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My name's Michael Weatherly. 2 00:00:10,401 --> 00:00:13,143 Tonight's episode of Bull deals with a citywide panic 3 00:00:13,187 --> 00:00:14,797 not unlike the fears and concerns 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,930 people are experiencing all over the world at this moment. 5 00:00:17,974 --> 00:00:20,324 Before we start, we wanted to remind you: 6 00:00:20,368 --> 00:00:22,239 this is a work of fiction. 7 00:00:22,283 --> 00:00:24,502 It was written and filmed months ago. 8 00:00:24,546 --> 00:00:27,549 And its only purpose is to entertain you. 9 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:32,902 And that will do it for the headlines for the 9:00 hour. 10 00:00:32,945 --> 00:00:34,817 We will see you back here at 9:30. 11 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:39,430 For New York News 3, I'm Allison Rojas. 12 00:00:39,474 --> 00:00:41,824 PRODUCER: And we're out.[buzzer sounds] 13 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:43,826 LENA: Nice broadcast. 14 00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:46,176 Thanks.That new shade of lipstick, that looks great on camera. 15 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:48,222 [laughs softly] 16 00:00:52,269 --> 00:00:54,402 Who would send me 17 00:00:54,445 --> 00:00:56,665 a birthday card two months before my birthday? 18 00:00:57,753 --> 00:00:59,102 [both gasp] 19 00:00:59,146 --> 00:01:00,712 Okay, this is not funny. 20 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:02,714 Oh, no. It's in your hair.It's everywhere. 21 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:04,629 I have to be back on the air in 23 and a half minutes.No, I'll get-get, 22 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:07,241 uh, wardrobe and makeup.Hurry. 23 00:01:07,284 --> 00:01:08,677 [crew members speaking indistinctly] 24 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:13,029 [woman speaking indistinctly over P.A.] 25 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:15,118 MARK: Yesterday morning, my wife-- she woke up achy, nauseous. 26 00:01:15,162 --> 00:01:16,946 She had a bit of a fever, said her chest hurt. 27 00:01:16,989 --> 00:01:18,208 We thought it was the flu. 28 00:01:18,252 --> 00:01:21,559 But then, today, she started coughing up blood. 29 00:01:21,603 --> 00:01:22,908 Attendant, 30 00:01:22,952 --> 00:01:24,736 let's get her to Room One.MAN: Yes, Doctor. 31 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,086 Let's page Dr. Farmer and the chief, 32 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:28,392 and then alert the Health Department and the CDC. 33 00:01:28,436 --> 00:01:29,654 The-the CDC? 34 00:01:29,698 --> 00:01:31,700 Center for Disease Control? What's going on? 35 00:01:31,743 --> 00:01:33,049 ANCHOR: Government buildings 36 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,659 remain closed and subway ridership 37 00:01:34,703 --> 00:01:36,313 is at its lowest level since 9/11 38 00:01:36,357 --> 00:01:39,186 as anthrax terror grips Manhattan. 39 00:01:39,229 --> 00:01:41,971 A quiet panic has descended on the city 40 00:01:42,014 --> 00:01:44,234 as New Yorkers are trying to figure out who's behind this 41 00:01:44,278 --> 00:01:45,540 and when it will end. 42 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:48,978 At this hour, the death toll remains at two. 43 00:01:49,021 --> 00:01:50,719 The deceased are Katie Connors, 44 00:01:50,762 --> 00:01:52,547 who opened a birthday card addressed to her husband, 45 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:55,376 Manhattan Congressman Peter Connors, 46 00:01:55,419 --> 00:01:58,901 and Emmanuel Bakry, the postal worker who delivered it. 47 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:00,859 But, finally, some good news. 48 00:02:00,903 --> 00:02:03,949 News 3'sAllison Rojas is responding to treatment 49 00:02:03,993 --> 00:02:06,517 after opening an anthrax-laden greeting card 50 00:02:06,561 --> 00:02:09,346 in this very studio more than a week ago. 51 00:02:09,390 --> 00:02:12,349 Doctors expect her and the four other News 3staffers 52 00:02:12,393 --> 00:02:15,570 who were taken ill to make a full recovery. 53 00:02:24,013 --> 00:02:26,015 [indistinct chatter] 54 00:02:31,716 --> 00:02:35,242 Folks, we're about to roll, so I need quiet. 55 00:02:35,285 --> 00:02:38,201 Five, four, 56 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:40,899 three, two... 57 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:44,816 Good afternoon from ground zero. 58 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:47,341 Here in Manhattan we're all collectively holding our breath, 59 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:50,387 waiting for the next anthrax-laden shoe to drop. 60 00:02:50,431 --> 00:02:52,824 With that thought in mind, we thought we'd pay a visit 61 00:02:52,868 --> 00:02:56,437 to Hudson University, which is one of the foremost laboratories 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,353 for the study of chemical weapons and bio-pathogens. 63 00:02:59,396 --> 00:03:02,399 We wanted to talk with Dr. Roger Simpkins, 64 00:03:02,443 --> 00:03:05,185 a microbiologist and researcher who runs this lab, 65 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:07,361 which is financed in a combination of funding 66 00:03:07,404 --> 00:03:10,364 from the university and the government. 67 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:13,062 Dr. Simpkins, any words of wisdom 68 00:03:13,105 --> 00:03:15,804 or homespun advice for our viewers tuning in, 69 00:03:15,847 --> 00:03:18,372 missing work and school, doing everything they can 70 00:03:18,415 --> 00:03:21,113 to keep themselves from becoming a victim, 71 00:03:21,157 --> 00:03:23,246 falling ill, possibly even dying? 72 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:24,682 The thing we all need to remember 73 00:03:24,726 --> 00:03:26,510 is that anthrax is not a virus. 74 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:29,383 It's a bacteria, and that means you can't catch it. 75 00:03:29,426 --> 00:03:31,254 It can't be transmitted from person-to-person, 76 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:33,256 so if you don't have direct contact with it, 77 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,345 it poses no threat to you. 78 00:03:35,389 --> 00:03:38,043 So calm down. 79 00:03:38,087 --> 00:03:40,350 NEWSMAN: A-And I've been told that even if you do have direct contact, 80 00:03:40,394 --> 00:03:43,614 it's still not necessarily fatal. 81 00:03:43,658 --> 00:03:45,050 Absolutely true. 82 00:03:45,094 --> 00:03:48,271 If anthrax is identified early, it can be treated. 83 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:50,447 What makes it tricky is early anthrax symptoms 84 00:03:50,491 --> 00:03:52,188 look just like the flu. 85 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:53,320 So unless your doctor knows 86 00:03:53,363 --> 00:03:55,670 that you've actually had contact with it, 87 00:03:55,713 --> 00:03:58,455 the disease can go undetected until the drugs we use 88 00:03:58,499 --> 00:03:59,978 to cure it are no longer effective. 89 00:04:00,022 --> 00:04:01,850 But it's been nearly 20 years 90 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:04,113 since the last round of anthrax incidents. 91 00:04:04,156 --> 00:04:06,463 How is it there's still no cure for this stuff? 92 00:04:06,507 --> 00:04:08,900 SIMPKINS: Well, ironically, 93 00:04:08,944 --> 00:04:12,295 uh, last year at this time, my, uh, colleagues and I 94 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:14,384 were in the process of developing 95 00:04:14,428 --> 00:04:16,473 some very promising new late-stage anthrax treatments. 96 00:04:16,517 --> 00:04:17,692 NEWSMAN: Wait. 97 00:04:17,735 --> 00:04:19,346 "Were"? 98 00:04:19,389 --> 00:04:22,914 Well, our funding, particularly with regard to anthrax research, 99 00:04:22,958 --> 00:04:25,308 comes from the federal government. 100 00:04:25,352 --> 00:04:28,790 And they pulled way back this year. 101 00:04:28,833 --> 00:04:30,879 What can I tell you? 102 00:04:30,922 --> 00:04:32,489 Go write your congressman. 103 00:04:37,929 --> 00:04:39,931 [knocking on door] 104 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:45,850 SIMPKINS: The FBI is in my office. 105 00:04:45,894 --> 00:04:47,896 They've determined that the anthrax used 106 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:49,898 in all these recent attacks 107 00:04:49,941 --> 00:04:51,943 comes from our labs. 108 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:54,772 They want to talk to the three of you. 109 00:05:01,605 --> 00:05:04,347 What did you do? Get a second job? 110 00:05:04,391 --> 00:05:05,827 Aren't you afraid of dogs? 111 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:07,568 Other postal workers going postal? 112 00:05:07,611 --> 00:05:09,352 TAYLOR: Not funny. It's just my mail 113 00:05:09,396 --> 00:05:11,049 for the last couple of weeks. 114 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:13,269 I made the post office hold it for me. 115 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:15,271 Once I found out the FBI arrested the anthrax killer, 116 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:16,881 I figured it was finally safe to pick it up 117 00:05:16,925 --> 00:05:18,100 and sort through it all. 118 00:05:18,143 --> 00:05:20,537 Won't be needing that anymore. 119 00:05:22,409 --> 00:05:24,367 Bull in his office? 120 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:28,328 [chuckles] 121 00:05:30,504 --> 00:05:32,462 [knocking on door] 122 00:05:32,506 --> 00:05:34,334 I'm in the middle 123 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:37,728 of some very important procrastination. 124 00:05:38,773 --> 00:05:42,385 Hey. Sorry to interrupt. 125 00:05:42,429 --> 00:05:44,387 Why are you so glum, Mr. Colón? 126 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:45,388 Haven't you heard? 127 00:05:45,432 --> 00:05:48,391 It's a glorious day in New York. 128 00:05:48,435 --> 00:05:50,437 Spring has sprung, 129 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,221 Easter's barely a month away, 130 00:05:52,264 --> 00:05:53,918 and the anthrax killer is off the streets. 131 00:05:53,962 --> 00:05:57,269 We can put this whole dark chapter behind us. 132 00:05:57,313 --> 00:05:59,837 Well, actually, no, we can't. 133 00:05:59,881 --> 00:06:01,404 What does that mean? 134 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:03,580 You remember, a couple of years ago, we signed up 135 00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:07,410 to be a part of that program where private firms offer 136 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:10,326 their services to the public defender's office? 137 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,242 No. I got nothing on that. 138 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:15,418 Must have been trying to get into somebody's good graces. 139 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:17,072 What's the difference? We offered, 140 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:19,074 and this morning they called. 141 00:06:19,117 --> 00:06:22,599 Natalie Reznick, the accused anthrax killer, is facing 142 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,297 two counts of capital murder and a slew of other charges. 143 00:06:25,341 --> 00:06:28,823 Well, she needs a defense team, and we're one of the few firms 144 00:06:28,866 --> 00:06:32,304 in the city with the expertise to handle that type of case. 145 00:06:32,348 --> 00:06:33,871 Well, just call 'em back and tell 'em no. 146 00:06:33,915 --> 00:06:37,309 I have a newborn child and you have... 147 00:06:37,353 --> 00:06:38,876 Just say that 148 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,922 we really appreciate the offer, but we are not interested 149 00:06:40,965 --> 00:06:43,664 in representing a terrorist at this time. 150 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:45,274 An accused terrorist. 151 00:06:45,317 --> 00:06:47,363 I think you're missing the point. 152 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:49,278 The federal defender's office wasn't asking 153 00:06:49,321 --> 00:06:50,453 when they called me this morning. 154 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:51,672 They were telling. 155 00:06:52,716 --> 00:06:54,457 It's our case, Bull. 156 00:06:54,501 --> 00:06:56,241 Happy spring. 157 00:06:56,285 --> 00:06:58,287 ♪ 158 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:07,557 I have no idea why I'm here. 159 00:07:07,601 --> 00:07:09,603 Surely you heard the FBI agent 160 00:07:09,646 --> 00:07:12,736 read you the charges before he took you into custody. 161 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:15,391 You're being charged with murdering two people 162 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:19,177 with a Tier 1 federal select biological agent 163 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:21,310 and terrorizing the city of New York. 164 00:07:21,353 --> 00:07:25,270 Yes, of course, but wh-why would they think I would do that? 165 00:07:25,314 --> 00:07:26,446 Well, the evidence against you 166 00:07:26,489 --> 00:07:28,143 will be laid out at your arraignment, 167 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:30,058 but based on the charging documents, 168 00:07:30,101 --> 00:07:31,712 the FBI has a pretty strong case. 169 00:07:31,755 --> 00:07:33,365 How is that possible? 170 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:35,367 BENNY: Well, when the funding for your anthrax research 171 00:07:35,411 --> 00:07:36,543 was cut last year, 172 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:38,545 you sent out dozens of e-mails. 173 00:07:38,588 --> 00:07:41,199 To journalists, to politicians. 174 00:07:41,243 --> 00:07:44,507 The very people who've been the targets in these attacks. 175 00:07:44,551 --> 00:07:47,684 Well, y-yes, b-but that's... 176 00:07:47,728 --> 00:07:49,556 that's just a coincidence. 177 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:52,384 The-the letters that I was writing were about 178 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:57,520 how shortsighted and dangerous it was to cut that funding. 179 00:07:57,564 --> 00:08:00,392 Just because anthrax was out of the news did not mean 180 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:03,134 that it was no longer a risk to national security. 181 00:08:03,178 --> 00:08:04,527 BULL: Well, the U.S. Attorney's Office 182 00:08:04,571 --> 00:08:07,269 suspects that when your warnings fell on deaf ears, 183 00:08:07,312 --> 00:08:11,403 you orchestrated these attacks to prove a point. 184 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:16,147 "Anthrax is still out there. It's still lethal." 185 00:08:16,191 --> 00:08:19,934 That's absurd. I am a doctor, I am a scientist. 186 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:22,632 The work that my team was doing was about saving lives. 187 00:08:22,676 --> 00:08:24,460 How on earth would killing people 188 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:26,506 help us achieve that goal? 189 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:29,073 If that's all they had, I'd agree with you. 190 00:08:29,117 --> 00:08:31,336 Are you aware that your office had been bleached 191 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:33,034 before the FBI searched it? 192 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:34,426 Yes. 193 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:37,995 Bleach is a disinfectant. I work with pathogens. 194 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:39,562 BULL: But yours was the only office 195 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:41,999 in the complex to have been so recently 196 00:08:42,043 --> 00:08:43,740 and thoroughly bleached. 197 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:46,308 Bleach kills anthrax. 198 00:08:46,351 --> 00:08:49,398 It makes it appear as if you were destroying evidence. 199 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:52,314 Your apartment had been bleached, too. 200 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:56,884 And investigators found a stash of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin 201 00:08:56,927 --> 00:09:00,365 and a box of N95 face masks in your kitchen. 202 00:09:00,409 --> 00:09:01,845 They suspect you used both 203 00:09:01,889 --> 00:09:04,805 when you assembled the anthrax-laden birthday cards. 204 00:09:04,848 --> 00:09:07,155 I mean, the masks were-- I... 205 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:12,377 I was gonna paint my bathroom. 206 00:09:12,421 --> 00:09:14,466 And I go on a medical mission every year. 207 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:16,381 This year, it's Cambodia. 208 00:09:16,425 --> 00:09:18,340 Last year, it was Honduras, 209 00:09:18,383 --> 00:09:20,342 Guadalupe. 210 00:09:20,385 --> 00:09:23,563 Anyway, my doctor gives me cipro before I go every year. 211 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:27,175 I meant what I said. 212 00:09:28,176 --> 00:09:30,787 I have no idea why I'm here. 213 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:32,397 [lock buzzes, latch clicks] 214 00:09:32,441 --> 00:09:34,312 BULL: I believe the woman. 215 00:09:34,356 --> 00:09:37,446 I mean, she says she has no idea what she's doing behind bars. 216 00:09:37,489 --> 00:09:39,056 I believe her. 217 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:41,058 Okay. Well, that makes two of you. 218 00:09:41,102 --> 00:09:44,845 Unfortunately, the government sees it all quite differently. 219 00:09:44,888 --> 00:09:47,848 Yeah, government. You ever heard of detective myopia? 220 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:50,546 Detective myopia? 221 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,722 No. Can't say that I have. 222 00:09:52,766 --> 00:09:54,332 It is when law enforcement, 223 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:57,248 usually because of extreme public or political pressure, 224 00:09:57,292 --> 00:10:00,382 picks a suspect and then evaluates all the evidence 225 00:10:00,425 --> 00:10:03,864 with the predisposition that that suspect is guilty. 226 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:05,648 And they stop looking for other suspects, 227 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:07,084 they stop running down leads 228 00:10:07,128 --> 00:10:09,260 that don't back up their predetermined theories. 229 00:10:09,304 --> 00:10:12,394 All their work goes into proving that their suspect, 230 00:10:12,437 --> 00:10:16,267 the person they picked at random is guilty. 231 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:18,966 City's in a panic. FBI needs 232 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:20,532 to restore calm. 233 00:10:20,576 --> 00:10:23,448 Natalie presented as someone with access to the bacteria 234 00:10:23,492 --> 00:10:26,277 and an apparent motive, so they combed through her life 235 00:10:26,321 --> 00:10:28,628 looking for ways to prove she did it. 236 00:10:28,671 --> 00:10:30,760 Detective myopia. 237 00:10:31,805 --> 00:10:33,154 [sighs] 238 00:10:33,197 --> 00:10:35,591 I think we need to argue for a change of venue. 239 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:36,766 [groans] 240 00:10:36,810 --> 00:10:38,855 Well-- I know legal strategy isn't exactly 241 00:10:38,899 --> 00:10:42,163 my area of expertise, but I have been going through 242 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:46,254 the potential jury lists, and, well, given the panic 243 00:10:46,297 --> 00:10:49,431 and all of the publicity around this case, 244 00:10:49,474 --> 00:10:50,693 wouldn't we be likely to get 245 00:10:50,737 --> 00:10:52,216 a more impartial jury somewhere else? 246 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:55,524 Somewhere that hasn't been through as much as New York has? 247 00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:57,700 That's not a bad thought, actually. 248 00:10:57,744 --> 00:11:00,268 You know, the problem is, it's next to impossible 249 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:04,272 to get a change of venue in a federal criminal case. 250 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:05,360 I'm just worried. 251 00:11:05,403 --> 00:11:07,275 No matter how I look at the data, 252 00:11:07,318 --> 00:11:09,973 I just don't know how we're gonna seat a jury 253 00:11:10,017 --> 00:11:12,323 that can look past their own fears. 254 00:11:12,367 --> 00:11:14,195 That's why we shouldn't try. 255 00:11:14,238 --> 00:11:16,676 In fact, we should do just the opposite. 256 00:11:16,719 --> 00:11:19,330 We should scare the living daylights out of 'em. 257 00:11:19,374 --> 00:11:21,245 People are predisposed 258 00:11:21,289 --> 00:11:22,769 to convicting Natalie because they want to believe 259 00:11:22,812 --> 00:11:24,118 that the danger has passed. 260 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:26,990 So what we need to do is convince the jury... 261 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:29,471 that it hasn't. 262 00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:32,387 Anybody remember the last time 263 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:35,129 we had a series of anthrax attacks? 264 00:11:35,172 --> 00:11:38,132 It was right after 9/11, wasn't it? 265 00:11:38,175 --> 00:11:39,611 BENNY: Yes, yes. Very good. 266 00:11:39,655 --> 00:11:41,352 And do you remember how long 267 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,311 it took for them to find the perpetrator? 268 00:11:43,354 --> 00:11:44,921 WOMAN: Uh... 269 00:11:44,965 --> 00:11:46,357 I seem to recall it was pretty quick. 270 00:11:46,401 --> 00:11:48,055 Indeed it was. 271 00:11:48,098 --> 00:11:50,231 Attorney General John Ashcroft 272 00:11:50,274 --> 00:11:55,279 publicly named former biodefense researcher Steven Jay Hatfill 273 00:11:55,323 --> 00:11:57,586 as a person of interest in the attacks. 274 00:11:57,629 --> 00:12:00,284 FBI tapped his phone. 275 00:12:00,328 --> 00:12:03,026 He lost his job, couldn't get another one. 276 00:12:03,070 --> 00:12:04,506 Almost committed suicide. 277 00:12:04,549 --> 00:12:06,987 Then,in 2008, 278 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:08,989 everyone suddenly realized 279 00:12:09,032 --> 00:12:11,295 that they were persecuting the wrong man. 280 00:12:11,339 --> 00:12:13,950 So here's my question to you. 281 00:12:13,994 --> 00:12:16,213 How many of you folks believe that, of course, 282 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:19,303 with all the best intentions in the world, 283 00:12:19,347 --> 00:12:22,742 people whose job it is to root out the bad guys 284 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:25,396 sometimes get it wrong? 285 00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:34,362 Now we're getting somewhere. 286 00:12:36,364 --> 00:12:38,322 CHUNK: Means, motive and opportunity-- 287 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,976 they must feel they have it, 288 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:41,238 or they wouldn't have brought the case. 289 00:12:41,282 --> 00:12:43,023 For those of us who didn't go to law school, 290 00:12:43,066 --> 00:12:44,546 what does "means" mean again? 291 00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:46,809 It means she could do it; she had the tools necessary. 292 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:49,203 In this case, anthrax. She worked at a place 293 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:52,162 where anthrax was readily available. 294 00:12:52,206 --> 00:12:54,208 Yeah, but there's more to it than that. 295 00:12:54,251 --> 00:12:57,124 Every expert I've spoken with said the same thing. 296 00:12:57,167 --> 00:13:00,257 Researchers work with wetanthrax spores. 297 00:13:00,301 --> 00:13:02,477 To make a-a powder that can be sent in the mail, 298 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,174 you have to use dry anthrax spores, 299 00:13:04,218 --> 00:13:06,655 and in order to dry them, you have to use a very specific, 300 00:13:06,698 --> 00:13:09,223 very large piece of equipment built just for that purpose. 301 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:10,441 Which, of course, they have at the lab? 302 00:13:10,485 --> 00:13:12,052 Which, of course, they have at the lab. 303 00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:13,836 But all of that takes time. 304 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,665 Stealing the anthrax. Drying the anthrax. 305 00:13:16,708 --> 00:13:18,145 I've skimmed over this grand jury transcript 306 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:20,582 three times-- I've yet to see an explanation 307 00:13:20,625 --> 00:13:23,150 for when Natalie would have been able to do that 308 00:13:23,193 --> 00:13:25,195 without raising suspicion.Obviously, 309 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:28,068 they are saving their biggest surprises for trial. 310 00:13:28,111 --> 00:13:29,765 I'll give you another one. 311 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,159 [taps keyboard]So, the FBI was able 312 00:13:32,202 --> 00:13:34,248 to determine that all the anthrax letters 313 00:13:34,291 --> 00:13:35,902 were mailed from this mailbox 314 00:13:35,945 --> 00:13:37,338 within a specific eight-hour period. 315 00:13:37,381 --> 00:13:38,948 Really? 316 00:13:38,992 --> 00:13:40,471 Well, since I'm the only one here 317 00:13:40,515 --> 00:13:42,212 who hasn't worked for Homeland or FBI, 318 00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:44,388 can someone tell me how they do that? 319 00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:46,434 When you drop a letter into a government mailbox, 320 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:48,436 it goes into a bin that's location-specific 321 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:49,916 and time-coded. 322 00:13:49,959 --> 00:13:52,266 When that bin is carried back to the general post office 323 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:54,181 for processing and your letter is postmarked, 324 00:13:54,224 --> 00:13:56,705 it carries all that information with it. 325 00:13:56,748 --> 00:13:59,664 [chuckles] Wow. That's really cool. 326 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,102 And more than a little scary. 327 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:03,843 Back to the pictures. 328 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:06,193 All right, so, the FBI examined security footage 329 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,586 from area cameras taken during the same time frame. 330 00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:11,067 They were able to eliminate all but three people 331 00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:13,243 who mailed letters during that period. 332 00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:15,245 Wha...? And how were they able to do that? 333 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:17,987 How could they tell from these... grainy photos 334 00:14:18,031 --> 00:14:20,294 who's mailing anthrax and who isn't? 335 00:14:20,337 --> 00:14:23,340 Well, I can't be sure, but my suspicion is, 336 00:14:23,384 --> 00:14:25,690 what they really did was basically eliminate everyone 337 00:14:25,734 --> 00:14:27,388 who didn't look like Natalie. 338 00:14:27,431 --> 00:14:30,130 There is your detective myopia that Bull keeps talking about. 339 00:14:30,173 --> 00:14:32,306 And that left them with three people 340 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:33,742 who didlook like Natalie? 341 00:14:33,785 --> 00:14:35,918 Well, it left them with three people, 342 00:14:35,962 --> 00:14:37,572 like this person here. 343 00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:40,227 Or this person here. 344 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,708 Or this person here. 345 00:14:45,754 --> 00:14:48,539 People who don't really look like anyone in particular. 346 00:14:48,583 --> 00:14:50,933 At least not as far as I can tell. 347 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,543 So what am I gonna tell Bull? 348 00:14:52,587 --> 00:14:55,938 Opening arguments, testimony start tomorrow morning. 349 00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:58,549 What in the world am I gonna tell Bull? 350 00:14:58,593 --> 00:15:01,378 Tell him that Danny and I are putting together dossiers 351 00:15:01,422 --> 00:15:04,468 on everyone Natalie works with, and... 352 00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:06,296 That our strategy hasn't changed. 353 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:09,343 To get the jury and the public to let go of the idea 354 00:15:09,386 --> 00:15:11,171 that Natalie is the mastermind behind these attacks, 355 00:15:11,214 --> 00:15:15,175 we have to... come up with another credible suspect. 356 00:15:15,218 --> 00:15:16,785 And we will. 357 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:27,230 REYNOLDS: Now, Dr. Poulson, as a researcher 358 00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:29,189 in the Medical Countermeasures Unit 359 00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:30,842 at Hudson University Laboratories, 360 00:15:30,886 --> 00:15:33,236 you frequently work shoulder-to-shoulder 361 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,585 with Natalie Reznick, 362 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:36,457 don't you?Yes, I do. 363 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:40,722 Now, it's against the lab's standard operating procedures 364 00:15:40,765 --> 00:15:42,419 for anyone to work alone? 365 00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:44,421 That's correct, yes.And to your knowledge, 366 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:46,119 Dr. Poulson, 367 00:15:46,162 --> 00:15:48,121 did Dr. Reznick 368 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:51,951 ever simply disregard this tenet of standard operating procedure? 369 00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:56,129 Yes, I believe she may have. Once. 370 00:15:56,172 --> 00:15:58,653 [gallery murmuring]About a week before the attacks. 371 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:00,089 REYNOLDS: You're referring to the evening 372 00:16:00,133 --> 00:16:02,048 of the 11th?I don't know what he's talking about. 373 00:16:02,091 --> 00:16:05,007 POULSON: It was late. We were the only two people in the lab. 374 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,705 And at around 7:00 p.m., I got summoned 375 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:10,404 to the chancellor's office for a call with D.C. 376 00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:13,929 Much of the work we do at our labs 377 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,366 is in partnership with the Department 378 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:18,847 of Defense, so when they say jump, 379 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:20,892 we jump. 380 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:23,678 And I told Natalie to... 381 00:16:23,721 --> 00:16:27,377 clean up and that we would finish up another day. 382 00:16:27,421 --> 00:16:30,554 So I left her unattended. 383 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:33,775 Which, as the senior researcher, I shouldn't have done. 384 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:37,126 But she assured me that she would just take a few minutes 385 00:16:37,170 --> 00:16:39,781 and then she would leave.Just to be clear. 386 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:42,914 Your expectation was that Dr. Reznick 387 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:44,742 would take five, maybe ten minutes 388 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,918 to clean up the lab and then leave. 389 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:47,963 Correct? 390 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:49,878 That was my assumption, yes. 391 00:16:49,921 --> 00:16:51,967 Dr. Poulson... 392 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,578 this is a single frame 393 00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:57,929 from security footage taken from the night in question. 394 00:16:57,973 --> 00:17:01,585 It shows someone leaving the laboratory complex at Hudson. 395 00:17:01,629 --> 00:17:03,326 Can you identify that person? 396 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:05,763 It's Dr. Reznick.And could you read 397 00:17:05,807 --> 00:17:08,636 the time stamp on the photo for us, please? 398 00:17:08,679 --> 00:17:11,726 9:26 p.m. 399 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,989 9:26 p.m. 400 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:18,080 Two and a half hours after you left the lab, correct? 401 00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:19,342 Yes. 402 00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:20,996 Dr. Poulson, 403 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,433 in your professional opinion, if Dr. Reznick had been alone 404 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:26,567 in that lab, not just for a few minutes to clean up, 405 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:29,700 but for several hours, would that have given her enough time 406 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:32,877 to dry the anthrax spores into a powder 407 00:17:32,921 --> 00:17:35,184 and sneak them out of the lab? 408 00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:38,144 Objection, Your Honor! Calls for speculation. 409 00:17:38,187 --> 00:17:39,449 REYNOLDS: Your Honor, 410 00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:40,929 Dr. Poulson is a microbiologist. 411 00:17:40,972 --> 00:17:43,975 I'm simply asking him for his professional opinion. 412 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:45,847 Objection overruled. 413 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:48,110 I'll allow him to answer. 414 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:51,766 I believe it would have, yes. 415 00:17:51,809 --> 00:17:55,987 [gallery murmuring]REYNOLDS: No further questions for now, Your Honor. 416 00:18:00,035 --> 00:18:01,863 [clears throat] 417 00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:05,040 Dr. Poulson. 418 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,434 Really appreciate you being here today. 419 00:18:07,477 --> 00:18:09,958 Now, I know we've heard a lot of speculation 420 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:12,917 about what might have happened, what could have happened, 421 00:18:12,961 --> 00:18:15,746 but you are a scientist. 422 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:19,315 You deal with the physical facts of the world. 423 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,926 So let's get back to that. 424 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,885 Do you have any proof 425 00:18:23,928 --> 00:18:26,931 that Dr. Reznick stayed in the lab alone 426 00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:30,021 any longer than she told you she would? 427 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:31,893 Well, based on the time stamp... 428 00:18:31,936 --> 00:18:35,114 Oh, no, no. That time stamp only proves 429 00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:37,377 what time she left the building, 430 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:40,858 which was two and a half hours after you did. 431 00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:42,817 Nowhere does it indicate 432 00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:45,776 what time she left the lab itself, does it? 433 00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:49,519 No, it doesn't.Uh-huh. 434 00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:54,045 Now, Dr. Reznick maintains she left the lab 435 00:18:54,089 --> 00:18:56,787 as promised and spent the remainder of that time 436 00:18:56,831 --> 00:19:01,357 in her office typing a report of the day's work. 437 00:19:01,401 --> 00:19:03,403 In fact... 438 00:19:03,446 --> 00:19:07,102 you reviewed that very report the next morning, didn't you? 439 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,495 It's quite possible. 440 00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:10,801 I often review the reports from the previous night 441 00:19:10,845 --> 00:19:12,934 the next morning.I see. 442 00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:16,938 And before the FBI informed you that Dr. Reznick was a suspect, 443 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:20,115 did you have any reason to suspect her of this crime? 444 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:21,464 No. 445 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:27,470 I've always believed Natalie to be trustworthy and... 446 00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:29,298 a passionate scientist. 447 00:19:29,342 --> 00:19:31,605 And I'm still inclined to believe so. 448 00:19:31,648 --> 00:19:33,607 I mean, hon... [sighs] 449 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:35,522 honestly... 450 00:19:35,565 --> 00:19:38,873 I hope the version of events you just laid out is the truth. 451 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:43,182 Thank you very much, Dr. Poulson. 452 00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:45,575 No further questions, Your Honor. 453 00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:48,404 Redirect? 454 00:19:49,449 --> 00:19:52,234 Regardless of what you might hope, 455 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:54,236 Dr. Poulson, 456 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,239 doesn't the fact remain that a pathogen was stolen 457 00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:58,762 from your lab? 458 00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:01,156 [quietly]: Yes. And based 459 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,289 on your own testimony, wouldn't you agree 460 00:20:03,332 --> 00:20:07,206 that Dr. Reznick was the only researcher 461 00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:08,903 who could possibly have had an opportunity 462 00:20:08,946 --> 00:20:10,470 to do it?Asked and answered, 463 00:20:10,513 --> 00:20:11,558 Your Honor. 464 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:13,516 Counsel is badgering the witness. 465 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,127 [gallery murmuring]I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 466 00:20:16,171 --> 00:20:18,391 How's the view from where you're sitting? 467 00:20:18,434 --> 00:20:20,001 The only good news is, 468 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:22,525 it can't get any worse. 469 00:20:28,705 --> 00:20:30,185 [Benny sighing] 470 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:36,278 I'm awake. It's okay. 471 00:20:36,322 --> 00:20:39,107 [chuckles] Partying all night with Astrid again, huh? 472 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:40,282 [yawns]: Yeah. 473 00:20:42,502 --> 00:20:45,287 I was sitting in the living room at 3:00 in the morning, 474 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:46,462 little Astrid up on my shoulder. 475 00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,508 I was trying to get a burp out of her. 476 00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:51,293 And I flip on the news, and we're everywhere. 477 00:20:51,337 --> 00:20:53,339 Mm-hmm.Every channel. 478 00:20:53,382 --> 00:20:56,124 And if it is our intention to convince the jury 479 00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:58,779 that the real anthrax killer is still out there, 480 00:20:58,822 --> 00:21:02,261 well, the national media has not picked up on it. 481 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,306 Which means... 482 00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:06,090 we're failing. 483 00:21:07,135 --> 00:21:09,311 Well, you don't know that. 484 00:21:09,355 --> 00:21:11,400 Our target's the jury, not cable news. 485 00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:13,359 But the world of cable news is the world 486 00:21:13,402 --> 00:21:15,186 these jurors go home to every night. 487 00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:18,189 And if the CNNs and the Foxes and the CNBCs aren't buying 488 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:19,930 our version of events, then neither 489 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:23,325 are the jurors' families or neighbors. 490 00:21:23,369 --> 00:21:27,111 And we all know they're not supposed to talk about the case 491 00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:32,378 or watch the news about it... but they do. 492 00:21:32,421 --> 00:21:35,990 I'm sorry, Bull, but I think you're being a little premature. 493 00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:38,427 The prosecution is still presenting their case, 494 00:21:38,471 --> 00:21:40,429 and we haven't even gotten our turn. 495 00:21:40,473 --> 00:21:43,432 I know. But we can't wait until then. 496 00:21:43,476 --> 00:21:45,608 We have to go on the offensive now. 497 00:21:45,652 --> 00:21:48,045 We got to use every objection, every cross to hammer home 498 00:21:48,089 --> 00:21:51,658 how dangerous it will be if the jury gets this one wrong. 499 00:21:51,701 --> 00:21:55,009 The killer is still out there. 500 00:21:56,140 --> 00:21:58,360 CONNORS: My wife, my-my wife Katie, 501 00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:01,407 she didn't aspire to a political life. 502 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,322 I mean, heck, when I met her in grad school, 503 00:22:03,365 --> 00:22:04,845 she didn't even read the paper. 504 00:22:04,888 --> 00:22:07,369 But then we fell in love, and the next thing you know, 505 00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:11,112 I'm running for office and then we're out there together 506 00:22:11,155 --> 00:22:13,419 on the campaign trail. 507 00:22:13,462 --> 00:22:15,638 Oh, she was a natural. 508 00:22:15,682 --> 00:22:17,771 I mean, she loved people. 509 00:22:17,814 --> 00:22:21,731 And people sensed it and they loved her right back. 510 00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:25,822 You see, I take enormous pride in being a congressman. 511 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:27,911 But the thought that my job, 512 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:30,436 that my commitment to public service 513 00:22:30,479 --> 00:22:35,397 somehow contributed to her d-death... [crying] 514 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:38,008 REYNOLDS: It's all right, Congressman Connors. 515 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:39,880 No further questions. 516 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:42,491 Uh, Bull, it's not looking good here. 517 00:22:42,535 --> 00:22:44,667 This jury really feels for the congressman. 518 00:22:44,711 --> 00:22:46,887 Of course they do. So do I. 519 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:49,846 But that doesn't mean his pain is Natalie's fault. 520 00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:52,632 Congressman Connors. 521 00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:55,417 I'd just like to say how profoundly sorry I am 522 00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:56,810 for your loss. 523 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:58,246 Thank you. 524 00:22:58,289 --> 00:23:00,466 Now, much has been made of the fact 525 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:04,208 that you were a part of a long list of legislators 526 00:23:04,252 --> 00:23:06,385 Dr. Reznick reached out to in the wake 527 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:09,126 of a funding cut to her research program. 528 00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:12,303 Now, do you recall Dr. Reznick's 529 00:23:12,347 --> 00:23:15,437 message to you to be threatening in any way? 530 00:23:15,481 --> 00:23:17,134 Honestly, I don't. 531 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:21,922 You see, my staff filters my e-mails, so I only learned about 532 00:23:21,965 --> 00:23:27,057 that message in the, in the aftermath of my wife's passing. 533 00:23:27,101 --> 00:23:30,147 But, no, it did not appear to be threatening. 534 00:23:30,191 --> 00:23:33,760 But I imagine your office must receive 535 00:23:33,803 --> 00:23:36,458 threatening e-mails from time to time? 536 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:38,417 Yes, unfortunately, in my line of work, 537 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,288 you have to make tough choices sometimes, 538 00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:41,985 choices that anger people, 539 00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:44,727 and occasionally those people do lash out. 540 00:23:44,771 --> 00:23:49,297 How many threats would you estimate that you've received 541 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:52,169 in the seven years that you've been in Congress? 542 00:23:52,213 --> 00:23:57,740 Uh, like I said, my staff filters my communications, 543 00:23:57,784 --> 00:24:00,177 so there's really no way for me to know. 544 00:24:00,221 --> 00:24:03,180 Well, my office inquired. 545 00:24:03,224 --> 00:24:07,097 And according to your staff, it's 102. 546 00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:08,316 [gallery murmuring] 547 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,187 That's how many unique threats 548 00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:13,364 your office has received in the past seven years. 549 00:24:13,408 --> 00:24:16,672 19 of those were death threats. 550 00:24:16,716 --> 00:24:18,848 So let me ask you, 551 00:24:18,892 --> 00:24:24,463 in the wake of these attacks, to the best of your knowledge, 552 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:29,250 did the FBI investigate those 19 people 553 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:32,035 who previously threatened to take your life? 554 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,473 They may have. 555 00:24:34,516 --> 00:24:36,823 Honestly, I don't know. 556 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:39,434 You don't know. 557 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:43,177 Wow. That's kind of unsettling. 558 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:46,310 I mean, did the FBI even ask you about 559 00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:50,314 anyone who possibly could have had a vendetta against you 560 00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:51,968 during that time period? 561 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:54,536 I don't know. 562 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:58,758 Well, then I truly am sorry for you, Congressman Connors. 563 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:02,501 Not only for your tragic loss, but also because, 564 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,765 apparently, law enforcement seems more interested 565 00:25:05,808 --> 00:25:08,463 in scapegoating Natalie Reznick than it does 566 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:11,640 in making sure your wife's real killer is off the streets. 567 00:25:11,684 --> 00:25:14,556 Objection. Counsel is testifying. 568 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,297 Sustained. 569 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:19,561 The jury will disregard the defense's last statement. 570 00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:21,432 Ask a question, Mr. Colón. 571 00:25:21,476 --> 00:25:22,738 That's all right, Your Honor. 572 00:25:22,782 --> 00:25:24,218 I have no further questions 573 00:25:24,261 --> 00:25:26,176 at this time.BULL: I'm sure you can't see it yet, 574 00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:28,483 but it finally feels like we're making progress. 575 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,659 AIMES: The government will call its next witness, please. 576 00:25:30,703 --> 00:25:33,793 The government rests its case, Your Honor. 577 00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:37,492 Then the defense will call its first witness, please. 578 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,321 My parents came to this country before I was born. 579 00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:42,802 They were scientists in the Soviet Union, 580 00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:44,804 but they refused to toe the party line, 581 00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:46,980 so their lives were in danger. 582 00:25:47,023 --> 00:25:50,505 They fled and they found sanctuary here, 583 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:51,375 in America. 584 00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:53,334 And until the day they died, 585 00:25:53,377 --> 00:25:55,597 they never ceased being grateful for that. 586 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:58,687 And they raised me to be grateful, too. 587 00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:02,517 I decided when I was 588 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,432 a very young girl that, when I grew up, 589 00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:06,434 I-I would help people somehow, 590 00:26:06,477 --> 00:26:08,349 protect people somehow. 591 00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:11,961 So, is that how you ended up researching cures 592 00:26:12,005 --> 00:26:14,050 for deadly biological weapons? 593 00:26:14,094 --> 00:26:17,227 Uh, well, it was... [stammers] 594 00:26:17,271 --> 00:26:19,447 It was part of it, sure. [chuckles] 595 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:21,101 A love of science. 596 00:26:22,145 --> 00:26:23,320 I don't know. 597 00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:25,845 It-it-it gives me a sense of satisfaction, 598 00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:27,542 like I'm-I'm pulling my own weight, 599 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,936 I'm doing my share. 600 00:26:29,979 --> 00:26:32,765 I am showing my gratitude. 601 00:26:32,808 --> 00:26:35,289 So the idea that you would hurt 602 00:26:35,332 --> 00:26:39,815 or kill fellow Americans for your own personal gain... 603 00:26:39,859 --> 00:26:41,338 Is absurd. 604 00:26:41,382 --> 00:26:43,340 To do the work that I do, 605 00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:45,647 you have-- you have to become a doctor. 606 00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:48,258 I'm-I'm a doctor. 607 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,304 I took an oath to save lives. 608 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:53,960 Why would I knowingly set out to hurt anyone? 609 00:26:54,003 --> 00:26:56,745 Kill anyone? 610 00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:58,486 Thank you, Dr. Reznick. 611 00:26:58,529 --> 00:27:00,880 No further questions, Your Honor. 612 00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:03,665 [quietly]: They look engaged to me, receptive. 613 00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:05,101 Open body language. 614 00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:07,147 A couple jurors are starting to lean in. 615 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:09,149 Does that line up with what you're seeing? 616 00:27:09,192 --> 00:27:10,411 Sure does. 617 00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:12,065 They're starting to find Natalie credible, 618 00:27:12,108 --> 00:27:15,155 and a few of them are now firmly on her side. 619 00:27:15,198 --> 00:27:17,026 REYNOLDS: So, 620 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:18,854 Dr. Reznick, 621 00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:20,682 the pleasure you take from your work 622 00:27:20,726 --> 00:27:24,425 is fundamentally altruistic, right? 623 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,558 I mean, you want to pull your own weight. 624 00:27:27,602 --> 00:27:30,387 You want to do your share. 625 00:27:30,431 --> 00:27:34,130 And, most of all, you want to helppeople, huh? 626 00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:35,654 Protect people. 627 00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:38,265 This is what you just testified to, correct? 628 00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:40,267 Yes. 629 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:41,703 And you would never want to hurt anyone. 630 00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:43,879 You certainly wouldn't want to see anyone die. 631 00:27:43,923 --> 00:27:44,967 I mean, the work 632 00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:45,968 you do, 633 00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:48,188 your very reason for being, 634 00:27:48,231 --> 00:27:51,452 is all about saving lives. 635 00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:52,845 Is that correct? 636 00:27:52,888 --> 00:27:55,021 That is what I said, yes. 637 00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:56,283 Interesting. 638 00:27:56,326 --> 00:27:58,285 Because I have a video 639 00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:00,374 of an academic conference you participated in, 640 00:28:00,417 --> 00:28:02,289 which would seem 641 00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,291 to suggest otherwise. 642 00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:05,727 Uh... [clears throat] Objection. 643 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:07,773 Your Honor, this is the first 644 00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:09,775 the defense has heard of any video. 645 00:28:09,818 --> 00:28:11,951 The AUSA knows...Your Honor, a concerned citizen 646 00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:13,909 sent this video to our office... ...he has a duty to disclose 647 00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:15,345 any and all......only just yesterday. 648 00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:17,347 Enough! Both of you. 649 00:28:17,391 --> 00:28:18,784 Mr. Reynolds, 650 00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:22,701 I'm gonna take you at your word and allow this. 651 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,442 Mr. Colón, I will give you ample time to prepare 652 00:28:25,486 --> 00:28:27,270 should you choose to redirect. 653 00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:28,924 Let's proceed. 654 00:28:30,186 --> 00:28:32,101 REYNOLDS: Is that you up there, Dr. Reznick, 655 00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:33,842 on the stage, in the video? 656 00:28:33,886 --> 00:28:35,670 It is. Yes. 657 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,281 REYNOLDS: Do you recall when this video was taken? 658 00:28:38,325 --> 00:28:40,457 Um, I-I believe 659 00:28:40,501 --> 00:28:44,461 it was an ethics panel at a microbiology conference 660 00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:47,464 about... ten years ago. 661 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:48,988 I was still a postgrad. 662 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:55,081 I have a hypothetical question for you, Dr. Reznick. 663 00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:56,343 Okay. 664 00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:59,433 If an unknown deadly virus or bacteria 665 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:01,914 were to infect an isolated group of people, 666 00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,393 what, in your opinion, 667 00:29:03,437 --> 00:29:06,222 is the best course of action? 668 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:08,311 Um, well, uh, 669 00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:13,055 if there was a chance to contain the outbreak within that group, 670 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:14,665 I'd say that the only choice 671 00:29:14,709 --> 00:29:17,843 is to quarantine the infected-- 672 00:29:17,886 --> 00:29:19,453 nobody in, nobody out-- 673 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:23,109 and then watch the, uh, progression of the disease. 674 00:29:23,152 --> 00:29:24,937 MODERATOR: Even if the disease were deadly? 675 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:26,373 NATALIE: Well, if you don't know 676 00:29:26,416 --> 00:29:27,417 what the pathogen is, 677 00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:29,724 treating the symptoms may be futile. 678 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:33,032 You're going to have to let in medical workers, 679 00:29:33,075 --> 00:29:34,294 and then, at some point, you're going 680 00:29:34,337 --> 00:29:35,904 to have to let them back out, 681 00:29:35,948 --> 00:29:37,427 and they very well may carry 682 00:29:37,471 --> 00:29:39,429 whatever it is to the general population. 683 00:29:39,473 --> 00:29:41,518 So, yeah, 684 00:29:41,562 --> 00:29:43,042 harsh as it sounds, 685 00:29:43,085 --> 00:29:45,784 quarantine. 686 00:29:45,827 --> 00:29:47,176 Because, unfortunately, 687 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:51,267 sometimes five have to die to save 5,000. 688 00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:53,661 [courtroom murmuring] 689 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:03,497 "Sometimes five have to die to save 5,000." 690 00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:10,765 Is that why you sent the anthrax through the mail, Dr. Reznick? 691 00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:14,334 Because you thought it would be okay to kill two 692 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:16,945 if it meant recovering the funds 693 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,382 that you needed in order to find a cure? 694 00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:21,210 BENNY: Objection. 695 00:30:21,254 --> 00:30:22,385 Facts not in evidence. 696 00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:23,865 Speculation. 697 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:25,084 Badgering. 698 00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:26,346 Should I go on? 699 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:28,043 Of course not. 700 00:30:28,087 --> 00:30:30,393 That is part of a larger conversation. 701 00:30:30,437 --> 00:30:32,308 You lifted that out of context.[gavel banging] 702 00:30:32,352 --> 00:30:34,136 AIMES: Dr. Reznick.And organically contracting 703 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:35,964 a disease is fundamentally different 704 00:30:36,008 --> 00:30:38,227 than intentionally infecting someone.Dr. Reznick. 705 00:30:38,271 --> 00:30:39,881 Dr. Reznick. 706 00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:43,145 Your attorney was making an objection on your behalf. 707 00:30:43,189 --> 00:30:45,104 In the future, when an attorney 708 00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:46,757 makes an objection, 709 00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:49,325 please refrain from answering until I've rendered my decision 710 00:30:49,369 --> 00:30:51,066 on the objection. 711 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:53,068 I will let the witness's statement 712 00:30:53,112 --> 00:30:54,896 remain in the record. 713 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,333 Let's take a ten-minute break and allow everyone 714 00:30:57,377 --> 00:30:59,509 to cool down. The witness will remain... How's this playing where you are? 715 00:30:59,553 --> 00:31:00,728 Not terribly well. 716 00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:02,556 I'm afraid we lost all our greens, Bull. 717 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,863 We will continue her testimony at that time.[gavel bangs] 718 00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:12,000 MARISSA: So, how was dinner?Not great. 719 00:31:12,044 --> 00:31:13,959 I wasn't hungry. I'd been eating 720 00:31:14,002 --> 00:31:15,308 my small intestine all afternoon. 721 00:31:15,351 --> 00:31:16,744 I promise you, 722 00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:19,138 it was as difficult to listen to over here 723 00:31:19,181 --> 00:31:23,838 as I'm sure it was for you to witness in person. 724 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,666 The problem is, was, 725 00:31:25,709 --> 00:31:27,842 and continues to be we've presented the jury 726 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,757 with no real alternatives to our client. 727 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,846 We keep insisting it must be someone else, but... 728 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,066 we never say who.BENNY: Yeah. 729 00:31:34,109 --> 00:31:36,677 Bull's hitting the nail on the head, Marissa. 730 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,984 Every time I feel like we're making progress, 731 00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:41,943 every time I feel a hint of traction with this jury, 732 00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:43,640 it all slips away. 733 00:31:43,684 --> 00:31:46,730 That's because they have no one else to consider but Natalie. 734 00:31:46,774 --> 00:31:48,907 I hear you. And all I can tell you is that... 735 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:50,952 [stammers] Danny, Chunk, and Taylor-- 736 00:31:50,996 --> 00:31:53,085 who is standing right next to me-- 737 00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:55,696 they're all beating the bushes, 738 00:31:55,739 --> 00:31:58,525 trying to find someone who could have plausibly pulled this off. 739 00:31:58,568 --> 00:32:00,092 Dr. Bull, did you get a chance 740 00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:01,963 to go through those dossiers I prepared for you? 741 00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:05,010 There's material there on almost 50 lab employees, 742 00:32:05,053 --> 00:32:06,968 all of whom have access to anthrax. 743 00:32:07,012 --> 00:32:09,840 I'm getting through them as fast as I can, Taylor. 744 00:32:09,884 --> 00:32:12,017 But it's not as if anyone flagged one of the employees 745 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:15,672 and said, "Here's a plausible suspect." 746 00:32:15,716 --> 00:32:16,935 Come on, Bull. We are all pulling 747 00:32:16,978 --> 00:32:18,501 on the same end of the rope here. 748 00:32:18,545 --> 00:32:20,939 [screams][screams] What? 749 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,070 The hell was that? 750 00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:23,985 What's going on over there? 751 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:29,164 [elevator bell chimes] 752 00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:31,993 [indistinct chatter] 753 00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:34,082 Uh... 754 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:36,171 is it... safe out here? 755 00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:37,868 Absolutely. 756 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:40,001 My name is, uh, Jason Bull. 757 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,960 This is my place of business. 758 00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:43,874 I have two employees inside. 759 00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:47,052 Do you have any sense of when they'll be able to come out? 760 00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:49,837 They will be able to come out at some point, right? 761 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,665 It's gonna be quite a while. 762 00:32:51,708 --> 00:32:53,580 You might want to give them a call. 763 00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:56,061 [exhales] 764 00:32:56,104 --> 00:32:57,584 BULL: How you guys feeling? 765 00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,978 At the moment? Absolutely fine. 766 00:33:00,021 --> 00:33:01,980 A little hungry. 767 00:33:02,023 --> 00:33:03,198 He asked. 768 00:33:03,242 --> 00:33:04,895 We can't eat anything from the kitchen. 769 00:33:04,939 --> 00:33:07,028 Can't eat anything until they give us the all clear 770 00:33:07,072 --> 00:33:08,682 and we can get out of here. 771 00:33:08,725 --> 00:33:10,336 We are gonna be fine. They've loaded us up with antibiotics. 772 00:33:10,379 --> 00:33:11,641 I think it's primarily 773 00:33:11,685 --> 00:33:13,861 about waiting for lab results at this point. 774 00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:16,298 Marissa, Taylor, I'm so sorry you're going through this. 775 00:33:16,342 --> 00:33:17,560 They give you 776 00:33:17,604 --> 00:33:19,127 any ETA on these tests? 777 00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:22,000 Uh, they've estimated another three hours or so. 778 00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:24,828 Taylor, do you need us to swing by your place 779 00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:25,916 and pick up your son? 780 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,701 Nope. He's at his dad's. 781 00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:29,137 Thank goodness. 782 00:33:29,181 --> 00:33:31,748 Hey, uh, guys, there's nothing for you to do here. 783 00:33:31,792 --> 00:33:33,402 Why don't you just head home? 784 00:33:33,446 --> 00:33:36,318 Bull, I will text you as soon as they tell us anything. 785 00:33:36,362 --> 00:33:38,277 As soon as they let us out of here. 786 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,061 Are you sure? I mean, 787 00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:42,063 I'm happy to stick around. 788 00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:43,891 We're good. 789 00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:46,067 We've got each other.Okay. 790 00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:48,069 Then I am going to go home, 791 00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:51,072 kiss my baby, 792 00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:53,292 and read some dossiers. 793 00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:58,036 Would you think I was a terrible person 794 00:33:58,079 --> 00:33:59,515 if I told you that, 795 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,909 as horrible as this must be for Marissa and Taylor, 796 00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:04,433 there's potentially a big upside to it? 797 00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:07,001 Oh, thank God. 798 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:10,004 I thought I was the only one whose mind worked that way. 799 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,006 Natalie's in jail. 800 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,139 So she couldn't have done it. 801 00:34:14,182 --> 00:34:15,923 If the FBI and the CDC confirm 802 00:34:15,966 --> 00:34:19,100 that the handwriting is the same on the letter we got at TAC 803 00:34:19,144 --> 00:34:20,841 as on the envelopes that went out 804 00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:22,582 to the congressman and the newscaster... 805 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:24,584 And that the construction of the gizmo 806 00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:28,022 that makes sure the anthrax makes contact with the person 807 00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,067 is similar... 808 00:34:30,546 --> 00:34:33,506 I think our client is free and clear. 809 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:37,336 I'll make sure to keep all my digits crossed. 810 00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:38,946 [snoring] 811 00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:40,295 [phone vibrating] 812 00:34:40,339 --> 00:34:42,341 [snorts] 813 00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:47,389 [whispering]: Hello? 814 00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:48,999 Marissa. 815 00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,785 Tell me what's going on. 816 00:34:53,352 --> 00:34:55,832 On your way home? 817 00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:57,747 Uh, that's great. 818 00:34:57,791 --> 00:35:00,010 Great to hear. 819 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:03,536 Really? 820 00:35:03,579 --> 00:35:05,929 They certain of that? Powdered sugar? 821 00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:11,065 Yeah, that is funny. 822 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:13,198 If Taylor had only licked her fingers, 823 00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:16,201 she wouldn't have been hungry anymore. 824 00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:19,073 Well, the two of you get something to eat, 825 00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:22,032 get some sleep, and I'll see you in the morning. 826 00:35:22,076 --> 00:35:23,860 Night. 827 00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:26,124 ♪ 828 00:35:26,167 --> 00:35:28,169 [exhales] 829 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:30,824 You have no idea how happy I am 830 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:33,957 to be standing here, talking to you. 831 00:35:34,001 --> 00:35:37,961 You have no idea how happy I am to be talked to. 832 00:35:38,005 --> 00:35:39,006 Mm. 833 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:40,573 Just a copycat. 834 00:35:40,616 --> 00:35:43,924 Copycat with powdered sugar trying to intimidate us. 835 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:46,231 Somebody who'd watched the news and convinced themselves 836 00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:48,102 that Natalie is a murderer 837 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:50,278 and that we're the bad guys just doing whatever we can 838 00:35:50,322 --> 00:35:52,324 to help her evade the law.Well, 839 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,153 I went through the rest of the dossiers early this morning, 840 00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:58,112 and I found one that ticked a lot of boxes for me. 841 00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,635 Really? 842 00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,290 What if I told you that one of the employees at Hudson 843 00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:05,119 served as a medic during the first Gulf War? 844 00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:09,254 Okay. And that's meaningful because...? 845 00:36:09,297 --> 00:36:11,604 Because it means they have firsthand knowledge 846 00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:15,434 of the devastation biological and chemical weapons cause. 847 00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:18,524 No offense, but that hardly seems like enough 848 00:36:18,567 --> 00:36:20,613 to get a jury to change its mind. 849 00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:23,442 What if I told you this person was stationed in territory 850 00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:27,228 where Saddam Hussein was waging chemical and biological warfare 851 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:30,362 against a large swath of civilians? 852 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:33,365 Still kind of feels like we're making some big leaps here, 853 00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:34,540 don't you think? 854 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,977 I don't know. 855 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,372 Why does someone dedicate their life to finding an antidote 856 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:42,243 to something like anthrax? 857 00:36:42,287 --> 00:36:44,550 We know why Natalie did it. 858 00:36:44,593 --> 00:36:48,510 She felt... a sense of obligation to her country. 859 00:36:50,338 --> 00:36:52,645 So, what if this person did it 860 00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:54,473 because they keenly understood 861 00:36:54,516 --> 00:36:58,085 that biological weapons were an imminent threat to the homeland? 862 00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:01,654 So, when Congress cut their funding for the research, 863 00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:04,352 they took matters into their own hands 864 00:37:04,396 --> 00:37:06,311 and decided the one 865 00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,096 or two deaths necessary to seize the public's imagination 866 00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:13,100 were a fair trade if it helped prevent a greater harm. 867 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:16,495 So, you're saying the FBI had the right motive-- 868 00:37:16,538 --> 00:37:19,367 just pegged the wrong person. 869 00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:23,371 Who is this person? 870 00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:25,243 Roger Simpkins? 871 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,157 Uh, Natalie's boss? 872 00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:29,856 The man who oversees the entire program? 873 00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:33,338 His position means he can come and go between labs by himself 874 00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:34,948 without raising suspicion, 875 00:37:34,991 --> 00:37:37,080 which means he has access 876 00:37:37,124 --> 00:37:38,386 to anthrax. 877 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:39,735 Not to mention the know-how 878 00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:42,390 and the equipment to dry the spores with. 879 00:37:42,434 --> 00:37:44,349 DANNY: Not only did Dr. Simpkins have the motive, 880 00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:46,699 the means, and the opportunity to commit this crime-- 881 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:48,440 he was also in the perfect position 882 00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:49,745 to frame Natalie Reznick. 883 00:37:49,789 --> 00:37:51,834 BULL: Natalie had to get her boss's okay 884 00:37:51,878 --> 00:37:53,488 before she wrote to that list 885 00:37:53,532 --> 00:37:55,882 of legislators and journalists in the wake of the budget cuts. 886 00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:57,579 Dr. Simpkins 887 00:37:57,623 --> 00:38:00,016 could easily have pulled Congressman Connors' 888 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:03,803 and Allison Rojas' names from that list in an effort 889 00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:05,544 to make Natalie look guilty. 890 00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:07,546 [scoffs] 891 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:08,808 I'm sorry, 892 00:38:08,851 --> 00:38:13,334 but none of this sounds terribly convincing. 893 00:38:13,378 --> 00:38:15,858 In fact, it sounds desperate, 894 00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:17,425 like you know you're about to lose 895 00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:19,514 and you're throwing spaghetti on the wall, 896 00:38:19,558 --> 00:38:20,863 hoping something will stick. 897 00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:23,170 Look, I came to this meeting 898 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:24,476 in good faith. 899 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,260 But I got to tell you, 900 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:29,089 I believe Natalie Reznick is guilty, 901 00:38:29,132 --> 00:38:31,004 and nothing I've heard here today 902 00:38:31,047 --> 00:38:34,137 even remotely begins to change my mind. 903 00:38:34,181 --> 00:38:36,357 Well, perhaps we should have skipped the warm-up then. 904 00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:39,621 Danny, the pièce de résistance, if you will. 905 00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:47,499 You recognize these images, Mr. Reynolds? 906 00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:48,630 Of course. 907 00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:50,197 Those are from the security footage 908 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:54,070 the FBI lifted near the mailbox where the letters were sent. 909 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:55,376 You were never able to identify Natalie 910 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,160 in any of these photos, were you? 911 00:38:57,204 --> 00:38:58,727 [scoffs] Come on. Look at the time of year. 912 00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:00,468 Look how everyone is dressed. 913 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:03,906 Nevertheless, we do believe one of them is Natalie. 914 00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:05,517 Well, in the same way you set out to prove 915 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,909 one of them is Natalie, 916 00:39:06,953 --> 00:39:10,260 we set out to prove one of them is Dr. Simpkins. 917 00:39:11,827 --> 00:39:13,612 We widened the surveillance area 918 00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:15,527 and accessed all of the security cameras 919 00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:17,355 within a half-mile radius of the mailbox. 920 00:39:17,398 --> 00:39:19,182 BENNY: Now, the FBI determined that there was 921 00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:22,360 an eight-hour window during which the letters were mailed. 922 00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:25,841 So, using a photograph of Dr. Simpkins' face, 923 00:39:25,885 --> 00:39:28,104 our office created an algorithm 924 00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:31,107 to scan all eight hours of the footage 925 00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:32,718 from every single camera. 926 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,938 DANNY: This is what we found. 927 00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:38,201 Recorded by an ATM about four blocks away 928 00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:40,421 from the mailbox. 929 00:39:40,465 --> 00:39:43,685 BULL: As you can see, that's Roger Simpkins. 930 00:39:43,729 --> 00:39:45,774 And you'll notice his hat 931 00:39:45,818 --> 00:39:48,386 perfectly matches this hat. 932 00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:50,518 In this photo. 933 00:39:50,562 --> 00:39:53,826 Where a person is clearly mailing letters. 934 00:39:53,869 --> 00:39:56,176 Letters which I would bet contain anthrax. 935 00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:01,399 Nice work. 936 00:40:05,054 --> 00:40:07,448 Well, I suppose the four of us 937 00:40:07,492 --> 00:40:09,450 should take a walk down to the judge's chambers, 938 00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:10,408 see if we can get an audience. 939 00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:15,195 If this isn't probable cause for a search warrant, 940 00:40:15,238 --> 00:40:17,153 I don't know what is. 941 00:40:22,463 --> 00:40:23,725 Look out there. 942 00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:25,423 You see a single face mask? 943 00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:26,815 Nope. 944 00:40:26,859 --> 00:40:28,338 Just people walking their dogs, 945 00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:30,340 strolling their kids. 946 00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:32,734 Well, it's like we told the judge-- 947 00:40:32,778 --> 00:40:34,910 the FBI searched Dr. Simpkins' apartment, 948 00:40:34,954 --> 00:40:37,173 only to discover it, too, had been bleached. 949 00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:39,741 Luckily, when they opened up the HVAC ducts, 950 00:40:39,785 --> 00:40:43,745 they found anthrax spores behind a vent in the kitchen. 951 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:46,487 I still have a hard time believing it. 952 00:40:46,531 --> 00:40:48,271 We talked about it all the time. 953 00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:51,274 He kept saying how he wanted to help people, 954 00:40:51,318 --> 00:40:52,667 protect people. 955 00:40:52,711 --> 00:40:54,452 Oh, I'm sure he thought he was doing just that. 956 00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:56,932 Doing it for the greater good. 957 00:40:56,976 --> 00:41:00,414 You know, I guess that's why I like my work so much. 958 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,243 Bacteria may be challenging, 959 00:41:03,286 --> 00:41:06,420 but they're a whole hell of a lot easier to understand 960 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,422 than people. 961 00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:18,476 Captioning sponsored by CBS 962 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,478 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 68466

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