was cheese
and chutney sandwiches
980
01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:07,185
and hot milk before he went to bed.
981
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:08,261
[Nigel Mansell] Yes!
982
01:04:08,345 --> 01:04:11,724
[Frank Dernie] I thought at that time
Nelson was the best driver in the world,
983
01:04:11,806 --> 01:04:16,027
so I was thrilled to bits he was coming,
he was very keen to join Williams
984
01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:17,904
because he felt that
we were the quickest.
985
01:04:17,979 --> 01:04:21,609
[Patrick] Nelson felt
with that package around him
986
01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:24,820
he could win
another world championship.
987
01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:27,705
[cars wailing]
988
01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:39,634
[Frank Dernie] We were doing
the last of the pre-season tests,
989
01:04:39,709 --> 01:04:45,466
"the Paul Ricard Circuit, so we had both
Nigel Manse" and Nelson Piquet there,
990
01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:48,267
Frank had come out to the test because
991
01:04:48,301 --> 01:04:50,929
he was very excited
about the performance.
992
01:04:54,015 --> 01:04:57,064
[Claire] Dad was you know away,
he was at a preseason test
993
01:04:57,102 --> 01:04:59,196
and it was a kind of
spring afternoon and mum
994
01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:01,819
suggested we go out on some bikes
995
01:05:03,358 --> 01:05:06,453
and took a little picnic
and found a field, like you do
996
01:05:06,528 --> 01:05:09,657
and it was a really lovely day
and then we just got back
997
01:05:09,739 --> 01:05:14,586
and waiting for dad to come home
and, but he never did.
998
01:05:16,579 --> 01:05:18,172
[Patrick]
The test was going very well,
999
01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,091
I think Frank
was full of the joys of spring
1000
01:05:20,166 --> 01:05:22,715
and thinking, right we're gonna go out
and show them
1001
01:05:22,794 --> 01:05:24,637
we can win the world championship,
1002
01:05:24,712 --> 01:05:30,685
he was due to run a half marathon
on the Sunday morning afterwards.
1003
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,390
[Peter] Frank, keen to get back
for the half marathon he was doing,
1004
01:05:34,472 --> 01:05:37,225
it was a county half marathon,
he was that good.
1005
01:05:38,351 --> 01:05:39,495
[Patrick]
And so he and Peter Windsor
1006
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:42,944
who was the marketing guy at the time,
they went to the airport.
1007
01:05:42,981 --> 01:05:46,952
[Peter]
And he had his Avis Ford Sierra...
1008
01:05:47,026 --> 01:05:48,462
and he said “Right c'mon, let's go.”
1009
01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:53,663
And then a spot of get-home,
have you ever heard of get-home-itis?
1010
01:05:54,701 --> 01:05:56,053
[interviewer]
When you wanna just get home?
1011
01:05:56,077 --> 01:05:59,331
[Frank] You've gotta get home, must do,
must catch the last flight.
1012
01:05:59,414 --> 01:06:03,510
[Patrick] He took a little twiddly road
down through the back of the circuit
1013
01:06:03,585 --> 01:06:07,886
and it was a very, very twisty,
narrow road.
1014
01:06:07,964 --> 01:06:11,309
[Peter] And he was in this 1600 Sierra,
throwing the thing around,
1015
01:06:11,384 --> 01:06:13,057
braking as late as he could
1016
01:06:13,136 --> 01:06:15,016
but I do remember
saying to Frank at one moment,
1017
01:06:15,096 --> 01:06:19,442
when the back end skipped out
under braking into a tight left hander,
1018
01:06:19,517 --> 01:06:21,736
uh... “Are the brakes ok
on this thing Frank?”
1019
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,905
[Frank] And he said
with sort of trepidation,
1020
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:26,483
“Frank do you always drive like this?",
1021
01:06:26,566 --> 01:06:29,003
meaning, and you can't really
tell your boss this, f-ing well slow down.
1022
01:06:29,027 --> 01:06:29,869
[Peter] I remember him saying,
1023
01:06:29,944 --> 01:06:31,664
“Yeah, the brakes are fine,
brakes are fine.
1024
01:06:31,738 --> 01:06:33,299
[Frank] I was rushing
and rushing and rushing.
1025
01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:34,550
[Peter]
Suddenly we were in clear road,
1026
01:06:34,574 --> 01:06:35,826
the road was downhill
1027
01:06:35,909 --> 01:06:39,334
and there was a fast left hand kink
about 300 yards ahead of us
1028
01:06:39,412 --> 01:06:42,507
and I remember seeing
through the windscreen the,
1029
01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:46,295
a stone wall on the inside,
it looked like we were just gonna hit the,
1030
01:06:46,377 --> 01:06:50,803
the end of this wall and my reaction was
just to bury myself in the foot well area.
1031
01:06:50,882 --> 01:06:55,433
As we hit the back,
that wall the car went up in the air...
1032
01:06:59,265 --> 01:07:02,860
there was just silence,
just a terrible silence,
1033
01:07:02,936 --> 01:07:06,782
then this massive thump and crash.
1034
01:07:06,856 --> 01:07:10,827
It was you know a real whack
in my neck sharp, sharp pain, pain.
1035
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:13,534
It's, rolling over doesn't hurt like this.
1036
01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:17,117
I remember Frank saying
after about 10 seconds,
1037
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,326
“Are you ok? Are you ok?
1038
01:07:18,409 --> 01:07:19,969
I can't move, I'm trapped, I'm trapped,
1039
01:07:19,994 --> 01:07:22,622
get me out, get the ignition off,
get the ignition off',
1040
01:07:22,705 --> 01:07:24,423
because already
there was a smell of fuel.
1041
01:07:24,499 --> 01:07:30,051
I'm suspended about three,
four inches from the floor upside down.
1042
01:07:30,129 --> 01:07:30,925
[Peter]
And there was a lot of blood
1043
01:07:31,005 --> 01:07:32,725
because he'd taken
a direct blow on his head
1044
01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:34,759
when the roof had come down like that.
1045
01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:36,820
[Frank] Soon as I undid the belt,
of course I fell on my bleeding head,
1046
01:07:36,844 --> 01:07:38,061
right on my neck again.
1047
01:07:42,976 --> 01:07:43,818
The only thing I could remember
1048
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,941
was to try to stabilise
his head and neck
1049
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:50,321
and try to pull him out
by holding him under the armpits
1050
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,324
and then he started to say,
“You know Peter, I'm a Roman Catholic
1051
01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:57,499
and if anything happens, I want to see
if you can get the last rites.”
1052
01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:00,636
[Frank Dernie]
We were just looking at packing up
1053
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:04,381
when a French youth
arrived on a moped asking for me
1054
01:08:04,455 --> 01:08:06,924
and he explained that
Frank Williams had gone off the road
1055
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,719
and wanted some help.
1056
01:08:09,794 --> 01:08:12,513
But Nelson said “Oh shit,
that's a twisty road, I know the road,
1057
01:08:12,589 --> 01:08:14,512
"let's go down and see."
1058
01:08:14,591 --> 01:08:19,768
We didn't know exactly the damage
but uh...
1059
01:08:19,846 --> 01:08:24,352
Uh... we knew it was
something very dramatic.
1060
01:08:26,311 --> 01:08:28,985
[Nigel] We raced to the scene
as quickly as we could
1061
01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:32,567
and at that time Frank's life
was in the balance.
1062
01:08:32,650 --> 01:08:34,903
[ambulance siren]
1063
01:08:34,986 --> 01:08:37,239
[Peter] And that's when Nigel
delegated himself really
1064
01:08:37,322 --> 01:08:39,290
to go in the ambulance with Frank,
1065
01:08:39,365 --> 01:08:41,538
basically hold Frank's hand
and be with him.
1066
01:08:42,577 --> 01:08:46,582
Uh... I had a tremendous fear
for Frank's safety and,
1067
01:08:46,623 --> 01:08:48,842
and his wellbeing and life at that time.
1068
01:08:48,916 --> 01:08:54,798
So certain people needed to be energised
to do the right thing, quickly.
1069
01:08:57,717 --> 01:08:59,361
[Franke Dernie]
But by then it was pretty clear
1070
01:08:59,385 --> 01:09:02,980
that there was a very good chance
that he's broken his neck.
1071
01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:07,812
When I phoned Patrick Head I told him
that it looks like, from the x-rays,
1072
01:09:07,894 --> 01:09:10,067
that Frank's spinal column's been cut
1073
01:09:11,856 --> 01:09:14,905
and it was pretty, I think I said to him,
“I think he's' fucked”,
1074
01:09:16,569 --> 01:09:19,573
like you know he looked really bad.
1075
01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:25,538
[Patrick] The next day Ginny
and I flew down to Marseille
1076
01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:30,091
and she was pretty shattered
but she was a brave woman.
1077
01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:56,444
The first time that I knew
that things were gonna be really serious
1078
01:09:56,526 --> 01:10:00,121
was when the doctor in charge
of the intensive care unit
1079
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,575
called Ginny and I into
his office and said,
1080
01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:05,831
"“When do you wanna move
Frank back to England?"
1081
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:09,881
Which I immediately
took to mean they think he's gonna die
1082
01:10:09,956 --> 01:10:11,876
and they don't want him
to die in their hospital.
1083
01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:38,193
At that stage,
when Ginny got the message
1084
01:10:38,276 --> 01:10:40,199
that the frogs
were gonna let Frank die,
1085
01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:44,124
she organised a plane,
flew him back to Heathrow,
1086
01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:46,621
an ambulance took him
to the London hospital
1087
01:10:46,701 --> 01:10:50,001
and 20 minutes later he was
hooked up to English machines
1088
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,673
and he was in
a shocking state, shocking state.
1089
01:10:54,584 --> 01:10:55,728
[Peter] The first thing
that happened to Frank
1090
01:10:55,752 --> 01:10:58,426
was that he had a tracheotomy operation
in the London hospital
1091
01:10:58,463 --> 01:11:00,306
and the operation went
well in the sense that
1092
01:11:00,339 --> 01:11:03,513
suddenly Frank had
relief and he could breathe,
1093
01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,971
he could get the fluid out of his lungs
1094
01:11:06,053 --> 01:11:11,059
and I remember Ginny learnt how
to operate the extraction of the fluid
1095
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,786
and would help the nurses
and was able to do that
1096
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,858
on her own within a day or two.
1097
01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:19,534
Her approach was I'm gonna manage
these nurses around Frank's bed here
1098
01:11:19,609 --> 01:11:21,828
the way Frank runs a race team.
1099
01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:38,341
[Patrick]
Ginny was literally his guardian,
1100
01:11:38,419 --> 01:11:40,797
he clinically died three times
1101
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,852
and without Ginny jumping on top of him
and pumping his lungs out
1102
01:11:45,927 --> 01:11:49,522
and resuscitating him,
not the nurses and the doctors,
1103
01:11:49,597 --> 01:11:52,942
but Ginny herself,
um he would've been dead.
1104
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:58,948
[Peter] I remember I was off one day
and Ginny was on duty as she called it.
1105
01:11:59,023 --> 01:12:01,242
The head of the unit came out and said,
1106
01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:04,366
“Normally Mrs Williams,
in this situation,
1107
01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:08,746
"we would turn the life support off,
but we need the family's permission."
1108
01:12:33,933 --> 01:12:37,563
[interviewer] Did you ever doubt whether
Frank should be kept alive?
1109
01:12:37,645 --> 01:12:39,613
Yeah.
1110
01:12:39,689 --> 01:12:42,693
Yeah and um I actually said to him,
1111
01:12:42,775 --> 01:12:46,325
“Frank, I'm your best pal
and I'd do anything for ya,
1112
01:12:46,404 --> 01:12:48,498
you want a bag over your head,
I'll do it for you",
1113
01:12:48,573 --> 01:12:50,450
I promise you I said this,
1114
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:53,286
I said “but you'd have
to convince me first
1115
01:12:53,369 --> 01:12:57,169
"why your kids wouldn't
want you around in any condition"
1116
01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,047
and I said,
“So don't ask me to do anything
1117
01:13:00,126 --> 01:13:02,879
"that your kids wouldn't approve of."
1118
01:13:02,962 --> 01:13:04,231
So he said, “I won't do that David",
1119
01:13:04,255 --> 01:13:07,304
that was when he was speaking,
he said “I'll never do that."
1120
01:13:10,344 --> 01:13:13,439
[Claire] So this is a book
I wrote when I was little.
1121
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:17,786
I wrote that
“I thought it would be a good idea
1122
01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:19,938
to start a kind of scrap book
all about my father.
1123
01:13:20,021 --> 01:13:22,945
Above all I wanted somewhere
to write down all my memories of him
1124
01:13:23,024 --> 01:13:25,573
before my mind had
the chance to forget them.
1125
01:13:25,651 --> 01:13:28,780
Hopefully I will never forget what
he used to be like before his accident.
1126
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:34,911
Everyone thinks their father is the best.
I'm not an exception.
1127
01:13:34,994 --> 01:13:38,294
"I worship my father.
It sounds silly but he's my hero."
1128
01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:42,168
[Franke Dernie] I started taking CDs
1129
01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:43,604
and things like that
for him to listen to,
1130
01:13:43,628 --> 01:13:45,551
to fill in the time a bit,
1131
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:47,733
because you have to remember
he was a marathon runner,
1132
01:13:47,757 --> 01:13:52,558
you know he used to run 12 miles
every day and felt bad if he didn't
1133
01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:55,811
and it was a spectacularly
big change of life for Frank
1134
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:57,312
when he had his accident.
1135
01:13:57,391 --> 01:14:00,315
[interviewer] So what, what kind
of music did you introduce him to?
1136
01:14:00,394 --> 01:14:01,737
[Frank Dernie] Bach.
1137
01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:07,990
♪ Erbarme dich ♪
♪ Johann Sebastian Bach ♪
1138
01:14:10,821 --> 01:14:14,041
[Dave Brodie] I mean I thought
that my pal Frank was indestructible,
1139
01:14:14,116 --> 01:14:15,834
you know he got away with everything,
1140
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:18,959
Frank'll be alright
but he wasn't on this one
1141
01:14:19,038 --> 01:14:21,757
and Pd go and see him
three or four times a week,
1142
01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,709
I always gave him a kiss, I had to,
1143
01:14:23,793 --> 01:14:25,270
lean over and give him a kiss
on the forehead
1144
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:26,688
and say
"Your old mate Brode's here, mate."
1145
01:14:26,712 --> 01:14:30,137
and he used to flicker his eyelids
at that, he couldn't speak,
1146
01:14:30,216 --> 01:14:33,641
stuff in his mouth, up his nose,
oh it was a horrible sight.
1147
01:14:35,596 --> 01:14:36,990
[Frank] Oh there was
a lot of discomfort
1148
01:14:37,014 --> 01:14:38,482
and pain in the very early days,
1149
01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:42,027
that's inevitable,
when such a major part of your body
1150
01:14:42,061 --> 01:14:47,784
gets a kick in the arse
but um I can't say "Oh it was terrible",
1151
01:14:47,858 --> 01:14:49,952
it's not in my mind,
I don't remember much of it.
1152
01:14:51,904 --> 01:14:54,373
Body's got a great
many ways of protecting itself,
1153
01:14:54,448 --> 01:14:57,167
when it's in a bit of pain or bother.
1154
01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:06,878
First thing they said,
“Broken your neck, long recovery period,
1155
01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:09,510
how much you'll recover isn't sure“,
1156
01:15:09,588 --> 01:15:12,057
of course they knew
I wouldn't recover uh...
1157
01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:13,851
but you don't quite tell a person
1158
01:15:13,926 --> 01:15:16,554
"when he wakes up
“You're f-ed mate, for good."
1159
01:15:18,764 --> 01:15:21,108
[Jamie] Probably for the first time
in front of me,
1160
01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:25,484
Virginia, she lost it,
it was a sort of an awful moment
1161
01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:29,409
and I remember putting my arms
around her and she was saying.
1162
01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:30,963
“Frank's gonna be, he's quadriplegic,
1163
01:15:31,027 --> 01:15:33,621
"he can't walk Jamie,
he can't do anything."
1164
01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:35,915
And I was saying, “It's gonna be ok”
1165
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:37,537
but I had this sort of feeling,
1166
01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:40,039
I wasn't sure at all that
it was going to be ok.
1167
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:46,092
For a long time, maybe three,
four months after the accident,
1168
01:15:46,167 --> 01:15:50,968
there was no real certainty that
he'd ever be able to leave the hospital
1169
01:15:51,047 --> 01:15:55,848
and to all intents
and purposes he was dead to the team.
1170
01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:58,270
And you know there we were
with the fastest car,
1171
01:15:58,345 --> 01:15:59,813
we were gonna win all the races,
1172
01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:02,563
we got two fantastic drivers
and everything was going
1173
01:16:02,641 --> 01:16:06,441
and then all of a sudden the boss,
the figure head, the main man
1174
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,902
had had this horrific accident
and it really was a massive change.
1175
01:16:13,652 --> 01:16:19,284
I think then it sort of dawned on us all,
um, where do we go from here?
1176
01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:21,039
What's gonna happen in '86?
1177
01:16:26,165 --> 01:16:27,642
[Murray Walker]
We await the start of the.
1178
01:16:27,666 --> 01:16:31,216
Brazilian Grand Prix
and the 1986 season.
1179
01:16:31,295 --> 01:16:35,300
Sadly, Frank Williams,
boss of the Williams team isn't here
1180
01:16:35,341 --> 01:16:38,220
after a major road accident in France.
1181
01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:43,141
But for the whole team,
that's an added incentive to do well.
1182
01:16:43,182 --> 01:16:45,202
[Dave Brodie] Well they went to work
with a vengeance,
1183
01:16:45,226 --> 01:16:47,274
instead of them all
moping about, they said.
1184
01:16:47,353 --> 01:16:49,372
“You tell Frank you don't have to
worry about a thing here,
1185
01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:51,239
we're gonna win the
next races for him.“
1186
01:16:54,693 --> 01:16:55,535
[Murray Walker] And it's go.
1187
01:16:55,611 --> 01:17:00,287
A superb start for Nigel Mansell,
who has already passed Nelson Piquet.
1188
01:17:02,409 --> 01:17:07,836
And it's Senna, Manse“, Piquet is
the running order at the present moment.
1189
01:17:07,915 --> 01:17:11,215
Manselfs touching wheels
with Ayrton Senna.
1190
01:17:11,293 --> 01:17:14,422
[Franke Dernie] We went to the first race
and Nigel crashed on the first lap
1191
01:17:14,505 --> 01:17:18,885
whilst trying to overtake Senna
in a very stupid manoeuvre.
1192
01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:20,654
[Murray Walker] Mansell appears
to be out of the race
1193
01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:25,479
so up into second position ifs now
Piquet and Moretto is up into third place.
1194
01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:28,778
And through
into the lead goes Nelson Piquet,
1195
01:17:28,853 --> 01:17:35,907
Nelson Piquet leads on lap three,
this one is for you Frank.
1196
01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:40,912
Nelson Piquet wins
the 1986 Brazilian Grand Prix
1197
01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:43,789
and you will hear
the crowd go absolutely mad.
1198
01:17:43,868 --> 01:17:45,120
[crowd cheering]
1199
01:17:45,202 --> 01:17:47,296
[Nelson] I can say
it was a very special day for me,
1200
01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:49,294
I think it's a good present for Frank,
1201
01:17:49,373 --> 01:17:52,172
I think he's there
lying in a bed and uh...
1202
01:17:52,251 --> 01:17:55,801
I think he will
be happy to watch the race and uh...
1203
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,305
Uh... we hope uh...
that god help Frank also.
1204
01:18:00,551 --> 01:18:02,269
[Peter] It was clear we had the best car
1205
01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:04,392
and the only thing that
was gonna come between us
1206
01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:06,189
and winning the championship
1207
01:18:06,265 --> 01:18:10,020
was lots of intra team rivalry
between Nelson and Nigel.
1208
01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:13,439
I think that, that was used
actually to motivate Frank,
1209
01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:16,275
we need you Frank,
to manage these two guys,
1210
01:18:16,358 --> 01:18:20,033
because there's gonna be problems if,
if we just let them race free rein
1211
01:18:20,112 --> 01:18:21,992
and we need
to get on top of this quite quickly.
1212
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:25,163
[Patrick] Nelson claimed
that Frank had said
1213
01:18:25,242 --> 01:18:26,960
you will be number one driver,
1214
01:18:27,036 --> 01:18:31,633
you will always have the spare car
and the team will revolve around you.
1215
01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:35,678
I came there to win the championship,
I came there as the number one driver.
1216
01:18:35,753 --> 01:18:38,848
[Peter] Problem was, Nigel didn't sign
as a number two driver.
1217
01:18:38,923 --> 01:18:40,766
So he drove as fast as he could
1218
01:18:40,841 --> 01:18:43,594
and quite a lot of the time
that was faster than Nelson was going.
1219
01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:45,113
[Frank Dernie] Nigel used
to drive straight at him,
1220
01:18:45,137 --> 01:18:46,573
because Nigel was pretty aggressive,
1221
01:18:46,597 --> 01:18:48,645
I mean a couple of times
Nelson said to me
1222
01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,601
I had two choices, be second or die.
1223
01:18:52,019 --> 01:18:54,943
[Nigel] I must've been a nightmare
to drive with as a number two,
1224
01:18:54,980 --> 01:18:56,778
being as quick as I was at times.
1225
01:18:56,857 --> 01:19:00,907
I mean that was horrendous.
You know, they hated each other.
1226
01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:06,038
[Patrick] Nelson insisted that we went
into the hospital and saw a,
1227
01:19:06,116 --> 01:19:09,165
an almost dead, croaking Frank.
1228
01:19:09,245 --> 01:19:11,748
Saying, “Frank you said
that this and whatever
1229
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:17,052
and Patrick is running the team so
that we're equal number ones with Nigel.
1230
01:19:17,127 --> 01:19:18,767
"And that's what,
not what you said to me."
1231
01:19:18,837 --> 01:19:21,340
And Frank was, I mean I don't think
Frank could reply to him.
1232
01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:23,266
He was almost out of it.
1233
01:19:24,635 --> 01:19:28,310
[Peter] When things didn't go
as well as they should've for Nelson,
1234
01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:30,391
in other words
when Nigel was quicker,
1235
01:19:30,474 --> 01:19:34,695
Nelson assumed that
it could only be because
1236
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:37,398
Nigel Mansell had
been given preferential treatment.
1237
01:19:37,481 --> 01:19:40,951
100% the English team
wanna win the English driver,
1238
01:19:41,026 --> 01:19:45,031
Williams for sure wanted to make
an English champion, not me.
1239
01:19:45,114 --> 01:19:46,957
[interviewer]
Nelson thinks that there was
1240
01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:50,502
a bias towards Nigel
because he was British.
1241
01:19:50,577 --> 01:19:53,376
I think that's not true, um
1242
01:19:53,455 --> 01:19:56,129
there could've been but Nigel
was such an arse
1243
01:19:56,208 --> 01:19:58,436
that it was very difficult
to have a natural bias to him,
1244
01:19:58,460 --> 01:20:01,259
I mean on one occasion, I do remember
he was whinging about something,
1245
01:20:01,338 --> 01:20:03,887
“Oh did you see what he did
to me then?", on the radio,
1246
01:20:03,966 --> 01:20:09,268
and Patrick said, on the radio,
“For fuck's sake, stop whinging Nigel”
1247
01:20:09,346 --> 01:20:11,565
and switched his radio off.
1248
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,895
[Frank] Patrick carried the business
in my absence, it was very hard on him.
1249
01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:18,026
Paddy was left lumbered,
1250
01:20:18,105 --> 01:20:21,450
an enormous amount of responsibility,
he wasn't ready for.
1251
01:20:21,525 --> 01:20:25,075
[Patrick]
I was up to my eyebrows with two guys
1252
01:20:25,154 --> 01:20:28,374
that both were determined to be
world champion that year
1253
01:20:28,449 --> 01:20:30,793
and were not gonna take
for me saying.
1254
01:20:30,868 --> 01:20:33,166
"Sorry I can't make a decent job
of running your car"
1255
01:20:33,245 --> 01:20:36,419
because I'm too worried
about Frank Williams so uh...
1256
01:20:36,498 --> 01:20:42,551
It was a very stressful,
very difficult time in the team.
1257
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:45,883
[Nelson] And uh... everything went
completely disaster for me,
1258
01:20:45,966 --> 01:20:47,764
but uh... Frank was not there
1259
01:20:47,843 --> 01:20:49,595
and I couldn't come
to the hospital and say
1260
01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:54,400
“Frank, this has happened this,
this has happened that, it's not fair“,
1261
01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:57,820
his problem was much more
than my problem.
1262
01:21:07,529 --> 01:21:09,623
[Jamie] Frank was still in intensive care
1263
01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:13,328
and he remained in intensive care
for quite a time and it was another,
1264
01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:17,631
I think it was 12 weeks
um before he eventually came home
1265
01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:20,755
but they were the longest weeks
you could imagine.
1266
01:21:30,260 --> 01:21:34,686
[Claire] We all were just relieved
and thrilled that dad made it
1267
01:21:34,765 --> 01:21:36,563
and he was home
and we got him home.
1268
01:21:37,935 --> 01:21:40,063
Yes it was a very different kind of life
1269
01:21:40,145 --> 01:21:43,615
but we had dad still
and we were a family still
1270
01:21:43,690 --> 01:21:46,739
and he still had Formula 1
and that's what kept him going.
1271
01:21:48,445 --> 01:21:50,743
[presenter]
Frank Williams is quadriplegic,
1272
01:21:50,781 --> 01:21:51,907
from his shoulders down
1273
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:54,584
he has no control
over the functions of his own body.
1274
01:21:55,828 --> 01:21:58,126
Less than six months
after the accident
1275
01:21:58,205 --> 01:22:00,378
he had ruthlessly
forced enough movement
1276
01:22:00,457 --> 01:22:04,712
into his partly functioning shoulders
to push himself along,
1277
01:22:04,795 --> 01:22:08,720
but his arms are just pistons of
flesh and bones, with no feeling.
1278
01:22:10,092 --> 01:22:13,346
[Michael Waldher] He's paralysed from
his shoulders literally downwards,
1279
01:22:13,429 --> 01:22:16,228
he can lift his arms
and he can, for example,
1280
01:22:16,306 --> 01:22:17,786
if he wants
to scratch him in his face
1281
01:22:17,850 --> 01:22:21,946
he pushes his hands
against his face um
1282
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:24,022
but he can't, he can't use his fingers.
1283
01:22:41,498 --> 01:22:42,976
[interviewer] Why does it say
hell on wheels?
1284
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,000
[Claire] Um...
1285
01:22:47,045 --> 01:22:49,969
Um it's because Dad's life
is hell in a wheelchair.
1286
01:22:53,010 --> 01:22:54,529
He's always in
a lot of pain all the time,
1287
01:22:54,553 --> 01:22:56,226
I don't think people realise that,
1288
01:22:56,305 --> 01:23:00,276
how much pain Frank is in, every day
of his life, every minute of every day.
1289
01:23:01,351 --> 01:23:03,163
[interviewer] You wouldn't know
it though would you?
1290
01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:07,067
No you wouldn't think he has anything
to complain about.
1291
01:23:07,149 --> 01:23:09,698
Dad never does think he has anything to
complain about.
1292
01:23:11,153 --> 01:23:14,874
That's a lovely picture of mum and,
well not so good of dad, lovely of mum.
1293
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:19,499
[interviewer] And what about Ginny,
how did Ginny react?
1294
01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:22,252
Well it was tough, tough, very tough
I think. Very tough lady.
1295
01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:26,131
Um but she didn't fall apart,
she took very good care of me.
1296
01:23:27,211 --> 01:23:28,838
It must've been very hard for her,
1297
01:23:28,921 --> 01:23:30,923
suddenly you're not
a proper husband anymore
1298
01:23:31,006 --> 01:23:32,966
and have to spend a lot of time
looking after him.
1299
01:23:34,551 --> 01:23:37,896
It's very difficult for anyone
who hasn't lived with a quadriplegic,
1300
01:23:37,971 --> 01:23:42,067
to know what it's like to almost lose
your husband but not quite.
1301
01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:09,254
Well their relationship clearly
was likely to change
1302
01:24:09,336 --> 01:24:14,888
um in that Frank needed care
at all times of the day and night
1303
01:24:14,967 --> 01:24:18,562
so if it was
a different kind of life for, for Frank
1304
01:24:18,637 --> 01:24:22,687
it was gonna be an equally different
kind of life for, for Virginia.
1305
01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:30,737
[Pamela] 'l'm not usually given
to making New Year's resolutions,
1306
01:24:30,816 --> 01:24:34,366
but at the end of 1988 I decided that
I would spend the following year
1307
01:24:34,444 --> 01:24:36,867
setting down everything
that has happened to Frank and me
1308
01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:38,369
in the last two decades.
1309
01:24:38,448 --> 01:24:40,542
Both before and after the car accident,
1310
01:24:40,617 --> 01:24:43,746
which left him permanently paralysed
from the neck down.
1311
01:24:43,829 --> 01:24:45,627
I felt it might act as an exorcism.
1312
01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,710
A way to put it all behind me
and start to look forward again.'
1313
01:24:50,210 --> 01:24:52,355
Reading it, it was like, Jesus Christ,
she went through this
1314
01:24:52,379 --> 01:24:54,131
and she didn't tell anyone,
1315
01:24:54,214 --> 01:24:56,512
you know she didn't share
that burden with anybody.
1316
01:24:58,010 --> 01:25:00,229
[interviewer] Why do you think
she shared it, then?
1317
01:25:00,304 --> 01:25:03,399
[Claire] She says that it was
a cathartic exercise for her,
1318
01:25:03,473 --> 01:25:05,350
because Dad's the star isn't he?
1319
01:25:05,434 --> 01:25:06,731
Dad's the one in the spotlight,
1320
01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:09,984
Dad's the one that everyone goes
Frank Williams is amazing,
1321
01:25:10,063 --> 01:25:11,940
Frank Williams is wonderful
1322
01:25:11,982 --> 01:25:14,326
and for all those years
Mum had been in the background,
1323
01:25:14,401 --> 01:25:16,449
I don't think she did it,
she didn't wanna do it
1324
01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:18,155
because she wanted fame or adulation,
1325
01:25:18,238 --> 01:25:22,493
she just did it because she wanted to,
people to know the full story.
1326
01:25:23,493 --> 01:25:27,168
[Pamela] 'His memory of the early days
after his accident is blurred and vague,
1327
01:25:27,247 --> 01:25:29,466
he has never asked me
what it was like in France
1328
01:25:29,499 --> 01:25:31,217
or in the London hospital
1329
01:25:31,293 --> 01:25:35,639
or what it has been like for me
these past few years, now he will know.'
1330
01:25:38,050 --> 01:25:40,769
[interviewer] Have you,
have you read her book?
1331
01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:42,266
No, I don't want to.
1332
01:25:42,346 --> 01:25:43,865
[interviewer]
Why do you not want to read it?
1333
01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:45,687
That's a peculiar emotion.
1334
01:25:48,977 --> 01:25:50,775
I think, I would like him to read it,
1335
01:25:50,854 --> 01:25:54,154
um because I think that
it would be respectful to Mum
1336
01:25:54,232 --> 01:25:57,361
um to understand
what she did go through but I just,
1337
01:25:57,444 --> 01:26:01,540
you know I think,
1338
01:26:01,615 --> 01:26:05,210
I dunno I just think it's probably
too much for Dad to read it,
1339
01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:08,255
he doesn't feel any need to,
but I wish he would.
1340
01:26:10,749 --> 01:26:13,093
[interviewer] Do you think you
ever will read it?
1341
01:26:13,168 --> 01:26:16,889
Maybe, before I die, but not,
not imminently that's for sure.
1342
01:26:20,008 --> 01:26:20,850
[Frank Dernie] That picture must be.
1343
01:26:20,926 --> 01:26:23,395
Frank's first Grand Prix
after his accident,
1344
01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:26,932
big change of life for all of us.
1345
01:26:36,858 --> 01:26:40,203
[applause]
1346
01:26:41,655 --> 01:26:47,788
[Patrick] When Frank appeared in the
wheelchair the crowd just went crazy.
1347
01:26:48,829 --> 01:26:50,098
It's great fun to be with the team,
1348
01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:51,802
it's great fun to be
at a race track again.
1349
01:26:54,334 --> 01:26:55,436
[presenter] Back at the track,
1350
01:26:55,460 --> 01:26:57,383
Frank Williams savoured
his team's success
1351
01:26:57,421 --> 01:26:59,048
for the first time this season,
1352
01:26:59,131 --> 01:27:03,136
Piquet and Mansell took first
and third places in practice.
1353
01:27:03,218 --> 01:27:06,563
[Patrick] He did have
a really sort of symbolic visit
1354
01:27:06,638 --> 01:27:08,356
but he was determined to be there
1355
01:27:08,432 --> 01:27:12,107
because he wanted
the world of Formula 1
1356
01:27:12,185 --> 01:27:17,487
to know that he was still around
and ostensibly still in control
1357
01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:24,120
but he played no part at all and
was very much a show appearance.
1358
01:27:25,323 --> 01:27:29,248
[Jonathan] But my father only attended
on the Friday, the practice day
1359
01:27:29,327 --> 01:27:32,080
and that was all
he was physically up for.
1360
01:27:33,331 --> 01:27:36,585
[Murray Walker]
The lights for red and go!
1361
01:27:38,336 --> 01:27:42,307
And Piquet leads,
Mansell is second into clearways...
1362
01:27:44,384 --> 01:27:47,479
The two Williams cars
in their battle for leadership,
1363
01:27:47,554 --> 01:27:51,900
toe-to-toe, eyeball to eyeball,
almost wheel to wheel.
1364
01:27:52,934 --> 01:27:54,607
[Peter] Nelson and Nigel
1365
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:57,610
really, really started
to slug it out with one another.
1366
01:27:57,689 --> 01:28:01,068
Nigel wasn't afraid to be half an inch,
an inch away from anybody
1367
01:28:01,151 --> 01:28:03,074
if he had to be, erm, and he was
1368
01:28:03,153 --> 01:28:08,284
and it was serious motor racing between
the two Williams Honda drivers.
1369
01:28:08,366 --> 01:28:10,084
[Murray Walker] And there he goes,
1370
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,414
Nigel Mansell
leads the British Grand Prix
1371
01:28:13,497 --> 01:28:17,252
from the man
who is his greatest competition.
1372
01:28:17,334 --> 01:28:20,213
Piquet's going for it as they go down
into the right hander
1373
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:23,640
at Paddock and Mansell's
absolutely on the racing line,
1374
01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:26,093
there are no orders between these two.
1375
01:28:26,176 --> 01:28:28,929
[Peter] From the pit wall,
that was the first time I remember
1376
01:28:29,012 --> 01:28:32,858
not actually enjoying the race
because I was so sweaty palmed
1377
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,277
as to what might happen
between the two of them
1378
01:28:36,603 --> 01:28:39,447
and I think Frank
was back home watching it on TV,
1379
01:28:39,523 --> 01:28:43,619
probably as nervous as the rest of
the team was at that point.
1380
01:28:43,693 --> 01:28:44,837
[Murray Walker]
Piquet going through on the inside
1381
01:28:44,861 --> 01:28:45,862
but he's gonna be blocked
1382
01:28:45,946 --> 01:28:49,450
"and he has been
and Manse" holds the lead. Great stuff.
1383
01:28:52,035 --> 01:28:54,663
Nigel Mansell exits the last corner,
1384
01:28:54,746 --> 01:28:58,376
"crosses the line
and Manse" is the winner.
1385
01:28:58,458 --> 01:29:01,462
Great stuff. Wonderful drive.
1386
01:29:01,545 --> 01:29:04,094
[crowd cheers]
1387
01:29:04,172 --> 01:29:07,927
Nigel has broken his back,
he's broken his neck,
1388
01:29:08,009 --> 01:29:11,513
he is now number one
in the world championship
1389
01:29:11,596 --> 01:29:13,690
and just listen to the crowd.
1390
01:29:13,765 --> 01:29:19,488
[crowd cheers and applauds]
1391
01:29:20,981 --> 01:29:24,451
[Peter]
After the race it wasn't normal
1392
01:29:24,526 --> 01:29:28,247
for a team manager
or team representative
1393
01:29:28,321 --> 01:29:31,416
to be on the podium,
but on this occasion,
1394
01:29:31,491 --> 01:29:36,167
because Frank had been there
for the test and because it was Nigel
1395
01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:40,592
and because it was Brands Hatch,
Ginny was invited up,
1396
01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:45,343
to take the Constructor's Trophy
on behalf of Frank.
1397
01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:48,259
[Murray Walker]
Now behind Alain Prost,
1398
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:50,394
the woman is Ginny Williams.
1399
01:29:50,468 --> 01:29:52,108
You'll just see her in a minute I expect.
1400
01:29:52,137 --> 01:29:55,562
There's Ginny Williams and,
and Patrick Head,
1401
01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:01,113
the designer of the
winning Williams car. Oh what a day.
1402
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:04,566
[commentator] And there
is Ginny holding up the trophy.
1403
01:30:06,818 --> 01:30:09,714
[Peter] To me, that photograph is one
of my favourite photographs of Ginny
1404
01:30:09,738 --> 01:30:13,618
because she's got this expression
on her face where it's just like, yes!
1405
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:18,288
[Nigel] It was a tremendous moment
1406
01:30:18,371 --> 01:30:20,465
because of what
Ginny had gone through,
1407
01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:22,759
because the accident
just didn't happen to Frank,
1408
01:30:22,834 --> 01:30:24,381
it happened to everybody
1409
01:30:24,461 --> 01:30:27,214
but the closest person it happened to
was his dear wife.
1410
01:30:42,437 --> 01:30:43,437
Hi Preston.
1411
01:30:53,198 --> 01:30:54,791
How we doing
there Jimmy Jock the Noo?
1412
01:30:54,866 --> 01:30:55,927
[Jimmy] Alright thanks Frank.
1413
01:30:55,951 --> 01:30:59,956
Is Biggles under control is he?
Very hard work isn't it?
1414
01:31:00,038 --> 01:31:04,714
[Frank speaking Italian]
1415
01:31:05,835 --> 01:31:08,554
And the best therapy
Frank ever had
1416
01:31:08,630 --> 01:31:12,635
was being back at his desk with a phone
that Nelson gave him actually,
1417
01:31:12,717 --> 01:31:15,766
which allowed him to
tap numbers on, big numbers on a pad
1418
01:31:15,845 --> 01:31:18,644
and he had a headset on,
make his own phone calls.
1419
01:31:20,141 --> 01:31:22,519
Mentally he said,
1420
01:31:22,602 --> 01:31:25,981
“So long as I'm on the phone, so long as
I can talk, I'm going motor racing.”
1421
01:31:28,191 --> 01:31:34,619
Basil Hill Road
[Speaking Italian]
1422
01:31:34,698 --> 01:31:41,297
[background angelic singing]
1423
01:31:45,250 --> 01:31:49,346
[interviewer] Mentally, how do you think
the disability has affected Frank?
1424
01:31:49,421 --> 01:31:51,232
[Michael Waldher]
I did ask, ask him a couple of times
1425
01:31:51,256 --> 01:31:53,099
when we,
when we are alone in the car if,
1426
01:31:53,174 --> 01:31:57,850
if he sometimes thinks of running again
and stuff like that
1427
01:31:57,929 --> 01:32:00,808
but he said he gave
that thought up completely now,
1428
01:32:00,890 --> 01:32:03,939
he is completely in peace
with the situation
1429
01:32:04,019 --> 01:32:05,746
and I think this is also
what you get from him,
1430
01:32:05,770 --> 01:32:09,240
he's not sitting there and thinks
"Oh shit I should have, I should have,
1431
01:32:09,315 --> 01:32:10,532
just got on with it."
1432
01:32:12,402 --> 01:32:14,279
[Frank] I can truthfully,
and I'm not bragging,
1433
01:32:14,362 --> 01:32:15,673
I had a major business on my mind,
1434
01:32:15,697 --> 01:32:18,325
a racing team,
it's like having a hard-on all your life?
1435
01:32:18,408 --> 01:32:19,885
[interviewer] It's like having
a hard-on all your life?
1436
01:32:19,909 --> 01:32:21,752
Aren't you jealous of what I do?
1437
01:32:21,828 --> 01:32:24,206
Running a Grand Prix team,
owning a Grand Prix team,
1438
01:32:24,289 --> 01:32:27,964
I run racing cars
and world famous drivers all of the time,
1439
01:32:28,043 --> 01:32:29,920
it's, I think it's a great privilege.
1440
01:32:36,134 --> 01:32:38,094
[Claire] You know
it's Jamie's birthday today dad?
1441
01:32:41,056 --> 01:32:43,256
Dad you need to choose
which cards you want to give him.
1442
01:32:45,477 --> 01:32:48,196
[Frank] Is he about 28?
1443
01:32:48,271 --> 01:32:50,694
[Claire] He's about 32
actually, dad now, yeah.
1444
01:32:54,694 --> 01:32:56,788
- [Frank] That's my signature.
- [Claire laughs].
1445
01:32:56,863 --> 01:32:58,615
[Frank] It's a bit drunkard but...
1446
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:06,131
Jamie, you write that, Jamie.
1447
01:33:06,206 --> 01:33:09,210
So dad always gives us money
for birthdays, all the time.
1448
01:33:09,292 --> 01:33:10,589
Am I giving some money.
1449
01:33:10,668 --> 01:33:12,396
[Claire] You're giving him money,
I've organised it.
1450
01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:13,856
- [Frank] Oh.
- [Claire] So dad had his way,
1451
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,133
because he has no idea how,
the value of money anymore,
1452
01:33:16,216 --> 01:33:19,390
because he hasn't been
into a shop for about 45 years,
1453
01:33:19,469 --> 01:33:22,643
he would give us all 50p
so we have to do it for him.
1454
01:33:22,722 --> 01:33:24,565
[Frank] That, Claire,
that's absolutely untrue.
1455
01:33:24,641 --> 01:33:27,328
It is true, but you don't really know
what things cost anymore do you?
1456
01:33:27,352 --> 01:33:28,194
Not really no.
1457
01:33:28,269 --> 01:33:31,523
[Claire] So how much does
a newspaper cost?
1458
01:33:31,606 --> 01:33:33,779
Um up to 15 pence.
1459
01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:36,281
[Claire] 15 pence? [Laughs]
1460
01:33:43,243 --> 01:33:45,746
[team applauds]
1461
01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:50,000
[fireworks explode]
1462
01:33:50,083 --> 01:33:54,133
[crowd applauds]
1463
01:33:54,212 --> 01:33:55,964
[Claire]
I personally just wanted to say,
1464
01:33:56,047 --> 01:33:59,472
along with, I know my dad,
just thank you so much for all
1465
01:33:59,551 --> 01:34:01,724
the work that you've done
so far this year.
1466
01:34:01,803 --> 01:34:05,023
I know it's been a really, really
long season for everybody.
1467
01:34:05,098 --> 01:34:07,100
I know maybe there's
a little bit of disappointment
1468
01:34:07,183 --> 01:34:08,983
that we weren't
a little bit better this year,
1469
01:34:09,018 --> 01:34:12,613
but I think everybody needs
to really remember where we came from,
1470
01:34:12,689 --> 01:34:15,613
and it's only been two years since
we were ninth in the championship.
1471
01:34:15,692 --> 01:34:21,699
[team applauds]
1472
01:34:21,739 --> 01:34:22,883
[Lyndon Swainston]
When Williams were third
1473
01:34:22,907 --> 01:34:24,534
in the championship in Abu Dhabi
1474
01:34:24,617 --> 01:34:27,336
I went into the garage
at the end of the race
1475
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:28,664
and I stood at the back
1476
01:34:28,746 --> 01:34:31,374
until all the TV cameras
had finished with Claire
1477
01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:34,131
and I said I think mum's in here
1478
01:34:34,210 --> 01:34:37,214
and she's watching over you
and she's thrilled.
1479
01:34:40,258 --> 01:34:41,054
[Claire] I was just saying to dad,
1480
01:34:41,134 --> 01:34:43,011
it feels like forever
since she's been gone,
1481
01:34:44,721 --> 01:34:46,949
I think Mum would've been
a brilliant Team Principal you know,
1482
01:34:46,973 --> 01:34:51,570
I think she would've been probably the
best Team Principal.
1483
01:34:51,644 --> 01:34:53,612
Formula 1 had ever seen
if you'd just let her,
1484
01:34:55,315 --> 01:34:57,989
I think secretly she
would've quite liked to have been TP.
1485
01:35:17,212 --> 01:35:21,718
[Jamie] Virginia was diagnosed
with cancer in the summer of 2010,
1486
01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:25,436
I think she knew in her
heart of hearts that
1487
01:35:25,511 --> 01:35:28,481
it was gonna get her and it
was just a question of when.
1488
01:35:31,309 --> 01:35:34,279
[Frank Dernie] She was sort of taken
for granted in as much as you know
1489
01:35:34,354 --> 01:35:37,324
she was hail, hearty and fit
and well, and Frank wasn't
1490
01:35:37,398 --> 01:35:39,241
so it was not in anyone's mind I guess
1491
01:35:39,317 --> 01:35:43,447
that she was as vulnerable
as she obviously was.
1492
01:35:46,574 --> 01:35:48,414
[Dave Brodie] I miss her,
she was a lovely lady
1493
01:35:49,661 --> 01:35:53,086
and I don't know how Frank copes
without her because
1494
01:35:53,164 --> 01:35:55,604
he doesn't have a lot of people
to go home to talk to anymore,
1495
01:35:56,751 --> 01:35:58,003
it's quite sad really.
1496
01:36:01,214 --> 01:36:04,514
[Jamie] I think it affected him
very deeply um,
1497
01:36:04,592 --> 01:36:07,436
more deeply possibly
than he would've imagined
1498
01:36:07,512 --> 01:36:13,019
and I think that he probably came
after her death to realise
1499
01:36:13,101 --> 01:36:14,899
just how much he loved her.
1500
01:36:16,187 --> 01:36:17,747
[Frank Dernie]
She was the foundation of.
1501
01:36:17,814 --> 01:36:19,441
Frank's life outside motor racing,
1502
01:36:19,524 --> 01:36:22,824
it was the only thing
you know and uh... he did say,
1503
01:36:22,860 --> 01:36:25,864
“I'm not bothering to go home anymore",
now Ginny's gone.
1504
01:36:25,947 --> 01:36:27,627
He'd just sleep
in his flat in the factory,
1505
01:36:27,657 --> 01:36:30,206
he didn't bother to go home,
why bother'?
1506
01:36:33,162 --> 01:36:35,836
I, I kip down the corridor
most nights of the week.
1507
01:36:39,210 --> 01:36:40,006
Um...
1508
01:36:40,086 --> 01:36:41,397
[interviewer] Down the corridor
in the factory?
1509
01:36:41,421 --> 01:36:42,421
Yeah.
1510
01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:00,916
- [Claire] How are you?
- [Frank] Good actually.
1511
01:37:00,940 --> 01:37:02,692
[Claire] Good.
1512
01:37:02,775 --> 01:37:06,075
It's lovely and warm in here for you Dad.
I turned the heating up.
1513
01:37:10,616 --> 01:37:12,136
You haven't read
the book, have you, pops?
1514
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,413
[Frank] No, I must make
the effort, so, yeah.
1515
01:37:14,495 --> 01:37:17,795
You should, you should make
the effort, it's an amazing book.
1516
01:37:17,874 --> 01:37:20,468
- So you must read it.
- Yeah I will, yeah ok.
1517
01:37:20,501 --> 01:37:24,631
[Claire] You should do,
although it is quite sad, it is quite sad.
1518
01:37:26,966 --> 01:37:30,345
'Sometimes I dream that Frank
is running through the Berkshire lanes.
1519
01:37:30,428 --> 01:37:31,429
Everything is alright.
1520
01:37:33,181 --> 01:37:36,401
Early in the morning in that split second
between sleeping and waking
1521
01:37:36,476 --> 01:37:39,480
I sometimes forget,
as one might forget what day it is,
1522
01:37:39,562 --> 01:37:41,439
that Frank is paralysed
1523
01:37:41,522 --> 01:37:44,071
then the knife blade of
reality twists sharply in my stomach,
1524
01:37:44,150 --> 01:37:45,743
jerking me back to the present,
1525
01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:49,322
how must Frank feel in that
same moment of semi-consciousness?
1526
01:37:49,405 --> 01:37:52,375
What a nightmare to wake up to,
to be a prisoner within your own body,
1527
01:37:52,450 --> 01:37:55,374
not even to be able to get out of bed
until someone else moves you.
1528
01:37:56,913 --> 01:37:58,290
Frank also dreams,
1529
01:37:58,373 --> 01:38:00,671
he says that usually in his
dreams too he is running,
1530
01:38:00,750 --> 01:38:02,878
he has made a magical recovery
1531
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,930
and everyone is astonished
to see him return to fitness
1532
01:38:06,005 --> 01:38:08,133
and turns to watch
as he races past them.'
1533
01:38:09,467 --> 01:38:12,596
'We are and always have been two
quite different characters,
1534
01:38:12,678 --> 01:38:15,352
Frank has never wasted
his time bemoaning the past,
1535
01:38:16,349 --> 01:38:19,353
it's one of his many strengths, the
past means nothing to him,
1536
01:38:19,435 --> 01:38:21,984
whether it's a
world championship won or lost,
1537
01:38:22,021 --> 01:38:23,989
or a road
accident that crippled him,
1538
01:38:24,065 --> 01:38:27,410
it's yesterday, it's boring,
today and tomorrow are what count.
1539
01:38:27,485 --> 01:38:29,988
I in contrast am happiest with the past,
1540
01:38:30,071 --> 01:38:33,416
I prefer the past to the future
that frightens me now.
1541
01:38:33,491 --> 01:38:36,210
What happened to my dreams?
I wanted us to grow old together,
1542
01:38:36,285 --> 01:38:40,290
I wanted to die in Frank's arms,
I'm gonna start crying.
1543
01:38:48,131 --> 01:38:50,475
'We have both grown
as a result of the experience,
1544
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:53,099
but if a fairy godmother offered to
wave her magic wand
1545
01:38:53,177 --> 01:38:56,602
and take us back to the way things
were when I first married Frank,
1546
01:38:56,681 --> 01:39:01,061
I would not hesitate for a second,
I would happily exchange the houses,
1547
01:39:01,102 --> 01:39:04,481
the executive jets,
the smart hotel rooms, the gold Rolexes
1548
01:39:04,564 --> 01:39:07,283
forjust one night in a scruffy bedroom
anywhere in the world
1549
01:39:07,358 --> 01:39:13,081
with a selfish, funny, unsympathetic,
unreliable, charismatic man I married.
1550
01:39:16,701 --> 01:39:21,457
I laugh much more than I used to,
it helps to stop me crying.'
1551
01:39:21,539 --> 01:39:23,507
[Frank] Mm.
1552
01:39:23,541 --> 01:39:25,541
- [Claire] It's so sad.
- [Frank] Don't start crying.
1553
01:39:26,252 --> 01:39:27,344
Mm.
1554
01:39:31,883 --> 01:39:33,851
[Claire] I haven't read it since mum died
1555
01:39:33,926 --> 01:39:36,896
and it's about how she will go
to her grave heart broken
1556
01:39:36,971 --> 01:39:38,769
over what happened to you.
1557
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:45,772
You should be very proud.
1558
01:39:54,572 --> 01:40:01,251
[background music]
1559
01:40:37,615 --> 01:40:39,413
[interviewer]
What about going to the races?
1560
01:40:39,492 --> 01:40:42,621
Do you think you'll still be able
to go to the Grand Prix's this year?
1561
01:40:43,829 --> 01:40:44,830
Why not?
1562
01:40:46,332 --> 01:40:47,852
[interviewer]
I dunno, doctor's orders?
1563
01:40:49,877 --> 01:40:51,129
I'm fine.
1564
01:40:51,212 --> 01:40:54,056
I mean I'm paralysed but I'm,
I probably, I spend,
1565
01:40:54,131 --> 01:40:55,234
I haven't had a day off work,
1566
01:40:55,258 --> 01:40:56,401
I don't think
I've had a day off work in years,
1567
01:40:56,425 --> 01:40:58,974
I just don't get ill, never have done.
1568
01:41:01,430 --> 01:41:03,158
[Frank Dernie]
Frank's personality hasn't changed,
1569
01:41:03,182 --> 01:41:05,150
what he can physically do has,
1570
01:41:05,226 --> 01:41:08,355
but his approach to his racing,
his love of Formula 1,
1571
01:41:08,437 --> 01:41:10,940
his obsession with it
is just the same now,
1572
01:41:11,023 --> 01:41:12,650
as it has been as long
as I've known him.
1573
01:41:16,028 --> 01:41:17,948
[interviewer] So how does
a man like that retire?
1574
01:41:18,447 --> 01:41:19,633
[Franke Dernie]
He's not going to retire,
1575
01:41:19,657 --> 01:41:20,817
he's going to die on the job.
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[Michael] Well Frank will never stop.
[laughs]
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Yeah he will stop
when he closes his eyes.
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[car revs]
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[interviewer] Do you think you'll see
Williams on top again,
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in your lifetime?
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[Frank makes noises]
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Yes, certainly possible.
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