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narrator:
there are global phenomena
that science cannot explain --

true stories that defy
rational explanation.

in the heavily trafficked skies
of mexico city,

a pilot encounters a trio
of unidentified crafts.

first, they take control
of his plane

then ram it head-on.

can he warn those on the ground
of impending danger,

or will he crash trying?

de los santos:
mayday! mayday! mayday!

narrator:
in the united states,

a man mysteriously burns
to a cinder...

this fire originated
and stopped at the body.

...while others suddenly find
themselves engulfed in flame.

the doctor said this burned
from the inside out.

narrator:
a series of careless mishaps?

or is there a culprit
deep within the human body,

a ticking time bomb
ready to explode?

if you let a spark off, it can
almost explode in your face.

i have no doubt
that in the future

this could happen again.

narrator: new investigations
question unexplained happenings

and otherworldly events.

woman:
what is th-- oh, man!

it's hovering!
it's not an aircraft!

narrator: firsthand testimony
and fresh evidence

build new possibilities.

man: never seen
anything like that in my life.

and it just disappeared
into thin air.

it wasn't
from this planet.

my arms were just on fire.

narrator: rethink
everything you think you know.

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mexico city.

almost 9 million people
call this place home,

and every day,

more than 100,000 planes
take off and land.

but few flights have been as
unforgettable and as mysterious

as that of pilot
carlos de los santos.

his dramatic encounter
has baffled aviation experts

for over a quarter-century.

what did carlos see that day
that almost caused him to crash?

did a trio of alien crafts

take control of his plane
for 18 terrifying minutes?

it's a...

very special experience
for me.

man: yes, i'm sure.
i'm sure it is.

may 3, 1975.

pilot carlos de los santos

has just flown
a group of engineers

to a tiny city
along the pacific coast.

before taking off
on his return flight back,

he safety-checks
his piper comanche plane.

[ engine turns over ]

the first 40 miles unfold
without incident.

interpreter: the weather
conditions were very good.

the plane
was in perfect condition.

narrator: but as carlos cruises
over the clouds,

an uneasy feeling envelops him.

is he being watched?

interpreter:
everything was normal,

but i felt i was being observed,
so i turned.

i discovered
that on the top of the wing,

there was an object
heading towards me.

i thought to myself, "dear lord,
what is this i'm seeing?

it's right there."

in a matter
of three to four seconds,

i experienced the exact same
feeling i had on the left side

now on my right side.

it was a second object.

now i'm getting really nervous.

narrator: according to carlos,
two gray objects,

each about 13 feet in diameter

with a small cockpit
or windshield,

are flanking his aircraft.

interpreter:
"what on earth is this?"

narrator:
four seconds later,

a third object appears
in front of the plane,

heading straight for carlos.

interpreter:
now i'm really scared

that it was going to hit
the airplane.

i attempted to dodge it

by pushing the control wheel
forward.

narrator: but the control wheel
won't engage.

carlos is terrified.

who or what
is overriding his plane?

at that moment, i had lost
all control over the aircraft.

the third object managed
to avoid the propeller

and disappeared
beneath the cockpit.

i heard a terrifying blow.

narrator: the object seems to
hit the underside of his plane,

but carlos is unable
to check for damage.

the aircraft is now
completely out of control.

interpreter:
i had no idea what was going on.

three objects
were flying around me.

at that point,
i was terrified.

i needed to call for help.

narrator:
carlos makes an emergency call

to mexico city airport.

this is the actual recording
of that call,

the first time
it has ever been broadcast

on american television.

interpreter:
i was absolutely terrified.

but more importantly,

i had absolutely no control
over the aircraft.

three ufos
are surrounding the plane.

interpreter: i'd never received
a call like that.

we heard a mayday
emergency call.

the voice was very stressed
and almost shouting.

we were all concerned.
the call unnerved us all.

narrator: before carlos
can fully explain his situation,

the plane starts
to dramatically change course.

interpreter: all of a sudden,
the airplane started to ascend

without my input.

narrator: carlos can do nothing
but watch in horror

as the altitude meter
rises ever higher.

interpreter: 10,100. 10,200.
10,300. 10,400. 10,500.

who knows where to?

who is it? who is coming?
who are they? what do they want?

narrator: the plane
creeps past 15,000 feet.

carlos is in trouble.

his small plane
could easily stall.

interpreter: i was only around
20 years old at the time.

at the time,
i was thinking about myself,

my parents, and family.

i was in an awful state.

i was a nervous wreck.

that's a pilot's
worst nightmare.

narrator: but just as carlos
thinks the plane

is about to fall out of the sky,

the strange objects fly off
as quickly as they arrived.

interpreter:
i tried to turn and realized

i had regained control
of the aircraft.

narrator: carlos immediately
starts to lower his altitude

and heads toward the haze
of mexico city on the horizon.

interpreter: i was worried
the objects would come back.

i tried to descend
as fast as possible.

i was eager to land.

narrator: but carlos' ordeal
is far from over.

the cockpit lights indicate

that the landing gear
cannot be locked.

interpreter:
when the third object had struck

the bottom of the fuselage,

it may have damaged
the landing gear.

narrator:
carlos now has no choice

but to keep descending

and prepare for a crash landing.

narrator:
in the skies over mexico city,

terrified pilot
carlos de los santos

finds himself surrounded

by three
unidentified flying objects.

after apparently taking control
of his plane,

they suddenly fly off.

carlos regains control
of his aircraft

but, crucially,
not the landing gear.

interpreter: the third object
hit the bottom of the plane.

the landing gear was damaged.

the three green l.e.d. lights
were flickering,

which indicated the landing gear
had been deployed.

however,
this didn't mean it was secure.

narrator: the control tower
prepares for a crash landing.

interpreter:
they were very concerned

because there's always the risk

that if you land without the
landing gear deployed properly,

it may cause a spark
that would ignite the fuel tank

and blow up the plane.

narrator:
air-traffic controllers

cannot risk injuring others,

so they take drastic measures.

mexico's busiest airport
must be shut down immediately.

interpreter:
i was desperate by then.

narrator: carlos is instructed
to land as safely as he can,

so he chooses a grass strip
between the runways

away from other traffic.

interpreter: my only concern
was to land safely.

i was crying.

narrator: but for reasons
that remain a mystery,

the landing gear
suddenly starts to work again.

interpreter: i opened the door,
left the engine on,

and rushed off the plane.

the plane is okay. you are okay.

everything is okay.

narrator: once carlos' story
about the three ufos

makes it way into the news,

he is taken to the airport's
aviation services center

for assessment.

interpreter: we arrived
at the aviation services.

they started questioning me.

"what happened?"
how am i feeling?

[ monitor beeping ]

they thought i might have been
drunk, drugged, or starving.

[ inhales deeply ]

narrator:
conducting the examination
is dr. luis amezcua.

interpreter:
we did a complete checkup,

as was usual with pilots.

we did an audio test,
checked his vision, cardiogram.

narrator:
blood tests reveal that carlos

is not under the influence
of alcohol or drugs.

one of the conditions that
could explain what carlos saw

is oxygen deficiency.

this leaves no trace.

clinically referred to
as hypoxia,

symptoms can include
hallucinations.

hypoxia can be caused
by high altitudes.

did the rapid ascent
cause carlos to see things?

interpreter: there are
four stages to hypoxia.

the first one presents itself
up to 10,000 feet.

at this stage,
the healthy individual

will feel no symptoms.

the second stage occurs
between 12,000 and 15,000 feet.

that's when the body starts
to become aware

of the lack of oxygen.

breathing becomes faster,
and hyperventilation begins.

narrator: but carlos claims
he first saw the objects

before the climb,
at 10,000 feet,

well below the altitude that
would trigger hallucinations.

carlos' medical examinations
rule out drugs and alcohol,

and hallucinations
were unlikely.

dr. richard haines

was a research scientist at nasa
for 20 years

and is now chief scientist
at narcap,

the national aviation reporting
center for anomalous phenomena.

dr. haines soon discovers

that carlos
is not the only eyewitness

to the day's strange events.

julio diaz had his eyes
fixed on the radar screen

during his conversation
with carlos.

interpreter:
in 26 years of work,

i've never had another
experience like this.

to this day,

it was a unique experience
that i cannot explain.

narrator: what julio sees
deepens the mystery

around carlos' encounter
in the skies over mexico city.

there was no doubt

there was another object
flying in that area.

narrator:
pilot carlos de los santos

claims he encounters
three mysterious flying objects

as he flies a small plane
to mexico city.

but without evidence,
it's easy to dismiss his story

as the imaginings
of an overstressed aviator.

julio diaz was the air-traffic
controller on duty that day.

until now, he has refused
to speak publicly

of what he witnessed that day.

interpreter: i was sitting
at the radar terminal

when the pilot radioed.

he was located 48 miles south
of mexico city airport,

and he said
he had been surrounded

by some unidentified objects.

when the plane
was about 15 miles

from mexico city airport,

we saw another blip
right next to the plane.

there was no doubt

there was another object
flying in that area.

narrator: no other airplanes
are registered

as being in carlos' flight path.

diaz and
the air-traffic controllers

reach the same conclusion --

carlos is telling the truth.

interpreter:
we figured it was the ufos
that were being reported.

we all began to think
of the possibility it was true.

this is important testimony.

and, to me,
it's particularly important

because it's confirmation
of a physical nature.

it's radar confirmation.

and so it provides independent
support for carlos' story.

narrator: but just because
it's not registered

doesn't mean
it's from another world.

could it be a military plane
flying under a veil of secrecy?

while it's possible,
julio dismisses this theory

based on the curious way
the craft moves.

interpreter:
what really got our attention

and concerned us even more

was that it made
a sharp 270-degree left turn

in a radius
of only 3 to 4 miles.

narrator: this is an exceptional
maneuver for any aircraft

and one that no known
commercial plane of the time

could accomplish.

interpreter: something
that's never been seen before

by me or my colleagues.

narrator: haines is not yet
willing to dismiss the idea

that the crafts
are of human origin.

he visits carlos
to get more information.

well, we're faced
with a real mystery here.

what could these three objects
have been?

and it's been suggested

they might be
unmanned aerial vehicles.

sometimes they're called drones.

this sketch
that you made in 1975

shows me a long oval, yes?

narrator: investigators
always have to consider

experimental military aircraft

before categorizing something
as truly unidentified.

a significant percentage
of these things

are actually
classified military aircraft.

for example,
the u.s. stealth bomber --

if you'd seen this large, black,
triangular-shaped aircraft

before people knew
about the stealth bomber,

you might think,
"wow. i've seen a ufo."

narrator:
from carlos' eyewitness account

and the objects' unique agility,

dr. haines is forced to come
to a controversial conclusion.

the objects carlos encountered
are not man-made.

we didn't have drones in 1975

that had that kind
of capability

of very high-speed,
controlled turns,

and the navigation
and guidance required

to maintain a close position
near another airplane in flight.

that takes very high
computational power.

narrator: there are thousands
of similar reports.

curiously, many of them
come from latin america.

one contentious theory
attempts to explain this,

and the clue comes
from carlos' testimony.

he stated that the objects flew
off toward mount popocatépetl,

an active volcano
southeast of the city.

in recent years,
this mountain has developed

a colorful reputation.

ufo enthusiasts carlos guzman
and alfonso salazar

have noted strange sightings

near this volcano
for over 20 years.

on march 12, 2013,

ufo watchers capture on video

a mysterious object
coming out of it.

guzman and salazar believe

aliens use the electromagnetic
forces on our planet

to power their spaceships.

interpreter:
it stands to reason

that these ufos would tend
to go for volcanoes,

where a lot of electromagnetic
activity exists.

the two men also assert that
many south american governments

are actively collecting data on
ufo sightings along the andes.

the brazilian ufologist
a.j. gevaerd

believes this information
is deliberately hidden.

many of the governments
have been aware

of the ufo phenomena for decades

and have been investigating
during this time.

all governments in the world
are hiding information,

something that we cannot explain
to the society

or, worse,
that we cannot control.

it's better to say
that it doesn't exist.

narrator: can there be any truth
to a multinational cover-up?

according to carlos,
the answer is "yes."

interpreter:
two weeks after my experience,

i was overtaken by a black car.

it forced me to stop.

[ tires screech ]

two people got out from the car.

they were dressed in black.

one of them came up
and said to me,

in a robotic voice,

"stop talking about this.
don't say anymore."

i got scared.

i didn't say a word.

they went back to their cars
and left.

[ tires screech ]

i was scared for my family.

i didn't want to have anymore
to do with it.

narrator: carlos was
so terrified by these threats

that he didn't talk about his
experience for over 30 years.

so, what did happen to him
in the air that day in may 1975?

doctors discounted
various medical conditions,

and a hoax has been ruled out
by many.

[ monitor beeping ]

i don't believe what carlos saw
was a hoax.

i don't believe
it was a hallucination.

and i don't believe
it was a drone.

narrator: radar sightings
back up carlos' claim

that there was something
hovering near his aircraft.

diaz's interpreter:
something like it has
never been seen before

by my colleagues or myself.

haines: so, what does that
leave us with?

an unexplained phenomenon.

interpreter: after all these
years, without a doubt,

i do believe that there were
unidentified flying objects.

interpreter:
there is a lot of evidence now

that we are not alone in our
solar system and the universe.

in a way,
it would be selfish of us

to think that we are alone,
that we are the only ones,

and that we are
the only intelligent life

in the universe.

narrator: 1,400 miles away,

an alarming death
startles investigators...

there was nothing burnt
around the body.

narrator: ...while another man
lives to tell a similar tale.

baker: the doctor
was completely baffled,

and he said, "this burned
from the inside out."

narrator: can science find the
cause before it happens again?

in the american midwest,
a man dies in a flash fire.

on average, eight people burn
to death in the u.s. every day,

so the situation
is not unusual...

except for one
mysterious detail.

why is he completely reduced
to ash,

but everything around him
remains untouched?

investigators
rule out homicide today

after a bizarre death
in sequoyah county.

investigators say
other parts of the house

didn't have fire damage,

and there were no signs
of struggle.

it's very unusual,
and it's bizarre,

and i can't explain it.

narrator:
the fire is ruled a mystery,

and the official investigation
ends.

but locals are not ready
to close the books

on this curious case.

they invite paranormal
investigator larry arnold

to come to sequoyah county.

arnold leads an organization
called parascience international

and has published books
and articles

on spontaneous human combustion.

can he uncover the answer?

we're eager to learn more
about this case

because it sounds very
fascinating, very mysterious,

and presently quite unexplained.

narrator:
after a mysterious fire,

paranormal investigator
larry arnold

is questioning witnesses.

he begins by interviewing
the local sheriff, ron lockhart.

lockhart has investigated
arson cases for over 20 years.

but he's never seen
anything like this.

lockhart: it was obvious

that something bizarre
had happened here.

that was a very unusual
fire scene.

normally,
you find burned bodies

in a house that's basically
burned down on top of them.

and normally,
they're not as damaged

as bad
as this body was damaged.

rick russell
is the local fire chief.

he, too, is baffled.

i arrived on scene
at 10:51 a.m.

i noticed when i pulled up

we only had a slight amount
of smoke

coming from the residence,
no flame.

[ camera shutter clicking ]

the thing that really
surprised me was the --

there was nothing burnt
around the body.

the refrigerator
just inches form the body,

plastic handle on the
refrigerator door -- no melting.

plastic handle on the
cooking range -- no melting.

trash bag laying
just inches from the body --

it wasn't wrinkled
from heat.

this fire originated
and stopped at the body.

[ camera shutter clicking ]

narrator:
from the evidence at the scene,

it appears that it was
the body alone that was on fire.

russell concludes
there was no external source,

such as an explosion
caused by gasoline.

i would rule against
a flashover type

because i think we would have
had more evidence of burning.

the ceiling area,

even the stove
and the refrigerator

should have shown signs if we
had an explosion-type fire.

everyone who attends the scene
is mystified.

how did this man die so brutally

when everything else is intact?

larry arnold believes
it has the hallmarks

of a highly debatable
phenomenon --

spontaneous human combustion.

it's an extraordinary
phenomenon.

it's extremely difficult
to investigate.

lockhart: it was bizarre because
everything that was mentioned,

as far as the explanation

and the characteristic of
spontaneous human combustion,

you know,
we can't rule that out.

narrator: the phenomenon has
mystified and divided opinion

for over 300 years.

so, is it based on science
or legend?

since the first recorded case
in 1641,

over 200 incidents have been
reported around the world

from australia to the u.s.

in 1986, a retired firefighter
mysteriously burned to death

in his own apartment
in crown point, new york.

in 2011, an elderly man
who burned to death

in galway, ireland,
made headlines

when the coroner gave a verdict
of spontaneous human combustion,

also known as "shc."

yet many dispute that
it's a real phenomenon at all.

science investigator joe nickell
is skeptical.

in 1984, he undertook
a two-year research project

studying 30 historical cases
of alleged shc.

science cannot find
any mechanism

by which the human body
can burst into flame.

and all such scenarios

that attempt to explain
how the body could combust

are just so much science fiction

and pseudoscience and nonsense.

narrator: investigator
larry arnold disagrees.

he thinks
spontaneous human combustion

is a genuine anomaly
that needs further study.

it's easy for academicians
to generally dismiss shc

because it belies common sense.

the body is 70% to 80% water.

it's like trying to ignite
a swimming pool.

that's where the mystery,

that's where the unexplained
nature of these fires

comes into play.

narrator:
but could the answer be hidden

deep within our own bodies?

is there some trigger
inside our fat cells

that can spark at any time
and reduce us to ash?

[ sirens wail ]

narrator:
in a typical house fire,

the cause of ignition
is easily identifiable,

and the remains of a human body
are recognizable.

except in severe cases,

the internal organs and
the skeleton tend to be intact.

but the fatality
larry arnold is investigating

looks very different.

here, the body has burned
to a cinder,

yet the surroundings
are virtually untouched.

one possible explanation
is called the wick effect,

and there's nothing spontaneous
about it.

could this be what killed
the man in oklahoma?

arnold arranges a test
to find out.

arnold: what we're going to do
in this burn chamber today

is attempt to replicate
or duplicate the wick effect,

which is what naysayers

of spontaneous human combustion
cases

say is the explanation for
wholly immolated human beings.

narrator:
according to the wick effect,

the fat content of the human
body fuels the fatal fire.

a 168-pound male
has around 30 pounds of fat.

when burned, this fat releases

around 105,000 calories
of energy,

equal to three gallons
of gasoline.

this is enough
to engulf an average car,

but can it burn a body?

larry uses a hunk of fatty meat
to replicate the event.

arnold: we have a ham shank
here, containing bone fragment.

pig does burn very similar
to human flesh,

so it's an appropriate stand-in.

we're going to wrap it in cloth.

narrator: at least
2,000 degrees fahrenheit

is required
to reduce a body to ash.

at regular intervals,
larry measures the temperature.

yep, we're already
at 437 degrees and climbing.

narrator: after 15 minutes,
the cloth is charred black,

and the burning has stopped.

but what about the meat?

arnold: the meat
hasn't even been singed,

let alone charred to dry powder.

the wick effect does not work

to explain whole-body
human immolations.

the highest temperature
we measured here

was just under
700 degrees fahrenheit

at the height of combustion.

in a crematorium, by comparison,

the cadaver is exposed
to temperatures

of about 2,400 degrees
fahrenheit

for an hour and a half
to two hours.

narrator: larry's test reached
a temperature of 518 degrees.

to put that in perspective,

even a crematorium incinerator

burning at 2,400 degrees
fahrenheit

is unable
to reduce a body to ash.

after cremation,
the bones are ground up

before the remains
are placed in an urn.

arnold: whatever burned
the human remains in oklahoma,

we submit, cannot be explained
by the wick effect.

narrator: for arnold,
the wick effect doesn't offer

a plausible explanation
for these mysterious deaths.

and there's something
even more remarkable

about this phenomenon.

some have actually lived
to tell the tale

of what happened to them.

frank baker is a decorated
vietnam war veteran

with two purple hearts
and a medal for gallantry.

but his most terrifying
brush with death

was not on any battlefield.

it was in vermont
in june of 1985.

we were getting ready
for fishing.

we were sitting on the couch
the day before the derby.

everything was great.

pete was sitting next to me.

we were having
one hell of a time,

and all of a sudden --

willey: it was the damnedest
thing i've ever seen.

frank was freaking out
and making me freak out.

[ sighs ]
i was in sheer panic.

all i could do
was try to fight it.

i was petrified.

i had no idea what was taking
place with my body. none.

narrator: pete and frank managed
to extinguish the flames

and get to a doctor.

baker: the doctor
was completely baffled,

and he said,
"looking at it, frank,

this burned
from the inside out."

and he said, "i've never, ever
seen anything like this."

frank was nowhere near
any source of heat or flame.

i wasn't smoking.
there were no flames around.

there was no lights on,
no microwaves.

all that was coming in
was the sun

from the far end of the house
when this happened.

narrator:
frank's story doesn't end there.

it's happened more than once.

baker:
we were going fishing.

everything was great.

and then --

all of a sudden,
i started screaming
at the top of my lungs.

my arms were just on fire.

narrator: once more, pete
manages to put out the flames

and save frank's life.

i ain't never seen
anything in my lifetime

such as the things i see
that happened to frank.

narrator:
today, years later,

the damage to his skin
has largely healed.

baker: the scarring
has had 15 years to heal,

and it just settled back down.

narrator: but the psychological
scars remain.

i have no doubt that
in the future or at any time

this could happen again.

arnold: frank baker appears
to fit all the criteria

for survival of partial
spontaneous human combustion,

and he's had to deal with it.

he's had to come to terms

with something
that was said to be impossible,

something that could not happen.

narrator:
but recent research

undertaken
in cambridge, england,

might offer new insight
into the aberration.

professor brian ford

is a leading independent
researcher in cell biology.

he believes
he's identified a substance

that could solve the puzzle,

something so volatile,

it can ignite
with just an invisible spark,

like the static from a sweater.

it will set fire to the bottle,

and it can almost explode
in your face.

narrator:
could ford's theory have
finally zeroed in on the cause?

are there chemicals
in the human body so dangerous,

they act like gasoline
waiting for a match?

narrator: for centuries,
the terrifying enigma

of spontaneous human combustion

has baffled researchers
across the globe.

now, in cambridge, england,
professor brian ford

has developed a theory
that may explain it.

ford: i set out to search
for a compound in the body

that could burst into flame.

and although
we often overlook the fact,

human bodies produce acetone.

narrator: acetone,

which is generally used
as nail-varnish remover,

is highly flammable
with explosive vapors.

ford: all living cells
produce acetone,

but when you're ill,
the level of acetone can go up.

narrator: it's this rise
in acetone levels during illness

that professor ford believes
can be deadly.

acetone behaves
a little bit like gasoline does.

if you let a spark off where
there is the vapor of acetone,

it will set fire to the bottle,

and it can almost explode
in your face.

narrator: the smallest spark,
invisible to the naked eye,

can ignite acetone.

for professor ford,
this is the key

to why the combustion
appears spontaneous.

we know that things,
like a spark from static --

you can even comb your hair
and see sparks in the dark.

the mystery is,

how does the person themselves
become flammable?

and of course, if they've got
acetone in their tissues,

that might convert a person
from being incombustible

into being something
that burns like a rocket.

narrator: professor ford
conducts a colorful experiment

to test this theory.

he begins by making

a scale-model human figurine
out of pork

and dressing it
in miniature clothes.

it's then soaked in acetone

so that the cells
become saturated.

so, let's see.

what i believe happens
in spontaneous human combustion

is that the combination
between fat and acetone

becomes highly inflammable,

and that is why,
in a case like this,

you see not just that you end up
with a barbecued person

but that the body is destroyed
by the heat energy released

from within
the victim's tissues.

and that is what makes this

into such a tragic, terrifying,
appalling way to die.

narrator: within half an hour,
the model is reduced to ash.

but, for larry arnold,
the experiment has a fatal flaw.

the downside we see
with professor ford's attempts

to replicate shc
in the laboratory

is that he uses a very high
concentration of acetone,

and we do not believe
that a living person

could be alive with the amount
of acetone in the body

that he requires
for his experimentation.

we just don't find it
attributable to many cases,

if not all cases, of shc,
certainly not the cases

that have been witnessed
and survived.

narrator:
survivor frank baker has no idea

of his acetone levels
at the time,

but he maintains that ill health
is not the answer.

at the time
the incidents took place,

my health was in perfect shape.

there was nothing,
absolutely nothing

that could have triggered
what happened.

the way i see it,

it has to be something
in our body,

whether it's in
our blood stream,

whether it's atoms coming
together that maybe shouldn't.

narrator: mainstream science
remains wary

of embracing
instantaneous combustion.

too many unanswered questions
linger.

but for people like baker,

that's no reason
to delay research.

until science took a hard look
at almost anything,

it was considered unexplained.

baker:
these people that are dying --

it's not happening
because they want to die.

so, you know,
look into it, scientists.

have an open mind.

this is what we rely on science
for -- for facts.

they don't have the facts,
then look for them.

that's what you're there for,
to try to help other people.