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Hello. Hi.

What's your name?

Penny Barber.

Everybody knows you.

Absolutely. They should.

So, Penny, I just want to, we kind of want to get to know you a little bit.

Oh, okay.

Is that all right? Yeah, sure. Let's chat.

So, yeah, let's chat. Let's have a one-way chat.

One-sided chat.

Okay, fine.

So, Penny, when Penny's not being Penny, what do you like to do? What do I like

to do? I like to watch movies quite a bit.

I like to watch movies. I like to write screenplays. I like to make films. I

love movies.

Read books about movies.

Watch reviews of movies.

Fuck around on Letterboxd. I love movies.

Really? Have you always been a movie buff?

You know, I wouldn't have really said it that way.

But, yeah, looking back, like, I didn't quote myself that, but I was always

looking for cult films.

trying to, like, get, like, obscure media and just, like, watching a very

certain type of film. So, yeah, I guess I was. I wouldn't have said that, but I

was. Okay, so you've always been a movie buff. Yeah.

Or a movie nerd.

Well, more that.

Okay, well, let me ask you about your movie adventure here. Yeah, let's do it.

What is your most fondest memory of a movie that you watched, let's say, about

20 years ago?

20 years ago, a movie that I watched 20 years ago, so I would have been 21.

Okay. Oh, you know what? Something that was difficult to do. This is what you

had to do back in the day.

So it isn't like the best movie ever made, but it's this old Alicia

Silverstone movie called The Babysitter, which is based on like a short story or

something.

And so I finally managed to find...

a version of it online and I bought it. But then when it came, it was VHS and I

didn't have a VHS player anymore.

And so I had to go on this big, long journey to like find someone who would

like illegally put this VHS tape on a DVD for me.

I'm on a similar journey right now. I managed to get a copy of Superstar by

Todd Haynes, but it's on VHS.

And so I'm trying to find somebody who will put it on a DVD for me, just

because partly I don't want to run it through the VHS player. I do have a VHS

player. I have a couple, actually.

But I just want it preserved on a DVD if I can get it.

But, yeah, that's my fun thing that I like to do, I guess.

But, yeah, that I've been doing for a long time. Did you ever watch anything

on Laserdisc?

I have watched. Actually, the first movie I saw on Laserdisc was The Full

Monty.

Oh, what's that movie about?

That movie is about a bunch of old men stripping.

And, like, my boyfriend at the time wanted to watch it, and his family had a

Laserdisc player, and they had a few movies on Laserdisc. And I was just

like, okay.

Interesting. And then what is one of your favorite movies of all time? Let's

name five of your favorite movies of all time.

In which genre?

Horror. Five favorite horror movies of all time.

Or three.

I mean, I can go ten, baby.

Let's start with five, then. Okay, five favorite horror movies of all time.

Number one has to be Veneno Balazadas, Poison for the Fairies by Carlos Enrico

Tabada.

Number two has got to be Human Lanterns, which is this really crazy, like...

kung fu horror movie, you have to watch it, it's by this, like, I can't remember

the name of this, like, it's like a Chinese studio that made, like, a lot of

weird shit, if you can watch Human Lanterns, you should watch fucking Human

Lanterns, that's two, Hex is really, really good, it has some great imagery,

I actually had the movie poster back at my house, you should watch Hex, that's

three, ooh, number four, you know what, I'm gonna go with a basic one, just to

show that I'm not a complete asshole, I really liked Obsession, it was really

good, let's go with Obsession, and then, ooh, wait, is that four, number five,

Saint Maude. I'm going to go with Saint Maude by Rose Glass.

Excellent film. One of my favorite on-screen portrayals of the devil.

Yeah, that's five.

Under 30 seconds, I see. Sorry.

Where are you going?

Were you on a timer?

No, I was just like, I don't know. I liked it.

Okay. Do you always speedrun lists?

No, I'm just trying to like, I'm like, oh, I don't want to lose my momentum or

lose count. I don't know. Okay. Given the...

Given the current release of Obsession, did you do your own parody of Obsession

yet?

No. And would you like to be cast in one?

Would I like to do a parody? I feel like that's not really a MILF film. I guess I

could play the weird store owner who goes from being a girl to being a guy.

the owner of the magic shop, but then I'd only have, like, the one, I don't

know. No, I'm sorry.

Okay, in a parody, you can be whatever character you want, because it's a

parody. But I'm a MILF. I don't want, like, MILF Nikki. I want her to be, I

don't know, whatever.

I guess if we're doing MILF Obsession, we could do MILF Obsession. Okay, we'll

do MILF Obsession, Mommy.

You're welcome.

We did MILF Obsession.

Yes, I would want to do that. I can see a way for that to be really, really fun

with the one-wish willow and everything.

All right.

If you had a wishing willow, what would you wish for? What would I wish for with

a one-wish willow?

Oh, God.

Infinite step-sons.

And some step-daughters.

But no, infinite step-sons. Just keep them coming.

We're working on it.

Yeah.

We're doing pretty good, actually.

I kind of do have infinite step-sons.

I'm sure there's a line of fellas that want to, yes.

So, moving on. So, definitely horror movies. Is that your favorite genre, by

chance? No, my favorite genre is dark fantasy. I also really like Soviet

fantasy.

What else do I really like? Oh, you know what? I really like...

What would you call, I don't know what I would even call this genre of movie, but

there's like a certain kind of like really raunchy, like 90s kind of crime

spree, like Natural Born Killers or my all-time favorite number one film, which

is Perdita Durango. It was also released under the title Dance with the Devil.

It has Rosie Perez in it as well as, oh my God, what is his name?

Ah, Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem is in it too.

She's a bit older than he is when they shot it, and still.

But, yeah, if you get a chance to see Perdida Durango, you should watch it.

It's Alexei LaGlacia's first English-language film, and it is a

fucking masterpiece. I also read the book, which was fine.

The movie is perfect. It's a perfect film.

Awesome. So that is your favorite movie of all time. Probably it's Perdida

Durango, yeah. What is the worst movie you've ever seen of all time?

I can't remember what it's called, but I was at Tiki Oasis one year, and they

were showing this creature feature, and it was just so bad.

I walked out.

Really? Yeah.

I walk out of movies if I don't like them.

Yeah, I can't even remember the name of it. And I felt bad. I really tried,

because it was this small movie that some people had just made.

And I'll watch those. I don't mind seeing the scenes or anything, as long

as the people who made it really love film.

But it was just like... I felt like the people who made this didn't really love

film. I felt like they hated film.

And I just, I was like, what the fuck are they doing? So I walked out,

whatever that movie was. I'm sorry, filmmakers, but you guys suck, and I

don't think you should be allowed to touch cameras.

What's a movie that you definitely recall walking out on then?

The first movie I ever walked out of? Yes.

I remember.

I remember the first movie I ever walked out of. I have to talk about being.

kid um but I went to go see some people are going to be mad I went to go see

we're back it's a dinosaur movie it's a cartoon and I was like I think it was

like eight and I was there with my friends my family was on vacation in

Tahoe with another family and I was so excited we got in there we sat in the

very front row and I'm like okay oh my god oh my god I got my popcorn oh my god

and it starts and I was like this is a bad movie

oh my god and so I just kind of like watched like maybe the first like 15-20

minutes of it and I got up and walked out and I was just sitting in the lobby

like that was a bad movie like I couldn't believe that movies could be

bad and eventually my mother came out and she was like what are you doing and

I was like mom that movie was awful and she was like I know sweetie and we just

sat there for the rest of it and just like talked on this bench but yeah wow

sorry people who like that movie but it sucks That's before my time.

Yeah, a little bit.

Now, do you have any aspirations to make your own mainstream films? When I mean

mainstream, non-pornographic films?

I mean, that would be great.

I would love to make a movie.

I have scripts that I've written. One in particular that I really, really like

and would love to see made. Although, it's dirty, though. What am I saying?

But my ideal movie, if I could make anything that I wanted, it would be

pornographic.

I don't know. I mean, I would. I've had people talk to me about the script.

They're like, you should make this, like, less sexual.

And I'm like, but then it's not what I want.

Will you make your own pornographic full-length feature one day?

I would like to. My little boyfriend is like, we were talking, and I was like,

oh, there's this big project I want to do.

And, you know, he got kind of quiet, and I was like, what? And he's like, well,

I've never been in a feature.

And I was like, oh. why can't we just do a feature with him? That would be fun.

We could just do a feature. I don't know. Or maybe this company will take

off and they'll decide let's do something crazy that Penny wants to do.

Something weird and gross that Penny likes.

Now, let's start talking about, there's a lot of stuff about movies and you

filming movies and stuff. Let's talk about how you got into the movies and

your obsession with mommy-doming.

And how did that start?

So I always was very attracted to older women. A lot of times when I would talk

to, like, a woman, I'd be like, whoa, the most commanding, the most beautiful,

the sexiest woman in the room was a lot of times the oldest.

And I think I just really internalized that.

And, you know, I would have, like, older girlfriends.

I think the biggest age gap for me, she was 16 years older than I was.

which I thought was great, and every now and then she would just be like, oh, my

God.

And I was like, I was having a great time.

And then when I was about 22, I was like, I'm old enough. I can tell people

I'm a MILF.

The Internet did not agree.

But I stayed the course, and they don't say that anymore. Now they're like, oh,

you're definitely a MILF.

But yeah, I think I just really like taboo stuff.

I really like, you know what I really like about it, I would say now, is that

I'm like a dominant bottom.

And I really like the idea of a stepson who is like a submissive top.

So like guys who are basically sex toys and will like do what they're told.

So like they're fucking you, you know, but they're like, am I doing a good job,

mommy? I really like that. So I like, yeah, it's a very.

different dynamic than the usual like male dom you know whatever um where the

guys are dominant tops so yeah i like to be a dominant bottom so like i'm getting

sucked but i'm like oh you're doing so good oh you're gonna make mommy come i

like that what was the most recent fetish you discovered about yourself

that you're really into most recent fetish i discovered about myself that

i'm really into man

I've always kind of known. I like latex a lot.

I like the Mommy Dom thing a lot.

I like bondage, but I don't really like, like, the really intricate Japanese

bondage. I like more, I guess, like, serial killer bondage where they're just

tied up and they just have, like, duct tape over their mouths.

I like that. Ooh, I like to watch, um, God, I am more into femdom. I like to

see men struggle when they're in bondage. That's really fun, or, like,

watch them get jerked off while they're in bondage.

I'm into cigar service. I like leather. I like boots.

But anything new that you explored by chance?

Not recently.

Why? What are you thinking?

No, just wondering.

Okay, I don't think so. Yeah, I'm kind of like looking at you. I'm like, what

did I do?

No, it's just a legitimate question. Do you feel that you're continuously

exploring your sexuality, or do you feel like you capped up, you're finished,

you've figured it all out, or do you feel like you're still expanding?

You know what I like.

Okay. I know what I like.

You've been around.

Yeah, I've been around. You've figured it all out. I've been around. If

something new comes up, great, but I don't think it will.

Hey, that's why I'm asking. Are you actively looking for new things that

interest you?

I'm actively looking for attractive men in their 20s and 30s who will do what I

tell them. Okay.

We'll get you one of those today.

Who will eat pussy on demand. Yeah. Great.

Do whatever you want.

Now, do you have, speaking about fetishes and all this, do you have a

favorite porn movie of which any era?

60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s even. A favorite?

porn movie okay well everybody likes emmanuel i really liked lamage

you know i've never seen the green door actually oh my god have

you seen the alice in wonderland musical it's so bad i would say that one but i'd

love to hate it like i know what my favorite is have you seen caligula with

uh what's his name malcolm mcdowell and like helen mirren's in it

Caligula. Is that an actual porno? Yeah, I have it. I just got it on DVD.

I'll lend it to you.

Thank you, Mom. You're welcome.

It's really good.

What year was that?

It must have been the 70s, maybe the 80s.

Caligula. Caligula.

What year?

I can't find it.

What?

Just look Caligula movie.

It'll come up. And that's a porno?

I mean, yeah.

Well, no. It's a porno. It is. Yeah, it is. There's actual fucking on camera.

Hard dicks and fucking... 1979?

Yeah, 70s, 80s. Yeah, 1979, Caligula. Malcolm McDowell, Helen Mirren.

I think Peter O'Toole was in it.

And it's porn.

And it is a scene.

The scene that everybody always freaks out about is when he's fisting the guy.

But I'm like, that's the least worst thing that they do. But whatever, I

guess just guys are like, oh no.

Because it is an R-word scene.

But, yeah. Did you ever see the movie Taboo?

Taboo? No, what's that?

That sounds like I would love that.

Taboo is the original 1970s porno movie about a

son or stepson that wants to fuck his mother.

Did you tell me about this before?

Maybe. Maybe. We just met, so I don't know. Oh, yeah. Sorry.

Never mind.

Obviously, I need to see that.

There's Taboo 1 and Taboo 2.

Oh, there's another one. I can't remember the name of it. I'm not going

to bring it up. As one of the elite taboo

models here, I should see Taboo. You should see Taboo. Yes, absolutely.

It's a 70s classic.

Anyways, so what hobbies else do you have? You said you like to read books.

What's your most favorite book or genre of books you like? I read, yeah, what am

I reading right now?

Right now I'm reading Neuromancer.

which is hilarious.

I really like Snow Crash.

What else do I read? I read a lot of medieval historical nonfiction.

Right now I'm rereading Fabulous Feasts. I just finished this thing on Eleanor of

Aquitaine, obviously, because she, you know, her husband was like 11 years

younger than she was, and she'd also fucked his dad.

Yeah. What else do I like to read?

I really like Donna Tartt. She's probably my favorite author.

And, yeah, that's enough to get you started.

Fair enough.

Do you ever imagine yourself in a – would you – all this talk about being

the older woman with the younger man. Would you ever find yourself in a

relationship with the younger man as the older woman? Oh, would I ever?

My boyfriend's 11 years younger than I am.

And how's that going?

I am having a great time.

He exclusively calls me mommy. It's great.

I fucking love it.

What are your biggest turn-ons, Mommy?

Thank you. Being called Mommy, I love that.

Oh, I thought of something new that I just recently discovered about myself

that I like that he started doing. So in, like, literally every relationship

I've ever been in, like, I've been the initiator of sex.

And I'm dating Peter Hook.

Now, he's so cute. He did this yesterday morning and he did it again this

morning.

He initiates sex, which I hadn't really done before and I like.

But the way he's been doing it is like we'll be sleeping and in the morning

he'll kind of like crawl into my arms and like start nursing to wake me up.

It's pretty good.

Then we'll fuck. But yeah.

I like that a lot. I like being nursed awake in the morning.

That's a very...

Very new fetish of yours.

I mean, I always liked it. I had fun when I was lactating, and I liked it,

but I never really thought of it that way. But, yeah, it's good being woken up

by a big, huge, blonde muscle boy deciding to suck on your tits. It's

nice. Oh, good.

You should try it.

With him?

Or you?

Oh, I meant with him.

Listen, lady.

Okay, so what were we talking about before you?

Who knows?

Who knows what I'm saying?

Something. All right. So we'll move on to our next possible subject here.

When it comes to sports, do you have any interest in sports at all or no?

I might, like, go to Kyoto to watch, like, the sumo wrestling or something.

And I do like to watch, like, wrestling, like, WWE-style wrestling.

Which I think, you know, you're still doing a bunch of tricks and things. I

still think it's a sport.

Yeah, I guess I would like to watch dudes fight, but, like, I also don't go

out of my way to do it.

Have you ever had men fight over you?

No, not to my knowledge.

Would you want to?

Yeah, I used to have a fantasy about, like, having two guys fighting and I'm

just, like, sitting there and, like, you know, you fuck the winner. Kind of like

in Bad Times at the El Royale when he had, like...

Has the two girls fight over him, and then the winner gets to go to bed with

him. Like that.

The gender swap.

Do me a favor here.

Penny, why don't you paint us the best porn scenario, unlimited money.

What would you film? Would you film it? Would you be in it? What would you do?

It's called Doing Time for Mommy. We open on a shot of the desert.

I actually decided to recall it contempt.

I'm going to try to make it. I don't know. We'll try to see how it goes. But

I always really like the idea of, like, being, like, a crime boss mom and you

have, like, sons who will, like, do anything for you. Okay. And so I just

really like, like I said, I really like, like, a 90s kind of, like, crime spree.

And so I would really love to do, like, a version of that. But it's, like, a mom

and she's, like, picking up her.

son or stepson, um, from, from jail where he's just like getting out because

he just did like, like three months for contempt of court or something. Cause he

wouldn't rat her out.

And then like, it's, it's like this cat and mouse kind of game where they're

having like a power struggle to see who's in charge because she does

something that he doesn't like. And like, yeah, sorry.

But yeah, it's like that. It's like, it's a, it's a dirty mother, mother, son

crime spree, sort of like natural born killers, but incest, taboo, sorry.

Taboo.

Excellent. And that would be your unlimited movie money as much as you

can. Oh, I would want to like rent like a vintage cherry red Mustang convertible

and like get all these like crazy shots.

I have plans.

Okay, great. Would you ever make that movie if you were funded?

In a heartbeat.

In a heartbeat.

And is that a script that has already been written?

Yeah, it is.

In several iterations.

I've shopped it around to a few places and they're like, we can't fucking make,

he can't put a gun in her pussy. And I'm like, come on.

Never do what I want to do.

Okay.

Wow. So we learned a lot about you, Penny. Is there something I wouldn't

know? It's not real.

I know. It's a movie. It's fake.

It's a movie. So do you imagine yourself, how long would you be if you

could choose?

To be in porn as a 65-year-old girl, would you do it?

I would love it. I know somebody asked once, they're like, oh, what would you

be doing if you won, I don't know, $100 million or something? I'm like, I would

just make bigger porn.

I would just make Caligula again. I would just, I fucking love it. I don't

know why people seem to have these exit strategies.

It's like people who live in Hawaii and they're like, oh, I'm going to work. I'm

like, where would you want to go?

This is great.

Have you seen Anthony Pierce naked? It's pretty good.

Ooh, so you like your step-sons. I do.

I like having a bunch of hot, hung step-sons.

So how do you feel about small, hung step-sons?

I said hot, not big.

Oh, I thought you said hung.

Oh, I did say hung. Oh, wait, you said small, hung step-sons.

Like small wieners. How do you feel about small wieners?

They're great.

They're great. Would you consider yourself a size queen?

No, no.

Let's play truth or dare.

No, let's play true or false.

Oh, God.

True. Did you sit there and worship a cock for about 10 minutes? You always

bring that up.

It was pretty.

True or false. Did you do a clip where you talked to yourself on the phone when

nobody else on it for a good 20 minutes?

Did we do that?

Yes. That sounds like, I had to do it again today, actually, first.

All right, Penny, we want to congratulate you for being the Halloween

Taboo Taste of the Month. How does it feel?

Natural, as it should be.

If I was going to get to be a Taboo Taste of the Month MILF, I'm glad it's

Halloween. It feels so appropriate.

I hope that you watch a million scary movies, and I hope that you come super

hard while you're watching me have my way with yet another stepson. And how

would you feel if one of your stepsons created an empire of pornography?

Would you be proud of that, stepson?

I would be so proud. I'd put it right up on the refrigerator.

Anthony! That's not funny. Okay, go do something productive. Go get the candy

ready for the trick-or-treaters.

I can't do this. I have to... I have to get my mind off of it. I'm gonna go...

I'm gonna go finish decorating my room.

Oh my gosh!

Anthony!

Come here.

Come here.

Yeah, right there.

Mm-hmm.

You know... Gosh, step-mommy's heart is just racing.

You, um... You really... You can't keep staring.

stepmommy like that. Do you understand?

Yeah? Yeah. You understand?

Because you see, Anthony, when you do that,

it makes stepmommy very excited.

And I start to feel a little funny.

And if you keep

I don't know. Should we be doing that?

Shh, shh, shh.

I said, if you keep scaring me, I'm

going to have to do something to teach you a lesson.

You know, actions have consequences.

You have been such a bad boy. Didn't I tell you to go get the candy ready for

the trick-or-treaters?

Yeah. Yeah?

Oh, my gosh.

How do you think he would feel, Anthony, if you were expecting a treat and

instead you just didn't get anything?

I'd feel bad.

Yeah, that'd be frustrating, wouldn't it?

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah, you can't keep doing that. You know what? I already told you.

I already told you. And you did it again, didn't you?

Yeah. Yeah, you did.

I want you to lie down with your head over there.

Come on.

Yes, Mommy.

Yes, Mommy. Yes, Mommy.

Yeah.

Oh, gosh.

Oh, gosh. Yes, Mommy.

Here, you can have that if you want it.

You don't have to have it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, Mom, what are you...

What are you doing?

I'm just making sure that you understand that your actions have consequences.

You're such a bad boy.

Every time you do that, my heart just jumps.

I get so excited.

You're not supposed to make me feel that way, are you?

I don't think so.

You don't think so?

What are you trying to do?

Are you trying to scare Step Mommy?

Yeah, I'm trying to give you a good scare.

Yeah, just trying to give me a good scare?

Trying to scare Step Mommy?

Yeah? Mm-hmm.

Oh, gosh.

Every time you do that, every time you scare me, oh, my pussy just gets so

tight, and it starts dripping.

You're really not supposed to make me feel like that.

You're not supposed to.

It's your fault that my pussy is just throbbing like this.

I'm sorry, Mommy.

But you're going to have to take care of it. You can't just say sorry. You're

going to have to do something about it.

Okay. You're going to have to work really hard to make Mommy's pussy feel

satisfied.

Yeah? Uh-huh.

Good boy.

Here.

Hi.

Here, let mommy see.

Here, let mommy see.

Oh my gosh.

Anthony.

Look at that.

So beautiful.

Such a bad boy jumping out at me just scaring me

Help how it makes me feel

I think mommy needs to put that in her mouth.

Yeah, mommy needs to put that big cock in her mouth.

Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I think that's what's best.

If you're going to keep being bad, Mommy's going to have to keep doing

this.

Mommy's going to have to keep doing this until you come home to be a good boy and

do what I tell you.

Oh, I'm not scared, Mommy.

I was scaring you so far.

Oh, is it?

Mommy likes how big and hard that is.

Look, it's so nice.

I think that big, pretty cock is going to feel really nice inside Mommy's

pussy.

Lift up like that, yeah? You want to get naked?

Yeah.

Yeah, if you just take your clothes off. You don't want to get all that stuff

dirty, huh?

You don't want to get all that dirty. Take off your shirt, too. Can you do

that? Yeah.

Get that off.

You're so talented.

Oh my god, mommy, it feels so good.

Mm-mm-mm.

Just suck that cock from the street.

Yeah, suck it from the street.

Oh, fuck, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, that cock's going back in my mouth now.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, fuck, yeah.

Oh.

So when your cock tastes like sex.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Oh, God, yeah.

Oh, sweetie.

Oh my God.

Oh, my God, Mom.

Wait, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, baby boy, yeah.

Oh, fuck, baby boy.

Yeah, you're doing really good.

You're making Mommy's pussy feel fucking amazing.

Oh, fuck.

Yeah, you're making Mommy feel good. Oh, fuck, you're making Mommy feel good. Oh,

fuck, you're making Mommy feel good.

Oh, fuck, you're making Mommy feel good. Oh, fuck, you're making Mommy feel good.

Oh, my God.

Fuck, you're making mommy's pussy feel so good.

Oh my god, that is a fucking flip-flop dog.

You find it?

Oh, there it is.

Oh my god.

Oh.

God, yes.

Oh my God.

Oh, fuck yes please.

Oh, fuck yes please.

Oh, fuck yes please.

Oh, fuck yes please.

I like to watch you fuck.

Oh, fuck, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, mommy likes to watch you do that.

Oh my God.

Keep scaring Mommy. You're going to have to keep doing that.

That's what you're saying, is keep doing it?

No, you have to be good.

It would be nice if you'd have Mommy's towel.

Thank you.

Happy Halloween.