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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,557 --> 00:00:12,557 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:15,557 --> 00:00:17,594 This is your good neighbour along the way, 3 00:00:17,768 --> 00:00:20,226 broadcasting across the land from XERF 4 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:23,137 in Ciudad Acuña, Coahuila, Mexico. 5 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,687 I've known these guys for a long time. 6 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:15,731 If you look around 7 00:01:15,909 --> 00:01:19,743 the whole spectrum of the rock 'n' roll world, 8 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:21,449 there's only one of them. 9 00:01:22,124 --> 00:01:24,035 They're unique, they're eccentric. 10 00:01:24,209 --> 00:01:26,075 Okay, guys, tell me. 11 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:28,119 ZZ Top, how did you come up with a name like that? 12 00:01:28,297 --> 00:01:31,164 We will tell three stories about it. 13 00:01:31,341 --> 00:01:32,923 But none of them will be true. 14 00:01:34,344 --> 00:01:36,711 When you'd see them onstage, it was like, 15 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:38,174 "Wow, there they are." 16 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:44,348 It was like seeing Bugs Bunny in person. 17 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:14,339 I think the mystique of the band 18 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:16,375 is what brought me to them. 19 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:19,636 The look of a beard like that. 20 00:02:19,806 --> 00:02:21,262 What's the rest of your face like? 21 00:02:27,022 --> 00:02:28,387 All these videos, all the stuff, 22 00:02:28,565 --> 00:02:29,805 it only added to the mystery. 23 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:31,974 'Eliminator', where the car is everywhere. 24 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:34,188 You don't see who's inside. 25 00:02:35,197 --> 00:02:37,234 These choreographed moves, 26 00:02:37,449 --> 00:02:40,737 it all keeps you from really knowing who they really are. 27 00:02:48,752 --> 00:02:53,212 Even their sound had a mysterious quality to it. 28 00:02:53,632 --> 00:02:56,624 I don't think you can put your finger on what it is. 29 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,760 It's easy to say it's based on the blues 30 00:02:59,930 --> 00:03:02,137 and all that kind of thing, 31 00:03:02,307 --> 00:03:05,049 but I think it's got something else in it. 32 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:09,725 But they may not even have an explanation for it. 33 00:05:06,515 --> 00:05:10,258 Really if you wanna know where everything came from, 34 00:05:10,435 --> 00:05:12,051 you have to go back to the beginning. 35 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:15,804 I'm a huge Elvis fan, always have been. 36 00:05:15,982 --> 00:05:18,974 This is actually like a blanket-type thing. 37 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:23,316 So, I have Elvis things all over the house and all over. 38 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:25,401 I used to carry so much on the road 39 00:05:25,575 --> 00:05:27,566 that I started getting a separate dressing room 40 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,951 and it started becoming a little strange. 41 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,869 When I was a kid, my mother was a waitress. 42 00:05:35,043 --> 00:05:37,410 And Elvis used to come into where she worked. 43 00:05:37,587 --> 00:05:40,625 He was not that well known outside of Memphis at that time. 44 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:42,881 Anyway, he had a record that was on the jukebox. 45 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:45,543 She brought it back with her when we moved back to Dallas. 46 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,427 And I used to sing to it. 47 00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:54,344 The first time I got money for singing a song, I was 8. 48 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:56,728 My brother, Rocky, two and a half years older, 49 00:05:57,315 --> 00:05:59,022 he and I sang a song one time 50 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:01,900 and there was a table right here beside me 51 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,987 and people started throwing change on that table, 52 00:06:05,156 --> 00:06:06,396 at least quarters. 53 00:06:06,575 --> 00:06:07,781 So, we were singing, 54 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:10,033 the guitar player was playing the guitar lead. 55 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:11,910 I leaned down to my mother, I said, "What is that?" 56 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,286 She went, "That's for you." 57 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:15,572 So, I stopped singing and started raking the money in. 58 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:27,960 I don't know what Compton's like, 59 00:06:28,138 --> 00:06:30,470 I don't know what Harlem's like, I've never lived there. 60 00:06:30,682 --> 00:06:33,014 But I can remember walking down the street 61 00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:35,676 where I lived in Dallas, 62 00:06:35,854 --> 00:06:41,065 I was singing cos I didn't wanna really look at the surroundings 63 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:43,771 and I didn't want to smell the air. 64 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:47,233 I didn't want to hear what was going on, so I would sing. 65 00:06:47,616 --> 00:06:50,358 You had to know how to work your way around that neighbourhood. 66 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:52,909 You did and didn't do certain things, 67 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:55,366 so you don't walk around singing or dancing. 68 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:58,407 You're liable to limp out, 69 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:02,499 and playing in a rock band gives you instant cred. 70 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:15,508 Anyway, I don't really remember how exactly it happened, 71 00:07:15,685 --> 00:07:17,426 we were still playing this one beer joint, 72 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:20,016 and my brother played guitar and I sang. 73 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:23,566 We decided, "We need a bass, this is stupid." 74 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:24,975 I went, "OK, well..." 75 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:26,643 I thought he was talking about hiring somebody 76 00:07:26,821 --> 00:07:27,982 but he went, "No, you're it." 77 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:43,126 This is a group called Lady Wilde and the Warlocks. 78 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,630 This is about '64, so I guess I was about 15. 79 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:49,212 That's my brother, Rocky. That's me. 80 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:52,211 The girl was actually from England. 81 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:53,925 She'd married a soldier. 82 00:07:54,099 --> 00:07:55,305 And that was Lady Wilde. 83 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:58,008 And in '64 in Dallas, 84 00:07:58,186 --> 00:08:00,723 if you had someone from England in your band, 85 00:08:00,897 --> 00:08:02,638 that was it, you got bookings. 86 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:05,683 But this was a club, the Disc a Gogo 87 00:08:05,860 --> 00:08:07,817 and we were the entertainment, 88 00:08:07,988 --> 00:08:11,071 but our drummer, at the time, was quitting the business. 89 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:13,824 So, my brother came up to me and pointed at Frank 90 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:16,531 who was playing with another group, they were onstage. 91 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:18,912 He went, "He's going to be our new drummer." 92 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:20,080 And I went... 93 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:22,833 I looked at him, he had on loafers and white socks 94 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,119 and I went, "I don't think so." 95 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:27,708 He went, "No, you don't understand. I'm not asking you. 96 00:08:27,882 --> 00:08:29,043 That's going to be our drummer." 97 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:38,633 I was 15, and had a high school band, 98 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:42,098 played some frat parties, did this, that, and the other. 99 00:08:42,272 --> 00:08:44,684 And finally, we got a job 100 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:48,192 playing at The Cellar club on Friday night and Saturday night, 101 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:49,851 in Fort Worth, Texas. 102 00:08:50,071 --> 00:08:52,403 We were going to play from 8 till 12, 103 00:08:52,574 --> 00:08:55,942 and then, the headline act was going to come in at 12. 104 00:08:56,870 --> 00:09:00,738 So, we went out, and we played and when we were through, 105 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:03,407 The Warlocks came in. 106 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:17,551 Dusty and Rocky had on matching blue sharkskin suits, 107 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:21,722 and Banlon socks like the blues players wear, 108 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:25,684 and I noticed that Dusty's fingernails were manicured. 109 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:30,400 My God, these guys are right one step below the Beatles. 110 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:31,856 I mean, they were just... 111 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:34,442 I only owned white socks at the time, 112 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:37,449 I was a complete rube. 113 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:41,828 Anyway, I watched The Warlocks that night, 114 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:44,035 came back for the Saturday night show, 115 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:46,792 and they walked up and offered me a job, playing with them. 116 00:09:48,713 --> 00:09:51,626 That's when I met Dusty. 117 00:10:02,852 --> 00:10:06,937 I enjoyed playing with Frank the second we hit a note, 118 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:08,643 it was just really cool. 119 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:12,355 When we played together, we had a way of interacting 120 00:10:12,529 --> 00:10:15,191 that had an identifiable sound to it. 121 00:10:15,657 --> 00:10:18,820 And him and I, we locked so in on that 122 00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:21,155 and that was a great step forward for us. 123 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:34,457 When Frank joined the band, all this music was going on. 124 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,545 And now there's a lot of bands circulating, 125 00:10:36,719 --> 00:10:38,130 so a lot of competition. 126 00:10:38,596 --> 00:10:41,008 So, we wanted to come up with something different. 127 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:43,007 People started to get long hair, 128 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:46,097 which was dangerous in Texas at the time, but still... 129 00:10:46,729 --> 00:10:48,219 So we went, "You know, 130 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:53,187 let's dye it blue and call ourselves American Blues. 131 00:10:54,404 --> 00:10:58,113 So, I not only have long hair, in the 603 in Texas, 132 00:10:58,283 --> 00:10:59,648 I've got long blue hair. 133 00:10:59,826 --> 00:11:01,692 I think people thought I was nuts. 134 00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:05,620 Anyway, the American Blues lasted quite a while 135 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:07,747 but, eventually, it was like 136 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:09,658 we played ourselves out of the market. 137 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:12,168 Everybody in town had heard us. 138 00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:15,706 And I thought, "I can't just keep just doing this. 139 00:11:15,925 --> 00:11:18,383 I'm just going round and round and round." 140 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:21,090 And I just went, "You know what? I've had enough." 141 00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:24,260 I lost track of Dusty, 142 00:11:24,434 --> 00:11:26,846 and then my girlfriend got pregnant 143 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:28,886 and I had to get married. 144 00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:33,394 So I'm married and got a baby and living in my parents' house. 145 00:11:33,568 --> 00:11:37,277 I was selling a little pot, too, to make ends meet. 146 00:11:37,447 --> 00:11:39,358 Plus, I started taking acid. 147 00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:42,115 So, my life was changing. 148 00:11:47,248 --> 00:11:52,664 I packed up my drums, my wife and my baby, and left home. 149 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:57,081 It was 3 Norman Rockwell scene. 150 00:11:57,258 --> 00:12:00,000 I mean, Mum's crying, Dad's pissed off, 151 00:12:00,178 --> 00:12:02,465 and I'm loading shit in the car, you know. 152 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:05,427 I mean, it was a sitcom. 153 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:13,972 Anyway, we drove down to Houston. 154 00:12:21,324 --> 00:12:24,658 They had an entirely different scene in Houston 155 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:26,488 than they did in Dallas. 156 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:31,373 One of the big bands of Houston were Moving Sidewalks. 157 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:33,078 And when we came down, 158 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:36,621 that's when I started hearing about a guy named Billy Gibbons. 159 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:47,381 I'd also heard his song on the radio, 160 00:12:47,558 --> 00:12:49,469 so I knew who he was. 161 00:12:49,644 --> 00:12:52,432 And I just had to meet this guy 162 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,642 because, man, what a guitar player. 163 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:57,274 I mean, he tore up guitar strings. 164 00:12:57,443 --> 00:12:59,650 He was wonderful. 165 00:12:59,821 --> 00:13:01,858 I mean, he could really, really play. 166 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,467 I grew up in Houston, 167 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:28,471 and Houston was always a hotbed of musical talent 168 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,682 from the blues perspective. 169 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:33,802 But, by the mid-605, 170 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:36,893 as the times began to change, so did the music. 171 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:43,479 All of a sudden, there was a group that showed up 172 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,863 called The 13th Floor Elevators. 173 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:04,258 The 13th Floor Elevators embraced the term psychedelic 174 00:14:04,427 --> 00:14:06,134 to describe what they were doing. 175 00:14:07,138 --> 00:14:09,846 They had a message, they had a mission, 176 00:14:10,224 --> 00:14:12,841 and it was runaway insane. 177 00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:15,097 No one had seen anything like it. 178 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:25,108 This one guy even played this crock jug 179 00:14:25,281 --> 00:14:27,739 which made this gurgling, bubbling sound. 180 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,408 They called it the electric jug. 181 00:14:35,166 --> 00:14:37,908 So, The 13th Floor Elevators were having an impact 182 00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:39,747 on the whole Texas music scene. 183 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:43,543 And as our way of acknowledging the impact, 184 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:45,548 I said, "Gee whiz, let's see. 185 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:50,303 Elevators go up, we should be the Moving Sidewalks 186 00:14:50,473 --> 00:14:51,804 'cause that goes forward." 187 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:54,011 So, it was forward and up. 188 00:15:07,365 --> 00:15:10,073 We'd written this song, the '99th Floor' 189 00:15:10,701 --> 00:15:13,033 which became a well-received single 190 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,445 and it put us on the map. 191 00:15:15,623 --> 00:15:19,708 We got signed, we toured with Eric Burdon and the Animals, 192 00:15:19,877 --> 00:15:21,493 The Jeff Beck Group. 193 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:23,749 And we even landed some dates 194 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:26,130 with Jim Morrison and the Doors. 195 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:31,091 And there was this promoter at the time, who said, 196 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:34,843 "There's this act that wants you to join the tour. 197 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:37,099 It's a guy by the name of Jimi Hendrix, 198 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,807 he's got this band, The Jimi Hendrix Experience." 199 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:42,939 And I said, "Yeah, Jimi Hendrix, that's crazy." 200 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:52,274 They wanted us to play 40 minutes of material, 201 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,113 and the only way we could do 40 minutes 202 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,904 was to include two songs 203 00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:59,493 that we had learned from the Jimi Hendrix record. 204 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:01,533 'Foxy Lady' and 'Purple Haze'. 205 00:16:01,752 --> 00:16:04,995 I'll never forget the opening night, we played 'Foxy Lady' 206 00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:07,210 and we were going into the intro to 'Purple Haze' 207 00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:09,795 and I happened to look over on the side of the stage, 208 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,926 and there in the shadows was Jimi Hendrix 209 00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,882 with his arms folded, grinning. 210 00:16:14,765 --> 00:16:16,972 And we came offstage and he said, 211 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:19,350 "I like you, you've got a lot of nerve." 212 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,446 This was 1968, 213 00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:42,037 and at the conclusion of the Jimi Hendrix Experience tour, 214 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:45,748 two members of The Sidewalks were drafted. 215 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:49,957 However, we still wanted to carry on. 216 00:16:50,134 --> 00:16:53,172 So, having learned the power of the trio 217 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:56,088 from working with The Jimi Hendrix Experience, 218 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:59,929 we decided that we could probably do it as a trio. 219 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:04,146 Then we decided to rename it. 220 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:09,809 We had an apartment, 221 00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:12,069 and across the wall we had collected 222 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,447 all the posters of blues players. 223 00:17:14,617 --> 00:17:19,953 We noticed there was this recurrence of a BB. King, 224 00:17:20,456 --> 00:17:23,790 D.C. Bender, ZZ. Hill. 225 00:17:24,627 --> 00:17:27,745 And we said, "Yeah, let's take the 'Z.Z.' from this end, 226 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:31,290 and let's take 'King' down at this end." 227 00:17:31,509 --> 00:17:34,718 So, initially it was ZZ King. 228 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:38,673 I said, "No, the 'King' is at the top." 229 00:17:38,849 --> 00:17:40,931 I said, "How about ZZ Top?" 230 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:53,899 Shortly after, we cut a single, but we needed a manager. 231 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:58,741 I remember playing a show 232 00:17:58,953 --> 00:18:01,695 and Bill Ham showed up backstage 233 00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:04,990 with a good friend of ours and he introduced us, 234 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,078 he said, "This is my buddie, Bill Ham." 235 00:18:07,253 --> 00:18:11,417 Bill Ham said, "Gee whiz, I like what you guys do, 236 00:18:11,882 --> 00:18:14,169 I'm getting into the management business. 237 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:16,004 Would you guys have an interest 238 00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:19,387 in considering talking about management?" 239 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:21,673 Well, little-known fact, 240 00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:24,764 Bill Ham had been a recording artist back in the 503. 241 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:28,100 He had several singles that became quite popular 242 00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:29,309 way, way back. 243 00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:32,350 So, he knew music, he knew songwriting. 244 00:18:32,528 --> 00:18:36,271 This was not some guy that was just good at sales. 245 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,941 This was a guy that knew creativity. 246 00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:43,328 So, we connected, and he seemed to believe in us. 247 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,908 So, we said, "Let's try." 248 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,459 The next thing you know, the cigars were being passed out, 249 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:51,620 in fine rock 'n' roll fashion. 250 00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:53,379 "Boy, I'm gonna make you a star." 251 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:05,676 So, ZZ Top is up and running as an organ trio, 252 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:08,720 and that lasted for a while. 253 00:19:08,898 --> 00:19:13,187 But our fair organists wound up auditioning to take the part 254 00:19:13,361 --> 00:19:17,446 for a new TV show that was being pitched called Mork & Mindy. 255 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:22,276 He had other aspirations, as did our drummer. 256 00:19:23,287 --> 00:19:25,528 I didn't wanna be a solo act, 257 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:29,165 and that's when, lo and behold, 258 00:19:31,671 --> 00:19:33,958 Frank Beard showed up. 259 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:41,636 When I drove down to Houston, 260 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:43,171 I hunted all over the place, 261 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,181 found Billy Gibbons, made him go... 262 00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:46,807 I mean, just threatened him, 263 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:50,015 made him go to the rehearsal studio and we jammed. 264 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:52,100 I was jacked up on speed. 265 00:19:52,274 --> 00:19:54,481 I made him jam for about eight hours 266 00:19:54,652 --> 00:19:56,313 until his tongue just fell out. 267 00:20:04,412 --> 00:20:07,905 It didn't take 30 minutes, it didn't take 30 seconds. 268 00:20:08,082 --> 00:20:12,667 I knew that Frank Beard had the kind of chops I was looking for. 269 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:17,710 He played fiercely, he played with determination, 270 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:20,542 and I decided... 271 00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:27,595 enter Frank Beard as the new drummer for ZZ Top. 272 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:38,943 At the conclusion of this jam session with Frank on drums, 273 00:20:39,113 --> 00:20:41,195 he said, "By the way, I know a bass player 274 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,026 that would really round this out. 275 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,656 I've got a guy named Dusty." 276 00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:48,912 Next thing you know, we're in another jam session. 277 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:54,747 Now the new face is Dusty Hill, playing the four-string bass. 278 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,038 We started it off, I said "Well, let's do a shuffle in C." 279 00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:01,833 That's about as straight ahead as it goes. 280 00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,418 I'll join you here. 281 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:35,916 'Shuffle in C', 282 00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:39,378 yeah, it wasn't a real song, it was just shuffle in C. 283 00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:43,800 And I'm serious, that song lasted for a long time. 284 00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:47,049 And it was just really cool. 285 00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:50,382 Everybody was just like, "Whoa." 286 00:21:51,602 --> 00:21:53,593 Once Dusty took the stage, 287 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:55,645 something magical occurred, 288 00:21:56,357 --> 00:21:59,691 and that first shuffle in C 289 00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:04,024 lasted for three solid, uninterrupted hours. 290 00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:09,067 At the end, we pulled it to the curb, and I said, 291 00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:11,612 "You know what? I think this is going to work." 292 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,831 And that's really the genesis which led up 293 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,413 to the trio that you now know today as ZZ Top. 294 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,442 The first order of business for us 295 00:23:28,657 --> 00:23:31,445 was getting ten great songs together. 296 00:23:32,369 --> 00:23:36,738 And at that time, I guess we had been in the woodshed 297 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:40,454 for maybe, four or five months' time, 298 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,912 working it out, getting the arrangements built up. 299 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:47,465 And then, taking off for the recording studio. 300 00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:55,006 When we first went to record our first album, 301 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,717 we probably had been together six months. 302 00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:02,097 We were ready to do a rock 'n' roll album, go in the studio. 303 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,316 Next thing I know, we're driving to Tyler, Texas. 304 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:23,663 Tyler is just supposed to be the Rose Capital of Texas. 305 00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:26,128 Well-deserved, beautiful flowers. 306 00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:28,289 But anyway, we pull up, 307 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:30,458 and I didn't know what the deal was 308 00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:33,219 because the studio was a house. 309 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:37,757 I don't know if it used to be a garage, 310 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:40,302 or if it was just built on the side of house. 311 00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,271 But in the back of the control room there was a door 312 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,147 that led into the house. 313 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:49,311 Everything was nice and neat, doilies on the chairs, 314 00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,482 it reminded me of my grandmother's house. 315 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:55,317 But Robin Hood Brians knew what he was doing. 316 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:56,734 I got a call from Bill Ham. 317 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:59,996 He said, "I've got a group, I want to bring them up, 318 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:01,701 they're called ZZ Top." 319 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:05,163 I said, "OK." So, he booked about three days. 320 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:09,581 And we set up and did two days, maybe three, of recording. 321 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:14,882 Bill Ham, I will say, was smart and really knew music, 322 00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:18,264 and he wanted a bigger sound, something different. 323 00:25:18,434 --> 00:25:21,677 "Well, only one set of drums, one bass and one guitar. 324 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:22,844 What can you do?" 325 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:24,686 We were a three-piece band. 326 00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:28,441 Our favourite bands were Cream and Jimi Hendrix Experience, 327 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,022 so we were going to be in that vein. 328 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,312 Although Billy and Dusty do sing harmony, 329 00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:36,778 we weren't The Hollies by any means, or The Beatles. 330 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,442 We didn't sound like that. 331 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,110 We kept looking for a sound. 332 00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:41,905 I mean, I tried everything I could do. 333 00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:44,203 I put microphones all over the studio, 334 00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:47,585 I had one right on the amp, I put one behind an amp. 335 00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:50,668 I put one in the hallway, I put one up in the ceiling, 336 00:25:50,841 --> 00:25:52,502 I put one out of phase. 337 00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:57,303 So, we kept looking for this bigger, better, different sound. 338 00:25:57,473 --> 00:25:59,214 It was a grand challenge, 339 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:03,514 but Robin Hood could relate to the music we were delivering. 340 00:26:03,854 --> 00:26:05,811 And he had state-of-the-art equipment, 341 00:26:05,981 --> 00:26:08,894 but most importantly, Robin Hood knew how to use it. 342 00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:14,070 And he was hell-bent on getting a good capture. 343 00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:15,274 I kept telling Billy, 344 00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:18,032 "Billy, I did a little trick on a record. 345 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:21,236 Double the guitar, but sort of screw up the tuning 346 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:22,824 on the strings a little bit 347 00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,160 and it gives it that 12-string flow." 348 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:27,662 He said, "No, no, we can't overdub." 349 00:26:28,378 --> 00:26:32,588 Bill Ham made a hard fast rule, "There will be no overdubbing." 350 00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:36,960 I said, "Billy, you pick up the ball when I throw it to you." 351 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,758 So, we worked on sounds and everything 352 00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:41,013 until about 1 o'clock. 353 00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:42,389 I turned to Bill Ham and I said, 354 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,300 "Bill, you've been promising these guys 355 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,810 you're going to get them some ribs from the Country Tavern." 356 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,722 I went over and I winked at Billy, and Billy picked it up. 357 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,732 He says, "Yeah, my man, I can't play me no blues 358 00:26:51,902 --> 00:26:53,893 'til I get me some barbecue." 359 00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:56,403 Bill said, "OK, where is this place?" 360 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,733 The Country Tavern is about 25 miles over there. 361 00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:01,784 It's over across the county line. 362 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:03,994 So, when Bill Ham left, I said, 363 00:27:04,164 --> 00:27:06,952 "Billy, we've got about an hour and 15-20 minutes." 364 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,750 I said, "Record one song, 365 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:12,624 and play the rhythm simple enough that you can double it." 366 00:27:13,006 --> 00:27:13,962 And he did. 367 00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,875 So, then I came out and just messed with the strings 368 00:27:17,052 --> 00:27:19,464 and pulled them, just to get them a little out of tune. 369 00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:22,755 And he doubled it, panned that 45 degrees, 370 00:27:23,684 --> 00:27:24,719 voila! 371 00:27:38,532 --> 00:27:40,148 So, that was the sound, 372 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,067 and when Bill came in with all these ribs, he said, 373 00:27:43,287 --> 00:27:45,619 "Damn, you didn't tell me that place was in the next county!" 374 00:27:45,789 --> 00:27:47,780 And I said, "You know, Bill, we go there so much, 375 00:27:47,958 --> 00:27:50,245 it just seems like across the street to us." 376 00:27:50,878 --> 00:27:53,370 Billy said, "Bill, we've found a sound. 377 00:27:54,298 --> 00:27:55,880 See what you think about this." 378 00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:57,881 He reached over and pushed play. 379 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:03,212 Boy, Bill listened to that and he said, "Yeah, that's it! 380 00:28:04,141 --> 00:28:05,597 That's the sound I want." 381 00:28:54,316 --> 00:28:56,432 How the song 'Brown Sugar' starts, you know. 382 00:28:56,652 --> 00:28:58,142 Man, they told me 383 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,028 It starts out with such a tip of... 384 00:29:01,198 --> 00:29:04,316 It's blues, in a traditional sense. 385 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,780 And then, all of a sudden, it turns into ZZ Top. 386 00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:19,959 It starts here, but it ends somewhere completely different, 387 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:23,296 and that journey with ZZ Top is what's really fascinating. 388 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:38,182 One of the threads that go through all three of us, 389 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,068 we all listened to these same stations, 390 00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:44,230 those X stations out of Mexico, 391 00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:46,740 which were illegal in the States. 392 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,777 But they had a lot of blues programmes: 393 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:57,247 Freddie King, BB. King, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf. 394 00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:01,213 And all three of us, not knowing each other growing up, 395 00:30:01,383 --> 00:30:03,465 had listened to the same shows, 396 00:30:03,885 --> 00:30:05,876 and were heavily influenced by them. 397 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:10,764 Yeah, we loved this stuff, but we also loved rock 'n' roll. 398 00:30:11,351 --> 00:30:15,515 We never said we were a blues band, we've never said that. 399 00:30:15,897 --> 00:30:18,389 We're interpreters of the blues. 400 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,700 They took the licks from the blues, 401 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:35,615 and then they played them rock 'n' roll. 402 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:39,042 They played them with the big amps and the loud drums. 403 00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:43,919 It was the combination of the blues licks, 404 00:30:44,092 --> 00:30:47,505 that unique, overdriven sound from the amps, 405 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:49,929 and the lyric content. 406 00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:56,227 So, ZZ Top plays the blues, but they don't sing the blues. 407 00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:59,475 They turn blues into party music. 408 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:12,511 Word had gotten out that 409 00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:16,015 there was this loud rockin' trio from Houston. 410 00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:21,103 And true enough, we did make for a gangly group of renegades. 411 00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:22,684 It was craziness, 412 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:25,600 but it was all because of the incessant touring. 413 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:27,393 I mean, we never stopped. 414 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:38,278 We were working all we could. 415 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,744 We would play at a roller-skating rink, 416 00:32:40,917 --> 00:32:42,783 and then we would play the next night, 417 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:45,703 say, at a National Guard Armory or something like that. 418 00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:48,168 So, it was like throwing a stone into the water 419 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:51,208 and where we could go, it would grow and grow. 420 00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:54,344 We were playing, frankly, wherever we could, 421 00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:56,638 but we weren't playing the big places. 422 00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,718 I mean, we weren't playing in Dallas, we were playing in Waco, 423 00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:03,561 before the church thing. 424 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:08,025 We weren't really playing even in Austin or San Antonio, 425 00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:10,603 we were playing New Braunfels or something. 426 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:24,204 The early days of ZZ Top were really strange days. 427 00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:29,789 One of the first gigs was rather unusual. 428 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,541 We came down to this place in Alvin, Texas. 429 00:33:32,719 --> 00:33:36,508 We were expecting whatever, hoping for a sell-out. 430 00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:38,388 We'd be happy if it's half full. 431 00:33:38,892 --> 00:33:41,634 This place had a stage and it had curtains, 432 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:43,343 and we're behind the curtain. 433 00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:46,640 And when the curtains opened there was one guy. 434 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:49,149 And he's looking around like, 435 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,151 "Hey, I'm in the wrong place." 436 00:33:51,321 --> 00:33:53,312 He turned around and started to leave, 437 00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:56,152 and we're on the microphone, we go, "Wait, wait a minute. 438 00:33:56,326 --> 00:33:58,863 Stick around, we're gonna play the whole show for you." 439 00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,946 He didn't know what to do, he just stood out there. 440 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,956 We played about an hour. 441 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:06,746 We took a break, 442 00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:11,251 went out and motioned to the guy and bought him a Coke. 443 00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:13,544 Yeah, we bought him a Coke 444 00:34:14,135 --> 00:34:16,422 because we were thankful he stuck around. 445 00:34:16,596 --> 00:34:19,679 Then we played an encore. 446 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:23,759 An encore is supposed to be when they demand to have you back. 447 00:34:24,187 --> 00:34:27,396 Well, we thought, "The kid deserves some more." 448 00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:31,438 That guy still comes around to this day, 449 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,273 and he won't tell us his name. 450 00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:37,781 He just says, "Remember me? I'm the guy." 451 00:34:38,577 --> 00:34:40,614 I said, "Of course we remember you." 452 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,412 In those early days, 453 00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:54,878 even though we were touring around like crazy, 454 00:34:55,051 --> 00:34:57,713 we didn't do interviews, we didn't do TV. 455 00:34:57,887 --> 00:34:59,844 Bill Ham wouldn't let us. 456 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:02,631 If you didn't see us onstage, or hear us on record, 457 00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:04,675 you didn't hear or see us. 458 00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:08,141 We were not to play on anybody else's record, 459 00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:10,272 we were not to do TV shows, 460 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:13,184 we were not to do interviews that weren't approved, 461 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:16,274 we were not allowed to do anything like that. 462 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:20,115 Bill Ham, I think he was very traditionally old school. 463 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,903 He was following the Colonel Tom Parker model, 464 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,822 that was just the accepted thing. 465 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,411 I had to ask every once in a while, 466 00:35:28,585 --> 00:35:30,417 "Hey man, why aren't we doing 467 00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:33,079 Ed Sullivan, Johnny Carson or something?" 468 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:36,253 And he'd go, "Boys, the least they know about you the better." 469 00:35:36,426 --> 00:35:37,666 And I went, "How can that be?" 470 00:35:37,844 --> 00:35:40,506 And he goes, "Well, the word will get around." 471 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,216 I said, "What if it doesn't?" 472 00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:53,683 But the thing is, when we did play a place, 473 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:55,316 nobody had seen us. 474 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,819 People were very intrigued by who we were, 475 00:35:57,989 --> 00:35:58,979 'cause they had no idea. 476 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,239 There was at least one show 477 00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,696 where the mystique thing really paid off, 478 00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:06,111 and that was the Memphis Blues Festival. 479 00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:10,791 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 480 00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:12,959 Memphis is a magical place, 481 00:36:13,463 --> 00:36:15,955 it gave the world a new kind of music. 482 00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:18,715 The Beale Street blues, the Memphis blues, 483 00:36:19,052 --> 00:36:21,089 songs that were to be translated and sung 484 00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:23,173 in every language known to man. 485 00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:29,552 So, this promoter from Memphis, Tennessee called us up 486 00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:31,595 to take part in a blues festival 487 00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:34,561 at the Overton Park bandshell there in Memphis, 488 00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:37,522 which was a miniature version of the Hollywood Bowl. 489 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:42,031 And that was really our first big jump out of the region. 490 00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:45,784 It was full of great blues guys. 491 00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:48,612 Muddy Waters, Freddie King, 492 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:52,328 Albert King, I think, Lightnin' Hopkins, 493 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:58,916 just a whole slew of really great blues guys and us! 494 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,003 The main thing I remember is, 495 00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:05,171 downstairs in the basement, there was a poker game going on. 496 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,882 At that time, we hadn't met Muddy Waters, 497 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:10,971 so, I said to the promoter, 498 00:37:11,146 --> 00:37:14,059 "Man, me and Billy would really love to meet Muddy Waters." 499 00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:16,481 Me and Billy were standing there awkwardly, 500 00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,187 over watching the game, 501 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:20,144 but at one point, he goes, 502 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:22,312 "Hey, Muddy, I want you to meet two friends of mine. 503 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:24,481 This is Dusty and Billy." 504 00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:27,109 And he goes, "Nice to meet ya." 505 00:37:28,371 --> 00:37:31,454 And that's it, man. I mean, that was it. 506 00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:35,913 So, rule of thumb: don't get introduced during a poker game. 507 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,124 Nobody has the time for you. 508 00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:47,504 The blues festival was in full swing, 509 00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:51,391 but the weird thing was that the promoter 510 00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:54,724 had only gotten familiar with ZZ Top having heard the record. 511 00:37:54,898 --> 00:37:57,185 He never bothered to look at the watercolour drawing 512 00:37:57,358 --> 00:38:00,726 on the back of the album cover to realise we were white guys. 513 00:38:01,488 --> 00:38:03,729 So, he shoved us all the way to the end of the show, 514 00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:06,569 thinking everybody would be gone and these white guys 515 00:38:06,743 --> 00:38:09,110 wouldn't interrupt his blues presentation. 516 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:18,995 But sure enough, by the time we hit the stage, 517 00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:21,539 no one had left, it was still packed. 518 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:23,332 Everyone was so into it. 519 00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,878 In fact, halfway through our set, 520 00:38:28,056 --> 00:38:32,471 way in the wee hours of the morning, far after midnight, 521 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:35,602 I'll never forget seeing Furry Lewis 522 00:38:35,772 --> 00:38:38,309 walking onstage, waving a handkerchief 523 00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:40,815 egging us on, "Go on, go on! 524 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:42,976 Play that stuff, play that stuff!" 525 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:54,072 So, it was quite a reward to be part of that scene. 526 00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:57,951 And that's what really started the connection 527 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:00,668 with Texas meets Tennessee. 528 00:39:16,938 --> 00:39:20,556 The next thing that unfolded in Memphis was we learned 529 00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,600 that Led Zeppelin was cutting their third album out there 530 00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:27,066 under the auspices of the great engineering staff 531 00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:30,991 at Ardent Recording Studios, right there on Madison Avenue. 532 00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:33,318 I thought, "Gee whiz, 533 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:35,783 Led Zeppelin here in Memphis, Tennessee?" 534 00:39:36,291 --> 00:39:37,747 That got my attention. 535 00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:41,042 Billy was actually looking for me 536 00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:43,328 because I'd just recently before that, 537 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:47,465 engineered the Led Zeppelin III album, mixed it and mastered it. 538 00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:49,217 And he was saying, "I want to go to Memphis 539 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:51,094 and I want to work with Terry." 540 00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:54,131 The new album had been partly recorded 541 00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,471 at Robin Hood Brians' place in Tyler, 542 00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:59,762 and they wanted to finish it at Ardent Studios, 543 00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:02,518 and get that Zeppelin type of mix sound. 544 00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:06,652 We found ourselves entering Ardent Studios 545 00:40:06,821 --> 00:40:10,439 and those guys created such a powerhouse team. 546 00:40:10,617 --> 00:40:13,826 I mean, they pulled out all the stops, no holds barred. 547 00:40:14,287 --> 00:40:15,118 We dug it. 548 00:40:48,488 --> 00:40:49,523 Those early sessions, 549 00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:52,189 Billy was going for some extra overdrive. 550 00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:08,501 With 'La Grange', he tried to sing distorted. 551 00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:12,212 I remember Billy came in, 552 00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:15,049 he said, "I just don't have it today, I can't do that thing, 553 00:41:15,223 --> 00:41:17,510 we can't do the vocals yet, but give me a few minutes." 554 00:41:17,684 --> 00:41:18,970 I said, "What are you gonna do?" 555 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:22,807 He strips down to everything but his pants, 556 00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:24,221 his trousers and shoes. 557 00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:28,267 This is wintertime, and he runs around this huge block 558 00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,105 three or four times, just... 559 00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:34,489 He came back in the studio and goes, "There it is." 560 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:36,525 It's just, whatever it took. 561 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:50,964 'Tres Hombres' had so many elements going for it. 562 00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:55,628 It was crisp, it was the first record that was big and bold. 563 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:01,425 We were enjoying the benefit of that level of talent 564 00:42:01,644 --> 00:42:07,014 that lifted ZZ into a great sounding group on record. 565 00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:22,412 I was 13, rifling through my mum's disco records. 566 00:42:22,623 --> 00:42:25,206 I found this green record 567 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:29,665 with three faded photographs of hairy cowboys. 568 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,376 I put it on and it completely floored me. 569 00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:39,130 It painted this picture of Texas, which was totally exotic. 570 00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:43,426 It was an unimaginable world, it was totally alien 571 00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:45,185 from where I was from in London. 572 00:42:45,354 --> 00:42:47,061 'Waitin' For The Bus' is probably the only lyric 573 00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:48,562 I could have related to at the time. 574 00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:57,234 You'd heard Cream and you'd heard Led Zeppelin, 575 00:42:57,658 --> 00:43:00,275 and you'd heard this kind of English version of blues, 576 00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:01,943 and it was kind of pop. 577 00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:05,201 But when ZZ Top hit, it was like, 578 00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:08,583 the curtain was removed and it was put back on the ground, 579 00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:10,414 for what it really was. 580 00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:15,041 You don't expect to hear a John Lee Hooker-type boogie song 581 00:43:15,218 --> 00:43:16,674 on pop radio. 582 00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:18,084 But there it was. 583 00:43:19,347 --> 00:43:21,588 That music came out of nowhere, 584 00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:24,303 Texas blues music with a rock edge 585 00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:27,060 just shot onto the charts and onto the radio. 586 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:31,640 It was kind of a turning point. 587 00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,017 Things began to percolate. 588 00:43:34,195 --> 00:43:37,654 It resulted in ZZ Top's first big hit record, 589 00:43:37,824 --> 00:43:39,110 which was 'La Grange'. 590 00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:11,013 And then came an interesting turn, 591 00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:13,435 this explosive announcement. 592 00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:15,771 We got the word from Bill Ham, 593 00:44:15,945 --> 00:44:19,404 "The Rolling Stones want you guys to come over and play 594 00:44:19,574 --> 00:44:20,564 in Honolulu." 595 00:44:21,284 --> 00:44:24,948 The word was that Jagger had heard our stuff, 596 00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:26,369 and he liked it. 597 00:44:28,124 --> 00:44:30,661 And he asked if we wanted to play with the Stones, 598 00:44:30,835 --> 00:44:33,122 open for them in Hawaii. 599 00:44:33,337 --> 00:44:34,748 You've got to understand, 600 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:38,506 I love, and always have, The Rolling Stones. 601 00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:39,882 I mean, I just... 602 00:44:40,052 --> 00:44:44,637 It was just great 'cause we weren't anybody. 603 00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:47,636 You know, you get to go to Hawaii, for one thing, 604 00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:49,847 and open for the Stones for three shows. 605 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:51,603 That was amazing. 606 00:44:53,149 --> 00:44:56,437 We decided we were gonna go over two weeks in advance, 607 00:44:56,944 --> 00:45:00,062 and it was all under the guise of, "We're gonna warm up." 608 00:45:00,281 --> 00:45:04,775 Well, the only warming up we did was walking on Waikiki Beach 609 00:45:04,952 --> 00:45:06,408 and getting some suntan. 610 00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:11,323 Charlie Watts sat at the poolside bar 611 00:45:12,043 --> 00:45:14,125 probably about 12 hours a day. 612 00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:17,503 He was a fixture at that bar. 613 00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:19,630 Keith Richards wore white pants 614 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,667 that were as dirty as you can possibly get them. 615 00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:25,177 He wore the same pants all three nights. 616 00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,463 I remember the hotel, 617 00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:28,131 hanging out with The Rolling Stones guys. 618 00:45:28,351 --> 00:45:32,390 After the first night, Bill Ham came to me and Frank and said, 619 00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:37,899 "Well, you've already run up this bar tab pretty high. 620 00:45:38,486 --> 00:45:40,773 - You guys have got to cut back." - "Oh, man." 621 00:45:40,947 --> 00:45:42,813 He went, "Two drinks a night." 622 00:45:43,115 --> 00:45:45,277 He had us on a two-drink limit. 623 00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:48,864 So, Dusty and I found that they made a drink 624 00:45:49,038 --> 00:45:50,870 called the 'Chimp in Orbit', 625 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,748 which came in a glass that was about this tall 626 00:45:53,918 --> 00:45:55,249 and about that big around. 627 00:45:55,419 --> 00:45:57,877 It sat on the ground and had a giant straw. 628 00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:02,256 He came in and he saw that, saw me and Dusty sitting there. 629 00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:05,005 And I go, "This is only my second one." 630 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,092 He just turned around and walked out. 631 00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:09,222 He didn't say a word. 632 00:46:10,393 --> 00:46:12,384 We did three shows in two days. 633 00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:16,429 And I had heard that on the same tour, 634 00:46:16,899 --> 00:46:18,640 Stevie Wonder was on one of their shows 635 00:46:18,818 --> 00:46:20,183 and actually got booed. 636 00:46:21,279 --> 00:46:22,565 Stevie Wonder! 637 00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:25,355 So I was scared shitless, I really was. 638 00:46:26,951 --> 00:46:29,409 We walked onstage the first show, 639 00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:31,945 we had cowboy hats on, boots and jeans. 640 00:46:33,207 --> 00:46:35,323 And you could hear a pin drop. 641 00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:38,539 When the curtains opened and they looked at Billy and Dusty, 642 00:46:38,713 --> 00:46:40,499 you know, and they had the cowboy hats on, 643 00:46:40,673 --> 00:46:45,839 there was just a veil of horror fell over this entire arena. 644 00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:49,053 It was like, "Oh, fuck. Country band." 645 00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:52,389 I turned to Frank and Dusty, I said, "All right, fellows. 646 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,641 We've got to hit it." 647 00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:22,162 Mick watched us. 648 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:29,053 He put on a hat and some coveralls, 649 00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:31,804 and stood on the side of the stage with a broom, 650 00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:34,056 like a janitor, and watched us play. 651 00:47:34,226 --> 00:47:36,513 I looked over the side, and I see Jagger looking at us 652 00:47:36,687 --> 00:47:40,055 but he's got a broom turned upside down like a beard. 653 00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:41,222 Standing. 654 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,232 So, he's got a pretty good sense of humour. 655 00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:49,193 It was so much fun, I can't tell you. 656 00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,404 We got an encore each show. 657 00:47:51,577 --> 00:47:52,738 An encore! 658 00:47:52,912 --> 00:47:56,155 I was just on cloud 29. 659 00:47:56,749 --> 00:47:59,912 Those three performances were just electric. 660 00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:02,874 We did our job, same bluesy thing 661 00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:05,163 that got us together in the first place. 662 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,290 It settled the score. 663 00:48:07,468 --> 00:48:10,381 And this wave of enjoyment 664 00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:13,091 permeated through that whole arena. 665 00:48:27,405 --> 00:48:29,646 The next day, I was sitting at the airport, 666 00:48:29,824 --> 00:48:31,406 and I was reading the paper. 667 00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:36,111 They didn't mentioned us, absolutely nothing. 668 00:48:36,789 --> 00:48:40,783 Almost worse than saying you're crappy, or they don't like you, 669 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,076 is just dismiss you. 670 00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:44,415 That happened a lot to us. 671 00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:50,675 As far as the journalist and the press in general was concerned, 672 00:48:50,845 --> 00:48:53,086 they couldn't understand us. 673 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:55,798 First of all, Texas was an oddball place, 674 00:48:55,975 --> 00:48:57,465 and here is this oddball band 675 00:48:57,643 --> 00:48:59,509 playing this oddball kind of music. 676 00:48:59,687 --> 00:49:02,395 And there was a great amount of confusion. 677 00:49:02,565 --> 00:49:05,853 We were functioning far outside the pale 678 00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:10,315 of what journalism was trying to embrace. 679 00:49:10,698 --> 00:49:13,406 That was back to that thing of, "You've gotta go to California, 680 00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:14,941 you've gotta go to New York." 681 00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:18,323 And we refused to do that. 682 00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:21,330 I think we were just provincials over there. 683 00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:24,333 They lumped us off with all the Southern rock bands. 684 00:49:24,503 --> 00:49:26,119 They called us a 'Southern' rock band. 685 00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:27,787 They didn't know what to call us. 686 00:49:29,049 --> 00:49:31,131 You see, "That little ol' band from Texas", 687 00:49:31,302 --> 00:49:33,760 I don't think it was meant so much as a compliment, 688 00:49:33,929 --> 00:49:35,511 when it first was said. 689 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:38,423 We grabbed a hold of it, we thought it was a cool line, 690 00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:43,303 but I think it was actually supposed to be a cut. 691 00:49:44,607 --> 00:49:46,097 The Village Voice said, 692 00:49:46,275 --> 00:49:49,984 "ZZ Top has a sound like hammered shit." 693 00:49:50,571 --> 00:49:52,562 So, I had been hired by Bill Ham 694 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:56,779 to wrestle this opinion to the floor and turn it positive. 695 00:49:56,952 --> 00:50:00,570 I had worked with Michael Jackson, Bob Marley, 696 00:50:00,748 --> 00:50:03,957 AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, Queen, Billy Joel, Paul Simon, 697 00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:05,912 Peter Gabriel and people like that. 698 00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:09,413 So, I thought I could handle ZZ Top. 699 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,707 I went down to Texas, I interviewed them 700 00:50:12,885 --> 00:50:14,796 in a hotel room in Houston. 701 00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:18,964 I got all the background I could but I didn't feel I had a handle 702 00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:21,508 on the fucking, goddamn soul of the band, 703 00:50:22,228 --> 00:50:24,595 what it was that made them tick. 704 00:50:26,232 --> 00:50:29,475 And something started to come out of these guys. 705 00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:32,314 The rest of us in the United States of America, 706 00:50:32,488 --> 00:50:35,480 we have 50 states, and we all think that kids in all 50 states 707 00:50:35,658 --> 00:50:39,071 grow up with the same version of the history of our country. 708 00:50:39,245 --> 00:50:40,076 No. 709 00:50:40,246 --> 00:50:42,362 What the guys were revealing to me 710 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:44,577 was that they grew up in a foreign country. 711 00:50:45,167 --> 00:50:48,376 They grew up in a country with its own founding fathers, 712 00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:51,208 and they were not George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. 713 00:50:51,757 --> 00:50:54,249 Their founding father was Sam Houston. 714 00:50:54,426 --> 00:50:55,757 When I was a kid, 715 00:50:55,928 --> 00:50:58,761 you took Texas history before American history. 716 00:50:59,974 --> 00:51:02,090 See, that right there tells you something. 717 00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:05,092 I'm told I had an ancestor in the Alamo. 718 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:08,972 The pride in Texas is a real thing, 719 00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:11,892 I take it with me everywhere I go. 720 00:51:12,695 --> 00:51:14,561 I'm a 7th generation Texan. 721 00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:20,233 I know that my father's family came into to Texas in 1836, 722 00:51:20,411 --> 00:51:22,948 I know that my grandmother, Bessie Dawson, 723 00:51:23,122 --> 00:51:27,707 walked behind a covered wagon in 1899 from Louisiana. 724 00:51:27,876 --> 00:51:30,288 We like Texas, and we like being Texans. 725 00:51:30,671 --> 00:51:34,039 So, we started bringing that to the fore. 726 00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:37,630 Obviously we took it much further 727 00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:40,420 when we did the Worldwide Texas Tour, 728 00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,257 which was just one giant piece of craziness. 729 00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:45,846 I mean, wow. 730 00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:55,856 I guess probably about '74, 731 00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:58,397 a friend of mine approached me in my dressing room. 732 00:51:58,574 --> 00:51:59,939 I was clowning a rodeo. 733 00:52:00,492 --> 00:52:03,325 He said, "My boss wants to meet you. 734 00:52:04,204 --> 00:52:06,241 He's the manager of ZZ Top." 735 00:52:06,874 --> 00:52:08,205 I said, "ZZ who?" 736 00:52:10,002 --> 00:52:11,538 Because I was into Country. 737 00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:17,586 So, I met with Bill Ham in my dressing room. 738 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,967 He asked me a lot of questions about training, 739 00:52:20,137 --> 00:52:22,128 and how much experience I'd had and stuff. 740 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:26,300 I said, "Well, yes, I've trained a lot of animals." 741 00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:28,468 And he said, "Can you train a buffalo?" 742 00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,770 I said, "I can train anything with hair." 743 00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:33,146 He said, "OK, you're hired." 744 00:52:36,779 --> 00:52:38,315 This is Texas, 745 00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:42,778 and this is 'that little ol' band from Texas', ZZ Top. 746 00:52:43,911 --> 00:52:48,075 ZZ Top's Worldwide Texas Tour is coming! 747 00:52:48,832 --> 00:52:51,415 Bill Ham was the most sophisticated strategist 748 00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:53,701 of touring that I've ever seen in my life. 749 00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:56,291 Bill wanted to create a mystique, 750 00:52:56,465 --> 00:53:01,175 so they put together a tour called the Worldwide Texas Tour. 751 00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:04,220 They put together a 75-foot wide stage 752 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:06,381 in the shape of the state of Texas. 753 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:08,765 They had four trucks painted 754 00:53:08,936 --> 00:53:13,521 with a continuous diorama of Texas landscapes, 755 00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:16,149 just rolling down the highways of America. 756 00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:19,606 At that point, Texas was considered unsophisticated 757 00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:21,987 by New York people, Hollywood people, 758 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:24,523 and as a result, people like Janis Joplin, 759 00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:26,238 who grew up in Port Arthur, Texas, 760 00:53:26,412 --> 00:53:28,198 pretended she was from San Francisco. 761 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:32,787 Well, gradually it dawned on ZZ Top and Bill Ham. 762 00:53:33,168 --> 00:53:35,751 It was time for a movement for Texas pride. 763 00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:39,630 It was time for them to take Texas culture to the world. 764 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,088 Ladies and gentlemen, that 'little ol' band from Texas', 765 00:53:43,262 --> 00:53:44,593 ZZ Top! 766 00:54:15,711 --> 00:54:19,204 We finally had a little money to make a production. 767 00:54:19,381 --> 00:54:21,918 We'd never made a production before. 768 00:54:22,092 --> 00:54:24,003 We didn't know how to make a production. 769 00:54:24,344 --> 00:54:29,930 And then, some idiot, I don't know which one of us it was, 770 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,388 I can't remember, but it's like, "Let's take a buffalo." 771 00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:36,937 "Yeah, well let's take a Longhorn steer." 772 00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:38,848 "Well, let's take some rattlesnakes." 773 00:54:39,026 --> 00:54:40,767 "Let's take a javelina pig. 774 00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:42,560 And let's take some buzzards." 775 00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:46,402 So, all of a sudden, we've got this theme. 776 00:54:46,575 --> 00:54:52,161 Seven trucks' worth of theme to go out and do concerts with. 777 00:54:52,414 --> 00:54:55,122 - Which one's that, two? - Two. 778 00:54:57,252 --> 00:54:58,834 He was with us last year. 779 00:54:59,087 --> 00:55:00,669 This buzzard was 780 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,251 with my rodeo clown career for 42 years, 781 00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:05,336 and then with ZZ for several years. 782 00:55:05,594 --> 00:55:09,212 I think we figured she's 49, 783 00:55:09,681 --> 00:55:12,343 almost in six more months she'll be 50 years old. 784 00:55:13,227 --> 00:55:15,764 When ZZ asked me to come along with them, 785 00:55:15,938 --> 00:55:18,350 then I suggested the buzzard. 786 00:55:18,524 --> 00:55:23,769 She was staged behind Frank Beard. 787 00:55:23,946 --> 00:55:25,186 Frank used to tease them. 788 00:55:25,364 --> 00:55:27,571 He used to kind of tease with them and stuff, 789 00:55:27,741 --> 00:55:30,824 but the buzzards didn't want anybody messing with them. 790 00:55:31,328 --> 00:55:33,410 The buzzards were right behind me. 791 00:55:34,373 --> 00:55:37,286 If I was playing a slow blues, 792 00:55:37,459 --> 00:55:39,496 they would get very interested in me, 793 00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:41,877 like, "Is he dead?", you know. 794 00:55:42,047 --> 00:55:44,539 So, I'd start moving the arms a lot more. 795 00:56:03,777 --> 00:56:08,817 The Worldwide Texas Tour was a huge tour. 796 00:56:09,074 --> 00:56:11,190 It was elaborate, even for the time, 797 00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:13,359 and it was extremely expensive. 798 00:56:13,537 --> 00:56:15,778 And we weren't big enough to do that, 799 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:18,076 and everybody told us, 800 00:56:18,917 --> 00:56:19,952 but we did it. 801 00:56:23,672 --> 00:56:26,289 It was audacious, and we liked that. 802 00:56:26,466 --> 00:56:30,835 That very idea of doing that, is what it means to be Texan. 803 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:40,933 It was like a circus. 804 00:56:41,565 --> 00:56:43,306 It was like a Texas circus. 805 00:56:43,483 --> 00:56:45,815 You had livestock onstage, for Christ's sake. 806 00:56:45,986 --> 00:56:47,067 Who'd ever done that? 807 00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:50,855 Who'd ever seen animals onstage with you? 808 00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:54,616 It was like a rodeo, a circus, and a rock show 809 00:56:54,786 --> 00:56:55,867 all wrapped into one. 810 00:57:03,211 --> 00:57:06,169 For the band, the Worldwide Texas Tour finally, 811 00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:08,547 once and for all, had placed ZZ Top as, 812 00:57:08,717 --> 00:57:11,584 "Oh, those three guys from this weird place called Texas. 813 00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:15,380 Did you see them with the travelling zoo?" 814 00:57:15,974 --> 00:57:19,763 80, Texas, at that time, was starting to become discoverable. 815 00:57:20,479 --> 00:57:23,221 Cowboy hat sales, which had been relegated 816 00:57:23,398 --> 00:57:25,981 to the borders of the great Lone Star State, 817 00:57:26,777 --> 00:57:31,317 was now up in New York City at a western wear shop. 818 00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:34,774 And all due, in no small part, 819 00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:38,411 to this mythical trio called ZZ Top. 820 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,263 They've come a long way from the one-night stands 821 00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,093 in beer halls that gave them their nickname 822 00:57:59,267 --> 00:58:01,053 of That little ol' band from Texas'. 823 00:58:01,645 --> 00:58:04,854 But the down-home Texas approach looks like a solid hit 824 00:58:05,023 --> 00:58:07,355 with the teenagers in grassroots America. 825 00:58:24,668 --> 00:58:25,703 Good night, everybody. 826 00:58:25,877 --> 00:58:28,460 Thank you so much! Glad to be back at home. 827 00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:32,589 The Worldwide Texas Tour was a grandiose outing 828 00:58:32,759 --> 00:58:35,296 from the beginning to the closing. 829 00:58:35,470 --> 00:58:38,963 We had made the rounds coast to coast and border to border. 830 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:41,966 The band worked seven days a week, 831 00:58:42,144 --> 00:58:45,728 and by the time we pulled it to the curb, 832 00:58:45,897 --> 00:58:48,639 it's safe to say that all three band members, 833 00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:51,191 we wanted to take a step back. 834 00:58:52,654 --> 00:58:56,443 When that was over, we were just exhausted. 835 00:58:56,616 --> 00:59:00,905 We'd literally been on the road since we formed in late '69. 836 00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:04,492 I kept thinking, "Surely, we keep going at this pace, 837 00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:05,906 we're gonna burn out." 838 00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:10,541 Everybody just wanted to go do a little something. 839 00:59:10,714 --> 00:59:14,002 I mean, you know, get off the road. 840 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:19,591 At the end of the Worldwide Texas Tour, with the animals 841 00:59:19,765 --> 00:59:23,975 and the insanity that brought, there was a definite tiredness. 842 00:59:24,144 --> 00:59:26,977 I think creatively, everybody was a bit down, 843 00:59:27,147 --> 00:59:28,228 especially Frank. 844 00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:30,059 He was really burnt out at that point. 845 00:59:31,151 --> 00:59:33,108 I think it was a little bit of a drudge. 846 00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:37,522 It was hard, but somewhere in there, I got $72,000. 847 00:59:37,699 --> 00:59:39,986 I remember, that was the first big money I ever got. 848 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,698 I got a cheque for $72,000, somewhere in there. 849 00:59:44,956 --> 00:59:46,037 What did you do with it? 850 00:59:47,042 --> 00:59:49,579 I spent it on drugs. 851 00:59:50,504 --> 00:59:51,744 Every bit of it. 852 01:00:06,228 --> 01:00:09,311 I never had enough money to become a proper addict 853 01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:15,939 until '77, and then I accomplished that. 854 01:00:20,367 --> 01:00:25,453 The first time I ever did any drug at all, was I injected LSD, 855 01:00:26,832 --> 01:00:28,823 and boy, I liked it, you know. 856 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,244 I mean, it was looking for God and that whole thing. 857 01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:39,133 I really became a seeker of truth, you know, all of that. 858 01:00:39,344 --> 01:00:44,635 And then, the pills thing came about just from the workload. 859 01:00:45,016 --> 01:00:48,850 And the heroin thing came about because I just liked it. 860 01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:52,058 I mean, if you've never done heroin, you know... 861 01:00:52,232 --> 01:00:58,353 It's great, it's a vacation for the mind. 862 01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:00,145 And I liked it. 863 01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:01,438 I liked it a lot. 864 01:01:02,534 --> 01:01:04,696 Clapton only snorted heroin, 865 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:10,161 which is like so fucking not cost-efficient. 866 01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:16,416 You have to do five times as much to get the same buzz. 867 01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:18,046 But he was making more money. 868 01:01:19,843 --> 01:01:21,550 But it's not cost-efficient. 869 01:01:24,973 --> 01:01:28,716 All the money I pissed off, that's a regret. 870 01:01:29,477 --> 01:01:33,562 I sold my original Ludwig kit 871 01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:37,850 to buy drugs with it. 872 01:01:39,487 --> 01:01:41,148 Relationships I fucked up. 873 01:01:41,323 --> 01:01:45,692 Debbie and I, that was the reason we broke up. 874 01:01:47,162 --> 01:01:50,200 In the back of my mind, I knew I needed to kick heroin, 875 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,623 I needed to stop doing cocaine. 876 01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:58,541 I had done it all, and I couldn't go any further. 877 01:01:59,299 --> 01:02:00,960 So, I called and told Ham, 878 01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:04,843 I said "Look, I'm going in to a 30-day programme." 879 01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:08,764 And Bill Ham said, "All right, take as long as you need." 880 01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:12,350 So, I went to a 12-step programme. 881 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,727 I just wanted to get sober. 882 01:02:14,898 --> 01:02:18,357 I wanted to be like people I admired that could sit home, 883 01:02:18,526 --> 01:02:21,894 watch TV and go to bed, 884 01:02:22,656 --> 01:02:25,114 and that was OK. 885 01:02:28,703 --> 01:02:30,614 Frank goes all out at what he does, 886 01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:32,405 and that includes the bad things. 887 01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:34,080 He was sick. 888 01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:37,827 If you're a very good friend, you love a guy, 889 01:02:39,047 --> 01:02:41,414 you don't want to see him die. 890 01:02:41,591 --> 01:02:43,298 You just want to see your brother get well. 891 01:02:47,055 --> 01:02:50,138 For me, success is a great thing. 892 01:02:51,309 --> 01:02:53,926 It can also really screw with you. 893 01:02:54,312 --> 01:02:57,805 Not really sure who you are, 894 01:02:57,983 --> 01:03:01,601 or if people around you treat you badly, 895 01:03:01,778 --> 01:03:03,314 or treat you really nice, 896 01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:05,024 according to who they think you are. 897 01:03:05,323 --> 01:03:08,236 I just wanted to feel normal. 898 01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:11,610 So, I got a job at the airport. 899 01:03:11,788 --> 01:03:14,621 I got a work shirt that said "Joe" on it. 900 01:03:14,791 --> 01:03:19,035 I cut my hair and I worked there for a couple of months. 901 01:03:19,212 --> 01:03:20,577 I was really happy. 902 01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,129 You know, Friday night, go to the beer joint, 903 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:26,463 dance, drink and flirt with the girls. 904 01:03:26,928 --> 01:03:29,090 And everybody knew me as Joe. 905 01:03:29,264 --> 01:03:31,221 It gave me a sense of being grounded, I guess. 906 01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:34,682 Billy, I think, spent a lot of time in Europe. 907 01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:36,935 Lord knows what he was doing then. 908 01:03:40,984 --> 01:03:43,225 We were gonna take three months 909 01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:48,899 just to kind of reorganise, relax a bit, chill out, 910 01:03:49,075 --> 01:03:52,943 which turned into six months, which then turned into a year, 911 01:03:53,872 --> 01:03:55,579 which became two years. 912 01:03:56,666 --> 01:04:00,250 So, I took off to see what was happening out there. 913 01:04:01,963 --> 01:04:04,125 I was pogoing with punks in England, 914 01:04:04,299 --> 01:04:08,088 and then dipping into 915 01:04:08,803 --> 01:04:11,420 learning the ways of the gurus from India. 916 01:04:11,931 --> 01:04:16,516 It was a pretty wide-ranging set of unusual experiences. 917 01:04:16,728 --> 01:04:19,561 I think it was a big growth period. 918 01:04:21,024 --> 01:04:23,561 I think all of us decompressed. 919 01:04:24,944 --> 01:04:30,860 The break that we took, even though it was my initiative, 920 01:04:32,202 --> 01:04:33,909 worked out for everybody. 921 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:40,332 Billy and Dusty cleared their heads and I got sober. 922 01:04:41,961 --> 01:04:43,543 During that period, 923 01:04:43,713 --> 01:04:46,580 the record label put out a greatest hits album. 924 01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:50,175 And Bill Ham sued them about it, 925 01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:53,178 he said, "Hey, you didn't have the right to do that." 926 01:04:53,348 --> 01:04:55,806 He got us out of that contract, 927 01:04:55,975 --> 01:04:58,808 and we were free and we moved to Warner Bros. 928 01:04:59,354 --> 01:05:01,265 It turned out to be a big move. 929 01:05:02,107 --> 01:05:04,439 Warner Bros, at that time, ruled. 930 01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:07,192 They owned the record business. 931 01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:08,894 And they were waving a contract, 932 01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,063 they said, "We want ZZ Top." 933 01:05:12,033 --> 01:05:14,274 They wanted us to get the gang back together 934 01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:15,567 and that's what we did. 935 01:05:15,787 --> 01:05:17,573 We all came back together 936 01:05:18,456 --> 01:05:23,496 with a renewed and really a fresh sense of enthusiasm. 937 01:05:23,962 --> 01:05:27,421 And also, a willingness to experiment. 938 01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:30,715 Let's get crazy with it right now! 939 01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:46,898 During that extended hiatus, 940 01:05:47,068 --> 01:05:49,810 there was this growing punk scene 941 01:05:49,988 --> 01:05:53,731 that was really explosive and robust, 942 01:05:53,908 --> 01:05:56,696 and it had such energy and force. 943 01:05:57,370 --> 01:06:01,455 There was something rebellious underneath it all, 944 01:06:01,791 --> 01:06:02,781 which we liked. 945 01:06:03,334 --> 01:06:06,702 Those influences certainly steered us 946 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,416 in a different direction. 947 01:06:19,684 --> 01:06:20,890 We were changed. 948 01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:24,769 I mean, it wasn't quite so organic bluesy. 949 01:06:24,939 --> 01:06:27,021 It still had a lot of that, 950 01:06:27,192 --> 01:06:29,809 but there had been a lot of influences 951 01:06:29,986 --> 01:06:34,230 that each of us had been through during this time off. 952 01:06:34,407 --> 01:06:37,240 So, we were willing to go down different roads 953 01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:39,196 to find new music. 954 01:06:56,721 --> 01:06:59,429 We did so many crazy experimenting things, 955 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,055 including on the vocals. 956 01:07:01,392 --> 01:07:04,100 I remember Billy called me up and said, 957 01:07:04,270 --> 01:07:07,137 "Oh, I've just been watching the Phil Donahue Show. 958 01:07:07,398 --> 01:07:11,437 They had a guy there who didn't want to reveal who he was, 959 01:07:11,611 --> 01:07:14,820 so they had him blacked out and you could only see his shadow, 960 01:07:14,989 --> 01:07:16,900 and they had his voice all changed. 961 01:07:17,075 --> 01:07:19,658 You've got to see this show, cos his voice sounds awesome." 962 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:23,237 So I called up Phil Donahue's office, and said, 963 01:07:23,414 --> 01:07:25,781 "What did you use to distort that voice?" 964 01:07:25,959 --> 01:07:27,666 The guy said, "Well, I don't want to reveal it." 965 01:07:27,835 --> 01:07:30,793 So, I finally begged and he told me what it was. 966 01:07:30,964 --> 01:07:32,705 So, I got one of those boxes, 967 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:36,841 that's one of the things we used to disguise guitars and voices. 968 01:07:38,429 --> 01:07:41,171 So, yes, we went for a different feeling, sonically, 969 01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:44,307 and we were consciously trying to get more eclectic. 970 01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:48,098 Yeah! 971 01:07:50,525 --> 01:07:52,812 When you're running around town in your gold Cadillac 972 01:07:52,986 --> 01:07:54,522 or your tailored Cadillac, 973 01:07:54,696 --> 01:07:57,358 just let 'em know that you're bad and nationwide. 974 01:08:10,044 --> 01:08:13,412 The other thing is, when we reconvened after the hiatus, 975 01:08:13,631 --> 01:08:16,714 it was discovered that we'd all gotten rather lazy. 976 01:08:16,884 --> 01:08:19,922 None of us had shaved for three years, 977 01:08:20,722 --> 01:08:24,010 and this new version of ZZ Top appeared. 978 01:08:41,534 --> 01:08:43,195 They take off a little time, 979 01:08:43,369 --> 01:08:45,736 they come back, and they've got these long beards, 980 01:08:45,913 --> 01:08:48,120 except for Frank, obviously, whose name is Beard. 981 01:08:48,958 --> 01:08:53,122 I had a beard, but it wasn't near the beard they had. 982 01:08:53,296 --> 01:08:57,381 So I shaved it pretty much right after we got back together, 983 01:08:57,550 --> 01:09:02,761 when I saw they had this much, and I had this much. 984 01:09:08,478 --> 01:09:10,765 Frank didn't mind being beardless. 985 01:09:11,606 --> 01:09:13,096 After all, he had the name, 986 01:09:13,274 --> 01:09:16,483 and he could go to the shopping mall without being interrupted. 987 01:09:17,445 --> 01:09:20,187 He wouldn't go to the mall with me or anything, 988 01:09:20,365 --> 01:09:22,652 he just went, "I'm not going out in public with you 989 01:09:22,825 --> 01:09:24,941 because you get recognised now. 990 01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:27,948 We can't go anywhere in peace." 991 01:09:28,122 --> 01:09:29,908 I went, "Well, thanks, buddy." 992 01:09:30,917 --> 01:09:32,999 So, I would hang around with him anyway. 993 01:09:33,336 --> 01:09:35,202 "This is the drummer right here." 994 01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,809 What started out as a disguise, 995 01:09:56,609 --> 01:09:59,192 over time became a trademark, I guess you'd say. 996 01:09:59,404 --> 01:10:01,145 It goes where we go. 997 01:10:02,448 --> 01:10:04,155 We're still trying to figure out, 998 01:10:05,618 --> 01:10:09,031 "Is it better to have the beards over the covers 999 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:10,741 or under the covers?" 1000 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:13,160 The everlasting question. 1001 01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:28,721 I'm not a big fan of beards. I thought it looked awful. 1002 01:10:30,059 --> 01:10:32,517 I know these guys and they don't look like that. 1003 01:10:32,729 --> 01:10:33,764 Is that fake? 1004 01:10:34,105 --> 01:10:37,894 It was kind of a shock, but it hid their faces. 1005 01:10:38,443 --> 01:10:41,777 It kept the mystery, but it let them come out to the world. 1006 01:10:42,029 --> 01:10:44,236 It started another kind of mystique. 1007 01:10:44,407 --> 01:10:47,365 It started the cartoon characters, ZZ Top people, 1008 01:10:47,952 --> 01:10:52,196 which it turned out, hit at the exact right moment. 1009 01:11:03,843 --> 01:11:07,882 I remember, Debbie and I were lying in bed one night, 1010 01:11:08,055 --> 01:11:12,344 flipping TV channels, and I saw this music thing. 1011 01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:14,634 They showed a music clip, and then another one, 1012 01:11:14,812 --> 01:11:18,851 and then another one, and we watched and we were enjoying it. 1013 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,391 About an hour later, I called Dusty and said, 1014 01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:23,435 "Hey, man, there's this special on TV. 1015 01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:25,354 It's all about music, you need to watch it." 1016 01:11:25,531 --> 01:11:28,694 Frank called me, he said he stumbled across this station, 1017 01:11:28,868 --> 01:11:30,825 and he thought it was a special. 1018 01:11:31,621 --> 01:11:34,739 He went, "Man, this is a great show. You've got to tune in." 1019 01:11:34,916 --> 01:11:38,159 I tuned in, and then I called Billy. 1020 01:11:38,336 --> 01:11:40,077 He said, "It's on this weird channel, 1021 01:11:40,254 --> 01:11:41,665 it's way down at the bottom." 1022 01:11:43,132 --> 01:11:46,295 After about four hours, I called and said, 1023 01:11:46,469 --> 01:11:49,962 "Hey, Frank, when does this come to a conclusion? 1024 01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:53,757 We've been watching four hours, and it keeps going." 1025 01:11:53,935 --> 01:11:56,222 About three, four in the morning, 1026 01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:59,763 we were like, "Goddamn, how long is this thing, you know? 1027 01:11:59,941 --> 01:12:01,227 We've got to go to sleep." 1028 01:12:01,484 --> 01:12:04,897 We all are so excited about this new concept in TV. 1029 01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:06,735 We were fascinated 1030 01:12:06,906 --> 01:12:10,774 by the possibility of video meets music. 1031 01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:15,195 That discovery of MTV is what brought the notion 1032 01:12:15,373 --> 01:12:18,331 of putting three guys in front of a camera. 1033 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,295 And Tim Newman, the great director, stepped forward. 1034 01:12:23,881 --> 01:12:27,090 I had produced a video for my cousin Randy Newman 1035 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:28,967 of this song called 'I love LA'. 1036 01:12:29,512 --> 01:12:32,550 And apparently, Bill Ham had seen the video 1037 01:12:32,723 --> 01:12:34,885 and had requested a meeting. 1038 01:12:35,059 --> 01:12:37,096 So, I had this meeting with Bill Ham and he said, 1039 01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:40,228 "We wanna do a video for the song 'Gimme All Your Lovin'." 1040 01:12:40,398 --> 01:12:42,389 He said, "The video's got to have a car 1041 01:12:42,567 --> 01:12:43,853 and it's got to have girls." 1042 01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:46,017 It was sort of like, the unspoken thing was, 1043 01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:47,651 "Besides that, do whatever you want." 1044 01:12:47,822 --> 01:12:49,904 That was the creative brief. 1045 01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:52,152 Tim Newman had an idea, he said, 1046 01:12:52,326 --> 01:12:55,159 "I've heard about this hot rod car, can we bring it in? 1047 01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:56,945 Because I've got three pretty girls 1048 01:12:57,123 --> 01:12:59,114 to match you three ugly guys." 1049 01:13:22,857 --> 01:13:24,439 Get back to work. 1050 01:14:21,666 --> 01:14:25,034 I'm a product of that early MTV era, 1051 01:14:25,211 --> 01:14:30,672 and fascination with discovering music through video in that way. 1052 01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,000 My introduction was Eliminator', 1053 01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:37,762 and that's the sonic version of ZZ Top. 1054 01:14:37,932 --> 01:14:40,219 Now, if you are a blues purist, 1055 01:14:40,393 --> 01:14:42,851 that could be very dangerous for them. 1056 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:45,728 That could have backfired in a major way, 1057 01:14:45,898 --> 01:14:49,357 because they're toying with something sacred. 1058 01:14:49,568 --> 01:14:51,150 People don't like that that much. 1059 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:56,781 You know, "Don't toy with my idols, my altar." 1060 01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:08,872 A lot of people's introduction to ZZ Top 1061 01:15:09,046 --> 01:15:11,879 was the MTV videos and 'Eliminator'. 1062 01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:14,124 'Eliminator' has got great songs, 1063 01:15:14,885 --> 01:15:16,546 but it was a departure. 1064 01:15:19,932 --> 01:15:22,014 A couple of people at the record company, 1065 01:15:22,184 --> 01:15:25,802 and a couple that we knew, were real against it. 1066 01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:28,392 They said, "No, you can't release that song. 1067 01:15:28,566 --> 01:15:31,729 That song, it's not you. 1068 01:15:31,902 --> 01:15:33,939 You're gonna get a lot of crap about it." 1069 01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:35,986 We stood up for it. 1070 01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,774 We really wanted to do some different things, 1071 01:15:38,951 --> 01:15:42,239 things like a synthesizer or different technology. 1072 01:15:42,830 --> 01:15:43,945 We wanted to use it. 1073 01:15:44,123 --> 01:15:47,741 If you don't do that, you play shuffle in C forever. 1074 01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:05,054 We had to maintain a willingness 1075 01:16:05,227 --> 01:16:09,312 to continue this business of experimentation. 1076 01:16:09,482 --> 01:16:13,601 This notion of what blues should or shouldn't be, 1077 01:16:13,778 --> 01:16:15,143 was thrown out the window. 1078 01:16:41,055 --> 01:16:43,763 Combining the new sound with the videos, 1079 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:46,766 with the girls, the car and the keys, 1080 01:16:46,936 --> 01:16:48,722 and the cartoon character band guys 1081 01:16:48,896 --> 01:16:50,682 fading in and out and doing things, 1082 01:16:50,981 --> 01:16:54,224 that was so out of the ordinary to happen. 1083 01:16:54,401 --> 01:16:56,517 I love films, and I come from the idea of narrative. 1084 01:16:56,695 --> 01:16:58,982 It didn't interest me to do a performance video. 1085 01:17:00,533 --> 01:17:01,864 So, somehow, I got the idea 1086 01:17:02,034 --> 01:17:04,196 that it would be interesting to turn these videos 1087 01:17:04,370 --> 01:17:09,911 into a story that had to do with the band as magical heroes. 1088 01:17:10,126 --> 01:17:13,664 Their mission was to help out young people 1089 01:17:13,838 --> 01:17:16,000 who were having a really crappy life. 1090 01:17:16,757 --> 01:17:19,465 Tim Newman, his sense of vision... 1091 01:17:19,635 --> 01:17:22,548 He was the first on the block that really brought 1092 01:17:22,721 --> 01:17:24,962 Hollywood-movie-like scripting 1093 01:17:25,182 --> 01:17:27,423 into a three-minute expression. 1094 01:17:34,608 --> 01:17:35,564 Gee, I'm sorry. 1095 01:17:36,068 --> 01:17:36,933 That's OK, any time. 1096 01:17:37,111 --> 01:17:38,727 - Oops! - Watch your dress! 1097 01:17:38,904 --> 01:17:43,319 The band suddenly became larger-than-life. 1098 01:17:43,784 --> 01:17:49,325 We came, we appeared lending our hand to the underdog. 1099 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,284 Boy meets girl, girl and boy ride off into the sunset. 1100 01:17:55,838 --> 01:17:57,044 And we're still playing. 1101 01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,171 We're still the musicians. 1102 01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:01,799 That's all ZZ Top is, we get to play. 1103 01:18:33,792 --> 01:18:37,126 It was just so potent, it was so stylised, 1104 01:18:37,296 --> 01:18:40,084 that it just laser-etched in your brain when you saw it. 1105 01:18:41,467 --> 01:18:44,926 No one else looked like them, no one else sounded like them. 1106 01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:48,554 You didn't even have to own a ZZ Top record to know ZZ Top. 1107 01:18:50,142 --> 01:18:54,761 It made them cultural icons, it made them so recognisable 1108 01:18:55,314 --> 01:18:57,681 that they will be recognisable forever. 1109 01:19:24,969 --> 01:19:29,839 It was one of the handful examples of artists 1110 01:19:30,015 --> 01:19:33,178 whose careers were completely transformed by music videos. 1111 01:19:33,352 --> 01:19:36,970 They could go and tour Europe and Asia. 1112 01:19:37,147 --> 01:19:39,229 The end result of the videos was 1113 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,607 they became international superstars. 1114 01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:44,314 Right here we have the fabulous ZZ Top! 1115 01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:48,898 I just can't tell you how important it was to us. 1116 01:19:49,451 --> 01:19:50,987 Without videos, I don't think 1117 01:19:51,161 --> 01:19:54,028 'Eliminator' would have been what it was. 1118 01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:56,906 I always wanted to do the Carson show. 1119 01:19:57,084 --> 01:19:58,245 We finally got to do it. 1120 01:19:58,669 --> 01:20:00,205 Would you welcome, ZZ Top! 1121 01:20:25,946 --> 01:20:29,109 Did 'Eliminator' define ZZ Top? I don't know. 1122 01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,615 But as the old saying goes, 1123 01:20:31,785 --> 01:20:33,742 "As long as we're in there somewhere." 1124 01:20:34,747 --> 01:20:37,409 There's that even stronger statement, 1125 01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:39,369 "It only takes one." 1126 01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:41,952 And we continue to make music. 1127 01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:46,589 We continue to get in the studio and thrash it out. 1128 01:20:51,263 --> 01:20:55,473 Let's face it, the Eliminator' peak really brought 1129 01:20:55,642 --> 01:20:59,226 so many new faces to the party. 1130 01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:02,768 They're still there and so are we. 1131 01:22:55,262 --> 01:22:57,048 Here's the deal, 1132 01:22:57,222 --> 01:23:00,214 we don't really know what's kept us together this long. 1133 01:23:00,684 --> 01:23:02,925 I make a joke about, that we've been together 1134 01:23:03,103 --> 01:23:06,141 because early on we got separate tour buses. 1135 01:23:07,608 --> 01:23:11,943 But, the love of music certainly bonded us together. 1136 01:23:12,112 --> 01:23:14,820 We grew up listening to kind of the same stuff. 1137 01:23:15,365 --> 01:23:20,201 But that happens 8 lot and it doesn't keep bands together, 1138 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,031 so, I don't know. 1139 01:23:26,585 --> 01:23:32,627 I would say, for me, I've found the people I want to play with. 1140 01:23:33,217 --> 01:23:35,925 And I was able to do that at a very early age. 1141 01:23:36,970 --> 01:23:38,802 I'm still satisfied with them. 1142 01:23:38,972 --> 01:23:42,090 I'm satisfied with Dusty and I'm satisfied with Billy. 1143 01:23:42,726 --> 01:23:45,058 With these two guys, I've never wanted to quit 1144 01:23:45,604 --> 01:23:47,015 and I've never wanted to get fired. 1145 01:23:50,234 --> 01:23:51,395 I'll drink to that. 1146 01:23:51,568 --> 01:23:52,603 Oh, OK. 1147 01:24:11,004 --> 01:24:14,588 Well, there's an easy answer to what's kept the band together 1148 01:24:15,926 --> 01:24:19,419 for now nearing five decades, 1149 01:24:19,888 --> 01:24:23,006 which is probably longer than most marriages, 1150 01:24:23,308 --> 01:24:29,520 but the general consensus, and we talk about it frequently, 1151 01:24:30,065 --> 01:24:33,603 we still enjoy getting to do what we get to do. 1152 01:25:15,736 --> 01:25:17,352 There's such a richness 1153 01:25:17,529 --> 01:25:21,067 in meandering down this long trail together. 1154 01:25:21,825 --> 01:25:27,070 Dusty, Frank, and I, four going on five decades later, 1155 01:25:28,457 --> 01:25:31,791 we've stayed on course, and we turned it up, 1156 01:25:32,252 --> 01:25:35,540 cranked it up, and we never looked back. 1157 01:26:24,096 --> 01:26:29,011 When I first met Billy, it was to play together 1158 01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:31,516 in the studio on a Queens's record. 1159 01:26:31,687 --> 01:26:34,679 He was playing, and he hits this note, 1160 01:26:34,856 --> 01:26:38,349 and his beard fell and it muted the strings 1161 01:26:38,527 --> 01:26:41,360 and it made this harmonic. 1162 01:26:42,614 --> 01:26:47,700 I sat there stunned, dumbfounded, 1163 01:26:47,869 --> 01:26:50,156 and we looked at each other and he's like, 1164 01:26:50,872 --> 01:26:53,785 "This is the first ever beard harmonic." 1165 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,207 Even his beard 1166 01:26:56,378 --> 01:26:59,996 is a pretty good guitar player, you know. 1167 01:27:14,604 --> 01:27:19,940 I think that the fact that ZZ Top has the same three guys, 1168 01:27:20,694 --> 01:27:22,560 had been together for fifty years, 1169 01:27:22,738 --> 01:27:26,231 is really an amazing achievement. 1170 01:27:26,408 --> 01:27:29,491 And they will be remembered for 150 years. 1171 01:27:29,661 --> 01:27:32,028 200 years from now, people will be going, 1172 01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:36,578 "Everybody's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man, 1173 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,117 Who are those guys?" 1174 01:27:49,681 --> 01:27:52,093 How much are you getting off any of these cameras? 1175 01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:53,428 Is it just table-height? 1176 01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:55,969 It's pretty much from about here. 1177 01:27:56,146 --> 01:27:58,604 How about this camera here? 1178 01:28:00,066 --> 01:28:01,602 We're not seeing below the table. 1179 01:28:01,777 --> 01:28:03,609 - OK, that's what I'm asking. - Yeah, yeah. 1180 01:28:03,779 --> 01:28:05,269 So I can take my pants off. 1181 01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:23,125 Bill Ham, was probably one of the most charismatic men 1182 01:28:23,298 --> 01:28:24,504 I've ever met in my life. 1183 01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:32,172 He's the reason we were able to grow out of "just another band", 1184 01:28:33,225 --> 01:28:36,763 that was out there, a B-level band trying to make it, 1185 01:28:36,937 --> 01:28:41,056 that we were able to grow into what we are. 1186 01:28:44,152 --> 01:28:49,022 It's difficult to talk about it 'cause it's kind of too soon. 1187 01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:54,661 He just gave me direction, 1188 01:28:56,873 --> 01:29:01,618 not only as part of the band, but as a person. 1189 01:29:02,212 --> 01:29:06,001 He was a very wise man and I loved him. 1190 01:29:09,001 --> 01:29:13,001 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 95634

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