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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,697 --> 00:00:03,394 WILLIAM SHATNER: Powerful prophets 2 00:00:03,525 --> 00:00:05,048 that can predict the fall of empires. 3 00:00:05,179 --> 00:00:07,529 [bomb whistling, explosion] 4 00:00:07,659 --> 00:00:12,099 Disturbing dreams... that envision deadly crimes. 5 00:00:12,229 --> 00:00:14,666 And nightmare visions from which victims... 6 00:00:14,797 --> 00:00:17,713 never wake up. 7 00:00:19,932 --> 00:00:22,935 Can people really see the future? 8 00:00:23,066 --> 00:00:26,678 Receive messages from across time and space? 9 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:31,074 For centuries, seers and prophets have come forward 10 00:00:31,205 --> 00:00:34,686 offering dramatic visions of mankind's destiny. 11 00:00:34,817 --> 00:00:36,819 But what happens 12 00:00:36,949 --> 00:00:40,475 when the predictions turn... deadly? 13 00:00:40,605 --> 00:00:44,305 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 14 00:00:44,435 --> 00:00:46,307 ♪ 15 00:01:03,019 --> 00:01:06,675 Craig Hamilton-Parker, an English psychic and medium, 16 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:09,330 posts a series of prophecies on his website-- 17 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:14,030 some of them quite ominous and even oddly disturbing. 18 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:16,424 I've been a psychic medium all my life, 19 00:01:16,554 --> 00:01:19,296 in touch with the spirit world, and sometimes make predictions. 20 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:25,085 And in 2015, I decided to put some predictions on my website. 21 00:01:25,215 --> 00:01:27,130 I said that there'd be a massive earthquake in Japan. 22 00:01:27,261 --> 00:01:31,352 I wrote that Brexit would happen, and at the time, 23 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:33,658 everybody was saying, "It's never gonna happen. 24 00:01:33,789 --> 00:01:35,617 Everybody's gonna vote to remain. There's no chance." 25 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:39,055 I saw terrorist attacks in Nice in my vision, 26 00:01:39,186 --> 00:01:41,710 and I put those in my predictions. 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,929 Sometimes I don't like telling the future. 28 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:45,931 SHATNER: Within a year, 29 00:01:46,062 --> 00:01:49,413 the predictions Craig made came surprisingly, 30 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:53,200 and in some cases frighteningly, true. 31 00:01:53,330 --> 00:01:56,681 On April 16, 2016, 32 00:01:56,812 --> 00:02:00,816 Kumamoto, Japan was shaken by a 7.0 magnitude earthquake. 33 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:05,342 50 people were killed, and more than 3,000 people injured. 34 00:02:05,473 --> 00:02:07,736 And then, on June 23, 35 00:02:07,866 --> 00:02:09,999 over half of Great Britain voted to approve Brexit 36 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,349 and leave the European Union. 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,917 Finally, on July 14, 38 00:02:15,047 --> 00:02:17,789 a 19-ton truck driven by a terrorist plowed 39 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,096 through a crowded market in Nice, France, 40 00:02:20,227 --> 00:02:24,013 killing 86 people and injuring over 400. 41 00:02:24,144 --> 00:02:27,190 Of course, not all of Craig's prophecies ended up happening. 42 00:02:27,321 --> 00:02:29,105 For instance, he'd predicted 43 00:02:29,236 --> 00:02:32,021 that a gas attack would take place in a European city, 44 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:35,198 but there was no such attack in Europe that year. 45 00:02:35,329 --> 00:02:38,419 But the fact that he got three out of four predictions right 46 00:02:38,549 --> 00:02:41,335 led many to believe that his uncanny ability 47 00:02:41,465 --> 00:02:46,078 to see the future couldn't have been a mere fluke. 48 00:02:46,209 --> 00:02:48,951 The natural question that people have is, 49 00:02:49,081 --> 00:02:51,171 "Where does a priction come from? 50 00:02:51,301 --> 00:02:54,261 Where is the so-called psychic getting this information from?" 51 00:02:54,391 --> 00:02:56,872 The first explanation we go to is 52 00:02:57,002 --> 00:02:58,221 that it's some sort of psychosis, 53 00:02:58,352 --> 00:02:59,657 but that doesn't really hold up 54 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:01,659 because you can't turn crazy on and off. 55 00:03:01,790 --> 00:03:04,184 And the fact is, if you meet most of these folk, 56 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:06,098 and I've met plenty of them, 57 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:08,971 they're perfectly ordinary, everyday functioning people. 58 00:03:09,101 --> 00:03:10,973 SHATNER: According to Craig, 59 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:13,062 his ability to see events before they happen 60 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,804 is one he was born with. 61 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:18,459 Since childhood, he surprised his family 62 00:03:18,589 --> 00:03:21,636 with what he called "flashes of the future," 63 00:03:21,766 --> 00:03:27,468 glimpses of things that hadn't yet come to pass, but often did. 64 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:29,600 And in his early twenties, he decided 65 00:03:29,731 --> 00:03:32,342 to make a journey to India, where he studied the writings 66 00:03:32,473 --> 00:03:36,564 of ancient oracles, and honed his raw talent. 67 00:03:36,694 --> 00:03:38,653 HAMILTON-PARKER: So I became very interested 68 00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:41,351 in this idea that there's an ancient tradition 69 00:03:41,482 --> 00:03:43,745 that goes back right through time 70 00:03:43,875 --> 00:03:47,531 over many, many centuries, maybe back tens of thousands of years. 71 00:03:47,662 --> 00:03:50,621 For me, seeing the future is a bit like 72 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:53,189 a dream experience in many respects. 73 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,846 I use an old technique from India called "Trataka," 74 00:03:57,976 --> 00:04:01,153 which, I look into a candle, basically. 75 00:04:01,284 --> 00:04:03,547 You go into a sort of a state of gazing, 76 00:04:03,678 --> 00:04:05,549 and then move the image of that candle 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,334 into the middle of what we call "the third eye." 78 00:04:07,464 --> 00:04:09,292 And you'll see it as an afterimage 79 00:04:09,423 --> 00:04:11,163 on the back of the eye, 80 00:04:11,294 --> 00:04:13,383 where all these visions will appear. 81 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:17,779 I see things-- things I know, things I don't know. 82 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:20,782 It's like the universe knows better than I do. 83 00:04:20,912 --> 00:04:22,697 It gave me this information, 84 00:04:22,827 --> 00:04:25,003 and it's kind of my duty to put it out there. 85 00:04:25,134 --> 00:04:27,049 SHATNER: In the fall of 2016, 86 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,051 another of Craig's prophecies-- 87 00:04:29,181 --> 00:04:31,880 this time about the U.S. presidential election-- 88 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:33,882 came to pass. 89 00:04:34,012 --> 00:04:35,318 HAMILTON-PARKER: I kept getting glimpses of 90 00:04:35,449 --> 00:04:37,277 this strange character, you know. 91 00:04:37,407 --> 00:04:39,409 And I thought, "Who on Earth is this?" 92 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:41,759 And then suddenly, 93 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:44,284 Trump announces himself in the primaries, 94 00:04:44,414 --> 00:04:46,503 and then I knew that's what I'd been seeing. 95 00:04:46,634 --> 00:04:48,244 That was this strange figure 96 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:50,899 that kept coming into my meditations 97 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:53,684 and interrupting, uh, my thoughts. 98 00:04:53,815 --> 00:04:57,209 Clearly, for me, Trump was gonna be president, 99 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:59,429 even though everybody at this time was saying, 100 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,866 "He don't stand a chance of ever being president." 101 00:05:01,997 --> 00:05:04,652 But the unconscious seemed to know better. 102 00:05:06,828 --> 00:05:08,786 SHATNER: But how is Craig actually getting these messages 103 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:10,527 about the future? 104 00:05:10,658 --> 00:05:14,401 Are they really coming from his unconscious mind? 105 00:05:14,531 --> 00:05:17,142 Precognition is, um, the scientific term 106 00:05:17,273 --> 00:05:19,057 for things like premonitions. 107 00:05:19,188 --> 00:05:21,364 And it's getting accurate information 108 00:05:21,495 --> 00:05:24,498 about a future event that you didn't cause. 109 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:27,022 MICHIO KAKU: We think that the brain, 110 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:29,938 no matter how complicated and non-linear it is, 111 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:32,201 is still something that could be reduced down 112 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:35,030 to the laws of physics. 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,338 Now that doesn't mean that the brain can't imagine the future. 114 00:05:38,468 --> 00:05:43,604 We are genetically hardwired to have premonitions. 115 00:05:43,734 --> 00:05:45,170 We can't stop it. 116 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:47,129 It's part of our makeup. 117 00:05:47,259 --> 00:05:49,653 ANNE CLEARY: The feeling of premonition 118 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:51,655 might be an example 119 00:05:51,786 --> 00:05:54,745 of how our memories orient us toward the future. 120 00:05:54,876 --> 00:05:56,530 [tires squealing, thud] 121 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:59,968 So, current thinking among memory researchers is 122 00:06:00,098 --> 00:06:03,014 that our memories are not useful to us so much 123 00:06:03,145 --> 00:06:06,844 for their ability to enable us to recollect the past 124 00:06:06,975 --> 00:06:09,586 as they are useful to us for enabling us 125 00:06:09,717 --> 00:06:12,197 to navigate and predict the future. 126 00:06:12,328 --> 00:06:15,984 And from that perspective, the idea that déjà vu, 127 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:18,421 which might result from a memory process, 128 00:06:18,552 --> 00:06:22,164 might be accompanied by feelings of premonition, fits that. 129 00:06:24,209 --> 00:06:26,168 HOROWITZ: If somebody has 130 00:06:26,298 --> 00:06:29,345 an authentic intuitive or insightful gift-- 131 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:32,566 and I do think such things exist-- 132 00:06:32,696 --> 00:06:35,133 I think it's a kind of ESP 133 00:06:35,264 --> 00:06:39,181 in which certain individuals are able to glean information 134 00:06:39,311 --> 00:06:41,009 in anomalous ways, 135 00:06:41,139 --> 00:06:44,055 in ways that go beyond our ordinary five senses. 136 00:06:44,186 --> 00:06:47,624 NICK POPE: The Internet, TV talk shows, 137 00:06:47,755 --> 00:06:49,713 and the best-seller lists 138 00:06:49,844 --> 00:06:52,194 are full of prophets and prognosticators 139 00:06:52,324 --> 00:06:55,676 claiming to be able to divine the future. 140 00:06:55,806 --> 00:06:57,939 And in a number of these cases, 141 00:06:58,069 --> 00:07:00,115 they really seem to be able to do it. 142 00:07:00,245 --> 00:07:02,813 SHATNER: If it's true 143 00:07:02,944 --> 00:07:05,903 that there are such things as real psychics, 144 00:07:06,034 --> 00:07:09,864 then where exactly does their incredible gift come from, 145 00:07:09,994 --> 00:07:12,649 and how can we better understand it? 146 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:15,086 According to some researchers, 147 00:07:15,217 --> 00:07:18,176 the explanation doesn't lie in the distant future, 148 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:22,224 but rather, the ancient past. 149 00:07:22,354 --> 00:07:24,966 RABBI ARIEL BAR TZADOK: The Bible makes it very clear 150 00:07:25,096 --> 00:07:27,055 that biblical prophets 151 00:07:27,185 --> 00:07:30,450 were not arbitrary individuals, men or women, 152 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:33,627 who were just as if minding their own business, 153 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:35,629 and then God chose them. 154 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:37,457 It wasn't like that at all. 155 00:07:37,587 --> 00:07:40,372 It was an internal experience 156 00:07:40,503 --> 00:07:43,419 that the Bible calls a dream or a vision. 157 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:49,077 If you do not learn how to understand dreams, 158 00:07:49,207 --> 00:07:51,732 you will never understand their message. 159 00:07:51,862 --> 00:07:55,779 It is very clearly said in the Bible 160 00:07:55,910 --> 00:07:59,174 that prophets had to go to school 161 00:07:59,304 --> 00:08:03,308 to learn how to experience 162 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:09,140 and interpret the spiritual message which we call prophecy. 163 00:08:09,271 --> 00:08:14,363 And the biblical teachings of prophecy were not limited 164 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:18,541 to those of the religious world. 165 00:08:18,672 --> 00:08:21,936 Many people have been trained in these techniques, 166 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:23,720 and we don't even realize it. 167 00:08:25,548 --> 00:08:28,986 SHATNER: Trained to see the future? 168 00:08:29,117 --> 00:08:32,686 Could such a farfetched but also tantalizing notion 169 00:08:32,816 --> 00:08:35,776 actually be possible? 170 00:08:35,906 --> 00:08:39,257 I think our generation is on the precipice of a great question 171 00:08:39,388 --> 00:08:42,086 about the extra-physical abilities of the mind. 172 00:08:42,217 --> 00:08:43,697 I don't know that we'll answer it, 173 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:45,220 but I think it is coming 174 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:47,396 more and more into focus 175 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:49,398 that materialism just doesn't cover 176 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:51,705 all the bases of life anymore, 177 00:08:51,835 --> 00:08:54,098 and that the mind has capacities, 178 00:08:54,229 --> 00:08:56,623 including extra-physical capacities, 179 00:08:56,753 --> 00:08:58,712 that are measurable, that are present, 180 00:08:58,842 --> 00:09:01,497 and that we're only beginning to understand. 181 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:03,499 HAMILTON-PARKER: It's a natural part 182 00:09:03,630 --> 00:09:06,981 of the human condition to make predictions. 183 00:09:07,111 --> 00:09:10,158 And couldn't it be that maybe our predictive ability 184 00:09:10,288 --> 00:09:12,073 is far greater than we've ever imagined? 185 00:09:12,203 --> 00:09:15,163 That maybe every one of us somehow has a way 186 00:09:15,293 --> 00:09:17,121 of seeing into the fabric of time? 187 00:09:17,252 --> 00:09:21,125 We just have to trust that ability. 188 00:09:21,256 --> 00:09:23,214 SHATNER: If each of us could learn 189 00:09:23,345 --> 00:09:25,782 how to predict the future, would we accept our fate, 190 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:27,610 or fight to change it? 191 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:29,917 Perhaps the answer can be found 192 00:09:30,047 --> 00:09:32,136 by studying the prophecies of the man who is considered 193 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:34,574 one of the greatest prophets of all time-- 194 00:09:34,704 --> 00:09:37,794 Nostradamus. 195 00:09:45,454 --> 00:09:46,890 SHATNER: Astrologer and physician 196 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:50,067 Michel de Nostradamus publishes a volume 197 00:09:50,198 --> 00:09:52,635 of four-line poems, called "quatrains." 198 00:09:52,766 --> 00:09:54,594 Readers at the time are confused 199 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:56,857 by the author's use of multiple languages, 200 00:09:56,987 --> 00:09:59,294 word puzzles, and what was even then 201 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:02,384 considered antiquated syntax. 202 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:05,953 But perhaps even more baffling is the volume's title, 203 00:10:06,083 --> 00:10:09,347 Les Propheties-- The Prophecies. 204 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:14,570 HOGUE: Nostradamus had become 205 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:18,008 initially famous as an almanac writer. 206 00:10:18,139 --> 00:10:20,054 You've got to understand that this is 207 00:10:20,184 --> 00:10:21,925 during the time of the printing revolution, 208 00:10:22,056 --> 00:10:24,449 and he was one of its first best-selling authors. 209 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:28,323 And then he embarked on a history of the future, 210 00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:31,500 which would look at everything 211 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:34,895 up to the year 3797 AD, 212 00:10:35,025 --> 00:10:38,202 nearly 1,800 years from now, and beyond. 213 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:39,551 SHATNER: The Prophecies was initially met 214 00:10:39,682 --> 00:10:42,424 with outright skepticism and derision. 215 00:10:42,554 --> 00:10:46,123 Many believed Nostradamus to be either a fraud 216 00:10:46,254 --> 00:10:47,647 or mentally ill, 217 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:49,518 possibly both, 218 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,173 likely due to the fact that one of his verses 219 00:10:52,303 --> 00:10:56,568 scandalously foretold of a particularly gory death 220 00:10:56,699 --> 00:10:58,396 for Henry II, the king of France. 221 00:10:58,527 --> 00:11:00,268 HOGUE: Nostradamus made a prediction 222 00:11:00,398 --> 00:11:04,402 about Henry II dying in a jousting accident. 223 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,884 -[neighing] -Quatrain 35 224 00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:10,670 read that a young lion would face the old 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,628 in traditional combat. 226 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,674 He shall be pierced 227 00:11:14,804 --> 00:11:16,458 through a gilded cage. 228 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:18,808 Two wounds made one. 229 00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:23,421 The joust happened exactly as he foretold it. 230 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:28,339 Both men had lions on their shields. 231 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:32,474 Large shards went through the gilded visor of the king. 232 00:11:32,604 --> 00:11:35,520 One penetrated his forehead into his brain, 233 00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:38,306 the other in between his eye and socket, 234 00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:40,308 destroying his eye. 235 00:11:40,438 --> 00:11:44,486 And he died of infection of the brain ten days later, 236 00:11:44,616 --> 00:11:47,228 an agonizing death. 237 00:11:47,358 --> 00:11:49,752 SHATNER: After the king's death, 238 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:54,278 Nostradamus' reputation as a seer of the future grew rapidly, 239 00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:56,237 which was, at the time, 240 00:11:56,367 --> 00:11:59,849 not necessarily a good thing. 241 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:03,418 It is well-known that Nostradamus concealed 242 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:05,725 the nature of his prophecies, 243 00:12:05,855 --> 00:12:08,684 which, at that time, was very politically incorrect 244 00:12:08,815 --> 00:12:12,383 and could have gotten him in a lot of trouble. 245 00:12:12,514 --> 00:12:14,342 He would come into great conflict with the church 246 00:12:14,472 --> 00:12:17,127 if he p-put himself on a pedestal and be like 247 00:12:17,258 --> 00:12:20,957 Noah or Moses or people like this. 248 00:12:21,088 --> 00:12:23,351 SHATNER: Despite the controversy, 249 00:12:23,481 --> 00:12:25,222 The Prophecies eventually became 250 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:27,921 one of the most widely read books in the world. 251 00:12:28,051 --> 00:12:31,098 It both astounded and terrified readers with its predictions 252 00:12:31,228 --> 00:12:34,492 about dreadful events to come. 253 00:12:34,623 --> 00:12:36,364 -[whispering] -Is it possible 254 00:12:36,494 --> 00:12:39,019 Nostradamus received his prophetic visions 255 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:42,283 because he was in touch with a higher power? 256 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:46,113 It's an interesting theory 257 00:12:46,243 --> 00:12:48,419 and could help explain how Nostradamus was able to see 258 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:51,335 and know things that would not happen for centuries, 259 00:12:51,466 --> 00:12:55,035 things he was trying to warn us about. 260 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:57,080 -[whistling] -[explosion] 261 00:12:57,211 --> 00:12:58,299 1942. 262 00:12:58,429 --> 00:13:00,649 With World War II 263 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:02,825 wreaking havoc throughout Europe and the Pacific, 264 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:05,175 it wasn't only the latest news 265 00:13:05,306 --> 00:13:07,308 from the front lines making headlines 266 00:13:07,438 --> 00:13:09,527 but also Nostradamus 267 00:13:09,658 --> 00:13:12,748 and his prophecy centering 268 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:16,404 on the rise of a man named Hister. 269 00:13:18,058 --> 00:13:21,365 HOGUE: What triggered his international fame 270 00:13:21,496 --> 00:13:25,152 was a reference five times in his prophecies 271 00:13:25,282 --> 00:13:28,111 about a man named Hister 272 00:13:28,242 --> 00:13:30,157 with a Gothic "S," 273 00:13:30,287 --> 00:13:32,333 which has a "T" crossed. 274 00:13:32,463 --> 00:13:35,249 Another push, push, nudge, nudge, perhaps, 275 00:13:35,379 --> 00:13:36,990 in his work. 276 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,950 Hister is the ancient name of the river Danube. 277 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:44,301 Adolf Hitler grew up on the river Danube. 278 00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:48,349 Nostradamus had a pattern of using a place as a person. 279 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:50,351 The river is a code, 280 00:13:50,481 --> 00:13:52,744 and the things that are said in the other parts 281 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:56,444 of the prophecies indicate that it's a man. 282 00:13:56,574 --> 00:14:01,231 The man who's called the captain of greater Germany. 283 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:06,019 SHATNER: Is it possible 284 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:08,151 Nostradamus predicted the rise 285 00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:11,067 of one of the most evil men in history? 286 00:14:11,198 --> 00:14:13,156 According to many who have studied these quatrains, 287 00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:14,288 the answer is yes. 288 00:14:14,418 --> 00:14:15,811 And as evidence, 289 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:18,074 they point to other things he foresaw, 290 00:14:18,205 --> 00:14:21,599 things that a person who lived and died in the 16th century 291 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:25,386 could never know would one day exist. 292 00:14:25,516 --> 00:14:27,083 This happened many times for me, 293 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:28,868 when I want to just slap the book shut 294 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,652 and say, "Oh, come on." 295 00:14:30,782 --> 00:14:33,176 And then names suddenly come out. 296 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:38,051 A man named de Gaulle will lead France three times. 297 00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:39,617 And it's factually true. 298 00:14:39,748 --> 00:14:41,576 Charles de Gaulle led the free French, 299 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:43,143 led the provisional government 300 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:45,449 and then, finally, in his final years, 301 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:48,061 was president of France-- three times. 302 00:14:48,191 --> 00:14:50,672 And that's one of hundreds of things I can cite. 303 00:14:50,802 --> 00:14:53,588 How does he do this? 304 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:57,113 HOROWITZ: Nostradamus is one of the most enduring names, 305 00:14:57,244 --> 00:14:59,202 perhaps the most enduring name, 306 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:01,596 in post-biblical prophecy. 307 00:15:01,726 --> 00:15:05,078 His quatrains have been applied to hundreds upon hundreds 308 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:06,906 of events throughout history, 309 00:15:07,036 --> 00:15:09,430 and people continue to feel that they can learn 310 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,520 what's around the next corner by studying his quatrains. 311 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:14,565 HAMILTON-PARKER: Nostradamus fascinates us, 312 00:15:14,696 --> 00:15:18,004 because it's perhaps part of our fear instinct, isn't it? 313 00:15:18,134 --> 00:15:20,397 When we're in difficult times, we turn to the seers, 314 00:15:20,528 --> 00:15:23,574 we turn to the prophets to try to find out can they give 315 00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:26,099 some insight into these chaotic times we live in, 316 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:27,752 particularly in today's time. 317 00:15:27,883 --> 00:15:30,103 SHATNER: If it's true 318 00:15:30,233 --> 00:15:32,453 that Nostradamus was able to predict so many things 319 00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:34,672 with such incredible accuracy, 320 00:15:34,803 --> 00:15:36,761 why aren't we scouring his works 321 00:15:36,892 --> 00:15:39,895 in order to prevent the next natural catastrophe 322 00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:41,897 or world war? 323 00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:43,681 Perhaps because, 324 00:15:43,812 --> 00:15:46,336 as scholars of Nostradamus have to admit, 325 00:15:46,467 --> 00:15:48,773 of the thousands of prophecies he made 326 00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:50,558 over the course of his life, 327 00:15:50,688 --> 00:15:54,910 only a small fraction have actually come true. 328 00:15:55,041 --> 00:15:57,608 And even his seemingly accurate predictions 329 00:15:57,739 --> 00:16:00,089 have been questioned. 330 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,787 HAMILTON-PARKER: We kind of have a double problem with Nostradamus in some ways, 331 00:16:02,918 --> 00:16:05,181 because some of the predictions are a bit vague 332 00:16:05,312 --> 00:16:07,357 and people can project all sorts 333 00:16:07,488 --> 00:16:09,011 of things into these vague predictions 334 00:16:09,142 --> 00:16:11,709 and then relate them to something that's happening now. 335 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,364 But, also, sometimes they take 336 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:16,627 two completely unrelated sentences, 337 00:16:16,758 --> 00:16:18,890 put them together, and it seems to relate 338 00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:20,980 to something we have today. 339 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:24,679 KAKU: The brain is a pattern-seeking learning machine. 340 00:16:24,809 --> 00:16:26,986 It constantly sees patterns, 341 00:16:27,116 --> 00:16:28,596 even when they're not there. 342 00:16:28,726 --> 00:16:31,164 Um, in fact, there's a name for it, apophenia. 343 00:16:31,294 --> 00:16:35,429 We can't help it, because sometimes we were right. 344 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:37,474 Then we make leaps of logic. 345 00:16:37,605 --> 00:16:40,608 What does he mean? What did he really mean by that? 346 00:16:40,738 --> 00:16:42,566 And then we try to make sense of it, 347 00:16:42,697 --> 00:16:45,743 because that's what the brain does. 348 00:16:48,181 --> 00:16:49,704 SHATNER: Are Nostradamus' predictions 349 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:52,228 merely the ramblings of a madman, 350 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:54,100 which people deliberately interpret 351 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:56,711 in order to fit history after the fact? 352 00:16:56,841 --> 00:16:59,018 As with anything, 353 00:16:59,148 --> 00:17:02,673 it all depends on who you ask. 354 00:17:02,804 --> 00:17:05,198 HOGUE: What makes Nostradamus so relevant today 355 00:17:05,328 --> 00:17:07,852 is that he's found a way 356 00:17:07,983 --> 00:17:11,465 through his obscurity to make everybody a sleuthsayer, 357 00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:13,815 a detective. 358 00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:16,426 He understood that it would keep him topical 359 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,254 for four and a half centuries. 360 00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:21,562 He even said that, "When I'm dead, 361 00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:25,522 I will be far more famous than I ever was while I'm alive." 362 00:17:25,653 --> 00:17:27,089 SHATNER: For skeptics, 363 00:17:27,220 --> 00:17:29,048 the enduring mystery of Nostradamus 364 00:17:29,178 --> 00:17:30,658 is nothing more than a testament 365 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:33,095 to the power of wishful thinking. 366 00:17:33,226 --> 00:17:35,532 -[sirens wailing] -But others insist 367 00:17:35,663 --> 00:17:38,274 that if we paid closer attention to his prophecies, 368 00:17:38,405 --> 00:17:40,407 we might have been able to prevent 369 00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:41,625 one of the greatest tragedies 370 00:17:41,756 --> 00:17:44,411 of the last one hundred years, 371 00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:47,370 9/11. 372 00:17:58,860 --> 00:18:01,080 [shouting] 373 00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:03,212 MAN: Whoa, whoa! 374 00:18:03,343 --> 00:18:06,868 SHATNER: 19 terrorists overwhelm the flight crews 375 00:18:06,998 --> 00:18:09,479 of four passenger planes 376 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:14,484 and send each of them crashing into prearranged targets. 377 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:18,097 -[sirens wailing] -[screaming] 378 00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:20,011 MAN: Get out of here! Get out! 379 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,970 SHATNER: They are chosen to inflict 380 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:25,495 massive casualties and cripple the morale of the United States. 381 00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:29,151 [screaming] 382 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,023 It is a tragedy that has become a permanent part 383 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:35,592 of our collective consciousness 384 00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:40,206 and a day that forever changed the world. 385 00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:50,520 But had the event been predicted? 386 00:18:50,651 --> 00:18:52,174 -[siren wailing] -And if so, 387 00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:55,090 could it have been prevented? 388 00:18:57,745 --> 00:18:59,268 "I'm gonna die soon, and it's gonna be a plane crash 389 00:18:59,399 --> 00:19:00,574 or a car accident." 390 00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:02,271 That's what my sister told me 391 00:19:02,402 --> 00:19:06,101 about two weeks before the planes crashed 392 00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:08,364 into the towers on 9/11. 393 00:19:10,671 --> 00:19:14,196 My sister and I were super, super close. 394 00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:16,024 She was eight years older than me, 395 00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:19,506 so she was like a second mom. 396 00:19:19,636 --> 00:19:22,683 My mom and my sister and I were all very close, 397 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:24,467 like a warm family. 398 00:19:24,598 --> 00:19:28,123 Marisa had a job at Cantor Fitzgerald, 399 00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:31,779 which occupied the top floors of Tower One. 400 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:34,303 On the eve of September 11... 401 00:19:34,434 --> 00:19:37,001 September 10 is my mom's birthday, 402 00:19:37,132 --> 00:19:40,657 and we all were invited by my sister 403 00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:42,746 to Windows on the World, the top of Tower One. 404 00:19:42,877 --> 00:19:44,574 And, um, 405 00:19:44,705 --> 00:19:47,838 you know, everything I talked to her about that night 406 00:19:47,969 --> 00:19:49,971 was kind of like she was talking to me for the last time, 407 00:19:50,101 --> 00:19:51,451 in a weird way. 408 00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:54,280 And I thought back, you know, 409 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,543 a few weeks before when she said, 410 00:19:56,673 --> 00:19:58,588 "I know I'm gonna die, and it's gonna be soon." 411 00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:01,025 And, uh, she started to cry. 412 00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,550 And I said, "How do you know that?" 413 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,509 She said, "Just trust me. I know I'm going to." 414 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,469 Never in a million years did I think 415 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:13,342 a plane was about to smash right into where we were sitting 416 00:20:13,473 --> 00:20:17,041 just about 12 hours later. 417 00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,435 Everyone died that was at Cantor, 418 00:20:19,566 --> 00:20:22,090 because the plane hit perfectly. 419 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,919 My sister was, um... 420 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:28,749 one of those people. 421 00:20:28,879 --> 00:20:32,187 SHATNER: Since 2001, 422 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:35,364 hundreds of accounts similar to Marisa DiNardo's 423 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,670 have surfaced, 424 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,846 all of them suggesting that, 425 00:20:38,976 --> 00:20:41,544 in the days and weeks leading up to the tragic event, 426 00:20:41,675 --> 00:20:43,720 many of the 9/11 victims 427 00:20:43,851 --> 00:20:45,983 had dreadful premonitions 428 00:20:46,114 --> 00:20:49,291 about some sort of deadly catastrophe. 429 00:20:49,422 --> 00:20:51,162 DINARDO: I remember hearing 430 00:20:51,293 --> 00:20:53,426 about a story where a man had a dream 431 00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:55,602 of a plane hitting a building 432 00:20:55,732 --> 00:20:59,170 a few days before 9/11. 433 00:20:59,301 --> 00:21:01,738 I also remember reading about a woman 434 00:21:01,869 --> 00:21:03,392 that was sitting at the PATH station 435 00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:04,872 and had this vision 436 00:21:05,002 --> 00:21:07,353 of the World Trade Center falling on her. 437 00:21:07,483 --> 00:21:10,834 It was the same week that 9/11 happened. 438 00:21:10,965 --> 00:21:13,489 There was, um, another story 439 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:15,578 of a man that didn't want to get 440 00:21:15,709 --> 00:21:18,277 on to one of the flights because of a-a dream 441 00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:20,670 or-or a premonition that he had. 442 00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:23,456 SHATNER: According to some experts, 443 00:21:23,586 --> 00:21:26,023 these premonitions, unlike predictions made 444 00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:27,851 by so-called "professional prophets," 445 00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,680 are a part of an innate, biological 446 00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:32,160 early-warning system 447 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:35,642 that all of us possess. 448 00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:38,645 Usually intuition is more of a gut feeling or a feeling 449 00:21:38,775 --> 00:21:42,779 that you just knew something, and it typically results 450 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:46,305 from pattern recognition, or our mind's ability 451 00:21:46,435 --> 00:21:50,178 to very quickly decipher patterns in the environment. 452 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:53,355 And because we usually can't articulate the basis 453 00:21:53,486 --> 00:21:55,575 of our gut feeling or how we just knew something, 454 00:21:55,705 --> 00:22:00,362 it can often feel like ESP or a sixth sense 455 00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:03,931 or like we had a successful premonition. 456 00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:07,369 SHATNER: If humans do have 457 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:10,590 an instinctual danger sense, designed to help us 458 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,766 anticipate what's around the corner, 459 00:22:12,896 --> 00:22:15,203 could that explain how so many people 460 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:18,728 seemed to know the 9/11 attacks were coming? 461 00:22:18,859 --> 00:22:21,862 There are some who believe the answer may be found by examining 462 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:26,997 a strange occurrence that happened on that fateful day. 463 00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:30,000 HOROWITZ: There was a paranormal research lab 464 00:22:30,131 --> 00:22:32,176 at Princeton University 465 00:22:32,307 --> 00:22:35,005 that placed a number of machines around the world, 466 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,660 referred to as random number generators. 467 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:40,141 A random number generator is actually 468 00:22:40,271 --> 00:22:42,143 a machine that you use all the time. 469 00:22:42,273 --> 00:22:44,493 It spits out a random pattern of numbers. 470 00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:46,843 And it's used to create passwords for Web sites 471 00:22:46,974 --> 00:22:50,369 or safes or any number of devices that need to be secure. 472 00:22:50,499 --> 00:22:53,937 There are million-to-one odds 473 00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:56,723 against any patterns showing up 474 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,116 in the data that comes out of a random number generator. 475 00:22:59,247 --> 00:23:01,597 What the Princeton researchers found 476 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:05,645 was that when the tragedy of 9/11 occurred, 477 00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:08,474 these random number generators demonstrated 478 00:23:08,604 --> 00:23:11,259 an interruption in the random pattern. 479 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:15,437 They demonstrated symmetry where there shouldn't be any. 480 00:23:15,568 --> 00:23:18,571 SHATNER: Patterns created by machines 481 00:23:18,701 --> 00:23:21,008 programmed to avoid them? 482 00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:24,664 There are many who believe that the so-called "computer glitch" 483 00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:27,057 that occurred at the same time as the 9/11 attacks 484 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:31,627 was no mere coincidence. 485 00:23:31,758 --> 00:23:34,282 And according to researchers familiar with 486 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:38,678 the Princeton incident, certain events, such as catastrophes, 487 00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:43,291 actually have tangible, measurable effects 488 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:47,948 not only on humans, but on electronic devices. 489 00:23:48,078 --> 00:23:51,473 Could it be that major events that have a huge effect 490 00:23:51,604 --> 00:23:54,998 on history maybe act like a sort of a bomb of some sort? 491 00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:57,697 That send ripples through time, 492 00:23:57,827 --> 00:24:00,090 both forward in time and backwards in time? 493 00:24:00,221 --> 00:24:04,443 And people see this, we see it like a light on the horizon. 494 00:24:04,573 --> 00:24:07,358 We see parts of it, but not all of it. 495 00:24:07,489 --> 00:24:10,666 We get the energy from the future 496 00:24:10,797 --> 00:24:14,757 reaching back to us here in the past. 497 00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:18,631 I believe that there is 498 00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,416 certainly a higher power, 499 00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:24,158 an energy or whatever you want to call it 500 00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:28,292 'cause I really do feel with every sense of my being 501 00:24:28,423 --> 00:24:32,166 that my sister knew and that she was going. 502 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:35,648 I mean, how else can you explain the things she said 503 00:24:35,778 --> 00:24:40,261 and, uh, what she knew. 504 00:24:42,263 --> 00:24:44,613 Could the horrifying attacks of September the 11th 505 00:24:44,744 --> 00:24:46,310 have been prevented, 506 00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:49,313 not by law enforcement, but by those who literally 507 00:24:49,444 --> 00:24:51,881 saw it happen in advance? 508 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:56,669 There are those who believe that not only is the answer yes, 509 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,847 but that the ability to predict the future can be harnessed 510 00:25:00,977 --> 00:25:03,110 in an effort to ensure 511 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,591 mankind's destiny. 512 00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:18,168 SHATNER: News organizations broadcast 513 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:22,956 a series of horrific images that stun viewers across the country. 514 00:25:23,086 --> 00:25:28,178 A tidal wave of mud and shale has swallowed the small, 515 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:33,488 coal-mining town of Aberfan in its entirety. 516 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:37,405 Of the 144 people killed by the landslide, 517 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,930 116 are schoolchildren. 518 00:25:41,061 --> 00:25:43,498 And for this tight-knit community, 519 00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:47,371 many of whom have lived in Aberfan for generations, 520 00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:50,461 the loss is devastating. 521 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:52,725 POPE: One of the first people 522 00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:57,077 to respond to the disaster is psychiatrist John Barker. 523 00:25:58,513 --> 00:26:00,341 Initially, he arrives 524 00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:03,692 to offer consultation to the survivors. 525 00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:06,434 VIVANCO: So, when he gets there, he's interviewing 526 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:09,002 parents that had lost children. 527 00:26:09,132 --> 00:26:13,746 He was really surprised to hear that there were premonitions 528 00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:15,922 before it happened. 529 00:26:16,052 --> 00:26:19,621 One boy drew a picture of people amassed on the hillside, 530 00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:22,145 digging into it, and he wrote underneath, "the end." 531 00:26:22,276 --> 00:26:25,584 Also, there was 532 00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:28,717 a young girl who told her mom about a dream where 533 00:26:28,848 --> 00:26:31,764 she said there was this black mass over the school 534 00:26:31,894 --> 00:26:33,679 and she couldn't get in. 535 00:26:33,809 --> 00:26:38,248 Both of these children later went to school and died. 536 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:43,123 POPE: Barker begins to wonder whether 537 00:26:43,253 --> 00:26:45,168 these premonitions could be used 538 00:26:45,299 --> 00:26:48,345 as a sort of early warning system 539 00:26:48,476 --> 00:26:52,436 that might prevent future disasters. 540 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:56,005 So he asked Peter Fairley, who ran the science desk 541 00:26:56,136 --> 00:27:00,183 at the national newspaper, the London Evening Standard, 542 00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:02,359 to consider setting up a program 543 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:05,014 to collate people's premonitions. 544 00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:10,019 Fairley not only agreed, but he set up 545 00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:13,936 an entire bureau to act as a focal point. 546 00:27:14,067 --> 00:27:17,636 Starting in January 1967, 547 00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:20,377 the bureau commences operations. 548 00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:23,032 Reports come in, and the bureau staff-- 549 00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:28,081 they devise an 11-point system, looking for patterns. 550 00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:32,825 Five points for unusualness, five points for accuracy, 551 00:27:32,955 --> 00:27:34,870 and one point for timing. 552 00:27:35,001 --> 00:27:37,656 SHATNER: The British Premonitions Bureau, 553 00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:39,788 as it would come to be called, 554 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:43,662 collected 469 predictions in its first year. 555 00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:50,146 Unsurprisingly, many never came true. 556 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:53,584 But those submitted by two individuals-- 557 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,065 Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton-- 558 00:27:56,196 --> 00:27:58,111 stood out from the crowd. 559 00:27:58,241 --> 00:28:01,201 POPE: Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton 560 00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:04,900 made headlines in March 1967 561 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:08,904 when they both predicted a train accident 562 00:28:09,035 --> 00:28:14,693 just days before a passenger car derailed, killing 49 people. 563 00:28:14,823 --> 00:28:19,306 Hencher also had a premonition about a fatal plane crash, 564 00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:22,613 predicting the number of people who would die. 565 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,660 That kind of accuracy is staggering. 566 00:28:25,791 --> 00:28:28,097 SHATNER: For John Barker, 567 00:28:28,228 --> 00:28:30,186 the notion that Hencher and Middleton's predictions 568 00:28:30,317 --> 00:28:33,494 might allow him to warn people of disasters ahead of time 569 00:28:33,624 --> 00:28:36,889 was an exciting one. 570 00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:39,021 For the next year, he sent hundreds of what he believed 571 00:28:39,152 --> 00:28:40,849 to be credible predictions 572 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:43,722 to the editors of the London Evening Standard. 573 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:49,075 But in the summer of 1968, 574 00:28:49,205 --> 00:28:52,774 there was one deadly premonition that he chose to ignore. 575 00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:54,254 -[phone ringing] -One that was shared 576 00:28:54,384 --> 00:28:56,691 by both Hencher and Middleton, 577 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,650 and it involved John Barker himself. 578 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,391 VIVANCO: Around 1:00 in the morning, 579 00:29:01,522 --> 00:29:03,567 Hencher calls Barker. 580 00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:05,831 He's in a panic. 581 00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:08,137 He's got a-a terrible premonition. 582 00:29:08,268 --> 00:29:10,052 He says, "Do you have a dark car?" 583 00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:12,315 Barker says, "Yes." 584 00:29:12,446 --> 00:29:14,753 And he tells Barker, "You have to be careful. 585 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,190 Be very, very careful." 586 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,541 Then Barker asks him, "What? Am I in danger?" 587 00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:23,196 Hencher says, "Yes." 588 00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:27,591 POPE: Barker wrote a memo the next day 589 00:29:27,722 --> 00:29:31,726 explaining that Hencher could only explain 590 00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:35,251 that the dark car was somehow connected to Barker 591 00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,601 and a potentially deadly outcome. 592 00:29:37,732 --> 00:29:39,647 It all seemed pretty vague, 593 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,868 and perhaps that wouldn't have worried Barker so much 594 00:29:42,998 --> 00:29:45,827 were it not for the fact that there was another warning 595 00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:49,483 from his other superstar Lorna Middleton. 596 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,790 [siren blaring] 597 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,922 SHATNER: On August 18, 1968, 598 00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:55,968 less than two years after he had opened 599 00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:57,796 his Bureau of Premonitions, 600 00:29:57,926 --> 00:30:02,191 John Barker was suddenly rushed to the hospital. 601 00:30:02,322 --> 00:30:07,370 POPE: Barker died of a sudden brain hemorrhage, age 44. 602 00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:11,810 The British Premonitions Bureau closed down shortly thereafter. 603 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,464 SHATNER: As for the dark car? 604 00:30:14,595 --> 00:30:18,077 There are many who are convinced that the answer is simple. 605 00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:21,994 It was the funeral hearse that conveyed John Barker's body 606 00:30:22,124 --> 00:30:24,953 to its final resting place. 607 00:30:25,084 --> 00:30:28,609 It raises the question, was Barker's own death 608 00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,393 just a coincidence? 609 00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:32,613 Was it self-fulfilling prophecy, 610 00:30:32,743 --> 00:30:35,268 or like the rest of the bureau's predictions, 611 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:38,880 was fate simply too powerful to be stopped? 612 00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,364 Was the leader of the British Premonitions Bureau 613 00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:48,542 literally scared to death by other people's visions? 614 00:30:48,672 --> 00:30:51,153 Perhaps. But does the ability 615 00:30:51,284 --> 00:30:53,068 to see the future mean our lives are preordained? 616 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,985 Or is it possible that by knowing the future, 617 00:30:57,116 --> 00:31:00,641 we can change and even improve... our destiny? 618 00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:03,426 Maybe we'll find out the answer by investigating 619 00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:06,690 yet another form of prognostication... 620 00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,779 dreams. 621 00:31:18,528 --> 00:31:22,271 SHATNER: Cognitive neuroscientist Julia Mossbridge settles 622 00:31:22,402 --> 00:31:24,926 into bed after a long day. 623 00:31:25,057 --> 00:31:28,495 It's a night's sleep that begins like any other... 624 00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:32,673 until she experiences a strange 625 00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,675 and disturbing dream. 626 00:31:34,805 --> 00:31:37,634 MOSSBRIDGE: This dream was horrible. 627 00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:40,202 I was taken 628 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:42,335 to someplace in the Middle East. I didn't know where. 629 00:31:44,598 --> 00:31:47,035 I met this man. 630 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,037 He shows up sometimes in my dreams. 631 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:51,126 He's like a guide. 632 00:31:51,257 --> 00:31:53,389 There was this outdoor building. 633 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,522 It was mosque-like 634 00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:56,915 in that it was built out of stone 635 00:31:57,045 --> 00:32:00,092 and there were breezeways. 636 00:32:00,222 --> 00:32:03,225 It was the middle of the day. People are praying. 637 00:32:03,356 --> 00:32:05,097 SHATNER: In the confusing fog of her dream, 638 00:32:05,227 --> 00:32:08,622 Julia pieces together an unsettling picture. 639 00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:12,582 It seems that her guide is desperately trying 640 00:32:12,713 --> 00:32:14,236 to warn her of something that is going to happen. 641 00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:15,803 Something dire. 642 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,588 MOSSBRIDGE: And he's showing me this event. 643 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:24,246 There was rubble because there was 644 00:32:24,377 --> 00:32:26,379 a terrorist explosion when people were praying. 645 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:29,295 And he showed me this writing. 646 00:32:29,425 --> 00:32:31,906 It was Arabic. 647 00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:35,083 There was the letters for "I" and "S," 648 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:38,913 and I knew that stood for Islamic State. 649 00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:41,176 SHATNER: But before she can awaken herself 650 00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:43,744 from her nightmare, she realizes 651 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:48,183 he still has one more message to deliver. 652 00:32:48,314 --> 00:32:52,231 MOSSBRIDGE: He called the place we were in Kyuck Kyuck. 653 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,233 He kept saying "Kyuck Kyuck." 654 00:32:54,363 --> 00:32:55,930 And I didn't know what that meant. 655 00:32:56,061 --> 00:32:57,758 Since I was a kid, 656 00:32:57,888 --> 00:33:00,282 I have had precognitive dreams. 657 00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:04,156 Usually they're describing an event that happens 658 00:33:04,286 --> 00:33:06,985 the next day, the next week, the next month. 659 00:33:07,115 --> 00:33:09,726 So, when I woke up, I wrote it in my dream journal 660 00:33:09,857 --> 00:33:11,250 because that's my habit. I never had 661 00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:13,078 a precognitive dream of something horrible 662 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:15,167 like that on a, on a major world scale. 663 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:16,211 It shook me. 664 00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:21,260 During the day, I got the news report 665 00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:24,567 of a bombing in Kuwait City, Kuwait. 666 00:33:24,698 --> 00:33:26,961 I figured, "Oh, that was the Kyuck Kyuck." 667 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:29,833 I had it almost right but not quite. 668 00:33:31,139 --> 00:33:33,489 This happened during noontime prayers. 669 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:36,927 Responsibility was claimed by ISIS, Islamic State. 670 00:33:40,888 --> 00:33:44,587 I felt heartbroken because I saw it happen. 671 00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:48,156 SHATNER: Dreams have long been known 672 00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:50,898 to reflect the dreamer's subconscious mind. 673 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:53,248 Desires, anxieties, 674 00:33:53,379 --> 00:33:57,644 long-forgotten memories all bubbling to the surface. 675 00:33:57,774 --> 00:34:00,516 But precognitive dreams? 676 00:34:00,647 --> 00:34:02,823 Is it really possible that dreams, 677 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:05,478 like the ones we have every night, 678 00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:08,089 can actually predict the future? 679 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,787 KAKU: When we take a person who's dreaming 680 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:13,181 and put him in a brain scan machine, 681 00:34:13,312 --> 00:34:15,966 we begin to realize something very interesting. 682 00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:17,664 Blood flow to the front of the brain 683 00:34:17,794 --> 00:34:19,492 is turned off for the most part. 684 00:34:19,622 --> 00:34:22,973 Second, blood flow goes to the emotional part of the brain, 685 00:34:23,104 --> 00:34:24,758 and you start to have nightmares. 686 00:34:24,888 --> 00:34:26,542 You start to have fears. 687 00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:30,155 You imagine the future or have a premonition. 688 00:34:30,285 --> 00:34:32,287 Dreams are important because it allows us 689 00:34:32,418 --> 00:34:34,463 to articulate the fears and premonitions 690 00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:37,727 that we have in the unconscious mind, 691 00:34:37,858 --> 00:34:40,382 and then we're able to evaluate it 692 00:34:40,513 --> 00:34:42,254 with the conscious mind. 693 00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:45,300 SHATNER: As unbelievable as it may have seemed 694 00:34:45,431 --> 00:34:47,694 to her scientific mind, 695 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:50,479 Julia firmly believed she had seen the future 696 00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:52,568 before it happened. 697 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,527 Having been in this position before 698 00:34:54,657 --> 00:34:56,442 and regretting not doing anything about it, 699 00:34:56,572 --> 00:34:59,880 Julia wasn't going to let the same thing happen again. 700 00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:02,535 In fall of 2017, 701 00:35:02,665 --> 00:35:05,451 I had another one of these world stage-type dreams 702 00:35:05,581 --> 00:35:06,974 that felt precognitive 703 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,889 and that did not feel good. 704 00:35:09,019 --> 00:35:10,891 There was a cruise ship. 705 00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:14,764 And there were these cartoon 706 00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:16,636 sort of creatures on the cruise ship. 707 00:35:16,766 --> 00:35:18,812 I thought, "Oh, no. Disney." 708 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:20,814 And then, after that, 709 00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:22,076 thwas a bridge structure. 710 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:23,338 There was this arching-- 711 00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:25,035 it was actually quite beautiful-- 712 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:27,386 this arching bridge structure. 713 00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:29,083 And the concern in the dream 714 00:35:29,214 --> 00:35:31,259 was, that's where the explosion would happen. 715 00:35:32,869 --> 00:35:35,568 And that scared me. 716 00:35:35,698 --> 00:35:36,873 I'd never seen a bridge like that. 717 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:38,527 So I googled 718 00:35:38,658 --> 00:35:40,094 the shape of the bridge, 719 00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,270 and the first thing that shows up 720 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:44,925 is the Coronado Bridge in San Diego. 721 00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:46,361 I remembered that I'd promised myself 722 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:47,971 that I was gonna go to authorities 723 00:35:48,102 --> 00:35:49,103 even if I felt stupid. 724 00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:51,453 MULLEN: I was detailed 725 00:35:51,584 --> 00:35:53,673 to the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force 726 00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:55,327 in San Diego, California. 727 00:35:55,457 --> 00:35:58,286 Julia contacted 728 00:35:58,417 --> 00:35:59,853 somebody within NCIS, 729 00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:01,898 and my boss got word of it 730 00:36:02,029 --> 00:36:03,770 and said, "Hey, just look into this." 731 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,903 I knew very little, if anything, about precog. 732 00:36:07,034 --> 00:36:08,905 I was curious. 733 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:11,691 I knew from the very second that I started talking to her 734 00:36:11,821 --> 00:36:13,388 that there was no ulterior motive. 735 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,348 When she gave me the information, she was 736 00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:19,699 very specific on the location and the time. 737 00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:23,920 She had actual information and wanted somebody to run with this 738 00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:26,401 to prevent something that she saw in a dream. 739 00:36:26,532 --> 00:36:29,317 Most cops don't like using information 740 00:36:29,448 --> 00:36:31,537 that they can't explain. 741 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:35,845 And precog is something that is unexplainable. 742 00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:38,587 But if this is something that would actually work, 743 00:36:38,718 --> 00:36:40,415 why not give it a try? 744 00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:45,768 The Coronado Bay Bridge in San Diego is one of the big things 745 00:36:45,899 --> 00:36:50,208 that we try to protect, along with all of the Navy assets. 746 00:36:50,338 --> 00:36:51,861 There are always threats. 747 00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:56,388 We were able to move patrol boats 748 00:36:56,518 --> 00:36:58,694 -to provide coverage around the bridge... -[siren wailing] 749 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:05,658 ...and nothing happened. 750 00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:11,881 Did nothing happen because there were patrol boats, 751 00:37:12,012 --> 00:37:15,320 and somebody who was looking to do something nefarious 752 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,278 against the bridge basically said, 753 00:37:17,409 --> 00:37:19,019 "I don't want to be caught"? 754 00:37:19,149 --> 00:37:22,240 Or was the attack not even going to happen? 755 00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:27,070 The simple fact that nothing happened was, 756 00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:28,507 in my mind, a win. 757 00:37:31,988 --> 00:37:35,122 MOSSBRIDGE: If you're going to go into this world and use this talent 758 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,995 to create data that can be used to prevent something, 759 00:37:39,126 --> 00:37:40,736 sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 760 00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:43,826 But as long as the bad thing doesn't happen, good. 761 00:37:45,828 --> 00:37:48,266 SHATNER: There are those who believe Julia Mossbridge prevented 762 00:37:48,396 --> 00:37:50,920 a dangerous attack by seeing the future 763 00:37:51,051 --> 00:37:52,879 and acting on her vision. 764 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:56,709 And there are skeptics who question whether 765 00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,363 there was any danger in the first place. 766 00:38:01,453 --> 00:38:04,673 But perhaps both sides are missing the target. 767 00:38:04,804 --> 00:38:08,503 Because, according to one incredible theory, 768 00:38:08,634 --> 00:38:11,637 the past, present and future 769 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,248 may actually be the same thing. 770 00:38:21,951 --> 00:38:25,390 SHATNER: The International Data Corporation publishes a report 771 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,089 which estimates that, by the year 2022, 772 00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:33,398 over $270 billion will be spent annually 773 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:35,051 on a new form of prophecy. 774 00:38:35,182 --> 00:38:39,012 It's called predictive analytics. 775 00:38:39,142 --> 00:38:43,059 Only this time, the prophets will be made of ones and zeros 776 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:46,628 instead of flesh and blood. 777 00:38:48,064 --> 00:38:51,633 Predictive analytics is a fancy way of saying 778 00:38:51,764 --> 00:38:55,158 "Look at the data and figure out why things happen." 779 00:38:55,289 --> 00:38:57,422 Very important. 780 00:38:57,552 --> 00:38:59,249 Banks, corporations, computer companies 781 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,514 spend hundreds of millions of dollars 782 00:39:02,644 --> 00:39:05,299 sifting through tons of data, 783 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:09,259 trying to find instances of causality. 784 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:11,044 If I raise the price of a product, 785 00:39:11,174 --> 00:39:13,307 does my profit margin go down? 786 00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:16,136 Will I go bankrupt? 787 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:18,704 In other words, corporations constantly try 788 00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:20,183 to predict the future. 789 00:39:20,314 --> 00:39:21,881 That's the name of the game. 790 00:39:22,011 --> 00:39:25,319 You predict it wrong, you zag when you should zig, 791 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:28,409 you go bankrupt. 792 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:31,586 I think predictive analytics operate very similarly 793 00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:33,545 to how our brains work. 794 00:39:33,675 --> 00:39:37,375 Our minds come equipped to make predictions about the future 795 00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:40,247 based on our past experiences, 796 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,118 and they operate very similarly. 797 00:39:42,249 --> 00:39:44,991 In fact, machine-learning algorithms, 798 00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:47,776 the type that carry out predictive analytics, 799 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:51,258 are often called neural network models 800 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,260 because they're designed to mimic 801 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,393 how neurons work in our brains. 802 00:39:57,699 --> 00:40:00,833 SHATNER: The idea of advanced computers pulling information 803 00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:02,791 from the cloud in order to predict the future 804 00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:05,228 may sound like science fiction. 805 00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:09,755 But in truth this idea has been around 806 00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:12,888 for thousands of years. 807 00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:15,369 Every culture in history has had some concept 808 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:17,371 of a universal mind. 809 00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:20,287 The Greeks used to call it nous, or a great overmind. 810 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,464 In Vedic tradition, it's sometimes called Akasha, 811 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:26,467 or a kind of universal ether. 812 00:40:26,598 --> 00:40:29,427 People like Nostradamus and any seer 813 00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:32,517 will tune into what we call the Akashic record. 814 00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:36,608 This is like the memory of all things. 815 00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:38,697 It's the universal mind. 816 00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:42,135 We enter it by going into a state of meditation 817 00:40:42,265 --> 00:40:46,966 and connecting with the past, the present and the future. 818 00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:51,274 One of the great secrets of the mystical tradition is that 819 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:54,364 all human souls are one. 820 00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:57,846 So we are part of a collective whole. 821 00:40:57,977 --> 00:41:01,197 In later psychology, it has been understood 822 00:41:01,328 --> 00:41:04,940 to be called a collective unconscious. 823 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,551 In ancient times 824 00:41:06,681 --> 00:41:10,163 it was referred to as a collective soul, 825 00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:12,818 which is the collective mind of all humanity, 826 00:41:12,948 --> 00:41:16,256 past, present, future. 827 00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:17,953 MOSSBRIDGE: I think the people who work in this way, 828 00:41:18,084 --> 00:41:20,173 what they're doing is they're tapping into 829 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:22,218 some source of information. 830 00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:24,830 I don't think the question is 831 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,440 "Why are we able to get information about the future?" 832 00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,224 I think the question is more like, 833 00:41:28,355 --> 00:41:30,444 "Why don't we get more information about the future?" 834 00:41:32,141 --> 00:41:35,405 A universal mind, 835 00:41:35,536 --> 00:41:37,973 all-knowing and all-encompassing. 836 00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:41,455 But do we really want to know everything 837 00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:42,717 before it happens? 838 00:41:42,848 --> 00:41:45,198 Time of our own death, perhaps? 839 00:41:45,328 --> 00:41:46,765 Or the fate of our loved ones? 840 00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:51,726 Or... how about the end of the world? 841 00:41:51,857 --> 00:41:55,034 Perhaps we're better off not knowing. 842 00:41:55,164 --> 00:41:58,516 Letting those things remain... 843 00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:00,561 the unexplained. 844 00:42:00,692 --> 00:42:02,955 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 65949

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