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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,134 --> 00:00:29,134 Subtitles by explosiveskull 2 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:17,659 I'll only be about an hour. 3 00:01:24,266 --> 00:01:26,133 It shifted about an eighth of an inch. 4 00:01:26,135 --> 00:01:27,634 - Which? - One of the 12s. 5 00:01:27,636 --> 00:01:29,603 Hm, it's not as bad as I thought, okay. 6 00:01:29,605 --> 00:01:33,107 Hey, Jim owes me $40. I need a pair of boots. 7 00:04:53,041 --> 00:04:54,476 You okay? 8 00:04:56,344 --> 00:04:57,913 I got this, yeah. 9 00:05:19,101 --> 00:05:22,772 Just... you do it. 10 00:05:23,805 --> 00:05:25,407 I'm useless. 11 00:05:30,846 --> 00:05:32,281 Okay. 12 00:05:46,027 --> 00:05:47,963 Fuck. 13 00:06:00,541 --> 00:06:04,546 She explicitly asked me not to be there today. 14 00:06:07,115 --> 00:06:09,149 I'll see you Saturday. 15 00:06:09,151 --> 00:06:12,385 What's Saturday? 16 00:06:12,387 --> 00:06:13,589 The Swan Parade. 17 00:06:15,557 --> 00:06:18,592 Have you gone through the house recently? 18 00:06:18,594 --> 00:06:20,827 Why? 19 00:06:20,829 --> 00:06:22,027 Alcohol. 20 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:25,431 Your mother is not an alcoholic. 21 00:06:25,433 --> 00:06:27,433 She made a mistake. She paid the price for it- 22 00:06:27,435 --> 00:06:29,969 I was talking about her parole conditions. 23 00:06:29,971 --> 00:06:32,507 But... thank you. 24 00:06:40,449 --> 00:06:42,849 Have you spoken to her about selling the house? 25 00:06:42,851 --> 00:06:44,587 Of course I have. 26 00:06:47,923 --> 00:06:49,856 Do you want me to not ask you 27 00:06:49,858 --> 00:06:51,123 how that conversation went? 28 00:06:51,125 --> 00:06:52,993 If you'd be so kind. 29 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:54,530 Did Mark move? 30 00:07:01,135 --> 00:07:03,436 Not as far as I know. 31 00:07:03,438 --> 00:07:05,073 Hmm. 32 00:07:24,493 --> 00:07:26,560 Hi, Mama. 33 00:07:26,562 --> 00:07:31,164 Hi. 34 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,620 Yo, how's it going? 35 00:07:53,622 --> 00:07:56,522 - Oh, fantastic. - Okay. 36 00:07:56,524 --> 00:07:57,626 Uh... 37 00:08:00,529 --> 00:08:03,128 You think about what you're gonna order for years, 38 00:08:03,130 --> 00:08:05,130 and then, um, wow, you... 39 00:08:05,132 --> 00:08:07,534 It just looks really different when you see the menu. 40 00:08:07,536 --> 00:08:10,506 Yeah. Did you just come from Glassmore? 41 00:08:11,673 --> 00:08:14,508 - Yeah. - Right on. 42 00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:17,077 You must get a lot of people... 43 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:20,246 Yeah. I mean... don't worry. 44 00:08:20,248 --> 00:08:23,183 I won't... won't ask you what you did or anything. 45 00:08:23,185 --> 00:08:25,519 I'll run you through the options, though. 46 00:08:25,521 --> 00:08:27,156 We'll get you set up. We'll get you set up. 47 00:09:06,261 --> 00:09:08,627 Well, all that's missing is a banner. 48 00:09:12,568 --> 00:09:15,605 - Thirsty? - I'd kill for a glass of wine. 49 00:09:16,738 --> 00:09:18,507 It's pretty soon, Mom. 50 00:09:22,578 --> 00:09:25,345 Hey, don't sit down. We're celebrating. 51 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,116 I know you're probably gonna want 52 00:09:30,118 --> 00:09:33,019 to have a talk with me at some point. 53 00:09:33,021 --> 00:09:35,755 I'm prepared for that. I want to as well. 54 00:09:35,757 --> 00:09:39,159 Well, not tonight. We're celebrating. 55 00:09:39,161 --> 00:09:40,693 Does she know? 56 00:09:40,695 --> 00:09:44,029 We're a little bit light on glassware. 57 00:09:45,767 --> 00:09:48,635 Um... 58 00:09:48,637 --> 00:09:50,337 okay, um... 59 00:09:50,339 --> 00:09:53,209 good to have me back. 60 00:09:58,714 --> 00:10:00,616 Mmm. 61 00:10:11,059 --> 00:10:12,759 This can all just go in the trash. 62 00:10:12,761 --> 00:10:15,061 I don't even want to donate it. 63 00:10:15,063 --> 00:10:17,163 Why not donate? 64 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:19,064 I just don't want to be walking down the street 65 00:10:19,066 --> 00:10:20,232 and see somebody else wearing that 66 00:10:20,234 --> 00:10:23,403 and hate it all over again. 67 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:25,270 Speaking of florals, 68 00:10:25,272 --> 00:10:26,872 Wendy called like three weeks ago. 69 00:10:26,874 --> 00:10:28,710 She wondered when you were getting out. 70 00:10:30,711 --> 00:10:32,746 What did she say, exactly? 71 00:10:32,748 --> 00:10:35,151 Um, she wants to see you. 72 00:10:36,718 --> 00:10:38,083 Did you ask her, 73 00:10:38,085 --> 00:10:39,752 or did she bring it up unprompted? 74 00:10:39,754 --> 00:10:43,255 Um, she called and asked when you were getting released. 75 00:10:43,257 --> 00:10:45,424 So I told her, and then I asked her if she wanted 76 00:10:45,426 --> 00:10:48,827 to hang out with you, and she said yes. 77 00:10:48,829 --> 00:10:50,700 So she didn't suggest it. 78 00:10:58,105 --> 00:11:01,610 Can you pass me that basket, El? Thank you. 79 00:11:07,214 --> 00:11:09,683 Well, what does it matter if she suggested it? 80 00:11:09,685 --> 00:11:12,419 I'm not gonna apologize for being curious. 81 00:11:12,421 --> 00:11:14,688 No one's asking you to apologize, Mom. 82 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:16,722 Yeah, I would have to guess you're wrong about that. 83 00:11:16,724 --> 00:11:18,290 Well, I don't think that she would call 84 00:11:18,292 --> 00:11:19,893 if she didn't want to hang out with you. 85 00:11:19,895 --> 00:11:21,461 You're assuming that I want to see her. 86 00:11:21,463 --> 00:11:24,130 Yeah, and why wouldn't I assume that? 87 00:11:24,132 --> 00:11:25,698 Is her husband still sick? 88 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,735 He died. Blood disease. 89 00:11:28,737 --> 00:11:30,437 Well, there you go. 90 00:11:30,439 --> 00:11:33,372 I don't want to be associated with that kind of sadness. 91 00:11:33,374 --> 00:11:35,942 Okay. 92 00:11:35,944 --> 00:11:38,381 Well, I'm not gonna force to have friends. 93 00:11:45,353 --> 00:11:47,256 Keep that. That's nice. 94 00:12:59,294 --> 00:13:00,763 Yeah. 95 00:13:04,266 --> 00:13:06,832 Um, is now a good time? 96 00:13:06,834 --> 00:13:08,233 How do you mean? 97 00:13:08,235 --> 00:13:10,803 Sorry, uh, is now a good time to talk? 98 00:13:10,805 --> 00:13:13,972 I mean, I don't want to interrupt your, uh, family time, 99 00:13:13,974 --> 00:13:16,943 but, uh... it's kind of hard to wait. 100 00:13:16,945 --> 00:13:20,313 I'll understand if you want to give it more time, for sure. 101 00:13:20,315 --> 00:13:22,450 No. No, no. Sorry, come in. 102 00:13:28,256 --> 00:13:30,423 Um, can you take your boots off? 103 00:13:30,425 --> 00:13:32,495 - Yeah, no problem. - Thanks. 104 00:13:34,061 --> 00:13:37,864 - Yep. - Come on in. 105 00:13:37,866 --> 00:13:42,271 Um... you're not gonna believe who's here. 106 00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:46,442 Hey, Zoe. 107 00:13:51,546 --> 00:13:53,579 - Eleanor. - Hi. 108 00:13:53,581 --> 00:13:56,985 - Is it okay if I sit here? - Oh, of course. 109 00:13:59,487 --> 00:14:02,388 As you can see, everything's pretty much the same. 110 00:14:02,390 --> 00:14:04,890 It's kind of like a time capsule. 111 00:14:07,896 --> 00:14:09,529 Do you want to talk privately? 112 00:14:09,531 --> 00:14:10,929 No, this is okay, 113 00:14:10,931 --> 00:14:13,600 as long as you guys are okay with it. 114 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:15,300 - Sure. - Yeah. 115 00:14:15,302 --> 00:14:16,371 Cool. 116 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:19,572 So you're still in the neighborhood. 117 00:14:19,574 --> 00:14:22,875 - How's that? - Oh, you know, same. 118 00:14:22,877 --> 00:14:25,077 Kind of a time capsule. 119 00:14:25,079 --> 00:14:26,913 Except for the new subdivision. 120 00:14:26,915 --> 00:14:29,548 - I don't know if you've seen that. - No. 121 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:31,417 Anyway, what I wanted to say was... 122 00:14:31,419 --> 00:14:34,587 I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt. But here we are, eating. 123 00:14:34,589 --> 00:14:36,325 Just... 124 00:14:43,531 --> 00:14:46,632 So did they legally have to tell you she was on the loose? 125 00:14:46,634 --> 00:14:49,468 Oh, I don't know what their obligations were, 126 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:52,071 - but they did tell me. - Who told you? 127 00:14:52,073 --> 00:14:53,608 Someone came by. 128 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:58,544 What have you been doing? 129 00:14:58,546 --> 00:14:59,982 Not a lot. 130 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:06,151 It's probably all a bit cold. 131 00:15:06,153 --> 00:15:08,087 - Here. - Thank you. 132 00:15:08,089 --> 00:15:11,459 Um, there's toast. 133 00:15:14,161 --> 00:15:17,163 I didn't ask about your mother. How is she? 134 00:15:17,165 --> 00:15:20,500 She, um... she's not with us anymore. 135 00:15:20,502 --> 00:15:21,967 Oh. 136 00:15:21,969 --> 00:15:24,603 I didn't get all the neighborhood 137 00:15:24,605 --> 00:15:26,505 news updates, I guess. 138 00:15:26,507 --> 00:15:28,507 What I was gonna say before is that you shouldn't feel, 139 00:15:28,509 --> 00:15:32,077 um, obligated to move out of the neighborhood 140 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:34,013 or anything like that. 141 00:15:34,015 --> 00:15:37,516 Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. 142 00:15:37,518 --> 00:15:39,117 I don't know if you remember this 143 00:15:39,119 --> 00:15:41,553 but I tried to visit you in prison a couple of times, 144 00:15:41,555 --> 00:15:44,189 and they told me that you weren't feeling well. 145 00:15:44,191 --> 00:15:46,558 Yeah, well, I wasn't feeling well most days. 146 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,395 But I'm really sorry I didn't get a chance 147 00:15:49,397 --> 00:15:51,496 - to apologize to you. - Oh. 148 00:15:51,498 --> 00:15:54,600 I didn't know how to even go about it. 149 00:15:54,602 --> 00:15:56,669 I mean, what do you say about a thing like that? 150 00:15:56,671 --> 00:15:59,005 But, you know, you had every right to an apology, 151 00:15:59,007 --> 00:16:00,707 for wanting that apology... 152 00:16:00,709 --> 00:16:03,141 Actually, I didn't come here looking for an apology. 153 00:16:03,143 --> 00:16:06,412 But thank you, though, for saying that I deserved one. 154 00:16:06,414 --> 00:16:08,614 Um... I guess I was just hoping to hear 155 00:16:08,616 --> 00:16:10,549 your account of what happened. 156 00:16:10,551 --> 00:16:13,151 I read everything in the papers, and the lawyers talked to me, 157 00:16:13,153 --> 00:16:15,587 but everything happened pretty fast. 158 00:16:15,589 --> 00:16:19,092 And, uh, yeah, I would just love to hear from you, 159 00:16:19,094 --> 00:16:22,662 in your words, in the interests of... 160 00:16:22,664 --> 00:16:25,030 closure. 161 00:16:25,032 --> 00:16:27,500 Oh, okay, I don't know what else I could tell you 162 00:16:27,502 --> 00:16:30,635 that you didn't already read, but, um... 163 00:16:30,637 --> 00:16:34,439 uh... I drank and drove. 164 00:16:34,441 --> 00:16:38,678 I was driving too fast and not paying attention, 165 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,148 and a German Shepherd bounded out into the street 166 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:45,617 chasing God only knows what, and, um... 167 00:16:45,619 --> 00:16:47,587 I made a big mistake. 168 00:16:47,589 --> 00:16:51,057 I panicked and swerved, 169 00:16:51,059 --> 00:16:54,726 and instead of hitting the dog, I hit... 170 00:16:54,728 --> 00:16:57,099 something else, as you know. 171 00:17:01,536 --> 00:17:03,604 Yeah, that's pretty much what I remember. 172 00:17:06,207 --> 00:17:07,508 Okay. 173 00:17:10,478 --> 00:17:12,812 The German shepherd, I guess that's why the... 174 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,782 the angle of impact was so extreme. 175 00:17:15,784 --> 00:17:17,486 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 176 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,486 Was it the Axels' German shepherd? 177 00:17:21,488 --> 00:17:24,122 - Sorry? - The Axels' German shepherd? 178 00:17:24,124 --> 00:17:25,557 From the corner at Radcliffe. 179 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:28,527 They have the garden gnomes on the lawn. 180 00:17:28,529 --> 00:17:30,196 Oh, yes, yeah. 181 00:17:30,198 --> 00:17:32,501 Yeah, that's the only big dog that I can remember. 182 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:45,710 Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile. 183 00:17:45,712 --> 00:17:48,848 No, I'm not either, and if it's any comfort to you, 184 00:17:48,850 --> 00:17:52,118 I'm... I'm pretty sure that old dog 185 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,188 would be a pile of dust now in some landfill 186 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:58,623 or maybe in their backyard. 187 00:17:58,625 --> 00:18:01,296 - The Axels? - Yeah, in the Axels' backyard. 188 00:18:11,538 --> 00:18:16,274 I should go. I should've given you more time. 189 00:18:16,276 --> 00:18:18,844 No, you've waited long enough. That's fine. 190 00:18:18,846 --> 00:18:20,612 And thanks for breakfast. 191 00:18:20,614 --> 00:18:22,617 Thank you for forgiving me. 192 00:18:26,286 --> 00:18:27,753 I'll see you guys later. 193 00:18:27,755 --> 00:18:30,059 Bye, Mark. 194 00:18:41,201 --> 00:18:42,671 - See you around. - I hope so. 195 00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:59,584 How did Mark's mother die? 196 00:18:59,586 --> 00:19:01,123 She killed herself. 197 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:06,659 Maybe you could make a list of all the other people 198 00:19:06,661 --> 00:19:09,161 who died while I was away. 199 00:19:09,163 --> 00:19:10,865 That would be helpful. 200 00:20:40,955 --> 00:20:45,824 ...is about that tall, you know? 201 00:20:45,826 --> 00:20:49,361 No matter how many times I pass by your house, 202 00:20:49,363 --> 00:20:51,330 I see you outside there. 203 00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:53,999 You grew. 204 00:20:54,001 --> 00:20:56,835 Guilty. 205 00:20:56,837 --> 00:20:59,272 "Guilty." That's good. 206 00:20:59,274 --> 00:21:00,505 Guilty as charged. 207 00:21:00,507 --> 00:21:01,907 Yeah. 208 00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:04,744 So what can we help you with today? 209 00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:07,912 Oh, uh, well, I was just wondering, um... 210 00:21:07,914 --> 00:21:10,448 you... you used to have a German shepherd. 211 00:21:10,450 --> 00:21:11,950 Jackson. 212 00:21:11,952 --> 00:21:15,723 Jackson, that's right. When did he die? 213 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:19,927 Why? 214 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:25,765 Okay, well, uh... not sure if you're aware of this, 215 00:21:25,767 --> 00:21:29,401 but Valerie Walker claimed that a German shepherd 216 00:21:29,403 --> 00:21:34,073 ran in front of her vehicle right before she hit my Dad. 217 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:37,043 I was not aware, no. 218 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:41,913 Do you... you think Jackson might have been that dog? 219 00:21:41,915 --> 00:21:43,884 That's why I'm here. 220 00:21:47,388 --> 00:21:48,890 Hmm, well... 221 00:21:50,757 --> 00:21:53,325 What year was the accident? 222 00:21:53,327 --> 00:21:55,928 - It was 2007. - 2007. 223 00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:57,365 Hmm. 224 00:21:58,565 --> 00:21:59,968 Hmm. 225 00:22:01,869 --> 00:22:05,338 Hmm. 226 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,911 Well, let's see, we got him in ninety... um... 227 00:22:12,779 --> 00:22:14,045 When did we get him? 228 00:23:19,013 --> 00:23:20,946 Oh, hi. Valerie. 229 00:23:20,948 --> 00:23:22,480 Jonah? 230 00:23:22,482 --> 00:23:25,886 Yes. Nice to meet you in person. 231 00:23:32,427 --> 00:23:36,898 Would you happen to have a spade or a small shovel? 232 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,046 Springtime. 233 00:23:55,048 --> 00:23:58,149 They tend to run head-first into their own reflections 234 00:23:58,151 --> 00:24:00,619 thinking they're being protective. 235 00:24:00,621 --> 00:24:02,090 Snap their necks. 236 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:06,091 Something about their color makes them prone. 237 00:24:06,093 --> 00:24:08,028 I... I don't know. 238 00:24:15,969 --> 00:24:18,236 I understand that there's no confidentiality 239 00:24:18,238 --> 00:24:22,541 between myself and Jonah here. 240 00:24:22,543 --> 00:24:24,476 And do you understand why? 241 00:24:24,478 --> 00:24:26,046 Oh, and I understand why. 242 00:24:28,114 --> 00:24:29,515 Thank you. 243 00:24:29,517 --> 00:24:31,050 Uh, so we're clear, 244 00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:33,552 you said that there's no confidentiality 245 00:24:33,554 --> 00:24:34,986 - between us and... - Is that wrong? 246 00:24:34,988 --> 00:24:37,555 No, not wrong, not incorrect 247 00:24:37,557 --> 00:24:39,925 in the sense that I have to report 248 00:24:39,927 --> 00:24:41,960 anything incriminating you might say 249 00:24:41,962 --> 00:24:45,197 but incorrect in that there's a great deal of confidentiality, 250 00:24:45,199 --> 00:24:48,601 and you can trust that anything we talk about is private 251 00:24:48,603 --> 00:24:50,535 unless there are extreme circumstances 252 00:24:50,537 --> 00:24:52,537 where the law needs to get involved. 253 00:24:52,539 --> 00:24:54,073 Should I just record that again? 254 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,076 Oh, no need. 255 00:25:01,681 --> 00:25:03,082 I drank green tea for years. 256 00:25:03,084 --> 00:25:06,084 Never knew about the antioxidants. 257 00:25:06,086 --> 00:25:08,521 Thank you so much for making a house call. 258 00:25:08,523 --> 00:25:10,959 A perk of you not having a license. 259 00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:16,227 Is this, uh... are you new to the field? 260 00:25:16,229 --> 00:25:18,229 No. 261 00:25:18,231 --> 00:25:19,698 Oh. 262 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,699 Never been asked that before. 263 00:25:21,701 --> 00:25:24,104 I just have no frame of reference. 264 00:25:26,207 --> 00:25:28,172 Uh, so, um... you know, 265 00:25:28,174 --> 00:25:30,642 I have a fair number of questions that I have to ask you 266 00:25:30,644 --> 00:25:33,078 and others that I'd like to ask you. 267 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,750 But is there anything you'd like to ask me? 268 00:25:39,085 --> 00:25:42,220 I'm sorry, I don't have any more questions. 269 00:25:42,222 --> 00:25:46,024 Okay. So, first off, 270 00:25:46,026 --> 00:25:47,993 is there any chance of you returning to work 271 00:25:47,995 --> 00:25:49,562 at the plant in any capacity? 272 00:25:49,564 --> 00:25:51,229 I would assume no. 273 00:25:51,231 --> 00:25:53,000 Do you like working in sales? 274 00:26:03,577 --> 00:26:05,143 Is that stuff good? 275 00:26:05,145 --> 00:26:08,613 This? It's the best. 276 00:26:08,615 --> 00:26:11,115 Mmm. I've heard that. 277 00:26:11,117 --> 00:26:12,186 Yeah? 278 00:26:13,754 --> 00:26:16,589 So you have a lawn then? 279 00:26:16,591 --> 00:26:18,193 No, I don't have a lawn. 280 00:26:24,198 --> 00:26:26,265 I like your plaque. 281 00:26:26,267 --> 00:26:28,199 Thanks. 282 00:26:28,201 --> 00:26:32,204 I can put you in touch with my guy if you want. 283 00:26:32,206 --> 00:26:34,640 You want to walk? 284 00:26:34,642 --> 00:26:36,177 I'm gonna walk. 285 00:26:49,323 --> 00:26:50,755 Where to? 286 00:26:50,757 --> 00:26:53,627 Mm... 287 00:26:56,663 --> 00:26:58,697 You're still married? 288 00:26:58,699 --> 00:27:00,765 Uh, well, yes, technically. 289 00:27:00,767 --> 00:27:03,701 Technically, yeah. 290 00:27:03,703 --> 00:27:05,704 But you're, um... 291 00:27:05,706 --> 00:27:08,273 you'll be staying here in this house alone? 292 00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:09,874 For now. 293 00:27:09,876 --> 00:27:11,409 You're comfortable living alone, I assume? 294 00:27:11,411 --> 00:27:13,812 Yes, yes. Mm-hmm. 295 00:27:13,814 --> 00:27:17,682 Um, living alone, are there any concerns 296 00:27:17,684 --> 00:27:20,084 that come to mind with that? 297 00:27:20,086 --> 00:27:21,756 Carbon monoxide. 298 00:27:23,257 --> 00:27:26,227 Huh. 299 00:27:28,828 --> 00:27:30,862 Seriously, what do you feel 300 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:35,234 is the number-one threat to your freedom? 301 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:38,607 Well, I guess I would have to say you, wouldn't I? 302 00:27:40,106 --> 00:27:44,776 Not the answer I was thinking of, but, uh... 303 00:27:44,778 --> 00:27:47,615 yes, theoretically. 304 00:27:49,115 --> 00:27:52,119 But what would make me a threat to you freedom? 305 00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:57,790 What about alcohol? 306 00:27:57,792 --> 00:28:01,826 Oh, that's not a threat. Alcohol won't be an issue. 307 00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:05,264 So, that feels like a mistake to me, I have to say. 308 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,399 Consider that the only time your freedom 309 00:28:07,401 --> 00:28:09,701 has been taken from you was because of drinking. 310 00:28:09,703 --> 00:28:13,471 That works out to 100%. 311 00:28:13,473 --> 00:28:15,407 I'm gonna speak candidly because I think 312 00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:17,141 it's just going to save us a lot of time. 313 00:28:17,143 --> 00:28:19,277 Great. 314 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,913 I exaggerated my drinking during the trial. 315 00:28:21,915 --> 00:28:26,150 I know I drank too much that night. 316 00:28:26,152 --> 00:28:28,219 But I thought the judge and jury wouldn't be happy 317 00:28:28,221 --> 00:28:31,156 if I didn't say I had a problem. 318 00:28:31,158 --> 00:28:36,231 So I just went along with any language about alcoholism. 319 00:28:42,737 --> 00:28:44,439 Okay, um... 320 00:28:46,239 --> 00:28:48,207 Thank you for your honesty. 321 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:51,843 Still, you know, I have a number of clients 322 00:28:51,845 --> 00:28:55,514 who would drink all the time if they could. 323 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,783 You'd consider that to be an issue 324 00:28:57,785 --> 00:28:59,985 with alcohol, wouldn't you? 325 00:28:59,987 --> 00:29:03,455 Well, most of them haven't taken a life. 326 00:29:03,457 --> 00:29:07,191 So, um, you might understand how I would see 327 00:29:07,193 --> 00:29:08,927 your relationship with alcohol as a problem. 328 00:29:08,929 --> 00:29:12,363 No, I understand. I just wanted to make it clear. 329 00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:14,466 I don't respond well to alcohol, 330 00:29:14,468 --> 00:29:20,272 which I, you know, triumphantly proved. 331 00:29:20,274 --> 00:29:23,342 So... I won't be drinking again. 332 00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:25,009 Okay. 333 00:29:25,011 --> 00:29:27,979 Well, you know, as long as you meet your conditions 334 00:29:27,981 --> 00:29:32,417 and attend your scheduled meetings, uh, which start... 335 00:29:32,419 --> 00:29:33,854 Tomorrow. 336 00:29:35,523 --> 00:29:38,422 Yep, uh, as long as you do that, 337 00:29:38,424 --> 00:29:41,360 then we don't have to talk about this any further right now. 338 00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:43,031 Okay. Mm-hmm. 339 00:29:53,407 --> 00:29:55,506 They've been developing this for, like, 340 00:29:55,508 --> 00:29:57,245 three or four years. 341 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,516 I think it's changed hands a few times. 342 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:10,522 They're gonna dig all of this up over here. 343 00:30:10,524 --> 00:30:12,994 A lot of garbage under here, I think. 344 00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:21,300 I guess when this is all done, 345 00:30:21,302 --> 00:30:23,936 the property values on your house will go up. 346 00:30:23,938 --> 00:30:26,537 Do you wish we'd sell? 347 00:30:26,539 --> 00:30:28,940 No, did it come across that way? 348 00:30:28,942 --> 00:30:30,876 A bit. 349 00:30:30,878 --> 00:30:32,476 Well, if that really mattered to me, 350 00:30:32,478 --> 00:30:34,412 I could just sell my own home. 351 00:30:34,414 --> 00:30:36,415 Well, I'm not sure that's the same thing, 352 00:30:36,417 --> 00:30:39,554 but whatever you say. 353 00:30:43,324 --> 00:30:45,893 I suppose I kind of embarrassed myself this morning. 354 00:30:53,566 --> 00:30:55,335 Can I say something sad? 355 00:30:57,103 --> 00:30:59,438 Might as well. 356 00:31:01,107 --> 00:31:03,344 Did you have help with your mom? 357 00:31:07,046 --> 00:31:10,050 You know, she was pretty good about hiding it. 358 00:31:13,053 --> 00:31:15,957 I didn't really understand what was going on, to be honest. 359 00:31:22,962 --> 00:31:25,397 Fuck. 360 00:31:25,399 --> 00:31:28,332 Yeah. 361 00:31:28,334 --> 00:31:30,369 Anybody notice with your mom? 362 00:31:30,371 --> 00:31:32,004 What do you mean? 363 00:31:32,006 --> 00:31:33,438 With her drinking? 364 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,474 Oh. No. 365 00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:37,378 It was only that one time. 366 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,616 Fuckin' 30 feet from home. 367 00:31:45,619 --> 00:31:49,353 Then came the German shepherd. 368 00:31:49,355 --> 00:31:51,358 Then came the German shepherd. 369 00:31:53,393 --> 00:31:54,495 Yeah. 370 00:31:56,063 --> 00:31:58,999 But not trying to make you feel sorry for her. 371 00:32:03,437 --> 00:32:04,969 How is she? 372 00:32:04,971 --> 00:32:06,638 My mom? 373 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,609 Uh... not good with apologies. 374 00:32:10,611 --> 00:32:12,544 It's okay to talk about it, honestly. 375 00:32:12,546 --> 00:32:14,146 What happened to my family is way worse 376 00:32:14,148 --> 00:32:17,515 than what happened to your family. 377 00:32:17,517 --> 00:32:20,584 So it's not like you'll be making me feel bad or something. 378 00:32:20,586 --> 00:32:25,524 Okay. Um... well, she's not doing good. 379 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:29,460 Um... her friend Wendy's calling, 380 00:32:29,462 --> 00:32:31,095 and she thinks that, like, 381 00:32:31,097 --> 00:32:34,065 she doesn't deserve to have friends. 382 00:32:34,067 --> 00:32:35,534 I'm sure I didn't help with that. 383 00:32:35,536 --> 00:32:37,069 No, oh, my God, it's not your fault. 384 00:32:37,071 --> 00:32:39,040 She should have fucking apologized. 385 00:32:40,407 --> 00:32:42,040 So Wendy from the plant? 386 00:32:42,042 --> 00:32:44,743 Yeah. 387 00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:46,210 I always liked Wendy. 388 00:32:46,212 --> 00:32:48,115 Yeah, me too. 389 00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:37,728 Is your mother asleep? 390 00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:40,200 Uh, I think so, yeah. 391 00:33:41,768 --> 00:33:43,537 Almond milk? 392 00:33:49,075 --> 00:33:52,544 Did she say that it was okay for you to stay over tonight? 393 00:33:52,546 --> 00:33:55,647 What difference does it make if I'm here tonight 394 00:33:55,649 --> 00:33:56,751 or tomorrow morning? 395 00:33:59,585 --> 00:34:01,620 You know, me keeping you updated about what's happening here 396 00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:05,056 is not a cry for help, right, you know that? 397 00:34:05,058 --> 00:34:07,258 Yeah, yeah, I just thought 398 00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:09,795 it would be better if I was here. 399 00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:12,266 Who let him in? 400 00:34:13,232 --> 00:34:15,766 Mom did. 401 00:34:15,768 --> 00:34:17,736 And... and you think he's... 402 00:34:17,738 --> 00:34:20,308 I don't think that he thinks it was an accident. 403 00:34:22,109 --> 00:34:24,112 Unfortunately. 404 00:34:26,647 --> 00:34:28,779 Have you talked to her? 405 00:34:28,781 --> 00:34:30,515 No. 406 00:34:30,517 --> 00:34:32,750 She said that she wants to, but I don't know 407 00:34:32,752 --> 00:34:35,319 what she expects me to say 408 00:34:35,321 --> 00:34:38,291 "Hey, Mom, you made it worse for me"? 409 00:34:40,627 --> 00:34:42,861 What she's done shouldn't be on your conscience, 410 00:34:42,863 --> 00:34:44,261 not... not for a second. 411 00:34:44,263 --> 00:34:46,797 Okay. 412 00:34:46,799 --> 00:34:48,699 That's a relief. 413 00:34:48,701 --> 00:34:53,337 Well... if she had telephoned the police, 414 00:34:53,339 --> 00:34:56,743 Mr. Loekner would be getting out of prison now. 415 00:35:04,817 --> 00:35:07,754 She's never even admitted to me that she killed him on purpose. 416 00:35:23,303 --> 00:35:25,772 Sometimes I do feel happy that he's dead. 417 00:35:28,709 --> 00:35:30,174 But there are other times 418 00:35:30,176 --> 00:35:32,180 when I would just like to talk about it. 419 00:35:35,681 --> 00:35:37,315 I'd just like to have that option. 420 00:35:37,317 --> 00:35:39,187 I don't know, I've read it's... 421 00:35:40,721 --> 00:35:42,290 valuable. 422 00:35:45,259 --> 00:35:47,361 You can talk to me about it. 423 00:35:51,797 --> 00:35:54,602 Do you actually want to listen to me talk about it? 424 00:36:05,678 --> 00:36:08,348 Am I interrupting? 425 00:36:12,386 --> 00:36:15,719 I had it in my head that we agreed you'd come tomorrow. 426 00:36:15,721 --> 00:36:19,357 Yeah, yeah. We had agreed on that, yeah. 427 00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,627 Um... I don't have to sleep here if it bothers you. 428 00:36:22,629 --> 00:36:24,431 No, I don't want to trouble you. 429 00:36:26,265 --> 00:36:28,766 What time is the Internet guy coming tomorrow? 430 00:36:28,768 --> 00:36:32,670 Um, between 10:00 and 12:30. 431 00:36:32,672 --> 00:36:34,241 Okay. 432 00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:12,973 Hi. 433 00:38:18,911 --> 00:38:21,011 It's a... a frittata. 434 00:38:21,013 --> 00:38:22,513 I figured you'd be hungry 435 00:38:22,515 --> 00:38:24,516 after all the work you've been doing. 436 00:38:24,518 --> 00:38:27,018 I didn't get a chance to bake it, 437 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:31,056 so it needs about 25 minutes at 350, and it should be fine. 438 00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:33,357 I was going to bake it, but I didn't want 439 00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,363 to miss my chance to give it to you. 440 00:38:37,431 --> 00:38:39,333 That's very nice, thank you. 441 00:38:42,935 --> 00:38:48,038 I, um... I thought it was uncomfortable at breakfast. 442 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,841 - Yeah. - Yeah, I gotta say, 443 00:38:49,843 --> 00:38:53,777 I just don't understand your fascination with the dog. 444 00:38:53,779 --> 00:38:55,045 That's okay. 445 00:38:55,047 --> 00:38:58,482 You know, if it was to embarrass me, I... 446 00:38:58,484 --> 00:39:00,387 I'm not trying to embarrass you. 447 00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:04,491 Well, what then? 448 00:39:08,527 --> 00:39:10,862 You know... 449 00:39:10,864 --> 00:39:15,533 my mom was on a lot of medication before she died. 450 00:39:15,535 --> 00:39:20,074 But she told me that she thought she understood what you did. 451 00:39:21,841 --> 00:39:23,808 What do you think that means? 452 00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:26,846 I think it means she was on a lot of medication. 453 00:39:31,484 --> 00:39:32,553 Maybe. 454 00:39:39,826 --> 00:39:42,530 Okay, great chatting with you as always. 455 00:39:47,033 --> 00:39:48,933 I'm pretty sure it's gonna snow. 456 00:39:48,935 --> 00:39:52,840 So it might be a good excuse for you to go inside now. 457 00:41:06,011 --> 00:41:07,946 What are you measuring? 458 00:41:07,948 --> 00:41:11,482 Uh, it's to optimize your installation. 459 00:41:11,484 --> 00:41:13,551 Yeah, but how? 460 00:41:13,553 --> 00:41:14,953 So I can put the router here. 461 00:41:14,955 --> 00:41:17,522 What if we want it in the kitchen? 462 00:41:17,524 --> 00:41:19,123 Sure, yeah, cool. 463 00:41:19,125 --> 00:41:22,092 Could've just told me where you wanted it off the top, 464 00:41:22,094 --> 00:41:23,596 but it's all good. 465 00:41:25,498 --> 00:41:27,535 How was your night last night, Zoe? 466 00:41:29,669 --> 00:41:33,071 Uh, okay so just right here by the, uh, phone? 467 00:41:33,073 --> 00:41:36,074 - It's fine, Greg- - Yes, thank you. 468 00:41:36,076 --> 00:41:37,674 My night was fine. 469 00:41:37,676 --> 00:41:39,946 Good. What'd you two talk about? 470 00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:48,589 Is there a problem? 471 00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:54,093 Have you guys talked about this already? 472 00:41:56,161 --> 00:41:57,962 She has to live across the street from him. 473 00:41:57,964 --> 00:41:59,531 I know, but I don't really understand 474 00:41:59,533 --> 00:42:03,600 why you guys don't feel bad for him. 475 00:42:03,602 --> 00:42:05,036 If there's nothing to talk about, 476 00:42:05,038 --> 00:42:06,670 there's no need to get defensive. 477 00:42:06,672 --> 00:42:08,640 There is, though, 'cause all of a sudden, 478 00:42:08,642 --> 00:42:11,775 I feel like I'm betraying my family. 479 00:42:11,777 --> 00:42:14,078 What are you worried about? I don't understand. 480 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080 I'm only worried if there's reason to worry. 481 00:42:16,082 --> 00:42:18,719 But if you're telling us not, that's the end of it. 482 00:42:32,299 --> 00:42:35,169 So, going to the parade still? 483 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,138 Yep. 484 00:45:10,756 --> 00:45:12,158 Can I get you anything, Mom? 485 00:45:15,194 --> 00:45:17,495 - Want some coffee? - No, I'm fine. 486 00:45:17,497 --> 00:45:18,795 Can I take your coat? 487 00:45:18,797 --> 00:45:20,498 No. 488 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:21,935 Okay. 489 00:45:44,424 --> 00:45:48,426 Uh, that was Eleanor who dropped you off? 490 00:45:48,428 --> 00:45:49,493 Yes. 491 00:45:49,495 --> 00:45:51,995 - How's she doing? - She's well. 492 00:45:51,997 --> 00:45:54,200 - Oh, good. - Mm-hmm. 493 00:45:57,504 --> 00:46:00,471 I guess I should come out with it and... 494 00:46:00,473 --> 00:46:05,342 and tell you I'm sorry I didn't visit you in there. 495 00:46:05,344 --> 00:46:06,777 No need. 496 00:46:06,779 --> 00:46:08,980 Okay. 497 00:46:08,982 --> 00:46:11,848 So you, uh... you have a grandson. 498 00:46:11,850 --> 00:46:15,553 I saw the picture. I didn't know. 499 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:16,953 - Yeah. - Ah. 500 00:46:16,955 --> 00:46:19,556 Dylan. Dill, I call him. 501 00:46:19,558 --> 00:46:21,558 Ah. 502 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,828 Dill. 503 00:46:23,830 --> 00:46:25,495 So that's Kathleen's kid? 504 00:46:25,497 --> 00:46:26,964 Mm-hmm. 505 00:46:26,966 --> 00:46:30,467 Well, I'd like to meet him some time. 506 00:46:30,469 --> 00:46:31,805 Mmm. 507 00:46:37,810 --> 00:46:40,877 So you're doing crafts. You work in a craft, like... 508 00:46:40,879 --> 00:46:42,245 Craft store. 509 00:46:42,247 --> 00:46:44,915 - Oh, do you like working there? - I do, yeah. 510 00:46:44,917 --> 00:46:48,386 And you never thought about going back to bookkeeping then? 511 00:46:48,388 --> 00:46:50,257 No. No. 512 00:46:56,995 --> 00:46:58,998 When did you quit at the plant? 513 00:47:01,267 --> 00:47:04,402 Uh, not long after. 514 00:47:04,404 --> 00:47:05,603 A few weeks. 515 00:47:05,605 --> 00:47:08,438 That was fast. 516 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,509 Yeah. 517 00:47:14,346 --> 00:47:19,016 Did anybody ever ask any questions, like why you quit? 518 00:47:19,018 --> 00:47:24,388 Well... in the normal process of leaving, sure. 519 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:28,960 I just said "personal reasons." 520 00:47:28,962 --> 00:47:31,064 I didn't mean in the company. 521 00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:45,542 Uh, Wendy, you don't have to do that. 522 00:47:45,544 --> 00:47:48,047 No, it's okay. Mom doesn't mind. 523 00:48:19,478 --> 00:48:23,080 What do you mean, you didn't mean the company? 524 00:48:23,082 --> 00:48:28,585 The police? I didn't talk to the police. 525 00:48:28,587 --> 00:48:31,091 What about Mark Loekner? 526 00:48:34,593 --> 00:48:38,364 No, I have not spoken to Mark Loekner. 527 00:48:50,977 --> 00:48:52,145 I guess... 528 00:48:54,614 --> 00:49:00,016 I can only guess at what you saw that day 529 00:49:00,018 --> 00:49:02,987 when you walked into that room 530 00:49:02,989 --> 00:49:07,060 and the kind of hatred that would cause. 531 00:49:08,527 --> 00:49:14,000 But I'd rather be 99% sure than the full 100. 532 00:49:15,033 --> 00:49:17,036 I'm not a good enough liar. 533 00:49:20,739 --> 00:49:22,408 Okay. 534 00:49:28,714 --> 00:49:30,616 I... 535 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:36,152 Hello, nice to meet you. 536 00:49:36,154 --> 00:49:39,656 Oh, you, too. That was very polite. 537 00:49:39,658 --> 00:49:40,690 Thank you. 538 00:49:40,692 --> 00:49:42,426 Grandma, I know you said 539 00:49:42,428 --> 00:49:44,594 I wasn't supposed to come downstairs, 540 00:49:44,596 --> 00:49:47,998 but I can't get the tap to shut off. 541 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,201 Okay, I'll be up in a sec. 542 00:49:50,203 --> 00:49:52,105 - Bye. - Bye. 543 00:49:59,578 --> 00:50:00,680 Now I met him. 544 00:50:09,455 --> 00:50:11,591 Let's try this again on another day. 545 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:16,694 I think you should give Eleanor a call 546 00:50:16,696 --> 00:50:18,464 before she gets too far. 547 00:50:20,198 --> 00:50:22,168 The phone's where it always was. 548 00:50:59,571 --> 00:51:01,638 How'd it go? 549 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,742 Funny. 550 00:51:12,151 --> 00:51:15,252 I think one of us needs to tell Mark. 551 00:51:15,254 --> 00:51:16,120 No. 552 00:51:16,122 --> 00:51:17,687 Yes. 553 00:51:17,689 --> 00:51:19,656 - It would destroy him. - I think he needs to know. 554 00:51:19,658 --> 00:51:23,627 I think that it's going to be brutal at first, 555 00:51:23,629 --> 00:51:25,261 and it will be a lot to contend with, 556 00:51:25,263 --> 00:51:27,163 but I think that's it gonna give him somewhere 557 00:51:27,165 --> 00:51:30,669 to direct his anger other than just at you. 558 00:51:33,872 --> 00:51:37,276 I'd rather he direct his anger at me. 559 00:51:42,681 --> 00:51:45,683 I don't think that that's going to be good enough. 560 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:47,154 Okay, that's fine. 561 00:51:52,692 --> 00:51:54,692 At what point do I get to call the shots 562 00:51:54,694 --> 00:51:56,096 on what happened to me? 563 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,699 Well, if we tell him, 564 00:52:02,701 --> 00:52:06,705 it'll implicate me for murder, you realize. 565 00:52:08,373 --> 00:52:11,574 No I don... what's he gonna do? 566 00:52:11,576 --> 00:52:14,745 Go around and tell everybody that his father's a rapist? 567 00:52:14,747 --> 00:52:16,315 What if he does? 568 00:52:18,216 --> 00:52:20,618 Well, he... what does he say? 569 00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:21,721 Just... 570 00:52:25,757 --> 00:52:27,757 I'll handle Mark. 571 00:52:27,759 --> 00:52:30,261 Okay, you'll handle him. 572 00:52:30,263 --> 00:52:32,598 You're gonna make him another fucking casserole. 573 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,169 It was a frittata. 574 00:53:04,763 --> 00:53:06,230 - Hi. - Hi. 575 00:53:06,232 --> 00:53:08,299 - I'm Mark Loekner. - Hi, I'm Karen. 576 00:53:08,301 --> 00:53:11,368 - I thought you might be. - Yeah, nice to see you. 577 00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:12,969 I didn't think you were Karen. 578 00:53:12,971 --> 00:53:14,871 - So you gonna join us? - That's right, yeah. 579 00:53:14,873 --> 00:53:16,674 - If that's all right. - Absolutely. 580 00:53:16,676 --> 00:53:18,641 I'm not sure if there's anything I need to sign. 581 00:53:18,643 --> 00:53:20,710 Oh, yeah, there's... But we can do that after. 582 00:53:20,712 --> 00:53:22,379 Make yourself comfortable. 583 00:53:22,381 --> 00:53:24,982 We've got some coffee over there and some treats. 584 00:53:24,984 --> 00:53:27,717 - You can meet everybody. - Great, sounds great. 585 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,390 - Thanks very much. - Well, thank you for coming. 586 00:53:53,312 --> 00:53:56,813 Oh, that's empty. The last of it's in here. 587 00:53:56,815 --> 00:53:59,817 Someone had the good idea to make a pot of decaf. 588 00:54:06,692 --> 00:54:08,424 Is it okay that I'm here? 589 00:54:08,426 --> 00:54:10,960 I've been meaning to come to these meetings for some time. 590 00:54:10,962 --> 00:54:14,832 But I never imagined I'd pick the same one as you. 591 00:54:14,834 --> 00:54:16,303 Are you can alcoholic? 592 00:54:17,736 --> 00:54:19,439 I don't know. Are you? 593 00:54:23,709 --> 00:54:24,977 Showtime. 594 00:54:51,469 --> 00:54:53,272 Why are you staring at the ground? 595 00:54:55,341 --> 00:54:58,978 I think someone maybe buried that bird that hit the window. 596 00:55:07,886 --> 00:55:09,886 Do you think Mom did that? 597 00:55:09,888 --> 00:55:11,490 How would I know? 598 00:55:18,797 --> 00:55:20,864 What happened this morning? 599 00:55:20,866 --> 00:55:24,567 I just... I don't think that we should underestimate 600 00:55:24,569 --> 00:55:25,902 how angry Mark might be. 601 00:55:25,904 --> 00:55:27,770 We shouldn't underestimate him? 602 00:55:27,772 --> 00:55:30,373 Do you think that, like, pretending he doesn't exist 603 00:55:30,375 --> 00:55:32,542 is gonna like, pacify him or something? 604 00:55:32,544 --> 00:55:34,377 No, but I think it's okay that she asked you 605 00:55:34,379 --> 00:55:36,382 what you guys talked about. 606 00:55:38,049 --> 00:55:40,516 Okay, cool. 607 00:55:40,518 --> 00:55:43,453 I'm not gonna, like, beg for answers here. 608 00:55:43,455 --> 00:55:45,522 But just let me know whenever you think 609 00:55:45,524 --> 00:55:48,027 I can handle whatever you're not telling me. 610 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,600 Sorry, I don't exactly know what to say. 611 00:55:57,602 --> 00:56:02,473 Uh, didn't get a lot of sleep last night. 612 00:56:02,475 --> 00:56:05,408 Was kind of counting on a cup of coffee to get me through, 613 00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:07,411 but, uh, I guess somebody thought it would be a good idea 614 00:56:07,413 --> 00:56:09,446 to put on a pot of decaf. 615 00:56:11,917 --> 00:56:14,585 Um... 616 00:56:14,587 --> 00:56:18,955 so I started drinking after my mom, um, 617 00:56:18,957 --> 00:56:20,556 took her own life. 618 00:56:20,558 --> 00:56:24,895 She didn't cope well with my father's death. 619 00:56:24,897 --> 00:56:27,931 And he was, uh, 620 00:56:27,933 --> 00:56:31,100 run over in front of our house 621 00:56:31,102 --> 00:56:35,575 by a friend of his who was drunk. 622 00:56:38,444 --> 00:56:41,645 So, uh, my mom waited until I was 18. 623 00:56:41,647 --> 00:56:46,417 Until I was a an adult, I guess, and, uh... 624 00:56:47,585 --> 00:56:50,857 well, she decided to clock out. 625 00:56:53,591 --> 00:56:56,592 Drinking seemed like the adult way to handle that, I guess. 626 00:56:56,594 --> 00:56:59,929 And, uh... 627 00:57:01,167 --> 00:57:04,868 I don't really talk about it a lot, 628 00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:07,073 but I would like to start. 629 00:57:09,174 --> 00:57:13,479 So I guess that's... what I have to say. 630 00:57:15,647 --> 00:57:17,681 Well, that's a fine first go. 631 00:57:17,683 --> 00:57:23,953 Your story of loss was not only heard... 632 00:57:23,955 --> 00:57:25,658 but listened to. 633 00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:30,594 Well, I'll be honest. 634 00:57:30,596 --> 00:57:34,897 I'm thinking a Band-Aid ripping type situation 635 00:57:34,899 --> 00:57:37,000 might be best here, 636 00:57:37,002 --> 00:57:39,636 i.e., newbie number two 637 00:57:39,638 --> 00:57:42,605 having her first kick at the can. 638 00:57:42,607 --> 00:57:43,910 How about it? 639 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,913 Not right now, I don't think. 640 00:57:50,915 --> 00:57:54,153 Oh, okay. Anybody else? 641 00:57:55,488 --> 00:57:57,056 Liam. 642 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,556 Yep. 643 00:58:33,558 --> 00:58:36,225 Jonah is here. 644 00:58:36,227 --> 00:58:39,164 I-I put him at the dining room table. 645 00:58:41,634 --> 00:58:43,600 Tomorrow morning, I think you should come 646 00:58:43,602 --> 00:58:45,101 to the other house. 647 00:58:45,103 --> 00:58:47,270 - To your house? - Yeah. 648 00:58:47,272 --> 00:58:49,672 No, I'm gonna stay here, I think. 649 00:58:49,674 --> 00:58:51,308 Okay, if you're concerned about me 650 00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:53,109 getting the wrong idea, don't be. 651 00:58:53,111 --> 00:58:55,112 I'll go to a hotel. 652 00:58:55,114 --> 00:58:56,749 No, I'm gonna stay here. 653 00:59:05,156 --> 00:59:07,593 I'll tell him you'll be down in a sec. 654 01:00:24,803 --> 01:00:28,071 I dropped my daughter off at her mother's on the way here, 655 01:00:28,073 --> 01:00:29,672 and she had some colleagues over, 656 01:00:29,674 --> 01:00:32,808 and she offered me some of the finger foods. 657 01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:35,312 Okay. 658 01:00:35,314 --> 01:00:37,681 Jim, help yourself to any of these. 659 01:00:37,683 --> 01:00:39,415 I can't even eat most of them on account of the fact 660 01:00:39,417 --> 01:00:41,217 that I can't eat lactose, there's... 661 01:00:41,219 --> 01:00:44,353 Thanks. Appetite's been promised elsewhere. 662 01:00:44,355 --> 01:00:47,790 Going out to get some Chinese, give you guys some privacy. 663 01:00:47,792 --> 01:00:50,359 - Girls? - Chinese is a great choice. 664 01:00:50,361 --> 01:00:52,429 Valerie, I'll pick something up for you. 665 01:00:52,431 --> 01:00:54,364 Sure. 666 01:00:54,366 --> 01:00:57,833 You want some, Jonah? 667 01:00:57,835 --> 01:01:00,170 Uh, no, no. Thanks, though. 668 01:01:00,172 --> 01:01:01,608 Positive? 669 01:01:04,176 --> 01:01:07,844 What are the chances they have a beef and black bean sauce? 670 01:01:07,846 --> 01:01:10,382 Yeah, yeah, they got that. It's one of my faves. 671 01:01:13,185 --> 01:01:15,252 Yes, I'll have it. Thank you. 672 01:01:15,254 --> 01:01:17,788 - Okay, good. - You know, what? Uh, no. 673 01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:20,190 I don't know if I'll be here when you get back. 674 01:01:20,192 --> 01:01:22,795 - Thank you, though. - Okay, suit yourself. 675 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:40,777 I don't need to explain to you why I'm here, I don't think. 676 01:01:40,779 --> 01:01:43,116 Yes I know. It won't happen again. 677 01:01:47,185 --> 01:01:48,884 You see, um, you told me that alcohol 678 01:01:48,886 --> 01:01:50,353 wouldn't be a problem, 679 01:01:50,355 --> 01:01:53,359 but I classify leaving a meeting as a problem. 680 01:01:56,428 --> 01:01:58,395 You need to understand that this is technically 681 01:01:58,397 --> 01:02:00,897 a violation of your terms. 682 01:02:03,368 --> 01:02:05,304 - May I? - It's fine. 683 01:02:07,872 --> 01:02:10,272 - Did the group leader... - Karen? 684 01:02:10,274 --> 01:02:12,408 Did she tell you what happened? 685 01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:14,780 She told me you got up and left. 686 01:02:16,748 --> 01:02:20,484 Do you remember the man that I hit? 687 01:02:20,486 --> 01:02:22,284 Uh, Michael Loekner. 688 01:02:22,286 --> 01:02:25,223 Right. His son was there. 689 01:02:26,457 --> 01:02:28,794 - His son was... - At the meeting. 690 01:02:30,995 --> 01:02:33,797 Oh. 691 01:02:33,799 --> 01:02:35,268 I'll be right back. 692 01:02:49,814 --> 01:02:54,817 I came to apologize. I-I... I crossed the line. 693 01:02:54,819 --> 01:02:56,920 I should have left as soon as I saw you there. 694 01:02:56,922 --> 01:02:59,025 And I didn't, and I'm sorry. 695 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,493 I do want to talk to you 696 01:03:03,495 --> 01:03:06,364 about what's appropriate and what's not. 697 01:03:08,901 --> 01:03:10,833 But right now's not a good time. 698 01:03:10,835 --> 01:03:13,370 Oh, uh, well, Jim and your daughters just drove by me 699 01:03:13,372 --> 01:03:15,272 so I thought now would be a a good time. 700 01:03:15,274 --> 01:03:16,940 No, it's not a good time. 701 01:03:16,942 --> 01:03:19,009 If I may... 702 01:03:19,011 --> 01:03:21,310 I couldn't help but overhear. 703 01:03:21,312 --> 01:03:25,882 You must be Michael's son. My name's Jonah. 704 01:03:25,884 --> 01:03:28,551 Mark, how are you? 705 01:03:28,553 --> 01:03:30,886 My condolences. 706 01:03:30,888 --> 01:03:32,823 Thanks? 707 01:03:32,825 --> 01:03:36,393 Mark, this is my parole officer, if you hadn't already guessed. 708 01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:39,261 I heard about the meeting. 709 01:03:39,263 --> 01:03:42,531 Yeah, unfortunate, um, overlap there. 710 01:03:42,533 --> 01:03:44,069 I'll say. 711 01:03:46,071 --> 01:03:48,839 You know, this is a good opportunity. 712 01:03:48,841 --> 01:03:51,875 Address this thing head on, and while your life, Mark, 713 01:03:51,877 --> 01:03:55,344 is none of my business, the parts that now intersect 714 01:03:55,346 --> 01:03:58,582 with this case, with Valerie... 715 01:03:58,584 --> 01:04:00,051 they become it. 716 01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:04,420 - They become it? - Become part of my business. 717 01:04:04,422 --> 01:04:06,890 What... what I'm saying is if you two are gonna have 718 01:04:06,892 --> 01:04:09,292 a discussion about boundaries, let's do it the right way. 719 01:04:09,294 --> 01:04:10,897 I can mediate. 720 01:04:15,033 --> 01:04:18,000 That's a seafood puff pastry, 721 01:04:18,002 --> 01:04:20,103 and that is a homemade spanakopita, 722 01:04:20,105 --> 01:04:21,605 which my ex-wife's 723 01:04:21,607 --> 01:04:26,076 girlfriend Carey described earlier to me, as divine. 724 01:04:26,078 --> 01:04:28,047 - Great. - Yes. 725 01:04:31,116 --> 01:04:33,917 So, uh, Mark, tell... tell me about today. 726 01:04:33,919 --> 01:04:37,520 Were you aware that Valerie was gonna be at the meeting? 727 01:04:37,522 --> 01:04:41,024 Because if you were there for the sake of sobriety, 728 01:04:41,026 --> 01:04:44,361 of course, I'm all for that, but looking at it 729 01:04:44,363 --> 01:04:46,629 from another way could easily point 730 01:04:46,631 --> 01:04:50,335 to a catastrophic invasion of privacy. 731 01:04:51,569 --> 01:04:54,670 Well, I did want to go to the meeting. 732 01:04:54,672 --> 01:04:58,109 But I also did have an idea that Valerie might be there. 733 01:05:00,011 --> 01:05:01,944 I've been holding onto a lot anger. 734 01:05:01,946 --> 01:05:04,413 As soon as she left, I realized 735 01:05:04,415 --> 01:05:08,150 I'd made a big mistake in how to go about handling it. 736 01:05:08,152 --> 01:05:12,355 Okay. So what are we gonna do about it? 737 01:05:12,357 --> 01:05:15,158 My opinion is we need more information, 738 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,592 more transparency. 739 01:05:16,594 --> 01:05:18,627 Can I suggest a topic for us to discuss, 740 01:05:18,629 --> 01:05:20,496 - or is there a... - In a way. 741 01:05:20,498 --> 01:05:22,498 These things tend to work better 742 01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:25,634 with fewer personal elements at play. 743 01:05:25,636 --> 01:05:30,375 If you'll indulge me, I'm gonna give you these cards. 744 01:05:37,582 --> 01:05:40,616 If you have a question that you're struggling 745 01:05:40,618 --> 01:05:43,987 to ask out loud, you write it on the card, 746 01:05:43,989 --> 01:05:49,725 and I'll read it out, and, uh... like a buffer. 747 01:05:49,727 --> 01:05:53,096 Then we can discuss calmly. Does that sound... 748 01:06:12,183 --> 01:06:14,417 "How did you feel about my father?" 749 01:06:14,419 --> 01:06:16,685 Uh, I'm speaking on Mark's behalf, obviously. 750 01:06:16,687 --> 01:06:20,022 I wouldn't expect you to have feelings about my father. 751 01:06:20,024 --> 01:06:21,693 Not many people do. 752 01:06:24,562 --> 01:06:28,063 Can I, um... yeah. 753 01:06:28,065 --> 01:06:30,433 Michael was great. He was funny. 754 01:06:30,435 --> 01:06:32,701 He had a very dry sense of humor. 755 01:06:32,703 --> 01:06:37,676 He was very polite to me. He was a warm man. 756 01:06:39,111 --> 01:06:42,045 You weren't at the funeral. 757 01:06:42,047 --> 01:06:45,181 Well, I thought it would be selfish to show my face. 758 01:06:45,183 --> 01:06:46,583 That makes sense. 759 01:06:46,585 --> 01:06:48,717 I'm guessing you remember Wendy Barnes? 760 01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:50,252 - You guys were friends, right? - Yeah. 761 01:06:50,254 --> 01:06:51,654 She she didn't show up either. 762 01:06:51,656 --> 01:06:53,223 Everyone else from the plant was there. 763 01:06:53,225 --> 01:06:57,594 Was that some kind of a solidarity thing or... 764 01:06:57,596 --> 01:06:59,261 I don't know. 765 01:06:59,263 --> 01:07:01,096 Then she quit like two weeks after. 766 01:07:01,098 --> 01:07:04,734 I'm just... I guess I hope she handled everything okay. 767 01:07:07,571 --> 01:07:10,075 - Have you seen her yet? - Yeah. 768 01:07:14,078 --> 01:07:15,680 Did you want to get that? 769 01:07:21,085 --> 01:07:23,089 I'll be right back. 770 01:07:31,629 --> 01:07:34,763 You have one new voice... 771 01:07:34,765 --> 01:07:37,100 First voice message. 772 01:07:37,102 --> 01:07:39,238 Val, um... 773 01:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,675 Mark came to my house. 774 01:07:44,308 --> 01:07:47,580 He asked if you had a reason for killing Michael. 775 01:07:54,518 --> 01:07:56,522 I didn't say anything, but... 776 01:07:59,091 --> 01:08:00,759 I wasn't prepared. 777 01:08:04,796 --> 01:08:06,129 I'm sorry. 778 01:08:14,172 --> 01:08:15,672 - Everything okay? - Mm-hmm. 779 01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:17,740 A friend of mine's gonna visit here soon, 780 01:08:17,742 --> 01:08:20,110 and she's got... we've got nine possible plans 781 01:08:20,112 --> 01:08:21,311 for us to do together... 782 01:08:21,313 --> 01:08:23,780 Am I allowed to ask you a question? 783 01:08:23,782 --> 01:08:25,548 All right. 784 01:08:25,550 --> 01:08:27,717 Um... 785 01:08:27,719 --> 01:08:30,719 Have you ever heard of a case in which a person 786 01:08:30,721 --> 01:08:33,722 committed a crime in car and then drank after the fact, 787 01:08:33,724 --> 01:08:39,329 to make it seem like they'd just been drinking and driving? 788 01:08:39,331 --> 01:08:41,563 The person was sober before? 789 01:08:41,565 --> 01:08:43,833 - That's right. - Not that I can think of. 790 01:08:43,835 --> 01:08:49,172 So does anybody ever question drunk driving or... 791 01:08:49,174 --> 01:08:51,176 Uh, question how? 792 01:08:52,777 --> 01:08:54,677 Well, let's say you wanted to kill someone, right? 793 01:08:54,679 --> 01:08:56,678 You could just go ahead and do it and say, 794 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,714 "Yep, I did it," you could do that. 795 01:08:58,716 --> 01:09:01,683 Or, you could try to claim that you were mentally ill. 796 01:09:01,685 --> 01:09:04,387 But then there's a whole... what, a vetting process, 797 01:09:04,389 --> 01:09:06,755 and you run the risk of being institutionalized 798 01:09:06,757 --> 01:09:09,892 - or medicated... - This seems to be getting off topic. 799 01:09:09,894 --> 01:09:11,793 No, no, it's the topic. 800 01:09:11,795 --> 01:09:14,797 So, hypothetically, let's just say that Valerie 801 01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:17,333 wanted to kill my father, which we know isn't true, 802 01:09:17,335 --> 01:09:20,869 because she thought he was warm, but let's just say she did. 803 01:09:20,871 --> 01:09:22,938 She saw him. She ran him down. 804 01:09:22,940 --> 01:09:27,343 Could she not then drink after the fact, 805 01:09:27,345 --> 01:09:29,648 plead guilty to a lesser charge? 806 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,722 Well, I'm not sure what the point would be. 807 01:09:40,724 --> 01:09:43,959 She swerves from a dog, hits someone, 808 01:09:43,961 --> 01:09:46,628 six months' jail, maybe. 809 01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:48,700 Well, pretend there's no dog. 810 01:09:53,337 --> 01:09:56,705 Well, there would need to be motive. 811 01:09:56,707 --> 01:09:59,344 Otherwise, people make mistakes. 812 01:10:01,779 --> 01:10:05,380 What would be her motive? Hypothetically. 813 01:10:05,382 --> 01:10:07,883 Well, yeah, I mean, that's... that's... 814 01:10:07,885 --> 01:10:10,255 that's just it, isn't it? 815 01:10:19,264 --> 01:10:20,963 I'm getting the distinct feeling 816 01:10:20,965 --> 01:10:24,267 that I was missing some context before I suggested talking, 817 01:10:24,269 --> 01:10:25,704 the three of us. 818 01:10:28,872 --> 01:10:31,740 Do you want me to fill him in, or do you want to? 819 01:10:31,742 --> 01:10:32,678 Go ahead. 820 01:10:34,446 --> 01:10:39,414 Mark thinks I'm lying. That's very clear to me now. 821 01:10:39,416 --> 01:10:42,884 And I should've told you, but I didn't want to alarm you, 822 01:10:42,886 --> 01:10:44,721 and I didn't think he'd come over here and make 823 01:10:44,723 --> 01:10:46,489 - a fool out of himself. - You have lied. 824 01:10:46,491 --> 01:10:49,359 Why would you give details about something you weren't sure... 825 01:10:49,361 --> 01:10:52,695 The dog? That's the big lie you've uncovered? 826 01:10:52,697 --> 01:10:54,830 Well, the dog, the cat, the fucking hamster 827 01:10:54,832 --> 01:10:56,732 you swerve around is inconsequential 828 01:10:56,734 --> 01:10:58,500 - when you're drunk. - But you weren't drunk, though. 829 01:10:58,502 --> 01:11:00,969 What didn't you understand about the penalty being worse 830 01:11:00,971 --> 01:11:01,971 for driving drunk? 831 01:11:01,973 --> 01:11:03,772 Why would I drink after? 832 01:11:03,774 --> 01:11:06,342 So you wouldn't be charged with murder! 833 01:11:06,344 --> 01:11:07,977 And if you drink beforehand, you you run the risk 834 01:11:07,979 --> 01:11:10,012 of missing your target, I mean, come on! 835 01:11:10,014 --> 01:11:13,516 You don't accelerate towards somebody unless you're trying 836 01:11:13,518 --> 01:11:15,785 - to commit murder... - I'm gonna show you to the door now. 837 01:11:15,787 --> 01:11:17,719 Maybe we can all meet in a more controlled setting 838 01:11:17,721 --> 01:11:19,321 once you both have calmed down. 839 01:11:19,323 --> 01:11:21,227 Hang on a second. 840 01:11:32,836 --> 01:11:34,739 Could you sit down, please? 841 01:11:46,350 --> 01:11:49,321 Jonah, I'm sorry that you had to be here for this. 842 01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:17,049 Why? 843 01:12:40,404 --> 01:12:44,309 Jonah, I got you some of that black bean... 844 01:12:45,844 --> 01:12:48,878 Oh. Stay back girls. 845 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,051 Will the three of you come into this room here, please? 846 01:12:53,984 --> 01:12:59,558 And, um, put your phones on the table and have a seat? 847 01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:10,035 Thank you. 848 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,055 Do they know? 849 01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:34,990 I mean, I'm guessing Jim knows, right? 850 01:13:34,992 --> 01:13:36,558 Mark, what are you doing? 851 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,195 Oh, uh, your mom killed my dad on purpose. 852 01:13:39,197 --> 01:13:41,530 Wendy Barnes told me. 853 01:13:41,532 --> 01:13:43,134 Wendy didn't say anything. 854 01:13:49,674 --> 01:13:52,008 Mom, you tell him right now or I will. 855 01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:55,043 - Eleanor. - Tell me what? 856 01:13:55,045 --> 01:14:00,016 Mark... it's time to go home, son. 857 01:14:00,018 --> 01:14:02,154 Don't call me that. Tell me what? 858 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,689 Mom? 859 01:14:19,069 --> 01:14:20,605 Nothing. 860 01:14:22,607 --> 01:14:24,042 Wow. 861 01:14:33,651 --> 01:14:36,552 You took my fucking family from me. 862 01:14:36,554 --> 01:14:39,658 The least you can do is tell me why. 863 01:14:46,997 --> 01:14:48,533 Mark... 864 01:14:57,175 --> 01:15:00,109 I think we should all just take a moment and reassess. 865 01:15:00,111 --> 01:15:01,546 No... 866 01:15:37,148 --> 01:15:38,750 BB gun. 867 01:15:43,121 --> 01:15:46,121 Are you okay? 868 01:15:46,123 --> 01:15:48,024 Think I should get to a hospital. 869 01:15:48,026 --> 01:15:49,691 May have nicked a vein. 870 01:15:49,693 --> 01:15:52,227 Get... get me my phone. 871 01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:54,065 I'll get a towel. 872 01:15:58,569 --> 01:16:01,803 Hi, could I get an ambulance to 240 Dunsmere? 873 01:16:01,805 --> 01:16:04,774 Someone has been shot in the neck by a... a BB, 874 01:16:04,776 --> 01:16:07,778 and a young man has been struck in the head by a blunt object. 875 01:16:11,616 --> 01:16:15,520 Road, 240 Dunsmere Road. Okay, bye. 876 01:16:25,063 --> 01:16:26,797 Is what Mark said the truth? 877 01:16:29,834 --> 01:16:31,569 Yeah. 878 01:17:08,272 --> 01:17:10,207 You okay, Zoe? 879 01:19:04,788 --> 01:19:06,454 Diana, now, before I deliver 880 01:19:06,456 --> 01:19:09,325 the bad news for Canadians, know that the US 881 01:19:09,327 --> 01:19:12,328 is facing cold, brutal weather as well. 882 01:19:12,330 --> 01:19:14,763 In Waco, Texas, drivers are having trouble 883 01:19:14,765 --> 01:19:17,399 getting traction on all of the major roads, 884 01:19:17,401 --> 01:19:19,968 and people are being asked to stay inside their homes 885 01:19:19,970 --> 01:19:23,938 until road crews can solve the problem. 886 01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:25,874 Further north, downed power lines 887 01:19:25,876 --> 01:19:28,944 have cut off electricity to thousands in much of Michigan 888 01:19:28,946 --> 01:19:31,780 where, over the past week, there's been a record number 889 01:19:31,782 --> 01:19:34,383 of school closures for the month of April. 890 01:19:34,385 --> 01:19:36,852 Our country is finished with what are likely 891 01:19:36,854 --> 01:19:39,888 its most significant systems until next winter, 892 01:19:39,890 --> 01:19:42,357 but there are several other systems on the way 893 01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:45,360 that could cause significant trouble and concern. 894 01:19:45,362 --> 01:19:48,030 The Pacific flow threatens to bring uncomfortable weather 895 01:19:48,032 --> 01:19:51,834 to our west coast, including the metro Vancouver area, 896 01:19:51,836 --> 01:19:53,968 where heavy amounts of snow will be followed 897 01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:55,503 by heavy amounts of rain. 898 01:19:55,505 --> 01:19:58,473 Luckily we have some warm weather and rain... 899 01:19:58,475 --> 01:20:01,509 - Love you. - Love you, too. 900 01:20:01,511 --> 01:20:04,879 It's a very different story for Ontario. 901 01:20:04,881 --> 01:20:07,850 We have watches and warnings nearly everywhere on the map 902 01:20:07,852 --> 01:20:11,954 due to the Texas flow in Alberta... 903 01:20:22,430 --> 01:20:26,684 Subtitles by explosiveskull 65354

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