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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,050 --> 00:00:11,053 - [man] 9-1-1, what's your emergency?-[woman] I, I... 2 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:13,722 - Hello?-I, I don't know. I think... 3 00:00:13,805 --> 00:00:15,140 Ma'am, what's your emergency? 4 00:00:15,224 --> 00:00:18,477 - Uh, he's dead, he's dead.-[child] Mom? 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,438 [repeated beeping] 6 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:22,523 [child] Daddy! 7 00:00:22,606 --> 00:00:24,358 [reporter] Former Stanford professorand cult author... 8 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:25,817 - No! Come on, please.-...killed in his own home 9 00:00:25,901 --> 00:00:27,236 while his wife and daughters slept... 10 00:00:27,319 --> 00:00:29,029 [woman reporter]Chuck Buhrman was murdered in his home, 11 00:00:29,112 --> 00:00:31,114 -stabbed multiple times.-[girl sobbing] 12 00:00:32,031 --> 00:00:34,660 [female reporter] Sixteen-year-old WarrenCave was taken into custody this morning. 13 00:00:34,743 --> 00:00:37,287 [male reporter] Witnesses sawCave and the victim in a heated argument 14 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:38,830 - during the Halloween party.-[female reporter] Judge ruled today 15 00:00:38,914 --> 00:00:40,916 that the 16-year-old boywill be tried as an adult. 16 00:01:05,357 --> 00:01:07,234 [beeping] 17 00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:34,970 - [woman] May I proceed, Your Honor?-[judge] You may proceed. 18 00:01:35,637 --> 00:01:40,017 This was testimony given by the witnessat the June 2000 trial of Warren Cave. 19 00:01:42,227 --> 00:01:44,688 [woman] You said a noise woke you up. Is that correct? 20 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:45,814 Yes. 21 00:01:45,898 --> 00:01:47,399 [woman]After you woke up, what did you do? 22 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:50,152 I looked out my window and sawsomeone jumping the fence. 23 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,197 Could you please identify that person? 24 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:55,407 My neighbor, Warren Cave. 25 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:56,950 Are you sure? 26 00:01:58,118 --> 00:01:59,119 100 percent. 27 00:01:59,203 --> 00:02:00,329 Once more. 28 00:02:01,330 --> 00:02:02,456 Are you sure? 29 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:04,708 100 percent. 30 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:08,711 Now, this is her statementto the police six months earlier. 31 00:02:10,088 --> 00:02:12,466 [man] Lanie, on Halloween night, the night of the murder, 32 00:02:12,549 --> 00:02:15,969 did you see the personbefore they jumped the fence? 33 00:02:17,596 --> 00:02:18,597 I think so. 34 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:21,433 [man] You think so? 35 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:23,227 [clears throat] 36 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:31,026 I'm pretty sure. 37 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:33,695 [man]Now, one more time, Lanie. 38 00:02:33,779 --> 00:02:37,032 Did you recognize the individualwho jumped the back fence? 39 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,034 [woman] Go ahead. 40 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:43,497 Say it. 41 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:46,792 Yes. It was Warren. 42 00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:49,378 [man] Warren Cave? 43 00:02:50,295 --> 00:02:51,421 [Lanie] Yes. 44 00:02:52,256 --> 00:02:54,466 Is this the bulk of your new evidence, Ms. Cedillo? 45 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:57,594 Yes. And if I may, Your Honor, it's obvious from the new video 46 00:02:57,678 --> 00:02:59,555 - she was coached into a statement... Obvious to you. 47 00:02:59,638 --> 00:03:02,224 Hold on. Let me tell you what can be argued. 48 00:03:02,516 --> 00:03:04,434 The trial footage shows a young woman 49 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:07,062 who's had six monthsto process her father's death 50 00:03:07,145 --> 00:03:08,605 and the events of that night. 51 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:11,525 In the found footage, I see a distraught teenage girl 52 00:03:11,608 --> 00:03:15,612 being questioned a mere 48 hoursafter the brutal murder of her father. 53 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:18,407 These are trying circumstancesfor the best of us. 54 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:22,119 But there is not enough evidenceto constitute a new trial. 55 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:23,328 Motion denied. 56 00:03:24,079 --> 00:03:25,414 My son is innocent. 57 00:03:27,624 --> 00:03:30,878 [judge] I'm sorry, Ms. Cave. I hope you find some peace. 58 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:34,798 Why doesn't anyone seethat my son is innocent? 59 00:03:50,606 --> 00:03:53,567 [woman] She won a Pulitzer Prizefor her investigative journalism work 60 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:57,362 during her 20 years at The New York Times before leaving to start what has become 61 00:03:57,446 --> 00:04:00,574 one of the most populartrue crime podcasts on iTunes. 62 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:03,660 Here to discuss the changing landscapeof American journalism, 63 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:06,246 it is my pleasureto welcome Poppy Parnell. 64 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:08,582 [applause] 65 00:04:11,877 --> 00:04:16,714 Ben Bradlee, a titan of journalism, had a quote: 66 00:04:17,132 --> 00:04:23,222 "As long as a journalist tells the truth, in conscience and fairness... 67 00:04:24,056 --> 00:04:26,934 it's not his jobto worry about consequences." 68 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:31,897 The truth is never as dangerous as a liein the long run. 69 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:33,774 [woman] Say it. 70 00:04:34,483 --> 00:04:35,484 [Lanie] It was Warren. 71 00:04:35,901 --> 00:04:37,194 My son is innocent. 72 00:04:40,656 --> 00:04:43,534 The truth is the only guide. 73 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,137 - Poppy?-In the kitchen! 74 00:05:07,683 --> 00:05:10,185 What's... What's going on? 75 00:05:11,186 --> 00:05:13,814 [sighs] Thought I'd cook. 76 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:16,441 The queen of takeout? 77 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:19,444 You haven't fired up that stovesince we moved in. 78 00:05:19,528 --> 00:05:21,196 So it's about time then. 79 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:24,825 What is going on? 80 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:27,327 Just have to start the roux. 81 00:05:33,125 --> 00:05:34,626 Let me ask you a question. 82 00:05:35,169 --> 00:05:36,503 Hit me. 83 00:05:36,587 --> 00:05:38,589 - If...-[sighs] 84 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:42,467 A man got convicted of murderbased off eyewitness testimony, 85 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:44,970 you know, somebody saw him leaving the scene, 86 00:05:45,721 --> 00:05:49,099 and then you find outthat eyewitness was coached, 87 00:05:49,183 --> 00:05:51,393 shouldn't that be enoughto get him a new trial? 88 00:05:53,061 --> 00:05:54,396 Who are we talking about? 89 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:56,273 Warren Cave. 90 00:05:57,608 --> 00:06:00,777 What? The kid that you wrotethe story about 20 years ago? 91 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:01,862 Nineteen. 92 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,489 There was a hearing today. 93 00:06:04,907 --> 00:06:08,994 The defense got their hands on a videotapeof Lanie Buhrman's statement. 94 00:06:09,411 --> 00:06:11,121 She was lying. I know it. 95 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:12,873 I got... 96 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:18,504 all these awards hanging in my officefrom those articles about Warren. 97 00:06:18,587 --> 00:06:20,839 That entire series launched my career, 98 00:06:20,923 --> 00:06:24,051 and now I can't stop wonderingif I was wrong. 99 00:06:24,134 --> 00:06:27,387 You didn't investigate the crime, Poppy. You wrote the stories. 100 00:06:28,138 --> 00:06:33,644 But my stories got the whole worldto think that he was evil incarnate. 101 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:35,938 I'm the reason he got tried as an adult. 102 00:06:36,605 --> 00:06:38,232 Remember the one juror that got dismissed 103 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:41,235 because they found him reading my articlesduring the lunch break? 104 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:45,364 Oh, my God, Ingram, if he's innocent... 105 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:47,491 Hey, come on. You have to let this go. 106 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:55,040 Yeah. I mean, there's nothing I can doabout it anyway, right? 107 00:06:55,123 --> 00:06:57,417 No, listen, hey, you saw it in action. Okay? 108 00:06:57,501 --> 00:06:59,920 The chances of overturning a verdict 109 00:07:00,003 --> 00:07:03,757 or even getting a retrialare a million to one. 110 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:05,717 Now... 111 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:10,931 can I call somewhereto make a reservation? 112 00:07:11,849 --> 00:07:15,060 Please.'Cause this is not going to end well. 113 00:07:15,143 --> 00:07:17,646 - You know?-I'm gonna make it just to spite you. 114 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:19,268 [shuffling noise] 115 00:09:19,351 --> 00:09:21,728 - Hey.-Hey, yourself. 116 00:09:21,812 --> 00:09:24,481 - I want to do a different story.-No shit. 117 00:09:24,565 --> 00:09:26,275 Warren Cave. Thanks. 118 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:33,991 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 119 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:39,913 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Josie and Lanie ♪ 120 00:09:39,997 --> 00:09:42,165 - ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪-[Poppy] We all know those families. 121 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:44,501 The ones at the centerof their neighborhood. 122 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:47,129 The ones with the happiest marriage, 123 00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:49,047 -the perfect kids.-And there you go. 124 00:09:49,131 --> 00:09:53,135 The greenest lawn, the most loyal dog, the brightest Christmas lights. 125 00:09:54,136 --> 00:09:58,015 The ones that are effectively... perfect? 126 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:00,350 - [woman] Merry Christmas.-[man] Look right over here. 127 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:04,229 In Menlo Park, the Buhrmans were that family. 128 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:10,944 Chuck, a celebrated author and respectedprofessor at Stanford University. 129 00:10:11,028 --> 00:10:15,699 Erin, a talented artist who put her careeron hold to raise a family. 130 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,621 And Lanie and Josie, their high-achieving twin daughters. 131 00:10:21,163 --> 00:10:27,628 A perfect life shatteredon October 31, 1999. 132 00:10:29,379 --> 00:10:32,007 Here's what Menlo Park Policesay happened. 133 00:10:32,841 --> 00:10:34,510 Chuck Buhrman was up late, 134 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:38,472 catching up on workafter the family's annual Halloween party. 135 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:41,225 He sent 11 e-mails after midnight, 136 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:44,811 the last one at 2:44 a.m. 137 00:10:44,895 --> 00:10:47,564 All work-related and all routine. 138 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:51,944 The assailant entered through a back door. 139 00:10:52,653 --> 00:10:56,949 With his wife and daughters upstairs, Chuck went to investigate. 140 00:10:59,034 --> 00:11:01,620 [grunting] 141 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:08,836 He made it to the doorway of his officewhere the bulk of the attack took place. 142 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:10,712 [gasps] 143 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:14,341 The assailant escapedthrough the back door, 144 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:18,011 hopped over the back fenceand disappeared into the darkness. 145 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,100 Chuck's body was found the next morningby his wife, Erin. 146 00:11:23,976 --> 00:11:28,272 Erin, along with twin daughters, Josie and Lanie, 147 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,233 had slept through the slaughter. 148 00:11:31,316 --> 00:11:34,194 The case against Warrenwas largely circumstantial. 149 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,906 Police did not have a witnessto the actual attack. 150 00:11:38,532 --> 00:11:41,910 They didn't find Warren's DNAanywhere on Chuck's body, 151 00:11:41,994 --> 00:11:45,497 and they never recoveredthe murder weapon. 152 00:11:45,831 --> 00:11:50,252 But there were two pieces of hard evidencelinking him to the crime scene. 153 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:52,546 Fingerprints found near the body 154 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:57,718 and the testimony of Chuck's15-year-old daughter, Lanie Buhrman. 155 00:11:57,801 --> 00:12:02,347 But what if Warren Cavedidn't kill Chuck Buhrman? 156 00:12:02,848 --> 00:12:07,853 And if Warren didn't, who did and why? 157 00:12:10,856 --> 00:12:12,357 - You see what's missing?-Yeah. 158 00:12:12,441 --> 00:12:14,776 We need Warren. No Warren, no story. 159 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:16,904 - If I could be so bold.-Yeah. Shoot. 160 00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:18,822 Why would he ever talk to you? 161 00:12:18,906 --> 00:12:20,365 Because I could help him. 162 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:22,201 You really think he's innocent? 163 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:25,495 I don't know. But I need to find out. 164 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,917 - [Poppy] He won't see me, Des.-You can't be surprised by that. 165 00:12:30,501 --> 00:12:32,628 So why are you letting it stop you? 166 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:34,963 You need him, right? 167 00:12:35,297 --> 00:12:39,218 Without Warren, it's just me tellinga story indulging in my own guilt. But... 168 00:12:39,301 --> 00:12:40,469 No. Don't "but." 169 00:12:41,053 --> 00:12:42,721 Don't bullshit. 170 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:45,098 You can lie to everybody but me. 171 00:12:45,182 --> 00:12:47,351 Being told "no" has never stopped you. 172 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,560 Now you're talking shit. 173 00:12:48,644 --> 00:12:51,980 You will bulldog the shit out of somethingif someone else is doing wrong 174 00:12:52,064 --> 00:12:53,106 or if it's about work. 175 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:56,318 But when it's about you, the real, you're out. 176 00:12:56,401 --> 00:12:57,528 That's not true. 177 00:12:58,070 --> 00:13:00,030 Remember your ex, Markus? 178 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,199 [scoffs] He cheated. What was I supposed to do? 179 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:04,952 I don't know. Cuss him out. But you just jetted. 180 00:13:05,035 --> 00:13:06,703 You took a jobyou weren't even thinking about. 181 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:09,706 - It was The New York Times!-It was a broken heart. 182 00:13:14,002 --> 00:13:15,212 For reals though. 183 00:13:16,964 --> 00:13:18,048 You're scared. 184 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:21,051 'Cause you don't wannalook Warren in the face. 185 00:13:21,510 --> 00:13:22,511 I don't. 186 00:13:23,387 --> 00:13:24,513 But you're gonna have to. 187 00:13:24,596 --> 00:13:26,473 You will not be able to live with yourself 188 00:13:26,557 --> 00:13:29,768 if you were wrong, and he has suffered because of it. 189 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:32,271 I helped to put him where he is. 190 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:34,356 And you could be the reason he gets out. 191 00:13:34,815 --> 00:13:37,067 Woman up. Handle that. 192 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:40,654 Do whatever you have to doto get in there and see him. 193 00:13:53,292 --> 00:13:54,376 Mrs. Cave. 194 00:13:56,962 --> 00:13:58,630 Get off my property. 195 00:13:58,714 --> 00:14:00,090 I just need a minute. 196 00:14:00,674 --> 00:14:01,675 Go to hell. 197 00:14:04,678 --> 00:14:06,555 Damn it! Damn it. 198 00:14:07,139 --> 00:14:08,432 Just hear me out. 199 00:14:10,017 --> 00:14:11,977 Doing a new podcast series... 200 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:15,022 entirely about Warren. 201 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,109 [sighs] What? 202 00:14:19,693 --> 00:14:23,405 In order for it to work, I need to talk to your son. 203 00:14:24,781 --> 00:14:28,744 Which is why I was hopingyou could help me get in to see him. 204 00:14:31,163 --> 00:14:33,582 - Are you kidding me?-This could help him. 205 00:14:33,916 --> 00:14:36,293 Create public pressureto maybe get him another trial. 206 00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:39,129 What, suddenly you give a shit? 207 00:14:40,464 --> 00:14:42,466 I would be skeptical too. 208 00:14:49,348 --> 00:14:52,768 But if he is innocent, maybe I cando something to make a difference. 209 00:14:53,977 --> 00:14:57,439 What did my son want to becomewhen he was growing up? 210 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:02,027 What was his favorite subject in school? 211 00:15:03,195 --> 00:15:05,197 Did he sleep with a night-light? 212 00:15:06,615 --> 00:15:07,908 You don't know. 213 00:15:07,991 --> 00:15:12,621 Because you never wanted to know becausethat would've made my son a human being. 214 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:17,835 Instead of this twisted creature thatyou were so desperately trying to sell. 215 00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:20,754 You exploited my son once. 216 00:15:21,046 --> 00:15:22,047 Mm-mmm. 217 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:24,800 Never gonna let that happen again. 218 00:15:25,551 --> 00:15:26,802 Okay, I know. 219 00:15:27,219 --> 00:15:30,556 I know you hate me. And you probably deserve to. 220 00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:31,974 Yeah. 221 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:36,311 But if you're running out of time, what have you got to lose? 222 00:15:37,855 --> 00:15:38,856 What? 223 00:15:39,273 --> 00:15:40,440 Does Warren know? 224 00:15:42,651 --> 00:15:44,319 Know what? What are you talking about? 225 00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:45,988 My mother. 226 00:15:46,738 --> 00:15:47,948 Breast cancer. 227 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,827 She had the same diet during chemo. 228 00:15:52,828 --> 00:15:54,454 How long did they give you? 229 00:15:54,830 --> 00:15:55,914 Six months. 230 00:15:57,291 --> 00:15:58,292 When? 231 00:15:59,751 --> 00:16:01,128 Four months ago. 232 00:16:02,588 --> 00:16:04,548 Then let me help you. 233 00:16:07,593 --> 00:16:09,136 You're a horrible woman. 234 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,389 Stop using usto make yourself feel better. 235 00:16:14,892 --> 00:16:15,893 Mela... 236 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:17,686 Well, maybe we don't need him. 237 00:16:17,769 --> 00:16:20,355 There's so many other waysto dig into this story. 238 00:16:20,439 --> 00:16:23,483 Noa, I appreciate the positive spin, 239 00:16:23,567 --> 00:16:27,529 but this story is about freeinga potentially innocent man. 240 00:16:27,613 --> 00:16:29,948 If I don't talk to that man, I don't have a story. 241 00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,533 But if you can't get to Warren... 242 00:16:31,617 --> 00:16:32,826 I'll find another way. 243 00:16:33,577 --> 00:16:35,787 What about you? You get anything? 244 00:16:35,871 --> 00:16:37,456 Nothing on Erin or Josie, 245 00:16:37,539 --> 00:16:40,751 but Lanie Buhrman, you won't believe what she's doing now. 246 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:41,919 What about her? 247 00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,921 She's working as a death doula. 248 00:16:44,922 --> 00:16:46,048 What's that? 249 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,550 Same as a birth doula except death. 250 00:16:48,884 --> 00:16:52,721 The daughter of a murder victimhelps people to die. 251 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:55,432 I will never fuckingunderstand California. 252 00:16:55,516 --> 00:16:57,559 [acoustic guitar playing] 253 00:16:59,186 --> 00:17:01,522 [man singing ballad] 254 00:18:16,346 --> 00:18:19,349 [heavy breathing] 255 00:18:21,977 --> 00:18:22,978 Ahh. 256 00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:29,359 [song ends] 257 00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:34,698 - Can I help you?-Are you Lanie Buhrman? 258 00:18:35,699 --> 00:18:37,534 - Who's asking?-My name is Poppy Parnell. 259 00:18:37,618 --> 00:18:39,161 I'm here to talk about Warren Cave. 260 00:18:39,244 --> 00:18:40,662 - Not interested.-Ms. Buhrman, please. 261 00:18:40,746 --> 00:18:43,123 Dunn. Lanie Dunn. I don't use Buhrman anymore. 262 00:18:43,582 --> 00:18:45,042 It attracts creeps. 263 00:18:45,501 --> 00:18:48,462 - I'd like to talk to you about... I know what you wanna talk to me about. 264 00:18:48,545 --> 00:18:50,214 I am not interested. 265 00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:52,132 I saw the video of your statement. 266 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:54,885 [child] Mom! 267 00:18:57,387 --> 00:18:58,680 Everything all right? 268 00:18:58,764 --> 00:19:00,307 Yeah. We're all done here. Right? 269 00:19:00,933 --> 00:19:02,309 Thank you for your time. 270 00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:04,561 - Mom!-Hey. Come here! 271 00:19:04,645 --> 00:19:07,064 - Hi. How are you?-Good. Who's that? 272 00:19:07,648 --> 00:19:08,815 Nobody. 273 00:19:08,899 --> 00:19:10,442 Hi. Hi, hi, hi. 274 00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:26,667 [woman] "He who dwellsin the shelter of the Most High 275 00:19:27,209 --> 00:19:29,294 will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. 276 00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:33,549 I will say of the Lord, 'He is my refuge and my fortress, 277 00:19:33,632 --> 00:19:35,676 my God in whom I trust.' 278 00:19:36,301 --> 00:19:39,596 Surely, He will save you from the fowler's snare 279 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,682 and from the deadly pestilence. 280 00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:46,895 He will cover you with His feathers, and under His wings you will find refuge. 281 00:19:47,521 --> 00:19:51,149 His faithfulnesswill be your shield and rampart. 282 00:19:51,483 --> 00:19:55,904 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day... 283 00:19:55,988 --> 00:19:56,989 You in trouble. 284 00:19:57,072 --> 00:19:58,740 The pestilencethat stalks in the darkness... 285 00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:01,827 "- You gonna get a whippin'.-...or plague that destroys at midday." 286 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:06,832 - Amen.-[all] Amen. 287 00:20:09,126 --> 00:20:10,252 [Poppy] Hi, Sister Claire. 288 00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:13,380 [man] Sister Claire. Have a good one. 289 00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:16,633 - You ready for your party, Daddy?-I ain't ready to get older. 290 00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:19,761 Well, it's either a party thrown by yourfamily or one given by the undertaker. 291 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:22,431 - The first one sounds good to me.-Mmm. 292 00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:24,099 -[cell phone ringing]-Ooh. 293 00:20:24,183 --> 00:20:26,268 I'm sorry, Daddy. Excuse me. 294 00:20:26,894 --> 00:20:27,895 Hello? 295 00:20:28,312 --> 00:20:32,316 Listen, I don't trust a word that you say, Ms. Parnell, 296 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:34,610 but I've gotten you in to see him. 297 00:20:34,693 --> 00:20:37,362 - What?-Warren. In San Quentin. 298 00:20:37,446 --> 00:20:39,281 Thank you, Melanie. You won't regret this. 299 00:20:39,573 --> 00:20:41,158 And this is nonnegotiable. 300 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:44,536 You say nothing about my condition. 301 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:45,829 Understood. 302 00:20:46,205 --> 00:20:48,916 You ready? Lillian got food at the house. 303 00:20:48,999 --> 00:20:53,420 Uh, I got a little business thingthat I need to handle. 304 00:20:53,504 --> 00:20:56,340 Church on Sunday, food with the family. That's how we do it. 305 00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:59,092 I know, Daddy. I'll see you at the party next week. 306 00:20:59,885 --> 00:21:01,637 - Love you, Daddy.-Love you too. 307 00:21:02,763 --> 00:21:03,764 Let's go. 308 00:21:04,348 --> 00:21:06,558 Where she going? Not like she got a job. 309 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:23,283 [Poppy] When most kids his agewere graduating from high school, 310 00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:26,119 joining the army, starting new jobs, 311 00:21:26,203 --> 00:21:29,039 getting ready for college, planning for the future, 312 00:21:29,122 --> 00:21:32,501 going to parties with friends, falling in love, 313 00:21:33,502 --> 00:21:35,212 Warren Cave went to prison. 314 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:38,882 He was 17 years old. 315 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:43,428 Ladies and gentlemen, as we begin processing, please understand 316 00:21:43,512 --> 00:21:45,639 - that you're required to be compliant.-Seventeen. Think about that. 317 00:21:47,182 --> 00:21:48,767 [woman] I'm going to lift your bra. 318 00:21:48,851 --> 00:21:50,519 Please allow your breasts to hang. 319 00:21:51,854 --> 00:21:55,899 I understand what it's liketo be an innocent child, 320 00:21:56,525 --> 00:22:00,070 discarded and thrown into a placewhere there's only darkness. 321 00:22:02,489 --> 00:22:05,784 That's why this standsas my deepest regret. 322 00:22:06,201 --> 00:22:08,036 -[buzzes]-Warren Cave. 323 00:22:10,122 --> 00:22:11,206 Warren Cave? 324 00:22:14,293 --> 00:22:16,378 Member of the press here to see a Level 2. 325 00:22:17,212 --> 00:22:18,672 [buzzes] 326 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:36,273 Thanks for seeing me. 327 00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:39,318 Did your mother tell you why I'm here? 328 00:22:40,068 --> 00:22:43,197 You're the journalist from before. 329 00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:45,991 Okay if I write? 330 00:22:47,951 --> 00:22:49,244 Why are you here? 331 00:22:50,037 --> 00:22:51,872 I think I can help you this time. 332 00:22:52,581 --> 00:22:54,583 Look, not the bullshit. 333 00:22:55,918 --> 00:22:57,085 The truth. 334 00:22:58,587 --> 00:22:59,713 - Warren, listen... Warren? 335 00:23:01,882 --> 00:23:03,133 First name? 336 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:13,143 I live in a house full of menwho breathe to lie... 337 00:23:14,311 --> 00:23:18,524 and I could smell yoursbefore you even started talking. 338 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:21,568 You're full of shit. 339 00:23:21,902 --> 00:23:23,570 Well, I'm here now. 340 00:23:24,363 --> 00:23:25,697 I can make up for it. 341 00:23:25,781 --> 00:23:26,782 Can you? 342 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:31,411 - And now you are here...-[knocks on table] 343 00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:32,579 For my blood. 344 00:23:35,582 --> 00:23:36,750 Vampire. 345 00:23:39,086 --> 00:23:40,796 [chuckling] 346 00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:43,048 You fucking predator. 347 00:23:46,385 --> 00:23:51,139 Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. 348 00:23:53,058 --> 00:23:58,105 Catch a tiger by her toe. 349 00:23:59,731 --> 00:24:03,777 If she hollers, don't let her go. 350 00:24:05,654 --> 00:24:11,159 Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. 351 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:14,746 - Where you going?-Guard. 352 00:24:14,830 --> 00:24:16,248 [knocking on table] 353 00:24:17,457 --> 00:24:18,625 [pounding on table] 354 00:24:18,709 --> 00:24:20,252 Why you running, Poppy? 355 00:24:20,335 --> 00:24:21,795 [door closes] 356 00:24:25,591 --> 00:24:27,759 [gasps, exhales] 357 00:24:30,262 --> 00:24:33,098 Damn it! God damn it. Damn it. 358 00:24:44,902 --> 00:24:47,446 You didn't tell me your sonwas a damn Nazi. 359 00:24:51,617 --> 00:24:54,578 - Does it really matter?-Of course it does. 360 00:24:56,330 --> 00:25:01,126 A woman so noblethat she overlooked the faults of an enemy 361 00:25:01,210 --> 00:25:03,629 to prove his innocence. 362 00:25:04,213 --> 00:25:07,925 I can see the headlines now. Hell, I can see the movie. 363 00:25:08,926 --> 00:25:11,261 - You good, love?-I'll have another Popsicle. 364 00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:13,222 - Sure thing.-Thank you. 365 00:25:14,932 --> 00:25:20,938 Whatever you saw in there, that's not who my son really is. 366 00:25:21,355 --> 00:25:22,814 Don't be that mother. 367 00:25:23,232 --> 00:25:25,984 Your son is bone-deepin that raggedy tribe. 368 00:25:26,068 --> 00:25:30,072 My son was sent to prison as a child. 369 00:25:30,155 --> 00:25:32,574 Your articles helped put him there. 370 00:25:32,658 --> 00:25:36,036 He would never have become that thingif he wasn't locked up. 371 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,162 You don't know that. 372 00:25:37,246 --> 00:25:41,583 I know that there is a monsterinside every one of us, 373 00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:44,837 and his was unleashed in prison. 374 00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,966 Mine when I smoked my first cigarette. 375 00:25:49,550 --> 00:25:50,676 What about you? 376 00:25:51,301 --> 00:25:52,469 What's in there? 377 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,016 Was it your monster that made youdisregard an innocent boy 378 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,143 for all these years 379 00:26:00,227 --> 00:26:02,187 and then come and sit here today 380 00:26:02,271 --> 00:26:06,191 and judge the manthat he was forced to become? 381 00:26:07,526 --> 00:26:10,946 Help me get my son out of prison 382 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:14,366 so I can see him again, on the outside, 383 00:26:14,449 --> 00:26:17,744 and maybe God will forgetthat you're a sinner. 384 00:26:19,246 --> 00:26:21,707 Maybe He'll let your monster sleep. 385 00:26:36,263 --> 00:26:38,724 Hey, guys. Jimmy. Jack. Good to see y'all. 386 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,352 - Yeah, it looks right.-Hey. 387 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,897 - Hey.-Hey. 388 00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:47,024 Why were you texting me all panicked? 389 00:26:47,107 --> 00:26:49,693 I need some help with something. A little advice. 390 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:51,945 Okay. That looks good. 391 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:53,655 You good? Looks good, Herbie. 392 00:26:54,489 --> 00:26:56,617 [men chattering] 393 00:26:57,618 --> 00:26:58,619 This is easy. 394 00:26:58,702 --> 00:27:02,414 Uh, don't use the juice you got fromthat podcast to help some AB motherfucker. 395 00:27:02,497 --> 00:27:03,916 That's it. That's all. It's simple. 396 00:27:03,999 --> 00:27:06,335 Wait, what? Miss Social Justice Warrior? 397 00:27:06,418 --> 00:27:08,128 Swastikas will change some shit. 398 00:27:08,212 --> 00:27:10,255 I built my career on that boy's back, D. 399 00:27:10,339 --> 00:27:12,216 And a country was built on ours. Now what? 400 00:27:12,299 --> 00:27:14,009 You know what I hate about this family? 401 00:27:14,426 --> 00:27:16,470 Typical responses to complicated shit. 402 00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:19,556 How the hell you cracking on the familyand shedding tears over a racist asshole? 403 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,184 I'm shedding... I'm not shedding tears. 404 00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:23,435 Okay? I just... 405 00:27:24,228 --> 00:27:26,605 There is some guiltif I had anything to do with this. 406 00:27:26,688 --> 00:27:27,981 That's what the Lord is for. 407 00:27:29,483 --> 00:27:30,526 Look, you want a cause? 408 00:27:30,609 --> 00:27:32,819 Use your juice to getButchie out of Pelican Bay. 409 00:27:32,903 --> 00:27:35,447 He had a drunk public defender. No eyewitnesses. 410 00:27:35,531 --> 00:27:36,532 Bullshit charges. 411 00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:38,700 His mother died while he was in there. 412 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,328 Or our cousin, who you never visit. 413 00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:43,539 What are y'all fussing about? 414 00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:45,040 Hey, Big Time. 415 00:27:45,457 --> 00:27:47,584 I thought you was too goodto come hang out at the bar. 416 00:27:47,668 --> 00:27:50,295 - I don't have time for your shit, Lillian.-My shit? 417 00:27:50,379 --> 00:27:52,756 I just came out here'cause we getting ready to start the boil. 418 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,049 The crawfish just got here. 419 00:27:55,259 --> 00:27:58,220 Hey, come look at the bikel got your daddy for his birthday. 420 00:28:04,226 --> 00:28:05,227 Bam. 421 00:28:06,311 --> 00:28:07,312 You like it? 422 00:28:08,021 --> 00:28:09,106 Daddy will like it. 423 00:28:13,944 --> 00:28:15,028 Come on, girl. 424 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,532 We got family. We got good music. 425 00:28:18,615 --> 00:28:20,033 We got crawfish. 426 00:28:20,701 --> 00:28:22,494 And we got a step-mama younger than you. 427 00:28:22,578 --> 00:28:23,745 [Poppy laughs] 428 00:28:23,829 --> 00:28:25,205 You need to quit. 429 00:28:26,915 --> 00:28:28,834 I think this is gonna work for him. 430 00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:37,092 Watch out, baby. Watch out. 431 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:43,390 - Hey.-Thank you. 432 00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:44,474 Is this free? 433 00:28:44,558 --> 00:28:45,684 [woman] On the house. 434 00:28:46,518 --> 00:28:47,519 Oh, there's Daddy. 435 00:28:47,603 --> 00:28:49,438 - Hey.-Thank you. God bless you. 436 00:28:49,521 --> 00:28:50,898 Brother Shreve. What's up, baby? 437 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:52,482 Bless you, brother. 438 00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:57,571 Oh, man. 439 00:28:59,615 --> 00:29:02,492 - [chattering, laughing]-Why you laughin' so hard? 440 00:29:05,537 --> 00:29:07,122 -[music playing]-Cheers. 441 00:29:10,042 --> 00:29:12,085 - Good stuff.-It is. 442 00:29:14,129 --> 00:29:15,839 I see you still on that Hangar 1. 443 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:19,092 - How you doing, Markus?-Not as good as you. 444 00:29:19,176 --> 00:29:22,304 Talk to me. What's happening? You tryin' to avoiding me or somethin'? 445 00:29:22,387 --> 00:29:25,015 I've been in here almost an hour. You ain't come talk to me once. 446 00:29:25,098 --> 00:29:27,976 Ain't nobody worried about you. Is your wife here? 447 00:29:29,144 --> 00:29:30,604 You know I'm divorced. 448 00:29:31,021 --> 00:29:32,731 I don't keep tabs on you. 449 00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:34,233 - Oh, yeah?-Mm. 450 00:29:34,316 --> 00:29:35,359 Well, lookee here, 451 00:29:35,442 --> 00:29:40,113 Miss Don't Keep Tabs, your sister tells meyou was looking into some old crime. 452 00:29:40,531 --> 00:29:42,574 Now, you know I'm not with OPD anymore, 453 00:29:42,658 --> 00:29:45,953 but I still do a little investigatingon the side for them. 454 00:29:46,036 --> 00:29:48,205 - A small fee.-Mm. 455 00:29:48,705 --> 00:29:51,208 - My sister talks too much.-Oh, since the cradle. 456 00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:55,671 You know that ain't got nothingto do with nothing. 457 00:29:55,754 --> 00:30:00,425 Hey, listen, and this is serious, if you need anything, anything... 458 00:30:01,009 --> 00:30:02,511 all you gotta do is holler. 459 00:30:05,055 --> 00:30:06,306 - I'm good.-Oh, you good now? 460 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:07,391 I'm good. 461 00:30:07,474 --> 00:30:08,475 - You good?-Mm-hmm. 462 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,060 - Are you sure?-She's good. 463 00:30:11,228 --> 00:30:13,522 Ingram Rhoades. Poppy's husband. 464 00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:16,984 All right, brother. Markus Killebrew. 465 00:30:17,651 --> 00:30:19,027 Poppy's roadkill. 466 00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:22,614 - Always worried about my sister.-Oh, there she is. 467 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:24,533 You should holler at me sometime. 468 00:30:24,867 --> 00:30:26,910 If I did that, then I'd have to worry about you. 469 00:30:27,452 --> 00:30:29,872 - Well, is that bad?-[laughs] She don't stop. 470 00:30:31,957 --> 00:30:33,333 Y'all enjoy your evening. 471 00:30:35,419 --> 00:30:36,587 - Hey there.-Hey. 472 00:30:38,255 --> 00:30:40,465 - Trifling. You are so trifling.-Mm-hmm. 473 00:30:41,258 --> 00:30:43,510 "Hey, y'all enjoy your evening." 474 00:30:43,594 --> 00:30:45,846 You guys sound so great. Thanks for coming. 475 00:30:45,929 --> 00:30:47,181 Happy birthday, man. 476 00:30:47,598 --> 00:30:48,599 - Hey!-Hey. 477 00:30:49,474 --> 00:30:51,518 When you gonna have me and Lillianup to that fancy house? 478 00:30:51,602 --> 00:30:53,520 Oh, you welcome anytime, Daddy. 479 00:30:54,563 --> 00:30:56,773 Hey! Watch what the hell you doing! 480 00:30:56,857 --> 00:30:58,192 - Sorry, man.-It's okay, Daddy. 481 00:30:58,275 --> 00:30:59,651 I'm all right. Just calm down. 482 00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:02,654 "Calm down"? Who are you to tell me what to do? 483 00:31:02,738 --> 00:31:03,822 Daddy? 484 00:31:03,906 --> 00:31:05,282 Everything okay? 485 00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:08,368 This silly woman sitting heretrying to tell me what to do. 486 00:31:08,911 --> 00:31:11,830 Okay, Boo, I got this. It's cool. 487 00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:14,124 You go on and enjoy the rest of the party. 488 00:31:16,585 --> 00:31:17,711 Wait, where you going? 489 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:20,881 To get something to eat. 490 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:24,635 Poppy? 491 00:31:25,219 --> 00:31:26,220 Yeah, Daddy. 492 00:31:26,303 --> 00:31:29,431 I always knew you'd find a wayto mess things all up. 493 00:31:29,515 --> 00:31:32,309 Got more of your mama's blood in youthan mine, and all of them crazy. 494 00:31:32,392 --> 00:31:34,061 [Lillian]Okay, now wait a minute, old man. 495 00:31:34,144 --> 00:31:36,480 This party here is for you. 496 00:31:36,897 --> 00:31:39,066 Everybody that's here, baby, is for you. 497 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:41,902 - Okay?-Yeah, sweetheart. Okay. 498 00:31:42,444 --> 00:31:44,446 [Shreve] Hey, Popsicle! 499 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:47,199 Come here. Give me some sugar. [laughs] 500 00:31:47,741 --> 00:31:49,826 Mm. Go on and enjoy yourself. 501 00:31:51,245 --> 00:31:53,455 - Sit with me, sweetheart.-Absolutely. 502 00:31:53,539 --> 00:31:54,957 [chattering] 503 00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:58,210 [Poppy] Something's wrong with Daddy. 504 00:31:59,711 --> 00:32:03,799 For a moment, he didn't even recognize me. He said the most hateful things. 505 00:32:04,258 --> 00:32:06,176 Your father's always been edgy. 506 00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:08,428 No. It wasn't that. 507 00:32:09,054 --> 00:32:10,347 It was different. 508 00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:13,684 Lillian wasn't surprised. 509 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:16,562 Let's wait for everybody to sober up. 510 00:32:16,645 --> 00:32:18,689 Find out what they all know. 511 00:32:35,998 --> 00:32:37,499 [door creaks] 512 00:32:53,724 --> 00:32:54,725 [sighs] 513 00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:55,976 Hey, Aunt Susan. 514 00:32:56,393 --> 00:32:57,811 Jesus, Lanie. 515 00:32:57,895 --> 00:33:00,314 Sorry. I used my key. 516 00:33:00,397 --> 00:33:01,773 No, you don't need to be sorry. 517 00:33:01,857 --> 00:33:04,985 Just text meso I know that you're gonna be here. 518 00:33:06,195 --> 00:33:07,196 What's going on? 519 00:33:08,530 --> 00:33:09,531 Um... 520 00:33:10,282 --> 00:33:14,995 You know how every few yearsa vulture comes out of the woodwork 521 00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:17,039 and starts asking about my dad? 522 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:21,168 -[sighs] What now?-This woman. 523 00:33:21,793 --> 00:33:26,507 She came to my house, and she accosted mein front of Alex and Ella. 524 00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:29,051 - Who?-Poppy Parnell. 525 00:33:29,384 --> 00:33:31,136 You remember? She's that reporter. 526 00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:34,264 She wrote a bunch of stories about Warrenfor the Chronicle? 527 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:36,517 She's doing a podcast. 528 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,060 - What'd you say?-Nothing. 529 00:33:38,143 --> 00:33:40,854 Because none of us should besaying anything to her. 530 00:33:43,232 --> 00:33:44,858 But I do need to talk to Josie. 531 00:33:47,528 --> 00:33:49,530 I-I bought some ice cream. 532 00:33:50,572 --> 00:33:52,407 I remember when that would fix everything. 533 00:33:52,491 --> 00:33:54,409 - It's mint chip. Want some?-Aunt Susan. 534 00:33:54,493 --> 00:33:56,912 I really need to warn Josie. 535 00:33:57,538 --> 00:33:59,414 Your sister wants to be left alone. 536 00:33:59,498 --> 00:34:01,750 I know that. That's why I need to talk to her. 537 00:34:02,167 --> 00:34:05,045 Because what if this woman goes after her? 538 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,050 If it's an emergency, I can get a message to her. 539 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:14,137 Everything's gonna be okay. I promise. 540 00:34:14,763 --> 00:34:17,431 Don't let this woman upendall the hard work that you've done. 541 00:34:18,183 --> 00:34:19,601 You've come too far. 542 00:34:20,936 --> 00:34:21,937 Okay? 543 00:34:23,397 --> 00:34:24,898 - Promise?-Promise. 544 00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:31,405 [men yelling] 545 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:49,755 [Melanie] Was it your monsterthat made you disregard an innocent boy 546 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,632 for all these years? 547 00:34:52,342 --> 00:34:53,594 [groaning] 548 00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:58,891 - What?-Leave it off, babe. 549 00:35:00,309 --> 00:35:02,394 - What's going on?-Nothing. Just... 550 00:35:03,478 --> 00:35:04,646 No. Talk to me. 551 00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:07,900 I didn't do enough. 552 00:35:08,984 --> 00:35:10,235 With your father? 553 00:35:11,195 --> 00:35:12,196 No. 554 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,615 For Warren Cave. 555 00:35:15,699 --> 00:35:19,161 Baby, you... Baby, you can'tbeat yourself up about that. Okay? 556 00:35:19,244 --> 00:35:21,747 You wrote those stories based onwhat you knew at the time, 557 00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:23,665 and you didn't know about the tape. 558 00:35:26,877 --> 00:35:27,961 But I did. 559 00:35:30,631 --> 00:35:33,050 When I first looked intoWarren's case, I... 560 00:35:33,884 --> 00:35:37,846 I heard rumors about Lanie being coached. 561 00:35:38,931 --> 00:35:41,850 That there was a tape. I could've looked into it. 562 00:35:44,978 --> 00:35:46,188 When did you hear? 563 00:35:47,397 --> 00:35:49,316 When I was writing the second article. 564 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,860 You never told me that. 565 00:35:51,944 --> 00:35:55,531 Well, the serieswas already getting attention. 566 00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:59,785 It felt meaningful. Impactful. 567 00:36:00,536 --> 00:36:02,371 It was opening doors for me. 568 00:36:03,121 --> 00:36:07,459 But it was all based on the ideathat Warren was guilty. 569 00:36:08,836 --> 00:36:12,089 The tape didn't matter at that pointif it was true. 570 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,967 - Did you bury evidence?-No. Of course not. 571 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:16,051 - No.-Okay. All right. 572 00:36:16,134 --> 00:36:17,427 Then help me understand here. 573 00:36:17,511 --> 00:36:21,098 Because there are a million rumorsabout any given case. 574 00:36:21,932 --> 00:36:23,600 Did you trust the source? 575 00:36:23,684 --> 00:36:26,061 I never looked into it, Ingram. 576 00:36:26,687 --> 00:36:28,605 I told myself it didn't matter. 577 00:36:29,147 --> 00:36:31,859 But it was my job to look at everything. 578 00:36:31,942 --> 00:36:33,277 I chose not to. 579 00:36:35,445 --> 00:36:37,489 I can't ignore it a second time. 580 00:36:39,575 --> 00:36:40,576 Yes, you can. 581 00:36:40,659 --> 00:36:42,953 Ingram. I can't. 582 00:36:52,671 --> 00:36:55,340 You think I believe that pathetic shiton your arms? 583 00:36:57,009 --> 00:37:00,804 You think I believe that squirrellylittle boy from Menlo Park, 584 00:37:00,888 --> 00:37:05,517 the one without a single friend, arrived believing all that? 585 00:37:08,353 --> 00:37:11,940 You joined up so you wouldn'thave to become someone's bitch. 586 00:37:13,317 --> 00:37:16,653 I bet they were trading youlike playing cards. 587 00:37:16,737 --> 00:37:18,739 Popping your ass like bubble gum. 588 00:37:20,532 --> 00:37:26,163 If you're tired of that, of this, we can get to work. 589 00:37:27,164 --> 00:37:28,248 [groans] 590 00:37:35,172 --> 00:37:36,590 Your mother's dying. 591 00:37:43,722 --> 00:37:44,723 Oh, yeah? 592 00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:48,769 What's wrong with her? 593 00:37:48,852 --> 00:37:50,938 - Tell me about the Buhrmans.-Fuck you! 594 00:37:51,021 --> 00:37:52,481 Get mad if you want. 595 00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:57,611 -[heavy sigh]-Get mad if you want to. 596 00:37:57,694 --> 00:38:00,405 But she won't tell you, and she might not come back. 597 00:38:01,782 --> 00:38:04,117 And then she'll diewithout you ever seeing her again. 598 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:09,331 Why were your prints foundall over that house? 599 00:38:11,041 --> 00:38:13,502 I used to go "hunting" at the Buhrman house. 600 00:38:24,471 --> 00:38:25,472 "Hunting"? 601 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:28,725 Just stupid kid shit. 602 00:38:30,269 --> 00:38:36,191 The mom, Erin Buhrman, used to playlike she was better than everyone else. 603 00:38:36,275 --> 00:38:37,526 But I knew. 604 00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:42,739 Everyone knew that she was a pillhead. 605 00:38:43,282 --> 00:38:45,868 I went there searching for drugs. 606 00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:48,954 In and out. 607 00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:50,414 That's it. 608 00:38:54,293 --> 00:38:57,045 I went straight to the medicine cabinet. 609 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:27,492 My prints were foundbecause I went hunting. 610 00:39:30,245 --> 00:39:32,122 [clattering] 611 00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:38,086 Josie, is that you? 612 00:39:39,171 --> 00:39:40,756 Go back to bed, Lanie. 613 00:39:49,598 --> 00:39:53,018 I got what I was looking for, and I got out of there. 614 00:39:57,940 --> 00:40:01,902 [heavy sigh] 615 00:40:05,697 --> 00:40:09,243 So, you were there looking for drugs? Nothing else? 616 00:40:09,326 --> 00:40:11,578 I told you I was hunting. 617 00:40:13,997 --> 00:40:16,792 Did you go "hunting" the night of the murder? 618 00:40:21,547 --> 00:40:23,882 [snickers] No. 619 00:40:27,845 --> 00:40:31,473 Remember when you told methat men in here breathe to lie? 620 00:40:34,726 --> 00:40:37,020 I was a reporter for over 20 years. 621 00:40:37,104 --> 00:40:38,981 So I know a lie when I hear one too. 622 00:40:40,065 --> 00:40:41,692 You're not telling me the truth. 623 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,945 Your mother has lung cancer. 624 00:40:45,028 --> 00:40:47,865 She was given six months to livefour months ago. 625 00:40:50,701 --> 00:40:52,327 [trembling] 626 00:40:52,744 --> 00:40:54,538 [slams fist] 627 00:41:01,795 --> 00:41:04,214 Is there anything elseyou want to tell me? 628 00:41:09,094 --> 00:41:11,096 So will you help me get out of here? 629 00:41:17,811 --> 00:41:19,813 If you promise to tell me the truth. 630 00:41:23,025 --> 00:41:24,026 Deal. 631 00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:31,408 I just want to get something straightbefore we start down this road. 632 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,165 If you ever even breathe anything racistin my direction, 633 00:41:38,248 --> 00:41:41,502 I will make sure you die in herewithout ever seeing your mother again. 634 00:41:42,211 --> 00:41:43,420 Understand? 635 00:41:50,344 --> 00:41:51,929 I need to hear you say it. 636 00:41:53,764 --> 00:41:55,057 I understand. 637 00:41:56,558 --> 00:41:57,559 Okay. 638 00:42:01,897 --> 00:42:03,398 My name is Warren Cave. 639 00:42:03,482 --> 00:42:08,487 I live at San Quentin prisonwhere I was sent in the summer of 2000 640 00:42:08,570 --> 00:42:11,907 for the murder of my neighbor, Chuck Buhrman. 641 00:42:13,867 --> 00:42:16,870 Every week I come to you, and I bring you a story. 642 00:42:17,913 --> 00:42:19,206 I do interviews. 643 00:42:19,289 --> 00:42:21,542 None of them ever about me. 644 00:42:22,584 --> 00:42:24,002 This time it'll be different. 645 00:42:26,046 --> 00:42:29,091 - [man] 9-1-1, what's your emergency?-[woman] I, I... 646 00:42:29,174 --> 00:42:31,802 - Hello?-I, I don't know. I think... 647 00:42:31,885 --> 00:42:33,303 Ma'am, what's your emergency? 648 00:42:33,387 --> 00:42:35,472 Uh, he's dead, he's dead. 649 00:42:35,556 --> 00:42:38,225 [child sobbing] Dad, no! Please. No. 650 00:42:40,018 --> 00:42:41,436 [Poppy] Nineteen years ago, 651 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,189 prominent Bay Area author, Chuck Buhrman, was murdered. 652 00:42:44,273 --> 00:42:46,608 [male reporter] ...killed in his own homewhile his wife and daughters slept... 653 00:42:46,692 --> 00:42:49,987 [Poppy] The focus quickly turnedto the Buhrmans' 16-year-old neighbor, 654 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:51,405 Warren Cave. 655 00:42:51,488 --> 00:42:52,489 [man] The night of the murder, 656 00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:55,450 did you see the personbefore they jumped the fence? 657 00:42:55,534 --> 00:42:56,743 [Lanie] I think so. 658 00:42:57,286 --> 00:42:58,745 [Warren] I don't know why Lanie lied. 659 00:43:02,457 --> 00:43:03,792 And that's where I come in. 660 00:43:03,876 --> 00:43:09,339 [Warren] Poppy Parnell portrayed meas a privileged, entitled psychopath. 661 00:43:09,423 --> 00:43:13,677 [Poppy] I helped seal Warren's fatewith a series of articles called, 662 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,512 "Profile of a Monster." 663 00:43:15,596 --> 00:43:17,222 [woman]We, the jury, being duly impaneled... 664 00:43:17,306 --> 00:43:20,767 [Poppy] Warren was sentencedto life in prison without parole. 665 00:43:21,351 --> 00:43:24,938 Is there an innocent man in prison? 666 00:43:26,398 --> 00:43:30,110 And did I... lead that charge? 48086

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