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- Since the day she vanished,

I searched everywhere

until I was exhausted.

I never ignored any leads.

I heard in the news about

where kids had disappeared, and I went there.

Someone would say beggars

had kidnapped them or something else.

Whenever I got

any information, I went there.

Every 15 to 20 days,

a child would vanish.

The significant thing is

this happened

at one specific location.

Rumors were that the children

Went to the water tower and disappeared.

No one knew

what happened to them.

All of these children

were from

lower-class families.

One's father

was a rickshaw driver. Another was a peddler.

These children

would go out to play

and suddenly disappear.

- I wondered,

"What happened? Where is she?"

Such nasty thoughts.

Horrible ideas in my head

about the possibilities.

She is a girl,

so how can a father imagine anything good?

When we were kids,

she told me,

"Ask for some money

from Dad,

so we can

eat something nice."

She would save her

half for Dad, while I would eat the rest.

Mom said,

"You both are so different.

She shares her food,

but you eat yours all up."

Mom told her to take

the clothes to the tailor.

Jyoti said, "I will go."

She bought a banana

and asked Mom

to give me half of it.

She gave me

half of the banana before leaving.

After that, I never saw her.

Dad searched for her.

We waited on the street,

hoping she would turn up.

At the house where she went,

Mom even asked him

if he had seen her.

She was right there

in his house. She was still alive.

These children

had been disappearing since January 2005.

That was when the first case

was reported.

Some minor investigations

were done.

But they were not taken

too seriously.

If you look

at the demographics,

Sector 31 is a posh area,

but it's adjacent

to Nithari.

Nithari has a lot of

small huts

occupied by

low-wage laborers.

While I was posted there,

Vinod Pandey was the chief

investigative officer on this case.

When 20 to 25 cases

had piled up,

we noticed how many children were missing.

Strange. All of them

from the same area.

There were no clues.

We were pulling

our hair out.

How could

we solve these cases?

-We discovered

many children had vanished in the same manner.

After that, I had the team

map out the areas

where the children

were disappearing from.

We concluded

the children were

disappearing from a 100-meter stretch

near Nithari.

We viewed the area where

the children vanished as a black hole.

We put a police patrol

in the area, so we could stop future incidents.

As soon as the patrol was taken away,

The next day,

two girls vanished.

And when we heard this,

we got very angry.

How was this possible?

We saw there was

no patrol there.

Furious.

We were sure something

was happening there.

We believed that

there was a gang

kidnapping girls

for prostitution

or kids for begging.

-In for four months,

we went to

all the red-light districts.

We went to every

red-light area within 500 kilometers of this area.

- Many girls

were rescued because of the raids.

Twenty-one girls were found.

But none of our

Nithari girls.

We were always anxious.

"Maybe she'll be

found today or tomorrow."

That was the

only thought I had.

If she's not alive,

how can I find her?

Please tell me

about my daughter, Jyoti.

What will happen

to her enemies?

Please stay calm.

He has captured

your daughter.

Her mind has been numbed.

So she's oblivious

to her parents' names.

About Jyoti, please.

How is she?

Will there be justice for her?

You didn't make a decision.

Why don't you? The decision

is stuck because of you.

Where is the water?

She told us

Jyoti isn't here.

She has been murdered.

There is no point

in looking for her.

She won't be found.

- The people

of Nithari were convinced

something was happening

to the girls there.

- In the beginning,

the cops harassed me a lot.

"Kick him out. His daughter

ran away with someone,

and he is

wasting our time."

She left at four o'clock.

I opened the gate

and put her in a rickshaw.

Sector 31. Nithari.

What could've happened?

Her mobile phone

was switched off.

I felt uneasy.

-Somehow, through someone's

recommendation, I met Nand Lal.

His 22-year-old daughter,

Payal, had vanished. And she had a mobile phone.

At that time, I was in charge

Of electronic surveillance

in Noida.

We asked him about

the last time he spoke with her.

Did she fight with someone?

Was she suicidal?

We looked at it from these angles.

He said,

"No, she was very happy."

He said, "My daughter

was going to Pandher's house for work."

- There were no clues.

No one was able to give me

any substantial leads.

Suddenly, one day

a local from

the village told me

about the mysterious

happenings at the D5 house.

This house belonged

to a businessman from Chandigarh,

Moninder Singh Pandher.

He was a well-respected

businessman.

His family

was in Chandigarh.

He owned a big company.

One more person lived

in the D5 house. His name was Surinder Koli.

He was the servant

of the house.

He came from Uttarakhand.

He looked like a very quiet

and calm person.

There were a lot of

rumors about Pandher.

That he was an alcoholic.

Whenever he was present

in the house,

call girls

used to come over.

I said to Pandher, "My girl,

Payal, came here the day before yesterday."

He said, "I do not know

any Payal."

We stood there

for a long time, questioning him.

I was suspicious that

she was either

locked up inside

or had been kidnapped.

We tracked the location

of Pandher's mobile phone

on the date

when she went to his house.

He was in Chandigarh.

We called Pandher.

"Where were you

when this girl called you?"

He said his father

had passed away, so he was in Chandigarh.

Pandher was a very

respected person.

But we still verified

everything to be true.

We had no clues,

leads, or suspects. We couldn't do anything.

Then we began to question

Pandher more aggressively.

When we pushed him more,

he broke.

"Payal was a call girl,"

he said.

"I used to pay her

25,000 rupees per night,"

or something like that.

"Whenever I returned home,

I called her.

She stayed the night

and left the next day."

He told us something

very strange.

Payal's father

used to pimp her

for 40,000 rupees a month.

We called Nand Lal back.

He shamelessly admitted,

"Despite what I make

my daughter do,

you still have to find her."

I had completely

given up on my life.

If I have to live,

I have to find her. If not, I'll die.

I won't go home like this.

Both my wife and I had given up on life.

I was in no state

to go back home.

We went mad.

But God was with us.

On December 21st,

I got an email

saying Payal's phone

has been tracked.

I was pleased.

The last one said

he got the phone from a rickshaw puller.

We asked him if the phone

was ringing when he got it.

"Yes," he said,

"it was ringing."

So, if it was ringing,

it had a SIM card. Where is it now?

SIM cards have unique

15-digit numbers.

He showed me the number,

and I sent it to all the mobile phone companies.

I worked rapidly.

They responded quickly.

The owner's name was

Surinder Koli, Village Nithari, Noida.

Within five to ten minutes,

I was there, in front of the house.

We asked Koli,

"Where did you find this phone?"

He said, "The neighbor's

driver gave it to me."

He was very shrewd,

clever and thick-skinned.

We asked the driver,

but he denied it.

The driver said that Koli

had called him before leaving Almora and asked him

to tell the cops that

he found the phone and gave it to Koli.

We caught Koli's lie.

I made

a statue of her.

In my heart, I felt she died

but saved many souls.

If she hadn't been killed,

then so many others would have died.

I felt that our family

should worship her for the rest of our lives.

She was a blessed girl.

She paid with her life

to save many others.

We were about

five to six people.

We always thought

we were good interrogators.

We could deal with different

people's psychology.

But you would not believe

how he dealt with us.

The answers he gave us

were hard to believe.

"I was here, I was there."

We got tired.

When one of us got tired,

the next took over.

It was

non-stop interrogation.

We were getting frustrated.

But he refused to budge.

We were puzzled.

We locked him back up and played some cricket.

We decided to return fresh.

Again, he kept lying

that he didn't know anything

and he had nothing

to do with it.

- He was a very tough criminal.

I've only faced

one or two like him.

As cops,

we can deal with a lot.

We're always

patient and calm.

But he made our blood boil.

He shook everything up.

He made our temperatures rise.

We told him

there was no way out.

You won't get out.

It's either life in prison or death.

Only two choices.

No third option.

When we mentally

terrorized him,

he felt death

was the only way out.

With no way out,

he accepted Payal's murder.

"Since you do not

believe me, fine. I killed her."

He was nonchalant.

After all that torture,

he was still so calm.

Any normal human being

would've died.

If you killed her,

where is the body?

He said,

"I got rid of the body."

There has to be some

evidence of the murder.

You have to

provide the evidence.

"Since you don't believe me,

I threw her purse

and clothes

in the yard

behind the house."

We sent a team to the area.

They retrieved the purse

and other items.

We called Nand Lal.

Nand Lal verified

that it was Payal's purse.

We asked Koli

why he had killed her.

His response made us believe

that something wasn't quite

right with him.

He said Payal

was a call girl

who often stayed with

his master for the night.

He wished he could

have the same, because she was very pretty.

"I called her.

I asked her to come by

and promised to introduce he to some new clients.

"The clients

will be here soon.

But in the meantime,

let's have sex.

I offered her 500 rupees."

She said, "For that much,

I won't even let my brother touch me."

"While she was

drinking the tea,

I strangled her

with her scarf.

And then I tried.

I tried having sex with her

after she was dead."

And then we thought

if he treated

a 22-year-old girl

like this,

then children

would be easy targets with zero resistance.

If he had this mentality,

maybe he could

do this to children.

In the black hole, he was

the only person who could do something like this.

You won't believe

what I'm about to tell you.

- I'm getting chills right now.

As soon as I showed him

the paper with the missing children's photos,

you won't believe

what he started saying.

A girl was walking

from Sector 30 to Nithari.

Later on, looking

at her photo,

the police told me

her name was Jhumpa.

I called her in

for some work.

I told her that Madame

was coming and would talk to her about the wages.

As she looked away,

I strangled her from behind

with her own scarf.

She became unconscious,

and I tried having sex with her.

When I couldn't

have sex with her,

I strangled and killed her.

He said,

"I don't know where I got this energy from.

I went crazy.

I strangled and killed them.

I tried to have sex

with the bodies, but could not."

Afterwards,

I took her upstairs to the bathroom.

I went down to the kitchen,

took a knife and went back up.

And I cut her up.

I cut off

a piece of her chest

and her shoulder and ate it.

I cooked her in the kitchen.

Cooked her in the kitchen?

Yes. I do not remember

how much I ate.

- What about - the other children?

I simply didn't have

the courage to ask.

Because he would have done

the same thing to all of them.

The same story.

I left the room. This was tragic.

- The children who we thought were alive

Were now all dead.

This incident shook up

my entire life.

I never thought I'd find

so many dead children.

He said, "I cut off

their heads and put them in the backyard."

I asked him where.

He said, "The same area you found Payal's purse."

There is only garbage there.

He said, "It's underneath all the garbage.

I wrapped the heads

in plastic bags

and threw garbage

on top of them to hide the smell.

Yes, all the

children's heads."

After I asked Nand Lal

to identify the purse,

he went and told

others about it.

He told everyone

that Koli confessed

and we found Payal's stuff

in the backyard.

Everyone knew.

All the families of the

missing children started to gather.

Lots of people.

House D5

was the crime scene.

All the evidence

was inside the house,

in the backyard,

or in the drain.

So, we immediately

sealed the area.

He's a servant

for a business man.

He confessed.

They are questioning him and searching for evidence.

Sir, how many bodies

have been recovered so far? What's the plan?

So far, he's confessed

to five to six children's bodies.

We are looking for them.

We're not sure of the

exact number. The search is still on.

We'll keep updating you.

Noida is India's media hub.

The headquarters of

all the TV channels are there.

Even a small incident

receives a lot of publicity.

And this was a big incident.

KILLER OF INNOCENTS

Can a human stoop

to such depths of animalism

just for a few pennies,

or to satisfy his lust?

These are not the actions

of a civilized person.

Koli and Pandher's perverse

actions have proven that

the animal inside us

still lives.

Who doesn't even

think once before killing innocent children?

By profession,

Koli was a caretaker.

- But he turned out to be a murderer of the innocent.

The police claim that

he has confessed to killing five children,

which includes

boys and girls.

Koli has also confessed

that after killing them, he indulged in necrophilia.

Satish, aka Koli,

is a native of Almora in Uttaranchal.

For the last five

to six years,

he was the caretaker

of D5 house in Noida.

This house belongs to

a businessman named Pandher.

It is difficult to

exclude Pandher's involvement in these crimes,

so obviously the police

have also arrested him.

I was a new journalist.

Everyone was thinking,

"How could someone do something like this?"

Cannibalism, necrophilia...

We had never heard

of these things in India.

Any country's media

could sensationalize a case like this.

First of all, so many kids.

Then, all the details of the killings.

Police involvement.

Every day,

something new was revealed.

There were many things

to investigate in this case.

You can call this

sensationalizing,

or that people

were demanding to know more and more.

Every channel was saying,

"We have something new for you."

But then what happened?

Even the cops were worried.

They never thought

this crime would be this huge.

-Maybe one or two girls,

or just Payal.

They never thought

there would be so many.

- They were pretty scared, too,

As the entire press corps

was over there,

and if the cops messed up,

it would be noticed.

In the minds of the

victims' families who had lost their children,

they lost their

four-year-old, and how?

This wasn't just a normal

kidnapping or murder.

When someone learns

their child was raped and had limbs severed,

anger is a natural reaction.

And they believed this

went on because of Pandher.

My kid has died!

I want revenge!

Burn the house down!

I want revenge!

He ate up my kid!

I want to beat him,

I want revenge!

We have more information.

The criminals are in jail.

They will be

brought to justice.

Whatever important

information we need, we will gather from them.

We don't want anything

to go amiss in this important investigation.

It will be done

with 100% perfection.

Sir, how many

murders has he confessed to?

How many bodies

have been found?

Out of the 17 skulls

that were found,

ten have been identified.

We have more news

coming in,

therefore identification

is increasing.

- [Karan Singh - speaking English] - When the media

- Went ballistic - over everything,

That day we knew things

are not going to be the same.

That is the way the media

would like to manipulate things, you know.

They want to create story.

And that is, I think,

the best way for them to create story.

Otherwise, without

Moninder Singh Pandher, is there a story?

It's just

another crime then.

When you have a rich man

stuck in something, then it's a story.

There was a crowd outside our house.

You should have seen the rage in their eyes.

You should have seen the rage,

What a common man

held for us.

The very next day, I think,

I was told by my uncle

to, you know,

get ready to get yourself

a general

power of attorney ready.

Because as he is behind bars,

You will need to enact on things.

You will need to make

decisions on his behalf.

I cannot plan things ahead.

I cannot give

any commitments to people around time.

I have to manipulate

everything around my father's cases.

Because my priority

is my father's cases, now.

"Karan,

Dad has been arrested.

What happened?

Just find out.

Mom, I am going to Delhi."

I said, "You're not going to Delhi.

You just wait there,

I am coming right now."

When I came inside,

he was literally crying.

Saying, "Mama, I don't

understand what is this."

Through the news only

we came to know,

these killings

were happening in the house.

And we weren't aware of it.

We were really shocked.

- For five minutes

they made us meet my father.

But they said

not more than that.

Just to show you he is all right.

There is nothing wrong with him.

He is being well taken care of.

-That time I met him

for the first time.

- And i think we started crying

when we met him.

He just couldn't believe

what blunder had happened.

Even he did not expect

the thing to go so much out of hand.

And he just kept on saying

"I have not done it.

I don't know what's happened.

Please forgive me.

Please forgive me.

I didn't want to put you guys through this."

-That is all he kept saying.

He just couldn't believe

what had happened.

He may be in jail,

but we are equally in jail also.

We are also confined

by everything.

We cannot expand our work.

We cannot progress in life

unless this gets over.

Because this is something

that will take, consume our entire time.

This is the road going...

This is the road.

This goes...

And this is our house.

There is the water tower.

Yeah, water tank.

The CBI

got involved in the case 15 days after it was opened.

By the time

we reached the house,

the crime scene

was quite disturbed.

The exterior

had been ransacked.

But the interior,

the main scene of the crime, was fine.

After talking to them,

it was clear

that the incidents

had to do only with these two guys.

There was no gang

or third party involved.

Therefore, the plan of

action was confined

to these two

and the crime scene.

There was no need

to collect any evidence from anywhere else.

"To my dear

respected father,

from your daughter, Simran."

Make him

uncover his face.

"We have no tears.

We are helpless.

Drops of blood fall.

Have you thought about us?"

Make him

turn this way, that way.

That way.

- For me as a behavioral scientist,

- It was more to understand the psychopathology,

The psychodynamics

of the mind.

Why does a mind thinks

and decides to do what it has done?

He was definitely

not psychotic.

For that we did a whole lot

of psychological assessment.

He had either a problem

of erection or either a problem of ejaculation.

So that made him

go more and more, choose to fantasy life.

Even before he came

to Pandher's house,

he was working

with another person,

for almost a year and half.

- He said when he was living in their houses,

There also

he had all those fantasies.

- But there - the home atmosphere

Did not give him

those kind of opportunities,

wherein he could give way

to his fantasies.

- But when he came to Pandher's house,

He says he used to

tell Pandher very frequently

he never liked

call girls coming home.

- He used to tell him to not get them home.

He is not comfortable

with them.

But very soon he realized

that he would ignore that,

take it lightly, or say you don't worry.

You don't interact with them, kind of thing.

It started getting

precipitated by the dream.

He says he used to dream

when probably a lady

in a white sari would come,

and he says it would be

in one place only.

Come and stand

near the fridge and just laugh at him.

When those fantasies

became haunting,

with the visual imageries,

that is where it became

so very pathological for him.

And so very lonely.

He was very good with me.

I don't feel

my husband was like that,

because he never

behaved that way with me.

He was very good with me.

He treated me very well.

He took care of me

like you care

for a child, that's a fact.

I swear on my own child.

As long as he was with me,

he took very good care of me.

Then he returned

after six months.

He stayed for a few days,

and then went back.

We would go together

to pick grass or gather wood.

Wherever we went,

we went together. He never left me alone.

When we were together, there was love and affection between us.

There was only one phone

in our village at that time.

Every morning, he used to

call me on that phone.

We would talk,

and he would say, "I am missing home.

I miss you."

He said there were

some problems then.

"I can't come home

because there are some problems here,

but I will come soon."

From the time the visual

imagery would appear,

till the time he would

dispose the body

and what I call

a totally calm period,

which would come

the subsequent day.

In that kind of 48 hours,

I can say almost he lived

in a different state of consciousness.

If you see the whole list

of people he has picked up,

he starts with children

from the age range of

five to seven

and then gradually it increases.

Then it goes to adolescents,

and then it comes to adults,

- and then it goes to married women also.

In all of these places,

he was trying to experiment

his own competence.

To get his urge satisfied.

Now, after that will come to

the relevant question.

At Pandher's request,

did you feed him

human flesh?

That is

the relevant question.

The police thought Koli,

upon Pandher's request,

cooked and fed him

human flesh.

But it is not like that.

He has said,

"No." It's negative.

There is a little variation,

but not enough

to consider it a lie.

Two opposite natures.

One was a totally extrovert,

who was fond of...

Who belonged

to an elite society.

Well educated,

fond of getting girls.

Having fun, enjoying life.

The other one

is a totally introvert.

And that is where

he clarified in the end, okay?

But it was the extreme anger

towards the owner,

which made him feel

that he...

See, he couldn't have

inner control.

Then the external environment

Became so very congenial.

It did not help him

in regaining his control.

On the contrary,

it helped him in giving vent

to his inner urge.

- I cry so much,

that I pray to God

that all these tears

should go to his children.

To his grandchildren.

To the person

who has done all this.

If it has to be my husband,

then let it be so.

If Pandher did it,

or got it done, then let that be so.

But whoever is responsible,

may that person

be destroyed. That's it.

After the case was opened,

I didn't eat for a month.

Then I had my son.

I had my son.

I felt hopeful,

as I raised him. Maybe then?

My own milk

wasn't there for him.

He couldn't get

his own mother's milk.

I felt very sad.

Because I was not eating,

my son couldn't get any milk.

Because he wasn't getting

any milk, I started eating to give him my milk.

- Slowly, he started getting my milk.

When he got my milk,

I felt happy

- that he is getting some nutrients.

Then, I breast-fed him

for five years.

I've found happiness in him,

since he was born.

She said, "I do not want

to write this letter."

I told her, "You have to."

Because you are his blood.

You have to write

to your father in your own hand at least once."

"What were you thinking?

You destroyed our lives.

And what did you get

from that?

Please tell us.

What went through your head?

Thank you, Dad.

Your daughter, Simran."

This Pandher,

who was constantly being shown on TV,

we used to think

he was a monster, not a human being.

When I saw them

for the first time,

I felt no pity for them.

Their faces told me

that they had no regrets

for their crimes.

I would think about

the parents and put myself in their shoes.

Then I realized

how deep I needed to go

and how much justice

these parents deserved.

There was so much

sensation around this case.

You would have gotten

convicted.

Whether you are innocent,

whether you did it or not, you will be sentenced.

As a criminal lawyer, I felt

how awful the crime was.

No lawyer in Ghaziabad

wanted to take up our case.

- They just didn't want to take up our case.

They had branded my father

as a murderer and as a molester.

Pandher's son

came to us.

He said,

"My father is innocent.

And I need your help."

I told him, "Going by what I have read and seen,

I don't think

your father is innocent."

Then I looked at all

the evidence and realized,

"Wow, this man is

actually innocent."

The truth seemed so far

from what was reported.

If I can't help

an innocent man,

then why am I

practicing law?

- Rimpa Haldar case

was one of those cases

where we were summoned by the court.

We were not charge sheeted by the CBI.

- Previously,

our family was fine.

Even if we were poor,

we were at peace.

After my girl vanished,

our peace disappeared.

As long as we live,

we'll be tense.

This is not good.

The world is a very bad place.

The cops said she could

be anywhere.

Who cares?

No one helps the poor.

That's the fact.

We went crazy looking for her.

Whenever I go out,

I think of her.

When I go to a wedding,

I remember her.

If our daughter was alive,

she'd be married by now.

She is always on my mind.

His charges

as per the CBI charge sheet were

minute charges.

Immoral Traffic Act.

Corruption Act.

Uh, harboring.

That's about it.

- When everyone learned that

he had been charged

for only two minor crimes,

there was

a bit of an uproar.

- How can nothing be found against him?

No evidence?

This is impossible.

They build all

these buildings, empires,

rooms with A/C.

What's the use?

Throw it all away.

Law and order does not exist.

I want

to tell the media that,

whenever he comes to our court,

He will be beaten up.

This is how we will give

an answer.

We are human beings

as well as lawyers.

Every citizen of India should do the same.

This is the first time

something so disgusting has occurred in India.

All this cannibalism

of children. Selling their parts.

The law is for humans.

This guy is a monster.

When he comes to our court,

this is how we will greet him.

This time,

he got off.

- My heart will only rest

when he is hanged

for his awful crimes.

It will give me

some peace of mind.

- The victims'

families told me

that when those two

were confessing,

they were also

present there.

Pandher confessed

in front of them.

Koli also gave a statement

saying he did it.

Pandher himself said

he had killed.

- So, Tehelka

found some documents

containing the case diary

from Payal's case.

Every case has a diary,

which is maintained by

the investigating officer.

That's the case diary.

But the CBI mentioned

the case diary

only where Koli took

responsibility for the murders.

They omitted completely

Pandher's confession,

where he admitted

to the murders.

- Pandher said,

"When I could not sleep at night,

I asked Koli

to get me a girl.

Koli would go

in front of the gate

and find me a girl

and bring her to me.

First I would rape the child

and then give her to Koli. 'Do whatever you want.'

When he was finished,

I would tell him to kill,

cut up,

and dispose of the body."

- There is

no confession in the police custody

made by my father.

He was made to sign

two blank documents

by Noida police,

which I was told by

my father the day I met him, "I have signed two documents

which are blank

and submitted to the Noida police."

Those documents

have not been relied upon by the CBI,

because any evidence given

to the police,

or any, uh, confession given

to the police

is not admissible in the

Indian Judicial System.

Add to that also,

to take my father's custody...

To take any person's custody,

You need a confession

or you need evidence

to take a person's, uh,

police custody.

And I think these things

were concocted just to take my father's custody.

- Let's assume

that Pandher was innocent.

The cops had no idea

how big this case was.

And when they realized

how big it was,

they probably

got overwhelmed.

- So, the confession.

We spoke to the cops,

and they told us he hadn't confessed.

This confession

had no evidentiary value.

The officers presumed

he was guilty

and wrote the confession.

No officer has said that he

confessed in front of him.

Even Pandher denies it.

At that time, the perception

was, "How could he have not known?"

So they made it up

to show his involvement.

That wasn't correct.

- We have

no investigations here.

If there's

a murder committed, cops ask the family,

"Who could have done it?"

They take a person's name.

Even if he isn't involved,

he is made the culprit.

There's a trial against him.

Then the court needs

to decide his verdict.

But no one will collect

evidence here.

It's enough to say

we "feel" he is guilty.

Anyone can rig fake witnesses

Who say they've seen him

commit murder.

That's the basic concept

of this country.

- The question

that arises here is that,

if the cops wrote

that wrong statement,

then the police have done

something wrong.

Assuming the statement

is wrong,

then Pandher could go

to the gallows based on it.

- I will tell you

the most important thing.

Everybody will be shocked

when they hear this.

There are 13 cases.

The CBI has done all the investigations.

Case number one.

On the day

of the murder,

Pandher was in Australia

and not in Noida.

Second case.

Pandher was in Chandigarh.

Third case. Pandher was

over here, over there.

In all 13 cases,

there was an alibi.

- So, they asked us, how do we not...

How do we corroborate the entire thing?

How do we know

whether he was there or not?

So my first answer was,

"Sir, uh,

when you leave the country,

your passport is stamped.

When you enter

another country, your passport is stamped.

Then he used to carry

his cell phone with him.

There are international calls

To him in Canada

on his cell phone.

He is making calls

to his customers in India.

So obviously the outgoing

will also be explained in his bill.

Through the slips they tracked him down,

That he was traveling

from here to here.

He stayed here.

If he stayed in a hotel,

the bills were already

produced on record in the company.

They took up those bills,

they went to the hotel.

They took up evidences from the waiters,

The receptionist, everyone.

They confirmed

whether my father stayed there or not.

- When the incidents happened,

we verified his

mobile phone's locations.

Where he went, his schedule.

We verified everything.

There were some incidents

where he was in Australia,

so we checked his passports

and visas.

Most of the time,

Pandher wasn't in town when the crimes took place.

Most of the time.

- The biggest

thing is that the CBI made a foolish mistake.

They verified

the phone's location, not the man's location.

They can be different.

The phone's location

won't always be the same as the man's.

It's possible that,

at the time of the murders,

he kept his phone

somewhere else.

The CBI has given alibis

for all 13 cases

saying that Pandher was

not here when the crimes were committed.

But no scientific evidence

was used to ascertain the exact dates of the murders.

Only the dates

of the kidnappings.

We know

when the kids vanished.

They could have taken

a girl, but killed her two or three days later.

That's unclear.

- But when the confessions

and the case diary were presented,

the saw was deposited

and his statement was taken and he was cross-examined.

At that point, based on the

evidence, the judge thought that Pandher was guilty.

She felt

Pandher was equally guilty

and summoned him

for a trial.

- My father was summoned under

Section 302, that is murder,

then, uh, read with 120B,

that's conspiracy to murder.

Then, uh, rape,

conspiracy to rape,

abduction.

So, after my father's 313,

he very

blatantly told me, "Listen,

I know I'm going

to get convicted.

And I have

this very bad feeling,

I don't know, like,

I think we are stuck now."

'THE KILLERS OF NITHARI'

- Pandher and his servant Koli

have been found guilty

in the Nithari case.

The special CBI court has

found them guilty in the Rimpa Haldar murder case.

Their sentences

will be announced tomorrow.

'SEARCH FOR MISSING KIDS'

Pandher and Koli are

the Nithari serial killers.

The special CBI court judge,

Rama Jain,

has judged Koli guilty

of murdering and raping 14-year-old Rimpa Haldar,

while Pandher has been found

guilty of conspiracy to murder.

- At that time,

both the accused started crying.

Pandher was really shocked

and fainted.

Pandher's wife and his son

told the media

that they do not trust

the courts anymore.

- They don't want justice,

they only want Pandher.

They just want a scapegoat

who can be hanged.

If this

is what justice is, fine.

But this is an injustice

for us. As family, this is injustice.

We are hurting for it

because as an Indian,

I expect my country to do justice to me.

I expect my judicial system

to do justice to me.

This is wrong!

- When we were held guilty

by the court,

my lawyer came up to me.

That is Devraj.

He was very blunt to me.

He's like, "Listen,

I fear it's going to be

a death penalty.

But they have asked me

to argue what...

What kind of penalty

would you want?"

- I said, "This is India.

If you give us

lifetime imprisonment,

no one will hear our appeal.

Give us the death sentence,

then maybe we can have an appeal in a year or two."

- You are my lawyer,

and you are asking me to,

you know, basically sell my father out,

And ask him to...

Asking me to take

the death penalty against him.

- Only the High Court

can challenge this verdict.

If you give us life,

then the High Court will never listen to us.

Because the High Court has

a huge backlog of appeals.

Lifetime convictions

are still pending today.

It would have been the same

for us, waiting 20 years.

This seemed like a way out.

So by asking for the death

penalty, they might listen to us in a year or two.

- I thought for it

for two to three minutes.

I said, "Listen, I know

it's a very hard decision for me.

Go in for the death penalty.

Let's... Let's see."

- Today,

the decision is that, under Act 302,

Koli has been sentenced to death.

Pandher also gets

the death sentence and a fine of 50,000 rupees.

- I can never forget the day

when the verdict was given.

- I'm very happy

that both have been sentenced to death.

All the poor kids

of this country will be safe.

All kids,

whether rich or poor,

will be safe.

- The lower court

is the greatest court!

The best thing is that

the criminal who was being protected

by the CBI

and not even charged

has now been sentenced

to death by the court.

- It was a great time,

and whenever

I think of it,

I remember it fondly.

It was a very

exhilarating moment.

- And when he heard

that he was going to be

held guilty anyways,

he in fact told me,

"Don't appeal it. It's...

It's just useless."

- He had actually given up hope. He's like,

"You know what?

I've just been branded. Just let it be."

He was like, "It's no use

fighting for my life.

Why don't you actually

break away from everything?

Sell off a few of the things

that you possess.

Start a new life.

Live your life the way,

you know, you want to.

Let these cases be."

- Do you feel the judgment

has been influenced?

- Thanks to the media.

Thank you.

- Will you appeal? - -Of course.

- What is

your father saying?

- He doesn't

want me to appeal. He says, "I want to die."

"I don't want

to live with the shame."

He's told me

not to appeal. But I am going to appeal.

I am.

Thank you.

- And I refused. And I still remember,

I was crying. I was standing with him, I was crying.

I said, it's not

going to happen. As much as you want

to try to explain - things to me, It's not going to happen.

It's the end of the story with me.

I am fighting it. I am fighting it.

I'll not lose heart for it.

I'll not give up on you,

because it's not in me.

I don't give up on things. I don't give up on family,

And especially my father, never ever will I.

- It was ten o'clock

when she vanished.

I'd heard

about other children missing in the area.

I started feeling nervous.

I took some boys to start looking around.

We had some bikes

and started looking for her.

- I ran to the tailor's shop

and asked if my daughter had come by.

He said his machine wasn't

working, so she left.

She had a scarf in her hand.

I went to the cigarette shop

and asked there.

He said he hadn't seen her.

There was a fruit seller.

"You have been sitting here for a while.

Did you see her?"

He said, "No."

Pandher was standing there.

I asked him, "Sir, have you seen my daughter?"

"No," he said. He denied it.

"You've been here

for a while. Did you see her?"

He said,

"No. I haven't seen her."

He had been standing here,

he denied seeing my daughter.

He was right here,

holding onto his gate.

He saw me crying, but still

didn't say a word about where my daughter was.

All this time,

my daughter was kidnapped inside his house.

- Nobody is willing to believe

That Pandher had no idea

what was going on in his house.

No one has given them

answers to their questions.

No one can say exactly

why Pandher wasn't involved,

or why Pandher

isn't a criminal.

- Everything has happened in your house.

How come you don't know?

That is the simple most question people ask.

My question to them

has always been a very standard question.

You are sitting right now

in front of me.

What is happening

in your house? Please explain it.

And they don't have

an answer to it because they can't.

- You wanted to see

the servants' quarters?

Come.

Oh, they're not here right now.

A master and a servant

is actually

a very, uh, white term for

an employer and an employee.

We just retain the colonial

term "Servants",

otherwise they are as good

as our employees these days.

We cannot, uh...

It's not any kind of slavery.

They get their monthly dues.

They, uh, do their work

according to what they are prescribed to do.

And that's about it.

It's...

It's a very clean, uh...

You may say it is an

employer-employee sort of a thing.

And, uh, like,

she is our maid at the house,

as well as, uh,

she is the gardener's wife.

They take care

of the entire garden

as well as she mops inside.

- It was

a normal house.

There was nothing

weird about it.

Most of Koli's activities

were in the upstairs bathroom.

Koli strangled people

downstairs and chopped their bodies in the bathroom.

It was a normal house

downstairs.

The only difference was that

there was no family living there.

Sometimes, Pandher would come and stay.

Otherwise, it was just Koli.

- So, Koli's relation

to the house was very clear.

He used to take care of the house

When my father or we people

were not around there.

So,

in a very simple term,

when we were not there,

he was the master of the house.

Like, they have a unit

to themselves.

Koli had on the first floor,

he had a room to himself.

And he had a washroom attached to it.

He had an independent entry

as well as an entry

from inside the house.

- They think it's us who have done it,

It's my father who's done it.

How much ever we explain it,

how much ever we tried to

simplify things for them,

they just don't want to...

They have...

A story has been, you know,

made in their head, and they are following that.

They are not looking towards the evidence.

I, in fact, sat down with

a single victim's family for once.

I explained them

the evidence, "Listen, this is how it is."

And he didn't pursue a case

against my father.

I was... My father was not

summoned in his son's case.

And that case has reached High Court.

And only Surinder Koli

was convicted in that case.

My father was not made

a party in that case also.

- This is the main thing

that's working against us.

Here you go.

Read this to satisfy yourself.

- Give me that portion as well.

- That's what I was looking for.

-The one about

the washerman's daughter? -Yes.

- Give me a smoke. This is what

you were looking for, the entire discussion.

Everything is discussed here.

- Then, I saw a girl walking.

Her name was Jyoti.

She used to deliver clothes to the house.

Her father was a washerman.

And she had come

a couple of times to take our clothes.

I asked her to come inside

and pick up some clothes for ironing.

She followed me inside.

I asked her where she was coming from.

She said,

"From the tailor's."

I said, "Count the clothes

I give you." She kept her scarf on the side.

I took her scarf

and suffocated her.

She was 10 or 12 years old.

She was unconscious.

I tried to have sex with her body.

I strangled her more

with her own scarf. I kept her in the bathroom.

Then I came downstairs

and picked up a sack.

I put the body in the sack

and kept it in the bathroom until the evening.

That day, Pandher was at home.

But I don't know if he knew

about the body.

"Her name was Jyoti."

- Is there something

about Jyoti? - Yes, here.

"Her name was Jyoti, she was

the washerman's daughter."

- Here it is.

"She was dead.

Pandher was at home that day.

But I'm not sure

if he knew about the body."

- Even we kept

hammering him about this.

This has been going on

for so long.

How can you not know?

Pandher had so much

confidence in Koli.

He was so simple

that no one could think

he could commit

such a heinous crime.

Koli never had any bad habits.

He never smoked,

never went out,

had no visitors.

So how can you doubt

someone so simple?

- Another question is,

Pandher being an educated guy,

even though he was sick,

he was pretty smart.

He would have the means

to move the bodies somewhere else.

Why would he throw them behind the house? No smart person would do that.

Whenever the murders

took place, he says he was not at home.

What does this mean?

If I steal and hide it at

someone else's house,

that person is the thief.

No matter how much he shouts,

"He did this.

He kept it here."

All the remains

are at Pandher's house.

How can Koli be guilty?

Pandher is the guilty one.

What will they do?

Why did my case get the last date?

In my case,

there's only one hearing,

and then they stopped.

It's all the CBI's doing.

I was betrayed

by Sonia Gandhi.

- There are six cases

against them.

Many of the families

got bought off or withdrew.

Still, six cases against

Pandher are still there.

For the Rimpa Haldar case,

both face the death penalty.

And death in Payal's case?

No, not in Payal yet.

No, it hasn't?

Not yet, only one death penalty.

The Pinky Sarkar case is in

court now. They should get death for that as well.

Then there is our Jyoti

and some more pending.

Strong testimony in all.

Both will get death

in those cases.

All this will take some time.

Until then,

we won't let Pandher get out.

This is a long legal process,

but we have to go on.

- In this case,

many people have given and taken payoffs.

People have moved up.

The ones who had huts now have houses.

People who never had

bicycles now have cars.

The weak person

will always come to harm,

no matter where he goes.

♪Your beautiful cheeks...♪

- Oh, my, oh, my.

- What a song!

♪ Your beautiful cheeks

Oranges on your chest♪

- What are you saying?

-Someone told us

that the cops came to Pandher's house

at night

and took some stuff.

So, I had some doubts.

That's when I started

suspecting Pandher,

because everything happened

around his house.

At ten o'clock,

I asked the boys to climb the wall.

And look inside the dump.

And in one plastic bag, we found a head.

A completely decomposed head.

Then I found another head,

and another.

We found three heads.

All decomposing.

Then I started

looking through the garbage again.

And I found a whole sack

with just body parts.

There were these

limbs over here. All these bones and joints.

Hands and limbs

were over there.

PRIME NITHARI CASE SUSPECT

PANDHER RELEASED

THE HIGH COURT GIVES HIM BAIL

- The prime suspect

in the sensational Nithari serial murders, Pandher,

has just received

a big reprieve from the High Court.

The High Court

has let him out on bail in five cases.

CBI CAN APPEAL

AGAINST THE RULING

- There was so much concoction

added by the Indian media

that no one could understand

what this man had done.

Everyone thought

he murdered children.

He first sexually abused them,

then murdered children, then ate them.

Like, all in all,

you were portraying a man to be completely

a complete monster,

to the extent

that it is just not doable.

Like, no person would ever in his darkest dream

Think there is a human being

like this who exists.

I always feared, like,

"What if my father wasn't

there with me ever? What would I do?"

And I think my worst fears

were answered here.

I had to walk

with my head held high. I had to face the world.

I even thought

to the extent,

"What if something

happens to him while he's in custody?

What am I gonna do?"

And the only thing

that came to my head was like,

in Indian Judicial System,

if a person passes away

and the trial

is still underway,

and if it's

a criminal trial, it automatically finishes.

But I would still fight it

for my family's reputation,

for my family's image.

I would still fight it.

I would not give up on it.

- It's the same kind

of battle.

Ravana had ten heads.

Similarly, Pandher thought he had lots of money.

"I can buy the law.

What can these

poor people do?"

Also, Ravana thought,

"Just small people.

I can squish them

whenever I want to."

I'm going to fight Pandher

just the way Rama fought Ravana.

Because he is rich,

and we are poor.

People tell me,

"He is an elephant, and you are an ant."

But Lord Rama was an ant.

And Ravana was very strong.

But time will decide

everything.

In the end, Ravana lost.

I will win.

It'll really happen.

Justice might be delayed,

but it won't be denied.

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