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Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang. H what an a lovely

guest we have today. Olivia Coleman, an

incredible actress, just a dear, tender,

beautiful person. And um we are going to

talk about a lot of great things today.

We're going to talk about

whether or not it's important to fight

in relationships. We're going to talk

about playing the queen. Uh we are going

to talk about her new movie, The Roses,

and all the hilarious people that she

got to be in it with. We're talking

about so many good things today. Um but

we always want to uh start these

episodes by bringing in someone who

knows our guest, who helps us uh ease

into our guest, who gives us a question

to ask our guest. And we got a big star

today. We have an actor who was in

Doctor Strange. He was Sherlock. He is

in the roses. He is also famously in a

Kian Peele sketch where they name

football player names. He is the one,

the only Benedict Cumberbatch

from Oxford University.

>> Benedict. Hello.

>> What do you say?

All I ever wanted.

>> Hey Amy, how are you?

>> Hi. It's good to see you.

>> I got ridiculous glass on because I

can't see. So you're

>> okay. You can just hear my voice. No,

>> I can see you now because I'm wearing

these glasses like this. You're a

beautiful blonde blur, but like that.

You're a very sharp blonde.

>> Now, what's your prescription? Because

are you new to glasses?

>> 1.6. Something like that. I'm I'm new to

sort of giving into them.

>> Same. I'm just I like need them for

reading but not yet for driving.

>> It's so boring, isn't it? And I I'm I'm

not one of those people that get my I

can't get them lasered. It's very

boring.

>> It's not boring because I feel like now

that I can hide behind glasses, my life

has changed and also people think I'm

smarter. Anyway, hi. Nice to see you.

Thank you for doing this.

>> You're so welcome.

>> Um okay, I know you're in the middle of

a giant press thing and we are talking

to Olivia.

>> Yeah, I'm a little hurt, but there we

go.

>> I know. Sorry we couldn't get you, but

you uh you uh signed a restraining order

against me many years ago and you don't

let me get close to you. So,

>> that's true. After the Golden Globes,

it's right.

>> Okay. So, question for you before we get

to your question, we're asking, we like

to do this thing when we have our guests

on where we talk to people who know them

and kind of talk well behind their back.

And the first thing I just wanted to say

is that when I was doing some research

on on the film that The Roses that

you're promoting and also you and

Olivia, you guys haven't worked together

as much as I assumed you would have.

>> We've never worked together.

>> Never.

>> No. And we, you know, we've been friends

for a long time and always said we

should we should work together. And this

is what was sort of born out of that

conversation.

>> What kind of friend is Olivia?

>> Incredibly loyal, ridiculously good fun.

Uh she facilitates naughtiness.

Uh, she's just sort of

is it pretty naturally? Is that the

phrase? Upbeat. I mean, it's kind of

that's the one. If there's a critique of

it, it's like, how the [ __ ] is she doing

this authentically? I don't understand

how this person can be so good at being

just upbeat and just delightful. And she

literally she this is veering into work

rather than friendship, but it's the

same with friendship. She can go into a

work environment any moment that we were

in the studio together and just you just

see everyone all the crew everyone going

everyone just lifted and brightened by

her being around. It feels it feels that

way when you watch her work and then

also be herself like and I have you know

we kind of get this we kind of came uh

or I came on to upon this theory when I

was at SNL which you were so brilliant

on is you have all these people come

through and you realize that usually the

most talented people are the easiest to

work with. Yeah, I kind of the older I

get that the more I just that's sort of

I can't be doing with people who are

hard to work. I just that's my one sort

of commodly kind of thing. I it it

shouldn't have to be hard.

>> Okay. And then the other thing I wanted

to ask you and then we'll get to your

question. There's nothing like more

satisfying than when somebody has a

sense of humor about themselves. like

it's such a sign of intelligence like

and you and Olivia in this movie really

go at each other, your characters really

go at each other, but do you feel like

there's also just a way in which Brits

are allowed to kind of tease in a

heartier and more sharp way than than

Americans?

>> I don't know. Personally, I think

there's a there's there's often a very

barbed, cruel, and slightly pinched uh

aspect to British irony. I think it

could get a bit too much to be honest.

As an English characteristic, the

sharpness of it isn't something I find

that pleasant. It's very funny in this

film. I think also Americans and this is

obviously played up in the kind of

cultural difference. One of the key

differences between our version and the

original Michael Douglas Turner and

Dvito film is that they're they're an

English couple in an American world and

that much later of the culture clashes

and misunderstandings to great effect.

But they start roasting each other and

actually you as a culture I think have

completely one uped it.

>> You're right. We have we have passed you

in the mean Olympics.

>> You've gone the dial broken.

There's a good trade I think which evens

us out both in the gross out humor and

also the very sort of wellought through

ironic

uh witty intellectual humor. And I I

we play up to the difference but I don't

think there is so much of a difference

anymore. It's very interchangeable.

>> I agree. I think it's very hard to pull

off both physical comedy and really like

sharp and sarcastic wit. Both of those

things are hard to do. Well,

>> yeah. I think if you do that, you could

do anything. I grew up with two parents,

both actors. My mom in particular doing,

you know, sort of end of the pier kind

of whoops, there go my nicker vicar's uh

nicker vicers nickers vicar uh kind of

fastes and um to the point where I was

like, "Mom, you you've got to do

something else now." Um you I can't

watch in an audience as you as a

teenager. I can't watch you come into a

room where your politician husband is

having his pants pulled down because of

something and it looks like his male

assistant is giving him a [ __ ] and

you turn to the audience and go and then

walk off. Um, so you know, having grown

up with that kind of humor, if you can

do comedy is my point, you can do

anything. I really do believe that. And

I'm not just

>> of course I feel

>> you don't have to tell me, babe. Every

single year at the Oscars,

everybody gets blanked and all the

serious people get up and accept and

accept and accept.

>> No, no, no. It's true.

>> And it's some hot [ __ ]

>> because comedy is not easy. And I got to

tell you, both you and Olivia can do

both.

>> Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. That's

very kind.

>> Okay. So, do you have any question for

Olivia today?

>> Yeah. Okay. Um,

is she wearing any under? No.

Uh, is there something she's afraid of?

Because I think she's one of the most

fearless performers that I know. I don't

see her being afraid of anything. But I

wonder if there is. I wonder.

>> Oh, that's a great question.

>> Yeah. And would she do it? That's the

other. What What are you most afraid of?

And would you would you be any good at

facing that fear?

>> Deep question.

>> I should be doing this interview.

>> Tough question. Yes. I mean, do you want

to switch places here? No, just everyone

wants to hear you do the interview.

>> Okay. Well, I know you are in an hour or

two of a 12-hour marathon.

Congratulations on the film. Thank you

so much for doing this. I hope we get to

see each other not in full formal wear

someday, but at an actual

>> I do too. That'd be lovely. Much

>> love.

>> Thank you so much, Benedict. Appreciate

it. Thanks for your time.

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>> Hello. Hello. Hello.

>> Hello.

>> Okay. Thank you for coming and being

here so much for having me.

>> You know, I was looking over um your uh

your life, like your timeline, cuz we're

the same age. About the same age. You

look much younger than me.

>> No, you No.

>> No, you do. Actually,

>> I'm 50. Hold on. I have to remember. I

was born in 71. So, I'm 50.

>> You're born in

>> I'm 74. So,

>> yeah. Well, so you're a little younger

than me, so

>> Well, I look older.

>> No, you do.

>> Americans just look better,

>> do you think?

>> Yeah.

>> Well, British people seem smarter, so

everything out.

>> You'll find out that's not true.

>> And you'll find out and when you get a

little closer. Okay. So, but we but you

know we kind of have some parallels

because you met a lot of your friends

and co-workers

at Foot Lights.

>> Yeah. Kind of you know you went to this

very

important place that we Americans used

to hear about.

>> Yes. I will um I wasn't actually at the

university but this was this is

something that gets regularly.

>> You were not at Cambridge. I was in the

town of Cambridge

>> working as a cleaner and um

>> very interesting.

>> So yes, you get well I did I was at the

teacher training college for about a

term I think and left

>> and then no one questioned me cuz I had

a bicycle and I looked the same as

everyone else same age. So I just would

turn up to things and they

>> and was there like an auditioning

process to get into Foot Lights?

>> Yes. And that's where I met my lovely

friends who then basically were

responsible for me getting work for

years afterwards.

>> Yeah. Because

>> but I just feel very it feels like a big

lie if I guys at Cambridge.

>> Absolutely.

>> This is already very British. The

distinction that you didn't go to school

there is is an important one for you.

>> Yeah. Well, I feel like people who were

there would go, "No, you didn't." And

you know, it's I think it's so

impressive to have worked so hard and be

so clever to get there. It would be a

bit much if with my terrible A levels I

I suggested that I got in.

>> So people that were not going there

could go could be in the in could

perform there.

>> Yes. I think I just I didn't lie, but I

just certainly didn't tell anyone.

>> So it can be taken back. You could be

technically arrested for Yeah. at some

point.

>> Maybe.

So you go and you a Do you remember what

how you had to audition for

>> I do remember going I was in there was a

building called the Union Society and

this is when I did have my student card

because I was actually at the teacher

training thingy and uh and there was a

sign it was handwritten in bro on a the

audition arrow. Oh fun. So I went along

and I didn't know it was the footlights

and um I know and I'm pleased I didn't

know.

>> Yeah. And they were they were boys

looking bored sitting behind a desk and

said entertainers will sell something to

us that looks like this isn't food. I

went okay.

>> So there was a disgusting ashtray which

must have been there for years and I

picked up a fact but that sounds weird

in American English.

>> Cigarette butt

>> cigarette end. And um and I tried to

sell it and it wasn't going very well.

No one was laughing, so I ate it

under desperation. And they still didn't

laugh. They just looked absolutely

horrified. But they they let me in

because they thought, well, she's she's

game. She's she's going to do some funny

stuff.

>> What is it going to take to get those

guys to laugh?

>> Yeah.

Um that is so that's so that's such a

great story. And then you got in and

then you met all these like what you

know I I

>> that that time period in my life I know

doing sketch and improv and all that

stuff for

>> a small number of people with friends in

the hopes that someday you could do more

of it

>> like what do you remember of those

times?

>> Well I because obviously as you know you

all had to help write and everything. I

was terrible at the writing. Uh, I just

really enjoyed performing and uh, being

on stage and making people laugh was

like the best like crack, like the best

thing.

>> It is. I I said it for me it was the

closest feeling to being a vampire

>> where you just like I'm becoming a

vampire.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, I've got goosebumps. I totally

understand.

>> Just you're like, look what I've done.

Like just this weird

>> powerful in control flush of excitement.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And so desperate to get that back and

>> yes, your whole life is chasing it

again.

>> What was the first you remember the

feeling of like the first big laugh, you

know, where you where you did something

and you watched people laugh at you and

you thought, "Oh, I love this feeling."

>> I don't know if I can remember that.

>> No.

>> Were you in plays as a kid?

>> I did my first ever school play when I

was 16 and that was that was the prime

of Miss Jean Broaddy. not a comedy, but

um I just remember people clapping at

the end and I'd always been so rubbish

at school.

>> I'd never I sort of oh I couldn't wait

for it to finish, you know, doesn't

really I'd look out the window and found

it really hard to concentrate and

>> and then suddenly I I committed to

learning all of these lines. Suddenly I

why couldn't I learn other stuff? that I

would do that and then when they clapped

that was the moment when I went

>> I love it.

>> It was like it was like electricity

coming out of your fingertips like get

off get off. No.

>> Loved it.

>> Yeah. I mean do you consider yourself a

were you an extroverted kid? Like were

you were you are people um not surprised

that you ended up being an actor or

>> don't know. So, I think it's quite I

think as I've got older, I've got more

and more shy in a way. And I I think

people knowing your face and you not

knowing their face

>> puts you in a you know,

>> it's an not an equal footing.

>> I really relate to what you're saying

about even though I think people might

think that's funny that both of us are

saying this, but getting a little shy as

you get older.

>> Totally.

>> I really relate to that. What do you

think that is? I I think it is

well as you know as I said that it's

it's an unequal thing. So I love I don't

know if you ever go to a country where

maybe your shows aren't seen.

>> Oh yeah. It's called the UK.

>> That's not true. But you know well if if

you can walk feel like you can walk down

the street and no one has done a double

take or a nudge or a secret photo.

>> Yeah.

>> It feels amazing.

>> Yes.

>> I love that.

>> Yeah. Being observed is weird because

especially it sounds like you're like

you you you are an observer. You like to

observe people. So when you're being

observed, it's a strange feeling.

>> Yeah. I find it discomforting and it

means I don't want to go anywhere with

my children.

>> I don't want people to, you know, see

who they are.

>> Yeah.

>> It's their decision to to do what they

want to do with their lives. Not

>> um

>> and kids don't like it doesn't even you

don't even have to be an actor. Kids

just don't like sharing their parents

with people.

>> Yeah. I do understand that.

>> Yeah, I know. And it's it's hard to

explain to them that that is your work,

but it is it is it's a universal

feeling. The kids do kids want their

parents when they want them.

>> Mine. Yeah. And

>> I've been lucky compared to many people

in our industry. I I haven't had to be

away from home that much.

>> Yeah.

>> And uh and my youngest, so in recent

years, I've had to be about way a bit

more. And she hates it. M I sort of love

it actually. But

>> yeah, she's still missing you.

>> How old is your youngest?

>> Yeah. Uh youngest is 10.

>> Okay. Okay. Right. So you still have

>> Yeah.

>> some sweetness there.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And really she's really lovely.

They're all lovely.

>> I know. Does anyone any of them want to

be an actor?

>> No. Furious.

>> Yeah.

>> Livid with them.

>> Yeah.

>> You know,

>> I'm like get up there and earn some

money for this family.

>> Just I So they laugh at me cuz Yeah. Um,

it's a bit, you know, ab fab.

>> And my big boy, uh, wants to be a

physicist.

>> Wow.

>> I mean, just

>> incredible.

>> He can also, that's the only way he can

rebel with you and your husband.

>> Totally. He goes, "Mom, no one says,

"Oh, why can't you be a rockstar?"

>> I do.

>> They're all so sensible.

>> Yeah. Physicist is

>> physicist.

>> That's smart.

>> I mean, who employs physicists

>> these days? No one.

>> No one. see

>> with long hair. Forget it. He's never

going to get through the door.

>> Okay. So, you're at you're at Foot

Lights, you're making all these friends,

you're deciding. You know what I love

about your career and you is that you

you are the ultimate to me proof that

when someone can do comedy really well,

they can do anything. And I guess you

came into the business doing comedy.

When was was it Tyrannosaur that

switched? Was that

>> Yeah. Do can you talk about that film

and and getting cast in that?

>> Yeah. So, comedy I I'd never intended. I

just found a place there and I really

loved it.

>> And um I'd always imagined maybe

uh from from that first play at school,

I thought maybe I could be an actor, but

you didn't dare say it out loud.

>> Yeah.

>> And and then it felt like there were two

lists of actors. There's funny ones, not

funny ones, and you can't cross over.

>> Absolutely not allowed.

>> No. And it takes someone to, you know,

to really put their neck on the line to

go, "No, I would like them to do that."

So, it was Patty Considine I met when we

were doing uh Hot Fuzz.

>> Yes.

>> I was so excited to meet him and I

opened the door and grinned at him.

Hello. And and he decided in that

moment, oh, she's she'll be right for my

film.

>> Wow.

>> I know.

>> So, always open the door, people. Always

be nice. You never know.

>> Wow. And it was it totally changed the

trajectory. It's a word I find hard to

do. Um of my career

>> because it went to Sundance and it was

like this, you know, very lauded

performance and people saw this version

of you basically and they said, "Oh, we

can I know. It's very

It's Isn't it interesting how life is

just

just the smallest changes and moves in

your life when you're and you're on

another track?"

>> Yeah, totally. and so often having to

wait for someone else to

>> Yeah.

>> to to you know let that happen for you

which is frustrating.

>> Yeah.

>> But I'm so grateful to Patty.

>> Do you ever think to yourself like I'm

in the mood right now to do something

heavier? I'm in the mood right now to do

something lighter. Do you think about

that when you're picking stuff?

>> You know like

>> I don't know if I might do

subconsciously. I always used to rely

very much on gut feeling. Yeah. You know

um and I feel a bit like I've lost that

ability. I've gone a little bit.

>> I don't know if that happens as well as

we get older, but

>> I sometimes think I think I've

>> I can't tell now.

>> If a my agent has a great litmus test,

so if you read it and you're unsure um

if your nemesis gets the part, are you

going to want to,

>> you know, pull your hair out? And

>> it's so funny. I think about that, too.

If I saw it a year later, like a trailer

for it, and I was jealous.

>> Yeah.

>> If I thought if I saw something go,

okay. I can let this go or no, I have to

fight for it.

>> Yeah. Yeah. But um but

>> sorry, I didn't answer your question at

all. Did I? I did I go somewhere else?

>> Well, I Well, what why I I ask is

because you've been in all of my

favorite things and when we look at all

of the stuff that you've been in, your

career is incredible, Olivia. like you

have done.

>> Okay. But I want to stay with comedy for

a second just because I feel like

>> and I kind of made a joke about it

earlier, but there is this thing our

with people our age where

>> the US and UK were

>> so connected in so many ways but had

completely different comedic

experiences. There were only a few shows

in my opinion that came over to us.

>> Yeah.

>> Like it wasn't until I was in my 20s and

30s that I learned about all this great

British comedy that I never got to see.

>> Okay. And I, you know, you know, we got

kind of the big ones, right, growing

like Money Python and, you know, Ab Fab

and stuff like that, but then there was

this huge amount of shows that we never

saw that you had to kind of search and

find out and watch on, you know, VHS and

like trade with your friends.

>> Yeah.

Did you have shows here in the States

that you didn't know about or didn't

watch that you had to kind of catch up

and know about once you started becoming

>> weirdly sort of SNL which is a you know

>> it's it's like a little comedy heaven.

Um I didn't know about that for so long

cuz I I don't think it was shown on

television in the UK. No. And it was

only funny friends who were obsessed

with it and went what why what is it and

then started to to look at it

>> because this is pre- internet like we

couldn't Google anything. We didn't have

this high-tech stuff. I have I have a

laptop on my

>> and that's very cool and I can type in

anything you want to know.

>> You want to know the recipe to something

but yeah but you couldn't clip anything

you couldn't watching. So I remember

watching like Alan Partridge and all

this stuff on VHS, but 10 years after it

was on.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's the same. Well,

we got and we still have, which I love,

um, every weekday morning on channel 4,

they have starts with Cheers, um, then

King of Queens, then Everybody Loved

Raymond, then Friends, uh, no, sorry,

Frasier.

>> Same four shows.

>> Yeah, I love it.

>> Oh my god. Cheers.

>> Oh my god. How good is

>> Cheers?

How good is that show? Oh,

>> it's so good. Ted Dansson at his hottest

best

>> and the and and um Sam and Diane the I

mean actually there's a we'll get to

your film The Roses, but there's a lot

of that kind of like that kind of back

and forth reparte of I love you, I hate

you, I love you. So satisfying,

>> so good.

>> And when they kissed for the first time

and millions watched.

>> I know. And and also that

>> lovely Woody. I loved Woody and he and

and and Woody who had the hardest job in

the world cuz he took over

>> for coach who

>> Oh yes, of course.

>> Yes. Who was an amazing character,

>> sadly passed away year one or two and

you thought, well, they're just can't

cover that.

>> And then they bring in Woody

>> who just crushes it. And then the pilot

of Cheers, if you've ever read, is just

a perfectly written pilot and we and me

and Mike Sher, the creator of Parks and

Rec, used to talk about it all the time

cuz you have like seven characters you

have to, you know, service really fast

basically.

>> And it's such a good pilot. I love that

joke.

>> Oh my god, I've got to watch the pilot.

I'm going to find it.

>> It's so good. And the ending of Cheers.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. I Everyone loves Raymond Frasier

and what was the other one?

>> King of Queens. King of Queens.

>> Yeah.

>> And you're like, what is this queens?

What what do I need to know?

>> I've got no idea what that is,

>> but he is king of it.

>> Yeah. There was so there was a few

things that came over to us, but not a

lot. You know, it took me and and sketch

was one

>> like I didn't know about French and

Saunders until 10 years after, you know,

then everyone same like funny people and

I was meeting funny people

>> and they were talking about shows that I

like had to research. But I just think

it's very interesting because

>> that we're we are we are so alike but

our comedy was very specific and

different. We had the um premiere last

night in New York of the Roses and then

we got the London premiere on Thursday

and lots of I wonder if audiences will

laugh at different things and I feel

like that's not true anymore.

>> I agree. Maybe. Yeah,

>> I don't think that's true.

>> No, I think we all totally understand

each other and we'll find the same [ __ ]

funny.

>> We were laughing. We were we when we

were preparing for this interview, we

were saying like how

>> you know it is true. We believe that the

Brits are smarter. They just sound

smarter.

>> Yeah, they do.

>> It's not true.

>> I know. And you know what taught us?

Love Island.

>> I've said that's the first time I've

ever been grateful to Love Island.

>> They taught us that

>> cuz I can see people look disappointed

when I open my mouth and I go, "Oh, see

you think I'm clever. I'm really not."

But thank god Love Island.

>> Yeah, Love Island really leveled the

playing field. We were like, I see.

Okay, we're all the same. We're all the

same.

But a show that I've since now seen that

I didn't know at the time was Bruiser,

>> which was like your first

>> Have you seen Bruiser?

>> Well, I've seen clips of Bruiser.

>> Okay.

>> But Bruiser was like your first sketch

show.

>> First ever job. My first job.

>> First ever job.

>> And that was How old were you? What

year?

>> It was my last year of drama school. I

have a weird thing where I can't do

dates.

>> Same.

>> So I know I did my A levels in 1992

because I had to say it so often.

>> Yeah.

>> But I beyond that I'm not entirely sure

what happened. So, in the '9s,

>> in the '90s,

>> comes out.

>> Yes.

>> And it's you and and David and

>> David Mitchell, Rob Webb, Martin

Freeman.

>> Yeah, that's right.

>> Charlotte Hudson.

>> And that's just like sketches and you're

all look like babies and you're all

doing like

>> Yeah, I go I haven't seen it. I I bet

lots of it's terrible.

>> Well, sketches.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, badly. like the batting

averages, you have just like hope for a

couple of winners. Like

>> Mitch Web have just done a new sketch

show and sketch shows just haven't

happened for a long time.

>> I know. I know. I know. I think about

that a lot. I mean, for me, the best

last sketch show other than SNL that

I've seen is Key and Peele. Did you

watch Key and Peele?

>> My boys were talking about that.

>> I think that that the Brits don't know

about Key and Peele as much, but that

was a big show over here.

>> Um, and they were just like deeply funny

and good. like they were really really

>> going to find them.

>> Um okay. And so then um Okay. But then

>> there's this there's all this stuff you

do between

>> you know broad church basically. There's

all this stuff because that broad church

for us is really I think when we really

start to get to know you. I remember you

from your little moment in the office

because I the UK office because I was

obsessed with UK office and and the and

the um the picture moment with David and

just and with with Ricky but we get to

really know you and you and David at the

same time.

>> Oh yeah, lovely DT.

>> Lovely. Tell me about your relation. You

guys are buddies.

>> Oh, I love David Penant.

>> I know. He seems so I'd love to meet

him.

>> Nice. You love him.

>> Tell me why he's so great. He is

there's nothing assholy about him at

all.

>> And he we simply just would sit and talk

about we do farts in the police car and

he'd go Jesus Christ

and and he was just like a buddy and

we'd tell stories and he he wanted to be

at home with his no wife and family and

I wanted to be at home. Yes. Isn't it

the best when you work with people who

want to be at home?

>> Yeah.

>> Get this done. Get it done early. You're

not afraid. You get home. Get [ __ ] off

about home.

>> And

also he was so always knew his lines was

always on it. Always just just beautiful

at his fingertips. And then uh you know

when the ad comes to knock on the door I

could we both we had a two two-way it's

not as rude as it sounds you know the uh

van with but also our lose were back to

back and I going to go David are you in

there go stop listening to me

I'm doing the same with you and um but

when the ad would come and knock on door

say it's time we would try and race each

other he would always didn't want to

delay anyone he was never late

and just gorgeous. Everybody loved him,

but just real. And

>> it it proves my point, Olivia. I've said

before, I find that for the most part,

with the exception of a few eccentric

original performers,

>> the most talented people are often the

most professional. Like, they're the

easiest to work with.

>> And I've been so lucky to work with two

of my gods, Merrill Stre and Anthony

Hopkins. They never would have kept

anyone waiting. Yes.

>> And then you learn from that you go see.

>> No. And they set such a tone.

>> Yes.

>> They know they are polite to everyone.

They know everyone's name. They know

their job. They know their lines.

They're always on time.

>> I I mean I have a in any profession I do

have a theory that like people that are

acting out of fear or afraid that this

is their last good idea or that you know

it a lot of people act out for a lot of

reasons. Yeah. But

>> and I do understand that.

>> I do too. And as I get older also people

just work differently. But the

professional part

>> when you meet some your hero and they

also are that way. It's just the best.

>> It's so important.

>> Yeah.

>> And just a friend recently did a show

and I don't want to sort of

>> there are some of the younger people.

>> Yes.

>> Who I I don't know where it comes from

but um

>> if they have a little bit of a cold they

won't do the show.

>> Oh.

>> And I don't understand.

>> Right.

>> When we were told

>> this is very Gen X of us. You know that

>> I'm I'm aware that I am doing that.

>> Same. Which is the way. And people

>> think it's their fault, but someone has

told them wrong.

>> Well, okay, let's get into this because

no,

>> I'm going to be cancelled.

>> No, I agree. And I'm trying to work on

it because here are the two things.

>> I think that we were sold a productivity

myth.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. Like hustle, hustle, hustle.

Yeah.

>> And it's really ingrained in us. Like

there's no way I would have ever called

in sick. I mean, I remember doing a

scene with Alec Baldwin for a movie and

I had like 104 temperature and I had we

had to cry

>> and I was like I I was on another planet

and he was like where wherever you are

stay there perfect and I was like I am

in I'm in a fever dream. I have 104 and

I remember just being completely but

never in a million years ever would I

>> in retrospect potentially maybe was a

day to not be

>> potentially Yeah. potentially not a good

choice.

>> Yeah. So, I kind of understand that this

idea of like maybe take care of

yourself, Gen Xers, a little bit more

than you did and not pressure everybody

to hustle.

>> But perhaps we've overcorrected.

>> I think there's a happy medium, isn't

there?

>> Agree.

>> But a little bit of a of a tickle in in

the back and you go, I don't think I

can. That's I don't think that's okay.

>> Yeah.

>> I've had pneumonia twice. Never missed a

day of work while filming.

>> Okay.

>> But also potentially stupid.

>> You've had pneumonia while filming?

Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. You're my kind of

gal.

>> Thank you. I never missed one day of

work on Parks and Wreck. I did 120

shows.

>> [ __ ] yeah.

>> And that's weird. And people think

that's a weird statistic because they're

like, well, okay, maybe maybe not

something to brag about. And I'm like,

is it not?

>> I think it is.

>> I agree. But perhaps I was setting an

example that was, you know, there's

there's there's Both are true. Both are

true.

>> But I know what you mean. I love I just

love a pro. I love a nice pro.

>> Yeah.

>> Because a working environment should be

>> It's just hard enough to just do life.

It's hard enough to do life without

somebody being difficult. And

>> yeah,

>> and we're lucky to have the work beyond,

>> you know. Don't don't be sort of overly

cocky with that.

>> Yes. Agree. and Broad Church.

>> I It makes sense to me that you and

David loved each other because you can

really feel it in the show.

>> Like it's just you feel like true

partners in that show.

>> Yeah. And even though in the show you're

getting to be partners, but

>> there was a such a m a feeling of mutual

respect on on that. It was so good.

>> And what was it like to have that blow

up? It was a huge hit.

>> Yes, that was very odd. I because no one

knew who had done it. That was what they

wanted. Although when I went for my

first audition, my sort of meet meet

with the producers and I said, "Who did

it?" And they told me and I went, "Oh."

And cried and they went, "That's great.

That's what you want." And then um in on

the way home, like 20 minutes after I'd

left, they phoned and went, "Uh, can you

pretend that we didn't tell you? We've

realized we don't want anyone to know.

We wanted to

>> I went, "Oh, okay." So I had to lie. And

David was so crafty of me. One day his

agent accidentally let slip right near

the end of months of filming and he flew

onto my van. I went, "You [ __ ] didn't

tell me." And I knew what he meant and I

couldn't look at him.

>> Oh, cuz he didn't know either.

>> They didn't know. No one knew. But they

accidentally told me.

>> You knew. What a burden to carry.

>> Faces, you know, all the um 10 by8 faces

in the makeup van and everyone was

putting a sticker on who they thought it

was. And I was also going, "Is it that

might be me? Uh am I trying to terrible

at lying?"

>> Wow. So you you were reading the scripts

in real time basically and Oh, that's

very fun.

>> It was really fun.

>> And what a great way to be able to

>> and and kind of what a bummer that you

knew because you we would have been, you

know, like everyone else, but you had

that secret.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, that's fun.

>> It was fun.

>> Oh, that's good.

>> But David Yeah. said, "You can't believe

you didn't tell me."

>> And uh and you're like, "I'm a pro,

babe. I'm a pro."

>> Also, I I'd lied so much I'd almost

forgotten that I knew.

Do you think you would be good um

convincing uh are you a good liar? Like

do you think you'd be uh Yeah.

>> Without a script? I'm appalling.

>> Yeah. You they can

>> I don't know. I think I'm okay. Like I

think sometimes could I convince a jury

like if I

>> Oh, wow. That's an excellent

>> Could you convince I feel like I could

convince a jury

>> that you didn't do it?

>> Yes.

>> I feel like

>> as long as my kids weren't in the jury,

I think I'd be fine.

>> Your kids would know. They go, "You

totally did it."

>> Do you have a tell when you lie? I I'm

sure I do, too. I'd like someone to tell

me what it is so I can work on it. But I

think I overexlain.

>> I think I say too many things.

>> Oh, you know when you watch traitors?

>> Yes.

>> Oh, I love it when I love it when they

ask someone something, they go, "What?"

They have to

>> They say what? They're stalling.

>> They Yeah. And they do it

subconsciously. It's amazing.

watch any of those body language things

where they show, you know, if you look

up to the right

>> or one's one's recalling information,

one's lying.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. I can't

>> or if you touch your face or like your

neck. I know. If you touch your neck,

it's cuz you're about to say a lie. All

these kind of Yeah. All these small

things. I That is I love when people

stall when you go

>> What did you say? Yeah. Love it.

>> I'm so sorry.

What?

>> Didn't hear you.

>> But I also get sweaty when you have to

play those games. Like if you ever play

that game Mafia.

>> Oh yeah.

>> I don't like that game. I love it.

>> You love it?

>> I love it.

>> Okay. Because we play it almost every

night on holiday.

>> And um we've discovered as well any

parents that get killed uh it's always

their kids that have done it. Always.

>> Or spouse.

>> Yeah. And uh

>> yeah,

>> one family that we go on Hollywood with

every year, their kids are terrifying at

it.

>> Really good.

>> Oh my god. So good. And the the youngest

one got so cross with everyone accusing

her that we went of course she's not

she's she was overexplaining. She's

doing what you say. Yes.

>> Just I'm not literally I had to move

because really angry and she's only 13.

She was we oh god no probably not. Just

maybe don't give her a chance. She was

absolutely killing everyone.

>> She was like that at night when everyone

had their eyes closed. Amazing.

I get very stressed. I get very giggly

when I get accused and very stressed

>> and also

I feel I feel like I maybe I feel like I

act the same when I'm the murderer or

not, but I must not. But I I don't think

I would pass a lie detector test. Let me

just say that.

>> I don't think I would.

>> I would. My heart would beat.

>> Yeah.

>> But I think I could I could win over a

jury.

>> Yeah. I think I would say, "Ladies and

gentlemen of the jury, why would I want

to kill my spouse

or whatever

>> now?" And I'd be able to cry. You're a

good crier and and you love to cry.

>> I do.

>> It's one of my one of my great skills.

>> Well, in everyday life, I don't cry so

much.

>> Um, do you have any you have tricks for

crying?

>> No. If it's sad, I'll cry.

>> Yeah.

>> If the script is sad. So, broad church.

Yeah. come. Um, yeah, that first day it

was filmed chronologically, which was

just a gift.

>> Amazing.

>> But they they were saying, "No, she's a

police officer. She's probably a little

harder than that one." Like, absolutely.

There's no way. It's just I'm sorry. I

can't a child. And so, oh, making me

that um if it's good script, it's

impossible not to.

>> But in your life, you're not the biggest

crier

>> really. Oh, in the crown as well, there

was this because the queen famously is

was able to be there for other people

and not cry and I couldn't do it.

>> There's a scene where Helen Bonum Carter

is telling me about Abberavan which is

was a terrible terrible thing that

happened and I couldn't hear her. Yeah,

it was beautifully done but I couldn't

hear her talking about it without crying

and they kept going okay no

>> no crying no I can't. So the sound

department gave me an earpiece and I

listened to the shipping forecast.

[Music]

So in the in my ear I was hearing south

at Sura, north at Sura, weather for

third middling and I was just listening

to that and zoning out while Helena said

I can't believe our first scene together

and you're not actually listening to me.

>> Wow.

>> And it's really that's a good tip

though.

>> That's a great tip.

>> Listen to something else. Don't listen

to your actor. I mean, I always say half

of acting is like just keeping your face

still, which is almost impossible for me

to do, but

>> Botox helps enormous in that kind of

>> but the way in which everyone just

projects everything on your still face.

>> You and Helena in The Crown are I mean,

so wonderful. And I know you've you're

really good friends, too.

>> And did you meet on that?

>> Yeah. You had never worked together

before.

>> No.

>> I think we'd met once at a do

>> Mhm. and I'd sort of curtsied to her and

uh and yeah, she's she's just lovely.

>> I mean, I know people have asked about

meeting the queen and and playing the

queen, but separate from the actual

queen, the character of that woman.

Yeah.

>> Is so interesting.

>> I know. Fascinating. you know, forget,

you know, I know you're playing

a version of of of real person and

you're playing a real person,

>> but just the the the legacy of that just

one just the idea of one life.

>> Yeah.

>> Spanning that much.

>> Yeah.

>> It's so amazing. It's I totally agree.

It's an extraordinary that literally

Well, most people there's someone else

in the world who has a similar

experience. No one.

>> No one. That's one person standing on

their own.

>> I know.

>> Sitting every week to various prime

ministers, you know, listening to them,

having the

>> hearing everything.

>> And just having to keep it together.

>> It's such a practice in restraint, just

a life of restraint. And and also to

your point, being around while everyone

else comes and goes,

>> being the constant while

>> I mean, I loved the way that that show

took on the width and breadth of that

life. the crown. That person is the

crown.

>> And the way you take it from Claire that

you take over that moment when you show

up in season two, three, four,

>> two, three, and four. Yeah.

>> When you show up and we think, "Oh my,

Olivia is now the queen." Like,

>> it's exhilarating.

>> Terrifying following on from Cla.

>> Was it?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I loved it. It was so

highly advertised that I didn't want to

like it

>> in that sort of

>> Totally. Yeah, everyone likes it. Oh,

okay. No thanks.

>> And then I accidentally watched it with

one eye open went, "Oh, no. I love it.

Love

>> so good."

>> Couldn't stop watching her.

>> Mhm.

>> And so then got the got a call to they

would like to meet you for I think my

agent said for the queen and I thought

that was the play that and oh and she

said, "No, no, I didn't mean that. I

didn't mean that. Meant the crown." And

I and I went, "Oh my god, yeah, [ __ ]

yeah. Absolutely. Yes, please." I said,

"I think you're not meant to say that

yet." You meant to just go away and play

cool. Put your sunglasses on.

>> Yeah. Trying to be cool. But um I was

such a huge fan of it.

>> Yes. Yes. And

>> also it came at the point where I just

spent all my tax money. So really handy.

>> And um did you uh did you talk to

Claire?

>> Did you talk to Claire? Were you did you

two talk about like handing off the tor,

you know, handing

>> So it might be a good idea if you want

to we can give you Cla's number. Yeah.

And so I I did speak to Cla and said,

"Really, honestly, truthfully, because

it's a long commitment, long job." Um,

and she went, "I've absolutely [ __ ]

loved it.

>> It's a happy job

>> and everyone's nice."

>> Yes.

>> Okay, that's great.

>> I mean, there is a whisper network among

actresses, especially, I think, when

you're going to try to take a job, when

you're lucky enough to have the choice

to take a job,

>> where you call other people to say,

>> "Should I?

>> Is this okay?" I love that code as well.

And amongst we do go I

>> or or there's a

>> the word tricky.

They can be tricky. Uh I got on quite

well with them but I know that some

other people. So sort of politely

letting you know

>> maybe this isn't a simple decision.

>> Another code is like well the hours can

be kind of long which is a code for the

director's a little unorganized. Yeah.

>> Like I think that's

>> and the scripts aren't ready.

>> Yeah. And the scripts can come in a

little late

>> and I cried a few times, but um as far

as the job. Yeah. Um and Helena and you

I just I just want to stay there for one

second because

>> I love watching you work with everyone,

but I especially love watching you work

with other

super talented women and you've worked

with a lot of really great women.

>> Been really lucky. Yeah.

>> You just who you when you meet each

other on screen.

>> I love women. Me, too.

>> I mean, I It's honestly hard to work

with men.

>> I'm so sorry. I'm sure it was easy with

Benedict, but like

>> I mean, we have to, but [ __ ]

>> I know.

>> It's hard,

>> Bessam. They're just not as good.

They're

>> just not as good.

>> So true. But I do too. I love working

with women and I can tell you do too.

>> Who are some women that you've worked

with that you just went Helen? I'm sure

is one, but like who that you just

worked with and you said, "Oh, I'm going

to have the best time." I think Jodie

Whitaker on Broad Church, Helena on the

Crown,

>> and Marian who played the Queen Mother

on the Crown, just

>> loved her.

>> Loved her.

>> Um, almost I always take a a good

girlfriend with me from almost every

job.

>> What do you mean?

>> Like who?

>> Uh,

well, Hely. Jodie is now godmother to my

youngest. We had our youngest at the

same time while on Broad Church.

>> And uh, Phoebe. Phoebe Wbridge. um and

Amy Morgan who you probably won't have

heard of but I think she's extraordinary

and we met doing a play and so there's

always one and on the roses there's Zoe

Sunnita.

>> Yes.

>> I mean Allison

>> Jenny and and

>> Kate McKinnon I'm we have Kate coming in

and Kate is such an

>> Is she coming in?

>> She's coming to do this day while I'm

here.

>> It is.

>> Are you lying? You're not lying. But

you're not you're going to be you're not

going to be here and she's you're not

going to make you wait for Kate because

we have a little bit of a you know you

got to get on that plane.

>> But you can leave you want to leave a

note for her.

>> Yeah. She's coming in today. Okay.

>> And um she's so Isn't she such a wild

interesting eccentric bird?

>> She came so we had a girls trip to to

where I live in the countryside in

England while we were fil filming and

Kate came along. She's the most fun

grown-up you've ever met. My daughter

couldn't believe her luck.

>> Yes, she is fun.

>> She's fun. And she played she was a I

think um a pee hen or something for

about three hours.

So [ __ ] hell.

It's amazing.

My little girls going.

Um Phoebe Flea Bag huge. Another huge

show.

>> Yeah.

>> And well, I mean she's an amazing woman

and she

No, she's brilliant at what she does and

she works hard and she's really driven

and kind to everybody and yeah, just

another [ __ ] fantastic woman.

>> Yeah.

>> And that first episode of the second

season of uh Flea Bag, which was with

Andrew Scott and sitting around the

dining the that restaurant table.

>> Yes.

>> Felt like the most brilliant play.

>> Yes.

>> And just that whole episode, one one

dinner scene. M uh I just I love the way

she writes.

>> Yeah.

>> And she gives everybody

>> so many good. You have so also so many

good jokes in that show. Great jokes.

>> That character is hilarious and and

deeply disturbing.

>> Yeah. I mean

>> and I got it wrong initially. I was uh

playing her sort of quite evil

>> and um I was like, "It's not what you

meant, is it?" She went, "Well, she's

the most charming person in any room.

She'll be vile to you and you sort of

>> keep sort of think sort of being

grateful for the you know she

>> it's so vile.

>> I mean it's like Yeah. She's she's like

an the ultimate narcissist.

>> And when you're that way, you're usually

quite charming. Yeah.

>> Yeah. You're not usually like there's a

way in which you draw people in and then

you

>> slowly kill them. Um, and then the the

the the before we get to the roses, I

just I I feel like there was this

beautiful couple of years I where

America

said

>> I've just realized I just said how much

I love what women and I've just done a

film with Benedict as well.

>> Well, but Benedict feels like he's

sensitive enough that he counts.

>> Oh my god, he does. He really does. I

feel awful that I loved working with

Benedict.

>> Well, we're going to talk about working

with Benedict. He's going to be fine.

Okay, good. Great.

>> Benedict can handle it.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And Andy was I love Andy.

>> Andy's fine.

>> And Jamie.

>> Of course, you love all the people. They

know. They do love the people.

>> They know. Um,

>> sorry to interrupt.

>> No. No. Not at all. But I'm not worried

about Benedict.

>> Okay. Okay. Good.

>> He's so tall. We don't have to worry

about him.

>> No, he'll he'll be fine.

>> He will be fine.

>> Yeah.

But no, but but we will talk about that

because but there was this like amazing

couple of years where we got to see a

lot of work being congratulated when you

won that award when you won the Academy

Award, right? And you've won a lot of

awards. And what I loved about that

moment was what I felt in that moment

and tell me if I'm wrong is that you

probably feel about awards

the same way I feel about awards which

is like lovely but but like also who

cares.

>> Yeah. I don't that's awkward things.

Yeah. I

>> Okay, maybe I should say it less

bluntly. Like

>> well I I feel like oh my god it's it is

the most lovely if your peers have said

yes seal of approval. There's nothing

better.

>> Yes.

>> But I think also give yourself uh a a

few days to feel pretty thrilled with

yourself and then

>> then forget it ever happened.

>> Go back to work.

>> That's right.

>> Yeah. It was amazing and it might never

happen again and weren't you lucky and

now head down. I find that Brits in

general accept awards really well

because they do just that is which they

like kind of like stay in the moment and

say thank you and they're very polite

but also you can tell they're like I

can't let I can't internalize this or

I'm in trouble.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> It is a little bit more American to be

like I made it to the top of the

mountain and I'm here and I'm never

getting off and I knew it and I and I

got it and I went went for it. But

they're completely different feelings.

But that your speech was do you have a

you know I know it's hard to like think

about yourself and talk about yourself.

It's always hard to talk about yourself.

>> But do you have a do you have a sense of

why that speech was so wellreceived. It

just was this like everyone felt very um

with you in that moment. It felt like

really organic. What was your memories

of getting up and giving that speech and

you know like being inside of it? What

did it feel like?

>> So much I don't really remember. Um but

just beforehand I in the buildup to it

in the months the buildup people going

kept saying Oscars and I go stop it and

I would got furious it was all too scary

terrifying don't be ridiculous and uh

and then on the evening like 20 minutes

before we were meant to go my husband

went don't be cross but just in case

I've just put some notes on a piece of

paper and he went out and just [ __ ]

wanker [ __ ] okay that's quite good

things okay so he just said just

remember if it happens to to know say

this or say that say thank you and and

um so it was that I would have

>> well I'm stuttering now you I would have

been so useless it was absolutely real

and shocking but if it wasn't for him

just just take just take five minutes

just in case

>> to think about it I know

>> writer producer director he he took care

of you

>> hottie

>> general hottie and also the moment you

guys had was so sweet I mean you you

have a wonderful long-lasting marriage

with Ed and you met at where did you

meet?

>> In the town of Cambridge.

>> He was at Cambridge.

>> Olivia's crying a little bit.

>> Yeah.

>> You love Ed. He's your best friend. You

called him your best friend. I love

>> He's my best friend and I fancy him.

He's quite nice.

>> Love. Okay. How did you meet?

>> You have his name.

>> I do have his name. It's a bit like he's

pissed on me that it was my choice.

>> He just stamped it on me.

>> Okay. How did you meet?

>> We met in a play uh uh rehearsal. Um he

and

>> I'd gone to two of the rehearsals and

there was no one particularly fancable

there. I think and then I walked in and

I saw his left hand profile and at the

time uh he was smoking a Ziggy. His feet

were crossed and he's got this lovely

bump in his nose and I saw his side

profiles. Went,

>> oh god, I'm gonna marry him.

>> No,

>> proper thunderbolts. That's him. That's

him.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh,

>> I know. Poor thing. He didn't know.

>> And what does he say about it the first

time he met you?

>> Uh, he he genuinely can't remember.

>> That's so great. I mean, what's I mean,

what is the secret to a long-lasting

relationship? Any any tips, any advice?

>> I don't know.

>> You're making a movie about the opposite

of that.

>> Yes, that's true. Well, it's our 25th

wedding anniversary next year.

>> Wow.

>> We've been together 31 years.

>> Wow.

>> Um

uh we I don't think it's We're not big

fighters, which apparently isn't very

healthy.

>> Okay. Can we talk about this for a

second? I agree. I've see a lot of uh

research that says you really should

argue and fight.

Okay. Like it feels so like like what if

you're not I mean I I I don't I'm not

afraid of conflict but I don't

necessarily like want to search it out.

And

>> yeah, I I don't want people that argue

>> and I do think that

>> it is okay. We we have learned over the

years, but really late on actually to um

sometimes if that was annoying

>> then just wait until it's

>> uh it doesn't work for everyone. I know

that. And uh

>> but we I I think it's better to wait

till the much calmer moment to go can we

talk about that moment? And I did find

that a little weird. And is that okay

that I'm saying this? And yes, no. Yeah,

I was a bit cross that day and Okay. But

okay, I'm so pleased. Thank you. So, you

know, um

>> that by far that's the most British

conversation I've ever heard.

>> Yeah. Nothing actually talking.

>> Maggie Gyllenhaal stood when we did the

lost daughter and beautiful movie.

>> Ed, different Ed was the costume

designer and me. He's English and I'm in

English and he was talking about a hat

and he said I I left the hat out. I

didn't know if he I went, "Oh, I see. I

But I didn't know if did you want me to

wear it now?" And but if you like it.

No, I do like it. I just wondering

because it's um and this went on for 20

minutes. And Maggie at the time it was

co she took a mask down and went,

>> "Oh my god." Like nothing has been said.

20 minutes.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. And I'd never realized it before

that moment when she just

>> Yeah. So that's how we argue. M and and

okay, so it leads me re really naturally

into the film that um that's out right

now with the great Benedict Cumberbatch.

And um what a pro, what a pro. And you

know, so I ask people before these um

podcasts to give me a question to ask my

guests and we speak well behind their

back like I said and and he was, you

know, of course he's like absolutely

adores you and you guys have never

worked together before which is really

interesting. Um and

>> like you I think he's able to he's shown

that he's able to toggle between a bunch

of different styles and genres. Also, it

makes me think sometimes that

uh you know there maybe it's a bit more

uh licensed to do do that in the in in

the UK than the US. I don't know.

>> Well, to go between drama and

>> maybe I'm thinking about it now because

>> you know Emma Thompson and and Kathy

Burke and we do have a line of well I'm

just thinking of the women but we do

have a long line of of people who've

been allowed to do both. Well, I

remember people talking about Hugh Lori

in house and he was like, you know, Hu

Lori started in sketch

>> comedy. Sketch comedy.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Um but um he was asking me, he asked a

very like sweet actor question, which is

basically like he is in awe of you and

what you can do and he was like, "Is

there anything you're afraid of

acting wise?"

>> Well, I couldn't really tell.

>> Oh,

>> I couldn't really tell what he was what

the question was. And but let's say

sure. I would say acting wise.

>> Uh, anything where I have to show any

skin.

>> Mhm.

>> I don't like it.

>> No, thank you.

>> I don't think or pretending to have sex

with someone. I don't like it.

>> I don't like it.

>> I feel like I'm being unfaithful and it

just feels a bit

>> Yeah.

>> Even when they go, you can wear your

jeans or and a cushion between you. I

don't want to do that. Is that what I

don't know? I don't know.

>> No. The or the the on. And by the way,

bless the people that are good at it.

The people that are good at it, I'm

like, I'll watch it all day long.

>> Yeah.

>> And they're comfy, but Oh, and on screen

orgasm.

>> No, absolutely not.

>> Like that's that's what you have to do

that day. Like that's that's tough.

>> Thank god for um intimacy coordinators.

>> Absolutely.

>> EA O'Brien who is she told me and I was

meant to orgasm. Oh,

God. How do you do that? said, "Imagine

the sun is hitting your face."

>> That was great.

>> So, just be given a Yes.

>> And you just go like this.

>> Yeah.

>> You just You go, "Oh my god." You just

take your put your sunglasses on. You

go.

>> You should have done it like that.

>> Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, you got

your you got your answer. You got your

answer. But what was it like working

with him on the on the film? I loved

working with him and he's he sort of

feels like one of life's innocents in a

way, you know, uh because we um we had

such fun, but when it started to get a

little bit more cruel to each other, he

did go we could pause for a minute. Are

we okay?

Yes, Ben, it's pretend. It's all okay.

And you know, he get he's he's so in it

and

>> yes,

>> it's just lovely. But I felt like I

wanted to hold his hand a lot and go,

>> "It's it's all we're good. We're still

friends." And

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. And and

>> it's lovely to work opposite him because

he's absolutely feeling it. It's all

instant.

>> I bet. I I mean, even just seeing the

way in which you the two watching the

two of you spar is is really exciting

because it's two very good actors going

really hard. And plus there's just a ton

of like dumb physical stuff which is so

fun. Do you like doing that?

>> No.

>> No. Me neither. I don't I don't want to.

I'm not very physical.

>> I don't want any running. Yeah. I don't

want to.

>> But he is really good at that, which is

great. So, I just had the gun and he

just ran around.

>> And you're like, I think my character

would sit.

>> Yeah. Um, and then Jay Roach.

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Isn't he a delight? The director. I love

him.

>> He I love him. And I felt bad for him

every day because it was like trying to

nail jelly to the wall, trying to get us

all to stop giggling or stop

>> doing bits and joking. Also, he how

often does he hit his head?

>> Oh, because he's so tall.

>> Well, he wears a hat as well. He doesn't

see the booms and the lights. And the

crew ended up hanging sticky tape down

from everything so that he was he still

did it

>> 15 times a day. Oh,

>> it's got to be some kind of

psychological thing that he's doing.

>> He can't get across with us. He doesn't

say about things.

>> And then, okay, we talked about Kate.

You worked with Andy.

>> Okay. The movie is out. Okay. Okay. And

then my last question is

that I ask everybody and it's kind of

like a like the the reason why I'm I try

started doing this podcast genuinely was

like to try to I don't know make sense

of this wicked world and find some

solace in what everybody was doing to

keep themselves

laughing. Um, what do you watch, read,

do? What's making you laugh right now

today? Big or small? Uh,

a a you know, a a person, a video, a a

show, old or new, that you go to?

>> The the thing that makes me laugh more

than anything, belly laugh, which

doesn't happen often enough, is watching

my husband fall over or hit his head.

>> On purpose or by accident?

>> By accident. I

>> you just love an accent.

>> It literally makes me go weak. I

clapped. It's so

>> Did you ever watch America's Funniest

Home Videos?

>> Have you ever seen that show?

>> Oh, that's the sort of

>> Standby. Just one second before you go.

We're going to get you on recently where

people just lie down with the Have you

seen this?

>> So, I'm turn around and Ed's lying down.

You just see his head there and and

people go what? And they film. Oh,

that's that's gorgeous. You love. Do you

like being pranked?

>> I've got to do that, haven't I? Film it.

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Don't tell him. Don't tell him.

>> Do you like Do you like being pranked?

>> No.

>> Okay.

>> No. If someone makes me jump, I will

punch them in the face.

>> Me, too. I don't like being surprised. I

am not people get a tiny bit hurt.

>> Yeah.

>> But they're fine, right? They have to

jump.

>> As long as they're fine as long as

they're okay. I don't If it looks like

Oh, god. That looks like

>> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

>> Fun.

>> Okay, let's watch just two minutes of

this and we're going to let you go.

ever. Ever. I mean, I know what you

mean. Okay. These kind of things. Do I

need my glasses?

>> We're watching America's Funniest Home

Videos.

>> What's that person doing?

>> That person's That person's stuck in the

ceiling. So, that person doing something

and there and she she's stuck in the

ceiling.

>> Okay, that might have been too hard a

fall. Have you seen Have you seen the

two women trying to get into the window?

>> Oh, yeah. Oh god.

>> Oh, I want her. That That is

>> Let's watch the two women get trying to

get in the window.

>> Yes,

>> that is so

>> And the other one is no help at all

outside clearly trying not to piss

herself going.

>> Yeah. When they start want to wet

themselves up and they start laughing

>> that does two women trying to get into a

window. Okay, here we go. Okay. Okay,

let's watch. Here we go. Here we go.

Okay, they're trying to get in the

window and one of them is giving the

other one a foot up.

>> Wearing the right clothes for this. We

know that, won't we?

>> She's wearing a She's both barefoot

here.

>> Her shirt comes off. That's right. Her

shirt comes off. So, she's upside down

with these boobs, which are now facing

that way. and her mate

>> and her and her gloves come off and

they're dying laughing. I mean, this is

the kind of thing that Benny Hill told

me would happen when I and it did

happen. It actually happened.

>> Oh my god, it's that's I love that.

>> I do too. There's no there's no better

feeling. And that makes me want to watch

that again.

>> And hearing them weak, you know, when

you can't speak.

>> Oh, yes. and knowing that one person is

peeing

>> right their pants.

>> And if the upside down woman was also

peeing,

>> well, Olivia, I love you. I love that

you came. Thank you so much for coming

in what I know is is a press day. And um

if you want to leave a note for Kate,

let me know.

>> Oh, yes, please. And um

>> has Kate seen that?

>> I'm going to show it. She would enjoy

that. She's like, she probably she

probably is like

>> I reenacted it.

>> I was going to say she probably

Thank you so much. I love

>> Thank you for having me. I want you to

come and stay.

>> Okay. Can I come to your house, please?

Thank you. Okay, great.

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Olivia and Dakota are so great together.

It's such a meditation on motherhood. Um

Jesse Buckley is so good in it. And it's

just uh you know, it's just one of those

movies where you're like, damn,

those ladies are good at acting. That's

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