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This programme contains
some strong language.
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Good evening, everyone.
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I'm Dwayne Johnson and you are
watching The Graham Norton Show!
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Hello, good evening!
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Oh!
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Thank you very much! Thank you so
much! Hello, everybody! Great show
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for you tonight.
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I tell you, my sofa is hotter
than a royal wedding invite.
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Still waiting.
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There's been so much speculation
about who will be on the guestlist.
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But unfortunately it's
private information.
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If only there was someone
that could find out?
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Oh, yeah.
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That's Facebook boss
Mark Zuckerberg at this week's
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Senate hearing in America,
looking into Facebook's
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misuse of private data.
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That lady to his right really seems
to be appreciating the senators'
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forensic grasp of technical issues.
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Control board dillied?
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Fun fact - did you know Zuckerberg
is currently worth $64 billion?
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I know!
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Minus the $2 he spent
on that haircut.
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Because he's only five foot seven,
Mark sat on a booster seat
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during the questioning.
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Aww, I feel a bit
bad revealing that.
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Sorry, Mark, have I
breached your privacy?
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In the end, Zuckerberg did apologise
for the misuse of people's data.
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Well, I say he apologised,
he sent the senators this.
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But back to the wedding!
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Harry and Meghan have decided not
to have an official list
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of political leaders attending.
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Which makes sense -
cos if there's one thing Theresa May
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and Jeremy Corbyn have in common,
it's that they both know
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how to ruin a party.
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Let's get some guests on!
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Later, we'll be joined
by a true rock legend -
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Roger Daltrey will be here!
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He'll be chatting and singing
a track from his new solo album.
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But first, he's starred
in The Office, Sherlock, The Hobbit,
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and the megahit Black Panther.
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Now he brings us the truly
terrifying Ghost Stories.
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Welcome back to Martin Freeman!
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Hello, sir!
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Martin Freeman!
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She's the Oscar-nominated star
of Moonlight who made her mark
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as James Bond's Moneypenny.
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Now she's back in action
in the monster blockbuster Rampage.
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It's always a pleasure
to welcome Naomie Harris!
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Oh, waving from a distance! Hello.
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Lovely to see you.
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And saving the world alongside
Naomie, this man has gone
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from kicking ass in the wrestling
ring to become the biggest
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action star on the planet.
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What more can I say?
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It's Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson!
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Hello, guys.
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I saw Martin at the end and I was
going to say, move up, but the couch
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is sort of full. This is as close as
I get. Yeah, you have built it.
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Dwayne Johnson, do you have your
phone on it? Yes. You could be
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getting a call at any time.
Absolutely, any day, any minute,
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we're going to give birth to a baby
girl, and I can't wait.
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Yeah, we! We are giving birth. Are
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we? We are. The contractions with
having our... Your rough handling it
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remarkably well. You already know
it's a girl. -- you are handling it.
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Yes, three girls. I try. Keep
trying. That's the fun part! Let's
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try for a boy. You've chosen a name
already. Right
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already. Right now, it's Tia, that's
first choice, but you never know
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when a baby is born, suddenly, it's
something else.
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something else. Tia, it screams for
a second name. Like Maria?
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When you save Tia, I just hear
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Maria. What are you going to do with
the phone? Will you just disappear?
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In God! That would be so exciting,
and the two of you would be so
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jealous! -- I'm gone. I'm expecting
something very important as well.
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FedEx delivery. I'm getting some
shoes delivered and they are lovely.
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You don't want to miss them. I don't
want to be out, I'll have to go to
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the post office. Red since I last
saw you, your fantastic performance
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in Moonlight.
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Now, Moonlight at the Oscars, it is
now the stuff of legends, the end
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when they read out the wrong name,
and we've talked about it on the
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show before, and Warren Beatty has
been here and we asked him about it,
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but you ended up on stage, you went
up... Eventually. It took a while
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because I was sort of glued to my
seat in shock, and our producer
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dragged me on stage. Is it a nice
way to win, to have disappointment
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first and then, oh, yeah a! In a
way, because there's never been a
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moment before or since at the Oscars
like that, so it's quite cool, and
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everybody remembers it. On stage,
you were looking at the audience,
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and this is a great picture of Matt
Damon, shell-shocked, but I don't
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think anyone is quite as concerned
as Kate Hudson.
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as Kate Hudson. You seem really
taken. I really was. Meryl Streep
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seems less bothered. Meryl Streep is
composed. I thought I was seconds
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away from getting up on stage and
kissing somebody is asked, --
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somebody's arse, and I thought we
were in the middle somebody tried to
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hijack something. She had already
said yes to Rampage, and I was like,
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don't mess with my girl. Black
Panther, how not is that, Martin
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Freeman? Yes.
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Bigger than Titanic? I'm not sure,
but it's done very well and we are
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very proud. I bet you are! Sort of
taken on this extraordinary life
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beyond the movie. It feels like a
moment. It's lovely to be part of
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it. I heard you talking about going
to the Premier and it wasn't like
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anything you'd experienced. Sky it
was like football matches, properly
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vocal, witty much every fifth line
was pretty big chair. People were
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hungry for it, and it was more than
a film. I am a big believer in its
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still having to be a good film
because, if it's just important, and
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it's not a good film, who cares? It
has to be good, and the director was
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clever. On the poster, yourself and
Andy Serkis slightly stand out.
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Apparently the cast had a name for
the two of you. Because we had, we'd
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performed in The Hobbit before, so
we were known as the Tolkien white
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guys.
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That is a good joke!
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That is a good joke! Right, Glen
Johnson and Naomie Harris, bring us
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the monster movie Rampage, out now,
and it is proper escapist, family
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friendly son. -- Dwayne Johnson and
Naomie Harris. Gigantic monsters, us
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trying to save the world without
being eaten. Who do you play? I play
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a geneticist called Kate Caldwell,
responsible for creating a virus
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that infects Dewayne's character's
best friend, a silverback gorilla,
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and I feel guilty so I want to come
up with a cure. And you play, a
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primatologist? Villa yes, a
primatologist, and I used to head up
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a coaching unit, and my best friend,
as Naomie said, is a gigantic albino
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gorilla called George. There he is!
At a matter of fact, he was inspired
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by a real gorilla, the only albino
gorilla ever found, and passed away
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in 2002, called Snowflake. You went
to Barcelona? Yes. I went to see
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him. -- I went to see him. Oh, wow!
That was inspired by Stoker, you
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met. You thought you'd be working
with cardboard cutouts and things.
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Yeah, I did. One to seven, and then
the director would call from the
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sidelines, and get number two, the
building is falling down, number
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three, the alligator is coming
towards you, and that's all we had.
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But the man was George. Yes, we had
an actor who played the gorilla, and
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he was fantastic. Added that work
call? -- how did that work? George
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is enormous. In the movie, all of
the animals on normal size before
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they become infected with the
pathogen.
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pathogen. It was an amazing process.
As the gorilla group in the movie,
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we'd continue to put Jason on stands
where he got higher, so every moment
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in the movie, we were always acting
opposite a human being. You could
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look him in the eye. Yes, bearing in
mind it was on a crane. So you
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couldn't actually see his eyes! Is a
clip of the two of you trying to
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escape what is, essentially, a very
large dog. How do we get off this
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roof?
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roof? Maybe we don't have to. What?!
We do!
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We do! Come on! Leave it, there's
detail on this helicopter. We're not
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going to fly, we're going to crash.
-- there is no detail. OK, we just
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need to get enough grip to stay on
top of the building as it falls,
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like riding an avalanche. No, I
don't know! Very good. The life of
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an actor, I love this, you've worked
with tough guy James Bond but also
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with "The Rock". In terms of
toughness, who is tougher? Oh, my
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God! You finished one film and you
are hoping to do the next.
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I'm going to go with James Bond. But
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this one messes with crocodiles in
his spare time! Do you? Yes! Well,
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it's an alligator. I lived in
Florida -- I live in Florida, in the
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Everglades, and there's an alligator
sanctuary, and about six to eight of
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us pulled one out of the water and I
could get on it hold his jaw
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together. When you say a
sanctuary... I feel so safe here! !
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Alligator farm. Alligator pond. Very
quickly, I don't know if you guys
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talked about this, but you in the
next James Bond? Yes, I don't think
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she knows this. In You Only Live
Twice, my grandfather was a baddie.
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He looks like you, he really does.
This is him... He was a proper
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wrestler. He was. And you can see
him doing proper wrestling moves.
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This next bit, I think it's pretty
clear that wall is made of paper.
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. Sean Connery does something
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extraordinary. That's a very light
sofa. Yes!
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APPLAUSE
Was he the high chief?
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His wrestling name was,
his real name, was high chief Peter
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Meyerbeer, and he was a high chief
of Samoa, and the actually started
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his career in England.
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And he was trained
English-style, and at that
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time, in the 60s, I believe,
English style wrestling was...
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There was a lot of
what's called shoot
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wrestling, which eventually became
an MMA, so it was a very tough style
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of wrestling here in England,
and yeah, that's how he was trained.
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And we got that picture of him.
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Is this him as a wrestler,
because that is
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his wrestling gear,
or is that him as a chief?
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That is him as a pro wrestler
but wearing his high chief gear.
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And is it true that in Moana,
your character was based on him?
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Sure, correct.
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So a lot of the details of that
character was based off of my
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grandfather with the long hair
and the very big build and tattoos.
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And in Polynesian culture
and Samoan culture,
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to become a high chief,
you
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have tattoos 360 degrees
from your knees all the way up
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to your bottom of your test.
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Everything.
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And it's hard-core
and they do it with
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that.
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Yes.
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Everything Everything?
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Not everything.
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Well...
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That's what I heard.
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I heard everything.
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It's lifted, and then you...
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Oh!
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Because you've been
in that film now, do you
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get children wanting you to delight
them as your character?
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All the time.
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All the time.
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Like, its constant.
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Oh, will you sing a song?
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Sing your song, sing your song!
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And I do it and then
they cheer and then
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I say OK, well, have a good day.
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And they say, sing again!
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Constant, constant.
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He has a great voice, though.
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You should sing.
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Because it's the last day.
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I can't.
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I don't know...
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That looks like a man who wants to.
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All right, let's see.
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You want some music?
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# Listen, I could go on and on.
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# I could explain every
natural phenomenon.
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# The tide, the grass, the ground.
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# Oh, that was Maui messing around.
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# I killed the meerkat,
I buried its guts, spread
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# it on a tree, now
you got coconuts.
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# What's the lesson?
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# What does it take away?
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# Don't mess with me
when I'm on a breakaway.
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# And the tapestry here on my skin
is a map of the victories
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# I won.
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# Look where I've been.
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# I make everything happened.
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# Look at that Maui
just tickety toppin'.
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Thank you.
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That so impressive.
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Thank you.
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So, Martin, you're going to be in a
scary film. Yes, it is very similar
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to those olds Hammer horror films. I
would watch TV on Saturday night
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with a double bill of those horror
movies. I guess it borrows a bit
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from those, but all-new original
stories, based on the play by the
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same director. We will talk about it
in a minute, but first year is a
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taste of what to expect.
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taste of what to expect. You're
telling me you actually saw that
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happen? It is my understanding that
April to ago it is an evil spirit or
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an angry spirit. Is that true? There
is no evidence to support that. The
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guys at the hospital took a scam,
but they didn't want to show us.
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They said there were distortions on
the screen or something. Right in
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the middle of this Chinese thing.
Yeah, so the scan.
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Yeah, so the scan. A bit chilly.
Sorry, I... Have you ever killed
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anything, Mr Goodman? Certainly not.
Nothing you'll admit to it, anyway.
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APPLAUSE
They are clever chaps, the
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directors. Andy is brilliant in the
film as well. I really like it. It
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is enjoyably scary. It is a proper
horror film. No, it is not three
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hours of someone getting a hole
drilled into their skull or
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something like that. It's quite a
smart film, I think. It's weird
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because as a film... This is a genre
you recognise, but I didn't see it
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in the theatre. Did you? Because
apparently people were really
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freaked out. I know a few people who
are scared witless by the play. I
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didn't. I have done the play, the
Woman In Black, and getting a live
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reaction, a live, terrified reaction
from the audience is amazing because
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you are so used to having it on the
TV or maybe a film, but when you can
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occasionally elicit that reaction
from a lot of people in an
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auditorium, like a live theatre, is
so enjoyable because people are just
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terrified. Can you not think of
wanting to go somewhere in a room
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and in the dark and wanting to be
terrified? It's important, I think.
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It's enjoyable. It's weird, because
I don't know where the pleasure is.
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You leave like, "I'm still alive!" I
know some people, friends of mine,
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who could barely there to watch it
or they just look at the floor when
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there are scary bits coming. And
weirdly, or unusually, your
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character is very likeable. You're
normally quite a nice guy. I have
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played nice guys. I suppose I play
people with empathy. But this guy is
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not bad. No, he's quite obnoxious
and selfish. He's not a nice man.
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There are three ghost stories and
then Andy, who I am in a scene with
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there, he played somebody who's
life's workers to debunk the
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supernatural. He doesn't want anyone
to believe in anything. Your
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character? No. I am one of those
people who say, if you believe in
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the supernatural, what the hell
happened to me, then? So I explained
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the police in the supernatural
because of the terrible has happened
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to me. -- explained the belief.
You're not seeing it. Do you have
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down ghosts? Now he has to make a
remake wordy hands down ghosts and
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kills them. This film is not for
you. No,. I don't watch any horror
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films. The last one I watched was
Jolt and that was enough for me. Was
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at a similar thing, did you watch it
to young? No, I was old and I was
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still scared. I just can't do horror
movies. Poltergeist? Conjuring? None
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of them. I refuse. I knew there was
a skier coming so I was watching you
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to see if Dwayne would flinch. He
was waiting for the hunting. That
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monster is so close, why doesn't he
shoot it? It's in his face now. Oh,
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he's missed an opportunity there.
But some things do frighten you, or
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you don't like. Roller-coaster is?
Well... I have a thing of getting
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strapped in. You know with
roller-coaster 's that happy buyers
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that come down and locks and things
like that and then compression on my
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chest and shoulders and it just
hurts to freak me out. I'm not being
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weird, but would you even fit in one
of those? Maybe that was the
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problem. It's just comes out to
hear. That's probably the problem. I
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guess it developed in my mid-20s
when we were down at Universal,
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Florida, and it came down on me.
Maybe I was a little bit, but I felt
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it press so it just coloured me and
that was that. Have you had people
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or things pressing on your chest?
You were wrestling. I could push
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them off. Whereas you can't. Any
irrational fears in your life?
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Well, I think my fear's rational.
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Choking.
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I think choking is a
rational fear, isn't it?
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I mean...
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Maybe not.
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Well, are you scared
of choking all the time?
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Not all the time.
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You know something?
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I'm going to open up
to you because it's a bit
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like therapy and I've had two
gin and tonics.
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Every time I have an avocado,
every time I cut through an avocado
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and I see the stone,
I envisage that stone
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being lodged in my windpipe.
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And every time,
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I think I physically go...
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I can't stand it.
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Is it quite debilitating?
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I just don't have much avocado.
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Otherwise I'd be doing
it all the time.
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No, I've got a real thing, though.
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I've got real thing about choking.
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What if you're in
a hotel on your own?
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It could take days to find you.
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Well, has it happened to you?
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Yes, I've choked
to death many times.
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What is this?
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No wonder you're scared of it.
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No, it has.
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It has happened to me.
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Oh, you have choked on food?
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Yeah.
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And it's scary.
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Did somebody dislodge it?
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One time they did, actually.
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I did that show Never Mind
The Buzzcocks, and one time I'd
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had too many crisps.
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Because I'm a pig,
and I like eating crisps
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as quickly as possible,
so I hoovered these crisps down,
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and they weren't ready to go down.
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And they got lodged
and so I had a beer in my hand,
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and I was like doing that.
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And people were going...
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And so I had this beer and so it
all came out and thank God someone,
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an actor called Andy Smart,
who I've known for years,
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got behind me and did
the Heimlich manoeuvre,
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and I was very, very grateful.
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Because, as I understand it,
if you can still breathe or talk,
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then it's in the safe pipe.
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Or cough, or...
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Yes.
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And you're not going to die.
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But it feels very scary when you've
got something lodged in your throat.
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That's happened to me a few times.
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Last time that happened to me
was at Andy Serkis's house.
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Wait a minute, that's
happened to you a few times?
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Yes.
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Stop wolfing food down!
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Graham, it's fucking crisps!
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What do you want me to do?
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I'm not going to chew that shit.
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I just devour crisps.
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What are crisps, like a doughnut?
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Potato chips.
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Oh, oh...
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Yeah, yeah.
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It seems unlikely, doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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And also they're a bit jagged.
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Do you swallow them whole?
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You would think not.
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No, I do definitely
chew, but not enough.
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I'm in such a hurry to get
that crispy flavour.
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To get that cholesterol.
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Oh, I can't wait for your obituary.
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"He'd been warned many times."
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Now, I think you were asked if you
had any irrational fears or phobias,
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so put up your hands if you've got
fears and phobias. OK, I'm going
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into the audience. Here we go. Keep
your hands up. I'll start appear.
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Oh, there's a lady up here. Hello.
Stand up. What's your name? Carys.
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And what are you scared of? Crisps.
No! Argued as saying that? Why are
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you is geared of crisps? I did it
cause when I was ten and one of
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those girls had a multipack and they
spilled them all over the floor and
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there was this crisp dust
everywhere.
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everywhere. So it was just the crisp
dust that frightens you? Dust stand
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the smell. So you have never choked
on a crisp. She wouldn't have the
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chance! What's your name? Ahmed. And
what is your fear? It is very
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serious. I have a physical fear of
kids wearing suits. I like that!
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First confirmations, they are not
for you. It must be difficult at
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weddings. Yarra. Actually, my sister
is getting married in July but he
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said it would be OK and she would
make sure. The children would just
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be in jumpers and jeans. My question
is, if you see a kid with a sit on,
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what do you feel? My kids know about
my condition, so I was walking in
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the street and then my daughter told
me to look and there was a group of
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people and she said, " look!" And
there was a kid with a suit and a
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bow tie. I was in the
middle-of-the-road and my daughter
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was laughing at me. And you know
where this comes from? Actually, I
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think it be a trauma from a movie
where there was a killer dwarf.
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Children are getting the blame.
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Children are getting the blame. Do
stand up to. What's yours now? Sheep
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and goats. Mostly chic. It is the it
is the eyes. Have you seen the eyes
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of a sheep? The pupils are weird. I
can't deal with it. Does anybody
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know what he's talking about. Look
it up Google. They have the eyes of
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a serial killer. So a sheep in
sunglasses, fine. And when did you
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discover you were afraid of sheep
and goats? I went to Wales. That
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will do it.
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Children in suits is my favourite, I
accept that.
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Right, time to meet our final guest.
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He's the iconic front man of one
of our greatest rock bands, The Who.
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They've sold over 100 million albums
and broken records worldwide.
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Please welcome, for the first time,
the great Roger Daltrey.
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CHEERING
There he is! Hey! Hello, sir, nice
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to see you. That is Dwayne. Have a
seat, please. There you go. Welcome,
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sir, how are you? Very well. Welcome
back to the world of music with a
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new album, As Long As I Have You,
and that is out on June the 1st. And
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I suppose it's not quite what people
will expect from Roger Daltrey solo
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albums. Well, my solo albums were
always a hobby, but I've taken this
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one seriously. I've gone back to
doing the kind of music The Who used
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to do before Pete Townshend started
writing the songs, and I used to be
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a soul singer but, at 17, 18, 19,
you can sing the words and the
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notes, but there's not much soul in
their because you haven't lived a
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life. It's been great to revisit
them with the years I've got my belt
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now! Have you finished your memoir?
Yeah. And that out later in the
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year? October. It's called Thanks A
Lot, Mr Micklewhite. To the
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publishers know that? They know now!
He was my headmaster. I looked at
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the other rock biographies and I
didn't delay publishing deals and
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then write a book, I just wrote a
book and gave it to publishers. And
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they liked it, and I was shocked,
because I didn't want to be under
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the cosh of, we want more of that,
more of that. I wanted to write a
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book about what it felt like to be
in the middle of that whirlwind,
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what became the biggest band in the
world in the early, mid-70s, The
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Who, massive. Of course, we were
street kids from Shepherd's Bush,
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from around here. To deal with what
was loaded on us at 25 years old was
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so difficult, because it was an
industry that we were making up as
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we went along. Not to judge the
other members of The Who, but are
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usually only one who any of it? Pete
remembers a lot of it. There are big
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gaps that I don't remember. I've had
five quite bad concussions, so there
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are big gaps. I was the only
straight one with three addicts.
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Pete was an alcoholic, later a drug
addict, John was an alcoholic and
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cocaine addict, and Keith Moon was
in anything addict. Even Vim. It
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must have been hard, being that guy.
Somebody had to be straight, and it
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fell on me. You're a fan of 9/11,
but you like the whole look and
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everything? -- you are a fan of The
Who. The model being influenced my
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entire life. Are you sorry you
didn't end up in music, because it
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sounds like you like it more? I like
it more than anything. I can sing
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but you would want to hear my album.
-- you wouldn't want. Lots of people
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love The Who but, when it comes to
stereotypical archetypal rock bands,
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people smashing guitars and wrecking
hotel rooms, throwing TVs out that
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is all you. That wasn't me! That was
The Who who started that. Asda
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mainly Keith Moon and Pete
Townshend. -- mainly Keith Moon and
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Pete Townshend. Pete Townshend was
an instigator of quite a lot of it.
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It was all done in jest but now when
I think that a lot of it wasn't
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really very funny. There is one
thing we can talk about, because
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we've got a clip, a moment of
madness. Was it your life prime time
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debut on TV? Are you talking about
the Smothers brothers? It was the
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biggest show in America in its day,
1967, and they invited us on, and we
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were famous at the time for breaking
up our instruments with My
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Generation, and we did the rehearsal
and, on the same show, two of the
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biggest stars of their time were on
in the whole of the film industry.
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There was Betty Davis and Mickey
Rooney. Anyway, unbeknownst to us,
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we used to have this kind of thing
where the drums went boom and smoke
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came out, just a relatively tame
little thing, and Pete broke his
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guitars, and it was theatrics to go
with the noise the guitar made while
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it was being broken, like an animal
being slaughtered. When it came to
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the take, Keith Moon and got the
pirate technician drug -- -- Keith
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Moon had got the technician drunk
and gave him some dollars and he
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overcharged the canon and it went
off like a hand grenade.
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off like a hand grenade. People got
hurt, didn't they? Solo Keith Moon
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etiquette of shrapnel. It comes out
and he's holding his arm, with a
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piece of drum. Pete's hair caught
light, and if you see him, he's
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doing this. Betty Davis immediately
passes out at the side of the set
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and Mickey Rooney catches the Ed
Slater on, going, yea! This is, as
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described, some people finishing a
song, expecting an explosion, but
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it's a lot bigger. You can see the
camera work... Anyway. I get blown
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out shot, by the way. Wedge anyway.
Anyway.
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# It's my generation, baby
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LAUGHTER
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APPLAUSE
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That insane! Well, let's hope that
doesn't happen tonight.
478
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Roger, would you like to go
over to join your band?
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They are ready for you over there.
CHEERING
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Performing As Long As I Have You,
it is Roger Daltrey!
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# Born in darkness
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# But I fought my way up to the sun
483
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# I had a lot of battles
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# Some I lost and some I've won
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# But let me tell you, girl
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# You ain't seen nothing yet
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# Ain't nothing in this world
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# That I can't get
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# As long as I have you
As long as I have
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# Long as I have
As long as I have you
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# As long as I have you
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# Oh won't you give me
mountains to crumble
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# And I'll turn them to sand
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# Let me put this world
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# In the palm of your hand
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# Find some teardrops
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# But I sang my way out of the blues
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# Had to learn to stand up
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# Even when they scared
me out of my shoes
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# But let me tell you, girl
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# You ain't seen nothing yet
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00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
# There's nothing in this world
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# That I can't get
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# As long as I have you
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00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,240
# As long as I have you
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00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:40,920
# As long as I have you
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00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,080
# Oh, won't you give me
mountains to crumble
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00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200
# And I'll turn them to sand
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00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960
# Let me put this world
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00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,480
# In the palm of your hand
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# Say you love me
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# And I know that
half the battle is won
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# Don'tcha worry about nothing
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# In your mind the best
is yet to come
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# But let me tell you, girl
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# You ain't seen nothing yet
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00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,800
# There's nothing in this world
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# That I can't get
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00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040
# As long as I have you
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00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,240
# As long as I have you
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00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,800
# As long as I have you
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00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:38,360
# As long as I have you
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00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,840
# All night, all night
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# All day, all day
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# But let me tell you, girl
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# You ain't seen nothing yet
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# There's nothing in this world
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# That I can't get
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# As long as I have you
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# As long as I have you
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# As long as I have you
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# Oh, won't you give me mountains
to crumble... #
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CHEERING
534
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Oh! Roger Daltrey, everybody! Come
on back. Let's hear it for the band
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as well, ladies and gentlemen! That
band are amazing! That was
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fantastic, Roger. Take a seat beside
Martin. We are nearly out of here.
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That was terrific, really grateful I
tell you, we are all energised now.
538
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:54,240
-- really great. Time for a quick
visit the red chair. Who is there?
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What's your name? I'm Phil from
Surrey. What group that was good,
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I'm Phil from Surrey. What do you
do? I work in the public service.
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Tax? Police. Are you plain clothes?
I am tonight. Study his face!
542
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,080
I am tonight. Study his face! My mum
bought herself a circulation
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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,160
boosting machine that passes
electricity through your feet to
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boost blood circulation. She is 80
foot I would read to her house, she
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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,360
got out of the shower, she had her
dressing gown on, she was on the
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sofa and iPod, I'll not this up to
90% to make it work properly. -- and
547
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,640
I thought. My mum put her feet on
the machine, I turned it on, I had a
548
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:47,360
shriek from her, she fell back onto
the sofa. She kicked me in the jaw.
549
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:55,200
Her legs went ten to two.
LAUGHTER
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I think that scared us all a visual.
Have I? I hope I have. One more? OK.
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00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:17,440
Oh, the glamour! Hello, what's your
name? Sakena. What do you do? I'm a
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00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,600
patient advocate in mental health.
In half American, or Iraqi. I grew
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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000
up in New Zealand and I used to work
in a major art gallery, and this was
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at the time
555
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,840
at the time when The Hobbit was
being filmed because Ian McCallum
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00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,440
came in. I shook his hand and then
he started going to a part of the
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gallery where you need a ticket, so
I said, do you have a ticket and he
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said, no, I don't. I said, sorry,
you shall not pass. I quite liked
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that!
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Well done, everyone.
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If you'd like to join us on the show
and have a go in the red chair,
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you can contact us via our website
at this address.
563
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,280
That's it for tonight.
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00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Please say thank you to my guests -
Roger Daltrey...
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CHEERING
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Martin Freeman...
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00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:10,760
Naomie Harris...
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And Dwayne Johnson.
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Join me next week with musical
guests Calvin Harris and Dua Lipa,
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hot from the kitchen Mary Berry
and Claudia Winkleman,
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actor Maxine Peake,
Episodes star Matt LeBlanc,
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and Dr Strange himself,
Benedict Cumberbatch.
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I'll see you then.
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00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:30,720
Goodnight.
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