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They're online, they're at the door, and tonight they're on this very beach in

our latest To Catch a Predator investigation.

Good evening and welcome to Dateline. I'm Chris Hansen. I'm back in the resort

community of Ocean County, New Jersey. It's a scenic spot on the shore where

we've rented a multi-million dollar home and discovered it's a rich place for

potential predators.

This time, 28 men showed up, sometimes two at a time.

You'd think they'd know by now.

You don't have to tell me. I know who you are. Who am I? You should be Chris

Hansen. We're in Ocean County, New Jersey, for our 11th internet sex

predator investigation.

You're Chris Hansen? I am. Here, men will show up after making a date online,

apparently hoping for sex with a young teen, and know exactly what they've

walked into.

This is the date line thing.

Seem to realize what they're doing is illegal.

You know what happens next, right?

And no, they're likely to end up in jail.

But the possibility of being caught doesn't stop them. I knew when I see

this stuff on TV.

And as we told you last week, the number of men convicted in connection with

these investigations is growing.

So far, 118 men have either pleaded guilty or been found guilty by a judge

or jury.

How do you plead? Guilty, Your Honor.

Dateline rented this summer house on the ocean in the off-season and hired

Perverted Justice, the online watchdog group, as consultants.

Why, what street are you passing?

PJ's volunteers are experts at pretending to be kids online.

For this investigation, they're posing as 12, 13, or 14-year-olds. The

volunteers are in local chat rooms waiting to be hit on by adults

interested in sex.

Perverted Justice says its volunteers never contact anyone first.

Once a man makes his intentions clear, he's invited over to our undercover

house. Two guys come back to the garage ASAP.

Staked out in the detached garage are officers from the Ocean County

Prosecutor's Office.

They're working with perverted justice, ready to arrest any man who attempts to

meet a minor for sex.

Dell from PJ hands over chat logs to the arresting officers, providing them with

the evidence needed to charge a suspect with a crime.

What were your expectations?

We wanted people to show up.

Mike Neville, a lieutenant in the Computer Sex Crimes Unit for the Ocean

County Prosecutor's Office, says it was his first time working with a civilian

group, and he was pleasantly surprised.

Perverted Justice did a great job in providing those leads to us because

their information they provided us in the chats, everything was 100% accurate.

Frag from Perverted Justice is inside the house communicating with the police

via a two-way radio.

I think that is him, guys.

The house and surrounding area have been rigged with 17 hidden cameras.

Eleven of them are set up outside so we can spot a potential predator as soon as

he arrives.

The outside cameras are able to follow him as he gets out of his car, walks

anywhere near the house, even if he goes to the front.

Six more cameras catch his every move once he walks inside.

Everyone gets into position as this potential predator pulls up. Watch as he

confidently approaches the house for his date with a girl who told him she was

14. Without even bothering to knock, 42-year-old Richard Burnham enters the

house. Hey!

We hired 18-year-old Casey to play the part of the young teen.

She's 5'2 and weighs 95 pounds.

I made some brownies. Have a seat.

Casey is posing as the 14-year-old virgin he met over the Internet. He was

really talking to a decoy from Perverted Justice.

While online, he pretends to be two different people to try and lure the PJ

decoy into having sex with him. He starts off as Yukon Blue and White, a 21

-year-old college student named Rick. He chats about having sex with her, then

introduces a friend.

Steve takes pics.

I have an older friend who wants a virgin.

Oh. Yeah, bad.

How old is he?

35. Yukon Blue and White continues to promote his older friend, Steve.

Yeah, I'm really sick. But Steve is a great guy. I hope you like getting laid.

He'll do an awesome job taking your virginity. He's really excited about it.

Now playing the part of the older friend, he uses the screen name Steve

Takes Pics.

I hear you want to lose your virginity.

What all did Rick say?

He said you were a virgin and seemed like you wanted to lose it.

The decoy agrees, and Steve Takes Pics goes on to use graphic and disgusting

language to describe how he plans to take her virginity. Now, the man with

two online identities has driven three hours, all the way from Connecticut, to

meet Jane, the 14-year-old.

So, do you want some brownies? No, I'm all set. No? He just passed right by the

seat, kept going, so I just said, see you later, and got out of there real

fast. Casey knows she's surrounded by security people, and she's been

instructed to slip away if she ever feels uncomfortable.

How you doing? Hi.

What's your seat right on this wall?

What you got in your back pocket there?

My phone.

Go to the other back pocket.

Can I see it?

What is that?

It's, um...

KY. Lubricating John.

Yep. What were you going to use that for?

Was intending on being with her.

And how old is she?

14. Steve takes pics as he's a freelance photographer, but in his former career,

he was a firefighter for 22 years.

Did you ever rank when you were a firefighter? What? Captain. A captain.

He also reveals that he is divorced and the father of two young children.

Why'd you do it?

Lonely, and I've got no money.

So because you're short on cash, you decided to have a date with a 14-year

-old girl?

Doesn't make it right.

Have you done this before?

No, this is a thing.

Really? Because you seem pretty skilled at it.

Remember, this man telling the sad story about being lonely and broke is the same

man who came up with an elaborate scheme apparently trying to entice a young girl

into having sex with him. You started this as Yukon Blue and White,

posing as a 21-year-old college student.

Why would you do that?

I prefer younger women.

in the college to out of college age range.

And I like talking to them. So now you change identities online, right? Yes.

And then you pick up the conversation.

I hear you want to lose your virginity.

You really 35?

I'm 37.

Which is not true because you're actually 42.

Right. So there are layers of lies here. Yeah. All intended,

it would appear.

to set up a sexual liaison with a 14-year-old girl.

Right?

Yes.

This goes on for some 20 days, by the way.

That's called grooming.

What do you think would have happened had there been a 14-year-old girl here

home alone?

I think it's pretty evident.

Pretty evident.

All right. Well, Rick, I need to tell you that I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline.

Uh-huh. And we're doing a story on adults who try to meet.

Young teens online. I don't want cameras.

You can leave right now.

Well, I'm going to be in trouble once I go.

It's not up to me. You should take your jelly. Okay. While Steve takes pics, has

been inside, the police have moved into position alongside the house, waiting

for him to walk out and arrest him.

Police, get on the ground! Get on the ground!

Do not resist.

He's taken away in an unmarked police car and later transported to jail.

He and all the other men who show up at our undercover house will be charged

with solicitation of a minor.

As our investigation in New Jersey continues, you'll meet many more

potential predators who stick around to answer my questions. What about visiting

a boy who's home alone? Does that make you nervous?

Well, yeah. Yeah, a little bit.

And another goes out with a bang.

We'll hold off on that. We have more coming.

As police take this former firefighter into custody, word comes over the radio

that another suspect is on the way.

The 5P pickup, right there. Everybody disappear.

Everyone tries to quickly clear the area, but it's too late. The man in the

pickup truck spots the police activity and takes off.

As I walked around, he looked dead at me and took off.

27-year-old Howard Thornton is pulled over down the road and arrested, never

getting a chance to keep his date for sex with a girl who told him she was 12.

It's here. It's here. It's right in front of the house.

Our next visitor is here for a 13-year-old, and he says this isn't his

first time meeting a minor.

Come take a seat.

Meet 32-year-old James Marcotte, a printing press operator.

So, what did you want to do?

Online, using the screen name JDMar74, he makes plans to meet a girl who says

she's 13 and home alone.

The decoy repeatedly asks him what he wants to do when he gets here. At first,

he's coy, but finally says...

Have you had sex before?

Yes, with my last boyfriend.

We would do that, too. When the decoy asks him if he's ever been with someone

her age, he says 15 was the youngest.

Now he's driven an hour and a half to meet her.

So, um, did you bring the condoms? Yes.

Did you?

Yes, I did.

All right, cool.

Like, remember you said about that 15-year-old you had sex with?

Uh-huh. Was she a virgin?

No. No, she wasn't?

Then the decoy tries to find out what he has in mind for them.

You can describe to me a little bit what we're going to do so I can know

beforehand. A lot of kissing, caressing.

But a wet blanket is about to be thrown on those plans.

Hey, how are you?

All right. What's happening?

I'm good.

You're good?

Yeah. What are you up to?

Just sitting here relaxing.

Relaxing? Relaxing, having a chat. Yeah.

I think you already had a chat earlier today online, didn't you?

A little bit. The 32-year-old admits he was chatting online with a girl named

Michelle. How old is Michelle?

As far as I know, she is 18.

In her profile, it said 13.

She tells you right in the chat it's 13.

Now, in the chat, you also tell her that you had sex with a 15-year-old girl.

Yes.

That's true, right? Yeah.

You just told her again right here on the beach.

That's true.

But I have not had sex with a 15-year-old.

But he does admit chatting online with minors.

I've chatted with a few of them. Some of them talk to me about any problems they

have. Talk about sex with them?

Sometimes. You ever go visit one of them?

I have visited one. One. And how old was the one you visited?

She was 16. 16. She was in PA.

He denies he ever had sex with her.

Well, do you watch much TV, James?

A little bit. A little bit. I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we're

doing a story called To Catch a Predator on adults who try to meet young teens

online for sex.

Uh-huh.

Now, if there's anything you want to tell us... Oh, no, that's quite all

right. As he gets up to leave, officers who've been hiding near the house move

towards him and place him under arrest.

Police, get on the ground!

Get on the ground!

Get on the ground!

As our investigation in Ocean County, New Jersey continues, all the men who

come to our undercover house are expecting to meet a young girl.

Except this next man. He's been chatting online with a decoy posing as a boy.

He's 46-year-old Anthony Palumbo, and he's brought a gift.

We've hired an 18-year-old actor to play the part of the young teen.

Hey, come on in.

Awesome.

Online,

in an AOL gay chat room, calling himself HiBuddyWasUp, he tells the decoy, who's

pretending to be a 14-year-old boy, that he's horny. Then the 46-year-old says, I

want to be top.

Oh, okay.

You want to do it raw?

Raw? Yes.

What's that?

No rubber.

I was close to bear left. Now he's here, beer in hand, asking the decoy several

times to put it in the refrigerator.

You can put that in the fridge.

Yeah, I'll put it in a little bit. All right.

I'll relax.

I'm just a little nervous. I'm nervous, too.

My excuse to come here, I went to Atlantic City.

I just don't know.

Put that in the refrigerator.

I don't know. Just chill out.

That's it. All right. We'll see what happens.

I'm just nervous.

That's all right.

You can put that in the refrigerator in the meantime.

Don't get drunk with that. I won't. I won't.

So why did you need the cover story to go to Atlantic City?

To see my brother.

Yeah, but who did you have to give that to as a cover story?

No, my brother is home, my other brother. And I said, I've got to go to

Atlantic City.

But instead you came here.

I stopped by to go there.

So you like to gamble? Yeah, I love to gamble. You took a little bit of a

gamble coming in here tonight.

No, I just stopped by.

But you said you were nervous when you came in. Why were you so nervous? Yeah,

because I was going to Atlantic City, and it was dark, and I'm not usually a

driver at dark at nighttime. So the nighttime makes you nervous? Yeah,

driving. I'm not a driver at night. And what about visiting a boy who's home

alone? Does that make you nervous?

Well, yeah. Yeah, a little bit.

I just wanted to say hi. Just to say hi and drop off a package.

Yeah, I had beer.

Have you been drinking tonight?

No, not at all. You can smell my breath. Not at all. That's okay. I don't need to

do that. He tells me several times he thought the boy was 18.

But in the chat log, the decoy tells him two different times that he's 14.

How old are you?

39. 39.

You said you were 35 online. 35, 39.

We find out later he's actually 46.

He says he's unemployed and spends his time caring for his ailing mother. Then

he tries to explain away his graphic sexual chat.

You asked him in your chat if he was top or bottom.

What does that mean?

Did I ask that? I don't remember.

Are you top or bottom?

I'm horny, you say.

I was just fooling around.

Well, if you're just fooling around, then why were you so concerned about

knowing whether or not he was a cop?

Just joking.

Just joking.

So what made you decide to come over here and meet a teenage boy after this

sexually explicit conversation?

I thought it was like I wanted to hang out with someone, like a friend.

I thought he was like 18, something like that. It wasn't, I'm not gay or

anything.

I'm just saying. Well, this isn't about gay or straight. No, I'm just saying.

I'm straight. Nobody cares what adults do.

No, I'm just saying.

But when you involve somebody who's 14, that's when it becomes an issue.

How old are you, you ask? 14. I told you that already. You say K, meaning okay.

But why do that? What's the motive here? Explain it to me. No, you're right. No,

you're right.

It's stupid. It's an illegal thing. Yeah, I know. I did a stupid thing.

Do you ever watch much television?

Sometimes, once in a while. I'm not so much of a TV person.

Well, I'm Chris Hansen, and I work for Dateline NBC, and we're doing a story on

adults who try to meet kids online.

I would want to be, um... Oh, boy.

You can walk right out of the door you came in. Okay.

He quickly leaves the house and is startled by the police.

All right.

Coming up next, a man shows up in a stolen van.

He pulled off. He pulled off, it looks like.

And it looks like a potential predator party.

Hey, why don't you come in over here? We're having a little conversation.

What did I do wrong?

We just asked for a make of the vehicle. He says, I don't have a car today.

It's a surprise.

The next potential predator arriving at our house in Ocean County, New Jersey,

is telling the truth when he says he doesn't have a car.

Today, instead, he's in a catering van.

Police say he stole it this morning.

He's here for sex with a 13-year-old. Casey, our decoy, tries to wave him in.

But he drives away.

Something he saw scared him, and he took off.

was traveling the wrong way on a one-way and riding on the shoulder trying to get

away. But he doesn't get far.

Police arrest 32-year-old Savio Naronha down the road.

Lieutenant Mike Neville of the Ocean County Prosecutor's Office gets a call

the next day from a New York City police officer about the van Naronha was

driving. They had a stolen report on that particular vehicle.

And it turns out that he, I don't know if it was a former employer, but he had

access to the vehicle keys and took the vehicle for himself to come down here

and meet the child.

Our investigation in the Garden State is turning out to be a busy one. We're

about to have two men in the house at the same time.

We have a lot of guys that should be here very soon.

Here comes 29-year-old Jeremy Keister. He's driven an hour and 40 minutes to

get here.

Casey, our decoy, waves him in.

He pulled up, his lights turned off, so I figured he was getting out.

Hey, Jeremy!

And then his lights turned back on, so I wasn't sure if he was going to leave or

not. And then he came around the corner.

He sets his car alarm and then heads straight for the side door.

How was your drive?

It was all right. Oh, that's good.

That's pretty far you came, huh?

Yeah, it was.

Online using his own name as his screen name, Jeremy Keister makes a date for

sex with a girl he thinks is 13.

He clearly admits he knows what he's doing is wrong.

So you want to have sex?

Yeah. You?

Only if you do.

Yeah. I do not force that.

You don't seem like you would.

It's wrong enough for me to have sex with a 13-year-old. He was nervous that

something was going on because when he walked in the house, he walked in and

froze. He stood there. He wouldn't go any further.

I made you some brownies. You want some?

No. Are you sure?

Yeah. Why not?

No. I don't think I should be here.

Why? But I'm no one's home with me.

What's that? Jeremy, could you come over here for a minute? I'd like to talk to

you, please.

And do me a favor, take your hands out of your pockets for a minute. Sure.

Come on over and have a seat.

Long ride, huh?

Yes, it was. Please, sit down.

What was your plan tonight?

Nothing, just to hang out. Hang out with who?

Just a nice girl. And how old is that nice girl?

She's 13.

29-year-old Keister tells me he's a luxury car salesman. And as I start to

read some of his chat log, he suddenly interrupts me.

Too bad you're not older.

Not legal for being with a guy.

You don't have to tell me. I know who you are. You know who I am? Yes. Who am

I? You should be Chris Hansen. I am.

So you've seen the show before? I have seen your show.

So even after seeing the show... You still chose to come over here?

I did. I mean, I... And what were you expecting here tonight?

No, really just chat and... Did you think at all that maybe you were walking

in to catch a predator investigation?

I was very hesitant on things, yes.

But he didn't seem hesitant when he was chatting online with a girl posing as a

13-year-old. You asked her if she had sex with her old boyfriend. Did it hurt?

Mm-hmm.

Did you bleed?

Mm-hmm.

What is your bra size?

Mm-hmm.

While Keister has been answering questions inside, we get word that

another man is only blocks away.

Red Nissan Frontier pickup truck heading north to our location.

Casey gets ready to wave him in. He's 43-year-old Michael Murray.

Online, he sent naked pictures of himself to a girl posing as a 13-year

-old. Later, he asks the decoy if she wants to have sex with him, but he wants

it to be her decision.

Fred gives the okay, come let him in.

Hey! He had his McDonald's bag. He was all excited.

Came walking in.

Hey, why don't you come in over here? We're having a little conversation.

Please join us.

What did I do wrong?

Just come here. We'll chat for a minute.

Come on in.

I'd like to talk to you. About what?

About a couple things.

I'm sorry.

I didn't know what was going on.

Why don't you explain that to me?

Nothing.

After the 43-year-old makes a quick exit... Get down!

Police arrest him and try to keep him quiet.

But Murray cannot seem to stop crying.

Back inside, Keister knows what has just happened outside and is getting worried.

I know what's in store for me outside that door, correct?

Well, that's not up to me.

Well, I've seen the show.

Who I am. Chris Hansen. I do.

As Keister prepares to leave, he seems to find one thing good about his

predicament. It's nice to meet you.

Thank you.

He gets up and heads out the door, right into the arms of police waiting

outside.

Police! Get down! Get down! Stay tuned as the parade

of potential predators continues.

From men in their early 20s... Now I'm going to be branded as a loser for the

rest of my life.

...to this man in his golden years.

What's a 60-year-old guy doing?

It's, to some extent, entertainment.

Entertainment. Sexual entertainment.

Sexual entertainment.

Yeah, we can get everybody in position.

The parade of potential predators continues here in Ocean County, New

Jersey. Copy this. He matches the screen image we have of him. This is definitely

our guy. This is Eichmann.

I love your car.

Thanks.

Yeah, I didn't say the real car I had. 21-year-old John Donnelly is here after

chatting online with a girl who told him she was 14.

Just a few minutes into the chat, Eichmann 04 tells her he's really horny,

and he continues, We could have lots of fun if I could come to your house to see

you. Doing what?

kissing, sucking each other, touching each other, having sex if you wanted. I

never went all the way yet.

I would be sweet to you.

You're the perfect girl.

Perfect, except that she's making it clear she's a minor, so he should know

he has no business being here. But that doesn't stop him.

I've never met anybody younger than, like, 18, so that just worried me.

I understand.

I just didn't know. I've just been worried, that's all.

This was something crazy.

But as he's about to find out, everything isn't

cool.

How's it going?

Pretty good, how are you doing? Good, how are you?

I'm all right. What's happened?

You have to.

I was just coming to meet this person.

Really? And who's that person?

I wasn't going to do anything, guys. I promise. Please.

I just came to visit this girl.

Dude, I knew this was a setup.

I didn't even want to do anything with this girl. Why? That's not what it's

about. I know. I know. Because I was trying to impress the girl. You were

trying to impress a 14-year-old girl. I don't know what I was thinking, sir.

I swear to God I wasn't. Please, officer.

He seems to think I'm with law enforcement.

He'll learn soon enough that I'm not a cop.

Because I was so worried about all this.

Because I've just been really depressed lately. I don't know what I was

thinking, sir. I know I said all that stupid... About having sex and stuff

like that. I've only had sex with one girl in my life. I wouldn't have felt

comfortable doing it.

Every day I can't sleep because I've been thinking, this is stupid, John.

Do you know how much trouble this... Why would you sleep with a 14-year-old girl?

And that's why I never wanted to. It's disgusting.

I know, but that doesn't square with what you said and what you did.

I do not want to be ruined for my... I wanted to go to college and everything.

I want to go for sports broadcasting.

Or journalism.

You want to be a television reporter.

Yes. Have you ever been on TV before?

No. Well, this is one of those good news, bad news situations, Don.

I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we're doing What About To Catch A

Predator. Please tell me you're not. Please.

I would never do anything like this.

Well, who do you blame then?

Myself. For being so stupid. I make several attempts to get the man to

leave.

Well, like I said, you're welcome to leave.

But he won't bud.

No point. There's no point going anywhere. I just, this was the stupidest

mistake I've ever made in my life.

Finally, after much prompting, he gets up and starts to leave the beach, only

to be stopped in his tracks by police from the Ocean County Prosecutor's

Office. He seems to know what to do.

As our investigation continues... Men arrive loaded with gifts.

You were going to give her a 13-year-old girl a bra from Victoria's Secret. You

were going to give her a webcam.

And you were going to give her candles.

Shinsters should have strawberries,

whipped cream, and other surprises.

During our investigations, we find potential predators can be pretty

generous. Hey.

Hey. How are you? Good. Glad you could make it. This man is a regular Santa

Claus. What did you bring me?

Well, I got the strawberries.

Oh, perfect.

Yeah.

And here's a surprise.

A surprise?

Aw, thanks.

You like koala bears? Yeah, thank you.

He's 36-year-old Thomas Shin, here to meet the 12-year-old girl he was

chatting with online.

It was really a decoy from perverted justice.

He wanted to give me a high-five, but I kind of completely dissed him, and he

was like, oh, okay, maybe not.

Using the screen name Shinster007, he talks about kissing her passionately and

guesses what that might lead to.

Kiss you down your neck, undress you and caress your sweet breasts and kiss them,

too. Oh, really?

Yeah, I'd get undressed too.

And he's got more surprises for our decoy.

And I brought a, I don't know, DVD because there's like some singers on

here that I think you might like.

Oh, cool.

Yeah. But there was something he didn't bring. He says he will on his next

visit. Did you bring any condoms or anything?

I was thinking like, you know, today we should definitely like kind of get to

know each other a little bit more and then definitely next time I could bring

them. Oh, okay. I wasn't sure, you know. All right, well, I'm going to go get

myself something to drink. I'll be right back, okay?

Okay. All right.

Strawberries and whipped cream and chocolates and stuffed animals. Boy,

you've got it all going on, don't you?

Oh, wow.

Why don't you have a seat right over there, please?

He says he's a court administrator for the state of New Jersey.

And how old are you?

I mean, I'm 24.

24?

You sure about that?

Yeah, you're probably going to check my ID, right?

I'm 36, sir. 36.

And how old is the girl you came to visit? She said she was 12.

Young enough to be your daughter.

Right. Why are you even talking to a 12-year-old angel?

I'm a very lonely guy. Lonely guy. Oh, I'm sorry. There's no people your age.

I try different personal sites, and it's just like they never, they think I'm too

short, or they think like an Asian guy is just going to be like a nerd or a

geek. So you figured you'd try another category.

What? The 12-year-old category.

Oh.

Now, what was your plan for the strawberries and whipped cream?

I'm going to have a piece of strawberry in my mouth.

And have her do what? Bite off of it or something. Bite off of it. So you were

going to kind of make out using the strawberries and the whipped cream. Oh.

With a 12-year-old girl.

Oh. Okay. That was your plan, right?

Yeah. Okay. He admits he thought it was strange chatting online with a girl so

young. That's why he says he asked her if she'd ever seen The Dateline Show.

Like I told her I wasn't planning on any sex. That's why I didn't bring any

condoms. Well, not this visit.

But what if I hadn't been here and the 12-year-old girl was here and you all

got along and you ate the strawberries and sprayed whipped cream on each other

and some clothes came off? What do you think would have happened?

Well, to be honest, I mean, not that it's right. I would have just made out.

Just made out. And told her.

We'll have to wait until next time when I have condoms.

Right. Right.

Well, you've seen the show, so you know that I'm Chris Hansen. Right.

Right. With Dateline NBC.

Right. And if there's anything else you'd like to tell us, now would be a

good time. If not, you know, you can take your stuff and go run out the door

you came in.

And just like he's seen on TV, as he leaves the house and goes out the front

door, police are waiting.

Police, hands up.

And there are more men bearing gifts on the way.

That's him. That's him.

He's parking. She waved, and he's going to park, it looks like.

You're about to meet our oldest visitor, a 60-year-old engineer for a major phone

company. Come on.

I want to show you something.

I want to show you something. Come here.

We had like a five minute back and forth, no you come, no you come.

And then I got him halfway up the hill and I was like, oh look at the fish.

He's been chatting online with a girl posing as a 13 year old. Using the

screen name NJDOM4F, he wastes no time bringing up sex and later gets more

specific. Want me to get between your legs now?

Yeah. And kiss you as you feel me on top of you.

And I take your hand and wrap it around my... Wow.

He also tells her he'll bring a webcam, candles, a bra, and a thong.

After weeks of describing online the different sex acts he wants to perform

on the decoy, NJ Dom 4F suddenly says he needs to talk to his lawyer.

Just as he's about to leave to meet her, he tells the decoy that, according to

his lawyer, they can't do anything.

Come sit.

People just come on the beach. It's fine.

I gotta go.

Come on.

It's okay. There's people who walk on the beach all the time because it's nice

out.

How are you?

Good. I need to talk to you for a minute.

Take your hands off your pockets.

Okay. What are you up to?

Nothing. I was not doing a thing. Not doing a thing. Yeah.

Now, I've read your chat log.

I know. I went overboard on that.

Overboard? And I told her I can't do anything.

And I did something wrong, and I admit it.

And I checked into it. I can't do anything with her.

I told her. What do you mean you checked into it?

I talked to a friend's lawyer.

Oh, you talked to a lawyer.

Yeah, I'm not going to get in trouble with any young girl.

You're not.

You talk in great and graphic detail about being naked together, about

performing specific sections.

Yeah, and I know that was wrong, and I told her I can't.

Do it.

I could be her friend, her dad.

Yeah, you say, do you want a boyfriend or a dad?

That's a little creepy, I've got to tell you. Well, but she kept on saying her

dad's son.

So that makes it okay for you to say, I want you to be my girlfriend first, we

can have sex, and then I'll be your dad, I'll take you out shopping. Here's what

it sounds like.

It sounds like we were grooming a young teenage girl into a relationship that

would become sad.

And I can see how you said that.

I mean, this is not a short chat, by the way. I know. This goes on for days.

About a month. Yeah, about a month.

What's a 60-year-old guy?

To some extent, energy.

Entertainment. Sexual energy. Sexual energy.

Do you see how you crossed the line from fantasy to reality when you got in your

car and drove over to the beach?

No, because I was not going to do anything.

I was going...

I was going to be a friend, and that was a friend. A 60-year-old man was going to

be a friend after saying, I'm hard, and do you want to feel me?

What kind of a friend?

Well, a friend that wasn't going to do anything. A grooming predator.

Well. Did you bring college?

No, absolutely not.

But he does admit to bringing a lot of other things. You brought a webcam.

And what else is in there?

I got candles.

Candles. And I got the bra that she... A bra?

Right. I know it looks bad, but... Looks bad? It is bad.

What do you think ought to happen to you?

I think I've learned a lot. Right, you've learned a lot.

Really?

Well, there's something you have to know.

And that is I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC.

We're doing a story on adults who try to meet kids on the Internet for sex.

If there's anything else you want to tell us,

He's completely unaware that police have been waiting alongside the house ready

to arrest him.

And when we come back, a man with a dark past

rides hours to meet a young girl home alone.

There was a sexual act between you and a 14-year-old girl.

And another to catch a predator first.

For three and a half days, men have been showing up at our beach house at the

Jersey Shore.

And one after the other, they've been arrested by officers from the Ocean

County Prosecutor's Office.

There seems to be a compulsion with these folks, and I don't think they

improve with age.

Tom Kelleher is the Ocean County prosecutor.

He says these men won't get off easy.

They've been charged with two second-degree crimes, luring and

attempted sexual assault, which makes them eligible for anywhere from five to

ten years in prison, but they're also going to be classified as Megan's

offenders so that they will be under lifetime.

supervision, and that's because of the likelihood that they would re-offend.

Which leads us to our next visitor.

We know before he ever drives up to the house that 36-year-old Todd Lewis is a

registered sex offender. He's driven six hours from Pennsylvania.

Come on in, thanks.

How was your trip?

No? I've always wanted to go on a motorcycle.

I was thinking about that.

Were you?

Yeah. Wow.

He's been chatting with a decoy posing as a 14-year-old. Calling himself

PS3Player178, he tells the girl he'd love it if she gave him oral sex. His

girlfriend never did it. And in return, he offers to treat her.

Well, if I would use my fingers and tongue, it would be just like sex, but

softer. Might be cool.

He later makes a startling admission.

He tells the decoy he's been caught before meeting a minor for sex.

She was 14, and she wanted to meet for sex.

Um, I got in a lot of trouble.

I'm on probation now.

But he keeps on chatting for five more days.

Now he seems to think that he's finally met the 14-year-old in person.

Okay, I wasn't sure if you liked it. I got your M&M's and Hershey's. Oh, nice.

Thanks.

Do you want me to go get you some milk for your brownies?

That will be good. Okay, I'll be right back.

Are you always so polite?

Yeah.

How's it taste?

Good. I'm trying to see right over there, please.

Now, what were you doing coming here, Tom?

I was just taking a weekend off, that's all. Just taking a weekend off?

I don't... Who am I talking to? Can I at least ask you that? I'll get to that in

just a minute. Now, you've been down this path before, right?

Yes. And tell me about that case.

No, I won't.

I've got the picture right here of you from the Megan's Law website.

That's you, right?

Yes. What were you convicted of?

It says sexual assault here.

Correct. In 2003, he pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl

who he had met online.

The victim said he took her into the woods, engaged in kissing, and she

performed oral sex on him.

The girl in that case was how old?

14. 14.

Same age as this girl tonight.

I got in a lot of trouble.

I'm on probation now, so as you sit on that stool right now, you're on

probation. Correct. For having sex with a 14-year-old girl.

No. For doing something with a 14-year-old girl.

You can say that, yes. He tells me several times he won't answer my

questions until I tell him who I am. Well, he's about to find out.

You tell her you should chat with guys closer to your age.

Please. You know. Unless you've got cameras running here, there's no reason

for this little hysterics.

Do you ever watch television?

Yes, I do.

Do you ever watch Dateline NBC?

No, never.

We have a show called To Catch a Predator.

Right. And you're on it right now.

The funny thing is, I had a feeling something was up.

So you had doubts.

You'd been in trouble before.

You knew it was wrong.

You got on a motorcycle and drove six hours from Pennsylvania to get here to

meet a 14-year-old girl anyway.

I was coming just for something to do. There was nothing to do with people your

own age in Pennsylvania?

I'm not allowed to go to bars, you know, stuff like that. That's what everyone my

age wants to do.

Right. You're also not allowed to go meet 14-year-old girls for sex, by the

way, whether you're on probation or not.

Correct. That is a true fact.

Well, Todd, there's something you've got to know.

I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and as I mentioned before, we're doing a

story about adults who try to meet young teens online for sex.

He gathers up his belongings, unaware as he heads to the door that his troubles

have only just begun.

This registered sex offender is about to get arrested again.

Police! Stop!

Stop!

And there's one more potential predator we'd like you to meet.

That's 37-year-old Kazuo Akutsu knocking on our door.

Hey, I'm glad you made it.

He's been chatting online for more than a week with a decoy posing as a 14-year

-old. Using the screen name Kaz4541, he asks the girl about having sex on the

beach, then says he's not into that.

He wants a nice, comfortable bed.

He also has a birthday wish, sex with a decoy.

You want some brownies?

Um, not for now.

He smelled like he was smoking in the car beforehand and hasn't showered in a

couple of days.

You didn't bring me any chocolate.

No. You know why?

Why? Because, um, I didn't want her to find it.

What do you mean?

You know, the wrapping and everything.

I would have thrown it away.

No. So explain again why no chocolates?

I just didn't bring it. You didn't bring it?

No. So what's your plan, Hensley?

Well, I was going to just see her. He admits her is a 14-year-old girl named

Sandy who he met online.

He says he's 37 and works for a major department store in New York City.

So you just decided today after work that you were going to jump in the car

to meet?

a 14-year-old girl named Sandy.

Yeah, that's it.

That's it? That's it. You thought it was appropriate at the age of 37 to come

meet a 14-year-old. Why?

Explain it to me.

I didn't think it was appropriate.

Your chat was pretty darn explicit with her.

Yeah.

And you acknowledge in the chat that the age thing could be a problem.

Sandy, I am more than twice your age.

I know what I did.

What am I going to do now?

Then, Kaz4541 says he's feeling ill.

You talk about her having a hard time enjoying sex because she's a virgin, and

that it might hurt.

Can I please go to bed?

You can go if you'd like to, but I think I need to tell you something first.

I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, and we're doing a story on adults who try to

meet. Kids online for some reason.

If there's anything else you want to say, we'd like to hear it. If not, you

can obviously walk out the door you came in.

We call for an EMT who comes in and examines him. It turns out to be nothing

serious.

He's clammy, he's definitely... Come on, let's get up to your feet.

Let me see your head.

He's escorted out of the house and is later arrested.

Lieutenant Neville says he recovered pretty quickly.

Running back to the police department, had a medic at the police department

that monitored his blood pressure and heart rate and pulse and pretty much was

cleared to go back to the jail. Later, he goes before a judge and his bail is

set. Your bail is set at $50,000 with no 10% eligibility.

As the operation wraps up, there are a total of 28 men who've been arrested and

charged with a felony. So far, two have been indicted. Most of the men have not

had a chance to make a plea. All the others have pleaded not guilty.

You'll find a complete online safety guide for parents and children on our

website, dateline.msnbc.com.

Thanks for joining us. I'm Chris Hansen. For all of us at NBC News, good night.