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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:22,047 We've got company. 2 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:32,316 Picture yourself on a beach at dusk 3 00:02:32,352 --> 00:02:34,585 a big red sun that's setting into the ocean 4 00:02:34,621 --> 00:02:36,888 and you're not paying attention to where you're headed. 5 00:02:36,923 --> 00:02:42,426 You drift on closer to the tide, the sand underfoot loosens. 6 00:02:42,462 --> 00:02:47,031 You look back at the horizon and the sun is gone. 7 00:02:47,067 --> 00:02:49,067 And you realize all at once 8 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:52,837 the composition of this sand is entirely different 9 00:02:52,873 --> 00:02:55,339 than any you've ever known. 10 00:02:55,375 --> 00:02:58,109 Your feet sink to the ankle when you step 11 00:02:58,145 --> 00:03:02,613 to the shin, to the hip. 12 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:06,251 You turn back, but now you can barely move at all. 13 00:03:06,286 --> 00:03:09,287 The harder you struggle, the deeper you get. 14 00:03:09,322 --> 00:03:11,689 You're in up to your chest. 15 00:03:11,724 --> 00:03:17,228 It sticks to you and won't let go. 16 00:03:17,264 --> 00:03:18,863 It's too late. 17 00:03:18,899 --> 00:03:21,632 You can't escape it. 18 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:24,302 That's how we found ourselves in Vietnam. 19 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,508 It was 1963, the hottest season in the Cold War: 20 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:34,679 Iron Curtain, Missile Gap, too soft on communism. 21 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:37,048 The RAND Corporation, America's leading think tank 22 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:39,317 recruited top economists and political analysts 23 00:03:39,352 --> 00:03:42,954 to run models of any possible conflict for the military. 24 00:03:42,989 --> 00:03:44,388 War games. 25 00:03:44,424 --> 00:03:46,457 If the Soviets match our forces in Norway 26 00:03:46,492 --> 00:03:49,060 and NATO's in Germany, there will be a stalemate. 27 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:51,262 Forget that. Forget that. 28 00:03:51,298 --> 00:03:53,397 Germany will be covered. 29 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:57,401 The Soviets know and expect that so their MRBMs will be ready. 30 00:03:57,437 --> 00:03:59,003 We can flank them 31 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:00,538 right, gentlemen? 32 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:05,009 Double the number of Jupiters in Turkey. 33 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:07,712 Your moves are too predictable. 34 00:04:07,747 --> 00:04:09,247 If you don't send a clear message, Dan 35 00:04:09,282 --> 00:04:11,415 then it's World War III. We're all radioactive waste. 36 00:04:11,451 --> 00:04:12,851 The risks, the risks are too great. 37 00:04:12,886 --> 00:04:13,852 Wrong. 38 00:04:13,887 --> 00:04:18,456 Risk. Use risk, use coercion, use threats. 39 00:04:18,491 --> 00:04:19,991 Use bluff. 40 00:04:20,026 --> 00:04:22,093 They're the fundamentals of any game theory. 41 00:04:22,128 --> 00:04:26,497 There's no upside to behaving rationally in a conflict. 42 00:04:26,532 --> 00:04:27,866 Keep them guessing. 43 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:31,702 Make them fear the fact that you have nothing to lose 44 00:04:31,738 --> 00:04:34,873 It's a peculiarity of thermonuclear threats 45 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:38,877 that make cowards of practically everyone. 46 00:04:38,912 --> 00:04:43,214 Very few objectives that seem worth it to anyone. 47 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:46,751 John Foster Dulles unbelievably was right. 48 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:49,087 "The ability to get to the verge without getting into the war 49 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:50,088 is a necessary art." 50 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:53,258 As awful as it sounds, blackmail is good. 51 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:54,825 The bombing of Hiroshima 52 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:57,795 increased credibility of US nuclear threat. 53 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:59,830 And killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese. 54 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:02,233 And saved hundreds of thousands of American lives 55 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:03,801 and ended the war. 56 00:05:03,836 --> 00:05:05,303 We won. 57 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:07,939 You outmaneuvered the room 58 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:09,207 you pissed everybody off 59 00:05:09,242 --> 00:05:10,942 and I know how much you love that 60 00:05:10,977 --> 00:05:13,711 but everything is not about you, Dan. 61 00:05:13,746 --> 00:05:15,646 This is the RAND Corporation. 62 00:05:15,681 --> 00:05:17,282 We're privileged to be here. 63 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,150 These people are your colleagues. 64 00:05:19,185 --> 00:05:21,852 Try working with them once in a while. 65 00:05:21,888 --> 00:05:23,087 That being said 66 00:05:23,123 --> 00:05:25,123 your theories have a lot of merit. 67 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:27,358 You should bring them into the real world. 68 00:05:27,394 --> 00:05:28,359 What do you mean? 69 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:30,094 Why did you use the Conrad anecdote? 70 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:32,263 The one about the man with the nitroglycerin. 71 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:33,965 The cops were afraid to pick him up 72 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,200 because they know he has the will to blow himself up 73 00:05:36,236 --> 00:05:38,169 and everybody else. I didn't mean it. 74 00:05:38,204 --> 00:05:39,304 Well, maybe you did. 75 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:40,371 It would have fed into your theories 76 00:05:40,407 --> 00:05:41,839 which you should expand on. 77 00:05:41,874 --> 00:05:44,542 Madness even as a tool or a weapon. 78 00:05:44,577 --> 00:05:46,144 Who would be a model? 79 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:48,913 Hitler. 80 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:49,948 Very good. 81 00:05:49,983 --> 00:05:51,682 The Viet Cong are a guerrilla force 82 00:05:51,717 --> 00:05:55,353 employing the harassing tactics used by George Washington 83 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:57,255 during the Revolutionary War. 84 00:05:58,258 --> 00:05:59,991 Quick strikes 85 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:03,027 expert use of terrain for ambushes 86 00:06:03,063 --> 00:06:05,463 antipersonnel devices-- 87 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:08,233 they're complemented by the more regimented 88 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:10,534 and battle-hardened North Vietnamese army 89 00:06:10,570 --> 00:06:13,137 responsible for the rout of the French at Dien Bien Phu. 90 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:15,974 The VC and the NVA are making daily incursions 91 00:06:16,009 --> 00:06:18,243 deeper and deeper into the South 92 00:06:18,278 --> 00:06:20,078 with significant success. 93 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:23,147 What I wanted most of all was to serve my country 94 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:24,916 to be one of the president's men. 95 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:28,353 Everything I did was to further that goal: 96 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:30,721 scholarship to Harvard, fellowship at Cambridge 97 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:33,224 an officer in the Marine Corps 98 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:36,494 writing my PhD and landing an assignment at RAND. 99 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:38,596 It was a heady place 100 00:06:38,631 --> 00:06:40,765 but always every second of the day I felt restless. 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,633 What are you reading? 102 00:06:42,668 --> 00:06:44,535 Bernard Fall. Vietnam. 103 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:46,304 We've been so distracted by Cuba 104 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:48,672 we're just tiptoeing around in Southeast Asia. 105 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:50,708 No conviction, no definition. 106 00:06:50,743 --> 00:06:54,745 Russians, North Vietnamese decisively subverting the South. 107 00:06:54,781 --> 00:06:57,348 Read your paper. 108 00:06:57,384 --> 00:06:59,117 And? 109 00:06:59,152 --> 00:07:00,985 "Political Uses of Madness." 110 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:03,721 Where in the world did you get that idea? 111 00:07:03,756 --> 00:07:05,924 It's out there. 112 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:07,491 It's provocative. 113 00:07:07,527 --> 00:07:08,826 It's dangerous. 114 00:07:08,861 --> 00:07:10,461 It's a good paper. 115 00:07:10,496 --> 00:07:15,699 I'm frustrated, Harry. 116 00:07:15,735 --> 00:07:17,101 You see it? 117 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:20,805 I'm just... stuck. 118 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,173 Well, you'll be interested to know 119 00:07:22,208 --> 00:07:23,975 that the paper found its way to the Pentagon 120 00:07:24,010 --> 00:07:26,077 and into the hands of the Assistant Secretary of Defense. 121 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:27,111 John McNaughton read it? 122 00:07:27,147 --> 00:07:27,578 Yeah. 123 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:28,646 What'd he think? 124 00:07:28,681 --> 00:07:29,747 He said, "Not bad." 125 00:07:29,782 --> 00:07:32,450 Did he understand it? 126 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:33,617 Oh, I doubt it. 127 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:36,587 Which is probably why, at my suggestion 128 00:07:36,622 --> 00:07:39,457 he wants you to come to work for him. 129 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:03,414 Daniel, this is your going away party 130 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:05,016 and you're the guest of honor. 131 00:08:05,051 --> 00:08:08,152 Is there any chance of you at least even pretending 132 00:08:08,188 --> 00:08:09,820 you're having a good time? 133 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,177 Why don't we start out with a little salad? 134 00:08:37,617 --> 00:08:39,617 Can I help? 135 00:08:42,055 --> 00:08:45,323 Are you all right? 136 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:47,458 How's the packing going? 137 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:50,328 I'm finished with your stuff. 138 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:53,131 I told you that I'd help. 139 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:56,167 I'm not going with you next weekend. 140 00:08:56,202 --> 00:08:57,201 When are you coming? 141 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:58,236 I'm not 142 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:00,171 and neither are the children. 143 00:09:01,941 --> 00:09:04,775 Can I have a piece of cake now? 144 00:09:05,611 --> 00:09:07,178 Dan Ellsberg. Hi, I'm Rich Corcoran. 145 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:08,746 Just wanted to say congratulations. 146 00:09:08,781 --> 00:09:09,647 I'm going to be replacing you. 147 00:09:09,682 --> 00:09:10,781 What? 148 00:09:10,816 --> 00:09:12,450 You ready for the big move, Dan? 149 00:09:12,485 --> 00:09:13,451 What? Excuse me. 150 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:14,485 Bon voyage, man. 151 00:09:19,792 --> 00:09:22,193 Carol, I know this is disruptive 152 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:23,727 but it's important. 153 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:27,198 We can have a real voice in shaping the policy in Washington. 154 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:28,866 Carol, this means something. 155 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:31,302 No, you have a chance to change policy means something. 156 00:09:31,337 --> 00:09:33,304 I love you, but I've never "meant something." 157 00:09:33,339 --> 00:09:34,305 That's not true. 158 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:35,339 Not even the kids. 159 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:36,474 What are you talking about? 160 00:09:36,509 --> 00:09:38,443 I don't even know how to respond to that. 161 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,677 Don't worry. 162 00:09:39,712 --> 00:09:42,012 I can't ask you to choose your family over your ambitions. 163 00:09:42,048 --> 00:09:43,013 Will you stop with the dishes? 164 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:44,014 This isn't even... 165 00:09:44,050 --> 00:09:45,083 This isn't even our house. 166 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:47,151 I know you're destined to do great things. 167 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:48,286 I've always known that. 168 00:09:48,321 --> 00:09:50,888 I just hoped our family would have been one of them. 169 00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:54,725 I won't go to Washington. 170 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,462 I want a divorce. 171 00:09:57,497 --> 00:09:58,729 What? 172 00:10:01,767 --> 00:10:04,969 Carol, I can change. 173 00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:10,708 With all your wonderful talents and ambitions 174 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:12,876 the one thing you'll never be able to do is change 175 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:14,912 and the only thing in my life that will change 176 00:10:14,947 --> 00:10:16,147 is the scenery. 177 00:10:24,691 --> 00:10:26,557 I threw myself into my work. 178 00:10:26,593 --> 00:10:28,526 They had me in a sub-basement 179 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:30,995 analyzing incoming data from Vietnam. 180 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:34,732 My rank was a GS-18, the highest-level clearance 181 00:10:34,768 --> 00:10:35,933 for a civilian. 182 00:10:35,968 --> 00:10:37,402 It was impressive. 183 00:10:37,437 --> 00:10:40,104 I reported to John McNaughton, Assistant Secretary of Defense 184 00:10:40,139 --> 00:10:42,407 who had the ear of Secretary McNamara 185 00:10:42,442 --> 00:10:43,441 who had the ear 186 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,643 of the new president, Lyndon Johnson. 187 00:10:45,678 --> 00:10:48,145 This was where I'd always wanted to be. 188 00:11:19,946 --> 00:11:21,646 My fellow Americans 189 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:25,683 as President and Commander-in-Chief 190 00:11:25,718 --> 00:11:27,284 it is my duty 191 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,854 to the American people 192 00:11:29,889 --> 00:11:35,793 to report that renewed hostile actions 193 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:38,763 against United States ships on the high seas 194 00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:43,067 and the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me 195 00:11:43,102 --> 00:11:47,338 to order the military forces of the United States... 196 00:11:47,373 --> 00:11:49,607 Looks like it's our war now, Ellsberg. 197 00:11:49,642 --> 00:11:52,610 I want a position paper, Dan, on what this could mean. 198 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,378 Give me logic, give me rational. 199 00:11:54,413 --> 00:11:57,281 Define the variables, the possible course of action. 200 00:11:57,316 --> 00:11:58,883 No emotion-- facts, always facts 201 00:11:58,918 --> 00:11:59,884 but make it strong. 202 00:11:59,919 --> 00:12:01,051 How fast? 203 00:12:01,087 --> 00:12:02,086 Fast? Can I have it? 204 00:12:02,121 --> 00:12:03,087 Well... 205 00:12:03,122 --> 00:12:04,021 Not fast enough. 206 00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:24,942 Senator, regardless of any provocation 207 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:26,677 the attack against the SS Maddox 208 00:12:26,713 --> 00:12:29,614 in the Gulf of Tonkin clearly violates the Geneva Accord. 209 00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:32,984 It demands immediate, decisive, prejudiced response. 210 00:12:33,019 --> 00:12:35,586 If an American ship is attacked on the high seas 211 00:12:35,622 --> 00:12:36,787 we have to act 212 00:12:36,823 --> 00:12:39,089 in spite of the risk-- because of the risk. 213 00:12:39,125 --> 00:12:41,291 Foreign policy stakes are too high 214 00:12:41,327 --> 00:12:44,094 for us not to apply maximum force and power 215 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:46,263 necessary to implement that policy. 216 00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:49,600 You're late. 217 00:12:49,636 --> 00:12:51,569 I know. 218 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:52,837 Who is that? 219 00:12:52,872 --> 00:12:54,405 That's Dan Ellsberg. 220 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,073 That's Daniel Ellsberg. 221 00:12:56,108 --> 00:12:59,143 What's he so rabidly talking about? 222 00:13:04,383 --> 00:13:05,783 ...postulate from how we act 223 00:13:05,818 --> 00:13:07,051 then apply it to nations and wars. 224 00:13:07,086 --> 00:13:08,252 Vietnam falls to the Communists 225 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:09,620 the disturbing reality is 226 00:13:09,656 --> 00:13:12,423 the rest of Southeast Asia will face the same fate. 227 00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:14,025 This is a civil war. 228 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:15,359 Shouldn't we let the people of Vietnam 229 00:13:15,394 --> 00:13:16,326 determine their own fate? 230 00:13:16,362 --> 00:13:17,327 They never have before. 231 00:13:17,363 --> 00:13:18,328 They're not ready to now. 232 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:19,864 Their supposed movement for independence 233 00:13:19,899 --> 00:13:21,398 has been going on for thousands of years. 234 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:22,399 Nothing ever happens. 235 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:23,467 It predates us. 236 00:13:23,502 --> 00:13:25,502 They fight the Chinese, the French, the Japanese 237 00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:27,137 the French again, the Chinese again... 238 00:13:27,173 --> 00:13:28,573 Oh, I see. 239 00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:30,575 You think that because the Soviets and Chinese 240 00:13:30,610 --> 00:13:32,409 are backing the Communists 241 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:35,512 our global prestige and power are at stake. 242 00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:36,614 No, let's just roll over. 243 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:37,949 Worked for Neville Chamberlain 244 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:39,951 in Poland, Hungary and France in World War II. 245 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:41,018 That was Hitler. 246 00:13:41,054 --> 00:13:42,152 This is Brezhnev and Mao. 247 00:13:42,188 --> 00:13:43,487 Who's to say, really the differences 248 00:13:43,522 --> 00:13:44,956 aren't much more than a bad mustache? 249 00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:58,435 I'm Dan Ellsberg. 250 00:13:58,471 --> 00:14:01,171 So I've been warned. 251 00:14:01,207 --> 00:14:02,506 Patricia Marx. 252 00:14:02,541 --> 00:14:03,507 This is your house. 253 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:05,242 Thank you for inviting me to your party. 254 00:14:05,277 --> 00:14:06,877 It's my father's house, his party. 255 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:07,979 I didn't invite you. 256 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:13,851 I could take your argument apart piece by piece. 257 00:14:13,886 --> 00:14:16,153 By the time the sun rose, you'd be on my side. 258 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,789 What makes you think that I would be so easy to convert? 259 00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:20,625 Because I'm right. 260 00:14:22,061 --> 00:14:23,193 Hmm. 261 00:14:25,798 --> 00:14:27,665 Some other time. 262 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,366 How long have you been here? 263 00:14:29,401 --> 00:14:30,534 The party? 264 00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:31,535 Washington? 265 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:33,137 Three months. Four. 266 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:35,673 Ready to conquer the world. 267 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,412 You do know that they call this the Virgin City. 268 00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:44,414 Everybody comes here to screw the Virgin 269 00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:46,651 and gets screwed by the Virgin. 270 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:50,721 Hmm. 271 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:55,926 Where are you going? 272 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,163 How would it look 273 00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:02,166 if I didn't walk over and greet my boyfriend? 274 00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:18,683 Hi. 275 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,234 It started as a trickle. 276 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:39,369 Estimates of enemy dead were hugely exaggerated 277 00:15:39,405 --> 00:15:40,705 while the field reports 278 00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,240 would show heavy enemy fire and American casualties. 279 00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:45,242 The inefficiency was crippling. 280 00:15:45,277 --> 00:15:49,313 There was absolutely no way to tell where we stood. 281 00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:50,647 John. 282 00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:59,890 This says nightly shelling was stopped at Ben Tre. 283 00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:01,859 This was sent the same day from the same command. 284 00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:03,293 Three American soldiers were killed 285 00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:04,561 on the night of March 11th 286 00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:06,130 from incoming rounds at Ben Tre. 287 00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:07,331 Maybe it's an aberration. 288 00:16:07,366 --> 00:16:08,365 It's no aberration. 289 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,267 This is standard operating procedure. 290 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,436 A month ago I sent you a folder like these. 291 00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:13,637 I haven't heard a word. 292 00:16:13,672 --> 00:16:16,173 And they keep on coming-- mistakes, discrepancies... 293 00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:18,109 Every piece of intelligence that we get 294 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:19,810 can be contradicted by an equally 295 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:20,778 trustworthy source. 296 00:16:20,813 --> 00:16:21,779 So what do you suggest? 297 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:22,847 That you read them. 298 00:16:22,882 --> 00:16:23,981 And then what? 299 00:16:24,016 --> 00:16:25,515 A fact-finding mission-- 300 00:16:25,551 --> 00:16:29,086 a real one that actually uncovers facts. 301 00:16:29,122 --> 00:16:32,022 I'll go over there. I'll volunteer. 302 00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:33,023 What are you going to do? 303 00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:34,491 Reenlist in the Marines? Go into combat? 304 00:16:34,526 --> 00:16:35,659 We need an accurate picture 305 00:16:35,694 --> 00:16:37,394 of what the hell's happening over there. 306 00:16:37,429 --> 00:16:39,029 It's our job to know the right answers. 307 00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:40,798 Otherwise, how the hell can the President 308 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,233 make intelligent policy choices? 309 00:16:42,268 --> 00:16:43,433 You should read... I have. 310 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,673 It's about time. 311 00:16:49,708 --> 00:16:52,276 I've been waiting for you. 312 00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:56,013 What took you so long? 313 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:03,020 If these numbers are wrong, false 314 00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:04,822 we could be fighting on the wrong side. 315 00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:06,356 So do go, and while you're there 316 00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:08,058 I want you to prepare a White Paper 317 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:09,526 on ways we can get out of this 318 00:17:09,561 --> 00:17:10,694 if everything collapses. 319 00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:12,029 What are you saying? 320 00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:14,298 You of all people, you're the hawk that killed the dove. 321 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:15,565 Ask the right questions 322 00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:18,169 define the answers, throw out the assumptions. 323 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:19,569 Facts. Not self-interest 324 00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:20,737 not myths, not bullshit 325 00:17:20,773 --> 00:17:22,173 not yours or anybody else's. 326 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:23,707 Report to me, only me. 327 00:17:23,742 --> 00:17:26,476 The numbers are contradictory; they're troubling 328 00:17:26,512 --> 00:17:29,013 but you're wrong. 329 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:31,148 You should be clear that you could be signing 330 00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,784 the death warrant to your career by having anything to do 331 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:35,752 with calculations and decisions like these. 332 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,521 A lot of people 333 00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:39,924 have been ruined for less. 334 00:17:51,003 --> 00:17:54,371 I was assigned to General Edward Lansdale's contingent. 335 00:17:54,406 --> 00:17:56,607 Based in Saigon 336 00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:59,309 I quickly found there are two different worlds-- 337 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:02,780 Saigon and out there. 338 00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:16,694 When a hamlet was declared "pacified" 339 00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:18,963 I'd hook up and go out into the province 340 00:18:18,998 --> 00:18:20,097 and see for myself. 341 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:23,067 What about this province? 342 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:24,902 Charlie pulled out a few weeks ago. 343 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:26,436 Then that's secure. 344 00:18:26,472 --> 00:18:28,505 Well, I wouldn't exactly say that. 345 00:18:29,675 --> 00:18:30,874 Well, is it secure or isn't it? 346 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,910 It's the most reliable information we've got. 347 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:35,079 That's neither information nor reliable. 348 00:18:38,584 --> 00:18:40,818 Hey, Ellsberg, is that you? 349 00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:42,720 Who's that? 350 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:45,122 Tony Russo. 351 00:18:45,157 --> 00:18:47,591 Russo? What the hell are you doing here? 352 00:18:47,627 --> 00:18:49,793 What's going on in there? 353 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:51,228 RAND sent me over here 354 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:53,664 to supervise a program for the army. 355 00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:56,233 We're interviewing Viet Cong prisoners 356 00:18:56,268 --> 00:18:57,935 on motivation and morale. 357 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,037 Don't seem to have a problem with motivation and morale. 358 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,039 Hmm, sure as hell don't. 359 00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,308 It's not what we predicted, man. 360 00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:09,179 No matter how much ordnance and napalm 361 00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:11,348 and personnel we throw at them 362 00:19:11,383 --> 00:19:14,685 they are not giving up. 363 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,487 But I thought you were back in Washington. 364 00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,757 What's up? What are you doing here? 365 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:20,958 Finding a way to win. 366 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,159 Ah... 367 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:25,763 You want to know how to win? 368 00:19:25,798 --> 00:19:29,466 Convince them it's okay to lose. 369 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,501 Get him out of here. 370 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:40,544 I expected to be overseas for a few weeks. 371 00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:43,047 Then weeks turned into months, and months into seasons. 372 00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:44,581 I wasn't any closer to finding out 373 00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:46,183 why everything felt like an excuse. 374 00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:50,554 Inconsistencies that even contradicted themselves. 375 00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:54,558 But I still felt... more committed than ever. 376 00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:14,912 They carried themselves with pride. 377 00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:17,614 Their courage was deep. 378 00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:20,851 If they were afraid of dying, they never showed it. 379 00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:25,322 It's wet. 380 00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:26,790 Ground's wet. 381 00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:28,058 Heater's wet. 382 00:20:28,094 --> 00:20:29,559 Feet's wet. 383 00:20:29,595 --> 00:20:31,361 What's your name? 384 00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:34,497 Compson, Leonard, the III, sir. 385 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:36,566 You can drop the "sir." I'm just an observer. 386 00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:37,667 Observer, huh? 387 00:20:37,703 --> 00:20:38,869 Zip it... 388 00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:40,971 and whip it, Compson. 389 00:21:12,638 --> 00:21:13,637 Can you play? 390 00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:14,805 No. 391 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,240 You're a reporter? 392 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:17,307 It's true. 393 00:21:17,342 --> 00:21:20,210 I sense a certain distrust. 394 00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:22,045 Don't like what I read. 395 00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,481 What would you like us to say? 396 00:21:24,516 --> 00:21:27,617 Something positive. Anything positive. 397 00:21:27,653 --> 00:21:28,618 You mean lie. 398 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:32,756 Things are going to change. 399 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:34,024 How long you been in country? 400 00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:36,894 Six months. 401 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:39,863 Good luck. I hope you're right. 402 00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:44,268 Hey, if you do get a good story, let me know. 403 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,436 Neil Sheehan with UPI. 404 00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,771 Dan Ellsberg. 405 00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,258 So, how much longer do you think we'll be here? 406 00:22:08,294 --> 00:22:10,660 I think we'll be here as long as it takes. 407 00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:12,629 And how long do you think that is? 408 00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:21,905 Daniel Ellsberg, December 1965, Saigon. 409 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:23,173 What are you doing here? 410 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:25,142 I'm a radio correspondent. 411 00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:26,576 I have my own show. 412 00:22:26,611 --> 00:22:29,012 Care to comment on our progress? 413 00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:30,280 Our progress? 414 00:22:30,316 --> 00:22:34,852 I'd say your coming over here is a good first step. 415 00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:37,620 How is the pacification program going? 416 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,858 Not well. You don't seem particularly pacified. 417 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:46,629 What kind of success do you think we're having 418 00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:48,932 in training the South Vietnamese army 419 00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:50,934 and improving their fighting efficiency? 420 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:53,237 About the same amount of success as I'm having 421 00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,172 avoiding this interview and asking you 422 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,441 to dinner. 423 00:22:58,477 --> 00:23:03,613 Dr. Ellsberg, when can we expect 424 00:23:03,648 --> 00:23:07,517 an acceptable outcome here, and what will that be? 425 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:13,690 I guess we're 426 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:14,624 done here. 427 00:23:14,659 --> 00:23:16,526 Thank you. 428 00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:17,694 Thank you very much. 429 00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:18,728 You're welcome. 430 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:34,678 Do you know the lotus is one of the few flowers 431 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:37,346 that bears fruit and petals at the same time? 432 00:23:37,382 --> 00:23:39,515 Does your head hurt with all the information 433 00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:41,051 you cram into it? 434 00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:42,085 When they bloom... 435 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,387 they get more beautiful 436 00:23:44,422 --> 00:23:47,390 with each new... ring of petals that open. 437 00:23:48,426 --> 00:23:49,693 Quick, over there. 438 00:23:49,728 --> 00:23:52,328 Oh... 439 00:23:52,363 --> 00:23:54,097 I like the rain. 440 00:23:59,838 --> 00:24:02,405 It makes you look beautiful. 441 00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:20,483 How'd you get that? 442 00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:22,418 When I was a kid my mother decided 443 00:25:22,453 --> 00:25:24,487 I was going to be a concert pianist. 444 00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:28,158 I had a certain amount of talent, I guess 445 00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:32,162 but it was impossible to miss my lack of greatness. 446 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,097 Didn't faze her at all. 447 00:25:34,132 --> 00:25:35,464 She had complete faith. 448 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,834 Made me practice endlessly. 449 00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:38,835 Oh... 450 00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:41,671 And when I was 15, on the Fourth of July 451 00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:44,007 my father fell asleep at the wheel 452 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:46,442 and I woke up in the hospital a day later 453 00:25:46,477 --> 00:25:49,312 and they told me my mother and sister had died. 454 00:25:49,347 --> 00:25:50,313 My God. 455 00:25:50,348 --> 00:25:52,148 I remember... 456 00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:57,353 my first thought when they told me was 457 00:25:57,388 --> 00:26:00,824 "I won't have to practice piano anymore" 458 00:26:00,859 --> 00:26:03,093 and I never played again. 459 00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:12,001 Tell me about your radio show. 460 00:26:12,037 --> 00:26:13,069 Well... 461 00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:16,973 I, um... I see somebody who's interesting-- 462 00:26:17,008 --> 00:26:19,709 an artist, a politician, anybody... 463 00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,677 The officer in the bar? 464 00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:23,780 : Sometimes. 465 00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:24,981 Mm-hmm. 466 00:26:25,016 --> 00:26:26,850 And I go after them. 467 00:26:26,885 --> 00:26:28,584 It's called Patricia Marx Interviews. 468 00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,220 Yeah, I'd listen if I was back home. 469 00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,354 It only airs in New York. 470 00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:32,555 Then I'd move to New York. 471 00:26:32,590 --> 00:26:33,790 Why don't you? 472 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:42,065 Why don't you come back with me in a few weeks? 473 00:26:47,672 --> 00:26:50,373 I'm so glad you're here. 474 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:54,644 Me, too. 475 00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:15,691 ...four, six, south. Bouvier, over. 476 00:28:17,662 --> 00:28:19,262 What's up, Sergeant? 477 00:28:19,297 --> 00:28:21,964 VC and Alpha Company surprised each other. 478 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,266 The villa got caught 479 00:28:23,301 --> 00:28:24,367 in the middle of the crossfire. 480 00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:25,701 How many VC and American casualties? 481 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:34,377 Says the only dead she saw was villagers. 482 00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:36,179 We got a report this morning. 483 00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:38,014 20 enemy dead. Ask her again. 484 00:28:44,922 --> 00:28:46,656 Just villagers. 485 00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:14,750 Russo? 486 00:29:14,786 --> 00:29:17,654 Yeah? Ellsberg. 487 00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:20,056 Nice pressed shirt. 488 00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:22,058 You always wear those damn pressed shirts. 489 00:29:23,828 --> 00:29:24,794 You all right? 490 00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:25,961 Yeah, I'm, uh... 491 00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,530 I'm-I'm contemplating. 492 00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:28,631 Contemplating. 493 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:31,801 What are you contemplating? 494 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:38,040 These Viet Cong prisoners I'm interviewing-- 495 00:29:38,076 --> 00:29:40,009 that I was told were 496 00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:43,112 chicken-scratching, yellow-bellying vermin-- 497 00:29:43,147 --> 00:29:44,514 in fact seem to be 498 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:50,820 dedicated, determined, committed, monkish, and, uh... 499 00:29:50,855 --> 00:29:52,188 idealistic. 500 00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:54,524 Why is that? 501 00:29:58,263 --> 00:30:00,363 600 of them. 502 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,235 What are you doing? 503 00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:07,270 Body count. 504 00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:08,104 Body count. 505 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:09,706 Body count. 506 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,408 There is no body count. 507 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:15,044 Yeah. Ain't life good? 508 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:16,212 Ain't body count good? 509 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,813 Ain't Saigon good? 510 00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:20,416 : You ever heard the one about General Navarre? 511 00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:21,451 "The Frog"? 512 00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:25,121 1954, it was just before Dien Bien Phu. 513 00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:27,257 Asked "How many DBs?" 514 00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:31,093 "300," came the answer. "300 dead bodies." 515 00:30:31,129 --> 00:30:32,729 "Very well," said the General. 516 00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:35,565 "Now we know that the Viet Minh drag off that dead." 517 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,166 "So, you have 300 bodies 518 00:30:37,201 --> 00:30:39,469 "that probably means 3,000 killed. 519 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,604 "You must allow 10% for error. 520 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,774 So, we'll tell the press 3,300 killed." 521 00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:46,509 "By body count, sir?" 522 00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:49,078 "How else?" sayeth the General. 523 00:30:49,113 --> 00:30:51,947 Two and two is five. 524 00:30:51,983 --> 00:30:53,549 Exactly it. 525 00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,085 Dr. Ellsberg, you always could get to the nub. 526 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,119 Five. 527 00:31:06,398 --> 00:31:08,864 I think you're exercising the wrong muscle. 528 00:31:11,403 --> 00:31:14,136 I'm leaving in the morning, you know? 529 00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:15,871 I'll be finished soon. 530 00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:18,841 Yeah? 531 00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:20,743 I've heard that one before. 532 00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:25,080 Just have to get things back on track. 533 00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:27,917 What does "back on track" mean? 534 00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:30,453 Movement towards some sort of victory. 535 00:31:30,488 --> 00:31:32,254 "Some sort of victory?" 536 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:35,658 You haven't seen enough here to know better? 537 00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:37,627 Patricia, this country is in our vital interest. 538 00:31:37,662 --> 00:31:38,628 Fighting for it isn't wrong. 539 00:31:38,663 --> 00:31:39,629 The way we're doing it... 540 00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:41,030 Oh, spare me. 541 00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:42,332 Really. Spare me. 542 00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:44,767 I do not even want to know what kind of nonsense 543 00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:47,036 you're peddling to those fools at the Pentagon. 544 00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:49,339 You encouraging them to escalate this 545 00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:50,540 beyond all reason? 546 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,843 You want more of our boys-- 547 00:31:53,878 --> 00:31:57,046 more of those innocent boys-- to be turned into cannon fodder? 548 00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:58,247 Is that what you want? 549 00:31:58,282 --> 00:31:59,982 'Cause that's what you're doing. 550 00:32:00,017 --> 00:32:01,183 That's what you're encouraging. 551 00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:03,152 Patricia, I don't want to talk about the war anymore. 552 00:32:06,524 --> 00:32:08,725 I'm sorry. 553 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,061 You don't have to be sorry. 554 00:32:12,096 --> 00:32:16,599 You're entitled to believe whatever you want. 555 00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:20,035 I just can't be with that. 556 00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,705 I'm not apologizing for what I believe in. 557 00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:25,475 I'm sorry for disappointing you. 558 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:04,046 Shit. 559 00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:10,069 Where the hell's 560 00:33:10,104 --> 00:33:12,054 that coming from? Keep your mouth shut. 561 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:13,790 Bravo Eight, Bravo Eight, we're under heavy fire. 562 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:14,791 We got VC in the tree line. 563 00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:15,958 Bravo Eight, what's your position? 564 00:33:15,993 --> 00:33:17,493 We need your position. 565 00:33:17,529 --> 00:33:19,145 Lewis, Coleman... let's go. 566 00:33:23,552 --> 00:33:25,101 Move out! 567 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,174 Medic! 568 00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:40,243 I need a medic over here! 569 00:34:43,048 --> 00:34:46,366 Stay out of here. 570 00:34:46,401 --> 00:34:47,533 Pull him out! 571 00:34:47,569 --> 00:34:48,901 Plug the wound! Plug the wound! 572 00:34:48,936 --> 00:34:51,571 Get him to sick bay and give him a three line of dopamine. 573 00:34:51,606 --> 00:34:53,623 Oh, my arm! 574 00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:56,025 About a hundred meters, I'm out of here. 575 00:34:57,495 --> 00:34:59,495 Stop bleeding. 576 00:35:09,507 --> 00:35:11,474 Pressure on the wound. 577 00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:12,808 Stand up... 578 00:35:12,843 --> 00:35:14,843 Keep him tight, keep him tight. 579 00:35:46,177 --> 00:35:47,643 I'd finally gotten 580 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,897 a glimpse of the... 581 00:35:50,932 --> 00:35:52,999 truth I was groping for. 582 00:35:55,003 --> 00:35:57,603 We couldn't win unless... 583 00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:06,261 I came home 584 00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:08,564 and John McNaughton had been killed 585 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,100 in a freak plane accident. 586 00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:13,703 He was... gone... 587 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:18,707 and my position in Washington and report with him. 588 00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:23,179 I was sick with hepatitis, depressed, out of touch 589 00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:27,750 and finally, I took my old job back at RAND. 590 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,053 And they asked me to be one of the authors 591 00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:33,823 of a history of our time in Vietnam 592 00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:36,426 that Robert McNamara had ordered for the Defense Department 593 00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:38,428 and put me to work 594 00:36:38,463 --> 00:36:41,230 writing an options paper for the White House. 595 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,302 I laid out for them... 596 00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:48,571 what had become so clear to me: 597 00:36:51,108 --> 00:36:55,277 that our situation was dire. 598 00:36:55,313 --> 00:36:57,513 And we had to admit our mistakes... 599 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,551 and change our strategy. 600 00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:09,058 Hello, Dan. 601 00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:10,893 Hello, Harry. 602 00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:12,561 Sorry about McNaughton. 603 00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:13,963 I know the two of you were close. 604 00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:17,900 Dan, where's that obnoxious 605 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:19,902 egomaniacal pain in the ass 606 00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:22,138 we all love so much? 607 00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:26,976 Dan, I'd like very much 608 00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:29,578 if you went to see the psychiatrist 609 00:37:29,614 --> 00:37:30,780 that I recommended. 610 00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:32,548 No big deal, just go see him. 611 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:34,516 Maybe he'll make it feel better. 612 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,886 Why didn't Kissinger include the options paper 613 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,520 in the packet he gave to Nixon? 614 00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:40,890 Well, maybe it was your conclusions he didn't care for. 615 00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:42,558 "Under the present course of action 616 00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:44,994 our goals in Vietnam are completely unattainable." 617 00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:46,595 That's a bitter pill to swallow, Dan. 618 00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:47,663 They should be grateful 619 00:37:47,698 --> 00:37:49,265 I'm telling them how it really is. 620 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:51,567 Dan, how could you expect to write something like that 621 00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:52,769 and get a positive reaction 622 00:37:52,804 --> 00:37:54,436 from Henry Kissinger? I don't. 623 00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:56,139 Send a copy to the Pentagon. 624 00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:57,506 More eyes that see it, the better. 625 00:37:57,541 --> 00:37:58,641 They're busy 626 00:37:58,676 --> 00:37:59,776 with the McNamara war study. 627 00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:00,777 It's done? 628 00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:01,710 That's what I hear. 629 00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:02,711 When do we get our copy? 630 00:38:02,747 --> 00:38:04,046 We're not going to get one. Why not? 631 00:38:04,082 --> 00:38:05,815 Because it's classified "Top Secret." 632 00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:06,983 That's bullshit. 633 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:08,818 It's a history of the war, lessons learned. 634 00:38:08,853 --> 00:38:09,986 I worked on it. 635 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,320 My name's on the damn thing. 636 00:38:11,355 --> 00:38:12,688 RAND must be able to get a copy. 637 00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:13,923 Well, don't hold your breath. 638 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:15,391 Nobody's being able to look at it. 639 00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:17,026 Congress doesn't even know it exists. 640 00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:18,727 Make a request for me, please, Harry. 641 00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:22,364 I'll try, but don't get your hopes up. 642 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,393 We believe, in face of the evidence 643 00:39:24,428 --> 00:39:27,429 the optimists who have been wrong in the past. 644 00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:30,132 To suggest we are on the edge of defeat 645 00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,801 is to yield to unreasonable pessimism. 646 00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:35,872 To say that we are mired in stalemate 647 00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:40,309 seems the only realistic, yet unsatisfactory conclusion. 648 00:39:40,345 --> 00:39:41,810 On the off chance 649 00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:44,446 the military and political analysts are right 650 00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:45,915 in the next few months 651 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,750 we must test the enemy's intentions 652 00:39:47,785 --> 00:39:49,485 in case this is indeed 653 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,889 his last big gasp before negotiations. 654 00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:55,557 But it is increasingly clear to this reporter 655 00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:58,594 that the only rational way now to think 656 00:39:58,629 --> 00:40:00,129 would be to negotiate 657 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:03,732 not as victors, but as an honorable people 658 00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:06,702 who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy 659 00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:09,205 and did the best they could. 660 00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:16,913 You wanted to see me? 661 00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:18,647 Yeah. 662 00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:21,317 Go to your office, close the door. 663 00:40:21,352 --> 00:40:22,952 The papers are on your desk. 664 00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:25,454 There's no record of them in the logs. 665 00:40:25,489 --> 00:40:27,456 Keep it under your hat. 666 00:40:27,491 --> 00:40:29,091 Here are the codes. 667 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:30,259 Thank you, Harry. 668 00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:31,294 Right. 669 00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:52,514 It wasn't what I expected... at all. 670 00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:55,318 Over 7,000 pages in 47 volumes 671 00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,420 what I had in front of me was nothing less 672 00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:59,555 than a chronology of our damnation. 673 00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:01,557 There were two histories of the war. 674 00:41:01,592 --> 00:41:04,327 One for the President, and one for the rest of us. 675 00:41:04,362 --> 00:41:06,695 The people were lied to about Vietnam 676 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:09,631 through four consecutive Presidential administrations. 677 00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:11,633 It wasn't one man. 678 00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:13,869 It was the Office itself. 679 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,308 Truman ignored letter after letter from Ho Chi Minh 680 00:41:19,344 --> 00:41:20,676 asking for help. 681 00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:23,446 He then financed the French with arms and tactical support 682 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,448 to fight the guerrillas. 683 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,450 Congress knew nothing. 684 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,852 Eisenhower agreed to split Vietnam in two 685 00:41:29,887 --> 00:41:32,455 helped to install a hopelessly corrupt regime in the South 686 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:33,789 rig elections 687 00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:36,359 and then send in the first US advisors to support it. 688 00:41:36,394 --> 00:41:38,560 Congress was in the dark. 689 00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:41,464 Kennedy made plans for our large-scale involvement 690 00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:43,466 as early as 1961. 691 00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,901 He authorized the overthrow of President Diem's regime 692 00:41:45,936 --> 00:41:47,636 and sat by while Diem was assassinated 693 00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:49,805 in the streets of Saigon. 694 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,008 And then came Johnson 695 00:41:52,043 --> 00:41:54,010 who used the attack in the Gulf of Tonkin-- 696 00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:55,644 which, according to these documents 697 00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:57,079 never even took place-- 698 00:41:57,115 --> 00:41:59,115 as an excuse to get us into the war 699 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:01,617 without a formal declaration from Congress. 700 00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,255 McNaughton secretly knew. 701 00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:08,590 He knew. 702 00:42:08,626 --> 00:42:11,260 And I was the one who'd been wrong. 703 00:42:11,295 --> 00:42:13,762 The experience of reading those pages 704 00:42:13,797 --> 00:42:15,764 altered my anatomy. 705 00:42:15,799 --> 00:42:18,000 With each word 706 00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:24,040 my faith, my trust, and my allegiance burned away. 707 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:30,046 And I was part of the lie. 708 00:42:35,019 --> 00:42:36,685 Even after reading the papers 709 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,954 I still wanted to believe in the system-- 710 00:42:38,989 --> 00:42:41,623 hope that its checks and balances would prevail. 711 00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,325 It could be fixed from within. 712 00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:45,327 It was clear access to the President 713 00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:46,695 was no longer an option. 714 00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:49,198 What I needed was the right ally in Congress. 715 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:50,766 Dr. Ellsberg. 716 00:42:50,801 --> 00:42:54,336 I appreciate you making time, Senator Fulbright. 717 00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:57,206 Please, have a seat. 718 00:42:57,241 --> 00:43:00,943 Senator, your views against the war are well known 719 00:43:00,978 --> 00:43:04,012 as is your sense of honor and integrity. 720 00:43:04,048 --> 00:43:08,317 Well, before you, uh, you grant me sainthood 721 00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:12,321 I supported the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution 722 00:43:12,356 --> 00:43:14,523 much to my regret now. 723 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:16,525 Senator, I need your help. 724 00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:19,195 I could only bring you a sampling. 725 00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:23,732 But in total, it is overwhelming proof 726 00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:28,036 of a conspiracy to wage war without the approval of Congress 727 00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:30,872 or the blessing of the nation. 728 00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:33,075 What is this? 729 00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,144 It's a study done by the Defense Department. 730 00:43:35,179 --> 00:43:36,212 It's an internal study. 731 00:43:36,247 --> 00:43:37,580 Yes. 732 00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,681 This is top secret, classified. 733 00:43:39,717 --> 00:43:42,151 I wasn't even aware of its existence. 734 00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,686 How did it come into your possession? 735 00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:49,191 Well, I... Is it stolen? 736 00:43:52,096 --> 00:43:55,197 I'll have my office contact the Secretary of Defense 737 00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:56,565 with an urgent request 738 00:43:56,601 --> 00:43:58,567 for a copy of this through proper channels. 739 00:43:58,603 --> 00:43:59,935 With all due respect, Senator 740 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,570 they will never honor your request. 741 00:44:01,606 --> 00:44:03,772 Classified designations are in place for a reason. 742 00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:05,374 I am not in a position to controvert 743 00:44:05,409 --> 00:44:06,975 the Defense Department's assessment. 744 00:44:07,011 --> 00:44:08,744 That's precisely the position you're in. 745 00:44:08,779 --> 00:44:10,946 You're Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee 746 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,483 and one of Congress's most outspoken critics of the war. 747 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:15,851 I do want to thank you 748 00:44:15,886 --> 00:44:17,953 for bringing this to my attention. 749 00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:19,054 It's classified 750 00:44:19,089 --> 00:44:20,756 because if it ever sees the light of day 751 00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:22,858 they could never explain the things they've done. 752 00:44:22,893 --> 00:44:24,092 The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution 753 00:44:24,128 --> 00:44:26,128 was drafted months before the supposed attacks. 754 00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:28,497 They created the skirmish to circumvent your authority. 755 00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:29,632 Dr. Ellsberg... 756 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:30,633 I was there. 757 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,900 I saw young Americans die. 758 00:44:31,935 --> 00:44:32,934 I saw Vietnamese die. 759 00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:34,436 I saw the damage to them, to us 760 00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:36,605 because of what is contained in this document. 761 00:44:36,641 --> 00:44:37,839 The evidence is all here. 762 00:44:37,875 --> 00:44:39,941 Our presidents knew this war was unwinnable 763 00:44:39,977 --> 00:44:41,009 and they kept us in it 764 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,844 because no one, Republican or Democrat 765 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,647 wanted to be the first to lose a war. 766 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:46,549 And it's going to go on and on and on 767 00:44:46,584 --> 00:44:48,584 until someone in your position reads this 768 00:44:48,619 --> 00:44:51,587 acknowledges it and stands up and says we've been lied to. 769 00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:53,589 We are not on the wrong side in Vietnam. 770 00:44:53,624 --> 00:44:54,723 We are the wrong side. 771 00:44:54,758 --> 00:45:00,162 Do you realize that you're asking me-- 772 00:45:00,198 --> 00:45:04,667 a United States senator-- to break the law? 773 00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:08,003 To expose state secrets? 774 00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:14,042 I'm sorry. I can't help you. 775 00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:23,385 Right. 776 00:45:23,421 --> 00:45:24,687 Thank you for your time. 777 00:45:38,436 --> 00:45:40,068 I tried others. 778 00:45:40,104 --> 00:45:42,571 I failed. 779 00:45:42,607 --> 00:45:44,306 I was finally ready to do 780 00:45:44,342 --> 00:45:47,909 what I should have done a long time before: give up. 781 00:45:47,945 --> 00:45:51,380 Mmm. Eggs scrambled, eggs over easy 782 00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:55,050 sunny-side up, poached-- that's a big decision, Ellsberg. 783 00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:57,853 Russo. Jesus, where the hell have you been? 784 00:45:57,888 --> 00:45:59,688 Oh, I've been... I've been organizing. 785 00:45:59,723 --> 00:46:01,023 Getting the word out. 786 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,558 What word would that be? 787 00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:03,725 Peace. 788 00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:07,463 Hey, you know what? 789 00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:09,765 We're, we're having a party tonight. 790 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,999 You should come by. 791 00:46:11,035 --> 00:46:13,369 Bring whoever-- your latest conquest. 792 00:46:13,404 --> 00:46:15,971 Swedish stewardess, nurse... 793 00:46:16,006 --> 00:46:17,939 Uh, whatever happened to that one in Saigon-- 794 00:46:17,975 --> 00:46:19,041 the American girl? 795 00:46:21,345 --> 00:46:22,944 Uh, Patricia Marx? 796 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,713 Yeah. I don't know. 797 00:46:31,088 --> 00:46:32,921 That's cool. I can dig that. 798 00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:34,323 Whoever, Dan. 799 00:46:34,358 --> 00:46:36,792 Excuse me, ma'am. Do you got a pen on you? 800 00:46:36,827 --> 00:46:38,927 Thank you very much. 801 00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:40,996 Malibu. 802 00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:43,632 Where the living is easy. 803 00:46:43,668 --> 00:46:44,667 Thank you. 804 00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:46,202 It's good to see you, Tony. 805 00:46:46,237 --> 00:46:47,336 See you there? 806 00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:49,071 Right on. 807 00:46:49,106 --> 00:46:50,239 Dan Ellsberg. 808 00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:15,831 Hi! 809 00:48:38,816 --> 00:48:41,317 Never thought I'd see that look on your face. 810 00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:44,520 What? 811 00:48:44,555 --> 00:48:47,289 Doubt. 812 00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:43,612 I've tried every liberal in Congress. 813 00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:45,080 Fulbright, McGovern, Pete McCloskey. 814 00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:47,249 Tried to get them read into the Congressional Record. 815 00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:48,950 I tried the Institute for Policy Studies. 816 00:49:48,986 --> 00:49:50,719 Is there anyone who hasn't seen this stuff? 817 00:49:50,755 --> 00:49:51,953 Am I the only one? Kissinger. 818 00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,389 Even Kissinger. 819 00:49:53,424 --> 00:49:55,624 We did some sort of weird dance at Harvard 820 00:49:55,659 --> 00:49:58,460 and we've been doing some sort of weird dance ever since. 821 00:49:58,496 --> 00:49:59,528 No one will touch it. 822 00:49:59,563 --> 00:50:00,662 "No one will touch it." 823 00:50:00,698 --> 00:50:02,464 Just hire a friggin' helicopter, Dan 824 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,867 and drop them out over Washington and New York. 825 00:50:04,902 --> 00:50:06,101 Bring it to the people, man. 826 00:50:06,136 --> 00:50:08,604 Tony, quit talking to me like I'm some kind of radical. 827 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:09,772 Bring them to him. 828 00:50:09,807 --> 00:50:11,673 Bring them to them. Bring them to her. 829 00:50:11,709 --> 00:50:13,341 Leak them to the paper of record. 830 00:50:13,377 --> 00:50:14,443 The New York Times. 831 00:50:14,478 --> 00:50:16,612 You think I haven't thought of that? 832 00:50:18,482 --> 00:50:20,582 You're insane, my friend. 833 00:50:20,618 --> 00:50:21,950 It's classified. 834 00:50:21,985 --> 00:50:23,552 We're talking about ending the war, Dan. 835 00:50:23,587 --> 00:50:26,922 It's treason. 836 00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:54,716 Hi, everybody. 837 00:50:54,752 --> 00:50:57,753 I want to talk for a few minutes about how I love my country. 838 00:51:02,493 --> 00:51:03,892 My name's Randy Kehler. 839 00:51:03,928 --> 00:51:07,329 I'm a graduate of Exeter Academy and Harvard University. 840 00:51:07,364 --> 00:51:09,998 This country depends on people with my background 841 00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:13,234 to become CEOs of corporations, uh, serve in public office 842 00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:16,004 and make breakthroughs in both medicine and science. 843 00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:17,372 My country 844 00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,808 depends on people like me to lead it 845 00:51:19,844 --> 00:51:22,811 and that's exactly what I believe I'm doing. 846 00:51:22,847 --> 00:51:25,914 In a few days' time, I will be going to jail. 847 00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:27,415 Like many of you 848 00:51:27,451 --> 00:51:30,418 I was drafted and faced a choice 849 00:51:30,454 --> 00:51:33,489 and I don't feel that our cause in Vietnam is a just one 850 00:51:33,524 --> 00:51:34,890 and I won't fight there. 851 00:51:39,563 --> 00:51:41,196 But I am... 852 00:51:42,366 --> 00:51:43,799 But I am an American 853 00:51:43,834 --> 00:51:47,268 and I refuse to run to safety in another country 854 00:51:47,304 --> 00:51:50,506 nor will I hide behind the label "conscientious objector" 855 00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:52,808 where I may be dismissed as a dilettante 856 00:51:52,843 --> 00:51:54,209 with a passing ideology. 857 00:51:54,244 --> 00:51:55,777 I feel that the best way-- 858 00:51:55,813 --> 00:51:57,980 the only way I can serve my country-- 859 00:51:58,015 --> 00:51:59,447 is to sacrifice myself. 860 00:52:01,485 --> 00:52:03,785 When the day comes that I am released from prison 861 00:52:03,821 --> 00:52:05,086 I'll wear a permanent mark. 862 00:52:05,122 --> 00:52:07,422 Never will I be a CEO 863 00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:10,492 never will I serve in office 864 00:52:10,528 --> 00:52:13,061 and never again will I be trusted by many. 865 00:52:17,001 --> 00:52:20,301 But I'm willing to surrender these things. 866 00:52:20,337 --> 00:52:23,204 That permanent mark fixed upon me... 867 00:52:26,209 --> 00:52:28,810 I will wear it with pride. 868 00:53:40,751 --> 00:53:45,988 We were eating our young, and I realized that at any cost 869 00:53:46,023 --> 00:53:49,491 the country needed to know the truth. 870 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:56,631 I began to do what I'd never wanted to do. 871 00:53:56,666 --> 00:53:58,633 The doors were open 24 hours a day 872 00:53:58,668 --> 00:54:00,335 and I developed a routine. 873 00:54:00,370 --> 00:54:04,139 Around midnight I'd leave RAND with a couple hundred pages. 874 00:54:04,174 --> 00:54:05,640 They knew me. 875 00:54:05,675 --> 00:54:06,975 I was one of them. 876 00:54:34,171 --> 00:54:36,104 Tony Russo's girlfriend, Lynda 877 00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:39,274 let me use the Xerox machine at her advertising agency 878 00:54:39,309 --> 00:54:40,608 in West Hollywood. 879 00:54:40,644 --> 00:54:44,112 I'd copy from 1:00 to 4:00 in the morning 880 00:54:44,148 --> 00:54:46,281 sleep for an hour or two 881 00:54:46,316 --> 00:54:48,250 and have them back in the safe 882 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,618 before anyone knew they were missing. 883 00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:53,021 It was a seven-days-a-week operation. 884 00:54:53,056 --> 00:54:55,556 Russo assisted me whenever he could. 885 00:55:04,668 --> 00:55:06,134 This is stupid. 886 00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:08,536 We don't see you for months, and this is all we do? 887 00:55:08,571 --> 00:55:09,905 Why don't you just get new papers 888 00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:11,506 without all the stamps all over them? 889 00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:20,715 Do you know what "top secret" means? 890 00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:22,184 Don't tell Mom? 891 00:55:22,219 --> 00:55:24,485 Hold on. 892 00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:27,689 You know, I don't want either of you 893 00:55:27,724 --> 00:55:29,791 ever to... lie for me. 894 00:55:29,827 --> 00:55:31,159 Not to Mom or anybody else. 895 00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:32,393 Okay. 896 00:55:34,031 --> 00:55:35,363 Okay? 897 00:55:37,935 --> 00:55:40,335 Let's get out of here. 898 00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:41,837 I'll take this stuff. 899 00:55:41,872 --> 00:55:43,705 You guys throw out this other junk. 900 00:55:55,252 --> 00:55:57,752 It took months. 901 00:55:57,787 --> 00:56:00,288 I spent my nights with sunspots in my eyes 902 00:56:00,324 --> 00:56:01,957 from the copier's flash 903 00:56:01,992 --> 00:56:05,393 and my days sleepwalking on a tightrope. 904 00:56:05,428 --> 00:56:08,663 It took over my life. 905 00:57:09,659 --> 00:57:11,259 All right, what are you doing up there? 906 00:57:11,295 --> 00:57:13,594 I'm just doing some copying. 907 00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:14,796 At nighttime 908 00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:16,597 with the children cutting "Top Secret" 909 00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:17,598 off of pages? 910 00:57:17,634 --> 00:57:18,599 I spoke to Mary. 911 00:57:18,635 --> 00:57:20,168 I want the children out of this. 912 00:57:20,203 --> 00:57:22,470 I will not have them being part of some crime. 913 00:57:22,505 --> 00:57:24,139 Look, you want to be a hero 914 00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:25,473 be a hero on your own time. 915 00:57:25,508 --> 00:57:26,908 I'm not trying to be a hero. 916 00:57:26,944 --> 00:57:28,944 I want my children to know their father. 917 00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,479 Know what he thinks, what he believes. 918 00:57:31,514 --> 00:57:33,648 I want them to know about their country that he loves 919 00:57:33,683 --> 00:57:34,816 and hopes they will as well. 920 00:57:34,851 --> 00:57:35,817 That's important. 921 00:57:35,852 --> 00:57:36,818 Important? 922 00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:38,553 You want to hear important? 923 00:57:38,588 --> 00:57:40,655 You're arrested, you're in court 924 00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:43,325 and they call on your son or your daughter 925 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,327 to testify against you! 926 00:57:45,362 --> 00:57:47,662 They won't tell lies, you know. 927 00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,331 They're going to tell the truth. 928 00:57:49,366 --> 00:57:51,166 I can only hope they tell the truth 929 00:57:51,201 --> 00:57:53,201 and love them the best way that I can. 930 00:57:53,236 --> 00:57:57,038 Only you could use the word "love" in a conversation 931 00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,773 about breaking the law. 932 00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,508 What the hell happened to you? 933 00:58:17,827 --> 00:58:19,194 Hello? 934 00:58:21,664 --> 00:58:23,298 Patricia, it's Daniel. 935 00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:26,468 Is everything okay? 936 00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:29,504 : Everything's fine. 937 00:58:32,842 --> 00:58:34,309 We were wrong. 938 00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:35,910 I was wrong. 939 00:58:35,945 --> 00:58:38,313 I need your help. 940 00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:49,224 Good night, Dan. 941 00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:09,477 Dan, these men are with the FBI. 942 00:59:09,513 --> 00:59:11,012 They have some questions for you. 943 00:59:11,048 --> 00:59:12,713 Of course. How can I help? 944 00:59:12,749 --> 00:59:16,551 Do you mind showing us and Dr. Rowen 945 00:59:16,586 --> 00:59:17,952 RAND's copy of the Vietnam study? 946 00:59:17,987 --> 00:59:19,387 Well, it's locked up in the safe. 947 00:59:19,423 --> 00:59:21,156 Would you open the safe, please? 948 00:59:21,191 --> 00:59:24,992 Sure, as long as you have the proper security clearance. 949 00:59:32,035 --> 00:59:35,470 They're all here. 950 00:59:35,505 --> 00:59:36,804 At any point, Dr. Ellsberg 951 00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:39,474 have these documents been removed from the premises? 952 00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:40,975 That's against RAND policy. 953 00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:43,010 Have you ever photographed these documents 954 00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:44,579 or any other sensitive materials? 955 00:59:44,614 --> 00:59:46,147 That's also against RAND policy. 956 00:59:46,183 --> 00:59:47,982 Answer the question, please. 957 00:59:48,017 --> 00:59:50,251 The answer is no. 958 00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:56,591 We'll be in touch. 959 01:00:03,366 --> 01:00:06,134 Daniel, the FBI says they have information 960 01:00:06,169 --> 01:00:07,668 that you're shopping the papers. 961 01:00:07,704 --> 01:00:09,704 Is that true? 962 01:00:10,873 --> 01:00:12,240 Daniel... 963 01:00:12,275 --> 01:00:14,175 those papers were given to you to read. 964 01:00:14,211 --> 01:00:15,310 Whatever your feelings 965 01:00:15,345 --> 01:00:16,978 whatever your thoughts about them 966 01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:18,480 they were to stay inside RAND. 967 01:00:18,515 --> 01:00:19,780 This is bigger than RAND. 968 01:00:19,816 --> 01:00:20,781 I've read it. 969 01:00:20,817 --> 01:00:22,083 7,000 pages, 47 volumes. 970 01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:23,851 Some of that I wrote myself. 971 01:00:23,886 --> 01:00:25,320 That doesn't give you the right 972 01:00:25,355 --> 01:00:26,321 of ownership, Dan. 973 01:00:26,356 --> 01:00:27,922 Are you shopping the papers? 974 01:00:27,957 --> 01:00:29,524 Have you read them, Harry? 975 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:30,758 You should. 976 01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:33,194 We've lied for years. 977 01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:34,529 For decades. 978 01:00:34,564 --> 01:00:37,031 To each other, the country, the Vietnamese. 979 01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:39,100 The policymakers have. The presidents have. 980 01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:40,701 We all have, since the beginning. 981 01:00:40,737 --> 01:00:42,203 That's what the papers are about. 982 01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:44,038 The history of lies. 983 01:00:44,073 --> 01:00:45,607 But it's all right for you to lie 984 01:00:45,642 --> 01:00:47,875 because you're serving some high moral purpose. 985 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:49,710 Let me tell you something, Dan. 986 01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:51,479 All lies are betrayal. 987 01:00:51,515 --> 01:00:52,680 All of them. 988 01:00:52,715 --> 01:00:55,350 If you've gone outside RAND, if you betrayed that trust 989 01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:57,685 you're going to bring down a lot of good people. 990 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,388 I find that unconscionable and unforgivable. 991 01:01:00,423 --> 01:01:02,056 So does this war. Yeah, right. 992 01:01:02,091 --> 01:01:03,458 You've always said you wanted 993 01:01:03,493 --> 01:01:05,326 to serve the president and the country. 994 01:01:05,362 --> 01:01:06,827 I don't believe it for a minute. 995 01:01:06,863 --> 01:01:08,530 You just wanted to serve yourself. 996 01:01:12,035 --> 01:01:14,802 Is that job offer from MIT still on the table? 997 01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:21,042 Take it. 998 01:01:46,603 --> 01:01:48,369 Your door was open. 999 01:01:52,509 --> 01:01:54,175 You want to help me with my bags? 1000 01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:55,843 They're outside the front door. 1001 01:02:28,378 --> 01:02:30,378 What are you doing? 1002 01:02:34,884 --> 01:02:36,384 Well... 1003 01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:39,654 ...there seems to be an elephant in the room with us. 1004 01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:41,922 You've got nearly 7,000 pages to read. 1005 01:02:41,958 --> 01:02:43,157 Did you read them all? 1006 01:02:43,192 --> 01:02:44,191 Twice. 1007 01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:46,193 Mm. 1008 01:02:46,229 --> 01:02:49,330 Well, I figure with a lot of coffee... 1009 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,369 ...and a lot of making love... 1010 01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,771 I will, too. 1011 01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,642 Wake me up when you get to the lovemaking part. 1012 01:03:01,678 --> 01:03:03,811 Yeah. 1013 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,027 This war was wrong from the start 1014 01:03:20,062 --> 01:03:21,863 and it just keeps growing exponentially. 1015 01:03:21,898 --> 01:03:24,365 It's not about the war; it's not about Vietnam. 1016 01:03:24,401 --> 01:03:26,033 It's never been about Vietnam. 1017 01:03:26,068 --> 01:03:28,202 It's always been about domestic politics. 1018 01:03:28,237 --> 01:03:30,371 How to stay in office, win the election. 1019 01:03:30,407 --> 01:03:31,873 The fear has always been 1020 01:03:31,908 --> 01:03:33,875 if you lose there, you lose here. 1021 01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:35,943 So it's escalating, just like '64. 1022 01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:38,880 Nixon's quadrupled the number of bombing sorties 1023 01:03:38,915 --> 01:03:40,515 and crossed into Cambodia. 1024 01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:44,519 Dan, this administration has nothing to gain 1025 01:03:44,554 --> 01:03:48,956 and everything to lose if these papers come out. 1026 01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:51,559 Peace isn't a political goal. 1027 01:03:51,594 --> 01:03:53,227 It's a human goal. 1028 01:03:56,566 --> 01:03:59,166 Just being around me puts you at risk, Patricia. 1029 01:03:59,201 --> 01:04:01,201 I know. 1030 01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:06,206 I'm not going anywhere. 1031 01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:11,045 Marry me. 1032 01:04:29,466 --> 01:04:32,800 Albert Spear, Hitler's chief engineer and architect 1033 01:04:32,836 --> 01:04:34,669 manufactured the munitions. 1034 01:04:34,704 --> 01:04:38,405 He was the only Nazi tried at Nuremberg to admit his guilt 1035 01:04:38,441 --> 01:04:39,740 for his complicity 1036 01:04:39,776 --> 01:04:42,343 for taking part in the creation of a... 1037 01:04:42,378 --> 01:04:44,812 depraved and evil apparatus. 1038 01:04:44,848 --> 01:04:48,048 He acknowledged he was just as guilty 1039 01:04:48,084 --> 01:04:52,419 as the men who used the system to commit genocide. 1040 01:04:52,455 --> 01:04:57,091 I knew firsthand how we got into this war. 1041 01:04:57,126 --> 01:05:02,129 I knew firsthand our prospects were hopeless 1042 01:05:02,164 --> 01:05:06,066 and I knew it was not going to end. 1043 01:05:23,953 --> 01:05:26,253 New York Times, Washington Desk. 1044 01:05:26,289 --> 01:05:28,289 Uh, Neil Sheehan. 1045 01:05:31,594 --> 01:05:33,127 Sheehan. 1046 01:05:34,497 --> 01:05:36,097 Hello? 1047 01:05:37,366 --> 01:05:39,967 Who is this? 1048 01:05:42,906 --> 01:05:44,305 This is Daniel Ellsberg. 1049 01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:45,472 A few years ago you said 1050 01:05:45,508 --> 01:05:47,274 if I ever had a good story, you'd write it. 1051 01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:48,676 Yeah, I remember. 1052 01:05:51,314 --> 01:05:52,980 I've got one. 1053 01:05:54,784 --> 01:05:57,418 What do you know about the Pentagon's war study? 1054 01:05:57,453 --> 01:05:59,821 Nothing. No one's seen it. 1055 01:05:59,856 --> 01:06:02,190 That could change. 1056 01:06:16,405 --> 01:06:17,972 You realize I can't make any commitment 1057 01:06:18,007 --> 01:06:19,707 that we'll publish this until I've read it 1058 01:06:19,743 --> 01:06:20,808 and my editors have read... 1059 01:06:20,844 --> 01:06:21,809 How long will that take? 1060 01:06:21,845 --> 01:06:23,144 There's no telling. 1061 01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:24,812 We'll have to confirm its authenticity... 1062 01:06:24,848 --> 01:06:25,880 They're authentic. 1063 01:06:25,915 --> 01:06:28,149 ...merits, and there still could be some resistance. 1064 01:06:28,184 --> 01:06:29,851 Resistance? On what grounds? 1065 01:06:29,886 --> 01:06:31,685 I mean, this incomprehensible. 1066 01:06:31,721 --> 01:06:33,454 I mean, this is a huge story. 1067 01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:35,456 These are classified internal documents 1068 01:06:35,491 --> 01:06:36,523 leaked in a time of war. 1069 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,060 An undeclared, endless, sickening killing war. 1070 01:06:39,095 --> 01:06:40,394 That is not the point. 1071 01:06:40,429 --> 01:06:41,695 That is the point. 1072 01:06:54,177 --> 01:06:55,509 Look, I'm just warning you 1073 01:06:55,544 --> 01:06:57,245 there are bound to be some debate 1074 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,248 over the legality and wisdom of going to press with this. 1075 01:07:00,283 --> 01:07:01,482 Good, there should be debate-- 1076 01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:03,751 about the legality and the wisdom of what it says in them. 1077 01:07:06,389 --> 01:07:08,823 Complete, the study is 47 volumes. 1078 01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:09,991 There's 43 upstairs. 1079 01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:11,358 I've held back anything 1080 01:07:11,394 --> 01:07:13,227 that includes secret codification 1081 01:07:13,263 --> 01:07:15,462 troop positions, and any other material 1082 01:07:15,498 --> 01:07:17,899 that I feel compromises national security. 1083 01:07:17,934 --> 01:07:19,801 You mind if I ask you a question? 1084 01:07:19,836 --> 01:07:22,736 What do you want out of all this? 1085 01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:26,941 I want to get in the way of the bombing and killing. 1086 01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:20,527 Patricia? 1087 01:08:20,563 --> 01:08:21,896 I'm here. 1088 01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:26,734 Nixon danced last night at Tricia's wedding. 1089 01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:28,635 Gosh, that's a scary thought. 1090 01:08:28,671 --> 01:08:30,371 Here's another funny story 1091 01:08:30,406 --> 01:08:32,706 you might be interested in. 1092 01:08:35,011 --> 01:08:36,710 Oh, my gosh... 1093 01:08:38,147 --> 01:08:39,613 I don't believe it. 1094 01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:44,718 There's no going back now. 1095 01:08:44,754 --> 01:08:47,721 Well, somebody had to tell the truth. 1096 01:08:59,936 --> 01:09:02,270 Jesus Christ! 1097 01:09:02,305 --> 01:09:04,372 ...news was overshadowed 1098 01:09:04,407 --> 01:09:06,640 by the appearance in today's New York Times 1099 01:09:06,675 --> 01:09:08,175 of an apparently covert study 1100 01:09:08,211 --> 01:09:10,111 outlining our involvement in Vietnam. 1101 01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:12,113 No reaction as of yet from the White House... 1102 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,281 All right! 1103 01:09:13,316 --> 01:09:16,250 That's the way to do it! 1104 01:09:18,354 --> 01:09:21,288 The New York Times is finished at the White House. 1105 01:09:21,324 --> 01:09:23,557 We can't have any more of these goddamn leaks. 1106 01:09:23,592 --> 01:09:24,825 Some kind of special unit 1107 01:09:24,861 --> 01:09:26,626 should be put together to see to it. 1108 01:09:26,662 --> 01:09:27,962 Plumbers. 1109 01:09:27,997 --> 01:09:29,696 To fix the leaks. 1110 01:09:29,732 --> 01:09:32,432 Where does the president want us to go from here? 1111 01:09:32,468 --> 01:09:34,869 The Times is preparing the next installment 1112 01:09:34,904 --> 01:09:36,070 as we speak. 1113 01:09:36,105 --> 01:09:38,105 And we cannot allow that to happen. 1114 01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:41,175 I can ask the Times to voluntarily cease and desist 1115 01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:42,709 from publication. 1116 01:09:42,745 --> 01:09:46,313 If they refuse, we'll take the gloves off. 1117 01:09:46,349 --> 01:09:49,049 Justice can enjoin them from publishing further. 1118 01:09:49,085 --> 01:09:50,384 Stop the presses? 1119 01:09:50,419 --> 01:09:52,719 Is that done? Has that ever been done? 1120 01:09:54,656 --> 01:09:55,990 No. 1121 01:09:59,395 --> 01:10:01,395 Set it in motion. 1122 01:10:02,698 --> 01:10:05,032 Where did the Times get the Pentagon study? 1123 01:10:05,067 --> 01:10:06,867 The FBI has a suspect. 1124 01:10:06,903 --> 01:10:08,468 Daniel Ellsberg. 1125 01:10:08,504 --> 01:10:09,503 Who is he? 1126 01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:10,570 They're working on it. 1127 01:10:10,606 --> 01:10:12,239 Well, find out and neutralize him. 1128 01:10:13,675 --> 01:10:14,942 Take right. 1129 01:10:14,977 --> 01:10:16,510 Got it. 1130 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:18,678 Bedroom's clear. 1131 01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:21,382 Kitchen's clear. 1132 01:10:23,419 --> 01:10:25,185 Clear. 1133 01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:26,220 Ellsberg's gone. 1134 01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:27,454 The place is empty. 1135 01:10:31,727 --> 01:10:32,960 Here's the last one. 1136 01:10:44,873 --> 01:10:47,541 You know, you guys are the first people ever to knock. 1137 01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:49,243 May we come in, Mr. Russo? 1138 01:10:49,278 --> 01:10:52,012 No, no, no. I'll come out. 1139 01:10:53,715 --> 01:10:57,851 We want to talk to you about Daniel Ellsberg. 1140 01:10:57,886 --> 01:11:01,021 Well, I don't wish to talk to you. 1141 01:11:01,057 --> 01:11:03,057 Do you have a lawyer? 1142 01:11:04,226 --> 01:11:06,994 You better get one. 1143 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:15,302 Carol Ellsberg? 1144 01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:30,417 Did you know that your Top Secret Control Officer 1145 01:11:30,453 --> 01:11:31,718 was sleeping with him? 1146 01:11:31,753 --> 01:11:33,253 That's none of my business. 1147 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:36,190 It is if she was involved in copy and distribution. 1148 01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:38,658 She had absolutely nothing to do with this. 1149 01:11:38,694 --> 01:11:41,028 And what did you have to do with it? 1150 01:11:41,063 --> 01:11:42,329 Nothing whatsoever. 1151 01:11:42,365 --> 01:11:44,231 Excuse me. 1152 01:11:49,271 --> 01:11:52,172 The Times declined our request to cease and desist. 1153 01:11:52,208 --> 01:11:54,908 Put a muzzle on the sons of bitches. 1154 01:11:54,943 --> 01:11:56,643 What about Ellsberg? 1155 01:11:56,678 --> 01:11:59,380 Kissinger thinks he's brilliant, but unbalanced. 1156 01:11:59,415 --> 01:12:01,148 It's obvious that he's flipped. 1157 01:12:01,183 --> 01:12:02,449 From hawk to peacenik. 1158 01:12:02,485 --> 01:12:04,118 They think it could be drugs. 1159 01:12:04,153 --> 01:12:05,319 Is he alone in this? 1160 01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:07,854 He married a very rich girl, Patricia Marx-- 1161 01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:08,855 Marx Toy Company. 1162 01:12:08,891 --> 01:12:10,290 Hoover knows her father. 1163 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,659 Christ! No wonder the FBI can't find him. 1164 01:12:12,694 --> 01:12:14,328 They're probably not looking. 1165 01:12:14,363 --> 01:12:16,463 Well, they say he's gone underground. 1166 01:12:16,499 --> 01:12:18,565 Could he be talking to the Russians? 1167 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,667 Chinese? 1168 01:12:20,702 --> 01:12:22,136 How much does he know? 1169 01:12:22,171 --> 01:12:24,804 How badly can the son of a bitch hurt us? 1170 01:12:26,742 --> 01:12:28,642 We should've never have gone to press 1171 01:12:28,677 --> 01:12:30,077 with this in the first place. 1172 01:12:30,112 --> 01:12:32,546 For crying out loud, it's the First Amendment 1173 01:12:32,581 --> 01:12:34,515 to the Constitution of the United States! 1174 01:12:39,188 --> 01:12:40,154 Hello? 1175 01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:41,221 Dan, it's Sheehan. Yeah. 1176 01:12:41,257 --> 01:12:43,257 We're pulling the next segment on the papers. 1177 01:12:43,292 --> 01:12:44,491 What are you talking about? 1178 01:12:44,527 --> 01:12:46,260 It's coming directly from the Oval Office. 1179 01:12:46,295 --> 01:12:47,794 They're not going to arrest the entire staff 1180 01:12:47,829 --> 01:12:49,396 of The New York Times. Just keep printing it. 1181 01:12:49,432 --> 01:12:50,564 You're not listening to me, Dan. 1182 01:12:50,599 --> 01:12:51,665 They stopped the presses. 1183 01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:53,767 Well, they did. That's illegal. They can't do that. 1184 01:12:53,802 --> 01:12:55,269 We've been enjoined for prior restraint. 1185 01:12:55,304 --> 01:12:56,270 We've pulled the story. 1186 01:12:56,305 --> 01:12:58,105 Nixon had Mitchell claim Print it anyway! 1187 01:12:58,140 --> 01:13:00,207 that publication is a grave threat to national security. 1188 01:13:00,242 --> 01:13:01,841 Bullshit! Nixon and Mitchell are a goddamn threat 1189 01:13:01,877 --> 01:13:02,943 to national security. 1190 01:13:02,978 --> 01:13:04,844 Don't tell me that! There's nothing we can do! 1191 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,580 We can't do it! You can print the story! 1192 01:13:06,615 --> 01:13:07,214 It's over, Dan! 1193 01:13:07,249 --> 01:13:08,082 It's not over! 1194 01:13:08,117 --> 01:13:09,116 You'll have to find another way 1195 01:13:09,151 --> 01:13:10,117 to get them out. 1196 01:13:10,152 --> 01:13:11,318 Sheehan! 1197 01:13:11,353 --> 01:13:12,319 Wait... 1198 01:13:12,354 --> 01:13:13,454 Shit! 1199 01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:19,560 Shit. 1200 01:13:25,901 --> 01:13:27,367 What are you doing? 1201 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:29,836 Excuse me! What are you doing?! 1202 01:13:50,859 --> 01:13:52,626 ...allied forces in Vietnam... 1203 01:13:52,661 --> 01:13:55,329 Dan, you've been on every news channel. 1204 01:13:55,364 --> 01:13:58,265 They're calling them the "Pentagon Papers" 1205 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,701 and the FBI has named you as the probable source. 1206 01:14:01,737 --> 01:14:03,504 The manhunt's nationwide. 1207 01:14:03,539 --> 01:14:05,739 They know everything about you. 1208 01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:07,174 They know what school you went to 1209 01:14:07,209 --> 01:14:08,808 how long you were there, your family. 1210 01:14:08,844 --> 01:14:10,010 They know about me... 1211 01:14:10,045 --> 01:14:12,279 Nixon got a court order enjoining The New York Times 1212 01:14:12,314 --> 01:14:13,280 to cease publication. 1213 01:14:13,315 --> 01:14:14,281 He did what? 1214 01:14:14,316 --> 01:14:15,315 The Times pulled the story. 1215 01:14:15,351 --> 01:14:16,850 I called The Washington Post. 1216 01:14:16,885 --> 01:14:18,585 They're flying up to get a copy. 1217 01:14:18,621 --> 01:14:20,254 Will they be able to go to press 1218 01:14:20,289 --> 01:14:22,356 after what's happened to the Times? 1219 01:14:22,391 --> 01:14:23,823 I don't know. 1220 01:14:23,859 --> 01:14:25,259 What if they don't? 1221 01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:26,260 I don't know. 1222 01:14:26,295 --> 01:14:27,827 I mean, how can they? 1223 01:14:27,863 --> 01:14:30,030 If Nixon can stop the Times... 1224 01:14:30,065 --> 01:14:34,234 I don't know, Patricia! I don't know! 1225 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:36,670 ...with Saigon the main objective. 1226 01:14:39,408 --> 01:14:41,341 We're not just going to give up. 1227 01:14:41,377 --> 01:14:42,809 ...a few major battles. 1228 01:14:42,844 --> 01:14:45,779 The third of six days of action has been heavy. 1229 01:14:45,814 --> 01:14:48,014 The allies estimate they have killed 1230 01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:50,784 more than 6,000 enemy troops in that period. 1231 01:14:50,819 --> 01:14:53,654 American casualties are put at 360 dead 1232 01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:55,822 and more than 1,000 wounded. 1233 01:14:55,857 --> 01:14:58,758 I didn't say anything about giving up. 1234 01:14:58,794 --> 01:15:01,628 ...South Vietnamese have been killed. 1235 01:15:01,664 --> 01:15:03,664 Good evening. Publication of parts 1236 01:15:03,699 --> 01:15:05,832 of the 47-volume, top secret history 1237 01:15:05,867 --> 01:15:07,867 of American involvement in Vietnam 1238 01:15:07,903 --> 01:15:10,837 has triggered a major constitutional legal battle 1239 01:15:10,872 --> 01:15:13,807 over government secrecy and freedom of the press. 1240 01:15:13,842 --> 01:15:16,677 The man most frequently suggested as the source 1241 01:15:16,712 --> 01:15:19,646 for the Pentagon documents is Daniel Ellsberg, 40 1242 01:15:19,682 --> 01:15:22,683 PhD with honors, one-time Marine, now a researcher 1243 01:15:22,718 --> 01:15:25,151 at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 1244 01:15:25,187 --> 01:15:28,322 Ellsberg was a Pentagon and State Department analyst 1245 01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:29,989 during the Vietnam buildup. 1246 01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:32,459 Later, he worked on the now-controversial 1247 01:15:32,494 --> 01:15:34,094 Pentagon study of the war. 1248 01:15:34,129 --> 01:15:37,364 Perhaps because of his clearly delicate legal position 1249 01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:39,966 he will not talk right now of whatever part 1250 01:15:40,001 --> 01:15:42,869 he played in the release of the secret documents 1251 01:15:42,904 --> 01:15:44,070 but he talks freely 1252 01:15:44,106 --> 01:15:46,840 of what he hopes their release will accomplish 1253 01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:49,075 and what turned him from hawk to dove 1254 01:15:49,111 --> 01:15:52,312 such as what he believes was official coldheartedness 1255 01:15:52,348 --> 01:15:54,715 towards civilian casualties in the war. 1256 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:58,752 Fact is, in the seven to 10,000 pages of this study 1257 01:15:58,787 --> 01:16:01,755 I don't think there is a line in them 1258 01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:05,925 that contains an estimate of the likely impact 1259 01:16:05,961 --> 01:16:08,695 of our policy on the overall causalities 1260 01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,065 among the Vietnamese, the refugees to be caused... 1261 01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,268 I'll get some men over to CBS right away. 1262 01:16:14,303 --> 01:16:15,869 It won't do any good. 1263 01:16:15,904 --> 01:16:17,971 They're doing the interview at some secret location. 1264 01:16:18,006 --> 01:16:20,774 My father had a favorite line in the Bible 1265 01:16:20,809 --> 01:16:23,610 which I used to hear a great deal when I was a kid. 1266 01:16:23,646 --> 01:16:26,079 "The truth shall make you free." 1267 01:16:26,114 --> 01:16:28,715 And I hope that the truth that's out now 1268 01:16:28,751 --> 01:16:33,487 that's out of the safes-- and there is no way, no way 1269 01:16:33,522 --> 01:16:35,389 to get it back into the safes-- 1270 01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:37,824 I hope that truth will free us of this war. 1271 01:16:37,859 --> 01:16:41,361 I hope that we will put this war behind us 1272 01:16:41,397 --> 01:16:43,096 and we'll learn from it in such a way 1273 01:16:43,131 --> 01:16:46,132 that the history of the next 20 years 1274 01:16:46,168 --> 01:16:49,869 will read nothing like the history of the last 20 years. 1275 01:17:04,086 --> 01:17:06,086 The Appellate Court stepped aside. 1276 01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:09,490 Times and the Post vs. The United States 1277 01:17:09,525 --> 01:17:12,425 have been bumped up to the Supreme Court. 1278 01:17:12,461 --> 01:17:14,561 They start in the morning. 1279 01:17:17,165 --> 01:17:19,933 We've done all we can. 1280 01:17:25,374 --> 01:17:27,207 I think it's time for me to go in. 1281 01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:33,246 I wasn't ready to hear you say that. 1282 01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:36,917 We just heard that Senator Gravel 1283 01:17:36,952 --> 01:17:39,152 of Alaska was prevented from reading the paper 1284 01:17:39,187 --> 01:17:40,420 on the Senate floor. 1285 01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:44,057 It's up to the Supreme Court, the First Amendment issue. 1286 01:17:44,092 --> 01:17:46,493 Dan, let's talk about your case. 1287 01:17:46,529 --> 01:17:49,129 So, where do we stand? 1288 01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:50,764 Charges against you will include 1289 01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:52,232 stealing government property 1290 01:17:52,267 --> 01:17:54,234 receiving, communicating and retaining 1291 01:17:54,269 --> 01:17:55,736 national defense documents. 1292 01:17:55,771 --> 01:17:58,872 Conspiracy, multiple violations of the Espionage Act. 1293 01:17:58,908 --> 01:18:00,173 Possibly even treason. 1294 01:18:00,208 --> 01:18:01,975 We really can't tell how far they'll go. 1295 01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,345 Sounds like I'm in for a slap on the wrist. 1296 01:18:05,380 --> 01:18:07,714 What's the worst that could happen? 1297 01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:09,449 There's no reason to sugarcoat this. 1298 01:18:09,484 --> 01:18:11,117 A lot of people are extremely grateful to you 1299 01:18:11,153 --> 01:18:12,185 for what you've done 1300 01:18:12,220 --> 01:18:14,254 but Dick Nixon is not one of them. 1301 01:18:14,289 --> 01:18:15,923 Apparently, the more he thinks about it 1302 01:18:15,958 --> 01:18:17,424 the more outraged... Um... 1303 01:18:17,459 --> 01:18:19,593 Short of the death penalty 1304 01:18:19,628 --> 01:18:21,628 life in prison is probably what they'll shoot for. 1305 01:18:26,435 --> 01:18:28,301 The sooner you turn yourself in 1306 01:18:28,336 --> 01:18:32,573 the sooner we can start fighting. 1307 01:18:32,608 --> 01:18:35,576 Let's arrange for my surrender. 1308 01:18:49,324 --> 01:18:51,692 Step back, please. 1309 01:18:53,495 --> 01:18:55,261 Dr. Ellsberg, comment on the indictment 1310 01:18:55,297 --> 01:18:57,931 the Attorney General read against you this morning. 1311 01:18:57,967 --> 01:18:59,332 Eleven counts. 1312 01:18:59,367 --> 01:19:01,201 You could get more than 100 years. 1313 01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:04,270 I don't regret releasing the papers 1314 01:19:04,306 --> 01:19:06,840 only that so many lives might have been saved 1315 01:19:06,875 --> 01:19:08,441 if I'd only done it sooner. 1316 01:19:08,477 --> 01:19:10,077 Dr. Ellsberg, one more comment. 1317 01:19:10,112 --> 01:19:11,244 One more comment! 1318 01:19:33,002 --> 01:19:34,434 You have the right to remain silent 1319 01:19:34,469 --> 01:19:35,669 and refuse to answer questions. 1320 01:19:35,704 --> 01:19:36,670 Do you understand? 1321 01:19:36,705 --> 01:19:38,404 Yes. 1322 01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:40,473 Any thing you say may be used against you 1323 01:19:40,509 --> 01:19:42,142 in a court of law, you understand? 1324 01:19:42,177 --> 01:19:44,144 Yes. 1325 01:19:44,179 --> 01:19:45,912 You have the right to consult an attorney 1326 01:19:45,948 --> 01:19:47,247 before speaking with the police 1327 01:19:47,282 --> 01:19:49,616 and to have an attorney present now and in the future. 1328 01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:50,717 You understand all that? 1329 01:19:50,753 --> 01:19:52,152 Yes. 1330 01:19:55,824 --> 01:19:57,057 Both sides seemed to score points 1331 01:19:57,092 --> 01:19:58,725 with the justices in oral arguments today. 1332 01:19:58,761 --> 01:20:00,794 The government stressed the sensitive nature 1333 01:20:00,829 --> 01:20:02,162 of the Pentagon Papers 1334 01:20:02,197 --> 01:20:05,132 and the risk to our troops abroad by their publication. 1335 01:20:05,167 --> 01:20:07,901 Lawyers for The New York Times and Washington Post 1336 01:20:07,936 --> 01:20:10,671 countered that the papers are a historical record 1337 01:20:10,706 --> 01:20:13,573 which poses no danger to soldiers overseas 1338 01:20:13,608 --> 01:20:16,342 and which the public here at home has a right to read. 1339 01:20:16,378 --> 01:20:18,578 The case was submitted late today. 1340 01:20:18,613 --> 01:20:21,848 A ruling could be handed down at any time. 1341 01:20:34,963 --> 01:20:36,596 Yeah? 1342 01:20:36,631 --> 01:20:38,464 I'm on my way. 1343 01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:40,167 Decision's in. 1344 01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:55,348 The Court has reached a decision. 1345 01:20:55,383 --> 01:20:58,051 The Majority Opinion will now be distributed. 1346 01:21:07,930 --> 01:21:08,962 Dan... 1347 01:21:08,997 --> 01:21:10,296 What happened? 1348 01:21:10,332 --> 01:21:11,832 The Supreme Court-- 1349 01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:14,500 they ruled six to three 1350 01:21:14,536 --> 01:21:17,670 and the papers are going to press as we speak. 1351 01:21:22,244 --> 01:21:24,711 And we've posted bail. 1352 01:21:24,747 --> 01:21:27,013 So we're going to be able to put all this behind us 1353 01:21:27,049 --> 01:21:29,249 and with the publication of the papers 1354 01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:30,851 they're now legal, so... 1355 01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:33,386 I mean, what law have you broken, Dan? 1356 01:21:40,295 --> 01:21:42,929 This has nothing to do with my case. 1357 01:21:42,965 --> 01:21:45,565 They're still going to try me for treason. 1358 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,401 Let me see the decision. 1359 01:21:48,436 --> 01:21:50,771 It's Justice Black's opinion. 1360 01:21:55,244 --> 01:21:56,409 "In the First Amendment 1361 01:21:56,444 --> 01:21:58,278 "the Founding Fathers gave the press 1362 01:21:58,313 --> 01:21:59,846 "a protection they must have 1363 01:21:59,882 --> 01:22:01,915 "to fulfill its role in our democracy 1364 01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:04,651 "and paramount among the duties of the free press 1365 01:22:04,686 --> 01:22:06,086 "is the duty to prevent 1366 01:22:06,121 --> 01:22:08,755 "any part of the government from deceiving the people 1367 01:22:08,791 --> 01:22:10,690 "and sending them off to distant lands 1368 01:22:10,725 --> 01:22:16,062 "to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell. 1369 01:22:16,098 --> 01:22:17,297 "Far from deserving condemnation 1370 01:22:17,332 --> 01:22:18,865 "The New York Times and Washington Post 1371 01:22:18,901 --> 01:22:21,968 "nobly did precisely that which the Founders hoped 1372 01:22:22,004 --> 01:22:24,104 "and trusted they would do. 1373 01:22:24,139 --> 01:22:27,974 "The press must be left free to publish news 1374 01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:32,145 whatever the source without censorship." 1375 01:22:38,586 --> 01:22:42,822 I don't think I'm going to be back here again. 1376 01:22:42,857 --> 01:22:44,224 Thank you. 1377 01:22:44,259 --> 01:22:46,993 You're welcome, Daniel. 1378 01:24:03,871 --> 01:24:07,039 Vamos. Abiento. 1379 01:24:15,417 --> 01:24:17,817 So Ellsberg's a national hero 1380 01:24:17,852 --> 01:24:20,786 and The New York Times will probably win a damn Pulitzer-- 1381 01:24:20,822 --> 01:24:23,189 all for stealing documents. 1382 01:24:23,225 --> 01:24:24,890 These people are thieves. 1383 01:24:24,926 --> 01:24:26,659 Apparently Ellsberg had an accomplice. 1384 01:24:26,694 --> 01:24:28,060 We're going after him as well. 1385 01:24:28,096 --> 01:24:31,998 Believe me, neither will see the light of day again. 1386 01:24:32,033 --> 01:24:33,199 That's fine about their trials 1387 01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:35,101 but the President still wants to get the dirt. 1388 01:24:35,137 --> 01:24:37,370 He wants the son of a bitch destroyed. 1389 01:24:37,405 --> 01:24:39,105 Morning, Mr. President. 1390 01:24:39,141 --> 01:24:40,540 Morning, Mr. President. 1391 01:24:40,575 --> 01:24:42,575 Mr. President. 1392 01:24:42,611 --> 01:24:45,978 Our little operation out in Beverly Hills went smoothly. 1393 01:24:46,014 --> 01:24:49,582 Here's what the Plumbers found in Dr. Fielding's office. 1394 01:25:04,499 --> 01:25:06,633 Not that it didn't go well in there today 1395 01:25:06,668 --> 01:25:09,235 and not that I think our trial is going badly in general 1396 01:25:09,271 --> 01:25:10,370 but which countries 1397 01:25:10,405 --> 01:25:12,572 have non-extradition policies with the US? 1398 01:25:12,607 --> 01:25:14,140 ...special news bulletin. 1399 01:25:14,176 --> 01:25:18,545 Five men were arrested at 2:30 this morning 1400 01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:19,945 while they were in the process 1401 01:25:19,981 --> 01:25:21,781 of wiretapping and bugging the offices 1402 01:25:21,816 --> 01:25:24,450 of the Democratic National Committee at Washington's 1403 01:25:24,486 --> 01:25:27,220 Watergate hotel and apartment complex. 1404 01:25:27,255 --> 01:25:31,057 The identities of the burglars remain unanswered at this hour. 1405 01:25:40,802 --> 01:25:42,402 What is it? 1406 01:25:42,437 --> 01:25:44,770 I couldn't sleep. 1407 01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:46,872 Yeah? 1408 01:25:46,908 --> 01:25:49,409 You know, it hit me today 1409 01:25:49,444 --> 01:25:53,680 that it's been over a year with your case. 1410 01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:57,016 Sometimes it feels like it's just... 1411 01:25:57,051 --> 01:25:59,919 never going to end. 1412 01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:03,523 Everyone always thought 1413 01:26:03,558 --> 01:26:06,292 I was destined to do something great with my life. 1414 01:26:06,328 --> 01:26:08,294 Make a mark. 1415 01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:11,231 When my mother and sister died... 1416 01:26:12,967 --> 01:26:14,967 My fa... 1417 01:26:15,002 --> 01:26:18,304 I only thought of myself. 1418 01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:21,608 And when my illusion of America died 1419 01:26:21,643 --> 01:26:24,677 I did the same thing. 1420 01:26:24,713 --> 01:26:31,150 I wanted to bring the government and the nation down. 1421 01:26:34,789 --> 01:26:39,492 I loved them, and I was angry, and they disappointed me. 1422 01:26:44,266 --> 01:26:46,699 I'm going to be remembered as a traitor. 1423 01:26:46,735 --> 01:26:50,102 My children will be ashamed 1424 01:26:50,138 --> 01:26:53,906 their name disgraced. 1425 01:27:12,226 --> 01:27:14,193 All rise. 1426 01:27:14,228 --> 01:27:18,164 The Honorable Judge William Matthew Byrne presiding. 1427 01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:19,465 Be seated. 1428 01:27:26,908 --> 01:27:30,242 Commencing on April 26th, the government has made 1429 01:27:30,278 --> 01:27:32,478 an extraordinary series of disclosures 1430 01:27:32,514 --> 01:27:35,348 regarding the conduct of several governmental agencies 1431 01:27:35,383 --> 01:27:38,050 regarding the defendants in this case. 1432 01:27:38,085 --> 01:27:39,519 It is my responsibility 1433 01:27:39,554 --> 01:27:41,821 to assess the effect of this conduct 1434 01:27:41,856 --> 01:27:43,889 upon the rights of the defendants 1435 01:27:43,925 --> 01:27:46,459 and their opportunities for a fair trial 1436 01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:49,895 with due process of law. 1437 01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:51,331 Along with the country at large 1438 01:27:51,366 --> 01:27:53,933 this court has recently become aware of a special unit 1439 01:27:53,968 --> 01:27:56,268 that was established, reporting to the White House 1440 01:27:56,304 --> 01:27:58,237 which undertook both the burglary 1441 01:27:58,272 --> 01:28:00,340 at the office of Dr. Lewis Fielding 1442 01:28:00,375 --> 01:28:03,476 and the break-in at the Watergate Hotel. 1443 01:28:09,417 --> 01:28:12,618 The totality of the circumstances of this case 1444 01:28:12,654 --> 01:28:14,587 offends a sense of justice. 1445 01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:19,225 The bizarre events have incurably infected 1446 01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:21,293 the prosecution of this case. 1447 01:28:21,329 --> 01:28:25,097 Therefore, I have decided to declare a mistrial and grant... 1448 01:28:26,801 --> 01:28:29,335 And grant the motion to dismiss. 1449 01:28:38,980 --> 01:28:41,313 Thank God for Richard Nixon. 1450 01:29:15,483 --> 01:29:19,985 For me as an American, democracy is sacred 1451 01:29:20,021 --> 01:29:21,888 something worth fighting for. 1452 01:29:21,923 --> 01:29:26,692 And if my own greatest act of patriotism 1453 01:29:26,728 --> 01:29:29,929 was treason, so be it. 1454 01:29:49,317 --> 01:29:50,717 I think the lesson is 1455 01:29:50,752 --> 01:29:53,586 that the people of this country, um, can't afford 1456 01:29:53,622 --> 01:29:56,355 to let the President run the country by himself 1457 01:29:56,391 --> 01:29:59,458 even foreign affairs, any more than domestic affairs 1458 01:29:59,494 --> 01:30:00,894 without the help of the Congress 1459 01:30:00,929 --> 01:30:02,361 without the help of the public. 1460 01:30:11,706 --> 01:30:15,374 The system shouldn't change, I think, to begin with. 1461 01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:18,912 Very hard, really, the way our system operates now 1462 01:30:18,947 --> 01:30:22,481 for a truly frank, honest man 1463 01:30:22,517 --> 01:30:25,284 to stay in that system indefinitely 1464 01:30:25,319 --> 01:30:28,588 without being weeded out or fired or made apathetic 1465 01:30:28,623 --> 01:30:31,190 or in effect, corrupted in the end. 1466 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,132 Good evening. 1467 01:30:40,168 --> 01:30:42,635 A quarter century of American involvement 1468 01:30:42,671 --> 01:30:44,236 in South Vietnam is over. 1469 01:30:44,272 --> 01:30:46,039 At mid-afternoon, Saigon time 1470 01:30:46,074 --> 01:30:48,407 and armada of 81 US Marine helicopters 1471 01:30:48,443 --> 01:30:50,142 descended on the South Vietnamese capital. 1472 01:30:50,178 --> 01:30:54,380 More than 6,000 persons were evacuated 1473 01:30:54,415 --> 01:30:55,748 plucked from the US Embassy grounds 1474 01:30:55,784 --> 01:30:58,084 from rooftops throughout the city 1475 01:30:58,119 --> 01:30:59,953 and from the nearby Tan Son Nhut Airport. 1476 01:30:59,988 --> 01:31:01,754 It was a chaotic scene in Saigon today 1477 01:31:01,790 --> 01:31:04,323 when those US Marines arrived. 1478 01:31:04,358 --> 01:31:06,993 Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of South Vietnamese 1479 01:31:07,028 --> 01:31:08,995 fought to get inside the American Embassy compound 1480 01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:12,231 to get on those American helicopters leaving Saigon. 1481 01:31:12,266 --> 01:31:15,735 Some Vietnamese tried to scale the ten-foot Embassy walls 1482 01:31:15,770 --> 01:31:17,804 and got caught on the barbed wire. 1483 01:31:17,839 --> 01:31:19,973 The Vietnamese cried and shouted 1484 01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,742 "We want to go, too," and during all this 1485 01:31:22,777 --> 01:31:23,977 inside the American Embassy 1486 01:31:24,012 --> 01:31:26,980 officials were burning the last of their documents. 1487 01:31:27,015 --> 01:31:28,781 Dan Rather, CBS News, New York. 1488 01:31:28,817 --> 01:31:30,750 Thank you for joining us. 107143

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