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Hello!
Good evening, everyone.
You are so welcome to the show. I tell you, I am blown away by tonight's line
-up. I mean, I couldn't be more blown away if I was standing next to Celia
Imrie on Celebrity Traitors.
Something's been banished.
And they should salute you, Celia. But, hey, look who's here singing for us
later. It's Florence and the Machine!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Yeah!
She'll be performing her new single, Everybody Scream.
And there's lots to scream about on my sofa tonight.
First up, this bap-denominated actor starred in Creed and kicked ass as
Marvel's Valkyrie. Now brings us a dazzling reimagining of Ibsen's Hedda
Gabler. It is Tessa Thompson, everybody!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
She became a global star in the X-Men and Hunger Games film series and by the
age of 25 had four Oscar nominations to her name including Silver Linings
Playbook which won her the Best Actress award. Now she brings us a heart
-wrenching performance in Die My Love.
It is a warm welcome back to Jennifer Lawrence!
Chet Parmy in the bear he's won two Emmys at three Golden Globes and
counting now He's playing one of music's greatest icons in Springsteen deliver me
from nowhere.
It's Jeremy Allen White
And
if you're
wondering what the real Bruce Springsteen thinks of Jeremy's
performance Let's ask him. He's one of the greatest American singer-songwriters
and a true music legend.
It's our good friend, Bruce Springsteen!
I'm
still not used
to it.
Welcome back, everyone. First time to Jeremy. Hello, nice to see you. Hi, nice
to see you. And actually, welcome to the room, Tessa, because you haven't been in
this studio before. No, we were on Zoom.
On the dreaded Zoom. Yeah. This is better, right?
Much. Yeah, yeah, free drink.
And Bruce, here's the thing, you walked on there to Born To Run.
This year, I think, is that 50 years old?
I was 10 when I recorded it, so yeah. Yeah, that's incredible, isn't it? Yeah.
I was born to walk.
And Jeremy Allen White, I've just got to say, we all love you in The Bear. You
know that.
And the thing is, we have had lots of actors on the show talking about playing
real people. I don't think they've ever been all sat next to the real person.
Yeah, yeah, this is kind of unprecedented.
So how involved was Bruce during the filming?
I mean, Bruce was there. We spent a little bit of time before we got started
shooting. We met here, actually, in London for the first time, at Wembley. I
met him before a show, and we got together around New Jersey right before
filming, and then Bruce was around, you know, on set with us.
And I always feel a little guilty about that, you know? I go, like, okay, not
only does this fella have to play me...
He has to play me while my stupid ass is sitting in the chair watching himself.
Oh, that's awful.
Have you apologised?
But he was incredibly tolerant of me and I'm always thankful. He was so generous
of me being there and I had a great time.
And actually, Tessa Elmer, you have a really...
strong connection to bruce yes deeply my dad went on tour with bruce for a while
during the secret sessions for a year you and your papa played together and uh
well there you are yeah we went all around the world together uh mark
anthony and he's a fabulous musician and a great guy and i came to one of your
shows which was Oh, really?
Yeah, because, you know, growing up with a musician for a father, I would always
go to shows with him, and I don't even know the early ones I went to when I was
tiny, but I would have, like, you know, cotton in my ears, and my dad would put
me on his shoulders.
And then we went to your show together, and I kid you not, the guy next to me
said, do you want to get on my shoulders so you can see?
Because I couldn't see anything. Your fans are so incredible.
And then I met you backstage. You must have been very little.
I almost asked for your shirt, but I decided not to.
And, Jennifer, there's a slight link between you and Bruce, because
was it when you were filming Mother?
Yes. Tell us.
When I was filming Mother, and I would have to do really intense scenes, I
listened to a song of yours that would kind of bring me out of the funk.
Really? Yeah. Can you guess which song it was, Bruce?
It's not Born To Run.
That would bring you out of the funk. Yeah, made me really happy.
It's not in a breath.
One could even say jolly.
Waiting on a sunny day.
No. No.
Shall I put you out of your misery?
Yes. It was this.
Look how happy Jennifer is. I try to be sad. That always works. That always
works.
Listen, we start tonight with our big two-hander. Jeremy Allen White is Bruce
Springsteen in Springsteen Delivery Me From Nowhere. It's in cinemas from the
24th of October.
And here's some of the trailer to get us in the mood.
This is a highly unorthodox career move.
That's the point.
He's channeling something deeply personal.
But in this office, my office, we believe in Bruce Springsteen.
Songwriting's a funny thing.
It's about searching for something.
Something that's gonna give your life a little bit of meaning.
This is where you're meant to go.
Don't need to be perfect.
I just want it to feel right. Wow.
And listen,
we should tell people that this isn't a biopic from boy to man. It focuses on
this really specific moment in your life. Which of you wants to tell us
about that?
It's me? You? Yeah, it's your... Yeah.
LAUGHTER It only focuses on about a year and a half or two years in my life
when I was making this record, Nebraska, and going through a variety of different
personal struggles at the time.
And so it's nice. It's not a regular music... It's not really a musical
biopic almost at all. It's really a character-driven drama.
with music, you know? And I'm thinking these struggles that are portrayed in
the film, we didn't really know about them. Like, they weren't widely known.
Well, I wasn't disseminating that I was losing my mind at the time. Yeah.
Yeah.
So I tried to keep... It's a big thing to know, I mean, yeah.
You know, so, no, it went pretty unknown, you know? And, Jeremy, you
know, you sing these songs.
I do. But you're a non...
Singer so how well I suppose how daunting but also how the hell do you
prepare? from a standing start to Do that. Yeah, it was tough.
I mean I've been a longtime admirer of of Bruce's but it took me some time to
sort of accept because I remember telling Scott or director, you know You
sure you don't want to cast someone who already knows how to sing and play the
guitar that might be easier for you guys
But I got together with, like, really talented people.
I mean, this guy Eric Vitro, who... Yes.
Yes, he works with a lot of singers.
He works with Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana Grande and Rosalia and... But
also actors. And he's helped a lot of actors, yeah, like Austin Butler and
Timothee Chalamet get ready for sort of these films. And so I worked with him
about six times a week for six months to sound...
Something like Bruce. And was that kind of rasp in your voice already?
I think you get that rasp, or I got that rasp, from sort of singing his songs
over and over and over and over again.
It kind of came naturally.
I'd have to get warmed up, sing very hard, and then I could kind of find that
voice, yeah. But he does a very telling thing.
He sings the song...
Jeremy's performance is not imitative in any way.
You know, when he's singing the songs, he's leaning into the music's internal
life. And he captures the most important thing about performing a piece of
music. And not only does he do that in the songs, but he also does it in his
performance. And it just feels very, very real and very, very authentic, you
know. It really is a distorted performance and we're just going to
watch a bit of your performance performance you on stage as bruce. This
is you Uh performing born to run. This is jeremy. Here we go Together windy we
live with the sadness. I love you with all the madness in my soul Whoa
someday girl, I don't know where we're gonna get to that place.
We really wanna go We're walking the sun
I'm not amazing.
It's like you're channeling him. It's amazing.
What strikes me is you must have had so much going on in your head doing that,
because there's a real audience, you're thinking the movements, the voice,
everything. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was daunting I remember those days being
particularly sort of sort of scary, you know But but what's nice about those
environments is you know, everything else is very real. I was on stage with
real musicians The audience was really excited to see the actual Bruce
Springsteen who was there that day And you know, everything was real Except for
me, I was really the only pretender, but once everything gets going, yeah, it's
really easy to, I guess, get lost.
But the build-up, yeah, mind is racing, trouble, trouble, yes, yeah.
And was it... Were watching things like that being filmed odder than watching
the more intimate scenes?
I'm going to be stealing some of those moves on my next tour, actually.
That's how well he did.
Extraordinary. And did you always intend to be there as much as that?
First part of the film, when they first started, we were touring in Canada, so I
wasn't there, but Scott, the director, said, gee, you know, I'd like you to
come, you know, so I went, but...
I always had a little bit of, like, I don't know, you know, but he was very
kind about it, so I appreciate it. I think in the beginning, in that first
week, when you're on any job, whatever it is, you know, you're kind of finding
your footing and you're a little bit nervous, and I think in that first week,
I didn't know what to expect, and, you know, you're... kind of trying to, like,
strum up some delusion and imagination.
And, you know, you see the man you're playing in the corner, and it gets
difficult to kind of fall into that delusion. But then he showed up so
frequently, it did. It became a...
It became normal.
And then, you know, I think, like, in his presence, there was a lot of
permission for me and for Scott, our director, and, you know, he was a great
support. Did Bruce give you notes and things?
No, I think he knows that would have broken me.
That would have been unsafe.
Because you've both played real people. Did you get feedback from the real
people?
Um, no.
I played Joy Mangano.
In the Miracle Mall. Joy, the inventor of the Miracle Mall.
But, no, I mean, I had, like, drinks with her occasionally, but I don't... I
think if she had come on set, I would cry.
Yeah. I played Diane Nash, and she didn't give me any tips or anything, but
she had to approve my casting.
So that felt really sweet that she said, yeah, she can be me. Oh, I thought you
were going to say bitchy.
I was like, yeah, say it.
She was like, she'll do.
Actually, that's a good point. The casting.
Did you have to approve, Jeremy?
No, no. But all I said, when Scott came down to my house the first day we spoke,
I'd seen Jeremy on The Bear.
I loved his performance.
I saw how the camera read his interior life and how it read...
what a psychological actor he was, and he was always... He was the first guy I
mentioned, and he was... There was no number two. He was my first choice. I
still can't believe... That's very lucky. It's unreal.
I feel very fortunate that he took the job.
And, Jeremy, not a singer. He's not a singer. Well, he is now.
But a proper dancer.
Yes, I've been told. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. No, but, child, you studied and...
It's true.
Yeah, I started around eight years old. I had a lot of energy as a kid and my
parents kind of threw me into anything and everything.
A lot of sports, that wasn't enough.
We did ballet, tap and jazz for a very, very long time until I was like 12 or
13, I guess, something like that. And you still do the tap, right?
Uh, no.
I thought in between takes you would do tap.
Yes, there is a sort of nervous tick I've found that people on set have told
me I have which is kind of like during the setup in between Shots and stuff.
I'll kind of do a shuffle ball change in place as almost like a meditative sort
of thing I didn't realize I did it until I was told by my cast mates Jennifer
looks like she's never going to work with Jeremy Allen, right?
I just didn't expect it.
I didn't know that that was really you singing, so I'm like, wow.
And then, like, kickball change, and I'm just like, wow. Like, there's just all
sorts of different directions.
But Jennifer, when you were young, I love your parents for those parents.
They were so encouraging. I really, I hate the information that you get.
Your mother, your mother particularly... My mom thought I could do anything. She
was just like, you are so pretty. You can sing.
And so I was like, okay.
And so I sang in front of my school and I can't, I cannot sing.
There's like a video of it. It's really, really bad.
And weirdly, it's almost... It's also a Christmas song. It's also a Christmas
song. Yeah.
You're obsessed with Christmas.
I love Christmas.
So were you finding out in real time that you couldn't sing?
Yeah.
I had an inkling at rehearsals because I remember just like not knowing like what
key and I was just like
lady kind of go like People started laughing and I and that
was when I was kind of like I wonder if I'm not as good as my mom Well
Tessa you are a musician like your dad you sing
and in Creed as Bianca We saw you sing but apparently you were hanging out with
musicians and that did not end well
Well, no, I mean, so I grew up around musicians a lot, and so I've sort of
come from a musical family, but I'm not a trained musician at all. But when we
were making Music Creed, I was like, I really want to immerse myself in the
musician's life, and Ludwig Goresen and I locked ourselves in a studio for two
weeks to make this original music, which was so fun, and mostly we just, like,
ate noodles and...
you know tried to make up these songs but also we invite these amazing
musicians in and some of them like to like smoke a little pot so one day i was
like well i should i'm gonna do that because now i'm a musician that was your
first and only time no but it was like
the stoniest I've ever been in my entire life.
Just so stoned. Like I remember just being there on the couch and them being
like, okay, let's lay down some vocals and being like, I don't know how to
move.
Did you think everybody was mad at you? Yeah, everyone was mad. I was mad at
myself. I had to go outside to, like, be like, like, okay, get back in there. You
can do it. And then I did, and we got through, and it was fine. But I was
like, okay, I'm never going to smoke pot again when I have to perform.
Lesson learned.
Yes. Well done.
I used to do a thing where I'd go out in the middle of a concert, somebody would
hand me a full beer, and I'd chug the beer.
It was always okay.
Then I went to Germany.
Beer is very strong in Germany.
And somebody handed me a huge, a huge cup of beer, and I go, you know, okay,
I'm gonna get it down. Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug,
chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. I get the whole thing down, and about 30 seconds
later, I realize.
I'm stoned out of my fucking... Was it like ecstasy? I got on stage
and I said, I sound so fucking good right now.
I can't believe... These people are so lucky.
And, very greatly, Bruce, I just wonder...
Having been through this process of making the film with Jeremy, like, when
you go to perform now, do you think it's going to make you kind of self
-conscious? Will you go, oh, I'm doing that thing with my shoulders now?
Well, the funny thing was, he did pick up a lot of my onstage mannerisms, so it
does make me think, oh, yeah, I do do that, you know? So I think I'll be all
right. I think you'll be all right. Yeah, we'll get back into the swing of
it. Just a reminder, you can see Jeremy Allen White as Bruce in Springsteen,
Delivery From Nowhere, and that's from next Friday.
OK.
Meanwhile,
Jennifer Lawrence brings us a powerful drama. It's called Die, My Love.
It's in cinemas from the 7th of November.
And this is really...
Your baby, I mean your production company made it but the project was
brought to you by a very posh Person. Well, I don't know if you've ever heard
of this filmmaker Martin Scorsese He read
the book in his book club That's adorable, isn't it? Who else is in this
book club? I don't know. Oh, man, we've got to figure that out. I know, and,
like, I could ask. Yeah, you should ask. I just don't want to bother him.
But, yeah, and he was like, I think that you should play this character. And then
when I read the book, it was like, I had a hard time kind of imagining it as a
movie because it's all, like, inside her head.
But I wasn't, like, going to go back to Marty and be like, I don't know, I think
it's a bad idea.
And it's you and Robert Pattinson, and you play a young couple.
Yeah. But then a baby enters your life.
Yes. We have a big move, a baby enters our life, we start going
through some marital, you know, troubles, and I'm getting a little
cuckoo in my face.
That's it.
Yeah.
You and Robert are so good in this film. Before we talk about it tomorrow, let's
look at a clip.
This is you and Robert Pattinson, well, essentially, not getting on.
This place is a fucking hole. You moved us into it. I am working.
And when I come home, I'm the one cleaning everything up. Oh, you have
three days a week when we shower you in metals.
Shut up.
You have an ashtray on the carpet.
You don't think the baby's eating that shit? Shut up.
Move us into the house where your uncle shot himself up the fucking ass. Oh, my
God. Up the ass.
Up the fucking ass.
I knew it. I knew it.
Why are your shorts undone?
Why do you not have your short tongue? Shut up! You fucking sanctimonious dick.
You're probably pissed off before yourself. Blame it on the fucking dog.
It was your mangy dog. And sanctimonious means that you think you're morally
superior to other people, damn it. Where's your book going, by the way?
Fantastic, thank you.
Great American novel. The main character is about to batter her husband to death
with a hammer. Sounds like shit.
Well, you can't read, so... Maybe. You spend the littlest time. In my pants.
No more writing.
Maybe. i'd write something maybe my hands are down my pants because you put
your dick everywhere except there i
love
that scene all that rage trying not to wake a baby yeah
there were so many moments like that because you like you read the script and
it's like oh fighting you know and they have a baby and everything but rob and i
are both parents i mean he had a new baby like a newborn baby and so we were
like there was a scene where we were in the car we were supposed to be screaming
at each other and the baby was supposed to be in the car and then we were like
we can't we will traumatize this child and so there were lots of I don't
know. The babies ended up having a great time, Victoria and Kennedy, and they
were very well taken care of.
And I just wondered, you know, you and Robert Pattinson, in an odd way, you
share this kind of almost unique experience where you both found enormous
early fame in big franchise movies, Him and Twilight, Younger Games, and I
wondered, did that bond you in any way, or was it kind of a, oh, that's a thing
that happened back then?
Not real I think cuz like what else I mean if you think I didn't ask him about
Donald Trump tweeting about the breakup with Kristen obviously It
was like three days after the photos came out with with her with you know,
whatever young people make mistakes Different
kind of I made it, you know, yeah. Yeah. I mean he
wasn't president Yeah. Right. Yeah, we could sleep at night.
But... Anyway, I brought that up. But, um... No, that wasn't... I think we
bonded mostly... This is so boring, but, like, over our kids.
Because, like, when you have babies, you just want to show people, like, videos
and pictures and, you know... But I know you had him over.
OK. Did you have him over for dinner?
So... So, I had my girlfriends over.
We were in our pyjamas.
We were watching Little Women. It was December.
Um, so we were watching both versions. Right around Christmas time. Yes.
Um, and then, and he was like, hey, I just wrapped something, like, a block
away from you. And I was like, oh, my God, because Rob is one of the girls.
Like, he wants to gossip. He wants to, like, he is just one of the gals.
And so I was like, come over.
But he's also, like, my daughter.
Like, he's very, he's a great father.
He's a professional. He shows up on time. But, like, I wouldn't, like, trust
that, like...
He like put a coat on or like, you know, like he's not gonna like eat on time or
something He brings out a very like maternal So he comes in and I give him a
hug and he's like you have any food?
So hungry and I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, come in come in and then he goes
to the bathroom and I do have food But it's in the trash and so while he was in
the bathroom, I was just like pulling food out of my garbage My girlfriends
were like and I'm like
So he eats it and we're all just kind of like Trash and then
when he was finished he was like I'm still hungry as a mole and I'm like well
there is but it's it's in the garbage He
sounds like the ideal house
And this film, this is made by your production company. Yes. And this is you
kind of taking control and being, you know, choosing your projects carefully.
Because was there a time where you kind of wanted to step away, you wanted to
kind of take the heat off being Jennifer Lawrence? Yeah, I made Covid happen.
OK.
That'll do it. Yeah, I was just like, I want to take a break, and it was like,
the world is shutting down!
Yeah, I took a little time. I mean, I was, like, working all my 20s, you know,
so then I was like, what's out here? Yeah. What's going on?
And did you worry about, you know, maybe you wouldn't be able to get back into
it, or...? I think I was, like, I think I was at peace with that possibility of
happening. I was like, you know, this is a lot.
I think I would have been fine.
Well, I mean, no. I mean, I would be really upset, but I don't know.
No, because, Jeremy, obviously, because of the bear, you're famous everywhere,
but in Chicago, you're, like, apparently unbelievably famous in Chicago.
Extra famous in Chicago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, um, yes.
And is it fun?
Is it fun?
Um... Yeah, I mean, I can get, like, a dinner reservation, and that kind of
stuff is really nice, and... But I do have...
I mean, after the first season was as successful as it was, they gave me a
security guard, this wonderful man, Moody.
And Moody follows me around on set everywhere.
And there was one particular evening, we were shooting on location in Chicago,
and we were very near a...
School of college and there was kind of like a group of mostly very small young
women that were like excited to see everybody there And
they were kind of barricaded very very far away from
where we were shooting and I kind of get out of the van and I'm approaching and
they all kind of shout out again There may be 20 yards away.
They start shouting and Moody this very large man
lifts me in the air by my hips, parries me up the stairs, shoves me in the door
as if these young women were gonna, you know, really, really get me.
And I remember telling him, please do not ever, ever grab me by the hips
again.
So, so insane.
And he felt very bad. I love you, Moody. If you're seeing this, it's all OK.
But it was a wild, wild thing that he did. Yeah.
Not good.
except everyone is 70 and you don't have to worry about it.
And now, Tessa, you're another actor who... You've got a production company
now. You're kind of taking control of your career. What's your production
company called? It's called Viva Mod.
Ooh, that's beautiful. It's a good name. Like this spirit of a character called
Maude from a movie that I love called Harold and Maude. Oh, yeah.
Well, listen, the first project from Tessa's production company to hit the
screens is Hedda. It's available to watch globally on Prime Video starting
on the 29th of October.
So, obviously, the source material for this is Hedda Gabler. Yeah. But this is
a... How would you describe it? It's more than an adaptation, isn't it?
It's sort of a reimagining. I mean, we tried to capture the spirit of the play,
but it's set in 1950s in the UK in an English country house. It sort of feels
like part murder mystery in a way, and Nia DaCosta, who's the brilliant
director, writer, has sort of updated the text in some interesting ways. One
of the iconic characters from the piece has been gender swapped, so it feels,
yeah, different than the original, but hopefully for people that like it, it
satisfies that, too. All right, well, here's a clip just to give us a taste of
the feel of the whole thing.
You sing. What?
On edge.
Hedda, darling, what are you up to?
You'll see.
Well, you're not leaving, are you? Best to resist temptation.
Oh, come on, Eileen.
You're stronger than that.
What has got into you?
Sometimes I can't help myself.
Jesus, these people.
Why are you like this?
What are you so afraid of?
I hope you're happy.
Don't I look happy?
What did you say?
I said her cheekbones are fucked up.
In a beautiful way.
Now, here's the thing, everyone's very familiar with the story of Hedda
Gobbler, but just a little refresher for the people, what is Hedda Gobbler about?
The original piece is about a woman named Hedda, Gabler, or Gobbler,
depending on how you want to say it. And she is in a marriage that she isn't too
happy with, and someone from her past comes along and kind of unravels her
night. In our rendition, there's... So in the original piece, there's a party
that happens offstage.
In our rendition, we brought everything to the party. So the film is a big
party, and also it is significantly...
gayer and kinkier than Ibsen's original.
Yeah, stupid Henrik.
Here's the thing, though. English accent, very good. Thanks very much.
Such a specific English accent.
Yeah. How did you find it, if you know what I mean?
I like the idea of it being sort of like... I really like, like, very close
to the Queen's English.
I just think it's so fantastic.
And I like people that are, like, so posh that they just don't even move
their mouths at all, you know? Like, I really love that.
We couldn't go quite there, but it's sort of inspired by a lot of voices
during that time.
And, of course, we have heard your English accent before... Yeah. ..as
Valkyrie in Thor.
But that was filmed in New Zealand, so apparently the New Zealand accents were
more challenging than your English accent.
Oh, yeah, hugely, because they... I mean, first of all, our accents and that
are sort of, like, in the comics, it's just italics, so we do, like, an
inspired by.
But in New Zealand, they say, like, instead of they say...
Well, Natalie Portman, because she's so much shorter than Chris Hemsworth, they
had to build this deck for her so that when they're walking alongside each
other, they look like they're relatively the same height.
It's adorable.
It's so sweet.
And she just, like, always had to have it around.
It's true.
You said you do that sometimes? I feel like sometimes I need an Apple box so
things don't look too strange. Yeah.
Yeah. That is so cute. I live that life, too.
So she had this deck that they built.
but there with the accent it doesn't sound like deck sounds like something
else yes so they'd come in they'd be like just bring in the dick that's what
natalie's gonna get on the dick fantastic and we really loved it i
thought it was hard to keep an english accent when you're surrounded by new
zealand yeah that's why it's you know hodgepodge
But it wasn't just the accent you've been very vocal about the costume as
well. You did not like Valkyrie's costume No, I love her costume.
I just think that I don't know if you felt this no one prepares you for when
you play a super Oh my god, so uncomfortable.
Why do they do it? They didn't give me like a thing to pee like with mystique.
There was nothing I mean, I couldn't he okay, so they were like she doesn't have
to go to the bathroom same So I had that issue and then I was like we have to do
something about this Yeah, and so they put like a zip
in there, but you still have the whole costume.
Oh, they gave me a funnel.
Yeah, they gave me that too.
They gave me that too, but I was like, I don't, I can't. Good for you. I don't, I
can't do it.
Wow, rock on.
You used the funnel?
Yeah, I was like, oh, sorry.
It was mostly, did you ever have accidents with it? Mm-hmm.
So you would just like... I would just, like, come back with little drops of
pee. Same! And everybody was like, aw!
That's why I was... It was more that I was afraid of my ability with the
funnel. I'm so impressed that you made it work.
Well... I use a funnel myself. You use a funnel? Yes, very often. Bruce uses a
funnel.
Well, you were born with a funnel, no?
I have two sons, I know how this works.
Oh, here's the thing.
Jeremy, you know about big movie franchises because you are joining the
Star Wars world, aren't you? You are.
Yes, it's true. Yeah. Yes. Now, is this correct, you are playing Rotta the Hutt?
That's correct.
Rotta, yes.
And is Rotta any relation to Jabba the Hutt? That's correct, yes.
Oh. That's Dad.
I'm hoping the apple fell quite far from the tree You know, it's interesting. I
can't I can't say too much about it. But no, I look very much like that in the
film I just do voice work in the film
He's
just a bit broader but still like
A hut, yes.
It's kind of like him and the Mandalorian running around for a lot of
the movie together.
So, Roddick and run?
Roddick and move, yeah, quickly, yes. OK.
I'm intrigued.
Yeah, good.
And very quickly, Bruce, your band, The Cast... I say, The Castiles.
That's correct.
Were you literally named after the soap?
Yes, I was.
Or we were.
Did you pick...? I mean, how did you come up with that name, The Castile? It
was a popular shampoo in Freehold, New Jersey, at the time.
And in those days, it was kind of on the cusp of the 50s and 60s, so names like
The Dells, The Shirelles, you know, so The Castile sounded, you
know, suited for its moment, anyway.
And how old were you when you were in The Castile? I was 15.
15. We've got a picture.
of you in the Castiles, age 15. Here we go.
Now... I know, guess which one. I know, guess which one.
I mean, I figured it out by elimination, but it's not obvious at all.
It's the guy with all the acne.
Well, that doesn't narrow it down.
It's this one, right? That's correct. Yeah.
I mean, you do look really different.
You're the hottest one. The one on your right, who's he?
He got in the band because he was just so handsome. Right. I still think he's
number two.
And his hair was perfect.
Friend of mine, Paul Popkin.
Which meant a lot in those days. And I'm guessing you were slightly influenced by
the Beatles, would I be right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just a whiff of it.
It took a lot to get my hair that straight, I'm going to tell you.
Do you have curly hair?
I have curly hair.
When I had hair. And I used to steal my mother's long bobby pins and stick it in
my hair at night and sleep it like this on the pillow until it would be some
semblance of... Well, it was worth it. Fabulous.
Look at you there.
And with a Bruce Springsteen, everybody.
Oh.
Right, it's time for our music. Since her debut in 2009, she has won Brit
Awards, headlined Glastonbury, and sold over 10 million albums worldwide.
Here performing her new single, Everybody Scream, it is Florence and the
Machine.
you get on stage and i call her by her first name
try to stay away but i always need her back
at this place she gives me everything i
feel no pain i break down get up and do it all again
Cause it's never enough And she makes me feel loved And I can come here and
scream As loud as I want
I don't have to be quiet here, I don't have to be kind Extraordinary and normal
all at the same time But look at me run myself ragged, blood on the stage But
how can I leave you when you're screaming my name?
Racket and reeling Shocking my goal like tambourine A bouquet
of brambles All twisted and tangled I'll make you sing for me I'll make you
scream
Look at me burst through the ceiling Aren't you so glad you ca-
Magic and the misery madness and the mystery.
Oh, what has it done to me?
Everybody scream
And
her band and her choir come on over Florence do
come join us Here she comes I'll take it. I'll take
it. Don't worry about it
Give it to me!
Thank you very much. Hello, thank you so much for that. Come on up here.
It's Tessa, Jeremy, Bruce.
That's Mr Lawrence.
Oh, wow.
Thank you so much for that, Lawrence. Now, you know people, don't you?
Yes. I'm Tessa. It's so nice to see you.
Tessa knows everybody.
And I know you know Bruce because, weirdly, you were on the show together
before. This is where we hang out.
This is where me and Bruce meet up every four years Last
time you did not reveal
that you have history with mr. Springsteen's music.
I was too shy But I'm overwhelmed by bright lights and I don't even know if I
said anything when I sit down but I basically
I was too shy to tell you that one of the first songs that I ever started
performing was I'm Going Down.
Really? Yeah, I used to play it with my friend Kid Harpoon, and we sang it as a
duet. Holy cow. We used to play it in all the pubs and clubs of London.
Because you know when you're starting out, you don't really have any songs?
Of course. I had three of my own songs, and I'm Going Down was one of the other
covers I used to play.
So, yeah, it's...
Was too shy to tell you that last time but i'm so glad that we had our annual
meet up And that's an unusual choice for a duet, but uh,
it doesn't like it Take it back.
We'll do this in another four years. We'll discuss Or you two will do it
here. Oh, that's a lovely idea.
Yes Oh, yes
A collab.
A collab that was born on the show.
I'm producing now.
Listen, I should say, that single, Everybody Scream, it's from the upcoming
album of the same name, Here It Be, and it's out... Yes.
Yeah, right, it was.
There it all is. And, fittingly for Everybody Scream, it's out on Halloween.
Was that all planned?
Yeah, it was all planned and I actually...
Turned this album around faster than usual because I just wanted to make this
day. I was like no we have it all rhymes We have to make this date because it all
rhymes France the Machine everybody scream out on Halloween Marketing
genius.
Marketing genius.
And France the Machine on tour next year Am I right, this is academic, because
it's... What is it? Did the whole thing sell out in an hour or something?
It sold out very fast, yeah. Yeah. And this is not just UK, it's Europe as
well, all gone. UK and Europe, it's all gone.
But you are going to... Presumably, like, you know, I'm not your manager,
but are they adding dates?
No, that's it. OK.
It's gone.
It's on, but it's gone.
I'm just saying here, it's 242,500 tickets all gone.
Wow. Wow. That is impressive.
And you are putting on a show. It's not, like... Is the idea that it's going to
be, like, spooky?
Yeah.
So we wanted to do something a little different.
It's such a personal record that there needed to be a really solid world around
it. And we also wanted to do things we'd never done before.
And I wanted moments of it to be like really genuinely terrifying.
So yeah, you know.
It's good if you didn't get a ticket, it's very frightening.
People handing them back now. Don't stop complaining.
Listen, good luck with the tour and thanks again for that amazing
performance. Florence and the Machine!
Right, that's really it. Before we go, just time for a visit to the big red
chair. Who have we got? Hello.
Hello. Hi, what's your name?
Jonathan. Hello, Jonathan.
And where are you from?
I'm from East Horsley in Surrey. Wow, very specific in the end.
And what do you do there?
I'm retired.
OK. What did you do before?
I worked at the London Stock Exchange.
OK.
Did you take early retirement?
Yes.
We stopped caring about the story now Okay,
so I'm at a family barbecue at The in-laws and the children
are running around in the garden and we have a new puppy When we're tidying up
after eating the meal I'm sure that I see a Chicken
drumstick fall off a plate to the floor
But when I look at the floor, it's not there, but the puppy is.
Now, I have a hard time persuading anyone that this puppy, which is this
big, has swallowed a drumstick that's this big.
But I persuade my in-laws to search the rubbish to count the drumsticks.
And lo and behold, there is one missing.
So...
I like this story. It's very mysterious.
Oh, I was going to say dump him.
No, no, I like it. My wife says, well, if the dog had eaten a chicken bone, it
has to go to the vet. So she takes him off to the vet, and I stay behind with
the children. And long story short, she runs off with the vet.
LAUGHTER OK, that is an excellent story.
You can walk...
I mean, make that movie, somebody.
That's all we've got time for.
If you'd like to have a go at the red checkers and tell your story, you can
contact us via our website at this very address.
Please say a huge thank you to all of our guests tonight. Florence and the
Machine!
Jeremy Alan White!
And Mr Bruce Springsteen!
Join me next week with Little Sims, Rachel Zegler, Bryan Franston, Sarah
Paulson and Kim Kardashian.
I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
When Bruce Springsteen came to Britain, sharing memories on BBC iPlayer.
And there you can watch his 1975 concert with the E Street Band.
First of all, it's just the greatest.
I mean, there's nothing better than kissing a man in a movie.
And people say that's difficult, but they're wrong.
Like look at little you and me kiss now, okay Hit
them because look
he needs to be needs punishment like this you big idiot
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