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I KNOW THIS IS NOT
MY FAULT, BUT IN MY HEART,
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I WISH I COULD HAVE DONE
SOMETHING TO STOP IT.
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YOUR WHOLE WORLD
JUST GETS FLIPPED UPSIDE DOWN.
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I MISS HIM.
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I MISS HIM A LOT.
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NOBODY DESERVES TO BE MURDERED.
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NOBODY.
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12/20/89 IN THE TOWN OF SOUTHINGTON...
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HINDSIGHT BEING 20/20,
MAYBE HE'D STILL BE AROUND,
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BUT...
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THERE'S A BOND THAT YOU HOLD
BETWEEN BROTHERS.
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I SAID, "DO YOU KNOW
WHAT THAT IS?"
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HE SAID, "NO. WHAT?"
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I SAID, "THAT'S AN 'I GOTCHA.'"
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OKAY.
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OPEN YOUR EYES!
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IT'S MY FAVORITE FLAVOR, TOO!
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I WORKED AT BETHEL CHURCH
AS A PASTOR.
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BOY. I BETTER GET OVER TO
THE CHURCH FOR MY APPOINTMENT.
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BUT, DAD,
IT'S MY BIRTHDAY.
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CAN'T YOU AT LEAST WALK ME
TO THE BUS STOP?
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THE WEATHER
IN THIS PARTICULAR YEAR,
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THE DECEMBER WAS UNUSUALLY COLD,
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AND WHEN WE WOKE UP ON THE 20th,
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THE TEMPERATURE
WAS ZERO DEGREES.
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BUT WHEN YOUR LITTLE GIRL
SMILES AT YOU
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ON HER BIRTHDAY
AND SAYS, YOU KNOW,
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"PLEASE WALK OUT WITH ME,"
YOU DO IT.
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ONLY SIX MORE DAYS
UNTIL CHRISTMAS.
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FIVE --
IF YOU DON'T COUNT TODAY.
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I REALLY HOPE
I GET A BIKE.
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THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT TO ASK FOR.
DON'T YOU THINK?
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AS WE WENT OUT THE DOOR,
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WE KIND OF
CUT ACROSS OUR DRIVEWAY,
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WENT PAST THE CORNER
OF THE CHURCH.
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DAD.
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SHE HALTED AND KIND OF, LIKE,
WENT INTO A FROZEN POSITION.
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AND THERE SEEMED TO BE
A BODY OR SOMETHING
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LAYING IN A SNOWBANK.
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HONEY, WAIT HERE.
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SIR?
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HEY.
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I SAW THAT THERE WAS
BLOODSTAINED IN HIS GROIN AREA,
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AND THAT ALERTED ME TO SOMETHING
BEING DRASTICALLY WRONG.
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GOD.
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HONEY, COME WITH ME.
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TODAY'S DATE -- 12/20/89, IN THE TOWN OF SOUTHINGTON.
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EXACT ADDRESS IS 594 WEST CENTER STREET EXTENSION.
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THERE HAD BEEN
A DUSTING DURING THE NIGHT,
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AND WHEN WE GOT THERE,
IT WAS VERY COLD.
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SO, WHAT'S THE DEAL?
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YOU GET A NAME?
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DIDN'T HAVE I.D. ON HIM.
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WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON
THAT FOUND HIM? ANY CONNECTION?
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NONE -- SAID HE DIDN'T
RECOGNIZE HIM.
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OKAY.
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WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG
THE BODY WAS THERE
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BECAUSE WHEN
THE TEMPERATURE'S THAT COLD,
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RIGOR MORTIS
WILL KICK IN SOONER.
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AND HE WAS STIFF --
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
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THIS ISN'T WHERE
THE MURDER HAPPENED.
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WHY'D THEY BRING
HIM HERE?
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ANYBODY'S GUESS.
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THERE WAS NO SIGN
OF A STRUGGLE WHATSOEVER.
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IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE VICTIM
HAD BEEN KILLED SOMEWHERE ELSE
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AND JUST DUMPED THERE.
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HE'S GOT SOME BLOOD COMING OUT
NEAR THE LEFT EYEBROW AREA,
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AND I NOTICE THAT THERE'S
A GLOVE ON TOP OF THE BODY.
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AND THE GLOVE IS BLOODSTAINED.
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HEY, YOU SEE THIS?
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TAKE A LOT OF PRESSURE TO MAKE
THOSE LIGATURE MARKS LIKE THAT.
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YOU THINK
HE WAS STRANGLED.
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HEY, WAIT A SECOND.
I THINK I KNOW THIS GUY.
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YEAH?
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WE HAD A DETECTIVE TELLING US
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THAT HE WAS A BOUNCER
AND PART-TIME BARTENDER
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AT BANQUER'S, WHICH WAS
A NICE, CLASSY RESTAURANT,
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AND HIS NAME
WAS ROBBIE SCHMIDT.
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DETECTIVES TRACK DOWN
ROBERT'S EMPLOYER...
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...FOR MORE INFORMATION.
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THE OWNER OF THE BAR
WAS JEFFREY STENNER,
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A CLOSE FRIEND AND MENTOR
TO ROBBIE SCHMIDT.
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SO HE WAS INVITED
TO COME DOWN TO THE MORGUE.
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THANK YOU FOR COMING IN
ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE.
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I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT
POSITION TO BE IN,
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BUT WE NEED SOMEONE
TO IDENTIFY THE BODY.
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COULD YOU HELP US OUT?
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YEAH.
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YEAH, SURE.
W- WHATEVER YOU NEED.
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THE CORONER REMOVES
THE COVERING ON THE BODY
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AND SHOWS THE FACE.
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AND JEFF STENNER LOOKS AT IT,
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AND YOU COULD SEE
HE'S A BIT EMOTIONAL.
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THANK YOU.
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HIS FRIEND HAD BEEN MURDERED.
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HE WANTED TO DO ANYTHING
HE COULD DO
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TO ASSIST
WITH THE INVESTIGATION.
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NOW, YOU SAID YOU --
YOU SAW ROBBIE LAST NIGHT.
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YEAH.
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UM, WE WERE
AT BANQUER'S.
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JEFF STENNER HAD TOLD ME
THAT WHEN ROBBIE LEFT AT 10:00,
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THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET UP
AGAIN LATER ON THAT NIGHT.
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JEFF SAID
ROBBIE NEVER SHOWED UP.
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CAN YOU THINK OF ANYONE
WHO MIGHT WANT HIM DEAD,
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ANYTHING HE WAS
INVOLVED IN?
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NO. NO.
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HE WAS A GOOD KID.
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EVERYBODY LOVED HIM.
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HAVE YOU TOLD
HIS FAMILY YET?
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NO.
THAT'S OUR NEXT STOP.
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HE WAS REALLY CLOSE
WITH HIS SISTER.
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I'VE KNOWN HER
A LONG TIME.
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GOD.
SHE'S GONNA BE...
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WOULD YOU MIND TAKING US
OVER THERE TO TELL HER THE NEWS?
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IT ALWAYS HELPS WHEN
IT'S SOMEONE YOU KNOW.
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YEAH, SURE.
WHATEVER YOU NEED.
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IT'S OPEN!
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I'D BEEN LOOKING
FOR HIM ALL DAY.
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I JUST KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
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JEFF SHOWED UP AT MY HOUSE
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AND TOLD ME THAT HE HAD JUST
WENT DOWN TO I.D. ROBERT'S BODY.
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I'M SO SORRY, LAURA. I...
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TWO DETECTIVES
FROM SOUTHINGTON SHOWED UP
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TO TELL ME THAT IT WAS TRUE.
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AND I PUNCHED THE CABINET --
CORNER OF MY KITCHEN.
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THAT'S THE PERSON HE WAS.
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LOOK AT HIM.
HE'S PLAYING WITH THESE KIDS.
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HE WAS A KIND PERSON.
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HE'S NOT HURTING ANYBODY.
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HE'S PLAYING WITH THESE KIDS.
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FAMILY, KIDS, WIFE --
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ROBERT WANTED TO HAVE JUST,
YOU KNOW,
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THE AMERICAN DREAM,
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE --
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WHITE PICKET FENCE,
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HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS
ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON,
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CHILLING OUT
WITH MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS,
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SEEING MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS,
SPENDING TIME WITH MY DAD.
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I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER
WIDE-EYED 26-YEAR-OLD...
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HOPING FOR THE BEST.
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WHEN YOU'RE INVESTIGATING
SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
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YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE
IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU.
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THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM
WAS YESTERDAY.
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HOW CAN IT BE POSSIBLE?
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IT'S CHRISTMAS.
ROBERT'S GONNA BE THERE.
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WE'RE GONNA GO TO MOM AND DAD'S
AS A FAMILY.
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WE'RE GONNA BE TOGETHER --
THAT SAME, USUAL ROUTINE.
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YOU KNOW...
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IT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS DO.
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HE, UM, LEFT FOR WORK,
LIKE USUAL.
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HIS TRUCK WAS BROKEN DOWN,
SO HE HAD TO TAKE MY CAR.
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HE SAID
HE COULDN'T BRING THE CAR BACK
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BECAUSE HE HAD TO RUN AN ERRAND
AND HE HAD TO GO TO NEW HAVEN.
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AND I SAID, "WHY DO YOU
HAVE TO GO TO NEW HAVEN?"
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AND I BLEW UP AT HIM AND SAID,
"I WANT MY CAR BACK NOW."
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HE NEVER CAME BACK.
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AND I CAN'T FORGIVE MYSELF
FOR YELLING AT HIM.
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SORRY.
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IT'S OKAY.
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I- I KNOW
IT'S VERY HARD.
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DO YOU KNOW WHERE HE WAS GOING
ON THIS ERRAND?
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NO.
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WAS YOUR BROTHER ACTING...
STRANGELY --
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OUT OF THE ORDINARY?
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ACTUALLY, YES.
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LATELY, HE HAD JUST BEEN
ACTING REALLY NERVOUS.
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THEN, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO,
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I WAS CLEANING IN HIS ROOM,
AND I FOUND...
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A GUN.
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I MEAN, HE SEEMED SCARED,
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LIKE SOMEBODY
WAS COMING TO GET HIM.
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I KNEW THAT HE WAS IN TROUBLE
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BECAUSE HE HAD THE GUN
ON HIS BED.
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I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
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ONE MINUTE, WE'RE GETTING READY
TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS TOGETHER,
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AND THE NEXT MINUTE,
WE'RE PLANNING ROBERT'S FUNERAL.
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IT WAS LIKE...
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THE TREES WERE UP,
THE LIGHTS WERE ON,
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BUT NOTHING HAPPENED.
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WHEN LAURA WOKE UP
IN THE MORNING,
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SHE GOT A CALL
FROM JEFFREY STENNER,
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WHO SAID THAT HER CAR
WAS PARKED BEHIND BANQUER'S.
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THIS IS THE CAR
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THAT THE VICTIM HAD BORROWED
FROM HIS SISTER FOR THE NIGHT
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AND HAD BROUGHT IT TO BANQUER'S
RESTAURANT IN NEW BRITAIN.
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I ASKED PERMISSION
TO SEARCH THE CAR
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THAT WAS LEFT
IN THE PARKING LOT.
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SHE GAVE ME THE PERMISSION.
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WE GOT TO BANQUER'S --
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CAR'S UNLOCKED,
KEYS AREN'T IN IT.
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LAURA SAID THAT THAT WAS
VERY, VERY STRANGE
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BECAUSE HER BROTHER
WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
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HE'D NEVER LEAVE IT UNLOCKED.
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I'M GONNA TAKE A LOOK
AT THE TRUNK.
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WE OPEN UP THE TRUNK,
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AND THERE'S CLOTHESLINE ROPE
IN THE TRUNK.
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IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME
DIAMETER OR CIRCUMFERENCE
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AS THE FURROWS IN THE NECK
WHEN BEING STRANGLED,
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SO THIS IS SUSPICIOUS.
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LET'S HAVE ANOTHER LOOK
IN THE CAR.
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AND I'M LOOKING,
AND UNDER THE FRONT SEAT,
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I SEE A PAPER TAG.
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AND I RECOGNIZE THE TAG
AS A BOSS GLOVE TAG,
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WHICH IS THE IDENTICAL
TO THE GLOVE
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THAT'S ON TOP OF THE DEAD BODY.
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YOU KNOW HOW TALL
THE VICTIM WAS?
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COULDN'T BE
LESS THAN 6 FEET.
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NOW, I'M SAYING TO MYSELF,
"HE WAS MURDERED HERE."
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HE WASN'T DRIVING
THIS CAR.
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I WANTED THAT CAR PROCESSED
FOR EVIDENCE.
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THE CONNECTICUT
STATE POLICE MAJOR CRIME SQUAD
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FINDS 13 FINGERPRINTS
IN THE CAR.
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13 PRINTS.
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NOW ALL WE NEED
IS A SUSPECT.
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IN MY DAY,
WHEN THIS HOMICIDE OCCURRED,
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WE DIDN'T AN AUTOMATED
FINGER-IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM,
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AS THEY DO TODAY.
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THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT
THAT THIS ONE FINGERPRINT
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BELONGS TO "A PERSON" IS TO HAVE
THAT "A PERSON" AS A SUSPECT
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AND COMPARE
THEIR PRINTS TO THAT.
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GOT THE AUTOPSY REPORT
BACK ON THE SCHMIDT CASE.
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NO SURPRISE HERE.
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CAUSE OF DEATH --
STRANGULATION.
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THERE'S SOMETHING
VERY UNUSUAL
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ABOUT THOSE
LIGATURE MARKS, THOUGH.
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HOW SO?
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00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:12,624
ALL RIGHT, WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE,
THE LIGATURE MARKS
227
00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:15,527
ARE ONLY SHOWING UP
ON THE FRONT OF THE THROAT --
228
00:13:15,529 --> 00:13:17,629
NONE ON THE BACK.
229
00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:20,098
NORMALLY, IF YOU WERE TO TIGHTEN
A ROPE AROUND SOMEBODY'S NECK,
230
00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:23,768
YOU WOULD EXPECT MARKS
ALL THE WAY AROUND.
231
00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:25,837
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
232
00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:29,207
IT MEANS HE WAS KILLED
IN THE FRONT SEAT.
233
00:13:29,209 --> 00:13:32,310
STRANGLED FROM BEHIND.
234
00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:34,779
HEADREST WOULD HAVE BLOCKED
THE ROPE IN THE BACK.
235
00:13:38,752 --> 00:13:41,619
THAT SOUNDS
PLAUSIBLE TO ME.
236
00:13:41,621 --> 00:13:45,023
SO, WE HAVE ROBBIE SITTING
IN THE PASSENGER SEAT,
237
00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:47,559
KILLER SITTING
BEHIND HIM,
238
00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:50,461
AND SOMEONE ELSE SITTING
IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT.
239
00:13:50,463 --> 00:13:52,363
THANKS.
240
00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:56,100
HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
241
00:13:58,038 --> 00:13:59,904
I SUSPECTED
THAT THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN
242
00:13:59,906 --> 00:14:02,941
AT LEAST TWO PERPETRATORS,
IF NOT MORE, IN THE CAR
243
00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:04,108
TO DO THIS.
244
00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:10,281
EXCUSE ME, SIR.
245
00:14:10,283 --> 00:14:12,584
WE'RE WITH
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
246
00:14:12,586 --> 00:14:13,818
I'M DETECTIVE SAUCIER.
247
00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:16,788
THIS IS MY PARTNER,
DETECTIVE SKINNER.
248
00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:20,658
I FOUND OUT WHO WAS AT
THE BANQUER'S ON THE 19th,
249
00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:23,094
AND I HAD A TON OF NAMES.
250
00:14:23,096 --> 00:14:25,163
ONE OF THEM
WAS A STOCKBROKER.
251
00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:28,800
WE HEARD THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE KNOWN ROBBIE SCHMIDT.
252
00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:32,370
YEAH.
YEAH, I KNEW ROBBIE.
253
00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:34,172
HE WAS A GOOD KID.
254
00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:37,642
HE SAID, "THE AFTERNOON
BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED,
255
00:14:37,644 --> 00:14:40,211
I WAS AT THE BAR
HAVING MY DRINK,
256
00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:42,513
AND I NOTICED THAT HE WAS
IN THE PARKING LOT
257
00:14:42,515 --> 00:14:44,849
WITH JEFF STENNER
AND TWO BODYBUILDERS,
258
00:14:44,851 --> 00:14:47,452
AND THERE WAS A PICKUP TRUCK
ON THE ROAD,
259
00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:50,088
AND THEY PUSHED IT
INTO THE PARKING LOT."
260
00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:51,923
WHO WERE THE OTHER
TWO GUYS?
261
00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,591
I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THEM.
I DON'T KNOW.
262
00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:56,094
BUT THEY WERE BIG GUYS --
KIND OF BODYBUILDER TYPE.
263
00:14:57,797 --> 00:14:59,631
THAT'S --
THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER.
264
00:14:59,633 --> 00:15:03,268
I NEEDED TO FIND OUT
WHO THE TWO BODYBUILDERS WERE.
265
00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:04,535
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
266
00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,437
SURE. YEAH. ANYTIME.
267
00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:10,241
THESE TWO GUYS SAW ROBBIE
THE NIGHT PRIOR TO HIS DEATH,
268
00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,676
SO I WANTED TO KNOW
WHO THEY WERE,
269
00:15:11,678 --> 00:15:13,478
AND I WANTED
TO INTERVIEW THEM.
270
00:15:17,984 --> 00:15:19,751
SO, I STARTED
INTERVIEWING PEOPLE
271
00:15:19,753 --> 00:15:21,619
AT THE GYM IN NEW BRITAIN.
272
00:15:21,621 --> 00:15:25,790
THEY TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS
PROBABLY SCOTT CANCEL
273
00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:27,625
AND JOHN GRZESZCZYK.
274
00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:31,429
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SCOTT CANCEL
AND JOHN GRZESZCZYK.
275
00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,431
LOOKS LIKE YOU CAME
TO THE RIGHT PLACE.
276
00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:34,866
HOW CAN WE HELP YOU?
277
00:15:34,868 --> 00:15:38,236
WE'RE INVESTIGATING
A HOMICIDE.
278
00:15:38,238 --> 00:15:39,370
A HOMICIDE?
279
00:15:41,141 --> 00:15:43,808
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE
TO DO WITH US?
280
00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:45,076
WE'RE NOT SURE.
281
00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:48,379
I ASKED THEM ABOUT
THE NIGHT OF THE 19th.
282
00:15:48,381 --> 00:15:51,149
WE UNDERSTAND YOU WERE AT
BANQUER'S RESTAURANT ON TUESDAY
283
00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:53,051
HELPING SOMEONE
MOVE A TRUCK, RIGHT?
284
00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,353
YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH, THE -- YOU REMEMBER THAT?
285
00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:56,888
YEAH, THE GUY THAT SAID
THAT, -
286
00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:59,057
THAT HIS ENGINE STOPPED WORKING
AND HE NEEDED HELP MOVING IT.
287
00:15:59,059 --> 00:16:01,125
YEAH, THE SNOW -- IT WAS, -
IT WAS COMING DOWN HARD,
288
00:16:01,127 --> 00:16:05,263
SO, WE TRIED TO HELP HIM
MOVE THE TRUCK OFF THE ROAD.
289
00:16:05,265 --> 00:16:07,031
IS THIS THE MAN
THAT YOU HELPED?
290
00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:11,035
YEAH.
THAT'S HIM, ALL RIGHT.
291
00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:17,842
MY PARTNER'S GONNA TAKE YOUR
CONTACT INFO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
292
00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:19,844
THEY WERE THERE
THE DAY OF THE MURDER.
293
00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:21,479
IN AND OF ITSELF,
IT MEANS NOTHING,
294
00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:24,449
BUT IT TIES FOUR PEOPLE
AT ONE LOCATION
295
00:16:24,451 --> 00:16:26,284
AT A PARTICULAR TIME.
296
00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:29,487
SO, I LEAVE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE
ANY FINGERPRINTS ON FILE.
297
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:32,890
GRZESZCZYK HAD NO RECORD AT ALL,
HAD NO FINGERPRINTS ON FILE.
298
00:16:32,892 --> 00:16:34,192
CANCEL DID.
299
00:16:35,729 --> 00:16:39,263
SCOTT CANCEL HAD
A CRIMINAL HISTORY --
300
00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:42,734
DEALT IN DRUGS, DEALT IN
A LOT OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
301
00:16:42,736 --> 00:16:45,703
AND I'M SAYING TO MYSELF,
302
00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:49,640
"IF SOMEONE HIRED SOMEONE
TO DO THIS MURDER,
303
00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:51,676
THIS MIGHT BE THE GUY
THAT THEY WOULD HIRE."
304
00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,081
SO I SUBMITTED CANCEL'S
FINGERPRINTS TO BE COMPARED
305
00:16:57,083 --> 00:16:59,650
WITH THE 13 FINGERPRINTS
I GOT OFF THE CAR.
306
00:16:59,652 --> 00:17:01,986
BUT THE FINGERPRINTS
WEREN'T HIS.
307
00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:05,490
AND THAT REACHED A DEAD END
AT THAT TIME.
308
00:17:08,461 --> 00:17:11,629
ONE WEEK AFTER
ROBERT SCHMIDT'S MURDER,
309
00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:15,266
HIS FAMILY HOLDS HIS FUNERAL.
310
00:17:15,268 --> 00:17:18,469
MY FATHER...
311
00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:21,105
I WATCHED MY FATHER CRUMBLE.
312
00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:27,812
I WATCHED HIM AT THE WEAKEST
MOMENT IN HIS LIFE.
313
00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:35,987
NO PARENT SHOULD OUTLIVE
THEIR CHILD.
314
00:17:35,989 --> 00:17:37,455
NOT FOR THAT.
315
00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:41,259
IT'S NOT FAIR.
316
00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:44,562
DISEASE -- ONE THING.
317
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:46,264
MURDER -- NO.
318
00:17:49,436 --> 00:17:51,402
THANK YOU FOR COMING,
DETECTIVE.
319
00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,471
IT MEANS A LOT.
YEAH.
320
00:17:53,473 --> 00:17:55,139
LISTEN...
321
00:17:55,141 --> 00:17:57,775
I KNOW IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT
TIME FOR YOU BOTH.
322
00:17:57,777 --> 00:18:01,212
I WENT TO THE FUNERAL PARLOR
WHEN THEY WERE HAVING THE WAKE.
323
00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:04,348
I PAY MY RESPECTS TO THE FAMILY,
AND I'M WATCHING PEOPLE.
324
00:18:04,350 --> 00:18:06,117
I SEE JEFF STENNER COME IN,
325
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,454
AND HE COMES IN
WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND.
326
00:18:09,456 --> 00:18:11,989
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
327
00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:15,359
I SEE JEFF WHISPER SOMETHING
TO THE GIRLFRIEND,
328
00:18:15,361 --> 00:18:17,328
AND SHE LOOKS DIRECTLY AT ME.
329
00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:23,668
AND SHE, LIKE, ALMOST PANICS.
330
00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:26,971
AND NOW SHE CAN'T LOOK AT ME.
331
00:18:26,973 --> 00:18:29,674
AN INNOCENT PERSON
WHO HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG
332
00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,877
DOESN'T ACT LIKE THAT
WHEN THEY SEE A POLICE OFFICER.
333
00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:35,012
I SAID TO MYSELF,
"SHE'S PART OF THIS."
334
00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:37,048
I SAID, "SHE'S PART
OF THIS INVESTIGATION."
335
00:18:51,264 --> 00:18:56,467
THAT'S MY OLDEST BROTHER,
RODNEY, IN THE MIDDLE THERE,
336
00:18:56,469 --> 00:19:00,938
WEARING HIS...
MILITARY DRESS BLUES.
337
00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:07,345
SO, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR HIM
TO FLY IN
338
00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:10,848
IN ORDER TO HAVE THE FUNERAL.
339
00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:11,916
SO...
340
00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:18,022
MIGHT BE THE HARDEST PICTURE
I EVER HAD TO LOOK AT.
341
00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:23,861
I CAN SEE THE DESPAIR
IN MY FATHER'S FACE.
342
00:19:29,068 --> 00:19:30,768
I DIDN'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN.
343
00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:35,306
NOT EASY TO LOOK AT.
344
00:19:38,912 --> 00:19:41,646
SOUTHINGTON POLICE
STILL HAVE NO LEADS
345
00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:44,148
IN THE MURDER OF ROBERT SCHMIDT.
346
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:47,451
BUT HIS BROTHER JAY
HAS BEEN KEEPING A SECRET.
347
00:19:47,453 --> 00:19:49,820
YOU CANNOT TELL ANYONE.
348
00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,622
OKAY. I PROMISE.
349
00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,024
THE LAST NIGHT I SAW HIM,
350
00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:55,793
MY BROTHER ROBERT
HAD CONFIDED IN ME
351
00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:58,663
THAT HE HAD ROBBED
A ARMORED CAR.
352
00:19:58,665 --> 00:19:59,864
WHAT THE HELL
WERE YOU THINKING?!
353
00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:02,667
CLEARLY,
I WASN'T THINKING.
354
00:20:02,669 --> 00:20:04,769
BUT NOW I MADE A MISTAKE,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
355
00:20:10,677 --> 00:20:11,776
WE HAVE TO TELL DAD.
356
00:20:11,778 --> 00:20:13,044
MNH-MNH. NO.
357
00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:14,478
YOU MADE A PROMISE, JAY.
ALL RIGHT?
358
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,014
WE ARE NOT TELLING ANYONE
ABOUT THIS.
359
00:20:17,016 --> 00:20:19,917
I JUST -- I NEED
TO FIGURE THIS OUT, OKAY?
360
00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:25,723
HINDSIGHT BEING 20/20,
MAYBE IF WE TOLD OUR DAD,
361
00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:28,292
YOU KNOW,
MAYBE HE'D STILL BE AROUND.
362
00:20:28,294 --> 00:20:31,128
BUT...
363
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:33,598
THERE'S A BOND THAT YOU HOLD
BETWEEN BROTHERS.
364
00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:42,073
NOT LONG AFTER THE MURDER,
365
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:45,543
I WAS VISITED
BY ROBBIE SCHMIDT'S FAMILY.
366
00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:51,349
HEY, GUYS.
367
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:54,218
I UNDERSTAND
YOU WANTED TO TALK?
368
00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:56,621
FOLLOW ME.
369
00:21:00,526 --> 00:21:02,593
WE HADN'T TOLD OUR DAD YET
370
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,729
UNTIL AFTER WE GOT
TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
371
00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:06,631
WHAT'S GOING ON?
372
00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,933
LISTEN, I...
373
00:21:10,069 --> 00:21:14,105
I THINK
I MAY KNOW WHY...
374
00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,606
ROBBIE WAS KILLED.
375
00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,376
REALLY?
376
00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:24,181
ROBBIE TOLD ME THAT...
HE WAS INVOLVED
377
00:21:24,183 --> 00:21:26,951
IN A, UM...
378
00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,386
ROBBERY SCHEME.
379
00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:30,788
R- ROBBERY?
380
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:34,659
TO WATCH THE SHOCK
ON HIS FACE...
381
00:21:34,661 --> 00:21:36,294
KIND OF HURTS.
382
00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:38,329
UM...
383
00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:41,766
BRINGS OUT SOME FEELINGS
THAT YOU'D RATHER NOT.
384
00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:47,038
DID HE MENTION WHO ELSE
WAS INVOLVED?
385
00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:53,744
JEFFREY STENNER.
386
00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:56,847
I DON'T KNOW IF
DETECTIVE SAUCIER AT THE TIME
387
00:21:56,849 --> 00:22:01,352
KNEW EXACTLY WHAT JEFF
AND ROBERT WERE INVOLVED IN,
388
00:22:01,354 --> 00:22:03,321
BUT I THINK HE HAD
A PRETTY CLEAR PICTURE
389
00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:06,724
SHORTLY AFTER WE GOT
INTO THE POLICE STATION.
390
00:22:06,726 --> 00:22:08,192
STENNER?
391
00:22:08,194 --> 00:22:10,494
THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
392
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:14,098
THAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN
THAT WOULD HAVE DONE THIS --
393
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,666
IN SOME WAY.
394
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,501
JAY.
395
00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:20,037
I NEED YOU TO COME WITH ME
TO SIT FOR A FURTHER STATEMENT.
396
00:22:25,712 --> 00:22:28,112
I STARTED WORKING
WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
397
00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:33,184
THE FBI CONFIRMED THAT
ARMORED CAR ROBBERIES DID OCCUR.
398
00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:34,618
I SAID, "REALLY?"
399
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,687
JEFF STENNER -- THIS WAS A GUY
THAT THE VICTIM THOUGHT
400
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:39,090
WAS HIS BEST FRIEND
AND A MENTOR.
401
00:22:39,092 --> 00:22:41,659
THAT CHANGED MY WHOLE
PERSPECTIVE OF HIM.
402
00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:44,528
IT'S ALL IN THERE.
403
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:47,131
WE'VE HAD OUR EYES
ON HIM FOR A WHILE.
404
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:49,100
ROBERT LOOKED UP
TO JEFF A LOT.
405
00:22:49,102 --> 00:22:50,901
I THINK HE WAS LOOKING
FOR SOMETHING
406
00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:55,406
THAT HE COULDN'T FIND AT HOME
OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
407
00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:59,110
ROBERT CARED A LOT ABOUT HIM --
WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR HIM.
408
00:22:59,112 --> 00:23:00,444
SO, HOW'D THEY DO IT?
409
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,213
WE DON'T KNOW
FOR SURE.
410
00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:05,349
WE THINK STENNER'S THE BRAINS
BEHIND THE OPERATION.
411
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:08,219
AND SCHMIDT -- HE WAS WORKING
ON THE TRUCK WHEN IT GOT HIT.
412
00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:11,989
THAT WAS AN EASY ONE --
IN AND OUT.
413
00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,658
OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
414
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,794
- AN ARMORED BANK VEHICLE- WAS HELD UP AT GUNPOINT...
415
00:23:16,796 --> 00:23:21,899
1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 7, 8, 9...AND 10.
416
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,000
MARKING IT DOWN.
417
00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:24,201
WHAT DOES THAT
PUT US AT SO FAR?
418
00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:26,270
THAT PUTS US AT...
419
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,306
...SO FAR?
420
00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,041
$900,000.
421
00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:33,344
OUR THEORY INITIALLY
WAS THAT JEFFREY ORGANIZED THESE
422
00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:37,448
BECAUSE BANQUER'S WAS
IN TROUBLE FINANCIALLY.
423
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:38,582
KEEP COUNTING IT.
I WILL. I WILL.
424
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:39,784
MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
425
00:23:39,786 --> 00:23:42,987
ROBERT SCHMIDT
HAD WORKED AS A GUARD
426
00:23:42,989 --> 00:23:47,591
ON AN ARMORED CAR
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS,
427
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:49,794
SO HE TALKS TO HIM,
SAYS, "HEY, WHAT DO YOU SAY?
428
00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:52,329
WE KNOCK OFF THE ARMORED CAR.
WE GET THE MONEY."
429
00:23:52,331 --> 00:23:53,731
WRITE IT DOWN.
WRITE IT DOWN.
430
00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:55,132
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA
DO WITH ALL THIS MONEY.
431
00:23:55,134 --> 00:23:56,934
I DON'T KNOW, EITHER,
BUT WE GOT ALL OF IT HERE.
432
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,703
ABOUT A YEAR AGO,
RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,
433
00:23:59,705 --> 00:24:01,739
ANOTHER TRUCK GETS HIT.
434
00:24:01,741 --> 00:24:03,908
YEAH, THE GUARDS ARE BRINGING
THE MONEY OUT OF THE BANK.
435
00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:06,977
OUT OF NOWHERE, A GUY SHOWS UP,
PUTS A GUN IN THEIR FACE.
436
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:09,013
THAT WAS STENNER.
437
00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:10,815
WELL, THE CRAZY THING
ABOUT THAT IS,
438
00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:12,316
NOBODY GOT
A LOOK AT HIS FACE.
439
00:24:12,318 --> 00:24:15,753
HE WAS WEARING A SANTA OUTFIT --
BEARD AND EVERYTHING.
440
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:17,755
3/4 OF A MILLION ON THAT.
441
00:24:17,757 --> 00:24:21,625
THE ARMORED CAR WAS HELD UP
ON DECEMBER 20, 1988--
442
00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:25,029
A YEAR TO THE DAY
PRIOR TO ROBBIE'S DEATH.
443
00:24:32,405 --> 00:24:33,771
YOU KNOW WHAT?
444
00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:35,473
IT'S TIME TO CELEBRATE.
445
00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:41,045
CAN YOU PROVE
ALL OF THIS?
446
00:24:41,047 --> 00:24:42,213
NOT YET.
447
00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:45,349
MERRY CHRISTMAS.
448
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:48,953
AND THE NEXT ONE
IS GONNA BE EVEN BIGGER.
449
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:50,621
THE NEXT ONE?
450
00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:52,723
YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO WEASEL OUT
OF THIS, ARE YOU, ROBBIE?
451
00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,292
LOOK, NO, BUT --
452
00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:57,862
BECAUSE LET ME EXPLAIN
SOMETHING TO YOU.
453
00:24:57,864 --> 00:25:00,264
WE'VE GOT A GOOD THING
GOING HERE.
454
00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:02,800
AND WITHOUT YOU,
IT DOESN'T WORK.
455
00:25:04,103 --> 00:25:07,905
SO JUST KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN
AND TRY NOT TO MESS IT UP.
456
00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:08,739
OKAY?
457
00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:11,141
YEAH. YEAH, YEAH.
458
00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:14,512
I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU WOULD CALL IT
459
00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:16,814
"FORCED INTO LABOR"
OR WHATEVER,
460
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:20,384
BUT ROBERT PRETTY MUCH
WAS AT JEFF'S BECK AND CALL
461
00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:23,320
UP UNTIL A CERTAIN POINT,
462
00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:26,524
WHERE HE STARTED TO FEEL
UNSAFE AND NERVOUS
463
00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:29,026
AND SCARED, WORRIED.
464
00:25:35,801 --> 00:25:39,003
I SUSPECTED THAT STENNER
WAS GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS
465
00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:44,108
THAT ROBBIE MIGHT TALK TO
THE FEDS ABOUT THE ROBBERIES.
466
00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:51,382
THEIR ROBBERIES, I BELIEVE,
WERE THE MOTIVE.
467
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,350
I KNEW JEFF WAS INVOLVED
AND I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH,
468
00:25:53,352 --> 00:25:56,987
SO YOU GOT TO SQUEEZE --
LACK OF OTHER WORDS --
469
00:25:56,989 --> 00:25:58,989
PEOPLE THAT ARE CONNECTED
TO THEM,
470
00:25:58,991 --> 00:26:02,560
HOPING TO FIND OUT THAT SOMEONE
ENDS UP SAYING SOMETHING.
471
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:08,299
JEFFREY HAD A GIRLFRIEND WHO HE
MADE MANAGER OF BANQUER'S.
472
00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:09,600
AT THE FUNERAL,
473
00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:13,404
HER DEMEANOR REALLY KIND OF
STUCK RIGHT OUT AT ME.
474
00:26:13,406 --> 00:26:15,506
SHE WAS EXTREMELY NERVOUS.
475
00:26:15,508 --> 00:26:17,741
AT NO TIME WOULD SHE MAKE
EYE CONTACT WITH ME.
476
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:19,209
THERE'S DEFINITELY A MENTAL NOTE
477
00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:20,945
THAT "WHY IS SHE SO NERVOUS
ABOUT THIS?
478
00:26:20,947 --> 00:26:22,780
SHE KNOWS SOMETHING
THAT I DON'T."
479
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:29,286
DETECTIVES DECIDE TO BRING IN
JEFFREY STENNER'S GIRLFRIEND
480
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:30,421
FOR AN INTERVIEW.
481
00:26:32,491 --> 00:26:35,225
THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER,
THE GIRLFRIEND TOLD ME
482
00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:37,861
THAT SHE GOT HOME AT 10:00,
WENT TO BED,
483
00:26:37,863 --> 00:26:43,133
AND JEFF CAME IN TO BED
AROUND 12:45, 1:00.
484
00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:46,203
JEFF WAS AT BANQUER'S
ALL NIGHT.
485
00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:48,672
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT
THE ARMORED CAR ROBBERIES?
486
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:52,276
I NEED TO TALK
TO MY LAWYER.
487
00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:56,213
MAYBE SHE'S TELLING THE TRUTH.
MAYBE SHE ISN'T.
488
00:26:56,215 --> 00:26:58,515
AND SHE LAWYERED UP ON ME
AFTER A WHILE.
489
00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:01,051
STENNER REFUSED
TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH,
490
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:03,120
AND HE LAWYERED UP ON ME ALSO.
491
00:27:06,826 --> 00:27:08,626
CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
492
00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:11,128
THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS --
CIRCUMSTANTIAL.
493
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:14,798
CIRCUMSTANTIAL IS NOT ENOUGH
TO MAKE A CASE ON.
494
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,501
YOU NEEDED HARD EVIDENCE
TO CONNECT HIM --
495
00:27:17,503 --> 00:27:19,136
TO CONNECT STENNER
TO THIS CASE --
496
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:20,938
AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT
AT THAT TIME.
497
00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:38,222
FREEZE!
HANDS UP!
498
00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:40,357
HANDS UP! HANDS UP!
JUST GET 'EM UP!
499
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,358
WHAT IS THIS?
500
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,093
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
501
00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:44,461
GET DRESSED.
502
00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:45,896
THE EVIDENCE WAS SUFFICIENT
503
00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:49,933
FOR THEM TO ARREST JEFF STENNER
FOR THE ROBBERY,
504
00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:52,102
BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH
FOR THE MURDER.
505
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,306
IN HIS YEARBOOK --
A HIGH SCHOOL YEARBOOK --
506
00:27:56,308 --> 00:27:59,643
HIS AMBITION IN THE FUTURE
WAS TO COMMIT THE PERFECT CRIME.
507
00:28:01,814 --> 00:28:04,581
"TO COMMIT THE PERFECT CRIME."
508
00:28:04,583 --> 00:28:06,083
THAT WAS HIS AMBITION.
509
00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:09,353
I VIEW HIM AS BEING SOCIOPATHIC.
I REALLY DO.
510
00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:11,255
I DON'T THINK HE HAS
A CONSCIENCE.
511
00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:13,323
I DON'T THINK HE HAS GUILT
ABOUT ANYTHING.
512
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:17,394
WE GOT HIM FOR
THE ARMORED CAR ROBBERY,
513
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:19,763
SO HE COPPED A PLEA, HOPING THAT
HE WAS GONNA GET FIVE YEARS.
514
00:28:19,765 --> 00:28:23,367
HE GOT 10, WHICH KIND OF KNOCKED
THE WIND OUT OF HIM.
515
00:28:23,369 --> 00:28:26,336
NO ONE WAS EVER ABLE
TO REALLY FIGURE OUT
516
00:28:26,338 --> 00:28:29,173
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE MONEY
FROM THE ARMORED CARS.
517
00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,775
CERTAINLY, AFTER THE ARMORED CAR
ROBBERIES WERE COMMITTED,
518
00:28:31,777 --> 00:28:33,310
JEFFREY'S GIRLFRIEND
SAW THE MONEY,
519
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:34,945
AND SHE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
520
00:28:34,947 --> 00:28:37,347
AND SHE SERVED A YEAR IN PRISON.
521
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:39,650
IT WAS BITTERSWEET
FOR THE FAMILY TO KNOW
522
00:28:39,652 --> 00:28:41,218
THAT HE DID GET ARRESTED
FOR SOMETHING,
523
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,655
BUT IT'S, -
IT'S KIND OF EMPTY.
524
00:28:44,657 --> 00:28:47,658
- I NEVER THOUGHT THEY'D SOLVE IT.
- I FIGURED IT WAS COLD.
525
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:49,393
NOBODY WAS LOOKING
BECAUSE THEY ALL THOUGHT
526
00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,662
HE WAS INVOLVED
IN THE ROBBERIES.
527
00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:54,965
I FIGURED IT WAS DONE WITH --
YOU KNOW, NOBODY CARED.
528
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,706
IT JUST WAS EXASPERATING
IF HE DIDN'T GO TO JAIL
529
00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,341
FOR THE RIGHT THINGS RIGHT NOW.
530
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:07,177
HE NEEDED TO GO TO JAIL
FOR KILLING ROBERT.
531
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:11,749
- I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED --
- VERY FRUSTRATING.
532
00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:14,551
I FELT THAT AT THAT TIME,
533
00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:17,755
THE CASE WAS PROBABLY
AT A DEAD END.
534
00:29:17,757 --> 00:29:21,625
BUT THERE'S ONE THING
THAT MADE THINGS OKAY.
535
00:29:21,627 --> 00:29:23,627
THERE'S NO STATUTE
OF LIMITATIONS ON MURDER.
536
00:29:36,876 --> 00:29:38,542
I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN KARMA,
537
00:29:38,544 --> 00:29:44,014
AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY
YOUR PENANCE IN THE END.
538
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:47,951
SO, IN SOME WAY, SOMEHOW, THAT
INFORMATION IS GOING TO LEAK OUT
539
00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:50,387
AND COME TO THE SURFACE
EVENTUALLY.
540
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:53,157
AND I DON'T CARE
IF IT WAS 50 YEARS.
541
00:29:56,295 --> 00:30:00,063
I JUST FIGURED ONCE THEY SETTLED
THIS ARMORED CAR ROBBERY,
542
00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:01,598
THEY'RE NOT GONNA KEEP GOING,
543
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,336
AND THAT KIND OF...
TICKED ME OFF.
544
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:14,478
I WANTED THEM
TO GET JUSTICE FOR ROBERT,
545
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,015
JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON
WHO'S BEEN TAKEN TOO EARLY.
546
00:30:20,419 --> 00:30:23,153
IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS
SINCE JEFFREY STENNER'S ARREST
547
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:25,689
FOR ARMED ROBBERY.
548
00:30:25,691 --> 00:30:28,492
HE IS SET TO BE RELEASED
FROM PRISON SOON,
549
00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:30,694
AND STILL,
NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED
550
00:30:30,696 --> 00:30:32,396
WITH ROBERT SCHMIDT'S MURDER.
551
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:42,439
AS THE YEARS STARTED GOING BY,
552
00:30:42,441 --> 00:30:45,409
IT GOES ON THE BACK BURNER
BECAUSE YOU'RE AT A DEAD END.
553
00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:48,178
BUT IT'S NOT FORGOTTEN.
IT'S NEVER FORGOTTEN.
554
00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,350
WHAT'S THAT?
555
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,319
THE ROBBIE SCHMIDT CASE.
556
00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:59,122
IT'S BEEN BUGGING ME.
557
00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:03,527
AT A MINIMUM, $800,000 IS STILL
MISSING FROM THE ARMORED CARS.
558
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:05,562
LET ME SEE THAT.
559
00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:10,200
AT THE TIME, WE REALLY WEREN'T
THAT INTERESTED
560
00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:11,835
IN WHAT HAD HAPPENED
TO THE MONEY.
561
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:14,705
WE WERE INTERESTED
IN SOLVING THE MURDER.
562
00:31:20,312 --> 00:31:22,980
WE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT
FOR JEFFREY TO GET RELEASED.
563
00:31:22,982 --> 00:31:25,916
IF HE DID GET RELEASED, WE KNEW
THAT THAT MUCH MONEY,
564
00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:28,819
HE COULD DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR
AND WE WOULD NEVER FIND HIM.
565
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:32,689
WE WERE HITTING DEAD ENDS.
566
00:31:43,502 --> 00:31:46,837
WHAT IF HE WASN'T
IN THE CAR?
567
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:47,971
WHAT?
568
00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:51,642
WE FOUND THE CAR
BEHIND BANQUER'S RESTAURANT.
569
00:31:51,644 --> 00:31:53,443
WHY WOULD STENNER
LEAVE IT THERE?
570
00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,445
HE'S TOO SMART
FOR THAT.
571
00:31:55,447 --> 00:31:57,180
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
572
00:31:59,218 --> 00:32:02,920
STENNER WASN'T IN THE CAR --
HIRED SOMEONE TO DO IT FOR HIM.
573
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:07,991
LET'S RUN THESE PRINTS
AGAIN.
574
00:32:07,993 --> 00:32:09,192
YEAH.
MAYBE WE'LL GET LUCKY.
575
00:32:09,194 --> 00:32:10,294
YEAH.
576
00:32:10,296 --> 00:32:11,428
MARSHA?
577
00:32:12,998 --> 00:32:14,564
CAN YOU TAKE THESE DOWN
TO THE LAB?
578
00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,266
TELL THEM TO RUN THEM
RIGHT AWAY.
579
00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:24,174
WE HAD NO IDEA AT THAT TIME
WHO THAT COULD BE.
580
00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:28,011
AND THEN THE PHONE RINGS.
581
00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:32,516
SKINNER.
582
00:32:32,518 --> 00:32:34,384
AND IT'S THE FORENSIC
FINGERPRINT EXAMINER,
583
00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:38,322
WHO SAYS, "I GOT A HIT
ON THE LATENT PRINT
584
00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:41,591
ON THE REARVIEW MIRROR
OF THE CAR."
585
00:32:41,593 --> 00:32:43,360
JOHN GRZESZCZYK.
586
00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:50,634
THANKS.
587
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,771
JOHN GRZESZCZYK.
588
00:32:54,773 --> 00:32:56,373
FROM THE GYM
IN NEW BRITAIN.
589
00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:59,710
GRZESZCZYK WAS WITH SCHMIDT
THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER,
590
00:32:59,712 --> 00:33:01,078
PUSHING THE PICKUP TRUCK.
591
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,479
THAT WAS THE CONNECTION.
592
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:05,816
GRZESZCZYK
HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED ONCE,
593
00:33:05,818 --> 00:33:10,320
ALONG WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL
BY THE NAME OF SCOTT CANCEL.
594
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:12,656
WHY DIDN'T THIS TURN UP THE
FIRST TIME WE RAN HIS PRINTS?
595
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:15,959
WE DIDN'T HAVE
HIS PRINTS ON FILE.
596
00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,127
NOW WE DO.
597
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:19,363
THE OWNER OF THE FINGERPRINT,
JOHN GRZESZCZYK,
598
00:33:19,365 --> 00:33:22,799
HAD NEVER BEEN ARRESTED AND
HAD NEVER BEEN FINGERPRINTED.
599
00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,634
AFTER THE MURDER,
JOHN GRZESZCZYK APPLIED
600
00:33:24,636 --> 00:33:26,169
FOR A PISTOL PERMIT
601
00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:28,372
AND, AS SUCH,
HAD TO HAVE BEEN FINGERPRINTED.
602
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:40,317
THANKS FOR COMING IN,
JOHN.
603
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,085
OF COURSE.
604
00:33:42,087 --> 00:33:44,388
I'M A LITTLE, UNCLEAR
AS TO WHY I'M HERE, THOUGH.
605
00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:45,422
RIGHT.
606
00:33:45,424 --> 00:33:47,257
HE HAD A DECENT JOB
AT THE TIME.
607
00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:49,593
HE HAD A COUPLE CHILDREN.
HE WAS RECENTLY DIVORCED.
608
00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:51,828
HE WAS LIVING WITH HIS PARENTS.
609
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:54,164
WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH
ANY PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION
610
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:57,067
WHY HIS FINGERPRINT
WOULD BE IN THIS CAR.
611
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:00,470
WELL, WE WANTED
TO CHAT WITH YOU
612
00:34:00,472 --> 00:34:02,572
ABOUT AN OLD CASE
WE'RE BREAKING BACK INTO.
613
00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,241
SURE.
614
00:34:04,243 --> 00:34:05,642
WHAT ABOUT?
615
00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:07,210
ROBBIE SCHMIDT.
616
00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:10,047
YOU REMEMBER HIM?
617
00:34:10,049 --> 00:34:11,715
WE SPOKE WITH YOU
A WHILE BACK
618
00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:15,352
WITH YOUR FRIEND
SCOTT CANCEL.
619
00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:17,154
YOU DID?
620
00:34:17,156 --> 00:34:19,756
WHAT --
YOU DON'T REMEMBER?
621
00:34:19,758 --> 00:34:21,124
SURE DON'T.
622
00:34:21,126 --> 00:34:24,494
IF YOU HAVE NEVER HAD ANYTHING
TO DO WITH A HOMICIDE
623
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,096
AND YOU'RE INTERVIEWED
ABOUT IT,
624
00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:27,864
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE
EVER GONNA FORGET
625
00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:30,600
THAT YOU WERE
INTERVIEWED ABOUT IT.
626
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:32,369
WELL...
627
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,938
I THINK I GOT SOMETHING
THAT'LL JOG YOUR MEMORY.
628
00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,146
LOOK FAMILIAR?
629
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:46,950
LIKE I SAID, NO.
630
00:34:46,952 --> 00:34:48,852
TAKE A CLOSE LOOK.
631
00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:51,788
DIDN'T MAKE ANY REMARKS
ABOUT "HE LOOKS DEAD"
632
00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:53,356
OR "WHY IS HE LYING
IN A SNOWBANK?"
633
00:34:53,358 --> 00:34:55,058
JUST DENIED
ANY KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
634
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:58,295
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, HOW ABOUT THIS?
635
00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:03,433
YOU EVER SEEN
THAT CAR?
636
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:06,837
WE THEN SHOWED HIM
A PICTURE OF THE CAR.
637
00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:10,907
NO.
WHAT WAS THAT?
638
00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:13,043
I SAID NO.
639
00:35:13,045 --> 00:35:17,714
YOU SEE, I FIND THAT
REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE, JOHN.
640
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:18,815
WHAT IS THIS?
641
00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:21,685
THOSE ARE
YOUR FINGERPRINTS, JOHN.
642
00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:24,855
AND THEY HAPPEN TO MATCH
A SET OF PRINTS WE FOUND
643
00:35:24,857 --> 00:35:27,324
INSIDE
ROBBIE SCHMIDT'S CAR.
644
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,793
VERY QUICKLY, HE SAID,
"THAT MUST BE A MISTAKE."
645
00:35:29,795 --> 00:35:31,595
SO I SAID, "WELL, JOHN,
THEN EXPLAIN TO ME
646
00:35:31,597 --> 00:35:34,097
WHY YOUR FINGERPRINT
IS ON THE REARVIEW MIRROR."
647
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,304
AND I WENT LIKE THAT
WITH MY FINGER, AND I SAID,
648
00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:43,907
"JOHN, DO YOU KNOW
WHAT THAT IS?"
649
00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,008
HE SAID, "NO, WHAT?"
650
00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47,077
I SAID, "THAT'S AN 'I GOTCHA.'"
651
00:35:50,082 --> 00:35:52,115
AND HE PUT HIS HEAD DOWN,
AND HE STARTED TO TREMBLE.
652
00:36:05,898 --> 00:36:08,365
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY
I CAN HELP YOU, JOHN.
653
00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:10,834
YOU GOT TO TALK.
654
00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:16,173
I'M SCARED.
655
00:36:16,175 --> 00:36:18,542
OKAY?
I'M SCARED OF SCOTT, MAN.
656
00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:20,610
HE'S -- HE'S CRAZY.
657
00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:25,248
ALL RIGHT, M-- ...
658
00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:29,286
BASICALLY,
IT...
659
00:36:29,288 --> 00:36:31,421
HE TOLD US THAT ONE DAY,
660
00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:35,358
SCOTT CANCEL SAID TO HIM
AND GILBERTO DELGADO,
661
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,928
"JEFFREY STENNER HAS A GUY
WORKING FOR HIM
662
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:40,630
THAT'S OUT OF LINE, AND HE NEEDS
TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON."
663
00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,699
THIS IS GILBERTO.
664
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,367
GILBERTO -- JOHN.
665
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:46,369
NOW, I CALLED HIM OVER HERE
'CAUSE I GOT A JOB
666
00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:48,037
FOR THE TWO OF YOU
TO DO, OKAY?
667
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,172
IF YOU DO IT WELL,
668
00:36:49,174 --> 00:36:51,508
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MONEY
AT THE END OF IT.
669
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:53,176
AND HE TOLD THEM HE WANTED
THEM TO KILL HIM --
670
00:36:53,178 --> 00:36:54,978
TO SHUT MR. SCHMIDT UP
671
00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:58,248
SO JEFFREY WOULDN'T GO TO PRISON
FOR THE ARMORED CARS.
672
00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:59,282
CHEERS.
673
00:37:01,253 --> 00:37:02,852
GRZESZCZYK TOLD US
THAT THAT NIGHT,
674
00:37:02,854 --> 00:37:06,523
THEY HAD GONE TO BANQUER'S,
AND THEY MET STENNER THERE,
675
00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:08,925
AND HE POINTED OUT
SCHMIDT TO THEM.
676
00:37:08,927 --> 00:37:10,727
AND STENNER TOLD SCHMIDT
THAT HE HAD SOMETHING
677
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:13,997
HE NEEDED THEM TO DO
IN NEW HAVEN.
678
00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:16,666
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL
DOING THIS FOR ME.
679
00:37:16,668 --> 00:37:18,602
ROBBIE'S GONNA TAKE YOU
ALL TO NEW HAVEN.
680
00:37:18,604 --> 00:37:22,005
I'LL COVER GAS, EXPENSES --
WHATEVER YOU NEED.
681
00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:23,206
SOUNDS GOOD.
682
00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:24,874
I'LL HANG BACK
WITH YOU, YEAH?
683
00:37:24,876 --> 00:37:26,977
YEAH, SURE.
684
00:37:26,979 --> 00:37:28,678
HEY,
YOU MIND IF I DRIVE?
685
00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:34,351
YEAH.
686
00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:35,785
GET IN.
687
00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:39,222
HE SAID THEY REALLY HAD
NO DEFINITE DIRECTION IN MIND,
688
00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,992
BUT HE DROVE THROUGH NEW BRITAIN
OUT TOWARDS SOUTHINGTON.
689
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:54,571
AND AS THEY DROVE OUT
NEAR THE RESERVOIR,
690
00:37:54,573 --> 00:37:56,439
DELGADO PUT THE LIGATURE
AROUND HIS NECK
691
00:37:56,441 --> 00:37:57,841
AND STARTED TO STRANGLE HIM.
692
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,914
HE STOPPED STRUGGLING.
693
00:38:04,916 --> 00:38:06,349
HE'S OBVIOUSLY DEAD.
694
00:38:08,287 --> 00:38:10,687
THEY PULL INTO
THE CHURCH PARKING LOT,
695
00:38:10,689 --> 00:38:12,022
AND THEY DUMP THE BODY.
696
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,628
THEY EACH GOT $1,000
FOR DOING THE HIT --
697
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:19,996
KIND OF CHEAP, REALLY.
698
00:38:19,998 --> 00:38:21,798
I MEAN, YOU'RE TAKING A LIFE
FOR $1,000.
699
00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:26,169
WE GOT PULLED IN JUST FOR --
MAKE SOME CASH.
700
00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:28,838
I -- THAT'S IT.
701
00:38:32,377 --> 00:38:33,677
OKAY, JOHN.
702
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:39,049
WE ASKED HIM,
"THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER,
703
00:38:39,051 --> 00:38:40,784
WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING
TO BANQUER'S..."
704
00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:45,155
...I SAID, "YOU HAD
THIS STRONG FAMILY BACKGROUND,
705
00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:49,292
THIS GOOD UPBRINGING,
ALWAYS DID WELL IN SCHOOL.
706
00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:51,361
NOW YOU'RE GONNA BECOME
A MURDERER.
707
00:38:51,363 --> 00:38:52,662
WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND?"
708
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,998
AND HE SAID, "I DON'T KNOW.
709
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,033
I GUESS I JUST WASN'T THINKING."
710
00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:07,944
UNFORTUNATELY,
MR. GRZESZCZYK WAS A PAWN
711
00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:13,717
IN A PLOT TO TAKE
MY BROTHER'S LIFE,
712
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,320
AND, UNFORTUNATELY,
713
00:39:17,322 --> 00:39:21,291
THAT PAWN'S LIFE
WAS GONNA BE RUINED...
714
00:39:26,098 --> 00:39:28,798
...FOR THE SAME REASON
AND FROM THE SAME PERSON.
715
00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:35,805
AUGUST 2001--
ALMOST 10 YEARS
716
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,742
SINCE JEFFREY STENNER'S ARREST
FOR ARMED ROBBERY.
717
00:39:41,246 --> 00:39:43,446
WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN INMATE --
JEFFREY STENNER.
718
00:39:43,448 --> 00:39:45,582
WE APPLIED
FOR A WARRANT FOR STENNER,
719
00:39:45,584 --> 00:39:48,818
AND AT THE TIME, HE WAS
FINISHING OUT HIS SENTENCE
720
00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:50,987
IN A FEDERAL PRISON
IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
721
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:52,455
...MYSELF A SIX-PACK.
722
00:39:52,457 --> 00:39:54,924
- YEAH.
- YEAH, YOU KNOW. YEAH, YOU KNOW.
723
00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,426
IT'S REALLY NICE.
724
00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:02,031
DETECTIVES.
725
00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:04,467
HOW ARE YOU?
726
00:40:04,469 --> 00:40:05,735
WE'RE GREAT, JEFF.
727
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:07,537
HOW YOU DOING?
728
00:40:07,539 --> 00:40:09,239
I'M DOING GREAT.
729
00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:10,974
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS
GOT THE MEMO,
730
00:40:10,976 --> 00:40:13,209
BUT I'M GETTING OUT OF HERE
TOMORROW.
731
00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:15,311
THAT'S --
THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD.
732
00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:17,280
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
733
00:40:17,282 --> 00:40:18,948
HE SAID,
"YEAH, I'M WRAPPING UP."
734
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:20,817
WE SAID, "NO, YOU'RE NOT."
735
00:40:20,819 --> 00:40:24,053
WE SAID, "WE HAVE A WARRANT
FOR YOU FOR MURDER."
736
00:40:24,055 --> 00:40:27,056
AND HIS JAW DROPPED,
AND HE STARTED TO SHAKE.
737
00:40:29,027 --> 00:40:32,729
HE DIDN'T SAY "WHAT MURDER?"
DIDN'T SAY "WHOSE MURDER?"
738
00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,964
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY "IT'S
FOR ROBBIE SCHMIDT'S MURDER."
739
00:40:46,011 --> 00:40:54,117
LARRY SKINNER
AND DETECTIVE SAUCIER CAME UP,
740
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,254
AND HE SAID TO ME,
"WE'RE HERE TO TELL YOU
741
00:40:58,256 --> 00:41:01,424
THAT WE ARRESTED JEFF STENNER
FOR THE MURDER OF YOUR BROTHER."
742
00:41:06,565 --> 00:41:09,599
I SAT DOWN IN
THE KITCHEN CHAIR, AND I CRIED.
743
00:41:11,736 --> 00:41:13,603
I WAS SO HAPPY.
744
00:41:15,407 --> 00:41:18,408
I WAS SO HAPPY.
745
00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:29,385
JEFFREY DIDN'T THINK HE WAS
GONNA BE ARRESTED FOR MURDER.
746
00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:32,322
HE FIGURED HE HAD
COMMITTED THE PERFECT CRIME.
747
00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:35,859
WE MET A FORMER INMATE
WHO TOLD US
748
00:41:35,861 --> 00:41:37,260
THAT JEFFREY ADMITTED TO HIM
749
00:41:37,262 --> 00:41:39,596
THAT HE HAD TAKEN THE MONEY
TO THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
750
00:41:39,598 --> 00:41:41,364
AND BURIED IT IN THE GROUND.
751
00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:58,815
NOBODY DESERVES
TO BE MURDERED.
752
00:41:58,817 --> 00:42:01,251
NOBODY.
753
00:42:01,253 --> 00:42:04,320
SOMEONE MAY ANGER YOU.
THEY MAY BE BAD PEOPLE.
754
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:06,055
THEY MAY BE MEAN PEOPLE.
755
00:42:06,057 --> 00:42:07,490
BUT YOU DON'T MURDER THEM.
756
00:42:09,261 --> 00:42:11,494
I GUESS
AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIFE,
757
00:42:11,496 --> 00:42:14,631
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, YOU KNOW.
758
00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:16,833
BUT...
759
00:42:16,835 --> 00:42:19,669
THE MISTAKE HE MADE
WAS BECOMING JEFF'S FRIEND.
760
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:27,544
THERE'S SO MANY "WHAT IFs"
OR "WHO IFs," YOU KNOW?
761
00:42:31,816 --> 00:42:33,883
THERE'S SO MANY POSSIBILITIES.
762
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:37,587
YOU KNOW?
763
00:42:44,129 --> 00:42:45,995
THERE'S SO MANY POSSIBILITIES.
764
00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:48,798
AND HE NEVER GOT TO LIVE
ANY OF THEM.
56977
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