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starfrosch.com #hot100 mines the gems
from the underground. -- Wired Germany
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Funny, shy, ever so clever,
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great musician,
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and a total twat.
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I've heard some of
the end results of what he does
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when he stays up all night.
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The harmonies stack in and,
you know, the music is great.
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He has done Tom Petty
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and he has done Paul McCartney,
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Roy Orbison, George Harrison.
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Jeff's music just has something
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That's what that was, see?
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But he is a...
a great, great artist, you know
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I'm glad you're doing this movie
because somebody should.
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He's such a great producer
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and a complete control freak,
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so he likes to, you know,
do it his way.
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He hears the finished thing
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way before it's done,
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and to have a musician
as complete as he is,
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it's a real rare, rare thing.
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He is...
I mean, he's a composer,
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but he's a recording artist, you
know, that's what he really is.
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He makes his music.
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And that's all he does,
really, all day,
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He makes music every day.
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The first band I loved
was the Nightriders, yeah,
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Mike Sheridan
and the Nightriders.
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I thought they were
just absolutely marvellous.
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They had the brown mohair suits
for a start
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which convinced me
that they were brilliant.
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So in 1966, when I saw
the column in the newspaper,
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in the Birmingham Mail,
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it said, "Keen lead guitarist
required for Nightriders,"
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I went, "What? That's me."
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Since I'd seen 'em,
I'd learnt how to play
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and I was ready to join,
you know.
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"I hope I get in this thing
'cause it's professional."
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And I'd been doing all these
horrible little menial jobs,
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you know, 'cause I didn't really
wanna go to work.
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I wanted to play my guitar.
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Hey, Lucy.
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So I've got lovely memories
of those days.
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Ah, that's better.
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Oi!
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You have certain styles
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and certain
favourite passages in music
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that have tickled you probably
since you were an infant,
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and I know that for a fact
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'cause there was a film
called The High and the Mighty
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that I saw
when I was probably about...
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I went with my mum and dad
to the cinema in Birmingham.
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I would be
about five or something,
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and the signature tune to it...
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I remember
being knocked out by it.
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Oh, what a tune that is.
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But I can understand
where my taste
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in chords and things comes from
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and it comes from way, way back
from being a tiny kid.
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Da-da!
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This is my very first guitar
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that my dad got for me for £2
from his friend
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and I've had it all these...
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I've had it for, Gordon Bennett,
43 years.
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So... Hang on. 40...
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Something like that. A lot.
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And it was kind of hard to play
when I first got it,
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but now, as you can see...
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...it plays beautifully
and easily.
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A real old banger,
and this is the guitar
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that I wrote
all my first songs on.
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And if you come in this way,
I'll show you my first studio...
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...which is right there.
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And that's called
the BNO 2000 Deluxe.
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And what you can do on that
is multi-track,
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even though it's only
a stereo tape recorder.
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You just bounce from the left to
the right and back to the left
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and keep adding instruments
as you go.
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And this is how I did... this is
how I started out, basically,
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as a songwriter and a producer.
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This taught me
how to be a producer
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and this taught me how to be
a songwriter, so not bad.
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What first got me interested
in music was my dad, really.
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He used to have
a great record collection
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but of all classical music
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and a lot of these
great writers.
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♪ And you enter sweet desire
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♪ You took me
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♪ Whoa-oh
Higher and higher, baby
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♪ It's a living thing
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♪ It's a terrible thing to lose
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♪ It's a given thing
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♪ What a terrible thing to lose
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♪ I'm takin' a dive
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♪ On the slide
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It was always
like a... a nightmare
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getting up at like 7:30
or something to go...
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It was dark and I had to go
on the bloody bus.
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Go upstairs on the bus
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and everybody's like
coughing up their guts.
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And you can't see
through the air in there
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'cause everybody smoked
in them days.
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It was vile, and then
you get off the other end
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and you've gotta spend
eight hours in this place
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where you don't really
wanna be at all.
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That's why I used to have
a guitar stashed somewhere.
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You know, and one day I'd look
when nobody's coming,
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put it behind some cupboard
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and then just pretend
there's nothing there.
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Nothing... "I don't know
anything about it."
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"Whose it that?"
"Bloody hell. I'll have it."
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It was so marvellous
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when I didn't have to go to work
that first day
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and I knew all I'd gotta do
was go and practise,
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and it was just the best fun
you could ever have,
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and get paid for it an' all.
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The great thing was that
I had a drawer full of money
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and my mum one day said,
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"Where the hell did all that
money come from in that drawer?
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She thought I'd nicked it
or something.
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I said, "I've earned it, Mum,
playing music."
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"Don't be ridiculous.
Where did you get that from?"
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She just wasn't a big fan,
I guess.
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Making their first appearance
on our show this week
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is a great new group
from Birmingham, The Idle Race.
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Well, let's have a word
with one of them.
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Roger, you've got how many
records released at the moment?
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It's not the same one in America
that you have elsewhere, is it?
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We have two, one in America,
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which is
Here We Go Round the Lemon Tree,
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and the song written by
Jeff Lynne, our lead guitarist,
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which is called
Impostors of Life's Magazine.
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Well let's give that
a whirl, now, can we?
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Yeah, sure.
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♪ How do you know what you feel
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♪ Is it real
Is it real?
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So in The Idle Race
we finally got a record deal,
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so I wrote this song called
Impostors of Life's Magazine.
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And I can't wait for this thing
to arrive in the mail,
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this record that I've made,
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and it's gonna have my name
on the label.
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I'm going, "Whoa!
I'm gonna be a songwriter."
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The thing comes
and I look at it and I go,
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"What the hell is that?"
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And it says, "Impostors
of Life's Magazine by G Lynn"
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without the E on the end,
just L-Y-N-N.
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And G, I thought,
"Who's that? Gordon?"
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You know, "I don't know
any G Lynn round here."
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So I was very, very
disappointed, very upset,
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'cause, you know,
it was really my big moment
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and it just turned to shit.
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♪ Impostors of life's magazine
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♪ Impostors of life's...
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I loved it because we played
all the pubs in Birmingham
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and it was the best
apprenticeship, if you like,
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for musicians
that you could ever have,
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because you play
in a different pub every night,
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or a club, or the town hall
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or somewhere, you know,
a bit further afield.
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It was quite... It got to be
bigger and bigger as we played.
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And I loved playing
with The Idle Race a lot.
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After four years
I decided I'd join The Move,
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with Bev Bevan and Roy Wood.
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We stayed as The Move
for a couple of years
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while we made this album
called Electric Light Orchestra
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which was
what we decided to call it
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when me and Roy used to hang out
at clubs in Birmingham
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and discussed
this group with strings.
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♪ Did you see your friend
crying from his eyes today...
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10538 was the first one I'd eve
written that got in the top ten
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so that was a big start.
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It was odd because I wasn't
really aware too much of ELO,
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but when I went to the concert,
I realised I knew every song.
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It was extraordinary.
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So I sort of did know,
you know, from the radio.
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I just didn't put 'em
all together and go Jeff, ELO.
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I think it's always a big
mistake he left The Idle Race.
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I think that's
a much better title for a group.
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Roy left
after about three months
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and he never told us
he was leaving.
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He just disappeared and had
this other group called Wizzard
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You know,
it was a shame at the time,
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but also it proved to be
a big opportunity for me
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because I was now the sole
songwriter and the producer.
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I'd been doing sessions
for The Move and things
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before Jeff joined.
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Then he joined The Move
as well and...
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And then they formed ELO
and asked me to join,
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and I said yes and...
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I think they wanted somebody
who could play a bit of piano,
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a bit of guitar, a bit of bass
and a bit of singing.
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Just to help out
the various other
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multi-instrumentalists
in the group,
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and that's what I did.
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I invited Richard over
to play with me on this film
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because he's a great
piano player,
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and he's also
a great guitar player,
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but the reason
I wanted him there
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was 'cause he was there
at the very start.
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That's it.
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Merci beaucoup.
See you all next week.
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♪ Did you hear what he said?
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♪ He said they sold me
down the river
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♪ They thought I...
thought I was a fool...
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♪ Said the rain would fall
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♪ What did they know?
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♪ Then I saw your face
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♪ Heard the song
that you were singing
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♪ Though I thought
I knew the words
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♪ The tune was quite absurd
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♪ And out of key
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♪ Doo dah dah Dee
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♪ I'm steppin' out...
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Usually when I start to write
a song, a new one, you know,
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you'll be either messing round
on the piano or the guitar
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and the first thing that comes
is really like
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two or three chords in sequence
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You go,
"Mm, that's interesting."
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And you try and work
on those two or three chords
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and sort of stretch it out
to a fourth and a fifth,
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then you've got a tune
going through it.
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And your little tune's wandering
in it and you're going,
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"Mm, this is good."
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And some songs,
you can finish 'em in 15 minutes
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and some can take three months.
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You never know
how a song is gonna develop.
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♪ I'm steppin' out
I'm steppin' out
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♪ I'm steppin' out
I'm steppin' out
229
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♪ I'm steppin' out
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♪ Steppin' out
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♪ Steppin' out
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That's it. I had it there.
233
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When the Heartbreakers
first kicked up,
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I had bought one of those... the
first ghetto blasters, you know.
235
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It was a Sony,
made out of metal,
236
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this really industrial
ghetto blaster.
237
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And you couldn't buy many...
238
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Cassettes were just
becoming a thing
239
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and there weren't many for sale,
240
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but they had an ELO one
for sale and I bought that
241
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and I carried it
around with me on tour.
242
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And I played it all the time
and I really liked it
243
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and I thought, you know, just
what a record maker this guy is.
244
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They say everyone was borrowing
245
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from the people they admired.
246
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And so, you know,
when I heard ELO,
247
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it was very what we'd been doing
on Sergeant Pepper,
248
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this sort of...
249
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Cellos, you know, and...
250
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You know, very much
what we'd been into,
251
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very sort of
mathematical strings.
252
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And so I think
the first thing was,
253
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"Ooh, that's...
I know where he got that from."
254
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But then you can't resist it.
It's just so good.
255
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You go, "Oh, God,
it's a bloody good song."
256
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"Wish we'd done that one."
You know.
257
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"God, he's nailed those strings.
258
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"He's singing it great.
That guitar's good."
259
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♪ I'll tell you once more
before I get off the floor
260
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♪ Don't bring me down
261
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♪ Don't bring me down
262
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♪ Grroosss
263
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♪ Don't bring me down
264
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♪ Grroosss
265
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I actually saw ELO play
266
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with the full spaceship
and everything.
267
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That was the first time
I saw Jeff or met Jeff.
268
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He was coming out of a big
spaceship with lots of robots
269
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and then we went to his house.
270
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I ended up throwing a dart
into his dart board
271
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and it bounced off
and went in my arm.
272
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So I remember that day.
273
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♪ Don't bring me down
274
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♪ No, no, no, no, no
275
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♪ Whoo-oo-oo
276
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♪ I'll tell you once more
before I get off the floor
277
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♪ Don't bring me down
278
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You know, if you listen
to something like Mr Blue Sky...
279
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you know, I hear it a lot
in ads now and... or in movies,
280
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and I think it was in a movie
I watched recently,
281
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and it was just...
it's just amazing, you know.
282
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And it's... it's not derivative.
283
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It's... It's not...
284
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It's not really coming
from anybody but Jeff.
285
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Nobody could do it
quite like that.
286
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And I think he's...
287
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He's not noticed enough
for what he does, really.
288
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I mean, all those records
are just incredible.
289
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You know, I mean, I'm a sucker
for sort of the hits,
290
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so Mr Blue Sky
is a pretty special song.
291
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It's probably the one
that everyone would choose,
292
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so it's a bit boring
to choose it.
293
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But it is great.
I mean, it just works.
294
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And if you're in the car
and it's a nice day,
295
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it really works.
296
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You know, I re-recorded
all of my old songs.
297
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When I heard them,
either on the radio
298
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or just happened to play them,
299
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they just didn't have
the sound I remembered
300
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or thought I'd got on them
in the day I did 'em.
301
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Some of 'em are like
35, 36 years old, 37.
302
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So they are quite old, you know
303
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and they were made
on 16 track or 8 track.
304
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It was just nice to have
all this facility of Pro Tools
305
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and just re-do 'em all
in my own time and just...
306
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In the old days I'd have to
do them in like six weeks,
307
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write it, record it,
get in there,
308
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finish it
and be on tour playing them.
309
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But now
I've got time to get 'em
310
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exactly as I really want them.
311
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And luckily
I've managed to do it, I hope.
312
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Yeah, yeah, OK, OK.
313
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OK, that was good. Cut 'em both.
314
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- Yeah.
- Good, OK.
315
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- Two good ones.
- Yeah.
316
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So, anyway,
that's that one done.
317
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♪ Well, I heard the crowd
singin' out of tune
318
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♪ As they sat and sang
Auld Lang Syne
319
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♪ By the light of the moon
320
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♪ I heard the preachers
bangin' on the drums
321
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♪ And I heard the police
playin' with their guns
322
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♪ But I...
323
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♪ I...
324
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♪ Never heard nothin' like you
325
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Just about
every ELO single killed me.
326
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The first time I noticed him was
when The Move cut Do Ya...
327
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I thought that was just this
incredible thing, and it was,
328
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and then he later did it
with ELO
329
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and it was a whole new look at
that song that was really good.
330
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I knew I could make 'em better
331
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because I had
all these years of experience,
332
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like working
with George and Paul
333
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and Roy Orbison and Tom Petty
and all these fantastic people.
334
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I've learned so much
working with them, you know.
335
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I mean, hopefully they learned
a bit working with me too.
336
00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:06,348
♪ Well, I think you know
what I'm trying to say, woman
337
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♪ That is I'd like to save you
for a rainy day, yeah
338
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♪ I've seen
enough of the world to know
339
00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:17,485
♪ That I gotta get it all
to get it all to grow
340
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,696
♪ Do ya, do ya want my love?
341
00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:21,781
♪ Come on now
342
00:21:21,822 --> 00:21:24,450
♪ Do ya, do ya want my face?
343
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♪ I need it
344
00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:28,120
♪ Do ya, do ya want my mind?
345
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♪ All right, yeah!
346
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,999
♪ Do ya, do ya want my love?
347
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♪ Oh, look out!
348
00:21:39,423 --> 00:21:42,384
♪ Do ya, do ya want my love?
349
00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:46,055
♪ Do ya, do ya want my love?
350
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♪ Oh, oh!
351
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♪ Only the lonely
352
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♪ Only the lonely...
353
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Only The Lonely,
I suppose,
354
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is the first one of those thing
when I was real young
355
00:22:21,966 --> 00:22:23,384
that I heard and thought,
356
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:26,971
"My God, how does that happen?
What is that? How does it work?
357
00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:28,722
"How do all these people
know what they're doing?"
358
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Like it seems like hundreds
in the studio.
359
00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:32,893
Obviously it doesn't sound
that big now,
360
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but it still sounds pretty big,
I tell you.
361
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♪ There goes my baby
362
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♪ And there goes my heart
363
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♪ And they're gone forever
364
00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:50,870
♪ So far apart
365
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♪ But only the lonely...
366
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It sounds fantastic,
367
00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:56,834
and then there's all these
other people
368
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and strings
and backing vocalists
369
00:23:00,838 --> 00:23:02,673
and guitar players, drummer.
370
00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:07,011
And they're all doing it once,
in one go,
371
00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:11,599
and that to me is like...
I never wanna have to do that.
372
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,934
I don't wanna have to set
that up, that session.
373
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That's not my scene.
374
00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:18,355
Mine is the opposite to that,
I like to do it one at a time,
375
00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:21,734
but still come out
with the same result at the end
376
00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:25,613
We had a telephone call,
like from management...
377
00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:31,911
and that Jeff Lynne was trying
to reach Roy Orbison.
378
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:37,416
And so we allowed the number
to be given to Jeff.
379
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And so maybe three hours later
the telephone rang
380
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and I said, "Hello."
381
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And nobody said anything.
382
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:50,638
I said, "Hello?" and a click.
383
00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:52,890
Then somebody called again.
384
00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,559
And I knew
it was Jeff intuitively.
385
00:23:55,643 --> 00:23:59,813
And then somebody called again.
And I said, "Hello?"
386
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,691
And there was a moment of
silence and then somebody said,
387
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:06,654
"It's Jeff Lynne.
Could I talk to Roy Orbison?"
388
00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:08,530
And I said,
"Yes, he's waiting for you."
389
00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:12,493
♪ California blue
390
00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:17,998
Thank you
and come back next week.
391
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,667
Thank you very much,
ladies and gentlemen,
392
00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:22,419
and that was my latest song.
393
00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,839
Wonderful as it might be.
394
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:26,840
Ah
395
00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:31,595
Roy Orbison
was just astonishing
396
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:35,808
because he could just open
his... not even open his mouth.
397
00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:38,894
You'd stand there by the mic an
you'd say, "Has he started yet?
398
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:41,355
And it'd just
come out gradually.
399
00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:42,856
He was just pretending
to sing it.
400
00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:44,775
OK. You don't want me to go...
401
00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:47,069
♪ Still missing you
402
00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,863
♪ California blue
403
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:56,954
No, it's... it's really
what you hear, you know?
404
00:24:57,037 --> 00:25:00,165
And then... And then
he'd go, "OK, let's do a take."
405
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:02,668
He'd say, "OK, I think
I've got it. Let's try it."
406
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:05,921
And you'd... you'd...
you'd start and you go, blam!
407
00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:10,384
All the needles would bend
and it'd be like so loud.
408
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,678
It was like 100 times louder
than when he was practising it,
409
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,390
you know, so it always used
to take you by big surprise.
410
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:26,400
♪ California blue
411
00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:31,822
And it was Jeff,
really, that got him back
412
00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:35,868
and made him comfortable
with recording again
413
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:40,748
and really completely
revitalised Roy's career.
414
00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:44,877
We went to the studio
here in Los Angeles. He called.
415
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:50,716
And it was Roy
and Roy Junior and myself,
416
00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:54,762
and we went
to listen to the songs.
417
00:25:54,845 --> 00:25:58,140
And the first one
that Jeff played for Roy
418
00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:00,934
was A Love So Beautiful.
419
00:26:01,018 --> 00:26:03,604
♪ Too young to understand
420
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,398
♪ To ever know
421
00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:11,737
♪ That lovers drift apart
422
00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:16,033
♪ And that's the way love goes
423
00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:23,624
♪ A love so beautiful
424
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:26,543
♪ A love...
425
00:26:26,627 --> 00:26:32,508
And it was so amazing for Jeff
to play the song for Roy.
426
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:35,010
And, you know,
Roy, Kelton and I,
427
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:39,098
we were just, you know,
in the background,
428
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:43,560
and Roy listening to what Jeff
had done to the song,
429
00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:48,107
and he just started crying,
and we had never seen that.
430
00:26:48,357 --> 00:26:50,442
I mean, I had been married
to Roy for 20 years,
431
00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:53,028
and, you know, I mean...
432
00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:56,406
Roy Junior had been
in many studios with him
433
00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:58,492
and to see that emotion in Roy.
434
00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:01,787
And then Jeff looking
and Jeff not knowing, I mean,
435
00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:05,082
what to do with Roy
just sitting there
436
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:08,001
and having tears
roll down his face.
437
00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,920
Then the good part came.
438
00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,507
Thank God
you got it as up tempo.
439
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:17,928
♪ Anything you want, you got it
440
00:27:18,679 --> 00:27:22,057
♪ Anything you need, you got it
441
00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:26,436
♪ Anything at all, you got it
442
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,857
♪ Baby
443
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:37,531
And we got out of the tears.
444
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:41,034
But it was just so incredible
to see, you know.
445
00:27:41,118 --> 00:27:44,037
Roy always liked finding...
446
00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:46,748
He probably listened
to something
447
00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:48,625
that just totally surprised him,
448
00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:51,753
that he didn't think Jeff could
add to the song, you know?
449
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:59,928
George wanted
a producer for an album
450
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:04,057
and he hadn't recorded an album
for like eight, nine years.
451
00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,434
He wanted someone to help him
452
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:09,897
and he had just really started
listening to Jeff's music.
453
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,944
I think Telephone Line was on,
although that's an obvious one,
454
00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:17,446
but it is a very catchy song.
455
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,657
And that was on the jukebox for
a long time before we met Jeff.
456
00:28:20,741 --> 00:28:22,951
So we kind of felt we knew him
when we did meet him.
457
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,036
♪ Hello
458
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,915
♪ How are you?
459
00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,376
♪ Have you been all right
460
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:37,007
♪ Through all those lonely,
lonely, lonely, lonely nights?
461
00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:42,054
And I think everybody's...
had an experience
462
00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:44,598
where, you know,
they've had a bad telephone call
463
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:46,558
with somebody
they care about, and the...
464
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:51,063
and the way it gets to you,
and I think he captured that.
465
00:28:54,191 --> 00:28:55,192
♪ Hey
466
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:58,862
♪ How you feelin'?
467
00:29:00,447 --> 00:29:02,282
♪ Are you still the same?
468
00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:08,956
♪ Don't you realise the things
we did, we did are for real?
469
00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,415
♪ Not a dream
470
00:29:11,959 --> 00:29:13,961
♪ I just can't believe
471
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:20,342
♪ They've all faded out of view
472
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:21,301
♪ Whoa
473
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:26,640
Dave Edmunds told me
that George was looking for me,
474
00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:28,934
George Harrison,
and would like to work with me
475
00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,644
on his new album.
476
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,438
You know, once he decided
to do an album
477
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:38,318
and he decided he'd do it with
somebody whose music he liked,
478
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,988
and he got to know Jeff,
that whole process happened.
479
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:43,615
George wanted to make sure
480
00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:45,284
we were good pals
before we started, so...
481
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,704
we went to Australia
to watch the Grand Prix.
482
00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:50,956
Hanging out
with George Harrison, you know,
483
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,959
and I'm going,
"This is like the best thing."
484
00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:56,003
And, of course, when you're with
George, you can get in anywhere.
485
00:29:57,004 --> 00:29:59,214
And anything you want.
"What would you like?"
486
00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:01,591
"Can we see the cars, like,
and that?"
487
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,968
"Yeah, you can have
a sit in 'em."
488
00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:05,721
You know, in the racing cars
in the Formula 1.
489
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:08,098
You're going,
"Shit, this is brilliant."
490
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,226
We'd go there in a helicopter,
of course. You don't mess about.
491
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:16,064
They worked all day
and came out, took a break,
492
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,691
played a bit of cricket
on the lawn,
493
00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:19,860
went back in,
you know, had dinner,
494
00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:22,195
then maybe would go in
and hang out and listen
495
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,114
and then sort of the fun began.
496
00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,741
But they were very,
you know, serious
497
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,367
about when they were working
498
00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:30,412
but unhinged when they weren't,
you know.
499
00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:33,623
♪ I got my mind set on you
500
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,877
♪ Set on you
501
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,047
♪ I got my mind set on you
502
00:30:41,298 --> 00:30:43,050
♪ Set on you
503
00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:45,427
♪ But it's gonna take money
504
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,931
♪ A whole lot of spending money
505
00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:53,268
It sounds great to this day
and it kind of defined
506
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:56,480
that next sort of period
of my dad and Jeff
507
00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:58,273
and the sound they were getting.
508
00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:01,860
You know, Jeff and George
were similar characters
509
00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:05,989
in their humour
and their northern upbringing.
510
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,785
Not too far apart in age.
Maybe they were like...
511
00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:12,037
George might have been
like the older brother.
512
00:31:12,496 --> 00:31:17,250
We were great pals
for like about 16, 17 years.
513
00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:19,419
It was a marvellous time
514
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,422
just to be working with him
then in the studio.
515
00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:26,802
And, I mean, I actually
literally kept pinching myself.
516
00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:32,224
They were very... Just you see
two people that just click.
517
00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:33,767
They just...
518
00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:39,523
They came from a...
a point of... reference
519
00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:44,528
that was just too close for them
not to... not to hit it off.
520
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:48,156
And they...
they loved each other's music.
521
00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,826
It was Full Moon Fever time
as well, wasn't it?
522
00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:54,663
That was when Jeff
had just done Tom's record.
523
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:57,874
And I remember that record
playing continuously.
524
00:31:58,166 --> 00:31:59,709
And I still...
I love that record.
525
00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:01,169
That's one of
my favourite records.
526
00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:05,465
Yeah, we should do
some of them as well.
527
00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:06,800
- Really?
- Yeah, maybe.
528
00:32:06,883 --> 00:32:08,927
- Just try like a moving one.
529
00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:11,054
- Bluesy, man.
- Yeah.
530
00:32:11,138 --> 00:32:14,224
At the time, I was
renting a house in Beverly Hills
531
00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:21,440
and I was driving down the road
on an errand,
532
00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:25,193
and I pulled up at the light
and looked over
533
00:32:25,318 --> 00:32:26,570
and there was Jeff.
534
00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:29,573
Somebody kept
tooting the horn at me
535
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,325
and I looked and it was Tom,
Tom Petty.
536
00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:33,702
And I'd only met him
once before
537
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,122
and that was at a concert
with Bob Dylan.
538
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:38,331
He was backing Bob Dylan.
539
00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:41,668
His group, the Heartbreakers,
were backing Bob.
540
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:44,004
And he stopped me.
541
00:32:44,087 --> 00:32:47,090
I pulled over, I got out
and we had a chat.
542
00:32:47,174 --> 00:32:49,426
And he said... "Wow," he said.
543
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,470
"We're just playing
George Harrison's new album
544
00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:53,263
and it sounds fantastic."
545
00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:58,310
"Do you fancy writing some songs
together and see what happens?"
546
00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,519
I said, "Sure, I'd love to."
547
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,106
We played guitars
quite a bit, hanging around,
548
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:05,442
and we wrote a couple of songs
together, you know.
549
00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,903
I had one
and he helped me finish it off.
550
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:14,910
And the next song we wrote
was Free Fallin',
551
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,912
and so we had the two songs.
552
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:18,663
It was the Christmas holiday,
553
00:33:18,747 --> 00:33:20,290
so there weren't
many people around,
554
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:24,211
so we called Mike Campbell,
'cause he had a studio,
555
00:33:24,294 --> 00:33:28,381
and we went over there
and just made those records.
556
00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:30,759
♪ She's a good girl
557
00:33:31,635 --> 00:33:34,221
♪ Loves her mama
558
00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:36,806
♪ Loves Jesus
559
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,558
♪ And America too
560
00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:42,270
And he was kind of leaning over
the piano, as I remember it,
561
00:33:42,312 --> 00:33:45,190
and he said, "Free fallin',"
you know,
562
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:49,319
and I sang it, but I could only
get half the word in.
563
00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:50,820
♪ Free
564
00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,573
And then I put in...
♪ Free fallin'
565
00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,242
And he's like, "That's it!"
566
00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:00,497
♪ Now I'm free
567
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:05,544
♪ Free fallin'
568
00:34:09,089 --> 00:34:10,215
♪ Oh!
569
00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:12,759
♪ Free fallin'
570
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:14,511
♪ Free fallin'
571
00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:17,430
♪ I'm free...
572
00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,725
And so we started work
on a couple of songs.
573
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,770
We did about two or three
to start with and it was...
574
00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:26,523
We got on really good as well,
no problem.
575
00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:28,775
We made 'em
in Mike Campbell's garage.
576
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:30,860
And that was all thanks
to George as well, really.
577
00:34:33,697 --> 00:34:37,367
♪ Back then, long time ago
when grass was green
578
00:34:38,535 --> 00:34:42,330
♪ Woke up in a daze...
579
00:34:42,372 --> 00:34:45,834
So when I was working
with George on Cloud Nine,
580
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,504
we used to hang out every night
after the sessions,
581
00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:51,381
listen back to what we'd done
in the daytime,
582
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:53,383
and George had this idea that..
583
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:57,429
He said to me, "You know what,
me and you should have a group."
584
00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:02,392
And, I said, "Wow, that's a good
idea. What a smashing thing."
585
00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:04,436
And I said,
"Who would we have in it?"
586
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,063
And he said,
"Well, how about Bob Dylan?"
587
00:35:07,147 --> 00:35:08,732
I said,
"Yeah, that's a good idea."
588
00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:11,735
And then I said,
"How about Roy Orbison?"
589
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:13,528
- He said, "That's a good idea."
590
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,196
Oh, bollocks.
591
00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:21,745
Sorry, loves. I've gotta
turn this off somehow.
592
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,669
So, anyway, this was like...
593
00:35:29,753 --> 00:35:33,340
This went on for a few...
I suppose, a couple of weeks.
594
00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:34,382
And...
595
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,219
everybody agreed,
596
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:40,722
and then... and I thought,
"Wow, what about Tom?"
597
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:44,184
The Traveling Wilburys
came along
598
00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:47,520
and so we spent
even more time together.
599
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:53,735
And I think in the Traveling
Wilburys, he's often overlooked.
600
00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:58,406
His contribution was so huge,
you know, it was...
601
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:01,618
There couldn't have been a
Traveling Wilburys without Jeff.
602
00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:03,370
My dad had just
had dinner with Roy,
603
00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,538
so it all just kind of
worked out.
604
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,291
Bob had the studio,
Tom had my dad's guitars,
605
00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:11,544
Jeff was doing Tom's record,
so they all just got together.
606
00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:22,889
♪ Been beat up
and battered around
607
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:27,435
♪ Been sent up
and I've been shot down
608
00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:31,815
♪ You're the best thing
that I've ever found
609
00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,818
♪ Handle me with care
610
00:36:36,403 --> 00:36:37,696
So that's how
it happened,
611
00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,197
and we just got together
one day
612
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,242
and started jamming
round this table.
613
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:43,827
And I remember
Bob was a bit late
614
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,704
and we were all going,
"Ooh, Bob's late."
615
00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:49,290
Anyway, the first one, George
had half of it written already,
616
00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:50,834
and it was called
Handle With Care,
617
00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:52,043
and that was the first single.
618
00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:55,839
Really, the Wilburys
came together as sort of...
619
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,425
again, just something
that happened,
620
00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:00,677
you couldn't make it happen,
they just came together.
621
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,765
But they had a lot of fun
and they made some great music.
622
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,519
And I think for George
623
00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:13,648
it was one of
the most enjoyable times
624
00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:16,401
I'd ever seen him have,
you know, like in 30 years.
625
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:19,404
He just, he really enjoyed...
And I guess they all did.
626
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,866
So I take it...
ls this the front here?
627
00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:25,034
Or is this the front, that bit?
628
00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:26,870
Is it that bit there
or is it...?
629
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:29,581
- It's kind of a broad space.
- Yeah.
630
00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:33,042
It's right here.
631
00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:35,587
Bill, can we just give you
a level of what we're doing
632
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:36,880
and see if we get
a good balance?
633
00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:40,717
There's a Roy Orbison number
on the first album
634
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,596
called... Not Alone Any More.
635
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:49,976
♪ It hurt like never before
636
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:56,900
♪ You're not alone any more
637
00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:01,905
And that was really
Jeff and Roy's song.
638
00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:05,450
I mean,
we all contributed a little bit,
639
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:08,953
but in the end, you know,
they had the handle on that one
640
00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:12,290
And so really the rest of us
kind of backed off
641
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:13,625
and let them go.
642
00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:17,921
And they... they wrote
this song. We recorded it.
643
00:38:18,004 --> 00:38:21,925
No one was really happy with it
you know?
644
00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:26,930
I think we all thought,
"Better write another song,
645
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:29,933
'cause this one's not...
not doing it."
646
00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:32,310
Well, that is not good enough
for Jeff Lynne.
647
00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:37,941
He... He came in the next day,
stripped the song.
648
00:38:38,942 --> 00:38:42,946
He had the lead vocal
and the drums.
649
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,449
And he completely re-wrote
the song...
650
00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:51,037
around this lead vocal
that was there...
651
00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,832
and wrote this incredible song,
you know.
652
00:38:53,915 --> 00:38:57,460
And now it's one of
my favourite ones on the album.
653
00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,380
And there's nobody
that could do that.
654
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:02,632
♪ Well, it's all right
655
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,968
♪ As long as
you've got somewhere to lay
656
00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:08,263
♪ Well, it's all right
657
00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:11,307
♪ Every day is just one day
658
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,563
The first album
was doing fantastically well.
659
00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:19,774
It was in the top five
and just an amazing reaction.
660
00:39:19,816 --> 00:39:21,651
People were really loving it.
661
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:24,946
And right then Roy died.
Very sad.
662
00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:26,406
The End of the Line,
663
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:29,909
we did like a tribute to Roy
by doing the video
664
00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:33,371
with just a rocking chair
with his guitar in it.
665
00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:37,333
That was our symbol for Roy,
you know, and our tribute.
666
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:39,961
And it's pretty poignant,
really.
667
00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:42,839
And Roy's not with us any more,
which is a tragedy.
668
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,888
Bands get together
and there's a magic there.
669
00:39:49,971 --> 00:39:55,184
And it lasts
as long as it lasts.
670
00:39:56,102 --> 00:39:59,063
But when it's a true band,
671
00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:03,860
and it's the band's time,
672
00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,991
there's a... a... a magic to it.
673
00:40:11,993 --> 00:40:15,079
And the Wilburys are truly
674
00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:19,042
one of those
special chemistries,
675
00:40:19,292 --> 00:40:20,627
making really special music.
676
00:40:21,044 --> 00:40:22,545
♪ Even if you're old and Grey
677
00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,590
♪ Well, it's all right
678
00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,676
♪ You still got something to say
679
00:40:31,846 --> 00:40:35,058
I think we both loved
a lot of the same music.
680
00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:40,772
We... We discovered that we had
both produced Del Shannon.
681
00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:43,733
♪ Walk away
Every time, right?
682
00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:46,527
♪ Walk away
If you think it's a good idea.
683
00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:47,695
Yeah, let's try that.
684
00:40:47,737 --> 00:40:49,447
You know what also
might be good?
685
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:51,741
- What?
- Hand claps and a bongo.
686
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,789
Hand claps and a bongo? Shit,
I came to the right session.
687
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,916
My specialty, man.
688
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,794
I think Jeff's...
689
00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,797
If you wanna define
his three biggest influences,
690
00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:09,676
I think they'd be Del Shannon,
691
00:41:09,926 --> 00:41:12,345
Roy Orbison and the Beatles.
692
00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:14,722
And maybe in that order.
693
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:18,393
♪ The one who understands
694
00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:21,521
♪ What I've gotta do
695
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,565
♪ I've gotta find
a place to hide
696
00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:27,193
♪ With my baby by my side
697
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,654
Who would have thought
one day that Del Shannon
698
00:41:29,737 --> 00:41:31,906
would actually come to my house
in Shard End
699
00:41:31,948 --> 00:41:35,576
and we'd do a demo together
on my tape recorder?
700
00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:40,498
It was fantastic, really.
I was so thrilled to know Del.
701
00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:43,501
♪ We've gotta keep
searching, searching
702
00:41:43,543 --> 00:41:44,585
♪ Find a place to hide
703
00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:46,421
♪ Searching, searching
704
00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:51,342
I just thought he was like
amazingly wacky and zany,
705
00:41:51,426 --> 00:41:52,552
you know what I mean?
706
00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:57,181
It turns out he was always a
little bit pissed all the time.
707
00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:00,601
But I loved him so much.
He was such a sweetheart.
708
00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:09,861
I started to take notice
of the Beatles in '63.
709
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:12,447
It was all a bit wishy-washy
before that.
710
00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,616
The '60s
really did change things
711
00:42:15,658 --> 00:42:17,827
and it was
the Beatle revolution.
712
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:21,664
The Beatles did come along
and they represented something
713
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:24,083
that just set fire
to all these fumes
714
00:42:24,167 --> 00:42:26,377
that were waiting
to be set fire to.
715
00:42:28,004 --> 00:42:29,797
Well, he wasn't there
by accident.
716
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,717
It's a pretty good compliment
717
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,845
that the Beatles
got back together
718
00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:38,347
and hired you
to be the producer.
719
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:39,640
That's, you know...
720
00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:41,684
I'm sure they could have
got anyone they wanted.
721
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:45,730
I think it was George who said,
"No, we need a producer."
722
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,691
It could be dangerous
just to all go in the studio.
723
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:50,318
It could get nasty.
724
00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:53,946
'Cause you've got egos,
you know, flying around,
725
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,323
surprisingly-
726
00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:59,827
So, yeah, Jeff's name came up
and it was like,
727
00:42:59,869 --> 00:43:01,746
"Yeah, oh, that's good, yeah."
728
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:04,040
You know,
we really got to know Jeff.
729
00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:06,834
I mean, I got to know him
hanging out with him and George,
730
00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:10,713
but then we really got
to know him on Free as a Bird
731
00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:13,257
and he was a lifesaver on that.
732
00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:15,676
And, you know,
he put that cassette together
733
00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:17,887
and that was all playing,
and it was interesting,
734
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:21,349
because the three of us
felt comfortable with him.
735
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,768
He'd worked with George,
736
00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:27,105
and so George said, you know,
"I think Jeff would be great."
737
00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:30,149
And so it was like,
we decided yeah.
738
00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:32,735
We loved his work anyway,
and it was a good idea
739
00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,113
for who to produce
the Free as a Bird thing,
740
00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:38,783
'cause it was a kind of
difficult record to make
741
00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:39,992
for a producer.
742
00:43:40,076 --> 00:43:41,744
It was really quite scary,
743
00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:43,204
because I didn't know Paul
very well at all.
744
00:43:43,246 --> 00:43:45,498
I'd only met him
a couple of times before that.
745
00:43:46,374 --> 00:43:50,878
And... he was
a bit worried about me
746
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,130
'cause I was George's pal
747
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,714
and he wondered
if it was gonna be
748
00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:55,258
a little bit one-sided,
you know,
749
00:43:55,341 --> 00:43:57,969
and not...
not in the spirit of things.
750
00:43:58,052 --> 00:43:59,053
But he needn't have worried
751
00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:01,430
'cause I was totally
into the spirit of things.
752
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,976
♪ Just like little girls
and boys
753
00:44:07,186 --> 00:44:10,606
♪ Playing with their little toys
754
00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:15,278
♪ Seems like
all we really were doing
755
00:44:17,071 --> 00:44:20,575
♪ Was waiting for love
756
00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:22,201
I don't think those records,
757
00:44:22,451 --> 00:44:24,829
the Free as a Bird record
and Real Love,
758
00:44:26,289 --> 00:44:28,457
I think you really needed him...
759
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,544
they would have really
needed him to pull that off,
760
00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:36,340
because it was such a major job,
you know,
761
00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:39,969
to take that really shaky
cassette recording
762
00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:41,179
they had of John.
763
00:44:41,262 --> 00:44:43,222
And it was a crackly old thing,
you know.
764
00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:45,975
It was a cassette,
and you don't use that.
765
00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:47,852
You normally
make your demos on cassettes
766
00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:50,813
and then make a proper record
767
00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:53,482
and get rid of all the crackling
and the hiss and everything.
768
00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:58,446
But Jeff was very good
in that respect too,
769
00:44:58,487 --> 00:45:03,534
'cause he took the cassette tape
and he put it in time.
770
00:45:17,006 --> 00:45:21,052
♪ Free
771
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:23,971
♪ As a bird
772
00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:27,183
He didn't interfere with
anything but the vocal phrases,
773
00:45:27,266 --> 00:45:30,019
'cause it's a demo,
nobody cares about time,
774
00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:31,270
and if we were gonna work...
775
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:33,522
And Jeff is very precise.
776
00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:35,441
That's one of the things
I love about him.
777
00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:38,778
You know, his stuff just...
it just rolls out
778
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:40,488
and there's not a thing wrong.
779
00:45:40,529 --> 00:45:42,907
You know,
you listen to it, so...
780
00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,201
and then you stop listening
to it so precisely
781
00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:47,912
and it just rolls over you.
782
00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:49,372
It's like, "Ooh, I love this!"
783
00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:59,423
♪ Free
784
00:46:01,509 --> 00:46:04,303
♪ As a bird
785
00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:08,140
Jeff was very good
because he's...
786
00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:10,810
he's very diplomatic
787
00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:13,896
and, you know,
he lets you do your thing,
788
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:15,481
and he's just
sort of the controller.
789
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:17,108
He just makes sure
it's all right.
790
00:46:17,817 --> 00:46:20,695
The first afternoon, really,
was just banter, you know.
791
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:21,779
It was all the three of them.
792
00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:23,948
They hadn't been
in the same room for years.
793
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:26,200
And so I'm just sitting there
with them,
794
00:46:26,284 --> 00:46:28,452
like in the club with them,
you know.
795
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,206
And it's just like,
"Wow, I'm in the Beatles club."
796
00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:34,959
And it's like...
and it's like a club meeting
797
00:46:35,042 --> 00:46:36,544
and having a reminisce.
798
00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:38,796
It was just superb.
It was like...
799
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:43,175
Hamburg stories, you know,
all the Liverpool stories.
800
00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:45,177
It was just magnificent.
801
00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:48,097
And I was just willing
just to sit there forever
802
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,182
and not ever do a bit of work
803
00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:52,226
and just listen
to these stories.
804
00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:54,937
They were the stories
you sort of almost knew,
805
00:46:55,021 --> 00:46:57,648
but these are the real,
you know, the real kind of...
806
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:02,945
the real thing, the real,
actual, as it really happened.
807
00:47:03,237 --> 00:47:05,239
So when we came in to do it,
808
00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:09,285
we had John in the ears,
you know,
809
00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,912
and we just
played along with it.
810
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:17,168
I'm not sure how we started it.
Jeff will remember better.
811
00:47:17,668 --> 00:47:19,879
I know I played bass.
812
00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:21,756
It was so hard to do.
813
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,675
I mean, because,
laying that voice in there,
814
00:47:24,717 --> 00:47:26,177
which has got a piano
glued to it,
815
00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:28,679
was really difficult, you know.
816
00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:31,932
It was almost...
virtually impossible.
817
00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:33,726
But we got it done somehow.
818
00:47:35,019 --> 00:47:37,146
And Paul really helped on that
because he sort of
819
00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:39,357
ghosted John's voice
a little bit underneath.
820
00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:44,153
And it was... It came out
really good in the end.
821
00:47:44,195 --> 00:47:46,697
For what it started out as,
it was amazing,
822
00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:49,367
so I'm pretty chuffed with it.
823
00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:54,538
But I think, you know, Jeff was
in a perfect position, really,
824
00:47:54,622 --> 00:47:58,376
to produce those...
Free as a Bird and Real Love.
825
00:47:59,085 --> 00:48:02,713
You know, he was just... again,
had the right sensibilities.
826
00:48:02,755 --> 00:48:06,175
He wasn't gonna take it
somewhere completely different.
827
00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:09,011
And, you know,
he had the respect
828
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,931
for what they wanted to do,
obviously.
829
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,185
And he's told me about,
you know, how hard it was.
830
00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,521
He did a lot of work there
and I'm sure...
831
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,774
over to Paul McCartney
to explain that.
832
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:24,568
That was it,
we had the cassette of John
833
00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:28,155
and we just gradually
built it up.
834
00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:32,243
Did this, did that,
put a bit of bass on, guitar.
835
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,079
George ended up
putting the slide on,
836
00:48:35,162 --> 00:48:38,249
which was like
the final icing on the cake.
837
00:48:38,958 --> 00:48:40,292
We sang.
838
00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:44,213
But I think for all of us,
the most exciting thing was,
839
00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:47,341
even though John
was no longer on this planet,
840
00:48:47,383 --> 00:48:50,136
here he was
in the studio with us.
841
00:48:50,219 --> 00:48:51,470
And it was very special,
you know,
842
00:48:51,554 --> 00:48:54,306
it was all of us like, "Wow!"
843
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:57,601
I mean, very... you know,
big, big moment.
844
00:48:58,227 --> 00:49:01,522
I think my dad brought Jeff in
and I think that was a big...
845
00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:03,524
Everyone was like,
"Whoa, what's going on here?"
846
00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:04,900
And he was the only one
847
00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:06,527
that could have done that
at the time,
848
00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:08,529
his meticulous nature,
and they didn't have Pro Tools.
849
00:49:08,571 --> 00:49:13,033
There were, you know,
aggregate time clocks
850
00:49:13,075 --> 00:49:15,286
for the John Lennon piano track,
851
00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:18,247
but then they had to phase out
the vocals and fly back in.
852
00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:20,499
I mean, it was just right down
Jeff's street, you know,
853
00:49:20,583 --> 00:49:23,210
and what they were left with was
Real Love and Free as a Bird,
854
00:49:23,252 --> 00:49:26,255
which had, you know,
they stand the test of time,
855
00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:29,550
they sound like the Beatles,
but it's, you know...
856
00:49:29,592 --> 00:49:31,427
Jeff was perfect for that role.
857
00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:36,891
Neil Aspinall comes looking for
me, which was great in itself.
858
00:49:37,141 --> 00:49:43,689
But he said... "Oh, can you come
in the studio a sec, Jeff?"
859
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:45,733
"Paul and George want you
to check these harmonies
860
00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:48,319
they're just doing,
they're working out."
861
00:49:48,402 --> 00:49:50,696
And I thought,
"What? Me check 'em?"
862
00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:54,450
"OK, I'll fucking do it."
Hoo-hoo!
863
00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:55,910
You know,
it's quite astonishing, really.
864
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,537
It's something
you'd never expect to happen.
865
00:49:58,621 --> 00:50:00,581
And there it was,
and I was checking them,
866
00:50:00,664 --> 00:50:01,916
and they were brilliant.
867
00:50:02,166 --> 00:50:04,502
The harmonies sounded great,
we recorded them straightaway
868
00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:10,716
and then the sessions went along
really well after that.
869
00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:13,511
George wouldn't have let... they
wouldn't have let anything out,
870
00:50:13,594 --> 00:50:14,803
same, any of them,
871
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:18,182
if they weren't satisfied
with what they did.
872
00:50:18,224 --> 00:50:21,894
So, you know, I think that's...
It says a lot for Jeff.
873
00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:24,855
If we didn't like it, it didn't
matter if John Lennon wrote it
874
00:50:24,939 --> 00:50:26,815
or Paul McCartney
or George Harrison wrote it,
875
00:50:26,857 --> 00:50:28,692
it was like, "No."
876
00:50:28,776 --> 00:50:30,361
And we'd go,
"All right, forget it."
877
00:50:30,402 --> 00:50:31,695
"I'll think of something else."
878
00:50:31,737 --> 00:50:34,532
It kept you on your mettle,
you know, you'd get chucked out,
879
00:50:34,573 --> 00:50:36,617
you know, so that's good.
880
00:50:37,743 --> 00:50:40,704
But they were three
that we liked.
881
00:50:40,788 --> 00:50:45,376
Free as a Bird, Real Love, so
those were the two that we did.
882
00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:48,504
And there was another one
that we started working on,
883
00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:50,005
but George went off it.
884
00:50:52,341 --> 00:50:54,552
"Fucking 'ell.
Fucking rubbish, this is."
885
00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:56,720
It was like,
"No, George, this is John."
886
00:50:56,762 --> 00:50:58,472
"It's still fucking rubbish,
you know."
887
00:50:58,556 --> 00:50:59,598
"Oh, OK, then."
888
00:51:01,225 --> 00:51:03,727
So that one... that one's
still lingering around,
889
00:51:03,769 --> 00:51:07,231
so I'm going to nick in
with Jeff and do it, finish it,
890
00:51:07,273 --> 00:51:08,440
one of these days.
891
00:51:08,524 --> 00:51:10,859
We've always had
a constant fight, Jeff and I,
892
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:15,948
because, you know,
he always wants the click track.
893
00:51:17,157 --> 00:51:18,659
He wants the click
and I keep saying,
894
00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:20,411
"I am the fucking click!"
895
00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:23,664
Of course, when we got the song
finished, I'll never forget,
896
00:51:23,831 --> 00:51:25,416
Paul came and gave me a big hug
and he said,
897
00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:27,167
"Well done. You've done it."
898
00:51:28,002 --> 00:51:31,547
So I was chuffed about that
and that's how it went.
899
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,719
You know, I mean, he had
along run of huge hit singles.
900
00:51:39,722 --> 00:51:44,768
And sometimes when you have
a lot of hit singles
901
00:51:45,603 --> 00:51:48,272
and you're on...
or at least in those days,
902
00:51:48,355 --> 00:51:50,441
it's probably still true today,
903
00:51:50,482 --> 00:51:52,192
you know,
when you're on the AM radio
904
00:51:52,276 --> 00:51:54,403
and you're having
a lot of hit singles,
905
00:51:54,445 --> 00:51:56,614
critics take that for granted,
you know,
906
00:51:56,697 --> 00:52:03,454
and they tend to maybe not be as
kind to you as they should be,
907
00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:07,082
you know, because that's really
an art, to make a hit single.
908
00:52:08,167 --> 00:52:10,711
♪ Midnight
909
00:52:13,464 --> 00:52:16,383
♪ On the water
910
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,264
I saw
911
00:52:25,184 --> 00:52:28,020
♪ The ocean's daughter
912
00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:35,527
♪ Walking on a wave she came
913
00:52:38,197 --> 00:52:43,160
♪ Staring as she called my name
914
00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:47,539
♪ And I can't get it
out of my head...
915
00:52:47,956 --> 00:52:50,459
To me,
pop is the best genre of all
916
00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:51,919
because it's got everything.
917
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,754
It's got everything you need,
you know.
918
00:52:53,796 --> 00:52:56,715
Elvis, the Beatles...
I mean, everything is in there.
919
00:52:56,965 --> 00:52:58,884
All these different
millions of styles,
920
00:52:59,468 --> 00:53:02,971
and it's just...
beautiful pop music.
921
00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:09,353
We're gonna play Electric
Light Orchestra from last year,
922
00:53:09,436 --> 00:53:11,772
Showdown, which I thought
was a great record
923
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:13,857
and I was expecting it
to be number one.
924
00:53:13,941 --> 00:53:15,275
And it's a nice group.
925
00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:16,610
I call them Son of Beatles,
926
00:53:16,694 --> 00:53:19,113
although they're doing things
that we never did obviously.
927
00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:31,750
♪ She cried to the southern win
928
00:53:32,793 --> 00:53:35,963
♪ 'Bout a love
that was sure to end
929
00:53:37,005 --> 00:53:40,467
♪ Every dream
in her heart was gone
930
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:43,887
♪ Heading for a showdown
931
00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:48,851
♪ Bad dreamer, what's your name
932
00:53:49,977 --> 00:53:53,272
♪ Looks like
we're riding on the same train
933
00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:57,359
♪ Looks as though
there'll be more pain
934
00:53:57,985 --> 00:54:01,405
♪ There's gonna be
a showdown, yeah
935
00:54:02,948 --> 00:54:05,743
♪ And it's raining
936
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:09,830
♪ All over the world
937
00:54:12,332 --> 00:54:13,917
♪ Raining
938
00:54:14,835 --> 00:54:18,338
♪ All over the world
939
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:22,384
♪ Tonight the longest night
940
00:54:42,529 --> 00:54:43,697
He's had phases
941
00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:45,616
where his music
sounded really clean,
942
00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:47,826
where it sounded
really programmed,
943
00:54:47,868 --> 00:54:50,621
or when it sounded really loose
and free and orchestral,
944
00:54:50,704 --> 00:54:52,706
or, you know, some...
945
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:55,000
You know, or you've got chanting
or you've got orchestras
946
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:57,628
and sometimes it's just,
you know...
947
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:01,799
There's no real way
of seeing how he's got there.
948
00:55:01,882 --> 00:55:05,719
He's just...
he's got an idea in his head,
949
00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:08,639
and whatever it takes him
to get that onto tape.
950
00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:10,891
I was coming back
from the, you know,
951
00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:12,726
to start making records again.
952
00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:16,188
I finally pulled myself together
and started to bring myself up
953
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:19,191
and I asked Jeff
to produce a couple of tracks,
954
00:55:19,274 --> 00:55:21,109
which he did great,
and that was the start.
955
00:55:21,193 --> 00:55:25,155
And he was part of that,
he was part of me, you know,
956
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,490
getting back on track.
957
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:29,576
There aren't any other producers
really like him.
958
00:55:30,994 --> 00:55:34,832
I think he could do whatever
he sets his mind to, and...
959
00:55:37,543 --> 00:55:40,128
I've always found him
very easy to work with
960
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:45,092
and I always enjoy whatever,
you know, I hear that he's done.
961
00:55:46,301 --> 00:55:47,761
Some people like to use
962
00:55:47,803 --> 00:55:50,973
a specific microphone all the
time for a specific instrument.
963
00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:53,684
I'm not
in that school of thought.
964
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:58,313
I found that Jeff
likes to experiment too.
965
00:55:59,106 --> 00:56:01,942
You use a room
as the echo that you want,
966
00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:06,071
which is always better
than some gadget, you know.
967
00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:08,407
The natural sound of air moving
968
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,159
has got a magic to it that
you can't recreate in a box,
969
00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:12,244
I don't think.
970
00:56:15,414 --> 00:56:18,041
You know,
every room in his house
971
00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:21,295
is part of his studio.
972
00:56:22,421 --> 00:56:23,881
They're all set up.
973
00:56:23,922 --> 00:56:30,220
The furniture is in
a certain place for a sound.
974
00:56:30,971 --> 00:56:33,891
And the living room
is not really a living room.
975
00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:37,060
It's a recording room, you know.
976
00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:43,817
And depending on what idea
he's trying to accomplish
977
00:56:44,860 --> 00:56:48,697
depends what room
you go play in.
978
00:57:04,504 --> 00:57:07,007
Paul actually said to me
when I was working with him,
979
00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,635
he said, "Oh, you're
very thorough, aren't you?"
980
00:57:09,676 --> 00:57:11,261
And I think that's a good thing
981
00:57:11,845 --> 00:57:13,639
You know, I look after
all the little details
982
00:57:13,722 --> 00:57:18,185
and make sure there's not
any little bit of stuff
983
00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:20,228
that shouldn't be there
lurking around.
984
00:57:20,854 --> 00:57:23,565
I'm just trying to get the best
sound I can on all stuff.
985
00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:27,194
And, you know, I think...
986
00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:32,074
I do try and get
different sounds, you know,
987
00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:33,909
different drum sounds
and different...
988
00:57:33,951 --> 00:57:35,577
I try and make them
old-fashioned, you know,
989
00:57:35,661 --> 00:57:37,829
which is a lot of fun,
990
00:57:37,913 --> 00:57:41,500
trying to recreate old rooms
in new rooms.
991
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:50,926
I pay attention to things
that a lot of people don't.
992
00:57:53,053 --> 00:57:54,388
That's probably
one of the things.
993
00:57:54,513 --> 00:57:57,099
Yeah, Jeff likes to work.
994
00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:59,142
You know, he likes to work.
995
00:57:59,977 --> 00:58:05,816
And we're... we're pretty much
rocking here all the time.
996
00:58:06,441 --> 00:58:08,443
When I started, there
were no rules and regulations.
997
00:58:08,694 --> 00:58:10,404
Nobody cared
how loud you had it.
998
00:58:11,571 --> 00:58:14,157
There wasn't little monitors and
people snooping round, going,
999
00:58:14,241 --> 00:58:15,617
"Hey, what do you think
you're doing?"
1000
00:58:15,701 --> 00:58:17,953
and people with coats on,
white coats and that, you know,
1001
00:58:18,036 --> 00:58:18,829
there weren't any of that.
1002
00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:22,124
We come from the same school,
you know.
1003
00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:23,792
We're old analogue guys
1004
00:58:23,875 --> 00:58:26,253
trying to figure out
the digital world.
1005
00:58:27,796 --> 00:58:29,172
He's not interested in fame,
1006
00:58:29,256 --> 00:58:31,299
he's not interested in money
as such.
1007
00:58:31,383 --> 00:58:34,344
You know, he doesn't,
he's not, you know... he's...
1008
00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,889
He's one of
the most balanced people.
1009
00:58:37,973 --> 00:58:40,726
You'd never think of him
as a rock 'n' roller.
1010
00:58:44,062 --> 00:58:45,772
I had a hit on Broadway
1011
00:58:45,856 --> 00:58:47,190
and then he had
a hit on Broadway,
1012
00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:48,817
but he never went to his.
1013
00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:52,404
And I thought, "That's really
kind of cool, you know."
1014
00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:54,656
Can we try that once more?
1015
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:59,411
He blew me away. He's doing
three albums right now.
1016
00:58:59,453 --> 00:59:02,247
Or he may have finished
one of them, I don't know.
1017
00:59:02,289 --> 00:59:03,915
And he was doing show tunes.
1018
00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:06,251
And they were so beautiful.
1019
00:59:06,376 --> 00:59:08,003
So beautiful.
1020
00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:13,258
Jeff has listened to the, you
know, these songs that he likes
1021
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:15,052
and re-created them
and heard them
1022
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:17,429
and put the sort of ELO sound
on them.
1023
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:22,726
Just squeeze a bit more... a bit
more A200 into that lead guitar.
1024
00:59:22,768 --> 00:59:23,769
OK.
1025
00:59:24,895 --> 00:59:28,774
They've all got their own
little worlds that they live in
1026
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:31,068
When you learn 'em,
it gradually becomes apparent
1027
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:33,361
what the important bit's like.
1028
00:59:33,445 --> 00:59:38,408
♪ She may be
the beauty or the beast
1029
00:59:38,492 --> 00:59:42,079
♪ May be the famine
or the feast
1030
00:59:43,038 --> 00:59:45,123
A tiny bit of licence with it.
1031
00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:46,792
You can still find little space
1032
00:59:46,833 --> 00:59:49,002
to put your own
little naughty bits in.
1033
00:59:49,086 --> 00:59:53,924
♪ She may be
the mirror of my dream
1034
00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,301
The first song is called She.
1035
00:59:56,343 --> 00:59:59,012
It was recorded
by Charles Aznavour
1036
00:59:59,096 --> 01:00:01,389
and I loved the...
I loved the tune so much.
1037
01:00:01,473 --> 01:00:04,142
I've always loved it ever since
I first heard it in the '60s.
1038
01:00:04,184 --> 01:00:05,477
I've done
like a thicker version of it,
1039
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,270
more of a harmony version,
1040
01:00:07,312 --> 01:00:10,232
like a lot of backing vocals
and stuff like that.
1041
01:00:10,315 --> 01:00:10,982
How was that?
1042
01:00:12,526 --> 01:00:14,111
- Nice.
- OK, good.
1043
01:00:14,736 --> 01:00:16,780
Double that. Double it.
1044
01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:27,124
♪ She may be
the beauty or the beast
1045
01:00:27,165 --> 01:00:31,002
♪ May be the famine
or the feast
1046
01:00:31,044 --> 01:00:32,003
♪ May turn...
1047
01:00:37,134 --> 01:00:38,927
- Nice.
- That's it. That's done.
1048
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:40,345
That's three-part harmony.
1049
01:00:40,387 --> 01:00:42,889
That's a three-part harmony
right there.
1050
01:00:43,098 --> 01:00:45,851
And he's got a great voice.
1051
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:49,229
He's got a really beautiful
voice, you know.
1052
01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:53,233
Being a singer, you know, it's
not easy to do what he does.
1053
01:00:53,316 --> 01:00:55,402
Got a really classic voice,
you know.
1054
01:00:57,028 --> 01:01:01,366
And it's individual voice too,
it's distinctive.
1055
01:01:01,408 --> 01:01:04,244
You don't... It's nobody else,
you know, it's Jeff Lynne.
1056
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:07,247
♪ I'm wild again
1057
01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:10,959
♪ Beguiled again
1058
01:01:11,459 --> 01:01:14,379
What motivated me to go
in the direction of these tunes
1059
01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:18,258
was just really the fact
that I'd been listening to them
1060
01:01:18,341 --> 01:01:20,719
and only thinking about it,
never planning on it, you know,
1061
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,097
but it took me
about probably three years
1062
01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:26,766
of just thinking about it
to even start doing it.
1063
01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:29,936
I thought, "I've gotta try 'em
because now I understand 'em."
1064
01:01:30,187 --> 01:01:32,898
He obviously loves
1065
01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:36,318
all of those songs...
1066
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:43,200
and has studied
the craft of songwriting
1067
01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:45,452
and understands it.
1068
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,120
And he...
1069
01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:52,459
listened to them all
very carefully.
1070
01:01:53,793 --> 01:01:59,132
And rather than getting
some really good session man
1071
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:05,388
to come in and play
and sing over that,
1072
01:02:07,891 --> 01:02:12,312
he spent a lot of time
doing stuff himself.
1073
01:02:14,481 --> 01:02:17,067
A lot of people wish they could
do that, but they can't.
1074
01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:20,820
That makes it different.
That makes it different.
1075
01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:23,990
- In front of you, Jeff.
- That feels good, don't it?
1076
01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:25,325
Yeah, that's great.
1077
01:02:38,129 --> 01:02:40,382
I think he really captured
the essence
1078
01:02:40,465 --> 01:02:43,885
of... of all those
great old songs.
1079
01:02:45,345 --> 01:02:49,766
And I'm not sure
quite how he did it.
1080
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:53,645
♪ Smile
1081
01:02:53,687 --> 01:02:57,274
♪ Though your heart is aching
1082
01:02:57,357 --> 01:02:59,317
♪ Smile
1083
01:02:59,401 --> 01:03:02,570
♪ Even though it's breaking...
1084
01:03:02,654 --> 01:03:04,155
I've always
loved this song
1085
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:06,324
and I've always been
kind of amazed
1086
01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:08,159
that Charlie Chaplin wrote it.
1087
01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:09,619
What a talented guy.
1088
01:03:10,036 --> 01:03:11,997
He'd written
some really beautiful tunes,
1089
01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:13,456
big-time numbers.
1090
01:03:13,999 --> 01:03:18,461
And this was one
that was very accessible to me,
1091
01:03:18,670 --> 01:03:22,465
nice and simple
and very uplifting
1092
01:03:22,507 --> 01:03:27,554
and... I enjoy listening
to it still, so that's good.
1093
01:03:27,721 --> 01:03:31,975
♪ You'll see the sun
come shining...
1094
01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:34,644
And he had a baby
when he was 83.
1095
01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:41,192
♪ Just running scared...
1096
01:03:43,194 --> 01:03:45,864
Roy actually told me
that this was his favourite one
1097
01:03:45,947 --> 01:03:46,990
that he ever did.
1098
01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:49,951
It's a wonderful masterpiece
of a tune
1099
01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:54,998
because it's so simple
that it almost defies belief.
1100
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,917
♪ Would you choose?
1101
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,338
♪ Then all at once...
1102
01:04:01,629 --> 01:04:03,840
It's just marvellous.
It's like a miniature opera.
1103
01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:07,719
To me, it's like a masterpiece
anyway, and simplicity itself.
1104
01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:10,722
Anyway, Roy was a genius,
you know,
1105
01:04:10,764 --> 01:04:13,683
and a fantastic voice
and everything.
1106
01:04:14,184 --> 01:04:15,352
I can't really do it justice,
1107
01:04:15,435 --> 01:04:17,687
but I do it
as good as I can do it.
1108
01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:20,190
But I can still get up there
and hit that note,
1109
01:04:20,273 --> 01:04:21,691
but only if I use
a pair of stepladders.
1110
01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:30,158
♪ You turned around
and walked away with me
1111
01:04:35,663 --> 01:04:37,332
I think, you know,
there's been a little period
1112
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:41,336
where he did kind of give up,
for the last few years.
1113
01:04:41,419 --> 01:04:44,130
I'd sort of ring him and say,
"You doing something?"
1114
01:04:44,214 --> 01:04:45,632
"No, I'm not doing much."
1115
01:04:45,715 --> 01:04:49,886
But he's back with a vengeance,
from what I can hear.
1116
01:04:50,303 --> 01:04:54,182
Let's try one now. Let's do that
again now with... with...
1117
01:04:54,265 --> 01:04:56,267
I'll put the harmony on it.
1118
01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:59,479
Phil. We'll have Phil
singing along with Don.
1119
01:04:59,562 --> 01:05:01,064
This is how we do it round here.
1120
01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:02,399
OK.
1121
01:05:11,408 --> 01:05:13,701
♪ We used to have...
1122
01:05:13,785 --> 01:05:16,496
Eventually you come out
with the finished thing
1123
01:05:16,538 --> 01:05:18,039
that's got all the bits
you ever heard
1124
01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:20,708
plus your new bits
that you've added to it.
1125
01:05:20,792 --> 01:05:25,839
And it's just like a real nice
feeling of accomplishment
1126
01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,341
to have actually got it done,
you know,
1127
01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:30,677
and there's the beginning,
there's the middle bit
1128
01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:32,178
and there's the end.
1129
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:35,181
And it's just...
it's all the proper music,
1130
01:05:35,223 --> 01:05:36,307
just like they did.
1131
01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:38,601
♪ Love die
1132
01:05:39,602 --> 01:05:45,024
♪ So sad to watch
good love go bad
1133
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:46,818
Did it Work?
1134
01:05:47,068 --> 01:05:48,194
- Yeah.
- OK, good.
1135
01:05:51,698 --> 01:05:53,366
We did this song,
Mercy, Mercy,
1136
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:55,201
and I used to love
playing this live
1137
01:05:55,243 --> 01:05:56,828
all round the pubs
of Birmingham.
1138
01:05:57,036 --> 01:05:58,496
It's one of my favourite ones
to do live
1139
01:05:58,538 --> 01:05:59,539
'cause it had everything.
1140
01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:04,836
It was nice harmony, easy
to sing and nice guitar bits.
1141
01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,505
Just a great thing
for a live group to play.
1142
01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:11,676
Songwriter, singer,
drummer, guitarist.
1143
01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:13,553
You know, you can do it all.
1144
01:06:15,221 --> 01:06:17,765
He's not bad at all.
1145
01:06:18,433 --> 01:06:20,059
All right, Jeff. How you doing?
1146
01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:21,144
All right.
1147
01:06:21,227 --> 01:06:22,395
All right, Jeff. How you going?
1148
01:06:22,479 --> 01:06:23,646
How you going? All right?
1149
01:06:34,073 --> 01:06:36,034
♪ Have mercy
1150
01:06:37,619 --> 01:06:40,580
♪ Have mercy, baby
1151
01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:44,042
♪ Have mercy
1152
01:06:45,251 --> 01:06:47,045
♪ Have mercy on me
1153
01:06:50,465 --> 01:06:53,635
♪ Well, I went to see the Gypsy
1154
01:06:54,552 --> 01:06:57,430
♪ To have my fortune read
1155
01:06:58,389 --> 01:07:02,519
♪ She said, man,
your baby's gonna leave you
1156
01:07:03,061 --> 01:07:05,438
♪ Her bags are packed up
under the bed
1157
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,566
♪ I cried, have mercy
1158
01:07:10,318 --> 01:07:13,238
♪ Have mercy, baby
1159
01:07:14,948 --> 01:07:16,407
♪ Have mercy
1160
01:07:17,825 --> 01:07:20,328
♪ Have mercy on me
1161
01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:26,125
♪ I said, if you leave me, baby
1162
01:07:27,585 --> 01:07:30,129
♪ Girl, if you put me down
1163
01:07:31,631 --> 01:07:35,343
♪ I'm going
to the nearest river, child
1164
01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:38,221
♪ And jump overboard and drown
1165
01:07:38,304 --> 01:07:41,349
♪ Don't leave me, have mercy
1166
01:07:43,017 --> 01:07:45,937
♪ Have mercy, baby
1167
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:49,816
♪ Have mercy
1168
01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:52,777
♪ Have mercy on me
1169
01:07:55,488 --> 01:07:57,949
♪ Well, now, hey, baby
1170
01:07:58,199 --> 01:07:59,826
♪ Hey, hey, now
1171
01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:02,662
♪ What you trying to do?
1172
01:08:04,372 --> 01:08:06,207
♪ Hey, hey, baby
1173
01:08:06,291 --> 01:08:07,875
♪ Hey, hey, now
1174
01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:11,462
♪ Please don't say
we're through
1175
01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:23,474
♪ I said if you stay, baby
1176
01:08:24,767 --> 01:08:26,811
♪ I tell you what I'm gonna do
1177
01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:32,358
♪ I'm gonna work two jobs
seven days a week
1178
01:08:32,692 --> 01:08:35,194
♪ And bring my money
home to you
1179
01:08:35,278 --> 01:08:38,239
♪ Well, I said, have mercy
1180
01:08:40,158 --> 01:08:43,036
♪ Have mercy, baby
1181
01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:46,789
♪ Have mercy
1182
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:50,084
♪ Have mercy on me
1183
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,839
♪ Have mercy
1184
01:08:55,882 --> 01:08:57,800
♪ Have mercy on me
1185
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:02,889
♪ Have mercy
1186
01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:03,973
♪ Mercy, baby
1187
01:09:04,015 --> 01:09:05,933
♪ Have mercy on me
1188
01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:10,647
♪ Have mercy
1189
01:09:12,357 --> 01:09:14,317
♪ Have mercy on me
1190
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:16,903
Working together was...
was great.
1191
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:22,367
'Cause you want someone
who can control the situation
1192
01:09:22,450 --> 01:09:23,660
without appearing to,
1193
01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:27,455
and that comes
from his character.
1194
01:09:27,538 --> 01:09:31,751
He just is that kind of guy, you
know, that he gets things done,
1195
01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,212
but you wouldn't know
he was pulling the strings.
1196
01:09:50,687 --> 01:09:54,565
Very modest,
innocent in some ways.
1197
01:09:54,774 --> 01:09:57,568
At the same time
amazingly accomplished.
1198
01:09:59,654 --> 01:10:03,032
His music certainly
hasn't been overlooked
1199
01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:04,283
because you hear it.
1200
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,869
It's part of the fabric
of all our lives.
1201
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:12,375
But the man himself is very shy
and retreating, you know.
1202
01:10:12,417 --> 01:10:14,919
I don't think
you ever saw his picture
1203
01:10:15,002 --> 01:10:18,423
on an album jacket or anything
back in the ELO days.
1204
01:10:19,006 --> 01:10:21,092
It's been a real treat
working with Jeff.
1205
01:10:21,175 --> 01:10:24,595
I mean, as he mentioned,
1206
01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,432
when he was...
when he was coming up
1207
01:10:27,473 --> 01:10:30,309
and he met the Beatles,
how he had to pinch himself,
1208
01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:31,894
and when he was working
with the Beatles
1209
01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:34,814
helped realise that, you know,
where he is,
1210
01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:38,109
working with such great talent,
that's basically how I feel.
1211
01:10:38,985 --> 01:10:41,529
I think I have
like track marks on my arm
1212
01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:43,698
from pinching myself
so many times.
1213
01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:47,452
Here's a little song
what I wrote about 20 years ago
1214
01:10:47,702 --> 01:10:50,663
about the climate changing.
1215
01:10:51,831 --> 01:10:54,208
Oh, not one of them again.
Here we go.
1216
01:11:01,174 --> 01:11:06,012
♪ One day the earth woke up
and said, boy, I feel half dead
1217
01:11:07,847 --> 01:11:10,892
♪ Somebody's churning up
the poison
1218
01:11:10,975 --> 01:11:14,103
♪ And it's getting in my head
1219
01:11:16,647 --> 01:11:20,777
He's a great, great friend.
1220
01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:30,203
Jeff will do anything for you
if he's your friend.
1221
01:11:32,038 --> 01:11:35,541
He's a wonderfully
gifted artist.
1222
01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:52,433
He plays...
1223
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,688
I don't even know
how many instruments he plays,
1224
01:11:57,730 --> 01:11:59,482
but he plays a lot of 'em.
1225
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:02,193
He's a true master
of what he does, you know,
1226
01:12:02,276 --> 01:12:03,611
and I don't know...
1227
01:12:04,821 --> 01:12:06,739
You know, it's hard to say it
1228
01:12:06,823 --> 01:12:08,991
in a way that doesn't
sound like it's forced.
1229
01:12:09,075 --> 01:12:13,246
I mean, whatever Jeff does
is beautiful.
1230
01:12:13,788 --> 01:12:16,541
Well, as a man
he's been a real pal.
1231
01:12:16,749 --> 01:12:21,003
I think he's, you know,
he's a very loyal person.
1232
01:12:21,254 --> 01:12:24,465
And as a producer
he's meticulous.
1233
01:12:24,507 --> 01:12:29,971
And as a songwriter
he's melodic as can be.
1234
01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:33,474
♪ And remember
all those trees I had
1235
01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:36,018
♪ Well, now there ain't a lot
1236
01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,982
♪ My eyes kept slowly trickling
1237
01:12:41,065 --> 01:12:43,860
♪ Down to where the party's at
1238
01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:49,156
♪ And if everybody
is a-going there
1239
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,870
♪ Well, that's...
the end of that
1240
01:12:56,956 --> 01:13:01,252
♪ Save me now, save me now
1241
01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:05,006
♪ Come on and save me now
1242
01:13:05,047 --> 01:13:07,758
♪ Save me now
1243
01:13:08,634 --> 01:13:11,095
♪ Save me now
1244
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,449
If I hadn't been
doing the music,
1245
01:13:31,532 --> 01:13:33,659
I'd have been really
probably not very happy,
1246
01:13:33,701 --> 01:13:37,622
'cause just all it was
was these black mornings,
1247
01:13:37,705 --> 01:13:42,168
you know, Grey skies,
raining, freezing cold,
1248
01:13:42,209 --> 01:13:45,463
getting up
on the upstairs of the bus,
1249
01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:48,215
going into town, going to work.
1250
01:13:48,466 --> 01:13:49,967
That wasn't really what...
1251
01:13:50,051 --> 01:13:55,056
That didn't have any kind
of fascination for me at all.
1252
01:14:12,406 --> 01:14:16,160
So I'm so glad I got into the..
into the rock 'n' roll music,
1253
01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:18,955
into the pop and rock.
1254
01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:27,171
I had three albums in the top
ten as a producer in America,
1255
01:14:27,254 --> 01:14:30,841
which is quite an amazing thing
to have three in the top ten.
1256
01:14:30,925 --> 01:14:34,011
And I was nominated
for Producer of the Year.
1257
01:14:34,053 --> 01:14:35,638
But I didn't get it. That's OK.
1258
01:14:35,721 --> 01:14:38,391
I still did the albums and that
was more fun than getting that.
1259
01:14:42,895 --> 01:14:46,232
♪ And you really
got a hold on me
1260
01:14:47,483 --> 01:14:48,484
♪ Fab
1261
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:53,531
♪ Long time ago
when we was fab...
1262
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:59,161
♪ Been beat up
and battered around
1263
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,332
♪ Been sent up
and I've been shot down
1264
01:15:04,291 --> 01:15:07,920
♪ You're the best thing
that I've ever found
1265
01:15:08,629 --> 01:15:11,007
♪ Handle me with care
1266
01:15:21,726 --> 01:15:24,186
♪ Free
1267
01:15:26,689 --> 01:15:29,358
♪ As a bird
1268
01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:37,783
♪ It's the next
best thing to be
1269
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,247
♪ Free as a bird...
1270
01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:53,924
♪ Every time I look
into your loving eyes
1271
01:15:56,093 --> 01:16:02,183
♪ I see a love
that money just can't buy
1272
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,146
♪ One look from you
1273
01:16:08,064 --> 01:16:11,525
♪ I drift away
1274
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:15,321
♪ I pray that you
1275
01:16:16,363 --> 01:16:20,117
♪ Are here to stay
1276
01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:24,914
♪ Anything you want, you got it
1277
01:16:25,956 --> 01:16:29,293
♪ Anything you need, you got it
1278
01:16:30,086 --> 01:16:33,547
♪ Anything at all, you got it
1279
01:16:33,631 --> 01:16:36,509
♪ Baby...
1280
01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:56,403
Oi!
1281
01:16:58,030 --> 01:17:00,366
Today's forecast
calls for blue skies.
1282
01:17:11,293 --> 01:17:14,213
♪ Sun is shining in the sky
1283
01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:17,424
♪ There ain't a cloud in sight
1284
01:17:17,508 --> 01:17:19,301
♪ It's stopped raining
1285
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:21,262
♪ Everybody's in a play
1286
01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:23,013
♪ And don't you know
1287
01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:25,933
♪ It's a beautiful new day
1288
01:17:26,016 --> 01:17:27,184
♪ Hey, hey
1289
01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:30,354
♪ Running down the avenue...
1290
01:17:30,437 --> 01:17:33,023
One of the great things
about getting the job
1291
01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:35,401
was to stop my mum
banging up the stairs,
1292
01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:36,861
running up the stairs, shouting
1293
01:17:36,944 --> 01:17:39,196
"Hey, come on,
you lazy bugger, get up."
1294
01:17:39,238 --> 01:17:42,032
And this would be like at 7:30
or eight o'clock in the morning
1295
01:17:42,116 --> 01:17:43,492
This one morning she did this.
1296
01:17:43,534 --> 01:17:46,120
I said, "Hang on, Mum,
before you start,
1297
01:17:46,203 --> 01:17:48,539
I'm not getting up today
or ever again."
1298
01:17:48,622 --> 01:17:51,208
"I'm a professional
musician now."
1299
01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:53,169
And you should have seen
the look on her face.
1300
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,549
♪ Mr Blue Sky,
please tell us why
1301
01:17:58,632 --> 01:18:03,304
♪ You had to hide away
for so long, so long
1302
01:18:03,387 --> 01:18:05,389
♪ Where did we go wrong?
1303
01:18:26,202 --> 01:18:28,329
♪ Hey, you with the pretty face
1304
01:18:28,412 --> 01:18:32,082
♪ Welcome to the human race
1305
01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:33,250
♪ A celebration
1306
01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:36,086
♪ Mr Blue Sky's up there waitin'
1307
01:18:36,128 --> 01:18:41,425
♪ And today is the day
we've waited for, ah ah
1308
01:18:42,593 --> 01:18:45,512
♪ Mr Blue Sky,
please tell us why
1309
01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:50,184
♪ You had to hide away
for so long, so long
1310
01:18:50,267 --> 01:18:52,228
♪ Where did we go wrong?
1311
01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:56,023
♪ Hey there, Mr Blue
1312
01:18:56,106 --> 01:18:58,901
♪ We're so pleased
to be with you
1313
01:18:58,943 --> 01:19:01,528
♪ Look around, see what you do
1314
01:19:01,612 --> 01:19:04,490
♪ Everybody smiles at you
1315
01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:09,912
♪ Mr Blue Sky
1316
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:15,334
♪ Mr Blue Sky
1317
01:19:16,835 --> 01:19:22,132
♪ Mr Blue Sky
1318
01:19:23,467 --> 01:19:26,011
♪ Mr Blue, you did it right
1319
01:19:26,845 --> 01:19:30,099
♪ But soon comes Mr Night
1320
01:19:48,909 --> 01:19:53,414
♪ Well, I stuck my finger
in a woodpecker's hole
1321
01:19:54,331 --> 01:19:57,334
♪ And the Woodpecker said
God bless my soul
1322
01:19:57,376 --> 01:19:59,586
♪ Take it out, take it out
1323
01:20:00,212 --> 01:20:02,339
♪ Take it out, take it out
1324
01:20:02,381 --> 01:20:03,424
Thank you.
1324
01:20:04,305 --> 01:20:10,643
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