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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:18,496 $600 for a freaking T-shirt? 2 00:00:18,540 --> 00:00:21,282 Did you say $600? 3 00:00:21,325 --> 00:00:22,631 Wow. 4 00:00:22,674 --> 00:00:24,633 This is SoHo, Chloe. 5 00:00:24,676 --> 00:00:26,069 Still. 6 00:00:26,113 --> 00:00:28,202 [clerk clears throat] 7 00:00:28,245 --> 00:00:31,161 Ladies, let me know if there's anything I can help you with. 8 00:00:31,205 --> 00:00:33,207 Thank you. 9 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,603 We should probably head back to Brooklyn soon. 10 00:00:39,648 --> 00:00:42,216 Oh, my God, a scarf is $400? 11 00:00:47,656 --> 00:00:49,179 Should I get it? 12 00:00:49,223 --> 00:00:51,660 What? No. Your mom will kill you. 13 00:00:54,489 --> 00:00:55,620 NINA: Hey. 14 00:00:55,664 --> 00:00:58,667 I didn't say anything about buying it. 15 00:01:01,148 --> 00:01:02,497 Oh, come on. 16 00:01:02,540 --> 00:01:04,281 Warmth is a fundamental human right. 17 00:01:04,325 --> 00:01:08,068 And I need a scarf. 18 00:01:08,111 --> 00:01:11,201 Relax. You're gonna attract attention. 19 00:01:15,379 --> 00:01:16,902 NINA: Hey. 20 00:01:16,946 --> 00:01:20,297 You should get those earrings. They're your favorite color. 21 00:01:20,341 --> 00:01:22,517 I don't think so. 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,302 Do you know how cute you'd look with them? 23 00:01:45,105 --> 00:01:46,193 Sorry, ladies. 24 00:01:46,236 --> 00:01:49,674 I'm gonna need to see inside those purses. 25 00:01:55,202 --> 00:01:57,726 Good afternoon. My name is Elena Smith. 26 00:01:57,769 --> 00:02:00,120 I got a phone call that my 15-year-old daughter 27 00:02:00,163 --> 00:02:02,513 was arrested for shoplifting? 28 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:10,130 Wait, there must be some mistake. 29 00:02:10,173 --> 00:02:12,436 I'm supposed to meet my daughter in here. 30 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,264 There's been no mistake, Ms. Smith. 31 00:02:14,308 --> 00:02:15,961 It's you we want to talk to. 32 00:02:16,005 --> 00:02:18,138 I'm Agent Franks with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 33 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:19,313 This is Agent Arnold. 34 00:02:19,356 --> 00:02:21,402 Would you please take a seat? 35 00:02:21,445 --> 00:02:22,881 Shoplifting? 36 00:02:22,925 --> 00:02:26,276 Is that something the FBI gets involved with these days? 37 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,105 Uh, just for the record, you're Chloe Smith's mom?Yes. 38 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:31,760 Is she okay? W-What did she do? 39 00:02:33,283 --> 00:02:36,199 Chloe's real name isn't Chloe at all, is it? 40 00:02:36,243 --> 00:02:38,158 And her last name isn't Smith. 41 00:02:38,201 --> 00:02:40,769 For that matter, I'm guessing neither is yours. 42 00:02:41,813 --> 00:02:44,164 Your daughter, who isn't your daughter, 43 00:02:44,207 --> 00:02:47,341 her real name is Sarah Cooper, isn't it? 44 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:48,907 FRANKS: We ran her prints. 45 00:02:48,951 --> 00:02:51,214 She's originally from Clearwater, Florida, 46 00:02:51,258 --> 00:02:53,869 and we suspect maybe you are, too. 47 00:02:53,912 --> 00:02:57,612 Your real name's Angela Brown, isn't it? 48 00:02:57,655 --> 00:02:59,048 ARNOLD: Ms. Brown, 49 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:01,050 we've been looking for you and that little girl 50 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:02,443 for an awfully long time. 51 00:03:03,487 --> 00:03:05,185 [knocking on glass] 52 00:03:08,231 --> 00:03:09,537 Go away.BENNY: No. 53 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:11,495 Nope. I need to speak with you. 54 00:03:11,539 --> 00:03:13,105 Have some mercy. 55 00:03:13,149 --> 00:03:15,195 You know I have a two-week-old at home. 56 00:03:15,238 --> 00:03:17,893 I know that.[knocking on glass] 57 00:03:19,155 --> 00:03:23,420 She's adorable, but confused. 58 00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:26,206 Doesn't know night from day.[knocking continues] 59 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:27,859 Ugh, come on. 60 00:03:27,903 --> 00:03:31,298 I'm working on 22 minutes' sleep here. 61 00:03:31,341 --> 00:03:33,561 I beg you. 62 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:36,303 Sorry, Bull. 63 00:03:36,346 --> 00:03:38,261 You know, I just, uh, 64 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:40,829 got off the phone with my financial guy, 65 00:03:40,872 --> 00:03:42,700 trying to start a college fund 66 00:03:42,744 --> 00:03:46,617 for baby Bull, but I got to have her full name. 67 00:03:46,661 --> 00:03:48,402 They won't let me open up an account 68 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:51,231 without a last name and a first name. 69 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:54,146 So what's it gonna be? Asa or Ingrid? 70 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:56,540 Remember? 71 00:03:56,584 --> 00:03:59,239 You told me you wanted to name her Ingrid, 72 00:03:59,282 --> 00:04:01,371 and Izzy wanted to name her Asa. 73 00:04:01,415 --> 00:04:04,156 So where'd you guys end up? 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,549 We met in the middle. 75 00:04:05,593 --> 00:04:07,247 What? Inga? 76 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:09,031 Astrid. 77 00:04:09,074 --> 00:04:10,250 Ah. 78 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:14,166 Astrid. 79 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:16,952 I like it. Never heard it before, 80 00:04:16,995 --> 00:04:18,170 but I like it. 81 00:04:18,214 --> 00:04:19,824 Same here. 82 00:04:19,868 --> 00:04:21,043 [knocking on glass] 83 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:22,262 [sighs] See what you started? 84 00:04:23,437 --> 00:04:25,613 You two boys interested in running up 85 00:04:25,656 --> 00:04:28,268 to the Metropolitan Correctional Center late this afternoon, 86 00:04:28,311 --> 00:04:31,140 and talking to a woman accused of kidnapping her niece 87 00:04:31,183 --> 00:04:34,274 12 years ago and bringing her up as her daughter? 88 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:36,058 [cell door closes] 89 00:04:36,101 --> 00:04:41,324 12 years ago, my younger sister Marie died in a car accident. 90 00:04:41,368 --> 00:04:42,630 She had just dropped her three-year-old daughter 91 00:04:42,673 --> 00:04:44,066 off at day care. 92 00:04:44,109 --> 00:04:45,850 Sarah. Sarah Cooper. 93 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:48,026 Yes. 94 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:49,941 That was the name she was born with. 95 00:04:49,985 --> 00:04:51,856 Sarah Cooper. 96 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:54,076 And what about her father? 97 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:58,167 What was going on with Sarah's father after your sister died? 98 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:01,344 My brother-in-law had issues with impulse control. 99 00:05:01,388 --> 00:05:05,348 Struggled with his drinking, with drugs. 100 00:05:05,392 --> 00:05:08,090 He used to beat my sister. 101 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:10,614 He used to hurt Chloe. 102 00:05:10,658 --> 00:05:12,268 Sarah. 103 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:13,835 And you witnessed this? 104 00:05:13,878 --> 00:05:15,358 I saw the bruises. 105 00:05:15,402 --> 00:05:17,186 But your sister confided in you? 106 00:05:17,229 --> 00:05:18,709 She didn't have to confide in me. 107 00:05:18,753 --> 00:05:21,495 S-She didn't have to say it. She was my sister. 108 00:05:21,538 --> 00:05:25,412 Uh, these bruises, did you ask her about them? 109 00:05:25,455 --> 00:05:26,848 I tried. 110 00:05:26,891 --> 00:05:31,069 She'd tell me she walked into a door. 111 00:05:31,113 --> 00:05:34,246 Or when her hand had what looked to me like cigarette burns, 112 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:37,598 she'd tell me she did it to herself on the stove. 113 00:05:37,641 --> 00:05:39,295 Tell me about Sarah. 114 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:41,863 After Marie died, 115 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:44,213 I noticed she started having bruises. 116 00:05:44,256 --> 00:05:46,171 And did you ask your brother-in-law? 117 00:05:46,215 --> 00:05:48,348 The girl's father? 118 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,393 He'd tell me Sarah fell down. 119 00:05:50,437 --> 00:05:52,308 "Sarah fell off her big wheel." 120 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:55,006 There was always a story. 121 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:58,401 So, I contacted Florida's Department 122 00:05:58,445 --> 00:06:00,403 of Children and Families. 123 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:02,449 But by the time they came out to investigate, 124 00:06:02,492 --> 00:06:04,451 the bruises were almost gone. 125 00:06:04,494 --> 00:06:06,888 I think I reported him five, six times. 126 00:06:06,931 --> 00:06:09,325 And then, one day, 127 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:13,155 I went over there to visit my niece, 128 00:06:13,198 --> 00:06:16,288 and they told me she was in the hospital with a broken arm. 129 00:06:16,332 --> 00:06:19,857 Jim said she fell down the stairs. 130 00:06:19,901 --> 00:06:22,469 But when I went to the hospital 131 00:06:22,512 --> 00:06:26,995 and asked Sarah what had happened, she wouldn't tell me. 132 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:30,390 She just looked sad. 133 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:33,218 She wouldn't say anything. 134 00:06:33,262 --> 00:06:37,222 So, the next morning, I went back to the hospital. 135 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:40,400 And I told her we were going on a trip. 136 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:44,621 That was 12 years ago. 137 00:06:44,665 --> 00:06:47,929 Let's talk about the trial. It's not gonna be easy. 138 00:06:47,972 --> 00:06:49,365 There's no denying what you did. 139 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,759 You took a child who wasn't yours. 140 00:06:51,802 --> 00:06:53,935 A child who still had a parent. 141 00:06:53,978 --> 00:06:56,328 And there's no jury 142 00:06:56,372 --> 00:06:58,330 that's gonna have an easy time looking past that, 143 00:06:58,374 --> 00:07:02,291 which is why Sarah-- Chloe-- 144 00:07:02,334 --> 00:07:04,032 is the key to your defense. 145 00:07:04,075 --> 00:07:05,860 The key? 146 00:07:05,903 --> 00:07:09,341 How? She was only three when all this happened. 147 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:11,126 She doesn't remember anything. 148 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:12,606 Of course. 149 00:07:12,649 --> 00:07:16,479 But surely she has an opinion on you as a mother. 150 00:07:16,523 --> 00:07:18,916 How did she react when you told her you'd been arrested? 151 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,007 I told her I'd been called away on a business trip. 152 00:07:23,051 --> 00:07:25,532 I called her friend's parents and asked if she could stay 153 00:07:25,575 --> 00:07:27,664 with them for a day or two. 154 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:30,319 Ms. Smith, Ms. Brown, 155 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:31,668 you need to explain to your niece 156 00:07:31,712 --> 00:07:32,930 what's really going on here. 157 00:07:32,974 --> 00:07:35,367 That is a conversation that has to be had. 158 00:07:35,411 --> 00:07:36,760 BENNY: Dr. Bull is right. 159 00:07:36,804 --> 00:07:40,764 She is the most important witness we have. 160 00:07:40,808 --> 00:07:43,637 Now, we're happy to bring Chloe here, tomorrow. 161 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,900 Give you two a chance to talk. 162 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:48,642 Here? [exhales] 163 00:07:48,685 --> 00:07:52,167 So I can tell her her whole life's been a fiction? 164 00:07:52,210 --> 00:07:54,386 She thinks her father is dead, 165 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:57,259 that he's a war hero, he lost his life in Afghanistan. 166 00:07:57,302 --> 00:07:58,826 Be that as it may, 167 00:07:58,869 --> 00:08:01,002 if that girl doesn't tell the jury what a wonderful mother 168 00:08:01,045 --> 00:08:02,917 you've been, you will be found guilty. 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,789 And the authorities will almost certainly return her 170 00:08:05,833 --> 00:08:08,226 to the man you're convinced hurt her. 171 00:08:09,271 --> 00:08:11,273 [crying] 172 00:08:12,274 --> 00:08:14,798 Tell me you'll call her tonight. 173 00:08:14,842 --> 00:08:17,584 Tell me you'll explain you need to see her. 174 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:21,762 Okay. 175 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:23,590 I'll call her. 176 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:26,157 I'll tell her about the two of you. 177 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:27,985 That you'll be bringing her to me. 178 00:08:28,029 --> 00:08:29,291 [sniffles] 179 00:08:30,335 --> 00:08:33,034 But I won't tell her where. 180 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:35,558 And I won't tell her why. 181 00:08:35,602 --> 00:08:37,821 I-I just can't. 182 00:08:41,564 --> 00:08:43,523 ♪ 183 00:08:51,139 --> 00:08:53,184 BENNY: Here she comes. 184 00:08:53,228 --> 00:08:55,273 [car door opens] 185 00:08:55,317 --> 00:08:58,929 ♪ 186 00:08:58,973 --> 00:09:01,279 [sniffling] 187 00:09:03,630 --> 00:09:05,719 [engine starts] 188 00:09:09,723 --> 00:09:11,725 You all right? 189 00:09:14,336 --> 00:09:16,338 [whispers]: It's a lot. 190 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:20,908 It is. 191 00:09:20,951 --> 00:09:23,171 [sighs] I hate to be the naysayer... 192 00:09:23,214 --> 00:09:24,433 No, you don't.I-I don't know 193 00:09:24,476 --> 00:09:26,174 how we're supposed to prove abuse 194 00:09:26,217 --> 00:09:27,958 that supposedly happened over 12 years ago 195 00:09:28,002 --> 00:09:30,831 in a place that's over a thousand miles away. 196 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:32,441 CHUNK: I don't know. I mean, the kid did 197 00:09:32,484 --> 00:09:33,616 break her arm. 198 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:35,444 Yeah, but it was a spiral fracture, 199 00:09:35,487 --> 00:09:37,098 which is actually pretty common. 200 00:09:37,141 --> 00:09:38,969 It can happen when you yank a toddler's arm 201 00:09:39,013 --> 00:09:40,449 or when you're just horsing around, 202 00:09:40,492 --> 00:09:41,798 which is what the dad told the doctors. 203 00:09:41,842 --> 00:09:45,062 Speaking of the father... 204 00:09:45,106 --> 00:09:47,064 Tell us what you know. 205 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:48,631 His name is Jim Cooper. 206 00:09:48,675 --> 00:09:50,938 Went through kind of a dark period after his wife passed 207 00:09:50,981 --> 00:09:52,635 and his daughter disappeared. 208 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,333 Couldn't hold down a job, got himself into a lot of debt. 209 00:09:55,377 --> 00:09:58,075 Lost his house. Some minor arrests for drunkenness. 210 00:09:58,119 --> 00:09:59,337 Then about eight years ago, 211 00:09:59,381 --> 00:10:00,904 he started to pull his life back together. 212 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,037 Bought a water-softening franchise, 213 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,083 remarried four years ago, has a two-and-a-half-year-old son, 214 00:10:06,127 --> 00:10:08,085 has six employees. 215 00:10:08,129 --> 00:10:11,088 I've dated guys whose bios read worse than this. 216 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:13,090 Here's the thing. Bull keeps saying the literature 217 00:10:13,134 --> 00:10:16,311 is pretty clear about the fact that abuse tends to be cyclical. 218 00:10:16,354 --> 00:10:19,575 I mean, even though this Jim Cooper remarried... 219 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:21,446 You think he's abusing his new wife and kid? 220 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:24,058 Well, I certainly hope not, but he probably had 221 00:10:24,101 --> 00:10:27,017 other relationships before he met his current wife. 222 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:29,411 And if we can establish a pattern of abuse, 223 00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:33,110 it would certainly bolster Elena's credibility. 224 00:10:33,154 --> 00:10:35,896 Looks like I'm on a plane to sunny Florida. 225 00:10:35,939 --> 00:10:38,028 BENNY: Do you know what the problem with this case is? 226 00:10:38,072 --> 00:10:41,815 Our client did exactly what she's being charged with. 227 00:10:41,858 --> 00:10:45,122 I'm starting to think our only choice might be to embrace that. 228 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:47,124 [scoffs] Why would we do that? 229 00:10:47,168 --> 00:10:49,910 To gain credibility with the judge and the jury. 230 00:10:49,953 --> 00:10:52,129 Make a play for a lenient sentence. 231 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:54,697 Our play is to get her acquitted. 232 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:57,221 If we have to ask for a lenient sentence, 233 00:10:57,265 --> 00:11:00,529 it means we've lost, and our client didn't hire us to lose. 234 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,749 Yeah, but, Bull, there is no defense for this crime. 235 00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:05,055 It's not like we can claim that it was an accident 236 00:11:05,099 --> 00:11:06,970 or self-defense or even insanity. 237 00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:08,102 I mean, she's guilty. 238 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:09,886 She did it. 239 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:11,932 She kidnapped her niece. 240 00:11:11,975 --> 00:11:13,803 Well, that's where jury nullification comes in. 241 00:11:13,847 --> 00:11:15,892 We've got to convince this jury that the kidnapping law 242 00:11:15,936 --> 00:11:17,981 shouldn't apply to Elena's situation. 243 00:11:18,025 --> 00:11:21,506 She wasn't kidnapping her niece; she was rescuing her. 244 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:23,508 Let the prosecution call it a kidnapping. 245 00:11:23,552 --> 00:11:25,510 We're gonna call it a rescue. 246 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:27,904 BULL: I need to warn you-- the first witness 247 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:29,906 to take the stand today 248 00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:33,127 is going to be your former brother-in-law. 249 00:11:33,170 --> 00:11:34,694 Whatever you may think about him, 250 00:11:34,737 --> 00:11:37,914 we need you to understand the jury will almost certainly 251 00:11:37,958 --> 00:11:39,089 empathize with him. 252 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:40,525 All they're gonna see 253 00:11:40,569 --> 00:11:43,615 is a young widower who lost his only child. 254 00:11:43,659 --> 00:11:46,314 Wow. The bastard sobered up long enough 255 00:11:46,357 --> 00:11:50,057 to fly three hours up the coast so he could lie under oath? 256 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:53,060 According to the prosecutor, he's been sober for years. 257 00:11:53,103 --> 00:11:55,018 He's also remarried, owns his own business, 258 00:11:55,062 --> 00:11:56,933 has a two-year-old son, 259 00:11:56,977 --> 00:11:58,935 and very much wants his daughter back. 260 00:11:58,979 --> 00:12:01,111 Angela, 261 00:12:01,155 --> 00:12:03,287 the reason we're telling you this... 262 00:12:03,331 --> 00:12:05,159 [sighs heavily] 263 00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:08,945 We need you to be careful not to react when he testifies. 264 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:12,383 The jury is watching you, they're studying you. 265 00:12:12,427 --> 00:12:15,430 If they see anger, if they see contempt, 266 00:12:15,473 --> 00:12:18,738 they're gonna presume that you took this man's child 267 00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:20,740 out of spite. 268 00:12:20,783 --> 00:12:22,567 KNIGHT: So... 269 00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:24,961 you got to the hospital, 270 00:12:25,005 --> 00:12:26,223 walked into your daughter's room, 271 00:12:26,267 --> 00:12:28,051 and she just wasn't there? 272 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:30,314 Exactly. And no one... no one knew where she was. 273 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:32,577 So, of course, I went to the police. 274 00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:34,579 KNIGHT: And how long before you figured out 275 00:12:34,623 --> 00:12:36,364 that it was probably your sister-in-law 276 00:12:36,407 --> 00:12:37,974 who had taken her? 277 00:12:38,018 --> 00:12:41,151 Maybe a day. There was hospital video. 278 00:12:41,195 --> 00:12:42,326 Uh... 279 00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:44,894 but the thing is, no one realized 280 00:12:44,938 --> 00:12:48,071 that she had taken her for good, 281 00:12:48,115 --> 00:12:49,507 that she'd left the state. 282 00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:52,206 I kept thinking that she had taken her to the movies 283 00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:55,513 or to some theme park to... 284 00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:57,559 take her mind off of her mother. 285 00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:58,778 Mr. Cooper. 286 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:02,912 Did you ever hit your first wife? 287 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:04,479 Never. 288 00:13:04,522 --> 00:13:06,873 KNIGHT: Did you ever strike your daughter Sarah? 289 00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:08,352 JIM: Never. 290 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:10,006 KNIGHT: Mr. Cooper, 291 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,009 if the defendant is found guilty, 292 00:13:13,053 --> 00:13:15,011 are you prepared 293 00:13:15,055 --> 00:13:18,014 to welcome your daughter back into your home? 294 00:13:18,058 --> 00:13:20,060 JIM: Prepared? I have been waiting 295 00:13:20,103 --> 00:13:21,583 12 years for this. 296 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:24,412 I would do anything to have my child back. Yes. 297 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:26,022 [gallery murmuring] 298 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,155 KNIGHT: No further questions, Your Honor. 299 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:31,114 Mr. Colón. 300 00:13:31,158 --> 00:13:32,333 Yes, Your Honor. 301 00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:34,204 Thank you, Your Honor. 302 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:36,903 [exhales quietly] 303 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:40,123 Mr. Cooper... 304 00:13:40,167 --> 00:13:43,300 we really appreciate you coming all this way to... 305 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:45,520 share your recollections. 306 00:13:45,563 --> 00:13:48,044 Recollections? I-I-I'm talking about... 307 00:13:48,088 --> 00:13:49,437 my family. 308 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,440 I'm talking about my blood, my-my child. 309 00:13:52,483 --> 00:13:54,746 Yes, yes, of course, of course, but... 310 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:57,532 [sighs] 12 years is a long time. 311 00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,708 A lot has changed. 312 00:13:59,751 --> 00:14:01,188 Right? 313 00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:04,321 You're remarried, you have a two-year-old at home... 314 00:14:04,365 --> 00:14:07,847 I never stopped looking. I... I never gave up. 315 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:09,065 BENNY: If you say so, sir. 316 00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:11,285 Now... 317 00:14:11,328 --> 00:14:14,941 you were unemployed at the time your daughter disappeared, 318 00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:18,466 weren't you?Yes, I-I had a tough time after my wife died. 319 00:14:18,509 --> 00:14:20,555 Completely understandable. 320 00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:22,905 Although, our records indicate 321 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:24,907 that you were having a tough time 322 00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:27,257 even before your wife passed away, 323 00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:29,216 pretty much beginning with the birth 324 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:31,087 of your first child, Sarah. 325 00:14:31,131 --> 00:14:32,436 Objection, Your Honor. 326 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,439 Is counsel asking a question or testifying? 327 00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:38,268 Ask a question, Mr. Colón. 328 00:14:38,312 --> 00:14:41,315 Absolutely, Your Honor. My apologies, Your Honor. 329 00:14:41,358 --> 00:14:43,012 [clears throat]: Uh... 330 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:47,190 approximately how many jobs would you say you held 331 00:14:47,234 --> 00:14:49,976 during the three-year period 332 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:51,978 starting from the birth of your first child 333 00:14:52,021 --> 00:14:53,980 to the date that she disappeared? 334 00:14:54,023 --> 00:14:56,504 I don't know, I was still a young man, 335 00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:58,898 still trying to... find myself. 336 00:14:58,941 --> 00:14:59,942 Yeah, I get it. 337 00:14:59,986 --> 00:15:01,683 I'm just looking for a number, sir. 338 00:15:01,726 --> 00:15:03,467 Three, maybe. 339 00:15:03,511 --> 00:15:04,599 Three. 340 00:15:04,642 --> 00:15:06,209 Three jobs in three years. 341 00:15:06,253 --> 00:15:08,037 That's what you're testifying to? 342 00:15:08,081 --> 00:15:09,256 Could be four. 343 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:10,431 Objection, Your Honor. Relevance? 344 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:12,259 Your Honor, the defense 345 00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:14,914 is just trying to illustrate to the jury 346 00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:19,179 that my client has never denied that she did what she did; 347 00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,442 the issue in this trial is why she did it. 348 00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:23,487 And that's all we are attempting 349 00:15:23,531 --> 00:15:25,620 to illuminate, Your Honor. 350 00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:28,188 Objection overruled. 351 00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:30,364 You may proceed. 352 00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:33,019 Yeah. Now, I'll ask just one more time. 353 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:36,370 How many jobs did you hold during the three-year period 354 00:15:36,413 --> 00:15:39,242 after your daughter's birth? 355 00:15:39,286 --> 00:15:41,114 Five. 356 00:15:41,157 --> 00:15:43,420 Five. Really? 357 00:15:43,464 --> 00:15:45,118 Huh. 358 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:47,076 Our records show 11, sir. 359 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,208 [gallery murmuring] 360 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:52,212 Do you care to venture 361 00:15:52,255 --> 00:15:55,302 as to how many alcohol-related arrests during that period? 362 00:15:55,345 --> 00:15:58,740 I imagine you have that number as well.Oh, I do, 363 00:15:58,783 --> 00:16:02,439 I do, and it's almost as high as the number of jobs lost. 364 00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:06,443 Again, beginning with the birth of your first child, 365 00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:08,880 you were also on periods of federal assistance, 366 00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:10,317 were you not? 367 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,622 Yes. 368 00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,016 I was on assistance, but I'm not any longer. 369 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:15,409 I haven't been for years. 370 00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:17,367 In fact, you remained on assistance 371 00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:20,414 for almost 18 months after your daughter's disappearance, right? 372 00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:21,632 Yeah. So?And isn't it also true 373 00:16:21,676 --> 00:16:23,417 that you never mentioned 374 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:26,420 to your caseworker that your daughter was gone, 375 00:16:26,463 --> 00:16:28,291 so that you can continue to receive 376 00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,380 that extra assistance the government pays 377 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,513 to families with minor children? 378 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:34,471 [gallery murmuring] 379 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,561 How's the view? 380 00:16:37,605 --> 00:16:39,389 MARISSA: Nobody is switching sides yet, 381 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,044 but I can see we definitely have 382 00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:44,003 their attention.BENNY: I'm sorry, 383 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:45,439 I-I didn't hear what you said. 384 00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:47,049 Like I said, it was a difficult time. 385 00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:48,311 Ah. 386 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,836 I made some mistakes. 387 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,362 I didn't attend to certain things that needed attending to. 388 00:16:55,405 --> 00:16:56,580 I won't deny that. 389 00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:58,234 But I was a little busy 390 00:16:58,278 --> 00:17:01,629 putting up posters on telephone polls... 391 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:04,240 spending my days looking for my child. 392 00:17:04,284 --> 00:17:06,460 BENNY: Be that as it may, 393 00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:09,463 you accepted federal funds under false pretense, 394 00:17:09,506 --> 00:17:10,899 didn't you?Objection. 395 00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:13,075 Asked and answered. 396 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Objection sustained. 397 00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:16,383 Ask another question. 398 00:17:16,426 --> 00:17:19,168 Actually, I have no further questions, Your Honor. 399 00:17:19,212 --> 00:17:20,822 [gallery murmuring] 400 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:40,494 I'm worried. I haven't heard from Chloe since yesterday. 401 00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:42,496 That's funny, she missed her appointment 402 00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:45,368 with Chunk this morning to go over her testimony. 403 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:47,675 BAILIFF: All rise for the Honorable Judge Hopkins. 404 00:17:52,201 --> 00:17:53,985 KNIGHT: Ms. Lawson, 405 00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:57,032 thank you for making the trip up from Florida. 406 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,295 Now, in 2008, 407 00:17:59,339 --> 00:18:01,384 you were the Florida Child Services investigator 408 00:18:01,428 --> 00:18:03,647 assigned to Sarah Cooper's case. 409 00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,388 Isn't that correct?Yes. 410 00:18:05,432 --> 00:18:08,304 And apparently, you were called to the home 411 00:18:08,348 --> 00:18:10,132 a number of times. 412 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:11,655 I was. 413 00:18:11,699 --> 00:18:13,004 Her aunt... 414 00:18:13,048 --> 00:18:14,571 [sighs] the defendant... 415 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:16,878 seemed convinced that there was 416 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:18,793 some sort of abuse going on in the household. 417 00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,795 So you investigated? 418 00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:21,839 I did. 419 00:18:21,883 --> 00:18:23,493 And what did you discover? 420 00:18:23,537 --> 00:18:27,193 I found some minor issues with hygiene. 421 00:18:27,236 --> 00:18:28,933 How do you mean?The kitchen sink 422 00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:30,500 had dirty dishes in it. 423 00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:33,112 Sarah's clothes hadn't been washed in a while. 424 00:18:33,155 --> 00:18:34,896 Pretty standard stuff. 425 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:37,159 And frankly, to be expected in a household 426 00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,944 where the mother had just passed.And wasn't there also 427 00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:43,948 some concern about a bruise or bruises on her arms and legs? 428 00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:47,169 Again, concerns from the defendant. 429 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:48,649 But when I saw the child, 430 00:18:48,692 --> 00:18:51,739 it was hard to determine exactly what we were looking at. 431 00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:54,829 Now, the law requires us to open an investigation 432 00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:57,875 24 hours after someone files a concern, 433 00:18:57,919 --> 00:18:59,573 and we did that. 434 00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:02,924 But it did take us a couple of days to get out there. 435 00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:05,622 And do you think that might have accounted for your inability 436 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:09,626 to recognize these bruises or marks as evidence of abuse? 437 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,411 Honestly, no. 438 00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:13,543 Generally speaking, in child welfare cases, 439 00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:16,242 you're almost always talking about injuries 440 00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:19,027 that are profound enough to still be in evidence 441 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:21,682 72, even 96 hours later. 442 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,727 So you saw nothing that gave you cause 443 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:25,642 to consider removing the child 444 00:19:25,686 --> 00:19:27,209 from the home?Oh, gosh, no. 445 00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,950 That is always a last resort. 446 00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:32,693 My feeling was that it would be best to continue 447 00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:35,565 to monitor the case, check back with the family bimonthly, 448 00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:37,263 so that's what we did. 449 00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:39,308 And when the child was brought to the hospital 450 00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:40,527 with a broken arm? 451 00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:42,442 We got there as quickly as we could. 452 00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:45,053 But unfortunately, when we arrived, 453 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:48,665 the hospital had just discovered that she was missing. 454 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:50,493 [gallery murmuring] 455 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:55,498 No further questions, Your Honor. 456 00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:58,371 MARISSA: I'm sure I don't need 457 00:19:58,414 --> 00:19:59,894 to tell you we didn't win any friends 458 00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:01,896 with that testimony.BULL: Hey. 459 00:20:01,939 --> 00:20:04,899 The inning's not over until both sides have been up to bat. 460 00:20:04,942 --> 00:20:06,683 BENNY: Ms. Lawson, 461 00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:09,599 you have a... 462 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:11,862 really difficult job, don't you? 463 00:20:11,906 --> 00:20:14,343 It's not the easiest. 464 00:20:14,387 --> 00:20:16,693 In fact, even over a decade ago, 465 00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:19,392 while you were in the midst of the Sarah Cooper case, 466 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:23,134 you were carrying double the recommended number of cases, 467 00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:24,179 isn't that right? 468 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,702 Goes with the territory. 469 00:20:25,746 --> 00:20:27,138 At least in Florida. 470 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:28,618 Now, Ms. Lawson, 471 00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:31,447 after Mrs. Cooper passed away 472 00:20:31,491 --> 00:20:34,494 and during the time Sarah was living with her father, 473 00:20:34,537 --> 00:20:36,539 were you aware of any children 474 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:41,501 in the state of Florida that died as a result of abuse 475 00:20:41,544 --> 00:20:44,025 while being actively monitored by your agency? 476 00:20:45,069 --> 00:20:47,594 Sadly, I'm sure some did. 477 00:20:47,637 --> 00:20:49,900 I couldn't give you a number. 478 00:20:49,944 --> 00:20:51,685 We are talking about 12 years ago. 479 00:20:51,728 --> 00:20:53,121 Indeed. 480 00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:56,516 Would it surprise you to learn that 12 years ago, 481 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,780 that number was actually 79? 482 00:20:59,823 --> 00:21:01,608 [gallery murmuring] 483 00:21:02,652 --> 00:21:05,655 79 children died 484 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:09,485 as a result of abuse while being actively monitored 485 00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:12,445 by Florida Child Service investigators. 486 00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:14,316 Now, 487 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,752 how long do you think the defendant 488 00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:17,101 should have waited? 489 00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:19,016 Objection. Calls for speculation. 490 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,323 How long should the defendant have waited 491 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:24,674 before her sister's child was number 80? 492 00:21:24,718 --> 00:21:26,328 [gallery murmuring] 493 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:28,156 [gavel banging] 494 00:21:28,199 --> 00:21:29,723 HOPKINS: Mr. Colón. 495 00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,333 You are out of order. 496 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:32,552 Now the jury will ignore 497 00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:34,031 that last question. 498 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:35,729 I apologize, Your Honor. 499 00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:37,731 Actually, I have no further questions 500 00:21:37,774 --> 00:21:39,428 at this time. 501 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:40,647 Does the prosecution have 502 00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:42,649 any further questions for this witness? 503 00:21:42,692 --> 00:21:44,564 Not at this time, Your Honor. 504 00:21:44,607 --> 00:21:46,043 Then the witness is excused. 505 00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,570 Please call your next witness. 506 00:21:52,702 --> 00:21:55,662 The prosecution would like to call Sarah Cooper to the stand. 507 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,881 [gallery murmuring] 508 00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:20,469 What was it like to find out 509 00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:22,645 your name wasn't your name, 510 00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:24,821 your mother wasn't your mother? 511 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:26,867 It's hard to describe. 512 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:29,435 KNIGHT: Were you surprised to learn that your biological father 513 00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:31,872 was alive, after being told 514 00:22:31,915 --> 00:22:33,613 for so many years that he had died 515 00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,876 in Afghanistan? 516 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:37,007 Of course. 517 00:22:37,051 --> 00:22:38,226 And what were you thinking, 518 00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:41,708 when you sat here in this courtroom 519 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:44,319 two days ago and watched him, 520 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,668 very much alive, 521 00:22:45,712 --> 00:22:48,236 testify about how much he loved you and missed you? 522 00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:53,589 Just that I wanted to talk to him. 523 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:55,243 Get to know him a little bit. 524 00:22:56,287 --> 00:22:57,854 KNIGHT: Now, 525 00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:01,467 let's talk about your aunt. 526 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:04,513 After years of telling you that she was your mother, 527 00:23:04,557 --> 00:23:07,081 that your father had died overseas, 528 00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:09,170 what did she tell you about your father 529 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:12,391 once she admitted that he was, in fact, alive? 530 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:13,740 What did she offer as an excuse 531 00:23:13,783 --> 00:23:16,830 for taking you from him? 532 00:23:16,873 --> 00:23:19,615 For keeping you from him? 533 00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:22,313 She said that he hurt my real mother. 534 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,318 She said that he hurt me. 535 00:23:27,362 --> 00:23:28,972 He broke my arm. 536 00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:30,234 Did you believe her? 537 00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,628 Objection. Calls for speculation. 538 00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:34,848 The attorney is badgering the witness. 539 00:23:34,891 --> 00:23:37,111 And I question the relevance 540 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,591 of this whole line of questioning. 541 00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:40,506 KNIGHT: I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 542 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:42,551 But if I may just ask one more thing. 543 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:44,901 Sarah, 544 00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:46,903 are you open to the possibility 545 00:23:46,947 --> 00:23:48,818 of a relationship with your father 546 00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:50,559 now that you know that he is alive? 547 00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:54,781 I guess so. 548 00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:56,783 He seems nice. 549 00:23:56,826 --> 00:23:58,437 And I'd... 550 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,048 kinda like to know what it's like to have a father. 551 00:24:01,091 --> 00:24:02,745 [gallery murmuring] 552 00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:04,747 KNIGHT: No further questions, 553 00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:06,836 Your Honor. 554 00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:10,927 Chloe... 555 00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:13,452 Is it okay if I call you Chloe? 556 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:15,932 Would you rather I address you as Sarah? 557 00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:17,760 Chloe's okay. 558 00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:19,849 I'm kinda used to Chloe. 559 00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:21,285 Chloe it is. 560 00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:24,680 Now, why do you think 561 00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:27,683 your mother made you believe your father was a war hero? 562 00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:28,902 I don't know. 563 00:24:28,945 --> 00:24:30,512 I guess so I'd respect him, 564 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,209 feel good about him. 565 00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:33,689 And did she ever... 566 00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:35,778 say anything negative about him 567 00:24:35,822 --> 00:24:38,955 prior to the police charging her with kidnapping? 568 00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:40,957 No. Never. 569 00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,785 Actually, she always talked about him 570 00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:44,831 like he was pretty amazing. 571 00:24:44,874 --> 00:24:47,660 And would you say you've been well-cared-for 572 00:24:47,703 --> 00:24:50,271 these past 12 years? 573 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:52,926 Well-clothed? Well-fed? 574 00:24:52,969 --> 00:24:54,754 Did you feel loved? 575 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:56,146 I did. Yes. 576 00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:59,672 And didn't your mother put you in private school? 577 00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:02,762 Encourage you to learn the violin? 578 00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:04,851 Teach you Spanish and French? 579 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:06,287 You mean my aunt? 580 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:08,028 Yes, 581 00:25:08,071 --> 00:25:09,943 she's been a wonderful parent to me. 582 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:12,467 And you're old enough to understand that... 583 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,600 [inhales] private school, 584 00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:16,689 tutors, music lessons-- 585 00:25:16,732 --> 00:25:18,865 all of that costs money. 586 00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,302 And who was it that was paying for it? 587 00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:22,869 My aunt. 588 00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:24,435 And, lastly, 589 00:25:24,479 --> 00:25:28,701 have you ever known your aunt to be violent or aggressive? 590 00:25:28,744 --> 00:25:29,702 No. 591 00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:31,225 Did she ever hit you? 592 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:32,574 No. 593 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:33,967 She ever curse at you?No. 594 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:35,882 Raise her voice? 595 00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,405 Once or twice. 596 00:25:37,448 --> 00:25:39,146 But I probably deserved it. 597 00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:42,584 Do you think she loves you? 598 00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:44,673 Uh, yes. 599 00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:46,936 [voice breaking]: I know she does. 600 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,895 BENNY: Thank you. 601 00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:50,897 No further questions, Your Honor. 602 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,076 Give me a burp.[cooing] 603 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,078 I can't put you down till I get a burp. 604 00:25:58,121 --> 00:26:00,907 [passes gas, coos] 605 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:03,083 Hey. 606 00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,172 That was the wrong end. 607 00:26:05,215 --> 00:26:06,347 [cooing] 608 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:07,914 Come on. 609 00:26:07,957 --> 00:26:08,871 I need a burp. 610 00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,394 Here we go. 611 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:13,136 That's a girl. 612 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:15,312 Give me a burp. 613 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:17,358 I...[phone vibrating] 614 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,017 [quietly]: Hello, Marissa. 615 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,062 Am I catching you at a bad time? 616 00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:28,891 No, I'm just trying to wrap up the 10:00 p.m. feeding here 617 00:26:28,935 --> 00:26:30,414 in Astrid-land. 618 00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:31,807 Intake went well. 619 00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:33,896 We're just working on some outbound action. 620 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:34,897 What's up? 621 00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:36,812 Danny just called from Florida. 622 00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,814 She's found two people that seem to corroborate 623 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,511 Elena's story about Jim. 624 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,296 One is a teacher 625 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:44,472 at a preschool that Jim's two-year-old attended. 626 00:26:44,515 --> 00:26:47,867 That is until she asked questions about bruises 627 00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,913 the little boy started showing up to school with.Shh... 628 00:26:50,957 --> 00:26:52,045 And she also found 629 00:26:52,088 --> 00:26:54,525 a dermatologist his new wife was seeing. 630 00:26:54,569 --> 00:26:56,702 Apparently, she has something to say as well. 631 00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,966 Both are willing to fly up to testify. 632 00:27:00,009 --> 00:27:01,576 Well, why don't you e-mail me 633 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:02,969 all the pertinent details, 634 00:27:03,012 --> 00:27:04,579 and Benny and I will add 'em to the witness list 635 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:05,972 tomorrow morning. 636 00:27:06,015 --> 00:27:08,801 Did Danny find the wife yet? 637 00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,150 She thinks she might be away on business, 638 00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:11,804 but she's still looking.Okay. 639 00:27:11,847 --> 00:27:14,502 Ooh, I felt that. 640 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,722 I got to go. 641 00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,724 KNIGHT: Your Honor, these new witnesses 642 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:19,899 aren't witnesses. 643 00:27:19,942 --> 00:27:20,900 BENNY: Excuse me, 644 00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:22,902 but the prosecution has rested. 645 00:27:22,945 --> 00:27:25,165 It is now time for the defense 646 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:27,254 to present ourdefense, 647 00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:29,473 which is what we're trying to do right now, Your Honor. 648 00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:32,389 Your Honor, not only have we had no time to prepare... 649 00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:34,000 Oh, take all the time you need. 650 00:27:34,043 --> 00:27:35,001 Your Honor... 651 00:27:35,044 --> 00:27:36,089 [sighs] 652 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,830 The charges before the court 653 00:27:37,873 --> 00:27:39,962 are extremely serious...Which is why 654 00:27:40,006 --> 00:27:43,139 these witnesses are so important, Your Honor. 655 00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:47,056 They directly contradict Jim Cooper's testimony. 656 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,362 He said under oath 657 00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:50,973 that he has never physically abused anyone. 658 00:27:51,017 --> 00:27:52,845 Well, we have records 659 00:27:52,888 --> 00:27:54,847 from Jim Cooper's two-year-old son's 660 00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:57,197 former preschool teacher, 661 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,547 who noticed fresh bruises on the boy. 662 00:27:59,590 --> 00:28:02,115 And when she confronted him about the bruises, 663 00:28:02,158 --> 00:28:05,031 the teacher said that he abruptly pulled the kid 664 00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:06,075 from the school. 665 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,076 In other words, 666 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,948 she witnessed nothing. 667 00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:10,123 And, secondly, 668 00:28:10,166 --> 00:28:13,300 the current Mrs. Cooper's dermatologist 669 00:28:13,343 --> 00:28:16,651 treated her for a burn on her forearm, 670 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,871 which she suspected was from a cigarette, 671 00:28:18,914 --> 00:28:20,699 less than four weeks ago. 672 00:28:20,742 --> 00:28:22,178 Again, this is circumstantial evidence 673 00:28:22,222 --> 00:28:24,746 and is irrelevant to the kidnapping charges. 674 00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:26,313 [Hopkins clears throat] 675 00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:31,100 AUSA Knight makes a valid point. 676 00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:32,536 The real question 677 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:35,452 is did the witnesses actually see 678 00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,759 Mr. Cooper inflict these injuries. 679 00:28:37,803 --> 00:28:39,326 Judge Hopkins, we all know it's unlikely 680 00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:41,894 that Mr. Cooper would beat his two-year-old son 681 00:28:41,937 --> 00:28:43,330 in front of a crowd of onlookers 682 00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:44,897 or burn his wife in public. 683 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,812 BENNY: Your Honor, 684 00:28:46,855 --> 00:28:49,510 the jury should be allowed to hear the testimony, 685 00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,991 review the documents, draw their own inferences. 686 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:53,906 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm-I'm sorry. 687 00:28:53,949 --> 00:28:55,124 I don't agree. 688 00:28:55,168 --> 00:28:57,039 Mr. Cooper is not 689 00:28:57,083 --> 00:28:58,214 on trial here. 690 00:28:58,258 --> 00:28:59,999 And the probative value 691 00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:03,916 of what sounds like speculation and-and hearsay 692 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:07,049 is outweighed by the prejudicial effect it's certain to have. 693 00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:08,442 And none of it is relevant 694 00:29:08,485 --> 00:29:11,619 as to whether or not your client kidnapped his child, 695 00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:15,144 which is the only issue the jury is here to resolve. 696 00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:18,017 Now, I have to agree with prosecution. 697 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,019 Unless these people 698 00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:22,717 actually witnessed Mr. Cooper hurt someone, 699 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:25,546 their testimony is irrelevant. 700 00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:27,809 Do you have any other witnesses you want to present? 701 00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:29,115 With Your Honor's permission, 702 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,857 we would like to ask for a one-day continuance. 703 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,730 I'd love to confer with my client on next steps. 704 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,385 It's like I told you. 705 00:29:38,428 --> 00:29:40,909 Bottom line is she did it. 706 00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,520 She took this man's child. 707 00:29:43,564 --> 00:29:45,305 Kind of impossible 708 00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:48,003 to mount a defense against something that's indisputable. 709 00:29:55,054 --> 00:29:56,098 I just heard. 710 00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:57,796 No court today. 711 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,450 They want me to change, take me back to prison. 712 00:30:00,494 --> 00:30:02,539 Is everything all right? 713 00:30:03,584 --> 00:30:04,977 We need to talk. 714 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:06,805 We can 715 00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:07,936 press forward. 716 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:09,677 Mr. Colón could put you on the stand. 717 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,158 You're really the only witness we have. 718 00:30:12,201 --> 00:30:13,812 Unfortunately, 719 00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:16,075 you're not the witness we need. 720 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,512 What do you mean? 721 00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:19,818 We need someone 722 00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:21,471 who can tell the jury under oath 723 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:25,171 that they've actually seen Mr. Cooper be physically abusive. 724 00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:28,000 Preferably multiple times. 725 00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:29,262 It's the only thing 726 00:30:29,305 --> 00:30:32,178 that's gonna make the jury second-guess 727 00:30:32,221 --> 00:30:33,788 the A.D.A.'s assertion 728 00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,616 that you're nothing more than a kidnapper. 729 00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,879 With your permission, what I'd like to do 730 00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,969 is go to the A.D.A. and see if we can't broker 731 00:30:41,013 --> 00:30:42,231 some kind of a deal. 732 00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:44,103 She's not a stupid person. 733 00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,540 She knows that this hearsay 734 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:48,934 and circumstantial evidence may not hold up in court, 735 00:30:48,977 --> 00:30:52,241 but I'm willing to bet she knows there's a whiff of truth to it. 736 00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:54,417 Maybe we can use that 737 00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:57,594 to wrestle some favorable terms from her. 738 00:30:57,638 --> 00:31:00,336 Would I still have to go to prison? 739 00:31:01,381 --> 00:31:03,949 Yes. 740 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,734 I'm hoping we can keep it to less than five years, 741 00:31:06,777 --> 00:31:09,215 as opposed to the ten to 20 you're looking at now. 742 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,522 Oh, my God. 743 00:31:15,090 --> 00:31:17,092 What about Chloe? 744 00:31:18,137 --> 00:31:19,138 She'd be 745 00:31:19,181 --> 00:31:20,704 returned back to her father. 746 00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:22,750 [sobs] 747 00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:25,927 She's 15. 748 00:31:25,971 --> 00:31:27,189 If he starts abusing her, 749 00:31:27,233 --> 00:31:29,191 it will not stay secret long. 750 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:30,714 And for what it's worth, 751 00:31:30,758 --> 00:31:33,892 your ex-brother-in-law is on notice. 752 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,241 He knows 753 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,243 we're all watching. 754 00:31:37,286 --> 00:31:40,202 And would I ever get to see her again? 755 00:31:41,203 --> 00:31:43,727 Do I get to see Chloe? 756 00:31:43,771 --> 00:31:45,338 [takes deep breath] 757 00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:48,689 You'd be a convicted kidnapper, so... 758 00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,256 no, I don't think 759 00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,127 that's at all likely. 760 00:31:52,171 --> 00:31:53,520 [sobbing] 761 00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,709 [seabirds squawking][knocking] 762 00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:11,103 Mrs. Cooper? 763 00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:13,409 My name is Danny James. I'm an investigator 764 00:32:13,453 --> 00:32:16,021 working on a court case involving your husband 765 00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:18,937 and his daughter from a previous marriage. 766 00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,374 I'm... kind of on vacation with my son. 767 00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,898 I don't really want to get involved. 768 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,944 I promise, it'll be two minutes. 769 00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:30,731 Mrs. Cooper, don't make me get a subpoena. 770 00:32:31,732 --> 00:32:33,734 [door unlocking] 771 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:40,871 Can we make this fast? 772 00:32:40,915 --> 00:32:44,832 I-I promised my little boy I would take him to a water park. 773 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,442 Sure. And I'm sorry. 774 00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,445 Uh, look, we have reason to believe that your husband 775 00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:51,839 may have been physically abusive to your little boy. 776 00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:54,233 And to you. 777 00:32:54,276 --> 00:32:55,799 [chuckles]: Seriously? 778 00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:58,019 That's what you want to talk to me about? 779 00:32:58,063 --> 00:33:00,021 Where did you hear that? 780 00:33:00,065 --> 00:33:01,980 That's crazy. 781 00:33:02,763 --> 00:33:04,330 Are you married? 782 00:33:04,373 --> 00:33:05,853 You ever been married? 783 00:33:05,896 --> 00:33:08,116 No.Well, I've only been at it 784 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,858 for a few years, but let me tell you two things 785 00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:12,599 I know for sure. 786 00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:15,123 One, marriage, 787 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,040 like any deal, is filled with lots of good 788 00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:21,129 and also some bad. 789 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:22,957 My boy. 790 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,350 I love my boy. 791 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:26,569 And that's one of the goods, one of the greats. 792 00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:29,050 And I don't worry much about... 793 00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:32,488 bills anymore, and you can't hate that, so... 794 00:33:32,532 --> 00:33:34,186 if my husband comes home sometimes 795 00:33:34,229 --> 00:33:37,232 and he's not in a stellar mood, then...I'm not just talking 796 00:33:37,276 --> 00:33:39,843 about someone in a bad mood, Mrs. Cooper.And the other thing-- 797 00:33:39,887 --> 00:33:42,063 and you ought to know this-- 798 00:33:42,107 --> 00:33:45,545 uh, you can't force me to testify against my own husband. 799 00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:48,026 You can't. 800 00:33:49,288 --> 00:33:52,247 Plus, I don't have anything to testify to. 801 00:33:52,291 --> 00:33:54,945 So are we done here? 802 00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:57,992 I can help you. I can help both of you. 803 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:00,429 By how? 804 00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,997 By-by destroying my family? 805 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,347 And anyway, like I said... 806 00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:08,872 isn't what happens between a husband and a wife private? 807 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:12,354 Conversations between spouses are privileged, but... 808 00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:15,792 not when there are allegations of abuse. 809 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,577 Okay, I think you need to go now. 810 00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:19,405 You wouldn't have to look at him in court. 811 00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:22,016 We could have him sequestered. 812 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:24,453 And after the trial, my boss and I, we would help you 813 00:34:24,497 --> 00:34:26,890 and your little son back on your feet. 814 00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:28,849 And in a safe place, I promise. 815 00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:30,981 That is... [takes deep breath] 816 00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:33,071 if you're willing to testify. 817 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,421 That is... 818 00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:37,292 if you're willing to admit 819 00:34:37,336 --> 00:34:40,252 you actually have something to testify to. 820 00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:43,864 NOAH: Mommy? 821 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:45,822 Oh. 822 00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,520 Noah. 823 00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:51,045 Say hello to the nice lady. 824 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:00,968 [sighs] 825 00:35:04,276 --> 00:35:06,539 Let me call my mother. 826 00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:09,063 See if she can take my baby. 827 00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:12,806 BENNY: Mrs. Cooper, 828 00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:16,157 I know it's uncomfortable you being here. 829 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:19,856 We've sequestered your husband as per your request, 830 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,120 and, speaking for the defense, 831 00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,122 we really appreciate you making the trip. 832 00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,776 It's okay.Now, 833 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:30,911 when your husband told you he needed to come to New York 834 00:35:30,954 --> 00:35:32,565 for a court date, 835 00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:35,002 did he explain the nature of the trial? 836 00:35:35,045 --> 00:35:37,178 Uh, no, not really. 837 00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:40,181 He said it was a business thing. 838 00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:43,053 So you and your two-year-old son 839 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:45,447 just decided to take a little road trip? 840 00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:47,275 Yes. 841 00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:49,886 I just... 842 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:53,020 with Jim away... 843 00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,196 I just needed to do some thinking. 844 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,415 Well... 845 00:35:56,458 --> 00:36:00,114 I'm sorry to have interrupted your trip. 846 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:02,377 So let me get right into it. 847 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,380 [whispers]: Here goes nothing. 848 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,469 BENNY: Mrs. Cooper, 849 00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:10,124 have you ever been afraid of your husband? 850 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,474 Yes. 851 00:36:12,518 --> 00:36:15,956 And can you please explain to the jury why? 852 00:36:15,999 --> 00:36:18,524 Uh, he yells at me sometimes. 853 00:36:19,394 --> 00:36:21,483 Like when our two-year-old cries. 854 00:36:21,527 --> 00:36:25,792 And he'll, uh, slam doors... 855 00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:29,099 break things when something upsets him. 856 00:36:29,143 --> 00:36:30,710 And in the past, 857 00:36:30,753 --> 00:36:33,582 when something upset him, has he ever gotten physical 858 00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:35,280 with you or Noah? 859 00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:39,806 This was from a week ago. 860 00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:42,330 [gallery murmuring] 861 00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:48,249 BENNY: Let the record reflect 862 00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:50,469 that the witness is talking 863 00:36:50,512 --> 00:36:54,516 about the bruising and swelling on the right side of her face. 864 00:36:56,170 --> 00:36:59,695 And can you please explain the events surrounding the injury? 865 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,743 I told Jim I wanted to go back to school, 866 00:37:03,786 --> 00:37:07,225 and he started screaming about who would care for Noah. 867 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:09,270 And then what happened? 868 00:37:09,314 --> 00:37:12,752 I-I told him... that we would figure it out. 869 00:37:12,795 --> 00:37:15,058 A lot of people figure it out. 870 00:37:15,102 --> 00:37:17,147 And how did he respond?He... 871 00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:20,020 balled up his fist and... 872 00:37:22,457 --> 00:37:24,024 I lost two teeth. 873 00:37:24,067 --> 00:37:26,026 [gallery murmuring] 874 00:37:29,421 --> 00:37:32,685 BENNY: Now, let's talk about your two-year-old son. 875 00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:36,210 He has his arm in a sling, doesn't he? 876 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,038 He does. 877 00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:39,039 And... 878 00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:40,736 do you know what happened to him? 879 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:43,304 Yes, and no. 880 00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:46,089 I had to work on a Saturday, 881 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,614 and Jim stayed home with him. 882 00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:50,703 He wasn't happy about it. 883 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:54,228 And when I got home eight hours later, 884 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,839 they had already been to the emergency room and back. 885 00:37:58,145 --> 00:38:01,844 Apparently, Noah's arm got pulled out of its socket. 886 00:38:01,888 --> 00:38:03,150 [gallery murmuring] 887 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,328 Jim said they were just horsing around. 888 00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:13,639 What did Noah say? 889 00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:14,814 Objection. Hearsay. 890 00:38:14,857 --> 00:38:16,206 Your Honor, 891 00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:17,860 the child is two years old. 892 00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:19,079 Would you really have me 893 00:38:19,122 --> 00:38:20,515 call him here 894 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,170 to testify?[sighs]: I'll allow it. 895 00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,173 Witness will answer the question. 896 00:38:26,216 --> 00:38:28,131 No, he-he didn't really say anything. 897 00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:31,178 He's only two, and he's very shy. 898 00:38:33,049 --> 00:38:35,008 But every time Jim comes near him, 899 00:38:35,051 --> 00:38:37,097 he hides behind my leg.Objection. 900 00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:39,186 Your Honor, this is simply speculation. 901 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:41,057 It proves nothing. 902 00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,756 Objection sustained. The jury will disregard 903 00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:46,019 the witness's testimony with respect 904 00:38:46,062 --> 00:38:47,063 to her two-year-old child. 905 00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:49,065 Isn't it true your son had 906 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:52,678 a preschool teacher that expressed concern 907 00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:55,594 about visible bruising on the boy's body 908 00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:57,378 and brought it to your husband's attention, 909 00:38:57,422 --> 00:39:02,035 who responded by withdrawing your child from the school? 910 00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:04,080 Way to slip one in, Benny.KNIGHT: Your Honor, 911 00:39:04,124 --> 00:39:06,082 objection. This is just more hearsay 912 00:39:06,126 --> 00:39:08,171 masquerading as testimony. 913 00:39:08,215 --> 00:39:10,130 Objection sustained. Counselor, 914 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:12,350 I know what you're doing. 915 00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:13,438 I don't like it. 916 00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:15,265 Now, I need you to ask questions 917 00:39:15,309 --> 00:39:17,093 that pertain only to events 918 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:18,704 that the witness would have seen for herself. 919 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,314 BENNY: Yes, Your Honor. 920 00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:21,837 [whispers]: Come on. 921 00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:24,144 They got to be reacting to this. 922 00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:28,104 Indeed they are. You just flipped two. 923 00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:34,328 Mrs. Cooper... 924 00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:37,331 were there any other incidents of physical violence 925 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,900 that either involved you or to which... 926 00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:42,641 you were a direct witness? 927 00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:45,426 He, uh... 928 00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,907 burned me. 929 00:39:48,951 --> 00:39:51,301 Here and here. 930 00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:53,608 With cigarettes. 931 00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:56,263 He... 932 00:39:56,306 --> 00:39:58,570 bit my ear. 933 00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:01,137 I had to get stitches. 934 00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:03,052 Anything else? 935 00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:06,404 He kicked me once. 936 00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,188 Kicked you where, 937 00:40:08,231 --> 00:40:10,146 Mrs. Cooper? 938 00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,453 Between my legs. 939 00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:14,194 [gallery murmuring] 940 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,283 BENNY: And you were able 941 00:40:16,326 --> 00:40:19,721 to document each of these incidents? 942 00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:21,157 In each case, 943 00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:23,508 you went and sought medical attention afterwards? 944 00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:25,161 Yes. 945 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:27,294 Although, I always made up a story 946 00:40:27,337 --> 00:40:30,210 as to how I got the injury. 947 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,430 Thank you. 948 00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:34,432 No further questions, Your Honor. 949 00:40:40,612 --> 00:40:43,528 So, you admit you lied about the details 950 00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:46,313 when you sought medical help for these... 951 00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:48,271 so-called injuries? 952 00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:50,360 Yes. I was embarrassed. 953 00:40:50,404 --> 00:40:52,450 So tell me, Mrs. Cooper, 954 00:40:52,493 --> 00:40:55,540 now that we've established that you're an admitted liar, 955 00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:59,239 why should we believe anything else you say? 956 00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:00,719 For instance, 957 00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:03,765 how do we know these injures aren't self-inflicted? 958 00:41:05,419 --> 00:41:06,333 Well, I... 959 00:41:06,376 --> 00:41:08,901 I wouldn't burn my own arm... 960 00:41:08,944 --> 00:41:10,903 ma'am. 961 00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:13,862 And I'm not even sure how I would bite my own ear. 962 00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,516 Not to mention 963 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,344 kick myself... 964 00:41:17,387 --> 00:41:20,347 where I indicated. 965 00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:38,887 Wait, where is Mr. Colón? 966 00:41:38,931 --> 00:41:40,498 Well, he stayed behind 967 00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:42,717 to talk to your ex-brother-in-law's new wife. 968 00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:44,719 She wanted to file charges against him, 969 00:41:44,763 --> 00:41:46,982 and Benny's offered to put her in touch 970 00:41:47,026 --> 00:41:49,028 with the D.A. in Florida. 971 00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:54,512 How do I do this? 972 00:41:54,555 --> 00:41:55,904 Where do I start? 973 00:41:55,948 --> 00:41:59,212 Am I Elena, or do I go back to being Angela? 974 00:41:59,255 --> 00:42:02,258 What do people call me? What do I call myself? 975 00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:04,565 CHLOE: Mom! 976 00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:06,567 ♪ 977 00:42:08,351 --> 00:42:10,353 Captioning sponsored by CBS 978 00:42:11,137 --> 00:42:13,139 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 69430

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