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- For those of
you who don't follow it,
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or may not remember it,
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one of these really evil people
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in the online world,
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out of whole cloth
make up this story
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that John Podesta
and I are running
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a child trafficking ring
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in the basement of the
Comet Pizza Parlor.
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- By the way, there
is no basement.
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- Yeah, there is no basement.
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But if you migrate that crazy
story to Facebook posts,
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there are people who
will believe that,
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including this very
unfortunate young man
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in North Carolina,
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believing that he
was on a mission
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because he saw it on Facebook.
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He saw it in other
places online.
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He saw it in quote news outlets,
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and so he was there on
a mission of rescue.
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People could have gotten killed.
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- Tonight, a terrifying moment.
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Authorities say a man with
an AR-15, opening fire,
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after police say he showed
up at a family pizza joint.
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- Welsh drove six hours from
Salisbury, North Carolina,
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to self investigate.
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- A conspiracy theory
called "Pizzagate."
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- Viciously phony rumors
that the pizza joint
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was the base for a
child abuse ring,
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using underground tunnels
led by Hillary Clinton
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and her campaign
chief John Podesta.
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- This is insane.
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- No one was hurt,
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but this became an
alarming consequence
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of the growing online
phenomena, fake news.
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- The
police say there is
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no sex trafficking conspiracy,
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but millions read about
it on dozens of websites,
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including one called
"Danger in Play."
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"Danger in Play" is written
by Michael Cernovich.
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- All media is narrative.
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And we are in a
war of narratives.
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There is a story about me.
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There is a story that
I'm just a very mean,
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awful, nasty troll.
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Is that the totality
of who I am?
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No, have I been mean
before in the past?
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Yes.
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Here's Hillary's handler, and
here's Hillary collapsing.
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That's the narrative about me.
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I view it more in terms
of sort of pro-wrestling.
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Bill Clinton is a rapist!
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Bill Clinton is a rapist!
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And the people
are gonna view you
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as the heel or the bad guy,
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you just have to play
up into that role.
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Assault, they're assaulting me!
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They're attacking me!
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And that's what I've done
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is I've recognized that people
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are gonna misinterpret me,
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completely twist my
words out of context.
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And in many cases,
fabricate things,
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and I can either
spend all of my day
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explaining why that isn't true,
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or I can just embrace
that heel role
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that you would as
a pro wrestler.
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My name is Mike Cernovitch,
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and I'm a journalist,
author, and filmmaker.
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That's amazing.
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Alright so yeah I just
texted Scott Adams,
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which says, you know,
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hey Scott, my latest
film was on fake news.
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And one area we wanted to cover
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was the role cutting and
bias is playing fake news,
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as well as your
two movies theory.
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Would you be in for an
interview to discuss this?
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So I think Scott will do it.
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But that would be
what we would want
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to talk to him about.
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- He's
in the bay area, right?
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- Yeah he's
in the bay area.
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- I am Scott Adams.
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I'm the creator of the
Dilbert comic strip.
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I'm a trained hypnotist
and have studied
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persuasion for decades.
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In persuasion, there's
a thing called framing.
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It's how you think
about a situation.
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People can frame things
very differently.
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And skilled persuaders
are especially good at it.
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And so it's something
I'm trained to do.
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Whoever gets there first,
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it's tough to get
that into your head.
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So going first makes
a big difference.
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I've started doing a lot of
live streaming on Periscope,
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and when there's a big story,
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I can be live to the
world within minutes.
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I just pick up my phone
and I'm live to the world.
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And the framing that
I put on things,
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I'm quite aware of the fact
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that because I'm both
persuasive by training,
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and I'm first, that my framing
is exceptionally sticky.
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A lot of what we
see as fake news
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is two movies playing
on one screen.
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So if you took a bunch of
the people on the right,
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and a bunch of the
people on the left,
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and put 'em in the same theater,
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and said, "Watch this movie."
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And when they left,
they would come out
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with completely different ideas
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of what they had just watched.
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Even though they had watched
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exactly the same thing.
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- The
director of controversial
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documentary "The Red Pill"
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is in Australia to
promote her film,
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which has sparked protests.
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- It's really
quite an experience
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to have fake news written
about you personally.
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It's happened to me
a number of times.
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Usually in the form of
somebody's imagining
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what's in my dark soul,
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and they imagine I hate
something almost always.
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That's completely off-base.
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Until it happens to you,
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and you see it repeatedly,
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you can't really understand
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how powerful the fake news is,
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how much it changes
real people's lives.
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And how widespread it is.
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- Oh, fake news.
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Yes.
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- And I think
people who have been
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printed in the media a lot
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can start to identify
who is fake news,
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because they know their
true story more than anyone.
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And they can see who's
not telling the truth.
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When I was 21, I
enlisted my mother
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as my producer and camera woman,
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and we hit the road filming,
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and made our first
film, "Daddy I Do,"
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which looked at women's rights.
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And that film was
really embraced
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and supported by
Planned Parenthood.
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They funded a northwestern
screening tour of the film,
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and flew us out, and we did
a bunch of the screenings
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and had dinner parties,
and it was wonderful,
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and it was really supported
in feminist circles.
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So we had a lot of success.
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And you know, everyone
was saying that we had,
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or that I had a bright
future as a filmmaker
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because of that film.
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And then my second
big feature film
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was about LGBT rights.
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And then I made a slough
of short films about,
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mostly about women's issues.
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And that was kind of my brand.
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That was my reputation.
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And I had a lot of
support in that.
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- Okay.
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- A controversial documentary
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on the men's rights movement
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has had screenings
in Melbourne canceled
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after a petition
claimed the film
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was misogynistic propaganda.
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- Misogynist
propaganda, anti-women.
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- It is absolutely
a propaganda film.
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It has tied up its moment.
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- Her name is Cassie Jaye,
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and she made a lot of
people very very angered.
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- You don't really question
their views in the film.
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- Did you see the film?
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- But why didn't you
ask him about that?
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- I did ask them about that.
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- Aren't generalizations
like that dangerous?
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- Because your
publicist wouldn't
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send us the full thing.
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- I sent you the screener link
actually to the full film.
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- She doesn't actually
do the research.
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- Though many of the
films backers are MRAs.
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- This is just a conversation
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where we want to talk
about men and boys problems
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for just five minutes.
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- Cassie, we're out of time.
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We'll have to leave it there.
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But thank you very much.
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- Initially, I thought I
was gonna be making a film
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exposing men's rights activists
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as misogynist, rape
apologists, women-haters,
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trying to turn back the
clock on women's rights.
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And after that year
of filming 44 people,
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I realized that the film
I thought I was gonna make
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was not the truth
of the story I got.
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I didn't change my views
on gender equality.
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I actually expanded my
views on gender equality
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that we should consider
men in the equation.
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But they wanted to
make it seem like
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I was against women's rights.
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I mean, even some of
the interviews I did
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on Australian news,
the lower third
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where they would say the title
of the episode they're doing,
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one of the titles was,
"Filmmaker Changes Her Views
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On Gender Equality."
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To inference that I'm now
against women's rights,
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which couldn't be
further from the truth.
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But the project in Australia,
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they put together
a video package,
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setting me up as a monster.
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And in their graphics they said
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the Red Pill movie was funded
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by men's rights activists.
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- Though many of
the films backers are MRAs.
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- And it's just this
little soundbite
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in an effort to
discredit my entire
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last four years work.
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I did a Kickstarter campaign.
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Everyone knows no one
has creative control
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if you're a Kickstarter backer.
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They're a minority of
men's rights activists.
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A minority of feminists.
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And mostly people who
didn't identify as either.
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And you know, moving
forward with my career
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as a filmmaker, I don't know how
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this smear campaign will have
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impacted my future
opportunities.
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When I started to see the media
going after me, personally,
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like on the direct attack,
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trying to take down my
credibility and my reputation,
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I felt cheated and lied to
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for my entire
previous life before
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I became this public figure
with the smear campaign.
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I feel like how
can I have trusted
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anything they've ever said about
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all these other
people who I've seen
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smeared in the media before,
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and I believed what
the mainstream media
said about them.
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- First tonight,
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our report on the incendiary
radio host, Alex Jones.
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- He's known for promoting
wild conspiracy theories.
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- Over the years,
his YouTube channel
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has racked up 1.3 billion views.
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He has millions of listeners.
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And the ear of our
current president.
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- Your reputation's amazing.
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I will not let you down.
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You will be impressed I hope.
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- According to his own counsel,
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he is playing a character.
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- But the idea that Jones
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doesn't necessarily
believe everything he says
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may take some of his
fans by surprise.
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- He produces the show
from his basement.
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- Broadcasting worldwide.
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I'm your host Alex Jones.
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So what is the state
of our world today?
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The quickening, the
intensification,
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the insanity, the wars.
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Why is Alex Jones in a
movie about fake news?
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In fact, I bet when
this film comes out,
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they're going to
have reviews saying,
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"Ha ha, look at the filmmakers.
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"To cover fake news, they talk
to the king of fake news."
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Wait a minute.
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Even if that was true,
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you'd want to talk to
the king of fake news.
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Mike Cernovich is
here with some amazing
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established filmmakers, putting
on this big film, "Hoaxed."
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Dealing with mainstream
media and fraud.
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And they asked me the
question, are you an actor.
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When I engage in
satire or acting,
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it's a joke when I
say those things.
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I'm gonna go say some horrible
things on air right now,
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to illustrate how the
globalists are sick freaks.
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It doesn't mean I
actually believe
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the things I'm about to say.
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Thing's really
tight on the eyes.
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So get ready, this
is Alex Jones.
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This is Alex Jones being
an actor, let's go.
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You'll never defeat
the human spirit!
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I'm liberal, huh, oh oh.
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I apologize, I apologize.
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Jesus forgive me.
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1776 will commence again
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if you try to take our firearms.
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We're such self-centered crap,
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that we don't even notice
hell itself rising up.
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I don't like 'em putting
chemicals in the water
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that turn the
freaking frogs gay.
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I've got the fire
of human liberty.
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I'm setting fires everywhere.
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And kids, Magellan's a lot
cooler than Justin Bieber!
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It doesn't bother me,
once you do it, whatever.
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I just, if you guys
want to put it out,
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just make sure if
you do do put it out,
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make sure people don't
have a pulled muscle.
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Just don't say I'm
a crazy person.
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Which I am kinda crazy already.
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But let me just start
over, here we go.
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I wear many hats.
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But 99% of the
time, I'm a father,
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I'm a patriot who
wants to simply
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research the facts
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so we can live in
a better world.
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And that's why since the
time I was 21 years old,
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I've been on air,
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because I've known there's
been a war on for our minds.
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- The victory will be an
endorsement of a philosophy.
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- Sir, shouldn't
we abolish the CFR?
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That's the real reality that
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none of you will talk about
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and most of you remembers.
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And I'm being drugged
out, laugh at it.
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- We need whistle blowers,
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and we need whistle blowers
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who aren't afraid
of being smeared.
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Courageous people
that are willing
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to step into the limelight,
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and take the tomatoes
being thrown at them.
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- My entire career
it's been about
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putting myself out there
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to take the hit first,
to draw the enemy out,
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so that more people wake
up to the larger picture.
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I knew Megyn Kelly was
coming here to destroy me.
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I knew she was coming here
to do the ultimate hit piece.
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And so I understood
that I had to basically
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take her attack on so that
I could use it as a way
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to educate my
listeners and viewers
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on the anatomy of a hit piece.
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- I think why smear campaigns
happen to people like me
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is to send a warning
to other people
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to not go off the reservation
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and do something
like what I did.
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A warning to don't do that,
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or we're gonna do to
you what we did to her.
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- Because when you're
one of the main subjects
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that's been chosen
to be destroyed,
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because they know
that what I promote
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really does symbolize
basic American values,
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if they can destroy that,
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they think they can really
hurt their real enemy.
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That's the American people.
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- We gotta take this guy out.
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Why you gotta take me out?
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Because I'm not part of the
permanent political class.
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You gotta take me out 'cause
I'm a business executive,
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and I can smell the rotting
cadaver of Washington
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that sits in the basement
of the American public
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and the American community.
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And I'm ready to help
the American people
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remove the cadaver
from the basement.
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You see, the way
I was getting hit,
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one of my buddies said to me,
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you're getting hit like that
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because you can articulate
the President's strategy.
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I'm on BBC Newswatch,
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and I'm being
interviewed by Emily,
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and it's a live presentation.
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I've got the White
House behind me.
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And we're talking.
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It's over, I shake her hand.
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I'm walking to my
office in the West Wing.
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My cell phone's ringing.
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I pick up the cell phone.
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I'm not gonna tell
you who it was.
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But it was a person in
Republican opposition
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research for 30 years.
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They said, "Ant, you're
in a lot of trouble."
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He had great verbal
dexterity on BBC Newswatch,
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and they're now saying, my God,
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this guy might be able to
have tea with the queen.
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And I've gotten four
or five calls on you
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since you finished
that interview,
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saying what do you
got on this guy?
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They gotta find something on me.
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I sort of feel bad for them
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because they
figured I'm Italian,
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and I got 28 years
on Wall Street.
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I had to do something dishonest.
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So they spent seven
months ripping through
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my financial records
and background.
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Couldn't find anything,
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so they got me on
three curse words.
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Leak the
thing and see if I can
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block these people
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the way I can
Scaramucci for six months.
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They treated it like it was,
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I poured hot water
on a newborn baby.
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- We had had hundreds of TV
networks and newspapers call us
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in the month before
Megyn Kelly called.
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And I refused all
the interviews,
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because I knew that
there was basically
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a bounty out to do a huge
deceptive hit piece on myself.
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And so when I heard
that Megyn Kelly
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was calling up my producer,
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being thickly sweet, saying,
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"Oh here's my cell phone number.
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"Please call me personally.
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"I'm really into Alex,
he's really cool."
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That right there was
a giant red flag.
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And as soon as I call her, boom.
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She wants to go out
to dinner with me.
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She's obsessed with me.
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She things I'm really handsome.
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But she thinks men that have
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a little pot belly
like me are sexy.
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That the best men look like me.
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These are exact things she said.
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So I got my other phone,
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and started recording
it on speakerphone.
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- You know,
you just became
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very fascinating to me.
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I just sort of thought
you were this maybe
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one-dimensional guy,
like, this is your thing.
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- She promised me that
it wasn't a hit piece.
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That she didn't even want
to get into the subjects
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like Sandy Hook.
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- It's not gonna be
some gotcha hit piece.
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I promise you that.
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- But of course,
once she got here,
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she uncloaked herself.
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- Sandy Hook.
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9-11.
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That's a dodge.
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- And she would
take pieces where
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I'd said one thing 20
minutes before, I love Satan.
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And edit that into something
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that was a completely
other subject
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to make it sound like
I was a stark raving
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babbling stuttering
volleyball or something.
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It's just--
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- So the media, and
especially the fake news,
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can ruin lives fairly easily.
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I've had quite a bit of
fake news lobbed at me.
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- Well the fake news
was that I had said
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negative things about women,
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which if you saw
them in context,
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you would understand
that they weren't.
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But out of context, whoa,
they sounded terrible.
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If I thought somebody
actually thought
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the things that
people said I thought,
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I would not like that person.
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And if you think
somebody's evil,
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whatever comes
out of their mouth
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is gonna sound pretty evil.
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00:18:40,843 --> 00:18:43,674
And if you think that
person is on your side,
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00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:44,882
even if they say something
446
00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:46,539
that sounds a little bit evil,
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you're gonna say,
ah, that's Bob.
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He doesn't mean that.
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00:18:50,198 --> 00:18:52,303
So we imagine we can see
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what's in the soul
of other people.
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It's the most classic
mistake you could make.
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You're not good at
peering into souls.
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You just think you are.
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Everybody thinks
they're good at it.
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Everybody's wrong.
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We're all terrible at it.
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And weirdly, we imagine
that these normal people
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who would be our friends
in any other context
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are actually like
monsters on the inside.
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00:19:14,429 --> 00:19:16,500
And it's pretty
rare that anybody's
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actually a monster
on the inside.
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- This is the
spot where it was first seen.
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Where did it come from?
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What is it?
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- They're bringing
crime, they're rapists.
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You know, I know nothing
about David Duke.
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00:19:44,735 --> 00:19:46,357
- It's the end of
the world every day.
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24 hour Trump horror fest.
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He tweeted again, you know.
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Civilization is collapsing.
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Never in the history
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of the United States,
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a monster of such
horrifying hatred of man.
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- They claim that they
can hear dog whistles.
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Secret messages
embedded in the text.
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00:20:04,306 --> 00:20:06,446
They have a special power
for hearing what you said
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without you actually saying it.
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00:20:08,379 --> 00:20:10,899
We can disagree
with some or several
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of Trump's policies.
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I'm not here to
talk about politics.
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I'm talking about what he said,
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and how it compares
to what the media
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literally portrayed
him as saying.
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When Donald Trump kicked off
his presidential campaign
485
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at Trump Tower, he
goes down the escalator
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and he gives a speech
in which he says,
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"All Mexicans are rapists."
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This isn't just a
general impression.
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I mean, this is something
that was said repeatedly.
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On CNN, Time Magazine, CBS,
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Washington Post,
Politico, Huffington Post.
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Repeatedly time and again,
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we find them
literally saying that
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Donald Trump said Mexican
immigrants are rapists.
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A horrifyingly disturbing,
and grotesque thing to say.
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If Donald Trump said that,
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then absolutely he
should drop out.
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00:20:59,982 --> 00:21:02,191
The fact of course is that's
not quite what he says.
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What he says is, "When
Mexico sends people,
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"they're not sending their best.
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00:21:06,851 --> 00:21:08,646
"They're sending people
that have lots of problems.
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00:21:08,681 --> 00:21:10,476
"They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crimes,
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"they're rapists, and some
I assume are good people."
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00:21:13,306 --> 00:21:17,483
And what he did say,
you know, was graceless.
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It was inappropriate.
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But gosh, it wasn't,
he didn't say
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that all Mexicans are rapists.
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00:21:23,661 --> 00:21:24,869
That's just not what he said.
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00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:27,286
He's complaining that
somehow he thinks
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the Mexican
government is sending
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people that have
lots of problems.
512
00:21:32,498 --> 00:21:35,673
But the media fixated
on two or three words.
513
00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:36,709
They are rapists.
514
00:21:36,743 --> 00:21:38,504
And decided that the
noun there must be
515
00:21:38,538 --> 00:21:41,852
the worst possible
interpretation,
meaning all Mexicans.
516
00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:46,063
Every single Mexican,
children, nuns, old people,
517
00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:47,651
all of them are rapists,
518
00:21:47,685 --> 00:21:49,687
and what a shame that
Donald Trump said that.
519
00:21:49,722 --> 00:21:51,620
And he explained
himself repeatedly.
520
00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:54,830
He went around, praising
Mexicans, in multiple states,
521
00:21:54,865 --> 00:21:56,384
again and again, saying
they're good people,
522
00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:57,350
they're wonderful people.
523
00:21:57,385 --> 00:21:58,903
I want them to come in legally.
524
00:21:58,938 --> 00:22:00,249
The media never cared.
525
00:22:00,284 --> 00:22:02,182
What they cared about
was this cartoon
526
00:22:02,217 --> 00:22:04,702
to not echo a stereotype.
527
00:22:04,737 --> 00:22:07,809
Create a stereotype that
I had never even heard of
528
00:22:07,843 --> 00:22:09,707
that all Mexicans are rapists.
529
00:22:09,742 --> 00:22:11,882
What's stunning about
these stories, these memes,
530
00:22:11,916 --> 00:22:15,195
is that even despite
they're being so incoherent,
531
00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:18,095
the media is able to just
keep them going endlessly
532
00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:20,200
by systematically neglecting
533
00:22:20,235 --> 00:22:22,582
every shred of evidence
against the story.
534
00:22:22,617 --> 00:22:25,551
And reading between the
lines with everything
535
00:22:25,585 --> 00:22:27,104
that seems a little off color.
536
00:22:31,798 --> 00:22:33,075
So here's another meme.
537
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:34,732
During the campaign,
538
00:22:34,767 --> 00:22:37,666
Donald Trump called
for the creation
539
00:22:37,701 --> 00:22:40,393
of a national
database, a registry,
540
00:22:40,428 --> 00:22:42,740
that would track all
Muslims in America.
541
00:22:42,775 --> 00:22:44,673
Every Muslim-American
would have to be
542
00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,226
registered in this thing,
543
00:22:46,261 --> 00:22:49,195
carry a special ID,
perhaps wear a badge.
544
00:22:49,229 --> 00:22:52,025
This was echoed in
countless many media.
545
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:52,957
It's totally false.
546
00:22:52,992 --> 00:22:54,269
It just didn't happen.
547
00:22:54,303 --> 00:22:56,685
The proposal wasn't
created by Donald Trump.
548
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,619
It was made by a Yahoo reporter.
549
00:22:59,654 --> 00:23:00,965
- Do you
think we might need
550
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,691
to register Muslims in
some type of database
551
00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:04,693
or note their
religion on their ID?
552
00:23:04,728 --> 00:23:07,731
- This is Hunter
Walker, Yahoo News,
553
00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:09,111
asking this to Trump.
554
00:23:09,146 --> 00:23:10,423
And what did Trump do?
555
00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:12,736
He didn't answer the
question directly.
556
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:14,738
You know, he's just
interested in sticking
557
00:23:14,772 --> 00:23:17,085
to his message and saying
the things he wants to say.
558
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,776
It's known as the artful dodge.
559
00:23:18,811 --> 00:23:20,088
I mean, this is
something politicians
560
00:23:20,122 --> 00:23:21,814
have been doing
since for decades.
561
00:23:21,848 --> 00:23:23,816
- Well, we're
gonna have to look
562
00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:25,818
at a lot of things very closely.
563
00:23:25,852 --> 00:23:27,751
We're gonna have to
look at the mosques.
564
00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:30,616
We're gonna have to look
very, very carefully.
565
00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:32,997
- He said look,
he said carefully.
566
00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:34,585
Now when Walker reports this,
567
00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,242
what he says that Trump says,
568
00:23:36,276 --> 00:23:40,280
he says, "He wouldn't
rule it out."
569
00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:43,076
Then it becomes, "He
calls for the creation
570
00:23:43,111 --> 00:23:44,353
"of a national database."
571
00:23:44,388 --> 00:23:46,666
And this expression
shows up on CNN.
572
00:23:46,701 --> 00:23:48,979
It shows up on the
cover of New York Times.
573
00:23:49,013 --> 00:23:50,739
The fascinating thing
is how they seem
574
00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:52,603
to play a game of telephone.
575
00:23:52,638 --> 00:23:55,641
Of taking not just what
Trump says and twisting it,
576
00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:57,643
but they'll take what
each other of them say
577
00:23:57,677 --> 00:23:59,679
that Trump said and
they'll add details,
578
00:23:59,714 --> 00:24:00,991
and Donald Trump again and again
579
00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:02,751
says I didn't say
that, that's false.
580
00:24:02,786 --> 00:24:03,787
This is ridiculous.
581
00:24:03,821 --> 00:24:05,996
I didn't start it, a
reporter suggested it.
582
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,274
Did they apologize?
583
00:24:08,308 --> 00:24:10,310
Did they at any point
say, "You know what?
584
00:24:10,345 --> 00:24:13,037
"We want to go back over some
of these stories we said,
585
00:24:13,072 --> 00:24:17,007
"whether they're about religion
or Mexicans, or you know."
586
00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:18,664
Let's do a tally of how
many of these things
587
00:24:18,698 --> 00:24:20,459
we kind of twisted
out of proportion.
588
00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:22,219
No, they're more interested in
589
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:26,050
people tripping up on
words rather than events.
590
00:24:26,085 --> 00:24:27,811
All kinds of things
happen in the world.
591
00:24:27,845 --> 00:24:29,606
Alarming important
urgent things.
592
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,055
People die, people are dying.
593
00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:33,644
Serious things are
happening and instead,
594
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:35,301
the sad state of the media is
595
00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:36,509
what are they obsessed with?
596
00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:38,166
What is their
number one concern?
597
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,512
It's Twitter.
598
00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,894
- I'm fascinated that
the media is obsessed
599
00:24:41,928 --> 00:24:43,792
with whatever little white lie
600
00:24:43,827 --> 00:24:45,863
they think that I
told on Twitter.
601
00:24:46,761 --> 00:24:48,901
How many people are
dying because of
602
00:24:48,935 --> 00:24:50,903
whatever they view
as being untrue,
603
00:24:50,937 --> 00:24:52,352
as being said by me?
604
00:24:52,387 --> 00:24:53,906
Now let's compare body counts.
605
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:56,667
I'll gladly compare.
606
00:24:56,702 --> 00:24:59,808
They would have to frame me
for body counts and shootings.
607
00:24:59,843 --> 00:25:01,845
As they did with
the Pizzagate thing.
608
00:25:01,879 --> 00:25:03,087
I don't have to frame them.
609
00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:05,365
I just have to talk
about what they've done.
610
00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:14,133
- I measure things in
terms of head count.
611
00:25:15,721 --> 00:25:18,102
The biggest head count of fake
news is communism as a whole.
612
00:25:20,795 --> 00:25:25,385
Reasonable estimates are
close to 100 million dead
613
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:28,492
just in the 20th Century
from Communism alone.
614
00:25:29,942 --> 00:25:33,048
There are a brutal number
of fake news stories
615
00:25:33,083 --> 00:25:36,569
covering up the hideous
nature of Communism,
616
00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:40,090
and given that the facts
are so easily available,
617
00:25:40,124 --> 00:25:42,748
given that the data is
so easily available,
618
00:25:42,782 --> 00:25:45,716
I really do more than question.
619
00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:48,581
I have nothing but
bottomless contempt
620
00:25:48,616 --> 00:25:50,065
for the people who
covered this stuff up.
621
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,067
Because they are aiding abetting
622
00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:54,587
some of the greatest
genocides in human history.
623
00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,590
And we know that Walter
Duranty of the New York Times,
624
00:25:57,625 --> 00:25:58,798
well he got a Pulitzer
625
00:25:58,833 --> 00:26:01,698
for his reporting on the
Potemkin villages under Stalin.
626
00:26:01,732 --> 00:26:02,733
When he was toured
around, and oh,
627
00:26:02,768 --> 00:26:04,148
look at these fat happy workers.
628
00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:06,703
And they were just
taken out of the gulags,
629
00:26:06,737 --> 00:26:07,945
stuffed full of chicken,
630
00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:10,327
and thrown in front
of his eyeballs.
631
00:26:14,538 --> 00:26:15,953
- At the Holodomor.
632
00:26:15,988 --> 00:26:18,922
One of the unbelievable
brutal and overlooked
633
00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,096
genocides in many ways.
634
00:26:21,131 --> 00:26:24,617
So, this is typically
the way that it works.
635
00:26:24,652 --> 00:26:25,618
In a free market,
636
00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:26,757
resources tend to accrue
637
00:26:26,792 --> 00:26:28,794
to the people who are
the most competent.
638
00:26:28,828 --> 00:26:30,485
And that's better for everyone.
639
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,142
Because you want to
have enough to eat.
640
00:26:32,176 --> 00:26:35,007
So you want the land to end up
641
00:26:35,041 --> 00:26:37,319
under the control of the
most productive people.
642
00:26:37,354 --> 00:26:39,321
But the Communists
come along and say,
643
00:26:39,356 --> 00:26:40,909
okay, you're working
for this guy,
644
00:26:40,944 --> 00:26:42,670
not 'cause he's
smarter or works harder
645
00:26:42,704 --> 00:26:45,431
or takes more risks
or studies more,
646
00:26:45,465 --> 00:26:47,813
but because he's exploited you.
647
00:26:47,847 --> 00:26:49,469
He has stolen from you,
648
00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:51,644
and we're gonna get
back what is yours.
649
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:52,852
We're gonna get back that land,
650
00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:54,923
and we're gonna split
it up among you.
651
00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:56,787
So what they did was they
went into the Ukraine,
652
00:26:56,822 --> 00:26:58,927
which was formerly called
the bread basket of Europe.
653
00:26:58,962 --> 00:27:00,964
The soil is so rich.
654
00:27:00,998 --> 00:27:03,000
I mean, it's just astonishing.
655
00:27:03,035 --> 00:27:04,553
And what they did was
they took the land
656
00:27:04,588 --> 00:27:06,486
from the most productive
people called the bourgeois.
657
00:27:06,521 --> 00:27:08,281
the cu lacks, the most
productive farmers,
658
00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:10,974
and then they shot or imprisoned
659
00:27:11,008 --> 00:27:12,527
or drove off those farmers.
660
00:27:12,561 --> 00:27:14,702
The starvation that resulted,
661
00:27:14,736 --> 00:27:16,876
I mean, unbelievably
horrifying stuff.
662
00:27:31,166 --> 00:27:32,512
This was all covered up.
663
00:27:32,547 --> 00:27:33,686
The reports were coming out.
664
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:34,687
Just the reports were coming out
665
00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:35,688
about the Holocaust.
666
00:27:35,723 --> 00:27:36,862
The reports were coming out,
667
00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:38,242
but they did not examine it
668
00:27:38,277 --> 00:27:39,554
as much as they should have,
669
00:27:39,588 --> 00:27:40,486
and millions of
millions of people
670
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,695
starved to death as a result.
671
00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:45,525
And that helped stretch
out the Communist regime
672
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,596
for another couple of decades,
673
00:27:47,631 --> 00:27:50,220
and it helped to spread
the Communist regime
674
00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:51,911
to other places in the world.
675
00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:54,500
North Korea, Cambodia, China.
676
00:27:54,534 --> 00:27:56,019
You know, there was a time when
677
00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:58,815
a third of the planet was
under Communist dictatorship.
678
00:27:58,849 --> 00:28:01,024
That had a lot to do
with the intellectuals
679
00:28:01,058 --> 00:28:04,544
who came across and spewed
the propaganda they were fed.
680
00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:06,029
And they were happy
to do it because
681
00:28:06,063 --> 00:28:07,858
they wanted to save the system,
682
00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:10,585
not deal with the facts.
683
00:28:15,107 --> 00:28:16,418
There are still people out there
684
00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:18,006
with Karl Marx buttons.
685
00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:19,387
You know, you try
wearing a Hitler button.
686
00:28:19,421 --> 00:28:21,182
Hitler's head count was
far lower than Communism.
687
00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:22,873
You go out there with
a Karl Marx button,
688
00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:25,082
and people are like,
oh that's edgy.
689
00:28:25,117 --> 00:28:27,844
Or you know, Che
Guevara T shirt.
690
00:28:27,878 --> 00:28:32,883
And this proselytizing and
pumping up of Communism
691
00:28:34,057 --> 00:28:35,023
that happens, and we've
seen this recently.
692
00:28:35,058 --> 00:28:37,370
Women had better sex
lives in Soviet Russia.
693
00:28:37,405 --> 00:28:39,476
I mean, like okay, so sure.
694
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,891
It's 100 million death count,
695
00:28:40,926 --> 00:28:42,928
but at least I get a
toe-clenching orgasm out of it.
696
00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:46,103
It's like, that's
horrifying, and horrible.
697
00:28:46,138 --> 00:28:47,898
Kind of weighing in the balance.
698
00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,970
The fact that North Korea
started as Communist state
699
00:28:51,005 --> 00:28:52,869
is very much overlooked.
700
00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:54,871
They had put these
Potemkin villages out there
701
00:28:54,905 --> 00:28:56,113
in North Korea as well,
702
00:28:56,148 --> 00:28:57,908
where you've got
these happy peasants
703
00:28:57,943 --> 00:28:59,289
who you see smiling and so on
704
00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:00,911
because they get
shot if the don't.
705
00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:04,259
- We traveled about four
hours east of Pyongyang
706
00:29:04,294 --> 00:29:05,985
to visit a ski resort.
707
00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:08,229
We were also invited
here, I would suspect,
708
00:29:08,263 --> 00:29:11,335
because it is not what
people expect to see
709
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:12,647
in North Korea.
710
00:29:12,681 --> 00:29:15,063
A modern ski resort.
711
00:29:15,098 --> 00:29:17,514
It's got patriotic
music and videos
712
00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:18,791
playing from a screen here,
713
00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:21,173
and a lot of families
out enjoying themselves.
714
00:29:22,622 --> 00:29:24,901
- And the reason why
it's so sinister,
715
00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:26,695
which you've talked
about before, Mike,
716
00:29:26,730 --> 00:29:28,111
is that they want us dead.
717
00:29:29,008 --> 00:29:31,700
If you openly cover
up for a regime,
718
00:29:31,735 --> 00:29:33,116
that the first people targeted
719
00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:34,807
are people like you and me.
720
00:29:34,842 --> 00:29:38,086
I can't view this as a
merely ideological dispute.
721
00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:41,538
This is not an academic
difference in opinion,
722
00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:44,990
because if the system that
they want gets in power,
723
00:29:45,024 --> 00:29:47,509
myself, my friends,
my family, everything,
724
00:29:47,544 --> 00:29:49,166
will be the first to go.
725
00:29:52,411 --> 00:29:53,792
- Read all about it.
726
00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:55,000
Latest football scores.
727
00:29:56,311 --> 00:29:58,451
Morning paper, morning star.
728
00:29:58,486 --> 00:29:59,728
Paper, mister?
729
00:29:59,763 --> 00:30:02,110
- Your
daily newspaper.
730
00:30:02,145 --> 00:30:04,112
Well, this is familiar.
731
00:30:04,147 --> 00:30:05,976
Most of us read a
paper every day.
732
00:30:07,184 --> 00:30:10,291
- The golden age of American
journalism in the 50s
733
00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:12,672
is sort of a myth.
734
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:19,196
Perpetuated by Hollywood and
maybe journalists themselves,
735
00:30:20,749 --> 00:30:22,406
but it was golden in some ways.
736
00:30:22,441 --> 00:30:25,893
They were hard hitting
reporters out investigating,
737
00:30:25,927 --> 00:30:28,171
trying to break big stories.
738
00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:32,037
And that image of a
disheveled reporter
739
00:30:32,071 --> 00:30:35,143
who wants to get the
story no matter what,
740
00:30:35,178 --> 00:30:38,077
in some way, is
representative of reality.
741
00:30:38,112 --> 00:30:40,217
They did publish
hard hitting stories.
742
00:30:40,252 --> 00:30:45,222
And print was king 'cause
TV was just baby stages.
743
00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:48,881
And there was a norm
of objectivity then.
744
00:30:48,916 --> 00:30:52,851
Editorial stayed on the
editorial pages, very much.
745
00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:56,889
And the news tended
to be very balanced,
746
00:30:56,924 --> 00:30:58,546
and very fact-driven.
747
00:30:58,580 --> 00:30:59,996
- The editorial
writer must be able
748
00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:01,929
to write on many subjects.
749
00:31:01,963 --> 00:31:03,896
But instead of merely
reporting news,
750
00:31:03,931 --> 00:31:06,588
he analyzes it and
explains its meaning,
751
00:31:06,623 --> 00:31:09,108
often expressing his
personal opinions.
752
00:31:09,143 --> 00:31:11,939
He must reason
accurately and fairly,
753
00:31:11,973 --> 00:31:13,906
and write in an
interesting manner.
754
00:31:13,941 --> 00:31:16,736
- There was also a different
culture at the time
755
00:31:16,771 --> 00:31:20,223
which was that objective
truth does exist.
756
00:31:20,257 --> 00:31:22,570
And that there are
consequences for lying
757
00:31:22,604 --> 00:31:24,917
and doing this in the afterlife.
758
00:31:24,952 --> 00:31:29,957
Journalists, whether they were
practicing Christians or not,
759
00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:32,235
brought in this American ethic,
760
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:36,653
which included God,
absolute truth,
761
00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:39,621
also this idea that yes,
there are objective facts
762
00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:42,245
that we can find and report.
763
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,937
- To be successful today,
764
00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:47,422
a newspaper must
contain all the elements
765
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:51,668
of the best journalism
to fill the needs
766
00:31:51,702 --> 00:31:53,325
of modern newspaper readers.
767
00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:58,813
But beyond that, it must
inspire complete confidence
768
00:31:58,847 --> 00:32:00,159
in its integrity.
769
00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:03,335
- One of the key
bits of information
770
00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:05,440
is a study that I did
771
00:32:05,475 --> 00:32:08,512
that fits right into the
golden age of journalism
772
00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:11,101
that looks at American
newspaper editorials
773
00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:14,104
from 1958 to 1970.
774
00:32:14,139 --> 00:32:15,485
And so starting in 58,
775
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,350
I found that all of these papers
776
00:32:18,384 --> 00:32:20,697
leaned a little
bit to the right.
777
00:32:22,526 --> 00:32:23,458
Surprise.
778
00:32:25,012 --> 00:32:26,599
But between 58 and 70,
779
00:32:26,634 --> 00:32:31,639
there was a dramatic shift
to the left, much more so.
780
00:32:32,812 --> 00:32:35,539
And I mean, it is
almost a straight line
781
00:32:35,574 --> 00:32:38,128
and showed no signs of changing.
782
00:32:38,163 --> 00:32:43,168
And informally, I looked
at some contemporary
783
00:32:43,858 --> 00:32:45,170
editorials the same way
784
00:32:45,204 --> 00:32:47,137
from some of those major papers.
785
00:32:48,207 --> 00:32:50,347
And found them up there.
786
00:32:50,382 --> 00:32:54,317
And so we see this shift
during that time in the 60s
787
00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:58,183
to a much more
liberal orientation.
788
00:32:58,217 --> 00:33:02,118
Additionally, the way the
editorials were crafted changed,
789
00:33:02,152 --> 00:33:04,189
which I think reflects a change
790
00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:07,502
in the news culture and
the culture of the country.
791
00:33:09,366 --> 00:33:11,196
In the late 50s, we found,
792
00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:13,198
even if they leaned one way,
793
00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,200
or supported one policy,
794
00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:20,239
they still offered a healthy
clash of those issues.
795
00:33:21,447 --> 00:33:23,311
And so you kind
of got both sides.
796
00:33:23,346 --> 00:33:26,176
And you had room to disagree.
797
00:33:27,212 --> 00:33:32,217
As we progress further
to 1970, that stops,
798
00:33:33,701 --> 00:33:38,188
and it becomes more polemic
and less an argument.
799
00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:46,334
I think one of the main
considerations for that change
800
00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:48,267
was the cultural revolution.
801
00:33:52,271 --> 00:33:54,929
We start to see a new generation
802
00:33:54,963 --> 00:33:56,758
coming into power.
803
00:33:56,793 --> 00:34:00,141
And we now have the creation
of a liberal environment.
804
00:34:01,487 --> 00:34:05,974
And let's not forget some
of the formative documents
805
00:34:06,009 --> 00:34:08,460
that came out of Students
for a Democratic Society
806
00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:10,807
in the early 60s.
807
00:34:10,841 --> 00:34:13,775
And they quite
clearly stated that
808
00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:16,606
student progressives
needed to move in
809
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,058
to the major institutions
of this country
810
00:34:20,092 --> 00:34:22,094
to affect change.
811
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:23,475
- We're gonna be in the streets
812
00:34:23,509 --> 00:34:25,580
and in every institution in
this country from now on.
813
00:34:25,615 --> 00:34:27,410
- The media, the news media,
814
00:34:27,444 --> 00:34:30,413
was one of those institutions
that was targeted.
815
00:34:30,447 --> 00:34:32,587
- We're gonna replace
capitalism with socialism.
816
00:34:32,622 --> 00:34:37,420
- There was also
some dissatisfaction
817
00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:40,388
with the federal
government in terms of
818
00:34:40,423 --> 00:34:42,010
its forthrightness with what was
819
00:34:42,045 --> 00:34:44,427
going on in Vietnam.
820
00:34:44,461 --> 00:34:47,395
As trust was lost,
821
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:49,466
there was more
willingness to oppose.
822
00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:52,297
So it was many factors engaging.
823
00:34:52,331 --> 00:34:55,300
And now it's gone
all the way now.
824
00:34:56,473 --> 00:34:58,682
- For we are opposed
around the world
825
00:34:58,717 --> 00:35:02,272
by a monolithic and
ruthless conspiracy
826
00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:05,344
that relies primarily
on covet means.
827
00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:07,933
For expanding its
sphere of influence.
828
00:35:07,967 --> 00:35:10,349
- We have been compelled
to create a permanent
829
00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:13,180
ominous industry of
vast proportions.
830
00:35:13,214 --> 00:35:16,148
- It is a system
which has conscripted
831
00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:19,151
vast human and
material resources
832
00:35:19,186 --> 00:35:21,429
into the building
of a tightly knit,
833
00:35:21,464 --> 00:35:23,604
highly efficient machine
834
00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:26,883
that combines
military, diplomatic,
835
00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:30,024
intelligence,
economic, scientific,
836
00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:31,508
and political operations.
837
00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:34,062
- We must guard
against the acquisition
838
00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:35,719
of unwarranted influence,
839
00:35:35,754 --> 00:35:37,652
whether sought or unsought,
840
00:35:37,687 --> 00:35:40,897
by the military
industrial complex.
841
00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:44,452
- Its preparations are
concealed, not published.
842
00:35:44,487 --> 00:35:47,559
Its mistakes are
buried, not headlined.
843
00:35:47,593 --> 00:35:50,976
Its dissenters are
silenced, not praised.
844
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:54,186
- Only an alert and
knowledgeable citizen
845
00:35:54,221 --> 00:35:56,533
can compel the proper meshing
846
00:35:56,568 --> 00:35:58,708
of the huge industrial
and military
847
00:35:58,742 --> 00:36:00,503
machinery of defense,
848
00:36:00,537 --> 00:36:03,195
with our peaceful
methods and goals.
849
00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:05,577
- And so it is
to the printing press,
850
00:36:05,611 --> 00:36:08,096
to the recorder of man's deeds,
851
00:36:08,131 --> 00:36:11,548
that we look for
strength and assistance.
852
00:36:11,583 --> 00:36:13,861
Confident that with your help,
853
00:36:13,895 --> 00:36:16,898
man will be what
he was born to be,
854
00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:18,106
free and independent.
855
00:36:27,357 --> 00:36:32,224
- I saw the Iraqi soldiers come
into the hospital with guns.
856
00:36:32,259 --> 00:36:34,433
They took the babies
out of the incubators.
857
00:36:37,919 --> 00:36:40,232
Took the incubators,
and left the children
858
00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,061
to die on the cold floor.
859
00:36:42,096 --> 00:36:43,718
- Babies pulled from incubators
860
00:36:43,753 --> 00:36:46,549
and scattered like
firewood across the floor.
861
00:36:47,481 --> 00:36:49,241
And they were thrown
out of the incubators
862
00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:53,383
so that Kuwait could be
systematically dismantled.
863
00:36:53,418 --> 00:36:54,522
- It was horrifying.
864
00:36:54,557 --> 00:36:57,456
- This war may be
beginning right now.
865
00:36:57,491 --> 00:37:00,804
- Two hours ago, allied
air forces began an attack
866
00:37:00,839 --> 00:37:03,704
on military targets
in Iraq and Kuwait.
867
00:37:03,738 --> 00:37:05,326
- The inevitable has happened.
868
00:37:08,743 --> 00:37:11,263
- A woman testified
before Congress
869
00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:13,955
that Iraqi soldiers had
gone into the nursery
870
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:15,578
of a Kuwaiti hospital,
871
00:37:15,612 --> 00:37:16,924
and they were taking babies,
872
00:37:16,958 --> 00:37:18,615
and lifting them out
of the incubators,
873
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:21,411
and throwing them onto the
ground and smashing them.
874
00:37:21,446 --> 00:37:23,137
This is a horrific visual.
875
00:37:23,171 --> 00:37:25,243
And public sentiment was against
876
00:37:25,277 --> 00:37:27,452
the first war in Iraq,
877
00:37:27,486 --> 00:37:29,937
until that very
important testimony
878
00:37:29,971 --> 00:37:32,319
was spread far and wide.
879
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:34,631
Well as it turns out,
880
00:37:34,666 --> 00:37:36,737
she was actually the daughter
881
00:37:36,771 --> 00:37:38,497
of one of the crown
prince's of Kuwait.
882
00:37:38,532 --> 00:37:40,465
It's a completely
fabricated story
883
00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:43,330
that had been orchestrated
by a major PR firm.
884
00:37:43,364 --> 00:37:45,297
They had spent millions
of dollars on it,
885
00:37:45,332 --> 00:37:47,195
and it was completely fake.
886
00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:49,577
But the media would
incredulously spread that.
887
00:37:49,612 --> 00:37:54,617
They give amplification to
a message that they like.
888
00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:57,136
And then if that message
turns out to be false,
889
00:37:57,171 --> 00:37:59,484
they say, well all we
do is report the news.
890
00:37:59,518 --> 00:38:01,279
Even though you chose
to report that, though.
891
00:38:01,313 --> 00:38:02,694
You chose to amplify that.
892
00:38:02,728 --> 00:38:06,905
You chose to splice that
clip and air it non-stop.
893
00:38:08,665 --> 00:38:12,220
- Fool me once, shame on,
894
00:38:14,188 --> 00:38:15,293
shame on you.
895
00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:16,673
- Every statement I make today
896
00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:18,226
is backed up by sources.
897
00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:19,676
Solid sources.
898
00:38:19,711 --> 00:38:21,678
- Fool me, you can't
get fooled again.
899
00:38:25,544 --> 00:38:29,203
- So the second war in Iraq
was also based on a lie
900
00:38:29,237 --> 00:38:31,550
propagated by the
New York Times.
901
00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:33,172
- Iraq has
made several attempts
902
00:38:33,207 --> 00:38:35,174
to buy high strength
aluminum tubes
903
00:38:35,209 --> 00:38:38,074
used to enrich uranium
for a nuclear weapon.
904
00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:39,972
- The kinds of tubes
that are necessary
905
00:38:40,007 --> 00:38:41,560
to build a centrifuge.
906
00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:43,355
- First of all, the New
York Times was not alone.
907
00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:45,806
Almost every paper
in the country
908
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,084
was reporting this, and network.
909
00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:49,706
There was a consensus.
910
00:38:49,741 --> 00:38:52,364
- I think what I did wrong was
911
00:38:52,399 --> 00:38:54,987
I wasn't permitted by
my paper to go back
912
00:38:55,022 --> 00:38:57,921
and look at those stories
when we had more information.
913
00:38:57,956 --> 00:39:00,476
- One person might say,
Cernovich, you're wrong.
914
00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:02,719
All the media did was
report on information
915
00:39:02,754 --> 00:39:04,687
given to them by the government.
916
00:39:04,721 --> 00:39:06,896
And I would say, well
that's fascinating.
917
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,588
You must think that I don't
have a very good memory,
918
00:39:09,623 --> 00:39:12,350
because when I
read Twitter today,
919
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:13,523
and I read a paper today,
920
00:39:13,558 --> 00:39:15,698
they say you can't trust Trump.
921
00:39:15,732 --> 00:39:16,906
He's such a liar.
922
00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:18,528
You can't trust the government.
923
00:39:18,563 --> 00:39:21,220
Our job as journalists is to
fight against the government.
924
00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:22,532
I see that every day.
925
00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:24,396
But if there's a war,
926
00:39:24,431 --> 00:39:25,949
we just accept
everything as true.
927
00:39:25,984 --> 00:39:28,435
- And it is our duty
as loyal Americans
928
00:39:28,469 --> 00:39:30,954
to shut up once the
fighting begins.
929
00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:35,580
- We entered the 50th
anniversary of the Vietnam war.
930
00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:37,444
- My fellow Americans.
931
00:39:37,478 --> 00:39:38,755
- The Gulf of Tonkin incident
932
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:41,309
was the basis for
the War in Vietnam,
933
00:39:41,344 --> 00:39:44,796
which cost between 50 and
75,000 American lives.
934
00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:46,694
Many peoples lives were ruined.
935
00:39:46,729 --> 00:39:48,800
Mental illnesses, PTSD.
936
00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:51,561
Well that was another lie.
937
00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:54,081
Let's look at, we got
three big wars in America.
938
00:39:54,115 --> 00:39:55,738
You see a lot of lies.
939
00:39:55,772 --> 00:39:57,705
So where is the soul searching
940
00:39:57,740 --> 00:39:59,742
by these large
mainstream outlets?
941
00:39:59,776 --> 00:40:00,846
I would like to see that.
942
00:40:04,712 --> 00:40:05,817
- If you look at the
mainstream media,
943
00:40:05,851 --> 00:40:07,715
they are in lock
stead with either
944
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:09,579
the Pentagon or the
State Department.
945
00:40:09,614 --> 00:40:12,444
Or officials that clearly
do have an agenda.
946
00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:14,584
It's a self sustaining
relationship.
947
00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:16,586
Any empire, any corporation,
948
00:40:16,621 --> 00:40:18,623
any person knows
that the only thing
949
00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:20,935
that could ever take
them down is the truth.
950
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:28,218
- Do you have any
people being paid
951
00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:34,224
by the CIA who are contributing
952
00:40:35,674 --> 00:40:39,678
to a major circulation,
American Journal?
953
00:40:39,713 --> 00:40:41,991
- We do have people
who submit pieces
954
00:40:42,025 --> 00:40:43,993
to American Journal.
955
00:40:45,304 --> 00:40:48,273
- Fake corporate news
media is nothing new.
956
00:40:48,307 --> 00:40:49,792
It's just more financed today.
957
00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:51,587
A lot bigger, a lot slicker.
958
00:40:51,621 --> 00:40:54,624
Back in the 40s, 50s,
60s, 70s, and 80s,
959
00:40:54,659 --> 00:40:56,523
there was Project Mockingbird
960
00:40:56,557 --> 00:40:59,180
that Senator Frank
Church's committee exposed.
961
00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:01,010
Where the CIA and other agencies
962
00:41:01,044 --> 00:41:03,530
had key people
throughout positions
963
00:41:03,564 --> 00:41:06,774
in the mainstream media
to put out fake news,
964
00:41:06,809 --> 00:41:09,605
or to kill stories when
they needed it done.
965
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:13,816
- They infiltrated high
ranking media organizations
966
00:41:13,850 --> 00:41:15,473
all around the United States.
967
00:41:15,507 --> 00:41:17,820
And were working
not only with them,
968
00:41:17,854 --> 00:41:20,961
but reporting as if they
were neutral journalists.
969
00:41:20,995 --> 00:41:23,791
When they were
pushing an agenda.
970
00:41:23,826 --> 00:41:24,861
- The planted story is intended
971
00:41:24,896 --> 00:41:27,105
to serve a national
purpose abroad,
972
00:41:28,347 --> 00:41:33,214
came home and were
circulated here,
973
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:35,147
and believed here.
974
00:41:35,182 --> 00:41:36,908
- Operation Mockingbird
should make everyone
975
00:41:36,942 --> 00:41:40,877
think twice about the
news and information
976
00:41:40,912 --> 00:41:41,878
and where it comes from,
977
00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:44,502
and how it could be
weaponized against you,
978
00:41:44,536 --> 00:41:45,986
which I think is
happening right now
979
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:47,850
at a very severe level.
980
00:41:47,884 --> 00:41:50,542
- And now, we have Jeff Bezos,
981
00:41:50,577 --> 00:41:52,510
one of the richest
men in the world,
982
00:41:52,544 --> 00:41:55,098
close to 100 billion
dollars in wealth,
983
00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:57,860
with his oligopoly Amazon,
984
00:41:57,894 --> 00:42:02,450
getting 600 million dollar
contract from the CIA
985
00:42:02,485 --> 00:42:05,902
to house their
servers while he uses
986
00:42:05,937 --> 00:42:08,422
the Washington Post that he owns
987
00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:11,839
as a warfare machine
against President Trump
988
00:42:11,874 --> 00:42:13,427
and the American people.
989
00:42:13,461 --> 00:42:16,188
- I was supported by the
Central Intelligence Agency,
990
00:42:16,223 --> 00:42:17,707
by the CIA.
991
00:42:17,742 --> 00:42:19,882
- This one great German
journalist came out and said,
992
00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:21,677
yeah, the CIA wrote
headlines for me.
993
00:42:21,711 --> 00:42:22,885
They told me what to say.
994
00:42:22,919 --> 00:42:24,852
- There's many countries
where this happens.
995
00:42:24,887 --> 00:42:28,925
Where you find people to claim
996
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,962
they are respected journalists,
997
00:42:30,996 --> 00:42:32,619
but if you look behind them,
998
00:42:32,653 --> 00:42:35,622
you'll find they are
puppets on a string
999
00:42:35,656 --> 00:42:37,865
of the Central
Intelligence Agency.
1000
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:40,627
- Obama signed a Ministry
of Truth into action
1001
00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:44,320
before he left, to use
US intelligence agencies
1002
00:42:44,354 --> 00:42:45,804
against the American people.
1003
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:47,323
- Now critics argue
the act allows
1004
00:42:47,357 --> 00:42:50,602
the US government to censor
some news as propaganda,
1005
00:42:50,637 --> 00:42:52,742
and push government
agenda, in other words,
1006
00:42:52,777 --> 00:42:55,469
government propaganda,
on the US citizens,
1007
00:42:55,503 --> 00:42:57,609
usually by way of
labeling inconvenient
1008
00:42:57,644 --> 00:42:59,715
stories as fake news.
1009
00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:01,509
- Propaganda is now legal.
1010
00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:03,304
Yes, legal, not illegal.
1011
00:43:03,339 --> 00:43:05,272
It used to be illegal,
1012
00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:08,965
according to a 1940
law, Smith, Month, Act,
1013
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,001
something like that.
1014
00:43:10,035 --> 00:43:11,174
- Because three years ago,
1015
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,211
wrapped inside the 2013 NDAA
1016
00:43:14,488 --> 00:43:16,317
was an amendment
that removed the ban
1017
00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:17,905
on the US government,
1018
00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:20,908
creating propaganda, and then
showing it to US citizens.
1019
00:43:20,943 --> 00:43:22,945
- A lot of people who claim
that they're journalists,
1020
00:43:22,979 --> 00:43:24,118
they're just repeaters.
1021
00:43:24,153 --> 00:43:25,361
They get a press release,
1022
00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:26,983
and they just rewrite
the press release.
1023
00:43:27,018 --> 00:43:28,985
- I was actually able
to uncover something
1024
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:33,990
that really made me feel
defrauded as a journalist.
1025
00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,510
Not only our sources, we
found out that Bahrain
1026
00:43:36,544 --> 00:43:38,857
is a paying customer at CNN.
1027
00:43:38,892 --> 00:43:41,826
They've also produced
similar content for Georgia,
1028
00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,829
Kazakhstan, and other
nations as well, Lebanon.
1029
00:43:44,863 --> 00:43:46,658
- Look, if CNN's
corporate bosses
1030
00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:49,557
want to worship dictatorships,
that's their right.
1031
00:43:49,592 --> 00:43:52,560
But when they're getting paid
by the dictatorships to do it,
1032
00:43:52,595 --> 00:43:54,804
in my view, that's criminal,
1033
00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:56,806
and it's downright
anti-American.
1034
00:43:56,841 --> 00:43:59,084
- I was accused of
leaking secrets of states.
1035
00:44:01,052 --> 00:44:03,157
Six times, house searched.
1036
00:44:04,676 --> 00:44:08,991
Well, they hoped that I
wouldn't do that ever again.
1037
00:44:09,025 --> 00:44:10,578
I don't mind what will happen.
1038
00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:13,892
I've had three heart
attacks, I have no children.
1039
00:44:13,927 --> 00:44:16,999
So if they want to bring
me to court or to prison,
1040
00:44:17,033 --> 00:44:19,449
so it's worth for the truth.
1041
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:24,351
The truth won't die.
1042
00:44:27,009 --> 00:44:28,424
- Decades ago, it
used to be the case
1043
00:44:28,458 --> 00:44:31,807
that news divisions did their
investigative reporting,
1044
00:44:31,841 --> 00:44:33,153
operating in a loss.
1045
00:44:33,187 --> 00:44:34,913
They did so in the
public interest.
1046
00:44:34,948 --> 00:44:36,812
That's gone by the wayside.
1047
00:44:36,846 --> 00:44:39,677
These days, news
organizations do specifically
1048
00:44:39,711 --> 00:44:41,989
what behooves their bottom line.
1049
00:44:42,024 --> 00:44:44,612
Hi, my name is James O'Keefe.
1050
00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:45,993
I'm from Project Veritas.
1051
00:44:46,028 --> 00:44:48,271
Project Veritas started
with the mission
1052
00:44:48,306 --> 00:44:50,688
of investigating,
exposing waste, fraud,
1053
00:44:50,722 --> 00:44:53,518
abuse, corruption,
dishonesty, self-dealing,
1054
00:44:53,552 --> 00:44:56,176
in order to make a more ethical
and transparent society.
1055
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:58,385
In order to do that, we
have to go undercover
1056
00:44:58,419 --> 00:45:00,387
because a lot of these
people are not gonna tell us
1057
00:45:00,421 --> 00:45:01,940
on the record what's happening.
1058
00:45:01,975 --> 00:45:03,528
- One story has monopolized
1059
00:45:03,562 --> 00:45:06,393
President Trump's time
in office like no other.
1060
00:45:06,427 --> 00:45:08,533
Especially on CNN.
1061
00:45:08,567 --> 00:45:09,707
Russia.
1062
00:45:09,741 --> 00:45:11,122
In fact, since the inauguration,
1063
00:45:11,156 --> 00:45:14,090
CNN has mentioned
Russia on their air
1064
00:45:14,125 --> 00:45:16,921
nearly 16,000 times.
1065
00:45:16,955 --> 00:45:19,924
So we sent our undercover
reporters inside CNN
1066
00:45:19,958 --> 00:45:22,064
to understand why.
1067
00:45:22,098 --> 00:45:24,307
- Then why
is CNN constantly like,
1068
00:45:24,342 --> 00:45:26,413
Russia this, Russia that?
1069
00:45:26,447 --> 00:45:27,725
- Because it's ratings.
1070
00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:29,243
- If it's all just
because of ratings,
1071
00:45:29,278 --> 00:45:31,487
if it's all just for money,
1072
00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:36,457
if his own staff, more than
one person thinks that it's BS.
1073
00:45:36,492 --> 00:45:38,908
- The Russia thing is
just a big nothing burger.
1074
00:45:38,943 --> 00:45:39,737
- Really?
1075
00:45:39,771 --> 00:45:40,910
- Yeah.
1076
00:45:40,945 --> 00:45:41,980
- It's mostly
bullshit right now.
1077
00:45:42,015 --> 00:45:46,778
Like, we don't have
any big giant proof.
1078
00:45:46,813 --> 00:45:50,230
- And they're doing it in
order to make money only.
1079
00:45:50,264 --> 00:45:52,404
- All the nice
cutesy little ethics
1080
00:45:52,439 --> 00:45:54,613
that used to get talked
about in journalism school,
1081
00:45:54,648 --> 00:45:57,133
you're just like,
that's adorable.
1082
00:45:58,514 --> 00:45:59,618
That's adorable.
1083
00:46:02,035 --> 00:46:03,415
Yeah, this is a business.
1084
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:04,934
- That's something the
American people need to see.
1085
00:46:04,969 --> 00:46:07,247
I'm not making a value
judgment about it.
1086
00:46:07,281 --> 00:46:09,180
But that's information
that people need to see.
1087
00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,354
And that's the real, the
heart of the matter is
1088
00:46:11,389 --> 00:46:13,011
journalism is about
exposing things
1089
00:46:13,046 --> 00:46:14,185
for what they really are.
1090
00:46:14,219 --> 00:46:16,843
And there's a lot of
powerful interests
1091
00:46:16,877 --> 00:46:19,121
that do not want things exposed
1092
00:46:19,155 --> 00:46:20,985
for how they actually are.
1093
00:46:21,019 --> 00:46:22,331
- People go in the media.
1094
00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:24,367
Journalists, would be
journalists, would say,
1095
00:46:24,402 --> 00:46:26,473
Cernovich, you just want clicks.
1096
00:46:26,507 --> 00:46:28,371
All you care about
is page views.
1097
00:46:28,406 --> 00:46:31,133
These are the people who
live and die by ratings.
1098
00:46:31,167 --> 00:46:33,825
These are the people who
the minute the show's over,
1099
00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:36,690
they're waiting for the
ratings to be uploaded.
1100
00:46:36,724 --> 00:46:38,726
If there's a way to start a war,
1101
00:46:38,761 --> 00:46:41,660
and get America involved in
another major massive war,
1102
00:46:41,695 --> 00:46:43,731
all the media companies
stand to make a lot of money.
1103
00:46:43,766 --> 00:46:45,112
Nobody talks about that.
1104
00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:46,838
For example, when
there was a major
1105
00:46:46,873 --> 00:46:48,564
terrorist attack in France,
1106
00:46:49,772 --> 00:46:52,119
the images of dead
babies were blurred,
1107
00:46:52,154 --> 00:46:53,534
and we were told by the media
1108
00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:58,125
never show, never show dead
children on television.
1109
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,402
This is too horrific.
1110
00:46:59,437 --> 00:47:00,196
This is not what we're about.
1111
00:47:00,231 --> 00:47:01,128
You can't do it.
1112
00:47:01,163 --> 00:47:02,681
This is what we're told, right?
1113
00:47:02,716 --> 00:47:05,167
But then suddenly
we have a story
1114
00:47:05,201 --> 00:47:06,340
about Assad gassing his people,
1115
00:47:06,375 --> 00:47:09,136
and a lot of people
want war in Syria.
1116
00:47:09,171 --> 00:47:11,035
Well not only do they
accept the conclusion
1117
00:47:11,069 --> 00:47:12,415
that Assad gassed his own people
1118
00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:14,176
without any real evidence.
1119
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:19,043
But now they post images of
dead babies on television.
1120
00:47:19,077 --> 00:47:21,873
And in the newspapers,
and post those pictures.
1121
00:47:21,908 --> 00:47:26,188
- Tonight I ordered a
targeted military strike.
1122
00:47:26,222 --> 00:47:27,499
The President again
1123
00:47:27,534 --> 00:47:30,019
citing the disturbing
video of Tuesday's horrific
1124
00:47:30,054 --> 00:47:33,540
chemical attack as a major
influence on his decision.
1125
00:47:33,574 --> 00:47:36,198
A dizzying turnaround
for an administration
1126
00:47:36,232 --> 00:47:39,339
that just days ago declared
that their priority
1127
00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:43,101
was not to oust Syrian President
Bashar Al Assad from power.
1128
00:47:43,136 --> 00:47:46,001
- Donald Trump became
President of the United States.
1129
00:47:46,035 --> 00:47:47,519
I think this was
actually a big moment.
1130
00:47:47,554 --> 00:47:51,109
- The media makes a massive
amount of money with wars,
1131
00:47:51,144 --> 00:47:53,077
because then you have
nonstop coverage,
1132
00:47:53,111 --> 00:47:55,562
embedded journalists,
hot new footage.
1133
00:47:55,596 --> 00:47:57,253
Watch this latest bombing drop.
1134
00:47:57,288 --> 00:47:59,048
Watch this latest fire fight.
1135
00:47:59,083 --> 00:48:01,637
- We see these beautiful
pictures at night
1136
00:48:01,671 --> 00:48:05,365
from the decks of these
two US Navy vessels
1137
00:48:05,399 --> 00:48:07,608
in the Eastern Mediterranean.
1138
00:48:07,643 --> 00:48:10,611
I am tempted to quote
the great Leonard Cohen.
1139
00:48:10,646 --> 00:48:13,062
I'm guided by the
beauty of our weapons.
1140
00:48:13,097 --> 00:48:15,547
And they are beautiful pictures.
1141
00:48:15,582 --> 00:48:16,824
- They make a ton
of money doing that.
1142
00:48:16,859 --> 00:48:18,654
Not only that, but their
parent corporations
1143
00:48:18,688 --> 00:48:20,242
and these media
holding companies
1144
00:48:20,276 --> 00:48:23,107
and their shareholders make
a ton of money off of war.
1145
00:48:23,141 --> 00:48:24,487
Boeing makes a ton of money.
1146
00:48:24,522 --> 00:48:26,593
Its contractors
make a ton of money.
1147
00:48:26,627 --> 00:48:28,077
The lobbyists make
a ton of money.
1148
00:48:28,112 --> 00:48:30,252
Because now you have
contracts to dole out.
1149
00:48:30,286 --> 00:48:31,667
Nobody talks about this though.
1150
00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:33,151
How does the media
make its money?
1151
00:48:33,186 --> 00:48:36,154
- War is never
coming from itself.
1152
00:48:36,189 --> 00:48:39,778
There is always people
behind it to push for war,
1153
00:48:39,813 --> 00:48:42,160
and this is not
only politicians,
1154
00:48:42,195 --> 00:48:43,782
this is journalists too.
1155
00:48:43,817 --> 00:48:45,992
- 'Cause you know there's
a lot of job at stake,
1156
00:48:46,026 --> 00:48:48,787
certainly if a lot of
these defense contractors
1157
00:48:48,822 --> 00:48:50,858
stop selling war planes,
1158
00:48:50,893 --> 00:48:52,446
other sophisticated equipment,
1159
00:48:52,481 --> 00:48:55,104
there's gonna be a
significant loss of jobs.
1160
00:48:55,139 --> 00:48:56,140
- So what they're doing
1161
00:48:56,174 --> 00:48:57,762
is completely dishonest.
1162
00:49:06,322 --> 00:49:08,117
- This is beyond hoax.
1163
00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,464
This is a giant organized fraud.
1164
00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:11,810
- The news is not the news.
1165
00:49:11,845 --> 00:49:13,053
The news is propaganda.
1166
00:49:19,163 --> 00:49:21,268
- Nothing
has captured this crisis
1167
00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:24,202
like the picture that we
began with last night.
1168
00:49:24,237 --> 00:49:26,204
- His family
says his name was Islan,
1169
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,275
and that he and his
brother and his mother
1170
00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:30,208
drowned trying to
reach Greece by boat.
1171
00:49:31,347 --> 00:49:36,352
- All photographs are rhetoric.
1172
00:49:37,871 --> 00:49:39,459
All photographs are accurate.
1173
00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:41,323
None of them are the truth.
1174
00:49:42,669 --> 00:49:45,637
Let's face it, we don't see
the world in a still frame.
1175
00:49:45,672 --> 00:49:47,294
We don't see the world
in black and white.
1176
00:49:47,329 --> 00:49:49,641
We don't see the world frozen.
1177
00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:51,712
All photographs are
kind of self portraits.
1178
00:49:51,747 --> 00:49:54,715
They're really a reflection
of the photographer
1179
00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:56,717
and the editor.
1180
00:49:56,752 --> 00:50:00,549
There's a lot of journalists
who get angry when I say that.
1181
00:50:00,583 --> 00:50:02,171
- And tonight, we're
gonna spend the program
1182
00:50:02,206 --> 00:50:04,380
looking at the
power of that image,
1183
00:50:04,415 --> 00:50:07,176
which has shocked the
world, shaken politicians,
1184
00:50:07,211 --> 00:50:09,213
and transformed the
debate about refugees
1185
00:50:09,247 --> 00:50:10,248
fleeing from war.
1186
00:50:10,283 --> 00:50:12,595
- If you're listening to a song,
1187
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:13,872
you have to listen to the song.
1188
00:50:13,907 --> 00:50:15,219
You have to at least
get to the hook
1189
00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:17,428
before you decide that you
think it's a good song.
1190
00:50:17,462 --> 00:50:19,257
Still images don't
work that way.
1191
00:50:19,292 --> 00:50:21,742
Still images happen immediately.
1192
00:50:21,777 --> 00:50:23,365
- I just can't look at that
without being so upset.
1193
00:50:23,399 --> 00:50:25,953
Like, it just makes
me think how lucky,
1194
00:50:25,988 --> 00:50:27,576
lucky I am that I
live in Australia,
1195
00:50:27,610 --> 00:50:29,060
that my children
live in Australia.
1196
00:50:29,095 --> 00:50:30,337
That's what it means.
1197
00:50:30,372 --> 00:50:31,269
- Yeah.
1198
00:50:31,304 --> 00:50:33,030
- The most persuasive
thing is visual,
1199
00:50:33,064 --> 00:50:35,756
our visual sense
overpowers everything else.
1200
00:50:35,791 --> 00:50:39,105
So what they choose
to show as an image
1201
00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:43,109
is the message no matter what
the words on the screen say.
1202
00:50:43,143 --> 00:50:44,386
What you remember
is what you saw.
1203
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:48,873
- The salacious or the
shock value of images
1204
00:50:48,907 --> 00:50:51,462
can be used in order
to kind of manipulate
1205
00:50:51,496 --> 00:50:54,706
peoples behavior.
1206
00:50:54,741 --> 00:50:56,570
- Dead children
are normally taboo,
1207
00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:58,469
especially on the front page.
1208
00:50:58,503 --> 00:51:01,265
But next morning, almost
every UK newspaper
1209
00:51:01,299 --> 00:51:04,302
broke the rule and ran an
image on the front cover.
1210
00:51:04,337 --> 00:51:05,786
- And if you compare that
1211
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:11,999
to the bodies in Europe
from terrorist attacks,
1212
00:51:12,034 --> 00:51:13,760
some of which committed by
1213
00:51:13,794 --> 00:51:15,520
these migrants or
their descendants.
1214
00:51:16,763 --> 00:51:18,937
Those bodies you can't see.
1215
00:51:18,972 --> 00:51:21,285
Showing those bodies
can get you censored
1216
00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:22,320
on social media.
1217
00:51:22,355 --> 00:51:24,115
- People still have fears.
1218
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:25,461
Fears that migrants might have
1219
00:51:25,496 --> 00:51:27,291
an ISIS member
lurking among them,
1220
00:51:27,325 --> 00:51:29,983
which there has been
no credible example of.
1221
00:51:32,537 --> 00:51:35,092
News broke that one of the
attackers may have posed
1222
00:51:35,126 --> 00:51:36,645
as a refugee and entered Europe
1223
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,026
through Greece with a
fake Syrian passport.
1224
00:51:39,061 --> 00:51:41,477
- Knowing that you're not
seeing those photographs
1225
00:51:41,512 --> 00:51:42,996
should be a tip, right?
1226
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:47,414
It should be a clue.
1227
00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:52,178
- So I had always
sensed that the news,
1228
00:51:52,212 --> 00:51:53,317
there was a lot of fake news.
1229
00:51:53,351 --> 00:51:54,697
I'd always sensed it,
1230
00:51:54,732 --> 00:51:57,804
but I lived it, and I was
completely behind the scenes.
1231
00:51:57,838 --> 00:52:00,462
What happened, what
brought me into journalism,
1232
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:04,155
is there was a
big thing going on
1233
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:07,262
in Budapest Hungary
with migrants.
1234
00:52:07,296 --> 00:52:09,643
The media was saying
the Hungarian people
1235
00:52:09,678 --> 00:52:11,473
are just beating
up these migrants,
1236
00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:12,888
and they're abusing them.
1237
00:52:12,922 --> 00:52:14,200
This is so terrible.
1238
00:52:15,408 --> 00:52:18,273
So I happened to be
over in Budapest.
1239
00:52:18,307 --> 00:52:20,965
So I just said I was going to
be in Hungary through my blog.
1240
00:52:20,999 --> 00:52:22,311
And I started getting
emails from people.
1241
00:52:22,346 --> 00:52:23,347
I see you're gonna
be in Hungary.
1242
00:52:23,381 --> 00:52:24,417
I actually live here.
1243
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:27,523
And then I decided to have
a meet-up through my blog.
1244
00:52:27,558 --> 00:52:28,731
Because they said, oh yeah,
1245
00:52:28,766 --> 00:52:30,388
the media's like totally
lying about this.
1246
00:52:30,423 --> 00:52:32,356
We'll show you what's
really going on.
1247
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:35,255
And then I thought,
wait a minute.
1248
00:52:36,498 --> 00:52:37,809
I don't have blog readers.
1249
00:52:37,844 --> 00:52:38,983
I don't have book readers.
1250
00:52:39,017 --> 00:52:41,158
I have a human
intelligence network.
1251
00:52:41,192 --> 00:52:43,332
And then I thought
about "Fight Club."
1252
00:52:43,367 --> 00:52:45,714
They said we're the
ones serving your food.
1253
00:52:45,748 --> 00:52:47,405
We're the ones
watching your car.
1254
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,889
We're the parking
lot attendants.
1255
00:52:48,924 --> 00:52:50,719
We're the baristas.
1256
00:52:50,753 --> 00:52:53,687
And I kind of had that
moment where I go,
1257
00:52:53,722 --> 00:52:55,482
yeah I don't have readers.
1258
00:52:55,517 --> 00:52:57,174
I now have sources.
1259
00:52:58,347 --> 00:53:00,349
- Do not fuck with us.
1260
00:53:02,282 --> 00:53:04,595
- So I went to Hungary
and I reported on
1261
00:53:04,629 --> 00:53:08,046
the refugee hoax
that was going on.
1262
00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:10,117
They were actually being
very well taken care of.
1263
00:53:10,152 --> 00:53:11,878
There was charity
everywhere you looked.
1264
00:53:11,912 --> 00:53:13,776
Everybody there
is very well fed.
1265
00:53:13,811 --> 00:53:16,123
Multiple meals, cleaning areas,
1266
00:53:16,158 --> 00:53:17,366
tent cities everywhere.
1267
00:53:17,401 --> 00:53:18,885
The men are playing soccer.
1268
00:53:18,919 --> 00:53:20,369
People are goofing off.
1269
00:53:20,404 --> 00:53:23,786
Completely different than
what was being reported.
1270
00:53:25,098 --> 00:53:27,134
There was one woman
in a wheelchair.
1271
00:53:27,169 --> 00:53:28,412
So you know what?
1272
00:53:28,446 --> 00:53:30,448
All the media people
lined up to talk
1273
00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:32,623
to the one woman
in the wheelchair.
1274
00:53:32,657 --> 00:53:35,384
No camera was on anything
else happening there.
1275
00:53:35,419 --> 00:53:36,696
So as I'm there witnessing it,
1276
00:53:36,730 --> 00:53:38,284
then I would read
the New York Times,
1277
00:53:38,318 --> 00:53:40,251
and you see an image of a child,
1278
00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:42,529
or a person in a
wheelchair or something.
1279
00:53:42,564 --> 00:53:44,531
No, there were like
10 or 15 kids there.
1280
00:53:44,566 --> 00:53:46,809
The rest of them were men
of prime fighting age.
1281
00:53:46,844 --> 00:53:48,225
What happened for me personally
1282
00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:49,467
at the Colletti Train Station
1283
00:53:49,502 --> 00:53:51,193
is I had never had
something go viral.
1284
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:53,609
I uploaded pictures on Facebook,
1285
00:53:53,644 --> 00:53:56,647
and I got over a million
people reach on Facebook.
1286
00:53:56,681 --> 00:53:59,581
And I go, wow, okay,
I'm on to something.
1287
00:53:59,615 --> 00:54:00,823
And then I started to say,
1288
00:54:00,858 --> 00:54:02,377
well I'm gonna take
people behind the news.
1289
00:54:02,411 --> 00:54:05,587
I'm gonna put the
camera on the media.
1290
00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:07,899
- Could have undermined
the messaging so much
1291
00:54:07,934 --> 00:54:10,488
that he can actually control
1292
00:54:10,523 --> 00:54:12,318
exactly what people think.
1293
00:54:12,352 --> 00:54:15,631
And that it our job.
1294
00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:16,943
- The old guard is gone.
1295
00:54:16,977 --> 00:54:18,116
The new guard is here.
1296
00:54:18,151 --> 00:54:19,463
Journalism on the web,
1297
00:54:19,497 --> 00:54:21,913
and created specifically
for the web,
1298
00:54:21,948 --> 00:54:24,191
is disrupting traditional models
1299
00:54:24,226 --> 00:54:25,745
and creating new ones.
1300
00:54:25,779 --> 00:54:27,298
- You're credited
with pretty much
1301
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:30,025
digitally revolutionizing
this whole new media movement.
1302
00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,302
- My name is Tim Pool.
1303
00:54:31,337 --> 00:54:32,993
I'm a journalist
and technologist.
1304
00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:36,411
I cover conflict and crisis
stories all over the world.
1305
00:54:36,445 --> 00:54:38,309
I was in Egypt during
the revolution.
1306
00:54:38,344 --> 00:54:40,277
I was in Ukraine at the
start of the civil war.
1307
00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:43,280
I was in the Venezuelan student
uprising a few years ago.
1308
00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:45,351
Among many other stories.
1309
00:54:45,385 --> 00:54:48,457
I think the new media
is finding faster,
1310
00:54:48,492 --> 00:54:50,494
better, and more efficient
ways to cover the story
1311
00:54:50,528 --> 00:54:52,116
than old media ever can.
1312
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:54,118
When I go out on the
ground to report,
1313
00:54:54,152 --> 00:54:56,672
I have a GoPro that's about
this big, and my phone.
1314
00:54:56,707 --> 00:54:57,949
I can strap the
phone to my chest,
1315
00:54:57,984 --> 00:54:59,779
which does a high
definition live broadcast.
1316
00:54:59,813 --> 00:55:01,815
I can interact with my audience.
1317
00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:02,954
And then I look over to my side,
1318
00:55:02,989 --> 00:55:04,231
and I see a big satellite truck
1319
00:55:04,266 --> 00:55:05,957
that costs 10 times,
100 times as much
1320
00:55:05,992 --> 00:55:07,545
as my cell phone plan.
1321
00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:10,307
- TV-31 wants you to
meet our newest addition.
1322
00:55:11,687 --> 00:55:13,827
- I'm filming two
things at once.
1323
00:55:13,862 --> 00:55:16,451
I'm reporting, I'm filming,
1324
00:55:16,485 --> 00:55:18,625
I'm interacting
with the audience.
1325
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:20,247
I'm also filming a
separate segment.
1326
00:55:20,282 --> 00:55:22,526
The jobs of four
people in one person.
1327
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,149
And they still
can't get the speed
1328
00:55:25,183 --> 00:55:26,564
and content that I can.
1329
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:28,911
- Yeah, I took that mindset of,
1330
00:55:28,946 --> 00:55:31,845
going behind the
scenes to Trump events.
1331
00:55:39,197 --> 00:55:41,855
Not to rallies, which
I found quite boring.
1332
00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:44,099
But to what was
happening outside.
1333
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:45,549
And it was carnage.
1334
00:55:48,621 --> 00:55:49,656
- Fucking disgrace!
1335
00:55:49,691 --> 00:55:50,864
- People were taking
over the streets,
1336
00:55:50,899 --> 00:55:52,210
were tearing down signs,
1337
00:55:52,245 --> 00:55:55,006
sucker punching people,
screaming at people.
1338
00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:57,112
It was pandemonium, and
I just live streamed.
1339
00:55:57,146 --> 00:55:58,389
I didn't know what was going on.
1340
00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,702
I just live streamed
the whole thing.
1341
00:56:00,736 --> 00:56:03,187
And my phone went dead.
1342
00:56:03,221 --> 00:56:04,188
'Cause at the
time, I didn't know
1343
00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:05,085
to have a battery pack.
1344
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,604
You're like a rookie, right?
1345
00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:11,402
So I'm running to
charge my battery.
1346
00:56:11,437 --> 00:56:13,128
Get like three, four, 5%.
1347
00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:18,167
Sprint back, live streaming,
sprinting back, live streaming.
1348
00:56:18,651 --> 00:56:19,548
And it was fun.
1349
00:56:19,583 --> 00:56:21,032
It was a major adrenaline rush.
1350
00:56:21,067 --> 00:56:23,034
- The biggest difference between
1351
00:56:23,069 --> 00:56:26,762
independent journalist
and a mainstream reporter
1352
00:56:26,797 --> 00:56:28,557
first is the
entrepreneurial attitude.
1353
00:56:28,592 --> 00:56:30,628
It's a huge risk to
go off on your own.
1354
00:56:30,663 --> 00:56:32,734
And so immediately,
there's going to be
1355
00:56:32,768 --> 00:56:34,805
a different perspective
on the world.
1356
00:56:34,839 --> 00:56:36,876
A lot of the
traditional journalists,
1357
00:56:36,910 --> 00:56:39,603
they get out of school,
they look for a job.
1358
00:56:39,637 --> 00:56:41,259
A lot of independent journalists
1359
00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:42,433
know what they want to do,
1360
00:56:42,468 --> 00:56:44,539
and oftentimes
will fly themselves
1361
00:56:44,573 --> 00:56:46,472
to some dangerous
part of the world,
1362
00:56:46,506 --> 00:56:47,576
'cause they want the story.
1363
00:56:47,611 --> 00:56:49,095
- Yeah, but we live
for this, you know?
1364
00:56:49,129 --> 00:56:50,717
We live to tell the truth.
1365
00:56:50,752 --> 00:56:53,168
Nobody else is gonna do
it, we have to do it.
1366
00:56:53,202 --> 00:56:56,620
So, here's another great
example of fake news.
1367
00:56:56,654 --> 00:56:58,967
If you watch the
news of the RNC,
1368
00:56:59,001 --> 00:57:03,937
you would be told
total chaos, division.
1369
00:57:04,766 --> 00:57:06,664
Oh there's protests everywhere.
1370
00:57:06,699 --> 00:57:08,390
Protests everywhere at the RNC.
1371
00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:11,566
You go to these
protests, it's 20 people.
1372
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,670
I kid you not.
1373
00:57:13,637 --> 00:57:15,777
20 people.
1374
00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:18,469
And 100 media people,
taking pictures.
1375
00:57:18,504 --> 00:57:19,366
And they would stage 'em.
1376
00:57:19,401 --> 00:57:20,920
And they would crop the shot
1377
00:57:20,954 --> 00:57:23,647
so you couldn't really tell
how many people were there.
1378
00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:24,993
- So disappointed
by these protests.
1379
00:57:25,027 --> 00:57:25,925
- Yeah I know.
1380
00:57:25,959 --> 00:57:27,029
I'm gonna have to go to DNC.
1381
00:57:30,516 --> 00:57:31,655
- So I go,
1382
00:57:31,689 --> 00:57:36,004
and I was in a
real protest march.
1383
00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:43,598
- Burn that fucking white
capitalist shit the fuck down.
1384
00:57:43,632 --> 00:57:44,426
- Oh shit, oh shit.
1385
00:57:45,496 --> 00:57:46,808
Someone got burned!
1386
00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:49,189
- If you turn on the news,
you're not seeing this.
1387
00:57:49,224 --> 00:57:52,538
Day one of the DNC, I'm
out there, Periscope-ing,
1388
00:57:52,572 --> 00:57:54,056
live streaming videos.
1389
00:57:54,091 --> 00:57:56,507
There are 5,000 people at least
1390
00:57:56,542 --> 00:57:58,682
at FDR Park across from the DNC.
1391
00:57:58,716 --> 00:57:59,786
Alright, 360.
1392
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,481
Right?
1393
00:58:04,515 --> 00:58:05,861
That's everywhere,
okay, everywhere.
1394
00:58:05,896 --> 00:58:08,864
You know how many mainstream
journalists I saw there?
1395
00:58:08,899 --> 00:58:09,865
Zero.
1396
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,385
There's not even
one journalist here.
1397
00:58:12,419 --> 00:58:13,179
Except for me.
1398
00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:14,525
They're all on Twitter,
1399
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,907
talking about the future
of the Democratic Party
1400
00:58:16,941 --> 00:58:18,529
and the future of the election.
1401
00:58:18,564 --> 00:58:21,014
They're unbelievably lazy.
1402
00:58:21,049 --> 00:58:23,672
You know, being a right
winger in New York City,
1403
00:58:23,707 --> 00:58:26,710
I'm drowned in the opposition,
1404
00:58:26,744 --> 00:58:28,435
and you learn to enjoy conflict.
1405
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:29,747
You learn to enjoy arguing,
1406
00:58:29,782 --> 00:58:32,232
and I think it makes you
a more complete person.
1407
00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:33,924
And we wonder why the the media
1408
00:58:33,958 --> 00:58:35,373
has become mentally obese.
1409
00:58:38,722 --> 00:58:40,206
These people don't
leave their desks.
1410
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,104
And this is true of
the right and the left.
1411
00:58:42,139 --> 00:58:43,416
They'll sit there
and they'll Google,
1412
00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:45,004
and they'll talk
about a backlash,
1413
00:58:45,038 --> 00:58:46,730
and you'll go check the
evidence of this backlash
1414
00:58:46,764 --> 00:58:48,766
and you realize
it's just tweets.
1415
00:58:48,801 --> 00:58:51,010
There's no more Watergate
from the beat reporter,
1416
00:58:51,044 --> 00:58:52,218
talking to people on the street,
1417
00:58:52,252 --> 00:58:53,840
'cause he just uses Google.
1418
00:58:53,875 --> 00:58:57,603
These kids now are turning to
themselves for information.
1419
00:58:57,637 --> 00:58:59,225
They're their own journalists.
1420
00:58:59,259 --> 00:59:00,916
And that's what's so
exciting about this time,
1421
00:59:00,951 --> 00:59:03,712
is someone like James
O'Keefe can come along
1422
00:59:03,747 --> 00:59:06,922
with an undercover camera
and totally blow up
1423
00:59:06,957 --> 00:59:09,235
the New York Times, fake voting,
1424
00:59:09,269 --> 00:59:10,754
all of this stuff
by going out there
1425
00:59:10,788 --> 00:59:13,135
and just doing it themselves.
1426
00:59:13,170 --> 00:59:14,792
- So the biggest rub on me
1427
00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:15,966
is that I'm not a journalist.
1428
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,277
That's what they will say.
1429
00:59:17,312 --> 00:59:18,865
James O'Keefe is
not a journalist.
1430
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,868
Whatever they want to call
us, it doesn't matter.
1431
00:59:21,903 --> 00:59:24,284
What matters is the thing
that you are producing.
1432
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:27,218
I'd like to get comments
as soon as possible.
1433
00:59:27,253 --> 00:59:28,323
- Oh okay.
1434
00:59:28,357 --> 00:59:29,117
From name?
1435
00:59:29,151 --> 00:59:30,290
- James O'Keefe.
1436
00:59:32,292 --> 00:59:33,742
- Can I put you
on hold really quick?
1437
00:59:33,777 --> 00:59:34,916
- Yeah thanks.
1438
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:36,987
This is the oh shit moment.
1439
00:59:37,021 --> 00:59:39,748
Journalism is not just an
identity, it's an activity.
1440
00:59:39,783 --> 00:59:42,061
It is what you do.
1441
00:59:42,095 --> 00:59:44,891
And you judge people based
on what they produce.
1442
00:59:44,926 --> 00:59:46,824
Basically, everyone
is a journalist.
1443
00:59:46,859 --> 00:59:49,931
- But here you have actual
grassroots activism,
1444
00:59:49,965 --> 00:59:51,588
and there's no media.
1445
00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:53,106
So you go to the DNC,
1446
00:59:53,141 --> 00:59:55,764
you see this massive
protest, real protest.
1447
00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:57,801
Not like this
bullshit at the RNC.
1448
00:59:57,835 --> 00:59:59,768
Which the media hyped up.
1449
00:59:59,803 --> 01:00:02,357
Real protestors, and
they're democrats,
1450
01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,015
and they're being kept
out by this big cage.
1451
01:00:05,049 --> 01:00:06,775
- It's like we're the
criminals, but not her.
1452
01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:08,156
- Let us go!
1453
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:09,502
- And they're all talking
about how they hate Hillary.
1454
01:00:09,536 --> 01:00:10,952
They're not gonna vote for her.
1455
01:00:10,986 --> 01:00:12,539
They're not gonna do
anything for Hillary Clinton,
1456
01:00:12,574 --> 01:00:14,645
'cause they thought
the primary was rigged.
1457
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,337
And there's no mainstream
coverage of this at all.
1458
01:00:17,372 --> 01:00:18,649
They're chanting Wikileaks.
1459
01:00:18,684 --> 01:00:19,926
What do you think
about the Wikileaks?
1460
01:00:19,961 --> 01:00:22,135
- Yeah, that's the last straw.
1461
01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:24,172
That is the proof of
what we've all expected
1462
01:00:24,206 --> 01:00:25,691
that they've been doing.
1463
01:00:25,725 --> 01:00:28,210
- Wikileaks released thousands
of emails from the DNC,
1464
01:00:28,245 --> 01:00:31,179
appearing to show favoritism
towards Hillary Clinton.
1465
01:00:31,213 --> 01:00:33,802
- CNN can't verify the
authenticity of those emails,
1466
01:00:33,837 --> 01:00:35,045
but they suggest that--
1467
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,047
- Bernie Sanders
may have been right.
1468
01:00:37,081 --> 01:00:39,877
The primary system was
rigged against him.
1469
01:00:39,912 --> 01:00:42,017
- Wikileaks offered a
window into the world
1470
01:00:42,052 --> 01:00:44,502
that most people
would have never had,
1471
01:00:44,537 --> 01:00:47,402
and that's the real reason the
media lied about Wikileaks.
1472
01:00:47,436 --> 01:00:49,542
When Chris Cuomo said on CNN--
1473
01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:53,339
- It's illegal to possess
these stolen documents.
1474
01:00:53,373 --> 01:00:54,685
It's different for the media.
1475
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,652
So everything you
learn about this,
1476
01:00:55,686 --> 01:00:57,308
you're learning from us.
1477
01:00:57,343 --> 01:00:58,309
It's different for the media.
1478
01:00:58,344 --> 01:00:59,517
It's different for the media.
1479
01:00:59,552 --> 01:01:00,484
- Wikileaks showed, though,
1480
01:01:00,518 --> 01:01:01,727
the extent of the collusion.
1481
01:01:01,761 --> 01:01:04,971
There were, I believe,
52 reporters who
1482
01:01:05,006 --> 01:01:06,801
had had various off the record,
1483
01:01:06,835 --> 01:01:08,699
very homey dinners
with John Podesta.
1484
01:01:08,734 --> 01:01:10,218
So they're all great friends.
1485
01:01:10,252 --> 01:01:12,530
Glenn Throsh, who
was then at Politico
1486
01:01:12,565 --> 01:01:13,877
and now at the New York Times,
1487
01:01:13,911 --> 01:01:15,879
emails John Podesta and said,
1488
01:01:15,913 --> 01:01:17,984
"I'm such a hack that
I'm gonna send you
1489
01:01:18,019 --> 01:01:19,917
"the part of the article
that pertains to you
1490
01:01:19,952 --> 01:01:21,919
"before it's released."
1491
01:01:21,954 --> 01:01:24,025
What they were doing
is they're giving
1492
01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:25,923
the other side a head start.
1493
01:01:25,958 --> 01:01:28,857
Hey, we're about to drop this
hit piece on you tomorrow.
1494
01:01:28,892 --> 01:01:30,687
Get your talking points
locked and loaded tonight.
1495
01:01:30,721 --> 01:01:32,102
It's amazingly valuable.
1496
01:01:32,136 --> 01:01:33,897
Not only did he
not get punished,
1497
01:01:33,931 --> 01:01:36,002
he is now the White
House correspondent
1498
01:01:36,037 --> 01:01:36,900
at the New York Times.
1499
01:01:41,111 --> 01:01:45,218
Maggie Haberman, who I also
believe is at Politico,
1500
01:01:45,253 --> 01:01:47,255
was referred to as
a friendly reporter
1501
01:01:47,289 --> 01:01:50,085
that the Clinton campaign
would use to tee up stories.
1502
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,848
Maggie Haberman now works
at the New York Times.
1503
01:01:53,882 --> 01:01:55,401
- I have an uphill climb,
1504
01:01:55,435 --> 01:01:58,093
and I'm gonna climb as
high and hard as I can.
1505
01:01:58,128 --> 01:02:00,924
- Donna Brazile was
a CNN contributor,
1506
01:02:00,958 --> 01:02:03,754
and she obtained some
questions from the town hall
1507
01:02:03,789 --> 01:02:05,756
which was competitive between
1508
01:02:05,791 --> 01:02:07,654
Hillary Clinton
and Bernie Sanders,
1509
01:02:07,689 --> 01:02:09,587
and she gave the questions
to Hillary Clinton.
1510
01:02:09,622 --> 01:02:13,971
She confirmed that the primary
was rigged against Bernie,
1511
01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:16,077
and it was rigged for Hillary.
1512
01:02:16,111 --> 01:02:17,975
She revealed that based on
the fundraising agreement
1513
01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:20,150
between Hillary
Clinton's campaign
1514
01:02:20,184 --> 01:02:23,118
and between the DNC that all
the messaging from the DNC
1515
01:02:23,153 --> 01:02:25,120
had to be cleared by
what she called Brooklyn.
1516
01:02:25,155 --> 01:02:27,778
That was the Hillary
Clinton office.
1517
01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:29,642
Every press release
had to be pre-approved.
1518
01:02:29,676 --> 01:02:31,575
Well that's a nice advantage.
1519
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:33,611
I would like every
article about me
1520
01:02:33,646 --> 01:02:34,820
to have to be
pre-approved by me.
1521
01:02:34,854 --> 01:02:36,269
That would be amazing.
1522
01:02:36,304 --> 01:02:39,134
Wikileaks confirmed what
people already knew,
1523
01:02:39,169 --> 01:02:41,654
but couldn't prove,
which is that the media
1524
01:02:41,688 --> 01:02:43,311
and the democrats
are one in the same.
1525
01:02:43,345 --> 01:02:44,105
There is no difference.
1526
01:02:44,139 --> 01:02:45,762
They're all buddy buddy.
1527
01:02:45,796 --> 01:02:47,073
And whatever you read
in the mainstream news
1528
01:02:47,108 --> 01:02:49,317
is gonna be the
democrat talking points.
1529
01:02:49,351 --> 01:02:50,594
- One of the things
I don't think
1530
01:02:50,628 --> 01:02:53,148
you need to convince
anybody anymore
1531
01:02:53,183 --> 01:02:55,910
is that the media is biased.
1532
01:02:55,944 --> 01:02:57,635
I think there used to
be a day, you know,
1533
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:59,534
maybe when I was a
kid when people said,
1534
01:02:59,568 --> 01:03:03,710
well, the news is at least
trying not to be biased.
1535
01:03:03,745 --> 01:03:05,022
They're at least trying.
1536
01:03:06,023 --> 01:03:08,163
But now nobody believes that.
1537
01:03:08,198 --> 01:03:12,823
What they do believe, which
is weirder and maybe worse,
1538
01:03:12,858 --> 01:03:15,653
is that they believe that
only the other side is biased.
1539
01:03:16,862 --> 01:03:19,796
And that's a tough one to crack.
1540
01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:21,314
- You know, a lot of
people will look at me
1541
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:23,489
and they'll say, "Lauren,
you've obviously got a bias."
1542
01:03:23,523 --> 01:03:25,146
Yeah, everyone has a bias.
1543
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:26,147
I'm just honest about it.
1544
01:03:26,181 --> 01:03:27,389
I will tell you, yeah,
1545
01:03:27,424 --> 01:03:29,115
I'm coming from a right
wing point of view.
1546
01:03:29,150 --> 01:03:32,498
That's why my feelings
inside, I am right wing.
1547
01:03:32,532 --> 01:03:34,155
So I'm gonna
explain that to you,
1548
01:03:34,189 --> 01:03:36,985
and tell you to go look and
read other journalism as well.
1549
01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:39,194
- It doesn't matter if you are
1550
01:03:39,229 --> 01:03:40,506
one political side or the other.
1551
01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:41,852
It matters are you
gonna tell the truth
1552
01:03:41,887 --> 01:03:43,129
about what happened.
1553
01:03:43,164 --> 01:03:45,718
And so, with a lot
of these journalists,
1554
01:03:45,752 --> 01:03:49,135
they're more
interested in winning.
1555
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,310
They're more interested
in the political agenda.
1556
01:03:51,344 --> 01:03:53,760
They're more interested in
fitting in than being honest.
1557
01:03:53,795 --> 01:03:55,693
- If I was the CEO of the
New York Times, I would say,
1558
01:03:55,728 --> 01:03:57,488
I would bring all my
reporters in the room and say,
1559
01:03:57,523 --> 01:03:58,973
"Here's the deal.
1560
01:03:59,007 --> 01:04:01,251
"If you have an opinion,
1561
01:04:01,285 --> 01:04:03,391
"and it gets injected
into your article,
1562
01:04:03,425 --> 01:04:05,980
"then state that to the public."
1563
01:04:06,014 --> 01:04:07,257
- The issue with
the mainstream media
1564
01:04:07,291 --> 01:04:09,017
is they tell you I'm neutral,
1565
01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:11,537
I'm coming from a position
that's totally impartial.
1566
01:04:13,194 --> 01:04:16,853
- President Obama is the most
noble man who has ever lived
1567
01:04:16,887 --> 01:04:18,095
in the White House.
1568
01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:20,787
- The Manchurian candidate
couldn't destroy us
1569
01:04:20,822 --> 01:04:22,582
faster than Barack Obama.
1570
01:04:22,617 --> 01:04:26,414
- It's illegal to possess
these stolen documents.
1571
01:04:26,448 --> 01:04:29,417
- The
most trusted name in news.
1572
01:04:29,451 --> 01:04:30,728
- It's ridiculous.
1573
01:04:30,763 --> 01:04:32,420
You have media that's
literally colluding,
1574
01:04:32,454 --> 01:04:35,009
and during the debates,
they're leaking questions.
1575
01:04:35,043 --> 01:04:37,632
And still pretending
to be impartial media.
1576
01:04:37,666 --> 01:04:39,392
Everyone has a bias.
1577
01:04:39,427 --> 01:04:41,084
It's just some people are
gonna be honest about it,
1578
01:04:41,118 --> 01:04:42,740
and some people aren't.
1579
01:04:42,775 --> 01:04:46,813
And new media, independent
media, are honest about it.
1580
01:04:46,848 --> 01:04:48,194
- What I learned at the DNC,
1581
01:04:48,229 --> 01:04:50,058
not only about the
media being fake
1582
01:04:50,093 --> 01:04:52,543
and how they would construct
a fake narrative in real time,
1583
01:04:52,578 --> 01:04:55,926
but I did see how the
democrats and the media
1584
01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:58,204
were covering up the whole
Bernie Sanders thing.
1585
01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,103
And I said, but there's
no way in the world
1586
01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:01,138
Hillary Clinton is going to win.
1587
01:05:01,173 --> 01:05:04,038
So people of course
call me all year.
1588
01:05:04,072 --> 01:05:05,625
You're an idiot, you're
a conspiracy theorist,
1589
01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:07,282
you don't know anything.
1590
01:05:07,317 --> 01:05:08,214
You're not an expert, blah.
1591
01:05:08,249 --> 01:05:09,595
And I was like, well,
1592
01:05:09,629 --> 01:05:11,735
that's because you're
watching the news.
1593
01:05:17,948 --> 01:05:19,294
- Could he actually win?
1594
01:05:19,329 --> 01:05:20,951
- No freaking way!
1595
01:05:21,987 --> 01:05:23,643
- And which republican candidate
1596
01:05:23,678 --> 01:05:26,681
has the best chance of
winning the general election?
1597
01:05:26,715 --> 01:05:29,960
- Of the declared ones,
right now, Donald Trump.
1598
01:05:32,307 --> 01:05:35,000
- We have Hillary as about
75 or an 80% favorite.
1599
01:05:35,034 --> 01:05:36,139
We have a different
person to forecast.
1600
01:05:36,173 --> 01:05:38,831
- 89% for Hillary Clinton.
1601
01:05:38,865 --> 01:05:41,144
- Hillary Clinton has a
100% chance of winning.
1602
01:05:41,178 --> 01:05:42,800
- The Presidential race is over.
1603
01:05:42,835 --> 01:05:44,526
- The state of the race
at the presidential level
1604
01:05:44,561 --> 01:05:46,149
is virtually over.
1605
01:05:46,183 --> 01:05:49,186
- Oklahoma, Tennessee,
Mississippi, South Carolina.
1606
01:05:49,221 --> 01:05:51,671
- Pretty dramatic
change in the forecast.
1607
01:05:51,706 --> 01:05:54,847
- They were in a weird,
weird situation right now.
1608
01:05:54,881 --> 01:05:57,194
- And CNN projects
Donald Trump will carry
1609
01:05:57,229 --> 01:05:58,299
the state of Florida.
1610
01:05:58,333 --> 01:05:59,541
- Ohio will
go to Donald Trump.
1611
01:05:59,576 --> 01:06:01,026
Donald Trump has won
1612
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:02,337
the state of Pennsylvania.
1613
01:06:02,372 --> 01:06:04,167
- That is the race.
1614
01:06:04,201 --> 01:06:06,514
- Donald Trump
wins the presidency.
1615
01:06:06,548 --> 01:06:08,205
- America is crying tonight.
1616
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,276
- Everybody is crying.
1617
01:06:10,311 --> 01:06:12,278
- How do we explain
how this is possible.
1618
01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:13,866
- How did this happen?
1619
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:15,661
- I think election day
questions have been raised
1620
01:06:15,695 --> 01:06:17,456
about the role that
false news stories
1621
01:06:17,490 --> 01:06:19,803
distributed online played
in the final result.
1622
01:06:19,837 --> 01:06:21,184
- There's been a lot
of talk lately about--
1623
01:06:21,218 --> 01:06:22,288
- Fake news.
- Fake news.
1624
01:06:22,323 --> 01:06:23,496
- Fake news.
1625
01:06:23,531 --> 01:06:25,153
- Hoax sites and
hyper-partisan blogs.
1626
01:06:25,188 --> 01:06:26,292
- That
are spread further
1627
01:06:26,327 --> 01:06:27,742
on social media platforms.
1628
01:06:27,776 --> 01:06:29,295
- As long as it's
on social media,
1629
01:06:29,330 --> 01:06:30,538
people start believing it.
1630
01:06:30,572 --> 01:06:32,298
- Real world
political implications.
1631
01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:33,713
- Real world consequences.
1632
01:06:33,748 --> 01:06:35,336
- A threat to democracy.
1633
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:38,028
- Journalists are over-playing
the fake news stories
1634
01:06:38,063 --> 01:06:40,410
to demonize people
you don't agree with.
1635
01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:45,070
- In this last election,
1636
01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:48,004
the nation was
assaulted by imposters
1637
01:06:48,038 --> 01:06:50,351
masquerading as reporters.
1638
01:06:50,385 --> 01:06:53,181
Michael Cernovich, a
southern California lawyer,
1639
01:06:53,216 --> 01:06:56,081
has become a magnet for readers,
1640
01:06:56,115 --> 01:07:00,671
with a taste for stories
with no basis in fact.
1641
01:07:00,706 --> 01:07:04,537
- Yeah, 60 Minutes wanted
to do an interview with me
1642
01:07:04,572 --> 01:07:07,368
because they were doing a
big segment on fake news.
1643
01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:10,474
And they wanted to make
me out to be fake news.
1644
01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,684
It was a complete
setup, God bless 'em.
1645
01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:16,618
- Cernovich's website
is just one of hundreds
1646
01:07:16,653 --> 01:07:20,346
publishing nonsense on
the right and on the left.
1647
01:07:20,381 --> 01:07:23,177
- So intelligent
people who are familiar
1648
01:07:23,211 --> 01:07:26,283
with my body of work
understand what I do
1649
01:07:26,318 --> 01:07:28,389
and why I do it,
and it's very meta.
1650
01:07:28,423 --> 01:07:30,977
- The first thing that
Machiavelli would tell
1651
01:07:31,012 --> 01:07:34,222
a prince to do would
be to write a book,
1652
01:07:34,257 --> 01:07:35,568
denouncing the prince.
1653
01:07:35,603 --> 01:07:36,914
And so I think it's
interesting, you know,
1654
01:07:36,949 --> 01:07:40,090
to have someone like
Mike doing a documentary
1655
01:07:40,125 --> 01:07:43,300
about fake news, because
it's owning a term
1656
01:07:43,335 --> 01:07:46,786
that has been directed at
him and people like him.
1657
01:07:46,821 --> 01:07:50,273
- These news stories are fakes.
1658
01:07:50,307 --> 01:07:51,205
- They're definitely not fake.
1659
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:52,068
- They're lies.
1660
01:07:52,102 --> 01:07:53,310
- Not lie at all.
1661
01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:55,450
- One of the reasons
that someone like Mike
1662
01:07:55,485 --> 01:07:58,246
I think aggravates
journalists so much
1663
01:07:58,281 --> 01:08:03,458
is that he's sort of
like a carnival mirror.
1664
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:06,806
- Hillary Clinton
has Parkinson's
1665
01:08:06,841 --> 01:08:09,119
Disease, physician confirms.
1666
01:08:09,154 --> 01:08:10,569
You don't think
that's misleading?
1667
01:08:10,603 --> 01:08:11,846
- No.
1668
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,849
- He's projecting back
at them what they do
1669
01:08:14,883 --> 01:08:17,955
in almost all their,
but to an absurd
1670
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:20,303
and almost offensive lever.
1671
01:08:20,337 --> 01:08:21,476
- Hillary is a zombie.
1672
01:08:21,511 --> 01:08:22,408
What do you guys think?
1673
01:08:22,443 --> 01:08:23,754
You want to do a hashtag?
1674
01:08:23,789 --> 01:08:25,342
What do you think
of zombie Hillary?
1675
01:08:25,377 --> 01:08:28,518
So what I am doing is am
being a fun house mirror,
1676
01:08:28,552 --> 01:08:31,003
where you think that
we're the monsters,
1677
01:08:31,037 --> 01:08:34,110
but really all we're doing
is changing the wording
1678
01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:35,421
on things that you
would actually say.
1679
01:08:35,456 --> 01:08:37,423
Hillary, all I know
is that she is sick.
1680
01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,253
- This is a very sick man.
1681
01:08:39,287 --> 01:08:40,875
He is truly very sick.
1682
01:08:40,909 --> 01:08:44,016
- This is why we need
Hillary's medical records.
1683
01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:46,156
- How recently has
he had a colonoscopy,
1684
01:08:46,191 --> 01:08:47,502
or other cancer tests?
1685
01:08:47,537 --> 01:08:49,366
- John McCain's health
was a big issue.
1686
01:08:49,401 --> 01:08:52,162
The media was all covering
it, is John McCain healthy.
1687
01:08:52,197 --> 01:08:54,440
Everybody's been talking
about Donald Trump's health.
1688
01:08:54,475 --> 01:08:56,166
- Is this president
of sound mind?
1689
01:08:56,201 --> 01:08:57,478
- Whether it's a
personality disorder,
1690
01:08:57,512 --> 01:08:58,479
or borderline personality.
1691
01:08:58,513 --> 01:09:00,619
- He's not in
control of himself.
1692
01:09:00,653 --> 01:09:02,310
- Some people said he had
mental health problems.
1693
01:09:02,345 --> 01:09:05,175
The New Republic said
Donald Trump had syphilis.
1694
01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:07,212
- "The Dangerous Case
of Donald Trump."
1695
01:09:07,246 --> 01:09:09,835
27 psychiatrists and
mental health experts
1696
01:09:09,869 --> 01:09:11,077
assess a president.
1697
01:09:11,112 --> 01:09:13,183
- So if you're a bunch
of psychologists,
1698
01:09:13,218 --> 01:09:14,460
and you want to write a book
1699
01:09:14,495 --> 01:09:15,806
about a patient
you've never seen,
1700
01:09:15,841 --> 01:09:17,808
the media will cover it and
you'll be a best seller.
1701
01:09:17,843 --> 01:09:20,294
- The book includes
and validates
1702
01:09:20,328 --> 01:09:22,744
some of the general
news media's speculation
1703
01:09:22,779 --> 01:09:25,057
about Donald Trump's
mental capacity.
1704
01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:26,334
- With Hillary's health,
1705
01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:27,715
I had a doctor who
had never seen her,
1706
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:28,819
and they remind me of that.
1707
01:09:28,854 --> 01:09:30,096
Well he never treated her.
1708
01:09:30,131 --> 01:09:31,408
That story was sourced
1709
01:09:31,443 --> 01:09:34,515
to an anesthesiologist
who never met Clinton.
1710
01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:36,482
- What is your take
of all the doctors
1711
01:09:36,517 --> 01:09:38,001
and clinicians all
across the country
1712
01:09:38,035 --> 01:09:39,761
who have said that
in this president,
1713
01:09:39,796 --> 01:09:42,350
they see symptoms of
this, that, and the other?
1714
01:09:42,385 --> 01:09:45,250
- The duty to warn of ways
1715
01:09:45,284 --> 01:09:48,563
that the consideration
that would normally apply,
1716
01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:50,669
which is I'm not gonna
offer a public diagnosis
1717
01:09:50,703 --> 01:09:52,326
of a person I have not met.
1718
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,568
- But when it's a democrat,
1719
01:09:53,603 --> 01:09:55,432
there's now a new higher
evidentiary standard
1720
01:09:55,467 --> 01:09:59,367
and we can't just talk about
speculation and gossip.
1721
01:09:59,402 --> 01:10:00,782
- The conspiracy du jour,
1722
01:10:00,817 --> 01:10:04,061
Hillary Clinton is harboring
a secret medical condition.
1723
01:10:04,096 --> 01:10:05,511
The President of
the United States
1724
01:10:05,546 --> 01:10:09,032
genuinely appears to be
losing his grip on reality.
1725
01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:10,689
- And that would be
the fun house aspect.
1726
01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:12,587
It's get real.
1727
01:10:12,622 --> 01:10:13,968
They did it to McCain.
1728
01:10:14,002 --> 01:10:14,969
They did it to Trump.
1729
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:16,246
We did it to Hillary.
1730
01:10:16,281 --> 01:10:17,868
They're just gonna
have to get over that.
1731
01:10:17,903 --> 01:10:19,456
- It's the exact same playbook
1732
01:10:19,491 --> 01:10:20,940
that these other
journalists are doing,
1733
01:10:20,975 --> 01:10:25,945
and I think that sort of
mimicry is very upsetting.
1734
01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:29,259
- Which ties into the Scott
Adams theory on two movies.
1735
01:10:29,294 --> 01:10:31,157
If you're Scott Peli,
1736
01:10:31,192 --> 01:10:32,711
you're watching a movie where
1737
01:10:32,745 --> 01:10:35,127
anybody who claims that
Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's
1738
01:10:35,161 --> 01:10:37,578
is a complete and total
conspiracy theorist.
1739
01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:39,925
If you're anybody
else in America,
1740
01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:42,583
you're watching the
movie where you see
1741
01:10:42,617 --> 01:10:45,275
a very sick person
having coughing fits,
1742
01:10:45,310 --> 01:10:46,932
having so called allergies,
1743
01:10:46,966 --> 01:10:48,244
falling down multiple times,
1744
01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:50,453
and then having a
major seizure on 9-11.
1745
01:10:50,487 --> 01:10:51,937
And you're thinking,
1746
01:10:51,971 --> 01:10:54,560
they're calling Cernovich out
for the Hillary's heath thing?
1747
01:10:54,595 --> 01:10:56,493
She had a seizure and froze up
1748
01:10:56,528 --> 01:10:58,461
walking into her motorcade.
1749
01:11:00,497 --> 01:11:02,327
- Well, she had
pneumonia, I mean...
1750
01:11:02,361 --> 01:11:03,155
- How do you know?
1751
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:04,329
Who told you that?
1752
01:11:04,363 --> 01:11:05,640
- Well the campaign
told us that.
1753
01:11:05,675 --> 01:11:07,021
- Why would you
trust a campaign?
1754
01:11:07,055 --> 01:11:08,298
- The point is--
1755
01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:09,575
- The camera didn't show there,
1756
01:11:09,610 --> 01:11:11,267
but he actually
dropped his glasses.
1757
01:11:11,301 --> 01:11:13,579
He was so freaked out because
1758
01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:16,099
they're not used to
somebody coming after them.
1759
01:11:16,133 --> 01:11:18,998
The whole power dynamic
of I'm the media,
1760
01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:20,483
and I'm Scott Pely,
and I'm 60 Minutes,
1761
01:11:20,517 --> 01:11:22,036
and we're just gonna
interrogate you
1762
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:23,658
and you're gonna give
us what you want.
1763
01:11:23,693 --> 01:11:25,004
That doesn't even enter my mind.
1764
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:27,283
I'm thinking how
is this gonna look
1765
01:11:27,317 --> 01:11:29,319
when they edit that
clip, and make memes,
1766
01:11:29,354 --> 01:11:30,769
and make viral videos.
1767
01:11:30,803 --> 01:11:34,669
- Disingenuous sort
of online posturing.
1768
01:11:34,704 --> 01:11:36,671
It might feel harmless,
1769
01:11:36,706 --> 01:11:38,501
and this might feel
no different than
1770
01:11:38,535 --> 01:11:41,055
creating lolcat memes.
1771
01:11:41,089 --> 01:11:42,677
But these memes have
real consequences
1772
01:11:42,712 --> 01:11:44,955
in the real world
for real people.
1773
01:11:46,543 --> 01:11:49,719
This idea of fake news
is sort of a misnomer,
1774
01:11:49,753 --> 01:11:52,687
because fake news
creates real opinions,
1775
01:11:52,722 --> 01:11:55,207
which creates real actions.
1776
01:11:55,241 --> 01:11:59,142
And then we live with the real
consequences of that, right?
1777
01:11:59,176 --> 01:12:03,353
No amount of reporting
makes Pizzagate real.
1778
01:12:03,388 --> 01:12:05,804
But the bullet that goes through
1779
01:12:05,838 --> 01:12:08,358
that pizza shop is very real
1780
01:12:08,393 --> 01:12:12,535
and could've killed someone.
1781
01:12:12,569 --> 01:12:14,675
- Pizzagate actually comes from
1782
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:16,677
the Wikileaks release
of hacked emails
1783
01:12:16,711 --> 01:12:19,196
from Clinton campaign
chairman John Podesta.
1784
01:12:19,231 --> 01:12:20,543
And it was from those emails
1785
01:12:20,577 --> 01:12:22,199
that the claims
that John Podesta
1786
01:12:22,234 --> 01:12:25,513
may be part of a child sex
trafficking ring come from.
1787
01:12:25,548 --> 01:12:27,722
- Whenever the media
talks about Pizzagate,
1788
01:12:27,757 --> 01:12:29,655
don't just look at
what they bring up.
1789
01:12:29,690 --> 01:12:31,519
Look at what they
don't bring up.
1790
01:12:31,554 --> 01:12:35,178
The Pizzagate, as it's now
called a conspiracy theory,
1791
01:12:35,212 --> 01:12:38,388
actually originated in a
Podesta email that's quite weird
1792
01:12:38,423 --> 01:12:40,494
and to this day is perplexing.
1793
01:12:40,528 --> 01:12:43,048
Where somebody
told John Podesta,
1794
01:12:43,082 --> 01:12:45,775
you left a handkerchief
on the counter.
1795
01:12:45,809 --> 01:12:47,363
There's a map on there.
1796
01:12:47,397 --> 01:12:49,295
Something pizza-related.
1797
01:12:51,470 --> 01:12:53,023
Who cares, a handkerchief?
1798
01:12:53,058 --> 01:12:54,853
Throw a handkerchief away.
1799
01:12:54,887 --> 01:12:56,613
You're gonna FedEx
somebody a handkerchief?
1800
01:12:56,648 --> 01:12:58,443
That's so bizarre.
1801
01:12:58,477 --> 01:13:00,859
And then who writes a
map on a handkerchief?
1802
01:13:00,893 --> 01:13:03,551
And then the map is
something pizza-related.
1803
01:13:03,586 --> 01:13:04,449
That's bizarre.
1804
01:13:04,483 --> 01:13:05,967
That's code word for something.
1805
01:13:06,002 --> 01:13:07,797
Could be codes for drugs.
1806
01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:10,593
I don't know, but nobody
in the media ever said,
1807
01:13:10,627 --> 01:13:13,389
hey dude, why would
you have a handkerchief
1808
01:13:13,423 --> 01:13:15,391
with a map on it
that's pizza-related,
1809
01:13:15,425 --> 01:13:16,633
and why would anybody
think it's important enough
1810
01:13:16,668 --> 01:13:18,532
to send it to you?
1811
01:13:18,566 --> 01:13:21,707
- Users of the anonymous
online message board 4chan,
1812
01:13:21,742 --> 01:13:23,571
known for rogue
political discussion,
1813
01:13:23,606 --> 01:13:26,056
suggested without
any proof whatsoever
1814
01:13:26,091 --> 01:13:29,232
that the word pizza was code
for child sex trafficking
1815
01:13:29,266 --> 01:13:30,785
at the restaurant.
1816
01:13:30,820 --> 01:13:32,615
The conspiracy theory
quickly spread to Reddit,
1817
01:13:32,649 --> 01:13:35,583
and YouTube, feeding
fake online news stories,
1818
01:13:35,618 --> 01:13:37,930
then jumping to
Facebook and Twitter.
1819
01:13:37,965 --> 01:13:39,449
- People on 4chan and 8chan,
1820
01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,624
they just post and
they say, guys,
1821
01:13:41,658 --> 01:13:43,419
look at this, what
the hell is this?
1822
01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:44,592
And then they just start
connecting the dots.
1823
01:13:44,627 --> 01:13:45,835
And it's all public record.
1824
01:13:45,869 --> 01:13:47,457
It's all out there
in the public domain.
1825
01:13:47,492 --> 01:13:49,286
And all they're doing
is connecting the dots,
1826
01:13:49,321 --> 01:13:51,323
that the media wouldn't touch.
1827
01:13:52,462 --> 01:13:53,670
And the media wants
you to believe
1828
01:13:53,705 --> 01:13:55,500
that you can't look
at the stuff and say,
1829
01:13:55,534 --> 01:13:57,363
yeah, this is really weird.
1830
01:13:57,398 --> 01:13:58,606
This is really fucking weird.
1831
01:13:58,641 --> 01:14:00,746
- The amazing thing
about Pizzagate
1832
01:14:00,781 --> 01:14:04,474
is that if you start looking
into the evidence for it,
1833
01:14:04,509 --> 01:14:05,924
it's really compelling.
1834
01:14:05,958 --> 01:14:08,340
Meaning that it's
hard to imagine
1835
01:14:08,374 --> 01:14:10,515
that all of that
evidence doesn't mean
1836
01:14:10,549 --> 01:14:15,554
what the Pizzagate
conspiracy thought it meant.
1837
01:14:16,728 --> 01:14:19,144
But, it's also classic
confirmation bias.
1838
01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:21,802
Yeah, there's another piece
of evidence for my side.
1839
01:14:21,836 --> 01:14:23,113
Yeah, there's another one.
1840
01:14:23,148 --> 01:14:26,116
Even though other people
could look at it and just say,
1841
01:14:26,151 --> 01:14:27,877
what the hell are
you talking about?
1842
01:14:27,911 --> 01:14:29,637
I don't see it.
1843
01:14:29,672 --> 01:14:30,983
- The Pizzagate narrative,
1844
01:14:31,018 --> 01:14:34,815
as least as concerning Mr.
Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong,
1845
01:14:34,849 --> 01:14:37,507
we have subsequently
determined was based upon
1846
01:14:37,542 --> 01:14:40,372
what we now believe was
an incorrect narrative.
1847
01:14:40,406 --> 01:14:41,787
We apologize.
1848
01:14:41,822 --> 01:14:43,306
To the extent our commentaries
1849
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:45,239
could be considered
as negative statements
1850
01:14:45,273 --> 01:14:47,862
about Mr. Alefantis
or Comet Ping Pong.
1851
01:14:47,897 --> 01:14:50,347
We encourage you to
hold us accountable,
1852
01:14:50,382 --> 01:14:53,074
because we improve when you do.
1853
01:14:53,109 --> 01:14:55,732
- These, they call themselves
Pizzagate researchers,
1854
01:14:55,767 --> 01:14:57,044
which I never was.
1855
01:14:57,078 --> 01:15:00,841
They have video after
video, analyzing everything.
1856
01:15:00,875 --> 01:15:04,258
And somehow, it became
about a pizza parlor.
1857
01:15:04,292 --> 01:15:06,502
The Comet Pizza
shooting, by the way,
1858
01:15:06,536 --> 01:15:07,813
is a very sad thing,
1859
01:15:07,848 --> 01:15:09,401
and the shooter had
no connection to me,
1860
01:15:09,435 --> 01:15:11,403
he had never read my stuff.
1861
01:15:11,437 --> 01:15:13,819
The fake news media has claimed
1862
01:15:13,854 --> 01:15:16,166
that I propagated it and
spread it and everything,
1863
01:15:16,201 --> 01:15:18,583
but they can never
find me blaming
1864
01:15:18,617 --> 01:15:20,861
that pizza parlor for anything.
1865
01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:22,034
They can never find me blaming
1866
01:15:22,069 --> 01:15:24,105
the owner of that pizza
parlor for anything.
1867
01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:28,213
But I was always focused
on things that were real,
1868
01:15:28,247 --> 01:15:29,732
and that are bizarre.
1869
01:15:29,766 --> 01:15:32,044
- You tweeted the Clintons
were running a pedophilia ring.
1870
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:33,908
It's been in emails
all the time.
1871
01:15:33,943 --> 01:15:35,772
We just weren't able
to see the code.
1872
01:15:35,807 --> 01:15:37,187
- Yeah, I don't agree with that.
1873
01:15:37,222 --> 01:15:38,464
- You
don't agree with that?
1874
01:15:38,499 --> 01:15:39,707
- I definitely don't
think the Clintons
1875
01:15:39,742 --> 01:15:41,364
are personally running
a pedophilia ring.
1876
01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:42,572
- So
why did you write it?
1877
01:15:42,607 --> 01:15:44,263
- That was worded imprecisely.
1878
01:15:44,298 --> 01:15:45,955
That was more--
- Why did you write it then?
1879
01:15:45,989 --> 01:15:47,784
- You can go back to 2004,
1880
01:15:47,819 --> 01:15:48,751
where there was a puff piece
1881
01:15:48,785 --> 01:15:51,098
written about Tony Podesta.
1882
01:15:51,132 --> 01:15:52,858
Washington Post and
The Guardian had both
1883
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,033
written pieces
about what a great
1884
01:15:55,067 --> 01:15:56,862
avant-garde art collector he is.
1885
01:15:56,897 --> 01:15:58,070
- And they say,
oh, it's just art.
1886
01:15:58,105 --> 01:15:59,416
It's just modern art.
1887
01:15:59,451 --> 01:16:00,901
It's just art, don't
worry about it.
1888
01:16:00,935 --> 01:16:02,627
It's kind of like,
that's kind of a cop-out.
1889
01:16:02,661 --> 01:16:04,249
If it's art or not,
it's screwed up.
1890
01:16:04,283 --> 01:16:06,596
- For the vast
majority of Americans,
1891
01:16:06,631 --> 01:16:07,942
they're gonna look
into that and say,
1892
01:16:07,977 --> 01:16:09,565
that's weird stuff.
1893
01:16:09,599 --> 01:16:12,568
Now, maybe Cernovich
over-plays it.
1894
01:16:12,602 --> 01:16:15,709
Maybe he sensationalizes
a little bit.
1895
01:16:15,743 --> 01:16:17,607
But the sentiment of it is,
1896
01:16:17,642 --> 01:16:18,953
these are very creepy people.
1897
01:16:18,988 --> 01:16:20,645
There's an email from
the Wikileaks where
1898
01:16:20,679 --> 01:16:21,956
the Podestas talk about having
1899
01:16:21,991 --> 01:16:23,786
stayed in touch
a Dennis Hastert.
1900
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:25,788
Dennis Hastert was a
long time family friend.
1901
01:16:25,822 --> 01:16:27,652
Dennis Hastert went to prison
1902
01:16:27,686 --> 01:16:29,274
for money laundering offenses
1903
01:16:29,308 --> 01:16:32,967
related to paying off
his pedophile victims.
1904
01:16:33,002 --> 01:16:34,590
People that he had victimized
1905
01:16:34,624 --> 01:16:36,074
when they were young, underage.
1906
01:16:36,108 --> 01:16:37,972
Why are you still friends
with Dennis Hastert?
1907
01:16:38,007 --> 01:16:40,803
He is a pedophile,
he did go to prison.
1908
01:16:40,837 --> 01:16:43,288
The media didn't want
to ask those questions.
1909
01:16:43,322 --> 01:16:45,670
And in a way,
that's probably why,
1910
01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:47,775
Pizzagate probably
got out of control
1911
01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:49,432
because the media actually
refused to ask the questions.
1912
01:16:49,466 --> 01:16:52,504
- The shooting incident
shows how a fake news story
1913
01:16:52,538 --> 01:16:55,300
can lead to a real life
threatening situation.
1914
01:16:55,334 --> 01:16:56,991
Devastating consequences.
1915
01:16:57,026 --> 01:16:58,372
- Real world consequences.
1916
01:16:58,406 --> 01:16:59,925
- I mean, it seemed to me as if
1917
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:01,478
the media had been giving
us marching orders.
1918
01:17:01,513 --> 01:17:02,790
Fake news, they insisted,
1919
01:17:02,825 --> 01:17:05,034
was an imminent threat
to American democracy.
1920
01:17:05,068 --> 01:17:06,380
- A threat to democracy.
1921
01:17:06,414 --> 01:17:08,520
- The dangers to
democracy are obvious.
1922
01:17:08,554 --> 01:17:10,626
- Who invented the
phrase fake news
1923
01:17:10,660 --> 01:17:12,006
in its modern context?
1924
01:17:12,041 --> 01:17:13,663
Who wanted to control
the information
1925
01:17:13,698 --> 01:17:16,114
we were receiving
on the internet and
on the news and why?
1926
01:17:16,148 --> 01:17:18,012
- Fake news is a phrase
1927
01:17:18,047 --> 01:17:20,843
I had never ever ever
heard in my life,
1928
01:17:20,877 --> 01:17:23,293
and I don't think any American
had heard in their lives
1929
01:17:23,328 --> 01:17:26,020
until a month
after the election.
1930
01:17:27,539 --> 01:17:29,368
And if you look, you can go
on Google trends or something,
1931
01:17:29,403 --> 01:17:31,060
and you can type in fake news.
1932
01:17:31,094 --> 01:17:33,545
And you can see a chart
for how many times
1933
01:17:33,579 --> 01:17:35,685
that phrase was mentioned
on the internet.
1934
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,241
But the chart has, you
know, zero mentions ever.
1935
01:17:40,276 --> 01:17:42,036
And then all at once.
1936
01:17:43,106 --> 01:17:44,349
It skyrockets.
1937
01:17:44,383 --> 01:17:46,869
- On September 13th, 2016,
1938
01:17:46,903 --> 01:17:49,734
a nonprofit called First
Draft announced a partnership
1939
01:17:49,768 --> 01:17:53,841
to tackle malicious hoaxes
and fake news reports.
1940
01:17:53,876 --> 01:17:55,187
If you follow the money,
1941
01:17:55,222 --> 01:17:56,602
you often get a lot of
answers to questions.
1942
01:17:56,637 --> 01:17:59,605
So I want to know who
is behind the funding
1943
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,607
for that nonprofit First Draft.
1944
01:18:01,642 --> 01:18:04,024
And its anti-fake news campaign.
1945
01:18:04,058 --> 01:18:07,268
It turns out the funding
came from Google.
1946
01:18:07,303 --> 01:18:08,925
Google's parent company Alphabet
1947
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,066
was headed at the time by
a man name Eric Schmidt,
1948
01:18:12,101 --> 01:18:13,723
who happens to have
devoted himself
1949
01:18:13,758 --> 01:18:15,587
to Hillary Clinton's
election campaign,
1950
01:18:15,621 --> 01:18:18,003
offered himself up as a
strategist to her campaign,
1951
01:18:18,038 --> 01:18:20,281
and is listed as her
number one campaign donor
1952
01:18:20,316 --> 01:18:21,869
through his company, Alphabet.
1953
01:18:21,904 --> 01:18:24,596
So his company funded
this nonprofit First Draft
1954
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:27,047
around the start of
the election cycle.
1955
01:18:27,081 --> 01:18:27,875
- Why is that the case?
1956
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:29,187
'Cause Google is
a search engine.
1957
01:18:29,221 --> 01:18:30,844
It's a tech company.
1958
01:18:30,878 --> 01:18:33,225
What's Google doing palling
around with Hillary Clinton
1959
01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:34,571
and the state department
and the government
1960
01:18:34,606 --> 01:18:36,746
and all these deep state people?
1961
01:18:36,781 --> 01:18:38,886
- Was the whole
anti-fake news campaign
1962
01:18:38,921 --> 01:18:41,440
an attempt to shape our views,
1963
01:18:41,475 --> 01:18:43,891
and limit our access
to certain information
1964
01:18:43,926 --> 01:18:46,963
by labeling selected
website and stories as fake
1965
01:18:46,998 --> 01:18:47,964
and controversial-izing them.
1966
01:18:47,999 --> 01:18:49,586
- And it's totally a sign-up.
1967
01:18:49,621 --> 01:18:50,795
It's totally a sign-up.
1968
01:18:50,829 --> 01:18:52,969
Since the fake news
meme got going,
1969
01:18:53,004 --> 01:18:55,765
Facebook started labeling
certain news stories
1970
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,905
from alternative media
outlets fake news,
1971
01:18:57,940 --> 01:19:00,977
and so you know, if they
can't ban the First Amendment
1972
01:19:02,082 --> 01:19:03,946
straight out right away,
1973
01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:05,982
they go for plan B, which
is discredit anybody
1974
01:19:06,017 --> 01:19:07,294
that isn't themselves,
1975
01:19:07,328 --> 01:19:09,675
and to get them
banned semi-legally
1976
01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:11,056
with stuff like Facebook.
1977
01:19:11,091 --> 01:19:13,645
Which is basically a
monopoly at this point.
1978
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:16,061
There are no real competitors
to Facebook in this country,
1979
01:19:16,096 --> 01:19:17,442
or Twitter, or Google.
1980
01:19:17,476 --> 01:19:21,239
If you get kicked off these
big Silicon Valley platforms,
1981
01:19:21,273 --> 01:19:22,585
you're basically fucked.
1982
01:19:22,619 --> 01:19:24,621
- Facebook and other
social media sites
1983
01:19:24,656 --> 01:19:26,589
are being criticized
for not doing enough
1984
01:19:26,623 --> 01:19:28,073
to stop bogus stories.
1985
01:19:28,108 --> 01:19:30,110
- This week,
social media giants
1986
01:19:30,144 --> 01:19:31,421
Facebook and Google
1987
01:19:31,456 --> 01:19:34,010
said they will go
after hoax websites
1988
01:19:34,045 --> 01:19:36,116
by restricting ad revenue.
1989
01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:40,085
- Almost 100% of our videos
1990
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,019
are demonetized as a punishment
1991
01:19:43,054 --> 01:19:46,091
for what we are
politically doing.
1992
01:19:50,751 --> 01:19:54,341
So simultaneously, the
corporate media demonizes us
1993
01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:56,101
for direct selling products,
1994
01:19:56,136 --> 01:19:57,862
so we can fund our operation,
1995
01:19:57,896 --> 01:20:00,830
while Google had us
banned off Google ads,
1996
01:20:00,865 --> 01:20:04,489
and while they have
demonetized us 95%
1997
01:20:04,523 --> 01:20:06,146
for our political views.
1998
01:20:06,180 --> 01:20:08,700
So they want me to just
go to the gulag, shut up,
1999
01:20:08,734 --> 01:20:11,289
go bankrupt, shut down,
and stop having my speech.
2000
01:20:11,323 --> 01:20:12,566
And I'm not gonna do it.
2001
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,361
- I think the end
game in America
2002
01:20:14,395 --> 01:20:17,191
is European-style
hate speech laws.
2003
01:20:17,226 --> 01:20:19,021
A lot of people in
America don't know this,
2004
01:20:19,055 --> 01:20:22,472
but in Germany and Sweden
and the UK and in France,
2005
01:20:22,507 --> 01:20:25,165
you've had ordinary
people go to prison
2006
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:27,857
for making anti-immigration
or anti-Islam
2007
01:20:27,892 --> 01:20:29,859
posts on Facebook.
2008
01:20:29,894 --> 01:20:32,137
- Sweden should be a
canary in the coal mine
2009
01:20:32,172 --> 01:20:33,967
for the rest of us.
2010
01:20:34,001 --> 01:20:36,038
The police have just warned
us that if we don't leave now
2011
01:20:36,072 --> 01:20:37,246
and take this escort,
2012
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,868
it's gonna get really
bad really fast.
2013
01:20:38,903 --> 01:20:41,008
They said 50 people
could be here in minutes,
2014
01:20:41,043 --> 01:20:42,182
and they recognize us.
2015
01:20:42,216 --> 01:20:43,217
They're masking up.
2016
01:20:43,252 --> 01:20:44,149
We have to leave.
2017
01:20:44,184 --> 01:20:45,702
And when I go to Stockholm,
2018
01:20:45,737 --> 01:20:48,257
and actually get escorted
out by the police,
2019
01:20:48,291 --> 01:20:51,156
the media in Sweden
claimed I wasn't
2020
01:20:51,191 --> 01:20:52,744
escorted out by the police.
2021
01:20:52,778 --> 01:20:56,230
Well, no, I have GoPro
footage as I was walking out.
2022
01:20:56,265 --> 01:20:59,095
I took my Gimble and started
filming the police behind me.
2023
01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:02,236
Yet the mainstream
media, the Swedish media,
2024
01:21:02,271 --> 01:21:03,720
reported the police perspective
2025
01:21:03,755 --> 01:21:05,343
that I was wrong,
that I was lying.
2026
01:21:05,377 --> 01:21:06,723
And then immediately
started attacking me.
2027
01:21:06,758 --> 01:21:07,690
I started getting phone calls.
2028
01:21:07,724 --> 01:21:10,037
My phone would not stop ringing.
2029
01:21:10,072 --> 01:21:11,936
They started sharing my
phone number with each other.
2030
01:21:11,970 --> 01:21:13,385
I kid you not.
2031
01:21:13,420 --> 01:21:15,905
And so I actually went on a
national television program.
2032
01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:17,873
- So welcome to Opinion Live.
2033
01:21:17,907 --> 01:21:19,081
- They had scheduled
me on this program
2034
01:21:19,115 --> 01:21:21,014
before I went to Rinkeby.
2035
01:21:21,048 --> 01:21:22,394
But when I went on,
2036
01:21:22,429 --> 01:21:24,051
they asked me to explain
what happened in Rinkeby.
2037
01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:25,604
They first said that the police
2038
01:21:25,639 --> 01:21:28,228
have disputed my claims
that I was escorted out,
2039
01:21:28,262 --> 01:21:30,195
and asked me to clarify,
2040
01:21:30,230 --> 01:21:34,027
to which I responded
basically how I just did,
2041
01:21:34,061 --> 01:21:36,201
and she responded in Swedish,
2042
01:21:36,236 --> 01:21:38,031
instead of saying what I said,
2043
01:21:38,065 --> 01:21:40,102
she said, "He's
talking about Rinkeby,
2044
01:21:40,136 --> 01:21:42,449
"but the police have
disputed what he is saying,
2045
01:21:42,483 --> 01:21:44,037
"and say that he is lying."
2046
01:21:44,071 --> 01:21:45,935
They didn't even tell
the audience what I said.
2047
01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:50,146
They just said I was a liar.
2048
01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:51,285
I have talked with people
2049
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,115
who have visited
Sweden on vacation,
2050
01:21:53,149 --> 01:21:54,771
and you know what they tell me?
2051
01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:56,670
They tell me it's the
North Korea of the North.
2052
01:21:56,704 --> 01:21:58,983
One of the largest
newspapers, Expressin,
2053
01:21:59,017 --> 01:22:03,435
hacked a comment system
to find anonymous posters.
2054
01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:05,161
They find their
names and addresses.
2055
01:22:05,196 --> 01:22:08,164
They go to the homes
of private individuals,
2056
01:22:08,199 --> 01:22:09,959
film their faces,
and accuse them
2057
01:22:09,994 --> 01:22:12,134
of being white supremacists.
2058
01:22:12,168 --> 01:22:14,274
Sure enough, these
people lose their jobs.
2059
01:22:14,308 --> 01:22:15,344
They lose all their friends.
2060
01:22:15,378 --> 01:22:16,690
People are scared to
interact with them.
2061
01:22:16,724 --> 01:22:19,175
Many people, it's not so
much about being scared
2062
01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:20,107
to interact with them because
2063
01:22:20,142 --> 01:22:21,143
they don't like their opinions.
2064
01:22:21,177 --> 01:22:23,248
It's because they'll
also get blacklisted.
2065
01:22:23,283 --> 01:22:24,594
- They're gonna come after you,
2066
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:26,286
and they're gonna try
and whip up a hate mob
2067
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,701
and get you fired from your job,
2068
01:22:27,735 --> 01:22:29,668
ostracized from your community.
2069
01:22:29,703 --> 01:22:31,256
They're gonna smear you.
2070
01:22:31,291 --> 01:22:32,499
They're gonna call you a
neo-Nazi white supremacist.
2071
01:22:32,533 --> 01:22:34,259
They're gonna call you
a conspiracy theorist.
2072
01:22:34,294 --> 01:22:36,158
They're gonna call
you a Russian agent.
2073
01:22:36,192 --> 01:22:38,850
They're gonna do everything
they can to shut you down.
2074
01:22:44,235 --> 01:22:46,858
- And in the face of this
unprecedented censorship,
2075
01:22:46,892 --> 01:22:48,998
we've only seen support grow.
2076
01:22:49,033 --> 01:22:50,344
That's why they lie
worse than ever.
2077
01:22:50,379 --> 01:22:52,691
That's why they're
so hysterical.
2078
01:22:52,726 --> 01:22:54,210
It's why they're so
angry, so hateful.
2079
01:22:54,245 --> 01:22:56,316
- Then along came Donald Trump.
2080
01:22:56,350 --> 01:22:58,456
The wild card.
2081
01:22:58,490 --> 01:23:00,216
Probably the only
politician that could have
2082
01:23:00,251 --> 01:23:02,149
or would have been able
to change this dynamic
2083
01:23:02,184 --> 01:23:04,462
and kind of turn the
campaign on its head.
2084
01:23:04,496 --> 01:23:07,568
Each time advocates
cried fake news,
2085
01:23:07,603 --> 01:23:10,123
Donald Trump called
them fake news.
2086
01:23:10,157 --> 01:23:11,538
- We were able to turn fake news
2087
01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,195
back on them almost instantly.
2088
01:23:13,229 --> 01:23:14,679
Of course with the help of
2089
01:23:14,713 --> 01:23:17,026
President Doctor
Donald J. Trump, PhD,
2090
01:23:17,061 --> 01:23:18,407
which is what I call him now.
2091
01:23:18,441 --> 01:23:20,305
Because he started calling the
mainstream media fake news.
2092
01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:21,341
- Since
you are attacking
2093
01:23:21,375 --> 01:23:22,652
our news organization.
- No, not you, not you.
2094
01:23:22,687 --> 01:23:23,895
- Can
you give us a chance?
2095
01:23:23,929 --> 01:23:24,827
- Your organization is terrible.
2096
01:23:24,861 --> 01:23:25,828
- You're attacking,
President elect,
2097
01:23:25,862 --> 01:23:27,174
can you give us a question?
- Don't be rude.
2098
01:23:27,209 --> 01:23:28,175
- You're attacking us.
2099
01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:29,383
Can you give us a question?
- Don't be rude.
2100
01:23:29,418 --> 01:23:31,040
- Can you give us a question?
- No I'm not gonna
2101
01:23:31,075 --> 01:23:31,903
give you a question.
2102
01:23:31,937 --> 01:23:32,835
I'm not gonna give
you a question.
2103
01:23:32,869 --> 01:23:33,767
- Can you state categorically--
2104
01:23:33,801 --> 01:23:34,595
- You are fake news.
2105
01:23:34,630 --> 01:23:35,769
The news is fake.
2106
01:23:35,803 --> 01:23:37,046
Fake media, the
failing New York Times.
2107
01:23:37,081 --> 01:23:37,874
Fake news.
2108
01:23:37,909 --> 01:23:39,048
Very fake news.
2109
01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:40,222
They should be
ashamed of themselves.
2110
01:23:41,223 --> 01:23:42,224
Watch how the crowd.
2111
01:23:42,258 --> 01:23:43,363
Donald Trump is--
2112
01:23:43,397 --> 01:23:44,778
- You know I've
been hearing more and more
2113
01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:46,331
about a thing called fake news.
2114
01:23:46,366 --> 01:23:47,953
But I will tell you,
some of the media outlets
2115
01:23:47,988 --> 01:23:50,059
that I deal with are fake news.
2116
01:23:54,408 --> 01:23:55,168
Look at this!
2117
01:23:55,202 --> 01:23:56,238
President Trump--
2118
01:23:56,272 --> 01:23:57,929
- And so as soon as
they introduced the idea
2119
01:23:57,963 --> 01:23:59,620
that news can be fake,
2120
01:23:59,655 --> 01:24:01,415
it was turned against
them almost immediately.
2121
01:24:03,452 --> 01:24:05,040
The ring just imploded!
2122
01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,558
- The official
presidential tweet
2123
01:24:06,593 --> 01:24:08,560
is an old wrestling
video takedown
2124
01:24:08,595 --> 01:24:10,252
with businessman Trump,
2125
01:24:10,286 --> 01:24:12,357
doctored with the CNN logo
2126
01:24:12,392 --> 01:24:14,118
covering the face of his victim.
2127
01:24:15,326 --> 01:24:18,708
- When Trump posted the
CNN of wrestling meme,
2128
01:24:18,743 --> 01:24:20,124
it was absolutely hilarious.
2129
01:24:20,158 --> 01:24:21,263
It was great.
2130
01:24:21,297 --> 01:24:22,574
Memes are funny.
2131
01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:23,782
There's really no
other way to put it.
2132
01:24:23,817 --> 01:24:26,268
Memes are fucking hilarious.
2133
01:24:26,302 --> 01:24:28,373
Anonymous internet memes
are for a lot of people
2134
01:24:28,408 --> 01:24:31,376
the only way to get exposed
to what's the truth.
2135
01:24:31,411 --> 01:24:32,757
And the reason
people are anonymous
2136
01:24:32,791 --> 01:24:33,965
and why it's so
powerful is because
2137
01:24:33,999 --> 01:24:35,208
if you're not anonymous,
2138
01:24:35,242 --> 01:24:37,796
and you don't have fuck
you money basically,
2139
01:24:37,831 --> 01:24:39,246
the media is gonna
come after you,
2140
01:24:39,281 --> 01:24:42,215
like they came after
the guy who posted
2141
01:24:42,249 --> 01:24:44,907
the CNN wrestling meme
that Donald Trump tweeted.
2142
01:24:44,941 --> 01:24:47,461
- Did you just see this
Trump thing, the CNN thing?
2143
01:24:47,496 --> 01:24:49,429
- CNN tracked down the dude
2144
01:24:49,463 --> 01:24:51,327
who posted the Trump
wrestling video.
2145
01:24:51,362 --> 01:24:53,122
- They threatened
to dox this kid.
2146
01:24:53,157 --> 01:24:54,744
- CNN said they wouldn't
publish the guy's name
2147
01:24:54,779 --> 01:24:56,332
'cause he had
already apologized,
2148
01:24:56,367 --> 01:24:58,921
and also because he promised
he wouldn't do it again.
2149
01:24:58,955 --> 01:25:01,337
But then CNN adds,
they reserve the right
2150
01:25:01,372 --> 01:25:02,752
to publish his identity
2151
01:25:02,787 --> 01:25:04,340
should any of that change.
2152
01:25:04,375 --> 01:25:06,101
Apparently the guy
posted some pretty
2153
01:25:06,135 --> 01:25:08,482
bad stuff in the
past, but come on CNN.
2154
01:25:08,517 --> 01:25:10,139
You're starting to creep us out.
2155
01:25:10,174 --> 01:25:11,416
- I don't think
they have a choice,
2156
01:25:11,451 --> 01:25:12,693
except to step it up.
2157
01:25:12,728 --> 01:25:15,627
Because we're really in
an existential battle
2158
01:25:15,662 --> 01:25:16,663
for the meaning of free speech
2159
01:25:16,697 --> 01:25:18,320
and for the meaning of truth.
2160
01:25:18,354 --> 01:25:20,149
- People have gotten
a very very skewed
2161
01:25:20,184 --> 01:25:21,633
line of free speech today.
2162
01:25:21,668 --> 01:25:23,187
The skewed definition.
2163
01:25:23,221 --> 01:25:26,431
They think that free
speech and hate speech
2164
01:25:26,466 --> 01:25:29,020
are two different things.
2165
01:25:29,054 --> 01:25:30,366
Which it's absolutely not.
2166
01:25:30,401 --> 01:25:31,436
Hate speech is free speech.
2167
01:25:31,471 --> 01:25:32,679
It's the ability to
express yourself,
2168
01:25:32,713 --> 01:25:35,060
whether someone finds
it hateful or not.
2169
01:25:35,095 --> 01:25:36,441
- My position is very simple.
2170
01:25:36,476 --> 01:25:38,719
There are just three genders.
2171
01:25:39,824 --> 01:25:41,446
There's man.
2172
01:25:41,481 --> 01:25:42,516
Woman.
2173
01:25:43,552 --> 01:25:44,380
And retarded.
2174
01:25:44,415 --> 01:25:46,037
- You should be allowed to say
2175
01:25:46,071 --> 01:25:48,384
the most offensive things
on Earth in free speech.
2176
01:25:48,419 --> 01:25:49,661
- This young man is retarded.
2177
01:25:49,696 --> 01:25:51,525
America's first first man.
2178
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,182
- One self-proclaimed
internet troll,
2179
01:25:53,217 --> 01:25:57,531
Milo Yiannopolis, tells us
he's unapologetic and proud,
2180
01:25:57,566 --> 01:25:59,499
even after being
banned from Twitter
2181
01:25:59,533 --> 01:26:01,466
for his infamous online taunting
2182
01:26:01,501 --> 01:26:04,089
of "Ghostbusters"
star Leslie Jones.
2183
01:26:04,124 --> 01:26:05,470
- In the Twitter
storm that happened.
2184
01:26:05,505 --> 01:26:07,990
- Sure, I was mean.
- You called her a dude.
2185
01:26:08,024 --> 01:26:09,198
- I said it was a good job
2186
01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:10,475
there was a hot black
dude in the movie.
2187
01:26:10,510 --> 01:26:11,856
She looks like a man.
2188
01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:14,341
I am entitled to say that I
think a celebrity looks weird.
2189
01:26:14,376 --> 01:26:17,724
- I feel like things are
going even more and more
2190
01:26:17,758 --> 01:26:20,002
to each extreme.
2191
01:26:20,036 --> 01:26:21,590
- Join us in protest!
2192
01:26:21,624 --> 01:26:23,385
And shut down Milo Yiannopolis.
2193
01:26:23,419 --> 01:26:25,180
- Milo was touring
the country for a bit,
2194
01:26:25,214 --> 01:26:26,733
and every place he went,
2195
01:26:26,767 --> 01:26:28,493
there was period
blood being thrown.
2196
01:26:28,528 --> 01:26:30,495
There was girls
screaming outside,
2197
01:26:30,530 --> 01:26:32,256
smashing garbage
cans on the ground.
2198
01:26:32,290 --> 01:26:34,223
There were people trying
to punch him on stage.
2199
01:26:34,258 --> 01:26:36,087
And then eventually,
2200
01:26:36,121 --> 01:26:38,641
liberals just took it
to a whole new extreme.
2201
01:26:41,575 --> 01:26:46,131
And that was at Berkeley.
2202
01:26:54,795 --> 01:26:58,143
- I was here this evening
to speak at UC Berkeley.
2203
01:26:58,178 --> 01:27:00,422
I'm just sitting in a
hotel room, stunned,
2204
01:27:00,456 --> 01:27:04,253
that hundreds of people
were throwing rocks,
2205
01:27:04,288 --> 01:27:07,083
throwing goodness
knows what else
2206
01:27:07,118 --> 01:27:08,947
at the building, throwing
fireworks at the police.
2207
01:27:08,982 --> 01:27:11,087
Because they're so
threatened by the idea
2208
01:27:11,122 --> 01:27:12,434
that a conservative
speaker might be
2209
01:27:12,468 --> 01:27:14,090
persuasive and
interesting and funny.
2210
01:27:14,125 --> 01:27:16,334
They just have to shut
it down at all costs.
2211
01:27:17,611 --> 01:27:18,612
- I'm a gay Trump supporter.
2212
01:27:18,647 --> 01:27:20,752
I wanted to go watch
a gay Trump supporter.
2213
01:27:20,787 --> 01:27:23,583
I think Milo is
absolutely hilarious.
2214
01:27:24,791 --> 01:27:26,482
We met up at a coffee shop
across the street from Berkeley,
2215
01:27:26,517 --> 01:27:28,553
and I was just waiting for
my friends to trickle in,
2216
01:27:28,588 --> 01:27:31,660
and it was just all these antifa
people were already there.
2217
01:27:31,694 --> 01:27:34,179
So they're already
kind of flirting
2218
01:27:34,214 --> 01:27:35,733
with the idea of violence.
2219
01:27:35,767 --> 01:27:38,287
- So antifa was a
group that was started
2220
01:27:38,322 --> 01:27:41,601
in the early 1900s in
Germany, obviously,
2221
01:27:41,635 --> 01:27:43,775
as an anti-fascist group,
2222
01:27:43,810 --> 01:27:46,330
but they were the
violent militant wing
2223
01:27:46,364 --> 01:27:48,746
of the Communist
party in Germany.
2224
01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:51,473
And as they continued on,
2225
01:27:51,507 --> 01:27:52,819
they still have
the same message.
2226
01:27:52,853 --> 01:27:56,029
They're communists
that believe in
2227
01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,618
destroying anything
they deem to be fascism
2228
01:27:58,652 --> 01:28:00,792
through any means possible.
2229
01:28:00,827 --> 01:28:02,794
- They're screaming
hey fascists, hey Nazi.
2230
01:28:02,829 --> 01:28:04,589
I forget the particular slogans
2231
01:28:04,624 --> 01:28:06,350
that they're all
chanting in unison.
2232
01:28:08,559 --> 01:28:10,595
The irony of it is
because I was so naive,
2233
01:28:10,630 --> 01:28:11,493
I kind of,
2234
01:28:13,046 --> 01:28:16,187
I kind of thought that I could
connect with these people
2235
01:28:16,221 --> 01:28:17,878
and say look, I don't
support those things either,
2236
01:28:17,913 --> 01:28:18,810
and they would just immediately
2237
01:28:18,845 --> 01:28:20,605
understand and believe me.
2238
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,366
But you know, symbols are more
2239
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,195
powerful than words sometimes.
2240
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:26,024
And you're wearing the
wrong piece of clothing,
2241
01:28:26,059 --> 01:28:27,440
and it's just not gonna do.
2242
01:28:27,474 --> 01:28:28,682
I mean, props to
them for the ones
2243
01:28:28,717 --> 01:28:29,683
who are doing it nonviolently,
2244
01:28:29,718 --> 01:28:31,133
but I think that's a
very rare thing indeed.
2245
01:28:31,167 --> 01:28:32,341
So thank you.
2246
01:28:32,376 --> 01:28:34,309
Are you surprised?
2247
01:28:34,343 --> 01:28:35,655
Ma'am?
2248
01:28:35,689 --> 01:28:37,139
- And then two
minutes after that,
2249
01:28:37,173 --> 01:28:39,072
bare maced again.
2250
01:28:39,106 --> 01:28:40,556
Beat with flag poles.
2251
01:28:40,591 --> 01:28:42,558
My friend got put
in the hospital.
2252
01:28:42,593 --> 01:28:45,009
And that actually
didn't air anywhere.
2253
01:28:50,946 --> 01:28:51,912
- That's wild.
2254
01:28:51,947 --> 01:28:53,328
- Never reported in the media.
2255
01:28:54,363 --> 01:28:56,089
- I have been wanting to
have this conversation
2256
01:28:56,123 --> 01:28:57,090
because this has
been a big issue
2257
01:28:57,124 --> 01:28:58,678
about free speech on campus
2258
01:28:58,712 --> 01:29:00,576
and conservative
voices being heard.
2259
01:29:00,611 --> 01:29:02,095
Mr. Rice, my first
question to you is,
2260
01:29:02,129 --> 01:29:03,476
is the violence that we saw,
2261
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:04,511
this violence we
saw at Berkeley.
2262
01:29:04,546 --> 01:29:06,686
We had it live here
on CNN last night.
2263
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,583
It ultimately, does it,
2264
01:29:07,618 --> 01:29:09,378
it plays right into the hands
2265
01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:11,587
of a right wing,
white supremacist,
2266
01:29:11,622 --> 01:29:13,727
someone like Milo Yiannopolis.
2267
01:29:13,762 --> 01:29:15,660
- Like I told the news
woman over there that like
2268
01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:17,524
specifically it was
their narrative.
2269
01:29:17,559 --> 01:29:18,732
They were a part of this.
2270
01:29:18,767 --> 01:29:20,838
It was their narrative
that was causing
2271
01:29:20,872 --> 01:29:22,115
the violence on the left.
2272
01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:23,427
This is not to remove
personal responsibility
2273
01:29:23,461 --> 01:29:25,705
from the actual people
that do the violence,
2274
01:29:25,739 --> 01:29:28,604
but they pretend
to be objective.
2275
01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:30,226
And that's the part.
2276
01:29:30,261 --> 01:29:32,781
And they implant these
ideas in your head,
2277
01:29:32,815 --> 01:29:34,403
and they'll say things like,
2278
01:29:34,438 --> 01:29:36,750
well some people call these
people white nationalists.
2279
01:29:36,785 --> 01:29:38,580
Do they ask any of
the people there?
2280
01:29:38,614 --> 01:29:40,961
No, because that would
actually be real journalism.
2281
01:29:40,996 --> 01:29:42,549
- The real problem
is this name calling
2282
01:29:42,584 --> 01:29:44,965
because you know, as grateful
as I am to be on the show
2283
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,311
and I like the attention,
2284
01:29:46,346 --> 01:29:47,692
the real people that
I want to hear from
2285
01:29:47,727 --> 01:29:50,281
are the guys who run CNN
2286
01:29:50,315 --> 01:29:52,697
who are legitimizing
ordinary conservatives
2287
01:29:52,732 --> 01:29:55,320
being called white
supremacists, anti-Semites,
2288
01:29:55,355 --> 01:29:56,736
racist, sexist,
when they're not.
2289
01:29:56,770 --> 01:29:59,428
There's an inevitable
obvious consequence.
2290
01:29:59,463 --> 01:30:01,810
- The things that had been
said about Donald Trump
2291
01:30:01,844 --> 01:30:04,399
led to extreme violence.
2292
01:30:05,814 --> 01:30:06,746
- In Donald Trump's America,
2293
01:30:06,780 --> 01:30:08,333
everyone is
speculating as to who
2294
01:30:08,368 --> 01:30:09,714
should be the most afraid.
2295
01:30:09,749 --> 01:30:11,129
Black people, Latinos.
2296
01:30:11,164 --> 01:30:13,338
- We gravel every day
with that it means
2297
01:30:13,373 --> 01:30:15,617
to have a president
stained by racism.
2298
01:30:15,651 --> 01:30:16,583
- You voted Trump!
2299
01:30:16,618 --> 01:30:17,757
You voted Trump!
2300
01:30:17,791 --> 01:30:19,137
- I'm just gonna be honest.
2301
01:30:19,172 --> 01:30:20,829
We think there might be a
Nazi in the White House.
2302
01:30:20,863 --> 01:30:22,762
- He is a bigot, he is a racist,
2303
01:30:22,796 --> 01:30:24,349
he is a misogynist.
2304
01:30:24,384 --> 01:30:26,766
- The president's crude and
arguably racist remarks.
2305
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,492
- The president
has racist views.
2306
01:30:29,872 --> 01:30:31,184
- I'm a Bernie supporter,
but they attacked me.
2307
01:30:31,218 --> 01:30:32,427
- Who did?
2308
01:30:32,461 --> 01:30:33,807
- They did, they thought I
was a Trump support, I wasn't.
2309
01:30:33,842 --> 01:30:36,810
- Tens of millions of
people voted for him
2310
01:30:36,845 --> 01:30:39,848
after he showed his
cards, for years.
2311
01:30:39,882 --> 01:30:42,367
- Are you suggesting
that they're racist?
2312
01:30:42,402 --> 01:30:43,645
- Absolutely, yes.
2313
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:45,267
- That is pure racism.
2314
01:30:45,301 --> 01:30:47,856
And the president
is cynically using
2315
01:30:47,890 --> 01:30:51,825
that racism to
appeal to his base.
2316
01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:53,655
- If everyone is a
white supremacist,
2317
01:30:53,689 --> 01:30:55,795
what does that even
mean anymore, you know?
2318
01:30:55,829 --> 01:30:58,038
Are you just gonna accuse
anyone who disagrees with you?
2319
01:30:58,073 --> 01:31:00,489
I have people who tell me
that I'm a Nazi sympathizer
2320
01:31:00,524 --> 01:31:02,318
for being friends
with Trump supporters,
2321
01:31:02,353 --> 01:31:04,320
or that I'm a racist.
2322
01:31:04,355 --> 01:31:06,184
And I'm actually a
mixed race person.
2323
01:31:06,219 --> 01:31:08,117
It's like nuance has
gone out the window,
2324
01:31:08,152 --> 01:31:09,602
and none of it matters anymore.
2325
01:31:09,636 --> 01:31:10,982
- Say you worked in a loony bin,
2326
01:31:11,017 --> 01:31:12,052
and there was this
one guy going,
2327
01:31:12,087 --> 01:31:13,502
the Khmer Rouge are coming!
2328
01:31:13,537 --> 01:31:14,503
The Khmer Rouge are coming!
2329
01:31:14,538 --> 01:31:16,022
Polpot is upstairs.
2330
01:31:16,056 --> 01:31:17,679
The Khmer Rouge are
gonna invade here.
2331
01:31:17,713 --> 01:31:19,991
We gotta stop the
communists in Cambodia.
2332
01:31:20,026 --> 01:31:22,373
And you go, alright, Mr.
McGuillocuddy, it's okay.
2333
01:31:22,407 --> 01:31:23,788
And you'd lead him to his room.
2334
01:31:23,823 --> 01:31:26,239
And you go, he was bitching
about the Khmer Rouge again.
2335
01:31:26,273 --> 01:31:28,552
That's the way the
media is with Nazis.
2336
01:31:28,586 --> 01:31:30,968
They see Nazis in their
soup, they're everywhere.
2337
01:31:31,002 --> 01:31:32,728
- Now we have Nazi panic,
2338
01:31:32,763 --> 01:31:34,696
where even if you're a
girl, they'll hit you.
2339
01:31:34,730 --> 01:31:36,318
It doesn't really matter.
2340
01:31:36,352 --> 01:31:37,733
That's what the media does.
2341
01:31:37,768 --> 01:31:40,736
There has been far
more violence by antifa
2342
01:31:40,771 --> 01:31:43,187
against people they
don't agree with,
2343
01:31:43,221 --> 01:31:44,740
especially Trump supporters,
2344
01:31:44,775 --> 01:31:46,984
than there has been violence
by Trump supporters.
2345
01:31:47,018 --> 01:31:49,849
But the media covers
up violence by antifa.
2346
01:31:49,883 --> 01:31:52,265
I've reported from the
White House several times,
2347
01:31:52,299 --> 01:31:54,819
and on one visit, after
the White House press
2348
01:31:54,854 --> 01:31:57,650
briefing had concluded,
I looked over at
2349
01:31:57,684 --> 01:31:59,410
the assembled
journalists and I said,
2350
01:31:59,444 --> 01:32:00,825
why will nobody here
cover the violence
2351
01:32:00,860 --> 01:32:02,413
against Trump supporters?
2352
01:32:02,447 --> 01:32:03,828
And why won't you
demand that leaders
2353
01:32:03,863 --> 01:32:06,900
of the democrats disavow
the violence of antifa
2354
01:32:06,935 --> 01:32:08,833
the way you demanded
Trump disavow
2355
01:32:08,868 --> 01:32:11,077
violence from his supporters?
2356
01:32:11,111 --> 01:32:13,182
This has been
completely covered up.
2357
01:32:13,217 --> 01:32:14,114
They laughed at me.
2358
01:32:15,599 --> 01:32:16,910
They thought that I would care,
2359
01:32:16,945 --> 01:32:18,360
but their laughter
actually proved
2360
01:32:18,394 --> 01:32:19,775
what I wanted to prove.
2361
01:32:19,810 --> 01:32:21,570
I wanted them to laugh at me.
2362
01:32:21,605 --> 01:32:22,882
Because then I
could show people,
2363
01:32:22,916 --> 01:32:24,090
hey, this is what the
media is all about.
2364
01:32:24,124 --> 01:32:26,023
They laugh at violence
against people
2365
01:32:26,057 --> 01:32:27,542
if they don't like you.
2366
01:32:27,576 --> 01:32:29,716
- It's also not
surprising that the right,
2367
01:32:29,751 --> 01:32:32,443
in a sense, retaliated,
came back out,
2368
01:32:32,477 --> 01:32:37,482
held more events, to counter
this use of violence by antifa.
2369
01:32:38,656 --> 01:32:40,451
We saw the rise of
the base stick man.
2370
01:32:40,485 --> 01:32:42,971
You know, there's a video
of him cracking a stick
2371
01:32:43,005 --> 01:32:45,801
over this antifa member's head.
2372
01:32:45,836 --> 01:32:47,423
And right then I'm like,
2373
01:32:47,458 --> 01:32:48,701
antifa is going to double down,
2374
01:32:48,735 --> 01:32:49,736
and they're gonna go nuts.
2375
01:32:49,771 --> 01:32:50,737
And that's where we saw antifa
2376
01:32:50,772 --> 01:32:52,877
throwing explosives
into the crowd.
2377
01:32:52,912 --> 01:32:54,776
M80, M80!
2378
01:32:55,777 --> 01:32:57,088
Somebody from the antifa side
2379
01:32:57,123 --> 01:32:58,918
just threw an M80
into the crowd.
2380
01:32:58,952 --> 01:33:00,885
We heard a guy got
stabbed in the chest.
2381
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,300
The bike lock
basher Eric Clampton
2382
01:33:02,335 --> 01:33:04,717
hit seven people over the
head with a bike lock.
2383
01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:07,443
- Mother fucker!
2384
01:33:07,478 --> 01:33:08,721
- If you were asking me,
2385
01:33:08,755 --> 01:33:09,998
I'd say that was an
attempt to murder.
2386
01:33:11,482 --> 01:33:14,796
I guess, you know,
it's sadly predictable.
2387
01:33:14,830 --> 01:33:16,521
That's the scary
thing, you know.
2388
01:33:16,556 --> 01:33:18,316
And it looks like things
are gonna escalate,
2389
01:33:18,351 --> 01:33:19,594
'cause nobody's gonna back down.
2390
01:33:19,628 --> 01:33:21,630
- And this is just
the beginning.
2391
01:33:21,665 --> 01:33:22,942
Just the beginning, dude.
2392
01:33:22,976 --> 01:33:25,910
We're gonna come to
every liberal stronghold,
2393
01:33:25,945 --> 01:33:28,844
every city, fucking
Portland, Detroit.
2394
01:33:28,879 --> 01:33:31,985
All you cock suckers in
fucking Boston, watch out.
2395
01:33:32,020 --> 01:33:32,952
We're coming for you.
2396
01:33:32,986 --> 01:33:35,817
- The area for
rational discussion,
2397
01:33:35,851 --> 01:33:37,853
as that disappears more,
2398
01:33:37,888 --> 01:33:39,855
I think more people are
going to be radicalized
2399
01:33:39,890 --> 01:33:41,546
to both extremes
and think violence
2400
01:33:41,581 --> 01:33:45,378
is an acceptable
way of protesting
2401
01:33:45,412 --> 01:33:48,208
their distaste for
other peoples opinions.
2402
01:34:04,017 --> 01:34:07,469
- Imagine
that your belief systems
2403
01:34:07,503 --> 01:34:09,057
are essentially
maps of the world
2404
01:34:09,091 --> 01:34:11,853
that you use to
orient yourself with.
2405
01:34:12,681 --> 01:34:14,027
News informs you.
2406
01:34:14,062 --> 01:34:16,823
If it's real news,
it updates your map.
2407
01:34:16,858 --> 01:34:19,654
It brings you into
alignment better.
2408
01:34:19,688 --> 01:34:20,689
There should be an alignment
2409
01:34:20,724 --> 01:34:22,380
between you and the world.
2410
01:34:22,415 --> 01:34:24,003
If you're properly informed.
2411
01:34:24,037 --> 01:34:26,005
- Handed
almost unlimited power
2412
01:34:26,039 --> 01:34:28,732
to a fascist wannabe.
2413
01:34:28,766 --> 01:34:31,251
- Arrogant people,
resentful people,
2414
01:34:31,286 --> 01:34:34,599
believe that deception works.
2415
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,191
That's just not the case.
2416
01:34:43,367 --> 01:34:44,886
When you act out a falsehood,
2417
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,370
then something terrible happens.
2418
01:34:46,404 --> 01:34:49,062
That's the definition of
a falsehood fundamentally.
2419
01:34:50,063 --> 01:34:51,789
Falsehoods have consequences.
2420
01:34:52,928 --> 01:34:54,689
That's what makes them false.
2421
01:34:55,793 --> 01:34:57,795
And you can not believe
that, it's fine.
2422
01:34:59,107 --> 01:35:01,626
You can even get away with
it for some period of time.
2423
01:35:03,111 --> 01:35:06,942
But you're not gonna get
away with it for very long.
2424
01:35:11,775 --> 01:35:12,914
- The latest developments
2425
01:35:12,948 --> 01:35:15,571
in the shooting of a Republican
congressman and others
2426
01:35:15,606 --> 01:35:18,022
at a baseball practice
outside of Washington.
2427
01:35:18,057 --> 01:35:20,438
- Congressman Steve
Scalise has been shot.
2428
01:35:20,473 --> 01:35:22,820
- Apparently deliberately
targeting the GOP.
2429
01:35:25,167 --> 01:35:26,962
- There was a shooting by
a Bernie Sanders supporter
2430
01:35:26,997 --> 01:35:28,584
and pro-antifa person
2431
01:35:28,619 --> 01:35:31,035
at a congressional
baseball practice
2432
01:35:31,070 --> 01:35:32,450
called the Scalise shooting now.
2433
01:35:32,485 --> 01:35:34,142
- He cursed President Trump,
2434
01:35:34,176 --> 01:35:36,213
labeled the president a traitor,
2435
01:35:36,247 --> 01:35:39,319
and called for his destruction
in several Facebook posts.
2436
01:35:39,354 --> 01:35:40,631
- And then the mainstream media,
2437
01:35:40,665 --> 01:35:41,597
they acted like
they really cared.
2438
01:35:41,632 --> 01:35:42,909
Oh, they really cared.
2439
01:35:42,944 --> 01:35:44,221
- The shooter died
from his injuries
2440
01:35:44,255 --> 01:35:45,878
after the shootout
with capital police.
2441
01:35:45,912 --> 01:35:49,260
News that we first were told
by President Trump himself
2442
01:35:49,295 --> 01:35:52,125
who had a somber and reflective
2443
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,678
message for the nation.
2444
01:35:53,713 --> 01:35:54,645
- No, the people know.
2445
01:35:54,679 --> 01:35:56,129
The people watch them laughed
2446
01:35:56,164 --> 01:35:58,131
when they were asked
about violence.
2447
01:35:58,166 --> 01:36:00,444
They know that the media
wants more shootings.
2448
01:36:00,478 --> 01:36:02,239
- Obviously everybody is
wishing the congressman well
2449
01:36:02,273 --> 01:36:04,103
and hoping that he recovers.
- Sure, sure.
2450
01:36:04,137 --> 01:36:05,794
- But Steve Scalise
has a history
2451
01:36:05,829 --> 01:36:09,798
that we've all been forced
to sort of ignore on race.
2452
01:36:09,833 --> 01:36:12,249
He did come to leadership
after some controversy
2453
01:36:12,283 --> 01:36:15,114
over attending a white
nationalist event.
2454
01:36:15,148 --> 01:36:16,460
- They want people to get shot,
2455
01:36:16,494 --> 01:36:18,669
because they act as a
propaganda arm for antifa,
2456
01:36:18,703 --> 01:36:20,429
which is a domestic
terrorist group,
2457
01:36:20,464 --> 01:36:22,535
under investigation by the FBI,
2458
01:36:22,569 --> 01:36:24,640
and they laugh at
violence against people
2459
01:36:24,675 --> 01:36:26,125
they don't agree
with politically.
2460
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:27,678
- The New York Times interviewed
2461
01:36:27,712 --> 01:36:29,714
the suspect's brother,
who said the 66 year old
2462
01:36:29,749 --> 01:36:32,441
was upset over the election
of President Trump.
2463
01:36:32,476 --> 01:36:35,651
And went to Washington within
the last few weeks to protest.
2464
01:36:38,585 --> 01:36:41,554
- Our axiomatic systems
orient us in the world
2465
01:36:41,588 --> 01:36:43,832
and regulate our emotions.
2466
01:36:43,867 --> 01:36:45,040
Donald J. Trump is now
2467
01:36:45,075 --> 01:36:46,835
President of the United States.
2468
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:48,354
- No!
2469
01:36:48,388 --> 01:36:52,634
- So when something
axiomatically
impossible happens,
2470
01:36:52,668 --> 01:36:55,568
people are going to
scramble to find reasons
2471
01:36:55,602 --> 01:36:58,157
that don't require retooling
of their world view.
2472
01:36:58,191 --> 01:37:00,849
And it's no wonder
'cause they're avoiding,
2473
01:37:00,884 --> 01:37:02,161
in archetypal terms,
2474
01:37:02,195 --> 01:37:05,026
they're avoiding an involuntary
dissent to the underworld.
2475
01:37:05,060 --> 01:37:06,234
And even to hell.
2476
01:37:07,407 --> 01:37:08,719
That's also why
people fight so hard
2477
01:37:08,753 --> 01:37:10,825
to protect not only
their belief systems,
2478
01:37:10,859 --> 01:37:12,378
but their social systems.
2479
01:37:12,412 --> 01:37:15,415
Often, that means
accusing someone else.
2480
01:37:15,450 --> 01:37:16,623
- Trump is a Nazi!
2481
01:37:17,624 --> 01:37:19,834
Trump is a Nazi!
2482
01:37:19,868 --> 01:37:21,974
- Because then they have
to change in our view.
2483
01:37:22,008 --> 01:37:23,182
- Trump's a racist!
2484
01:37:23,216 --> 01:37:24,908
Trump's a racist!
2485
01:37:24,942 --> 01:37:28,359
- A world view adjustment
is a major revolution,
2486
01:37:28,394 --> 01:37:30,016
and you may not recover from it.
2487
01:37:30,051 --> 01:37:31,673
It just might do you in.
2488
01:37:31,707 --> 01:37:33,502
Or maybe you're
chronically depressed.
2489
01:37:33,537 --> 01:37:35,573
And so when you dig
down and you have to
2490
01:37:35,608 --> 01:37:36,920
restructure those axioms,
2491
01:37:36,954 --> 01:37:39,094
not only do you
have to encounter
2492
01:37:39,129 --> 01:37:42,891
the unknown as such,
which is no joke,
2493
01:37:43,823 --> 01:37:45,756
but you may also
have to discover
2494
01:37:45,790 --> 01:37:47,378
your own malevolence.
2495
01:37:47,413 --> 01:37:50,588
Well, it's no wonder
people turn away from that.
2496
01:37:50,623 --> 01:37:51,589
It's not surprising at all.
2497
01:37:51,624 --> 01:37:53,143
And everyone is like that.
2498
01:37:54,109 --> 01:37:56,284
And this is why I'm
no fan of ideologies,
2499
01:37:56,318 --> 01:37:59,874
generally speaking, because
they place a mask of virtue
2500
01:37:59,908 --> 01:38:03,739
over a dark set of motivations.
2501
01:38:03,774 --> 01:38:05,017
And then you can tolerate
2502
01:38:05,051 --> 01:38:06,673
looking at yourself
in the mirror.
2503
01:38:07,951 --> 01:38:09,573
Well there's plenty of
motivation to falsify,
2504
01:38:09,607 --> 01:38:13,301
but it's a bad idea.
2505
01:38:14,164 --> 01:38:16,131
You live out the falsifications,
2506
01:38:16,166 --> 01:38:19,134
and the world hit you.
2507
01:38:19,963 --> 01:38:21,240
- We begin
with breaking news
2508
01:38:21,274 --> 01:38:22,758
from Charlottesville, Virginia,
2509
01:38:22,793 --> 01:38:24,208
where two people
have been injured
2510
01:38:24,243 --> 01:38:26,176
in an altercation
with protestors
2511
01:38:27,004 --> 01:38:28,247
who were out in force
2512
01:38:28,281 --> 01:38:31,595
over the planned removal
of a Confederate statue.
2513
01:38:31,629 --> 01:38:32,976
Watch this.
2514
01:38:34,287 --> 01:38:37,946
- So my opinion of the
race-baiting that's going on,
2515
01:38:37,981 --> 01:38:41,743
and my opinion of the
portrayal of the social strife
2516
01:38:41,777 --> 01:38:43,987
and the neo-Nazis and et cetera
2517
01:38:44,021 --> 01:38:47,266
is another example
of a business model
2518
01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:50,786
by the mainstream cable
news networks and media
2519
01:38:50,821 --> 01:38:54,790
to try to create an
environment of discontent.
2520
01:38:54,825 --> 01:38:56,275
- What happened over the weekend
2521
01:38:56,309 --> 01:38:58,967
in Charlottesville, Virginia
was just disgusting.
2522
01:39:00,141 --> 01:39:01,521
I was watching the news
like everyone else.
2523
01:39:04,352 --> 01:39:06,112
And you see Nazi
flags and torches
2524
01:39:06,147 --> 01:39:07,527
and white supremacists.
2525
01:39:07,562 --> 01:39:10,668
- Hate no
longer hides behind hoods.
2526
01:39:10,703 --> 01:39:12,360
- I was sick to my stomach.
2527
01:39:12,394 --> 01:39:15,121
- And by the way, I have
nothing but disdain for Nazis.
2528
01:39:15,156 --> 01:39:18,262
- Is this guy wearing
a Hitler shirt?
2529
01:39:18,297 --> 01:39:19,539
Yes he is.
2530
01:39:19,574 --> 01:39:21,162
- I think the whole
Charlottesville thing,
2531
01:39:21,196 --> 01:39:22,887
I don't think, you have
to have a zero tolerance
2532
01:39:22,922 --> 01:39:24,372
policy on Nazis.
2533
01:39:24,406 --> 01:39:26,477
But I think that they're
a very very small
2534
01:39:26,512 --> 01:39:29,101
portion of the population,
2535
01:39:29,135 --> 01:39:32,345
and if this was the
1960s, 70s, or 80s,
2536
01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:34,554
objectively they
wouldn't be worthy enough
2537
01:39:34,589 --> 01:39:37,143
of the news standing that
they're getting right now.
2538
01:39:37,178 --> 01:39:41,458
I think that the media
will gin up controversy,
2539
01:39:41,492 --> 01:39:43,908
take things and blow
them out of proportion
2540
01:39:43,943 --> 01:39:45,151
to gin up ratings.
2541
01:39:45,186 --> 01:39:47,360
It glues people, it's addictive.
2542
01:39:50,225 --> 01:39:51,571
- Of course everyone today
2543
01:39:51,606 --> 01:39:53,228
is talking about
the latest events
2544
01:39:53,263 --> 01:39:56,852
that just unfolded in
Charlottesville, Virginia.
2545
01:39:56,887 --> 01:39:58,820
Today we have a
very special guest
2546
01:39:58,854 --> 01:40:00,201
who was there on the ground.
2547
01:40:00,235 --> 01:40:03,307
- Basically there was all
of the Unite the Right
2548
01:40:03,342 --> 01:40:06,172
type people in the area
that they were sort of
2549
01:40:06,207 --> 01:40:07,691
designated to be in.
2550
01:40:07,725 --> 01:40:10,901
And police mostly had
a hands-off approach.
2551
01:40:10,935 --> 01:40:12,937
They had set up barricades
2552
01:40:12,972 --> 01:40:16,320
between that and then
the outside protestors
2553
01:40:16,355 --> 01:40:17,252
who were basically
supposed to stay
2554
01:40:17,287 --> 01:40:19,358
outside of the park.
2555
01:40:19,392 --> 01:40:21,187
The problem is that of course,
2556
01:40:21,222 --> 01:40:24,397
the ring wingers have to
walk through those protestors
2557
01:40:24,432 --> 01:40:26,399
in order to get into the park.
2558
01:40:26,434 --> 01:40:27,883
And so most of the
violence occurred
2559
01:40:27,918 --> 01:40:29,230
kind of at that peripheral.
2560
01:40:29,264 --> 01:40:31,577
- As we've seen from other
events like in Berkeley,
2561
01:40:31,611 --> 01:40:32,440
where there was police,
2562
01:40:32,474 --> 01:40:34,062
and they left the scene,
2563
01:40:34,097 --> 01:40:37,272
and let these two
sides fight each other.
2564
01:40:37,307 --> 01:40:39,102
- Hey, how come
you guys are hanging back?
2565
01:40:42,105 --> 01:40:44,176
- That would be a good question
for the chief of police.
2566
01:40:44,210 --> 01:40:45,694
- What did you
see on the ground,
2567
01:40:45,729 --> 01:40:46,730
and how do you think the police
2568
01:40:46,764 --> 01:40:48,249
conducted themselves today?
2569
01:40:48,283 --> 01:40:50,423
- Mostly, the police
stayed uninvolved
2570
01:40:50,458 --> 01:40:52,529
for the first couple of hours.
2571
01:40:52,563 --> 01:40:55,083
Eventually, the
barricades that they had
2572
01:40:55,118 --> 01:40:58,224
originally set up were
taken down by the antifa.
2573
01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:02,435
- Virginia Governor
Terry McCauliffe
2574
01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:04,748
declares a state of emergency.
2575
01:41:06,232 --> 01:41:09,201
Then, that terrible moment.
2576
01:41:12,411 --> 01:41:14,378
When the driver
of this gray Dodge
2577
01:41:14,413 --> 01:41:16,449
mows down a group of marchers
2578
01:41:16,484 --> 01:41:18,313
who were protesting the rally.
2579
01:41:18,348 --> 01:41:20,453
19 people were injured.
2580
01:41:20,488 --> 01:41:23,284
32 year old Heather
Heyer was killed.
2581
01:41:23,318 --> 01:41:25,424
Heather's mother
told us her daughter
2582
01:41:25,458 --> 01:41:28,737
was there protesting
white supremacy.
2583
01:41:28,772 --> 01:41:31,809
The driver was caught
by our ABC cameras,
2584
01:41:31,844 --> 01:41:34,191
chanting a message
of white power.
2585
01:41:39,127 --> 01:41:40,301
- And we're back.
2586
01:41:40,335 --> 01:41:42,855
Mike Cernovich,
gorillamindset.com,
2587
01:41:42,889 --> 01:41:44,684
with a dimly lit Periscope,
2588
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:46,445
and I think I need
to fix my hair.
2589
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,862
We now have in America
neo-Nazi terrorists.
2590
01:41:49,896 --> 01:41:51,312
I wish it weren't otherwise,
2591
01:41:51,346 --> 01:41:54,004
but when you're driving a
car into a crowd of people
2592
01:41:54,038 --> 01:41:55,626
after attending
a neo-Nazi event,
2593
01:41:55,661 --> 01:41:58,871
then you have to call
it on both ways, right?
2594
01:41:58,905 --> 01:42:00,424
- In a press conference
this afternoon,
2595
01:42:00,459 --> 01:42:02,702
when asked about the
events in Charlottesville,
2596
01:42:02,737 --> 01:42:04,359
Trump had this to say.
2597
01:42:04,394 --> 01:42:06,879
- I think there's
blame on both sides.
2598
01:42:08,812 --> 01:42:10,503
- Alright, it's just like D-Day.
2599
01:42:10,538 --> 01:42:15,163
Remember, D-Day, two sides,
allies and the Nazis.
2600
01:42:15,198 --> 01:42:18,511
There was a lot of violence
on both sides, okay?
2601
01:42:18,546 --> 01:42:20,444
- But how can you talk about
2602
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,860
the terrorism of the
neo-Nazis on the right,
2603
01:42:23,896 --> 01:42:25,449
but then look the other way
2604
01:42:25,484 --> 01:42:27,141
when the alt-left is
committing terrorism.
2605
01:42:27,175 --> 01:42:30,972
- One is a Nazi white
supremacist group.
2606
01:42:31,006 --> 01:42:32,698
The other is a protest group,
2607
01:42:32,732 --> 01:42:35,804
protesting a political
and a racist movement.
2608
01:42:35,839 --> 01:42:38,324
Maybe their tactics
weren't exactly right.
2609
01:42:38,359 --> 01:42:40,395
- Don Lemon goes,
well, you know,
2610
01:42:40,430 --> 01:42:45,020
the alt-left, antifa, maybe
they have some bad tactics.
2611
01:42:45,055 --> 01:42:46,815
And they're white-washing it.
2612
01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:48,403
- What about the alt-left
2613
01:42:48,438 --> 01:42:51,337
that came charging at, as
you say, the alt-right?
2614
01:42:52,373 --> 01:42:54,927
Do they have any
semblance of guilt?
2615
01:42:54,961 --> 01:42:56,515
- First of all, sir,
2616
01:42:56,549 --> 01:42:58,517
the opposite of alt-right
isn't the alt-left.
2617
01:42:59,587 --> 01:43:02,003
It's the not-Nazis.
2618
01:43:06,214 --> 01:43:07,353
That's just me.
2619
01:43:07,388 --> 01:43:09,907
- I think you got it.
- No I don't know.
2620
01:43:09,942 --> 01:43:11,875
- I think you got it.
- Let's be fair, John.
2621
01:43:11,909 --> 01:43:13,808
- I think you got it.
- You gotta be fair,
John.
2622
01:43:13,842 --> 01:43:15,223
- No that's pretty fair.
2623
01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:21,367
- It's time for the left
to actually take a stand.
2624
01:43:21,402 --> 01:43:26,407
99.999% of the right is
against the neo-Nazis.
2625
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:30,549
99.999% of the left is against
2626
01:43:30,583 --> 01:43:32,413
the alt-left terrorism, but,
2627
01:43:33,241 --> 01:43:35,243
but if you're a liberal,
2628
01:43:35,278 --> 01:43:37,211
if you're a liberal,
2629
01:43:37,245 --> 01:43:38,867
it's time to start
calling this stuff out.
2630
01:43:38,902 --> 01:43:40,110
Thanks for watching.
2631
01:43:40,144 --> 01:43:40,938
Mike Cernovitch.
2632
01:43:40,973 --> 01:43:42,457
I'll be back soon.
2633
01:43:42,492 --> 01:43:43,803
We'll talk more.
2634
01:43:43,838 --> 01:43:45,426
My life is in danger every day
2635
01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:48,601
because the media has falsely
claimed that I'm alt-right,
2636
01:43:48,636 --> 01:43:49,602
when I'm clearly not.
2637
01:43:49,637 --> 01:43:51,466
- Red rover, red rover,
2638
01:43:51,501 --> 01:43:53,261
send Cernovich over.
2639
01:43:53,296 --> 01:43:54,469
- I'm not part of that.
2640
01:43:54,504 --> 01:43:56,091
- You want a red pill.
2641
01:43:56,126 --> 01:43:57,714
How about a leg pill?
2642
01:43:57,748 --> 01:43:59,543
- The alt-right may
have started out
2643
01:43:59,578 --> 01:44:03,478
as something different a
year ago or two years ago.
2644
01:44:03,513 --> 01:44:05,653
It may have been about
just an alternative
2645
01:44:05,687 --> 01:44:07,171
to mainstream republicans,
2646
01:44:07,206 --> 01:44:10,244
but it has clearly
morphed into ultimately
2647
01:44:10,278 --> 01:44:14,386
an anti-Jewish, anti-everybody
hate filled movement.
2648
01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:17,320
So I've said, hey, you guys
have free speech rights.
2649
01:44:17,354 --> 01:44:19,460
I've said the alt-right
has free speech rights
2650
01:44:19,494 --> 01:44:21,496
to go give their talks
and public rallies.
2651
01:44:21,531 --> 01:44:23,257
But I've said if your
movement is based on hate,
2652
01:44:23,291 --> 01:44:25,466
I completely want
nothing to do with it.
2653
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:27,295
And I said if you want
to throw Nazi salutes,
2654
01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:28,607
I don't want anything
to do with you.
2655
01:44:28,641 --> 01:44:29,504
Don't come to my event.
2656
01:44:29,539 --> 01:44:31,265
Stay far far away from me.
2657
01:44:31,299 --> 01:44:33,439
The media, though, they call
me alt-right to this day.
2658
01:44:33,474 --> 01:44:36,580
- For people who
vote for Donald Trump
2659
01:44:36,615 --> 01:44:40,032
to get lumped in with white
supremacists and extremists,
2660
01:44:40,066 --> 01:44:42,862
it's true in a lot of regards
2661
01:44:42,897 --> 01:44:45,209
'cause you have the KKK,
2662
01:44:45,244 --> 01:44:50,249
who are marching the morning
after Trump won the election.
2663
01:44:51,492 --> 01:44:52,355
You have alt-right
groups and groups
2664
01:44:52,389 --> 01:44:53,977
that call themselves hate groups
2665
01:44:54,011 --> 01:44:56,290
that are holding up Trump
signs at their rallies.
2666
01:44:56,324 --> 01:44:58,602
There were Trump signs in
Charlottesville, right?
2667
01:44:58,637 --> 01:45:01,053
Living in America
as a black man,
2668
01:45:01,087 --> 01:45:03,331
I'm constantly traumatized.
2669
01:45:03,366 --> 01:45:05,816
I'm traumatized by the
statistics that I see,
2670
01:45:05,851 --> 01:45:08,060
I'm traumatized by what
I watch on the news
2671
01:45:08,094 --> 01:45:09,717
when black people
are choked to death,
2672
01:45:09,751 --> 01:45:12,547
I'm traumatized by what
I see on social media.
2673
01:45:12,582 --> 01:45:14,687
Black men being show in
front of their families
2674
01:45:14,722 --> 01:45:16,620
by the police and
nothing happening.
2675
01:45:16,655 --> 01:45:19,554
Black men with full
carry weapons permits.
2676
01:45:19,589 --> 01:45:20,659
I'm traumatized.
2677
01:45:20,693 --> 01:45:22,488
Where's the help for my trauma?
2678
01:45:22,523 --> 01:45:25,249
Who's addressing my
needs psychologically?
2679
01:45:25,284 --> 01:45:26,906
These are things
we don't look at.
2680
01:45:43,923 --> 01:45:46,098
- I'm a freedom fighter,
I'm a revolutionary,
2681
01:45:46,132 --> 01:45:48,687
I'm a Christian, I'm
a proud American.
2682
01:45:48,721 --> 01:45:51,828
Although people
won't admit to it,
2683
01:45:51,862 --> 01:45:54,520
America is a very racist place.
2684
01:45:55,763 --> 01:45:57,558
It was founded on
racial practices.
2685
01:45:57,592 --> 01:46:00,008
And these practices
still exist today.
2686
01:46:00,043 --> 01:46:01,700
Maybe to the extent today,
2687
01:46:01,734 --> 01:46:03,667
not to the extent
today where before,
2688
01:46:03,702 --> 01:46:06,221
but these racist
practices still exist.
2689
01:46:06,256 --> 01:46:07,499
And if you are a Christian,
2690
01:46:07,533 --> 01:46:08,914
if you are American,
2691
01:46:08,948 --> 01:46:12,331
you could look at the facts
and say, yes, this is true.
2692
01:46:14,954 --> 01:46:16,197
- Black lives matter.
2693
01:46:16,231 --> 01:46:17,785
Black lives matter.
2694
01:46:17,819 --> 01:46:19,303
- That's the mantra
2695
01:46:19,338 --> 01:46:21,685
and the message of protests
around the country.
2696
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,722
- Saying only
black lives matter,
2697
01:46:23,756 --> 01:46:24,792
then we do not have to say it.
2698
01:46:24,826 --> 01:46:26,103
- Black
lives matter is mean.
2699
01:46:26,138 --> 01:46:28,382
- A black person gets
killed by the police
2700
01:46:29,555 --> 01:46:31,937
under questionable
circumstances.
2701
01:46:31,971 --> 01:46:34,733
Black people rally.
2702
01:46:34,767 --> 01:46:36,390
The cop goes to court,
2703
01:46:36,424 --> 01:46:38,253
and no matter how questionable,
2704
01:46:38,288 --> 01:46:41,360
it always seems as though
the cop walks away.
2705
01:46:42,913 --> 01:46:44,570
Does this always happen?
2706
01:46:44,605 --> 01:46:46,572
No, sometimes the
cops get convicted,
2707
01:46:46,607 --> 01:46:49,541
but it just seems to
be a reoccurring theme.
2708
01:46:49,575 --> 01:46:51,163
- There's an aspect
of Black Lives Matter
2709
01:46:51,197 --> 01:46:54,580
which is well-needed,
very well-needed,
2710
01:46:54,615 --> 01:46:57,583
and that is police misconduct,
2711
01:46:57,618 --> 01:46:59,413
militarization of police force.
2712
01:46:59,447 --> 01:47:01,656
- The average person, what
do they know about us?
2713
01:47:02,933 --> 01:47:05,246
They know what the
media tells them.
2714
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,593
They say BLM is anti-cop.
2715
01:47:07,628 --> 01:47:10,009
- Boy do we have
an atrocious case
2716
01:47:10,044 --> 01:47:12,667
of the media twisting things
2717
01:47:12,702 --> 01:47:14,738
in order to lead people
in the wrong direction.
2718
01:47:14,773 --> 01:47:17,672
It happens to be a Fox
affiliate in Baltimore.
2719
01:47:17,707 --> 01:47:19,743
- At this
rally in Washington, DC,
2720
01:47:19,778 --> 01:47:23,022
participants chanted, "We
won't stop, we can't stop,
2721
01:47:23,057 --> 01:47:24,817
"so kill a cop."
2722
01:47:24,852 --> 01:47:26,025
- We won't stop!
2723
01:47:26,060 --> 01:47:26,819
- We won't stop!
2724
01:47:26,854 --> 01:47:27,682
- We can't stop!
2725
01:47:27,717 --> 01:47:28,821
- We can't stop!
2726
01:47:28,856 --> 01:47:29,650
- So kill a cop!
2727
01:47:29,684 --> 01:47:30,996
- So kill a cop!
2728
01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:32,929
- And that is not at
all what they said.
2729
01:47:32,963 --> 01:47:34,620
So the actual chant was,
2730
01:47:34,655 --> 01:47:37,381
we can't stop, we won't stop,
2731
01:47:37,416 --> 01:47:40,143
'til killer cops
are in cell blocks.
2732
01:47:40,177 --> 01:47:40,937
- We won't stop.
2733
01:47:40,971 --> 01:47:41,696
- We won't stop!
2734
01:47:41,731 --> 01:47:42,628
- We can't stop!
2735
01:47:42,663 --> 01:47:43,698
- We can't stop!
2736
01:47:43,733 --> 01:47:44,768
- 'Til killer cops.
2737
01:47:44,803 --> 01:47:45,666
- 'Til killer cops.
2738
01:47:45,700 --> 01:47:46,598
- Are in cell blocks.
2739
01:47:46,632 --> 01:47:47,771
- Are in cell blocks.
2740
01:47:47,806 --> 01:47:49,014
- I'm not anti-cop.
2741
01:47:49,048 --> 01:47:50,360
There are members
of my group who are.
2742
01:47:50,394 --> 01:47:52,880
Because I know,
2743
01:47:54,398 --> 01:47:59,024
I know cops who are, as
people, decent human beings.
2744
01:47:59,058 --> 01:48:02,648
- Black Lives Matter has
been subject to fake news
2745
01:48:02,683 --> 01:48:04,719
in the sense that
the media does want
2746
01:48:04,754 --> 01:48:06,687
to sensationalize
what is happening.
2747
01:48:06,721 --> 01:48:10,829
So if there's a
big major protest,
2748
01:48:10,863 --> 01:48:13,797
then the media isn't
gonna cover that.
2749
01:48:13,832 --> 01:48:15,730
They want to cover the 20 people
2750
01:48:15,765 --> 01:48:17,007
lighting cars on fires,
2751
01:48:17,042 --> 01:48:18,664
flipping things over,
2752
01:48:18,699 --> 01:48:20,735
committing violence
and other things.
2753
01:48:23,566 --> 01:48:25,844
- There's a difference
between a protest and a riot.
2754
01:48:25,878 --> 01:48:27,535
- Burn that motherfucker down.
2755
01:48:31,021 --> 01:48:33,265
- Burn this motherfucker down!
2756
01:48:33,299 --> 01:48:34,197
Burn this bitch down!
2757
01:48:34,231 --> 01:48:35,785
- So in that regard,
2758
01:48:36,958 --> 01:48:39,996
a lot of people associate
Black Lives Matter
2759
01:48:40,030 --> 01:48:42,446
being discredited,
but on the other hand,
2760
01:48:42,481 --> 01:48:44,759
there was a journalist, a
Korean-American journalist,
2761
01:48:44,794 --> 01:48:47,659
Tim Pool, who went
to cover the protest,
2762
01:48:47,693 --> 01:48:48,694
which then turned
out to be riots,
2763
01:48:48,729 --> 01:48:50,213
in I believe Milwaukee.
2764
01:48:50,247 --> 01:48:51,525
- One of the first
things we hear
2765
01:48:51,559 --> 01:48:52,836
is the crowd getting
angry and saying,
2766
01:48:52,871 --> 01:48:54,528
"What are these white
people doing here?
2767
01:48:54,562 --> 01:48:55,390
"Fuck white people.
2768
01:48:55,425 --> 01:48:56,668
"White people suck."
2769
01:48:56,702 --> 01:48:58,739
And it culminated with
an 18 year old white kid
2770
01:48:58,773 --> 01:49:00,395
being shot in the
neck yesterday.
2771
01:49:00,430 --> 01:49:01,880
- That's a problem and
that's a conversation
2772
01:49:01,914 --> 01:49:03,571
that needs to be had.
2773
01:49:03,606 --> 01:49:05,021
- For those that are
perceivable-y white,
2774
01:49:05,055 --> 01:49:08,369
it is just not safe to be here.
2775
01:49:08,403 --> 01:49:10,716
And that's why I'm
deciding to leave.
2776
01:49:10,751 --> 01:49:13,374
- They interviewed a girl there
2777
01:49:13,408 --> 01:49:14,858
who was yelling
about how they need
2778
01:49:14,893 --> 01:49:16,895
to stop the violence
in Milwaukee.
2779
01:49:16,929 --> 01:49:18,897
- Thy kingdom come.
2780
01:49:18,931 --> 01:49:20,277
Thy will be done.
2781
01:49:20,312 --> 01:49:22,038
- With his
sister calling for peace.
2782
01:49:22,072 --> 01:49:23,142
- Helped bring the violence here
2783
01:49:23,177 --> 01:49:24,592
and the ignorance here.
2784
01:49:24,627 --> 01:49:25,938
- But the other
half of that clip
2785
01:49:25,973 --> 01:49:26,939
was her screaming
they need to bring
2786
01:49:26,974 --> 01:49:29,390
the violence to
white neighborhoods.
2787
01:49:29,424 --> 01:49:32,427
- Y'all burning down shit
we need in our community.
2788
01:49:32,462 --> 01:49:34,498
Take that shit to the suburbs.
2789
01:49:34,533 --> 01:49:35,638
Burn that shit down.
2790
01:49:35,672 --> 01:49:37,501
- That is fake news right there,
2791
01:49:37,536 --> 01:49:39,883
and it's happening every
day on your TV screen,
2792
01:49:39,918 --> 01:49:41,747
but it's hard to
point out because
2793
01:49:41,782 --> 01:49:43,887
there are bits of
truth within it.
2794
01:49:43,922 --> 01:49:44,785
- I ask people, I go,
2795
01:49:44,819 --> 01:49:47,166
can you name a high profile,
2796
01:49:47,201 --> 01:49:49,928
a black person who had
been shot by police?
2797
01:49:49,962 --> 01:49:52,344
And people can, they can
name a few people, right?
2798
01:49:55,174 --> 01:49:57,901
And then I say, can you
think of a white person
2799
01:49:57,936 --> 01:49:59,385
who was shot by police?
2800
01:50:00,386 --> 01:50:01,802
No.
2801
01:50:01,836 --> 01:50:02,768
I go, well did you know that
2802
01:50:02,803 --> 01:50:04,943
twice as many white people
2803
01:50:04,977 --> 01:50:07,014
as black people are shot
by police every year.
2804
01:50:07,048 --> 01:50:08,429
And they go, well yeah,
2805
01:50:08,463 --> 01:50:09,637
but white people are a
majority of the population.
2806
01:50:09,672 --> 01:50:11,743
It's like, I get the statistics.
2807
01:50:11,777 --> 01:50:13,607
But if twice as
many white people
2808
01:50:13,641 --> 01:50:14,815
are shot as black people,
2809
01:50:16,402 --> 01:50:19,267
and you can't name a single
white person shot by police,
2810
01:50:19,302 --> 01:50:21,787
what does that say about
the media's coverage, right?
2811
01:50:21,822 --> 01:50:23,478
- The first thing
you hear when a cop
2812
01:50:23,513 --> 01:50:26,930
kills someone of color is
their criminal history,
2813
01:50:26,965 --> 01:50:28,173
if they're an alcoholic,
2814
01:50:28,207 --> 01:50:29,933
they were a woman-beater,
2815
01:50:29,968 --> 01:50:31,866
they were, who knows?
2816
01:50:31,901 --> 01:50:35,352
When a black person is
killed, they're villain-ized.
2817
01:50:35,387 --> 01:50:38,942
And when a white
person is killed,
2818
01:50:38,977 --> 01:50:40,841
they are victimized.
2819
01:50:40,875 --> 01:50:42,463
Villain-ized, victimized.
2820
01:50:42,497 --> 01:50:43,809
And that's no one
else but the media.
2821
01:51:08,869 --> 01:51:10,008
- I've never heard about that.
2822
01:51:10,042 --> 01:51:12,666
- Shit is crazy.
2823
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:13,874
This is crazy.
2824
01:51:15,703 --> 01:51:18,982
I don't understand why
I haven't heard of this.
2825
01:51:19,017 --> 01:51:20,743
Like, that's unbelievable.
2826
01:51:20,777 --> 01:51:22,814
This is what's funny
about the media.
2827
01:51:22,848 --> 01:51:25,575
All the victims in
Nashville were white,
2828
01:51:26,714 --> 01:51:29,441
but it is not clear
whether Samson
2829
01:51:29,475 --> 01:51:32,099
specifically targeted
them based on their race.
2830
01:51:32,133 --> 01:51:34,895
That's bullshit, right?
2831
01:51:34,929 --> 01:51:35,930
It's bullshit.
2832
01:51:35,965 --> 01:51:38,933
And this is me talking
about a black person
2833
01:51:38,968 --> 01:51:42,005
who killed white
people at church.
2834
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,249
I don't understand why I
never heard that story.
2835
01:51:44,283 --> 01:51:46,354
And what's more amazing to me is
2836
01:51:46,389 --> 01:51:48,909
I have over three, I don't know,
2837
01:51:48,943 --> 01:51:50,773
three or 4000
friends on Facebook.
2838
01:51:50,807 --> 01:51:53,603
I've never seen that
story published.
2839
01:51:54,742 --> 01:51:56,226
It's interesting to me.
2840
01:51:56,261 --> 01:51:57,780
- Now in my view,
2841
01:51:57,814 --> 01:51:59,402
the media doesn't
want to give attention
2842
01:51:59,436 --> 01:52:00,886
to white people who are shot,
2843
01:52:00,921 --> 01:52:02,854
because then white
people might say, oh,
2844
01:52:02,888 --> 01:52:04,200
it could happen to me too.
2845
01:52:04,234 --> 01:52:06,305
Maybe I ought to talk to these
Black Lives Matter people.
2846
01:52:06,340 --> 01:52:08,583
Maybe we can find common cause.
2847
01:52:08,618 --> 01:52:10,033
The media does not
care about black lives.
2848
01:52:10,068 --> 01:52:11,483
They don't care
about white lives.
2849
01:52:11,517 --> 01:52:13,243
They care about the show.
2850
01:52:13,278 --> 01:52:15,314
And a Black Lives Matter leader,
2851
01:52:15,349 --> 01:52:17,903
who was reasonable and nuanced,
2852
01:52:17,938 --> 01:52:21,286
and wanted to talk both about
rights and responsibilities,
2853
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,978
would resonate with the people.
2854
01:52:24,013 --> 01:52:26,636
And that would be very
frustrating for the media.
2855
01:52:26,670 --> 01:52:28,224
They don't want
people to resonate.
2856
01:52:30,157 --> 01:52:32,228
- The way this
rally is different,
2857
01:52:32,262 --> 01:52:35,127
this is one where
it's family-oriented.
2858
01:52:35,162 --> 01:52:37,129
The message is positive.
2859
01:52:37,164 --> 01:52:38,475
We're here to relax.
2860
01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:39,994
We're here to have a good time.
2861
01:52:40,029 --> 01:52:44,930
- Washington DC, we're standing
to the right of the stage
2862
01:52:45,793 --> 01:52:47,519
at the mother of all rallies.
2863
01:52:47,553 --> 01:52:50,280
And we had just stepped up,
2864
01:52:50,315 --> 01:52:53,283
and people just started
booing us, heckling us.
2865
01:52:53,318 --> 01:52:56,079
We stood there defiantly
with our fists in the air.
2866
01:52:56,114 --> 01:52:57,978
Chanting, "Black lives matter."
2867
01:52:58,012 --> 01:53:01,015
So they're chanting
back, "All lives matter."
2868
01:53:01,050 --> 01:53:02,603
They're making comments.
2869
01:53:02,637 --> 01:53:05,088
And you know, we saw
a few people who were
2870
01:53:05,123 --> 01:53:08,160
in Charlottesville, and who
we had butted heads with
2871
01:53:08,195 --> 01:53:10,335
a few weeks prior.
2872
01:53:10,369 --> 01:53:13,441
And out of nowhere,
one of the guys said--
2873
01:53:13,476 --> 01:53:14,857
- So what we are gonna do
2874
01:53:14,891 --> 01:53:17,100
is something you're not used to,
2875
01:53:17,135 --> 01:53:19,620
and we're gonna give you
two minutes of our platform
2876
01:53:19,654 --> 01:53:21,035
to put your message out.
2877
01:53:21,070 --> 01:53:23,037
- When I got on the stage,
2878
01:53:24,176 --> 01:53:26,523
my mind state changed.
2879
01:53:26,558 --> 01:53:29,147
It wasn't fear, it was God.
2880
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:34,152
And something said
tell them who you are.
2881
01:53:35,222 --> 01:53:37,534
I am an American.
2882
01:53:41,090 --> 01:53:44,507
Secondly, I am a Christian.
2883
01:53:46,785 --> 01:53:50,202
The reason why we fight is
to draw attention to issues
2884
01:53:50,237 --> 01:53:51,514
and to fix it.
2885
01:53:51,548 --> 01:53:54,655
We are not anti-cop.
2886
01:53:54,689 --> 01:53:58,417
We are anti-bad cop.
2887
01:54:00,178 --> 01:54:01,904
We don't want handouts.
2888
01:54:01,938 --> 01:54:04,354
We don't want
anything that's yours.
2889
01:54:04,389 --> 01:54:08,427
We want our God-given
right to freedom,
2890
01:54:08,462 --> 01:54:11,914
liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness.
2891
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,885
- USA, USA, USA, USA.
2892
01:54:20,474 --> 01:54:24,616
- I think we really made
some substantial steps
2893
01:54:24,650 --> 01:54:27,170
without either side
yielding anything.
2894
01:54:27,205 --> 01:54:29,241
Here I went from
being their enemy
2895
01:54:29,276 --> 01:54:31,450
to someone they want to take
pictures with their children.
2896
01:54:31,485 --> 01:54:33,521
That's the power
of communication.
2897
01:54:33,556 --> 01:54:37,077
Why doesn't the media
tell us this story?
2898
01:54:37,111 --> 01:54:38,078
Why?
2899
01:54:38,112 --> 01:54:42,220
Because people like you
and I will sit down,
2900
01:54:42,254 --> 01:54:43,877
and say, let's figure this out.
2901
01:54:43,911 --> 01:54:46,638
And guess what, it
disrupts the establishment.
2902
01:54:46,672 --> 01:54:48,226
- No no no, the
media's never gonna
2903
01:54:48,260 --> 01:54:49,883
give that guy a platform.
2904
01:54:49,917 --> 01:54:52,609
They want to give a
platform to people
2905
01:54:52,644 --> 01:54:54,577
that look monstrous,
2906
01:54:54,611 --> 01:54:56,613
because then you keep
everybody divided.
2907
01:54:56,648 --> 01:54:58,029
You keep everybody paranoid.
2908
01:54:58,063 --> 01:54:59,444
You keep everybody hysterical.
2909
01:55:00,963 --> 01:55:04,483
- That is the problem right
now with America is the bubble.
2910
01:55:04,518 --> 01:55:06,382
You click away and you unfollow.
2911
01:55:06,416 --> 01:55:07,935
You separate
yourself from people
2912
01:55:07,970 --> 01:55:09,281
with contradicting views,
2913
01:55:09,316 --> 01:55:12,112
and then you end up with
this sort of snowball
2914
01:55:12,146 --> 01:55:13,803
of your own narrative.
2915
01:55:13,837 --> 01:55:16,150
- Your narrative should
be something like,
2916
01:55:16,185 --> 01:55:18,842
I'm constantly trying
to go beyond the truth
2917
01:55:18,877 --> 01:55:20,189
that I already hold.
2918
01:55:21,500 --> 01:55:24,158
Because the truth that you
already hold is not enough.
2919
01:55:24,193 --> 01:55:26,574
You need to know
more than you know.
2920
01:55:26,609 --> 01:55:29,301
- If you think about
what the news is,
2921
01:55:29,336 --> 01:55:32,960
what you see in a
newspaper or on TV,
2922
01:55:32,995 --> 01:55:35,100
it's a small fraction
of reality, right?
2923
01:55:35,135 --> 01:55:37,792
There's all the things
that have happened.
2924
01:55:37,827 --> 01:55:40,416
There's all the things
that they know about.
2925
01:55:40,450 --> 01:55:43,591
There's all the things that
they decided to write about.
2926
01:55:43,626 --> 01:55:46,353
There's the things that
they decided to write about
2927
01:55:46,387 --> 01:55:47,975
that you saw.
2928
01:55:48,010 --> 01:55:49,321
And it goes down and down,
2929
01:55:49,356 --> 01:55:51,151
until you're at that
individual article.
2930
01:55:51,185 --> 01:55:54,292
And so you think that when
you're reading the news,
2931
01:55:54,326 --> 01:55:56,087
that you're being informed.
2932
01:55:56,121 --> 01:55:57,364
That you're educating yourself.
2933
01:55:57,398 --> 01:55:59,331
That you're seeing
how the world is.
2934
01:55:59,366 --> 01:56:01,506
But you're seeing such a
tiny fraction of the world,
2935
01:56:01,540 --> 01:56:04,164
and so you could
argue that in a way,
2936
01:56:04,198 --> 01:56:06,890
the media is designed
not to inform you,
2937
01:56:06,925 --> 01:56:09,169
but to keep you uninformed.
2938
01:56:09,203 --> 01:56:12,275
And that's really
scary that the bubble
2939
01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:14,001
that we all live in,
2940
01:56:14,036 --> 01:56:17,315
that has no real higher
obligation anymore
2941
01:56:17,349 --> 01:56:20,732
to this sort of
philosophical idea of truth
2942
01:56:20,766 --> 01:56:22,182
is a scary thing.
2943
01:56:23,769 --> 01:56:25,702
We can't even agree
on reality anymore.
2944
01:56:37,956 --> 01:56:40,338
- It's always a
question to some degree.
2945
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:43,789
Which of our partial
realities is true,
2946
01:56:45,032 --> 01:56:46,206
and which of them is false?
2947
01:56:47,931 --> 01:56:51,763
There's a world that exists
beyond our comprehension of it,
2948
01:56:51,797 --> 01:56:53,765
and so you have to
lay a structure on it
2949
01:56:53,799 --> 01:56:55,042
in order to simplify it.
2950
01:56:56,285 --> 01:56:58,735
The role of a
journalist is to lay out
2951
01:56:58,770 --> 01:57:02,049
an unbiased simplification
of the situation,
2952
01:57:02,912 --> 01:57:05,397
and to let the viewers, readers,
2953
01:57:05,432 --> 01:57:06,640
make up their own minds.
2954
01:57:08,228 --> 01:57:11,921
But, if you introduce an act
of deception into the world,
2955
01:57:11,955 --> 01:57:15,062
it stays and it
manifests itself.
2956
01:57:15,097 --> 01:57:19,032
When you do that, you corrupt
the structure of the world,
2957
01:57:19,066 --> 01:57:20,688
and you corrupt your own soul.
2958
01:57:20,723 --> 01:57:22,035
And God help you.
2959
01:57:23,139 --> 01:57:24,761
It's not good.
2960
01:57:24,796 --> 01:57:26,384
It's seriously not good.
2961
01:57:26,418 --> 01:57:28,075
And we know this.
2962
01:57:28,110 --> 01:57:30,802
If you read who I would regard
2963
01:57:30,836 --> 01:57:33,080
as the most profound analysts
2964
01:57:33,115 --> 01:57:36,118
of the totalitarian societies
of the 20th Century,
2965
01:57:36,152 --> 01:57:38,430
they come to the
same conclusion,
2966
01:57:38,465 --> 01:57:41,709
which is that the
totalitarian states
2967
01:57:41,744 --> 01:57:43,228
would not have been
possible without
2968
01:57:43,263 --> 01:57:45,058
the moral corruption
of the individuals
2969
01:57:45,092 --> 01:57:46,300
within that society.
2970
01:57:47,474 --> 01:57:48,440
And if you think that through,
2971
01:57:48,475 --> 01:57:51,167
then it should make you
quake in your boots.
2972
01:57:52,927 --> 01:57:55,413
We have to restructure
our value systems,
2973
01:57:55,447 --> 01:57:57,932
and so that means going
back into the past.
2974
01:57:57,967 --> 01:58:00,142
- If ye continue in my word,
2975
01:58:00,176 --> 01:58:03,973
then are ye my disciples indeed.
2976
01:58:04,007 --> 01:58:05,975
And ye shall know the truth,
2977
01:58:06,009 --> 01:58:08,978
and the truth shall
make you free.
2978
01:58:10,152 --> 01:58:11,256
Amen.
2979
01:58:11,291 --> 01:58:13,016
- There is no search for truth.
2980
01:58:14,156 --> 01:58:15,674
The government writes
the text books,
2981
01:58:15,709 --> 01:58:18,125
and the children are
taught to accept communism
2982
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,472
and their fate without question.
2983
01:58:20,507 --> 01:58:25,512
- We're at a point
where Judaeo-Christian
ethics can't die,
2984
01:58:27,203 --> 01:58:28,515
because if it does,
2985
01:58:29,378 --> 01:58:31,518
then our civilization is done.
2986
01:58:33,071 --> 01:58:37,317
Because it's foundation
blocks are of that ethic.
2987
01:58:38,835 --> 01:58:40,630
In the story of Genesis,
right at the beginning,
2988
01:58:40,665 --> 01:58:44,600
is the idea that the
essential creative element
2989
01:58:44,634 --> 01:58:48,466
of divinity is the logos,
the word, the truth.
2990
01:58:50,053 --> 01:58:51,883
And that consciousness
calls a world
2991
01:58:51,917 --> 01:58:54,057
into being through language.
2992
01:58:54,092 --> 01:58:58,441
That's the image of God in
man, as far as I can tell.
2993
01:58:58,476 --> 01:59:01,341
And so the words you choose
2994
01:59:02,549 --> 01:59:05,379
determine the
structure of the world
2995
01:59:05,414 --> 01:59:06,587
that you bring into being.
2996
01:59:08,865 --> 01:59:11,040
So we better get
our acts together.
2997
01:59:11,074 --> 01:59:12,352
- We need truth.
2998
01:59:13,318 --> 01:59:14,871
We need truth in media.
2999
01:59:14,906 --> 01:59:19,807
We need to open up our eyes.
3000
01:59:19,842 --> 01:59:21,878
- The fundamental question
people are gonna have,
3001
01:59:21,913 --> 01:59:23,673
which I have, is how
do you know what's true
3002
01:59:23,708 --> 01:59:25,192
or what's not true?
3003
01:59:25,227 --> 01:59:29,196
- I wonder sometimes
if there is a truth
3004
01:59:29,231 --> 01:59:31,060
that is accessible to us.
3005
01:59:35,237 --> 01:59:37,618
Like I don't know if we
can ever know what's truth.
3006
01:59:44,522 --> 01:59:46,213
- Plato's allegory of the cave
3007
01:59:46,248 --> 01:59:48,491
is one of philosophy's
oldest stories,
3008
01:59:48,526 --> 01:59:49,527
and one of its best.
3009
01:59:50,735 --> 01:59:52,737
In the story, there are
people who have lived
3010
01:59:52,771 --> 01:59:56,258
their whole lives
chained in a cave.
3011
01:59:56,292 --> 01:59:58,950
And they're forced
to look at the wall.
3012
01:59:58,984 --> 02:00:01,504
Now behind them is a fire.
3013
02:00:01,539 --> 02:00:03,920
And in front of the
fire are various shapes.
3014
02:00:03,955 --> 02:00:06,544
People, animals, trees.
3015
02:00:06,578 --> 02:00:09,512
And they see against
the flickering
3016
02:00:09,547 --> 02:00:11,411
firelight of the cave
wall these shapes,
3017
02:00:11,445 --> 02:00:14,448
and they think that
they're looking at reality.
3018
02:00:15,898 --> 02:00:19,453
But one day, one of the
men breaks his chains,
3019
02:00:20,661 --> 02:00:22,249
and he turns his head for
the first time in his life,
3020
02:00:22,284 --> 02:00:24,907
and he looks, and
he sees the shapes,
3021
02:00:24,941 --> 02:00:28,600
and he sees the fire itself.
3022
02:00:28,635 --> 02:00:32,604
And it's startling, and
he thinks that is real.
3023
02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:33,640
Now I have seen what is real.
3024
02:00:33,674 --> 02:00:37,575
Before, I only saw the
flickering shadows.
3025
02:00:37,609 --> 02:00:38,921
Now I see what is real.
3026
02:00:40,129 --> 02:00:42,787
But then, he sees on the
far side of the fire,
3027
02:00:44,409 --> 02:00:45,652
a passageway leading out.
3028
02:00:46,687 --> 02:00:50,450
Curious, he decides
to go up the stairs.
3029
02:00:50,484 --> 02:00:52,417
And he climbs the
stairs one by one,
3030
02:00:52,452 --> 02:00:54,488
and he begins to see the light.
3031
02:00:56,318 --> 02:00:58,285
Not of the flickering shadows,
3032
02:00:58,320 --> 02:00:59,493
not of the fire,
not of the shapes,
3033
02:00:59,528 --> 02:01:03,256
but of the world itself.
3034
02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:06,949
And he sees the
world for what it is.
3035
02:01:06,983 --> 02:01:09,296
He sees the actual trees.
3036
02:01:09,331 --> 02:01:11,988
Not the shadows of trees,
not the models of trees,
3037
02:01:12,023 --> 02:01:12,989
the actual trees.
3038
02:01:13,024 --> 02:01:14,646
He sees the sky,
he sees the sun.
3039
02:01:15,682 --> 02:01:17,339
It all becomes
blindingly clear to him,
3040
02:01:17,373 --> 02:01:19,272
and he realizes that
he has spent his life
3041
02:01:19,306 --> 02:01:22,309
imprisoned into a false reality.
3042
02:01:23,517 --> 02:01:27,487
We are told by the
media what the world is.
3043
02:01:27,521 --> 02:01:29,489
We are told by the
media what is right,
3044
02:01:29,523 --> 02:01:30,766
what is wrong, what to believe,
3045
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:32,630
who to love, who to hate.
3046
02:01:32,664 --> 02:01:36,392
These are just shadows
on the wall of the cave.
3047
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:39,430
And then the thought
comes to his mind
3048
02:01:39,464 --> 02:01:41,949
as he regards this
beauty and he says,
3049
02:01:41,984 --> 02:01:44,297
"I must share this!"
3050
02:01:46,368 --> 02:01:48,439
With the people below,
with my friends,
3051
02:01:48,473 --> 02:01:52,512
my companions, my compatriots
chained in the cave.
3052
02:01:52,546 --> 02:01:54,376
So he takes a last look
to drink in the glory
3053
02:01:54,410 --> 02:01:56,343
of everything that he sees.
3054
02:01:56,378 --> 02:02:01,279
And then with excitement,
with joy, with anticipation,
3055
02:02:02,418 --> 02:02:04,696
he turns back down
into the cave,
3056
02:02:05,870 --> 02:02:10,081
and he starts to tell
everyone chained to the wall,
3057
02:02:10,115 --> 02:02:13,567
this is not real, this is not
real, these are illusions.
3058
02:02:13,602 --> 02:02:16,570
And he reaches down and he
tries to break their chains.
3059
02:02:17,502 --> 02:02:19,573
And they do not thank him.
3060
02:02:21,403 --> 02:02:23,474
They do not praise him, they
do not admire his wisdom
3061
02:02:23,508 --> 02:02:24,509
and his courage.
3062
02:02:24,544 --> 02:02:25,821
They fight him.
3063
02:02:25,855 --> 02:02:28,271
And they call him mad,
they call him deranged,
3064
02:02:28,306 --> 02:02:33,311
delusional, disruptive,
seditious, dangerous.
3065
02:02:37,557 --> 02:02:40,387
And he faces the choice,
3066
02:02:40,422 --> 02:02:43,114
the choice that we all face
when we learn the truth.
3067
02:02:45,047 --> 02:02:47,636
Do we stay where we are hated,
3068
02:02:49,085 --> 02:02:50,708
down in the dungeons,
3069
02:02:50,742 --> 02:02:53,538
among the enslaved, mentally.
3070
02:02:53,573 --> 02:02:57,128
Do we stay among those
fixated on their screens,
3071
02:02:57,162 --> 02:02:58,716
who will not tear
their eyes away
3072
02:02:58,750 --> 02:03:02,064
from a manufactured reality
to look at the world itself.
3073
02:03:03,617 --> 02:03:05,688
Or do we go and climb
those stairs again
3074
02:03:05,723 --> 02:03:09,105
to imbibe all the glory and
beauty of the natural world,
3075
02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:12,764
leaving behind
those who fight us
3076
02:03:12,799 --> 02:03:14,076
for bringing them the truth.
3077
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:16,596
I say stand and fight.
3078
02:03:17,804 --> 02:03:19,046
What is the glory of the world
3079
02:03:19,081 --> 02:03:21,221
if we must drink it in solitude?
3080
02:03:21,255 --> 02:03:23,223
What is the beauty of the planet
3081
02:03:23,257 --> 02:03:25,605
if we must view it alone?
3082
02:03:27,158 --> 02:03:29,091
We have an obligation, if
we have seen the truth,
3083
02:03:29,125 --> 02:03:32,335
to wrestle the
lies from the minds
3084
02:03:32,370 --> 02:03:33,854
of those stuck in the cave.
3085
02:03:36,339 --> 02:03:39,722
The cave is the
manufactured reality
3086
02:03:39,757 --> 02:03:41,483
of those who would control us
3087
02:03:41,517 --> 02:03:42,932
by controlling what we think.
3088
02:03:44,486 --> 02:03:48,006
But fundamentally, you can't
control what someone thinks.
3089
02:03:48,041 --> 02:03:52,494
Because once they think,
they are beyond your control.
3090
02:04:05,023 --> 02:04:08,475
♪ Look at the hell
that's been brewing ♪
3091
02:04:08,510 --> 02:04:12,272
♪ So you cry and you
cheat and you steal ♪
3092
02:04:12,306 --> 02:04:15,620
♪ Preaching from
one of your limos ♪
3093
02:04:15,655 --> 02:04:19,486
♪ They struggle just
paying their bills ♪
3094
02:04:19,521 --> 02:04:22,869
♪ I know you're high
and you're mighty ♪
3095
02:04:22,903 --> 02:04:26,838
♪ Is it best if we
all whittle down ♪
3096
02:04:26,873 --> 02:04:30,808
♪ For fortune and power
and devious deeds ♪
3097
02:04:30,842 --> 02:04:34,467
♪ Winners are chosen,
you still won't concede ♪
3098
02:04:34,501 --> 02:04:39,472
♪ Final fight for
what you believe ♪
3099
02:04:40,196 --> 02:04:42,785
♪ If it's anything
3100
02:04:42,820 --> 02:04:47,825
♪ Well there's proof
in the battlefields ♪
3101
02:04:49,758 --> 02:04:52,795
♪ You suck profits
that all that I kill ♪
3102
02:04:52,830 --> 02:04:57,835
♪ But we've got our faith back
3103
02:04:59,112 --> 02:05:02,805
♪ And we're tired
of messing around ♪
3104
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:06,533
♪ We're tired of losing
our feet on the ground ♪
3105
02:05:06,568 --> 02:05:10,364
♪ So tired with
taking you down ♪
3106
02:05:10,399 --> 02:05:13,851
♪ And strip you away
from the media crown ♪
3107
02:05:13,885 --> 02:05:17,337
♪ I know you'll keep
selling us fear ♪
3108
02:05:17,371 --> 02:05:22,376
♪ Don't you forget that
your ending is near ♪
3109
02:05:23,550 --> 02:05:28,244
♪ And you know no
matter what you say ♪
3110
02:05:29,107 --> 02:05:32,352
♪ Your hoax is on display
3111
02:05:32,386 --> 02:05:35,907
♪ We're lighting
your darkest cave ♪
3112
02:05:35,942 --> 02:05:39,601
♪ And the fire won't go away
3113
02:05:39,635 --> 02:05:43,018
♪ If what's right
was on your mind ♪
3114
02:05:43,052 --> 02:05:46,918
♪ Why is the truth
so hard to find ♪
3115
02:05:46,953 --> 02:05:50,612
♪ Might be poor but
we're not blind ♪
3116
02:05:50,646 --> 02:05:54,823
♪ What you've given
is stuck inside ♪
3117
02:06:03,901 --> 02:06:07,594
♪ Look at your tiny retraction
3118
02:06:07,629 --> 02:06:11,115
♪ You've already
gotten the views ♪
3119
02:06:11,149 --> 02:06:14,636
♪ Those methods that
keep us divided ♪
3120
02:06:14,670 --> 02:06:18,812
♪ How else would you
spread your fake news ♪
3121
02:06:18,847 --> 02:06:21,988
♪ Chilling your way
through a story ♪
3122
02:06:22,022 --> 02:06:25,923
♪ While calling up
scoops on the air ♪
3123
02:06:25,957 --> 02:06:29,754
♪ We pray for our youth,
but why would you care ♪
3124
02:06:29,789 --> 02:06:33,793
♪ Searching for honor
in all our despair ♪
3125
02:06:33,827 --> 02:06:38,832
♪ Rather be famous,
pretend like you're there ♪
3126
02:06:39,557 --> 02:06:41,524
♪ And it's never fair
3127
02:06:41,559 --> 02:06:46,564
♪ So we've leveled
the playing fields ♪
3128
02:06:48,877 --> 02:06:51,811
♪ You'll keep pushing
'til someone gets killed ♪
3129
02:06:51,845 --> 02:06:56,850
♪ But we've got
our strength back ♪
3130
02:06:58,231 --> 02:07:01,924
♪ We're tired of
messing around ♪
3131
02:07:01,959 --> 02:07:05,687
♪ We're tired of losing
our men to the ground ♪
3132
02:07:05,721 --> 02:07:09,380
♪ We're tired of
screaming out loud ♪
3133
02:07:09,414 --> 02:07:13,315
♪ We're tired of living
our lives in the cloud ♪
3134
02:07:13,349 --> 02:07:16,767
♪ Go on and sell us your fears
3135
02:07:16,801 --> 02:07:21,806
♪ But look how we've basked
in our enemy's tears ♪
3136
02:07:23,014 --> 02:07:27,225
♪ As we're told to shut
up and let you play ♪
3137
02:07:28,433 --> 02:07:31,022
♪ With our hearts
in a twisted game ♪
3138
02:07:31,057 --> 02:07:34,819
♪ While your lies
all stay the same ♪
3139
02:07:34,854 --> 02:07:38,651
♪ And we call you by your name
3140
02:07:38,685 --> 02:07:42,033
♪ As your hoax is on the run
3141
02:07:42,068 --> 02:07:45,899
♪ And you're like
the sinking sun ♪
3142
02:07:45,934 --> 02:07:49,972
♪ Don't be sore, just
take the plunge ♪
3143
02:07:50,007 --> 02:07:53,700
♪ And let thy will be done
3144
02:07:53,735 --> 02:07:57,428
♪ Sing let thy will be done
3145
02:07:57,462 --> 02:08:00,880
♪ Before the war is won
3146
02:08:00,914 --> 02:08:04,366
♪ And when the war is won
3147
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:08,197
♪ Only then the end will come
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