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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,556 --> 00:00:15,849 What a story. 2 00:00:16,891 --> 00:00:18,560 It's so wild, it must not be true. 3 00:00:19,227 --> 00:00:22,981 That's the first thing people think: "Oh, come on, that can't be true. 4 00:00:23,064 --> 00:00:27,694 It's 20 years ago. Cold case, 20-year-old murders don't get solved." 5 00:00:29,946 --> 00:00:33,575 Well, it all starts, you know... Carole Baskin, 6 00:00:33,658 --> 00:00:37,120 who was Carole Lewis at the time, was married to Don Lewis. 7 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:42,542 I did see Don Lewis about maybe a month or so 8 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:44,836 before he disappeared. 9 00:00:46,254 --> 00:00:49,507 And he did mention to me that he felt his life was in danger. 10 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:54,179 There are so many strange twists in that story, 11 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:56,598 you would have to write books 12 00:00:56,681 --> 00:01:00,310 and volumes of the stuff that went wrong there, the lies that are there. 13 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:04,773 All the circumstantial evidence, somebody did something to Don. 14 00:01:09,652 --> 00:01:13,073 There's a lot of stories about Carole having some finger in it... 15 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:16,785 but nobody can prove it. 16 00:01:33,134 --> 00:01:35,804 I really believe that everything happens for a reason. 17 00:01:36,346 --> 00:01:39,224 Everything is unfolding the way that it has to 18 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:42,435 for us to become our highest possible self. 19 00:01:43,019 --> 00:01:47,524 I don't regret any of what I have lived through. 20 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:51,736 I wouldn't be standing here today doing what I'm doing 21 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,739 if it hadn't been for all of those... things 22 00:01:54,823 --> 00:01:56,623 that have happened over the course of my life. 23 00:02:07,544 --> 00:02:09,587 The last day that I saw Don, 24 00:02:10,463 --> 00:02:12,590 he told me that he was done, 25 00:02:12,674 --> 00:02:14,384 that he was divorcing her, 26 00:02:14,717 --> 00:02:17,679 that she was one of the worst people he had ever met in his life, 27 00:02:17,762 --> 00:02:19,514 and she was very dangerous. 28 00:02:20,056 --> 00:02:23,893 He did come to Mom and say for us to stay away from her. 29 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:27,939 He was afraid of her. We didn't know exactly why. 30 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:31,734 He indicated to me that he was going to tell Carole... 31 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:34,904 that he wanted a divorce. 32 00:02:38,950 --> 00:02:40,118 Never saw him again. 33 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:49,210 I was the supervisor in charge of the homicide section 34 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:52,172 with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office in Tampa, Florida, 35 00:02:52,255 --> 00:02:56,176 which also works adult missing persons. 36 00:02:57,927 --> 00:03:02,891 In the case of Don Lewis, the call came in as a typical missing adult. 37 00:03:05,351 --> 00:03:07,770 Initially on a missing person investigation, 38 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:09,856 you just think, "Well, things are gonna work out. 39 00:03:09,939 --> 00:03:12,483 Maybe this guy just went somewhere and didn't touch base." 40 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:17,989 However, I would say within the first week or two 41 00:03:18,072 --> 00:03:20,575 that detectives were starting to look at the possibility 42 00:03:20,658 --> 00:03:23,661 that we had... foul play or something 43 00:03:24,245 --> 00:03:26,456 that was unexplainable at that point in time. 44 00:03:27,332 --> 00:03:30,501 It pays to have buckets with straw in it, so they can't get out. 45 00:03:32,503 --> 00:03:34,589 We've got four kitties we're gonna feed. 46 00:03:34,964 --> 00:03:38,134 I met Don in January of 1981, 47 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:39,844 so I was 20 when I met him. 48 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:41,679 - Um... - And he was how old? 49 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:44,265 He was 22 years my senior. 50 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:45,391 - Okay. - So he was 42. 51 00:03:45,975 --> 00:03:47,352 Yeah, she's just jealous. 52 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:51,648 You have to understand that Don Lewis was married with kids, 53 00:03:52,023 --> 00:03:55,860 but apparently, he was coming down, I think it was Nebraska... 54 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:02,450 and late one night he seen this young girl walking down the street crying, 55 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:05,245 and Don Lewis stopped to see if he could help her. 56 00:04:05,328 --> 00:04:08,665 I had been in a fight with my first husband. 57 00:04:09,999 --> 00:04:13,336 I actually had to throw a potato across the kitchen 58 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:16,256 and into the dining room at him in order to get out the door. 59 00:04:17,173 --> 00:04:19,467 I deal with stress I think the same way cats do. 60 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:21,970 I just pace and pace and pace and pace. 61 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:24,847 And I remember Don pulls around, 62 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:27,809 and he asks me if I would get in the car, and I told him no. 63 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:30,996 Pulls around again, and I think it was on the third time 64 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:34,482 he pulled around, and he had a gun sitting on the front seat of his car. 65 00:04:35,733 --> 00:04:37,986 And he said, "You can hold this gun on me, 66 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:39,862 I just need somebody to talk to." 67 00:04:40,113 --> 00:04:42,824 So I picked up the gun, held it on him, 68 00:04:42,907 --> 00:04:44,659 and we drove around town and he talked. 69 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,540 And I ended up spending the night with him. 70 00:04:52,917 --> 00:04:55,753 Don Lewis deserted, basically, his wife and kids 71 00:04:55,837 --> 00:04:58,798 because he was in love with the younger blonde woman... 72 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:00,633 known as Carole. 73 00:05:02,051 --> 00:05:04,679 He told me that he had met her. 74 00:05:05,722 --> 00:05:10,518 I was speechless. I adored him. 75 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:14,355 I told him that I'd love him till the day I died, 76 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:16,566 but it was over. 77 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:20,403 He used to call her angel, 78 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:23,531 and I said, "Well, 79 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:27,994 she's an angel sent straight from hell, and one day, you'll find out." 80 00:05:38,254 --> 00:05:42,133 At first it seemed like they were really gonna make it. 81 00:05:42,216 --> 00:05:43,217 I liked Carole. 82 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:44,426 I mean... 83 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:46,763 I really, really did like Carole, 84 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:47,846 but... 85 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:51,476 Don was not an easy man. 86 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:55,855 Don was a millionaire, he was a multi-millionaire, okay? 87 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:58,358 And he didn't like her spending his money. 88 00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:00,276 She was very ambitious. 89 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,528 She wanted to go somewhere and be somebody, 90 00:06:02,612 --> 00:06:05,573 and she didn't want to stay walking down the street 91 00:06:05,656 --> 00:06:07,033 in the middle of the night. 92 00:06:07,825 --> 00:06:09,243 I've got her diary. 93 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:10,578 I've got it all. 94 00:06:11,829 --> 00:06:12,997 Good evening, world! 95 00:06:13,331 --> 00:06:16,167 Welcome to saga six of the Carole story. 96 00:06:16,834 --> 00:06:17,919 Okay, well, tonight 97 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:20,922 we just happened to have gotten in the mail today... 98 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,800 Carole's diary. 99 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:27,929 "He said he wanted to be loved for the man he was inside, 100 00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:30,348 and if women knew how rich he was, 101 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:33,768 he would never know if they loved him for him or his money." 102 00:06:34,811 --> 00:06:36,938 Don started out with nothing. 103 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:40,316 You could not have looked at Don 104 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:42,485 and even had an inkling 105 00:06:42,568 --> 00:06:45,571 that he had amassed the wealth that he had. 106 00:06:47,824 --> 00:06:50,034 You never saw Don dressed up. 107 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:51,994 He had his blue jeans and his t-shirt... 108 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:56,416 but he carried a 500-dollar-bill around in his pocket... 109 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:59,001 just because he could. 110 00:07:01,379 --> 00:07:03,423 We said he had a green thumb, 111 00:07:03,506 --> 00:07:05,007 a green thumb for money, 112 00:07:05,091 --> 00:07:07,844 because anything he touched, practically... 113 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:09,846 he made money on. 114 00:07:12,223 --> 00:07:15,685 I worked for Don Lewis for ten, 15 years, 115 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:17,437 but knew him much longer than that. 116 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:21,315 And you'd have to know Don to know his properties. 117 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:26,112 He liked to hide his stuff. Like, he would hide money, bury money. 118 00:07:26,195 --> 00:07:29,031 You know, hide gold bars, bury the gold bars. 119 00:07:29,115 --> 00:07:31,409 Don Lewis didn't want people knowing what he had 120 00:07:31,492 --> 00:07:32,743 and what he was worth, 121 00:07:32,827 --> 00:07:36,038 but I'm gonna say Don Lewis was probably worth, um... 122 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:39,500 20 million? Maybe a little more. 123 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:44,130 I think it was closer to... seven to seven and a half million dollars, 124 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:45,214 is what he was worth. 125 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:46,507 I don't think anybody knew, 126 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:49,093 but I know at least five million, if not ten million. 127 00:07:49,927 --> 00:07:51,053 I knew him as his lawyer, 128 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,472 I knew what he was doing, 129 00:07:52,555 --> 00:07:54,182 I knew a lot of what he was doing. 130 00:07:55,475 --> 00:07:57,977 Don had money when he met Carole. 131 00:07:58,436 --> 00:08:00,521 Carole pretty much had nothing. 132 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:02,064 He had something she didn't. 133 00:08:03,065 --> 00:08:05,735 Were you having fun? Were you having fun? 134 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:12,074 Growing up, my parents were very plain folk. 135 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:14,160 We usually lived in mobile homes. 136 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:24,879 I never really got how poor we were until I was a teenager. 137 00:08:31,594 --> 00:08:34,889 I had been raped at knifepoint by three men 138 00:08:34,972 --> 00:08:37,808 that lived across the street from me when I was 14. 139 00:08:41,562 --> 00:08:44,690 In my family, they were fundamental Christians 140 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:48,653 that believed if a woman was involved in something like that, 141 00:08:48,736 --> 00:08:50,988 she must have been asking for it in some way. 142 00:08:52,823 --> 00:08:54,575 Well, I left home at the age of 15. 143 00:08:56,035 --> 00:08:59,580 I got married to Michael when I was 17. 144 00:09:00,289 --> 00:09:03,751 He was Jamie's father, and he was extremely abusive... 145 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:08,422 but the idea of leaving and having to raise a child on my own 146 00:09:08,506 --> 00:09:09,674 was terrifying. 147 00:09:11,133 --> 00:09:14,095 I was 20 when I met Don, 148 00:09:14,512 --> 00:09:17,181 and 24 before I left my husband. 149 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:22,019 Don had a fascination with animals, 150 00:09:22,103 --> 00:09:23,646 so we were a great team. 151 00:09:24,355 --> 00:09:26,857 He was more of an animal collector, I think. 152 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:28,859 He definitely liked the idea 153 00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:31,904 of having a lot of different kinds of animals. 154 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:34,574 See? 155 00:09:34,740 --> 00:09:37,060 He gets along with the rest of the cats real good out here, 156 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:38,661 though he just don't like people. 157 00:09:41,539 --> 00:09:45,960 They started out by going to the exotic animal auctions. 158 00:09:47,587 --> 00:09:49,755 We started in 1992 159 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:51,048 with the purchase of a bobcat 160 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:54,010 who was going to be killed by taxidermists at an auction. 161 00:09:54,510 --> 00:09:58,598 The following year, we bought 56 bobcats and lynx from a fur farm. 162 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:00,850 The next year, 28 bobcats and lynx. 163 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:03,311 The following year, 22 more bobcats and lynx. 164 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:05,146 And by the time we did that, 165 00:10:05,229 --> 00:10:08,774 there were no more fur farms in the US that were killing bobcats and lynx. 166 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,946 It's called Wildlife on Easy Street. 167 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:18,993 Guests tour the sanctuary, take tons of pictures, 168 00:10:19,076 --> 00:10:20,536 and even help feed the cats. 169 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 When they started Wildlife on Easy Street, 170 00:10:24,915 --> 00:10:31,881 they bought, sold, bred big cats for years. 171 00:10:31,964 --> 00:10:34,425 Now, I would like to remind you, Carole, 172 00:10:34,508 --> 00:10:37,470 that you are the one who spent 94,000 dollars 173 00:10:37,553 --> 00:10:40,306 to buy animals to fill your so-called sanctuary. 174 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:42,099 You still have them there at your facility, 175 00:10:42,183 --> 00:10:45,728 you're still tagging them as rescues, and you're still 'frauding the public. 176 00:10:50,191 --> 00:10:52,071 I believe that I sold Don and Carole Lewis 177 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,945 their very first tiger in 1995. 178 00:10:56,530 --> 00:10:59,575 They flew their private plane up to Shelbyville, 179 00:11:00,451 --> 00:11:03,496 and that's how I met them, and they seemed to be good people. 180 00:11:05,414 --> 00:11:07,291 Sold 'em Scrappy, was his name. 181 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:09,627 He was an... excellent little tiger. 182 00:11:17,218 --> 00:11:21,013 This is the VHS that she made back in the day. 183 00:11:21,097 --> 00:11:24,308 The last time I probably seen it was 1996. 184 00:11:24,392 --> 00:11:26,644 You'll get a kick out of it, I'm sure. 185 00:11:28,104 --> 00:11:30,564 Our names are Don and Carole Lewis. 186 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:33,776 We have really enjoyed our exotics. 187 00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:38,155 Throughout this tape, we'll show you how we take them from the mother, 188 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:41,534 acclimate them to social life with people... 189 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:44,787 She had called me up and asked about raising baby animals, 190 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:47,206 said she was gonna do a "how to" video. 191 00:11:47,289 --> 00:11:49,529 They have to be taken this young from the mother 192 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:52,628 in order to make good quality pets from them. 193 00:11:53,421 --> 00:11:56,465 A lot of people don't believe that it's right 194 00:11:56,590 --> 00:11:59,385 to raise up exotic animals as house pets. 195 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:04,432 You know, back in the early '90s, she bred and sold cats. 196 00:12:04,515 --> 00:12:07,143 And... it's so funny, 197 00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:10,187 because the very people that are against breeding 198 00:12:10,271 --> 00:12:12,064 used to do the same thing. 199 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:14,028 I think you'll see throughout this tape 200 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:15,985 that they are very happy... 201 00:12:17,319 --> 00:12:18,988 and they're so much fun! 202 00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:23,242 Okay, now we're gonna jump around 203 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:25,085 because I'm sure you don't want to hear about 204 00:12:25,161 --> 00:12:28,664 all the cats they bought, all the kittens they bred, 205 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:31,041 and how many died because they didn't have any clue 206 00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:32,125 what they were doing. 207 00:12:34,336 --> 00:12:40,217 I think that Carole did start feeling bad about selling the animals 208 00:12:40,301 --> 00:12:43,679 and maybe breeding them and crossbreeding them. 209 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:50,561 Carole wanted the animals just to collect and love... 210 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:53,647 and he looked at it more as a business. 211 00:12:56,942 --> 00:13:02,156 Don and I had differing feelings about conservation and breeding. 212 00:13:02,323 --> 00:13:04,658 He loved cubs, he loved breeding cats. 213 00:13:05,242 --> 00:13:07,703 He would go down to Costa Rica once a month, 214 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:09,747 and every time he was in Costa Rica, 215 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:11,081 I'd have the vet out here 216 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:14,335 and I would neuter and spay as many cats as fast as I could. 217 00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:19,590 The attraction for Don in Costa Rica 218 00:13:19,673 --> 00:13:21,425 was the lack of regulations, you know. 219 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:25,888 If they could have the cats down there, he would've been free to breed them. 220 00:13:27,348 --> 00:13:30,392 Was that consistent in what Carole wanted to do? 221 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,480 Apparently, not. They were arguing about it. 222 00:13:34,563 --> 00:13:36,899 She didn't want to take the cats and go there. 223 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:41,403 That is when we learned that they weren't getting along real good. 224 00:13:43,113 --> 00:13:46,033 He also had a girlfriend in Costa Rica... 225 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:50,412 so I think one of their main problems was 226 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:53,457 she couldn't be the only one in his life. 227 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,087 I think she thinks she would be the one to change him. 228 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:01,048 She thought she was pretty enough, 229 00:14:01,131 --> 00:14:04,927 young enough, that she would be all he needed... 230 00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:07,888 and that was never going to happen. 231 00:14:10,224 --> 00:14:11,684 Did he have other women? 232 00:14:12,393 --> 00:14:13,811 I suspected it. 233 00:14:13,894 --> 00:14:15,020 I never saw it in person, 234 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:18,399 but I've heard enough to book... to say that's probably true. 235 00:14:19,149 --> 00:14:20,734 He liked ladies, I'm sure. 236 00:14:21,443 --> 00:14:24,822 I would see him with two or three different ones, you know? 237 00:14:27,324 --> 00:14:31,287 Don was 17 and I was 14 when we got married. 238 00:14:31,912 --> 00:14:35,624 My mom had to sign the papers and so did his mother, 239 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:37,376 because he was too young. 240 00:14:38,335 --> 00:14:39,335 Life was good. 241 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,717 The only thing that went wrong was when someone would call me and say, 242 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,802 "I've seen Don with so and so." 243 00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:50,973 That was a problem with him, because he did have a roaming eye. 244 00:14:51,056 --> 00:14:53,559 There's names, you know: sexaholic. 245 00:14:54,935 --> 00:14:58,397 If my dad had anything, that would have been it. 246 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:02,776 "What is my sick need that I'm trying to fill 247 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,820 with this venomous man? 248 00:15:05,946 --> 00:15:08,198 I've asked forever, but I still don't know. 249 00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:11,118 He's all I've ever known, 250 00:15:11,201 --> 00:15:13,287 and he's the only man I've ever loved. 251 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:15,497 I hope Jamie never finds herself 252 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:20,544 in such a sick and perverted relationship." 253 00:15:22,838 --> 00:15:25,633 At the end, I know there was talk of divorce. 254 00:15:27,051 --> 00:15:31,388 I think he was preparing his estate and assets in a way 255 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:35,059 that he could get a divorce without losing everything, 256 00:15:35,142 --> 00:15:38,270 and I think he thought she was there... 257 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,898 solely for the purpose of getting his money. 258 00:15:41,482 --> 00:15:44,693 And that was what he was trying to protect. 259 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:51,867 If Don Lewis had have gotten a divorce with Carole... 260 00:15:53,035 --> 00:15:55,204 the way Don would have worked, 261 00:15:55,287 --> 00:15:57,539 she would have been left with really nothing. 262 00:15:58,374 --> 00:15:59,625 She would have lost the cats, 263 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:03,837 she would have lost everything down to the house and a car. 264 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:06,006 Would have been a devastating blow. 265 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:09,468 Oh, yes, he's a good boy. Yes, he's a good boy. 266 00:16:09,551 --> 00:16:12,846 "I listened while he told me that all of his money is his, 267 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:18,018 and everything he earned by himself and brought into this marriage by himself. 268 00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:20,521 I wish there was some way out for me." 269 00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:23,691 I'd say she found a way out, wouldn't you? 270 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:36,078 Don started looking a little bit funny, 271 00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,414 and then one day he came in 272 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,666 and he brought me a piece of paper. 273 00:16:41,041 --> 00:16:42,918 It was in an envelope, and he said, 274 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:46,005 "Here, you need to take this home, you need to keep it. 275 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:48,966 If anything happens to me, give it to the police." 276 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:52,094 He'd given me a copy of the restraining order 277 00:16:52,177 --> 00:16:53,220 that he had filed for. 278 00:16:56,932 --> 00:16:58,559 "This is the second time 279 00:16:58,642 --> 00:17:02,479 Carole has gotten angry enough to threaten to kill me." 280 00:17:03,731 --> 00:17:05,858 "Carole and I got into a big fuss, 281 00:17:05,941 --> 00:17:08,986 and she ordered me out of the house or she would kill me. 282 00:17:09,737 --> 00:17:14,450 She has a .45 revolver and she took my .357 and hid it." 283 00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:24,001 Daddy never really involved "the law" in anything. 284 00:17:24,418 --> 00:17:26,920 Um, it was just something that he resisted. 285 00:17:27,004 --> 00:17:29,631 For him to go down there 286 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:32,926 and write that out and present it before a judge 287 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,721 - was major, in my eyes. - So wise. 288 00:17:35,804 --> 00:17:39,391 That is not something he would do unless he was at his wits' end... 289 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:41,518 with how to protect himself... 290 00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:44,938 but he was denied protection. 291 00:17:46,148 --> 00:17:48,442 It doesn't show stalking, it doesn't show battery, 292 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:49,610 it doesn't show anything. 293 00:17:49,693 --> 00:17:51,028 It shows a verbal argument, 294 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,238 and that's not enough to get an injunction. 295 00:17:53,530 --> 00:17:55,616 And so that's why you think it was denied? 296 00:17:55,699 --> 00:17:57,076 That's why I know it was denied. 297 00:17:57,367 --> 00:17:59,578 - But obviously... - That was dead on arrival. 298 00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:02,498 What raises my eyebrows is "she threatened to kill me." 299 00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:04,500 - That's not enough to get a... - Nope. 300 00:18:04,583 --> 00:18:06,710 - a restraining order? - There's free speech. 301 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,088 We don't restrain free speech in this country, 302 00:18:09,171 --> 00:18:10,631 we punish it after it's done. 303 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:14,468 I'm sure in the judge's eyes it was hearsay, 304 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:18,388 but that happened in June, and he disappeared in August. 305 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,068 A local millionaire vanishes without a trace, 306 00:18:31,151 --> 00:18:32,986 but did he simply walk away? 307 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,364 Or did something more ominous happen to him? 308 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:37,032 I never threatened him. 309 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:40,744 His wife, Carole Lewis, says he was planning to transport cars 310 00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:41,995 to Costa Rica. 311 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,373 He said to be sure and get the Costa Rica truck ready 312 00:18:44,498 --> 00:18:47,584 'cause he was leaving early, early, early in the morning for Miami... 313 00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:50,420 and that was the last thing that he said to me. 314 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,422 The last thing he said to me was 315 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:54,925 that he needed me to have Kenny get a truck ready 316 00:18:55,008 --> 00:18:59,805 because he was going early, early, early, he said, the next day to Costa Rica... 317 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:05,185 and that was the last I saw of him, so I just don't know. 318 00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:09,481 We was building this cage, 319 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:12,818 and Don started to tell me something. 320 00:19:12,901 --> 00:19:15,904 He said, "Kenny, if I can pull this off, 321 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,824 it will be the slickest thing I ever did in my life." 322 00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:24,163 And I know that there was more to follow... 323 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:27,166 like he didn't finish what he was saying... 324 00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:32,880 and he left with a phone call, and he left out. 325 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,966 I never got to see him again after that. 326 00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:38,289 That was the last thing that Don Lewis ever said to me... 327 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,554 was, "If I can pull this off, 328 00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:43,390 it will be the slickest thing I ever did in my life." 329 00:19:45,058 --> 00:19:47,769 He was shipping some cars down to Costa Rica. 330 00:19:48,478 --> 00:19:51,440 Everything had to be down in Miami Monday morning... 331 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:56,570 and I had to get all the titles to the cars and stuff ready, 332 00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:59,156 but I needed him to tell me something. 333 00:19:59,573 --> 00:20:02,159 I kept waiting for him to call me. He didn't call me. 334 00:20:02,242 --> 00:20:05,454 I started calling him. Didn't answer the phone. 335 00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:06,663 He didn't answer the phone. 336 00:20:07,581 --> 00:20:11,168 This continued all through Saturday, all through Sunday. 337 00:20:11,251 --> 00:20:12,669 I got no answer. 338 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:16,757 I finally got ahold of Carole. 339 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:19,885 She says, "Do you think I should call the police?" 340 00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:22,012 And I said, "Do you think?" 341 00:20:26,141 --> 00:20:30,896 Jack Don Lewis was last seen on August the 18th. 342 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,651 He was reported missing on the 19th by his wife 343 00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,361 at about 1:30 in the afternoon. 344 00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:44,159 The detectives walked the property and drove the proper... 345 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:45,827 Now, you're talking about 40 acres. 346 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,665 Apparently there was nothing there that suggested 347 00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:52,584 that they should pursue that area any further. 348 00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:57,589 There were aerial searches done... but found nothing. 349 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:05,973 Then, after three or four days, we found his van abandoned at an airport. 350 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:11,645 With the keys still in it, his briefcase in it, but no Don Lewis. 351 00:21:13,021 --> 00:21:14,398 And it didn't make sense. 352 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:17,025 Like, with what he said to me, 353 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:20,153 if he was truly wanting to disappear and nobody know where he was at, 354 00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:23,073 would you leave your van where you got in a plane to take off? 355 00:21:23,156 --> 00:21:25,409 You wouldn't want nobody to know you was in the plane, 356 00:21:25,492 --> 00:21:28,495 - because that's now a clue. - You think it was planted? 357 00:21:29,746 --> 00:21:31,957 I think someone else drove the van there. 358 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,959 I don't know if it was planted there. 359 00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:37,546 I think the police did a horrible job... 360 00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:40,257 at the investigation side of it. 361 00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:43,302 The cops never looked at the van when it was at the airport... 362 00:21:44,052 --> 00:21:46,972 and they let them bring that van back to Easy Street. 363 00:21:47,055 --> 00:21:51,018 And it was there for a couple of days before the cops came to look at the van. 364 00:21:51,226 --> 00:21:52,811 To even look in the van. 365 00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:55,105 A couple of days that van sat there. 366 00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:07,576 They came and spoke with me 367 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,412 because they found my fingerprints inside of his van. 368 00:22:11,621 --> 00:22:13,415 Four days before he disappeared, 369 00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:16,209 he dropped his van off for me to do some work to it, 370 00:22:16,543 --> 00:22:18,962 but he tried to talk me into going to Costa Rica. 371 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:21,214 He said, "Come on and go to Costa Rica with me." 372 00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:23,633 Why did he want to go to Costa Rica so badly? 373 00:22:24,092 --> 00:22:25,886 He liked it down there. 374 00:22:29,973 --> 00:22:33,310 The long-term plan, according to the investigation, 375 00:22:33,393 --> 00:22:38,106 was that he would eventually move the Big Cat Rescue, 376 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:41,318 or Wildlife on Easy Street as it was known then, 377 00:22:41,401 --> 00:22:42,986 down to the Costa Rica area. 378 00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:47,741 We actually sent myself and another detective 379 00:22:47,824 --> 00:22:50,077 and did multiple interviews down in Costa Rica. 380 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:53,872 We spent about four or five days in the area 381 00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:57,250 to try and determine if there was any link there at all. 382 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,212 And how would he get to Costa Rica? 383 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,966 He flew commercial out of Miami. 384 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,803 But Don did fly a lot of airplanes. 385 00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:10,806 He owned... I don't know how many airplanes he owned. 386 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,477 But all of his planes were small... 387 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:19,064 and you could not fly those things that far. 388 00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:23,068 It's impossible with the size and types of planes that Don had, 389 00:23:23,151 --> 00:23:27,072 that I know of, that he could nonstop go from here to Costa Rica. 390 00:23:27,155 --> 00:23:29,783 You'd have to make four fuel stops. 391 00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:31,410 It's just not in the cards. 392 00:23:32,619 --> 00:23:36,790 I don't believe that Jack Don Lewis flew to Costa Rica. 393 00:23:36,873 --> 00:23:42,045 There's nothing at all to indicate that Don left his van there 394 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:44,172 and got in a plane and crashed it somewhere. 395 00:23:44,798 --> 00:23:48,593 There was no record of any take-off of an airplane, 396 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:51,680 there was no flight filed. Nothing. 397 00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:57,060 Don lost his pilot's license the day after he got it, 398 00:23:57,144 --> 00:23:59,354 so he never flew legitimately again. 399 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:02,232 Every flight he ever did after that, and there were a lot of them, 400 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:05,110 he was flying illegally, so, no, he wasn't reporting. 401 00:24:06,153 --> 00:24:08,488 He would go down over the Gulf of Mexico, 402 00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:12,033 down underneath the level where radar picks you up. 403 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:16,079 My understanding was... is he went to... 404 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:19,374 evaluate some new plane that was for sale. 405 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:22,919 I was told that he was pushed out of the plane 406 00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:25,547 out of the door 50 feet over the Gulf, way out. 407 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,551 If he had any kind of an accident out over the Gulf, 408 00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:31,178 we never would have found anything. 409 00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:39,019 He had had several plane crashes 410 00:24:39,102 --> 00:24:42,230 and had really damaged himself in one of them, 411 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,942 and I don't think he was ever completely right 412 00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:48,069 after that last crash. 413 00:24:50,113 --> 00:24:53,950 I was seeing behavior in him that just didn't make any sense. 414 00:24:54,034 --> 00:24:57,621 Like, he could remember things from way back when he was a kid, 415 00:24:57,704 --> 00:25:00,457 but he couldn't remember where he was for the last five minutes. 416 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:03,001 And one of our volunteers came to me and said 417 00:25:03,084 --> 00:25:05,086 that that looked like Alzheimer's to him. 418 00:25:05,962 --> 00:25:07,714 Maybe he doesn't know who he is. 419 00:25:07,797 --> 00:25:09,674 Maybe he doesn't know where to call home. 420 00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:14,554 That's all bull. 421 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,391 I don't believe a word about dementia 422 00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:21,520 or forgetfulness or any of that crap. 423 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:24,773 No, no, no. He knew exactly what was going on. 424 00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:26,976 Who, what, where, when, how, why, he knew all of that. 425 00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:28,235 That's not a problem. 426 00:25:28,318 --> 00:25:30,570 Carole says he was an unusual man. 427 00:25:31,404 --> 00:25:33,240 Eccentric is a good word to use. 428 00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:34,950 Carole's smart. 429 00:25:35,325 --> 00:25:37,077 She's setting the stage for... 430 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,413 "He just up and disappeared, and we don't know what the hell happened." 431 00:25:40,997 --> 00:25:44,292 She spent, I'm sure, a lot of time setting the stage 432 00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:47,087 for the dementia and the forgetfulness. 433 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:50,340 According to diary entries allegedly written by Carole, 434 00:25:50,465 --> 00:25:53,802 she was feeling boxed in by Don's notorious cheating. 435 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:55,637 "It's no use to leave him." 436 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,764 "I wish there was some way out for me." 437 00:25:57,847 --> 00:25:59,516 Police combed the area. 438 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,602 But after a year and a half of investigating numerous theories, 439 00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:04,437 police still have no suspects. 440 00:26:06,189 --> 00:26:08,942 Somebody, sometime, someplace, somewhere, somehow, 441 00:26:09,025 --> 00:26:11,278 wanted to be rid of Don Lewis. 442 00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:15,407 And apparently, they got their way. 443 00:26:15,490 --> 00:26:18,785 My understanding was that he was killed. 444 00:26:20,078 --> 00:26:21,078 By? 445 00:26:25,333 --> 00:26:26,585 Won't go there. 446 00:26:36,678 --> 00:26:38,138 I need my clapper! 447 00:26:38,221 --> 00:26:40,265 I need my clapper, Mark, what are you doing? 448 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,880 Go in front of the camera and say, "Take two!" 449 00:26:43,393 --> 00:26:44,394 Take two. 450 00:26:45,145 --> 00:26:48,773 ♪ Everything was fine Just as sweet as wine ♪ 451 00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:52,986 ♪ But her husband went and disappeared ♪ 452 00:26:54,738 --> 00:26:58,908 ♪ But then it got a little crazy It got a little hazy ♪ 453 00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:03,038 ♪ And the cops said There's something wrong here ♪ 454 00:27:04,497 --> 00:27:07,167 ♪ Oh, here, kitty kitty ♪ 455 00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:10,503 The best thing he's done, it's worth just bringing up: 456 00:27:10,587 --> 00:27:14,174 the music video, "Here Kitty Kitty," about Carole killing her husband. 457 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,302 And a look-alike Carole walking along with him 458 00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:20,138 while he's singing, feeding body parts to her cats. 459 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,433 He's got extreme shit. 460 00:27:23,516 --> 00:27:26,356 You haven't seen "Here Kitty Kitty," you don't know what you're missing. 461 00:27:27,437 --> 00:27:30,982 Joe had everyone convinced she'd murdered her husband, 462 00:27:31,066 --> 00:27:33,985 and we were all going with it. And me, as a reality show producer? 463 00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:37,405 Oh, I was... "Fuck yeah, man, roll the cameras," you know? 464 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:39,199 So the whole world's wondering, 465 00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:40,992 did you actually grind your husband up 466 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:43,453 and feed him to the tigers so there's no evidence? 467 00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:45,747 I'm gonna show you some stuff 468 00:27:46,122 --> 00:27:48,083 that will put that right in your head. 469 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,835 ♪ But you can't prosecute There's just no use ♪ 470 00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:56,007 ♪ There's nothing left but tiger tracks ♪ 471 00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:02,222 People want to believe something that's just totally outlandish, 472 00:28:02,305 --> 00:28:04,849 and so it has been a problem. 473 00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:10,647 These tigers have such an acidic stomach 474 00:28:11,147 --> 00:28:14,150 that when you feed them a whole turkey, 475 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:18,113 there's no bones that come out, okay? It's gone. 476 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:23,759 Is there any chance Don had been killed by one of his cats? 477 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:25,078 - No. - Why? 478 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:26,955 Didn't happen. 479 00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:30,542 There'd be a body, there'd be blood, there'd be this, there'd be that. 480 00:28:30,625 --> 00:28:35,338 No. There wasn't a cat out there that could eat 100 pounds of flesh. 481 00:28:36,756 --> 00:28:39,426 There'd be a skeleton. There'd be bones. There'd be something. 482 00:28:40,176 --> 00:28:45,014 His own kids demanded that they DNA test the meat grinder. 483 00:28:47,308 --> 00:28:49,102 Sheriff's office wouldn't do it. 484 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,312 We had a meat grinder. 485 00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,565 If you've ever seen a Butcher Boy meat grinder, 486 00:28:53,648 --> 00:28:55,233 it's about that big around. 487 00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:58,778 That became, like, this wholly exciting thing, 488 00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:01,364 that I ran him through that grinder, and it's like, 489 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:05,118 I couldn't have run his hand through the grinder, much less a body. 490 00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:11,332 I mean, there's another theory that one of the buildings they built, 491 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,586 there's a septic tank underneath it... that he was put in that. 492 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,424 If we could ever get the law to go in there 493 00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:21,134 and dig up that septic tank, 494 00:29:21,217 --> 00:29:23,678 I promise you he's underneath that damn thing. 495 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:27,390 Hey, Carole, it's a voice from your past. 496 00:29:28,057 --> 00:29:31,102 Get me the fuck out from under the septic tank. 497 00:29:32,061 --> 00:29:34,856 It was in the ground, it was operational, 498 00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:37,817 Judy had moved into the property before Don ever disappeared, 499 00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:40,737 so how would I have then put him in the septic tank? 500 00:29:46,075 --> 00:29:48,661 I believe that there's a lot of people out there 501 00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:51,998 that are speculating and don't have anything to back it up. 502 00:29:52,582 --> 00:29:54,959 One day, somebody's gonna stub their toe. 503 00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:57,295 There is a god... 504 00:29:58,046 --> 00:29:59,422 her name is karma, 505 00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:01,007 and she has a sick sense of humor. 506 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,555 Yeah, we heard all the stories. 507 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:13,228 We've done everything we could do in terms of trying to put those to rest, 508 00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:15,313 but sometimes legally, there... 509 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:17,649 You can't pursue exactly what you'd like to do. 510 00:30:17,732 --> 00:30:19,532 You have to stay within the bounds of the law. 511 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:25,657 Anybody could be a suspect. Now, having said that, 512 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,784 clearly the most information that we're gonna get 513 00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:30,745 are the people that were closest to Don, so that's where we've looked. 514 00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:35,625 Anne McQueen was probably the closest person alive to Don Lewis. 515 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,795 She watched out for his best interests, he watched her back. 516 00:30:39,254 --> 00:30:43,258 Don trusted Anne with every penny he had. 517 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:45,218 He would've been lost without her. 518 00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:52,559 I cooperated in every form and fashion that they wanted me to cooperate. 519 00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:54,727 Who were the other suspects? 520 00:30:54,811 --> 00:30:56,145 I think it was me and Carole. 521 00:30:58,898 --> 00:31:02,652 In any investigation like this, you go to... 522 00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:05,572 the husband or the wife 523 00:31:05,655 --> 00:31:09,826 or whatever close family member that is still surviving 524 00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:11,911 or still around that you can interview. 525 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Carole's brother was a member of the sheriff's department, 526 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:19,961 and I think he maintained 527 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:21,754 some sort of, well, you know... 528 00:31:21,838 --> 00:31:24,924 "That's my sister, I want you to tread lightly." 529 00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,719 And I don't know that happened, but... 530 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,932 I'm sure he wouldn't just stand there and do nothing. 531 00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:34,896 Her brother worked for the sheriff's department, 532 00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:39,272 but I don't think... I don't think that there was collusion there. 533 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,362 I never really knew my brother, because... 534 00:31:46,946 --> 00:31:50,867 Fosh, by the time I was 15, he would have been, what, nine. 535 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:55,038 So we never had much of a relationship. 536 00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:57,874 It's funny, he grew up to be a sheriff's deputy, 537 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,757 which was the last thing I ever thought my brother would grow up to be, 538 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:03,296 because he was so shy. 539 00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:06,090 The day that Don went missing... 540 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:12,722 the investigation indicated Carole had left Wildlife on Easy Street 541 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:16,517 to drive to a nearby store named Albertsons 542 00:32:16,601 --> 00:32:18,937 to pick up some milk byproducts for the cats. 543 00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,480 At three o'clock in the morning. 544 00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:25,944 Her car broke down, and Carole ran into her brother, 545 00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:28,863 who was accompanied by another deputy. 546 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:34,243 The second deputy gave her a ride back to her home. 547 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,079 After that, 548 00:32:36,871 --> 00:32:40,291 Carole indicated the last time that she saw her husband 549 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:44,045 was just several hours later, and he was never seen again. 550 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:46,339 And I don't know, but I would have hoped 551 00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:49,050 that the detectives would have pursued that and made sure that... 552 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,388 there was nothing... out of the ordinary about that. 553 00:32:55,848 --> 00:32:58,518 Maybe if you have a sheriff that's in there that's saying, 554 00:32:58,601 --> 00:33:02,939 you know, this guy is kinda crazy and, you know, dementia, 555 00:33:03,022 --> 00:33:04,959 and he does this all the time, he's probably in... 556 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:08,045 Maybe the sheriff's department would drag their feet at that point and be like, 557 00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:10,029 "Well, let's just wait and see where it goes." 558 00:33:13,741 --> 00:33:17,870 In her family, there just wasn't a lot of love for Don. 559 00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:22,875 I know her father, Carole's father, Vernon, could not stand him. 560 00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:24,836 Absolutely could not stand Don. 561 00:33:25,294 --> 00:33:28,673 So, Carole's dad, Vernon, come and built cages with me. 562 00:33:30,174 --> 00:33:31,759 He definitely had his daughter's back. 563 00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:37,598 I just felt like Carole did something, and they needed to protect her... 564 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:40,852 and get the money. Let's get the money. 565 00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:46,441 After Don disappeared, Carole and Vernon, her dad, had asked me... 566 00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:50,695 "Kenny, we need to get something from the office." 567 00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:54,782 And I'd like to say, I had did this kind of stuff 568 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,993 for Don Lewis for years. 569 00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:59,276 When he needed something done, I would go do it for him. 570 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:07,128 I got a phone call stating that the office alarm had gone off, 571 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:09,005 and Carole was there. 572 00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:13,718 Her and Kenny Farr had cut the locks on the gate, 573 00:34:14,093 --> 00:34:16,095 cut the locks on the office. 574 00:34:16,929 --> 00:34:21,392 Cut the power to the trailer, cut the water, cut the sewer. 575 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,478 The cops came because the alarm went off. 576 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:27,482 Anne McQueen come up because that was her office, 577 00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:29,358 know what I mean? She's been here for years. 578 00:34:29,442 --> 00:34:33,488 There were two wills, and there were two power of attorney 579 00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:37,533 in my office in a box underneath my desk. 580 00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:41,412 But whatever paperwork or whatever they needed, 581 00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:45,416 there was nothing... that the cops could do 582 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,669 to stop the wife taking anything. 583 00:34:50,046 --> 00:34:51,806 The will and the power of attorney, 584 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:53,925 they were all taken out of the office that day. 585 00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:01,599 I was executor for both of their wills. 586 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:05,394 I was the power of attorney for both of them. 587 00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:10,233 Who was the power of attorney on the new documents Carole produced? 588 00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:12,651 Not me. 589 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:18,658 That new power of attorney gave her control over the estate. 590 00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:22,995 But she prepared his power of attorney. 591 00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:28,793 A normal person would put "Upon my death," you know. 592 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,712 First sentence, "Upon my disappearance." 593 00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:37,510 Isn't it suspicious that the power of attorney says, "Upon my disappearance"? 594 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,220 Is that normal verbiage? 595 00:35:39,846 --> 00:35:45,309 I have, in 37 years, never seen it say, "Or disappearance." 596 00:35:45,935 --> 00:35:46,935 Never have. 597 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,356 Um, in that respect, this is terribly unusual. 598 00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:52,775 I don't know who anticipates... 599 00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,318 Everybody anticipates their death, 600 00:35:54,402 --> 00:35:57,071 but who in the world anticipates disappearance? 601 00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:03,161 And how did Carole behave in the aftermath of his disappearance? 602 00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:05,538 After Don disappeared, 603 00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:10,001 Carole and her family got rid of everybody that worked for Don. 604 00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:15,882 They got rid of everything... that he owned. 605 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:21,095 There was a note pinned to the refrigerator door that said, 606 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,473 "Never speak that man's name again in this house." 607 00:36:26,601 --> 00:36:28,394 Do you remember that, Donna telling us that? 608 00:36:28,477 --> 00:36:30,037 - I forgot. - I remember that very well. 609 00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:36,569 But then what about all of Don's assets? 610 00:36:36,652 --> 00:36:38,196 Not the insurance policy. Was there... 611 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:39,614 I had nothing to do with that. 612 00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:41,699 All his real estate, all of his holdings? 613 00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:43,993 All went under his will, didn't it? 614 00:36:44,702 --> 00:36:48,706 The will wouldn't have come into play because if you disappear, 615 00:36:49,248 --> 00:36:52,376 you can't do anything for five years. 616 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:57,882 So Carole had him declared legally dead 617 00:36:58,633 --> 00:37:01,135 five years and one day after he disappeared. 618 00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:05,953 Here's the latest on the case. 619 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:08,643 A judge has just declared Lewis dead 620 00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:10,186 since he's been missing five years, 621 00:37:10,269 --> 00:37:12,069 but Hillsborough County Sheriff's deputies say 622 00:37:12,146 --> 00:37:15,650 they will keep the case open until they have proof. 623 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,948 A lot of things happened during those five years. 624 00:37:22,448 --> 00:37:24,784 A lot of things were moved around. 625 00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:27,703 She took out a lot of good things for herself 626 00:37:27,787 --> 00:37:30,039 and put in bad things in their accounts. 627 00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:31,916 We ended up with all the yucky stuff. 628 00:37:33,125 --> 00:37:38,172 She was taking property out of Don's name and our names 629 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:39,882 and putting it in her name. 630 00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:44,220 I was the other woman for years. 631 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:45,930 After the kids came back 632 00:37:46,013 --> 00:37:48,766 and they said that the mother didn't get a fair settlement 633 00:37:48,849 --> 00:37:51,495 and they tried to take him back to court, get more money out of him, 634 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:55,356 that's when he disowned them. And so he said to nullify their trust, 635 00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:57,479 but I didn't because I felt like those are his kids. 636 00:37:57,566 --> 00:37:59,360 And someday he's going to feel differently, 637 00:37:59,443 --> 00:38:00,945 so I left it in place. 638 00:38:05,366 --> 00:38:07,702 So what's the theory that makes the most sense? 639 00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:11,289 Well, there's no proof. 640 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:15,710 I feel the one that would benefit the most 641 00:38:15,793 --> 00:38:18,087 from something happening to my father... 642 00:38:18,629 --> 00:38:20,256 um... is Carol. 643 00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:22,174 She knows. 644 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,387 You've got to look at it in the eyes of the law. 645 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:30,391 I mean, I can sit here on this interview and tell you I'd kill 37 people a week. 646 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:31,975 Well, that's okay... 647 00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:34,603 but you got to have the bodies... 648 00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,897 or it doesn't count. 649 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:38,733 Oh! You got me! 650 00:38:38,941 --> 00:38:41,319 His wife says the worst part is not knowing. 651 00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:44,322 No closure and no redemption for her. 652 00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:46,008 There's no way that I can finally say, 653 00:38:46,115 --> 00:38:47,908 "See! I didn't do it!" 654 00:38:49,035 --> 00:38:50,035 I can't do it. 655 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:54,707 Nothing has ever shown up on this case whatsoever. 656 00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:57,793 That poor woman is having to live under a cloud of suspicion all this time. 657 00:38:57,877 --> 00:38:58,711 She sure is. 658 00:38:58,794 --> 00:39:00,194 Hell, for the fun of it, let's see, 659 00:39:00,254 --> 00:39:01,714 Carole's bitching that... 660 00:39:01,797 --> 00:39:03,716 she has this black cloud over her head 661 00:39:03,799 --> 00:39:06,677 of people thinking that she fed her husband to the tigers. 662 00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:11,057 I mean, imagine that maybe she didn't have anything to do with it, 663 00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:13,726 and let's say she did love Don, 664 00:39:13,809 --> 00:39:17,021 and she did mourn his death tremendously. 665 00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:19,440 To live with people 666 00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:23,486 constantly saying those things and making those accusations, 667 00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:28,491 you know, that can be hurtful and can change a person too. 668 00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:35,331 - Was there ever a formal memorial... - No. 669 00:39:35,414 --> 00:39:36,791 ...or funeral or anything? 670 00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:38,542 - No. - So no one... 671 00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:42,129 I remember the day his death certificate came... 672 00:39:43,255 --> 00:39:47,051 I opened the letter and I just... 673 00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:49,136 I remember looking out the window 674 00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:52,348 and then the next time that I remembered anything 675 00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:53,682 it was pitch black outside. 676 00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:56,394 It was just like I had just completely zoned out. 677 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:58,229 I don't know where I went, 678 00:39:58,312 --> 00:40:02,233 but that was the closest thing that I had to a memorial. 679 00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:05,986 And what about the money in the end? 680 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:11,158 We definitely did not end up, um, with, um... 681 00:40:12,451 --> 00:40:14,745 If I had to say it, probably ten percent. 682 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,792 You inherited only ten percent of his estate? 683 00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:21,794 Mm-hmm. 684 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:23,629 And where did the rest go? 685 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:26,047 Carole. 686 00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:33,556 There is a science of getting rich, 687 00:40:34,014 --> 00:40:36,142 and it is an exact science. 688 00:40:37,309 --> 00:40:41,021 The ownership of money and property 689 00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,983 comes from doing things in a certain way. 690 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,027 Those who do things in a certain way, 691 00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:50,865 whether on purpose or accidentally, 692 00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:52,783 get rich. 693 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:06,130 Relative to most... animal people, 694 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:11,260 I would characterize her as reasonably rational. 695 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,641 We met on November 1st in 2002. 696 00:41:18,767 --> 00:41:21,812 On November 1st of 2004, we got married. 697 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:27,610 My number one goal in life is gonna be to make this woman happy. 698 00:41:37,077 --> 00:41:39,330 I'd love to be able to attend a funeral, 699 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,291 see a headstone. 700 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:45,503 I would like closure. 701 00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:47,630 And what about justice? 702 00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:49,590 That would be nice... 703 00:41:50,549 --> 00:41:53,135 but I've never been a greedy person. 704 00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,640 We all feel... 705 00:41:57,932 --> 00:42:01,602 that Carole knows more than what she's telling. 706 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,067 There's nothing that I really want to say to any of these people. 707 00:42:08,484 --> 00:42:10,402 I know that the only reason 708 00:42:10,486 --> 00:42:12,655 that they are saying the things that they're saying 709 00:42:12,738 --> 00:42:14,740 is because they see me as a threat 710 00:42:14,823 --> 00:42:17,159 to their livelihood and to their ego. 711 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:21,914 And with that being their driving motivation, 712 00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:24,792 there's nothing I'm gonna say or do that's gonna change that. 713 00:42:31,757 --> 00:42:35,469 We never felt that it was investigated well enough. 714 00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:41,016 They did say Carole was the prime suspect at the time, 715 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,727 but until, like she said, until someone comes forward... 716 00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:45,211 Until someone would come forward... 717 00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:51,485 I cannot tell you that we have zeroed in on any particular suspect. 718 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,362 I'd be remiss if I said that. 719 00:42:53,445 --> 00:42:58,409 There is absolutely no physical evidence at this point in time 720 00:42:58,492 --> 00:43:00,869 that would point at one particular individual. 721 00:43:03,455 --> 00:43:05,332 When we started to speak out... 722 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:09,128 we did People magazine. 723 00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:15,426 Inside Edition came to talk to us, and Hard Copy I believe wanted to. 724 00:43:15,509 --> 00:43:18,971 That's when we got the thing from Carole to stop. 725 00:43:19,054 --> 00:43:21,307 "I have the money, you do not, 726 00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:24,101 and if you continue talking, 727 00:43:24,476 --> 00:43:28,564 I will take everything away from you and your family." 728 00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:33,115 That's why we haven't spoken out. 729 00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:35,696 'Cause you're afraid of Carole Baskin? 730 00:43:35,779 --> 00:43:37,281 Oh, yes, I am. 731 00:43:38,157 --> 00:43:39,199 I am. 732 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,125 I'm taking Carole on 733 00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:51,211 because everyone else is scared to. 734 00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:55,924 She has a lot of answering to do. 735 00:43:58,260 --> 00:43:59,386 Her day is coming.60986

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