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Let me ask you a question,
where are you guys from?
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-San Diego.
-Yay.
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And what'd you do?
You drove here?
Why'd you drive here?
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-We wanted to see this.
-See it.
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Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill
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and Carrie Fisher
and Billy Dee Williams are here.
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When you watch the movies,
you can tell that they were made
by people who really cared
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about what they were doing.
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Seeing this part of it filmed,
and there's all of the props
around,
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and there's people
lying on the ground,
and it's all cruddy,
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but you know that they're
going to take it back
and put in the opticals,
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and it's going to be
totally different.
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-I mean, we're all--
-So there's a magic to that.
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-We're all in Tatooine
right now.
-Yeah.
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So it's terrific, you know.
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By the time all nine films
are done, it's gonna be
like, I mean, I don't--
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I'm afraid to see what you guys
are gonna come up with.
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It's gonna be amazing.
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I've always called it
a space fantasy,
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designed to be
a modern fairy tale.
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Hopefully it will, you know,
justify it as a series,
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make you say,
"Gee, what happens next?"
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The real satisfaction
will come out of completing
what we started out to do.
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And I don't think
there's been anything
quite like this, you know?
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A beginning,
a middle, and an end.
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It is the final chapter.
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It's the big finish.
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So, all stops are out,
and, uh, it's all go.
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Friends,
it's that time again.
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To Mr. J.J. Abrams,
I'd say a happy day
one on Star Wars: Episode IX.
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-Hip, hip--
- Hooray!
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-Hip, hip--
-Hooray!
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-Hip, hip--
-Hooray!
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Thank you, all, again.
Back to work.
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Today
is day one of Episode IX,
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and we're starting
on the Falcon,
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which is, uh,
incredibly surreal to be back.
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I never in a million years,
never thought I'd be back
on this set.
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I'm so excited.
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It's not remotely
what I'm sure it was like
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for the legacy actors
to come back at all.
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But it is a strange thing
to return to a place
that you have fond memories
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and feel like you got to do
something very special,
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and sort of dodged
a crazy bullet,
and was like, "I did it."
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And now to be back here
feels, uh, really weird.
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We came into that first movie
with a lot of trepidation.
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All of us knew
that we had this huge weight
on our shoulders.
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And now,
to have everybody coming back
and working together,
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it's kind of like
the family coming back together.
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I can't believe it.
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And that's made it really nice.
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We all know each other.
The crew are used to
each other...
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Oh, my gosh.
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And now to finish it off
with J.J. is a blessing,
you know?
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And so I just
get to enjoy my job.
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It's not just the end
of three movies,
it's the end of nine movies.
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There's a lot to consider,
but I couldn't be more grateful.
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And I couldn't be more comforted
by the company I'm in.
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I come to Star Wars
first and foremost as a fan.
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So I have extremely high
expectations.
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And the world of it
means so much to me
that I'm not easy on it.
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And so we haven't been easy
on ourselves.
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This is their creative faces.
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They're creatively trying
to come to a decision
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and they do faces like that
'cause that's what they do.
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It's how we create...
to kind of make
real Star Wars decisions.
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-Hey... do that thing where--
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What'd he say?
I'm gonna rewind this
and watch it.
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Every day we ask ourselves,
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"How do you end the story
that George Lucas started
so many years ago?"
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"How do you end this myth
that's become a myth
for the whole world?"
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- Rolling.
-Rolling.
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Moving. And we're flying.
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Set, and action.
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Action.
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The fun begins.
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How long
before you can make the jump
to light speed?
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Take a few minutes
for the navi-computer
to calculate the coordinates.
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A few minutes? Are you kidding?
At the rate they're gaining?
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Uh...
No, what is it?
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- "Traveling
through hyperspace..."
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Do you have to shoot this?
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Traveling through hyperspace
is like dusting--
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It ain't like
dusting crops, kid,
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without precise calculations,
we fly too close to a star...
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Then bounce
into a supermarket
and then--
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-Yeah.
-It'd be a hell of a mess.
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What's that?
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Watch-- We're losing
the deflector shields.
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Go strap yourselves in.
Be careful on the way out.
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Yeah, sure.
I'm taking it very cautiously.
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Okay, cut.
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You.
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Go away with that.
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- "Bounce too near
a supermarket"?
- What did you say?
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It's a righteous challenge,
you know?
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I think for the last movie
there is such expectation
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and such investment
in these characters.
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-Where are you skipping to, Poe?
-Scary places.
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Roll.
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Seeing Poe and Finn
and Chewie in the cockpit
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has been an extremely fun
and sweet start.
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And now we're doing
a quick test with Daisy.
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-It's so pretty, the thing.
It's so nice.
-Nice, huh?
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We're kind of
trying to finalize the look.
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I haven't seen it.
I mean, I saw the rough--
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-I like it.
-An outward reflection
of my inner soul.
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Um...
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Uh... What's going on?
How are you?
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I'm having a proper lack--
I couldn't sleep last night.
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It's been quite a long buildup
of freaking out.
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Yeah, it's nerve-racking.
I don't really know
how to describe it,
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but I feel more the expectation
of what people want
for the last chapter.
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I do remember what
my first week was like
because we were in Abu Dhabi.
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You're on Fatima
and then you look at the ship.
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It's sort of the same levels
of nerves, actually.
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There we go, that's better.
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So I remember it vividly.
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And the whole week was like
... and it was
both amazing and terrifying.
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I was doing
my walk along the desert,
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taking off my stormtrooper gear.
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There you go.
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It was very hot,
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and everything looked
very big to me.
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I was like,
"Why is this camera so big?"
Like, "Why everything is huge?"
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Um... But it was fun.
I was getting used to
a whole new world.
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When Oscar came in to audition,
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obviously I had the role before,
and Oscar hadn't done much--
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It was more
of a technicality.
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I mean, I, you know,
I wouldn't call it an audition--
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An audition.
More of a read.
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It was more of a--
But he read the scene,
and I was kind of like,
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"J.J., what are you doing, man?
It's him. Come on.
Let's stop wasting time, man."
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And it's nice to be able to
actualize that chemistry
that we had on that first read.
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Thanks for a great,
great first day back.
Thank you very much.
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We made it one day. Day one.
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It is my honor
to be the one to introduce
back to this universe...
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Mr. Billy Dee Williams.
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I am quite pleased about
this whole situation
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coming back
as an elder statesman.
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Will you die in the movie?
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Uh, no. Not yet, anyway.
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No, I understand they
want to carry this character on.
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Continue--
I think he's going to be
part of the heroes.
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Well, look at you.
A general, huh?
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You look damn good,
that's all I'm gonna say.
Let's do it.
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- And go, background.
- Action.
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I love the whole idea
of a movie like this,
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because it talks about
the classic question,
you know, about good and evil,
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and what prevails
and what doesn't prevail.
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-There's something to gawk at.
Billy Dee.
-Trust me.
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You said it, Chewie.
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One last time.
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- And sound speed.
-Thirty-eight apple. Take one.
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Could have used
your help out there.
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-How'd it go?
-Not well, actually.
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It is
the first movie that, you know,
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that, ostensibly,
this new generation
had to carry on their own.
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As the end of VIII
left the Resistance,
you know, in kind of pieces,
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they've set up camp quickly
with what they've been able
to resource and access.
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It's weird coming back
and kind of feeling this, like,
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earned confidence
of having done it before,
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but also knowing that there
are still going to be times
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when you're figuring things out,
and it's different and new
and scary.
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But you can get through it
with the people that
you're working with.
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-I love it.
-I liked it,
it was really good.
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Joonas coming through.
- Hurry up.
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Making J.J. laugh
is my number two priority,
you know?
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Get the shot, nail the acting,
make J.J. laugh.
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Go, background!
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The challenge
for the designers and for J.J.
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was to create an environment
that looks temporary
and sort of ad hoc,
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but also has a bit of
the soul of Star Wars in it.
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Looking amazing, guys.
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When I'm in there, I say,
"Gonk, gonk, gonk."
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Look straight, yeah, that's it.
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That's amazing,
really incredible.
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Bloody hell. How much you
lifting in the gym, bro?
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-We have a whole situation
in here, boy.
-Yeah, man.
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Put a microwave in,
a little TV on the side...
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-That's what I'm going for.
-Home sweet home.
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As we decided that we would link
this place with Leia's past,
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it all started to come together.
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Kevin has the idea
we could put the Blockade Runner
in the middle of the cave,
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and that's why
they're hiding out.
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That way, every time
you turn around, you're going
to see the Blockade Runner.
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The Blockade Runner
is the first ship
that you ever see in Star Wars,
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the ship that is running from
the Imperial Star Destroyer.
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It's the first time
we ever see Princess Leia.
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It was trying to link
this last film all the way back
with the very first film
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by saying, "This is
how we've introduced her,
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and this is how we finish
her journey within Star Wars. "
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Okay, guys. Walk away.
Quick, quick. Go, go.
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When we were doing VII,
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she knew that that movie
was very much Han's story.
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And then VIII
was very much Luke's.
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You know, the thing she had said
was that IX should be Leia's.
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Uh, and that's really something
that we've tried to do.
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We lost Carrie before
the movie began, so that was
our first discussion, really.
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It's, "How on earth do you tell
Episode IX without Leia?"
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We couldn't
let Leia not be in this story.
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Action.
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Rey.
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Leia is
extremely important
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as a part of the conclusion
of this saga,
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so we had to figure that out.
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May the Force be with you.
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One more time. That was great.
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I will probably always
be identified as this person.
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Vivien Leigh was always
Scarlett O'Hara
except to Olivier.
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I don't know.
I will probably be Princess Leia
till I'm 85 years old.
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Are you happy now?
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I give George huge credit
for creating Princess Leia.
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Certainly one of the feistiest
female heroines ever in cinema.
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You know,
in the fairy tales,
a princess is to be rescued,
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and she was far from
being a damsel in distress.
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Aren't you a little short
for a stormtrooper?
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Huh?
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She found both Han
and I incompetent.
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"You call this a rescue?
Give me those guns."
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It still makes me laugh.
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What the hell are you doing?
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Somebody has to save our skins.
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She's just authoritative
and just plows ahead,
it doesn't matter.
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"Let's go through this shower
of asteroids, who cares?"
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And my hair won't get messed up.
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So, uh... she's different from--
And I like her,
I like her independence.
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And I do wish that I had
a little bit more of,
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"Come on, let's
just walk through the traffic,
it doesn't bother me.
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It's not a, you know--
I won't get hurt,
there's a sequel."
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So, on that level,
I envy her. I admit it.
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I don't know that the luck,
the serendipity,
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of the fact that we had
this footage that we
didn't use in Episode VII,
234
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and, you know, really,
it meant a lot that it had been
J.J. there directing her,
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and he was confident
in partnership with his editors
and visual effects supervisor
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that we could use that footage
and it would be 100%
Carrie Fisher.
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Week one,
we were pulling dailies
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for them to start
writing a script
based on lines of performance
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that hadn't been used.
240
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And then Chris phoned me to say,
"We have this one line,
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how many takes do we have,
what is she doing,
how does she look,
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how does she say the line?"
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What I felt like with J.J.
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was he loved these films
in the same way
a lot of people do.
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They're part of your childhood.
246
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And so there's
a tremendous responsibility
to that.
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To this thing that he treasured.
248
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But he seemed completely
up for that.
249
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They had so much fun
on Force Awakens,
250
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and we all got along so well.
251
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It was actually my first movie
I ever did.
252
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This is my daughter,
the un-legacied,
the legacy of the legacy.
253
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I treat it incredibly
personally and I think
we all will, very carefully,
254
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to make sure that those scenes
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are both serving
a story purpose,
an entertainment purpose,
256
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but also honoring her
and the character,
257
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which is, you know,
a real point of this movie.
258
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Carrie was such
a wonderful, special person,
and I loved her dearly.
259
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And so,
there was a personal aspect
for all of us that knew her,
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but also,
technically, how to do it,
261
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and do it in a respectful,
seamless, clever way.
262
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Instead of trying to
integrate Carrie into a scene,
263
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we actually had Carrie
264
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and then we just built
the entire scene around her.
265
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We were initially
creating storyboards
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to be able to fill in
what the scene would be
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that wasn't
the actual Carrie footage
that we pulled from Episode VII.
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This mission is everything.
We cannot fail.
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Roger, Maryann and I
then cut the scenes together
270
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to demonstrate to J.J.
what it could be.
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Do me a personal favor?
Be optimistic.
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He could then visualize
conceptually,
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"Ah, well, we
definitely need these shots,
we don't need those shots."
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We were
able to recreate everything
275
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as faithfully
as it was on the day,
276
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building our movie around her.
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And so that involves
figuring out the staging
of the other characters as well.
278
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It's literally
like a gift from her,
279
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or her forcing us to make her
the star of the movie, but--
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Probably both.
281
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This is the first scene
that we're doing with Leia,
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and of course, we don't have
the most important person
with us.
283
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I would say, we should have
a moment of silence,
284
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but that's the last thing
that Carrie would stand for,
285
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um, so instead I will say,
286
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let's have every moment be one
of celebration for a woman
we loved,
287
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a character we
loved and admired.
288
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Thanks a lot. Thank you.
289
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The reality
of having to do a scene
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with someone
who isn't actually there...
291
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Yes, Master.
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...was very difficult.
293
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I sort of had to walk off
and have a moment.
294
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Being back has been incredible,
painful, surreal--
295
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All of the adjectives
that you can come up with,
probably, I felt.
296
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It was a hard day,
but it was a good day.
297
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We've had tears
and we've had, you know--
298
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-Laughter. Memories.
-Laughter. Yeah.
299
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And the fact that
there were so many people
around talking so fondly of her,
300
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and sharing
our memories of her.
301
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And with Billie, to
be able to listen to, you know,
how people think of her mum...
302
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-You know, it's--
-Amazing.
303
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There's no one
in the entire cast and crew
304
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that was more supportive
than Billie.
305
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And so, to know
that we were doing this with,
sort of, her at our side,
306
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that's something I'll just
always be grateful to her for.
307
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I'm so happy,
and she would be happy
that it's her movie too.
308
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We asked
some really exciting questions
at the beginning of this,
309
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as far as Leia's Force strength.
310
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Did she train as a Jedi?
311
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And the decision to
make her part of that story
312
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was a pretty exciting one to us.
313
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You see the saber fight
between Luke and Leia.
314
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We tried to use two performances
of Mark Hamill and Carrie
315
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at the appropriate age.
316
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And in fact,
Leia is being played
by Billie, her own daughter,
317
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which is amazing.
318
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There was this idea
in Return of the Jedi
that there is another.
319
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And of course,
it refers to Leia.
320
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And we thought that was
kind of a promise
that had not yet been fulfilled.
321
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So when she says
at the end of Episode VIII...
322
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We have everything we need.
323
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...it felt like
the perfect transition
to this story,
324
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where we come in and discover
that Rey is continuing
her Jedi training,
325
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but she's being trained
by the other Skywalker.
326
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It's fascinating
to watch an actress
come into a role like Rey,
327
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and to be 19, 20 years old.
328
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Even the idea of getting strong
physically, all of that was new.
329
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Whoo!
330
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And now as she's emerging
as a powerful Jedi--
331
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-Blast him back? Okay.
-Yeah.
332
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And you're watching her as Daisy
actually move through
that process,
333
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there's an interesting parallel.
334
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Bit of dialogue,
bit of dialogue.
335
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I went into it knowing
that I wanted to be healthy.
336
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Doing stuff that literally
feels good for your body.
337
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So I was sort of combining
a number of things,
338
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so I was doing
essentially bodyweight training
five days a week,
339
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and then kickboxing
twice a week.
340
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One, two.
341
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En garde. Dialogue.
342
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I took karate, uh, kendo,
343
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and did a little bit
of weight training.
344
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They sort of want to mix
that martial arts flavor
345
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in with the traditional
foil fencing.
346
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-That's good. All right.
-Okay.
347
00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:04,611
-Okay, we have to rest now.
-Okay. That's it, all right.
348
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I can't talk now.
I'm out of breath.
349
00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:08,381
Is it difficult?
350
00:19:08,415 --> 00:19:10,383
He's becoming
better than Errol Flynn.
351
00:19:10,417 --> 00:19:12,519
What do you mean by difficult?
352
00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:14,887
This is unusual, you know,
I haven't seen this one before.
353
00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:16,689
Then you pull the saber out.
Here we go.
354
00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:19,192
You know
how this is going to go.
It hits you immediately.
355
00:19:19,226 --> 00:19:23,029
This remote droid was molded
from the original mold
for A New Hope,
356
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the one that they used then.
357
00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:29,336
So that is exactly the same
as what you saw on
the Falc on A New Hope.
358
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- Sick.
359
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Do a stab.
360
00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:37,109
There you go. Yeah, like that.
361
00:19:37,143 --> 00:19:39,679
That's what it, are you ready?
-That was quick.
362
00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:42,215
It must be really annoying.
-Yeah.
363
00:19:42,249 --> 00:19:44,817
- Try, get me. Go on.
364
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:46,586
That's the feeling.
That's it, yeah.
365
00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:49,289
-Eunice.
- Come get me, go on.
366
00:19:49,322 --> 00:19:51,891
-It is like that though.
-That's what it is.
That's exactly right.
367
00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:54,093
Eunice just
a tremendous stunt coordinator,
368
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amazing force of nature.
369
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She just came across
as a breath of fresh air,
370
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someone who would attack this
with a passion that J.J.
would respond to.
371
00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:06,138
She's on the tightrope.
372
00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,474
-Going.
-Yeah.
373
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She gets the ribbon.
Now she's running back.
374
00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,912
-Thirty foot
is quite a big gorge.
-It is.
375
00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:16,416
Do you like the idea that
there's like a half-fallen tree
376
00:20:16,449 --> 00:20:20,353
and she sprints up
the fallen tree so it pitches it
off over the gorge a bit,
377
00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:23,456
and she gets
the height coming,
to come down on?
378
00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:26,259
-You would believe it more.
Yeah, cool.
-No, it's good.
379
00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:27,527
All right. Nice.
380
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,397
-Yeah, I got one!
381
00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:34,100
Yes, home run!
Boom. Have it.
382
00:20:42,942 --> 00:20:44,577
-How's that?
-Good.
383
00:20:47,013 --> 00:20:49,482
Does it--
Make it softer next time?
384
00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,119
She's walking to the end.
385
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:55,888
And then remember,
that strong takeoff changes
the whole body language.
386
00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:58,124
-That strong takeoff.
- Okay.
387
00:20:58,157 --> 00:21:00,092
And when you cycle through,
forget about the wires,
388
00:21:00,126 --> 00:21:01,661
-then just bring
your arms through.
-Yeah.
389
00:21:01,694 --> 00:21:03,262
-Okay.
-Okay.
390
00:21:03,296 --> 00:21:06,466
It's funny because
I had heard various things
about Eunice
391
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:07,800
before I met her.
392
00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:10,570
People go--
People call her intense.
393
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,772
With intention, Tommy.
394
00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:15,442
-I'm tense.
-Oh, I'm tense.
395
00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:21,981
Oh. I'm not tense at all.
I'm having a lovely time.
This is great.
396
00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:28,087
She's just got
the most amazing energy
all the time.
397
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,790
This is all you,
forget the wires.
You're doing this jump for real.
398
00:21:30,823 --> 00:21:32,459
- Yeah.
-Just drive!
399
00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:34,427
Set. And roll sound.
400
00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:36,262
- Rolling.
-Roll cameras, please.
401
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:37,464
Sound speed.
402
00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:39,031
-Sixteen Lima, take two.
-Here we go.
403
00:21:39,065 --> 00:21:43,370
Set and go. Camera!
Three, two, one. Action!
404
00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:44,904
Stretch out!
405
00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:49,476
And cut. Great job, Daisy.
406
00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:51,478
-I don't think
that was the best one.
-Great job, Dais.
407
00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:54,514
-I think I'm seeing you do that.
-Yeah.
408
00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:57,384
-It's like good,
good, good, weird.
- Didn't hit the wires.
409
00:21:57,417 --> 00:21:59,552
Eunice came over to me
at one point, she goes,
410
00:21:59,586 --> 00:22:01,488
"Do you think you were
as intense as last time?"
411
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:03,289
I was like, "That's not
the question, is it, Eunice?
412
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,925
You're asking me
to be more intense.
Just ask me to be more intense."
413
00:22:05,958 --> 00:22:08,327
She's like,
"Yeah, be more intense."
I was like, "Okay."
414
00:22:08,361 --> 00:22:13,733
Set, energy, and go. Camera!
Three, two, one. Action!
415
00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,835
Drive! Stretch out!
416
00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:18,538
Good girl.
That's the one. That's the one.
417
00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:20,272
Good girl.
418
00:22:21,641 --> 00:22:24,010
-Great job, Daisy.
-That was great.
419
00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:26,446
The excitement on Eunice's face
when we nail it.
420
00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:28,047
She's just like, "Yeah!"
421
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,316
I mean, it's just so--
You're just so happy
she's happy.
422
00:22:30,349 --> 00:22:31,484
So it's truly--
423
00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:33,219
I think every stunt
that happens,
424
00:22:33,252 --> 00:22:38,691
she actually projects herself
into the role,
and she's doing it.
425
00:22:38,725 --> 00:22:42,795
Her entire body is moving
in front of the monitor
426
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,198
when she watches
every little detail
of a stunt.
427
00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:51,170
Eunice has a confidence
that is really exciting
to work with.
428
00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:54,206
She's ferocious in a way
that you want people to be.
429
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,843
And when you
have people like that,
then you trust their opinion.
430
00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:59,546
And it challenges you
to make it better
and more specific.
431
00:22:59,579 --> 00:23:02,849
There was
no icebreaker with Adam.
You just, it's like--
432
00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:05,985
And that's it.
But I actually love it,
I love it.
433
00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:08,621
Even in rehearsals,
Adam's in character.
434
00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:12,191
I'll go, "Adam, you
need to step out more, it's
closing your strength down."
435
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:15,227
And he's like,
"No, no, I don't need
to step out more.
436
00:23:15,261 --> 00:23:16,663
Kylo Ren wouldn't be like that."
437
00:23:16,696 --> 00:23:18,531
He wants it there,
he wants it there.
438
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:20,166
And I'd be like,
"Yeah, but, yeah, but..."
439
00:23:20,199 --> 00:23:22,835
And we'd have this, like,
argument, but I like it.
440
00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:26,506
Character is her starting place.
It's never from spectacle,
it's always from within.
441
00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:30,176
He was like,
"So this how it is, Eunice.
I do all my own stunts."
442
00:23:30,209 --> 00:23:33,079
And I'm like,
"Yeah, here we go.
I always hear it."
443
00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,582
I go, "Adam,
there's a level you can do,
and there's a level you can't."
444
00:23:35,615 --> 00:23:38,150
"No, no, no,
you're not hearing me.
I do it all."
445
00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:41,854
The physicality of Kylo,
I'm very protective over,
446
00:23:41,888 --> 00:23:45,525
so you kind of-- I wanted
to do all of the things.
447
00:23:45,558 --> 00:23:47,960
I was like, "Well, okay,
if it looks good, you can do it.
448
00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:50,763
If it doesn't look that good,
I'll be putting
the stunt guy in."
449
00:23:50,797 --> 00:23:54,433
It has to look good,
so, um--
But he did everything.
450
00:23:57,036 --> 00:23:58,838
Okay, troopers.
Grab yourself a seat.
451
00:23:58,871 --> 00:24:00,272
Welcome, everyone.
452
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:03,209
Thank you for being here,
for being the evil crew.
453
00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:05,077
Troopers,
quick as you can. Thanks.
454
00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:06,913
You look awesome.
455
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,817
Thank you so much,
and let's have fun.
456
00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:12,652
All in favor say, "Aye."
- Aye.
457
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,224
At the start of the movie,
458
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:22,161
you find Kylo the most assured
of the choices that he's making,
459
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,531
going deeper and deeper
into the dark side.
460
00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:31,203
The thing that J.J. said to me
when we first met was
461
00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:36,543
that I imagine a journey
of a character where it's
almost the opposite of Vader.
462
00:24:38,244 --> 00:24:41,080
Someone who almost starts
the most vulnerable...
463
00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:45,618
and kind of
gradually becomes closer
to his convictions,
464
00:24:45,652 --> 00:24:47,486
more assured about his choices,
465
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,256
had metaphorically
and physically
killed his father--
466
00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:54,794
The unique and very
deeply emotional
and troubling way
467
00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:57,630
in which Han Solo meets his fate
468
00:24:57,664 --> 00:25:02,569
helps realize the full potential
of the character
that Adam Driver plays.
469
00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:09,341
What is it in the human brain
470
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:15,848
that gives us
the capacity to be as evil
as human beings have been?
471
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,853
That's what I wonder.
I wonder how can those people
possibly exist?
472
00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:29,361
Compassion and greed,
we all have those two sides
of us.
473
00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:33,165
We have to make sure
that those two sides of us
are in balance.
474
00:25:33,199 --> 00:25:36,135
What happens
when you go to the dark side
is it goes out of balance.
475
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,306
At the heart
of this movie is a darkness.
476
00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:44,677
It's part of Rey's journey
to confront this darkness
477
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:47,980
that's been there
from the very beginning
of The Force Awakens.
478
00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:52,284
We knew from the beginning
479
00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:54,420
that there would be
a Heart of Darkness-y
structure to the movie
480
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:57,423
and that this would be
about Rey's journey
to the darkest place,
481
00:25:57,456 --> 00:25:59,258
both in the galaxy and for her.
482
00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:03,195
But we had to work a lot
to try to figure out
exactly what that was,
483
00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:06,098
exactly what it meant,
how the past
would come into the story,
484
00:26:06,132 --> 00:26:09,802
how the present and future
would interact with that past.
485
00:26:09,836 --> 00:26:15,441
The idea came up of, "Well,
what if Palpatine lived on
in some way?"
486
00:26:15,474 --> 00:26:18,310
Within about 30 seconds
of discussing that idea,
487
00:26:18,344 --> 00:26:20,647
we just knew
that it was the right idea
488
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,784
because we knew that
this has always been a story
of Skywalkers and Palpatines.
489
00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:26,753
It's a generational story.
490
00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:29,789
The idea of the story
of these grandchildren
491
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:33,425
grappling with the same things
that their predecessors
had dealt with,
492
00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:35,227
it just felt poetic.
493
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:37,864
My favorite scene
from the prequels,
494
00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:41,668
Palpatine telling Anakin
the story of Darth Plagueis
the wise
495
00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,870
and his obsession
with cheating death.
496
00:26:43,903 --> 00:26:47,139
And it sits there
like the greatest setup
of all time.
497
00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:50,777
The dark side of the Force
is a pathway
498
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:56,082
to many abilities
some consider to be unnatural.
499
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:58,350
So, it could be
this unholy combination
500
00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:04,691
of trying to prolong life
both through medical means
and through dark magic.
501
00:27:06,158 --> 00:27:08,828
I love that he already looks
like his action figure.
502
00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:12,598
I feel I've
been lucky for the third time.
503
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:16,368
When George saw me for
ten minutes all those years ago
for Return of the Jedi,
504
00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:18,705
I was suddenly
the emperor of the universe.
505
00:27:18,738 --> 00:27:20,272
So then, to get this call,
506
00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:26,145
it was once again a third time,
extraordinary experience.
507
00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:30,082
This is fantastic. It's so good.
508
00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:32,819
- Is it still insane?
-It's insane.
509
00:27:32,852 --> 00:27:35,221
-It's insane.
510
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:38,124
It's actually getting
more insane moment to moment.
511
00:27:41,393 --> 00:27:46,766
Welcome, young Skywalker.
I have been expecting you.
512
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:52,438
It's like he has
this instrument that can go from
a whisper to this mega roar.
513
00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:55,708
It sounds like he's got
a tiger purring in his throat
514
00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:59,045
and that makes
the hairs stand up
on the back of your neck.
515
00:27:59,078 --> 00:28:03,750
This is the full Emperor
now bursting forth
as he always was.
516
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:05,852
Um...
517
00:28:05,885 --> 00:28:09,789
and it's clear that although
I have the best makeup artist
in the business,
518
00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:11,557
he doesn't.
519
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,927
I hadn't seen him in his garb
till on the day,
and it was awesome.
520
00:28:14,961 --> 00:28:17,363
The way it's described
in the script
521
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:21,433
is so creepy and so weird
and unsettling.
522
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,970
I just want to see Ian
be the Emperor again.
523
00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:25,738
I'm really excited about that.
524
00:28:25,772 --> 00:28:29,008
Look what you have made.
525
00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,882
The idea
that this is an ancient place,
526
00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:40,119
a place where maybe
the Sith really began
in the very beginning.
527
00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:42,755
The ideas are not just
coming from the script,
528
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:46,725
there is a visualization process
that also invokes
creating ideas.
529
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,829
This feeling is so dramatic,
you know what I mean?
530
00:28:49,862 --> 00:28:52,799
This like tumultuous,
stormy feeling.
531
00:28:52,832 --> 00:28:58,137
It would be great
to talk to Dom about what
methods we may be able to employ
532
00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:00,439
to create that sense
of it's a crazy storm,
533
00:29:00,472 --> 00:29:02,341
and just do it, you know,
in camera.
534
00:29:02,374 --> 00:29:05,144
One thing J.J. was always
impressing on me was
535
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:07,179
the fact that Rey
must feel small.
536
00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:10,182
We must feel like little people
in a massive world.
537
00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:12,751
The context of it is,
"I'm under...
538
00:29:12,785 --> 00:29:16,555
-I'm an ant under
the shoe of a giant."
-Right. Right.
539
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:20,126
When we made these,
a man was going to be
about that high.
540
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,561
Now a man's going to be
about that high.
541
00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:25,297
So these are absolutely giant.
542
00:29:28,801 --> 00:29:30,702
The thing
that we're talking about
is if we cast someone,
543
00:29:30,736 --> 00:29:35,107
then we wanna see
the mask become something
that's a choice.
544
00:29:35,141 --> 00:29:39,245
And so his putting it on,
it's almost oddly
a vulnerability.
545
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:42,414
Putting on the mask
makes him feel more powerful.
546
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,784
J.J. wanted Kylo Ren
to have the helmet,
547
00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:50,356
yet we had to address the fact
that he had destroyed it
in Episode VIII.
548
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:56,095
There's a technique
that the Japanese use
when they have broken pottery,
549
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:59,665
and they put it
back together with gold.
550
00:29:59,698 --> 00:30:04,303
It's always very evident
that the piece was once broken.
551
00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:07,506
Rather than do the gold,
we did a bright red.
552
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:16,582
It's really nice
to be killed by his lordship.
553
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:19,551
You know, if you've got to go,
then that's the way to go.
554
00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:22,354
So, you'll be sitting, uh...
555
00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,057
Action.
556
00:30:25,091 --> 00:30:27,126
One of the background players
is none other than
557
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:31,197
the granddaughter
of Sir Alec Guinness,
Sally Guinness, right here.
558
00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:31,998
Sally.
559
00:30:32,031 --> 00:30:33,900
Action.
560
00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,467
It's just
very exciting to be here.
561
00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:36,936
- Isn't it crazy?
-Yeah.
562
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:39,705
I've gone to the dark side,
apparently.
563
00:30:39,738 --> 00:30:41,073
Isn't it sad
what's happened?
564
00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,142
Rolling.
565
00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,145
-Rolling.
-Two, seventeen, take nine.
566
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:51,383
One second. And set.
Go, background.
567
00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:56,255
-Sir, we've just received news--
-I see it.
Send another battalion.
568
00:30:56,288 --> 00:31:01,027
This is a moment when
things are getting particularly
bad for the bad guys.
569
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:04,330
And so I wanted it
to feel like things
were a bit out of control,
570
00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:07,934
but the idea is to kind of
try and find ways
to keep the thing alive.
571
00:31:07,967 --> 00:31:11,103
It's not, like, an exercise
in how much can you do
in one shot,
572
00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:16,108
it's the longer
you can hold on something,
and watching it actually happen,
573
00:31:16,142 --> 00:31:18,077
the more exciting it is.
574
00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:20,246
-Cut! Beautiful. Great job.
-Cutting.
575
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,182
And then it ends with a close-up
on our friend, Richard E. Grant.
576
00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:24,883
You know, you can't
do wrong with that guy.
577
00:31:24,917 --> 00:31:26,652
Action.
578
00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:30,222
We recovered
the scavenger's ship,
but she got away.
579
00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:33,759
For a Star Wars geek,
this is a dream job come true.
580
00:31:33,792 --> 00:31:37,096
You feel like a kid in here,
and I've seen other
crew members do this as well.
581
00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:40,432
Even though you know
it's switches and buttons,
and it doesn't work,
582
00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:45,137
this impulse to just go up
and press things is very strong.
583
00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:47,139
It's like
being a kid in a sweet shop.
584
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,308
I mean, there are some
pretty big-name actors in this.
585
00:31:49,341 --> 00:31:52,078
And they all feel the same way.
We're all like, "Yes!"
586
00:31:58,384 --> 00:32:00,286
I've said to J.J.,
"Can you just pinch me
587
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,388
to know that
I'm actually here today?"
588
00:32:06,225 --> 00:32:09,628
So that's my feeling about it,
undisguised delight.
589
00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:14,400
Because Domhnall's
such a good guy,
590
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:18,537
it was extremely enjoyable
to pull status on him.
591
00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:20,906
I have the very great pleasure
of being shown the door by
Richard E. Grant,
592
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:22,408
which is lovely.
593
00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:26,145
It wouldn't be so bad to
make sure that when we shoot--
594
00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:33,685
To have a Star Wars gun
to take out General Hux
595
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:37,023
was an extraordinarily
pleasurable thing to do.
596
00:32:40,859 --> 00:32:42,294
Tell him we found our spy.
597
00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:44,596
B mark.
598
00:32:46,665 --> 00:32:48,300
Bang, bang, bang!
599
00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:50,769
The other two I enjoyed
while I was making them,
600
00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:54,173
but there was the stress
of the first time of it
being the first time,
601
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:56,475
and then the second time
of everything being different.
602
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,577
And this time it's really nice
just to kind of
603
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:00,912
allow yourself to sit back
and look around a little bit
604
00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:04,016
and remember how amazing it is
to actually be in Star Wars.
605
00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:06,685
The more emphatic you say yes,
the funnier, I think,
it should be.
606
00:33:06,718 --> 00:33:08,387
I'm the spy.
607
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:11,590
- What? You?
-Yes.
608
00:33:12,191 --> 00:33:14,260
Hang on. Yes.
609
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:16,228
Back to one.
610
00:33:16,262 --> 00:33:19,798
- You?
-Yes. We don't have much time.
611
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:22,801
Yes, we don't have much time.
Yes, yes, yes,
we don't have much time.
612
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,071
Yes, we don't have much time.
613
00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:27,039
-That last one was good.
614
00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,607
Cut.
Great job, thank you.
615
00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:32,511
Well, I think myself and
Richard had competitions
616
00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:34,613
to see who could
forget their line first.
617
00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:37,049
They overpowered the guards
and forced me to take them
through their ship.
618
00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:39,185
I that up.
I it up.
619
00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:40,786
It was a co-- Ah...
620
00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:42,421
What is it?
Sorry, what's his name again?
621
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,822
Allegiant General Pryde.
622
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,758
It was a coordinated incurment,
Allegiant Pryde.
623
00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:49,995
- Jeez, I said Pryde now.
624
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,763
-This is what happens.
-Cut.
625
00:33:51,797 --> 00:33:55,834
At one point I did have
to shamelessly request
of the director,
626
00:33:55,867 --> 00:34:00,839
could they please
write this one sentence
that kept jamming in my brain
627
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,542
on a piece of card
so that I could at least
look at it.
628
00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:06,145
No, Alderaan is peaceful,
we have no weapons. You can't--
629
00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:09,848
You would prefer another target?
A military target?
Then name the--
630
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,551
The-- Name it. Now!
631
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,187
A lot of times it has
impossible dialogue to say.
632
00:34:15,221 --> 00:34:16,988
You can type it.
633
00:34:17,022 --> 00:34:19,891
Like Harrison says,
you can type it fine,
there's no way to say it.
634
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:24,930
Blah... blah...
635
00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:30,702
The actual production
is shot in England,
and also Star Wars,
636
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:36,142
by the nature
of the exotic environments
that we deal with,
637
00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:39,545
we sort of travel
all around the globe
638
00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:44,583
and have things going on
on various continents, actually.
639
00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:59,465
- You can name them.
- One and two.
640
00:34:59,498 --> 00:35:03,169
Evangeline and Livonne.
641
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:06,572
There are no roads here.
642
00:35:08,174 --> 00:35:10,842
There's no facilities,
there's no bathrooms,
there's no power.
643
00:35:10,876 --> 00:35:14,546
We will have to play a little
because their eyes are magical,
644
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:16,482
and I don't want to lose
their eyes in a profile.
645
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:21,720
There's no food,
there's no potable,
drinkable water.
646
00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:27,593
When they go
to look this way, this one
will come this way, we'll lose--
647
00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,595
-This one could track
over to here--
-Yes. Exactly.
648
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:31,730
-I see this one's eyeball
the whole time.
-He could be watching him.
649
00:35:31,763 --> 00:35:33,465
So maybe that way
a little bit like that,
we see him in profile.
650
00:35:33,499 --> 00:35:35,133
No Wi-Fi, no internet.
651
00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:38,637
There's none of that.
652
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,839
As soon as we're good
in this field, ladies and gents,
653
00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:42,708
stand by to shoot please.
654
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:45,477
There are
no buildings here, there's
nothing to age where we are.
655
00:35:49,014 --> 00:35:50,382
It's timeless.
656
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:54,653
The Wadi Rum desert
was just epic.
657
00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,856
The vastness of the place
already feels like
an alien world.
658
00:36:00,892 --> 00:36:02,928
I always like going on location.
659
00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:05,631
It gives much more
of a real gravity to the scene,
I understand it more.
660
00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:07,766
I feel like
I'm really in the environment.
661
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,205
It feels like a proper journey.
662
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,342
We were in the desert
for the first one
at the very beginning,
663
00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:17,776
and now we're here
for the last one.
664
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:23,349
It wasn't
the first desert I'd been in.
665
00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:27,653
I'd been in Star Wars
since day one
out in Tunisia in 1976.
666
00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:31,890
Sand dunes and all that.
667
00:36:31,923 --> 00:36:35,694
This was the desert in Jordan
that Ralph McQuarrie
must have had in mind
668
00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:38,530
when he'd painted that
original picture of Threepio.
669
00:36:40,098 --> 00:36:44,770
These strange craggy shapes
with a kind of miasma of sand
below them,
670
00:36:44,803 --> 00:36:47,273
so the whole thing
kind of melted into one.
671
00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:49,275
It-- It was heart-turning.
672
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:54,580
In a way, it was like
Threepio coming home.
673
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,420
Okay.
674
00:37:02,854 --> 00:37:04,089
Am I in here?
675
00:37:04,122 --> 00:37:06,091
No one understands
Threepio at this point
676
00:37:06,124 --> 00:37:07,626
better than Anthony.
677
00:37:07,659 --> 00:37:10,061
-Oh, yeah. Aw.
-Aw.
678
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:11,863
I visited Anthony at home,
679
00:37:11,897 --> 00:37:17,002
and he showed me
some of the dialogue
looping notes from Star Wars,
680
00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,438
the first Star Wars, and
from The Empire Strikes Back.
681
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,307
So, there are
handwritten sheets that say,
682
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:23,309
"I'm not going that way,
it's much too rocky."
683
00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:26,378
Or the moment
in Empire Strikes Back
where he says,
684
00:37:26,412 --> 00:37:30,816
"The chances
of successfully navigating
an asteroid field are 3,720-1."
685
00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,851
But in the original,
it had said,
686
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:37,489
"The chances
of successfully navigating
an asteroid field are 3,725-1."
687
00:37:37,523 --> 00:37:40,859
And he changed it
and got rid of the five
because the rhythm was better.
688
00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:43,094
- Yeah.
-The way that it ended up
in the film.
689
00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:45,897
You know, on the other shot, uh,
when I say to R2, you know,
690
00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:47,299
-"Come on. Let's go."?
-Yeah.
691
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:48,834
I've already seen them,
692
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,603
so they ought to be kind of
in the doorway.
693
00:37:51,637 --> 00:37:54,673
-Yeah.
-I don't know how
you're gonna cut it.
694
00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:58,344
-That whole lineup
is a little tricky.
-Just throw it all away.
695
00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:00,346
Cut me out of this, mate.
696
00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:04,416
He has a way of tilting his head
or raising it back that's...
697
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:06,585
You-- It just...
698
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,287
it says more probably
than a person would do.
699
00:38:09,321 --> 00:38:11,923
The face itself
has no expression.
700
00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:14,660
But I find working
with Tony Daniels,
who plays the part,
701
00:38:15,661 --> 00:38:17,829
you read expressions
into that face.
702
00:38:17,863 --> 00:38:21,099
To me, he has
an incredibly mobile face.
703
00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:25,070
He looks quizzical, he's, uh--
You know when he's in danger...
704
00:38:25,103 --> 00:38:28,540
I can't stop myself
making all the faces
705
00:38:28,574 --> 00:38:30,342
and smiling or frowning,
looking worried.
706
00:38:30,376 --> 00:38:33,579
Even though
I'm way behind something,
nobody can see what I'm doing,
707
00:38:33,612 --> 00:38:36,214
but for myself,
I'm doing all the actions.
708
00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:39,551
And people come up
and they take the face, and
they say, "I'll try this on,"
709
00:38:39,585 --> 00:38:41,687
and they put it on,
and they take it off again,
710
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,655
'cause they can't bear it,
you know?
711
00:38:43,689 --> 00:38:46,324
I don't know, there's something
wrong with me that I can put up
with it.
712
00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:49,194
What do you think?
Would you put your head
in there?
713
00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:50,596
Neither would I.
714
00:38:50,629 --> 00:38:53,965
I rather love Threepio.
I think he's a nice guy.
715
00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:58,870
I think he gets a rough time,
but that's part
of the magic of it.
716
00:38:58,904 --> 00:39:00,772
I remember at our cast dinner,
717
00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:03,108
where everyone
had started reading the script
718
00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:05,076
and Anthony hadn't read it yet.
719
00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:09,548
So he kept hearing
from everybody, "Oh, my God,
Threepio's role in this film--"
720
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:15,454
Suddenly Threepio
was part of the team again.
721
00:39:15,487 --> 00:39:20,759
Not since really
the very first film had
Threepio lived such a full life.
722
00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:24,029
It's been gratifying
to give Anthony a role
that was bigger,
723
00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:26,264
and to really let him
go along on the adventure,
724
00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:29,034
'cause he has been along
on the adventure
since the beginning.
725
00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:32,003
-I made it.
- Thank you, thank you.
726
00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:47,819
We started shooting
the Festival of Ancestors,
which is truly insane.
727
00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:49,988
I've never seen anything
like this before.
728
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:56,094
And the amazing thing is,
that's literally the line
in the movie that Rey says.
729
00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,731
When you
think about Rey's journey
through these films,
730
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:01,933
she hasn't seen a lot of joy.
731
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:05,704
She has only seen the hardship
of growing up as an orphan,
732
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:06,872
and then she's seen war.
733
00:40:10,576 --> 00:40:16,247
And the point of Pasaana,
the world that we discovered
and created in Jordan,
734
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:20,752
is for her to see celebration
and abundant joy.
735
00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:28,727
The Aki-Akis were
actually a design
that happened quite early.
736
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,129
But if you bend over
and do this,
you keep your arms long,
737
00:40:31,162 --> 00:40:34,265
I start to not quite understand
what the body shape--
738
00:40:34,299 --> 00:40:35,801
You know what I'm saying?
739
00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:37,736
So if you guys wouldn't mind
all just bending your knees
740
00:40:37,769 --> 00:40:41,773
and keeping your arms long,
you know, and maybe move
your head forward a bit.
741
00:40:41,807 --> 00:40:43,041
Yeah, that's kind of cool.
742
00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:45,877
Maybe if we did have
some prosthetic legs
743
00:40:45,911 --> 00:40:48,146
to kind of see,
for a couple hero ones.
744
00:40:48,179 --> 00:40:50,749
- Yeah.
-And the legs weren't so...
745
00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:52,551
just human legs
with stockings,
746
00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:55,120
-but like we change
the anatomy a bit.
-Yeah.
747
00:40:55,153 --> 00:40:56,488
That could be interesting.
748
00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:59,525
If you saw one or two,
you'd be like,
I get all of them.
749
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,063
There's
a few lines in the script
that hint at what this might be,
750
00:41:05,096 --> 00:41:07,232
and then when we begin,
obviously, talking with J.J.,
751
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:08,934
or we begin sketching ideas out
752
00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:11,537
and coming up with
something that's, you know,
753
00:41:11,570 --> 00:41:16,174
feels like it may be
a desert creature that
doesn't feel misplaced here.
754
00:41:17,543 --> 00:41:19,545
Baby rhinos,
things like elephants,
755
00:41:19,578 --> 00:41:22,748
all these things
are quite good places to,
quite good creatures to look at.
756
00:41:25,684 --> 00:41:27,886
And obviously,
with Michael Kaplan in Costume,
757
00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:29,721
when Michael starts
to engage them,
758
00:41:29,755 --> 00:41:32,023
the shape becomes
a little bit more
understandable.
759
00:41:34,926 --> 00:41:38,096
Each one really
requires a lot of fabric.
760
00:41:38,129 --> 00:41:40,832
And so, it was finding
the correct fabrics.
761
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,434
We had to make a lot of trips
to different countries
762
00:41:43,468 --> 00:41:45,003
just to find
the quantities we needed.
763
00:41:46,304 --> 00:41:48,740
We found a lot of fabrics
in Italy, outside Florence,
764
00:41:48,774 --> 00:41:50,842
in these massive warehouses.
765
00:41:52,210 --> 00:41:54,279
The most amazing thing
about them is just
the sheer volume.
766
00:41:54,312 --> 00:42:00,185
We were given the daunting task
of casting 450 Creatures, Akis.
767
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:01,953
We were talking about
how could we achieve this.
768
00:42:01,987 --> 00:42:04,656
Obviously
we couldn't fly everybody in
and hotel them.
769
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,358
There wouldn't be enough hotels,
there wouldn't be
enough infrastructure.
770
00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:11,029
So the idea was working
with the Jordanian soldiers
771
00:42:11,062 --> 00:42:13,264
and local Jordanian people
here as well.
772
00:42:13,298 --> 00:42:16,367
The first part of today will be
learning the ritual dance.
773
00:42:16,401 --> 00:42:19,805
Left, right, left.
774
00:42:20,706 --> 00:42:23,308
-Make a noise.
-Ooh.
775
00:42:23,341 --> 00:42:25,143
Five, six, seven, eight.
776
00:42:31,316 --> 00:42:32,417
Again.
777
00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:33,985
They just became so involved.
778
00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:36,922
Five, six. Here we go. One.
779
00:42:36,955 --> 00:42:40,626
They got into it
and all of a sudden
I started to see it,
780
00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:44,029
how it's going to be
in weeks to come,
after the boot camp week.
781
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:46,264
Again.
782
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:47,766
And then obviously filming.
783
00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:49,434
Here we go.
784
00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:52,270
Five, six. Here we go. One.
785
00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:54,906
J.J. did come along,
and his feedback was great.
786
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:56,441
He absolutely loved it.
787
00:43:09,387 --> 00:43:13,424
So, take ten minutes,
get yourself a drink,
have a breather.
788
00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:14,860
We'll all come back.
789
00:43:14,893 --> 00:43:16,762
You know,
talking to the performers,
790
00:43:16,795 --> 00:43:19,130
for a lot of them,
they've never done
this type of work before.
791
00:43:19,965 --> 00:43:21,432
It's the first time for them,
792
00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:22,768
and they're excited.
793
00:43:24,636 --> 00:43:28,807
I felt awesome.
I felt like a real alien.
A real Aki-Aki.
794
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,776
The more I'm in it,
the more fun it becomes.
795
00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:32,477
And I'm having, like,
the best time.
796
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:34,813
It's really beautiful.
797
00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:36,815
Thank you, thank you.
798
00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:40,018
That's the main thing,
they're excited, they're
into it, and they want to do it.
799
00:43:40,051 --> 00:43:42,187
And that's all I could ask,
so it's great.
800
00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:45,623
And then we're gonna put it
over Rob's head.
801
00:43:47,659 --> 00:43:50,161
And that was another army
of people that were
involved in that,
802
00:43:50,195 --> 00:43:51,830
just to get the creatures ready.
803
00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:54,866
Normally
we're used to one-on-one,
804
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:56,835
or you have sort of
two or three people to dress.
805
00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:59,938
And, this is sort of
so constant for the two hours
806
00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,707
that you've really
got to push them through.
807
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:04,375
All right, we're just
plugging you in, Calvin.
808
00:44:04,409 --> 00:44:07,078
To get all those aliens
on that set, on time,
809
00:44:07,112 --> 00:44:09,347
and to have them trained,
and be dancing...
810
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:12,317
- Is that all right?
-You okay? Perfect.
811
00:44:12,350 --> 00:44:14,152
...that was pretty remarkable,
I thought.
812
00:44:16,621 --> 00:44:19,958
We first came here in April,
and there was nothing here.
813
00:44:19,991 --> 00:44:25,130
We scanned this whole area
and ILM helped put together
a virtual version
814
00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:29,000
so that J.J. could walk around
with the headset back in the UK.
815
00:44:29,034 --> 00:44:32,871
Set dec designed all the tents,
and now it's October.
816
00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:35,941
We've been here six weeks,
putting this up.
817
00:44:35,974 --> 00:44:39,277
So then to have the tents here,
and everyone in it,
818
00:44:39,310 --> 00:44:42,413
is quite special and we're
excited to get filming.
819
00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:49,788
We're gonna move you
over this way.
820
00:44:49,821 --> 00:44:51,189
I can't believe
what we're doing.
821
00:44:51,222 --> 00:44:54,359
-I know who you are.
822
00:44:54,392 --> 00:44:57,495
We're basically bringing
the most insane, massive
puppet show to Jordan.
823
00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:58,897
The head shake is amazing.
824
00:44:58,930 --> 00:45:00,498
A little bit more shake, Liam.
On the head shake.
825
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:02,567
-I hope it works.
-That is so good.
826
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,436
It was a little bit like
putting on a big show event.
827
00:45:09,007 --> 00:45:10,876
It didn't feel like filmmaking,
828
00:45:10,909 --> 00:45:13,711
it felt like something
much more carnival
about the whole thing.
829
00:45:14,946 --> 00:45:17,482
I must say
I'm very proud of all our crowd.
830
00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:19,417
And they're being very patient,
it's a very hot day today.
831
00:45:21,887 --> 00:45:23,989
I've never seen
anything like this.
832
00:45:24,022 --> 00:45:26,391
I've never seen
so few wayfinders.
833
00:45:26,424 --> 00:45:29,928
The enthusiasm and joy
that they have brought to it,
834
00:45:29,961 --> 00:45:31,863
and commitment,
is extraordinary.
835
00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:35,400
Shukran. Shukran.
Amazing. Amazing.
836
00:45:35,433 --> 00:45:38,136
I've got to kind of keep my cool
and stay professional about it,
837
00:45:38,169 --> 00:45:40,371
but working with J.J.
has been amazing.
838
00:45:46,644 --> 00:45:49,114
We also did some little
Aki children as well,
839
00:45:49,147 --> 00:45:50,748
which have a little part
to play,
840
00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:52,884
and that was very sweet,
because they were all
hand puppets
841
00:45:52,918 --> 00:45:57,655
and we literally dug a trench
and put nearly 30 puppeteers
beneath them.
842
00:45:57,688 --> 00:46:01,092
It's a three-person puppet,
each one, and we've got 14.
843
00:46:01,126 --> 00:46:04,395
So there's quite a lot of us
underneath the floor here.
844
00:46:04,429 --> 00:46:07,098
So they do a sweep for scorpions
first thing in the morning
845
00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:09,434
before we get down here
and scare them all away.
846
00:46:09,467 --> 00:46:12,637
We did see some scorpion tracks
in the sand the other day,
847
00:46:12,670 --> 00:46:14,139
so that was quite exciting.
848
00:46:16,041 --> 00:46:21,212
You're actually seeing
a kind of version of the world
of Star War in one area.
849
00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:26,417
What you're seeing is a galaxy
that is worth fighting for.
850
00:46:26,451 --> 00:46:28,854
You got the gun there,
like that, you're training it.
851
00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:33,992
You just literally relax
and let it all go.
852
00:46:34,025 --> 00:46:36,862
I was shot by Chewbacca
in The Force Awakens.
853
00:46:37,896 --> 00:46:38,997
Hey.
854
00:46:40,565 --> 00:46:42,868
And now
you're going to be shot by?
855
00:46:42,901 --> 00:46:45,536
Lando Calrissian,
I've been told.
I don't know if that's true.
856
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:48,039
-Just imagine
that the second here.
-Yeah.
857
00:46:48,073 --> 00:46:50,976
-Now the lights are out.
-I got it. Yeah.
858
00:46:51,009 --> 00:46:52,510
I hope that that's true.
859
00:46:52,543 --> 00:46:54,312
I sort of gradually work my way
through the entire cast,
860
00:46:54,345 --> 00:46:55,480
maybe everyone can have a go.
861
00:46:55,513 --> 00:46:56,447
Action.
862
00:46:59,084 --> 00:47:00,919
-Pretty good?
-Yeah.
863
00:47:00,952 --> 00:47:02,253
No worries,
I'll be all right.
864
00:47:02,287 --> 00:47:03,922
-That was pretty good.
-Okay, good.
865
00:47:03,955 --> 00:47:05,656
All right.
So if I can just do that--
866
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:09,660
The stormtroopers
have discovered us,
and we have to run away.
867
00:47:09,694 --> 00:47:12,297
Easier said than done
in my case, of course.
868
00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:23,608
We've got a ton to do.
869
00:47:23,641 --> 00:47:26,477
We had a 20-day schedule.
We decided to make it
a 16-day schedule.
870
00:47:26,511 --> 00:47:30,048
The work hasn't changed
that significantly,
so it's not easier.
871
00:47:30,081 --> 00:47:33,484
You see all different
departments working really hard
872
00:47:33,518 --> 00:47:36,187
in what can be some really
quite challenging conditions.
873
00:47:37,622 --> 00:47:40,058
Well, it's, uh, quite dusty.
874
00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:42,627
Hot, hot, hot.
875
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:46,031
And then, you know,
you have your occasional dust.
876
00:47:46,064 --> 00:47:48,033
It's quite hard
to work in a desert.
877
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:49,567
Everything takes
a little bit longer.
878
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,337
That pesky sand and the wind
get in the way.
879
00:47:53,604 --> 00:47:56,341
My name is Ali,
this is my first production.
880
00:47:56,374 --> 00:47:59,377
And I just want
to see Chewbacca, man.
Chewbacca holler at me.
881
00:47:59,410 --> 00:48:01,646
I love you. I love you.
882
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:06,251
Ladies and gentlemen, Joonas.
Give it up for Joonas.
883
00:48:11,689 --> 00:48:13,424
Chewbacca's my hero.
884
00:48:13,458 --> 00:48:15,093
This is amazing.
885
00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:25,903
Our bad boys
end up going that way.
886
00:48:25,937 --> 00:48:29,507
It's an amazing exercise
to do Second Unit, I gotta say.
887
00:48:33,444 --> 00:48:36,114
Attack it.
Attack it as it changes,
be malleable.
888
00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:42,520
We're doing
a really exciting explosion,
where we have three cameras.
889
00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:47,292
Here we go then, guys.
We're shooting.
890
00:48:47,325 --> 00:48:49,127
You only get one chance
to get it right.
891
00:48:59,337 --> 00:49:03,108
I don't think there's
one person here that would want
to be anywhere else right now.
892
00:49:04,109 --> 00:49:05,276
I'm pretty sure.
893
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:15,286
And three, two, one. Bang.
894
00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:24,495
We are here to safely
drown the heroes
in sinking sand
895
00:49:24,529 --> 00:49:26,664
without scaring them
or injuring anybody.
896
00:49:31,036 --> 00:49:33,304
We dug out--
You see this huge hole.
897
00:49:33,338 --> 00:49:37,208
Got a crane in,
load in all these containers.
898
00:49:38,743 --> 00:49:40,478
And thanks to the local army,
899
00:49:40,511 --> 00:49:43,214
because they've provided
the digger and the labor
to do that.
900
00:49:53,491 --> 00:49:55,326
So there's
various rigs involved,
901
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,229
one of which we can literally
drag them all the way under
902
00:49:58,263 --> 00:50:01,166
so they're completely covered
in the material.
903
00:50:04,769 --> 00:50:07,605
Or there's a couple of rigs
where Daisy Ridley
in particular,
904
00:50:07,638 --> 00:50:11,876
she can crawl through the beans
to get to Chewbacca.
905
00:50:11,909 --> 00:50:15,580
She stands here,
and she sinks down
906
00:50:15,613 --> 00:50:18,083
through the sand
as she's moving forward.
907
00:50:18,116 --> 00:50:20,751
So, we're using
a combination of materials.
908
00:50:20,785 --> 00:50:22,287
Like, this is one of them.
909
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,691
We're using black beans
in order to simulate black sand,
910
00:50:26,724 --> 00:50:28,393
'cause they're much easier
to push through.
911
00:50:30,861 --> 00:50:32,697
One, two, three, four, five. Ah.
912
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:36,201
It's easy to find the set
because it's all the black sand
here.
913
00:50:36,234 --> 00:50:38,035
Black beans, no one goes in it.
914
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:41,139
Okay?
Apart from the effects team,
and the stunt team.
915
00:50:41,172 --> 00:50:43,741
There's very detailed protocols
916
00:50:43,774 --> 00:50:46,477
that Dominic has
for how we look out
for the actors.
917
00:50:49,747 --> 00:50:53,684
- What the hell is this?
-Sinking fields,
try to grab something.
918
00:50:53,718 --> 00:50:55,953
The beans
would just come and cover us up.
919
00:50:55,986 --> 00:50:58,689
And you'd have to kind of hold
your breath for a little bit,
until they said, "Cut,"
920
00:50:58,723 --> 00:51:01,492
and then they would lift them
back up and you'd breathe again.
921
00:51:01,526 --> 00:51:03,294
And that was
a little freaky sometimes.
922
00:51:03,328 --> 00:51:06,597
-Bye, John.
923
00:51:07,798 --> 00:51:08,666
I liked it.
924
00:51:11,236 --> 00:51:15,240
One, two, three, four, five,
925
00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:19,410
six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
926
00:51:23,281 --> 00:51:24,682
-Well done, man.
- Well done.
927
00:51:31,021 --> 00:51:32,390
I get a bit claustrophobic.
928
00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:37,728
I remember coming through
the first time,
929
00:51:37,762 --> 00:51:41,632
and you sort of
have to hold your breath,
and, like, panicking.
930
00:51:41,666 --> 00:51:43,634
I got stuck
in the air bubble.
931
00:51:43,668 --> 00:51:46,737
And we're good. Great work.
932
00:51:46,771 --> 00:51:49,874
I think people were sort of
joking about it, but I really--
933
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:51,409
It was--
934
00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:53,344
Oh, it was, yeah, awful.
935
00:51:53,378 --> 00:51:55,380
-Rey!
936
00:51:55,413 --> 00:51:59,184
-Look, I never told you--
-What? No. No.
937
00:51:59,217 --> 00:52:00,485
And cut. Beautiful job.
938
00:52:00,518 --> 00:52:03,721
And it looks amazing,
but it was awful.
939
00:52:09,059 --> 00:52:10,728
You go into a sort of quicksand,
940
00:52:10,761 --> 00:52:14,365
but then you end up at
the underside of the quicksand,
941
00:52:14,399 --> 00:52:16,267
which is something J.J.'s
always wanted to do.
942
00:52:16,301 --> 00:52:17,635
What's underneath all that?
943
00:52:17,668 --> 00:52:19,437
This is so good.
944
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,540
This is like the thing
when you're a kid, and you
don't quite know where it goes.
945
00:52:22,573 --> 00:52:24,008
It feels like
it goes on forever.
946
00:52:24,041 --> 00:52:25,643
And then essentially,
947
00:52:25,676 --> 00:52:27,312
as you always are whenever
you do something like that,
948
00:52:27,345 --> 00:52:28,879
you're in the subconscious.
949
00:52:31,449 --> 00:52:33,050
Now you learn things.
950
00:52:33,083 --> 00:52:35,786
What do you learn?
You learn what happened
to her parents.
951
00:52:40,591 --> 00:52:42,893
You learn
about her ability to heal...
952
00:52:46,497 --> 00:52:49,600
even when faced with something
that could be perceived
as threatening.
953
00:52:52,737 --> 00:52:56,541
And you look and
there's a snake. A giant snake,
a huge scary giant snake.
954
00:52:56,574 --> 00:52:58,175
Oh, my God, and it goes up!
955
00:52:58,209 --> 00:53:00,778
-And, Anthony.
956
00:53:00,811 --> 00:53:06,083
There are so many new characters
and situations and effects.
957
00:53:06,116 --> 00:53:08,886
I thought
they would have used them all up
on the first Star Wars.
958
00:53:08,919 --> 00:53:10,888
And you know,
I arrive in the studio
959
00:53:10,921 --> 00:53:13,958
and there's something
quite magical to see
and some new monster.
960
00:53:13,991 --> 00:53:17,562
I saw one today.
A great sort of splodge thing.
961
00:53:17,595 --> 00:53:21,699
And it was great fun
to act with all that,
and it's very stimulating.
962
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,043
I couldn't believe
what the creature department
had come up with.
963
00:53:33,077 --> 00:53:36,781
The most wonderful piece
of engineering and puppetry,
964
00:53:36,814 --> 00:53:41,286
because various members
of the team were coiled
inside the coils
965
00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:43,554
and sort of rolling it
and slithering it.
966
00:53:43,588 --> 00:53:46,924
And at the back somebody's
got this main arm, you know,
967
00:53:46,957 --> 00:53:48,926
and the face is coming at you,
you know?
968
00:53:52,997 --> 00:53:55,733
Swing left. And right.
969
00:53:55,766 --> 00:53:58,168
Being, like,
a big multi-person puppet,
970
00:53:58,202 --> 00:54:01,272
we all have to work
in synchronization
with each other,
971
00:54:01,306 --> 00:54:04,542
and if one of us is out of time,
it kind of throws
the whole thing off
972
00:54:04,575 --> 00:54:06,977
and it can look
a little bit clunky.
973
00:54:07,011 --> 00:54:09,480
So, yeah, we all have
to kind of tune in
to each other,
974
00:54:09,514 --> 00:54:10,781
and really feel it.
975
00:54:22,226 --> 00:54:24,795
This is my favorite part.
976
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:27,398
We wanted to have something
for the actors to react to.
977
00:54:27,432 --> 00:54:32,437
So they had a pretty impressive
stand-in version
of that creature.
978
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:36,774
That creates a much more
immediate performance for J.J.
to watch and look at.
979
00:54:36,807 --> 00:54:39,977
And can the snake
in that position
come back any more?
980
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:43,213
There's some shots where,
you know, you could
still use the puppet,
981
00:54:43,247 --> 00:54:47,485
but for the most part
we basically replaced it
with a CG version of it.
982
00:54:47,518 --> 00:54:49,620
Now, get really low down.
Good.
983
00:54:51,689 --> 00:54:53,491
Really low down.
984
00:54:58,363 --> 00:55:01,399
You can sort of
be like... it's sort of
taking something out of you,
985
00:55:01,432 --> 00:55:05,503
but you're kind of
focused on it.
And then it could do the inhale.
986
00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:11,409
And cut. Good job.
987
00:55:14,211 --> 00:55:17,548
-I'll tell you what, weirdly--
-I felt such a connection
with the snake.
988
00:55:17,582 --> 00:55:19,216
-I'm not joking.
Are you kidding?
-No.
989
00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:21,386
'Cause I totally did
at the end when
you were healing it--
990
00:55:21,419 --> 00:55:22,653
That's amazing.
991
00:55:22,687 --> 00:55:24,054
That's what acting's all about.
992
00:55:24,088 --> 00:55:26,991
You can't sort of go home
and rehearse
993
00:55:27,024 --> 00:55:30,628
your reaction
to a 9-foot ice monster breaking
through a wall, you know?
994
00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:33,798
You just have to go on the day
and see what happens.
995
00:55:33,831 --> 00:55:36,667
But, uh, it's never dull.
996
00:55:40,371 --> 00:55:41,672
What?
997
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,674
I'll be right behind you.
998
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:46,944
It's fine.
999
00:55:50,848 --> 00:55:55,119
What if your sort of soul mate
in the Force was your enemy?
1000
00:55:56,954 --> 00:55:59,790
As she's walking out,
we'll sort of arm out
as we're extending.
1001
00:55:59,824 --> 00:56:02,393
Circumstance
pits them against each other,
1002
00:56:02,427 --> 00:56:03,961
but the Force bonds
them together.
1003
00:56:03,994 --> 00:56:06,564
You'll walk out, basically,
maybe this direction.
1004
00:56:08,165 --> 00:56:10,067
-And the saber
is in your hand here.
-Here you go.
1005
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,437
So, try the other--
Turn the other way please.
1006
00:56:13,771 --> 00:56:15,105
That's actually
probably better.
1007
00:56:15,139 --> 00:56:16,607
That way I get the saber
coming across camera,
1008
00:56:16,641 --> 00:56:18,443
-you know what I'm saying?
-Yeah.
1009
00:56:18,476 --> 00:56:20,911
They understand
each other almost from
a point of view of fate.
1010
00:56:20,945 --> 00:56:22,947
And yet fate
has made them enemies.
1011
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:26,116
-And three, two, one, go.
1012
00:56:28,686 --> 00:56:30,387
And cut. That's so good.
1013
00:56:30,421 --> 00:56:32,957
It would be cool
to do a couple versions,
1014
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:35,926
one that's more determined,
one that's more afraid.
1015
00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,002
You should explode that much,
like, say--
1016
00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:47,438
Like, just for that,
and then just go-to.
1017
00:56:47,472 --> 00:56:50,107
-And then I could make--
-You could do a quick step out.
Yeah.
1018
00:56:50,140 --> 00:56:52,176
-Shooting.
-Stand by to shoot.
1019
00:56:54,479 --> 00:56:56,714
Because of its luscious nature,
1020
00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:59,584
there's nothing
like watching film,
1021
00:56:59,617 --> 00:57:02,653
seeing
that the exposure's right,
that everything's right.
1022
00:57:02,687 --> 00:57:03,921
Three, two, one, go.
1023
00:57:05,590 --> 00:57:07,357
I love shooting
things practically.
1024
00:57:07,391 --> 00:57:10,695
And cut. Great job.
That was great, Dais.
That's awesome.
1025
00:57:10,728 --> 00:57:15,132
There's just a reality
to framing something up
and how the camera moves.
1026
00:57:15,165 --> 00:57:18,302
And if she lands here,
we should be good for Carlos.
1027
00:57:18,335 --> 00:57:19,637
-And for you.
-Lovely.
1028
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:21,171
Let's get the drone up
in the air. Thank you.
1029
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,776
Here we go.
And three, two, one, action.
1030
00:57:36,153 --> 00:57:37,788
That's incredible.
1031
00:57:37,822 --> 00:57:39,724
Could you play A at 60 frames?
1032
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:48,533
It's tougher emotionally
than I thought it would be.
1033
00:57:51,769 --> 00:57:55,806
The stuff with Adam
always has been so emotional,
1034
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,876
trying to find that balance
of feeling the light side
1035
00:57:58,909 --> 00:58:01,812
but also feeling
the draw to the dark side.
1036
00:58:08,686 --> 00:58:11,488
I love my life.
I love my job.
1037
00:58:11,522 --> 00:58:12,923
-It looks beautiful.
-I'm so excited.
1038
00:58:21,131 --> 00:58:22,967
He learns that,
over the course of the movie,
1039
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,702
that they're two halves
of the same thing.
1040
00:58:29,273 --> 00:58:33,711
I think it just, if anything,
reaffirms what he knows
intuitively,
1041
00:58:34,478 --> 00:58:36,013
and has known for a while,
1042
00:58:36,046 --> 00:58:38,683
but hasn't been able
to articulate until he can.
1043
00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:46,591
No! No!
1044
00:58:50,060 --> 00:58:51,962
Chewie!
1045
00:58:51,996 --> 00:58:53,864
We did versions
when I'm just looking at it
1046
00:58:53,898 --> 00:58:55,900
and versions
when I looked at my hand.
1047
00:58:55,933 --> 00:58:59,870
And doing it felt horrific.
1048
00:59:01,338 --> 00:59:04,541
And that's really, I think,
obviously when you start
to see
1049
00:59:04,575 --> 00:59:06,076
that all is not well.
1050
00:59:09,013 --> 00:59:11,949
All right, we're
gonna all clear out in a minute
and let J.J. walk the set,
1051
00:59:11,982 --> 00:59:13,918
and then Adam
let rehearse it as well.
1052
00:59:13,951 --> 00:59:15,452
When they finally
have this confrontation,
1053
00:59:15,485 --> 00:59:17,888
despite it being this battle
seemingly to the death,
1054
00:59:17,922 --> 00:59:21,659
he clearly has interest in her
beyond just killing her.
1055
00:59:21,692 --> 00:59:24,795
There obviously
have been questions
for three films for Rey
1056
00:59:24,829 --> 00:59:26,631
that have culminated in this.
1057
00:59:26,664 --> 00:59:28,365
And it feels, having done it,
1058
00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:31,936
that it was the only way
she was going to get back
to herself,
1059
00:59:31,969 --> 00:59:35,239
is answering those questions
that are, like, lingering,
lingering, lingering.
1060
00:59:35,272 --> 00:59:37,341
You're looking down
at the blade,
frame that with her,
1061
00:59:37,374 --> 00:59:39,343
and then over her shoulder,
he's standing there.
1062
00:59:39,376 --> 00:59:41,145
That was the thing
I said to J.J.,
1063
00:59:41,178 --> 00:59:42,913
"I hope Adam and I
have some stuff together."
1064
00:59:42,947 --> 00:59:45,349
'Cause it's nice seeing
the differences.
1065
00:59:45,382 --> 00:59:48,919
I don't want it to feel like
Episode VIII Rey and Kylo.
1066
00:59:48,953 --> 00:59:51,355
So it has to be beyond then.
There has to be rage there.
1067
00:59:51,388 --> 00:59:54,659
But also,
there has to be sympathy
and understanding
1068
00:59:54,692 --> 00:59:56,694
and an actual connection.
1069
00:59:56,727 --> 00:59:59,063
And Adam,
turn clockwise, I guess.
1070
00:59:59,096 --> 01:00:00,631
A little bit more,
yeah, like that.
1071
01:00:00,665 --> 01:00:03,133
And then Daisy
come to your left
a touch more, please.
1072
01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:11,308
So, the Force
connection, which becomes
the fight in his quarters,
1073
01:00:11,341 --> 01:00:14,178
took like two or three days,
and it was pretty tough.
1074
01:00:14,211 --> 01:00:16,346
I think that was
the first fight we did.
1075
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:18,248
And so in my mind I thought,
1076
01:00:18,282 --> 01:00:21,485
"We'll just have pickups
in Kijimi, that will be great.
We'll go to Kijimi."
1077
01:00:21,518 --> 01:00:23,721
And then we were shooting
outside.
1078
01:00:23,754 --> 01:00:25,856
It was absolutely freezing,
1079
01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:28,793
and there were
really technical things
we had to do.
1080
01:00:28,826 --> 01:00:30,327
And some of the moves
were really difficult,
1081
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,730
and I thought,
oh, I won't have to do these.
1082
01:00:32,763 --> 01:00:34,832
And then obviously
I had to do them.
1083
01:00:41,071 --> 01:00:42,006
Sorry.
1084
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:43,373
-Sorry.
-No, it's all right.
1085
01:00:45,242 --> 01:00:47,244
Back to one.
Twenty-four, Charlie,
take three.
1086
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,790
I was nervous about the fight,
because he's enormous.
1087
01:00:59,824 --> 01:01:01,892
That was really my main worry.
1088
01:01:01,926 --> 01:01:04,394
But then once we got into it
it was pretty cool,
1089
01:01:04,428 --> 01:01:06,596
because it was more like
a choreographed dance.
1090
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:08,165
And it felt like it
really paid off,
1091
01:01:08,198 --> 01:01:10,367
because I think
we both really knew
what we were doing
1092
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,870
and how we were feeling,
and it was great.
1093
01:01:19,376 --> 01:01:21,545
They sold you to protect you.
1094
01:01:21,578 --> 01:01:22,747
Stop talking.
1095
01:01:37,627 --> 01:01:41,198
The set of Kijimi was one
of the wildest I'd ever seen.
1096
01:01:41,231 --> 01:01:44,168
It's epically big.
And it's got street
after street.
1097
01:01:44,201 --> 01:01:47,137
It's like stairs
leading to stairs.
1098
01:01:47,171 --> 01:01:49,006
The walls were easy,
the windows were easy.
1099
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,707
The bloody roofs.
1100
01:01:50,741 --> 01:01:53,477
Four hundred construction guys,
it's like running an army.
1101
01:01:57,147 --> 01:01:58,315
Ta-da!
1102
01:02:05,923 --> 01:02:07,391
Where is this
in the script?
1103
01:02:07,424 --> 01:02:09,659
Well this is the Kijimi,
the snowy planet.
1104
01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:13,030
We wanted to reference
Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.
1105
01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:15,132
The original two guys
in Hidden Fortress
1106
01:02:15,165 --> 01:02:17,968
were basically
the initial versions
of Threepio and R2,
1107
01:02:18,002 --> 01:02:20,504
two people
in a bigger adventure.
1108
01:02:20,537 --> 01:02:23,941
I went to high school in Japan,
and when I walked in,
1109
01:02:23,974 --> 01:02:26,576
these looked very familiar
to those roofs.
1110
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:29,113
You know the walls,
the sloped angle
and the giant flagstones,
1111
01:02:29,146 --> 01:02:31,515
it's very much based
upon our tribute to Kurosawa.
1112
01:02:33,951 --> 01:02:36,787
The idea for Kijimi,
what it looked like,
what it felt like,
1113
01:02:36,821 --> 01:02:42,759
was really just,
"Here's a corner of the galaxy
that we should take a peek at
1114
01:02:42,793 --> 01:02:47,998
to see what these villages
are like when the First Order
has occupied them."
1115
01:02:48,032 --> 01:02:50,835
You guys are like,
"Let's get out of here,"
and you start to walk off.
1116
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:56,273
Yeah,
'cause it's the first slam,
I think, and then--
1117
01:02:57,507 --> 01:02:59,810
The whole thing
could be a little mistier.
1118
01:02:59,844 --> 01:03:01,311
It's quite cold out here,
isn't it?
1119
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:07,551
Amazingly, Star Wars has
these big beautiful sets,
1120
01:03:07,584 --> 01:03:11,288
you're not imagining
that much of it,
because you're actually in them.
1121
01:03:11,321 --> 01:03:13,991
I just feel like
I am in the galaxy right now.
1122
01:03:14,024 --> 01:03:15,659
I am going to win.
1123
01:03:15,692 --> 01:03:19,229
Ready, and background!
Civilians! Troopers!
1124
01:03:19,263 --> 01:03:21,866
Three, two, one, go.
1125
01:03:26,736 --> 01:03:28,939
We knew that we wanted
to learn more about Poe.
1126
01:03:28,973 --> 01:03:30,540
We wanted to learn
more about Finn.
1127
01:03:30,574 --> 01:03:35,245
But the challenge was to do
that without stopping the film.
1128
01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:38,015
Sometimes it takes
a couple tries, you know?
1129
01:03:38,048 --> 01:03:40,684
- A couple tries?
-A couple tries, you gotta--
1130
01:03:40,717 --> 01:03:43,420
That wasn't a couple tries,
that was like 29.
1131
01:03:43,453 --> 01:03:46,023
Was it? Didn't feel
like that much for me.
1132
01:03:49,193 --> 01:03:51,128
They're everywhere.
We gotta find another way.
1133
01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:53,197
There's an Arthur Miller quote,
1134
01:03:53,230 --> 01:03:56,166
which is that every drama
is a story of the birds
coming home to roost.
1135
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,569
And I think that's somewhat true
for everyone in the story.
1136
01:04:01,405 --> 01:04:05,009
Poe, and the way
that he left things with Zorii
comes back in the film.
1137
01:04:05,042 --> 01:04:07,377
Heard you
were spotted at Monk's Gate.
1138
01:04:07,411 --> 01:04:10,447
Thought, "He's not stupid enough
to come back here."
1139
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,985
I love that we get to
go back to when he was a young,
scrappy guy.
1140
01:04:15,019 --> 01:04:18,622
Poe and Zorii have history.
1141
01:04:18,655 --> 01:04:22,059
Okay, well, he had
a little moment in time there
1142
01:04:22,092 --> 01:04:24,394
where he was caught up
in the spice ring.
1143
01:04:24,428 --> 01:04:27,097
I think they were like
a lot of people in Star Wars,
1144
01:04:27,131 --> 01:04:30,667
they were surviving
in the only way that you can.
1145
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:32,269
You were a spice runner?
1146
01:04:32,302 --> 01:04:33,837
-You were a stormtrooper?
-Were you a spice runner?
1147
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,805
Were you a scavenger?
We could do this all night.
1148
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:39,176
She takes the guy out... Boom.
And then that's the end
of the shot.
1149
01:04:39,209 --> 01:04:41,645
She's just really cool.
1150
01:04:41,678 --> 01:04:43,613
Bounty for her
just might cover it.
1151
01:04:47,784 --> 01:04:49,186
I have three kids.
1152
01:04:49,219 --> 01:04:51,521
But there is nothing
I have ever done
1153
01:04:51,555 --> 01:04:53,423
that my son
has thought was cool...
1154
01:04:53,457 --> 01:04:54,624
until this.
1155
01:04:55,225 --> 01:04:57,061
-So, J.J.?
-Yes.
1156
01:04:57,094 --> 01:05:00,998
It will be the twirl on one,
and the pull out on action.
Okay.
1157
01:05:01,031 --> 01:05:02,967
So, Keri,
the gun goes up on action.
1158
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,868
-Two, one, action!
1159
01:05:06,536 --> 01:05:09,373
J.J. told me
he wanted it to be
1160
01:05:09,406 --> 01:05:12,676
always this kind of alluring,
wondering who she was.
1161
01:05:12,709 --> 01:05:16,246
Like, seeing people
and them not seeing you
is very unnerving.
1162
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,015
And action.
1163
01:05:18,048 --> 01:05:21,585
I've saved up
enough to get out.
I'm going to the Colonies.
1164
01:05:21,618 --> 01:05:23,320
Wanna come with me?
1165
01:05:23,353 --> 01:05:26,756
When the visor comes up
and you see those eyes,
1166
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:29,159
uh, that ended up being one
of my favorite scenes to shoot,
1167
01:05:29,193 --> 01:05:31,195
because it's a real moment
of connection.
1168
01:05:31,228 --> 01:05:34,364
And you often don't see
Poe vulnerable.
1169
01:05:34,398 --> 01:05:36,366
It's that way that sometimes
these people from your past
1170
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,136
that knew you
in a different light,
1171
01:05:39,169 --> 01:05:42,039
they say that thing
that reminds you of who you are.
1172
01:05:42,072 --> 01:05:44,041
The spectacular Keri Russell.
1173
01:06:04,794 --> 01:06:06,896
So, we're
in Babu Frik's droid shop,
1174
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:12,702
and we've made hundreds
of robot parts in the set dec
and props department.
1175
01:06:14,204 --> 01:06:17,274
And if you look up,
you'll see various heads,
1176
01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:20,577
some of which
have been seen before,
1177
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:23,447
some that are brand new.
1178
01:06:26,083 --> 01:06:28,018
Forever banging your head.
1179
01:06:28,052 --> 01:06:31,488
Possibly, for anyone who knows
the Ralph McQuarrie concepts,
1180
01:06:31,521 --> 01:06:33,590
and that's stuff based on his.
1181
01:06:33,623 --> 01:06:36,693
Well, intricacy
is closely interconnected
to a complete mess.
1182
01:06:36,726 --> 01:06:39,196
So, we've got one or the other,
I'm not sure which.
1183
01:06:39,229 --> 01:06:43,033
Our team is luckily
very well-versed in Star Wars.
1184
01:06:43,067 --> 01:06:47,337
"Greebles." Greebles
was a word apparently invented
on the first Star Wars film.
1185
01:06:47,371 --> 01:06:51,708
And, uh, there are numerous
pieces of greebly,
1186
01:06:51,741 --> 01:06:55,612
which is an English term
for "dressing" on the barge.
1187
01:06:55,645 --> 01:07:00,450
Aircraft pieces that are made
to look into a kind of
space configuration.
1188
01:07:00,484 --> 01:07:03,220
It's to make something look
more technologically advanced
1189
01:07:03,253 --> 01:07:05,021
than it actually is.
1190
01:07:05,055 --> 01:07:07,091
And it can be as simple as
1191
01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:11,128
just adding
a couple of little buttons
and a little shiny thing.
1192
01:07:11,161 --> 01:07:12,929
It can be a verb or a noun.
1193
01:07:12,962 --> 01:07:14,764
"We will greeble that."
1194
01:07:14,798 --> 01:07:17,234
"Find some greebles."
"We're out of greebles!"
1195
01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:19,936
This has taken, I think
it's about two to three months
1196
01:07:19,969 --> 01:07:21,905
to get this quantity of stuff.
1197
01:07:21,938 --> 01:07:25,642
And that's the team
working every day,
churning stuff out.
1198
01:07:25,675 --> 01:07:27,677
And we've also made
a very special gallery
1199
01:07:27,711 --> 01:07:31,381
of items to commemorate
the participation
of John Williams.
1200
01:07:32,449 --> 01:07:33,850
Here, let's do it.
1201
01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:35,652
John Williams was having lunch
with Kathy Kennedy,
1202
01:07:35,685 --> 01:07:38,255
and the idea of his being
in the movie came up.
1203
01:07:38,288 --> 01:07:41,691
Kathy told me,
and we were both like,
"Well, we have to do this."
1204
01:07:41,725 --> 01:07:43,560
I said, "No, I don't want that,
it's too silly,
1205
01:07:43,593 --> 01:07:46,096
I wouldn't possibly do that."
1206
01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:48,632
And then I mentioned it
to my wife, Samantha,
and she said,
1207
01:07:48,665 --> 01:07:50,900
"You have to, that's more
important than doing the score
of the film,
1208
01:07:50,934 --> 01:07:52,736
you gotta be in it."
1209
01:07:52,769 --> 01:07:55,172
Threepio looks at you,
and you just don't like him
at all,
1210
01:07:55,205 --> 01:07:57,874
and you can even
shake your head a bit
and go back to your thing.
1211
01:07:57,907 --> 01:08:00,677
And you just--
That's the moment,
and the camera will push in,
1212
01:08:01,945 --> 01:08:04,013
-and it'll be fantastic.
-Okay.
1213
01:08:04,047 --> 01:08:06,916
Do you mind if I
make a little, small,
embarrassing speech?
1214
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:08,718
Do you mind? Okay.
1215
01:08:10,154 --> 01:08:12,088
For anyone
who doesn't know,
1216
01:08:12,122 --> 01:08:13,823
and I think everyone does
and is probably giddy
in their own way,
1217
01:08:13,857 --> 01:08:16,493
but just to say it
so we're all well aware,
1218
01:08:16,526 --> 01:08:19,629
we are in the presence
of a supernatural genius,
1219
01:08:19,663 --> 01:08:22,432
someone
who does the impossible,
1220
01:08:22,466 --> 01:08:25,335
someone who is now an actor.
1221
01:08:25,369 --> 01:08:29,673
Ladies and gentlemen,
the one, the only maestro,
Mr. John Williams.
1222
01:08:36,313 --> 01:08:38,315
Forty years, this thing.
1223
01:08:38,348 --> 01:08:44,321
So we're gonna play now
the last piece here
which was the first piece then.
1224
01:08:44,354 --> 01:08:46,223
In 1976.
1225
01:08:46,256 --> 01:08:49,693
In 1976, when I was 12.
1226
01:08:49,726 --> 01:08:52,729
-Okay? And it sounds like this.
1227
01:08:53,497 --> 01:08:55,064
One, two, three...
1228
01:09:16,653 --> 01:09:18,888
When we recorded
the music of the first film,
1229
01:09:18,922 --> 01:09:22,992
none of us had any idea
that we'd ever hear the music
again.
1230
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:30,667
It feels very privileged
to have been able to do
all of them to this point.
1231
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:33,002
I don't think
there's anything quite like it
in the history of film.
1232
01:09:33,036 --> 01:09:36,673
But we had the opportunity
over decades
to take the same material,
1233
01:09:36,706 --> 01:09:39,609
use it again,
and add something to it
and revoice it and rework it.
1234
01:09:44,748 --> 01:09:48,117
Each and every time,
there's some amazing theme.
1235
01:09:48,151 --> 01:09:52,055
Something that, in three notes,
you know exactly what it is.
1236
01:09:52,088 --> 01:09:57,060
The music he writes
is so profoundly good
and impossibly moving,
1237
01:09:57,093 --> 01:09:59,529
you just can't believe
it didn't exist
before you hear it.
1238
01:10:02,932 --> 01:10:05,835
It's just,
it's very strange,
his superpower.
1239
01:10:05,869 --> 01:10:10,139
And equally amazing is just
his nearly insane humility.
1240
01:10:10,173 --> 01:10:14,143
Like, he writes something,
and then he'll conduct it,
and you're crying.
1241
01:10:14,177 --> 01:10:17,414
And he literally turns around,
he looks at you,
he's like, "Is that good?"
1242
01:10:17,447 --> 01:10:18,782
-That's good?
- Yeah.
1243
01:10:18,815 --> 01:10:20,850
All right. Let's go on.
1244
01:10:20,884 --> 01:10:26,390
All I can do is put notes
on a paper with a pencil,
and it stops there.
1245
01:10:26,423 --> 01:10:30,794
And I need an orchestra
to play the music,
and it stops there.
1246
01:10:30,827 --> 01:10:33,730
And then you need to have
the third element,
which is the audience,
1247
01:10:34,664 --> 01:10:36,966
sending back
what they send back.
1248
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,338
And that completes the circle,
and that is what
musical communication is about.
1249
01:10:43,139 --> 01:10:45,208
Watching him work is amazing,
1250
01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:47,076
and he's such a nice guy.
1251
01:10:52,416 --> 01:10:55,585
Rey's scene,
where Daisy-- That's for you.
1252
01:10:55,619 --> 01:10:58,488
- Okay. That's huge.
-All right?
1253
01:10:58,522 --> 01:11:00,424
-You see here, this is for you.
-I think I'm gonna cry.
1254
01:11:00,457 --> 01:11:01,791
Don't get
any fingerprints on it.
1255
01:11:03,460 --> 01:11:05,061
- Ah, come on!
1256
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,597
That's her first page.
1257
01:11:07,631 --> 01:11:09,999
He's had 51 Oscar nominations,
1258
01:11:10,033 --> 01:11:13,136
and we thought it would be fun
to do something
1259
01:11:13,169 --> 01:11:16,440
as a kind of celebration
of what he's done and who he is.
1260
01:11:16,473 --> 01:11:18,875
You are surrounded
by all this apparent junk.
1261
01:11:20,444 --> 01:11:24,448
Every single item
has been very purposely chosen
1262
01:11:24,481 --> 01:11:29,753
to represent one of the
51 Academy Award nominated
films that you've scored.
1263
01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:31,988
So, not only--
There's Hook over there
behind you.
1264
01:11:32,021 --> 01:11:34,424
-Oh, my God.
-This is Jaws.
1265
01:11:34,458 --> 01:11:35,559
There's ET,
1266
01:11:36,292 --> 01:11:38,528
Saving Private Ryan,
1267
01:11:38,562 --> 01:11:41,565
Tom Sawyer was a little
interesting to figure out.
We figured corn cob pipe...
1268
01:11:42,499 --> 01:11:44,368
That's from The Book Thief.
1269
01:11:44,401 --> 01:11:51,441
We've put letters
from the Star Wars
alphabet, Aurebesh, as J-T-W,
1270
01:11:51,475 --> 01:11:54,444
which is
John Williams's initials.
1271
01:11:54,478 --> 01:11:56,513
Oh, there's the whip
from Indiana Jones.
1272
01:11:56,546 --> 01:11:58,382
That's the iron from Home Alone.
1273
01:11:59,883 --> 01:12:02,486
-I mean,
literally, isn't it crazy?
-It is unbelievable.
1274
01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,754
-Isn't it incredible?
Each piece.
-Unbelievable.
1275
01:12:06,089 --> 01:12:08,858
This is ridiculous.
-It's great.
1276
01:12:08,892 --> 01:12:11,127
To have him in a movie
1277
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,330
and just see the man
that we've been listening to
all our lives,
1278
01:12:14,364 --> 01:12:16,265
who's been moving us
so profoundly,
1279
01:12:16,299 --> 01:12:18,935
it was a blast
to get to work with him
in that way, and he was so...
1280
01:12:19,769 --> 01:12:21,070
uh...
1281
01:12:21,104 --> 01:12:23,573
he was so lovely and seemed
to have a really good time.
1282
01:12:23,607 --> 01:12:27,343
Great energy. Here we go.
Set, three, two, one, action!
1283
01:12:30,847 --> 01:12:32,682
Cut!
That was fantastic.
1284
01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:36,553
Babu Frik?
Can you help us with this?
1285
01:12:36,586 --> 01:12:41,591
Now this is the one
that does the operation
on Threepio's circuitry, right?
1286
01:12:41,625 --> 01:12:43,860
Babu Frik is a rod puppet,
1287
01:12:43,893 --> 01:12:47,230
which goes back
to the ancient way of puppetry.
1288
01:12:47,263 --> 01:12:51,668
So it's, uh...
You have your puppet, and you
just stick rods on the limbs,
1289
01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:55,171
and puppeteers will move him,
breathe life into him.
1290
01:12:58,808 --> 01:13:01,578
That's great.
1291
01:13:04,147 --> 01:13:06,182
So that's
the simplest version of him.
1292
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:09,453
But obviously,
we would mechanize the fingers
and the toes and the face,
1293
01:13:09,486 --> 01:13:10,720
and all of those things.
1294
01:13:11,788 --> 01:13:13,623
Oh, my gosh. Look at that.
1295
01:13:13,657 --> 01:13:15,959
This is particularly small
for an animatronic head,
you know?
1296
01:13:15,992 --> 01:13:17,360
I'll bet.
1297
01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:22,198
And only in this tiny head,
there's 13 micro servos.
1298
01:13:22,231 --> 01:13:28,137
And they're all
individually powering
just so we can mix it up a bit.
1299
01:13:29,272 --> 01:13:31,975
You know,
on the original films,
1300
01:13:32,008 --> 01:13:36,312
I was never in
my dressing room,
you know?
1301
01:13:36,345 --> 01:13:42,452
When I wasn't in a scene,
they always knew I'd be
in Stuart Freeborn's shop.
1302
01:13:42,486 --> 01:13:45,755
I remember Stuart
whipping up the green foam
1303
01:13:45,789 --> 01:13:49,025
that they were gonna pour
into the Yoda mold.
1304
01:13:49,058 --> 01:13:52,195
He said, "Do you wanna
pour some?" I said,
"Yeah! Are you kidding me?"
1305
01:13:52,228 --> 01:13:56,966
The most complex one,
the most sophisticated one
is the smallest one.
1306
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,402
That is the Yoda.
1307
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:02,038
He's only two foot high,
1308
01:14:02,071 --> 01:14:08,277
and, of course,
he has to have all the animation
it's possible to give him,
1309
01:14:08,311 --> 01:14:10,914
which is difficult
in such a small creature.
1310
01:14:13,249 --> 01:14:14,984
He could even steal the picture.
1311
01:14:16,486 --> 01:14:18,888
And that would be great
if he does.
1312
01:14:20,724 --> 01:14:24,060
It's just such a small space
to work with.
1313
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:29,533
So, it's just getting
as many expressions
in this little head as possible.
1314
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:33,302
Partly because
it'll be great to have on set,
1315
01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:38,842
and partly because I
wanna prove to myself that
I can put a lot in a tiny head.
1316
01:14:40,877 --> 01:14:44,480
The more impossible
it is, and then in the end
you succeed in doing it,
1317
01:14:44,514 --> 01:14:48,117
that's when, of course,
it's that much more satisfying.
1318
01:14:48,151 --> 01:14:50,386
Keep in mind,
this is the first time
we're seeing him,
1319
01:14:50,419 --> 01:14:52,488
so he's gotta be, like, hero.
1320
01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:55,859
And maybe
some quicker blinks.
1321
01:14:55,892 --> 01:14:59,395
You know what I mean?
Just so that he's, like,
a little more, like, alert.
1322
01:14:59,428 --> 01:15:01,565
That helps.
Yeah, that's great.
1323
01:15:02,699 --> 01:15:05,869
Is that unusual,
for an actress to be doing that?
1324
01:15:05,902 --> 01:15:07,904
Or does she have
puppeteering experience?
1325
01:15:07,937 --> 01:15:09,839
Well, it's not common, no.
1326
01:15:09,873 --> 01:15:14,443
I met the creature team,
who are amazing,
and they handed me this machine
1327
01:15:14,477 --> 01:15:16,613
and said
I've got to learn how to
work the mouth very quickly.
1328
01:15:16,646 --> 01:15:19,382
And I didn't know
that was gonna happen,
so it was a bit frightening.
1329
01:15:19,415 --> 01:15:22,085
It's just--
Is the mouth working there?
Can you see?
1330
01:15:22,118 --> 01:15:23,086
So, if I do this...
1331
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:24,287
Ee, ee!
1332
01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:28,257
This is
actually the first time
we've done this.
1333
01:15:28,291 --> 01:15:31,728
Where we've had
the talent performing
the mouth
1334
01:15:31,761 --> 01:15:35,298
at the same time
as delivering the dialogue,
which is really good fun.
1335
01:15:35,331 --> 01:15:38,134
-'Cause she picked it up
really quickly.
-Thank you, Matt. Thank you.
1336
01:15:38,167 --> 01:15:41,705
A lot the time we would have
another puppeteer do the voice
on set,
1337
01:15:41,738 --> 01:15:44,240
and then they would dub it
in ADR afterwards.
1338
01:15:44,273 --> 01:15:46,175
But it's great, 'cause
the character's so strong,
1339
01:15:46,209 --> 01:15:48,645
and what Shirley's done
with the character is great.
1340
01:15:48,678 --> 01:15:51,314
So it's really good
to have that ability
1341
01:15:51,347 --> 01:15:54,117
for the other actors
to bounce off
what she's doing.
1342
01:15:54,150 --> 01:15:55,619
And action!
1343
01:15:57,954 --> 01:15:59,388
Perfect. Keep doing that.
1344
01:16:03,559 --> 01:16:05,061
Good. The looking up is great.
1345
01:16:06,796 --> 01:16:08,732
Okay, great. Yeah, uh...
1346
01:16:08,765 --> 01:16:12,636
I work on anybody
who needs an accent, but I also
make up new alien languages.
1347
01:16:12,669 --> 01:16:15,371
I was doing these things,
and Jill was hearing it,
1348
01:16:15,404 --> 01:16:17,807
and she was describing it as if,
like, things are shutting.
1349
01:16:17,841 --> 01:16:20,576
Like, things are clasping,
clasping like that.
1350
01:16:20,610 --> 01:16:22,545
-Or that kind of thing.
-We sort of, we played around--
1351
01:16:22,578 --> 01:16:25,949
And it was the beginning
of this sound to Babu,
trying to find Babu.
1352
01:16:25,982 --> 01:16:29,452
It's pretty great,
with the blank-blank,
the bye-bye.
1353
01:16:29,485 --> 01:16:32,055
This discovering it as you're--
And feeling it in your body,
1354
01:16:32,088 --> 01:16:33,422
but I believe it that way,
1355
01:16:33,456 --> 01:16:34,791
and I offered it up,
1356
01:16:34,824 --> 01:16:37,193
and then J.J. picks the bits
that he believes.
1357
01:16:38,895 --> 01:16:41,297
That's one of my favorite
little plot twists,
1358
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:43,266
Threepio losing his memory.
1359
01:16:43,299 --> 01:16:44,801
Rich with comic potential,
1360
01:16:44,834 --> 01:16:48,371
because, you know,
he's sort of written
to get on people's nerves,
1361
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:51,808
but he always
had really funny lines.
1362
01:16:51,841 --> 01:16:54,778
"I'd forgotten
how much I abhor space travel."
1363
01:16:54,811 --> 01:16:56,445
You know?
1364
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,249
I'd always picture
Threepio would be much happier
at the opera
1365
01:17:00,283 --> 01:17:04,153
serving hors d'oeuvres instead
of rattling through space.
1366
01:17:04,187 --> 01:17:08,357
Threepio is, uh, I think,
very like an English butler.
1367
01:17:08,391 --> 01:17:11,861
He's the particularly British
sort of person.
1368
01:17:11,895 --> 01:17:15,498
Very archaic
and rather out of his time.
1369
01:17:15,531 --> 01:17:17,967
And action!
1370
01:17:18,001 --> 01:17:20,904
And consequently,
he finds all the things
that happen in Star Wars,
1371
01:17:20,937 --> 01:17:25,975
you know, the battles,
the explosions, all the nasty
characters like Darth Vader,
1372
01:17:26,009 --> 01:17:27,711
he finds that very worrying.
1373
01:17:27,744 --> 01:17:30,179
Tony, look.
1374
01:17:31,614 --> 01:17:34,650
Threepio's in some ways
the observer of all things
1375
01:17:34,684 --> 01:17:37,020
and the memory of the saga.
1376
01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:39,188
So when we were playing
with different plots
for Threepio,
1377
01:17:39,222 --> 01:17:43,727
it felt like it was in his DNA
that one of the plots
was "he should lose his memory,"
1378
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,063
because he's always the one
who's observing and commenting
on everything.
1379
01:17:47,096 --> 01:17:53,002
And if Threepio loses
his memory, it's as though
the crawl would disappear,
1380
01:17:53,036 --> 01:17:56,439
because Threepio
is the keeper of the story.
1381
01:17:56,472 --> 01:17:58,942
You're gonna have the back
of your head off now in this,
1382
01:17:58,975 --> 01:18:00,676
and the wires will be
coming from that.
1383
01:18:00,710 --> 01:18:02,145
We make him translate it...
1384
01:18:03,112 --> 01:18:05,014
he won't remember... anything?
1385
01:18:05,048 --> 01:18:08,284
Droid, remember go blank.
1386
01:18:08,317 --> 01:18:09,218
Blank, blank.
1387
01:18:13,823 --> 01:18:17,493
If this mission fails,
then it's all been for nothing.
1388
01:18:17,526 --> 01:18:21,397
All we've done, all this time.
1389
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:24,233
Often Star Wars characters
sacrifice themselves.
1390
01:18:24,267 --> 01:18:26,435
I mean, think of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
1391
01:18:26,469 --> 01:18:28,805
He went to battle the dark side,
Darth Vader,
1392
01:18:28,838 --> 01:18:30,807
and sacrificed himself
for everybody.
1393
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,476
And now Threepio's
doing the same thing.
1394
01:18:33,509 --> 01:18:36,379
And, you know,
he's not too ready to do it,
1395
01:18:36,412 --> 01:18:39,949
because he's going
to be destroyed as himself.
1396
01:18:41,484 --> 01:18:43,619
There'll be a spark,
which we'll probably hear.
1397
01:18:43,652 --> 01:18:45,521
-Yeah.
-As soon as you hear the
1398
01:18:45,554 --> 01:18:46,990
you can just go.
1399
01:18:47,023 --> 01:18:48,524
Action,
working, working, working.
1400
01:18:52,528 --> 01:18:54,798
Three, two, one, spark.
1401
01:18:56,265 --> 01:18:59,135
The fact that Threepio
is willing to sacrifice himself
1402
01:18:59,168 --> 01:19:02,105
is because he belongs
to the team.
1403
01:19:02,138 --> 01:19:04,540
He loves the team, the humans.
1404
01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:08,912
With Threepio, I really,
I think he's one of the more
human characters in the film.
1405
01:19:09,846 --> 01:19:11,380
Might I introduce myself.
1406
01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:15,952
I am C-3PO,
human-cyborg relations.
And you are?
1407
01:19:15,985 --> 01:19:17,453
Okay,
that's gonna be a problem.
1408
01:19:17,486 --> 01:19:20,523
Hello. I Babu Frik.
1409
01:19:20,556 --> 01:19:22,558
And then, even from right here,
you're going to be like,
1410
01:19:22,591 --> 01:19:23,860
-"That's going to be--"
-"That's going to be a problem."
1411
01:19:23,893 --> 01:19:25,194
Yeah, there you go.
1412
01:19:25,228 --> 01:19:27,630
-Classic.
- You got classic Poe.
1413
01:19:27,663 --> 01:19:30,233
And then, we might actually go
from Zorii's line
1414
01:19:30,266 --> 01:19:33,369
to the close-up of
Babu saying "Go, go, go."
1415
01:19:33,903 --> 01:19:35,238
And action.
1416
01:19:36,639 --> 01:19:39,542
Go, go, go!
1417
01:19:40,643 --> 01:19:45,381
Go!
1418
01:19:48,918 --> 01:19:53,122
-Go!
1419
01:19:55,324 --> 01:19:56,459
All right, cut.
1420
01:19:56,492 --> 01:19:58,661
Oh, my gosh. It's ridiculous.
1421
01:19:58,694 --> 01:20:00,864
Can you imagine we did that?
1422
01:20:00,897 --> 01:20:05,134
-The scene ended
with a 20-second "Go!"
1423
01:20:06,269 --> 01:20:07,904
Oh, my God.
It's hysterical.
1424
01:20:07,937 --> 01:20:09,538
All right. We're good.
Thank you.
1425
01:20:17,881 --> 01:20:19,048
-Good morning.
-Hey, good morning.
1426
01:20:19,082 --> 01:20:19,949
-How's it going?
-Good.
1427
01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:24,153
That should be all right.
1428
01:20:24,187 --> 01:20:26,155
It's just the biggest
thing I've ever seen.
1429
01:20:26,189 --> 01:20:31,027
It's, like, more people than
I've ever seen concentrating
on one thing at a time.
1430
01:20:32,929 --> 01:20:35,664
It would be up there a bit,
just because of the scale of it.
1431
01:20:35,698 --> 01:20:37,666
- Yes.
-If you look at it
from a wide shot,
1432
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:39,735
-you'd see an arc.
-Perfect, okay, great.
1433
01:20:39,768 --> 01:20:41,637
-Hey, Naomi.
-Hello.
1434
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:44,473
The atmosphere
is just so friendly
and like, welcoming.
1435
01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:46,342
It's backwards.
And you look into it.
1436
01:20:48,644 --> 01:20:51,647
It is also really lovely to see
the whole cast come together
1437
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,651
and to know that
I'm, like, the new girl, but,
like, part of that same team,
1438
01:20:55,684 --> 01:20:57,320
part of that same family.
1439
01:20:57,353 --> 01:20:59,855
It makes
the bigness of this film
a little bit more personal.
1440
01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:02,058
Horse positions, please.
1441
01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:05,628
All right. Here we go.
1442
01:21:07,596 --> 01:21:11,434
Lens, ready, set,
and go, Jannah, action!
1443
01:21:11,467 --> 01:21:12,801
Action, horses.
1444
01:21:12,835 --> 01:21:14,303
Rough landing?
1445
01:21:14,337 --> 01:21:16,405
- I've seen worse.
-I've seen better.
1446
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,408
My first day of Star Wars
was definitely memorable.
1447
01:21:19,442 --> 01:21:21,444
It was like
a stimulation overload.
1448
01:21:21,477 --> 01:21:23,346
It was just, like,
all of the things.
1449
01:21:23,379 --> 01:21:27,650
Like, so many people,
so many animals, so many flies.
1450
01:21:29,618 --> 01:21:33,822
All the flying ants
rise up from the ground
1451
01:21:33,856 --> 01:21:37,526
and decide that it's their time
to do whatever they've
got to do in the air.
1452
01:21:38,827 --> 01:21:40,829
The bugs, man.
It was funny on set, you know?
1453
01:21:40,863 --> 01:21:43,166
When stuff like that happens,
we all react in a normal way,
1454
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:44,767
laugh about it
and keep on moving.
1455
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,003
They swarm you, then ate you.
1456
01:21:47,036 --> 01:21:49,973
They were stuck everywhere.
1457
01:21:56,612 --> 01:21:57,513
Buggy planet.
1458
01:22:00,716 --> 01:22:01,650
How about that?
1459
01:22:03,652 --> 01:22:05,021
They got caught in my 'fro.
1460
01:22:05,054 --> 01:22:06,990
Um, it was a lot.
1461
01:22:08,024 --> 01:22:09,658
That's filmmaking.
1462
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:13,096
You can't control those things,
but you still get the job done.
1463
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:22,105
Unfortunately,
our stormy planet isn't quite
so stormy at the moment,
1464
01:22:22,138 --> 01:22:24,840
so sadly,
we're waiting out the sun.
1465
01:22:30,546 --> 01:22:33,649
Just the practicality of
working under those conditions,
1466
01:22:33,682 --> 01:22:35,951
there are different issues
that that creates,
1467
01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:38,487
challenges
that you have to overcome.
1468
01:22:38,521 --> 01:22:40,056
Hey, so we're going to
give up on this shot,
1469
01:22:40,089 --> 01:22:41,524
'cause it's never
going to get cloudy
1470
01:22:41,557 --> 01:22:43,426
and it's gonna keep getting
more and more front lit.
1471
01:22:43,459 --> 01:22:45,494
So we'll bail on this shot.
We'll do it another time.
1472
01:22:45,528 --> 01:22:47,396
We should move the shoot
and go down below,
to the low level.
1473
01:22:49,565 --> 01:22:51,500
Here we go. Clear frame.
And we are rolling.
1474
01:22:52,168 --> 01:22:53,436
Crane, action.
1475
01:23:01,110 --> 01:23:03,146
Seven of them
are heading up the hill.
1476
01:23:03,179 --> 01:23:06,082
And we see out
into the stormy madness beyond,
1477
01:23:06,115 --> 01:23:08,051
and we see the wreck
out that way.
1478
01:23:08,084 --> 01:23:11,587
One of the ideas
J.J. brought back to Episode IX
1479
01:23:11,620 --> 01:23:14,290
that initially he had thought
of in the early days
of Episode VII,
1480
01:23:14,323 --> 01:23:17,093
was going to a crashed piece
of the Death Star.
1481
01:23:18,894 --> 01:23:21,797
I was just fascinated
with the question of,
1482
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:24,800
"What is it to live
in the aftermath
of everything that we saw
1483
01:23:24,833 --> 01:23:26,335
in the original trilogy?"
1484
01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:33,376
So the idea of pieces of things
that we have seen
1485
01:23:33,409 --> 01:23:35,944
that had been blown apart...
1486
01:23:39,282 --> 01:23:44,019
There was just something
that was kind of haunting
about it and kind of beautiful.
1487
01:23:45,388 --> 01:23:47,290
It was one of those things
1488
01:23:47,323 --> 01:23:50,859
that felt like an idea
that you have
suddenly finds its purpose.
1489
01:23:52,861 --> 01:23:55,598
For a long time,
we knew that there was going
to be a moment in the story
1490
01:23:55,631 --> 01:23:58,234
when we're going to see
the Death Star.
1491
01:23:58,267 --> 01:24:01,770
First thing we wanted to do
is go up into the archives
1492
01:24:01,804 --> 01:24:04,107
and take a look
at the original model
for the Star.
1493
01:24:04,140 --> 01:24:06,909
Look at this
weird core thing.
1494
01:24:06,942 --> 01:24:11,046
If we could get some of that
into our approach to Rey.
1495
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,849
So we went up,
took a bunch of photos.
1496
01:24:13,882 --> 01:24:19,855
We wanted to really understand
the curvature that houses
the dish,
1497
01:24:19,888 --> 01:24:22,024
and then the texture itself.
1498
01:24:22,057 --> 01:24:25,461
The texture of the Death Star
is just as identifiable.
1499
01:24:25,494 --> 01:24:27,363
You can see
these kind of banding,
1500
01:24:27,396 --> 01:24:29,198
which,
when you get really close,
you understand,
1501
01:24:29,232 --> 01:24:32,868
"Oh, my God.
One of those bands is actually
the trench Luke flies down."
1502
01:24:36,004 --> 01:24:41,477
We came across
a really big issue in that it is
completely, ridiculously huge,
1503
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:44,447
and found out that it was
about 90 miles across.
1504
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,549
It's too deep
to fit in the ocean,
1505
01:24:46,582 --> 01:24:49,452
and it's too tall
to fit into the atmosphere.
1506
01:24:49,485 --> 01:24:54,857
So we found out
that we could just barely fit
the dish way out on the horizon.
1507
01:24:54,890 --> 01:24:58,861
That, we're pretty happy with.
And J.J. looked at it and said,
1508
01:24:58,894 --> 01:25:02,331
"It's a little too convenient
that we just happen to
come across the dish."
1509
01:25:02,365 --> 01:25:04,233
So we kind of reset.
1510
01:25:04,267 --> 01:25:06,335
Maybe it would have
just a piece of the shell,
1511
01:25:06,369 --> 01:25:08,637
with a little bit of the dish
left in there
1512
01:25:08,671 --> 01:25:11,106
to hopefully recognize it
as what it is.
1513
01:25:13,276 --> 01:25:14,443
From the sky, BB-8.
1514
01:25:15,544 --> 01:25:18,647
It's a bad place
from an old war.
1515
01:25:18,681 --> 01:25:21,083
And then she'll pull out the
blade and watch it widen out.
1516
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:24,587
Even while we were dealing
with these big epic things
in this movie,
1517
01:25:24,620 --> 01:25:28,090
we found that
the smallest details
could sink you,
1518
01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:31,760
like the way
that the blade interacts with
the next stage of the journey.
1519
01:25:31,794 --> 01:25:34,463
Trying to get that right
became a real challenge.
1520
01:25:36,031 --> 01:25:39,067
This one here,
we was talking about it
being on leathers, or you know--
1521
01:25:39,101 --> 01:25:41,537
So when it was flat,
in the sunlight,
1522
01:25:41,570 --> 01:25:43,339
you could literally see
all the way through it.
1523
01:25:43,372 --> 01:25:46,909
It could just be much more
of a simple slab or tablet.
1524
01:25:46,942 --> 01:25:49,578
To be honest, the scrolls,
it feels like a physical object.
1525
01:25:49,612 --> 01:25:50,513
Yeah, right.
1526
01:25:51,780 --> 01:25:52,781
I don't know.
1527
01:25:54,417 --> 01:25:55,818
Ah, this thing.
1528
01:25:55,851 --> 01:25:57,753
You know, this particular item,
1529
01:25:57,786 --> 01:25:59,922
it's just been something
we've been kind of,
not struggling with,
1530
01:25:59,955 --> 01:26:02,691
I think it's struggling
with the whole idea
of where it leads,
1531
01:26:02,725 --> 01:26:04,693
just because
it's such a story point.
1532
01:26:04,727 --> 01:26:07,363
If the right idea showed up, it
would actually help the story.
1533
01:26:07,396 --> 01:26:09,097
So it's helpful
to look at these,
1534
01:26:09,131 --> 01:26:11,066
but I don't know
if any of these
are the right idea.
1535
01:26:11,099 --> 01:26:14,102
It would have been--
We're saying it was made
after the...
1536
01:26:14,136 --> 01:26:15,838
-After the events... Jedi.
-Second Death Star.
1537
01:26:15,871 --> 01:26:17,873
The second Death Star,
to pass on the information
1538
01:26:17,906 --> 01:26:20,543
about where the wayfinder
was to other Sith.
1539
01:26:20,576 --> 01:26:22,945
Like, would it
have to have been hardier
1540
01:26:22,978 --> 01:26:25,881
because it would've had to pass
from hand to hand to hand?
1541
01:26:26,549 --> 01:26:27,850
But, like this.
1542
01:26:27,883 --> 01:26:29,818
We've all seen knives
that have a shape.
1543
01:26:29,852 --> 01:26:32,355
If that cool design happened to
have a function, it was a map.
1544
01:26:32,388 --> 01:26:37,092
What are options
for ways that things
could be pulled out from,
1545
01:26:37,125 --> 01:26:40,896
or extracted from,
or removed from,
or adjusted on a knife?
1546
01:26:40,929 --> 01:26:43,866
I was imagining
sort of something where
it's like if this came down,
1547
01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:46,034
-it would be one thing.
-Yeah. One thing.
1548
01:26:46,068 --> 01:26:48,404
And I just love the arrow.
So that's where it is.
1549
01:26:49,338 --> 01:26:50,473
-That's cool.
-That's good.
1550
01:26:55,478 --> 01:26:56,712
The wayfinder's there.
1551
01:27:10,759 --> 01:27:12,628
So, for the interior Death Star,
1552
01:27:12,661 --> 01:27:15,464
J.J. wanted this to sound
like this creepy haunted house.
1553
01:27:17,433 --> 01:27:22,405
Scary winds,
creepy metal creaks,
weird whistling sounds...
1554
01:27:22,438 --> 01:27:25,040
And so we just
kind of, by accident,
1555
01:27:25,073 --> 01:27:30,078
happened to find this structure
that was made out of
shipping containers.
1556
01:27:30,112 --> 01:27:31,814
So, it was a really windy day,
1557
01:27:31,847 --> 01:27:34,350
and it was the craziest sound
when we were inside,
1558
01:27:34,383 --> 01:27:37,353
all that metal and creak
and banging.
1559
01:27:41,290 --> 01:27:43,058
It was like,
"Oh, this is the Death Star.
1560
01:27:43,091 --> 01:27:44,960
This is exactly going to work
for the Death Star."
1561
01:27:54,337 --> 01:27:57,239
What more fitting place for Rey
and Ren to have their meeting
1562
01:27:57,272 --> 01:28:00,275
than literally on the ruins
of the war that came before?
1563
01:28:04,046 --> 01:28:08,083
We thought, "Well, surely
the place that they have to meet
is in the throne room,
1564
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:13,021
which involves both
of their grandfathers and
involves their shared history."
1565
01:28:23,231 --> 01:28:25,401
Young Skywalker.
1566
01:28:27,836 --> 01:28:29,972
You will die.
1567
01:28:30,005 --> 01:28:33,809
We are currently
looking at a legacy set
designed by Norman Reynolds,
1568
01:28:33,842 --> 01:28:35,243
which is the throne room.
1569
01:28:35,277 --> 01:28:37,913
It involved building it
all pristine,
1570
01:28:37,946 --> 01:28:39,548
originally, from
the original blueprints,
1571
01:28:39,582 --> 01:28:41,283
and then destroying it.
1572
01:28:41,316 --> 01:28:45,654
We managed to fish out
of the archives
some of these blueprints,
1573
01:28:45,688 --> 01:28:48,457
original drawings
from the original set build.
1574
01:28:48,491 --> 01:28:52,194
And from this, I was able
to recreate this in 3-D,
1575
01:28:52,227 --> 01:28:56,732
so we created complete models
of the original throne room.
1576
01:28:56,765 --> 01:28:58,967
So, this mezzanine level here,
1577
01:28:59,001 --> 01:29:02,070
we imagined that it
entirely collapsed through,
1578
01:29:02,104 --> 01:29:06,375
so you get this really nice
full view of the window there,
which is all destroyed.
1579
01:29:11,079 --> 01:29:13,081
This is the Emperor's throne,
1580
01:29:13,115 --> 01:29:17,720
and it's fallen
from the floor above
down into this floor,
1581
01:29:17,753 --> 01:29:21,089
which is where
Darth Vader and Luke
fought for a bit.
1582
01:29:23,158 --> 01:29:28,797
When you're building
destroyed sets, it's very hard
for it not to look fake,
1583
01:29:28,831 --> 01:29:30,566
like it's been cut with a saw.
1584
01:29:31,634 --> 01:29:33,802
So Claire drove
over it with a forklift.
1585
01:29:33,836 --> 01:29:37,540
I drove over panels
to make it look better, yeah.
1586
01:29:37,573 --> 01:29:38,941
Let's try one, please.
1587
01:29:38,974 --> 01:29:40,443
And you can see it
in everyone's faces
1588
01:29:40,476 --> 01:29:43,078
when they walk on that set,
1589
01:29:43,111 --> 01:29:46,014
and the throne,
they're just like,
"Can I sit on it?"
1590
01:29:46,048 --> 01:29:49,452
And you're like, "No.
You're not allowed."
1591
01:29:52,187 --> 01:29:55,524
What was never
in the original films
is a secret vault room,
1592
01:29:55,558 --> 01:29:57,460
accessed through
his throne room.
1593
01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:07,770
So we've
taken a bit of liberty and said
actually it was always there,
1594
01:30:07,803 --> 01:30:09,472
you just didn't notice it.
1595
01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:16,144
The idea that
she's so crazy powerful
with the Force,
1596
01:30:16,178 --> 01:30:17,513
you know, so quickly,
1597
01:30:19,014 --> 01:30:21,917
for us, we always felt
that there was a connection
1598
01:30:21,950 --> 01:30:25,888
between her and something
that would help explain
some of these things.
1599
01:30:28,891 --> 01:30:34,329
Obviously, you know,
it needs to feel like
she is really contemplating it.
1600
01:30:34,362 --> 01:30:38,400
And that, the need for revenge,
it sort of overtakes
everything else,
1601
01:30:38,433 --> 01:30:39,868
which it does for a moment,
1602
01:30:39,902 --> 01:30:42,671
and then she's sort of reminded
of what it all means
1603
01:30:42,705 --> 01:30:44,039
and what's at stake.
1604
01:30:48,043 --> 01:30:49,745
Right from Episode VII,
1605
01:30:49,778 --> 01:30:52,247
from the scene in which
Rey is interrogated by Ren,
1606
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,584
is clear
that they have a connection,
that they understand each other,
1607
01:30:55,618 --> 01:30:58,320
that they can literally
read each other's minds.
1608
01:30:58,353 --> 01:31:02,290
They're made uncomfortable
by it, and yet they're
both drawn to each other.
1609
01:31:02,324 --> 01:31:06,161
Of course, Episode VIII
furthered it by creating
the idea of Force connection,
1610
01:31:06,194 --> 01:31:09,031
and I think what we wanted to do
was complicate that and say,
1611
01:31:09,064 --> 01:31:13,802
"Actually, their connection
is deeper than that."
1612
01:31:13,836 --> 01:31:16,805
We began talking about them
as a mythic concept,
1613
01:31:16,839 --> 01:31:20,008
which is in Joseph Campbell,
which is the mythic dyad,
1614
01:31:20,042 --> 01:31:22,645
that they're two parts
of the same whole.
1615
01:31:22,678 --> 01:31:25,247
And then finally
we began talking about how,
1616
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,484
if the dyad ever came together,
its power would be immeasurable.
1617
01:31:31,687 --> 01:31:33,288
When we first read the script,
1618
01:31:33,321 --> 01:31:36,959
I offered to J.J. that we
could do some wave effects.
1619
01:31:36,992 --> 01:31:39,628
And at first he was kind of,
"Yeah, yeah.
Good idea, good idea."
1620
01:31:39,662 --> 01:31:41,229
And then we showed him
some tests.
1621
01:31:41,263 --> 01:31:43,532
- Wow.
- Wow. Beautiful.
1622
01:31:43,566 --> 01:31:45,668
-That's insane.
1623
01:31:45,701 --> 01:31:47,570
That is amazing.
That's so cool.
1624
01:31:47,603 --> 01:31:49,605
That's 15 cameras there.
1625
01:31:49,638 --> 01:31:51,106
I think that we would do,
I mean--
1626
01:31:51,139 --> 01:31:52,741
- We can let five go--
- Exactly.
1627
01:31:52,775 --> 01:31:55,377
And we'd be filling up
at the same time.
1628
01:31:55,410 --> 01:31:57,713
That really is my favorite thing
I've ever seen.
1629
01:31:57,746 --> 01:32:00,048
It's like, "Oscar, can you
just come for a meeting?"
1630
01:32:00,082 --> 01:32:01,717
-"But I'm not in that--"
1631
01:32:01,750 --> 01:32:03,251
"No, I just want you to sit,
sit right there."
1632
01:32:03,285 --> 01:32:05,220
"Stand over there."
1633
01:32:05,253 --> 01:32:07,122
That's incredible.
That's awesome.
1634
01:32:20,402 --> 01:32:22,304
We knew that there
was going to be a central fight,
1635
01:32:22,337 --> 01:32:25,641
and we wanted it
to be the saber battle
of all saber battles.
1636
01:32:25,674 --> 01:32:29,778
We really started thinking
about making it
as operatic as possible,
1637
01:32:29,812 --> 01:32:34,349
and sort of reducing the scene
to just them
and the elements around them,
1638
01:32:34,382 --> 01:32:39,287
so that the epic quality
of this duel would be matched
by the surroundings.
1639
01:32:43,225 --> 01:32:45,894
Girl, let's go.
Come on. Time to go.
1640
01:32:48,764 --> 01:32:51,366
The fight felt so ferocious.
1641
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:57,673
It needed to be
really full of, like,
rage and incomprehension
1642
01:32:57,706 --> 01:32:59,041
and all of that.
1643
01:33:00,909 --> 01:33:04,747
Rey needs to go on her own,
very individual journey.
1644
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:08,751
That side of things doesn't
involve Finn, doesn't involve
Leia, doesn't involve Poe,
1645
01:33:08,784 --> 01:33:09,785
no one else.
1646
01:33:10,185 --> 01:33:11,186
Rey!
1647
01:33:12,020 --> 01:33:12,955
No!
1648
01:33:15,157 --> 01:33:16,558
The thing
that became more challenging is
1649
01:33:16,591 --> 01:33:17,926
we were being
doused in water cannons
1650
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:19,561
and it was November in England.
1651
01:33:19,594 --> 01:33:22,397
The water would come,
I would be like...
1652
01:33:22,430 --> 01:33:24,933
"I can't breathe" kind of cold.
1653
01:33:25,567 --> 01:33:26,769
Hot water bottle.
1654
01:33:27,670 --> 01:33:29,938
It's freezing.
That was fun.
1655
01:33:31,807 --> 01:33:33,375
It was really
physically exhausting,
1656
01:33:33,408 --> 01:33:37,612
and we were,
like, wet and soaked
and cold and on wires.
1657
01:33:37,646 --> 01:33:39,381
I loved it, you know?
1658
01:33:39,414 --> 01:33:42,785
It's like,
how many times are you going to
get a chance to do that?
1659
01:33:42,818 --> 01:33:46,188
I did want
to murder Dom, Special Effects,
1660
01:33:46,221 --> 01:33:49,825
because there were a few times
where they said,
"No water cannons,"
1661
01:33:49,858 --> 01:33:56,765
and when I say mid-scene,
literally a dump of water
on my head.
1662
01:33:56,799 --> 01:34:02,404
I remember watching
the top of the water
just starting to come over,
1663
01:34:02,437 --> 01:34:07,009
and I watched it
like slow-motion
as it rained down on Daisy.
1664
01:34:07,042 --> 01:34:09,477
And the true professional
that she was, she carried on,
1665
01:34:09,511 --> 01:34:14,149
but I could see in her body
that she kind of tensed
because it was cold.
1666
01:34:14,182 --> 01:34:16,651
And as the water settled
and they said, "Cut,"
1667
01:34:16,685 --> 01:34:20,756
she shouted out very loudly,
"Dominic!"
1668
01:34:20,789 --> 01:34:23,692
Which I didn't want to be
on the set
at that moment in time.
1669
01:34:23,726 --> 01:34:27,996
But then people really thought
I was really tough after that.
1670
01:34:28,030 --> 01:34:29,698
And J.J. was like,
"You have so much crew respect."
1671
01:34:29,732 --> 01:34:30,733
So it was great.
1672
01:34:32,034 --> 01:34:33,836
It was actually my birthday,
one of those days.
1673
01:34:33,869 --> 01:34:35,637
I don't know
if that means anything.
1674
01:34:35,670 --> 01:34:38,473
It's not like
I wanted to kill her more
because it was my birthday,
1675
01:34:38,506 --> 01:34:40,008
but it was really exciting.
1676
01:34:43,445 --> 01:34:47,382
Huge water cannons are shooting
how many thousands of gallons.
1677
01:34:51,219 --> 01:34:53,856
You're exhausted, you're tired.
It's like-- It's great.
1678
01:34:53,889 --> 01:34:56,291
It's what you
kind of hope work is.
1679
01:35:01,930 --> 01:35:03,065
Ben.
1680
01:35:17,746 --> 01:35:22,084
Kylo's journey really opened
my imagination as an actor.
1681
01:35:24,219 --> 01:35:26,889
Things had come to
almost full circle with him.
1682
01:35:26,922 --> 01:35:30,793
For the first time, someone
had shown him what I think
maybe he perceived as, uh...
1683
01:35:32,094 --> 01:35:35,798
a huge act of generosity
in spite of what he had done.
1684
01:35:39,467 --> 01:35:43,071
Someone, like,
kind of reached out when
no one else had for a long time.
1685
01:35:54,382 --> 01:35:56,018
I know
what I have to do...
1686
01:35:56,051 --> 01:35:58,586
but I don't know
if I have the strength
to do it.
1687
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:04,659
Repeating
the same exact scene from
The Force Awakens line by line,
1688
01:36:04,692 --> 01:36:09,597
I thought was a really
beautiful way of showing
"Is he real? Is he not real?"
1689
01:36:09,631 --> 01:36:14,236
"Is it a conversation
that he's been having for years
in his head on repeat?"
1690
01:36:14,702 --> 01:36:15,838
You do.
1691
01:36:19,141 --> 01:36:22,110
It's both ambiguous
and totally clear.
1692
01:36:24,212 --> 01:36:27,749
It's not
that I wanted Han Solo to die,
1693
01:36:27,782 --> 01:36:33,788
I wanted Han Solo to
be able to lend some significant
emotional weight to the story.
1694
01:36:34,890 --> 01:36:38,193
His destiny is resolved
1695
01:36:38,226 --> 01:36:42,564
in a, I hope,
a powerful
and effective way.
1696
01:36:49,237 --> 01:36:51,639
The theme
of redemption is important,
1697
01:36:51,673 --> 01:36:53,942
not just in Star Wars,
but in life.
1698
01:36:53,976 --> 01:36:56,244
I mean, no one's perfect.
1699
01:36:56,278 --> 01:36:59,014
Jedis make mistakes.
1700
01:37:03,551 --> 01:37:05,520
I think it's comforting,
1701
01:37:05,553 --> 01:37:11,326
the idea that despite having
done wrong, either intentionally
or unintentionally,
1702
01:37:11,359 --> 01:37:15,197
they are able to
right those wrongs
and be forgiven.
1703
01:37:18,633 --> 01:37:22,437
It was probably nice for Mark
to be more like the Luke of old.
1704
01:37:23,671 --> 01:37:26,942
Which I think J.J. felt like
he really wanted that.
1705
01:37:28,610 --> 01:37:30,778
It was nice to feel,
and even in the scene,
1706
01:37:30,812 --> 01:37:35,850
to feel really comforted that,
like,
"Luke Skywalker is here."
1707
01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:46,929
That's kind of good.
1708
01:37:51,433 --> 01:37:53,635
-All right.
1709
01:38:03,545 --> 01:38:06,748
I wanted to find a way to show
that Luke, even in death,
1710
01:38:06,781 --> 01:38:10,318
was a Jedi Master who
was helping the next generation.
1711
01:38:12,955 --> 01:38:14,522
We thought about
Empire Strikes Back
1712
01:38:14,556 --> 01:38:18,593
and how the one thing Luke
doesn't manage to do in Empire
1713
01:38:18,626 --> 01:38:21,930
is raise his X-wing
out of the swamp in Dagobah.
1714
01:38:21,964 --> 01:38:26,068
When we saw in Episode VIII
that the X-wing
was under the water,
1715
01:38:26,101 --> 01:38:29,972
we thought,
"Well, maybe this is the way
to bring it full circle."
1716
01:38:57,599 --> 01:38:58,533
Looks good.
1717
01:38:59,634 --> 01:39:00,702
Proud moment, yes.
1718
01:39:07,775 --> 01:39:14,016
I hope that if there is any
lasting legacy of the character,
1719
01:39:14,049 --> 01:39:20,255
is the idea that
you can accomplish anything
you want if you are selfless,
1720
01:39:20,288 --> 01:39:23,958
and willing to do what's right
for the greater good.
1721
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,563
You know,
he was a symbol of optimism,
1722
01:39:28,596 --> 01:39:33,668
and I think that's
probably the most satisfying
aspect of the character.
1723
01:39:40,775 --> 01:39:45,380
He is every boy or girl
who yearns for adventure,
1724
01:39:45,413 --> 01:39:48,183
who thinks this
can't be all there is.
1725
01:39:57,425 --> 01:39:59,361
When the Resistance loses Leia,
1726
01:39:59,394 --> 01:40:04,732
Poe finds himself inheriting
a Resistance that's
on the brink of collapse.
1727
01:40:06,601 --> 01:40:11,273
It's clear that
Leia had been grooming him
for leadership, but what he--
1728
01:40:11,306 --> 01:40:13,741
He doesn't know if there's
anything to lead at this point.
1729
01:40:15,277 --> 01:40:18,680
That scene
wasn't originally in the film.
1730
01:40:18,713 --> 01:40:22,717
And I talked to J.J. about,
"Well, I think that
it'd be great
1731
01:40:22,750 --> 01:40:27,021
to just see a moment
that Poe has with Leia.
1732
01:40:27,055 --> 01:40:29,091
Even just a moment
for him to say goodbye."
1733
01:40:30,225 --> 01:40:33,095
That speaks to J.J.'s ability
to try things.
1734
01:40:34,662 --> 01:40:35,963
I'm not ready.
1735
01:40:35,997 --> 01:40:37,865
Neither were we.
1736
01:40:37,899 --> 01:40:40,034
And so,
out of that moment of goodbye,
1737
01:40:40,068 --> 01:40:44,972
Lando shows up and reminds him
about family and about friends,
1738
01:40:45,006 --> 01:40:47,008
and about not being alone.
1739
01:40:47,041 --> 01:40:48,410
We had each other.
1740
01:40:50,178 --> 01:40:51,746
We were friends.
1741
01:40:53,915 --> 01:40:58,653
It turned into this
catalyst for, "You know what?
We still have a shot."
1742
01:41:01,456 --> 01:41:07,862
Something as large
as Star Wars, which is
a very complicated movie,
1743
01:41:07,895 --> 01:41:14,068
it really needs a lot of people,
all working together
to make it happen.
1744
01:41:14,102 --> 01:41:17,372
The ending,
the last couple of reels
of this movie...
1745
01:41:17,405 --> 01:41:21,543
the number of people
who are involved
1746
01:41:21,576 --> 01:41:27,282
in getting those parts
of the story to work,
1747
01:41:28,049 --> 01:41:29,384
and to make sense,
1748
01:41:29,417 --> 01:41:35,590
and to feel revelatory
and believable--
1749
01:41:35,623 --> 01:41:39,294
And-- There are
so many people involved.
1750
01:41:41,929 --> 01:41:45,600
We're all in this together,
and it feels like a real team,
1751
01:41:45,633 --> 01:41:48,270
like kind of like
the way Star Wars is.
1752
01:41:48,303 --> 01:41:50,838
You feel like
you are working on something
bigger than yourself.
1753
01:41:50,872 --> 01:41:54,442
You want to respect
what's come before.
1754
01:41:54,476 --> 01:41:57,812
Working towards
that blend of legacy and new.
1755
01:41:59,113 --> 01:42:01,716
We strive
to have a great balance
of those two things.
1756
01:42:03,718 --> 01:42:07,189
The balance
of the Force is never
a permanent, enduring thing,
1757
01:42:10,358 --> 01:42:12,927
so the idea that this is
a story of a character
1758
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,464
who needs to step up
and bring balance
in her own way.
1759
01:42:19,567 --> 01:42:22,103
If you had asked me, you know,
in the middle of doing VII,
1760
01:42:22,136 --> 01:42:23,638
"Where would we go with Rey?"
1761
01:42:23,671 --> 01:42:26,241
I would say "The headlines
would be exactly the same."
1762
01:42:30,345 --> 01:42:32,347
As we needed our Sith throne,
1763
01:42:32,380 --> 01:42:36,651
I'd always been very fascinated
by this wonderful sketch
that Ralph McQuarrie did.
1764
01:42:36,684 --> 01:42:38,686
It felt like a spiky shadow
1765
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,624
emerging from the back
of a conversation
between the Emperor and Vader.
1766
01:42:42,657 --> 01:42:44,226
The big question was,
"How do you turn
1767
01:42:44,259 --> 01:42:46,894
a black pencil drawing that
is one-and-a-half inches across,
1768
01:42:46,928 --> 01:42:51,733
a silhouette,
into a throne
that's its own thing?"
1769
01:42:51,766 --> 01:42:54,469
Because it was done in
a two-dimensional pencil sketch,
1770
01:42:54,502 --> 01:42:57,138
what if there was
another thing that
came out here even?
1771
01:42:57,171 --> 01:42:59,474
Like, it started to feel like
it wasn't completely flat.
1772
01:42:59,507 --> 01:43:02,143
Most of these things
are rather hazy.
1773
01:43:02,176 --> 01:43:05,980
They just feel right sometimes,
and sometimes they don't.
1774
01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:08,916
So you just keep fiddling
until they start to feel right.
1775
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:14,256
What if there is kind of bits
doing that, maybe in
the ground near it and up there.
1776
01:43:14,289 --> 01:43:18,626
The throne envelopes around you
to make it feel like
it's grabbing her.
1777
01:43:21,963 --> 01:43:24,732
The hope
at the beginning of the film
that Sidious articulates
1778
01:43:24,766 --> 01:43:27,001
is that the dyad
would come together
on the dark side,
1779
01:43:27,034 --> 01:43:29,337
but the reversal is that
the dyad does come together,
1780
01:43:29,371 --> 01:43:31,573
and it is as powerful
as we expected,
1781
01:43:31,606 --> 01:43:34,008
but they come together
on the side of the light.
1782
01:43:34,041 --> 01:43:36,644
One of the surprises
and delights for me personally,
1783
01:43:36,678 --> 01:43:39,414
is seeing Adam
get to play Ben in this film.
1784
01:43:39,447 --> 01:43:42,584
The great tragedy
is that we don't have him
for very long in the story,
1785
01:43:42,617 --> 01:43:45,987
but when you do,
you know, you just
feel the potential that,
1786
01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:47,989
you know, the person
that he could have been.
1787
01:43:52,394 --> 01:43:56,764
Before,
either someone who has
the absence of hope,
1788
01:43:56,798 --> 01:44:01,303
and the thing
that we started with for
"Who is Ben, then?"
1789
01:44:01,336 --> 01:44:03,070
is someone who has hope.
1790
01:44:03,104 --> 01:44:04,339
Two, one.
1791
01:44:04,372 --> 01:44:05,607
There's no more ambiguity
1792
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,008
about what it is
that he has to do.
1793
01:44:07,041 --> 01:44:08,776
There's no more seesaw
that's happening.
1794
01:44:11,913 --> 01:44:14,816
For the first time, someone
who has never had the answer
1795
01:44:14,849 --> 01:44:17,319
now finally knows
his purpose or destiny.
1796
01:44:21,323 --> 01:44:24,592
He has to let her know
that they're together.
1797
01:44:24,626 --> 01:44:28,062
But I don't know that he
entirely is sure of what's
going to happen from there,
1798
01:44:28,095 --> 01:44:29,797
nor do I think he cares.
1799
01:44:29,831 --> 01:44:32,867
I think
it's so long as he is with her,
he is on the right path.
1800
01:44:36,604 --> 01:44:39,341
Leia's Jedi trial
happens in Episode IX.
1801
01:44:41,142 --> 01:44:45,547
The end of her path
as a Jedi is fulfilled when
her son turns back to the light.
1802
01:44:58,693 --> 01:45:00,462
We had this crazy idea
1803
01:45:00,495 --> 01:45:04,332
about doing
a cavalry ground invasion
on a Star Destroyer's surface.
1804
01:45:04,366 --> 01:45:06,267
That's so cool.
1805
01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:11,005
So our challenge
is how to make 300 feet
worth of a Star Destroyer
1806
01:45:11,038 --> 01:45:15,042
that we can have two armies
fighting on and a cavalry charge
with horses.
1807
01:45:15,076 --> 01:45:16,578
Wow, is that amazing.
1808
01:45:16,611 --> 01:45:19,213
-That is crazy.
1809
01:45:19,246 --> 01:45:21,683
-No, but it's really insane.
-I know.
1810
01:45:21,716 --> 01:45:24,318
'Cause we could do a cool thing
where we pull them down,
1811
01:45:24,352 --> 01:45:26,220
and have our characters slide,
1812
01:45:26,253 --> 01:45:29,691
and then land
on a vertical thing
that's now more horizontal.
1813
01:45:29,724 --> 01:45:31,593
At that point they're just
kind of standing on something.
1814
01:45:31,626 --> 01:45:34,095
At a certain point
they'll jump off
onto a platform...
1815
01:45:34,128 --> 01:45:37,031
- Three, two, one, go!
-...that's meant
to be the Falcon.
1816
01:45:40,067 --> 01:45:41,836
Ready, and now!
1817
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:47,742
The idea of having
humans and human-sized creatures
1818
01:45:47,775 --> 01:45:49,911
ground-invading a Star Destroyer
1819
01:45:49,944 --> 01:45:53,948
was too much fun
an idea not to try.
1820
01:45:53,981 --> 01:45:57,051
So, we've been doing a lot
of dynamic movements
1821
01:45:57,819 --> 01:45:59,654
on this lovely beast here.
1822
01:45:59,687 --> 01:46:01,823
It's like ballet
on top of an orbak.
1823
01:46:01,856 --> 01:46:03,224
Boom!
1824
01:46:03,257 --> 01:46:05,159
Perfect. Yeah, that's it.
1825
01:46:05,192 --> 01:46:07,795
You're just going to
drop that left knee
to the ground.
1826
01:46:07,829 --> 01:46:10,064
Yeah, and then go
for a grab on the knee.
1827
01:46:10,097 --> 01:46:13,835
I've never gotten shot
before in a movie,
so we'll see how it goes.
1828
01:46:17,405 --> 01:46:18,873
Bang!
1829
01:46:18,906 --> 01:46:20,608
-More importantly,
after she gets shot...
-I'm not.
1830
01:46:20,642 --> 01:46:22,076
-...she screams "Beaumont."
-I go, "Beaumont!"
1831
01:46:22,109 --> 01:46:23,645
-"Beaumont!"
-"Beaumont!"
1832
01:46:23,678 --> 01:46:25,079
Come on.
Cover me. Cover me.
1833
01:46:26,781 --> 01:46:28,049
Come on!
1834
01:46:28,082 --> 01:46:29,684
He's been trying
to get his name in the movie.
1835
01:46:29,717 --> 01:46:31,553
-It's important!
-I'm trying to get a doll.
1836
01:46:31,586 --> 01:46:33,421
-He's trying to get a name.
We'll get it.
-It's important.
1837
01:46:33,455 --> 01:46:36,057
- I'll cover you.
- Ready and bang!
1838
01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:38,025
I always wanted this to happen.
1839
01:46:38,059 --> 01:46:41,463
I always wanted
there to be some form
of a stormtrooper rebellion,
1840
01:46:41,496 --> 01:46:44,599
which is something
that I was quite interested in
since VII.
1841
01:46:44,632 --> 01:46:46,901
And it felt like J.J.
was going towards that anyway.
1842
01:46:48,536 --> 01:46:51,172
-It's gonna be sick.
1843
01:46:51,205 --> 01:46:53,074
So it feels good
to finally be here.
To be on the horses.
1844
01:46:53,107 --> 01:46:54,776
We've been training for this
for a long time.
1845
01:46:56,277 --> 01:46:59,013
I'm on the ground, making sure
I blow everything up.
1846
01:46:59,046 --> 01:46:59,781
Poe's in the sky.
1847
01:46:59,814 --> 01:47:01,215
Poe, air strike please.
1848
01:47:05,653 --> 01:47:09,223
Here we go, here we go.
And action!
1849
01:47:09,256 --> 01:47:11,659
All wings, cover that lander!
1850
01:47:11,693 --> 01:47:13,528
Watch those two
on your tail!
1851
01:47:16,898 --> 01:47:18,933
What really excited me on VII
1852
01:47:18,966 --> 01:47:25,172
was the idea
that we would put cameras,
fixed cameras on CG X-wings.
1853
01:47:28,743 --> 01:47:31,713
Because if you
really had an X-wing,
what would you do?
1854
01:47:31,746 --> 01:47:35,382
You'd mount the camera
possibly on a wing
and you'd fly around,
1855
01:47:35,416 --> 01:47:39,721
sort of recreating
a practical way
of photographing something,
1856
01:47:39,754 --> 01:47:41,155
but inside the computer.
1857
01:47:44,258 --> 01:47:45,426
Incoming TIEs!
1858
01:47:45,459 --> 01:47:46,694
Flying along.
Good and good.
1859
01:47:46,728 --> 01:47:48,129
Incoming TIEs.
1860
01:47:48,162 --> 01:47:50,131
And when I showed it
to some of the guys
1861
01:47:50,164 --> 01:47:52,033
that had worked
on the original movies,
1862
01:47:52,066 --> 01:47:54,468
they were excited
about what we were doing.
1863
01:47:54,502 --> 01:47:55,837
Just keep doing
the controls.
1864
01:47:55,870 --> 01:47:57,672
What can we do
against these things?
1865
01:47:57,705 --> 01:47:59,807
They were saying that
they were actually trying
to do that
1866
01:47:59,841 --> 01:48:01,208
when they were making IV.
1867
01:48:04,111 --> 01:48:05,312
Red Two, standing by.
1868
01:48:05,346 --> 01:48:08,115
It's so funny
and nice to come back to it.
1869
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:12,119
I was looking for a kind of
sailor's outfit like an admiral.
1870
01:48:13,187 --> 01:48:15,222
It's down to
the orange jumpsuit again.
1871
01:48:16,924 --> 01:48:18,860
Look at the size of that thing.
1872
01:48:18,893 --> 01:48:21,128
- Mr. Denis Lawson.
Legend!
-Thank you.
1873
01:48:21,162 --> 01:48:23,531
They didn't have a miniature
that was big enough
1874
01:48:23,565 --> 01:48:25,166
because,
obviously with miniatures
1875
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:27,434
you have an issue
with physically,
the size of the camera.
1876
01:48:29,003 --> 01:48:32,073
You got two black people
leading the cavalry.
1877
01:48:32,106 --> 01:48:34,642
Which is something you don't see
in every single feature film.
1878
01:48:34,676 --> 01:48:36,477
-At all.
-So, for me and Naomi,
1879
01:48:36,510 --> 01:48:38,412
we are definitely,
we have that in mind.
1880
01:48:38,445 --> 01:48:40,381
-And this is
a passionate moment for us.
-Yeah.
1881
01:48:40,414 --> 01:48:43,551
Seeing a black man
and a black woman
leading the cavalry of heroes.
1882
01:48:43,585 --> 01:48:44,886
- Yeah, to save the day.
-I'm proud.
1883
01:48:44,919 --> 01:48:45,987
-Me too.
-I'm proud.
1884
01:48:49,657 --> 01:48:51,258
Hell yeah. Hell yeah!
1885
01:48:51,292 --> 01:48:52,994
We've done a lot of work,
isn't it?
1886
01:48:53,494 --> 01:48:55,563
Hey! Hey.
1887
01:48:55,597 --> 01:48:57,064
It's been
a joy working with her.
1888
01:48:57,098 --> 01:48:59,266
We always have a good time.
Always good conversation.
1889
01:48:59,300 --> 01:49:01,268
Probably singing and dancing
half of the time.
1890
01:49:03,137 --> 01:49:05,239
You know, chilling,
talking about chicken and chips,
1891
01:49:05,272 --> 01:49:06,874
and the next second
you're saving the world.
1892
01:49:12,647 --> 01:49:15,617
It's definitely the underdogs,
the little guys...
1893
01:49:17,184 --> 01:49:20,988
and certainly a different thing
than the Ewoks on Endor.
1894
01:49:21,022 --> 01:49:23,290
We've got
our new stormtroopers in red.
1895
01:49:23,324 --> 01:49:25,727
This is the first time
that I'm actually seeing them,
which is really, really cool.
1896
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,195
The idea
that people of human scale
1897
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:31,733
can undo a machine
of impossible scale
1898
01:49:31,766 --> 01:49:34,936
definitely feels
like it's a theme of the series.
1899
01:49:38,372 --> 01:49:42,944
Each character on Exegol
is really facing
their greatest challenge.
1900
01:49:45,913 --> 01:49:48,082
Teamwork.
Teamwork is a big thing
with this.
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