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If you're thinking about what keeps the

If you're thinking about what keeps the

If you're thinking about what keeps the prime minister of Spain up at night, is

prime minister of Spain up at night, is

prime minister of Spain up at night, is it those futuristic

it those futuristic

it those futuristic AI, the algorithm?

AI, the algorithm?

AI, the algorithm? >> You know, let's let's put it in this uh

>> You know, let's let's put it in this uh

>> You know, let's let's put it in this uh this way. Um you know, in the 20th

this way. Um you know, in the 20th

this way. Um you know, in the 20th century, you wouldn't allow a private

century, you wouldn't allow a private

century, you wouldn't allow a private company to have and to own a nuclear

company to have and to own a nuclear

company to have and to own a nuclear arsenal.

arsenal.

arsenal. >> Sure. Why are you we are you know

>> Sure. Why are you we are you know

>> Sure. Why are you we are you know permitting that uh these techno

permitting that uh these techno

permitting that uh these techno oligarchs own such a massive tool that

oligarchs own such a massive tool that

oligarchs own such a massive tool that with its implication in our societies in

with its implication in our societies in

with its implication in our societies in in our coexistence and economy.

in our coexistence and economy.

in our coexistence and economy. >> Well, when you say it that way, it makes

>> Well, when you say it that way, it makes

>> Well, when you say it that way, it makes total sense. But have you thought about

total sense. But have you thought about

total sense. But have you thought about renaming it?

renaming it?

renaming it? [music]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Weekly Show podcast. My name is John

Weekly Show podcast. My name is John

Weekly Show podcast. My name is John Stewart. It is Tuesday, September 22nd.

Stewart. It is Tuesday, September 22nd.

Stewart. It is Tuesday, September 22nd. It is the opening ceremonies at the UN

It is the opening ceremonies at the UN

It is the opening ceremonies at the UN General Assembly. So, I am happily at

General Assembly. So, I am happily at

General Assembly. So, I am happily at home and not dealing with the cluster

home and not dealing with the cluster

home and not dealing with the cluster of traffic that is now uh New York

of traffic that is now uh New York

of traffic that is now uh New York City. Uh for those of you who who don't

City. Uh for those of you who who don't

City. Uh for those of you who who don't know, uh our President Donald Trump just

know, uh our President Donald Trump just

know, uh our President Donald Trump just gave his uh typical barn burner at the

gave his uh typical barn burner at the

gave his uh typical barn burner at the UN. And the big takeaway is, I'm going

UN. And the big takeaway is, I'm going

UN. And the big takeaway is, I'm going to annihilate Iran, and I know AI might

to annihilate Iran, and I know AI might

to annihilate Iran, and I know AI might be a problem. What if we just changed

be a problem. What if we just changed

be a problem. What if we just changed its name?

its name?

its name? He is now saying that he's going to

He is now saying that he's going to

He is now saying that he's going to change it from AI to SI, Supreme

change it from AI to SI, Supreme

change it from AI to SI, Supreme Intelligence. Why not just call it

Intelligence. Why not just call it

Intelligence. Why not just call it Supreme Intelligence? Even though those

Supreme Intelligence? Even though those

Supreme Intelligence? Even though those are two completely different things, why

are two completely different things, why

are two completely different things, why not just rename it? I think he thinks

not just rename it? I think he thinks

not just rename it? I think he thinks the problem with AI is a branding

the problem with AI is a branding

the problem with AI is a branding problem. My favorite part of his

problem. My favorite part of his

problem. My favorite part of his rebranding is he's going to call it

rebranding is he's going to call it

rebranding is he's going to call it Supreme Intelligence, but he's still

Supreme Intelligence, but he's still

Supreme Intelligence, but he's still using his AI force. He started an AI

using his AI force. He started an AI

using his AI force. He started an AI force to control it. I guess the AI

force to control it. I guess the AI

force to control it. I guess the AI force will control the Supreme Int. We

force will control the Supreme Int. We

force will control the Supreme Int. We live in a simulation.

live in a simulation.

live in a simulation. We must. This can't be real. I don't

We must. This can't be real. I don't

We must. This can't be real. I don't know which pillar you take to get out of

know which pillar you take to get out of

know which pillar you take to get out of this, but God.

this, but God.

this, but God. Uh but

Uh but

Uh but that being said, we are very honored

that being said, we are very honored

that being said, we are very honored today. Uh we are delighted because the

today. Uh we are delighted because the

today. Uh we are delighted because the UN General Assembly is in town. We have

UN General Assembly is in town. We have

UN General Assembly is in town. We have some access to uh guests that we might

some access to uh guests that we might

some access to uh guests that we might not normally get a chance uh to speak

not normally get a chance uh to speak

not normally get a chance uh to speak with. And so uh we are going to have

with. And so uh we are going to have

with. And so uh we are going to have that today.

[music] We are delighted uh today. It's

[music] We are delighted uh today. It's

[music] We are delighted uh today. It's obviously it's the United Nations

obviously it's the United Nations

obviously it's the United Nations General Assembly and we are joined by

General Assembly and we are joined by

General Assembly and we are joined by the Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro

the Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro

the Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro Sanchez. Sir, thank you so much for

Sanchez. Sir, thank you so much for

Sanchez. Sir, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.

joining us. We really appreciate it.

joining us. We really appreciate it. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very

>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very

>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much for having me here.

much for having me here.

much for having me here. >> And I would be remiss if I did not begin

>> And I would be remiss if I did not begin

>> And I would be remiss if I did not begin with a hearty congratulations

with a hearty congratulations

with a hearty congratulations to you and your country for your victory

to you and your country for your victory

to you and your country for your victory in the World Cup.

in the World Cup.

in the World Cup. >> Yeah, it's second time. Thank you very

>> Yeah, it's second time. Thank you very

>> Yeah, it's second time. Thank you very much. It is the second time throughout

much. It is the second time throughout

much. It is the second time throughout our history. But actually, we we didn't

our history. But actually, we we didn't

our history. But actually, we we didn't uh won the World Cup only. We also in in

uh won the World Cup only. We also in in

uh won the World Cup only. We also in in women's soccer, we're also the current

women's soccer, we're also the current

women's soccer, we're also the current championship.

championship.

championship. >> Oh.

>> Oh.

>> Oh. >> And the world world cup championship

>> And the world world cup championship

>> And the world world cup championship too. And and also when it comes to the

too. And and also when it comes to the

too. And and also when it comes to the Olympic Games. So it's, you know, it's a

Olympic Games. So it's, you know, it's a

Olympic Games. So it's, you know, it's a it's a

it's a

it's a >> trifecta. You've got all three.

>> trifecta. You've got all three.

>> trifecta. You've got all three. >> Yeah. Yeah. So it's clearly a momentum.

>> Yeah. Yeah. So it's clearly a momentum.

>> Yeah. Yeah. So it's clearly a momentum. >> Are you the European champions as well?

>> Are you the European champions as well?

>> Are you the European champions as well? >> Actually, we are. Yes. Yes. Yes.

>> Actually, we are. Yes. Yes. Yes.

>> Actually, we are. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. That I thought you were that as

>> Yeah. That I thought you were that as

>> Yeah. That I thought you were that as well. So you've you've won everything.

well. So you've you've won everything.

well. So you've you've won everything. >> Fourth. Yes. Yes.

>> Fourth. Yes. Yes.

>> Fourth. Yes. Yes. >> Well, the United States is we're we're

>> Well, the United States is we're we're

>> Well, the United States is we're we're almost at that level. We're just about

almost at that level. We're just about

almost at that level. We're just about Okay. We're not at that level at all.

Okay. We're not at that level at all.

Okay. We're not at that level at all. >> Well, but you are actually in

>> Well, but you are actually in

>> Well, but you are actually in basketball.

basketball.

basketball. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> You know, I'm a big fan of NBA and you

>> You know, I'm a big fan of NBA and you

>> You know, I'm a big fan of NBA and you know, this is the land of basketball.

know, this is the land of basketball.

know, this is the land of basketball. >> Do you have a favorite NBA team?

>> Do you have a favorite NBA team?

>> Do you have a favorite NBA team? >> Well, actually, you know, I know that

>> Well, actually, you know, I know that

>> Well, actually, you know, I know that that you are a big fan of a big

that you are a big fan of a big

that you are a big fan of a big supporter of New York Knicks.

supporter of New York Knicks.

supporter of New York Knicks. >> Yes. In my case, I I'm, you know, I'm

>> Yes. In my case, I I'm, you know, I'm

>> Yes. In my case, I I'm, you know, I'm following this San Antonio sports, but

following this San Antonio sports, but

following this San Antonio sports, but it was not our year. Even though we

it was not our year. Even though we

it was not our year. Even though we reached the finals, I understand you

reached the finals, I understand you

reached the finals, I understand you [laughter] did very well. Now, you

[laughter] did very well. Now, you

[laughter] did very well. Now, you played ball if if I'm not mistaken.

played ball if if I'm not mistaken.

played ball if if I'm not mistaken. >> I play I played basketball when I was

>> I play I played basketball when I was

>> I play I played basketball when I was young

young

young >> h in a a very competitive team in in in

>> h in a a very competitive team in in in

>> h in a a very competitive team in in in Spain in Madrid,

Spain in Madrid,

Spain in Madrid, >> right?

>> right?

>> right? >> But I you know, I quit it when I was 20

>> But I you know, I quit it when I was 20

>> But I you know, I quit it when I was 20 21 years old and uh because of my

21 years old and uh because of my

21 years old and uh because of my studies and then you know I enter into

studies and then you know I enter into

studies and then you know I enter into politics. So I didn't have the time to

politics. So I didn't have the time to

politics. So I didn't have the time to right, you know.

right, you know.

right, you know. >> What was your position when you were

>> What was your position when you were

>> What was your position when you were when you were playing?

when you were playing?

when you were playing? >> It changed over the time, but uh not not

>> It changed over the time, but uh not not

>> It changed over the time, but uh not not not playmaker, but the shooting guard.

not playmaker, but the shooting guard.

not playmaker, but the shooting guard. >> Solid.

>> Solid.

>> Solid. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Okay. All right.

Okay. All right.

Okay. All right. >> I try to do my best. I try to do my

>> I try to do my best. I try to do my

>> I try to do my best. I try to do my best, you know, but uh

best, you know, but uh

best, you know, but uh >> I appreciate that wholeheartedly. How

>> I appreciate that wholeheartedly. How

>> I appreciate that wholeheartedly. How tall are you, sir?

tall are you, sir?

tall are you, sir? >> No. One 1.9, which is like six uh 64,

>> No. One 1.9, which is like six uh 64,

>> No. One 1.9, which is like six uh 64, I believe. No, lower.

I believe. No, lower.

I believe. No, lower. >> Oh, for God's sakes.

>> Oh, for God's sakes.

>> Oh, for God's sakes. >> You're you're you're handsome and 6'4. I

>> You're you're you're handsome and 6'4. I

>> You're you're you're handsome and 6'4. I don't like this interview at all so far.

don't like this interview at all so far.

don't like this interview at all so far. [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] >> Well, I I understand that that you you

>> Well, I I understand that that you you

>> Well, I I understand that that you you you also play soccer.

you also play soccer.

you also play soccer. >> I did play for a little bit because I am

>> I did play for a little bit because I am

>> I did play for a little bit because I am the opposite of 6'4, but 46. [laughter]

the opposite of 6'4, but 46. [laughter]

the opposite of 6'4, but 46. [laughter] So, we're we're we're working through

So, we're we're we're working through

So, we're we're we're working through it. Uh, and thank you for coming over. I

it. Uh, and thank you for coming over. I

it. Uh, and thank you for coming over. I know you just walked over from the UN

know you just walked over from the UN

know you just walked over from the UN General Assembly, and I apologize for

General Assembly, and I apologize for

General Assembly, and I apologize for the traffic. Uh New York City is

the traffic. Uh New York City is

the traffic. Uh New York City is generally

generally

generally >> you have other assets you know New York

>> you have other assets you know New York

>> you have other assets you know New York Manhattan is it's a great place

Manhattan is it's a great place

Manhattan is it's a great place >> it's it's incredible

>> it's it's incredible

>> it's it's incredible >> for spending a weekend a week I don't

>> for spending a weekend a week I don't

>> for spending a weekend a week I don't know for you [laughter] know whole life

know for you [laughter] know whole life

know for you [laughter] know whole life but for a week is

but for a week is

but for a week is >> I can understand that uh were you there

>> I can understand that uh were you there

>> I can understand that uh were you there were you in the general assembly when uh

were you in the general assembly when uh

were you in the general assembly when uh President Trump gave his address? Did

President Trump gave his address? Did

President Trump gave his address? Did you were you able to to to hear it? How

you were you able to to to hear it? How

you were you able to to to hear it? How how was it? Did you get a sense of how

how was it? Did you get a sense of how

how was it? Did you get a sense of how it was received by the uh by the

it was received by the uh by the

it was received by the uh by the assembly at large?

assembly at large?

assembly at large? >> Well, I I think it was a very as usual a

>> Well, I I think it was a very as usual a

>> Well, I I think it was a very as usual a very ideological speech, not not uh back

very ideological speech, not not uh back

very ideological speech, not not uh back as supported by facts and datas.

as supported by facts and datas.

as supported by facts and datas. So somehow when he speaks about climate

So somehow when he speaks about climate

So somehow when he speaks about climate change or the war in Iran or the things

change or the war in Iran or the things

change or the war in Iran or the things that are going on in the Middle East,

that are going on in the Middle East,

that are going on in the Middle East, you know, his political positions are

you know, his political positions are

you know, his political positions are not uh let's say uh uh largely supported

not uh let's say uh uh largely supported

not uh let's say uh uh largely supported by many many countries worldwide.

by many many countries worldwide.

by many many countries worldwide. >> That is a very tactful way of putting

>> That is a very tactful way of putting

>> That is a very tactful way of putting it. Sir, [laughter] uh, we have

it. Sir, [laughter] uh, we have

it. Sir, [laughter] uh, we have difficulty dealing with his inability to

difficulty dealing with his inability to

difficulty dealing with his inability to speak in facts and we're not sure and I

speak in facts and we're not sure and I

speak in facts and we're not sure and I I always wonder leaders

I always wonder leaders

I always wonder leaders around the world. Is there eye rolling

around the world. Is there eye rolling

around the world. Is there eye rolling that goes on? Uh, does he speak that way

that goes on? Uh, does he speak that way

that goes on? Uh, does he speak that way when he speaks to you guys individually?

when he speaks to you guys individually?

when he speaks to you guys individually? Is he or is that a performance that

Is he or is that a performance that

Is he or is that a performance that doesn't seem uh to match what he's like

doesn't seem uh to match what he's like

doesn't seem uh to match what he's like behind the scenes? I I haven't got the

behind the scenes? I I haven't got the

behind the scenes? I I haven't got the the opportunity to to to have a a let's

the opportunity to to to have a a let's

the opportunity to to to have a a let's say a private meeting, a bilateral

say a private meeting, a bilateral

say a private meeting, a bilateral meeting with with President Trump yet,

meeting with with President Trump yet,

meeting with with President Trump yet, but uh of course we we we have the

but uh of course we we we have the

but uh of course we we we have the opportunity to meet in in different

opportunity to meet in in different

opportunity to meet in in different forests and and formats uh the NATO

forests and and formats uh the NATO

forests and and formats uh the NATO summit and and others. uh and yeah well

summit and and others. uh and yeah well

summit and and others. uh and yeah well he has this way of uh of expressing his

he has this way of uh of expressing his

he has this way of uh of expressing his his ideas and and of course uh as I said

his ideas and and of course uh as I said

his ideas and and of course uh as I said earlier very ideological

earlier very ideological

earlier very ideological and and somehow you know when when you

and and somehow you know when when you

and and somehow you know when when you are president or prime minister of

are president or prime minister of

are president or prime minister of course you have your ideology but but

course you have your ideology but but

course you have your ideology but but also you you know you you try to

also you you know you you try to

also you you know you you try to convince and to represent more more

convince and to represent more more

convince and to represent more more people

people

people your country no

your country no

your country no >> you try you try and base your argument

>> you try you try and base your argument

>> you try you try and base your argument in things that have actually happened.

in things that have actually happened.

in things that have actually happened. >> Exactly. Exactly.

>> Exactly. Exactly.

>> Exactly. Exactly. >> That would be the

>> That would be the

>> That would be the >> Yeah. So, so he he speaks about climate

>> Yeah. So, so he he speaks about climate

>> Yeah. So, so he he speaks about climate change and uh he denies climate change.

change and uh he denies climate change.

change and uh he denies climate change. So, he's denying the scientists

So, he's denying the scientists

So, he's denying the scientists and datas and and of course not only uh

and datas and and of course not only uh

and datas and and of course not only uh scientific data but also the daily life

scientific data but also the daily life

scientific data but also the daily life of many citizens around the world also

of many citizens around the world also

of many citizens around the world also here in United States. So, so all in

here in United States. So, so all in

here in United States. So, so all in all, what I'm trying to say is that uh

all, what I'm trying to say is that uh

all, what I'm trying to say is that uh even when you speak about uh if it's

even when you speak about uh if it's

even when you speak about uh if it's worth or not for our societies to uh

worth or not for our societies to uh

worth or not for our societies to uh make this green transition towards

make this green transition towards

make this green transition towards renewables, uh I always say that in

renewables, uh I always say that in

renewables, uh I always say that in Spain at least our data, our experience

Spain at least our data, our experience

Spain at least our data, our experience shows uh that is is worth for for the

shows uh that is is worth for for the

shows uh that is is worth for for the pockets of uh households to uh go for

pockets of uh households to uh go for

pockets of uh households to uh go for this green transition. We have managed

this green transition. We have managed

this green transition. We have managed to reach 60% of our electricity coming

to reach 60% of our electricity coming

to reach 60% of our electricity coming from renewables. We have managed to drop

from renewables. We have managed to drop

from renewables. We have managed to drop uh uh the prices of electricity because

uh uh the prices of electricity because

uh uh the prices of electricity because of this green transition. So uh so you

of this green transition. So uh so you

of this green transition. So uh so you know facts and data shows that uh is the

know facts and data shows that uh is the

know facts and data shows that uh is the contrary to what uh you know the the far

contrary to what uh you know the the far

contrary to what uh you know the the far right as a political movement movement

right as a political movement movement

right as a political movement movement internationally is is is is going in the

internationally is is is is going in the

internationally is is is is going in the wrong direction when it comes to the you

wrong direction when it comes to the you

wrong direction when it comes to the you know the biggest concerns of of uh

know the biggest concerns of of uh

know the biggest concerns of of uh common citizens.

common citizens.

common citizens. Sir, what for you, what is the dividing

Sir, what for you, what is the dividing

Sir, what for you, what is the dividing line in terms of, you know, we think of,

line in terms of, you know, we think of,

line in terms of, you know, we think of, I think in America sometimes the EU as a

I think in America sometimes the EU as a

I think in America sometimes the EU as a bit of a monolith, but it really is

bit of a monolith, but it really is

bit of a monolith, but it really is reflective of there's center-right

reflective of there's center-right

reflective of there's center-right coalitions, there's far-right

coalitions, there's far-right

coalitions, there's far-right coalitions. Yours is considered, I

coalitions. Yours is considered, I

coalitions. Yours is considered, I guess, more progressive. You you kind of

guess, more progressive. You you kind of

guess, more progressive. You you kind of have to form coalitions with maybe some

have to form coalitions with maybe some

have to form coalitions with maybe some separatist groups and some more far-left

separatist groups and some more far-left

separatist groups and some more far-left groups.

groups.

groups. Where do you see these divisions going?

Where do you see these divisions going?

Where do you see these divisions going? and and do you see the movement as it

and and do you see the movement as it

and and do you see the movement as it was here a more right-wing populism a

was here a more right-wing populism a

was here a more right-wing populism a more ideological populism

more ideological populism

more ideological populism dominating

dominating

dominating even in in Europe in the way you know is

even in in Europe in the way you know is

even in in Europe in the way you know is is that a fear of yours is that the

is that a fear of yours is that the

is that a fear of yours is that the direction you see it going in

direction you see it going in

direction you see it going in >> so it's a fear is a direction but also

>> so it's a fear is a direction but also

>> so it's a fear is a direction but also we have mixed signals now so for

we have mixed signals now so for

we have mixed signals now so for instance you you see what was the

instance you you see what was the

instance you you see what was the outcome recently of the Swedish

outcome recently of the Swedish

outcome recently of the Swedish elections where the the far right uh

elections where the the far right uh

elections where the the far right uh reduce its its support and uh also in

reduce its its support and uh also in

reduce its its support and uh also in the Netherlands but on the contrary in

the Netherlands but on the contrary in

the Netherlands but on the contrary in all the countries we see a rise of the

all the countries we see a rise of the

all the countries we see a rise of the far right and the biggest concern to me

far right and the biggest concern to me

far right and the biggest concern to me when it comes to the central right or

when it comes to the central right or

when it comes to the central right or traditional right is that they're

traditional right is that they're

traditional right is that they're committing the same mistake that many or

committing the same mistake that many or

committing the same mistake that many or in the past they did uh when the far

in the past they did uh when the far

in the past they did uh when the far right rised before the second world war

right rised before the second world war

right rised before the second world war which was to cooperate with them to copy

which was to cooperate with them to copy

which was to cooperate with them to copy uh and pays the way and the contents of

uh and pays the way and the contents of

uh and pays the way and the contents of how to do pol politics when it comes to

how to do pol politics when it comes to

how to do pol politics when it comes to to the far right and this is something

to the far right and this is something

to the far right and this is something that we are witnessing not only in Spain

that we are witnessing not only in Spain

that we are witnessing not only in Spain but uh across the European Union. Uh so

but uh across the European Union. Uh so

but uh across the European Union. Uh so I think that of course the far right

I think that of course the far right

I think that of course the far right seeds uh of legitimate anxious and

seeds uh of legitimate anxious and

seeds uh of legitimate anxious and demands of our societies but then when

demands of our societies but then when

demands of our societies but then when they come to office uh they don't

they come to office uh they don't

they come to office uh they don't deliver. So they turn anger into uh

deliver. So they turn anger into uh

deliver. So they turn anger into uh disappointment and that is why you know

disappointment and that is why you know

disappointment and that is why you know we're witnessing for instance in Sweden

we're witnessing for instance in Sweden

we're witnessing for instance in Sweden how they lost uh electoral support. So

how they lost uh electoral support. So

how they lost uh electoral support. So there are like mixed mixed signals but

there are like mixed mixed signals but

there are like mixed mixed signals but is is is true to to go to your point

is is is true to to go to your point

is is is true to to go to your point that there is a a risk of entrenchment

that there is a a risk of entrenchment

that there is a a risk of entrenchment of the European Union and I think that

of the European Union and I think that

of the European Union and I think that is uh that could be one of the biggest

is uh that could be one of the biggest

is uh that could be one of the biggest mistake that we can commit because

mistake that we can commit because

mistake that we can commit because nowadays what we need is a more

nowadays what we need is a more

nowadays what we need is a more proactive on global issues, global

proactive on global issues, global

proactive on global issues, global matters

matters

matters engagement of the European Union not

engagement of the European Union not

engagement of the European Union not only as the commission but also as

only as the commission but also as

only as the commission but also as member states and that is why you know

member states and that is why you know

member states and that is why you know we are following doing uh that that path

we are following doing uh that that path

we are following doing uh that that path being engaged in the debate of

being engaged in the debate of

being engaged in the debate of migration, being engaged in the debate

migration, being engaged in the debate

migration, being engaged in the debate of climate change, being uh advocating

of climate change, being uh advocating

of climate change, being uh advocating for you know the the achievement of the

for you know the the achievement of the

for you know the the achievement of the STGS and the agenda 2030 supporting the

STGS and the agenda 2030 supporting the

STGS and the agenda 2030 supporting the reform of multilateralism, hosting

reform of multilateralism, hosting

reform of multilateralism, hosting important conferences for uh the world

important conferences for uh the world

important conferences for uh the world such as the financing for sustainable

such as the financing for sustainable

such as the financing for sustainable development last year in in Sevilla in

development last year in in Sevilla in

development last year in in Sevilla in the city of the south of Spain. So you

the city of the south of Spain. So you

the city of the south of Spain. So you know we we try to to be engaged and and

know we we try to to be engaged and and

know we we try to to be engaged and and and show Europeans how important is for

and show Europeans how important is for

and show Europeans how important is for us also in our own interest to be open

us also in our own interest to be open

us also in our own interest to be open and knowledge interested when it comes

and knowledge interested when it comes

and knowledge interested when it comes to these kind of politics and debates

to these kind of politics and debates

to these kind of politics and debates >> and Spain is really I mean it's a

>> and Spain is really I mean it's a

>> and Spain is really I mean it's a microcosm of all these cleavages. It is

microcosm of all these cleavages. It is

microcosm of all these cleavages. It is you know if you think about you you

you know if you think about you you

you know if you think about you you talked about the mistake that the center

talked about the mistake that the center

talked about the mistake that the center right would make in cooperating with the

right would make in cooperating with the

right would make in cooperating with the far right. So in Spain you have the

far right. So in Spain you have the

far right. So in Spain you have the People's Party and I guess they would be

People's Party and I guess they would be

People's Party and I guess they would be considered more centerright but then you

considered more centerright but then you

considered more centerright but then you have Vox which is considered I guess

have Vox which is considered I guess

have Vox which is considered I guess more far right. Is it your concern in

more far right. Is it your concern in

more far right. Is it your concern in Spain that those two parties form a

Spain that those two parties form a

Spain that those two parties form a coalition and do they have an

coalition and do they have an

coalition and do they have an opportunity? I don't know your when is

opportunity? I don't know your when is

opportunity? I don't know your when is the next election for you? You've been

the next election for you? You've been

the next election for you? You've been in 8 years 2027. Yes. for more than

in 8 years 2027. Yes. for more than

in 8 years 2027. Yes. for more than >> for more than for more than 8 years. But

>> for more than for more than 8 years. But

>> for more than for more than 8 years. But to to go to your point, you know, for

to to go to your point, you know, for

to to go to your point, you know, for for those who

for those who

for those who >> don't know the the the the let's say the

>> don't know the the the the let's say the

>> don't know the the the the let's say the politics in Spain, we we are a very

politics in Spain, we we are a very

politics in Spain, we we are a very decentralized uh political system. So we

decentralized uh political system. So we

decentralized uh political system. So we have regions such as the states here in

have regions such as the states here in

have regions such as the states here in the United States with a lot of uh let's

the United States with a lot of uh let's

the United States with a lot of uh let's say uh

say uh

say uh competencies and and uh and uh policies

competencies and and uh and uh policies

competencies and and uh and uh policies that they can uh deliver regarding the

that they can uh deliver regarding the

that they can uh deliver regarding the healthcare, social issues, housing

healthcare, social issues, housing

healthcare, social issues, housing policies and so on and so forth. And

policies and so on and so forth. And

policies and so on and so forth. And actually they are they are forming these

actually they are they are forming these

actually they are they are forming these coalition governments in many of the

coalition governments in many of the

coalition governments in many of the regions because the the numbers uh give

regions because the the numbers uh give

regions because the the numbers uh give them these opportunities. And at the end

them these opportunities. And at the end

them these opportunities. And at the end of the day what I see is that they are

of the day what I see is that they are

of the day what I see is that they are not delivering they're just blaming the

not delivering they're just blaming the

not delivering they're just blaming the central government which is of course

central government which is of course

central government which is of course the easiest way of avoiding any kind of

the easiest way of avoiding any kind of

the easiest way of avoiding any kind of political responsibility. But anyhow, I

political responsibility. But anyhow, I

political responsibility. But anyhow, I think that the battle the the dilemma

think that the battle the the dilemma

think that the battle the the dilemma that that Spaniards as many other

that that Spaniards as many other

that that Spaniards as many other societies in Europe will face in the

societies in Europe will face in the

societies in Europe will face in the next general elections is very simple.

next general elections is very simple.

next general elections is very simple. Do you want to continue uh progressing

Do you want to continue uh progressing

Do you want to continue uh progressing and advancing or do you want to you know

and advancing or do you want to you know

and advancing or do you want to you know suffer

suffer

suffer a regression and evolution so to say on

a regression and evolution so to say on

a regression and evolution so to say on many of the policies that we have

many of the policies that we have

many of the policies that we have implemented over the last years not only

implemented over the last years not only

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green transition and humanistic approach

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on migration and immigration? Is that because obviously Spain, you know, you

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because obviously Spain, you know, you had uh Suetto and I'm sure I'm

had uh Suetto and I'm sure I'm

had uh Suetto and I'm sure I'm pronouncing that incorrectly.

pronouncing that incorrectly.

pronouncing that incorrectly. >> Theta Theta. No, no, no. Tha is a Yeah,

>> Theta Theta. No, no, no. Tha is a Yeah,

>> Theta Theta. No, no, no. Tha is a Yeah, >> theta. No, for for for those who are not

>> theta. No, for for for those who are not

>> theta. No, for for for those who are not aware, Theota and Melia are two Spanish

aware, Theota and Melia are two Spanish

aware, Theota and Melia are two Spanish cities

cities

cities in in in in Africa in North Africa. And

in in in in Africa in North Africa. And

in in in in Africa in North Africa. And these are, you know, a very very

these are, you know, a very very

these are, you know, a very very singular uh cities and there are like

singular uh cities and there are like

singular uh cities and there are like hard borders for Spain and also for for

hard borders for Spain and also for for

hard borders for Spain and also for for Europe

Europe

Europe >> in between sort of Morocco and and the

>> in between sort of Morocco and and the

>> in between sort of Morocco and and the Mediterranean

Mediterranean

Mediterranean >> and and the Mediterranean. Yes. Yes.

>> and and the Mediterranean. Yes. Yes.

>> and and the Mediterranean. Yes. Yes. Yes. But but but but also to to to give

Yes. But but but but also to to to give

Yes. But but but but also to to to give you an insight uh the point here is that

you an insight uh the point here is that

you an insight uh the point here is that the reality of the migration in Spain is

the reality of the migration in Spain is

the reality of the migration in Spain is mainly Latin America. eight out of 10

mainly Latin America. eight out of 10

mainly Latin America. eight out of 10 migrants that uh uh demand the

migrants that uh uh demand the

migrants that uh uh demand the regularization, the the amnesty uh in

regularization, the the amnesty uh in

regularization, the the amnesty uh in order to to recognize the the the rights

order to to recognize the the the rights

order to to recognize the the the rights that we gave before the end of summer

that we gave before the end of summer

that we gave before the end of summer were Latin American uh uh citizens or

were Latin American uh uh citizens or

were Latin American uh uh citizens or migrants mainly from Colombia,

migrants mainly from Colombia,

migrants mainly from Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela, Ecuador.

Argentina, Venezuela, Ecuador.

Argentina, Venezuela, Ecuador. >> Not North Africa.

>> Not North Africa.

>> Not North Africa. >> Not North Africa. Of course, we have a

>> Not North Africa. Of course, we have a

>> Not North Africa. Of course, we have a larger diaspora of Moroccans. It was the

larger diaspora of Moroccans. It was the

larger diaspora of Moroccans. It was the second largest

second largest

second largest uh migrants asking for uh citizenship in

uh migrants asking for uh citizenship in

uh migrants asking for uh citizenship in Spain. But uh the the rest were uh in a

Spain. But uh the the rest were uh in a

Spain. But uh the the rest were uh in a large number Latin American uh citizens.

large number Latin American uh citizens.

large number Latin American uh citizens. So, so all in all going to your question

So, so all in all going to your question

So, so all in all going to your question about the far right and the link with

about the far right and the link with

about the far right and the link with migration, of course, migration is a is

migration, of course, migration is a is

migration, of course, migration is a is a is an issue, but I also have to uh to

a is an issue, but I also have to uh to

a is an issue, but I also have to uh to say that a comprehensive policy on

say that a comprehensive policy on

say that a comprehensive policy on migration of course touch the issue of

migration of course touch the issue of

migration of course touch the issue of integration of this migration for the

integration of this migration for the

integration of this migration for the you know the Spanish society but also

you know the Spanish society but also

you know the Spanish society but also fighting against smugglers, opening

fighting against smugglers, opening

fighting against smugglers, opening pathways for regular migration because

pathways for regular migration because

pathways for regular migration because we need regular migration. in order to

we need regular migration. in order to

we need regular migration. in order to boost our economy and finally to

boost our economy and finally to

boost our economy and finally to cooperate with the countries of transit

cooperate with the countries of transit

cooperate with the countries of transit and origin in order to reduce the flows

and origin in order to reduce the flows

and origin in order to reduce the flows of irregular migration and this is

of irregular migration and this is

of irregular migration and this is something that we are doing with Morocco

something that we are doing with Morocco

something that we are doing with Morocco we are doing with Maritania we're doing

we are doing with Maritania we're doing

we are doing with Maritania we're doing also with Sagal which are the you know

also with Sagal which are the you know

also with Sagal which are the you know the closest countries when it comes to

the closest countries when it comes to

the closest countries when it comes to the migration coming from Africa

the migration coming from Africa

the migration coming from Africa >> do you have an ability to do that or is

>> do you have an ability to do that or is

>> do you have an ability to do that or is what's Spain's level of sovereignty

what's Spain's level of sovereignty

what's Spain's level of sovereignty within that EU because our our

within that EU because our our

within that EU because our our understanding of the EU is it's very

understanding of the EU is it's very

understanding of the EU is it's very difficult to wrangle them to make

difficult to wrangle them to make

difficult to wrangle them to make decisions in Brussels.

decisions in Brussels.

decisions in Brussels. >> No, but but like close to two years ago,

>> No, but but like close to two years ago,

>> No, but but like close to two years ago, we we managed to reach this very

we we managed to reach this very

we we managed to reach this very important agreement, this migration of

important agreement, this migration of

important agreement, this migration of asylum agreement backed

asylum agreement backed

asylum agreement backed among all member states of the European

among all member states of the European

among all member states of the European Union and that brought to the table two

Union and that brought to the table two

Union and that brought to the table two aspects of this uh debate. First is of

aspects of this uh debate. First is of

aspects of this uh debate. First is of course control of the borders,

course control of the borders,

course control of the borders, cooperation with with the countries

cooperation with with the countries

cooperation with with the countries operating and transit but second

operating and transit but second

operating and transit but second solidarity. Solidarity means that those

solidarity. Solidarity means that those

solidarity. Solidarity means that those countries that we are in the front line

countries that we are in the front line

countries that we are in the front line so to say uh close closer to to to uh to

so to say uh close closer to to to uh to

so to say uh close closer to to to uh to uh to Africa for instance. We need the

uh to Africa for instance. We need the

uh to Africa for instance. We need the solidarity when we suffered those that

solidarity when we suffered those that

solidarity when we suffered those that migration crisis from the countries of

migration crisis from the countries of

migration crisis from the countries of the central and and and northern part of

the central and and and northern part of

the central and and and northern part of of Europe. And unfortunately going back

of Europe. And unfortunately going back

of Europe. And unfortunately going back to to to theta theta crisis that we

to to to theta theta crisis that we

to to to theta theta crisis that we suffer at the end of of July we didn't

suffer at the end of of July we didn't

suffer at the end of of July we didn't feel that solidarity coming from many of

feel that solidarity coming from many of

feel that solidarity coming from many of these European countries.

these European countries.

these European countries. Even though we we saw that solidarity

Even though we we saw that solidarity

Even though we we saw that solidarity with other crisis in La Perusa for

with other crisis in La Perusa for

with other crisis in La Perusa for instance in Italy or when it comes to

instance in Italy or when it comes to

instance in Italy or when it comes to you know questioning the territorial

you know questioning the territorial

you know questioning the territorial integrity of some member states with the

integrity of some member states with the

integrity of some member states with the issue of of Greenland and and Denmark.

issue of of Greenland and and Denmark.

issue of of Greenland and and Denmark. No. So uh what I'm trying to say is that

No. So uh what I'm trying to say is that

No. So uh what I'm trying to say is that of course migration is an issue for

of course migration is an issue for

of course migration is an issue for European societies. But let me say that

European societies. But let me say that

European societies. But let me say that in in my humble opinion, the the

in in my humble opinion, the the

in in my humble opinion, the the situation

situation

situation of of the far right is is not coming

of of the far right is is not coming

of of the far right is is not coming from a an specific content but uh a

from a an specific content but uh a

from a an specific content but uh a specific tool which which is social

specific tool which which is social

specific tool which which is social media and the algorithm. Uh okay,

media and the algorithm. Uh okay,

media and the algorithm. Uh okay, because it is poisoning the the public

because it is poisoning the the public

because it is poisoning the the public debate. Is it spreading misinformation?

debate. Is it spreading misinformation?

debate. Is it spreading misinformation? is contributing to dehumanize

is contributing to dehumanize

is contributing to dehumanize many dehumanize many of you know the

many dehumanize many of you know the

many dehumanize many of you know the political actors. I'm also victim of of

political actors. I'm also victim of of

political actors. I'm also victim of of of it and uh and you know no algorithm

of it and uh and you know no algorithm

of it and uh and you know no algorithm we we don't vote for algorithm but if

we we don't vote for algorithm but if

we we don't vote for algorithm but if you think it algorithms nowadays affect

you think it algorithms nowadays affect

you think it algorithms nowadays affect in your daily basis more than uh the

in your daily basis more than uh the

in your daily basis more than uh the politicians you vote for this is

politicians you vote for this is

politicians you vote for this is something that we have to to fix and

something that we have to to fix and

something that we have to to fix and this is the debate that we are having

this is the debate that we are having

this is the debate that we are having here in in in the general assembly of

here in in in the general assembly of

here in in in the general assembly of the UN but also domestically on how do

the UN but also domestically on how do

the UN but also domestically on how do we take back control of a a a failed

we take back control of a a a failed

we take back control of a a a failed state which is currently the social

state which is currently the social

state which is currently the social media

media

media >> and that is I mean the European Union

>> and that is I mean the European Union

>> and that is I mean the European Union has always I think been a little

has always I think been a little

has always I think been a little stricter in terms of regulation as far

stricter in terms of regulation as far

stricter in terms of regulation as far as those uh issues go I think the United

as those uh issues go I think the United

as those uh issues go I think the United States not do you view AI as a more

States not do you view AI as a more

States not do you view AI as a more existential threat I guess if if you're

existential threat I guess if if you're

existential threat I guess if if you're thinking about what keeps the prime

thinking about what keeps the prime

thinking about what keeps the prime minister of Spain up at night is it

minister of Spain up at night is it

minister of Spain up at night is it those futuristic

those futuristic

those futuristic AI, the algorithm, uh, is it the more

AI, the algorithm, uh, is it the more

AI, the algorithm, uh, is it the more standard? You know, Spain in terms of

standard? You know, Spain in terms of

standard? You know, Spain in terms of economic growth is doing very well. I

economic growth is doing very well. I

economic growth is doing very well. I mean, certainly within the European

mean, certainly within the European

mean, certainly within the European Union and in general, I don't I don't

Union and in general, I don't I don't

Union and in general, I don't I don't know if that translates to a happier

know if that translates to a happier

know if that translates to a happier populace, but certainly your your

populace, but certainly your your

populace, but certainly your your economic growth

economic growth

economic growth >> looks strong.

>> looks strong.

>> looks strong. >> Yeah, we we are growing economically. We

>> Yeah, we we are growing economically. We

>> Yeah, we we are growing economically. We are uh creating uh employment massively.

are uh creating uh employment massively.

are uh creating uh employment massively. We're reducing inequality thanks to the

We're reducing inequality thanks to the

We're reducing inequality thanks to the redistribution policies that we are

redistribution policies that we are

redistribution policies that we are implementing. But going back to to your

implementing. But going back to to your

implementing. But going back to to your question, I would say that um you know,

question, I would say that um you know,

question, I would say that um you know, let's let's put it in this uh this way.

let's let's put it in this uh this way.

let's let's put it in this uh this way. Um you know, in the 20th century, you

Um you know, in the 20th century, you

Um you know, in the 20th century, you wouldn't allow a private company to have

wouldn't allow a private company to have

wouldn't allow a private company to have and to own a nuclear arsenal.

and to own a nuclear arsenal.

and to own a nuclear arsenal. >> Sure.

>> Sure.

>> Sure. Why are you we are you know permitting

Why are you we are you know permitting

Why are you we are you know permitting that uh these techno oligarchs own such

that uh these techno oligarchs own such

that uh these techno oligarchs own such a massive uh tool that with its

a massive uh tool that with its

a massive uh tool that with its implication in our societies in in our

implication in our societies in in our

implication in our societies in in our coexistence and economy.

coexistence and economy.

coexistence and economy. >> Well, when you say it that way it makes

>> Well, when you say it that way it makes

>> Well, when you say it that way it makes total sense but

total sense but

total sense but >> have you thought about renaming it? So

>> have you thought about renaming it? So

>> have you thought about renaming it? So what the president has done, our

what the president has done, our

what the president has done, our president, uh, President Trump is, he's

president, uh, President Trump is, he's

president, uh, President Trump is, he's taken the name AI, artificial

taken the name AI, artificial

taken the name AI, artificial intelligence, and changed the name to

intelligence, and changed the name to

intelligence, and changed the name to SI. I think it's a brilliant plan, and

SI. I think it's a brilliant plan, and

SI. I think it's a brilliant plan, and I'm sure we'll save the world.

I'm sure we'll save the world.

I'm sure we'll save the world. >> Yeah. But but, uh, you see the paradox.

>> Yeah. But but, uh, you see the paradox.

>> Yeah. But but, uh, you see the paradox. The paradox is that we have this technol

The paradox is that we have this technol

The paradox is that we have this technol investing in a a technology that many of

investing in a a technology that many of

investing in a a technology that many of the, you know, the worker says that

the, you know, the worker says that

the, you know, the worker says that could kill and end humanity. And at the

could kill and end humanity. And at the

could kill and end humanity. And at the same time, these technical oligarchs are

same time, these technical oligarchs are

same time, these technical oligarchs are in investing massively in immortality.

in investing massively in immortality.

in investing massively in immortality. [laughter]

>> So,

>> So,

>> So, >> yeah. And they're trying to get to Mars.

>> yeah. And they're trying to get to Mars.

>> yeah. And they're trying to get to Mars. They're trying to get off this planet.

They're trying to get off this planet.

They're trying to get off this planet. >> Exactly. That that's the ironic uh

>> Exactly. That that's the ironic uh

>> Exactly. That that's the ironic uh situation that we're facing. But I think

situation that we're facing. But I think

situation that we're facing. But I think that what need is a a a a serious uh uh

that what need is a a a a serious uh uh

that what need is a a a a serious uh uh regulation uh responsible development of

regulation uh responsible development of

regulation uh responsible development of AI and not bank bunkers and uh you know

AI and not bank bunkers and uh you know

AI and not bank bunkers and uh you know uh Mars uh missions for for saving the

uh Mars uh missions for for saving the

uh Mars uh missions for for saving the technolic acts. So this is a a very

technolic acts. So this is a a very

technolic acts. So this is a a very important debate that we have to to face

important debate that we have to to face

important debate that we have to to face multilaterally and that is why I think

multilaterally and that is why I think

multilaterally and that is why I think it was very important the step taken by

it was very important the step taken by

it was very important the step taken by the UN assembly last year launching this

the UN assembly last year launching this

the UN assembly last year launching this panel of experts on AI as we did decades

panel of experts on AI as we did decades

panel of experts on AI as we did decades ago for the climate change. Second, I

ago for the climate change. Second, I

ago for the climate change. Second, I think that we have to ask uh our leaders

think that we have to ask uh our leaders

think that we have to ask uh our leaders especially from the global powers such

especially from the global powers such

especially from the global powers such as United States and China and I I think

as United States and China and I I think

as United States and China and I I think that they are going to meet uh by the

that they are going to meet uh by the

that they are going to meet uh by the end of this this month to speak about

end of this this month to speak about

end of this this month to speak about about AI to see how can they seek ways

about AI to see how can they seek ways

about AI to see how can they seek ways of understanding and finding a common uh

of understanding and finding a common uh

of understanding and finding a common uh minimum standards for the the

minimum standards for the the

minimum standards for the the development responsible development of

development responsible development of

development responsible development of of AI. And actually from our side you

of AI. And actually from our side you

of AI. And actually from our side you mentioned the the regulation of the

mentioned the the regulation of the

mentioned the the regulation of the European Union. I have to also share

European Union. I have to also share

European Union. I have to also share with you that Spain was one of the first

with you that Spain was one of the first

with you that Spain was one of the first countries in the world to create a super

countries in the world to create a super

countries in the world to create a super super

super

super oversight

oversight

oversight national agency of of AI. No. So I think

national agency of of AI. No. So I think

national agency of of AI. No. So I think it's important not only at the national

it's important not only at the national

it's important not only at the national level but also European level and

level but also European level and

level but also European level and multilateral level uh to to have a a a

multilateral level uh to to have a a a

multilateral level uh to to have a a a strong regulation. The other day I was

strong regulation. The other day I was

strong regulation. The other day I was reading an article of you know this uh

reading an article of you know this uh

reading an article of you know this uh you know very very important novel price

you know very very important novel price

you know very very important novel price Joseph Stiglets.

Joseph Stiglets.

Joseph Stiglets. >> Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Stiglets wonderful

>> Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Stiglets wonderful

>> Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Stiglets wonderful economist. Yeah. Yeah.

economist. Yeah. Yeah.

economist. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. We we need a a an agenda for AI

>> Yeah. We we need a a an agenda for AI

>> Yeah. We we need a a an agenda for AI which is you know first of all

which is you know first of all

which is you know first of all competition.

competition.

competition. >> It's very monopolistic. Yeah. Second

>> It's very monopolistic. Yeah. Second

>> It's very monopolistic. Yeah. Second regulation

regulation

regulation and third and third redistribution. If

and third and third redistribution. If

and third and third redistribution. If as technol says

as technol says

as technol says we are in you know in the beginning of

we are in you know in the beginning of

we are in you know in the beginning of the abundance era this is something that

the abundance era this is something that

the abundance era this is something that we hear often h by these technologicers.

we hear often h by these technologicers.

we hear often h by these technologicers. Okay let's talk about redistribution.

Okay let's talk about redistribution.

Okay let's talk about redistribution. Let's talk about how can we uh increase

Let's talk about how can we uh increase

Let's talk about how can we uh increase our the salaries of our teachers erh you

our the salaries of our teachers erh you

our the salaries of our teachers erh you know the the health professionals and

know the the health professionals and

know the the health professionals and and so on and so forth. No. And this is

and so on and so forth. No. And this is

and so on and so forth. No. And this is a debate that we must face not only at

a debate that we must face not only at

a debate that we must face not only at national level but also at multilateral

national level but also at multilateral

national level but also at multilateral level.

level.

level. >> Is multilateralism

>> Is multilateralism

>> Is multilateralism in this moment

in this moment

in this moment is it dead? Is it on life support? you

is it dead? Is it on life support? you

is it dead? Is it on life support? you know what is your feeling of how easily

know what is your feeling of how easily

know what is your feeling of how easily countries uh China, EU, Russia, the

countries uh China, EU, Russia, the

countries uh China, EU, Russia, the United States, it feels as though we're

United States, it feels as though we're

United States, it feels as though we're moving into an era of

moving into an era of

moving into an era of spheres of influence but that

spheres of influence but that

spheres of influence but that multilateralism or I guess the negative

multilateralism or I guess the negative

multilateralism or I guess the negative term for it would be globalization and

term for it would be globalization and

term for it would be globalization and and those things is is dead to some

and those things is is dead to some

and those things is is dead to some extent. Is that a problem for solving

extent. Is that a problem for solving

extent. Is that a problem for solving these kinds of problems? and how do you

these kinds of problems? and how do you

these kinds of problems? and how do you revive it?

revive it?

revive it? >> So if I mean I've been in office for

>> So if I mean I've been in office for

>> So if I mean I've been in office for eight years. So I was a prime minister

eight years. So I was a prime minister

eight years. So I was a prime minister in Spain when we suffered the pandemic

in Spain when we suffered the pandemic

in Spain when we suffered the pandemic covid 19. So I think this is the the the

covid 19. So I think this is the the the

covid 19. So I think this is the the the best example to say that we need

best example to say that we need

best example to say that we need multilateralism

multilateralism

multilateralism and inclusive and universal

and inclusive and universal

and inclusive and universal multilateralism which is not happening

multilateralism which is not happening

multilateralism which is not happening nowadays. So we need to reform the

nowadays. So we need to reform the

nowadays. So we need to reform the multilateral order. we need to uh to be

multilateral order. we need to uh to be

multilateral order. we need to uh to be generous from the western uh h side in

generous from the western uh h side in

generous from the western uh h side in order to to have a a more representative

order to to have a a more representative

order to to have a a more representative multilateral order. Second, you know,

multilateral order. Second, you know,

multilateral order. Second, you know, the problem is that we have permanent

the problem is that we have permanent

the problem is that we have permanent members of the security council that are

members of the security council that are

members of the security council that are violating uh the international law,

violating uh the international law,

violating uh the international law, Russia in the case of Ukraine, we have

Russia in the case of Ukraine, we have

Russia in the case of Ukraine, we have this Iran war in you know

this Iran war in you know

this Iran war in you know >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. Yeah. So, so it was a a two-week war and

Yeah. So, so it was a a two-week war and

Yeah. So, so it was a a two-week war and it has transformed into a $6 gallon war.

it has transformed into a $6 gallon war.

it has transformed into a $6 gallon war. >> And he's threatening to annihilate I

>> And he's threatening to annihilate I

>> And he's threatening to annihilate I mean he he stood up in front of the UN.

mean he he stood up in front of the UN.

mean he he stood up in front of the UN. Last year he went in front of the UN and

Last year he went in front of the UN and

Last year he went in front of the UN and said I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.

said I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.

said I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. This year he went in front of the UN and

This year he went in front of the UN and

This year he went in front of the UN and said I'm thinking of annihilating a

said I'm thinking of annihilating a

said I'm thinking of annihilating a country.

country.

country. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> It's jarring.

>> It's jarring.

>> It's jarring. >> Yes. But the the point here is that the

>> Yes. But the the point here is that the

>> Yes. But the the point here is that the cost of living not only for the US

cost of living not only for the US

cost of living not only for the US citizens but the worldwide is increasing

citizens but the worldwide is increasing

citizens but the worldwide is increasing because of this war and uh there's

because of this war and uh there's

because of this war and uh there's there's no no way or no no news about a

there's no no way or no no news about a

there's no no way or no no news about a potential agreement between Iran and and

potential agreement between Iran and and

potential agreement between Iran and and the US and and the situation is getting

the US and and the situation is getting

the US and and the situation is getting worse in the region worldwide and of

worse in the region worldwide and of

worse in the region worldwide and of course is uh putting in a very difficult

course is uh putting in a very difficult

course is uh putting in a very difficult situation economics the economics of of

situation economics the economics of of

situation economics the economics of of many of many households enterprises,

many of many households enterprises,

many of many households enterprises, industries and of course uh countries.

industries and of course uh countries.

industries and of course uh countries. So you know we're suffering more

So you know we're suffering more

So you know we're suffering more inflation inflation because of this war

inflation inflation because of this war

inflation inflation because of this war and uh and uh the situation is getting

and uh and uh the situation is getting

and uh and uh the situation is getting worse and worse. So you know that is why

worse and worse. So you know that is why

worse and worse. So you know that is why I think it's so important to go back

I think it's so important to go back

I think it's so important to go back again to politics. You know many times

again to politics. You know many times

again to politics. You know many times in in the public debate we speak about

in in the public debate we speak about

in in the public debate we speak about rearming. We speak about how are we

rearming. We speak about how are we

rearming. We speak about how are we going to spend more money on defense on

going to spend more money on defense on

going to spend more money on defense on but less on politics and diplomacy. And

but less on politics and diplomacy. And

but less on politics and diplomacy. And that is why it's so important to going

that is why it's so important to going

that is why it's so important to going back to your question to strengthening

back to your question to strengthening

back to your question to strengthening the multilateral order to uh provide

the multilateral order to uh provide

the multilateral order to uh provide with new uh insights and energy uh the

with new uh insights and energy uh the

with new uh insights and energy uh the UN system in order to you know to to to

UN system in order to you know to to to

UN system in order to you know to to to solve crisis such as the one in Iran or

solve crisis such as the one in Iran or

solve crisis such as the one in Iran or the one that is suffering between Israel

the one that is suffering between Israel

the one that is suffering between Israel and Palestine with Gaza in the strip in

and Palestine with Gaza in the strip in

and Palestine with Gaza in the strip in the center or or Ukraine war. So these

the center or or Ukraine war. So these

the center or or Ukraine war. So these are at least you know the the the the

are at least you know the the the the

are at least you know the the the the issues that I'm trying to defend here in

issues that I'm trying to defend here in

issues that I'm trying to defend here in in in the UN assembly and I and and not

in in the UN assembly and I and and not

in in the UN assembly and I and and not only me but many many other other

only me but many many other other

only me but many many other other countries are to do the same. Well,

countries are to do the same. Well,

countries are to do the same. Well, that's what I was going to ask you is,

that's what I was going to ask you is,

that's what I was going to ask you is, you know, uh, Prime Minister Carney of

you know, uh, Prime Minister Carney of

you know, uh, Prime Minister Carney of Canada made a speech last time at the UN

Canada made a speech last time at the UN

Canada made a speech last time at the UN where he talked a lot about the middle

where he talked a lot about the middle

where he talked a lot about the middle powers and it was sort of this idea that

powers and it was sort of this idea that

powers and it was sort of this idea that if the large powers, if China and Russia

if the large powers, if China and Russia

if the large powers, if China and Russia and the United States are are moving to

and the United States are are moving to

and the United States are are moving to their own interests and retreating from

their own interests and retreating from

their own interests and retreating from the type of leadership you're talking

the type of leadership you're talking

the type of leadership you're talking about,

about,

about, is the is the green chute of this

is the is the green chute of this

is the is the green chute of this movement these middle powers and and

movement these middle powers and and

movement these middle powers and and have you seen other leaders very few

have you seen other leaders very few

have you seen other leaders very few have pushed back in the manner that you

have pushed back in the manner that you

have pushed back in the manner that you have and Carney I guess it was at Davos

have and Carney I guess it was at Davos

have and Carney I guess it was at Davos that he said that not at the UN General

that he said that not at the UN General

that he said that not at the UN General Assembly last time it was the Davos

Assembly last time it was the Davos

Assembly last time it was the Davos speech um

speech um

speech um >> but it was about these middle powers

>> but it was about these middle powers

>> but it was about these middle powers showing leadership in that direction

showing leadership in that direction

showing leadership in that direction because we're not seeing that leadership

because we're not seeing that leadership

because we're not seeing that leadership from the United States we're not seeing

from the United States we're not seeing

from the United States we're not seeing that leadership from China we're not

that leadership from China we're not

that leadership from China we're not seeing that leadership from Russia

seeing that leadership from Russia

seeing that leadership from Russia >> but then you have India you have Brazil

>> but then you have India you have Brazil

>> but then you have India you have Brazil you have the European Union you have

you have the European Union you have

you have the European Union you have Canada, you have many countries in

Canada, you have many countries in

Canada, you have many countries in Africa. So the world is very big. So I

Africa. So the world is very big. So I

Africa. So the world is very big. So I mean the the the mistake that these big

mean the the the mistake that these big

mean the the the mistake that these big powers are committing is that they

powers are committing is that they

powers are committing is that they believe that we are living in the 20

believe that we are living in the 20

believe that we are living in the 20 20th century but we are living in 21st

20th century but we are living in 21st

20th century but we are living in 21st century. There are many other actors

century. There are many other actors

century. There are many other actors with a lot of leverage uh with a lot of

with a lot of leverage uh with a lot of

with a lot of leverage uh with a lot of population uh and uh with a lot of

population uh and uh with a lot of

population uh and uh with a lot of strengthens and and assets uh to to

strengthens and and assets uh to to

strengthens and and assets uh to to influence the path of the world

influence the path of the world

influence the path of the world is is taking. But let me add that uh you

is is taking. But let me add that uh you

is is taking. But let me add that uh you know of course I agree with with Prime

know of course I agree with with Prime

know of course I agree with with Prime Minister Carney. I think that is you

Minister Carney. I think that is you

Minister Carney. I think that is you know the the role of middle powers is is

know the the role of middle powers is is

know the the role of middle powers is is critical is instrumental for for for the

critical is instrumental for for for the

critical is instrumental for for for the good of of of the world. My my my my my

good of of of the world. My my my my my

good of of of the world. My my my my my only difference that I have with with

only difference that I have with with

only difference that I have with with Prime Minister Carney is a very good

Prime Minister Carney is a very good

Prime Minister Carney is a very good friend is that you know of course

friend is that you know of course

friend is that you know of course sometimes leaders we we have this

sometimes leaders we we have this

sometimes leaders we we have this temptation of uh working in small

temptation of uh working in small

temptation of uh working in small circles you know like-minded partners

circles you know like-minded partners

circles you know like-minded partners like a kind of miniateralism

like a kind of miniateralism

like a kind of miniateralism but we need is a a maxillateralism

but we need is a a maxillateralism

but we need is a a maxillateralism which means to broader uh the scope hope

which means to broader uh the scope hope

which means to broader uh the scope hope to broader the circle and to

to broader the circle and to

to broader the circle and to strengthening the uh common action from

strengthening the uh common action from

strengthening the uh common action from countries and that is why I think it's

countries and that is why I think it's

countries and that is why I think it's very important of course working through

very important of course working through

very important of course working through this you know coalition of the willing

this you know coalition of the willing

this you know coalition of the willing uh with like-minded countries but

uh with like-minded countries but

uh with like-minded countries but especially to strengthen strengthening

especially to strengthen strengthening

especially to strengthen strengthening the the the the multilateral of the of

the the the the multilateral of the of

the the the the multilateral of the of the UN and that is why I think that we

the UN and that is why I think that we

the UN and that is why I think that we have a momentum we are about to to

have a momentum we are about to to

have a momentum we are about to to choose the new uh secretary general of

choose the new uh secretary general of

choose the new uh secretary general of the UN uh uh by the end of the year from

the UN uh uh by the end of the year from

the UN uh uh by the end of the year from Spain and many other countries we are

Spain and many other countries we are

Spain and many other countries we are supporting uh that we have to respect

supporting uh that we have to respect

supporting uh that we have to respect the the geographical rotation which

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You talk about, you know, sending these

You talk about, you know, sending these messages and some of them symbolic and

messages and some of them symbolic and

messages and some of them symbolic and some of them not. How do you convince

some of them not. How do you convince

some of them not. How do you convince people that this global cooperation will

people that this global cooperation will

people that this global cooperation will bring prosperity or will reduce

bring prosperity or will reduce

bring prosperity or will reduce inequality? Because the rise of this

inequality? Because the rise of this

inequality? Because the rise of this nationalist and populist fervor

nationalist and populist fervor

nationalist and populist fervor seems to be based on the idea that to

seems to be based on the idea that to

seems to be based on the idea that to cooperate with other nations is to

cooperate with other nations is to

cooperate with other nations is to diminish ours and to to diminish our own

diminish ours and to to diminish our own

diminish ours and to to diminish our own economic prospects. So, how do you make

economic prospects. So, how do you make

economic prospects. So, how do you make the case to Spaniards that these

the case to Spaniards that these

the case to Spaniards that these migrants that come in from Morocco, they

migrants that come in from Morocco, they

migrants that come in from Morocco, they increase our prosperity or to uh Hungary

increase our prosperity or to uh Hungary

increase our prosperity or to uh Hungary or Italy or these other or the AFD who

or Italy or these other or the AFD who

or Italy or these other or the AFD who have, you know, seized control in that

have, you know, seized control in that

have, you know, seized control in that one region uh of Germany?

one region uh of Germany?

one region uh of Germany? How do you make the case that your

How do you make the case that your

How do you make the case that your vision for multilateralism

vision for multilateralism

vision for multilateralism and cooperation

and cooperation

and cooperation also brings that prosperity to people

also brings that prosperity to people

also brings that prosperity to people that it's not just a moral imperative

that it's not just a moral imperative

that it's not just a moral imperative but it's actually one that will improve

but it's actually one that will improve

but it's actually one that will improve their lives as well. So yeah and and to

their lives as well. So yeah and and to

their lives as well. So yeah and and to to follow your question uh

to follow your question uh

to follow your question uh please give me one example of a farright

please give me one example of a farright

please give me one example of a farright government that has improved

government that has improved

government that has improved uh the wealth and prosperity of its

uh the wealth and prosperity of its

uh the wealth and prosperity of its citizens.

citizens.

citizens. >> Right?

>> Right?

>> Right? >> What they have brought to uh the table

>> What they have brought to uh the table

>> What they have brought to uh the table is more disorder, more insecurity and

is more disorder, more insecurity and

is more disorder, more insecurity and more uh poverty and inequality. So I

more uh poverty and inequality. So I

more uh poverty and inequality. So I agree with you that uh this is the

agree with you that uh this is the

agree with you that uh this is the question uh Mark that we have to to

question uh Mark that we have to to

question uh Mark that we have to to answer. And to me

answer. And to me

answer. And to me one one angle uh is one angle would be

one one angle uh is one angle would be

one one angle uh is one angle would be to to to say that the global agenda is

to to to say that the global agenda is

to to to say that the global agenda is the agenda of the common the current

the agenda of the common the current

the agenda of the common the current people the common people.

people the common people.

people the common people. uh and and we have a good example with

uh and and we have a good example with

uh and and we have a good example with this war in Iraq. Why we are suffering

this war in Iraq. Why we are suffering

this war in Iraq. Why we are suffering an increase of prices? Why you know we

an increase of prices? Why you know we

an increase of prices? Why you know we are having more and more increase of

are having more and more increase of

are having more and more increase of cost of living because geopolitics is

cost of living because geopolitics is

cost of living because geopolitics is affecting also uh our daily uh daily uh

affecting also uh our daily uh daily uh

affecting also uh our daily uh daily uh life uh uh when we go to the gas station

life uh uh when we go to the gas station

life uh uh when we go to the gas station when we uh buy at supermarket. So all in

when we uh buy at supermarket. So all in

when we uh buy at supermarket. So all in all what I'm trying to say is that this

all what I'm trying to say is that this

all what I'm trying to say is that this global uh agenda that we are defending

global uh agenda that we are defending

global uh agenda that we are defending here in in the UN agenda 2030 fight

here in in the UN agenda 2030 fight

here in in the UN agenda 2030 fight against uh inequality fight against

against uh inequality fight against

against uh inequality fight against child poverty going for a green

child poverty going for a green

child poverty going for a green transition is for the good of uh the

transition is for the good of uh the

transition is for the good of uh the normal people the common people and uh

normal people the common people and uh

normal people the common people and uh of course

of course

of course asking these far-right governments and

asking these far-right governments and

asking these far-right governments and farright movements of they have

farright movements of they have

farright movements of they have accomplished and by the way what they

accomplished and by the way what they

accomplished and by the way what they are defending because at the end of the

are defending because at the end of the

are defending because at the end of the day what I see is that they defending

day what I see is that they defending

day what I see is that they defending you know the techno oligarchs which want

you know the techno oligarchs which want

you know the techno oligarchs which want only to uh to concentrate more and more

only to uh to concentrate more and more

only to uh to concentrate more and more power and more h more uh wealth in a few

power and more h more uh wealth in a few

power and more h more uh wealth in a few hands. They deny

hands. They deny

hands. They deny cooperation on on international taxation

cooperation on on international taxation

cooperation on on international taxation which is I think fair for many countries

which is I think fair for many countries

which is I think fair for many countries that are suffering inequality. uh and of

that are suffering inequality. uh and of

that are suffering inequality. uh and of course nurturing and financing uh our

course nurturing and financing uh our

course nurturing and financing uh our welfare state in the case of Spain or

welfare state in the case of Spain or

welfare state in the case of Spain or the case of European Union you know and

the case of European Union you know and

the case of European Union you know and we have many uh many um good examples in

we have many uh many um good examples in

we have many uh many um good examples in the case of Spain uh I I can show with

the case of Spain uh I I can show with

the case of Spain uh I I can show with facts that this thanks to this green

facts that this thanks to this green

facts that this thanks to this green transition we have been able to uh

transition we have been able to uh

transition we have been able to uh increase our competitiveness

increase our competitiveness

increase our competitiveness uh on electricity on uh of course other

uh on electricity on uh of course other

uh on electricity on uh of course other issues or when migration, you know, this

issues or when migration, you know, this

issues or when migration, you know, this migration policy is also helping us to

migration policy is also helping us to

migration policy is also helping us to uh boost economy and also creating jobs

uh boost economy and also creating jobs

uh boost economy and also creating jobs not only for migrants but also for

not only for migrants but also for

not only for migrants but also for nationals and when it when it comes to

nationals and when it when it comes to

nationals and when it when it comes to you know strengthening our social

you know strengthening our social

you know strengthening our social pillars we are reducing inequality. So

pillars we are reducing inequality. So

pillars we are reducing inequality. So these are facts that of course show that

these are facts that of course show that

these are facts that of course show that this progressive agenda is for the good

this progressive agenda is for the good

this progressive agenda is for the good of the of the you know the normal

of the of the you know the normal

of the of the you know the normal people. Why do you think, and this is a

people. Why do you think, and this is a

people. Why do you think, and this is a question that I think kind of keeps me

question that I think kind of keeps me

question that I think kind of keeps me up at night, that why are the facts

up at night, that why are the facts

up at night, that why are the facts so fragile when it comes to so the

so fragile when it comes to so the

so fragile when it comes to so the things that you're saying and you're

things that you're saying and you're

things that you're saying and you're talking about the growth in Spain and

talking about the growth in Spain and

talking about the growth in Spain and the reduction of inequality, those are

the reduction of inequality, those are

the reduction of inequality, those are clearly facts and yet uh right after the

clearly facts and yet uh right after the

clearly facts and yet uh right after the crisis in uh July in and I'm gonna screw

crisis in uh July in and I'm gonna screw

crisis in uh July in and I'm gonna screw this up again. uh

this up again. uh

this up again. uh >> fil

>> fil

>> fil uh

uh

uh the right surged in Spain. Your

the right surged in Spain. Your

the right surged in Spain. Your popularity dipped and it it sort of

popularity dipped and it it sort of

popularity dipped and it it sort of flipped. Your coalition was kind of more

flipped. Your coalition was kind of more

flipped. Your coalition was kind of more popular and now it's less popular. So

popular and now it's less popular. So

popular and now it's less popular. So all I guess what I'm saying is

all I guess what I'm saying is

all I guess what I'm saying is all those aspirations

all those aspirations

all those aspirations even when true seem so fragile in the

even when true seem so fragile in the

even when true seem so fragile in the face of the emotional impact of what

face of the emotional impact of what

face of the emotional impact of what people feel like the loss of their

people feel like the loss of their

people feel like the loss of their sovereignty.

sovereignty.

sovereignty. Does that make sense?

Does that make sense?

Does that make sense? >> No. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. And

>> No. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. And

>> No. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. And I think that when we speak about

I think that when we speak about

I think that when we speak about sovereignity, we speak also about this

sovereignity, we speak also about this

sovereignity, we speak also about this agenda for for the the good of the

agenda for for the the good of the

agenda for for the the good of the common people. No. of normal people and

common people. No. of normal people and

common people. No. of normal people and of course so how do we uh increase our

of course so how do we uh increase our

of course so how do we uh increase our capacity to decide by ourselves

capacity to decide by ourselves

capacity to decide by ourselves >> right

>> right

>> right >> being more dependent of uh external

>> being more dependent of uh external

>> being more dependent of uh external powers or being more strong within the

powers or being more strong within the

powers or being more strong within the European Union that is why I was asking

European Union that is why I was asking

European Union that is why I was asking for solidarity uh before when we when

for solidarity uh before when we when

for solidarity uh before when we when you asked me about the the crisis not

you asked me about the the crisis not

you asked me about the the crisis not and and by the way how do we manage to

and and by the way how do we manage to

and and by the way how do we manage to solve this problem I I think it's is is

solve this problem I I think it's is is

solve this problem I I think it's is is more intelligent to have a constructive

more intelligent to have a constructive

more intelligent to have a constructive relationship with Morocco which is you

relationship with Morocco which is you

relationship with Morocco which is you know the country of origin of most of

know the country of origin of most of

know the country of origin of most of these

these

these migrants that came to fate this crisis.

migrants that came to fate this crisis.

migrants that came to fate this crisis. Of course we have asked Morocco for

Of course we have asked Morocco for

Of course we have asked Morocco for insights, answers and also actions and

insights, answers and also actions and

insights, answers and also actions and they're taking it and and giving us

they're taking it and and giving us

they're taking it and and giving us those those answers. We're still under

those those answers. We're still under

those those answers. We're still under the process of investigate where was uh

the process of investigate where was uh

the process of investigate where was uh you know the the the causes the the the

you know the the the causes the the the

you know the the the causes the the the the roots of of this crisis.

the roots of of this crisis.

the roots of of this crisis. >> Morocco said they had nothing to they

>> Morocco said they had nothing to they

>> Morocco said they had nothing to they said it wasn't an organized but it's

said it wasn't an organized but it's

said it wasn't an organized but it's hard to imagine tens of thousands of

hard to imagine tens of thousands of

hard to imagine tens of thousands of people coming across coincidentally.

people coming across coincidentally.

people coming across coincidentally. >> Yeah. Okay. But but you know as prime

>> Yeah. Okay. But but you know as prime

>> Yeah. Okay. But but you know as prime minister I have to act with facts and

minister I have to act with facts and

minister I have to act with facts and you know there's no clear evidence. But

you know there's no clear evidence. But

you know there's no clear evidence. But let me add to this to this issue that of

let me add to this to this issue that of

let me add to this to this issue that of course it is there's a reality economic

course it is there's a reality economic

course it is there's a reality economic reality

reality

reality um um a gap of economic development

um um a gap of economic development

um um a gap of economic development between one side of of the border and

between one side of of the border and

between one side of of the border and the other side of the border which of

the other side of the border which of

the other side of the border which of course is an instinctive for many youth

course is an instinctive for many youth

course is an instinctive for many youth for many young people to you know cross

for many young people to you know cross

for many young people to you know cross the border and try to to reach

the border and try to to reach

the border and try to to reach opportunities What we have to show these

opportunities What we have to show these

opportunities What we have to show these people is that there will be always

people is that there will be always

people is that there will be always legal pathways to do so but without of

legal pathways to do so but without of

legal pathways to do so but without of course suffering uh the let's say the

course suffering uh the let's say the

course suffering uh the let's say the the attack that we suffered in uh last

the attack that we suffered in uh last

the attack that we suffered in uh last July. But of course when you when you go

July. But of course when you when you go

July. But of course when you when you go to the idea of sovereignity uh let's put

to the idea of sovereignity uh let's put

to the idea of sovereignity uh let's put it this way if

it this way if

it this way if we don't uh move forward in the idea of

we don't uh move forward in the idea of

we don't uh move forward in the idea of the integration of the European Union

the integration of the European Union

the integration of the European Union for instance on the capital union market

for instance on the capital union market

for instance on the capital union market or for instance on defense having a a

or for instance on defense having a a

or for instance on defense having a a real uh European uh army or uh

real uh European uh army or uh

real uh European uh army or uh a strategic autonomy on you know

a strategic autonomy on you know

a strategic autonomy on you know technology or uh energy. Are we going to

technology or uh energy. Are we going to

technology or uh energy. Are we going to be more dependent on on third actors or

be more dependent on on third actors or

be more dependent on on third actors or external actors or we going to be more

external actors or we going to be more

external actors or we going to be more autonomous? That is the contradiction of

autonomous? That is the contradiction of

autonomous? That is the contradiction of the far right.

the far right.

the far right. >> Do you believe that the EU is agile

>> Do you believe that the EU is agile

>> Do you believe that the EU is agile enough or is it too bureaucratic to be

enough or is it too bureaucratic to be

enough or is it too bureaucratic to be able to tackle those problems that

able to tackle those problems that

able to tackle those problems that you're saying at the Brussels level?

you're saying at the Brussels level?

you're saying at the Brussels level? because that's been the frustration with

because that's been the frustration with

because that's been the frustration with them.

them.

them. >> So there's there's there's of course a

>> So there's there's there's of course a

>> So there's there's there's of course a lot of bureaucracy that we have to

lot of bureaucracy that we have to

lot of bureaucracy that we have to avoid, we have to reduce and this is

avoid, we have to reduce and this is

avoid, we have to reduce and this is this is clear to me. But on the other

this is clear to me. But on the other

this is clear to me. But on the other hand, you know, the European Union is a

hand, you know, the European Union is a

hand, you know, the European Union is a is a a construction an animal, a

is a a construction an animal, a

is a a construction an animal, a different animal to a federal system as

different animal to a federal system as

different animal to a federal system as you have here in United States or the

you have here in United States or the

you have here in United States or the sum of member states, 27 member states.

sum of member states, 27 member states.

sum of member states, 27 member states. And the the the the the good point about

And the the the the the good point about

And the the the the the good point about it is that you are seeing more and more

it is that you are seeing more and more

it is that you are seeing more and more countries willing to uh to be part of

countries willing to uh to be part of

countries willing to uh to be part of the European Union. Of course, we have

the European Union. Of course, we have

the European Union. Of course, we have you know the challenge of Ukraine which

you know the challenge of Ukraine which

you know the challenge of Ukraine which of course from Spain we are positively

of course from Spain we are positively

of course from Spain we are positively uh about its future integration but also

uh about its future integration but also

uh about its future integration but also Muldova, Western Balkcans.

Muldova, Western Balkcans.

Muldova, Western Balkcans. >> You see expansion you you're looking

>> You see expansion you you're looking

>> You see expansion you you're looking right.

right.

right. >> Yes. and and and the challenge to me for

>> Yes. and and and the challenge to me for

>> Yes. and and and the challenge to me for of the European Union is not to lose uh

of the European Union is not to lose uh

of the European Union is not to lose uh its principles, not to strengthen but to

its principles, not to strengthen but to

its principles, not to strengthen but to open ourselves to be engaged on global

open ourselves to be engaged on global

open ourselves to be engaged on global issues

issues

issues because it's in favor of our own

because it's in favor of our own

because it's in favor of our own interest and it will work for our own

interest and it will work for our own

interest and it will work for our own interest and uh second

interest and uh second

interest and uh second to to reform itself from inside. If

to to reform itself from inside. If

to to reform itself from inside. If we're going to face a European Union of

we're going to face a European Union of

we're going to face a European Union of more than 30 member states, of course,

more than 30 member states, of course,

more than 30 member states, of course, we will need to reform uh our let's say

we will need to reform uh our let's say

we will need to reform uh our let's say way of uh proceed and take uh decisions

way of uh proceed and take uh decisions

way of uh proceed and take uh decisions and make them uh more agile.

and make them uh more agile.

and make them uh more agile. >> Now, you are uh going to be delivering

>> Now, you are uh going to be delivering

>> Now, you are uh going to be delivering your remarks at the UN General Assembly

your remarks at the UN General Assembly

your remarks at the UN General Assembly later on in this week.

later on in this week.

later on in this week. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Is there uh is there a preview? Is there

>> Is there uh is there a preview? Is there

>> Is there uh is there a preview? Is there a theme? what are the kinds of uh what

a theme? what are the kinds of uh what

a theme? what are the kinds of uh what are the kinds of issues that you're

are the kinds of issues that you're

are the kinds of issues that you're going to be putting forth into that

going to be putting forth into that

going to be putting forth into that body?

body?

body? >> Well, first I will I will speak about

>> Well, first I will I will speak about

>> Well, first I will I will speak about multilateralism and the need of reform

multilateralism and the need of reform

multilateralism and the need of reform in the way that I mentioned it earlier

in the way that I mentioned it earlier

in the way that I mentioned it earlier inclusive and universal. But let me add

inclusive and universal. But let me add

inclusive and universal. But let me add that I will give a very feminist speech.

that I will give a very feminist speech.

that I will give a very feminist speech. >> Are you going to be urging that they

>> Are you going to be urging that they

>> Are you going to be urging that they elect is this going to be about electing

elect is this going to be about electing

elect is this going to be about electing a leader that is a woman? Okay. But not

a leader that is a woman? Okay. But not

a leader that is a woman? Okay. But not only that, also the need not to lose uh

only that, also the need not to lose uh

only that, also the need not to lose uh the the idea of feminism uh as one of

the the idea of feminism uh as one of

the the idea of feminism uh as one of the main drivers uh of the progress of

the main drivers uh of the progress of

the main drivers uh of the progress of our societies. I think that this is a

our societies. I think that this is a

our societies. I think that this is a battle, a political battle that we have

battle, a political battle that we have

battle, a political battle that we have to give because we are more and more uh

to give because we are more and more uh

to give because we are more and more uh witnessing, you know, a backlash on the

witnessing, you know, a backlash on the

witnessing, you know, a backlash on the fight against against gender uh

fight against against gender uh

fight against against gender uh inequality and and this is something

inequality and and this is something

inequality and and this is something that we need to to uh it has to be more

that we need to to uh it has to be more

that we need to to uh it has to be more present in the public debate especially

present in the public debate especially

present in the public debate especially when it comes to multilateral forum. So

when it comes to multilateral forum. So

when it comes to multilateral forum. So is forums such as the the general

is forums such as the the general

is forums such as the the general assembly. So it's not only about the

assembly. So it's not only about the

assembly. So it's not only about the appointment but also about the need of

appointment but also about the need of

appointment but also about the need of you know uh you know one one of the one

you know uh you know one one of the one

you know uh you know one one of the one of the uh uh laws that I'm I'm more

of the uh uh laws that I'm I'm more

of the uh uh laws that I'm I'm more proud to pass since I'm in office is

proud to pass since I'm in office is

proud to pass since I'm in office is is the law of votes no of I don't know

is the law of votes no of I don't know

is the law of votes no of I don't know how to say in English like parity the

how to say in English like parity the

how to say in English like parity the need to to have have

need to to have have

need to to have have >> uh work pay yeah exactly

>> uh work pay yeah exactly

>> uh work pay yeah exactly >> we don't have that we don't have that

>> we don't have that we don't have that

>> we don't have that we don't have that here or healthcare other than that

here or healthcare other than that

here or healthcare other than that though we're doing great [laughter]

though we're doing great [laughter]

though we're doing great [laughter] >> so I I think I think that feminism is is

>> so I I think I think that feminism is is

>> so I I think I think that feminism is is is a flag that we have to to to to stand

is a flag that we have to to to to stand

is a flag that we have to to to to stand against more more vocally and uh and uh

against more more vocally and uh and uh

against more more vocally and uh and uh in a in a more assertive way because

in a in a more assertive way because

in a in a more assertive way because it's a it's a matter of human rights.

it's a it's a matter of human rights.

it's a it's a matter of human rights. It's not only you know sometimes we say

It's not only you know sometimes we say

It's not only you know sometimes we say okay this is an ideological stuff. No,

okay this is an ideological stuff. No,

okay this is an ideological stuff. No, no, of course it's a political issue,

no, of course it's a political issue,

no, of course it's a political issue, but there's behind a human rights uh

but there's behind a human rights uh

but there's behind a human rights uh angle or content which has to be more

angle or content which has to be more

angle or content which has to be more visible.

visible.

visible. >> It feels like the momentum politically

>> It feels like the momentum politically

>> It feels like the momentum politically is moving in the opposite direction. So

is moving in the opposite direction. So

is moving in the opposite direction. So the the stands that you're taking are do

the the stands that you're taking are do

the the stands that you're taking are do you feel the pressure of delivering on a

you feel the pressure of delivering on a

you feel the pressure of delivering on a more progressive agenda given how the

more progressive agenda given how the

more progressive agenda given how the world is moving seemingly somewhat away

world is moving seemingly somewhat away

world is moving seemingly somewhat away from feminism, somewhat away from

from feminism, somewhat away from

from feminism, somewhat away from multilateralism, somewhat away from

multilateralism, somewhat away from

multilateralism, somewhat away from protecting the vulnerable in Gaza and in

protecting the vulnerable in Gaza and in

protecting the vulnerable in Gaza and in Ukraine and in these other uh regions.

Ukraine and in these other uh regions.

Ukraine and in these other uh regions. It feels like things are are

It feels like things are are

It feels like things are are shifting in that other direction away

shifting in that other direction away

shifting in that other direction away from even climate.

from even climate.

from even climate. >> But but let put it this way.

>> But but let put it this way.

>> But but let put it this way. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> First first is is is a matter of

>> First first is is is a matter of

>> First first is is is a matter of conviction. I think that these ideas

conviction. I think that these ideas

conviction. I think that these ideas these cult causes

these cult causes

these cult causes >> are the right side of history.

>> are the right side of history.

>> are the right side of history. >> Mhm. And talking about history, in

>> Mhm. And talking about history, in

>> Mhm. And talking about history, in in history you can find many uh uh

in history you can find many uh uh

in history you can find many uh uh occasions of backlash

occasions of backlash

occasions of backlash uh on the public debate on civil rights

uh on the public debate on civil rights

uh on the public debate on civil rights uh all these causes that we have been

uh all these causes that we have been

uh all these causes that we have been talking about but it is always

talking about but it is always

talking about but it is always temporary.

temporary.

temporary. I think that the the path that humanity

I think that the the path that humanity

I think that the the path that humanity follows uh over its history is is the

follows uh over its history is is the

follows uh over its history is is the path of progress and advance. So I think

path of progress and advance. So I think

path of progress and advance. So I think that we need to remain optimist about

that we need to remain optimist about

that we need to remain optimist about the future of humanity and of course we

the future of humanity and of course we

the future of humanity and of course we will suffer by clash periods as the one

will suffer by clash periods as the one

will suffer by clash periods as the one that we're suffering nowadays because

that we're suffering nowadays because

that we're suffering nowadays because there's this technology we need to do a

there's this technology we need to do a

there's this technology we need to do a lot of reforms very transcendental

lot of reforms very transcendental

lot of reforms very transcendental reforms that will um um let's say uh

reforms that will um um let's say uh

reforms that will um um let's say uh change the status quo but that doesn't

change the status quo but that doesn't

change the status quo but that doesn't mean that it could be better than it it

mean that it could be better than it it

mean that it could be better than it it is today. So I think that of course

is today. So I think that of course

is today. So I think that of course perhaps nowadays we are in a a minority

perhaps nowadays we are in a a minority

perhaps nowadays we are in a a minority but it doesn't mean that in the future

but it doesn't mean that in the future

but it doesn't mean that in the future you know people will support

you know people will support

you know people will support massively these ideas and these causes

massively these ideas and these causes

massively these ideas and these causes and that's the history of of humanity.

and that's the history of of humanity.

and that's the history of of humanity. Of course we have backlass periods but

Of course we have backlass periods but

Of course we have backlass periods but we will have of course

we will have of course

we will have of course >> persevere periods of exactly we have to

>> persevere periods of exactly we have to

>> persevere periods of exactly we have to persevere. Well, I I I know you've got a

persevere. Well, I I I know you've got a

persevere. Well, I I I know you've got a heart out because you've got a lot of

heart out because you've got a lot of

heart out because you've got a lot of other much more important meetings to

other much more important meetings to

other much more important meetings to take, but I can't I can't think of a

take, but I can't I can't think of a

take, but I can't I can't think of a better note to end on than that note of

better note to end on than that note of

better note to end on than that note of of optimism and also of conviction. And

of optimism and also of conviction. And

of optimism and also of conviction. And I really thank you for being here and uh

I really thank you for being here and uh

I really thank you for being here and uh I've been watching uh all the different

I've been watching uh all the different

I've been watching uh all the different ways in which you're trying to live

ways in which you're trying to live

ways in which you're trying to live those uh principles and I really

those uh principles and I really

those uh principles and I really appreciate them and appreciate you and

appreciate them and appreciate you and

appreciate them and appreciate you and and thank you so much for joining us and

and thank you so much for joining us and

and thank you so much for joining us and and talking with us today.

and talking with us today.

and talking with us today. >> It has been a pleasure. Thank you very

>> It has been a pleasure. Thank you very

>> It has been a pleasure. Thank you very much.

much.

much. >> Pedro Sanchez, the prime minister of

>> Pedro Sanchez, the prime minister of

>> Pedro Sanchez, the prime minister of Spain. Thank you so much, sir.

Spain. Thank you so much, sir.

Spain. Thank you so much, sir. >> Thank you. [music]

>> All right. Do you guys want to say it or

>> All right. Do you guys want to say it or

>> All right. Do you guys want to say it or do I have to say [laughter] it?

do I have to say [laughter] it?

do I have to say [laughter] it? >> You have to say it.

>> You have to say it.

>> You have to say it. >> Holy

>> Holy

>> Holy >> Wow. [laughter]

>> Wow. [laughter]

>> Wow. [laughter] >> Is that dude

>> Is that dude

>> Is that dude Hunkerelli

Hunkerelli

Hunkerelli >> Caliente?

>> Caliente?

>> Caliente? >> What? Holy. [laughter] So, for those of

>> What? Holy. [laughter] So, for those of

>> What? Holy. [laughter] So, for those of you who don't know, like generally when

you who don't know, like generally when

you who don't know, like generally when you have a guest at that level, it it's

you have a guest at that level, it it's

you have a guest at that level, it it's not like a normal podcast. Like what it

not like a normal podcast. Like what it

not like a normal podcast. Like what it does, you just you come up and it's

does, you just you come up and it's

does, you just you come up and it's somebody in their living room and you're

somebody in their living room and you're

somebody in their living room and you're in your living room and you're just

in your living room and you're just

in your living room and you're just shooting the in your pajamas. They

shooting the in your pajamas. They

shooting the in your pajamas. They have a standin that does all the the

have a standin that does all the the

have a standin that does all the the technical stuff. The standin, and I and

technical stuff. The standin, and I and

technical stuff. The standin, and I and I mean no disrespect. [laughter]

I mean no disrespect. [laughter]

I mean no disrespect. [laughter] I mean no disrespect to the standin, but

I mean no disrespect to the standin, but

I mean no disrespect to the standin, but Uncle Fester got nothing on the standin.

Uncle Fester got nothing on the standin.

Uncle Fester got nothing on the standin. [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] And then Johnny Cababalierro steps in

And then Johnny Cababalierro steps in

And then Johnny Cababalierro steps in and I was like, "What?"

and I was like, "What?"

and I was like, "What?" >> Wow. [laughter]

>> Wow. [laughter]

>> Wow. [laughter] >> And then we start talking. We're just

>> And then we start talking. We're just

>> And then we start talking. We're just shooting the

shooting the

shooting the >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And he's like, "Oh, yeah. My kids his

>> And he's like, "Oh, yeah. My kids his

>> And he's like, "Oh, yeah. My kids his kids are the same age as my kids."

kids are the same age as my kids."

kids are the same age as my kids." [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] And I'm like, "Wait, what?

And I'm like, "Wait, what?

And I'm like, "Wait, what? What is What is happening in Espa?"

What is What is happening in Espa?"

What is What is happening in Espa?" [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] >> That he's not he's he's young.

>> That he's not he's he's young.

>> That he's not he's he's young. Obviously, he's much younger than me,

Obviously, he's much younger than me,

Obviously, he's much younger than me, but but come on.

but but come on.

but but come on. >> Not much. I think he's 54. You're the

>> Not much. I think he's 54. You're the

>> Not much. I think he's 54. You're the same age. No, I'm kidding. [laughter]

same age. No, I'm kidding. [laughter]

same age. No, I'm kidding. [laughter] >> Are you me?

>> As soon as he sat down, the first thing

>> As soon as he sat down, the first thing

>> As soon as he sat down, the first thing I thought was Britney's going to be on

I thought was Britney's going to be on

I thought was Britney's going to be on Hinge going, "Is [laughter] this guy

Hinge going, "Is [laughter] this guy

Hinge going, "Is [laughter] this guy and can I match with this dude?

and can I match with this dude?

and can I match with this dude? >> Why don't I see him on here?"

>> Why don't I see him on here?"

>> Why don't I see him on here?" >> All right, let me keep keep swiping,

>> All right, let me keep keep swiping,

>> All right, let me keep keep swiping, baby. [laughter] Let's go.

baby. [laughter] Let's go.

baby. [laughter] Let's go. >> Got to turn on the Spanish language

>> Got to turn on the Spanish language

>> Got to turn on the Spanish language setting. And then

setting. And then

setting. And then >> I got to tell you though, to be able to

>> I got to tell you though, to be able to

>> I got to tell you though, to be able to conduct like these kinds of sort of

conduct like these kinds of sort of

conduct like these kinds of sort of >> discussions in a language that's clearly

>> discussions in a language that's clearly

>> discussions in a language that's clearly not as

not as

not as >> oh my god

>> oh my god

>> oh my god >> is

>> is

>> is it's qu it's impressive.

it's qu it's impressive.

it's qu it's impressive. >> Yeah, he's a very impressive man.

>> Yeah, he's a very impressive man.

>> Yeah, he's a very impressive man. >> I thought so. And uh a lonely man. Yeah,

>> I thought so. And uh a lonely man. Yeah,

>> I thought so. And uh a lonely man. Yeah, lonely definitely within you know the

lonely definitely within you know the

lonely definitely within you know the European governments within the global

European governments within the global

European governments within the global governments but very principled and I

governments but very principled and I

governments but very principled and I think that that's

think that that's

think that that's >> you know you see it in politicians here

>> you know you see it in politicians here

>> you know you see it in politicians here and he's obviously like the embodiment

and he's obviously like the embodiment

and he's obviously like the embodiment of it but it's really like when you have

of it but it's really like when you have

of it but it's really like when you have principles I think it makes the job a

principles I think it makes the job a

principles I think it makes the job a lot easier in a lot of ways

lot easier in a lot of ways

lot easier in a lot of ways >> when you have principles and you're 6'4

>> when you have principles and you're 6'4

>> when you have principles and you're 6'4 and tan

and tan

and tan >> and you can dunk

>> and you can dunk

>> and you can dunk >> son of A

>> son of A

>> son of A >> [laughter]

>> BUT IT IS THERE'S LIKE A I I think he

>> BUT IT IS THERE'S LIKE A I I think he

>> BUT IT IS THERE'S LIKE A I I think he has the quiet optimism

has the quiet optimism

has the quiet optimism >> of real belief. And I think the the

>> of real belief. And I think the the

>> of real belief. And I think the the interesting part to me is he was talking

interesting part to me is he was talking

interesting part to me is he was talking about, you know, look, he understands

about, you know, look, he understands

about, you know, look, he understands the political force of migration issues

the political force of migration issues

the political force of migration issues and he knows it obviously it can't be

and he knows it obviously it can't be

and he knows it obviously it can't be unfettered and it has to be growth in

unfettered and it has to be growth in

unfettered and it has to be growth in the right way and it has to be regulated

the right way and it has to be regulated

the right way and it has to be regulated and it has to be done with a pathway to

and it has to be done with a pathway to

and it has to be done with a pathway to something that has a a sturdy legal

something that has a a sturdy legal

something that has a a sturdy legal framework. But I think his point is it

framework. But I think his point is it

framework. But I think his point is it also is the path to prosperity.

also is the path to prosperity.

also is the path to prosperity. >> Yeah. It has been in his country. It's

>> Yeah. It has been in his country. It's

>> Yeah. It has been in his country. It's been borne out in as he would say in the

been borne out in as he would say in the

been borne out in as he would say in the facts. And I think that that's what's so

facts. And I think that that's what's so

facts. And I think that that's what's so frustrating about it too is that like

frustrating about it too is that like

frustrating about it too is that like you are still going to get attacked for

you are still going to get attacked for

you are still going to get attacked for the same things. Even when you have all

the same things. Even when you have all

the same things. Even when you have all of the facts in your favor, even if I

of the facts in your favor, even if I

of the facts in your favor, even if I mean we see it in the US too with

mean we see it in the US too with

mean we see it in the US too with politicians that just totally seed their

politicians that just totally seed their

politicians that just totally seed their ground on the issue, they still get

ground on the issue, they still get

ground on the issue, they still get attacked like they didn't. You could be

attacked like they didn't. You could be

attacked like they didn't. You could be totally right with the numbers. You're

totally right with the numbers. You're

totally right with the numbers. You're still going to get attacked like you're

still going to get attacked like you're

still going to get attacked like you're not. And I just don't know. I don't know

not. And I just don't know. I don't know

not. And I just don't know. I don't know how you how you make sense of that, but

how you how you make sense of that, but

how you how you make sense of that, but I don't think it's by losing your

I don't think it's by losing your

I don't think it's by losing your values.

values.

values. >> I think that the sense of it is people

>> I think that the sense of it is people

>> I think that the sense of it is people react to the chaos. So in Se

[laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] >> uh the chaos of that moment coalesed

>> uh the chaos of that moment coalesed

>> uh the chaos of that moment coalesed uh you know people against him. the

uh you know people against him. the

uh you know people against him. the chaos of our border situation. You know,

chaos of our border situation. You know,

chaos of our border situation. You know, >> yes,

>> yes,

>> yes, >> the United States immigration system is

>> the United States immigration system is

>> the United States immigration system is so chaotic and nonsensical

so chaotic and nonsensical

so chaotic and nonsensical >> that

>> that

>> that >> anybody that wants to demagogue that

>> anybody that wants to demagogue that

>> anybody that wants to demagogue that issue has a leg up.

issue has a leg up.

issue has a leg up. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Yes. But I think if you can demonstrate

>> Yes. But I think if you can demonstrate

>> Yes. But I think if you can demonstrate a thoughtful process to grow like

a thoughtful process to grow like

a thoughtful process to grow like countries can't absorb everybody

countries can't absorb everybody

countries can't absorb everybody haphazardly,

haphazardly,

haphazardly, but if you can demonstrate

but if you can demonstrate

but if you can demonstrate an orderly and reasonable

an orderly and reasonable

an orderly and reasonable non-kaotic process to harness the growth

non-kaotic process to harness the growth

non-kaotic process to harness the growth that immigration provides and minimize

that immigration provides and minimize

that immigration provides and minimize the chaos, you've got a shot. It's it's,

the chaos, you've got a shot. It's it's,

the chaos, you've got a shot. It's it's, you know, you got to thread it through

you know, you got to thread it through

you know, you got to thread it through the eye of a needle, but in this

the eye of a needle, but in this

the eye of a needle, but in this country, we don't even have a

country, we don't even have a

country, we don't even have a shot.

shot.

shot. >> No. And I mean, he tried to, you know,

>> No. And I mean, he tried to, you know,

>> No. And I mean, he tried to, you know, he did do that in his own country with

he did do that in his own country with

he did do that in his own country with uh sort of saying, you know, if you've

uh sort of saying, you know, if you've

uh sort of saying, you know, if you've already here and you've been here for a

already here and you've been here for a

already here and you've been here for a while, we're going to give you a clear

while, we're going to give you a clear

while, we're going to give you a clear pathway to citizenship that's expedited

pathway to citizenship that's expedited

pathway to citizenship that's expedited because we have this aging workforce.

because we have this aging workforce.

because we have this aging workforce. >> And it was mostly Spanish- speakaking.

>> And it was mostly Spanish- speakaking.

>> And it was mostly Spanish- speakaking. It was it was it wasn't the North

It was it was it wasn't the North

It was it was it wasn't the North African population that I think is is

African population that I think is is

African population that I think is is what's more controversial there,

what's more controversial there,

what's more controversial there, >> right? It was people that were you know

>> right? It was people that were you know

>> right? It was people that were you know had been there too. He didn't let

had been there too. He didn't let

had been there too. He didn't let anybody into the countries with those

anybody into the countries with those

anybody into the countries with those policies. But then you have this image

policies. But then you have this image

policies. But then you have this image on your screens of people you know

on your screens of people you know

on your screens of people you know flooding the coast and

flooding the coast and

flooding the coast and >> all of a sudden you lose any

>> all of a sudden you lose any

>> all of a sudden you lose any >> right

>> right

>> right >> any leverage that you've had even though

>> any leverage that you've had even though

>> any leverage that you've had even though your policy is not responsible for that.

your policy is not responsible for that.

your policy is not responsible for that. >> It's the it's the Willie Horton effect.

>> It's the it's the Willie Horton effect.

>> It's the it's the Willie Horton effect. It's I don't know if you guys remember,

It's I don't know if you guys remember,

It's I don't know if you guys remember, but it was, you know, it's we expect

but it was, you know, it's we expect

but it was, you know, it's we expect 100%.

100%.

100%. >> You have to be perfect.

>> You have to be perfect.

>> You have to be perfect. >> We have a system that demands 100%

>> We have a system that demands 100%

>> We have a system that demands 100% perfection, but has no ability to

perfection, but has no ability to

perfection, but has no ability to discern the difference. We really don't.

discern the difference. We really don't.

discern the difference. We really don't. Um, it's a difficult one, but I I I

Um, it's a difficult one, but I I I

Um, it's a difficult one, but I I I admired him and I I was sort of like on

admired him and I I was sort of like on

admired him and I I was sort of like on a day like today after sitting and and

a day like today after sitting and and

a day like today after sitting and and listening to the Trump speech, him being

listening to the Trump speech, him being

listening to the Trump speech, him being able to just like wander over. Let me

able to just like wander over. Let me

able to just like wander over. Let me ask you a question. How do you think he

ask you a question. How do you think he

ask you a question. How do you think he got over to the studio? I'm going to

got over to the studio? I'm going to

got over to the studio? I'm going to take a guess. [laughter] He He got out

take a guess. [laughter] He He got out

take a guess. [laughter] He He got out of there and he surfed. My guess is

of there and he surfed. My guess is

of there and he surfed. My guess is >> underneath the suit, wet suit. I think

>> underneath the suit, wet suit. I think

>> underneath the suit, wet suit. I think he got on one of the It might have been

he got on one of the It might have been

he got on one of the It might have been a

a

a >> hoverboard Kent situation where he

>> hoverboard Kent situation where he

>> hoverboard Kent situation where he [clears throat]

[clears throat]

[clears throat] he's always got it on.

he's always got it on.

he's always got it on. >> Yes. [laughter]

>> Yes. [laughter]

>> Yes. [laughter] Ripped it off. Yeah.

Ripped it off. Yeah.

Ripped it off. Yeah. >> And hovered his way over.

>> And hovered his way over.

>> And hovered his way over. >> He did make good time. And that's very

>> He did make good time. And that's very

>> He did make good time. And that's very difficult on a week like this in New

difficult on a week like this in New

difficult on a week like this in New York City.

York City.

York City. >> And then climbed up the side of the

>> And then climbed up the side of the

>> And then climbed up the side of the building.

building.

building. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Who his hands with only little suction

>> Who his hands with only little suction

>> Who his hands with only little suction cups. [laughter]

cups. [laughter]

cups. [laughter] >> I really don't think it takes much for

>> I really don't think it takes much for

>> I really don't think it takes much for him to stop traffic.

him to stop traffic.

him to stop traffic. It's I thought it was a very unfort when

It's I thought it was a very unfort when

It's I thought it was a very unfort when he sat down I was just like what is no

he sat down I was just like what is no

he sat down I was just like what is no [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] this is this is not correct

this is this is not correct

this is this is not correct >> bring the stand in back

>> bring the stand in back

>> bring the stand in back >> bring you know what bring the other guy

>> bring you know what bring the other guy

>> bring you know what bring the other guy back

back

back >> I can't focus

>> I can't focus

>> I can't focus >> I can I can give that other guy a piece

>> I can I can give that other guy a piece

>> I can I can give that other guy a piece of my mind but

of my mind but

of my mind but >> yeah if you're listening on audio this

>> yeah if you're listening on audio this

>> yeah if you're listening on audio this week we recommend you head to the

week we recommend you head to the

week we recommend you head to the YouTube check out our socials

YouTube check out our socials

YouTube check out our socials >> oh that's going to be that's going to be

>> oh that's going to be that's going to be

>> oh that's going to be that's going to be a YouTube sensation [laughter]

a YouTube sensation [laughter]

a YouTube sensation [laughter] >> and then here's the problem I'm going to

>> and then here's the problem I'm going to

>> and then here's the problem I'm going to be in the shot half the time so it's

be in the shot half the time so it's

be in the shot half the time so it's it's going to be literally handsome mold

it's going to be literally handsome mold

it's going to be literally handsome mold Dune and then Johnny Old T [laughter]

Dune and then Johnny Old T [laughter]

Dune and then Johnny Old T [laughter] like I look like the guy in those

like I look like the guy in those

like I look like the guy in those commercials where it's like and you look

commercials where it's like and you look

commercials where it's like and you look comfortable you know like oh right okay

comfortable you know like oh right okay

comfortable you know like oh right okay next time I'll I'll pol it Britney but

next time I'll I'll pol it Britney but

next time I'll I'll pol it Britney but what what do the what do the kids want

what what do the what do the kids want

what what do the what do the kids want to know from us uh on this on this fine

to know from us uh on this on this fine

to know from us uh on this on this fine day?

day?

day? >> Okay, John, this is a two-parter.

>> Okay, John, this is a two-parter.

>> Okay, John, this is a two-parter. >> What?

>> What?

>> What? Uh, one, do you think Trump should ask

Uh, one, do you think Trump should ask

Uh, one, do you think Trump should ask Mom Donnie for help getting the

Mom Donnie for help getting the

Mom Donnie for help getting the scaffolding down at the Kennedy Center?

scaffolding down at the Kennedy Center?

scaffolding down at the Kennedy Center? >> That's hilarious.

>> That's hilarious.

>> That's hilarious. >> And two, should Trump just put darfs up

>> And two, should Trump just put darfs up

>> And two, should Trump just put darfs up around all of his failures?

around all of his failures?

around all of his failures? >> That's hilarious. So, uh, what they're

>> That's hilarious. So, uh, what they're

>> That's hilarious. So, uh, what they're referring to in part one of the the

referring to in part one of the the

referring to in part one of the the two-parter is one of the first things

two-parter is one of the first things

two-parter is one of the first things Mom Donnie did, brilliant, by the way,

Mom Donnie did, brilliant, by the way,

Mom Donnie did, brilliant, by the way, because the whole idea of, you know, the

because the whole idea of, you know, the

because the whole idea of, you know, the socialist communist Islamist maniac

socialist communist Islamist maniac

socialist communist Islamist maniac taking over New York City is similar to

taking over New York City is similar to

taking over New York City is similar to like when Obama took over, they were

like when Obama took over, they were

like when Obama took over, they were like, "Black people now can do whatever

like, "Black people now can do whatever

like, "Black people now can do whatever they want." Like that it was going to be

they want." Like that it was going to be

they want." Like that it was going to be this chaotic system. And the first thing

this chaotic system. And the first thing

this chaotic system. And the first thing he did is like, "Why is there so much

he did is like, "Why is there so much

he did is like, "Why is there so much scaffolding here? Let's do the

scaffolding here? Let's do the

scaffolding here? Let's do the potholes in the scaffolding." Yeah.

potholes in the scaffolding." Yeah.

potholes in the scaffolding." Yeah. >> And everybody was like, I didn't even

>> And everybody was like, I didn't even

>> And everybody was like, I didn't even know buildings had fronts. [laughter]

know buildings had fronts. [laughter]

know buildings had fronts. [laughter] >> It's true. Yeah. There's And it stays up

>> It's true. Yeah. There's And it stays up

>> It's true. Yeah. There's And it stays up for years and years and there's like

for years and years and there's like

for years and years and there's like there's no rhyme or reason why.

there's no rhyme or reason why.

there's no rhyme or reason why. >> Right.

>> Right.

>> Right. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And it's very difficult for people that,

>> And it's very difficult for people that,

>> And it's very difficult for people that, you know, don't get around the same way.

you know, don't get around the same way.

you know, don't get around the same way. >> And half the time you walking around New

>> And half the time you walking around New

>> And half the time you walking around New York City and you're thinking, did they

York City and you're thinking, did they

York City and you're thinking, did they just build these buildings out of

just build these buildings out of

just build these buildings out of netting? Netting and like pipes. Is that

netting? Netting and like pipes. Is that

netting? Netting and like pipes. Is that what New York City is? become a

what New York City is? become a

what New York City is? become a rainstorm and you're begging for it. So

rainstorm and you're begging for it. So

rainstorm and you're begging for it. So the best

the best

the best >> and Trump I am the Trump as so many

>> and Trump I am the Trump as so many

>> and Trump I am the Trump as so many things with Trump you just you can't

things with Trump you just you can't

things with Trump you just you can't even imagine that just one of these

even imagine that just one of these

even imagine that just one of these one of these scandals or one of these uh

one of these scandals or one of these uh

one of these scandals or one of these uh ego enemas that he takes would ruin his

ego enemas that he takes would ruin his

ego enemas that he takes would ruin his political career. Somebody suggesting

political career. Somebody suggesting

political career. Somebody suggesting like if I don't get to etch my name on

like if I don't get to etch my name on

like if I don't get to etch my name on the building, I'm going to demolish it

the building, I'm going to demolish it

the building, I'm going to demolish it and then I'm going to put up a triumphal

and then I'm going to put up a triumphal

and then I'm going to put up a triumphal arch and fill it with weaponry. Like

arch and fill it with weaponry. Like

arch and fill it with weaponry. Like just just one of those ideas

just just one of those ideas

just just one of those ideas >> would have the country going,

>> would have the country going,

>> would have the country going, >> "Okay, can we just declare this man

>> "Okay, can we just declare this man

>> "Okay, can we just declare this man incompetent and and move on?" Where?

incompetent and and move on?" Where?

incompetent and and move on?" Where? Let's get Let's get Kevin Klein from

Let's get Let's get Kevin Klein from

Let's get Let's get Kevin Klein from Dave to just go in there and uh I'm

Dave to just go in there and uh I'm

Dave to just go in there and uh I'm really believing that maybe the reason

really believing that maybe the reason

really believing that maybe the reason why he's our country up so bad

why he's our country up so bad

why he's our country up so bad is that we haven't allowed him to etch

is that we haven't allowed him to etch

is that we haven't allowed him to etch his name on it.

his name on it.

his name on it. >> And maybe if we just did that, if we

>> And maybe if we just did that, if we

>> And maybe if we just did that, if we just just gave into it,

just just gave into it,

just just gave into it, >> he would he would take the the

>> he would he would take the the

>> he would he would take the the metaphorical tarp down from the whole

metaphorical tarp down from the whole

metaphorical tarp down from the whole country and we could all flourish. Let's

country and we could all flourish. Let's

country and we could all flourish. Let's just let him.

just let him.

just let him. >> It feels like giving the baby the candy

>> It feels like giving the baby the candy

>> It feels like giving the baby the candy though. A little bit.

though. A little bit.

though. A little bit. >> He shuts up the baby.

>> He shuts up the baby.

>> He shuts up the baby. >> Thank you. We can always take it down

>> Thank you. We can always take it down

>> Thank you. We can always take it down when he's done. The United States of

when he's done. The United States of

when he's done. The United States of America. Trump. Fine. The Trump United

America. Trump. Fine. The Trump United

America. Trump. Fine. The Trump United States of America. Get Let him make the

States of America. Get Let him make the

States of America. Get Let him make the coins. Let him make the flags.

coins. Let him make the flags.

coins. Let him make the flags. >> And then maybe he'd treat us a little

>> And then maybe he'd treat us a little

>> And then maybe he'd treat us a little better.

better.

better. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. He is very much like if I can't

>> Yeah. He is very much like if I can't

>> Yeah. He is very much like if I can't have it, no one can. And it's

have it, no one can. And it's

have it, no one can. And it's >> Yeah. It makes me a little concerned

>> Yeah. It makes me a little concerned

>> Yeah. It makes me a little concerned about the future, but

about the future, but

about the future, but >> I'm sure it'll be fine. He's never given

>> I'm sure it'll be fine. He's never given

>> I'm sure it'll be fine. He's never given us any indication [laughter]

us any indication [laughter]

us any indication [laughter] that once he's voted out, he'll leave

that once he's voted out, he'll leave

that once he's voted out, he'll leave peacefully, so I I don't know why you

peacefully, so I I don't know why you

peacefully, so I I don't know why you would be concerned, you know.

would be concerned, you know.

would be concerned, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Never mind. I'll tamp down

>> Yeah. Yeah. Never mind. I'll tamp down

>> Yeah. Yeah. Never mind. I'll tamp down those peers. I mean, this week he had a

those peers. I mean, this week he had a

those peers. I mean, this week he had a a big one with Trump TV.

a big one with Trump TV.

a big one with Trump TV. >> Oh god. I You know, I haven't I thought

>> Oh god. I You know, I haven't I thought

>> Oh god. I You know, I haven't I thought that's what we've been watching the

that's what we've been watching the

that's what we've been watching the whole time,

whole time,

whole time, >> right?

>> right?

>> right? >> Is that new?

>> Is that new?

>> Is that new? >> 24/7. Yes. Just launched on YouTube.

>> 24/7. Yes. Just launched on YouTube.

>> 24/7. Yes. Just launched on YouTube. This motherfucker's on TV. All it is is

This motherfucker's on TV. All it is is

This motherfucker's on TV. All it is is it is nothing but Trump. People forget

it is nothing but Trump. People forget

it is nothing but Trump. People forget that in the old days of presidents Obama

that in the old days of presidents Obama

that in the old days of presidents Obama and Biden and all that like they weren't

and Biden and all that like they weren't

and Biden and all that like they weren't on uh like a car alarm when you're

on uh like a car alarm when you're

on uh like a car alarm when you're trying to sleep like it wasn't that

trying to sleep like it wasn't that

trying to sleep like it wasn't that incessant rhythmic. Other presidents

incessant rhythmic. Other presidents

incessant rhythmic. Other presidents like didn't always

like didn't always

like didn't always >> dominate all the airwaves. Like we're

>> dominate all the airwaves. Like we're

>> dominate all the airwaves. Like we're all living Trump TV. Mhm.

all living Trump TV. Mhm.

all living Trump TV. Mhm. >> Why do you need another Trump TV? It's

>> Why do you need another Trump TV? It's

>> Why do you need another Trump TV? It's It's what it is.

It's what it is.

It's what it is. >> Yes. And do you think the FCC is going

>> Yes. And do you think the FCC is going

>> Yes. And do you think the FCC is going to police Trump TV?

to police Trump TV?

to police Trump TV? [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Of course.

>> Of course.

>> Of course. >> Because they are an independent agency.

>> Because they are an independent agency.

>> Because they are an independent agency. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> And independent agencies.

>> And independent agencies.

>> And independent agencies. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Regulate in a manner that is befitting

>> Regulate in a manner that is befitting

>> Regulate in a manner that is befitting of their mandate.

of their mandate.

of their mandate. >> Yeah. Yeah, I look forward to them

>> Yeah. Yeah, I look forward to them

>> Yeah. Yeah, I look forward to them enforcing the equal time measure with

enforcing the equal time measure with

enforcing the equal time measure with Trump TV, of course.

Trump TV, of course.

Trump TV, of course. >> Although, I don't even know. Is Trump TV

>> Although, I don't even know. Is Trump TV

>> Although, I don't even know. Is Trump TV I think it might just be a feed. I don't

I think it might just be a feed. I don't

I think it might just be a feed. I don't even think

even think

even think >> I think it's like existed for forever.

>> I think it's like existed for forever.

>> I think it's like existed for forever. Like the White House always had like a

Like the White House always had like a

Like the White House always had like a live feed of their events and stuff. So,

live feed of their events and stuff. So,

live feed of their events and stuff. So, it's possibly a rebrand, but I'll have

it's possibly a rebrand, but I'll have

it's possibly a rebrand, but I'll have to look into it a little more.

to look into it a little more.

to look into it a little more. >> The rebrand is just Did you see the

>> The rebrand is just Did you see the

>> The rebrand is just Did you see the social video? It just cut together like

social video? It just cut together like

social video? It just cut together like of parks and wreck and the office and

of parks and wreck and the office and

of parks and wreck and the office and all this stuff announcing Trump TV and

all this stuff announcing Trump TV and

all this stuff announcing Trump TV and people were just like this is so many

people were just like this is so many

people were just like this is so many lawsuits waiting to happen. [laughter]

lawsuits waiting to happen. [laughter]

lawsuits waiting to happen. [laughter] >> I know. But that's he's a troll at

>> I know. But that's he's a troll at

>> I know. But that's he's a troll at heart. That's what I mean. If we just

heart. That's what I mean. If we just

heart. That's what I mean. If we just let him put his name on the country,

let him put his name on the country,

let him put his name on the country, will he stop trolling us? Will

will he stop trolling us? Will

will he stop trolling us? Will he just leave us alone for a moment?

he just leave us alone for a moment?

he just leave us alone for a moment? >> Just I I just want

>> Just I I just want

>> Just I I just want >> I just got to We got to get through

>> I just got to We got to get through

>> I just got to We got to get through these two and a half.

these two and a half.

these two and a half. >> Yes. All right.

>> Yes. All right.

>> Yes. All right. >> That's all it is. Yeah. What's

>> That's all it is. Yeah. What's

>> That's all it is. Yeah. What's >> next question? All right.

>> next question? All right.

>> next question? All right. >> Uh, John, does it concern you that

>> Uh, John, does it concern you that

>> Uh, John, does it concern you that Melania Trump works less days than you?

Melania Trump works less days than you?

Melania Trump works less days than you? [laughter]

[laughter]

[laughter] >> Well, that's just that. Can I say this?

>> Well, that's just that. Can I say this?

>> Well, that's just that. Can I say this? That's just hurtful.

That's just hurtful.

That's just hurtful. >> It doesn't concern me. She's younger

>> It doesn't concern me. She's younger

>> It doesn't concern me. She's younger than me. Oh, no. She work You say she

than me. Oh, no. She work You say she

than me. Oh, no. She work You say she works less days than me.

works less days than me.

works less days than me. >> She works less days than you,

>> She works less days than you,

>> She works less days than you, apparently.

apparently.

apparently. >> What is she going in now? Once every two

>> What is she going in now? Once every two

>> What is she going in now? Once every two weeks.

weeks.

weeks. >> If Where is she? I think the last time

>> If Where is she? I think the last time

>> If Where is she? I think the last time she showed up was after the Natalie Harp

she showed up was after the Natalie Harp

she showed up was after the Natalie Harp stuff was coming out and she was like,

stuff was coming out and she was like,

stuff was coming out and she was like, "Well, I got to show face." [laughter]

"Well, I got to show face." [laughter]

"Well, I got to show face." [laughter] >> Yeah. But by the way, would you go

>> Yeah. But by the way, would you go

>> Yeah. But by the way, would you go there? It's a construction site. Why

there? It's a construction site. Why

there? It's a construction site. Why would you go there? Why would you? You

would you go there? Why would you? You

would you go there? Why would you? You know where I'd like to live? In that

know where I'd like to live? In that

know where I'd like to live? In that place where they just uh demolished and

place where they just uh demolished and

place where they just uh demolished and there's like a 40ft sinkhole right

there's like a 40ft sinkhole right

there's like a 40ft sinkhole right outside of my thing. Like it is going

outside of my thing. Like it is going

outside of my thing. Like it is going back to the New York thing. It's like

back to the New York thing. It's like

back to the New York thing. It's like the scaffolding is up and the

the scaffolding is up and the

the scaffolding is up and the construction project is going on. And

construction project is going on. And

construction project is going on. And I'm sure she's like, I got a perfectly

I'm sure she's like, I got a perfectly

I'm sure she's like, I got a perfectly nice house down in Florida.

nice house down in Florida.

nice house down in Florida. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And I don't have to deal with this guy.

>> And I don't have to deal with this guy.

>> And I don't have to deal with this guy. >> Yes. That would be the number one

>> Yes. That would be the number one

>> Yes. That would be the number one selling point. [laughter]

selling point. [laughter]

selling point. [laughter] >> But you know what? I don't even consider

>> But you know what? I don't even consider

>> But you know what? I don't even consider it that she works because any day you

it that she works because any day you

it that she works because any day you get to be with Donald Trump

get to be with Donald Trump

get to be with Donald Trump >> when you love what you do.

>> when you love what you do.

>> when you love what you do. >> I'm sure. Yeah. So, I wouldn't even say

>> I'm sure. Yeah. So, I wouldn't even say

>> I'm sure. Yeah. So, I wouldn't even say this. I you know it's I think it's a

this. I you know it's I think it's a

this. I you know it's I think it's a misnomer to say Melania Trump doesn't

misnomer to say Melania Trump doesn't

misnomer to say Melania Trump doesn't work because I think being married to

work because I think being married to

work because I think being married to that dude is

that dude is

that dude is I'm sorry but that's like what you hear

I'm sorry but that's like what you hear

I'm sorry but that's like what you hear about like how they put finance bros

about like how they put finance bros

about like how they put finance bros through those training programs where

through those training programs where

through those training programs where they're like it's 160 hours a week. Uh

they're like it's 160 hours a week. Uh

they're like it's 160 hours a week. Uh >> care work is work. [laughter]

>> care work is work. [laughter]

>> care work is work. [laughter] >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Married to that dude is that's that's

>> Married to that dude is that's that's

>> Married to that dude is that's that's the most grueling job in America.

the most grueling job in America.

the most grueling job in America. That'll wear anybody down. No wonder why

That'll wear anybody down. No wonder why

That'll wear anybody down. No wonder why she always looks angry though.

she always looks angry though.

she always looks angry though. >> Does she always Yeah. I don't even I

>> Does she always Yeah. I don't even I

>> Does she always Yeah. I don't even I feel bad. I I don't even know why. I

feel bad. I I don't even know why. I

feel bad. I I don't even know why. I just feel like Oh god, what a No, you

just feel like Oh god, what a No, you

just feel like Oh god, what a No, you know what? She knew what she was signing

know what? She knew what she was signing

know what? She knew what she was signing up for. So

up for. So

up for. So >> she's got quite a payday coming.

>> she's got quite a payday coming.

>> she's got quite a payday coming. it. I take I take back my empathy.

it. I take I take back my empathy.

it. I take I take back my empathy. My empathy is now gone.

My empathy is now gone.

My empathy is now gone. >> And I am, you know, I used to have her

>> And I am, you know, I used to have her

>> And I am, you know, I used to have her beautiful hat highlighted by a sconce.

beautiful hat highlighted by a sconce.

beautiful hat highlighted by a sconce. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. >> In an area of uh, you know, the house to

>> In an area of uh, you know, the house to

>> In an area of uh, you know, the house to really show it off. I'm taking it down.

really show it off. I'm taking it down.

really show it off. I'm taking it down. >> Empathy gone.

>> Empathy gone.

>> Empathy gone. >> That's that.

>> That's that.

>> That's that. >> All right. Anymore?

>> All right. Anymore?

>> All right. Anymore? >> That's it for this week.

>> That's it for this week.

>> That's it for this week. >> Son of a gun. All right, kids. Uh, once

>> Son of a gun. All right, kids. Uh, once

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