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$600 for a freaking T-shirt?
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Did you say $600?
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Wow.
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This is SoHo, Chloe.
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Still.
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Ladies, let me know if there's
anything I can help you with.
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Thank you.
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We should probably head back to Brooklyn soon.
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Oh, my God, a scarf is $400?
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Should I get it?
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What? No.
Your mom will kill you.
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Hey.
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I didn't say anything about buying it.
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Oh, come on.
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Warmth is a fundamental human right.
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And I need a scarf.
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Relax. You're gonna
attract attention.
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Hey.
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You should get those earrings.
They're your favorite color.
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I don't think so.
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Do you know how cute you'd look with them?
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Sorry, ladies.
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I'm gonna need to see inside those purses.
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Good afternoon.
My name is Elena Smith.
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I got a phone call that my 15-year-old daughter
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was arrested for shoplifting?
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Wait, there must be some mistake.
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I'm supposed to meet my daughter in here.
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There's been no mistake, Ms. Smith.
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It's you we want to talk to.
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I'm Agent Franks with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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This is Agent Arnold.
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Would you please take a seat?
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Shoplifting?
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Is that something the FBI
gets involved with these days?
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Uh, just for the record,
you're Chloe Smith's mom?Yes.
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Is she okay? W-What did she do?
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Chloe's real name isn't Chloe at all, is it?
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And her last name isn't Smith.
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For that matter, I'm guessing neither is yours.
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Your daughter, who isn't your daughter,
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her real name is Sarah Cooper, isn't it?
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We ran her prints.
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She's originally from Clearwater, Florida,
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and we suspect maybe you are, too.
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Your real name's Angela Brown, isn't it?
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Ms. Brown,
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we've been looking for you
and that little girl
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for an awfully long time.
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Go away.
No.
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Nope. I need to speak with you.
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Have some mercy.
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You know I have a two-week-old at home.
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I know that.
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She's adorable, but confused.
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Doesn't know night from day.
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Ugh, come on.
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I'm working
on 22 minutes' sleep here.
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I beg you.
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Sorry, Bull.
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You know, I just, uh,
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got off the phone
with my financial guy,
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trying to start
a college fund
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for baby Bull,
but I got to have her full name.
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They won't let me
open up an account
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without a last name
and a first name.
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So what's it gonna be?
Asa or Ingrid?
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Remember?
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You told me you wanted
to name her Ingrid,
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and Izzy wanted to name her Asa.
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So where'd you
guys end up?
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We met in the middle.
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What? Inga?
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Astrid.
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Ah.
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Astrid.
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I like it.
Never heard it before,
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but I like it.
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Same here.
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See what you started?
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You two boys interested
in running up
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to the Metropolitan Correctional
Center late this afternoon,
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and talking to a woman accused
of kidnapping her niece
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12 years ago and bringing
her up as her daughter?
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12 years ago, my younger sister
Marie died in a car accident.
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She had just dropped her
three-year-old daughter
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off at day care.
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Sarah. Sarah Cooper.
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Yes.
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That was the name
she was born with.
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Sarah Cooper.
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And what about her father?
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What was going on with Sarah's
father after your sister died?
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My brother-in-law had issues
with impulse control.
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Struggled with his drinking, with drugs.
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He used to beat my sister.
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He used to hurt Chloe.
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Sarah.
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And you witnessed this?
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I saw the bruises.
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But your sister confided in you?
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She didn't have
to confide in me.
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S-She didn't have to say it.
She was my sister.
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Uh, these bruises, did you ask her about them?
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I tried.
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She'd tell me she walked into a door.
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Or when her hand had what looked
to me like cigarette burns,
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she'd tell me she did it
to herself on the stove.
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Tell me about Sarah.
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After Marie died,
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I noticed she started having bruises.
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And did you ask your brother-in-law?
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The girl's father?
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He'd tell me Sarah fell down.
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"Sarah fell off her big wheel."
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There was always a story.
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So, I contacted Florida's Department
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of Children and Families.
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But by the time they came out to investigate,
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the bruises were almost gone.
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I think I reported him
five, six times.
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And then, one day,
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I went over there
to visit my niece,
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and they told me she was in
the hospital with a broken arm.
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Jim said she fell down the stairs.
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But when I went to the hospital
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and asked Sarah what had
happened, she wouldn't tell me.
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She just looked sad.
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She wouldn't say anything.
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So, the next morning,
I went back to the hospital.
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And I told her
we were going on a trip.
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That was 12 years ago.
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Let's talk about the trial.
It's not gonna be easy.
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There's no denying what you did.
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You took a child
who wasn't yours.
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A child who still had a parent.
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And there's no jury
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that's gonna have an easy time
looking past that,
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which is why Sarah-- Chloe--
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is the key to your defense.
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The key?
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How? She was only three
when all this happened.
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She doesn't remember anything.
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Of course.
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But surely she has an opinion
on you as a mother.
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How did she react when you
told her you'd been arrested?
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I told her I'd been called away
on a business trip.
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I called her friend's parents
and asked if she could stay
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with them for a day or two.
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Ms. Smith, Ms. Brown,
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you need to explain
to your niece
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what's really going on here.
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That is a conversation
that has to be had.
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BENNY:
Dr. Bull is right.
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She is the most important
witness we have.
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Now, we're happy
to bring Chloe here, tomorrow.
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Give you two a chance to talk.
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Here?
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So I can tell her
her whole life's been a fiction?
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She thinks
her father is dead,
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that he's a war hero,
he lost his life in Afghanistan.
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Be that as it may,
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if that girl doesn't tell
the jury what a wonderful mother
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you've been,
you will be found guilty.
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And the authorities
will almost certainly return her
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to the man you're convinced hurt her.
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Tell me you'll call her tonight.
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Tell me you'll explain
you need to see her.
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Okay.
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I'll call her.
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I'll tell her
about the two of you.
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That you'll be
bringing her to me.
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But I won't tell her where.
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And I won't tell her why.
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I-I just can't.
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Here she comes.
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You all right?
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It's a lot.
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It is.
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I hate to be the naysayer...
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No, you don't.I-I don't know
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how we're supposed
to prove abuse
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that supposedly happened
over 12 years ago
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in a place that's over
a thousand miles away.
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I don't know.
I mean, the kid did
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break her arm.
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Yeah, but it was
a spiral fracture,
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which is actually pretty common.
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It can happen when you yank
a toddler's arm
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or when you're just
horsing around,
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which is what the dad
told the doctors.
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Speaking of the father...
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Tell us what you know.
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His name is Jim Cooper.
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Went through kind of a dark
period after his wife passed
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and his daughter disappeared.
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Couldn't hold down a job,
got himself into a lot of debt.
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Lost his house. Some minor
arrests for drunkenness.
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Then about eight years ago,
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he started to pull
his life back together.
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Bought a water-softening franchise,
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remarried four years ago, has
a two-and-a-half-year-old son,
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has six employees.
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I've dated guys whose bios
read worse than this.
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Here's the thing. Bull keeps
saying the literature
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is pretty clear about the fact
that abuse tends to be cyclical.
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I mean, even though
this Jim Cooper remarried...
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You think he's abusing
his new wife and kid?
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Well, I certainly hope not,
but he probably had
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other relationships
before he met his current wife.
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And if we can establish
a pattern of abuse,
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it would certainly bolster
Elena's credibility.
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Looks like I'm on a plane
to sunny Florida.
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BENNY: Do you know what
the problem with this case is?
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Our client did exactly what
she's being charged with.
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I'm starting to think our only
choice might be to embrace that.
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Why would we do that?
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To gain credibility
with the judge and the jury.
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Make a play for a lenient sentence.
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Our play is to get her acquitted.
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If we have to ask
for a lenient sentence,
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it means we've lost, and our
client didn't hire us to lose.
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Yeah, but, Bull, there is
no defense for this crime.
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It's not like we can claim
that it was an accident
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or self-defense
or even insanity.
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I mean, she's guilty.
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She did it.
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She kidnapped her niece.
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Well, that's where
jury nullification comes in.
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We've got to convince this jury
that the kidnapping law
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shouldn't apply to Elena's situation.
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She wasn't kidnapping her niece;
she was rescuing her.
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Let the prosecution
call it a kidnapping.
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We're gonna call it a rescue.
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I need to warn you--
the first witness
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to take the stand today
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is going to be your
former brother-in-law.
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Whatever you
may think about him,
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we need you to understand
the jury will almost certainly
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empathize with him.
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All they're gonna see
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is a young widower
who lost his only child.
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Wow. The bastard
sobered up long enough
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to fly three hours up the coast
so he could lie under oath?
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According to the prosecutor,
he's been sober for years.
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He's also remarried,
owns his own business,
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has a two-year-old son,
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and very much wants
his daughter back.
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Angela,
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the reason
we're telling you this...
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We need you to be careful
not to react when he testifies.
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The jury is watching you,
they're studying you.
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If they see anger,
if they see contempt,
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they're gonna presume
that you took this man's child
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out of spite.
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So...
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you got to
the hospital,
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walked into your
daughter's room,
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00:12:26,267 --> 00:12:28,051
and she just
wasn't there?
272
00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:30,314
Exactly. And no one...
no one knew where she was.
273
00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:32,577
So, of course,
I went to the police.
274
00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:34,579
And how long
before you figured out
275
00:12:34,623 --> 00:12:36,364
that it was probably
your sister-in-law
276
00:12:36,407 --> 00:12:37,974
who had taken her?
277
00:12:38,018 --> 00:12:41,151
Maybe a day.
There was hospital video.
278
00:12:41,195 --> 00:12:42,326
Uh...
279
00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:44,894
but the thing is,
no one realized
280
00:12:44,938 --> 00:12:48,071
that she had taken her for good,
281
00:12:48,115 --> 00:12:49,507
that she'd left the state.
282
00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:52,206
I kept thinking that she
had taken her to the movies
283
00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:55,513
or to some theme park to...
284
00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:57,559
take her mind
off of her mother.
285
00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:58,778
Mr. Cooper.
286
00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:02,912
Did you ever hit
your first wife?
287
00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:04,479
Never.
288
00:13:04,522 --> 00:13:06,873
Did you ever strike
your daughter Sarah?
289
00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:08,352
Never.
290
00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:10,006
Mr. Cooper,
291
00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,009
if the defendant
is found guilty,
292
00:13:13,053 --> 00:13:15,011
are you prepared
293
00:13:15,055 --> 00:13:18,014
to welcome your daughter
back into your home?
294
00:13:18,058 --> 00:13:20,060
Prepared? I have been waiting
295
00:13:20,103 --> 00:13:21,583
12 years for this.
296
00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:24,412
I would do anything
to have my child back. Yes.
298
00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,155
No further questions,
Your Honor.
299
00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:31,114
Mr. Col�n.
300
00:13:31,158 --> 00:13:32,333
Yes, Your Honor.
301
00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:34,204
Thank you, Your Honor.
303
00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:40,123
Mr. Cooper...
304
00:13:40,167 --> 00:13:43,300
we really appreciate
you coming all this way to...
305
00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:45,520
share your recollections.
306
00:13:45,563 --> 00:13:48,044
Recollections?
I-I-I'm talking about...
307
00:13:48,088 --> 00:13:49,437
my family.
308
00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,440
I'm talking about my blood,
my-my child.
309
00:13:52,483 --> 00:13:54,746
Yes, yes,
of course, of course, but...
310
00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:57,532
12 years is a long time.
311
00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,708
A lot has changed.
312
00:13:59,751 --> 00:14:01,188
Right?
313
00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:04,321
You're remarried, you have
a two-year-old at home...
314
00:14:04,365 --> 00:14:07,847
I never stopped looking.
I... I never gave up.
315
00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:09,065
If you say so, sir.
316
00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:11,285
Now...
317
00:14:11,328 --> 00:14:14,941
you were unemployed at the time
your daughter disappeared,
318
00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:18,466
weren't you?Yes, I-I had a tough time
after my wife died.
319
00:14:18,509 --> 00:14:20,555
Completely understandable.
320
00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:22,905
Although, our records indicate
321
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:24,907
that you were having a tough time
322
00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:27,257
even before your wife passed away,
323
00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:29,216
pretty much beginning
with the birth
324
00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:31,087
of your first child, Sarah.
325
00:14:31,131 --> 00:14:32,436
Objection, Your Honor.
326
00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,439
Is counsel asking a question
or testifying?
327
00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:38,268
Ask a question, Mr. Col�n.
328
00:14:38,312 --> 00:14:41,315
Absolutely, Your Honor.
My apologies, Your Honor.
329
00:14:41,358 --> 00:14:43,012
Uh...
330
00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:47,190
approximately how many jobs
would you say you held
331
00:14:47,234 --> 00:14:49,976
during the three-year period
332
00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:51,978
starting from the birth
of your first child
333
00:14:52,021 --> 00:14:53,980
to the date
that she disappeared?
334
00:14:54,023 --> 00:14:56,504
I don't know,
I was still a young man,
335
00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:58,898
still trying to...
find myself.
336
00:14:58,941 --> 00:14:59,942
Yeah, I get it.
337
00:14:59,986 --> 00:15:01,683
I'm just looking
for a number, sir.
338
00:15:01,726 --> 00:15:03,467
Three, maybe.
339
00:15:03,511 --> 00:15:04,599
Three.
340
00:15:04,642 --> 00:15:06,209
Three jobs in three years.
341
00:15:06,253 --> 00:15:08,037
That's what
you're testifying to?
342
00:15:08,081 --> 00:15:09,256
Could be four.
343
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:10,431
Objection, Your Honor.
Relevance?
344
00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:12,259
Your Honor, the defense
345
00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:14,914
is just trying to illustrate to the jury
346
00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:19,179
that my client has never denied
that she did what she did;
347
00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,442
the issue in this trial
is why she did it.
348
00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:23,487
And that's all we are attempting
349
00:15:23,531 --> 00:15:25,620
to illuminate, Your Honor.
350
00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:28,188
Objection overruled.
351
00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:30,364
You may proceed.
352
00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:33,019
Yeah. Now,
I'll ask just one more time.
353
00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:36,370
How many jobs did you hold
during the three-year period
354
00:15:36,413 --> 00:15:39,242
after your daughter's birth?
355
00:15:39,286 --> 00:15:41,114
Five.
356
00:15:41,157 --> 00:15:43,420
Five. Really?
357
00:15:43,464 --> 00:15:45,118
Huh.
358
00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:47,076
Our records show 11, sir.
360
00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:52,212
Do you care to venture
361
00:15:52,255 --> 00:15:55,302
as to how many alcohol-related
arrests during that period?
362
00:15:55,345 --> 00:15:58,740
I imagine you have that number as well.Oh, I do,
363
00:15:58,783 --> 00:16:02,439
I do, and it's almost as high
as the number of jobs lost.
364
00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:06,443
Again, beginning with the birth
of your first child,
365
00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:08,880
you were also on periods
of federal assistance,
366
00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:10,317
were you not?
367
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,622
Yes.
368
00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,016
I was on assistance,
but I'm not any longer.
369
00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:15,409
I haven't been for years.
370
00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:17,367
In fact,
you remained on assistance
371
00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:20,414
for almost 18 months after your
daughter's disappearance, right?
372
00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:21,632
Yeah. So?And isn't it also true
373
00:16:21,676 --> 00:16:23,417
that you never mentioned
374
00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:26,420
to your caseworker that
your daughter was gone,
375
00:16:26,463 --> 00:16:28,291
so that you
can continue to receive
376
00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,380
that extra assistance
the government pays
377
00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,513
to families with minor children?
379
00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,561
How's the view?
380
00:16:37,605 --> 00:16:39,389
Nobody is switching sides yet,
381
00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,044
but I can see we definitely have
382
00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:44,003
their attention.
I'm sorry,
383
00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:45,439
I-I didn't hear what you said.
384
00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:47,049
Like I said,
it was a difficult time.
385
00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:48,311
Ah.
386
00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,836
I made some mistakes.
387
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,362
I didn't attend to certain
things that needed attending to.
388
00:16:55,405 --> 00:16:56,580
I won't deny that.
389
00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:58,234
But I was a little busy
390
00:16:58,278 --> 00:17:01,629
putting up posters
on telephone polls...
391
00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:04,240
spending my days
looking for my child.
392
00:17:04,284 --> 00:17:06,460
Be that as it may,
393
00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:09,463
you accepted federal funds
under false pretense,
394
00:17:09,506 --> 00:17:10,899
didn't you?Objection.
395
00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:13,075
Asked and answered.
396
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,120
Objection sustained.
397
00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:16,383
Ask another question.
398
00:17:16,426 --> 00:17:19,168
Actually, I have no further
questions, Your Honor.
400
00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:40,494
I'm worried. I haven't heard
from Chloe since yesterday.
401
00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:42,496
That's funny, she
missed her appointment
402
00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:45,368
with Chunk this morning
to go over her testimony.
403
00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:47,675
All rise for the Honorable Judge Hopkins.
404
00:17:52,201 --> 00:17:53,985
Ms. Lawson,
405
00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:57,032
thank you for making the trip up from Florida.
406
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,295
Now, in 2008,
407
00:17:59,339 --> 00:18:01,384
you were the Florida Child Services investigator
408
00:18:01,428 --> 00:18:03,647
assigned to Sarah Cooper's case.
409
00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,388
Isn't that correct?Yes.
410
00:18:05,432 --> 00:18:08,304
And apparently, you
were called to the home
411
00:18:08,348 --> 00:18:10,132
a number of times.
412
00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:11,655
I was.
413
00:18:11,699 --> 00:18:13,004
Her aunt...
414
00:18:13,048 --> 00:18:14,571
the defendant...
415
00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:16,878
seemed convinced that there was
416
00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:18,793
some sort of abuse
going on in the household.
417
00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,795
So you investigated?
418
00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:21,839
I did.
419
00:18:21,883 --> 00:18:23,493
And what did you discover?
420
00:18:23,537 --> 00:18:27,193
I found some minor issues with hygiene.
421
00:18:27,236 --> 00:18:28,933
How do you mean?The kitchen sink
422
00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:30,500
had dirty dishes in it.
423
00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:33,112
Sarah's clothes hadn't been washed in a while.
424
00:18:33,155 --> 00:18:34,896
Pretty standard stuff.
425
00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:37,159
And frankly, to be expected in a household
426
00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,944
where the mother
had just passed.And wasn't there also
427
00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:43,948
some concern about a bruise
or bruises on her arms and legs?
428
00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:47,169
Again, concerns from the defendant.
429
00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:48,649
But when I saw the child,
430
00:18:48,692 --> 00:18:51,739
it was hard to determine
exactly what we were looking at.
431
00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:54,829
Now, the law requires us
to open an investigation
432
00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:57,875
24 hours after someone
files a concern,
433
00:18:57,919 --> 00:18:59,573
and we did that.
434
00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:02,924
But it did take us a couple
of days to get out there.
435
00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:05,622
And do you think that might have
accounted for your inability
436
00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:09,626
to recognize these bruises
or marks as evidence of abuse?
437
00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,411
Honestly, no.
438
00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:13,543
Generally speaking,
in child welfare cases,
439
00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:16,242
you're almost always talking
about injuries
440
00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:19,027
that are profound enough
to still be in evidence
441
00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:21,682
72, even 96 hours later.
442
00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,727
So you saw nothing
that gave you cause
443
00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:25,642
to consider removing the child
444
00:19:25,686 --> 00:19:27,209
from the home?Oh, gosh, no.
445
00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,950
That is always a last resort.
446
00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:32,693
My feeling was that
it would be best to continue
447
00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:35,565
to monitor the case, check back
with the family bimonthly,
448
00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:37,263
so that's what we did.
449
00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:39,308
And when the child
was brought to the hospital
450
00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:40,527
with a broken arm?
451
00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:42,442
We got there
as quickly as we could.
452
00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:45,053
But unfortunately,
when we arrived,
453
00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:48,665
the hospital had just discovered
that she was missing.
455
00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:55,498
No further questions,
Your Honor.
456
00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:58,371
I'm sure I don't need
457
00:19:58,414 --> 00:19:59,894
to tell you
we didn't win any friends
458
00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:01,896
with that testimony.
Hey.
459
00:20:01,939 --> 00:20:04,899
The inning's not over until
both sides have been up to bat.
460
00:20:04,942 --> 00:20:06,683
Ms. Lawson,
461
00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:09,599
you have a...
462
00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:11,862
really difficult job, don't you?
463
00:20:11,906 --> 00:20:14,343
It's not the easiest.
464
00:20:14,387 --> 00:20:16,693
In fact, even over a decade ago,
465
00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:19,392
while you were in the midst
of the Sarah Cooper case,
466
00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:23,134
you were carrying double
the recommended number of cases,
467
00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:24,179
isn't that right?
468
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,702
Goes with the territory.
469
00:20:25,746 --> 00:20:27,138
At least in Florida.
470
00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:28,618
Now, Ms. Lawson,
471
00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:31,447
after Mrs. Cooper passed away
472
00:20:31,491 --> 00:20:34,494
and during the time Sarah
was living with her father,
473
00:20:34,537 --> 00:20:36,539
were you aware of any children
474
00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:41,501
in the state of Florida
that died as a result of abuse
475
00:20:41,544 --> 00:20:44,025
while being actively monitored
by your agency?
476
00:20:45,069 --> 00:20:47,594
Sadly, I'm sure some did.
477
00:20:47,637 --> 00:20:49,900
I couldn't give you a number.
478
00:20:49,944 --> 00:20:51,685
We are talking about 12 years ago.
479
00:20:51,728 --> 00:20:53,121
Indeed.
480
00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:56,516
Would it surprise you
to learn that 12 years ago,
481
00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,780
that number was actually 79?
483
00:21:02,652 --> 00:21:05,655
79 children died
484
00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:09,485
as a result of abuse
while being actively monitored
485
00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:12,445
by Florida Child Service
investigators.
486
00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:14,316
Now,
487
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,752
how long do you think
the defendant
488
00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:17,101
should have waited?
489
00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:19,016
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
490
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,323
How long should
the defendant have waited
491
00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:24,674
before her sister's child
was number 80?
494
00:21:28,199 --> 00:21:29,723
Mr. Col�n.
495
00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,333
You are out of order.
496
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:32,552
Now the jury
will ignore
497
00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:34,031
that last question.
498
00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:35,729
I apologize, Your Honor.
499
00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:37,731
Actually, I have
no further questions
500
00:21:37,774 --> 00:21:39,428
at this time.
501
00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:40,647
Does the prosecution have
502
00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:42,649
any further questions for this witness?
503
00:21:42,692 --> 00:21:44,564
Not at this time, Your Honor.
504
00:21:44,607 --> 00:21:46,043
Then the witness is excused.
505
00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,570
Please call your next witness.
506
00:21:52,702 --> 00:21:55,662
The prosecution would like to
call Sarah Cooper to the stand.
508
00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:20,469
What was it like to find out
509
00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:22,645
your name wasn't your name,
510
00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:24,821
your mother wasn't
your mother?
511
00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:26,867
It's hard to describe.
512
00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:29,435
Were you surprised to learn
that your biological father
513
00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:31,872
was alive,
after being told
514
00:22:31,915 --> 00:22:33,613
for so many years
that he had died
515
00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,876
in Afghanistan?
516
00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:37,007
Of course.
517
00:22:37,051 --> 00:22:38,226
And what were
you thinking,
518
00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:41,708
when you sat here
in this courtroom
519
00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:44,319
two days ago
and watched him,
520
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,668
very much alive,
521
00:22:45,712 --> 00:22:48,236
testify about how much
he loved you and missed you?
522
00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:53,589
Just that I wanted
to talk to him.
523
00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:55,243
Get to know him a little bit.
524
00:22:56,287 --> 00:22:57,854
Now,
525
00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:01,467
let's talk about your aunt.
526
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:04,513
After years of telling you
that she was your mother,
527
00:23:04,557 --> 00:23:07,081
that your father
had died overseas,
528
00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:09,170
what did she tell you
about your father
529
00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:12,391
once she admitted that
he was, in fact, alive?
530
00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:13,740
What did she offer
as an excuse
531
00:23:13,783 --> 00:23:16,830
for taking you from him?
532
00:23:16,873 --> 00:23:19,615
For keeping you from him?
533
00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:22,313
She said that he hurt
my real mother.
534
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,318
She said that he hurt me.
535
00:23:27,362 --> 00:23:28,972
He broke my arm.
536
00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:30,234
Did you believe her?
537
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,628
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
538
00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:34,848
The attorney is badgering the witness.
539
00:23:34,891 --> 00:23:37,111
And I question the relevance
540
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,591
of this whole line of questioning.
541
00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:40,506
KNIGHT:
I'll withdraw
the question, Your Honor.
542
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:42,551
But if I may just ask
one more thing.
543
00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:44,901
Sarah,
544
00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:46,903
are you open to the possibility
545
00:23:46,947 --> 00:23:48,818
of a relationship
with your father
546
00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:50,559
now that you know
that he is alive?
547
00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:54,781
I guess so.
548
00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:56,783
He seems nice.
549
00:23:56,826 --> 00:23:58,437
And I'd...
550
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,048
kinda like to know
what it's like to have a father.
552
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:04,747
No further questions,
553
00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:06,836
Your Honor.
554
00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:10,927
Chloe...
555
00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:13,452
Is it okay if I call you Chloe?
556
00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:15,932
Would you rather I address you as Sarah?
557
00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:17,760
Chloe's okay.
558
00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:19,849
I'm kinda used to Chloe.
559
00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:21,285
Chloe it is.
560
00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:24,680
Now, why do you think
561
00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:27,683
your mother made you believe
your father was a war hero?
562
00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:28,902
I don't know.
563
00:24:28,945 --> 00:24:30,512
I guess so I'd respect him,
564
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,209
feel good about him.
565
00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:33,689
And did she ever...
566
00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:35,778
say anything negative about him
567
00:24:35,822 --> 00:24:38,955
prior to the police
charging her with kidnapping?
568
00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:40,957
No. Never.
569
00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,785
Actually, she always talked about him
570
00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:44,831
like he was pretty amazing.
571
00:24:44,874 --> 00:24:47,660
And would you say
you've been well-cared-for
572
00:24:47,703 --> 00:24:50,271
these past 12 years?
573
00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:52,926
Well-clothed? Well-fed?
574
00:24:52,969 --> 00:24:54,754
Did you feel loved?
575
00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:56,146
I did. Yes.
576
00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:59,672
And didn't your mother
put you in private school?
577
00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:02,762
Encourage you to
learn the violin?
578
00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:04,851
Teach you Spanish
and French?
579
00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:06,287
You mean my aunt?
580
00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:08,028
Yes,
581
00:25:08,071 --> 00:25:09,943
she's been a wonderful parent to me.
582
00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,467
And you're old enough
to understand that...
583
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,600
private school,
584
00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:16,689
tutors, music lessons--
585
00:25:16,732 --> 00:25:18,865
all of that costs money.
586
00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,302
And who was it that
was paying for it?
587
00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:22,869
My aunt.
588
00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:24,435
And, lastly,
589
00:25:24,479 --> 00:25:28,701
have you ever known your aunt
to be violent or aggressive?
590
00:25:28,744 --> 00:25:29,702
No.
591
00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:31,225
Did she ever hit you?
592
00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:32,574
No.
593
00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:33,967
She ever curse at you? No.
594
00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:35,882
Raise her voice?
595
00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,405
Once or twice.
596
00:25:37,448 --> 00:25:39,146
But I probably deserved it.
597
00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:42,584
Do you think she loves you?
598
00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:44,673
Uh, yes.
599
00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:46,936
I know she does.
600
00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,895
Thank you.
601
00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:50,897
No further questions,
Your Honor.
602
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,076
Give me a burp.
603
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,078
I can't put you down
till I get a burp.
605
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:03,083
Hey.
606
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,172
That was the wrong end.
608
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:07,914
Come on.
609
00:26:07,957 --> 00:26:08,871
I need a burp.
610
00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,394
Here we go.
611
00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:13,136
That's a girl.
612
00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:15,312
Give me a burp.
613
00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:17,358
I...
614
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,017
Hello, Marissa.
615
00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,062
Am I catching you at a bad time?
616
00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:28,891
No, I'm just trying to wrap up
the 10:00 p.m. feeding here
617
00:26:28,935 --> 00:26:30,414
in Astrid-land.
618
00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:31,807
Intake went well.
619
00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:33,896
We're just working
on some outbound action.
620
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:34,897
What's up?
621
00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:36,812
Danny just called from Florida.
622
00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,814
She's found two people
that seem to corroborate
623
00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,511
Elena's story about Jim.
624
00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,296
One is a teacher
625
00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:44,472
at a preschool that
Jim's two-year-old attended.
626
00:26:44,515 --> 00:26:47,867
That is until she asked
questions about bruises
627
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,913
the little boy started
showing up to school with.Shh...
628
00:26:50,957 --> 00:26:52,045
And she also found
629
00:26:52,088 --> 00:26:54,525
a dermatologist
his new wife was seeing.
630
00:26:54,569 --> 00:26:56,702
Apparently, she has something
to say as well.
631
00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,966
Both are willing
to fly up to testify.
632
00:27:00,009 --> 00:27:01,576
Well, why don't you e-mail me
633
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:02,969
all the pertinent details,
634
00:27:03,012 --> 00:27:04,579
and Benny and I will add 'em
to the witness list
635
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:05,972
tomorrow morning.
636
00:27:06,015 --> 00:27:08,801
Did Danny find the wife yet?
637
00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,150
She thinks
she might be away on business,
638
00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:11,804
but she's still looking.Okay.
639
00:27:11,847 --> 00:27:14,502
Ooh, I felt that.
640
00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,722
I got to go.
641
00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,724
Your Honor, these new witnesses
642
00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:19,899
aren't witnesses.
643
00:27:19,942 --> 00:27:20,900
Excuse me,
644
00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:22,902
but the prosecution has rested.
645
00:27:22,945 --> 00:27:25,165
It is now time for the defense
646
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,254
to present ourdefense,
647
00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:29,473
which is what we're trying
to do right now, Your Honor.
648
00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:32,389
Your Honor, not only have
we had no time to prepare...
649
00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:34,000
Oh, take all the time you need.
650
00:27:34,043 --> 00:27:35,001
Your Honor...
652
00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,830
The charges before the court
653
00:27:37,873 --> 00:27:39,962
are extremely serious...Which is why
654
00:27:40,006 --> 00:27:43,139
these witnesses are so
important, Your Honor.
655
00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:47,056
They directly contradict
Jim Cooper's testimony.
656
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,362
He said under oath
657
00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:50,973
that he has never
physically abused anyone.
658
00:27:51,017 --> 00:27:52,845
Well, we have records
659
00:27:52,888 --> 00:27:54,847
from Jim Cooper's
two-year-old son's
660
00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:57,197
former preschool teacher,
661
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,547
who noticed fresh bruises
on the boy.
662
00:27:59,590 --> 00:28:02,115
And when she confronted him
about the bruises,
663
00:28:02,158 --> 00:28:05,031
the teacher said
that he abruptly pulled the kid
664
00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:06,075
from the school.
665
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,076
In other words,
666
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,948
she witnessed nothing.
667
00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:10,123
And, secondly,
668
00:28:10,166 --> 00:28:13,300
the current Mrs.
Cooper's dermatologist
669
00:28:13,343 --> 00:28:16,651
treated her for a
burn on her forearm,
670
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,871
which she suspected
was from a cigarette,
671
00:28:18,914 --> 00:28:20,699
less than four weeks ago.
672
00:28:20,742 --> 00:28:22,178
Again, this is
circumstantial evidence
673
00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:24,746
and is irrelevant
to the kidnapping charges.
675
00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:31,100
AUSA Knight makes a valid point.
676
00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:32,536
The real question
677
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:35,452
is did the witnesses actually see
678
00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,759
Mr. Cooper inflict these injuries.
679
00:28:37,803 --> 00:28:39,326
Judge Hopkins,
we all know it's unlikely
680
00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:41,894
that Mr. Cooper would beat
his two-year-old son
681
00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:43,330
in front of a crowd of onlookers
682
00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:44,897
or burn his wife in public.
683
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,812
Your Honor,
684
00:28:46,855 --> 00:28:49,510
the jury should be allowed
to hear the testimony,
685
00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,991
review the documents,
draw their own inferences.
686
00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:53,906
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm-I'm sorry.
687
00:28:53,949 --> 00:28:55,124
I don't agree.
688
00:28:55,168 --> 00:28:57,039
Mr. Cooper is not
689
00:28:57,083 --> 00:28:58,214
on trial here.
690
00:28:58,258 --> 00:28:59,999
And the probative value
691
00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:03,916
of what sounds like speculation
and-and hearsay
692
00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:07,049
is outweighed by the prejudicial
effect it's certain to have.
693
00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:08,442
And none of it
is relevant
694
00:29:08,485 --> 00:29:11,619
as to whether or not
your client kidnapped his child,
695
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:15,144
which is the only issue
the jury is here to resolve.
696
00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:18,017
Now, I have to agree
with prosecution.
697
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,019
Unless these people
698
00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:22,717
actually witnessed Mr. Cooper
hurt someone,
699
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:25,546
their testimony is irrelevant.
700
00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:27,809
Do you have any other witnesses
you want to present?
701
00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:29,115
With Your Honor's permission,
702
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,857
we would like to ask
for a one-day continuance.
703
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,730
I'd love to confer
with my client on next steps.
704
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,385
It's like I told you.
705
00:29:38,428 --> 00:29:40,909
Bottom line is she did it.
706
00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,520
She took this man's child.
707
00:29:43,564 --> 00:29:45,305
Kind of impossible
708
00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:48,003
to mount a defense against
something that's indisputable.
709
00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:56,098
I just heard.
710
00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:57,796
No court today.
711
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,450
They want me to change,
take me back to prison.
712
00:30:00,494 --> 00:30:02,539
Is everything all right?
713
00:30:03,584 --> 00:30:04,977
We need to talk.
714
00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:06,805
We can
715
00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:07,936
press forward.
716
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:09,677
Mr. Col�n could put you on the stand.
717
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,158
You're really the only witness we have.
718
00:30:12,201 --> 00:30:13,812
Unfortunately,
719
00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:16,075
you're not the witness we need.
720
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,512
What do you mean?
721
00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:19,818
We need someone
722
00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:21,471
who can tell the jury under oath
723
00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:25,171
that they've actually seen Mr.
Cooper be physically abusive.
724
00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:28,000
Preferably multiple times.
725
00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:29,262
It's the only thing
726
00:30:29,305 --> 00:30:32,178
that's gonna make the jury
second-guess
727
00:30:32,221 --> 00:30:33,788
the A.D.A.'s assertion
728
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,616
that you're nothing more
than a kidnapper.
729
00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,879
With your permission,
what I'd like to do
730
00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,969
is go to the A.D.A.
and see if we can't broker
731
00:30:41,013 --> 00:30:42,231
some kind of a deal.
732
00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:44,103
She's not a stupid person.
733
00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,540
She knows that this hearsay
734
00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:48,934
and circumstantial evidence
may not hold up in court,
735
00:30:48,977 --> 00:30:52,241
but I'm willing to bet she knows
there's a whiff of truth to it.
736
00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:54,417
Maybe we can use that
737
00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:57,594
to wrestle some favorable terms from her.
738
00:30:57,638 --> 00:31:00,336
Would I still have to go to prison?
739
00:31:01,381 --> 00:31:03,949
Yes.
740
00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,734
I'm hoping we can keep it
to less than five years,
741
00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:09,215
as opposed to the ten to 20
you're looking at now.
742
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,522
Oh, my God.
743
00:31:15,090 --> 00:31:17,092
What about Chloe?
744
00:31:18,137 --> 00:31:19,138
She'd be
745
00:31:19,181 --> 00:31:20,704
returned back to her father.
747
00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:25,927
She's 15.
748
00:31:25,971 --> 00:31:27,189
If he starts abusing her,
749
00:31:27,233 --> 00:31:29,191
it will not stay secret long.
750
00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:30,714
And for what it's worth,
751
00:31:30,758 --> 00:31:33,892
your ex-brother-in-law
is on notice.
752
00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,241
He knows
753
00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,243
we're all watching.
754
00:31:37,286 --> 00:31:40,202
And would I ever get
to see her again?
755
00:31:41,203 --> 00:31:43,727
Do I get to see Chloe?
757
00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:48,689
You'd be
a convicted kidnapper, so...
758
00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,256
no, I don't think
759
00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,127
that's at all likely.
762
00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:11,103
Mrs. Cooper?
763
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:13,409
My name is Danny James.
I'm an investigator
764
00:32:13,453 --> 00:32:16,021
working on a court case
involving your husband
765
00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:18,937
and his daughter
from a previous marriage.
766
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,374
I'm... kind of
on vacation with my son.
767
00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,898
I don't really want
to get involved.
768
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,944
I promise,
it'll be two minutes.
769
00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:30,731
Mrs. Cooper,
don't make me get a subpoena.
771
00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:40,871
Can we make this fast?
772
00:32:40,915 --> 00:32:44,832
I-I promised my little boy I
would take him to a water park.
773
00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,442
Sure. And I'm sorry.
774
00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,445
Uh, look, we have reason
to believe that your husband
775
00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:51,839
may have been physically abusive
to your little boy.
776
00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:54,233
And to you.
777
00:32:54,276 --> 00:32:55,799
Seriously?
778
00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:58,019
That's what you want
to talk to me about?
779
00:32:58,063 --> 00:33:00,021
Where did you
hear that?
780
00:33:00,065 --> 00:33:01,980
That's crazy.
781
00:33:02,763 --> 00:33:04,330
Are you married?
782
00:33:04,373 --> 00:33:05,853
You ever been married?
783
00:33:05,896 --> 00:33:08,116
No.Well, I've only
been at it
784
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,858
for a few years, but let
me tell you two things
785
00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:12,599
I know for sure.
786
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:15,123
One, marriage,
787
00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,040
like any deal, is filled
with lots of good
788
00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:21,129
and also some bad.
789
00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:22,957
My boy.
790
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,350
I love my boy.
791
00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:26,569
And that's one of the
goods, one of the greats.
792
00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:29,050
And I don't worry
much about...
793
00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:32,488
bills anymore, and you can't hate that, so...
794
00:33:32,532 --> 00:33:34,186
if my husband comes home sometimes
795
00:33:34,229 --> 00:33:37,232
and he's not in a stellar mood,
then...I'm not just talking
796
00:33:37,276 --> 00:33:39,843
about someone in a bad mood,
Mrs. Cooper.And the other thing--
797
00:33:39,887 --> 00:33:42,063
and you ought
to know this--
798
00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:45,545
uh, you can't force me to
testify against my own husband.
799
00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:48,026
You can't.
800
00:33:49,288 --> 00:33:52,247
Plus, I don't have
anything to testify to.
801
00:33:52,291 --> 00:33:54,945
So are we done here?
802
00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:57,992
I can help you.
I can help both of you.
803
00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:00,429
By how?
804
00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,997
By-by destroying my family?
805
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,347
And anyway, like I said...
806
00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:08,872
isn't what happens between a
husband and a wife private?
807
00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:12,354
Conversations between spouses
are privileged, but...
808
00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:15,792
not when there are
allegations of abuse.
809
00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,577
Okay, I think you
need to go now.
810
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:19,405
You wouldn't have to look
at him in court.
811
00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:22,016
We could have him
sequestered.
812
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:24,453
And after the trial,
my boss and I, we would help you
813
00:34:24,497 --> 00:34:26,890
and your little son
back on your feet.
814
00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:28,849
And in a safe place,
I promise.
815
00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:30,981
That is...
816
00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:33,071
if you're willing
to testify.
817
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,421
That is...
818
00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:37,292
if you're willing to admit
819
00:34:37,336 --> 00:34:40,252
you actually have something
to testify to.
820
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:43,864
Mommy?
821
00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:45,822
Oh.
822
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,520
Noah.
823
00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:51,045
Say hello to the nice lady.
825
00:35:04,276 --> 00:35:06,539
Let me call my mother.
826
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:09,063
See if she can take my baby.
827
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:12,806
Mrs. Cooper,
828
00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:16,157
I know it's uncomfortable
you being here.
829
00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:19,856
We've sequestered your
husband as per your request,
830
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,120
and, speaking for the defense,
831
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,122
we really appreciate you
making the trip.
832
00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,776
It's okay.Now,
833
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:30,911
when your husband told you
he needed to come to New York
834
00:35:30,954 --> 00:35:32,565
for a court date,
835
00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:35,002
did he explain the
nature of the trial?
836
00:35:35,045 --> 00:35:37,178
Uh, no, not really.
837
00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:40,181
He said it was a business thing.
838
00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:43,053
So you and your two-year-old son
839
00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:45,447
just decided to take a little road trip?
840
00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:47,275
Yes.
841
00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:49,886
I just...
842
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:53,020
with Jim away...
843
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,196
I just needed
to do some thinking.
844
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,415
Well...
845
00:35:56,458 --> 00:36:00,114
I'm sorry to have
interrupted your trip.
846
00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:02,377
So let me get
right into it.
847
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,380
Here goes nothing.
848
00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,469
Mrs. Cooper,
849
00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:10,124
have you ever been
afraid of your husband?
850
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,474
Yes.
851
00:36:12,518 --> 00:36:15,956
And can you please
explain to the jury why?
852
00:36:15,999 --> 00:36:18,524
Uh, he yells at me sometimes.
853
00:36:19,394 --> 00:36:21,483
Like when our two-year-old cries.
854
00:36:21,527 --> 00:36:25,792
And he'll, uh, slam doors...
855
00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:29,099
break things
when something upsets him.
856
00:36:29,143 --> 00:36:30,710
And in the past,
857
00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:33,582
when something upset him,
has he ever gotten physical
858
00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:35,280
with you or Noah?
859
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:39,806
This was from a week ago.
861
00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:48,249
Let the record reflect
862
00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:50,469
that the witness is talking
863
00:36:50,512 --> 00:36:54,516
about the bruising and swelling
on the right side of her face.
864
00:36:56,170 --> 00:36:59,695
And can you please explain the
events surrounding the injury?
865
00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,743
I told Jim
I wanted to go back to school,
866
00:37:03,786 --> 00:37:07,225
and he started screaming
about who would care for Noah.
867
00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:09,270
And then what happened?
868
00:37:09,314 --> 00:37:12,752
I-I told him...
that we would figure it out.
869
00:37:12,795 --> 00:37:15,058
A lot of people figure it out.
870
00:37:15,102 --> 00:37:17,147
And how did he respond?He...
871
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:20,020
balled up his fist and...
872
00:37:22,457 --> 00:37:24,024
I lost two teeth.
874
00:37:29,421 --> 00:37:32,685
Now, let's talk
about your two-year-old son.
875
00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:36,210
He has his arm in a sling, doesn't he?
876
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,038
He does.
877
00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:39,039
And...
878
00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:40,736
do you know what happened to him?
879
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:43,304
Yes, and no.
880
00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:46,089
I had to work on a Saturday,
881
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,614
and Jim stayed home with him.
882
00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:50,703
He wasn't happy about it.
883
00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:54,228
And when I got home
eight hours later,
884
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,839
they had already been
to the emergency room and back.
885
00:37:58,145 --> 00:38:01,844
Apparently, Noah's arm
got pulled out of its socket.
887
00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,328
Jim said they
were just horsing around.
888
00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:13,639
What did Noah say?
889
00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:14,814
Objection. Hearsay.
890
00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:16,206
Your Honor,
891
00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:17,860
the child is two years old.
892
00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:19,079
Would you really have me
893
00:38:19,122 --> 00:38:20,515
call him here
894
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,170
to testify?[sighs]:
I'll allow it.
895
00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,173
Witness will answer
the question.
896
00:38:26,216 --> 00:38:28,131
No, he-he didn't
really say anything.
897
00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:31,178
He's only two,
and he's very shy.
898
00:38:33,049 --> 00:38:35,008
But every time Jim comes near him,
899
00:38:35,051 --> 00:38:37,097
he hides behind my leg.Objection.
900
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:39,186
Your Honor,
this is simply speculation.
901
00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:41,057
It proves nothing.
902
00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,756
Objection sustained.
The jury will disregard
903
00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:46,019
the witness's testimony
with respect
904
00:38:46,062 --> 00:38:47,063
to her two-year-old child.
905
00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:49,065
Isn't it true
your son had
906
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:52,678
a preschool teacher
that expressed concern
907
00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:55,594
about visible bruising
on the boy's body
908
00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:57,378
and brought it
to your husband's attention,
909
00:38:57,422 --> 00:39:02,035
who responded by withdrawing
your child from the school?
910
00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:04,080
Way to slip one in, Benny.KNIGHT:
Your Honor,
911
00:39:04,124 --> 00:39:06,082
objection.
This is just more hearsay
912
00:39:06,126 --> 00:39:08,171
masquerading as testimony.
913
00:39:08,215 --> 00:39:10,130
Objection sustained.
Counselor,
914
00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:12,350
I know what you're doing.
915
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:13,438
I don't like it.
916
00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:15,265
Now, I need you to ask questions
917
00:39:15,309 --> 00:39:17,093
that pertain only to events
918
00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:18,704
that the witness
would have seen for herself.
919
00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,314
Yes, Your Honor.
920
00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:21,837
Come on.
921
00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:24,144
They got to be reacting to this.
922
00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:28,104
Indeed they are.
You just flipped two.
923
00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:34,328
Mrs. Cooper...
924
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:37,331
were there any other incidents
of physical violence
925
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,900
that either involved you
or to which...
926
00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:42,641
you were a direct witness?
927
00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:45,426
He, uh...
928
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,907
burned me.
929
00:39:48,951 --> 00:39:51,301
Here and here.
930
00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:53,608
With cigarettes.
931
00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:56,263
He...
932
00:39:56,306 --> 00:39:58,570
bit my ear.
933
00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:01,137
I had to get stitches.
934
00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:03,052
Anything else?
935
00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:06,404
He kicked me once.
936
00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,188
Kicked you where,
937
00:40:08,231 --> 00:40:10,146
Mrs. Cooper?
938
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,453
Between my legs.
939
00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:14,194
[gallery murmuring]
940
00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,283
And you were able
941
00:40:16,326 --> 00:40:19,721
to document
each of these incidents?
942
00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:21,157
In each case,
943
00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:23,508
you went and sought
medical attention afterwards?
944
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:25,161
Yes.
945
00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:27,294
Although, I always
made up a story
946
00:40:27,337 --> 00:40:30,210
as to how I got the injury.
947
00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,430
Thank you.
948
00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:34,432
No further questions,
Your Honor.
949
00:40:40,612 --> 00:40:43,528
So, you admit you lied
about the details
950
00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:46,313
when you sought medical
help for these...
951
00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:48,271
so-called injuries?
952
00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:50,360
Yes. I was embarrassed.
953
00:40:50,404 --> 00:40:52,450
So tell me,
Mrs. Cooper,
954
00:40:52,493 --> 00:40:55,540
now that we've established
that you're an admitted liar,
955
00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:59,239
why should we believe
anything else you say?
956
00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:00,719
For instance,
957
00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:03,765
how do we know these injures
aren't self-inflicted?
958
00:41:05,419 --> 00:41:06,333
Well, I...
959
00:41:06,376 --> 00:41:08,901
I wouldn't burn my own arm...
960
00:41:08,944 --> 00:41:10,903
ma'am.
961
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:13,862
And I'm not even sure
how I would bite my own ear.
962
00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,516
Not to mention
963
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,344
kick myself...
964
00:41:17,387 --> 00:41:20,347
where I indicated.
965
00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:38,887
Wait, where is Mr. Col�n?
966
00:41:38,931 --> 00:41:40,498
Well, he stayed behind
967
00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:42,717
to talk to your
ex-brother-in-law's new wife.
968
00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:44,719
She wanted to file charges
against him,
969
00:41:44,763 --> 00:41:46,982
and Benny's offered
to put her in touch
970
00:41:47,026 --> 00:41:49,028
with the D.A. in Florida.
971
00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:54,512
How do I do this?
972
00:41:54,555 --> 00:41:55,904
Where do I start?
973
00:41:55,948 --> 00:41:59,212
Am I Elena, or do I go
back to being Angela?
974
00:41:59,255 --> 00:42:02,258
What do people call me?
What do I call myself?
975
00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:04,565
Mom!
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