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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,330 So, you're writing a book about Lucky Lucan and what happened. 2 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:17,320 So what did become of him? That's your problem, John. 3 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:19,410 Nobody will tell you. 4 00:00:21,220 --> 00:00:24,220 The children and I have no better than a hand-to-mouth existence, 5 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:26,290 yet he gambles away thousands every week. 6 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:29,210 I can hardly bear to live in the same house any more. 7 00:00:29,220 --> 00:00:32,210 Whom do you imagine will be given custody of your children? 8 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:35,340 Fight dirty, fight nasty, and let there be no shame. 9 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:39,250 Beware, Aspers. He does tend to come up with his own rules. 10 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:42,360 I feel it's best all round if you commit her to an institution. 11 00:00:42,370 --> 00:00:45,230 Has he told you I'm mad? Please, don't make a scene. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,350 There is nothing wrong with me! 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,310 The children shall remain wards of court, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,420 their care and control be restored to Lady Lucan. 15 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:58,290 Hello, I'm Sandra. Sandra Rivett. I'm here about the vacancy. 16 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:02,270 He'd lost his children, Mr Pearson. He was bitter and angry. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,420 You say you've no doubt Aspers was involved? 18 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:08,250 I've said all I'm going to say. Too much, in fact. 19 00:01:08,260 --> 00:01:10,390 I don't wish to discuss this any further. 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,440 You must be under no illusion as to what it is you would be getting into 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,220 should you choose to go down that path. 22 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:20,270 Her life against yours. 23 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:22,390 It's a gamble. 24 00:01:33,430 --> 00:01:37,290 Now you sleep well, darling, and I shall see you in the morning. 25 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:39,370 Night, Mum. Night, night. 26 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:40,420 Night. 27 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:53,290 Sandra. 28 00:01:55,390 --> 00:01:57,290 Sandra? 29 00:02:05,230 --> 00:02:07,350 Are you all right down there? 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Sandra? 31 00:02:20,370 --> 00:02:21,420 Shut up! 32 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,360 Where's Sandra? 33 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:05,400 Where is she? 34 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:20,200 She's dead. I've killed her. 35 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,330 She's in the kitchen. 36 00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:28,300 Oh, my God, what have you done? 37 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:30,420 Don't go down there. It's a bloody mess. 38 00:03:33,210 --> 00:03:34,400 I thought she was you. 39 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,290 Oh God... 40 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,220 Everything has turned to ashes. 41 00:03:44,350 --> 00:03:46,260 This is your doing! 42 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:50,220 You tried to take my children away from me. 43 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:52,440 You must have known I could not allow that to happen. 44 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:57,250 Yes, yes, yes... 45 00:03:57,260 --> 00:03:59,240 Yes, I'm sorry. 46 00:04:01,250 --> 00:04:05,320 I must make a decision. I must decide what to do. 47 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:09,400 Well I... 48 00:04:09,410 --> 00:04:12,300 I can er... I can help you. 49 00:04:15,260 --> 00:04:16,420 You? 50 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,420 Yes. 51 00:04:21,290 --> 00:04:24,280 We can... We can clean everything up together. 52 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:26,360 Get rid of the evidence. 53 00:04:28,210 --> 00:04:30,260 Please, John. 54 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:33,390 Let's just go upstairs and talk this through calmly. 55 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,240 It doesn't have to end like this. 56 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:41,420 Please, let's talk it through. Yes? 57 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,390 I ju... 58 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,310 I just need some water, my... 59 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:56,280 My throat, it hurts so badly... 60 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,350 Come on, hurry up. 61 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:48,300 Look at yourself! 62 00:05:59,370 --> 00:06:01,440 Go upstairs to your bedroom, darling. 63 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,230 That's right. Just go straight to bed, darling. 64 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,400 That's right. That's right, in your... 65 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:10,290 Go into your bedroom, darling! 66 00:06:19,310 --> 00:06:20,440 Wait! Wait, wait... 67 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:42,380 Oh! 68 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:48,290 Here, you'd better clean yourself up. 69 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:05,360 Do you have any Tuinol in the bathroom? 70 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Yes, I think so. 71 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,250 Would you consider taking an overdose? 72 00:07:36,340 --> 00:07:40,440 That might be the best way out of all this, don't you think? 73 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:47,330 (Yes.) 74 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,370 Yes, all right then. 75 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:59,300 Could you get me a glass of water? 76 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,270 Veronica? 77 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,420 Veronica! 78 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:30,250 Bitch! 79 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,230 Help me! Help me, please, help me! 80 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,370 Please! 81 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:53,360 Help me, help me! 82 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:56,420 I've just escaped from being murdered. Help me! 83 00:08:56,430 --> 00:09:00,360 Help me, please, somebody! Please, please, please! 84 00:09:00,370 --> 00:09:02,230 Somebody call 9-9-9. 85 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,410 Help me! OK, come on. 86 00:09:06,390 --> 00:09:08,220 My children! 87 00:09:32,270 --> 00:09:34,410 Hello? Mother, it's me, John. 88 00:09:34,420 --> 00:09:37,330 Can you listen carefully, please? There's... 89 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:40,290 There's been a terrible catastrophe at the house and I... 90 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:43,350 I need you to go there right away and collect the children. 91 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,230 What has happened? 92 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,300 Er, the children are all right, but Veronica's hurt, and erm... 93 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:52,250 ..and also the nanny. 94 00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:54,260 Are they badly hurt? 95 00:09:56,420 --> 00:09:58,380 I think so, yes. 96 00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:01,420 I need you to collect the children, they're on their own. 97 00:10:01,430 --> 00:10:03,440 And ring Bill Shand-Kydd for help. 98 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Are you all right, Johnny? 99 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,260 Yes, I'm fine but I've... I've got to go. 100 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:14,260 I'll explain later. Please... Please hurry, Mother. 101 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,300 It had been my intention 102 00:10:29,310 --> 00:10:32,410 to write a book about a lost world of gamblers and aristocrats, 103 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:36,380 but my research had been taken over by the Lucan mystery. 104 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,240 A picture of the immediate events of that night could be pieced together 105 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:44,210 from police records and witness statements. 106 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:49,280 After the phone call to his mother, Lucan left the city in a hurry. 107 00:10:49,290 --> 00:10:51,210 He headed south. 108 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,380 It's open. 109 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:36,270 You check out upstairs. I'll have a look down here. 110 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:52,220 Where's Mummy and Sandra? 111 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:24,280 Lucky? 112 00:13:24,290 --> 00:13:25,440 Is Ian here? 113 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,430 I'm afraid he's not. He's stayed on in London. 114 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,230 Right. What's the matter? 115 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Do you want to come in? 116 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,380 If I could, Susie. Thank you. 117 00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:37,420 I'm sorry, madam, you can't go inside... 118 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:40,220 I'm here to collect my grandchildren. 119 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:42,390 Sir, she says she's the children's grandmother. 120 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,420 I am Dowager Countess of Lucan. How did you know to come here? 121 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:48,320 My son called me and told me to collect the children. 122 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:50,340 Are you going to tell me what has happened? 123 00:13:50,350 --> 00:13:52,340 I understand there's been an incident? 124 00:13:52,350 --> 00:13:54,280 I'm afraid I can't tell you anything. 125 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:57,290 We're still trying to understand it. Fetch the children. 126 00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:00,230 My daughter-in-law has been treated for a mental complaint. 127 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,220 She and my son are separated. 128 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:05,210 She's a manic depressive and the courts have told her 129 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:07,230 she must continue her medical treatment. 130 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,200 I'm afraid she's in hospital with serious head injuries. 131 00:14:10,210 --> 00:14:11,430 Well, where's the nanny? 132 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,310 The children's nanny has been pronounced deceased. 133 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,310 We found her body downstairs in the kitchen. 134 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Can I ask, ma'am, where your son is now? 135 00:14:20,410 --> 00:14:22,280 I'm afraid I don't know. 136 00:14:22,290 --> 00:14:25,300 He told me he had to go somewhere and then he hung up. 137 00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:28,300 It was only a short conversation. You don't think he's involved? 138 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:31,290 Grandma! Oh, darlings. Come on! 139 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:32,440 Come on, sweetheart. 140 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,440 How lovely, lovely, lovely. Into the back of the car. 141 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,310 Hello, darling. Very good. 142 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,300 If your son gets in touch again, could you please refer him to us? 143 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:43,210 We need to speak to him urgently. Into the back. 144 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,220 Thank you. 145 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:03,310 I've, er... I've had the most nightmarish experience, Susie. 146 00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:07,320 It's... 147 00:15:07,330 --> 00:15:12,240 It's so incredible, I don't think you or anyone else can believe it. 148 00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:14,330 Try me. 149 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:21,370 I was er... I was passing the house this evening. 150 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:25,300 I walk past it regularly these days to keep an eye on the children. 151 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,250 And...I saw some sort of...struggle 152 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:32,440 going on in the kitchen. 153 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,220 Through the blinds in the basement 154 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:38,400 I could see Veronica grappling with a man. 155 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:45,400 I ran into the house, I still have a key, of course, 156 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:49,240 and I flew down the stairs into the kitchen. 157 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:54,260 At the bottom of the stairs I slipped on something 158 00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:56,420 that I later discovered to be blood. 159 00:15:56,430 --> 00:15:59,200 I got it over my clothes. 160 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:00,440 And, as I was lying there... 161 00:16:02,350 --> 00:16:05,340 ..this man, whoever he was, made his escape. 162 00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:12,250 I could see that Veronica was very badly hurt and... 163 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:19,220 Sandra was lying...half in a sack. 164 00:16:19,230 --> 00:16:21,290 The poor girl was quite dead. 165 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:23,310 Oh, dear God! 166 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,360 V was...was crying out that this... 167 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:30,200 ..this man had murdered Sandra. 168 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,320 There was blood and mess everywhere. 169 00:16:33,330 --> 00:16:36,260 It... It was a ghastly situation. 170 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Then, as I was trying to help her, in the same breath, 171 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,200 she accused me of hiring this man to murder her. 172 00:16:48,210 --> 00:16:52,390 She kept on using the phrase 'contract killer'. 173 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:55,430 Must have heard it on one of those 174 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,320 American TV movies she watches all the time. 175 00:16:58,330 --> 00:17:01,350 This is too horrible! John, what did you do? 176 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,310 Well, I managed to get her upstairs to the bedroom. 177 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,370 I was going to try and treat the wounds on her head. 178 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:12,270 Then I was going to call an ambulance and ring the police. 179 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,400 As I was going into the bathroom to wet a flannel she, she bolted. 180 00:17:19,230 --> 00:17:21,330 God alone knows what she's saying but... 181 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:26,260 I'm pretty sure that I am being implicated in what happened. 182 00:17:26,270 --> 00:17:28,320 The woman will do anything to bring me down. 183 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:30,280 Surely she wouldn't stoop that low. 184 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,390 It's the children I'm worried about. 185 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,290 I must use your telephone to check they're all right. 186 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:40,380 Of course. I'll give you some privacy. 187 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:45,350 Oh and er, Susie, could I also have a pen and a clean piece of paper? 188 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:48,260 I want to write down some thoughts 189 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:50,270 whilst they're still clear in my mind. 190 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:55,400 I'll get you one. 191 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:07,270 Hello? It's Johnny. 192 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,210 I'm just ringing about the children. They're here, safe and sound. 193 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Thank goodness for that. 194 00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:17,430 Er... And Veronica? 195 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,270 She's been taken to hospital. 196 00:18:21,370 --> 00:18:24,400 Have you heard from the police? 197 00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:29,290 Well, they're here with me now. Would you like to speak to them? 198 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:33,270 Erm... No. No, I... I think not. 199 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,430 Tell them I'll ring them in the morning and I'll call you, too. 200 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,370 OK. Goodbye, Mama. 201 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:47,230 That was my son. 202 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,310 He won't speak to you now. He'll speak to you in the morning. 203 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,380 The children are with my mother. 204 00:18:59,390 --> 00:19:01,340 Thank you. 205 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:10,350 Lucky, why don't you stay the night? 206 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:13,230 You can have a wash. 207 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,400 I'll prepare you a meal. You must be famished. 208 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:20,320 And then, tomorrow, I'll go with you to the police. 209 00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:25,230 Er, that's very sweet of you, but I'll have to go back 210 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,370 and...find out what she's done to me. 211 00:19:28,420 --> 00:19:31,200 I must write to my brother-in-law. 212 00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:44,350 "Dear Bill... 213 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:47,290 "the circumstantial evidence against me is strong 214 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:50,260 "in that V will say it was all my doing. 215 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:53,380 "I am only interested in the children. 216 00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:57,330 "If you can manage it, I want them to live with you. 217 00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:01,260 "V has demonstrated her hatred for me in the past 218 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:03,420 "and would do anything to see me accused." 219 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:11,200 Dear Lucky... 220 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:15,410 All you have to do is tell your story calmly, faithfully. 221 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:18,250 The truth will out. 222 00:20:19,310 --> 00:20:21,280 Well, thank you for everything. 223 00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:24,350 Don't forget to post those letters. I'll do it first thing. 224 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:29,440 Goodbye, Susie. 225 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:53,250 And then he was gone. 226 00:20:53,260 --> 00:20:59,260 Susan Maxwell-Scott was the last person to admit to seeing Lucan alive. 227 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:03,380 Good morning, sir. 228 00:21:09,210 --> 00:21:12,320 Sit down, Dominick. Help yourself to some hock. 229 00:21:12,330 --> 00:21:16,360 There are cold cuts over there and a slice of Mother's game pie. 230 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:19,220 God help us. I'm fine, thanks. 231 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:22,420 Right, well, you all know why you're here. 232 00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:26,410 A friend of ours is in trouble. 233 00:21:26,420 --> 00:21:30,260 As far as we can tell, there was some sort of incident last night 234 00:21:30,270 --> 00:21:32,320 at 46 Lower Belgrave Street. 235 00:21:32,330 --> 00:21:34,440 Lucky Lucan is wanted for questioning 236 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,250 over an attack upon his wife and, it seems, 237 00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:41,230 the death of his children's nanny. 238 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:43,420 I will begin by asking 239 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:47,330 if anybody has heard from Lucky in the last 12 hours? 240 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,230 And what about you, Aspers, has he not rung you? 241 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,250 He has not, but let me tell you this, 242 00:21:56,260 --> 00:21:59,440 if he did, Lucky Lucan is my friend. 243 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,240 If he came to me, covered in blood, having done some frightful deed, 244 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:08,420 the last thing that would occur to me would be to turn him in. 245 00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:12,300 That would go against every last instinct of human loyalty. 246 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:15,240 It would also go against the law. Oh, to hell with the law! 247 00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:21,350 To hell with the common norms of civic behaviour, whatever they are. 248 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:24,390 If the law doesn't suit, then change it. 249 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,310 If you can't change it, then damn the law. 250 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,290 Weakness is bringing this country to its knees. 251 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:35,300 Our trade unions seek to destroy our industry and economy. 252 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:39,380 Our government aids them by driving from these shores the leaders, 253 00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:41,350 the strong and the wealthy, 254 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,240 taxing them at 98 pence in the pound. 255 00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:47,320 Nobody likes paying tax... We must fight back! 256 00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:49,440 Our very future depends on it. 257 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,430 In times such as these, I should like to think 258 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,320 if our friend turned up on any of our doorsteps, 259 00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:57,330 we should offer him sanctuary. 260 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:59,380 What exactly has happened? 261 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:03,240 It's confusing trying to piece it together from the papers and, 262 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,350 various bits of gossip flying around this morning. 263 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:10,240 I think matters between Lucky and Veronica came to a head last night. 264 00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:13,220 Custody of those children should have been awarded to Lucky. 265 00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:15,220 Has Christina spoken to Veronica lately? 266 00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:17,260 We haven't spoken to her for months. 267 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:19,250 It's impossible to have a conversation 268 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:22,340 without the whole thing descending into the most almighty row. 269 00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:25,270 How badly hurt is Veronica? I don't know. 270 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,430 How did the nanny end up dead? 271 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280 I don't think for a second Lucky killed her. 272 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,290 Why would he do such a thing? 273 00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:37,200 We don't know yet, but I've had a lot of calls this morning 274 00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:39,310 asking what to do if we're approached by the police. 275 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,310 It is essential that we say nothing of Lucky's affairs 276 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,420 until we do know precisely what has happened, 277 00:23:44,430 --> 00:23:47,290 and can be confident of not incriminating him. 278 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:51,320 We can't incriminate Lucky because he hasn't done anything! 279 00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:53,360 He's not a violent man, I'm sure. 280 00:23:53,370 --> 00:23:55,350 What about Veronica? 281 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,360 Your concern is endearing, but it rather misses the point. 282 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:02,350 Lucky is our friend, not his wife. I meant what does she say about it? 283 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,330 Perhaps there's been some sort of terrible mistake? 284 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:08,220 Wouldn't it be a good idea to pay her a visit 285 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:10,300 and find out what she says about it? 286 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:13,360 Well, if further unpleasantness can be avoided, that is to be welcomed. 287 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,440 Bill, she's your sister-in-law? 288 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,410 I suspect somebody else will be able to get rather more out of her. 289 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:22,270 Very well then. 290 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,440 Dominick... 291 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,260 As you're so concerned for her wellbeing. 292 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,440 Yes, all right. I'll go. 293 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:35,360 Sir. Dave. 294 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:37,300 This it? 295 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:40,440 Lent to Lucan about a month ago by a friend called Michael Stoop. 296 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,310 Left here somewhere between five and eight in the morning. 297 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,430 Nobody saw anyone get out the car. It's an absolute gold mine, sir. 298 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,390 Blood and hair found on the seats, steering wheel and floor. 299 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,200 Look at this. 300 00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:56,270 Almost an exact match of the one found at the house. 301 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,360 Same sort of tape wrapped round it. Just a bit longer. 302 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:02,370 Newhaven? Why here? The ferry? 303 00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:06,250 First one sailed for Dieppe just after six this morning. 304 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:09,280 Sussex police are looking at the passenger lists. 305 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:12,290 He could have got a 60-hour passport over the counter. 306 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,440 I can't believe he'd get on a commercial ferry 307 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,430 when he knows we'd find the car here. 308 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,270 His club said he made a late booking for dinner in town last night. 309 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,270 So, he leaves the family home in Lower Belgrave Street at, what? 310 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,330 Just after nine o'clock last night? Yeah. 311 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:32,380 Then he turns up in Newhaven a minimum of...seven hours later. 312 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:35,410 Well, where did he go? 313 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:39,260 Who did he see? 314 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:04,270 Ian? Sir, he insisted on waiting. 315 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,310 Aspers, I need a word. 316 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:11,270 Lucky arrived at the house last night. 317 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,300 I'd stayed in London at the club. 318 00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:15,430 Susie took him in and she had a chat with him. 319 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,270 What did he say? 320 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,320 He said he was innocent of the attack 321 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:23,280 and he tried to stop another man from attacking Veronica. 322 00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:25,340 Said he was walking past the house at the time. 323 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:29,220 I have to say, Aspers, it sounded rather far-fetched to me. 324 00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:31,230 Has Susie gone to the police? 325 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,260 Not yet, no. 326 00:26:33,270 --> 00:26:36,400 She posted some letters for him this morning and then I came home. 327 00:26:36,410 --> 00:26:39,280 Who were the letters to? Bill Shand-Kydd. 328 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,340 Aspers, she has to report this to the police. Yes, of course. 329 00:26:44,350 --> 00:26:48,430 Do you think I should call them now? I should think it's rather late now. 330 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,420 Yes. I suppose Susie could ring them in the morning. 331 00:26:52,430 --> 00:26:56,240 I think that's the best option, old thing, call them in the morning. 332 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Now who's the mad one? 333 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,350 (Oh, God.) 334 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,210 He tried to kill me, Dominick. 335 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:51,380 What happened? 336 00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:56,310 Was it a row that got out of hand, heat of the moment sort of thing? 337 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,390 It was premeditated. 338 00:28:00,250 --> 00:28:04,300 I was to be done away with so he could continue his life without me. 339 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:07,220 And...Nanny Sandra? 340 00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:09,340 He killed her by mistake. 341 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:12,400 He told me he thought she was me. 342 00:28:15,330 --> 00:28:17,270 Oh. 343 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,220 You know he's taken leave of his senses. 344 00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:27,290 I would never have thought John capable of violence. 345 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,300 He's struck me before, a number of times. 346 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,280 And what are you going to do now? 347 00:28:38,290 --> 00:28:41,300 Oh, I know that's why you're really here. 348 00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:43,320 You can tell Aspers 349 00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:46,350 thank you very much for the flowers, but it's too late. 350 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,220 I've given a statement to the police naming my husband as my attacker, 351 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:54,340 and that he admitted to me to killing Sandra. 352 00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:58,310 Please don't bracket me with Aspers. 353 00:29:00,370 --> 00:29:03,280 I cannot defend the indefensible. 354 00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:06,340 What's happened to you is... 355 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:09,210 ..is grotesque. 356 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,220 Detective Superintendent Gerring. We're here to see Mrs Maxwell-Scott. 357 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:23,440 Ah yes, of course. 358 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400 There was a 48-hour gap between Lord Lucan being here, 359 00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:30,370 and you reporting it to the police. 360 00:29:30,380 --> 00:29:32,350 Why did you not contact us earlier? 361 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:37,340 I had no reason to. This is a murder inquiry. 362 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:40,320 By your own admission, Lucan told you of the death of Mrs Rivett, 363 00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:42,300 and you noticed blood on his clothing. 364 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:45,300 He explained that, he'd slipped on the kitchen floor. 365 00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:50,290 Obstructing the course of justice is very serious, Mrs Maxwell-Scott. 366 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,310 She isn't obstructing, it's just she didn't realise 367 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,330 how much publicity the case had attracted. 368 00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:58,310 It's fairly remote here. 369 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400 The next day you didn't turn on the television or radio, did you? 370 00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:05,320 No! I had no way of knowing it was such big news. 371 00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:09,220 John and I simply had a chat. 372 00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:12,330 He left in the early hours and in the morning I posted his letters. 373 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:16,240 Letters? What letters? 374 00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:18,250 "For my children to go through life 375 00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:22,210 "knowing their father had stood in the dock for attempted murder 376 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:23,430 "would be too much. 377 00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:27,240 "When they're old enough to understand, 378 00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:29,250 "explain to them the... 379 00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:33,430 "..the dream of paranoia and look after them." 380 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,410 "Dream of paranoia"? 381 00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:37,360 It's Lucan's handwriting. 382 00:30:37,370 --> 00:30:41,210 Forensics have confirmed the blood stains on the envelopes. 383 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,440 And this third letter was to Michael Stoop? 384 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,300 Fella who lent him the Ford Corsair. 385 00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:51,310 Anything on the ferry passengers lists? 386 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,320 As far as we can tell, unless he disguised himself very heavily, 387 00:30:55,330 --> 00:30:57,390 he wasn't on any of the crossings that morning. 388 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,290 A description's been issued through Interpol. Borders are on alert. 389 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:02,380 Was there no envelope? 390 00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:05,310 Stoop said he threw it away after he opened it. 391 00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:09,340 Mrs Maxwell-Scott said she definitely didn't post it. 392 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:12,240 Lucan only gave her two letters, both for Shand-Kydd. 393 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,390 We don't know where he posted it from, or when? 394 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,240 I think it's time we started to rattle a few cages. 395 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:20,250 Let's talk to his friends. 396 00:31:20,260 --> 00:31:22,320 All those Lords and Ladies, 397 00:31:22,330 --> 00:31:25,220 better start brushing up on my etiquette. 398 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:27,340 Don't worry about etiquette, old son. 399 00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:31,410 We mind our Ps and Qs, Dave. But we don't hold back, all right? 400 00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:34,280 This is a murder inquiry. 401 00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:50,300 Detective Superintendent Gerring. We're here to speak to Mr Aspinall. 402 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:51,440 Yes, do come in. 403 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Mr Aspinall is having lunch. 404 00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:56,430 He's asked if you could wait here for him. 405 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,400 We did have an appointment. We are here at the specified time. 406 00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:01,350 If you could wait here. 407 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,370 I'm telling you, I'm not in the mood for playing silly buggers. 408 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,200 James. Dominick. 409 00:32:22,210 --> 00:32:24,410 Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you, too. Take a seat. 410 00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:27,320 I've ordered us a bottle of Perrier Jouet. 411 00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:30,220 Ah, very good. The Sunday Times is paying? 412 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:33,200 Oh yes, yes, it's all on account. Good. 413 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:35,420 So, you want to commission a painting from me? 414 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:37,380 Yes, erm... 415 00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:40,260 I want it to be something set in your club. 416 00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:41,360 The Clermont? 417 00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:44,380 Lots of people have suggested I should talk to you. 418 00:32:44,390 --> 00:32:47,260 I'm interested in your friends, 419 00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:50,360 and how what's happened to Lord Lucan has affected you all. 420 00:33:01,210 --> 00:33:03,310 If you're going to do an article, 421 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,410 you've got to do something about Veronica. 422 00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:07,290 Veronica? 423 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:11,280 Yeah, the poor thing. She's been dreadfully bashed about. 424 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:12,410 She's lucky to be alive 425 00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:16,230 and it's very unfair the way people are talking about her. 426 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,430 She's an intelligent woman, perhaps too intelligent for some. 427 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,430 How do people talk about her? 428 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:27,290 Well, they say she's one of the most disliked women in London, 429 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:29,370 but most people who say that haven't met her. 430 00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:33,230 You know, I-I adore Lucky, I do. 431 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,300 I adore him but the life he inflicted on Veronica was a form of torture. 432 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:39,390 I mean, she managed to stick it out for nine years, 433 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,390 taking her nightly seat on the 'widow's bench' behind him, 434 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,240 watching him work his way through the family fortune. 435 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:48,280 It must be some sort of record. 436 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:55,250 Right, this has gone on long enough. We're not here to be made fools of. 437 00:33:57,210 --> 00:34:00,250 Where is he, in there? Please, sir. I've asked you to wait. 438 00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:03,230 We were here at the agreed time. We are investigating a murder. 439 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,300 Mr Aspinall is having lunch with some guests! 440 00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:08,230 Who's so bloody important that we have to be kept waiting? 441 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,240 Sir! 442 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:12,420 Good afternoon, officer, so sorry to keep you waiting. 443 00:34:12,430 --> 00:34:16,250 My guests and I were just enjoying a spot of lunch. 444 00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:18,440 Would you care to join us? 445 00:34:20,330 --> 00:34:24,230 The sexual revolution is despised by the upper classes. 446 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:27,220 Not for reasons of prudishness. 447 00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:30,310 It's just they were already boffing away left, right and centre, 448 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,370 and don't like the idea of everyone else getting in on the act. 449 00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:39,200 That and the fact most toffs I know pretty much hate women. 450 00:34:40,430 --> 00:34:43,260 Well, how does Veronica fit into all this? 451 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,210 She was just not Lucky's type. 452 00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:50,200 One could see straight away, she was too bright. 453 00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:52,360 I mean, he's a creature of habit. 454 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,390 A dozen identical pin striped suits from the same tailor's, 455 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,240 the smoked salmon and lamb cutlets for lunch every, every day. 456 00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:01,440 That sort of thing. 457 00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:07,440 You know, I suppose she thought she was marrying 458 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,430 into a life of glamour and privilege. 459 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,290 He thought he was getting someone to push out babies 460 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:13,420 and do as she was told. 461 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:16,320 No. 462 00:35:19,390 --> 00:35:22,360 Didn't quite turn out that way for either of them. 463 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Has Lord Lucan been in contact with you since the night of November 7th? 464 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,370 No. Would you object if we were to make a search of the premises? 465 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:36,210 You wish to lift the floorboards? And your zoo? 466 00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:37,320 Ah, my zoo. 467 00:35:37,330 --> 00:35:39,270 I too have heard the rumour, 468 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200 about me feeding his body to the tigers. 469 00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:45,380 You're quite welcome to have a squeeze through their droppings. 470 00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:49,340 Who knows, maybe you'll find an undigested signet ring? 471 00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:51,440 Are you proud to be the friend of a man 472 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,230 who tried to bash his wife to death? 473 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,400 If she'd been my wife I'd have bashed her to death five years ago, 474 00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,430 and so would you. 475 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,270 Lucky and I with some er... with some serious crumpet. 476 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400 You know, funnily enough he's never been a boffer. 477 00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:12,350 You know, not really interested in girls that way. 478 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,270 They all seemed to love him though. 479 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,360 Annabel Birley and her crowd were all over him on a holiday in Mexico. 480 00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:21,260 Someone has a photo of her with her arms around him. 481 00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:24,380 It's all good fun. She's been with Jimmy Goldsmith for years. 482 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,350 That would be worth seeing. 483 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,220 Yeah well, I don't know who has it. Someone will have a copy. 484 00:36:36,370 --> 00:36:40,420 James, you'll try to make us look half human in this article? 485 00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:44,350 Aspers says it's pretty important the public are not alienated, 486 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,250 what with the inquest coming up. 487 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:48,340 At the moment it does seem to be, 488 00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:51,360 I don't know, open season on my friends and me. 489 00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:55,430 I'll tell the truth, Dominick. I can promise you that. 490 00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:59,390 Yes, of course. 491 00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:03,430 The inquest has been set for June, Jimmy. 492 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,430 Are you sure your strategy is correct? 493 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,200 So far there's only been one side of the story put forward, 494 00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:11,340 that of Veronica's. 495 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:13,380 The inquest will redress this. 496 00:37:13,390 --> 00:37:15,410 It will, in effect, be a murder trial. 497 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:19,430 The police will seek to identify Lucky as public enemy number one. 498 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,440 But, with the Lucan family retaining a barrister 499 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,360 we shall at last be able to put Lucky's version of events 500 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:27,320 to Veronica in a court of law. 501 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,230 But does his version bear scrutiny, hmm? 502 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,380 This is a very delicate time for me, Aspers. 503 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:35,300 I've been having discussions about joining the cabinet. 504 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,300 It does if accompanied by an examination 505 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:42,320 of the undoubted hatred shown by Veronica towards Lucky 506 00:37:42,330 --> 00:37:45,300 in the months leading up to November the 7th. 507 00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:47,370 If Lucky's still alive, what then? 508 00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:49,360 If we can prepare the ground for him, 509 00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:53,360 I would imagine he'd return to clear his name and reclaim his children. 510 00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:55,340 The inquest verdict will be, 511 00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:58,290 'murder by person or persons unknown'. 512 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:02,380 The hunt will then switch to the man Lucky said he saw attacking Veronica. 513 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:06,290 In the meantime, work has been ongoing 514 00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,340 to try and balance things out a bit with the press. 515 00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:12,410 Dominick has set up an article with The Sunday Times magazine 516 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,390 which should paint us in a rather more favourable light. 517 00:38:20,260 --> 00:38:22,440 I'm determined to win, Jimmy. 518 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:35,310 Have you anything to say before the inquest? 519 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,440 I will simply say this... 520 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,320 I was brought up to believe in the presumption 521 00:38:40,330 --> 00:38:43,310 of somebody being innocent until proven guilty. 522 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,430 I believe my son to be innocent of all the charges levelled against him. 523 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,310 Have you spoken to him? Is he still alive? 524 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,380 It must have been just after nine when I decided to go downstairs 525 00:38:55,390 --> 00:38:58,440 and find out what had happened to Sandra with the tea. 526 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,320 I got to the top of the basement stairs 527 00:39:01,330 --> 00:39:04,350 and it was dark down there, so I called her name. 528 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440 What happened then? 529 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,250 I heard a noise. What sort of noise? 530 00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:12,240 A noise of somebody or something behind me. 531 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,330 As I turned towards it, somebody rushed out and hit me on the head. 532 00:39:17,340 --> 00:39:20,400 The same person then attempted to silence me 533 00:39:20,410 --> 00:39:22,440 by stuffing his fingers into my mouth. 534 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,230 The person then attempted to strangle me 535 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,390 but I managed to twist around and... 536 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,320 ..and grab his privates. 537 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:37,380 And at this he desisted? 538 00:39:37,390 --> 00:39:39,310 Yes. 539 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,400 And did you hear anybody speak during this attack? 540 00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:46,360 Initially when I started to scream, the person said, "Shut up". 541 00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:49,430 Did you recognise the voice? Who was it? 542 00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:54,350 My husband. 543 00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:59,210 It was Lord Lucan who attacked me. 544 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:05,360 Sir, I am retained by Lord Lucan's mother, 545 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:08,220 the Dowager Countess of Lucan. 546 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:13,340 Lady Lucan, you separated from your husband in January 1973? 547 00:40:13,350 --> 00:40:15,390 January the 7th, yes. 548 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,320 And the position was that, even before the separation, 549 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:23,320 you entertained feelings of hatred against your husband? 550 00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:27,270 Objection. The relationship between Lord and Lady Lucan is not relevant. 551 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,270 I shall dismiss the jury and hear legal arguments to the court. 552 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,210 Clear the court. 553 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,430 My instructions are as follows, by the beginning of 1973, 554 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,380 Lady Lucan, quite definitely, hated her husband. 555 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:45,380 There was a suggestion in one of the letters of paranoia, 556 00:40:45,390 --> 00:40:49,230 and I would like to have in evidence that the relationship 557 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,270 between Lord and Lady Lucan had deteriorated to a point 558 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,320 where she had become paranoid and was quite capable 559 00:40:55,330 --> 00:40:57,410 of holding her husband responsible for the attack. 560 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,330 I don't think evidence about a witness's mental state 561 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:01,420 should be brought into it. 562 00:41:01,430 --> 00:41:05,240 That would take me beyond the bounds of my remit. 563 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:06,340 Sir, I submit... 564 00:41:06,350 --> 00:41:09,290 Airing of family tensions would not benefit this inquiry, 565 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:13,320 and to turn this into a family forum to air those tensions 566 00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:15,330 would be a wrong thing. 567 00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:18,340 Members of the jury, if you are satisfied 568 00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:22,330 with what you have heard on the injuries to Mrs Rivett, 569 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:26,230 then your verdict has to be murder. 570 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:32,200 But you must also try to ascertain the person or persons, if any, 571 00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:34,410 to be charged with murder, 572 00:41:34,420 --> 00:41:36,420 and on the evidence, 573 00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:40,320 to decide whether you feel you can name someone. 574 00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:44,420 Remember, there is also the possibility of an intruder. 575 00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:48,390 And, if you were to name someone, 576 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,290 you must bear in mind it is a serious matter 577 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,320 from the point of view of stigma. 578 00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:58,440 The responsibility is yours. 579 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,330 Do you know where Lord Lucan is? 580 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:06,370 As a gambler, I'd give even money on him being alive or dead. 581 00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:08,410 I hope he's alive. 582 00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:12,410 If he is, where do you think he is? 583 00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:15,210 In hiding somewhere? 584 00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:18,350 Securely tucked away, biding his time? 585 00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:22,320 And, if he turned up here now? 586 00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:24,300 I would embrace him. 587 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,260 Do you think he should escape the law? 588 00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:34,240 I don't know if he's killed Mrs Rivett or not, I believe not. 589 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:38,390 But, I know that he's a figure like myself, born out of this time. 590 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,270 His qualities, as they appeared to me, 591 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,240 were old-fashioned qualities like loyalty, honesty and reliability. 592 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,430 If he came to me, I would do whatever he asked. 593 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:56,290 We're going back now to our remote past, as Anglo-Saxons, 594 00:42:56,300 --> 00:43:01,260 when friends kept together and faced the battle regardless, side by side. 595 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:03,370 Would you please read the verdict to the court. 596 00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:06,360 Murder... 597 00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:09,420 ..by Lord Lucan. 598 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,420 Today's events do not alter anything. 599 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:21,380 There is a warrant out for the arrest of Lord Lucan, 600 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:24,340 and that would still have been in force whatever the verdict. 601 00:43:24,350 --> 00:43:27,300 The search for him will go on until we find him, dead or alive. 602 00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:29,430 Lady Lucan, how do you feel, you must be pleased? 603 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,360 I'm neither pleased nor displeased. 604 00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:33,390 I was concerned with establishing the facts. 605 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,350 But, it's a blow for Lord Lucan's family and supporters? 606 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,310 His mother complained Lord Lucan had been convicted 607 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,380 without having had the chance to defend himself. 608 00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:44,360 She overlooks the fact he could have gone to the police that night 609 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:46,230 and explained his actions. 610 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:47,330 It was his choice to run. 611 00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:49,220 That's enough questions! 612 00:43:49,230 --> 00:43:51,430 Excuse me, are you Sandra Rivett's parents? 613 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,270 We are, yes. 614 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,250 I was just wondering if you had anything to say about the verdict? 615 00:43:58,390 --> 00:44:00,420 My daughter was hardly mentioned in there 616 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:04,390 and yet she was supposed to be the reason why we were all there. 617 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,370 All we heard about was the quarrels 618 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:09,430 between Lord and Lady Lucan and their family. 619 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,230 No-one seemed to spare a thought for our poor Sandra! 620 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,200 Aspinall took it very badly by all accounts. 621 00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:35,240 His grand plan to rehabilitate Lucan's name had come to nought, 622 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:37,420 and so it seemed, had my story... 623 00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,440 I'd run into a dead end. 624 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400 What had become of Lucan? Where was he? 625 00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:49,250 I had picked up hints and clues, but nothing concrete. 626 00:44:50,410 --> 00:44:54,380 And without an answer to the riddle, nothing made any sense. 627 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:58,300 I was faced with scrapping the whole project. 628 00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:02,320 Then, fate intervened. 629 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:08,360 Mrs Maxwell-Scott? 630 00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:12,360 I was very surprised to get your message. 631 00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:16,330 I didn't think I'd be seeing you again. 632 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,310 I'm dying, Mr Pearson. I haven't been given long to live. 633 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,430 Oh dear. I-I'm so sorry. 634 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,390 Are you? 635 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,300 I'm not. 636 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:30,430 Erm... 637 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,310 John Lucan has been on my mind recently. 638 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,250 And I've come to the conclusion that, perhaps, the time... 639 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,420 The time for what? 640 00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:48,320 To tell you what I know. 641 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,230 I think Ian would have wanted it to come out in the end. 642 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,360 In the early days, I... 643 00:45:58,350 --> 00:46:02,350 I gave Lucky the benefit of the doubt about that night. 644 00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:07,220 But now, I've come to accept that... 645 00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:13,270 ..perhaps he had planned to do away with Veronica... 646 00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:15,360 ..and that he... 647 00:46:17,350 --> 00:46:20,340 ..murdered Sandra by mistake. 648 00:46:20,350 --> 00:46:25,310 Ian was working with Aspers at the time that Lucky went missing, 649 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,230 and by picking up on conversations and putting two and two together, 650 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:36,370 he thought he'd managed to work out what had happened. 651 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:39,310 Get me a refill, would you? 652 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,400 Yes, of course. 653 00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:50,380 I think Lucky rang Aspers 654 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:54,290 from the telephone box up the road that night... 655 00:46:55,310 --> 00:46:58,300 ..and made the arrangements. 656 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:00,440 Goodbye, Susie. 657 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,310 He left me about 1.15, but he didn't arrive in Newhaven 658 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,400 which was only 40 minutes drive away, until around five. 659 00:47:58,410 --> 00:48:02,260 He must have been driving around, but why? 660 00:48:02,270 --> 00:48:06,350 Well, it's my belief, you see, that he was waiting for someone. 661 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Ian had told me about the 'little facility' in Newhaven. 662 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,720 How Aspers had a money dealer, 663 00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:22,670 who he'd used in the past to get cash 664 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,750 and that sort of thing out to the continent. 665 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,750 And, I believe that it was this man 666 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,640 who Lucky was waiting for... 667 00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:35,800 ..to get him out of the country. 668 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,760 Get out of sight! Get inside now! 669 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:58,620 Ian said he thought they got Lucky to Switzerland, 670 00:48:58,630 --> 00:49:03,610 where Aspers' man had arranged a bolt hole for him. 671 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,720 And I believe that's where he stayed 672 00:49:28,730 --> 00:49:31,750 in the months immediately after his disappearance. 673 00:50:00,730 --> 00:50:05,780 Ian said he thought Lucky spent a lot of his time writing to Aspers. 674 00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:09,810 One can easily imagine what was going through his mind. 675 00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:15,620 "Aspers, I've been working on a statement. 676 00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:17,800 "There is evidence we can use from the custody hearing 677 00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:20,670 "that can show V's hostility towards me. 678 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,670 "Then, as there were no other witnesses, 679 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,720 "it should come down to a straight choice between her word and mine 680 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:27,730 "as to what happened on that night." 681 00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:32,760 Ian said Aspers would initially have been optimistic about the situation. 682 00:50:32,770 --> 00:50:35,750 Lucky, now is the time to stay out of sight 683 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,810 "and let some of the heat dissipate. 684 00:50:37,820 --> 00:50:41,620 "Rest assured we are working towards your return, 685 00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:44,610 "and the moment you can be reunited with the children, 686 00:50:44,620 --> 00:50:46,710 "but you must remain patient." 687 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:50,740 Well, of course, the inquest put the kibosh on that. 688 00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:55,720 Lucky couldn't come back after he'd been publicly branded a murderer. 689 00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:58,820 I haven't even been given a chance to defend myself. 690 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,650 They've only heard one side of the story. 691 00:51:08,810 --> 00:51:12,700 How can a person be found guilty without even having a proper trial? 692 00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:21,810 What's to stop me from just going back there and demanding justice? 693 00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:24,810 You stay here. 694 00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:28,620 And Dominick's Sunday Times article 695 00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:31,630 didn't quite turn out as planned, either. 696 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,750 They all said, "Why Veronica? 697 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,740 "Why did he choose her? She's such a little mouse." 698 00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:40,830 But, I was madly in love with him. 699 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:46,670 In fact, 'Love' doesn't even come close to describing it. 700 00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:49,810 But, in a strange sort of way 701 00:51:49,820 --> 00:51:53,610 he seemed to despise me for feeling like that. 702 00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:57,650 Thank you, Poppy. 703 00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:17,630 What is this?! 704 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,820 It's page after page of what a saintly nun Veronica is, 705 00:52:21,830 --> 00:52:24,620 and what a horrible bunch of pricks we are! 706 00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:26,690 And there, on the front cover, 707 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:29,750 is the mother of my children made to look like some cheap tart 708 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,840 enjoying a holiday romance with a man wanted for murder! 709 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,710 I want Elwes blackballed. He's been foolish, Jimmy, no more. 710 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,760 It is unforgiveable that he should give a newspaper private photographs, 711 00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:42,750 exposing Annabel to ridicule. 712 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,810 Our children will get to see that, 713 00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:49,660 their mother fawning over another man and a bloody fugitive to boot! 714 00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:51,790 Annabel was just play acting. You were there. 715 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,730 I want Elwes cut off. Persona non grata. 716 00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:58,710 I want him made a fucking pariah! 717 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,690 Jimmy had bailed out Aspers in the past 718 00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:04,820 when he'd faced financial ruin. 719 00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:08,690 He wouldn't dare go against his wishes. 720 00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:18,720 Morning, sleepy. 721 00:53:18,730 --> 00:53:21,810 You know, you really should think about having a tidy up. 722 00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:24,630 It's not the way to go about impressing a girl. 723 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:26,790 Hmm... 724 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,780 Oh shit. 725 00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:36,710 What is it? 726 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:40,600 It's a bill from the Clermont for 17 quid. 727 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,790 I never get a bill from the Clermont, they never charge for food and drink. 728 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,840 So, why are they now? 729 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,640 It's that bloody article. Oh God, they're furious with me. 730 00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:55,780 Ah, yes. Could you put me through to Mr Goldsmith, please? 731 00:53:55,790 --> 00:53:59,740 It's Dominick Elwes. I'm a personal friend of his. 732 00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:16,790 Oh, OK. Thank you. 733 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:23,620 Well, what did he say? 734 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,690 It was er... Jimmy's secretary. 735 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,650 He asked me not to call this number again. 736 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,750 Poor Dominick. 737 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,770 He was refused entry to clubs and restaurants, 738 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:41,720 and denied contact with his friends. 739 00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:43,830 They just abandoned him? 740 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,750 Most of them. 741 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,600 They were too scared of going against Jimmy Goldsmith. 742 00:54:52,610 --> 00:54:56,750 And there was a depressive side to Dominick's personality, 743 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,660 so this was torture for him. 744 00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:02,800 Worst of all was that he received a letter 745 00:55:02,810 --> 00:55:06,740 from Annabel's teenaged son from her first marriage. 746 00:55:06,750 --> 00:55:09,700 He was at boarding school at the time, 747 00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:14,640 and he bitterly blamed Dominick for exposing his mother to ridicule 748 00:55:14,650 --> 00:55:17,700 and causing him to be teased at school. 749 00:55:17,710 --> 00:55:19,840 It was just teenage angst, 750 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,740 but Dominick had known the boy since childhood. 751 00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:27,820 The last thing he wanted was to cause him any unhappiness. 752 00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:40,610 Dominick? 753 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,610 The news of Dominick's death 754 00:56:26,620 --> 00:56:29,690 would have had a tremendous impact on Lucky. 755 00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:32,640 They'd been friends for a long time. 756 00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:34,740 I think, stuck out there, 757 00:56:34,750 --> 00:56:37,790 he must have felt the world was falling in on him. 758 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,730 "I think the time is right to come home now. 759 00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:43,660 "Even prison is preferable to my current situation. 760 00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:46,610 "At least I might then be able to see the children again, 761 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:48,730 "even if it were only during visiting hours. 762 00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:51,770 "I am enormously grateful to you for what you've done for me, 763 00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:53,830 "but I must insist now that I return 764 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,680 "and take up the fight to clear my name." 765 00:56:57,690 --> 00:57:01,810 Ian said he thought Lucky was pushing hard to come back. 766 00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:05,800 But, Aspers knew that if he ever did return, 767 00:57:05,810 --> 00:57:09,680 Lucky would face prison and disgrace. 768 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,700 It's Pandora's box. 769 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:15,810 First The Sunday Times, and now after Dominick's death... 770 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,790 ..I've got Private Eye breathing down my neck. 771 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,720 There's an article trying to insinuate 772 00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:26,830 I was involved in helping Lucan escape justice. 773 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,780 I'm going to sue. 774 00:57:29,790 --> 00:57:32,740 They've been poking their noses in my business affairs, 775 00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:34,760 digging around for all sorts of dirt. 776 00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:36,620 Needless to say, 777 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:39,680 I haven't been receiving any more calls from Downing Street. 778 00:57:40,770 --> 00:57:44,810 I curse bloody Lucan! He's the architect of all this. 779 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:46,730 Lucky is our friend. 780 00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:49,710 Well, I shan't be unhappy if I never see him again. 781 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:56,300 Can I ask, what do you think happened to Lucky, Mr Pearson? 782 00:57:56,310 --> 00:57:59,280 Well, as I see it, there are two possibilities. 783 00:57:59,290 --> 00:58:03,150 One, he committed suicide soon after the murder, 784 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,100 or he disappeared somewhere, as you say, 785 00:58:06,110 --> 00:58:08,180 and has managed to evade capture ever since. 786 00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:11,290 Have you ever considered there might be a third possibility? 787 00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:38,150 Ian, how are you, old thing? 788 00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:47,260 Really? 789 00:58:49,170 --> 00:58:51,130 When? Now. 790 00:58:51,140 --> 00:58:53,180 I drive you home today. 791 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,140 This is pure supposition, of course, 792 00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:43,290 but Lucky would have been so excited 793 00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:47,120 to think he'd be seeing his children again. 794 01:00:25,310 --> 01:00:28,150 Aspers, could I get a signature on this 795 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,320 so I can get it in the post first thing? 796 01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:32,330 Aspers? 797 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:43,170 Don't forget, the whole plan 798 01:00:43,180 --> 01:00:46,280 to do away with Veronica had been a gamble, 799 01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:48,280 and Lucky had lost. 800 01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:55,200 I think Aspers must have felt compelled to call in the debt. 801 01:00:56,330 --> 01:00:59,290 I suppose it would decrease the surplus population 802 01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:02,160 he was always banging on about. 803 01:01:03,190 --> 01:01:06,100 Of course, I can't prove any of this. 804 01:01:08,190 --> 01:01:12,100 It all happened years ago. 805 01:01:13,330 --> 01:01:16,260 Ian told me about it all... 806 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,310 ..and he's been dead... 807 01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:23,220 ..many, many years. 808 01:01:23,230 --> 01:01:29,130 And, Aspinall isn't around, either, to defend himself. 809 01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:34,230 But, I'm convinced that's what happened. 810 01:01:40,330 --> 01:01:44,330 Not long after our last meeting, Susan Maxwell-Scott died. 811 01:01:44,340 --> 01:01:48,240 There have been many theories about what happened to Lord Lucan. 812 01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:51,140 Hers was one of the more intriguing ones, 813 01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:54,180 but that's all it could ever be, a theory. 814 01:01:54,190 --> 01:01:59,120 I'd heard about a casino Aspinall had opened after he'd sold the Clermont. 815 01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:03,210 He'd erected busts of his great gambling heroes in the foyer. 816 01:02:04,210 --> 01:02:07,250 The society gambler, Charles James Fox, 817 01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:12,240 Prussian military genius Marshall Von Blucher, 818 01:02:12,250 --> 01:02:15,120 and General Gordon, 819 01:02:15,130 --> 01:02:18,310 who'd gambled everything, and lost, at Khartoum. 820 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,340 I discovered there originally had been a fourth bust, 821 01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:24,320 long since removed. 822 01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:26,300 It was of Lord Lucan. 823 01:02:28,140 --> 01:02:30,180 I asked to see the Lucan bust. 824 01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:33,310 In particular, I wanted to see for myself the inscription... 825 01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:37,290 ..penned by Aspinall himself. 826 01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:52,260 Fate had it that neither Lucan nor Veronica 827 01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:56,130 claimed the one great prize they fought so bitterly for... 828 01:02:57,150 --> 01:02:58,290 ..the children. 829 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,270 At first, they lived with her, 830 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,270 but in 1982, custody was awarded to Veronica's sister and brother-in-law, 831 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,190 Bill and Christina Shand-Kydd. 832 01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:17,250 Veronica refused all requests to meet with me, 833 01:03:17,260 --> 01:03:21,230 but though estranged from her family and now living alone, 834 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,130 she's repeatedly stated her love and forgiveness 835 01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:29,330 for the husband who disappeared so suddenly all those years ago. 67770

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