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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:20,330 - For those of you who don't follow it, 2 00:00:20,365 --> 00:00:22,229 or may not remember it, 3 00:00:23,092 --> 00:00:27,061 one of these really evil people 4 00:00:27,096 --> 00:00:29,270 in the online world, 5 00:00:29,305 --> 00:00:31,755 out of whole cloth make up this story 6 00:00:31,790 --> 00:00:33,792 that John Podesta and I are running 7 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:36,381 a child trafficking ring 8 00:00:36,415 --> 00:00:40,247 in the basement of the Comet Pizza Parlor. 9 00:00:40,281 --> 00:00:41,627 - By the way, there is no basement. 10 00:00:41,662 --> 00:00:44,354 - Yeah, there is no basement. 11 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:49,325 But if you migrate that crazy story to Facebook posts, 12 00:00:50,602 --> 00:00:52,776 there are people who will believe that, 13 00:00:52,811 --> 00:00:56,263 including this very unfortunate young man 14 00:00:56,297 --> 00:00:58,092 in North Carolina, 15 00:00:58,127 --> 00:01:01,544 believing that he was on a mission 16 00:01:01,578 --> 00:01:04,133 because he saw it on Facebook. 17 00:01:04,167 --> 00:01:06,204 He saw it in other places online. 18 00:01:06,238 --> 00:01:09,552 He saw it in quote news outlets, 19 00:01:09,586 --> 00:01:14,004 and so he was there on a mission of rescue. 20 00:01:16,455 --> 00:01:18,181 People could have gotten killed. 21 00:01:27,984 --> 00:01:29,296 - Tonight, a terrifying moment. 22 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:33,023 Authorities say a man with an AR-15, opening fire, 23 00:01:33,058 --> 00:01:35,509 after police say he showed up at a family pizza joint. 24 00:01:35,543 --> 00:01:38,408 - Welsh drove six hours from Salisbury, North Carolina, 25 00:01:38,443 --> 00:01:39,754 to self investigate. 26 00:01:39,789 --> 00:01:42,585 - A conspiracy theory called "Pizzagate." 27 00:01:42,619 --> 00:01:45,484 - Viciously phony rumors that the pizza joint 28 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,797 was the base for a child abuse ring, 29 00:01:47,831 --> 00:01:50,869 using underground tunnels led by Hillary Clinton 30 00:01:50,903 --> 00:01:52,595 and her campaign chief John Podesta. 31 00:01:52,629 --> 00:01:53,768 - This is insane. 32 00:01:53,803 --> 00:01:55,287 - No one was hurt, 33 00:01:55,322 --> 00:01:57,703 but this became an alarming consequence 34 00:01:57,738 --> 00:02:02,122 of the growing online phenomena, fake news. 35 00:02:02,156 --> 00:02:03,157 - The police say there is 36 00:02:03,192 --> 00:02:05,470 no sex trafficking conspiracy, 37 00:02:05,504 --> 00:02:08,507 but millions read about it on dozens of websites, 38 00:02:08,542 --> 00:02:11,717 including one called "Danger in Play." 39 00:02:11,752 --> 00:02:14,686 "Danger in Play" is written by Michael Cernovich. 40 00:02:18,552 --> 00:02:20,174 - All media is narrative. 41 00:02:21,727 --> 00:02:23,350 And we are in a war of narratives. 42 00:02:24,937 --> 00:02:27,354 There is a story about me. 43 00:02:28,734 --> 00:02:31,358 There is a story that I'm just a very mean, 44 00:02:31,392 --> 00:02:33,187 awful, nasty troll. 45 00:02:36,259 --> 00:02:37,985 Is that the totality of who I am? 46 00:02:38,019 --> 00:02:40,332 No, have I been mean before in the past? 47 00:02:40,367 --> 00:02:41,678 Yes. 48 00:02:41,713 --> 00:02:44,025 Here's Hillary's handler, and here's Hillary collapsing. 49 00:02:47,546 --> 00:02:49,203 That's the narrative about me. 50 00:02:49,238 --> 00:02:51,757 I view it more in terms of sort of pro-wrestling. 51 00:02:51,792 --> 00:02:53,552 Bill Clinton is a rapist! 52 00:02:53,587 --> 00:02:54,588 Bill Clinton is a rapist! 53 00:02:55,554 --> 00:02:56,486 And the people are gonna view you 54 00:02:56,521 --> 00:02:58,523 as the heel or the bad guy, 55 00:02:58,557 --> 00:03:00,180 you just have to play up into that role. 56 00:03:00,214 --> 00:03:02,389 Assault, they're assaulting me! 57 00:03:02,423 --> 00:03:03,597 They're attacking me! 58 00:03:03,631 --> 00:03:05,219 And that's what I've done 59 00:03:05,254 --> 00:03:06,910 is I've recognized that people 60 00:03:06,945 --> 00:03:08,498 are gonna misinterpret me, 61 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,569 completely twist my words out of context. 62 00:03:10,604 --> 00:03:12,606 And in many cases, fabricate things, 63 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:14,366 and I can either spend all of my day 64 00:03:14,401 --> 00:03:16,057 explaining why that isn't true, 65 00:03:16,092 --> 00:03:18,577 or I can just embrace that heel role 66 00:03:18,612 --> 00:03:20,786 that you would as a pro wrestler. 67 00:03:20,821 --> 00:03:22,132 My name is Mike Cernovitch, 68 00:03:22,167 --> 00:03:23,893 and I'm a journalist, author, and filmmaker. 69 00:03:26,413 --> 00:03:28,035 That's amazing. 70 00:03:30,762 --> 00:03:32,695 Alright so yeah I just texted Scott Adams, 71 00:03:32,729 --> 00:03:36,043 which says, you know, 72 00:03:36,077 --> 00:03:37,734 hey Scott, my latest film was on fake news. 73 00:03:37,769 --> 00:03:39,426 And one area we wanted to cover 74 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:42,152 was the role cutting and bias is playing fake news, 75 00:03:42,187 --> 00:03:43,637 as well as your two movies theory. 76 00:03:43,671 --> 00:03:45,880 Would you be in for an interview to discuss this? 77 00:03:45,915 --> 00:03:47,434 So I think Scott will do it. 78 00:03:49,436 --> 00:03:50,920 But that would be what we would want 79 00:03:50,954 --> 00:03:52,577 to talk to him about. 80 00:03:52,611 --> 00:03:54,579 - He's in the bay area, right? 81 00:03:54,613 --> 00:03:55,890 - Yeah he's in the bay area. 82 00:03:58,617 --> 00:04:00,585 - I am Scott Adams. 83 00:04:00,619 --> 00:04:03,104 I'm the creator of the Dilbert comic strip. 84 00:04:03,139 --> 00:04:05,590 I'm a trained hypnotist and have studied 85 00:04:05,624 --> 00:04:07,281 persuasion for decades. 86 00:04:07,316 --> 00:04:10,905 In persuasion, there's a thing called framing. 87 00:04:10,940 --> 00:04:13,425 It's how you think about a situation. 88 00:04:13,460 --> 00:04:15,462 People can frame things very differently. 89 00:04:15,496 --> 00:04:18,016 And skilled persuaders are especially good at it. 90 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:20,501 And so it's something I'm trained to do. 91 00:04:20,536 --> 00:04:22,503 Whoever gets there first, 92 00:04:22,538 --> 00:04:25,437 it's tough to get that into your head. 93 00:04:25,472 --> 00:04:27,819 So going first makes a big difference. 94 00:04:27,853 --> 00:04:30,580 I've started doing a lot of live streaming on Periscope, 95 00:04:30,615 --> 00:04:32,755 and when there's a big story, 96 00:04:32,789 --> 00:04:36,414 I can be live to the world within minutes. 97 00:04:36,448 --> 00:04:39,658 I just pick up my phone and I'm live to the world. 98 00:04:39,693 --> 00:04:41,660 And the framing that I put on things, 99 00:04:41,695 --> 00:04:43,628 I'm quite aware of the fact 100 00:04:43,662 --> 00:04:47,528 that because I'm both persuasive by training, 101 00:04:47,563 --> 00:04:52,568 and I'm first, that my framing is exceptionally sticky. 102 00:04:53,327 --> 00:04:54,639 A lot of what we see as fake news 103 00:04:54,673 --> 00:04:57,676 is two movies playing on one screen. 104 00:04:57,711 --> 00:04:59,954 So if you took a bunch of the people on the right, 105 00:04:59,989 --> 00:05:01,611 and a bunch of the people on the left, 106 00:05:01,646 --> 00:05:02,543 and put 'em in the same theater, 107 00:05:02,578 --> 00:05:04,338 and said, "Watch this movie." 108 00:05:04,373 --> 00:05:06,340 And when they left, they would come out 109 00:05:06,375 --> 00:05:08,549 with completely different ideas 110 00:05:08,584 --> 00:05:10,137 of what they had just watched. 111 00:05:10,171 --> 00:05:11,034 Even though they had watched 112 00:05:11,069 --> 00:05:12,484 exactly the same thing. 113 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,072 - The director of controversial 114 00:05:14,106 --> 00:05:15,487 documentary "The Red Pill" 115 00:05:15,522 --> 00:05:17,558 is in Australia to promote her film, 116 00:05:17,593 --> 00:05:19,042 which has sparked protests. 117 00:05:19,077 --> 00:05:21,217 - It's really quite an experience 118 00:05:21,251 --> 00:05:24,013 to have fake news written about you personally. 119 00:05:24,047 --> 00:05:25,566 It's happened to me a number of times. 120 00:05:25,601 --> 00:05:28,397 Usually in the form of somebody's imagining 121 00:05:28,431 --> 00:05:30,088 what's in my dark soul, 122 00:05:30,122 --> 00:05:33,367 and they imagine I hate something almost always. 123 00:05:33,402 --> 00:05:35,093 That's completely off-base. 124 00:05:35,127 --> 00:05:36,681 Until it happens to you, 125 00:05:36,715 --> 00:05:38,545 and you see it repeatedly, 126 00:05:38,579 --> 00:05:40,581 you can't really understand 127 00:05:40,616 --> 00:05:42,583 how powerful the fake news is, 128 00:05:42,618 --> 00:05:46,242 how much it changes real people's lives. 129 00:05:46,276 --> 00:05:48,589 And how widespread it is. 130 00:05:50,315 --> 00:05:52,869 - Oh, fake news. 131 00:05:58,047 --> 00:05:59,013 Yes. 132 00:06:00,739 --> 00:06:03,777 - And I think people who have been 133 00:06:03,811 --> 00:06:05,675 printed in the media a lot 134 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:08,713 can start to identify who is fake news, 135 00:06:08,747 --> 00:06:12,406 because they know their true story more than anyone. 136 00:06:12,441 --> 00:06:14,753 And they can see who's not telling the truth. 137 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:19,448 When I was 21, I enlisted my mother 138 00:06:19,482 --> 00:06:20,932 as my producer and camera woman, 139 00:06:20,966 --> 00:06:22,278 and we hit the road filming, 140 00:06:22,312 --> 00:06:24,245 and made our first film, "Daddy I Do," 141 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:25,799 which looked at women's rights. 142 00:06:27,007 --> 00:06:30,217 And that film was really embraced 143 00:06:30,251 --> 00:06:32,322 and supported by Planned Parenthood. 144 00:06:32,357 --> 00:06:36,879 They funded a northwestern screening tour of the film, 145 00:06:36,913 --> 00:06:39,157 and flew us out, and we did a bunch of the screenings 146 00:06:39,191 --> 00:06:41,159 and had dinner parties, and it was wonderful, 147 00:06:41,193 --> 00:06:44,783 and it was really supported in feminist circles. 148 00:06:44,818 --> 00:06:46,164 So we had a lot of success. 149 00:06:46,198 --> 00:06:49,823 And you know, everyone was saying that we had, 150 00:06:49,857 --> 00:06:51,997 or that I had a bright future as a filmmaker 151 00:06:52,032 --> 00:06:53,309 because of that film. 152 00:06:53,343 --> 00:06:55,345 And then my second big feature film 153 00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:57,451 was about LGBT rights. 154 00:06:57,486 --> 00:07:00,799 And then I made a slough of short films about, 155 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:02,283 mostly about women's issues. 156 00:07:02,318 --> 00:07:04,147 And that was kind of my brand. 157 00:07:04,182 --> 00:07:05,632 That was my reputation. 158 00:07:05,666 --> 00:07:08,013 And I had a lot of support in that. 159 00:07:17,402 --> 00:07:18,472 - Okay. 160 00:07:18,507 --> 00:07:20,129 - A controversial documentary 161 00:07:20,163 --> 00:07:22,442 on the men's rights movement 162 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:24,616 has had screenings in Melbourne canceled 163 00:07:24,651 --> 00:07:26,756 after a petition claimed the film 164 00:07:26,791 --> 00:07:28,275 was misogynistic propaganda. 165 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:30,864 - Misogynist propaganda, anti-women. 166 00:07:30,898 --> 00:07:32,935 - It is absolutely a propaganda film. 167 00:07:32,969 --> 00:07:33,832 It has tied up its moment. 168 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:35,455 - Her name is Cassie Jaye, 169 00:07:35,489 --> 00:07:37,664 and she made a lot of people very very angered. 170 00:07:40,667 --> 00:07:43,670 - You don't really question their views in the film. 171 00:07:43,704 --> 00:07:44,774 - Did you see the film? 172 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:46,189 - But why didn't you ask him about that? 173 00:07:46,224 --> 00:07:47,812 - I did ask them about that. 174 00:07:47,846 --> 00:07:49,814 - Aren't generalizations like that dangerous? 175 00:07:49,848 --> 00:07:50,677 - Because your publicist wouldn't 176 00:07:50,711 --> 00:07:52,299 send us the full thing. 177 00:07:52,333 --> 00:07:54,128 - I sent you the screener link actually to the full film. 178 00:07:54,163 --> 00:07:56,199 - She doesn't actually do the research. 179 00:07:56,234 --> 00:07:58,512 - Though many of the films backers are MRAs. 180 00:07:59,582 --> 00:08:00,997 - This is just a conversation 181 00:08:01,032 --> 00:08:03,344 where we want to talk about men and boys problems 182 00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:05,485 for just five minutes. 183 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:06,382 - Cassie, we're out of time. 184 00:08:06,416 --> 00:08:07,625 We'll have to leave it there. 185 00:08:07,659 --> 00:08:10,662 But thank you very much. 186 00:08:11,939 --> 00:08:14,735 - Initially, I thought I was gonna be making a film 187 00:08:14,770 --> 00:08:17,082 exposing men's rights activists 188 00:08:17,117 --> 00:08:21,328 as misogynist, rape apologists, women-haters, 189 00:08:21,362 --> 00:08:23,882 trying to turn back the clock on women's rights. 190 00:08:23,917 --> 00:08:26,678 And after that year of filming 44 people, 191 00:08:26,713 --> 00:08:29,750 I realized that the film I thought I was gonna make 192 00:08:29,785 --> 00:08:34,790 was not the truth of the story I got. 193 00:08:35,722 --> 00:08:37,655 I didn't change my views on gender equality. 194 00:08:37,689 --> 00:08:41,417 I actually expanded my views on gender equality 195 00:08:41,451 --> 00:08:44,178 that we should consider men in the equation. 196 00:08:44,213 --> 00:08:45,870 But they wanted to make it seem like 197 00:08:45,904 --> 00:08:48,389 I was against women's rights. 198 00:08:48,424 --> 00:08:50,184 I mean, even some of the interviews I did 199 00:08:50,219 --> 00:08:52,842 on Australian news, the lower third 200 00:08:52,877 --> 00:08:56,915 where they would say the title of the episode they're doing, 201 00:08:56,950 --> 00:09:01,886 one of the titles was, "Filmmaker Changes Her Views 202 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:04,302 On Gender Equality." 203 00:09:04,336 --> 00:09:06,718 To inference that I'm now against women's rights, 204 00:09:06,753 --> 00:09:08,893 which couldn't be further from the truth. 205 00:09:08,927 --> 00:09:12,862 But the project in Australia, 206 00:09:12,897 --> 00:09:14,968 they put together a video package, 207 00:09:15,002 --> 00:09:17,315 setting me up as a monster. 208 00:09:17,349 --> 00:09:19,110 And in their graphics they said 209 00:09:19,144 --> 00:09:21,491 the Red Pill movie was funded 210 00:09:21,526 --> 00:09:23,217 by men's rights activists. 211 00:09:23,252 --> 00:09:26,255 - Though many of the films backers are MRAs. 212 00:09:26,289 --> 00:09:28,913 - And it's just this little soundbite 213 00:09:28,947 --> 00:09:32,468 in an effort to discredit my entire 214 00:09:32,502 --> 00:09:34,401 last four years work. 215 00:09:34,435 --> 00:09:35,885 I did a Kickstarter campaign. 216 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,268 Everyone knows no one has creative control 217 00:09:39,302 --> 00:09:40,890 if you're a Kickstarter backer. 218 00:09:40,925 --> 00:09:43,893 They're a minority of men's rights activists. 219 00:09:43,928 --> 00:09:45,239 A minority of feminists. 220 00:09:45,274 --> 00:09:48,484 And mostly people who didn't identify as either. 221 00:09:48,518 --> 00:09:50,969 And you know, moving forward with my career 222 00:09:51,004 --> 00:09:53,800 as a filmmaker, I don't know how 223 00:09:54,663 --> 00:09:56,147 this smear campaign will have 224 00:09:56,181 --> 00:09:58,977 impacted my future opportunities. 225 00:10:07,123 --> 00:10:12,128 When I started to see the media going after me, personally, 226 00:10:12,957 --> 00:10:14,441 like on the direct attack, 227 00:10:14,475 --> 00:10:16,961 trying to take down my credibility and my reputation, 228 00:10:19,308 --> 00:10:22,552 I felt cheated and lied to 229 00:10:22,587 --> 00:10:25,970 for my entire previous life before 230 00:10:26,004 --> 00:10:30,043 I became this public figure with the smear campaign. 231 00:10:30,077 --> 00:10:32,010 I feel like how can I have trusted 232 00:10:32,045 --> 00:10:33,356 anything they've ever said about 233 00:10:33,391 --> 00:10:34,806 all these other people who I've seen 234 00:10:34,841 --> 00:10:36,670 smeared in the media before, 235 00:10:36,705 --> 00:10:39,984 and I believed what the mainstream media said about them. 236 00:10:40,018 --> 00:10:41,364 - First tonight, 237 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:44,989 our report on the incendiary radio host, Alex Jones. 238 00:10:46,507 --> 00:10:49,407 - He's known for promoting wild conspiracy theories. 239 00:10:50,753 --> 00:10:51,823 - Over the years, his YouTube channel 240 00:10:51,858 --> 00:10:55,206 has racked up 1.3 billion views. 241 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,726 He has millions of listeners. 242 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,038 And the ear of our current president. 243 00:11:00,073 --> 00:11:01,799 - Your reputation's amazing. 244 00:11:01,833 --> 00:11:03,214 I will not let you down. 245 00:11:03,248 --> 00:11:04,905 You will be impressed I hope. 246 00:11:04,940 --> 00:11:07,667 - According to his own counsel, 247 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:10,600 he is playing a character. 248 00:11:10,635 --> 00:11:11,878 - But the idea that Jones 249 00:11:11,912 --> 00:11:14,674 doesn't necessarily believe everything he says 250 00:11:14,708 --> 00:11:17,538 may take some of his fans by surprise. 251 00:11:17,573 --> 00:11:20,887 - He produces the show from his basement. 252 00:11:20,921 --> 00:11:22,889 - Broadcasting worldwide. 253 00:11:22,923 --> 00:11:24,684 I'm your host Alex Jones. 254 00:11:24,718 --> 00:11:26,858 So what is the state of our world today? 255 00:11:26,893 --> 00:11:29,274 The quickening, the intensification, 256 00:11:29,309 --> 00:11:31,000 the insanity, the wars. 257 00:11:31,035 --> 00:11:34,038 Why is Alex Jones in a movie about fake news? 258 00:11:34,072 --> 00:11:35,867 In fact, I bet when this film comes out, 259 00:11:35,902 --> 00:11:37,351 they're going to have reviews saying, 260 00:11:37,386 --> 00:11:39,871 "Ha ha, look at the filmmakers. 261 00:11:39,906 --> 00:11:43,081 "To cover fake news, they talk to the king of fake news." 262 00:11:43,116 --> 00:11:43,944 Wait a minute. 263 00:11:43,979 --> 00:11:45,912 Even if that was true, 264 00:11:45,946 --> 00:11:48,052 you'd want to talk to the king of fake news. 265 00:11:48,086 --> 00:11:49,950 Mike Cernovich is here with some amazing 266 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:54,058 established filmmakers, putting on this big film, "Hoaxed." 267 00:11:54,092 --> 00:11:56,094 Dealing with mainstream media and fraud. 268 00:11:56,129 --> 00:11:57,889 And they asked me the question, are you an actor. 269 00:11:57,924 --> 00:12:00,443 When I engage in satire or acting, 270 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:02,791 it's a joke when I say those things. 271 00:12:02,825 --> 00:12:06,035 I'm gonna go say some horrible things on air right now, 272 00:12:06,070 --> 00:12:08,624 to illustrate how the globalists are sick freaks. 273 00:12:08,658 --> 00:12:10,039 It doesn't mean I actually believe 274 00:12:10,074 --> 00:12:11,972 the things I'm about to say. 275 00:12:12,007 --> 00:12:14,147 Thing's really tight on the eyes. 276 00:12:14,181 --> 00:12:16,736 So get ready, this is Alex Jones. 277 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:19,393 This is Alex Jones being an actor, let's go. 278 00:12:19,428 --> 00:12:21,879 You'll never defeat the human spirit! 279 00:12:21,913 --> 00:12:24,295 I'm liberal, huh, oh oh. 280 00:12:24,329 --> 00:12:25,952 I apologize, I apologize. 281 00:12:25,986 --> 00:12:26,815 Jesus forgive me. 282 00:12:26,849 --> 00:12:28,955 1776 will commence again 283 00:12:28,989 --> 00:12:30,991 if you try to take our firearms. 284 00:12:31,026 --> 00:12:33,131 We're such self-centered crap, 285 00:12:33,166 --> 00:12:35,996 that we don't even notice hell itself rising up. 286 00:12:36,031 --> 00:12:38,067 I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water 287 00:12:38,102 --> 00:12:40,138 that turn the freaking frogs gay. 288 00:12:40,173 --> 00:12:41,830 I've got the fire of human liberty. 289 00:12:41,864 --> 00:12:43,279 I'm setting fires everywhere. 290 00:12:43,314 --> 00:12:47,974 And kids, Magellan's a lot cooler than Justin Bieber! 291 00:12:48,008 --> 00:12:49,596 It doesn't bother me, once you do it, whatever. 292 00:12:49,630 --> 00:12:51,253 I just, if you guys want to put it out, 293 00:12:51,287 --> 00:12:52,633 just make sure if you do do put it out, 294 00:12:52,668 --> 00:12:54,187 make sure people don't have a pulled muscle. 295 00:12:54,221 --> 00:12:55,809 Just don't say I'm a crazy person. 296 00:12:55,844 --> 00:12:57,190 Which I am kinda crazy already. 297 00:12:57,224 --> 00:12:59,813 But let me just start over, here we go. 298 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:02,402 I wear many hats. 299 00:13:05,198 --> 00:13:08,132 But 99% of the time, I'm a father, 300 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:10,548 I'm a patriot who wants to simply 301 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:11,963 research the facts 302 00:13:11,998 --> 00:13:13,965 so we can live in a better world. 303 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,003 And that's why since the time I was 21 years old, 304 00:13:17,037 --> 00:13:18,659 I've been on air, 305 00:13:18,694 --> 00:13:21,731 because I've known there's been a war on for our minds. 306 00:13:21,766 --> 00:13:24,320 - The victory will be an endorsement of a philosophy. 307 00:13:24,355 --> 00:13:26,012 - Sir, shouldn't we abolish the CFR? 308 00:13:26,046 --> 00:13:27,116 That's the real reality that 309 00:13:27,151 --> 00:13:28,014 none of you will talk about 310 00:13:28,048 --> 00:13:29,015 and most of you remembers. 311 00:13:29,049 --> 00:13:30,361 And I'm being drugged out, laugh at it. 312 00:13:30,395 --> 00:13:32,501 - We need whistle blowers, 313 00:13:32,535 --> 00:13:33,847 and we need whistle blowers 314 00:13:33,882 --> 00:13:36,125 who aren't afraid of being smeared. 315 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,196 Courageous people that are willing 316 00:13:38,231 --> 00:13:39,853 to step into the limelight, 317 00:13:41,027 --> 00:13:44,858 and take the tomatoes being thrown at them. 318 00:13:44,893 --> 00:13:46,377 - My entire career it's been about 319 00:13:46,411 --> 00:13:47,827 putting myself out there 320 00:13:47,861 --> 00:13:51,037 to take the hit first, to draw the enemy out, 321 00:13:51,071 --> 00:13:53,522 so that more people wake up to the larger picture. 322 00:13:53,556 --> 00:13:56,076 I knew Megyn Kelly was coming here to destroy me. 323 00:13:56,111 --> 00:13:59,528 I knew she was coming here to do the ultimate hit piece. 324 00:14:01,806 --> 00:14:04,878 And so I understood that I had to basically 325 00:14:04,913 --> 00:14:08,571 take her attack on so that I could use it as a way 326 00:14:08,606 --> 00:14:10,573 to educate my listeners and viewers 327 00:14:10,608 --> 00:14:13,162 on the anatomy of a hit piece. 328 00:14:13,197 --> 00:14:16,752 - I think why smear campaigns happen to people like me 329 00:14:16,786 --> 00:14:20,480 is to send a warning to other people 330 00:14:21,481 --> 00:14:23,759 to not go off the reservation 331 00:14:23,793 --> 00:14:26,210 and do something like what I did. 332 00:14:26,244 --> 00:14:28,039 A warning to don't do that, 333 00:14:28,074 --> 00:14:31,698 or we're gonna do to you what we did to her. 334 00:14:31,732 --> 00:14:33,458 - Because when you're one of the main subjects 335 00:14:33,493 --> 00:14:36,392 that's been chosen to be destroyed, 336 00:14:36,427 --> 00:14:38,912 because they know that what I promote 337 00:14:38,947 --> 00:14:41,397 really does symbolize basic American values, 338 00:14:41,432 --> 00:14:42,951 if they can destroy that, 339 00:14:42,985 --> 00:14:45,056 they think they can really hurt their real enemy. 340 00:14:45,091 --> 00:14:46,299 That's the American people. 341 00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:48,128 - We gotta take this guy out. 342 00:14:48,163 --> 00:14:49,785 Why you gotta take me out? 343 00:14:49,819 --> 00:14:51,821 Because I'm not part of the permanent political class. 344 00:14:51,856 --> 00:14:54,272 You gotta take me out 'cause I'm a business executive, 345 00:14:54,307 --> 00:14:58,138 and I can smell the rotting cadaver of Washington 346 00:14:58,173 --> 00:15:01,038 that sits in the basement of the American public 347 00:15:01,072 --> 00:15:02,315 and the American community. 348 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:04,213 And I'm ready to help the American people 349 00:15:04,248 --> 00:15:06,250 remove the cadaver from the basement. 350 00:15:06,284 --> 00:15:09,080 You see, the way I was getting hit, 351 00:15:09,115 --> 00:15:10,806 one of my buddies said to me, 352 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,221 you're getting hit like that 353 00:15:12,256 --> 00:15:14,120 because you can articulate the President's strategy. 354 00:15:14,154 --> 00:15:15,293 I'm on BBC Newswatch, 355 00:15:16,329 --> 00:15:18,331 and I'm being interviewed by Emily, 356 00:15:18,365 --> 00:15:20,057 and it's a live presentation. 357 00:15:20,091 --> 00:15:22,231 I've got the White House behind me. 358 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:23,267 And we're talking. 359 00:15:23,301 --> 00:15:24,924 It's over, I shake her hand. 360 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:27,409 I'm walking to my office in the West Wing. 361 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:28,582 My cell phone's ringing. 362 00:15:28,617 --> 00:15:29,859 I pick up the cell phone. 363 00:15:29,894 --> 00:15:31,240 I'm not gonna tell you who it was. 364 00:15:31,275 --> 00:15:34,174 But it was a person in Republican opposition 365 00:15:34,209 --> 00:15:36,004 research for 30 years. 366 00:15:36,038 --> 00:15:37,591 They said, "Ant, you're in a lot of trouble." 367 00:15:37,626 --> 00:15:41,112 He had great verbal dexterity on BBC Newswatch, 368 00:15:41,147 --> 00:15:42,769 and they're now saying, my God, 369 00:15:42,803 --> 00:15:45,047 this guy might be able to have tea with the queen. 370 00:15:46,324 --> 00:15:48,292 And I've gotten four or five calls on you 371 00:15:48,326 --> 00:15:49,707 since you finished that interview, 372 00:15:49,741 --> 00:15:52,330 saying what do you got on this guy? 373 00:15:52,365 --> 00:15:53,953 They gotta find something on me. 374 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:55,092 I sort of feel bad for them 375 00:15:55,126 --> 00:15:56,783 because they figured I'm Italian, 376 00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:58,302 and I got 28 years on Wall Street. 377 00:15:58,336 --> 00:16:00,028 I had to do something dishonest. 378 00:16:00,062 --> 00:16:01,961 So they spent seven months ripping through 379 00:16:01,995 --> 00:16:03,686 my financial records and background. 380 00:16:03,721 --> 00:16:05,136 Couldn't find anything, 381 00:16:05,171 --> 00:16:06,896 so they got me on three curse words. 382 00:16:06,931 --> 00:16:08,450 Leak the thing and see if I can 383 00:16:08,484 --> 00:16:10,038 block these people 384 00:16:10,072 --> 00:16:12,350 the way I can Scaramucci for six months. 385 00:16:12,385 --> 00:16:14,007 They treated it like it was, 386 00:16:14,042 --> 00:16:16,527 I poured hot water on a newborn baby. 387 00:16:16,561 --> 00:16:20,980 - We had had hundreds of TV networks and newspapers call us 388 00:16:22,222 --> 00:16:23,223 in the month before Megyn Kelly called. 389 00:16:23,258 --> 00:16:25,294 And I refused all the interviews, 390 00:16:25,329 --> 00:16:26,709 because I knew that there was basically 391 00:16:26,744 --> 00:16:31,749 a bounty out to do a huge deceptive hit piece on myself. 392 00:16:32,508 --> 00:16:33,820 And so when I heard that Megyn Kelly 393 00:16:33,854 --> 00:16:34,924 was calling up my producer, 394 00:16:34,959 --> 00:16:36,167 being thickly sweet, saying, 395 00:16:36,202 --> 00:16:38,169 "Oh here's my cell phone number. 396 00:16:38,204 --> 00:16:39,999 "Please call me personally. 397 00:16:40,033 --> 00:16:42,415 "I'm really into Alex, he's really cool." 398 00:16:42,449 --> 00:16:44,589 That right there was a giant red flag. 399 00:16:44,624 --> 00:16:47,006 And as soon as I call her, boom. 400 00:16:47,937 --> 00:16:49,180 She wants to go out to dinner with me. 401 00:16:49,215 --> 00:16:50,250 She's obsessed with me. 402 00:16:50,285 --> 00:16:51,769 She things I'm really handsome. 403 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:53,081 But she thinks men that have 404 00:16:53,115 --> 00:16:55,324 a little pot belly like me are sexy. 405 00:16:55,359 --> 00:16:57,499 That the best men look like me. 406 00:16:57,533 --> 00:16:58,948 These are exact things she said. 407 00:16:58,983 --> 00:17:00,364 So I got my other phone, 408 00:17:00,398 --> 00:17:02,573 and started recording it on speakerphone. 409 00:17:02,607 --> 00:17:04,264 - You know, you just became 410 00:17:04,299 --> 00:17:05,403 very fascinating to me. 411 00:17:05,438 --> 00:17:07,578 I just sort of thought you were this maybe 412 00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:10,891 one-dimensional guy, like, this is your thing. 413 00:17:10,926 --> 00:17:13,170 - She promised me that it wasn't a hit piece. 414 00:17:13,204 --> 00:17:15,275 That she didn't even want to get into the subjects 415 00:17:15,310 --> 00:17:17,070 like Sandy Hook. 416 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:18,865 - It's not gonna be some gotcha hit piece. 417 00:17:18,899 --> 00:17:20,108 I promise you that. 418 00:17:20,142 --> 00:17:21,971 - But of course, once she got here, 419 00:17:22,006 --> 00:17:24,629 she uncloaked herself. 420 00:17:24,664 --> 00:17:25,423 - Sandy Hook. 421 00:17:25,458 --> 00:17:26,217 9-11. 422 00:17:26,252 --> 00:17:27,529 That's a dodge. 423 00:17:27,563 --> 00:17:29,220 - And she would take pieces where 424 00:17:29,255 --> 00:17:32,810 I'd said one thing 20 minutes before, I love Satan. 425 00:17:32,844 --> 00:17:33,983 And edit that into something 426 00:17:34,018 --> 00:17:35,537 that was a completely other subject 427 00:17:35,571 --> 00:17:38,298 to make it sound like I was a stark raving 428 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:41,232 babbling stuttering volleyball or something. 429 00:17:41,267 --> 00:17:42,233 It's just-- 430 00:18:08,432 --> 00:18:10,606 - So the media, and especially the fake news, 431 00:18:10,641 --> 00:18:13,989 can ruin lives fairly easily. 432 00:18:14,023 --> 00:18:17,337 I've had quite a bit of fake news lobbed at me. 433 00:18:19,305 --> 00:18:21,169 - Well the fake news was that I had said 434 00:18:21,203 --> 00:18:23,136 negative things about women, 435 00:18:23,171 --> 00:18:24,827 which if you saw them in context, 436 00:18:24,862 --> 00:18:26,829 you would understand that they weren't. 437 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:29,591 But out of context, whoa, they sounded terrible. 438 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,041 If I thought somebody actually thought 439 00:18:32,076 --> 00:18:34,354 the things that people said I thought, 440 00:18:34,389 --> 00:18:36,356 I would not like that person. 441 00:18:36,391 --> 00:18:38,151 And if you think somebody's evil, 442 00:18:38,186 --> 00:18:39,497 whatever comes out of their mouth 443 00:18:39,532 --> 00:18:40,809 is gonna sound pretty evil. 444 00:18:40,843 --> 00:18:43,674 And if you think that person is on your side, 445 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:44,882 even if they say something 446 00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:46,539 that sounds a little bit evil, 447 00:18:46,573 --> 00:18:49,128 you're gonna say, ah, that's Bob. 448 00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:50,163 He doesn't mean that. 449 00:18:50,198 --> 00:18:52,303 So we imagine we can see 450 00:18:52,338 --> 00:18:54,305 what's in the soul of other people. 451 00:18:54,340 --> 00:18:57,170 It's the most classic mistake you could make. 452 00:18:57,205 --> 00:18:59,345 You're not good at peering into souls. 453 00:18:59,379 --> 00:19:00,863 You just think you are. 454 00:19:00,898 --> 00:19:03,072 Everybody thinks they're good at it. 455 00:19:03,107 --> 00:19:04,073 Everybody's wrong. 456 00:19:04,108 --> 00:19:06,179 We're all terrible at it. 457 00:19:06,214 --> 00:19:08,630 And weirdly, we imagine that these normal people 458 00:19:08,664 --> 00:19:11,391 who would be our friends in any other context 459 00:19:11,426 --> 00:19:14,394 are actually like monsters on the inside. 460 00:19:14,429 --> 00:19:16,500 And it's pretty rare that anybody's 461 00:19:16,534 --> 00:19:18,536 actually a monster on the inside. 462 00:19:23,231 --> 00:19:26,337 - This is the spot where it was first seen. 463 00:19:28,512 --> 00:19:29,582 Where did it come from? 464 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:31,377 What is it? 465 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:37,383 - They're bringing crime, they're rapists. 466 00:19:37,417 --> 00:19:39,557 You know, I know nothing about David Duke. 467 00:19:44,735 --> 00:19:46,357 - It's the end of the world every day. 468 00:19:46,392 --> 00:19:48,946 24 hour Trump horror fest. 469 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:50,361 He tweeted again, you know. 470 00:19:50,396 --> 00:19:52,121 Civilization is collapsing. 471 00:19:52,156 --> 00:19:53,226 Never in the history 472 00:19:53,261 --> 00:19:54,538 of the United States, 473 00:19:54,572 --> 00:19:57,368 a monster of such horrifying hatred of man. 474 00:19:59,474 --> 00:20:01,683 - They claim that they can hear dog whistles. 475 00:20:01,717 --> 00:20:04,272 Secret messages embedded in the text. 476 00:20:04,306 --> 00:20:06,446 They have a special power for hearing what you said 477 00:20:06,481 --> 00:20:08,345 without you actually saying it. 478 00:20:08,379 --> 00:20:10,899 We can disagree with some or several 479 00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:12,245 of Trump's policies. 480 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,385 I'm not here to talk about politics. 481 00:20:14,420 --> 00:20:16,560 I'm talking about what he said, 482 00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:18,596 and how it compares to what the media 483 00:20:18,631 --> 00:20:20,080 literally portrayed him as saying. 484 00:20:23,567 --> 00:20:26,777 When Donald Trump kicked off his presidential campaign 485 00:20:26,811 --> 00:20:28,986 at Trump Tower, he goes down the escalator 486 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:31,437 and he gives a speech in which he says, 487 00:20:31,471 --> 00:20:33,542 "All Mexicans are rapists." 488 00:20:33,577 --> 00:20:35,579 This isn't just a general impression. 489 00:20:35,613 --> 00:20:39,238 I mean, this is something that was said repeatedly. 490 00:20:39,272 --> 00:20:42,137 On CNN, Time Magazine, CBS, 491 00:20:42,171 --> 00:20:44,760 Washington Post, Politico, Huffington Post. 492 00:20:44,795 --> 00:20:46,141 Repeatedly time and again, 493 00:20:46,175 --> 00:20:47,729 we find them literally saying that 494 00:20:47,763 --> 00:20:52,112 Donald Trump said Mexican immigrants are rapists. 495 00:20:52,147 --> 00:20:56,565 A horrifyingly disturbing, and grotesque thing to say. 496 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,635 If Donald Trump said that, 497 00:20:57,670 --> 00:20:59,948 then absolutely he should drop out. 498 00:20:59,982 --> 00:21:02,191 The fact of course is that's not quite what he says. 499 00:21:02,226 --> 00:21:05,471 What he says is, "When Mexico sends people, 500 00:21:05,505 --> 00:21:06,817 "they're not sending their best. 501 00:21:06,851 --> 00:21:08,646 "They're sending people that have lots of problems. 502 00:21:08,681 --> 00:21:10,476 "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crimes, 503 00:21:10,510 --> 00:21:13,272 "they're rapists, and some I assume are good people." 504 00:21:13,306 --> 00:21:17,483 And what he did say, you know, was graceless. 505 00:21:17,517 --> 00:21:19,485 It was inappropriate. 506 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:22,211 But gosh, it wasn't, he didn't say 507 00:21:22,246 --> 00:21:23,627 that all Mexicans are rapists. 508 00:21:23,661 --> 00:21:24,869 That's just not what he said. 509 00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:27,286 He's complaining that somehow he thinks 510 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,495 the Mexican government is sending 511 00:21:29,529 --> 00:21:32,463 people that have lots of problems. 512 00:21:32,498 --> 00:21:35,673 But the media fixated on two or three words. 513 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:36,709 They are rapists. 514 00:21:36,743 --> 00:21:38,504 And decided that the noun there must be 515 00:21:38,538 --> 00:21:41,852 the worst possible interpretation, meaning all Mexicans. 516 00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:46,063 Every single Mexican, children, nuns, old people, 517 00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:47,651 all of them are rapists, 518 00:21:47,685 --> 00:21:49,687 and what a shame that Donald Trump said that. 519 00:21:49,722 --> 00:21:51,620 And he explained himself repeatedly. 520 00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:54,830 He went around, praising Mexicans, in multiple states, 521 00:21:54,865 --> 00:21:56,384 again and again, saying they're good people, 522 00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:57,350 they're wonderful people. 523 00:21:57,385 --> 00:21:58,903 I want them to come in legally. 524 00:21:58,938 --> 00:22:00,249 The media never cared. 525 00:22:00,284 --> 00:22:02,182 What they cared about was this cartoon 526 00:22:02,217 --> 00:22:04,702 to not echo a stereotype. 527 00:22:04,737 --> 00:22:07,809 Create a stereotype that I had never even heard of 528 00:22:07,843 --> 00:22:09,707 that all Mexicans are rapists. 529 00:22:09,742 --> 00:22:11,882 What's stunning about these stories, these memes, 530 00:22:11,916 --> 00:22:15,195 is that even despite they're being so incoherent, 531 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:18,095 the media is able to just keep them going endlessly 532 00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:20,200 by systematically neglecting 533 00:22:20,235 --> 00:22:22,582 every shred of evidence against the story. 534 00:22:22,617 --> 00:22:25,551 And reading between the lines with everything 535 00:22:25,585 --> 00:22:27,104 that seems a little off color. 536 00:22:31,798 --> 00:22:33,075 So here's another meme. 537 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:34,732 During the campaign, 538 00:22:34,767 --> 00:22:37,666 Donald Trump called for the creation 539 00:22:37,701 --> 00:22:40,393 of a national database, a registry, 540 00:22:40,428 --> 00:22:42,740 that would track all Muslims in America. 541 00:22:42,775 --> 00:22:44,673 Every Muslim-American would have to be 542 00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,226 registered in this thing, 543 00:22:46,261 --> 00:22:49,195 carry a special ID, perhaps wear a badge. 544 00:22:49,229 --> 00:22:52,025 This was echoed in countless many media. 545 00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:52,957 It's totally false. 546 00:22:52,992 --> 00:22:54,269 It just didn't happen. 547 00:22:54,303 --> 00:22:56,685 The proposal wasn't created by Donald Trump. 548 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,619 It was made by a Yahoo reporter. 549 00:22:59,654 --> 00:23:00,965 - Do you think we might need 550 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,691 to register Muslims in some type of database 551 00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:04,693 or note their religion on their ID? 552 00:23:04,728 --> 00:23:07,731 - This is Hunter Walker, Yahoo News, 553 00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:09,111 asking this to Trump. 554 00:23:09,146 --> 00:23:10,423 And what did Trump do? 555 00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:12,736 He didn't answer the question directly. 556 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:14,738 You know, he's just interested in sticking 557 00:23:14,772 --> 00:23:17,085 to his message and saying the things he wants to say. 558 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,776 It's known as the artful dodge. 559 00:23:18,811 --> 00:23:20,088 I mean, this is something politicians 560 00:23:20,122 --> 00:23:21,814 have been doing since for decades. 561 00:23:21,848 --> 00:23:23,816 - Well, we're gonna have to look 562 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:25,818 at a lot of things very closely. 563 00:23:25,852 --> 00:23:27,751 We're gonna have to look at the mosques. 564 00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:30,616 We're gonna have to look very, very carefully. 565 00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:32,997 - He said look, he said carefully. 566 00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:34,585 Now when Walker reports this, 567 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:36,242 what he says that Trump says, 568 00:23:36,276 --> 00:23:40,280 he says, "He wouldn't rule it out." 569 00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:43,076 Then it becomes, "He calls for the creation 570 00:23:43,111 --> 00:23:44,353 "of a national database." 571 00:23:44,388 --> 00:23:46,666 And this expression shows up on CNN. 572 00:23:46,701 --> 00:23:48,979 It shows up on the cover of New York Times. 573 00:23:49,013 --> 00:23:50,739 The fascinating thing is how they seem 574 00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:52,603 to play a game of telephone. 575 00:23:52,638 --> 00:23:55,641 Of taking not just what Trump says and twisting it, 576 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:57,643 but they'll take what each other of them say 577 00:23:57,677 --> 00:23:59,679 that Trump said and they'll add details, 578 00:23:59,714 --> 00:24:00,991 and Donald Trump again and again 579 00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:02,751 says I didn't say that, that's false. 580 00:24:02,786 --> 00:24:03,787 This is ridiculous. 581 00:24:03,821 --> 00:24:05,996 I didn't start it, a reporter suggested it. 582 00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,274 Did they apologize? 583 00:24:08,308 --> 00:24:10,310 Did they at any point say, "You know what? 584 00:24:10,345 --> 00:24:13,037 "We want to go back over some of these stories we said, 585 00:24:13,072 --> 00:24:17,007 "whether they're about religion or Mexicans, or you know." 586 00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:18,664 Let's do a tally of how many of these things 587 00:24:18,698 --> 00:24:20,459 we kind of twisted out of proportion. 588 00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:22,219 No, they're more interested in 589 00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:26,050 people tripping up on words rather than events. 590 00:24:26,085 --> 00:24:27,811 All kinds of things happen in the world. 591 00:24:27,845 --> 00:24:29,606 Alarming important urgent things. 592 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,055 People die, people are dying. 593 00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:33,644 Serious things are happening and instead, 594 00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:35,301 the sad state of the media is 595 00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:36,509 what are they obsessed with? 596 00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:38,166 What is their number one concern? 597 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,512 It's Twitter. 598 00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,894 - I'm fascinated that the media is obsessed 599 00:24:41,928 --> 00:24:43,792 with whatever little white lie 600 00:24:43,827 --> 00:24:45,863 they think that I told on Twitter. 601 00:24:46,761 --> 00:24:48,901 How many people are dying because of 602 00:24:48,935 --> 00:24:50,903 whatever they view as being untrue, 603 00:24:50,937 --> 00:24:52,352 as being said by me? 604 00:24:52,387 --> 00:24:53,906 Now let's compare body counts. 605 00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:56,667 I'll gladly compare. 606 00:24:56,702 --> 00:24:59,808 They would have to frame me for body counts and shootings. 607 00:24:59,843 --> 00:25:01,845 As they did with the Pizzagate thing. 608 00:25:01,879 --> 00:25:03,087 I don't have to frame them. 609 00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:05,365 I just have to talk about what they've done. 610 00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:14,133 - I measure things in terms of head count. 611 00:25:15,721 --> 00:25:18,102 The biggest head count of fake news is communism as a whole. 612 00:25:20,795 --> 00:25:25,385 Reasonable estimates are close to 100 million dead 613 00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:28,492 just in the 20th Century from Communism alone. 614 00:25:29,942 --> 00:25:33,048 There are a brutal number of fake news stories 615 00:25:33,083 --> 00:25:36,569 covering up the hideous nature of Communism, 616 00:25:36,604 --> 00:25:40,090 and given that the facts are so easily available, 617 00:25:40,124 --> 00:25:42,748 given that the data is so easily available, 618 00:25:42,782 --> 00:25:45,716 I really do more than question. 619 00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:48,581 I have nothing but bottomless contempt 620 00:25:48,616 --> 00:25:50,065 for the people who covered this stuff up. 621 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,067 Because they are aiding abetting 622 00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:54,587 some of the greatest genocides in human history. 623 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,590 And we know that Walter Duranty of the New York Times, 624 00:25:57,625 --> 00:25:58,798 well he got a Pulitzer 625 00:25:58,833 --> 00:26:01,698 for his reporting on the Potemkin villages under Stalin. 626 00:26:01,732 --> 00:26:02,733 When he was toured around, and oh, 627 00:26:02,768 --> 00:26:04,148 look at these fat happy workers. 628 00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:06,703 And they were just taken out of the gulags, 629 00:26:06,737 --> 00:26:07,945 stuffed full of chicken, 630 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:10,327 and thrown in front of his eyeballs. 631 00:26:14,538 --> 00:26:15,953 - At the Holodomor. 632 00:26:15,988 --> 00:26:18,922 One of the unbelievable brutal and overlooked 633 00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,096 genocides in many ways. 634 00:26:21,131 --> 00:26:24,617 So, this is typically the way that it works. 635 00:26:24,652 --> 00:26:25,618 In a free market, 636 00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:26,757 resources tend to accrue 637 00:26:26,792 --> 00:26:28,794 to the people who are the most competent. 638 00:26:28,828 --> 00:26:30,485 And that's better for everyone. 639 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,142 Because you want to have enough to eat. 640 00:26:32,176 --> 00:26:35,007 So you want the land to end up 641 00:26:35,041 --> 00:26:37,319 under the control of the most productive people. 642 00:26:37,354 --> 00:26:39,321 But the Communists come along and say, 643 00:26:39,356 --> 00:26:40,909 okay, you're working for this guy, 644 00:26:40,944 --> 00:26:42,670 not 'cause he's smarter or works harder 645 00:26:42,704 --> 00:26:45,431 or takes more risks or studies more, 646 00:26:45,465 --> 00:26:47,813 but because he's exploited you. 647 00:26:47,847 --> 00:26:49,469 He has stolen from you, 648 00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:51,644 and we're gonna get back what is yours. 649 00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:52,852 We're gonna get back that land, 650 00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:54,923 and we're gonna split it up among you. 651 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:56,787 So what they did was they went into the Ukraine, 652 00:26:56,822 --> 00:26:58,927 which was formerly called the bread basket of Europe. 653 00:26:58,962 --> 00:27:00,964 The soil is so rich. 654 00:27:00,998 --> 00:27:03,000 I mean, it's just astonishing. 655 00:27:03,035 --> 00:27:04,553 And what they did was they took the land 656 00:27:04,588 --> 00:27:06,486 from the most productive people called the bourgeois. 657 00:27:06,521 --> 00:27:08,281 the cu lacks, the most productive farmers, 658 00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:10,974 and then they shot or imprisoned 659 00:27:11,008 --> 00:27:12,527 or drove off those farmers. 660 00:27:12,561 --> 00:27:14,702 The starvation that resulted, 661 00:27:14,736 --> 00:27:16,876 I mean, unbelievably horrifying stuff. 662 00:27:31,166 --> 00:27:32,512 This was all covered up. 663 00:27:32,547 --> 00:27:33,686 The reports were coming out. 664 00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:34,687 Just the reports were coming out 665 00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:35,688 about the Holocaust. 666 00:27:35,723 --> 00:27:36,862 The reports were coming out, 667 00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:38,242 but they did not examine it 668 00:27:38,277 --> 00:27:39,554 as much as they should have, 669 00:27:39,588 --> 00:27:40,486 and millions of millions of people 670 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,695 starved to death as a result. 671 00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:45,525 And that helped stretch out the Communist regime 672 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,596 for another couple of decades, 673 00:27:47,631 --> 00:27:50,220 and it helped to spread the Communist regime 674 00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:51,911 to other places in the world. 675 00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:54,500 North Korea, Cambodia, China. 676 00:27:54,534 --> 00:27:56,019 You know, there was a time when 677 00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:58,815 a third of the planet was under Communist dictatorship. 678 00:27:58,849 --> 00:28:01,024 That had a lot to do with the intellectuals 679 00:28:01,058 --> 00:28:04,544 who came across and spewed the propaganda they were fed. 680 00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:06,029 And they were happy to do it because 681 00:28:06,063 --> 00:28:07,858 they wanted to save the system, 682 00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:10,585 not deal with the facts. 683 00:28:15,107 --> 00:28:16,418 There are still people out there 684 00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:18,006 with Karl Marx buttons. 685 00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:19,387 You know, you try wearing a Hitler button. 686 00:28:19,421 --> 00:28:21,182 Hitler's head count was far lower than Communism. 687 00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:22,873 You go out there with a Karl Marx button, 688 00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:25,082 and people are like, oh that's edgy. 689 00:28:25,117 --> 00:28:27,844 Or you know, Che Guevara T shirt. 690 00:28:27,878 --> 00:28:32,883 And this proselytizing and pumping up of Communism 691 00:28:34,057 --> 00:28:35,023 that happens, and we've seen this recently. 692 00:28:35,058 --> 00:28:37,370 Women had better sex lives in Soviet Russia. 693 00:28:37,405 --> 00:28:39,476 I mean, like okay, so sure. 694 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,891 It's 100 million death count, 695 00:28:40,926 --> 00:28:42,928 but at least I get a toe-clenching orgasm out of it. 696 00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:46,103 It's like, that's horrifying, and horrible. 697 00:28:46,138 --> 00:28:47,898 Kind of weighing in the balance. 698 00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,970 The fact that North Korea started as Communist state 699 00:28:51,005 --> 00:28:52,869 is very much overlooked. 700 00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:54,871 They had put these Potemkin villages out there 701 00:28:54,905 --> 00:28:56,113 in North Korea as well, 702 00:28:56,148 --> 00:28:57,908 where you've got these happy peasants 703 00:28:57,943 --> 00:28:59,289 who you see smiling and so on 704 00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:00,911 because they get shot if the don't. 705 00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:04,259 - We traveled about four hours east of Pyongyang 706 00:29:04,294 --> 00:29:05,985 to visit a ski resort. 707 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:08,229 We were also invited here, I would suspect, 708 00:29:08,263 --> 00:29:11,335 because it is not what people expect to see 709 00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:12,647 in North Korea. 710 00:29:12,681 --> 00:29:15,063 A modern ski resort. 711 00:29:15,098 --> 00:29:17,514 It's got patriotic music and videos 712 00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:18,791 playing from a screen here, 713 00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:21,173 and a lot of families out enjoying themselves. 714 00:29:22,622 --> 00:29:24,901 - And the reason why it's so sinister, 715 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:26,695 which you've talked about before, Mike, 716 00:29:26,730 --> 00:29:28,111 is that they want us dead. 717 00:29:29,008 --> 00:29:31,700 If you openly cover up for a regime, 718 00:29:31,735 --> 00:29:33,116 that the first people targeted 719 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:34,807 are people like you and me. 720 00:29:34,842 --> 00:29:38,086 I can't view this as a merely ideological dispute. 721 00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:41,538 This is not an academic difference in opinion, 722 00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:44,990 because if the system that they want gets in power, 723 00:29:45,024 --> 00:29:47,509 myself, my friends, my family, everything, 724 00:29:47,544 --> 00:29:49,166 will be the first to go. 725 00:29:52,411 --> 00:29:53,792 - Read all about it. 726 00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:55,000 Latest football scores. 727 00:29:56,311 --> 00:29:58,451 Morning paper, morning star. 728 00:29:58,486 --> 00:29:59,728 Paper, mister? 729 00:29:59,763 --> 00:30:02,110 - Your daily newspaper. 730 00:30:02,145 --> 00:30:04,112 Well, this is familiar. 731 00:30:04,147 --> 00:30:05,976 Most of us read a paper every day. 732 00:30:07,184 --> 00:30:10,291 - The golden age of American journalism in the 50s 733 00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:12,672 is sort of a myth. 734 00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:19,196 Perpetuated by Hollywood and maybe journalists themselves, 735 00:30:20,749 --> 00:30:22,406 but it was golden in some ways. 736 00:30:22,441 --> 00:30:25,893 They were hard hitting reporters out investigating, 737 00:30:25,927 --> 00:30:28,171 trying to break big stories. 738 00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:32,037 And that image of a disheveled reporter 739 00:30:32,071 --> 00:30:35,143 who wants to get the story no matter what, 740 00:30:35,178 --> 00:30:38,077 in some way, is representative of reality. 741 00:30:38,112 --> 00:30:40,217 They did publish hard hitting stories. 742 00:30:40,252 --> 00:30:45,222 And print was king 'cause TV was just baby stages. 743 00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:48,881 And there was a norm of objectivity then. 744 00:30:48,916 --> 00:30:52,851 Editorial stayed on the editorial pages, very much. 745 00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:56,889 And the news tended to be very balanced, 746 00:30:56,924 --> 00:30:58,546 and very fact-driven. 747 00:30:58,580 --> 00:30:59,996 - The editorial writer must be able 748 00:31:00,030 --> 00:31:01,929 to write on many subjects. 749 00:31:01,963 --> 00:31:03,896 But instead of merely reporting news, 750 00:31:03,931 --> 00:31:06,588 he analyzes it and explains its meaning, 751 00:31:06,623 --> 00:31:09,108 often expressing his personal opinions. 752 00:31:09,143 --> 00:31:11,939 He must reason accurately and fairly, 753 00:31:11,973 --> 00:31:13,906 and write in an interesting manner. 754 00:31:13,941 --> 00:31:16,736 - There was also a different culture at the time 755 00:31:16,771 --> 00:31:20,223 which was that objective truth does exist. 756 00:31:20,257 --> 00:31:22,570 And that there are consequences for lying 757 00:31:22,604 --> 00:31:24,917 and doing this in the afterlife. 758 00:31:24,952 --> 00:31:29,957 Journalists, whether they were practicing Christians or not, 759 00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:32,235 brought in this American ethic, 760 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:36,653 which included God, absolute truth, 761 00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:39,621 also this idea that yes, there are objective facts 762 00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:42,245 that we can find and report. 763 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,937 - To be successful today, 764 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:47,422 a newspaper must contain all the elements 765 00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:51,668 of the best journalism to fill the needs 766 00:31:51,702 --> 00:31:53,325 of modern newspaper readers. 767 00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:58,813 But beyond that, it must inspire complete confidence 768 00:31:58,847 --> 00:32:00,159 in its integrity. 769 00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:03,335 - One of the key bits of information 770 00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:05,440 is a study that I did 771 00:32:05,475 --> 00:32:08,512 that fits right into the golden age of journalism 772 00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:11,101 that looks at American newspaper editorials 773 00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:14,104 from 1958 to 1970. 774 00:32:14,139 --> 00:32:15,485 And so starting in 58, 775 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,350 I found that all of these papers 776 00:32:18,384 --> 00:32:20,697 leaned a little bit to the right. 777 00:32:22,526 --> 00:32:23,458 Surprise. 778 00:32:25,012 --> 00:32:26,599 But between 58 and 70, 779 00:32:26,634 --> 00:32:31,639 there was a dramatic shift to the left, much more so. 780 00:32:32,812 --> 00:32:35,539 And I mean, it is almost a straight line 781 00:32:35,574 --> 00:32:38,128 and showed no signs of changing. 782 00:32:38,163 --> 00:32:43,168 And informally, I looked at some contemporary 783 00:32:43,858 --> 00:32:45,170 editorials the same way 784 00:32:45,204 --> 00:32:47,137 from some of those major papers. 785 00:32:48,207 --> 00:32:50,347 And found them up there. 786 00:32:50,382 --> 00:32:54,317 And so we see this shift during that time in the 60s 787 00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:58,183 to a much more liberal orientation. 788 00:32:58,217 --> 00:33:02,118 Additionally, the way the editorials were crafted changed, 789 00:33:02,152 --> 00:33:04,189 which I think reflects a change 790 00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:07,502 in the news culture and the culture of the country. 791 00:33:09,366 --> 00:33:11,196 In the late 50s, we found, 792 00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:13,198 even if they leaned one way, 793 00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,200 or supported one policy, 794 00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:20,239 they still offered a healthy clash of those issues. 795 00:33:21,447 --> 00:33:23,311 And so you kind of got both sides. 796 00:33:23,346 --> 00:33:26,176 And you had room to disagree. 797 00:33:27,212 --> 00:33:32,217 As we progress further to 1970, that stops, 798 00:33:33,701 --> 00:33:38,188 and it becomes more polemic and less an argument. 799 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:46,334 I think one of the main considerations for that change 800 00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:48,267 was the cultural revolution. 801 00:33:52,271 --> 00:33:54,929 We start to see a new generation 802 00:33:54,963 --> 00:33:56,758 coming into power. 803 00:33:56,793 --> 00:34:00,141 And we now have the creation of a liberal environment. 804 00:34:01,487 --> 00:34:05,974 And let's not forget some of the formative documents 805 00:34:06,009 --> 00:34:08,460 that came out of Students for a Democratic Society 806 00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:10,807 in the early 60s. 807 00:34:10,841 --> 00:34:13,775 And they quite clearly stated that 808 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:16,606 student progressives needed to move in 809 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,058 to the major institutions of this country 810 00:34:20,092 --> 00:34:22,094 to affect change. 811 00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:23,475 - We're gonna be in the streets 812 00:34:23,509 --> 00:34:25,580 and in every institution in this country from now on. 813 00:34:25,615 --> 00:34:27,410 - The media, the news media, 814 00:34:27,444 --> 00:34:30,413 was one of those institutions that was targeted. 815 00:34:30,447 --> 00:34:32,587 - We're gonna replace capitalism with socialism. 816 00:34:32,622 --> 00:34:37,420 - There was also some dissatisfaction 817 00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:40,388 with the federal government in terms of 818 00:34:40,423 --> 00:34:42,010 its forthrightness with what was 819 00:34:42,045 --> 00:34:44,427 going on in Vietnam. 820 00:34:44,461 --> 00:34:47,395 As trust was lost, 821 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:49,466 there was more willingness to oppose. 822 00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:52,297 So it was many factors engaging. 823 00:34:52,331 --> 00:34:55,300 And now it's gone all the way now. 824 00:34:56,473 --> 00:34:58,682 - For we are opposed around the world 825 00:34:58,717 --> 00:35:02,272 by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy 826 00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:05,344 that relies primarily on covet means. 827 00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:07,933 For expanding its sphere of influence. 828 00:35:07,967 --> 00:35:10,349 - We have been compelled to create a permanent 829 00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:13,180 ominous industry of vast proportions. 830 00:35:13,214 --> 00:35:16,148 - It is a system which has conscripted 831 00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:19,151 vast human and material resources 832 00:35:19,186 --> 00:35:21,429 into the building of a tightly knit, 833 00:35:21,464 --> 00:35:23,604 highly efficient machine 834 00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:26,883 that combines military, diplomatic, 835 00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:30,024 intelligence, economic, scientific, 836 00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:31,508 and political operations. 837 00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:34,062 - We must guard against the acquisition 838 00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:35,719 of unwarranted influence, 839 00:35:35,754 --> 00:35:37,652 whether sought or unsought, 840 00:35:37,687 --> 00:35:40,897 by the military industrial complex. 841 00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:44,452 - Its preparations are concealed, not published. 842 00:35:44,487 --> 00:35:47,559 Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. 843 00:35:47,593 --> 00:35:50,976 Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. 844 00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:54,186 - Only an alert and knowledgeable citizen 845 00:35:54,221 --> 00:35:56,533 can compel the proper meshing 846 00:35:56,568 --> 00:35:58,708 of the huge industrial and military 847 00:35:58,742 --> 00:36:00,503 machinery of defense, 848 00:36:00,537 --> 00:36:03,195 with our peaceful methods and goals. 849 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:05,577 - And so it is to the printing press, 850 00:36:05,611 --> 00:36:08,096 to the recorder of man's deeds, 851 00:36:08,131 --> 00:36:11,548 that we look for strength and assistance. 852 00:36:11,583 --> 00:36:13,861 Confident that with your help, 853 00:36:13,895 --> 00:36:16,898 man will be what he was born to be, 854 00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:18,106 free and independent. 855 00:36:27,357 --> 00:36:32,224 - I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. 856 00:36:32,259 --> 00:36:34,433 They took the babies out of the incubators. 857 00:36:37,919 --> 00:36:40,232 Took the incubators, and left the children 858 00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,061 to die on the cold floor. 859 00:36:42,096 --> 00:36:43,718 - Babies pulled from incubators 860 00:36:43,753 --> 00:36:46,549 and scattered like firewood across the floor. 861 00:36:47,481 --> 00:36:49,241 And they were thrown out of the incubators 862 00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:53,383 so that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled. 863 00:36:53,418 --> 00:36:54,522 - It was horrifying. 864 00:36:54,557 --> 00:36:57,456 - This war may be beginning right now. 865 00:36:57,491 --> 00:37:00,804 - Two hours ago, allied air forces began an attack 866 00:37:00,839 --> 00:37:03,704 on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait. 867 00:37:03,738 --> 00:37:05,326 - The inevitable has happened. 868 00:37:08,743 --> 00:37:11,263 - A woman testified before Congress 869 00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:13,955 that Iraqi soldiers had gone into the nursery 870 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:15,578 of a Kuwaiti hospital, 871 00:37:15,612 --> 00:37:16,924 and they were taking babies, 872 00:37:16,958 --> 00:37:18,615 and lifting them out of the incubators, 873 00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:21,411 and throwing them onto the ground and smashing them. 874 00:37:21,446 --> 00:37:23,137 This is a horrific visual. 875 00:37:23,171 --> 00:37:25,243 And public sentiment was against 876 00:37:25,277 --> 00:37:27,452 the first war in Iraq, 877 00:37:27,486 --> 00:37:29,937 until that very important testimony 878 00:37:29,971 --> 00:37:32,319 was spread far and wide. 879 00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:34,631 Well as it turns out, 880 00:37:34,666 --> 00:37:36,737 she was actually the daughter 881 00:37:36,771 --> 00:37:38,497 of one of the crown prince's of Kuwait. 882 00:37:38,532 --> 00:37:40,465 It's a completely fabricated story 883 00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:43,330 that had been orchestrated by a major PR firm. 884 00:37:43,364 --> 00:37:45,297 They had spent millions of dollars on it, 885 00:37:45,332 --> 00:37:47,195 and it was completely fake. 886 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:49,577 But the media would incredulously spread that. 887 00:37:49,612 --> 00:37:54,617 They give amplification to a message that they like. 888 00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:57,136 And then if that message turns out to be false, 889 00:37:57,171 --> 00:37:59,484 they say, well all we do is report the news. 890 00:37:59,518 --> 00:38:01,279 Even though you chose to report that, though. 891 00:38:01,313 --> 00:38:02,694 You chose to amplify that. 892 00:38:02,728 --> 00:38:06,905 You chose to splice that clip and air it non-stop. 893 00:38:08,665 --> 00:38:12,220 - Fool me once, shame on, 894 00:38:14,188 --> 00:38:15,293 shame on you. 895 00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:16,673 - Every statement I make today 896 00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:18,226 is backed up by sources. 897 00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:19,676 Solid sources. 898 00:38:19,711 --> 00:38:21,678 - Fool me, you can't get fooled again. 899 00:38:25,544 --> 00:38:29,203 - So the second war in Iraq was also based on a lie 900 00:38:29,237 --> 00:38:31,550 propagated by the New York Times. 901 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:33,172 - Iraq has made several attempts 902 00:38:33,207 --> 00:38:35,174 to buy high strength aluminum tubes 903 00:38:35,209 --> 00:38:38,074 used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. 904 00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:39,972 - The kinds of tubes that are necessary 905 00:38:40,007 --> 00:38:41,560 to build a centrifuge. 906 00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:43,355 - First of all, the New York Times was not alone. 907 00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:45,806 Almost every paper in the country 908 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,084 was reporting this, and network. 909 00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:49,706 There was a consensus. 910 00:38:49,741 --> 00:38:52,364 - I think what I did wrong was 911 00:38:52,399 --> 00:38:54,987 I wasn't permitted by my paper to go back 912 00:38:55,022 --> 00:38:57,921 and look at those stories when we had more information. 913 00:38:57,956 --> 00:39:00,476 - One person might say, Cernovich, you're wrong. 914 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:02,719 All the media did was report on information 915 00:39:02,754 --> 00:39:04,687 given to them by the government. 916 00:39:04,721 --> 00:39:06,896 And I would say, well that's fascinating. 917 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,588 You must think that I don't have a very good memory, 918 00:39:09,623 --> 00:39:12,350 because when I read Twitter today, 919 00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:13,523 and I read a paper today, 920 00:39:13,558 --> 00:39:15,698 they say you can't trust Trump. 921 00:39:15,732 --> 00:39:16,906 He's such a liar. 922 00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:18,528 You can't trust the government. 923 00:39:18,563 --> 00:39:21,220 Our job as journalists is to fight against the government. 924 00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:22,532 I see that every day. 925 00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:24,396 But if there's a war, 926 00:39:24,431 --> 00:39:25,949 we just accept everything as true. 927 00:39:25,984 --> 00:39:28,435 - And it is our duty as loyal Americans 928 00:39:28,469 --> 00:39:30,954 to shut up once the fighting begins. 929 00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:35,580 - We entered the 50th anniversary of the Vietnam war. 930 00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:37,444 - My fellow Americans. 931 00:39:37,478 --> 00:39:38,755 - The Gulf of Tonkin incident 932 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:41,309 was the basis for the War in Vietnam, 933 00:39:41,344 --> 00:39:44,796 which cost between 50 and 75,000 American lives. 934 00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:46,694 Many peoples lives were ruined. 935 00:39:46,729 --> 00:39:48,800 Mental illnesses, PTSD. 936 00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:51,561 Well that was another lie. 937 00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:54,081 Let's look at, we got three big wars in America. 938 00:39:54,115 --> 00:39:55,738 You see a lot of lies. 939 00:39:55,772 --> 00:39:57,705 So where is the soul searching 940 00:39:57,740 --> 00:39:59,742 by these large mainstream outlets? 941 00:39:59,776 --> 00:40:00,846 I would like to see that. 942 00:40:04,712 --> 00:40:05,817 - If you look at the mainstream media, 943 00:40:05,851 --> 00:40:07,715 they are in lock stead with either 944 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:09,579 the Pentagon or the State Department. 945 00:40:09,614 --> 00:40:12,444 Or officials that clearly do have an agenda. 946 00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:14,584 It's a self sustaining relationship. 947 00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:16,586 Any empire, any corporation, 948 00:40:16,621 --> 00:40:18,623 any person knows that the only thing 949 00:40:18,657 --> 00:40:20,935 that could ever take them down is the truth. 950 00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:28,218 - Do you have any people being paid 951 00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:34,224 by the CIA who are contributing 952 00:40:35,674 --> 00:40:39,678 to a major circulation, American Journal? 953 00:40:39,713 --> 00:40:41,991 - We do have people who submit pieces 954 00:40:42,025 --> 00:40:43,993 to American Journal. 955 00:40:45,304 --> 00:40:48,273 - Fake corporate news media is nothing new. 956 00:40:48,307 --> 00:40:49,792 It's just more financed today. 957 00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:51,587 A lot bigger, a lot slicker. 958 00:40:51,621 --> 00:40:54,624 Back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, 959 00:40:54,659 --> 00:40:56,523 there was Project Mockingbird 960 00:40:56,557 --> 00:40:59,180 that Senator Frank Church's committee exposed. 961 00:40:59,215 --> 00:41:01,010 Where the CIA and other agencies 962 00:41:01,044 --> 00:41:03,530 had key people throughout positions 963 00:41:03,564 --> 00:41:06,774 in the mainstream media to put out fake news, 964 00:41:06,809 --> 00:41:09,605 or to kill stories when they needed it done. 965 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:13,816 - They infiltrated high ranking media organizations 966 00:41:13,850 --> 00:41:15,473 all around the United States. 967 00:41:15,507 --> 00:41:17,820 And were working not only with them, 968 00:41:17,854 --> 00:41:20,961 but reporting as if they were neutral journalists. 969 00:41:20,995 --> 00:41:23,791 When they were pushing an agenda. 970 00:41:23,826 --> 00:41:24,861 - The planted story is intended 971 00:41:24,896 --> 00:41:27,105 to serve a national purpose abroad, 972 00:41:28,347 --> 00:41:33,214 came home and were circulated here, 973 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:35,147 and believed here. 974 00:41:35,182 --> 00:41:36,908 - Operation Mockingbird should make everyone 975 00:41:36,942 --> 00:41:40,877 think twice about the news and information 976 00:41:40,912 --> 00:41:41,878 and where it comes from, 977 00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:44,502 and how it could be weaponized against you, 978 00:41:44,536 --> 00:41:45,986 which I think is happening right now 979 00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:47,850 at a very severe level. 980 00:41:47,884 --> 00:41:50,542 - And now, we have Jeff Bezos, 981 00:41:50,577 --> 00:41:52,510 one of the richest men in the world, 982 00:41:52,544 --> 00:41:55,098 close to 100 billion dollars in wealth, 983 00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:57,860 with his oligopoly Amazon, 984 00:41:57,894 --> 00:42:02,450 getting 600 million dollar contract from the CIA 985 00:42:02,485 --> 00:42:05,902 to house their servers while he uses 986 00:42:05,937 --> 00:42:08,422 the Washington Post that he owns 987 00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:11,839 as a warfare machine against President Trump 988 00:42:11,874 --> 00:42:13,427 and the American people. 989 00:42:13,461 --> 00:42:16,188 - I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, 990 00:42:16,223 --> 00:42:17,707 by the CIA. 991 00:42:17,742 --> 00:42:19,882 - This one great German journalist came out and said, 992 00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:21,677 yeah, the CIA wrote headlines for me. 993 00:42:21,711 --> 00:42:22,885 They told me what to say. 994 00:42:22,919 --> 00:42:24,852 - There's many countries where this happens. 995 00:42:24,887 --> 00:42:28,925 Where you find people to claim 996 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,962 they are respected journalists, 997 00:42:30,996 --> 00:42:32,619 but if you look behind them, 998 00:42:32,653 --> 00:42:35,622 you'll find they are puppets on a string 999 00:42:35,656 --> 00:42:37,865 of the Central Intelligence Agency. 1000 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:40,627 - Obama signed a Ministry of Truth into action 1001 00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:44,320 before he left, to use US intelligence agencies 1002 00:42:44,354 --> 00:42:45,804 against the American people. 1003 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:47,323 - Now critics argue the act allows 1004 00:42:47,357 --> 00:42:50,602 the US government to censor some news as propaganda, 1005 00:42:50,637 --> 00:42:52,742 and push government agenda, in other words, 1006 00:42:52,777 --> 00:42:55,469 government propaganda, on the US citizens, 1007 00:42:55,503 --> 00:42:57,609 usually by way of labeling inconvenient 1008 00:42:57,644 --> 00:42:59,715 stories as fake news. 1009 00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:01,509 - Propaganda is now legal. 1010 00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:03,304 Yes, legal, not illegal. 1011 00:43:03,339 --> 00:43:05,272 It used to be illegal, 1012 00:43:05,306 --> 00:43:08,965 according to a 1940 law, Smith, Month, Act, 1013 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,001 something like that. 1014 00:43:10,035 --> 00:43:11,174 - Because three years ago, 1015 00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,211 wrapped inside the 2013 NDAA 1016 00:43:14,488 --> 00:43:16,317 was an amendment that removed the ban 1017 00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:17,905 on the US government, 1018 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:20,908 creating propaganda, and then showing it to US citizens. 1019 00:43:20,943 --> 00:43:22,945 - A lot of people who claim that they're journalists, 1020 00:43:22,979 --> 00:43:24,118 they're just repeaters. 1021 00:43:24,153 --> 00:43:25,361 They get a press release, 1022 00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:26,983 and they just rewrite the press release. 1023 00:43:27,018 --> 00:43:28,985 - I was actually able to uncover something 1024 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:33,990 that really made me feel defrauded as a journalist. 1025 00:43:34,025 --> 00:43:36,510 Not only our sources, we found out that Bahrain 1026 00:43:36,544 --> 00:43:38,857 is a paying customer at CNN. 1027 00:43:38,892 --> 00:43:41,826 They've also produced similar content for Georgia, 1028 00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,829 Kazakhstan, and other nations as well, Lebanon. 1029 00:43:44,863 --> 00:43:46,658 - Look, if CNN's corporate bosses 1030 00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:49,557 want to worship dictatorships, that's their right. 1031 00:43:49,592 --> 00:43:52,560 But when they're getting paid by the dictatorships to do it, 1032 00:43:52,595 --> 00:43:54,804 in my view, that's criminal, 1033 00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:56,806 and it's downright anti-American. 1034 00:43:56,841 --> 00:43:59,084 - I was accused of leaking secrets of states. 1035 00:44:01,052 --> 00:44:03,157 Six times, house searched. 1036 00:44:04,676 --> 00:44:08,991 Well, they hoped that I wouldn't do that ever again. 1037 00:44:09,025 --> 00:44:10,578 I don't mind what will happen. 1038 00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:13,892 I've had three heart attacks, I have no children. 1039 00:44:13,927 --> 00:44:16,999 So if they want to bring me to court or to prison, 1040 00:44:17,033 --> 00:44:19,449 so it's worth for the truth. 1041 00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:24,351 The truth won't die. 1042 00:44:27,009 --> 00:44:28,424 - Decades ago, it used to be the case 1043 00:44:28,458 --> 00:44:31,807 that news divisions did their investigative reporting, 1044 00:44:31,841 --> 00:44:33,153 operating in a loss. 1045 00:44:33,187 --> 00:44:34,913 They did so in the public interest. 1046 00:44:34,948 --> 00:44:36,812 That's gone by the wayside. 1047 00:44:36,846 --> 00:44:39,677 These days, news organizations do specifically 1048 00:44:39,711 --> 00:44:41,989 what behooves their bottom line. 1049 00:44:42,024 --> 00:44:44,612 Hi, my name is James O'Keefe. 1050 00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:45,993 I'm from Project Veritas. 1051 00:44:46,028 --> 00:44:48,271 Project Veritas started with the mission 1052 00:44:48,306 --> 00:44:50,688 of investigating, exposing waste, fraud, 1053 00:44:50,722 --> 00:44:53,518 abuse, corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, 1054 00:44:53,552 --> 00:44:56,176 in order to make a more ethical and transparent society. 1055 00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:58,385 In order to do that, we have to go undercover 1056 00:44:58,419 --> 00:45:00,387 because a lot of these people are not gonna tell us 1057 00:45:00,421 --> 00:45:01,940 on the record what's happening. 1058 00:45:01,975 --> 00:45:03,528 - One story has monopolized 1059 00:45:03,562 --> 00:45:06,393 President Trump's time in office like no other. 1060 00:45:06,427 --> 00:45:08,533 Especially on CNN. 1061 00:45:08,567 --> 00:45:09,707 Russia. 1062 00:45:09,741 --> 00:45:11,122 In fact, since the inauguration, 1063 00:45:11,156 --> 00:45:14,090 CNN has mentioned Russia on their air 1064 00:45:14,125 --> 00:45:16,921 nearly 16,000 times. 1065 00:45:16,955 --> 00:45:19,924 So we sent our undercover reporters inside CNN 1066 00:45:19,958 --> 00:45:22,064 to understand why. 1067 00:45:22,098 --> 00:45:24,307 - Then why is CNN constantly like, 1068 00:45:24,342 --> 00:45:26,413 Russia this, Russia that? 1069 00:45:26,447 --> 00:45:27,725 - Because it's ratings. 1070 00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:29,243 - If it's all just because of ratings, 1071 00:45:29,278 --> 00:45:31,487 if it's all just for money, 1072 00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:36,457 if his own staff, more than one person thinks that it's BS. 1073 00:45:36,492 --> 00:45:38,908 - The Russia thing is just a big nothing burger. 1074 00:45:38,943 --> 00:45:39,737 - Really? 1075 00:45:39,771 --> 00:45:40,910 - Yeah. 1076 00:45:40,945 --> 00:45:41,980 - It's mostly bullshit right now. 1077 00:45:42,015 --> 00:45:46,778 Like, we don't have any big giant proof. 1078 00:45:46,813 --> 00:45:50,230 - And they're doing it in order to make money only. 1079 00:45:50,264 --> 00:45:52,404 - All the nice cutesy little ethics 1080 00:45:52,439 --> 00:45:54,613 that used to get talked about in journalism school, 1081 00:45:54,648 --> 00:45:57,133 you're just like, that's adorable. 1082 00:45:58,514 --> 00:45:59,618 That's adorable. 1083 00:46:02,035 --> 00:46:03,415 Yeah, this is a business. 1084 00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:04,934 - That's something the American people need to see. 1085 00:46:04,969 --> 00:46:07,247 I'm not making a value judgment about it. 1086 00:46:07,281 --> 00:46:09,180 But that's information that people need to see. 1087 00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,354 And that's the real, the heart of the matter is 1088 00:46:11,389 --> 00:46:13,011 journalism is about exposing things 1089 00:46:13,046 --> 00:46:14,185 for what they really are. 1090 00:46:14,219 --> 00:46:16,843 And there's a lot of powerful interests 1091 00:46:16,877 --> 00:46:19,121 that do not want things exposed 1092 00:46:19,155 --> 00:46:20,985 for how they actually are. 1093 00:46:21,019 --> 00:46:22,331 - People go in the media. 1094 00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:24,367 Journalists, would be journalists, would say, 1095 00:46:24,402 --> 00:46:26,473 Cernovich, you just want clicks. 1096 00:46:26,507 --> 00:46:28,371 All you care about is page views. 1097 00:46:28,406 --> 00:46:31,133 These are the people who live and die by ratings. 1098 00:46:31,167 --> 00:46:33,825 These are the people who the minute the show's over, 1099 00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:36,690 they're waiting for the ratings to be uploaded. 1100 00:46:36,724 --> 00:46:38,726 If there's a way to start a war, 1101 00:46:38,761 --> 00:46:41,660 and get America involved in another major massive war, 1102 00:46:41,695 --> 00:46:43,731 all the media companies stand to make a lot of money. 1103 00:46:43,766 --> 00:46:45,112 Nobody talks about that. 1104 00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:46,838 For example, when there was a major 1105 00:46:46,873 --> 00:46:48,564 terrorist attack in France, 1106 00:46:49,772 --> 00:46:52,119 the images of dead babies were blurred, 1107 00:46:52,154 --> 00:46:53,534 and we were told by the media 1108 00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:58,125 never show, never show dead children on television. 1109 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,402 This is too horrific. 1110 00:46:59,437 --> 00:47:00,196 This is not what we're about. 1111 00:47:00,231 --> 00:47:01,128 You can't do it. 1112 00:47:01,163 --> 00:47:02,681 This is what we're told, right? 1113 00:47:02,716 --> 00:47:05,167 But then suddenly we have a story 1114 00:47:05,201 --> 00:47:06,340 about Assad gassing his people, 1115 00:47:06,375 --> 00:47:09,136 and a lot of people want war in Syria. 1116 00:47:09,171 --> 00:47:11,035 Well not only do they accept the conclusion 1117 00:47:11,069 --> 00:47:12,415 that Assad gassed his own people 1118 00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:14,176 without any real evidence. 1119 00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:19,043 But now they post images of dead babies on television. 1120 00:47:19,077 --> 00:47:21,873 And in the newspapers, and post those pictures. 1121 00:47:21,908 --> 00:47:26,188 - Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike. 1122 00:47:26,222 --> 00:47:27,499 The President again 1123 00:47:27,534 --> 00:47:30,019 citing the disturbing video of Tuesday's horrific 1124 00:47:30,054 --> 00:47:33,540 chemical attack as a major influence on his decision. 1125 00:47:33,574 --> 00:47:36,198 A dizzying turnaround for an administration 1126 00:47:36,232 --> 00:47:39,339 that just days ago declared that their priority 1127 00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:43,101 was not to oust Syrian President Bashar Al Assad from power. 1128 00:47:43,136 --> 00:47:46,001 - Donald Trump became President of the United States. 1129 00:47:46,035 --> 00:47:47,519 I think this was actually a big moment. 1130 00:47:47,554 --> 00:47:51,109 - The media makes a massive amount of money with wars, 1131 00:47:51,144 --> 00:47:53,077 because then you have nonstop coverage, 1132 00:47:53,111 --> 00:47:55,562 embedded journalists, hot new footage. 1133 00:47:55,596 --> 00:47:57,253 Watch this latest bombing drop. 1134 00:47:57,288 --> 00:47:59,048 Watch this latest fire fight. 1135 00:47:59,083 --> 00:48:01,637 - We see these beautiful pictures at night 1136 00:48:01,671 --> 00:48:05,365 from the decks of these two US Navy vessels 1137 00:48:05,399 --> 00:48:07,608 in the Eastern Mediterranean. 1138 00:48:07,643 --> 00:48:10,611 I am tempted to quote the great Leonard Cohen. 1139 00:48:10,646 --> 00:48:13,062 I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons. 1140 00:48:13,097 --> 00:48:15,547 And they are beautiful pictures. 1141 00:48:15,582 --> 00:48:16,824 - They make a ton of money doing that. 1142 00:48:16,859 --> 00:48:18,654 Not only that, but their parent corporations 1143 00:48:18,688 --> 00:48:20,242 and these media holding companies 1144 00:48:20,276 --> 00:48:23,107 and their shareholders make a ton of money off of war. 1145 00:48:23,141 --> 00:48:24,487 Boeing makes a ton of money. 1146 00:48:24,522 --> 00:48:26,593 Its contractors make a ton of money. 1147 00:48:26,627 --> 00:48:28,077 The lobbyists make a ton of money. 1148 00:48:28,112 --> 00:48:30,252 Because now you have contracts to dole out. 1149 00:48:30,286 --> 00:48:31,667 Nobody talks about this though. 1150 00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:33,151 How does the media make its money? 1151 00:48:33,186 --> 00:48:36,154 - War is never coming from itself. 1152 00:48:36,189 --> 00:48:39,778 There is always people behind it to push for war, 1153 00:48:39,813 --> 00:48:42,160 and this is not only politicians, 1154 00:48:42,195 --> 00:48:43,782 this is journalists too. 1155 00:48:43,817 --> 00:48:45,992 - 'Cause you know there's a lot of job at stake, 1156 00:48:46,026 --> 00:48:48,787 certainly if a lot of these defense contractors 1157 00:48:48,822 --> 00:48:50,858 stop selling war planes, 1158 00:48:50,893 --> 00:48:52,446 other sophisticated equipment, 1159 00:48:52,481 --> 00:48:55,104 there's gonna be a significant loss of jobs. 1160 00:48:55,139 --> 00:48:56,140 - So what they're doing 1161 00:48:56,174 --> 00:48:57,762 is completely dishonest. 1162 00:49:06,322 --> 00:49:08,117 - This is beyond hoax. 1163 00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,464 This is a giant organized fraud. 1164 00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:11,810 - The news is not the news. 1165 00:49:11,845 --> 00:49:13,053 The news is propaganda. 1166 00:49:19,163 --> 00:49:21,268 - Nothing has captured this crisis 1167 00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:24,202 like the picture that we began with last night. 1168 00:49:24,237 --> 00:49:26,204 - His family says his name was Islan, 1169 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,275 and that he and his brother and his mother 1170 00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:30,208 drowned trying to reach Greece by boat. 1171 00:49:31,347 --> 00:49:36,352 - All photographs are rhetoric. 1172 00:49:37,871 --> 00:49:39,459 All photographs are accurate. 1173 00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:41,323 None of them are the truth. 1174 00:49:42,669 --> 00:49:45,637 Let's face it, we don't see the world in a still frame. 1175 00:49:45,672 --> 00:49:47,294 We don't see the world in black and white. 1176 00:49:47,329 --> 00:49:49,641 We don't see the world frozen. 1177 00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:51,712 All photographs are kind of self portraits. 1178 00:49:51,747 --> 00:49:54,715 They're really a reflection of the photographer 1179 00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:56,717 and the editor. 1180 00:49:56,752 --> 00:50:00,549 There's a lot of journalists who get angry when I say that. 1181 00:50:00,583 --> 00:50:02,171 - And tonight, we're gonna spend the program 1182 00:50:02,206 --> 00:50:04,380 looking at the power of that image, 1183 00:50:04,415 --> 00:50:07,176 which has shocked the world, shaken politicians, 1184 00:50:07,211 --> 00:50:09,213 and transformed the debate about refugees 1185 00:50:09,247 --> 00:50:10,248 fleeing from war. 1186 00:50:10,283 --> 00:50:12,595 - If you're listening to a song, 1187 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:13,872 you have to listen to the song. 1188 00:50:13,907 --> 00:50:15,219 You have to at least get to the hook 1189 00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:17,428 before you decide that you think it's a good song. 1190 00:50:17,462 --> 00:50:19,257 Still images don't work that way. 1191 00:50:19,292 --> 00:50:21,742 Still images happen immediately. 1192 00:50:21,777 --> 00:50:23,365 - I just can't look at that without being so upset. 1193 00:50:23,399 --> 00:50:25,953 Like, it just makes me think how lucky, 1194 00:50:25,988 --> 00:50:27,576 lucky I am that I live in Australia, 1195 00:50:27,610 --> 00:50:29,060 that my children live in Australia. 1196 00:50:29,095 --> 00:50:30,337 That's what it means. 1197 00:50:30,372 --> 00:50:31,269 - Yeah. 1198 00:50:31,304 --> 00:50:33,030 - The most persuasive thing is visual, 1199 00:50:33,064 --> 00:50:35,756 our visual sense overpowers everything else. 1200 00:50:35,791 --> 00:50:39,105 So what they choose to show as an image 1201 00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:43,109 is the message no matter what the words on the screen say. 1202 00:50:43,143 --> 00:50:44,386 What you remember is what you saw. 1203 00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:48,873 - The salacious or the shock value of images 1204 00:50:48,907 --> 00:50:51,462 can be used in order to kind of manipulate 1205 00:50:51,496 --> 00:50:54,706 peoples behavior. 1206 00:50:54,741 --> 00:50:56,570 - Dead children are normally taboo, 1207 00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:58,469 especially on the front page. 1208 00:50:58,503 --> 00:51:01,265 But next morning, almost every UK newspaper 1209 00:51:01,299 --> 00:51:04,302 broke the rule and ran an image on the front cover. 1210 00:51:04,337 --> 00:51:05,786 - And if you compare that 1211 00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:11,999 to the bodies in Europe from terrorist attacks, 1212 00:51:12,034 --> 00:51:13,760 some of which committed by 1213 00:51:13,794 --> 00:51:15,520 these migrants or their descendants. 1214 00:51:16,763 --> 00:51:18,937 Those bodies you can't see. 1215 00:51:18,972 --> 00:51:21,285 Showing those bodies can get you censored 1216 00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:22,320 on social media. 1217 00:51:22,355 --> 00:51:24,115 - People still have fears. 1218 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:25,461 Fears that migrants might have 1219 00:51:25,496 --> 00:51:27,291 an ISIS member lurking among them, 1220 00:51:27,325 --> 00:51:29,983 which there has been no credible example of. 1221 00:51:32,537 --> 00:51:35,092 News broke that one of the attackers may have posed 1222 00:51:35,126 --> 00:51:36,645 as a refugee and entered Europe 1223 00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,026 through Greece with a fake Syrian passport. 1224 00:51:39,061 --> 00:51:41,477 - Knowing that you're not seeing those photographs 1225 00:51:41,512 --> 00:51:42,996 should be a tip, right? 1226 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:47,414 It should be a clue. 1227 00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:52,178 - So I had always sensed that the news, 1228 00:51:52,212 --> 00:51:53,317 there was a lot of fake news. 1229 00:51:53,351 --> 00:51:54,697 I'd always sensed it, 1230 00:51:54,732 --> 00:51:57,804 but I lived it, and I was completely behind the scenes. 1231 00:51:57,838 --> 00:52:00,462 What happened, what brought me into journalism, 1232 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:04,155 is there was a big thing going on 1233 00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:07,262 in Budapest Hungary with migrants. 1234 00:52:07,296 --> 00:52:09,643 The media was saying the Hungarian people 1235 00:52:09,678 --> 00:52:11,473 are just beating up these migrants, 1236 00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:12,888 and they're abusing them. 1237 00:52:12,922 --> 00:52:14,200 This is so terrible. 1238 00:52:15,408 --> 00:52:18,273 So I happened to be over in Budapest. 1239 00:52:18,307 --> 00:52:20,965 So I just said I was going to be in Hungary through my blog. 1240 00:52:20,999 --> 00:52:22,311 And I started getting emails from people. 1241 00:52:22,346 --> 00:52:23,347 I see you're gonna be in Hungary. 1242 00:52:23,381 --> 00:52:24,417 I actually live here. 1243 00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:27,523 And then I decided to have a meet-up through my blog. 1244 00:52:27,558 --> 00:52:28,731 Because they said, oh yeah, 1245 00:52:28,766 --> 00:52:30,388 the media's like totally lying about this. 1246 00:52:30,423 --> 00:52:32,356 We'll show you what's really going on. 1247 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:35,255 And then I thought, wait a minute. 1248 00:52:36,498 --> 00:52:37,809 I don't have blog readers. 1249 00:52:37,844 --> 00:52:38,983 I don't have book readers. 1250 00:52:39,017 --> 00:52:41,158 I have a human intelligence network. 1251 00:52:41,192 --> 00:52:43,332 And then I thought about "Fight Club." 1252 00:52:43,367 --> 00:52:45,714 They said we're the ones serving your food. 1253 00:52:45,748 --> 00:52:47,405 We're the ones watching your car. 1254 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,889 We're the parking lot attendants. 1255 00:52:48,924 --> 00:52:50,719 We're the baristas. 1256 00:52:50,753 --> 00:52:53,687 And I kind of had that moment where I go, 1257 00:52:53,722 --> 00:52:55,482 yeah I don't have readers. 1258 00:52:55,517 --> 00:52:57,174 I now have sources. 1259 00:52:58,347 --> 00:53:00,349 - Do not fuck with us. 1260 00:53:02,282 --> 00:53:04,595 - So I went to Hungary and I reported on 1261 00:53:04,629 --> 00:53:08,046 the refugee hoax that was going on. 1262 00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:10,117 They were actually being very well taken care of. 1263 00:53:10,152 --> 00:53:11,878 There was charity everywhere you looked. 1264 00:53:11,912 --> 00:53:13,776 Everybody there is very well fed. 1265 00:53:13,811 --> 00:53:16,123 Multiple meals, cleaning areas, 1266 00:53:16,158 --> 00:53:17,366 tent cities everywhere. 1267 00:53:17,401 --> 00:53:18,885 The men are playing soccer. 1268 00:53:18,919 --> 00:53:20,369 People are goofing off. 1269 00:53:20,404 --> 00:53:23,786 Completely different than what was being reported. 1270 00:53:25,098 --> 00:53:27,134 There was one woman in a wheelchair. 1271 00:53:27,169 --> 00:53:28,412 So you know what? 1272 00:53:28,446 --> 00:53:30,448 All the media people lined up to talk 1273 00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:32,623 to the one woman in the wheelchair. 1274 00:53:32,657 --> 00:53:35,384 No camera was on anything else happening there. 1275 00:53:35,419 --> 00:53:36,696 So as I'm there witnessing it, 1276 00:53:36,730 --> 00:53:38,284 then I would read the New York Times, 1277 00:53:38,318 --> 00:53:40,251 and you see an image of a child, 1278 00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:42,529 or a person in a wheelchair or something. 1279 00:53:42,564 --> 00:53:44,531 No, there were like 10 or 15 kids there. 1280 00:53:44,566 --> 00:53:46,809 The rest of them were men of prime fighting age. 1281 00:53:46,844 --> 00:53:48,225 What happened for me personally 1282 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:49,467 at the Colletti Train Station 1283 00:53:49,502 --> 00:53:51,193 is I had never had something go viral. 1284 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:53,609 I uploaded pictures on Facebook, 1285 00:53:53,644 --> 00:53:56,647 and I got over a million people reach on Facebook. 1286 00:53:56,681 --> 00:53:59,581 And I go, wow, okay, I'm on to something. 1287 00:53:59,615 --> 00:54:00,823 And then I started to say, 1288 00:54:00,858 --> 00:54:02,377 well I'm gonna take people behind the news. 1289 00:54:02,411 --> 00:54:05,587 I'm gonna put the camera on the media. 1290 00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:07,899 - Could have undermined the messaging so much 1291 00:54:07,934 --> 00:54:10,488 that he can actually control 1292 00:54:10,523 --> 00:54:12,318 exactly what people think. 1293 00:54:12,352 --> 00:54:15,631 And that it our job. 1294 00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:16,943 - The old guard is gone. 1295 00:54:16,977 --> 00:54:18,116 The new guard is here. 1296 00:54:18,151 --> 00:54:19,463 Journalism on the web, 1297 00:54:19,497 --> 00:54:21,913 and created specifically for the web, 1298 00:54:21,948 --> 00:54:24,191 is disrupting traditional models 1299 00:54:24,226 --> 00:54:25,745 and creating new ones. 1300 00:54:25,779 --> 00:54:27,298 - You're credited with pretty much 1301 00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:30,025 digitally revolutionizing this whole new media movement. 1302 00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,302 - My name is Tim Pool. 1303 00:54:31,337 --> 00:54:32,993 I'm a journalist and technologist. 1304 00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:36,411 I cover conflict and crisis stories all over the world. 1305 00:54:36,445 --> 00:54:38,309 I was in Egypt during the revolution. 1306 00:54:38,344 --> 00:54:40,277 I was in Ukraine at the start of the civil war. 1307 00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:43,280 I was in the Venezuelan student uprising a few years ago. 1308 00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:45,351 Among many other stories. 1309 00:54:45,385 --> 00:54:48,457 I think the new media is finding faster, 1310 00:54:48,492 --> 00:54:50,494 better, and more efficient ways to cover the story 1311 00:54:50,528 --> 00:54:52,116 than old media ever can. 1312 00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:54,118 When I go out on the ground to report, 1313 00:54:54,152 --> 00:54:56,672 I have a GoPro that's about this big, and my phone. 1314 00:54:56,707 --> 00:54:57,949 I can strap the phone to my chest, 1315 00:54:57,984 --> 00:54:59,779 which does a high definition live broadcast. 1316 00:54:59,813 --> 00:55:01,815 I can interact with my audience. 1317 00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:02,954 And then I look over to my side, 1318 00:55:02,989 --> 00:55:04,231 and I see a big satellite truck 1319 00:55:04,266 --> 00:55:05,957 that costs 10 times, 100 times as much 1320 00:55:05,992 --> 00:55:07,545 as my cell phone plan. 1321 00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:10,307 - TV-31 wants you to meet our newest addition. 1322 00:55:11,687 --> 00:55:13,827 - I'm filming two things at once. 1323 00:55:13,862 --> 00:55:16,451 I'm reporting, I'm filming, 1324 00:55:16,485 --> 00:55:18,625 I'm interacting with the audience. 1325 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:20,247 I'm also filming a separate segment. 1326 00:55:20,282 --> 00:55:22,526 The jobs of four people in one person. 1327 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,149 And they still can't get the speed 1328 00:55:25,183 --> 00:55:26,564 and content that I can. 1329 00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:28,911 - Yeah, I took that mindset of, 1330 00:55:28,946 --> 00:55:31,845 going behind the scenes to Trump events. 1331 00:55:39,197 --> 00:55:41,855 Not to rallies, which I found quite boring. 1332 00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:44,099 But to what was happening outside. 1333 00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:45,549 And it was carnage. 1334 00:55:48,621 --> 00:55:49,656 - Fucking disgrace! 1335 00:55:49,691 --> 00:55:50,864 - People were taking over the streets, 1336 00:55:50,899 --> 00:55:52,210 were tearing down signs, 1337 00:55:52,245 --> 00:55:55,006 sucker punching people, screaming at people. 1338 00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:57,112 It was pandemonium, and I just live streamed. 1339 00:55:57,146 --> 00:55:58,389 I didn't know what was going on. 1340 00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,702 I just live streamed the whole thing. 1341 00:56:00,736 --> 00:56:03,187 And my phone went dead. 1342 00:56:03,221 --> 00:56:04,188 'Cause at the time, I didn't know 1343 00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:05,085 to have a battery pack. 1344 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,604 You're like a rookie, right? 1345 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:11,402 So I'm running to charge my battery. 1346 00:56:11,437 --> 00:56:13,128 Get like three, four, 5%. 1347 00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:18,167 Sprint back, live streaming, sprinting back, live streaming. 1348 00:56:18,651 --> 00:56:19,548 And it was fun. 1349 00:56:19,583 --> 00:56:21,032 It was a major adrenaline rush. 1350 00:56:21,067 --> 00:56:23,034 - The biggest difference between 1351 00:56:23,069 --> 00:56:26,762 independent journalist and a mainstream reporter 1352 00:56:26,797 --> 00:56:28,557 first is the entrepreneurial attitude. 1353 00:56:28,592 --> 00:56:30,628 It's a huge risk to go off on your own. 1354 00:56:30,663 --> 00:56:32,734 And so immediately, there's going to be 1355 00:56:32,768 --> 00:56:34,805 a different perspective on the world. 1356 00:56:34,839 --> 00:56:36,876 A lot of the traditional journalists, 1357 00:56:36,910 --> 00:56:39,603 they get out of school, they look for a job. 1358 00:56:39,637 --> 00:56:41,259 A lot of independent journalists 1359 00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:42,433 know what they want to do, 1360 00:56:42,468 --> 00:56:44,539 and oftentimes will fly themselves 1361 00:56:44,573 --> 00:56:46,472 to some dangerous part of the world, 1362 00:56:46,506 --> 00:56:47,576 'cause they want the story. 1363 00:56:47,611 --> 00:56:49,095 - Yeah, but we live for this, you know? 1364 00:56:49,129 --> 00:56:50,717 We live to tell the truth. 1365 00:56:50,752 --> 00:56:53,168 Nobody else is gonna do it, we have to do it. 1366 00:56:53,202 --> 00:56:56,620 So, here's another great example of fake news. 1367 00:56:56,654 --> 00:56:58,967 If you watch the news of the RNC, 1368 00:56:59,001 --> 00:57:03,937 you would be told total chaos, division. 1369 00:57:04,766 --> 00:57:06,664 Oh there's protests everywhere. 1370 00:57:06,699 --> 00:57:08,390 Protests everywhere at the RNC. 1371 00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:11,566 You go to these protests, it's 20 people. 1372 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,670 I kid you not. 1373 00:57:13,637 --> 00:57:15,777 20 people. 1374 00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:18,469 And 100 media people, taking pictures. 1375 00:57:18,504 --> 00:57:19,366 And they would stage 'em. 1376 00:57:19,401 --> 00:57:20,920 And they would crop the shot 1377 00:57:20,954 --> 00:57:23,647 so you couldn't really tell how many people were there. 1378 00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:24,993 - So disappointed by these protests. 1379 00:57:25,027 --> 00:57:25,925 - Yeah I know. 1380 00:57:25,959 --> 00:57:27,029 I'm gonna have to go to DNC. 1381 00:57:30,516 --> 00:57:31,655 - So I go, 1382 00:57:31,689 --> 00:57:36,004 and I was in a real protest march. 1383 00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:43,598 - Burn that fucking white capitalist shit the fuck down. 1384 00:57:43,632 --> 00:57:44,426 - Oh shit, oh shit. 1385 00:57:45,496 --> 00:57:46,808 Someone got burned! 1386 00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:49,189 - If you turn on the news, you're not seeing this. 1387 00:57:49,224 --> 00:57:52,538 Day one of the DNC, I'm out there, Periscope-ing, 1388 00:57:52,572 --> 00:57:54,056 live streaming videos. 1389 00:57:54,091 --> 00:57:56,507 There are 5,000 people at least 1390 00:57:56,542 --> 00:57:58,682 at FDR Park across from the DNC. 1391 00:57:58,716 --> 00:57:59,786 Alright, 360. 1392 00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,481 Right? 1393 00:58:04,515 --> 00:58:05,861 That's everywhere, okay, everywhere. 1394 00:58:05,896 --> 00:58:08,864 You know how many mainstream journalists I saw there? 1395 00:58:08,899 --> 00:58:09,865 Zero. 1396 00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,385 There's not even one journalist here. 1397 00:58:12,419 --> 00:58:13,179 Except for me. 1398 00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:14,525 They're all on Twitter, 1399 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,907 talking about the future of the Democratic Party 1400 00:58:16,941 --> 00:58:18,529 and the future of the election. 1401 00:58:18,564 --> 00:58:21,014 They're unbelievably lazy. 1402 00:58:21,049 --> 00:58:23,672 You know, being a right winger in New York City, 1403 00:58:23,707 --> 00:58:26,710 I'm drowned in the opposition, 1404 00:58:26,744 --> 00:58:28,435 and you learn to enjoy conflict. 1405 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:29,747 You learn to enjoy arguing, 1406 00:58:29,782 --> 00:58:32,232 and I think it makes you a more complete person. 1407 00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:33,924 And we wonder why the the media 1408 00:58:33,958 --> 00:58:35,373 has become mentally obese. 1409 00:58:38,722 --> 00:58:40,206 These people don't leave their desks. 1410 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,104 And this is true of the right and the left. 1411 00:58:42,139 --> 00:58:43,416 They'll sit there and they'll Google, 1412 00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:45,004 and they'll talk about a backlash, 1413 00:58:45,038 --> 00:58:46,730 and you'll go check the evidence of this backlash 1414 00:58:46,764 --> 00:58:48,766 and you realize it's just tweets. 1415 00:58:48,801 --> 00:58:51,010 There's no more Watergate from the beat reporter, 1416 00:58:51,044 --> 00:58:52,218 talking to people on the street, 1417 00:58:52,252 --> 00:58:53,840 'cause he just uses Google. 1418 00:58:53,875 --> 00:58:57,603 These kids now are turning to themselves for information. 1419 00:58:57,637 --> 00:58:59,225 They're their own journalists. 1420 00:58:59,259 --> 00:59:00,916 And that's what's so exciting about this time, 1421 00:59:00,951 --> 00:59:03,712 is someone like James O'Keefe can come along 1422 00:59:03,747 --> 00:59:06,922 with an undercover camera and totally blow up 1423 00:59:06,957 --> 00:59:09,235 the New York Times, fake voting, 1424 00:59:09,269 --> 00:59:10,754 all of this stuff by going out there 1425 00:59:10,788 --> 00:59:13,135 and just doing it themselves. 1426 00:59:13,170 --> 00:59:14,792 - So the biggest rub on me 1427 00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:15,966 is that I'm not a journalist. 1428 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,277 That's what they will say. 1429 00:59:17,312 --> 00:59:18,865 James O'Keefe is not a journalist. 1430 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,868 Whatever they want to call us, it doesn't matter. 1431 00:59:21,903 --> 00:59:24,284 What matters is the thing that you are producing. 1432 00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:27,218 I'd like to get comments as soon as possible. 1433 00:59:27,253 --> 00:59:28,323 - Oh okay. 1434 00:59:28,357 --> 00:59:29,117 From name? 1435 00:59:29,151 --> 00:59:30,290 - James O'Keefe. 1436 00:59:32,292 --> 00:59:33,742 - Can I put you on hold really quick? 1437 00:59:33,777 --> 00:59:34,916 - Yeah thanks. 1438 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:36,987 This is the oh shit moment. 1439 00:59:37,021 --> 00:59:39,748 Journalism is not just an identity, it's an activity. 1440 00:59:39,783 --> 00:59:42,061 It is what you do. 1441 00:59:42,095 --> 00:59:44,891 And you judge people based on what they produce. 1442 00:59:44,926 --> 00:59:46,824 Basically, everyone is a journalist. 1443 00:59:46,859 --> 00:59:49,931 - But here you have actual grassroots activism, 1444 00:59:49,965 --> 00:59:51,588 and there's no media. 1445 00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:53,106 So you go to the DNC, 1446 00:59:53,141 --> 00:59:55,764 you see this massive protest, real protest. 1447 00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:57,801 Not like this bullshit at the RNC. 1448 00:59:57,835 --> 00:59:59,768 Which the media hyped up. 1449 00:59:59,803 --> 01:00:02,357 Real protestors, and they're democrats, 1450 01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,015 and they're being kept out by this big cage. 1451 01:00:05,049 --> 01:00:06,775 - It's like we're the criminals, but not her. 1452 01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:08,156 - Let us go! 1453 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:09,502 - And they're all talking about how they hate Hillary. 1454 01:00:09,536 --> 01:00:10,952 They're not gonna vote for her. 1455 01:00:10,986 --> 01:00:12,539 They're not gonna do anything for Hillary Clinton, 1456 01:00:12,574 --> 01:00:14,645 'cause they thought the primary was rigged. 1457 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,337 And there's no mainstream coverage of this at all. 1458 01:00:17,372 --> 01:00:18,649 They're chanting Wikileaks. 1459 01:00:18,684 --> 01:00:19,926 What do you think about the Wikileaks? 1460 01:00:19,961 --> 01:00:22,135 - Yeah, that's the last straw. 1461 01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:24,172 That is the proof of what we've all expected 1462 01:00:24,206 --> 01:00:25,691 that they've been doing. 1463 01:00:25,725 --> 01:00:28,210 - Wikileaks released thousands of emails from the DNC, 1464 01:00:28,245 --> 01:00:31,179 appearing to show favoritism towards Hillary Clinton. 1465 01:00:31,213 --> 01:00:33,802 - CNN can't verify the authenticity of those emails, 1466 01:00:33,837 --> 01:00:35,045 but they suggest that-- 1467 01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,047 - Bernie Sanders may have been right. 1468 01:00:37,081 --> 01:00:39,877 The primary system was rigged against him. 1469 01:00:39,912 --> 01:00:42,017 - Wikileaks offered a window into the world 1470 01:00:42,052 --> 01:00:44,502 that most people would have never had, 1471 01:00:44,537 --> 01:00:47,402 and that's the real reason the media lied about Wikileaks. 1472 01:00:47,436 --> 01:00:49,542 When Chris Cuomo said on CNN-- 1473 01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:53,339 - It's illegal to possess these stolen documents. 1474 01:00:53,373 --> 01:00:54,685 It's different for the media. 1475 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,652 So everything you learn about this, 1476 01:00:55,686 --> 01:00:57,308 you're learning from us. 1477 01:00:57,343 --> 01:00:58,309 It's different for the media. 1478 01:00:58,344 --> 01:00:59,517 It's different for the media. 1479 01:00:59,552 --> 01:01:00,484 - Wikileaks showed, though, 1480 01:01:00,518 --> 01:01:01,727 the extent of the collusion. 1481 01:01:01,761 --> 01:01:04,971 There were, I believe, 52 reporters who 1482 01:01:05,006 --> 01:01:06,801 had had various off the record, 1483 01:01:06,835 --> 01:01:08,699 very homey dinners with John Podesta. 1484 01:01:08,734 --> 01:01:10,218 So they're all great friends. 1485 01:01:10,252 --> 01:01:12,530 Glenn Throsh, who was then at Politico 1486 01:01:12,565 --> 01:01:13,877 and now at the New York Times, 1487 01:01:13,911 --> 01:01:15,879 emails John Podesta and said, 1488 01:01:15,913 --> 01:01:17,984 "I'm such a hack that I'm gonna send you 1489 01:01:18,019 --> 01:01:19,917 "the part of the article that pertains to you 1490 01:01:19,952 --> 01:01:21,919 "before it's released." 1491 01:01:21,954 --> 01:01:24,025 What they were doing is they're giving 1492 01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:25,923 the other side a head start. 1493 01:01:25,958 --> 01:01:28,857 Hey, we're about to drop this hit piece on you tomorrow. 1494 01:01:28,892 --> 01:01:30,687 Get your talking points locked and loaded tonight. 1495 01:01:30,721 --> 01:01:32,102 It's amazingly valuable. 1496 01:01:32,136 --> 01:01:33,897 Not only did he not get punished, 1497 01:01:33,931 --> 01:01:36,002 he is now the White House correspondent 1498 01:01:36,037 --> 01:01:36,900 at the New York Times. 1499 01:01:41,111 --> 01:01:45,218 Maggie Haberman, who I also believe is at Politico, 1500 01:01:45,253 --> 01:01:47,255 was referred to as a friendly reporter 1501 01:01:47,289 --> 01:01:50,085 that the Clinton campaign would use to tee up stories. 1502 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,848 Maggie Haberman now works at the New York Times. 1503 01:01:53,882 --> 01:01:55,401 - I have an uphill climb, 1504 01:01:55,435 --> 01:01:58,093 and I'm gonna climb as high and hard as I can. 1505 01:01:58,128 --> 01:02:00,924 - Donna Brazile was a CNN contributor, 1506 01:02:00,958 --> 01:02:03,754 and she obtained some questions from the town hall 1507 01:02:03,789 --> 01:02:05,756 which was competitive between 1508 01:02:05,791 --> 01:02:07,654 Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, 1509 01:02:07,689 --> 01:02:09,587 and she gave the questions to Hillary Clinton. 1510 01:02:09,622 --> 01:02:13,971 She confirmed that the primary was rigged against Bernie, 1511 01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:16,077 and it was rigged for Hillary. 1512 01:02:16,111 --> 01:02:17,975 She revealed that based on the fundraising agreement 1513 01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:20,150 between Hillary Clinton's campaign 1514 01:02:20,184 --> 01:02:23,118 and between the DNC that all the messaging from the DNC 1515 01:02:23,153 --> 01:02:25,120 had to be cleared by what she called Brooklyn. 1516 01:02:25,155 --> 01:02:27,778 That was the Hillary Clinton office. 1517 01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:29,642 Every press release had to be pre-approved. 1518 01:02:29,676 --> 01:02:31,575 Well that's a nice advantage. 1519 01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:33,611 I would like every article about me 1520 01:02:33,646 --> 01:02:34,820 to have to be pre-approved by me. 1521 01:02:34,854 --> 01:02:36,269 That would be amazing. 1522 01:02:36,304 --> 01:02:39,134 Wikileaks confirmed what people already knew, 1523 01:02:39,169 --> 01:02:41,654 but couldn't prove, which is that the media 1524 01:02:41,688 --> 01:02:43,311 and the democrats are one in the same. 1525 01:02:43,345 --> 01:02:44,105 There is no difference. 1526 01:02:44,139 --> 01:02:45,762 They're all buddy buddy. 1527 01:02:45,796 --> 01:02:47,073 And whatever you read in the mainstream news 1528 01:02:47,108 --> 01:02:49,317 is gonna be the democrat talking points. 1529 01:02:49,351 --> 01:02:50,594 - One of the things I don't think 1530 01:02:50,628 --> 01:02:53,148 you need to convince anybody anymore 1531 01:02:53,183 --> 01:02:55,910 is that the media is biased. 1532 01:02:55,944 --> 01:02:57,635 I think there used to be a day, you know, 1533 01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:59,534 maybe when I was a kid when people said, 1534 01:02:59,568 --> 01:03:03,710 well, the news is at least trying not to be biased. 1535 01:03:03,745 --> 01:03:05,022 They're at least trying. 1536 01:03:06,023 --> 01:03:08,163 But now nobody believes that. 1537 01:03:08,198 --> 01:03:12,823 What they do believe, which is weirder and maybe worse, 1538 01:03:12,858 --> 01:03:15,653 is that they believe that only the other side is biased. 1539 01:03:16,862 --> 01:03:19,796 And that's a tough one to crack. 1540 01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:21,314 - You know, a lot of people will look at me 1541 01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:23,489 and they'll say, "Lauren, you've obviously got a bias." 1542 01:03:23,523 --> 01:03:25,146 Yeah, everyone has a bias. 1543 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:26,147 I'm just honest about it. 1544 01:03:26,181 --> 01:03:27,389 I will tell you, yeah, 1545 01:03:27,424 --> 01:03:29,115 I'm coming from a right wing point of view. 1546 01:03:29,150 --> 01:03:32,498 That's why my feelings inside, I am right wing. 1547 01:03:32,532 --> 01:03:34,155 So I'm gonna explain that to you, 1548 01:03:34,189 --> 01:03:36,985 and tell you to go look and read other journalism as well. 1549 01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:39,194 - It doesn't matter if you are 1550 01:03:39,229 --> 01:03:40,506 one political side or the other. 1551 01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:41,852 It matters are you gonna tell the truth 1552 01:03:41,887 --> 01:03:43,129 about what happened. 1553 01:03:43,164 --> 01:03:45,718 And so, with a lot of these journalists, 1554 01:03:45,752 --> 01:03:49,135 they're more interested in winning. 1555 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,310 They're more interested in the political agenda. 1556 01:03:51,344 --> 01:03:53,760 They're more interested in fitting in than being honest. 1557 01:03:53,795 --> 01:03:55,693 - If I was the CEO of the New York Times, I would say, 1558 01:03:55,728 --> 01:03:57,488 I would bring all my reporters in the room and say, 1559 01:03:57,523 --> 01:03:58,973 "Here's the deal. 1560 01:03:59,007 --> 01:04:01,251 "If you have an opinion, 1561 01:04:01,285 --> 01:04:03,391 "and it gets injected into your article, 1562 01:04:03,425 --> 01:04:05,980 "then state that to the public." 1563 01:04:06,014 --> 01:04:07,257 - The issue with the mainstream media 1564 01:04:07,291 --> 01:04:09,017 is they tell you I'm neutral, 1565 01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:11,537 I'm coming from a position that's totally impartial. 1566 01:04:13,194 --> 01:04:16,853 - President Obama is the most noble man who has ever lived 1567 01:04:16,887 --> 01:04:18,095 in the White House. 1568 01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:20,787 - The Manchurian candidate couldn't destroy us 1569 01:04:20,822 --> 01:04:22,582 faster than Barack Obama. 1570 01:04:22,617 --> 01:04:26,414 - It's illegal to possess these stolen documents. 1571 01:04:26,448 --> 01:04:29,417 - The most trusted name in news. 1572 01:04:29,451 --> 01:04:30,728 - It's ridiculous. 1573 01:04:30,763 --> 01:04:32,420 You have media that's literally colluding, 1574 01:04:32,454 --> 01:04:35,009 and during the debates, they're leaking questions. 1575 01:04:35,043 --> 01:04:37,632 And still pretending to be impartial media. 1576 01:04:37,666 --> 01:04:39,392 Everyone has a bias. 1577 01:04:39,427 --> 01:04:41,084 It's just some people are gonna be honest about it, 1578 01:04:41,118 --> 01:04:42,740 and some people aren't. 1579 01:04:42,775 --> 01:04:46,813 And new media, independent media, are honest about it. 1580 01:04:46,848 --> 01:04:48,194 - What I learned at the DNC, 1581 01:04:48,229 --> 01:04:50,058 not only about the media being fake 1582 01:04:50,093 --> 01:04:52,543 and how they would construct a fake narrative in real time, 1583 01:04:52,578 --> 01:04:55,926 but I did see how the democrats and the media 1584 01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:58,204 were covering up the whole Bernie Sanders thing. 1585 01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,103 And I said, but there's no way in the world 1586 01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:01,138 Hillary Clinton is going to win. 1587 01:05:01,173 --> 01:05:04,038 So people of course call me all year. 1588 01:05:04,072 --> 01:05:05,625 You're an idiot, you're a conspiracy theorist, 1589 01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:07,282 you don't know anything. 1590 01:05:07,317 --> 01:05:08,214 You're not an expert, blah. 1591 01:05:08,249 --> 01:05:09,595 And I was like, well, 1592 01:05:09,629 --> 01:05:11,735 that's because you're watching the news. 1593 01:05:17,948 --> 01:05:19,294 - Could he actually win? 1594 01:05:19,329 --> 01:05:20,951 - No freaking way! 1595 01:05:21,987 --> 01:05:23,643 - And which republican candidate 1596 01:05:23,678 --> 01:05:26,681 has the best chance of winning the general election? 1597 01:05:26,715 --> 01:05:29,960 - Of the declared ones, right now, Donald Trump. 1598 01:05:32,307 --> 01:05:35,000 - We have Hillary as about 75 or an 80% favorite. 1599 01:05:35,034 --> 01:05:36,139 We have a different person to forecast. 1600 01:05:36,173 --> 01:05:38,831 - 89% for Hillary Clinton. 1601 01:05:38,865 --> 01:05:41,144 - Hillary Clinton has a 100% chance of winning. 1602 01:05:41,178 --> 01:05:42,800 - The Presidential race is over. 1603 01:05:42,835 --> 01:05:44,526 - The state of the race at the presidential level 1604 01:05:44,561 --> 01:05:46,149 is virtually over. 1605 01:05:46,183 --> 01:05:49,186 - Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi, South Carolina. 1606 01:05:49,221 --> 01:05:51,671 - Pretty dramatic change in the forecast. 1607 01:05:51,706 --> 01:05:54,847 - They were in a weird, weird situation right now. 1608 01:05:54,881 --> 01:05:57,194 - And CNN projects Donald Trump will carry 1609 01:05:57,229 --> 01:05:58,299 the state of Florida. 1610 01:05:58,333 --> 01:05:59,541 - Ohio will go to Donald Trump. 1611 01:05:59,576 --> 01:06:01,026 Donald Trump has won 1612 01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:02,337 the state of Pennsylvania. 1613 01:06:02,372 --> 01:06:04,167 - That is the race. 1614 01:06:04,201 --> 01:06:06,514 - Donald Trump wins the presidency. 1615 01:06:06,548 --> 01:06:08,205 - America is crying tonight. 1616 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,276 - Everybody is crying. 1617 01:06:10,311 --> 01:06:12,278 - How do we explain how this is possible. 1618 01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:13,866 - How did this happen? 1619 01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:15,661 - I think election day questions have been raised 1620 01:06:15,695 --> 01:06:17,456 about the role that false news stories 1621 01:06:17,490 --> 01:06:19,803 distributed online played in the final result. 1622 01:06:19,837 --> 01:06:21,184 - There's been a lot of talk lately about-- 1623 01:06:21,218 --> 01:06:22,288 - Fake news. - Fake news. 1624 01:06:22,323 --> 01:06:23,496 - Fake news. 1625 01:06:23,531 --> 01:06:25,153 - Hoax sites and hyper-partisan blogs. 1626 01:06:25,188 --> 01:06:26,292 - That are spread further 1627 01:06:26,327 --> 01:06:27,742 on social media platforms. 1628 01:06:27,776 --> 01:06:29,295 - As long as it's on social media, 1629 01:06:29,330 --> 01:06:30,538 people start believing it. 1630 01:06:30,572 --> 01:06:32,298 - Real world political implications. 1631 01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:33,713 - Real world consequences. 1632 01:06:33,748 --> 01:06:35,336 - A threat to democracy. 1633 01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:38,028 - Journalists are over-playing the fake news stories 1634 01:06:38,063 --> 01:06:40,410 to demonize people you don't agree with. 1635 01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:45,070 - In this last election, 1636 01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:48,004 the nation was assaulted by imposters 1637 01:06:48,038 --> 01:06:50,351 masquerading as reporters. 1638 01:06:50,385 --> 01:06:53,181 Michael Cernovich, a southern California lawyer, 1639 01:06:53,216 --> 01:06:56,081 has become a magnet for readers, 1640 01:06:56,115 --> 01:07:00,671 with a taste for stories with no basis in fact. 1641 01:07:00,706 --> 01:07:04,537 - Yeah, 60 Minutes wanted to do an interview with me 1642 01:07:04,572 --> 01:07:07,368 because they were doing a big segment on fake news. 1643 01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:10,474 And they wanted to make me out to be fake news. 1644 01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,684 It was a complete setup, God bless 'em. 1645 01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:16,618 - Cernovich's website is just one of hundreds 1646 01:07:16,653 --> 01:07:20,346 publishing nonsense on the right and on the left. 1647 01:07:20,381 --> 01:07:23,177 - So intelligent people who are familiar 1648 01:07:23,211 --> 01:07:26,283 with my body of work understand what I do 1649 01:07:26,318 --> 01:07:28,389 and why I do it, and it's very meta. 1650 01:07:28,423 --> 01:07:30,977 - The first thing that Machiavelli would tell 1651 01:07:31,012 --> 01:07:34,222 a prince to do would be to write a book, 1652 01:07:34,257 --> 01:07:35,568 denouncing the prince. 1653 01:07:35,603 --> 01:07:36,914 And so I think it's interesting, you know, 1654 01:07:36,949 --> 01:07:40,090 to have someone like Mike doing a documentary 1655 01:07:40,125 --> 01:07:43,300 about fake news, because it's owning a term 1656 01:07:43,335 --> 01:07:46,786 that has been directed at him and people like him. 1657 01:07:46,821 --> 01:07:50,273 - These news stories are fakes. 1658 01:07:50,307 --> 01:07:51,205 - They're definitely not fake. 1659 01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:52,068 - They're lies. 1660 01:07:52,102 --> 01:07:53,310 - Not lie at all. 1661 01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:55,450 - One of the reasons that someone like Mike 1662 01:07:55,485 --> 01:07:58,246 I think aggravates journalists so much 1663 01:07:58,281 --> 01:08:03,458 is that he's sort of like a carnival mirror. 1664 01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:06,806 - Hillary Clinton has Parkinson's 1665 01:08:06,841 --> 01:08:09,119 Disease, physician confirms. 1666 01:08:09,154 --> 01:08:10,569 You don't think that's misleading? 1667 01:08:10,603 --> 01:08:11,846 - No. 1668 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,849 - He's projecting back at them what they do 1669 01:08:14,883 --> 01:08:17,955 in almost all their, but to an absurd 1670 01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:20,303 and almost offensive lever. 1671 01:08:20,337 --> 01:08:21,476 - Hillary is a zombie. 1672 01:08:21,511 --> 01:08:22,408 What do you guys think? 1673 01:08:22,443 --> 01:08:23,754 You want to do a hashtag? 1674 01:08:23,789 --> 01:08:25,342 What do you think of zombie Hillary? 1675 01:08:25,377 --> 01:08:28,518 So what I am doing is am being a fun house mirror, 1676 01:08:28,552 --> 01:08:31,003 where you think that we're the monsters, 1677 01:08:31,037 --> 01:08:34,110 but really all we're doing is changing the wording 1678 01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:35,421 on things that you would actually say. 1679 01:08:35,456 --> 01:08:37,423 Hillary, all I know is that she is sick. 1680 01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,253 - This is a very sick man. 1681 01:08:39,287 --> 01:08:40,875 He is truly very sick. 1682 01:08:40,909 --> 01:08:44,016 - This is why we need Hillary's medical records. 1683 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:46,156 - How recently has he had a colonoscopy, 1684 01:08:46,191 --> 01:08:47,502 or other cancer tests? 1685 01:08:47,537 --> 01:08:49,366 - John McCain's health was a big issue. 1686 01:08:49,401 --> 01:08:52,162 The media was all covering it, is John McCain healthy. 1687 01:08:52,197 --> 01:08:54,440 Everybody's been talking about Donald Trump's health. 1688 01:08:54,475 --> 01:08:56,166 - Is this president of sound mind? 1689 01:08:56,201 --> 01:08:57,478 - Whether it's a personality disorder, 1690 01:08:57,512 --> 01:08:58,479 or borderline personality. 1691 01:08:58,513 --> 01:09:00,619 - He's not in control of himself. 1692 01:09:00,653 --> 01:09:02,310 - Some people said he had mental health problems. 1693 01:09:02,345 --> 01:09:05,175 The New Republic said Donald Trump had syphilis. 1694 01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:07,212 - "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." 1695 01:09:07,246 --> 01:09:09,835 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts 1696 01:09:09,869 --> 01:09:11,077 assess a president. 1697 01:09:11,112 --> 01:09:13,183 - So if you're a bunch of psychologists, 1698 01:09:13,218 --> 01:09:14,460 and you want to write a book 1699 01:09:14,495 --> 01:09:15,806 about a patient you've never seen, 1700 01:09:15,841 --> 01:09:17,808 the media will cover it and you'll be a best seller. 1701 01:09:17,843 --> 01:09:20,294 - The book includes and validates 1702 01:09:20,328 --> 01:09:22,744 some of the general news media's speculation 1703 01:09:22,779 --> 01:09:25,057 about Donald Trump's mental capacity. 1704 01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:26,334 - With Hillary's health, 1705 01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:27,715 I had a doctor who had never seen her, 1706 01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:28,819 and they remind me of that. 1707 01:09:28,854 --> 01:09:30,096 Well he never treated her. 1708 01:09:30,131 --> 01:09:31,408 That story was sourced 1709 01:09:31,443 --> 01:09:34,515 to an anesthesiologist who never met Clinton. 1710 01:09:34,549 --> 01:09:36,482 - What is your take of all the doctors 1711 01:09:36,517 --> 01:09:38,001 and clinicians all across the country 1712 01:09:38,035 --> 01:09:39,761 who have said that in this president, 1713 01:09:39,796 --> 01:09:42,350 they see symptoms of this, that, and the other? 1714 01:09:42,385 --> 01:09:45,250 - The duty to warn of ways 1715 01:09:45,284 --> 01:09:48,563 that the consideration that would normally apply, 1716 01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:50,669 which is I'm not gonna offer a public diagnosis 1717 01:09:50,703 --> 01:09:52,326 of a person I have not met. 1718 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,568 - But when it's a democrat, 1719 01:09:53,603 --> 01:09:55,432 there's now a new higher evidentiary standard 1720 01:09:55,467 --> 01:09:59,367 and we can't just talk about speculation and gossip. 1721 01:09:59,402 --> 01:10:00,782 - The conspiracy du jour, 1722 01:10:00,817 --> 01:10:04,061 Hillary Clinton is harboring a secret medical condition. 1723 01:10:04,096 --> 01:10:05,511 The President of the United States 1724 01:10:05,546 --> 01:10:09,032 genuinely appears to be losing his grip on reality. 1725 01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:10,689 - And that would be the fun house aspect. 1726 01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:12,587 It's get real. 1727 01:10:12,622 --> 01:10:13,968 They did it to McCain. 1728 01:10:14,002 --> 01:10:14,969 They did it to Trump. 1729 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:16,246 We did it to Hillary. 1730 01:10:16,281 --> 01:10:17,868 They're just gonna have to get over that. 1731 01:10:17,903 --> 01:10:19,456 - It's the exact same playbook 1732 01:10:19,491 --> 01:10:20,940 that these other journalists are doing, 1733 01:10:20,975 --> 01:10:25,945 and I think that sort of mimicry is very upsetting. 1734 01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:29,259 - Which ties into the Scott Adams theory on two movies. 1735 01:10:29,294 --> 01:10:31,157 If you're Scott Peli, 1736 01:10:31,192 --> 01:10:32,711 you're watching a movie where 1737 01:10:32,745 --> 01:10:35,127 anybody who claims that Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's 1738 01:10:35,161 --> 01:10:37,578 is a complete and total conspiracy theorist. 1739 01:10:37,612 --> 01:10:39,925 If you're anybody else in America, 1740 01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:42,583 you're watching the movie where you see 1741 01:10:42,617 --> 01:10:45,275 a very sick person having coughing fits, 1742 01:10:45,310 --> 01:10:46,932 having so called allergies, 1743 01:10:46,966 --> 01:10:48,244 falling down multiple times, 1744 01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:50,453 and then having a major seizure on 9-11. 1745 01:10:50,487 --> 01:10:51,937 And you're thinking, 1746 01:10:51,971 --> 01:10:54,560 they're calling Cernovich out for the Hillary's heath thing? 1747 01:10:54,595 --> 01:10:56,493 She had a seizure and froze up 1748 01:10:56,528 --> 01:10:58,461 walking into her motorcade. 1749 01:11:00,497 --> 01:11:02,327 - Well, she had pneumonia, I mean... 1750 01:11:02,361 --> 01:11:03,155 - How do you know? 1751 01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:04,329 Who told you that? 1752 01:11:04,363 --> 01:11:05,640 - Well the campaign told us that. 1753 01:11:05,675 --> 01:11:07,021 - Why would you trust a campaign? 1754 01:11:07,055 --> 01:11:08,298 - The point is-- 1755 01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:09,575 - The camera didn't show there, 1756 01:11:09,610 --> 01:11:11,267 but he actually dropped his glasses. 1757 01:11:11,301 --> 01:11:13,579 He was so freaked out because 1758 01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:16,099 they're not used to somebody coming after them. 1759 01:11:16,133 --> 01:11:18,998 The whole power dynamic of I'm the media, 1760 01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:20,483 and I'm Scott Pely, and I'm 60 Minutes, 1761 01:11:20,517 --> 01:11:22,036 and we're just gonna interrogate you 1762 01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:23,658 and you're gonna give us what you want. 1763 01:11:23,693 --> 01:11:25,004 That doesn't even enter my mind. 1764 01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:27,283 I'm thinking how is this gonna look 1765 01:11:27,317 --> 01:11:29,319 when they edit that clip, and make memes, 1766 01:11:29,354 --> 01:11:30,769 and make viral videos. 1767 01:11:30,803 --> 01:11:34,669 - Disingenuous sort of online posturing. 1768 01:11:34,704 --> 01:11:36,671 It might feel harmless, 1769 01:11:36,706 --> 01:11:38,501 and this might feel no different than 1770 01:11:38,535 --> 01:11:41,055 creating lolcat memes. 1771 01:11:41,089 --> 01:11:42,677 But these memes have real consequences 1772 01:11:42,712 --> 01:11:44,955 in the real world for real people. 1773 01:11:46,543 --> 01:11:49,719 This idea of fake news is sort of a misnomer, 1774 01:11:49,753 --> 01:11:52,687 because fake news creates real opinions, 1775 01:11:52,722 --> 01:11:55,207 which creates real actions. 1776 01:11:55,241 --> 01:11:59,142 And then we live with the real consequences of that, right? 1777 01:11:59,176 --> 01:12:03,353 No amount of reporting makes Pizzagate real. 1778 01:12:03,388 --> 01:12:05,804 But the bullet that goes through 1779 01:12:05,838 --> 01:12:08,358 that pizza shop is very real 1780 01:12:08,393 --> 01:12:12,535 and could've killed someone. 1781 01:12:12,569 --> 01:12:14,675 - Pizzagate actually comes from 1782 01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:16,677 the Wikileaks release of hacked emails 1783 01:12:16,711 --> 01:12:19,196 from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. 1784 01:12:19,231 --> 01:12:20,543 And it was from those emails 1785 01:12:20,577 --> 01:12:22,199 that the claims that John Podesta 1786 01:12:22,234 --> 01:12:25,513 may be part of a child sex trafficking ring come from. 1787 01:12:25,548 --> 01:12:27,722 - Whenever the media talks about Pizzagate, 1788 01:12:27,757 --> 01:12:29,655 don't just look at what they bring up. 1789 01:12:29,690 --> 01:12:31,519 Look at what they don't bring up. 1790 01:12:31,554 --> 01:12:35,178 The Pizzagate, as it's now called a conspiracy theory, 1791 01:12:35,212 --> 01:12:38,388 actually originated in a Podesta email that's quite weird 1792 01:12:38,423 --> 01:12:40,494 and to this day is perplexing. 1793 01:12:40,528 --> 01:12:43,048 Where somebody told John Podesta, 1794 01:12:43,082 --> 01:12:45,775 you left a handkerchief on the counter. 1795 01:12:45,809 --> 01:12:47,363 There's a map on there. 1796 01:12:47,397 --> 01:12:49,295 Something pizza-related. 1797 01:12:51,470 --> 01:12:53,023 Who cares, a handkerchief? 1798 01:12:53,058 --> 01:12:54,853 Throw a handkerchief away. 1799 01:12:54,887 --> 01:12:56,613 You're gonna FedEx somebody a handkerchief? 1800 01:12:56,648 --> 01:12:58,443 That's so bizarre. 1801 01:12:58,477 --> 01:13:00,859 And then who writes a map on a handkerchief? 1802 01:13:00,893 --> 01:13:03,551 And then the map is something pizza-related. 1803 01:13:03,586 --> 01:13:04,449 That's bizarre. 1804 01:13:04,483 --> 01:13:05,967 That's code word for something. 1805 01:13:06,002 --> 01:13:07,797 Could be codes for drugs. 1806 01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:10,593 I don't know, but nobody in the media ever said, 1807 01:13:10,627 --> 01:13:13,389 hey dude, why would you have a handkerchief 1808 01:13:13,423 --> 01:13:15,391 with a map on it that's pizza-related, 1809 01:13:15,425 --> 01:13:16,633 and why would anybody think it's important enough 1810 01:13:16,668 --> 01:13:18,532 to send it to you? 1811 01:13:18,566 --> 01:13:21,707 - Users of the anonymous online message board 4chan, 1812 01:13:21,742 --> 01:13:23,571 known for rogue political discussion, 1813 01:13:23,606 --> 01:13:26,056 suggested without any proof whatsoever 1814 01:13:26,091 --> 01:13:29,232 that the word pizza was code for child sex trafficking 1815 01:13:29,266 --> 01:13:30,785 at the restaurant. 1816 01:13:30,820 --> 01:13:32,615 The conspiracy theory quickly spread to Reddit, 1817 01:13:32,649 --> 01:13:35,583 and YouTube, feeding fake online news stories, 1818 01:13:35,618 --> 01:13:37,930 then jumping to Facebook and Twitter. 1819 01:13:37,965 --> 01:13:39,449 - People on 4chan and 8chan, 1820 01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,624 they just post and they say, guys, 1821 01:13:41,658 --> 01:13:43,419 look at this, what the hell is this? 1822 01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:44,592 And then they just start connecting the dots. 1823 01:13:44,627 --> 01:13:45,835 And it's all public record. 1824 01:13:45,869 --> 01:13:47,457 It's all out there in the public domain. 1825 01:13:47,492 --> 01:13:49,286 And all they're doing is connecting the dots, 1826 01:13:49,321 --> 01:13:51,323 that the media wouldn't touch. 1827 01:13:52,462 --> 01:13:53,670 And the media wants you to believe 1828 01:13:53,705 --> 01:13:55,500 that you can't look at the stuff and say, 1829 01:13:55,534 --> 01:13:57,363 yeah, this is really weird. 1830 01:13:57,398 --> 01:13:58,606 This is really fucking weird. 1831 01:13:58,641 --> 01:14:00,746 - The amazing thing about Pizzagate 1832 01:14:00,781 --> 01:14:04,474 is that if you start looking into the evidence for it, 1833 01:14:04,509 --> 01:14:05,924 it's really compelling. 1834 01:14:05,958 --> 01:14:08,340 Meaning that it's hard to imagine 1835 01:14:08,374 --> 01:14:10,515 that all of that evidence doesn't mean 1836 01:14:10,549 --> 01:14:15,554 what the Pizzagate conspiracy thought it meant. 1837 01:14:16,728 --> 01:14:19,144 But, it's also classic confirmation bias. 1838 01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:21,802 Yeah, there's another piece of evidence for my side. 1839 01:14:21,836 --> 01:14:23,113 Yeah, there's another one. 1840 01:14:23,148 --> 01:14:26,116 Even though other people could look at it and just say, 1841 01:14:26,151 --> 01:14:27,877 what the hell are you talking about? 1842 01:14:27,911 --> 01:14:29,637 I don't see it. 1843 01:14:29,672 --> 01:14:30,983 - The Pizzagate narrative, 1844 01:14:31,018 --> 01:14:34,815 as least as concerning Mr. Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong, 1845 01:14:34,849 --> 01:14:37,507 we have subsequently determined was based upon 1846 01:14:37,542 --> 01:14:40,372 what we now believe was an incorrect narrative. 1847 01:14:40,406 --> 01:14:41,787 We apologize. 1848 01:14:41,822 --> 01:14:43,306 To the extent our commentaries 1849 01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:45,239 could be considered as negative statements 1850 01:14:45,273 --> 01:14:47,862 about Mr. Alefantis or Comet Ping Pong. 1851 01:14:47,897 --> 01:14:50,347 We encourage you to hold us accountable, 1852 01:14:50,382 --> 01:14:53,074 because we improve when you do. 1853 01:14:53,109 --> 01:14:55,732 - These, they call themselves Pizzagate researchers, 1854 01:14:55,767 --> 01:14:57,044 which I never was. 1855 01:14:57,078 --> 01:15:00,841 They have video after video, analyzing everything. 1856 01:15:00,875 --> 01:15:04,258 And somehow, it became about a pizza parlor. 1857 01:15:04,292 --> 01:15:06,502 The Comet Pizza shooting, by the way, 1858 01:15:06,536 --> 01:15:07,813 is a very sad thing, 1859 01:15:07,848 --> 01:15:09,401 and the shooter had no connection to me, 1860 01:15:09,435 --> 01:15:11,403 he had never read my stuff. 1861 01:15:11,437 --> 01:15:13,819 The fake news media has claimed 1862 01:15:13,854 --> 01:15:16,166 that I propagated it and spread it and everything, 1863 01:15:16,201 --> 01:15:18,583 but they can never find me blaming 1864 01:15:18,617 --> 01:15:20,861 that pizza parlor for anything. 1865 01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:22,034 They can never find me blaming 1866 01:15:22,069 --> 01:15:24,105 the owner of that pizza parlor for anything. 1867 01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:28,213 But I was always focused on things that were real, 1868 01:15:28,247 --> 01:15:29,732 and that are bizarre. 1869 01:15:29,766 --> 01:15:32,044 - You tweeted the Clintons were running a pedophilia ring. 1870 01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:33,908 It's been in emails all the time. 1871 01:15:33,943 --> 01:15:35,772 We just weren't able to see the code. 1872 01:15:35,807 --> 01:15:37,187 - Yeah, I don't agree with that. 1873 01:15:37,222 --> 01:15:38,464 - You don't agree with that? 1874 01:15:38,499 --> 01:15:39,707 - I definitely don't think the Clintons 1875 01:15:39,742 --> 01:15:41,364 are personally running a pedophilia ring. 1876 01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:42,572 - So why did you write it? 1877 01:15:42,607 --> 01:15:44,263 - That was worded imprecisely. 1878 01:15:44,298 --> 01:15:45,955 That was more-- - Why did you write it then? 1879 01:15:45,989 --> 01:15:47,784 - You can go back to 2004, 1880 01:15:47,819 --> 01:15:48,751 where there was a puff piece 1881 01:15:48,785 --> 01:15:51,098 written about Tony Podesta. 1882 01:15:51,132 --> 01:15:52,858 Washington Post and The Guardian had both 1883 01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,033 written pieces about what a great 1884 01:15:55,067 --> 01:15:56,862 avant-garde art collector he is. 1885 01:15:56,897 --> 01:15:58,070 - And they say, oh, it's just art. 1886 01:15:58,105 --> 01:15:59,416 It's just modern art. 1887 01:15:59,451 --> 01:16:00,901 It's just art, don't worry about it. 1888 01:16:00,935 --> 01:16:02,627 It's kind of like, that's kind of a cop-out. 1889 01:16:02,661 --> 01:16:04,249 If it's art or not, it's screwed up. 1890 01:16:04,283 --> 01:16:06,596 - For the vast majority of Americans, 1891 01:16:06,631 --> 01:16:07,942 they're gonna look into that and say, 1892 01:16:07,977 --> 01:16:09,565 that's weird stuff. 1893 01:16:09,599 --> 01:16:12,568 Now, maybe Cernovich over-plays it. 1894 01:16:12,602 --> 01:16:15,709 Maybe he sensationalizes a little bit. 1895 01:16:15,743 --> 01:16:17,607 But the sentiment of it is, 1896 01:16:17,642 --> 01:16:18,953 these are very creepy people. 1897 01:16:18,988 --> 01:16:20,645 There's an email from the Wikileaks where 1898 01:16:20,679 --> 01:16:21,956 the Podestas talk about having 1899 01:16:21,991 --> 01:16:23,786 stayed in touch a Dennis Hastert. 1900 01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:25,788 Dennis Hastert was a long time family friend. 1901 01:16:25,822 --> 01:16:27,652 Dennis Hastert went to prison 1902 01:16:27,686 --> 01:16:29,274 for money laundering offenses 1903 01:16:29,308 --> 01:16:32,967 related to paying off his pedophile victims. 1904 01:16:33,002 --> 01:16:34,590 People that he had victimized 1905 01:16:34,624 --> 01:16:36,074 when they were young, underage. 1906 01:16:36,108 --> 01:16:37,972 Why are you still friends with Dennis Hastert? 1907 01:16:38,007 --> 01:16:40,803 He is a pedophile, he did go to prison. 1908 01:16:40,837 --> 01:16:43,288 The media didn't want to ask those questions. 1909 01:16:43,322 --> 01:16:45,670 And in a way, that's probably why, 1910 01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:47,775 Pizzagate probably got out of control 1911 01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:49,432 because the media actually refused to ask the questions. 1912 01:16:49,466 --> 01:16:52,504 - The shooting incident shows how a fake news story 1913 01:16:52,538 --> 01:16:55,300 can lead to a real life threatening situation. 1914 01:16:55,334 --> 01:16:56,991 Devastating consequences. 1915 01:16:57,026 --> 01:16:58,372 - Real world consequences. 1916 01:16:58,406 --> 01:16:59,925 - I mean, it seemed to me as if 1917 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:01,478 the media had been giving us marching orders. 1918 01:17:01,513 --> 01:17:02,790 Fake news, they insisted, 1919 01:17:02,825 --> 01:17:05,034 was an imminent threat to American democracy. 1920 01:17:05,068 --> 01:17:06,380 - A threat to democracy. 1921 01:17:06,414 --> 01:17:08,520 - The dangers to democracy are obvious. 1922 01:17:08,554 --> 01:17:10,626 - Who invented the phrase fake news 1923 01:17:10,660 --> 01:17:12,006 in its modern context? 1924 01:17:12,041 --> 01:17:13,663 Who wanted to control the information 1925 01:17:13,698 --> 01:17:16,114 we were receiving on the internet and on the news and why? 1926 01:17:16,148 --> 01:17:18,012 - Fake news is a phrase 1927 01:17:18,047 --> 01:17:20,843 I had never ever ever heard in my life, 1928 01:17:20,877 --> 01:17:23,293 and I don't think any American had heard in their lives 1929 01:17:23,328 --> 01:17:26,020 until a month after the election. 1930 01:17:27,539 --> 01:17:29,368 And if you look, you can go on Google trends or something, 1931 01:17:29,403 --> 01:17:31,060 and you can type in fake news. 1932 01:17:31,094 --> 01:17:33,545 And you can see a chart for how many times 1933 01:17:33,579 --> 01:17:35,685 that phrase was mentioned on the internet. 1934 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,241 But the chart has, you know, zero mentions ever. 1935 01:17:40,276 --> 01:17:42,036 And then all at once. 1936 01:17:43,106 --> 01:17:44,349 It skyrockets. 1937 01:17:44,383 --> 01:17:46,869 - On September 13th, 2016, 1938 01:17:46,903 --> 01:17:49,734 a nonprofit called First Draft announced a partnership 1939 01:17:49,768 --> 01:17:53,841 to tackle malicious hoaxes and fake news reports. 1940 01:17:53,876 --> 01:17:55,187 If you follow the money, 1941 01:17:55,222 --> 01:17:56,602 you often get a lot of answers to questions. 1942 01:17:56,637 --> 01:17:59,605 So I want to know who is behind the funding 1943 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,607 for that nonprofit First Draft. 1944 01:18:01,642 --> 01:18:04,024 And its anti-fake news campaign. 1945 01:18:04,058 --> 01:18:07,268 It turns out the funding came from Google. 1946 01:18:07,303 --> 01:18:08,925 Google's parent company Alphabet 1947 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,066 was headed at the time by a man name Eric Schmidt, 1948 01:18:12,101 --> 01:18:13,723 who happens to have devoted himself 1949 01:18:13,758 --> 01:18:15,587 to Hillary Clinton's election campaign, 1950 01:18:15,621 --> 01:18:18,003 offered himself up as a strategist to her campaign, 1951 01:18:18,038 --> 01:18:20,281 and is listed as her number one campaign donor 1952 01:18:20,316 --> 01:18:21,869 through his company, Alphabet. 1953 01:18:21,904 --> 01:18:24,596 So his company funded this nonprofit First Draft 1954 01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:27,047 around the start of the election cycle. 1955 01:18:27,081 --> 01:18:27,875 - Why is that the case? 1956 01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:29,187 'Cause Google is a search engine. 1957 01:18:29,221 --> 01:18:30,844 It's a tech company. 1958 01:18:30,878 --> 01:18:33,225 What's Google doing palling around with Hillary Clinton 1959 01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:34,571 and the state department and the government 1960 01:18:34,606 --> 01:18:36,746 and all these deep state people? 1961 01:18:36,781 --> 01:18:38,886 - Was the whole anti-fake news campaign 1962 01:18:38,921 --> 01:18:41,440 an attempt to shape our views, 1963 01:18:41,475 --> 01:18:43,891 and limit our access to certain information 1964 01:18:43,926 --> 01:18:46,963 by labeling selected website and stories as fake 1965 01:18:46,998 --> 01:18:47,964 and controversial-izing them. 1966 01:18:47,999 --> 01:18:49,586 - And it's totally a sign-up. 1967 01:18:49,621 --> 01:18:50,795 It's totally a sign-up. 1968 01:18:50,829 --> 01:18:52,969 Since the fake news meme got going, 1969 01:18:53,004 --> 01:18:55,765 Facebook started labeling certain news stories 1970 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,905 from alternative media outlets fake news, 1971 01:18:57,940 --> 01:19:00,977 and so you know, if they can't ban the First Amendment 1972 01:19:02,082 --> 01:19:03,946 straight out right away, 1973 01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:05,982 they go for plan B, which is discredit anybody 1974 01:19:06,017 --> 01:19:07,294 that isn't themselves, 1975 01:19:07,328 --> 01:19:09,675 and to get them banned semi-legally 1976 01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:11,056 with stuff like Facebook. 1977 01:19:11,091 --> 01:19:13,645 Which is basically a monopoly at this point. 1978 01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:16,061 There are no real competitors to Facebook in this country, 1979 01:19:16,096 --> 01:19:17,442 or Twitter, or Google. 1980 01:19:17,476 --> 01:19:21,239 If you get kicked off these big Silicon Valley platforms, 1981 01:19:21,273 --> 01:19:22,585 you're basically fucked. 1982 01:19:22,619 --> 01:19:24,621 - Facebook and other social media sites 1983 01:19:24,656 --> 01:19:26,589 are being criticized for not doing enough 1984 01:19:26,623 --> 01:19:28,073 to stop bogus stories. 1985 01:19:28,108 --> 01:19:30,110 - This week, social media giants 1986 01:19:30,144 --> 01:19:31,421 Facebook and Google 1987 01:19:31,456 --> 01:19:34,010 said they will go after hoax websites 1988 01:19:34,045 --> 01:19:36,116 by restricting ad revenue. 1989 01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:40,085 - Almost 100% of our videos 1990 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,019 are demonetized as a punishment 1991 01:19:43,054 --> 01:19:46,091 for what we are politically doing. 1992 01:19:50,751 --> 01:19:54,341 So simultaneously, the corporate media demonizes us 1993 01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:56,101 for direct selling products, 1994 01:19:56,136 --> 01:19:57,862 so we can fund our operation, 1995 01:19:57,896 --> 01:20:00,830 while Google had us banned off Google ads, 1996 01:20:00,865 --> 01:20:04,489 and while they have demonetized us 95% 1997 01:20:04,523 --> 01:20:06,146 for our political views. 1998 01:20:06,180 --> 01:20:08,700 So they want me to just go to the gulag, shut up, 1999 01:20:08,734 --> 01:20:11,289 go bankrupt, shut down, and stop having my speech. 2000 01:20:11,323 --> 01:20:12,566 And I'm not gonna do it. 2001 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,361 - I think the end game in America 2002 01:20:14,395 --> 01:20:17,191 is European-style hate speech laws. 2003 01:20:17,226 --> 01:20:19,021 A lot of people in America don't know this, 2004 01:20:19,055 --> 01:20:22,472 but in Germany and Sweden and the UK and in France, 2005 01:20:22,507 --> 01:20:25,165 you've had ordinary people go to prison 2006 01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:27,857 for making anti-immigration or anti-Islam 2007 01:20:27,892 --> 01:20:29,859 posts on Facebook. 2008 01:20:29,894 --> 01:20:32,137 - Sweden should be a canary in the coal mine 2009 01:20:32,172 --> 01:20:33,967 for the rest of us. 2010 01:20:34,001 --> 01:20:36,038 The police have just warned us that if we don't leave now 2011 01:20:36,072 --> 01:20:37,246 and take this escort, 2012 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,868 it's gonna get really bad really fast. 2013 01:20:38,903 --> 01:20:41,008 They said 50 people could be here in minutes, 2014 01:20:41,043 --> 01:20:42,182 and they recognize us. 2015 01:20:42,216 --> 01:20:43,217 They're masking up. 2016 01:20:43,252 --> 01:20:44,149 We have to leave. 2017 01:20:44,184 --> 01:20:45,702 And when I go to Stockholm, 2018 01:20:45,737 --> 01:20:48,257 and actually get escorted out by the police, 2019 01:20:48,291 --> 01:20:51,156 the media in Sweden claimed I wasn't 2020 01:20:51,191 --> 01:20:52,744 escorted out by the police. 2021 01:20:52,778 --> 01:20:56,230 Well, no, I have GoPro footage as I was walking out. 2022 01:20:56,265 --> 01:20:59,095 I took my Gimble and started filming the police behind me. 2023 01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:02,236 Yet the mainstream media, the Swedish media, 2024 01:21:02,271 --> 01:21:03,720 reported the police perspective 2025 01:21:03,755 --> 01:21:05,343 that I was wrong, that I was lying. 2026 01:21:05,377 --> 01:21:06,723 And then immediately started attacking me. 2027 01:21:06,758 --> 01:21:07,690 I started getting phone calls. 2028 01:21:07,724 --> 01:21:10,037 My phone would not stop ringing. 2029 01:21:10,072 --> 01:21:11,936 They started sharing my phone number with each other. 2030 01:21:11,970 --> 01:21:13,385 I kid you not. 2031 01:21:13,420 --> 01:21:15,905 And so I actually went on a national television program. 2032 01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:17,873 - So welcome to Opinion Live. 2033 01:21:17,907 --> 01:21:19,081 - They had scheduled me on this program 2034 01:21:19,115 --> 01:21:21,014 before I went to Rinkeby. 2035 01:21:21,048 --> 01:21:22,394 But when I went on, 2036 01:21:22,429 --> 01:21:24,051 they asked me to explain what happened in Rinkeby. 2037 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:25,604 They first said that the police 2038 01:21:25,639 --> 01:21:28,228 have disputed my claims that I was escorted out, 2039 01:21:28,262 --> 01:21:30,195 and asked me to clarify, 2040 01:21:30,230 --> 01:21:34,027 to which I responded basically how I just did, 2041 01:21:34,061 --> 01:21:36,201 and she responded in Swedish, 2042 01:21:36,236 --> 01:21:38,031 instead of saying what I said, 2043 01:21:38,065 --> 01:21:40,102 she said, "He's talking about Rinkeby, 2044 01:21:40,136 --> 01:21:42,449 "but the police have disputed what he is saying, 2045 01:21:42,483 --> 01:21:44,037 "and say that he is lying." 2046 01:21:44,071 --> 01:21:45,935 They didn't even tell the audience what I said. 2047 01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:50,146 They just said I was a liar. 2048 01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:51,285 I have talked with people 2049 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,115 who have visited Sweden on vacation, 2050 01:21:53,149 --> 01:21:54,771 and you know what they tell me? 2051 01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:56,670 They tell me it's the North Korea of the North. 2052 01:21:56,704 --> 01:21:58,983 One of the largest newspapers, Expressin, 2053 01:21:59,017 --> 01:22:03,435 hacked a comment system to find anonymous posters. 2054 01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:05,161 They find their names and addresses. 2055 01:22:05,196 --> 01:22:08,164 They go to the homes of private individuals, 2056 01:22:08,199 --> 01:22:09,959 film their faces, and accuse them 2057 01:22:09,994 --> 01:22:12,134 of being white supremacists. 2058 01:22:12,168 --> 01:22:14,274 Sure enough, these people lose their jobs. 2059 01:22:14,308 --> 01:22:15,344 They lose all their friends. 2060 01:22:15,378 --> 01:22:16,690 People are scared to interact with them. 2061 01:22:16,724 --> 01:22:19,175 Many people, it's not so much about being scared 2062 01:22:19,210 --> 01:22:20,107 to interact with them because 2063 01:22:20,142 --> 01:22:21,143 they don't like their opinions. 2064 01:22:21,177 --> 01:22:23,248 It's because they'll also get blacklisted. 2065 01:22:23,283 --> 01:22:24,594 - They're gonna come after you, 2066 01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:26,286 and they're gonna try and whip up a hate mob 2067 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,701 and get you fired from your job, 2068 01:22:27,735 --> 01:22:29,668 ostracized from your community. 2069 01:22:29,703 --> 01:22:31,256 They're gonna smear you. 2070 01:22:31,291 --> 01:22:32,499 They're gonna call you a neo-Nazi white supremacist. 2071 01:22:32,533 --> 01:22:34,259 They're gonna call you a conspiracy theorist. 2072 01:22:34,294 --> 01:22:36,158 They're gonna call you a Russian agent. 2073 01:22:36,192 --> 01:22:38,850 They're gonna do everything they can to shut you down. 2074 01:22:44,235 --> 01:22:46,858 - And in the face of this unprecedented censorship, 2075 01:22:46,892 --> 01:22:48,998 we've only seen support grow. 2076 01:22:49,033 --> 01:22:50,344 That's why they lie worse than ever. 2077 01:22:50,379 --> 01:22:52,691 That's why they're so hysterical. 2078 01:22:52,726 --> 01:22:54,210 It's why they're so angry, so hateful. 2079 01:22:54,245 --> 01:22:56,316 - Then along came Donald Trump. 2080 01:22:56,350 --> 01:22:58,456 The wild card. 2081 01:22:58,490 --> 01:23:00,216 Probably the only politician that could have 2082 01:23:00,251 --> 01:23:02,149 or would have been able to change this dynamic 2083 01:23:02,184 --> 01:23:04,462 and kind of turn the campaign on its head. 2084 01:23:04,496 --> 01:23:07,568 Each time advocates cried fake news, 2085 01:23:07,603 --> 01:23:10,123 Donald Trump called them fake news. 2086 01:23:10,157 --> 01:23:11,538 - We were able to turn fake news 2087 01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,195 back on them almost instantly. 2088 01:23:13,229 --> 01:23:14,679 Of course with the help of 2089 01:23:14,713 --> 01:23:17,026 President Doctor Donald J. Trump, PhD, 2090 01:23:17,061 --> 01:23:18,407 which is what I call him now. 2091 01:23:18,441 --> 01:23:20,305 Because he started calling the mainstream media fake news. 2092 01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:21,341 - Since you are attacking 2093 01:23:21,375 --> 01:23:22,652 our news organization. - No, not you, not you. 2094 01:23:22,687 --> 01:23:23,895 - Can you give us a chance? 2095 01:23:23,929 --> 01:23:24,827 - Your organization is terrible. 2096 01:23:24,861 --> 01:23:25,828 - You're attacking, President elect, 2097 01:23:25,862 --> 01:23:27,174 can you give us a question? - Don't be rude. 2098 01:23:27,209 --> 01:23:28,175 - You're attacking us. 2099 01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:29,383 Can you give us a question? - Don't be rude. 2100 01:23:29,418 --> 01:23:31,040 - Can you give us a question? - No I'm not gonna 2101 01:23:31,075 --> 01:23:31,903 give you a question. 2102 01:23:31,937 --> 01:23:32,835 I'm not gonna give you a question. 2103 01:23:32,869 --> 01:23:33,767 - Can you state categorically-- 2104 01:23:33,801 --> 01:23:34,595 - You are fake news. 2105 01:23:34,630 --> 01:23:35,769 The news is fake. 2106 01:23:35,803 --> 01:23:37,046 Fake media, the failing New York Times. 2107 01:23:37,081 --> 01:23:37,874 Fake news. 2108 01:23:37,909 --> 01:23:39,048 Very fake news. 2109 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:40,222 They should be ashamed of themselves. 2110 01:23:41,223 --> 01:23:42,224 Watch how the crowd. 2111 01:23:42,258 --> 01:23:43,363 Donald Trump is-- 2112 01:23:43,397 --> 01:23:44,778 - You know I've been hearing more and more 2113 01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:46,331 about a thing called fake news. 2114 01:23:46,366 --> 01:23:47,953 But I will tell you, some of the media outlets 2115 01:23:47,988 --> 01:23:50,059 that I deal with are fake news. 2116 01:23:54,408 --> 01:23:55,168 Look at this! 2117 01:23:55,202 --> 01:23:56,238 President Trump-- 2118 01:23:56,272 --> 01:23:57,929 - And so as soon as they introduced the idea 2119 01:23:57,963 --> 01:23:59,620 that news can be fake, 2120 01:23:59,655 --> 01:24:01,415 it was turned against them almost immediately. 2121 01:24:03,452 --> 01:24:05,040 The ring just imploded! 2122 01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,558 - The official presidential tweet 2123 01:24:06,593 --> 01:24:08,560 is an old wrestling video takedown 2124 01:24:08,595 --> 01:24:10,252 with businessman Trump, 2125 01:24:10,286 --> 01:24:12,357 doctored with the CNN logo 2126 01:24:12,392 --> 01:24:14,118 covering the face of his victim. 2127 01:24:15,326 --> 01:24:18,708 - When Trump posted the CNN of wrestling meme, 2128 01:24:18,743 --> 01:24:20,124 it was absolutely hilarious. 2129 01:24:20,158 --> 01:24:21,263 It was great. 2130 01:24:21,297 --> 01:24:22,574 Memes are funny. 2131 01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:23,782 There's really no other way to put it. 2132 01:24:23,817 --> 01:24:26,268 Memes are fucking hilarious. 2133 01:24:26,302 --> 01:24:28,373 Anonymous internet memes are for a lot of people 2134 01:24:28,408 --> 01:24:31,376 the only way to get exposed to what's the truth. 2135 01:24:31,411 --> 01:24:32,757 And the reason people are anonymous 2136 01:24:32,791 --> 01:24:33,965 and why it's so powerful is because 2137 01:24:33,999 --> 01:24:35,208 if you're not anonymous, 2138 01:24:35,242 --> 01:24:37,796 and you don't have fuck you money basically, 2139 01:24:37,831 --> 01:24:39,246 the media is gonna come after you, 2140 01:24:39,281 --> 01:24:42,215 like they came after the guy who posted 2141 01:24:42,249 --> 01:24:44,907 the CNN wrestling meme that Donald Trump tweeted. 2142 01:24:44,941 --> 01:24:47,461 - Did you just see this Trump thing, the CNN thing? 2143 01:24:47,496 --> 01:24:49,429 - CNN tracked down the dude 2144 01:24:49,463 --> 01:24:51,327 who posted the Trump wrestling video. 2145 01:24:51,362 --> 01:24:53,122 - They threatened to dox this kid. 2146 01:24:53,157 --> 01:24:54,744 - CNN said they wouldn't publish the guy's name 2147 01:24:54,779 --> 01:24:56,332 'cause he had already apologized, 2148 01:24:56,367 --> 01:24:58,921 and also because he promised he wouldn't do it again. 2149 01:24:58,955 --> 01:25:01,337 But then CNN adds, they reserve the right 2150 01:25:01,372 --> 01:25:02,752 to publish his identity 2151 01:25:02,787 --> 01:25:04,340 should any of that change. 2152 01:25:04,375 --> 01:25:06,101 Apparently the guy posted some pretty 2153 01:25:06,135 --> 01:25:08,482 bad stuff in the past, but come on CNN. 2154 01:25:08,517 --> 01:25:10,139 You're starting to creep us out. 2155 01:25:10,174 --> 01:25:11,416 - I don't think they have a choice, 2156 01:25:11,451 --> 01:25:12,693 except to step it up. 2157 01:25:12,728 --> 01:25:15,627 Because we're really in an existential battle 2158 01:25:15,662 --> 01:25:16,663 for the meaning of free speech 2159 01:25:16,697 --> 01:25:18,320 and for the meaning of truth. 2160 01:25:18,354 --> 01:25:20,149 - People have gotten a very very skewed 2161 01:25:20,184 --> 01:25:21,633 line of free speech today. 2162 01:25:21,668 --> 01:25:23,187 The skewed definition. 2163 01:25:23,221 --> 01:25:26,431 They think that free speech and hate speech 2164 01:25:26,466 --> 01:25:29,020 are two different things. 2165 01:25:29,054 --> 01:25:30,366 Which it's absolutely not. 2166 01:25:30,401 --> 01:25:31,436 Hate speech is free speech. 2167 01:25:31,471 --> 01:25:32,679 It's the ability to express yourself, 2168 01:25:32,713 --> 01:25:35,060 whether someone finds it hateful or not. 2169 01:25:35,095 --> 01:25:36,441 - My position is very simple. 2170 01:25:36,476 --> 01:25:38,719 There are just three genders. 2171 01:25:39,824 --> 01:25:41,446 There's man. 2172 01:25:41,481 --> 01:25:42,516 Woman. 2173 01:25:43,552 --> 01:25:44,380 And retarded. 2174 01:25:44,415 --> 01:25:46,037 - You should be allowed to say 2175 01:25:46,071 --> 01:25:48,384 the most offensive things on Earth in free speech. 2176 01:25:48,419 --> 01:25:49,661 - This young man is retarded. 2177 01:25:49,696 --> 01:25:51,525 America's first first man. 2178 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,182 - One self-proclaimed internet troll, 2179 01:25:53,217 --> 01:25:57,531 Milo Yiannopolis, tells us he's unapologetic and proud, 2180 01:25:57,566 --> 01:25:59,499 even after being banned from Twitter 2181 01:25:59,533 --> 01:26:01,466 for his infamous online taunting 2182 01:26:01,501 --> 01:26:04,089 of "Ghostbusters" star Leslie Jones. 2183 01:26:04,124 --> 01:26:05,470 - In the Twitter storm that happened. 2184 01:26:05,505 --> 01:26:07,990 - Sure, I was mean. - You called her a dude. 2185 01:26:08,024 --> 01:26:09,198 - I said it was a good job 2186 01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:10,475 there was a hot black dude in the movie. 2187 01:26:10,510 --> 01:26:11,856 She looks like a man. 2188 01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:14,341 I am entitled to say that I think a celebrity looks weird. 2189 01:26:14,376 --> 01:26:17,724 - I feel like things are going even more and more 2190 01:26:17,758 --> 01:26:20,002 to each extreme. 2191 01:26:20,036 --> 01:26:21,590 - Join us in protest! 2192 01:26:21,624 --> 01:26:23,385 And shut down Milo Yiannopolis. 2193 01:26:23,419 --> 01:26:25,180 - Milo was touring the country for a bit, 2194 01:26:25,214 --> 01:26:26,733 and every place he went, 2195 01:26:26,767 --> 01:26:28,493 there was period blood being thrown. 2196 01:26:28,528 --> 01:26:30,495 There was girls screaming outside, 2197 01:26:30,530 --> 01:26:32,256 smashing garbage cans on the ground. 2198 01:26:32,290 --> 01:26:34,223 There were people trying to punch him on stage. 2199 01:26:34,258 --> 01:26:36,087 And then eventually, 2200 01:26:36,121 --> 01:26:38,641 liberals just took it to a whole new extreme. 2201 01:26:41,575 --> 01:26:46,131 And that was at Berkeley. 2202 01:26:54,795 --> 01:26:58,143 - I was here this evening to speak at UC Berkeley. 2203 01:26:58,178 --> 01:27:00,422 I'm just sitting in a hotel room, stunned, 2204 01:27:00,456 --> 01:27:04,253 that hundreds of people were throwing rocks, 2205 01:27:04,288 --> 01:27:07,083 throwing goodness knows what else 2206 01:27:07,118 --> 01:27:08,947 at the building, throwing fireworks at the police. 2207 01:27:08,982 --> 01:27:11,087 Because they're so threatened by the idea 2208 01:27:11,122 --> 01:27:12,434 that a conservative speaker might be 2209 01:27:12,468 --> 01:27:14,090 persuasive and interesting and funny. 2210 01:27:14,125 --> 01:27:16,334 They just have to shut it down at all costs. 2211 01:27:17,611 --> 01:27:18,612 - I'm a gay Trump supporter. 2212 01:27:18,647 --> 01:27:20,752 I wanted to go watch a gay Trump supporter. 2213 01:27:20,787 --> 01:27:23,583 I think Milo is absolutely hilarious. 2214 01:27:24,791 --> 01:27:26,482 We met up at a coffee shop across the street from Berkeley, 2215 01:27:26,517 --> 01:27:28,553 and I was just waiting for my friends to trickle in, 2216 01:27:28,588 --> 01:27:31,660 and it was just all these antifa people were already there. 2217 01:27:31,694 --> 01:27:34,179 So they're already kind of flirting 2218 01:27:34,214 --> 01:27:35,733 with the idea of violence. 2219 01:27:35,767 --> 01:27:38,287 - So antifa was a group that was started 2220 01:27:38,322 --> 01:27:41,601 in the early 1900s in Germany, obviously, 2221 01:27:41,635 --> 01:27:43,775 as an anti-fascist group, 2222 01:27:43,810 --> 01:27:46,330 but they were the violent militant wing 2223 01:27:46,364 --> 01:27:48,746 of the Communist party in Germany. 2224 01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:51,473 And as they continued on, 2225 01:27:51,507 --> 01:27:52,819 they still have the same message. 2226 01:27:52,853 --> 01:27:56,029 They're communists that believe in 2227 01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,618 destroying anything they deem to be fascism 2228 01:27:58,652 --> 01:28:00,792 through any means possible. 2229 01:28:00,827 --> 01:28:02,794 - They're screaming hey fascists, hey Nazi. 2230 01:28:02,829 --> 01:28:04,589 I forget the particular slogans 2231 01:28:04,624 --> 01:28:06,350 that they're all chanting in unison. 2232 01:28:08,559 --> 01:28:10,595 The irony of it is because I was so naive, 2233 01:28:10,630 --> 01:28:11,493 I kind of, 2234 01:28:13,046 --> 01:28:16,187 I kind of thought that I could connect with these people 2235 01:28:16,221 --> 01:28:17,878 and say look, I don't support those things either, 2236 01:28:17,913 --> 01:28:18,810 and they would just immediately 2237 01:28:18,845 --> 01:28:20,605 understand and believe me. 2238 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,366 But you know, symbols are more 2239 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,195 powerful than words sometimes. 2240 01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:26,024 And you're wearing the wrong piece of clothing, 2241 01:28:26,059 --> 01:28:27,440 and it's just not gonna do. 2242 01:28:27,474 --> 01:28:28,682 I mean, props to them for the ones 2243 01:28:28,717 --> 01:28:29,683 who are doing it nonviolently, 2244 01:28:29,718 --> 01:28:31,133 but I think that's a very rare thing indeed. 2245 01:28:31,167 --> 01:28:32,341 So thank you. 2246 01:28:32,376 --> 01:28:34,309 Are you surprised? 2247 01:28:34,343 --> 01:28:35,655 Ma'am? 2248 01:28:35,689 --> 01:28:37,139 - And then two minutes after that, 2249 01:28:37,173 --> 01:28:39,072 bare maced again. 2250 01:28:39,106 --> 01:28:40,556 Beat with flag poles. 2251 01:28:40,591 --> 01:28:42,558 My friend got put in the hospital. 2252 01:28:42,593 --> 01:28:45,009 And that actually didn't air anywhere. 2253 01:28:50,946 --> 01:28:51,912 - That's wild. 2254 01:28:51,947 --> 01:28:53,328 - Never reported in the media. 2255 01:28:54,363 --> 01:28:56,089 - I have been wanting to have this conversation 2256 01:28:56,123 --> 01:28:57,090 because this has been a big issue 2257 01:28:57,124 --> 01:28:58,678 about free speech on campus 2258 01:28:58,712 --> 01:29:00,576 and conservative voices being heard. 2259 01:29:00,611 --> 01:29:02,095 Mr. Rice, my first question to you is, 2260 01:29:02,129 --> 01:29:03,476 is the violence that we saw, 2261 01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:04,511 this violence we saw at Berkeley. 2262 01:29:04,546 --> 01:29:06,686 We had it live here on CNN last night. 2263 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,583 It ultimately, does it, 2264 01:29:07,618 --> 01:29:09,378 it plays right into the hands 2265 01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:11,587 of a right wing, white supremacist, 2266 01:29:11,622 --> 01:29:13,727 someone like Milo Yiannopolis. 2267 01:29:13,762 --> 01:29:15,660 - Like I told the news woman over there that like 2268 01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:17,524 specifically it was their narrative. 2269 01:29:17,559 --> 01:29:18,732 They were a part of this. 2270 01:29:18,767 --> 01:29:20,838 It was their narrative that was causing 2271 01:29:20,872 --> 01:29:22,115 the violence on the left. 2272 01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:23,427 This is not to remove personal responsibility 2273 01:29:23,461 --> 01:29:25,705 from the actual people that do the violence, 2274 01:29:25,739 --> 01:29:28,604 but they pretend to be objective. 2275 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:30,226 And that's the part. 2276 01:29:30,261 --> 01:29:32,781 And they implant these ideas in your head, 2277 01:29:32,815 --> 01:29:34,403 and they'll say things like, 2278 01:29:34,438 --> 01:29:36,750 well some people call these people white nationalists. 2279 01:29:36,785 --> 01:29:38,580 Do they ask any of the people there? 2280 01:29:38,614 --> 01:29:40,961 No, because that would actually be real journalism. 2281 01:29:40,996 --> 01:29:42,549 - The real problem is this name calling 2282 01:29:42,584 --> 01:29:44,965 because you know, as grateful as I am to be on the show 2283 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,311 and I like the attention, 2284 01:29:46,346 --> 01:29:47,692 the real people that I want to hear from 2285 01:29:47,727 --> 01:29:50,281 are the guys who run CNN 2286 01:29:50,315 --> 01:29:52,697 who are legitimizing ordinary conservatives 2287 01:29:52,732 --> 01:29:55,320 being called white supremacists, anti-Semites, 2288 01:29:55,355 --> 01:29:56,736 racist, sexist, when they're not. 2289 01:29:56,770 --> 01:29:59,428 There's an inevitable obvious consequence. 2290 01:29:59,463 --> 01:30:01,810 - The things that had been said about Donald Trump 2291 01:30:01,844 --> 01:30:04,399 led to extreme violence. 2292 01:30:05,814 --> 01:30:06,746 - In Donald Trump's America, 2293 01:30:06,780 --> 01:30:08,333 everyone is speculating as to who 2294 01:30:08,368 --> 01:30:09,714 should be the most afraid. 2295 01:30:09,749 --> 01:30:11,129 Black people, Latinos. 2296 01:30:11,164 --> 01:30:13,338 - We gravel every day with that it means 2297 01:30:13,373 --> 01:30:15,617 to have a president stained by racism. 2298 01:30:15,651 --> 01:30:16,583 - You voted Trump! 2299 01:30:16,618 --> 01:30:17,757 You voted Trump! 2300 01:30:17,791 --> 01:30:19,137 - I'm just gonna be honest. 2301 01:30:19,172 --> 01:30:20,829 We think there might be a Nazi in the White House. 2302 01:30:20,863 --> 01:30:22,762 - He is a bigot, he is a racist, 2303 01:30:22,796 --> 01:30:24,349 he is a misogynist. 2304 01:30:24,384 --> 01:30:26,766 - The president's crude and arguably racist remarks. 2305 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,492 - The president has racist views. 2306 01:30:29,872 --> 01:30:31,184 - I'm a Bernie supporter, but they attacked me. 2307 01:30:31,218 --> 01:30:32,427 - Who did? 2308 01:30:32,461 --> 01:30:33,807 - They did, they thought I was a Trump support, I wasn't. 2309 01:30:33,842 --> 01:30:36,810 - Tens of millions of people voted for him 2310 01:30:36,845 --> 01:30:39,848 after he showed his cards, for years. 2311 01:30:39,882 --> 01:30:42,367 - Are you suggesting that they're racist? 2312 01:30:42,402 --> 01:30:43,645 - Absolutely, yes. 2313 01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:45,267 - That is pure racism. 2314 01:30:45,301 --> 01:30:47,856 And the president is cynically using 2315 01:30:47,890 --> 01:30:51,825 that racism to appeal to his base. 2316 01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:53,655 - If everyone is a white supremacist, 2317 01:30:53,689 --> 01:30:55,795 what does that even mean anymore, you know? 2318 01:30:55,829 --> 01:30:58,038 Are you just gonna accuse anyone who disagrees with you? 2319 01:30:58,073 --> 01:31:00,489 I have people who tell me that I'm a Nazi sympathizer 2320 01:31:00,524 --> 01:31:02,318 for being friends with Trump supporters, 2321 01:31:02,353 --> 01:31:04,320 or that I'm a racist. 2322 01:31:04,355 --> 01:31:06,184 And I'm actually a mixed race person. 2323 01:31:06,219 --> 01:31:08,117 It's like nuance has gone out the window, 2324 01:31:08,152 --> 01:31:09,602 and none of it matters anymore. 2325 01:31:09,636 --> 01:31:10,982 - Say you worked in a loony bin, 2326 01:31:11,017 --> 01:31:12,052 and there was this one guy going, 2327 01:31:12,087 --> 01:31:13,502 the Khmer Rouge are coming! 2328 01:31:13,537 --> 01:31:14,503 The Khmer Rouge are coming! 2329 01:31:14,538 --> 01:31:16,022 Polpot is upstairs. 2330 01:31:16,056 --> 01:31:17,679 The Khmer Rouge are gonna invade here. 2331 01:31:17,713 --> 01:31:19,991 We gotta stop the communists in Cambodia. 2332 01:31:20,026 --> 01:31:22,373 And you go, alright, Mr. McGuillocuddy, it's okay. 2333 01:31:22,407 --> 01:31:23,788 And you'd lead him to his room. 2334 01:31:23,823 --> 01:31:26,239 And you go, he was bitching about the Khmer Rouge again. 2335 01:31:26,273 --> 01:31:28,552 That's the way the media is with Nazis. 2336 01:31:28,586 --> 01:31:30,968 They see Nazis in their soup, they're everywhere. 2337 01:31:31,002 --> 01:31:32,728 - Now we have Nazi panic, 2338 01:31:32,763 --> 01:31:34,696 where even if you're a girl, they'll hit you. 2339 01:31:34,730 --> 01:31:36,318 It doesn't really matter. 2340 01:31:36,352 --> 01:31:37,733 That's what the media does. 2341 01:31:37,768 --> 01:31:40,736 There has been far more violence by antifa 2342 01:31:40,771 --> 01:31:43,187 against people they don't agree with, 2343 01:31:43,221 --> 01:31:44,740 especially Trump supporters, 2344 01:31:44,775 --> 01:31:46,984 than there has been violence by Trump supporters. 2345 01:31:47,018 --> 01:31:49,849 But the media covers up violence by antifa. 2346 01:31:49,883 --> 01:31:52,265 I've reported from the White House several times, 2347 01:31:52,299 --> 01:31:54,819 and on one visit, after the White House press 2348 01:31:54,854 --> 01:31:57,650 briefing had concluded, I looked over at 2349 01:31:57,684 --> 01:31:59,410 the assembled journalists and I said, 2350 01:31:59,444 --> 01:32:00,825 why will nobody here cover the violence 2351 01:32:00,860 --> 01:32:02,413 against Trump supporters? 2352 01:32:02,447 --> 01:32:03,828 And why won't you demand that leaders 2353 01:32:03,863 --> 01:32:06,900 of the democrats disavow the violence of antifa 2354 01:32:06,935 --> 01:32:08,833 the way you demanded Trump disavow 2355 01:32:08,868 --> 01:32:11,077 violence from his supporters? 2356 01:32:11,111 --> 01:32:13,182 This has been completely covered up. 2357 01:32:13,217 --> 01:32:14,114 They laughed at me. 2358 01:32:15,599 --> 01:32:16,910 They thought that I would care, 2359 01:32:16,945 --> 01:32:18,360 but their laughter actually proved 2360 01:32:18,394 --> 01:32:19,775 what I wanted to prove. 2361 01:32:19,810 --> 01:32:21,570 I wanted them to laugh at me. 2362 01:32:21,605 --> 01:32:22,882 Because then I could show people, 2363 01:32:22,916 --> 01:32:24,090 hey, this is what the media is all about. 2364 01:32:24,124 --> 01:32:26,023 They laugh at violence against people 2365 01:32:26,057 --> 01:32:27,542 if they don't like you. 2366 01:32:27,576 --> 01:32:29,716 - It's also not surprising that the right, 2367 01:32:29,751 --> 01:32:32,443 in a sense, retaliated, came back out, 2368 01:32:32,477 --> 01:32:37,482 held more events, to counter this use of violence by antifa. 2369 01:32:38,656 --> 01:32:40,451 We saw the rise of the base stick man. 2370 01:32:40,485 --> 01:32:42,971 You know, there's a video of him cracking a stick 2371 01:32:43,005 --> 01:32:45,801 over this antifa member's head. 2372 01:32:45,836 --> 01:32:47,423 And right then I'm like, 2373 01:32:47,458 --> 01:32:48,701 antifa is going to double down, 2374 01:32:48,735 --> 01:32:49,736 and they're gonna go nuts. 2375 01:32:49,771 --> 01:32:50,737 And that's where we saw antifa 2376 01:32:50,772 --> 01:32:52,877 throwing explosives into the crowd. 2377 01:32:52,912 --> 01:32:54,776 M80, M80! 2378 01:32:55,777 --> 01:32:57,088 Somebody from the antifa side 2379 01:32:57,123 --> 01:32:58,918 just threw an M80 into the crowd. 2380 01:32:58,952 --> 01:33:00,885 We heard a guy got stabbed in the chest. 2381 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,300 The bike lock basher Eric Clampton 2382 01:33:02,335 --> 01:33:04,717 hit seven people over the head with a bike lock. 2383 01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:07,443 - Mother fucker! 2384 01:33:07,478 --> 01:33:08,721 - If you were asking me, 2385 01:33:08,755 --> 01:33:09,998 I'd say that was an attempt to murder. 2386 01:33:11,482 --> 01:33:14,796 I guess, you know, it's sadly predictable. 2387 01:33:14,830 --> 01:33:16,521 That's the scary thing, you know. 2388 01:33:16,556 --> 01:33:18,316 And it looks like things are gonna escalate, 2389 01:33:18,351 --> 01:33:19,594 'cause nobody's gonna back down. 2390 01:33:19,628 --> 01:33:21,630 - And this is just the beginning. 2391 01:33:21,665 --> 01:33:22,942 Just the beginning, dude. 2392 01:33:22,976 --> 01:33:25,910 We're gonna come to every liberal stronghold, 2393 01:33:25,945 --> 01:33:28,844 every city, fucking Portland, Detroit. 2394 01:33:28,879 --> 01:33:31,985 All you cock suckers in fucking Boston, watch out. 2395 01:33:32,020 --> 01:33:32,952 We're coming for you. 2396 01:33:32,986 --> 01:33:35,817 - The area for rational discussion, 2397 01:33:35,851 --> 01:33:37,853 as that disappears more, 2398 01:33:37,888 --> 01:33:39,855 I think more people are going to be radicalized 2399 01:33:39,890 --> 01:33:41,546 to both extremes and think violence 2400 01:33:41,581 --> 01:33:45,378 is an acceptable way of protesting 2401 01:33:45,412 --> 01:33:48,208 their distaste for other peoples opinions. 2402 01:34:04,017 --> 01:34:07,469 - Imagine that your belief systems 2403 01:34:07,503 --> 01:34:09,057 are essentially maps of the world 2404 01:34:09,091 --> 01:34:11,853 that you use to orient yourself with. 2405 01:34:12,681 --> 01:34:14,027 News informs you. 2406 01:34:14,062 --> 01:34:16,823 If it's real news, it updates your map. 2407 01:34:16,858 --> 01:34:19,654 It brings you into alignment better. 2408 01:34:19,688 --> 01:34:20,689 There should be an alignment 2409 01:34:20,724 --> 01:34:22,380 between you and the world. 2410 01:34:22,415 --> 01:34:24,003 If you're properly informed. 2411 01:34:24,037 --> 01:34:26,005 - Handed almost unlimited power 2412 01:34:26,039 --> 01:34:28,732 to a fascist wannabe. 2413 01:34:28,766 --> 01:34:31,251 - Arrogant people, resentful people, 2414 01:34:31,286 --> 01:34:34,599 believe that deception works. 2415 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,191 That's just not the case. 2416 01:34:43,367 --> 01:34:44,886 When you act out a falsehood, 2417 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,370 then something terrible happens. 2418 01:34:46,404 --> 01:34:49,062 That's the definition of a falsehood fundamentally. 2419 01:34:50,063 --> 01:34:51,789 Falsehoods have consequences. 2420 01:34:52,928 --> 01:34:54,689 That's what makes them false. 2421 01:34:55,793 --> 01:34:57,795 And you can not believe that, it's fine. 2422 01:34:59,107 --> 01:35:01,626 You can even get away with it for some period of time. 2423 01:35:03,111 --> 01:35:06,942 But you're not gonna get away with it for very long. 2424 01:35:11,775 --> 01:35:12,914 - The latest developments 2425 01:35:12,948 --> 01:35:15,571 in the shooting of a Republican congressman and others 2426 01:35:15,606 --> 01:35:18,022 at a baseball practice outside of Washington. 2427 01:35:18,057 --> 01:35:20,438 - Congressman Steve Scalise has been shot. 2428 01:35:20,473 --> 01:35:22,820 - Apparently deliberately targeting the GOP. 2429 01:35:25,167 --> 01:35:26,962 - There was a shooting by a Bernie Sanders supporter 2430 01:35:26,997 --> 01:35:28,584 and pro-antifa person 2431 01:35:28,619 --> 01:35:31,035 at a congressional baseball practice 2432 01:35:31,070 --> 01:35:32,450 called the Scalise shooting now. 2433 01:35:32,485 --> 01:35:34,142 - He cursed President Trump, 2434 01:35:34,176 --> 01:35:36,213 labeled the president a traitor, 2435 01:35:36,247 --> 01:35:39,319 and called for his destruction in several Facebook posts. 2436 01:35:39,354 --> 01:35:40,631 - And then the mainstream media, 2437 01:35:40,665 --> 01:35:41,597 they acted like they really cared. 2438 01:35:41,632 --> 01:35:42,909 Oh, they really cared. 2439 01:35:42,944 --> 01:35:44,221 - The shooter died from his injuries 2440 01:35:44,255 --> 01:35:45,878 after the shootout with capital police. 2441 01:35:45,912 --> 01:35:49,260 News that we first were told by President Trump himself 2442 01:35:49,295 --> 01:35:52,125 who had a somber and reflective 2443 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,678 message for the nation. 2444 01:35:53,713 --> 01:35:54,645 - No, the people know. 2445 01:35:54,679 --> 01:35:56,129 The people watch them laughed 2446 01:35:56,164 --> 01:35:58,131 when they were asked about violence. 2447 01:35:58,166 --> 01:36:00,444 They know that the media wants more shootings. 2448 01:36:00,478 --> 01:36:02,239 - Obviously everybody is wishing the congressman well 2449 01:36:02,273 --> 01:36:04,103 and hoping that he recovers. - Sure, sure. 2450 01:36:04,137 --> 01:36:05,794 - But Steve Scalise has a history 2451 01:36:05,829 --> 01:36:09,798 that we've all been forced to sort of ignore on race. 2452 01:36:09,833 --> 01:36:12,249 He did come to leadership after some controversy 2453 01:36:12,283 --> 01:36:15,114 over attending a white nationalist event. 2454 01:36:15,148 --> 01:36:16,460 - They want people to get shot, 2455 01:36:16,494 --> 01:36:18,669 because they act as a propaganda arm for antifa, 2456 01:36:18,703 --> 01:36:20,429 which is a domestic terrorist group, 2457 01:36:20,464 --> 01:36:22,535 under investigation by the FBI, 2458 01:36:22,569 --> 01:36:24,640 and they laugh at violence against people 2459 01:36:24,675 --> 01:36:26,125 they don't agree with politically. 2460 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:27,678 - The New York Times interviewed 2461 01:36:27,712 --> 01:36:29,714 the suspect's brother, who said the 66 year old 2462 01:36:29,749 --> 01:36:32,441 was upset over the election of President Trump. 2463 01:36:32,476 --> 01:36:35,651 And went to Washington within the last few weeks to protest. 2464 01:36:38,585 --> 01:36:41,554 - Our axiomatic systems orient us in the world 2465 01:36:41,588 --> 01:36:43,832 and regulate our emotions. 2466 01:36:43,867 --> 01:36:45,040 Donald J. Trump is now 2467 01:36:45,075 --> 01:36:46,835 President of the United States. 2468 01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:48,354 - No! 2469 01:36:48,388 --> 01:36:52,634 - So when something axiomatically impossible happens, 2470 01:36:52,668 --> 01:36:55,568 people are going to scramble to find reasons 2471 01:36:55,602 --> 01:36:58,157 that don't require retooling of their world view. 2472 01:36:58,191 --> 01:37:00,849 And it's no wonder 'cause they're avoiding, 2473 01:37:00,884 --> 01:37:02,161 in archetypal terms, 2474 01:37:02,195 --> 01:37:05,026 they're avoiding an involuntary dissent to the underworld. 2475 01:37:05,060 --> 01:37:06,234 And even to hell. 2476 01:37:07,407 --> 01:37:08,719 That's also why people fight so hard 2477 01:37:08,753 --> 01:37:10,825 to protect not only their belief systems, 2478 01:37:10,859 --> 01:37:12,378 but their social systems. 2479 01:37:12,412 --> 01:37:15,415 Often, that means accusing someone else. 2480 01:37:15,450 --> 01:37:16,623 - Trump is a Nazi! 2481 01:37:17,624 --> 01:37:19,834 Trump is a Nazi! 2482 01:37:19,868 --> 01:37:21,974 - Because then they have to change in our view. 2483 01:37:22,008 --> 01:37:23,182 - Trump's a racist! 2484 01:37:23,216 --> 01:37:24,908 Trump's a racist! 2485 01:37:24,942 --> 01:37:28,359 - A world view adjustment is a major revolution, 2486 01:37:28,394 --> 01:37:30,016 and you may not recover from it. 2487 01:37:30,051 --> 01:37:31,673 It just might do you in. 2488 01:37:31,707 --> 01:37:33,502 Or maybe you're chronically depressed. 2489 01:37:33,537 --> 01:37:35,573 And so when you dig down and you have to 2490 01:37:35,608 --> 01:37:36,920 restructure those axioms, 2491 01:37:36,954 --> 01:37:39,094 not only do you have to encounter 2492 01:37:39,129 --> 01:37:42,891 the unknown as such, which is no joke, 2493 01:37:43,823 --> 01:37:45,756 but you may also have to discover 2494 01:37:45,790 --> 01:37:47,378 your own malevolence. 2495 01:37:47,413 --> 01:37:50,588 Well, it's no wonder people turn away from that. 2496 01:37:50,623 --> 01:37:51,589 It's not surprising at all. 2497 01:37:51,624 --> 01:37:53,143 And everyone is like that. 2498 01:37:54,109 --> 01:37:56,284 And this is why I'm no fan of ideologies, 2499 01:37:56,318 --> 01:37:59,874 generally speaking, because they place a mask of virtue 2500 01:37:59,908 --> 01:38:03,739 over a dark set of motivations. 2501 01:38:03,774 --> 01:38:05,017 And then you can tolerate 2502 01:38:05,051 --> 01:38:06,673 looking at yourself in the mirror. 2503 01:38:07,951 --> 01:38:09,573 Well there's plenty of motivation to falsify, 2504 01:38:09,607 --> 01:38:13,301 but it's a bad idea. 2505 01:38:14,164 --> 01:38:16,131 You live out the falsifications, 2506 01:38:16,166 --> 01:38:19,134 and the world hit you. 2507 01:38:19,963 --> 01:38:21,240 - We begin with breaking news 2508 01:38:21,274 --> 01:38:22,758 from Charlottesville, Virginia, 2509 01:38:22,793 --> 01:38:24,208 where two people have been injured 2510 01:38:24,243 --> 01:38:26,176 in an altercation with protestors 2511 01:38:27,004 --> 01:38:28,247 who were out in force 2512 01:38:28,281 --> 01:38:31,595 over the planned removal of a Confederate statue. 2513 01:38:31,629 --> 01:38:32,976 Watch this. 2514 01:38:34,287 --> 01:38:37,946 - So my opinion of the race-baiting that's going on, 2515 01:38:37,981 --> 01:38:41,743 and my opinion of the portrayal of the social strife 2516 01:38:41,777 --> 01:38:43,987 and the neo-Nazis and et cetera 2517 01:38:44,021 --> 01:38:47,266 is another example of a business model 2518 01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:50,786 by the mainstream cable news networks and media 2519 01:38:50,821 --> 01:38:54,790 to try to create an environment of discontent. 2520 01:38:54,825 --> 01:38:56,275 - What happened over the weekend 2521 01:38:56,309 --> 01:38:58,967 in Charlottesville, Virginia was just disgusting. 2522 01:39:00,141 --> 01:39:01,521 I was watching the news like everyone else. 2523 01:39:04,352 --> 01:39:06,112 And you see Nazi flags and torches 2524 01:39:06,147 --> 01:39:07,527 and white supremacists. 2525 01:39:07,562 --> 01:39:10,668 - Hate no longer hides behind hoods. 2526 01:39:10,703 --> 01:39:12,360 - I was sick to my stomach. 2527 01:39:12,394 --> 01:39:15,121 - And by the way, I have nothing but disdain for Nazis. 2528 01:39:15,156 --> 01:39:18,262 - Is this guy wearing a Hitler shirt? 2529 01:39:18,297 --> 01:39:19,539 Yes he is. 2530 01:39:19,574 --> 01:39:21,162 - I think the whole Charlottesville thing, 2531 01:39:21,196 --> 01:39:22,887 I don't think, you have to have a zero tolerance 2532 01:39:22,922 --> 01:39:24,372 policy on Nazis. 2533 01:39:24,406 --> 01:39:26,477 But I think that they're a very very small 2534 01:39:26,512 --> 01:39:29,101 portion of the population, 2535 01:39:29,135 --> 01:39:32,345 and if this was the 1960s, 70s, or 80s, 2536 01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:34,554 objectively they wouldn't be worthy enough 2537 01:39:34,589 --> 01:39:37,143 of the news standing that they're getting right now. 2538 01:39:37,178 --> 01:39:41,458 I think that the media will gin up controversy, 2539 01:39:41,492 --> 01:39:43,908 take things and blow them out of proportion 2540 01:39:43,943 --> 01:39:45,151 to gin up ratings. 2541 01:39:45,186 --> 01:39:47,360 It glues people, it's addictive. 2542 01:39:50,225 --> 01:39:51,571 - Of course everyone today 2543 01:39:51,606 --> 01:39:53,228 is talking about the latest events 2544 01:39:53,263 --> 01:39:56,852 that just unfolded in Charlottesville, Virginia. 2545 01:39:56,887 --> 01:39:58,820 Today we have a very special guest 2546 01:39:58,854 --> 01:40:00,201 who was there on the ground. 2547 01:40:00,235 --> 01:40:03,307 - Basically there was all of the Unite the Right 2548 01:40:03,342 --> 01:40:06,172 type people in the area that they were sort of 2549 01:40:06,207 --> 01:40:07,691 designated to be in. 2550 01:40:07,725 --> 01:40:10,901 And police mostly had a hands-off approach. 2551 01:40:10,935 --> 01:40:12,937 They had set up barricades 2552 01:40:12,972 --> 01:40:16,320 between that and then the outside protestors 2553 01:40:16,355 --> 01:40:17,252 who were basically supposed to stay 2554 01:40:17,287 --> 01:40:19,358 outside of the park. 2555 01:40:19,392 --> 01:40:21,187 The problem is that of course, 2556 01:40:21,222 --> 01:40:24,397 the ring wingers have to walk through those protestors 2557 01:40:24,432 --> 01:40:26,399 in order to get into the park. 2558 01:40:26,434 --> 01:40:27,883 And so most of the violence occurred 2559 01:40:27,918 --> 01:40:29,230 kind of at that peripheral. 2560 01:40:29,264 --> 01:40:31,577 - As we've seen from other events like in Berkeley, 2561 01:40:31,611 --> 01:40:32,440 where there was police, 2562 01:40:32,474 --> 01:40:34,062 and they left the scene, 2563 01:40:34,097 --> 01:40:37,272 and let these two sides fight each other. 2564 01:40:37,307 --> 01:40:39,102 - Hey, how come you guys are hanging back? 2565 01:40:42,105 --> 01:40:44,176 - That would be a good question for the chief of police. 2566 01:40:44,210 --> 01:40:45,694 - What did you see on the ground, 2567 01:40:45,729 --> 01:40:46,730 and how do you think the police 2568 01:40:46,764 --> 01:40:48,249 conducted themselves today? 2569 01:40:48,283 --> 01:40:50,423 - Mostly, the police stayed uninvolved 2570 01:40:50,458 --> 01:40:52,529 for the first couple of hours. 2571 01:40:52,563 --> 01:40:55,083 Eventually, the barricades that they had 2572 01:40:55,118 --> 01:40:58,224 originally set up were taken down by the antifa. 2573 01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:02,435 - Virginia Governor Terry McCauliffe 2574 01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:04,748 declares a state of emergency. 2575 01:41:06,232 --> 01:41:09,201 Then, that terrible moment. 2576 01:41:12,411 --> 01:41:14,378 When the driver of this gray Dodge 2577 01:41:14,413 --> 01:41:16,449 mows down a group of marchers 2578 01:41:16,484 --> 01:41:18,313 who were protesting the rally. 2579 01:41:18,348 --> 01:41:20,453 19 people were injured. 2580 01:41:20,488 --> 01:41:23,284 32 year old Heather Heyer was killed. 2581 01:41:23,318 --> 01:41:25,424 Heather's mother told us her daughter 2582 01:41:25,458 --> 01:41:28,737 was there protesting white supremacy. 2583 01:41:28,772 --> 01:41:31,809 The driver was caught by our ABC cameras, 2584 01:41:31,844 --> 01:41:34,191 chanting a message of white power. 2585 01:41:39,127 --> 01:41:40,301 - And we're back. 2586 01:41:40,335 --> 01:41:42,855 Mike Cernovich, gorillamindset.com, 2587 01:41:42,889 --> 01:41:44,684 with a dimly lit Periscope, 2588 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:46,445 and I think I need to fix my hair. 2589 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,862 We now have in America neo-Nazi terrorists. 2590 01:41:49,896 --> 01:41:51,312 I wish it weren't otherwise, 2591 01:41:51,346 --> 01:41:54,004 but when you're driving a car into a crowd of people 2592 01:41:54,038 --> 01:41:55,626 after attending a neo-Nazi event, 2593 01:41:55,661 --> 01:41:58,871 then you have to call it on both ways, right? 2594 01:41:58,905 --> 01:42:00,424 - In a press conference this afternoon, 2595 01:42:00,459 --> 01:42:02,702 when asked about the events in Charlottesville, 2596 01:42:02,737 --> 01:42:04,359 Trump had this to say. 2597 01:42:04,394 --> 01:42:06,879 - I think there's blame on both sides. 2598 01:42:08,812 --> 01:42:10,503 - Alright, it's just like D-Day. 2599 01:42:10,538 --> 01:42:15,163 Remember, D-Day, two sides, allies and the Nazis. 2600 01:42:15,198 --> 01:42:18,511 There was a lot of violence on both sides, okay? 2601 01:42:18,546 --> 01:42:20,444 - But how can you talk about 2602 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,860 the terrorism of the neo-Nazis on the right, 2603 01:42:23,896 --> 01:42:25,449 but then look the other way 2604 01:42:25,484 --> 01:42:27,141 when the alt-left is committing terrorism. 2605 01:42:27,175 --> 01:42:30,972 - One is a Nazi white supremacist group. 2606 01:42:31,006 --> 01:42:32,698 The other is a protest group, 2607 01:42:32,732 --> 01:42:35,804 protesting a political and a racist movement. 2608 01:42:35,839 --> 01:42:38,324 Maybe their tactics weren't exactly right. 2609 01:42:38,359 --> 01:42:40,395 - Don Lemon goes, well, you know, 2610 01:42:40,430 --> 01:42:45,020 the alt-left, antifa, maybe they have some bad tactics. 2611 01:42:45,055 --> 01:42:46,815 And they're white-washing it. 2612 01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:48,403 - What about the alt-left 2613 01:42:48,438 --> 01:42:51,337 that came charging at, as you say, the alt-right? 2614 01:42:52,373 --> 01:42:54,927 Do they have any semblance of guilt? 2615 01:42:54,961 --> 01:42:56,515 - First of all, sir, 2616 01:42:56,549 --> 01:42:58,517 the opposite of alt-right isn't the alt-left. 2617 01:42:59,587 --> 01:43:02,003 It's the not-Nazis. 2618 01:43:06,214 --> 01:43:07,353 That's just me. 2619 01:43:07,388 --> 01:43:09,907 - I think you got it. - No I don't know. 2620 01:43:09,942 --> 01:43:11,875 - I think you got it. - Let's be fair, John. 2621 01:43:11,909 --> 01:43:13,808 - I think you got it. - You gotta be fair, John. 2622 01:43:13,842 --> 01:43:15,223 - No that's pretty fair. 2623 01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:21,367 - It's time for the left to actually take a stand. 2624 01:43:21,402 --> 01:43:26,407 99.999% of the right is against the neo-Nazis. 2625 01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:30,549 99.999% of the left is against 2626 01:43:30,583 --> 01:43:32,413 the alt-left terrorism, but, 2627 01:43:33,241 --> 01:43:35,243 but if you're a liberal, 2628 01:43:35,278 --> 01:43:37,211 if you're a liberal, 2629 01:43:37,245 --> 01:43:38,867 it's time to start calling this stuff out. 2630 01:43:38,902 --> 01:43:40,110 Thanks for watching. 2631 01:43:40,144 --> 01:43:40,938 Mike Cernovitch. 2632 01:43:40,973 --> 01:43:42,457 I'll be back soon. 2633 01:43:42,492 --> 01:43:43,803 We'll talk more. 2634 01:43:43,838 --> 01:43:45,426 My life is in danger every day 2635 01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:48,601 because the media has falsely claimed that I'm alt-right, 2636 01:43:48,636 --> 01:43:49,602 when I'm clearly not. 2637 01:43:49,637 --> 01:43:51,466 - Red rover, red rover, 2638 01:43:51,501 --> 01:43:53,261 send Cernovich over. 2639 01:43:53,296 --> 01:43:54,469 - I'm not part of that. 2640 01:43:54,504 --> 01:43:56,091 - You want a red pill. 2641 01:43:56,126 --> 01:43:57,714 How about a leg pill? 2642 01:43:57,748 --> 01:43:59,543 - The alt-right may have started out 2643 01:43:59,578 --> 01:44:03,478 as something different a year ago or two years ago. 2644 01:44:03,513 --> 01:44:05,653 It may have been about just an alternative 2645 01:44:05,687 --> 01:44:07,171 to mainstream republicans, 2646 01:44:07,206 --> 01:44:10,244 but it has clearly morphed into ultimately 2647 01:44:10,278 --> 01:44:14,386 an anti-Jewish, anti-everybody hate filled movement. 2648 01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:17,320 So I've said, hey, you guys have free speech rights. 2649 01:44:17,354 --> 01:44:19,460 I've said the alt-right has free speech rights 2650 01:44:19,494 --> 01:44:21,496 to go give their talks and public rallies. 2651 01:44:21,531 --> 01:44:23,257 But I've said if your movement is based on hate, 2652 01:44:23,291 --> 01:44:25,466 I completely want nothing to do with it. 2653 01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:27,295 And I said if you want to throw Nazi salutes, 2654 01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:28,607 I don't want anything to do with you. 2655 01:44:28,641 --> 01:44:29,504 Don't come to my event. 2656 01:44:29,539 --> 01:44:31,265 Stay far far away from me. 2657 01:44:31,299 --> 01:44:33,439 The media, though, they call me alt-right to this day. 2658 01:44:33,474 --> 01:44:36,580 - For people who vote for Donald Trump 2659 01:44:36,615 --> 01:44:40,032 to get lumped in with white supremacists and extremists, 2660 01:44:40,066 --> 01:44:42,862 it's true in a lot of regards 2661 01:44:42,897 --> 01:44:45,209 'cause you have the KKK, 2662 01:44:45,244 --> 01:44:50,249 who are marching the morning after Trump won the election. 2663 01:44:51,492 --> 01:44:52,355 You have alt-right groups and groups 2664 01:44:52,389 --> 01:44:53,977 that call themselves hate groups 2665 01:44:54,011 --> 01:44:56,290 that are holding up Trump signs at their rallies. 2666 01:44:56,324 --> 01:44:58,602 There were Trump signs in Charlottesville, right? 2667 01:44:58,637 --> 01:45:01,053 Living in America as a black man, 2668 01:45:01,087 --> 01:45:03,331 I'm constantly traumatized. 2669 01:45:03,366 --> 01:45:05,816 I'm traumatized by the statistics that I see, 2670 01:45:05,851 --> 01:45:08,060 I'm traumatized by what I watch on the news 2671 01:45:08,094 --> 01:45:09,717 when black people are choked to death, 2672 01:45:09,751 --> 01:45:12,547 I'm traumatized by what I see on social media. 2673 01:45:12,582 --> 01:45:14,687 Black men being show in front of their families 2674 01:45:14,722 --> 01:45:16,620 by the police and nothing happening. 2675 01:45:16,655 --> 01:45:19,554 Black men with full carry weapons permits. 2676 01:45:19,589 --> 01:45:20,659 I'm traumatized. 2677 01:45:20,693 --> 01:45:22,488 Where's the help for my trauma? 2678 01:45:22,523 --> 01:45:25,249 Who's addressing my needs psychologically? 2679 01:45:25,284 --> 01:45:26,906 These are things we don't look at. 2680 01:45:43,923 --> 01:45:46,098 - I'm a freedom fighter, I'm a revolutionary, 2681 01:45:46,132 --> 01:45:48,687 I'm a Christian, I'm a proud American. 2682 01:45:48,721 --> 01:45:51,828 Although people won't admit to it, 2683 01:45:51,862 --> 01:45:54,520 America is a very racist place. 2684 01:45:55,763 --> 01:45:57,558 It was founded on racial practices. 2685 01:45:57,592 --> 01:46:00,008 And these practices still exist today. 2686 01:46:00,043 --> 01:46:01,700 Maybe to the extent today, 2687 01:46:01,734 --> 01:46:03,667 not to the extent today where before, 2688 01:46:03,702 --> 01:46:06,221 but these racist practices still exist. 2689 01:46:06,256 --> 01:46:07,499 And if you are a Christian, 2690 01:46:07,533 --> 01:46:08,914 if you are American, 2691 01:46:08,948 --> 01:46:12,331 you could look at the facts and say, yes, this is true. 2692 01:46:14,954 --> 01:46:16,197 - Black lives matter. 2693 01:46:16,231 --> 01:46:17,785 Black lives matter. 2694 01:46:17,819 --> 01:46:19,303 - That's the mantra 2695 01:46:19,338 --> 01:46:21,685 and the message of protests around the country. 2696 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,722 - Saying only black lives matter, 2697 01:46:23,756 --> 01:46:24,792 then we do not have to say it. 2698 01:46:24,826 --> 01:46:26,103 - Black lives matter is mean. 2699 01:46:26,138 --> 01:46:28,382 - A black person gets killed by the police 2700 01:46:29,555 --> 01:46:31,937 under questionable circumstances. 2701 01:46:31,971 --> 01:46:34,733 Black people rally. 2702 01:46:34,767 --> 01:46:36,390 The cop goes to court, 2703 01:46:36,424 --> 01:46:38,253 and no matter how questionable, 2704 01:46:38,288 --> 01:46:41,360 it always seems as though the cop walks away. 2705 01:46:42,913 --> 01:46:44,570 Does this always happen? 2706 01:46:44,605 --> 01:46:46,572 No, sometimes the cops get convicted, 2707 01:46:46,607 --> 01:46:49,541 but it just seems to be a reoccurring theme. 2708 01:46:49,575 --> 01:46:51,163 - There's an aspect of Black Lives Matter 2709 01:46:51,197 --> 01:46:54,580 which is well-needed, very well-needed, 2710 01:46:54,615 --> 01:46:57,583 and that is police misconduct, 2711 01:46:57,618 --> 01:46:59,413 militarization of police force. 2712 01:46:59,447 --> 01:47:01,656 - The average person, what do they know about us? 2713 01:47:02,933 --> 01:47:05,246 They know what the media tells them. 2714 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,593 They say BLM is anti-cop. 2715 01:47:07,628 --> 01:47:10,009 - Boy do we have an atrocious case 2716 01:47:10,044 --> 01:47:12,667 of the media twisting things 2717 01:47:12,702 --> 01:47:14,738 in order to lead people in the wrong direction. 2718 01:47:14,773 --> 01:47:17,672 It happens to be a Fox affiliate in Baltimore. 2719 01:47:17,707 --> 01:47:19,743 - At this rally in Washington, DC, 2720 01:47:19,778 --> 01:47:23,022 participants chanted, "We won't stop, we can't stop, 2721 01:47:23,057 --> 01:47:24,817 "so kill a cop." 2722 01:47:24,852 --> 01:47:26,025 - We won't stop! 2723 01:47:26,060 --> 01:47:26,819 - We won't stop! 2724 01:47:26,854 --> 01:47:27,682 - We can't stop! 2725 01:47:27,717 --> 01:47:28,821 - We can't stop! 2726 01:47:28,856 --> 01:47:29,650 - So kill a cop! 2727 01:47:29,684 --> 01:47:30,996 - So kill a cop! 2728 01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:32,929 - And that is not at all what they said. 2729 01:47:32,963 --> 01:47:34,620 So the actual chant was, 2730 01:47:34,655 --> 01:47:37,381 we can't stop, we won't stop, 2731 01:47:37,416 --> 01:47:40,143 'til killer cops are in cell blocks. 2732 01:47:40,177 --> 01:47:40,937 - We won't stop. 2733 01:47:40,971 --> 01:47:41,696 - We won't stop! 2734 01:47:41,731 --> 01:47:42,628 - We can't stop! 2735 01:47:42,663 --> 01:47:43,698 - We can't stop! 2736 01:47:43,733 --> 01:47:44,768 - 'Til killer cops. 2737 01:47:44,803 --> 01:47:45,666 - 'Til killer cops. 2738 01:47:45,700 --> 01:47:46,598 - Are in cell blocks. 2739 01:47:46,632 --> 01:47:47,771 - Are in cell blocks. 2740 01:47:47,806 --> 01:47:49,014 - I'm not anti-cop. 2741 01:47:49,048 --> 01:47:50,360 There are members of my group who are. 2742 01:47:50,394 --> 01:47:52,880 Because I know, 2743 01:47:54,398 --> 01:47:59,024 I know cops who are, as people, decent human beings. 2744 01:47:59,058 --> 01:48:02,648 - Black Lives Matter has been subject to fake news 2745 01:48:02,683 --> 01:48:04,719 in the sense that the media does want 2746 01:48:04,754 --> 01:48:06,687 to sensationalize what is happening. 2747 01:48:06,721 --> 01:48:10,829 So if there's a big major protest, 2748 01:48:10,863 --> 01:48:13,797 then the media isn't gonna cover that. 2749 01:48:13,832 --> 01:48:15,730 They want to cover the 20 people 2750 01:48:15,765 --> 01:48:17,007 lighting cars on fires, 2751 01:48:17,042 --> 01:48:18,664 flipping things over, 2752 01:48:18,699 --> 01:48:20,735 committing violence and other things. 2753 01:48:23,566 --> 01:48:25,844 - There's a difference between a protest and a riot. 2754 01:48:25,878 --> 01:48:27,535 - Burn that motherfucker down. 2755 01:48:31,021 --> 01:48:33,265 - Burn this motherfucker down! 2756 01:48:33,299 --> 01:48:34,197 Burn this bitch down! 2757 01:48:34,231 --> 01:48:35,785 - So in that regard, 2758 01:48:36,958 --> 01:48:39,996 a lot of people associate Black Lives Matter 2759 01:48:40,030 --> 01:48:42,446 being discredited, but on the other hand, 2760 01:48:42,481 --> 01:48:44,759 there was a journalist, a Korean-American journalist, 2761 01:48:44,794 --> 01:48:47,659 Tim Pool, who went to cover the protest, 2762 01:48:47,693 --> 01:48:48,694 which then turned out to be riots, 2763 01:48:48,729 --> 01:48:50,213 in I believe Milwaukee. 2764 01:48:50,247 --> 01:48:51,525 - One of the first things we hear 2765 01:48:51,559 --> 01:48:52,836 is the crowd getting angry and saying, 2766 01:48:52,871 --> 01:48:54,528 "What are these white people doing here? 2767 01:48:54,562 --> 01:48:55,390 "Fuck white people. 2768 01:48:55,425 --> 01:48:56,668 "White people suck." 2769 01:48:56,702 --> 01:48:58,739 And it culminated with an 18 year old white kid 2770 01:48:58,773 --> 01:49:00,395 being shot in the neck yesterday. 2771 01:49:00,430 --> 01:49:01,880 - That's a problem and that's a conversation 2772 01:49:01,914 --> 01:49:03,571 that needs to be had. 2773 01:49:03,606 --> 01:49:05,021 - For those that are perceivable-y white, 2774 01:49:05,055 --> 01:49:08,369 it is just not safe to be here. 2775 01:49:08,403 --> 01:49:10,716 And that's why I'm deciding to leave. 2776 01:49:10,751 --> 01:49:13,374 - They interviewed a girl there 2777 01:49:13,408 --> 01:49:14,858 who was yelling about how they need 2778 01:49:14,893 --> 01:49:16,895 to stop the violence in Milwaukee. 2779 01:49:16,929 --> 01:49:18,897 - Thy kingdom come. 2780 01:49:18,931 --> 01:49:20,277 Thy will be done. 2781 01:49:20,312 --> 01:49:22,038 - With his sister calling for peace. 2782 01:49:22,072 --> 01:49:23,142 - Helped bring the violence here 2783 01:49:23,177 --> 01:49:24,592 and the ignorance here. 2784 01:49:24,627 --> 01:49:25,938 - But the other half of that clip 2785 01:49:25,973 --> 01:49:26,939 was her screaming they need to bring 2786 01:49:26,974 --> 01:49:29,390 the violence to white neighborhoods. 2787 01:49:29,424 --> 01:49:32,427 - Y'all burning down shit we need in our community. 2788 01:49:32,462 --> 01:49:34,498 Take that shit to the suburbs. 2789 01:49:34,533 --> 01:49:35,638 Burn that shit down. 2790 01:49:35,672 --> 01:49:37,501 - That is fake news right there, 2791 01:49:37,536 --> 01:49:39,883 and it's happening every day on your TV screen, 2792 01:49:39,918 --> 01:49:41,747 but it's hard to point out because 2793 01:49:41,782 --> 01:49:43,887 there are bits of truth within it. 2794 01:49:43,922 --> 01:49:44,785 - I ask people, I go, 2795 01:49:44,819 --> 01:49:47,166 can you name a high profile, 2796 01:49:47,201 --> 01:49:49,928 a black person who had been shot by police? 2797 01:49:49,962 --> 01:49:52,344 And people can, they can name a few people, right? 2798 01:49:55,174 --> 01:49:57,901 And then I say, can you think of a white person 2799 01:49:57,936 --> 01:49:59,385 who was shot by police? 2800 01:50:00,386 --> 01:50:01,802 No. 2801 01:50:01,836 --> 01:50:02,768 I go, well did you know that 2802 01:50:02,803 --> 01:50:04,943 twice as many white people 2803 01:50:04,977 --> 01:50:07,014 as black people are shot by police every year. 2804 01:50:07,048 --> 01:50:08,429 And they go, well yeah, 2805 01:50:08,463 --> 01:50:09,637 but white people are a majority of the population. 2806 01:50:09,672 --> 01:50:11,743 It's like, I get the statistics. 2807 01:50:11,777 --> 01:50:13,607 But if twice as many white people 2808 01:50:13,641 --> 01:50:14,815 are shot as black people, 2809 01:50:16,402 --> 01:50:19,267 and you can't name a single white person shot by police, 2810 01:50:19,302 --> 01:50:21,787 what does that say about the media's coverage, right? 2811 01:50:21,822 --> 01:50:23,478 - The first thing you hear when a cop 2812 01:50:23,513 --> 01:50:26,930 kills someone of color is their criminal history, 2813 01:50:26,965 --> 01:50:28,173 if they're an alcoholic, 2814 01:50:28,207 --> 01:50:29,933 they were a woman-beater, 2815 01:50:29,968 --> 01:50:31,866 they were, who knows? 2816 01:50:31,901 --> 01:50:35,352 When a black person is killed, they're villain-ized. 2817 01:50:35,387 --> 01:50:38,942 And when a white person is killed, 2818 01:50:38,977 --> 01:50:40,841 they are victimized. 2819 01:50:40,875 --> 01:50:42,463 Villain-ized, victimized. 2820 01:50:42,497 --> 01:50:43,809 And that's no one else but the media. 2821 01:51:08,869 --> 01:51:10,008 - I've never heard about that. 2822 01:51:10,042 --> 01:51:12,666 - Shit is crazy. 2823 01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:13,874 This is crazy. 2824 01:51:15,703 --> 01:51:18,982 I don't understand why I haven't heard of this. 2825 01:51:19,017 --> 01:51:20,743 Like, that's unbelievable. 2826 01:51:20,777 --> 01:51:22,814 This is what's funny about the media. 2827 01:51:22,848 --> 01:51:25,575 All the victims in Nashville were white, 2828 01:51:26,714 --> 01:51:29,441 but it is not clear whether Samson 2829 01:51:29,475 --> 01:51:32,099 specifically targeted them based on their race. 2830 01:51:32,133 --> 01:51:34,895 That's bullshit, right? 2831 01:51:34,929 --> 01:51:35,930 It's bullshit. 2832 01:51:35,965 --> 01:51:38,933 And this is me talking about a black person 2833 01:51:38,968 --> 01:51:42,005 who killed white people at church. 2834 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,249 I don't understand why I never heard that story. 2835 01:51:44,283 --> 01:51:46,354 And what's more amazing to me is 2836 01:51:46,389 --> 01:51:48,909 I have over three, I don't know, 2837 01:51:48,943 --> 01:51:50,773 three or 4000 friends on Facebook. 2838 01:51:50,807 --> 01:51:53,603 I've never seen that story published. 2839 01:51:54,742 --> 01:51:56,226 It's interesting to me. 2840 01:51:56,261 --> 01:51:57,780 - Now in my view, 2841 01:51:57,814 --> 01:51:59,402 the media doesn't want to give attention 2842 01:51:59,436 --> 01:52:00,886 to white people who are shot, 2843 01:52:00,921 --> 01:52:02,854 because then white people might say, oh, 2844 01:52:02,888 --> 01:52:04,200 it could happen to me too. 2845 01:52:04,234 --> 01:52:06,305 Maybe I ought to talk to these Black Lives Matter people. 2846 01:52:06,340 --> 01:52:08,583 Maybe we can find common cause. 2847 01:52:08,618 --> 01:52:10,033 The media does not care about black lives. 2848 01:52:10,068 --> 01:52:11,483 They don't care about white lives. 2849 01:52:11,517 --> 01:52:13,243 They care about the show. 2850 01:52:13,278 --> 01:52:15,314 And a Black Lives Matter leader, 2851 01:52:15,349 --> 01:52:17,903 who was reasonable and nuanced, 2852 01:52:17,938 --> 01:52:21,286 and wanted to talk both about rights and responsibilities, 2853 01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,978 would resonate with the people. 2854 01:52:24,013 --> 01:52:26,636 And that would be very frustrating for the media. 2855 01:52:26,670 --> 01:52:28,224 They don't want people to resonate. 2856 01:52:30,157 --> 01:52:32,228 - The way this rally is different, 2857 01:52:32,262 --> 01:52:35,127 this is one where it's family-oriented. 2858 01:52:35,162 --> 01:52:37,129 The message is positive. 2859 01:52:37,164 --> 01:52:38,475 We're here to relax. 2860 01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:39,994 We're here to have a good time. 2861 01:52:40,029 --> 01:52:44,930 - Washington DC, we're standing to the right of the stage 2862 01:52:45,793 --> 01:52:47,519 at the mother of all rallies. 2863 01:52:47,553 --> 01:52:50,280 And we had just stepped up, 2864 01:52:50,315 --> 01:52:53,283 and people just started booing us, heckling us. 2865 01:52:53,318 --> 01:52:56,079 We stood there defiantly with our fists in the air. 2866 01:52:56,114 --> 01:52:57,978 Chanting, "Black lives matter." 2867 01:52:58,012 --> 01:53:01,015 So they're chanting back, "All lives matter." 2868 01:53:01,050 --> 01:53:02,603 They're making comments. 2869 01:53:02,637 --> 01:53:05,088 And you know, we saw a few people who were 2870 01:53:05,123 --> 01:53:08,160 in Charlottesville, and who we had butted heads with 2871 01:53:08,195 --> 01:53:10,335 a few weeks prior. 2872 01:53:10,369 --> 01:53:13,441 And out of nowhere, one of the guys said-- 2873 01:53:13,476 --> 01:53:14,857 - So what we are gonna do 2874 01:53:14,891 --> 01:53:17,100 is something you're not used to, 2875 01:53:17,135 --> 01:53:19,620 and we're gonna give you two minutes of our platform 2876 01:53:19,654 --> 01:53:21,035 to put your message out. 2877 01:53:21,070 --> 01:53:23,037 - When I got on the stage, 2878 01:53:24,176 --> 01:53:26,523 my mind state changed. 2879 01:53:26,558 --> 01:53:29,147 It wasn't fear, it was God. 2880 01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:34,152 And something said tell them who you are. 2881 01:53:35,222 --> 01:53:37,534 I am an American. 2882 01:53:41,090 --> 01:53:44,507 Secondly, I am a Christian. 2883 01:53:46,785 --> 01:53:50,202 The reason why we fight is to draw attention to issues 2884 01:53:50,237 --> 01:53:51,514 and to fix it. 2885 01:53:51,548 --> 01:53:54,655 We are not anti-cop. 2886 01:53:54,689 --> 01:53:58,417 We are anti-bad cop. 2887 01:54:00,178 --> 01:54:01,904 We don't want handouts. 2888 01:54:01,938 --> 01:54:04,354 We don't want anything that's yours. 2889 01:54:04,389 --> 01:54:08,427 We want our God-given right to freedom, 2890 01:54:08,462 --> 01:54:11,914 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 2891 01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,885 - USA, USA, USA, USA. 2892 01:54:20,474 --> 01:54:24,616 - I think we really made some substantial steps 2893 01:54:24,650 --> 01:54:27,170 without either side yielding anything. 2894 01:54:27,205 --> 01:54:29,241 Here I went from being their enemy 2895 01:54:29,276 --> 01:54:31,450 to someone they want to take pictures with their children. 2896 01:54:31,485 --> 01:54:33,521 That's the power of communication. 2897 01:54:33,556 --> 01:54:37,077 Why doesn't the media tell us this story? 2898 01:54:37,111 --> 01:54:38,078 Why? 2899 01:54:38,112 --> 01:54:42,220 Because people like you and I will sit down, 2900 01:54:42,254 --> 01:54:43,877 and say, let's figure this out. 2901 01:54:43,911 --> 01:54:46,638 And guess what, it disrupts the establishment. 2902 01:54:46,672 --> 01:54:48,226 - No no no, the media's never gonna 2903 01:54:48,260 --> 01:54:49,883 give that guy a platform. 2904 01:54:49,917 --> 01:54:52,609 They want to give a platform to people 2905 01:54:52,644 --> 01:54:54,577 that look monstrous, 2906 01:54:54,611 --> 01:54:56,613 because then you keep everybody divided. 2907 01:54:56,648 --> 01:54:58,029 You keep everybody paranoid. 2908 01:54:58,063 --> 01:54:59,444 You keep everybody hysterical. 2909 01:55:00,963 --> 01:55:04,483 - That is the problem right now with America is the bubble. 2910 01:55:04,518 --> 01:55:06,382 You click away and you unfollow. 2911 01:55:06,416 --> 01:55:07,935 You separate yourself from people 2912 01:55:07,970 --> 01:55:09,281 with contradicting views, 2913 01:55:09,316 --> 01:55:12,112 and then you end up with this sort of snowball 2914 01:55:12,146 --> 01:55:13,803 of your own narrative. 2915 01:55:13,837 --> 01:55:16,150 - Your narrative should be something like, 2916 01:55:16,185 --> 01:55:18,842 I'm constantly trying to go beyond the truth 2917 01:55:18,877 --> 01:55:20,189 that I already hold. 2918 01:55:21,500 --> 01:55:24,158 Because the truth that you already hold is not enough. 2919 01:55:24,193 --> 01:55:26,574 You need to know more than you know. 2920 01:55:26,609 --> 01:55:29,301 - If you think about what the news is, 2921 01:55:29,336 --> 01:55:32,960 what you see in a newspaper or on TV, 2922 01:55:32,995 --> 01:55:35,100 it's a small fraction of reality, right? 2923 01:55:35,135 --> 01:55:37,792 There's all the things that have happened. 2924 01:55:37,827 --> 01:55:40,416 There's all the things that they know about. 2925 01:55:40,450 --> 01:55:43,591 There's all the things that they decided to write about. 2926 01:55:43,626 --> 01:55:46,353 There's the things that they decided to write about 2927 01:55:46,387 --> 01:55:47,975 that you saw. 2928 01:55:48,010 --> 01:55:49,321 And it goes down and down, 2929 01:55:49,356 --> 01:55:51,151 until you're at that individual article. 2930 01:55:51,185 --> 01:55:54,292 And so you think that when you're reading the news, 2931 01:55:54,326 --> 01:55:56,087 that you're being informed. 2932 01:55:56,121 --> 01:55:57,364 That you're educating yourself. 2933 01:55:57,398 --> 01:55:59,331 That you're seeing how the world is. 2934 01:55:59,366 --> 01:56:01,506 But you're seeing such a tiny fraction of the world, 2935 01:56:01,540 --> 01:56:04,164 and so you could argue that in a way, 2936 01:56:04,198 --> 01:56:06,890 the media is designed not to inform you, 2937 01:56:06,925 --> 01:56:09,169 but to keep you uninformed. 2938 01:56:09,203 --> 01:56:12,275 And that's really scary that the bubble 2939 01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:14,001 that we all live in, 2940 01:56:14,036 --> 01:56:17,315 that has no real higher obligation anymore 2941 01:56:17,349 --> 01:56:20,732 to this sort of philosophical idea of truth 2942 01:56:20,766 --> 01:56:22,182 is a scary thing. 2943 01:56:23,769 --> 01:56:25,702 We can't even agree on reality anymore. 2944 01:56:37,956 --> 01:56:40,338 - It's always a question to some degree. 2945 01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:43,789 Which of our partial realities is true, 2946 01:56:45,032 --> 01:56:46,206 and which of them is false? 2947 01:56:47,931 --> 01:56:51,763 There's a world that exists beyond our comprehension of it, 2948 01:56:51,797 --> 01:56:53,765 and so you have to lay a structure on it 2949 01:56:53,799 --> 01:56:55,042 in order to simplify it. 2950 01:56:56,285 --> 01:56:58,735 The role of a journalist is to lay out 2951 01:56:58,770 --> 01:57:02,049 an unbiased simplification of the situation, 2952 01:57:02,912 --> 01:57:05,397 and to let the viewers, readers, 2953 01:57:05,432 --> 01:57:06,640 make up their own minds. 2954 01:57:08,228 --> 01:57:11,921 But, if you introduce an act of deception into the world, 2955 01:57:11,955 --> 01:57:15,062 it stays and it manifests itself. 2956 01:57:15,097 --> 01:57:19,032 When you do that, you corrupt the structure of the world, 2957 01:57:19,066 --> 01:57:20,688 and you corrupt your own soul. 2958 01:57:20,723 --> 01:57:22,035 And God help you. 2959 01:57:23,139 --> 01:57:24,761 It's not good. 2960 01:57:24,796 --> 01:57:26,384 It's seriously not good. 2961 01:57:26,418 --> 01:57:28,075 And we know this. 2962 01:57:28,110 --> 01:57:30,802 If you read who I would regard 2963 01:57:30,836 --> 01:57:33,080 as the most profound analysts 2964 01:57:33,115 --> 01:57:36,118 of the totalitarian societies of the 20th Century, 2965 01:57:36,152 --> 01:57:38,430 they come to the same conclusion, 2966 01:57:38,465 --> 01:57:41,709 which is that the totalitarian states 2967 01:57:41,744 --> 01:57:43,228 would not have been possible without 2968 01:57:43,263 --> 01:57:45,058 the moral corruption of the individuals 2969 01:57:45,092 --> 01:57:46,300 within that society. 2970 01:57:47,474 --> 01:57:48,440 And if you think that through, 2971 01:57:48,475 --> 01:57:51,167 then it should make you quake in your boots. 2972 01:57:52,927 --> 01:57:55,413 We have to restructure our value systems, 2973 01:57:55,447 --> 01:57:57,932 and so that means going back into the past. 2974 01:57:57,967 --> 01:58:00,142 - If ye continue in my word, 2975 01:58:00,176 --> 01:58:03,973 then are ye my disciples indeed. 2976 01:58:04,007 --> 01:58:05,975 And ye shall know the truth, 2977 01:58:06,009 --> 01:58:08,978 and the truth shall make you free. 2978 01:58:10,152 --> 01:58:11,256 Amen. 2979 01:58:11,291 --> 01:58:13,016 - There is no search for truth. 2980 01:58:14,156 --> 01:58:15,674 The government writes the text books, 2981 01:58:15,709 --> 01:58:18,125 and the children are taught to accept communism 2982 01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,472 and their fate without question. 2983 01:58:20,507 --> 01:58:25,512 - We're at a point where Judaeo-Christian ethics can't die, 2984 01:58:27,203 --> 01:58:28,515 because if it does, 2985 01:58:29,378 --> 01:58:31,518 then our civilization is done. 2986 01:58:33,071 --> 01:58:37,317 Because it's foundation blocks are of that ethic. 2987 01:58:38,835 --> 01:58:40,630 In the story of Genesis, right at the beginning, 2988 01:58:40,665 --> 01:58:44,600 is the idea that the essential creative element 2989 01:58:44,634 --> 01:58:48,466 of divinity is the logos, the word, the truth. 2990 01:58:50,053 --> 01:58:51,883 And that consciousness calls a world 2991 01:58:51,917 --> 01:58:54,057 into being through language. 2992 01:58:54,092 --> 01:58:58,441 That's the image of God in man, as far as I can tell. 2993 01:58:58,476 --> 01:59:01,341 And so the words you choose 2994 01:59:02,549 --> 01:59:05,379 determine the structure of the world 2995 01:59:05,414 --> 01:59:06,587 that you bring into being. 2996 01:59:08,865 --> 01:59:11,040 So we better get our acts together. 2997 01:59:11,074 --> 01:59:12,352 - We need truth. 2998 01:59:13,318 --> 01:59:14,871 We need truth in media. 2999 01:59:14,906 --> 01:59:19,807 We need to open up our eyes. 3000 01:59:19,842 --> 01:59:21,878 - The fundamental question people are gonna have, 3001 01:59:21,913 --> 01:59:23,673 which I have, is how do you know what's true 3002 01:59:23,708 --> 01:59:25,192 or what's not true? 3003 01:59:25,227 --> 01:59:29,196 - I wonder sometimes if there is a truth 3004 01:59:29,231 --> 01:59:31,060 that is accessible to us. 3005 01:59:35,237 --> 01:59:37,618 Like I don't know if we can ever know what's truth. 3006 01:59:44,522 --> 01:59:46,213 - Plato's allegory of the cave 3007 01:59:46,248 --> 01:59:48,491 is one of philosophy's oldest stories, 3008 01:59:48,526 --> 01:59:49,527 and one of its best. 3009 01:59:50,735 --> 01:59:52,737 In the story, there are people who have lived 3010 01:59:52,771 --> 01:59:56,258 their whole lives chained in a cave. 3011 01:59:56,292 --> 01:59:58,950 And they're forced to look at the wall. 3012 01:59:58,984 --> 02:00:01,504 Now behind them is a fire. 3013 02:00:01,539 --> 02:00:03,920 And in front of the fire are various shapes. 3014 02:00:03,955 --> 02:00:06,544 People, animals, trees. 3015 02:00:06,578 --> 02:00:09,512 And they see against the flickering 3016 02:00:09,547 --> 02:00:11,411 firelight of the cave wall these shapes, 3017 02:00:11,445 --> 02:00:14,448 and they think that they're looking at reality. 3018 02:00:15,898 --> 02:00:19,453 But one day, one of the men breaks his chains, 3019 02:00:20,661 --> 02:00:22,249 and he turns his head for the first time in his life, 3020 02:00:22,284 --> 02:00:24,907 and he looks, and he sees the shapes, 3021 02:00:24,941 --> 02:00:28,600 and he sees the fire itself. 3022 02:00:28,635 --> 02:00:32,604 And it's startling, and he thinks that is real. 3023 02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:33,640 Now I have seen what is real. 3024 02:00:33,674 --> 02:00:37,575 Before, I only saw the flickering shadows. 3025 02:00:37,609 --> 02:00:38,921 Now I see what is real. 3026 02:00:40,129 --> 02:00:42,787 But then, he sees on the far side of the fire, 3027 02:00:44,409 --> 02:00:45,652 a passageway leading out. 3028 02:00:46,687 --> 02:00:50,450 Curious, he decides to go up the stairs. 3029 02:00:50,484 --> 02:00:52,417 And he climbs the stairs one by one, 3030 02:00:52,452 --> 02:00:54,488 and he begins to see the light. 3031 02:00:56,318 --> 02:00:58,285 Not of the flickering shadows, 3032 02:00:58,320 --> 02:00:59,493 not of the fire, not of the shapes, 3033 02:00:59,528 --> 02:01:03,256 but of the world itself. 3034 02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:06,949 And he sees the world for what it is. 3035 02:01:06,983 --> 02:01:09,296 He sees the actual trees. 3036 02:01:09,331 --> 02:01:11,988 Not the shadows of trees, not the models of trees, 3037 02:01:12,023 --> 02:01:12,989 the actual trees. 3038 02:01:13,024 --> 02:01:14,646 He sees the sky, he sees the sun. 3039 02:01:15,682 --> 02:01:17,339 It all becomes blindingly clear to him, 3040 02:01:17,373 --> 02:01:19,272 and he realizes that he has spent his life 3041 02:01:19,306 --> 02:01:22,309 imprisoned into a false reality. 3042 02:01:23,517 --> 02:01:27,487 We are told by the media what the world is. 3043 02:01:27,521 --> 02:01:29,489 We are told by the media what is right, 3044 02:01:29,523 --> 02:01:30,766 what is wrong, what to believe, 3045 02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:32,630 who to love, who to hate. 3046 02:01:32,664 --> 02:01:36,392 These are just shadows on the wall of the cave. 3047 02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:39,430 And then the thought comes to his mind 3048 02:01:39,464 --> 02:01:41,949 as he regards this beauty and he says, 3049 02:01:41,984 --> 02:01:44,297 "I must share this!" 3050 02:01:46,368 --> 02:01:48,439 With the people below, with my friends, 3051 02:01:48,473 --> 02:01:52,512 my companions, my compatriots chained in the cave. 3052 02:01:52,546 --> 02:01:54,376 So he takes a last look to drink in the glory 3053 02:01:54,410 --> 02:01:56,343 of everything that he sees. 3054 02:01:56,378 --> 02:02:01,279 And then with excitement, with joy, with anticipation, 3055 02:02:02,418 --> 02:02:04,696 he turns back down into the cave, 3056 02:02:05,870 --> 02:02:10,081 and he starts to tell everyone chained to the wall, 3057 02:02:10,115 --> 02:02:13,567 this is not real, this is not real, these are illusions. 3058 02:02:13,602 --> 02:02:16,570 And he reaches down and he tries to break their chains. 3059 02:02:17,502 --> 02:02:19,573 And they do not thank him. 3060 02:02:21,403 --> 02:02:23,474 They do not praise him, they do not admire his wisdom 3061 02:02:23,508 --> 02:02:24,509 and his courage. 3062 02:02:24,544 --> 02:02:25,821 They fight him. 3063 02:02:25,855 --> 02:02:28,271 And they call him mad, they call him deranged, 3064 02:02:28,306 --> 02:02:33,311 delusional, disruptive, seditious, dangerous. 3065 02:02:37,557 --> 02:02:40,387 And he faces the choice, 3066 02:02:40,422 --> 02:02:43,114 the choice that we all face when we learn the truth. 3067 02:02:45,047 --> 02:02:47,636 Do we stay where we are hated, 3068 02:02:49,085 --> 02:02:50,708 down in the dungeons, 3069 02:02:50,742 --> 02:02:53,538 among the enslaved, mentally. 3070 02:02:53,573 --> 02:02:57,128 Do we stay among those fixated on their screens, 3071 02:02:57,162 --> 02:02:58,716 who will not tear their eyes away 3072 02:02:58,750 --> 02:03:02,064 from a manufactured reality to look at the world itself. 3073 02:03:03,617 --> 02:03:05,688 Or do we go and climb those stairs again 3074 02:03:05,723 --> 02:03:09,105 to imbibe all the glory and beauty of the natural world, 3075 02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:12,764 leaving behind those who fight us 3076 02:03:12,799 --> 02:03:14,076 for bringing them the truth. 3077 02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:16,596 I say stand and fight. 3078 02:03:17,804 --> 02:03:19,046 What is the glory of the world 3079 02:03:19,081 --> 02:03:21,221 if we must drink it in solitude? 3080 02:03:21,255 --> 02:03:23,223 What is the beauty of the planet 3081 02:03:23,257 --> 02:03:25,605 if we must view it alone? 3082 02:03:27,158 --> 02:03:29,091 We have an obligation, if we have seen the truth, 3083 02:03:29,125 --> 02:03:32,335 to wrestle the lies from the minds 3084 02:03:32,370 --> 02:03:33,854 of those stuck in the cave. 3085 02:03:36,339 --> 02:03:39,722 The cave is the manufactured reality 3086 02:03:39,757 --> 02:03:41,483 of those who would control us 3087 02:03:41,517 --> 02:03:42,932 by controlling what we think. 3088 02:03:44,486 --> 02:03:48,006 But fundamentally, you can't control what someone thinks. 3089 02:03:48,041 --> 02:03:52,494 Because once they think, they are beyond your control. 3090 02:04:05,023 --> 02:04:08,475 ♪ Look at the hell that's been brewing ♪ 3091 02:04:08,510 --> 02:04:12,272 ♪ So you cry and you cheat and you steal ♪ 3092 02:04:12,306 --> 02:04:15,620 ♪ Preaching from one of your limos ♪ 3093 02:04:15,655 --> 02:04:19,486 ♪ They struggle just paying their bills ♪ 3094 02:04:19,521 --> 02:04:22,869 ♪ I know you're high and you're mighty ♪ 3095 02:04:22,903 --> 02:04:26,838 ♪ Is it best if we all whittle down ♪ 3096 02:04:26,873 --> 02:04:30,808 ♪ For fortune and power and devious deeds ♪ 3097 02:04:30,842 --> 02:04:34,467 ♪ Winners are chosen, you still won't concede ♪ 3098 02:04:34,501 --> 02:04:39,472 ♪ Final fight for what you believe ♪ 3099 02:04:40,196 --> 02:04:42,785 ♪ If it's anything 3100 02:04:42,820 --> 02:04:47,825 ♪ Well there's proof in the battlefields ♪ 3101 02:04:49,758 --> 02:04:52,795 ♪ You suck profits that all that I kill ♪ 3102 02:04:52,830 --> 02:04:57,835 ♪ But we've got our faith back 3103 02:04:59,112 --> 02:05:02,805 ♪ And we're tired of messing around ♪ 3104 02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:06,533 ♪ We're tired of losing our feet on the ground ♪ 3105 02:05:06,568 --> 02:05:10,364 ♪ So tired with taking you down ♪ 3106 02:05:10,399 --> 02:05:13,851 ♪ And strip you away from the media crown ♪ 3107 02:05:13,885 --> 02:05:17,337 ♪ I know you'll keep selling us fear ♪ 3108 02:05:17,371 --> 02:05:22,376 ♪ Don't you forget that your ending is near ♪ 3109 02:05:23,550 --> 02:05:28,244 ♪ And you know no matter what you say ♪ 3110 02:05:29,107 --> 02:05:32,352 ♪ Your hoax is on display 3111 02:05:32,386 --> 02:05:35,907 ♪ We're lighting your darkest cave ♪ 3112 02:05:35,942 --> 02:05:39,601 ♪ And the fire won't go away 3113 02:05:39,635 --> 02:05:43,018 ♪ If what's right was on your mind ♪ 3114 02:05:43,052 --> 02:05:46,918 ♪ Why is the truth so hard to find ♪ 3115 02:05:46,953 --> 02:05:50,612 ♪ Might be poor but we're not blind ♪ 3116 02:05:50,646 --> 02:05:54,823 ♪ What you've given is stuck inside ♪ 3117 02:06:03,901 --> 02:06:07,594 ♪ Look at your tiny retraction 3118 02:06:07,629 --> 02:06:11,115 ♪ You've already gotten the views ♪ 3119 02:06:11,149 --> 02:06:14,636 ♪ Those methods that keep us divided ♪ 3120 02:06:14,670 --> 02:06:18,812 ♪ How else would you spread your fake news ♪ 3121 02:06:18,847 --> 02:06:21,988 ♪ Chilling your way through a story ♪ 3122 02:06:22,022 --> 02:06:25,923 ♪ While calling up scoops on the air ♪ 3123 02:06:25,957 --> 02:06:29,754 ♪ We pray for our youth, but why would you care ♪ 3124 02:06:29,789 --> 02:06:33,793 ♪ Searching for honor in all our despair ♪ 3125 02:06:33,827 --> 02:06:38,832 ♪ Rather be famous, pretend like you're there ♪ 3126 02:06:39,557 --> 02:06:41,524 ♪ And it's never fair 3127 02:06:41,559 --> 02:06:46,564 ♪ So we've leveled the playing fields ♪ 3128 02:06:48,877 --> 02:06:51,811 ♪ You'll keep pushing 'til someone gets killed ♪ 3129 02:06:51,845 --> 02:06:56,850 ♪ But we've got our strength back ♪ 3130 02:06:58,231 --> 02:07:01,924 ♪ We're tired of messing around ♪ 3131 02:07:01,959 --> 02:07:05,687 ♪ We're tired of losing our men to the ground ♪ 3132 02:07:05,721 --> 02:07:09,380 ♪ We're tired of screaming out loud ♪ 3133 02:07:09,414 --> 02:07:13,315 ♪ We're tired of living our lives in the cloud ♪ 3134 02:07:13,349 --> 02:07:16,767 ♪ Go on and sell us your fears 3135 02:07:16,801 --> 02:07:21,806 ♪ But look how we've basked in our enemy's tears ♪ 3136 02:07:23,014 --> 02:07:27,225 ♪ As we're told to shut up and let you play ♪ 3137 02:07:28,433 --> 02:07:31,022 ♪ With our hearts in a twisted game ♪ 3138 02:07:31,057 --> 02:07:34,819 ♪ While your lies all stay the same ♪ 3139 02:07:34,854 --> 02:07:38,651 ♪ And we call you by your name 3140 02:07:38,685 --> 02:07:42,033 ♪ As your hoax is on the run 3141 02:07:42,068 --> 02:07:45,899 ♪ And you're like the sinking sun ♪ 3142 02:07:45,934 --> 02:07:49,972 ♪ Don't be sore, just take the plunge ♪ 3143 02:07:50,007 --> 02:07:53,700 ♪ And let thy will be done 3144 02:07:53,735 --> 02:07:57,428 ♪ Sing let thy will be done 3145 02:07:57,462 --> 02:08:00,880 ♪ Before the war is won 3146 02:08:00,914 --> 02:08:04,366 ♪ And when the war is won 3147 02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:08,197 ♪ Only then the end will come 241292

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