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We've got company.
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Picture yourself
on a beach at dusk
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a big red sun that's setting
into the ocean
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and you're not paying attention
to where you're headed.
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You drift on closer to the tide,
the sand underfoot loosens.
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You look back at the horizon
and the sun is gone.
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And you realize all at once
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the composition of this sand
is entirely different
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than any you've ever known.
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Your feet sink to the ankle
when you step
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to the shin, to the hip.
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You turn back, but now you can
barely move at all.
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The harder you struggle,
the deeper you get.
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You're in up to your chest.
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It sticks to you
and won't let go.
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It's too late.
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You can't escape it.
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That's how we found ourselves
in Vietnam.
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It was 1963, the hottest season
in the Cold War:
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Iron Curtain, Missile Gap,
too soft on communism.
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The RAND Corporation,
America's leading think tank
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recruited top economists
and political analysts
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to run models of any possible
conflict for the military.
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War games.
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If the Soviets match
our forces in Norway
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and NATO's in Germany,
there will be a stalemate.
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Forget that.
Forget that.
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Germany will be covered.
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The Soviets know and expect that
so their MRBMs will be ready.
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We can flank them
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right, gentlemen?
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Double the number
of Jupiters in Turkey.
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Your moves are
too predictable.
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If you don't send
a clear message, Dan
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then it's World War III.
We're all radioactive waste.
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The risks,
the risks are too great.
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Wrong.
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Risk. Use risk,
use coercion, use threats.
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Use bluff.
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They're the fundamentals
of any game theory.
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There's no upside to behaving
rationally in a conflict.
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Keep them guessing.
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Make them fear the fact
that you have nothing to lose
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It's a peculiarity
of thermonuclear threats
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that make cowards
of practically everyone.
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Very few objectives that seem
worth it to anyone.
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John Foster Dulles unbelievably
was right.
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"The ability to get to the verge
without getting into the war
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is a necessary art."
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As awful as it sounds,
blackmail is good.
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The bombing of Hiroshima
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increased credibility
of US nuclear threat.
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And killed hundreds of thousands
of Japanese.
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And saved hundreds of thousands
of American lives
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and ended the war.
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We won.
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You outmaneuvered the room
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you pissed everybody off
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and I know how much
you love that
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but everything is not
about you, Dan.
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This is the RAND Corporation.
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We're privileged to be here.
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These people
are your colleagues.
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Try working with them
once in a while.
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That being said
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your theories have
a lot of merit.
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You should bring them
into the real world.
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What do you mean?
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Why did you use
the Conrad anecdote?
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The one about the man
with the nitroglycerin.
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The cops were afraid
to pick him up
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because they know he has
the will to blow himself up
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and everybody else.
I didn't mean it.
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Well, maybe you did.
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It would have fed
into your theories
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which you should expand on.
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Madness even as a tool
or a weapon.
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Who would be a model?
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Hitler.
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Very good.
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The Viet Cong
are a guerrilla force
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employing the harassing tactics
used by George Washington
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during the Revolutionary War.
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Quick strikes
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expert use of terrain
for ambushes
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antipersonnel devices--
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they're complemented
by the more regimented
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and battle-hardened
North Vietnamese army
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responsible for the rout
of the French at Dien Bien Phu.
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The VC and the NVA
are making daily incursions
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deeper and deeper
into the South
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with significant success.
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What I wanted most of all
was to serve my country
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to be one
of the president's men.
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Everything I did
was to further that goal:
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scholarship to Harvard,
fellowship at Cambridge
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an officer in the Marine Corps
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writing my PhD and landing
an assignment at RAND.
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It was a heady place
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but always every second
of the day I felt restless.
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What are you reading?
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Bernard Fall. Vietnam.
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We've been so distracted
by Cuba
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we're just tiptoeing around
in Southeast Asia.
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No conviction, no definition.
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Russians, North Vietnamese
decisively subverting the South.
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Read your paper.
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And?
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"Political Uses of Madness."
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Where in the world
did you get that idea?
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It's out there.
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It's provocative.
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It's dangerous.
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It's a good paper.
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I'm frustrated, Harry.
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You see it?
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I'm just... stuck.
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Well, you'll be interested
to know
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that the paper found its way
to the Pentagon
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and into the hands
of the Assistant
Secretary of Defense.
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John McNaughton read it?
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Yeah.
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What'd he think?
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He said, "Not bad."
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Did he understand it?
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Oh, I doubt it.
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Which is probably why,
at my suggestion
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he wants you to come
to work for him.
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Daniel, this is
your going away party
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and you're the
guest of honor.
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Is there any chance
of you at least
even pretending
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you're having a good time?
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Why don't we start out
with a little salad?
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Can I help?
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Are you all right?
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How's the packing going?
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I'm finished
with your stuff.
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I told you
that I'd help.
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I'm not going
with you next weekend.
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When are you coming?
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I'm not
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and neither
are the children.
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Can I have a piece
of cake now?
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Dan Ellsberg.
Hi, I'm Rich Corcoran.
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Just wanted to say
congratulations.
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I'm going to be
replacing you.
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What?
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You ready
for the big move, Dan?
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What? Excuse me.
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Bon voyage, man.
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Carol, I know
this is disruptive
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but it's important.
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We can have a real voice
in shaping the policy
in Washington.
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Carol, this means something.
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No, you have a chance
to change policy
means something.
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I love you,
but I've never
"meant something."
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That's not true.
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Not even the kids.
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What are you talking about?
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I don't even know
how to respond to that.
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Don't worry.
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I can't ask you
to choose your family
over your ambitions.
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Will you stop
with the dishes?
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This isn't even...
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This isn't even
our house.
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I know you're destined
to do great things.
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I've always known that.
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I just hoped our family
would have been one of them.
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I won't go
to Washington.
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I want a divorce.
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What?
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Carol, I can change.
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With all your wonderful
talents and ambitions
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the one thing
you'll never be able
to do is change
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and the only thing
in my life that will change
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is the scenery.
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I threw myself into my work.
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They had me in a sub-basement
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analyzing incoming data
from Vietnam.
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My rank was a GS-18,
the highest-level clearance
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for a civilian.
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It was impressive.
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I reported to John McNaughton,
Assistant Secretary of Defense
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who had the ear
of Secretary McNamara
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who had the ear
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of the new president,
Lyndon Johnson.
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This was where
I'd always wanted to be.
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My fellow Americans
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as President
and Commander-in-Chief
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it is my duty
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to the American people
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to report
that renewed hostile actions
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against United States ships
on the high seas
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and the Gulf of Tonkin
have today required me
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to order the military forces
of the United States...
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Looks like it's
our war now, Ellsberg.
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I want a position paper, Dan,
on what this could mean.
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Give me logic,
give me rational.
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Define the variables,
the possible course of action.
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No emotion--
facts, always facts
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but make it strong.
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How fast?
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Fast?
Can I have it?
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Well...
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Not fast enough.
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Senator, regardless
of any provocation
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the attack
against the SS Maddox
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in the Gulf of Tonkin clearly
violates the Geneva Accord.
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It demands immediate,
decisive, prejudiced response.
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If an American ship
is attacked on the high seas
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we have to act
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in spite of the risk--
because of the risk.
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Foreign policy stakes
are too high
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for us not to apply
maximum force and power
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necessary to implement
that policy.
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You're late.
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I know.
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Who is that?
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That's Dan Ellsberg.
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That's Daniel Ellsberg.
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What's he so rabidly
talking about?
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...postulate
from how we act
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then apply it
to nations and wars.
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Vietnam falls
to the Communists
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the disturbing reality is
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the rest of Southeast Asia
will face the same fate.
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This is a civil war.
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Shouldn't we let
the people of Vietnam
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determine their own fate?
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They never have before.
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They're not ready to now.
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Their supposed movement
for independence
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has been going on
for thousands of years.
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Nothing ever happens.
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It predates us.
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They fight the Chinese,
the French, the Japanese
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the French again,
the Chinese again...
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Oh, I see.
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You think that because
the Soviets and Chinese
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are backing
the Communists
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our global prestige and power
are at stake.
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No, let's just roll over.
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Worked for Neville Chamberlain
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in Poland, Hungary
and France in World War II.
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That was Hitler.
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This is Brezhnev
and Mao.
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Who's to say, really
the differences
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aren't much more
than a bad mustache?
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I'm Dan Ellsberg.
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So I've been warned.
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Patricia Marx.
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This is your house.
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Thank you for inviting me
to your party.
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It's my father's house,
his party.
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I didn't invite you.
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I could take your argument apart
piece by piece.
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By the time the sun rose,
you'd be on my side.
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What makes you think that
I would be so easy to convert?
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Because I'm right.
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Hmm.
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Some other time.
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How long have
you been here?
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The party?
264
00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:31,535
Washington?
265
00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:33,137
Three months. Four.
266
00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:35,673
Ready to conquer
the world.
267
00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,412
You do know that they
call this the Virgin City.
268
00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:44,414
Everybody comes here
to screw the Virgin
269
00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:46,651
and gets screwed by the Virgin.
270
00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:50,721
Hmm.
271
00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:55,926
Where are you going?
272
00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,163
How would it look
273
00:14:59,198 --> 00:15:02,166
if I didn't walk over
and greet my boyfriend?
274
00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:18,683
Hi.
275
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,234
It started as a trickle.
276
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:39,369
Estimates of enemy dead
were hugely exaggerated
277
00:15:39,405 --> 00:15:40,705
while the field reports
278
00:15:40,740 --> 00:15:43,240
would show heavy enemy fire
and American casualties.
279
00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:45,242
The inefficiency was crippling.
280
00:15:45,277 --> 00:15:49,313
There was absolutely no way
to tell where we stood.
281
00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:50,647
John.
282
00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:59,890
This says nightly shelling
was stopped at Ben Tre.
283
00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:01,859
This was sent the same day
from the same command.
284
00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:03,293
Three American soldiers
were killed
285
00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:04,561
on the night of March 11th
286
00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:06,130
from incoming rounds
at Ben Tre.
287
00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:07,331
Maybe it's
an aberration.
288
00:16:07,366 --> 00:16:08,365
It's no aberration.
289
00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,267
This is standard
operating procedure.
290
00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,436
A month ago I sent you
a folder like these.
291
00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:13,637
I haven't heard a word.
292
00:16:13,672 --> 00:16:16,173
And they keep on coming--
mistakes, discrepancies...
293
00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:18,109
Every piece of intelligence
that we get
294
00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:19,810
can be contradicted
by an equally
295
00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:20,778
trustworthy source.
296
00:16:20,813 --> 00:16:21,779
So what do you suggest?
297
00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:22,847
That you read them.
298
00:16:22,882 --> 00:16:23,981
And then what?
299
00:16:24,016 --> 00:16:25,515
A fact-finding mission--
300
00:16:25,551 --> 00:16:29,086
a real one that actually
uncovers facts.
301
00:16:29,122 --> 00:16:32,022
I'll go over there.
I'll volunteer.
302
00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:33,023
What are you going to do?
303
00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:34,491
Reenlist in the Marines?
Go into combat?
304
00:16:34,526 --> 00:16:35,659
We need an accurate picture
305
00:16:35,694 --> 00:16:37,394
of what the hell's
happening over there.
306
00:16:37,429 --> 00:16:39,029
It's our job
to know the right answers.
307
00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:40,798
Otherwise, how the hell
can the President
308
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,233
make intelligent policy choices?
309
00:16:42,268 --> 00:16:43,433
You should read...
I have.
310
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,673
It's about time.
311
00:16:49,708 --> 00:16:52,276
I've been waiting for you.
312
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:56,013
What took you so long?
313
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:03,020
If these numbers
are wrong, false
314
00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:04,822
we could be fighting
on the wrong side.
315
00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:06,356
So do go, and while
you're there
316
00:17:06,392 --> 00:17:08,058
I want you to prepare
a White Paper
317
00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:09,526
on ways we can
get out of this
318
00:17:09,561 --> 00:17:10,694
if everything
collapses.
319
00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:12,029
What are you saying?
320
00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:14,298
You of all people, you're
the hawk that killed the dove.
321
00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:15,565
Ask the right
questions
322
00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:18,169
define the answers,
throw out the assumptions.
323
00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:19,569
Facts. Not self-interest
324
00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:20,737
not myths,
not bullshit
325
00:17:20,773 --> 00:17:22,173
not yours or
anybody else's.
326
00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:23,707
Report to me, only me.
327
00:17:23,742 --> 00:17:26,476
The numbers are contradictory;
they're troubling
328
00:17:26,512 --> 00:17:29,013
but you're wrong.
329
00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:31,148
You should be clear
that you could be signing
330
00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,784
the death warrant to your career
by having anything to do
331
00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:35,752
with calculations
and decisions like these.
332
00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,521
A lot of people
333
00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:39,924
have been ruined for less.
334
00:17:51,003 --> 00:17:54,371
I was assigned to General
Edward Lansdale's contingent.
335
00:17:54,406 --> 00:17:56,607
Based in Saigon
336
00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:59,309
I quickly found there are
two different worlds--
337
00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:02,780
Saigon and out there.
338
00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:16,694
When a hamlet
was declared "pacified"
339
00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:18,963
I'd hook up
and go out into the province
340
00:18:18,998 --> 00:18:20,097
and see for myself.
341
00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:23,067
What about this province?
342
00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:24,902
Charlie pulled out
a few weeks ago.
343
00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:26,436
Then that's secure.
344
00:18:26,472 --> 00:18:28,505
Well, I wouldn't
exactly say that.
345
00:18:29,675 --> 00:18:30,874
Well, is it secure
or isn't it?
346
00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,910
It's the most reliable
information we've got.
347
00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:35,079
That's neither information
nor reliable.
348
00:18:38,584 --> 00:18:40,818
Hey, Ellsberg,
is that you?
349
00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:42,720
Who's that?
350
00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:45,122
Tony Russo.
351
00:18:45,157 --> 00:18:47,591
Russo? What the hell
are you doing here?
352
00:18:47,627 --> 00:18:49,793
What's going on in there?
353
00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:51,228
RAND sent me over here
354
00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:53,664
to supervise a program
for the army.
355
00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:56,233
We're interviewing
Viet Cong prisoners
356
00:18:56,268 --> 00:18:57,935
on motivation and morale.
357
00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,037
Don't seem to have a problem
with motivation and morale.
358
00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,039
Hmm, sure
as hell don't.
359
00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,308
It's not what
we predicted, man.
360
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:09,179
No matter how much
ordnance and napalm
361
00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:11,348
and personnel
we throw at them
362
00:19:11,383 --> 00:19:14,685
they are not giving up.
363
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,487
But I thought you were
back in Washington.
364
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,757
What's up? What
are you doing here?
365
00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:20,958
Finding a way to win.
366
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,159
Ah...
367
00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:25,763
You want to know
how to win?
368
00:19:25,798 --> 00:19:29,466
Convince them
it's okay to lose.
369
00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,501
Get him out of here.
370
00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:40,544
I expected to be overseas
for a few weeks.
371
00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:43,047
Then weeks turned into months,
and months into seasons.
372
00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:44,581
I wasn't any closer
to finding out
373
00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:46,183
why everything
felt like an excuse.
374
00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:50,554
Inconsistencies that even
contradicted themselves.
375
00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:54,558
But I still felt...
more committed than ever.
376
00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:14,912
They carried themselves
with pride.
377
00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:17,614
Their courage was deep.
378
00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:20,851
If they were afraid of dying,
they never showed it.
379
00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:25,322
It's wet.
380
00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:26,790
Ground's wet.
381
00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:28,058
Heater's wet.
382
00:20:28,094 --> 00:20:29,559
Feet's wet.
383
00:20:29,595 --> 00:20:31,361
What's your name?
384
00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:34,497
Compson, Leonard,
the III, sir.
385
00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:36,566
You can drop the "sir."
I'm just an observer.
386
00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:37,667
Observer, huh?
387
00:20:37,703 --> 00:20:38,869
Zip it...
388
00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:40,971
and whip it, Compson.
389
00:21:12,638 --> 00:21:13,637
Can you play?
390
00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:14,805
No.
391
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,240
You're a reporter?
392
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:17,307
It's true.
393
00:21:17,342 --> 00:21:20,210
I sense a certain distrust.
394
00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:22,045
Don't like
what I read.
395
00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,481
What would you
like us to say?
396
00:21:24,516 --> 00:21:27,617
Something positive.
Anything positive.
397
00:21:27,653 --> 00:21:28,618
You mean lie.
398
00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:32,756
Things are going to change.
399
00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:34,024
How long you been in country?
400
00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:36,894
Six months.
401
00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:39,863
Good luck. I hope
you're right.
402
00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:44,268
Hey, if you do get
a good story, let me know.
403
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,436
Neil Sheehan
with UPI.
404
00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,771
Dan Ellsberg.
405
00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,258
So, how much longer
do you think we'll be here?
406
00:22:08,294 --> 00:22:10,660
I think we'll be here
as long as it takes.
407
00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:12,629
And how long do you
think that is?
408
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:21,905
Daniel Ellsberg,
December 1965, Saigon.
409
00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:23,173
What are you doing here?
410
00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:25,142
I'm a radio correspondent.
411
00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:26,576
I have my own show.
412
00:22:26,611 --> 00:22:29,012
Care to comment on our progress?
413
00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:30,280
Our progress?
414
00:22:30,316 --> 00:22:34,852
I'd say your coming over here
is a good first step.
415
00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:37,620
How is the pacification program
going?
416
00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,858
Not well. You don't seem
particularly pacified.
417
00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:46,629
What kind of success
do you think we're having
418
00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:48,932
in training
the South Vietnamese army
419
00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:50,934
and improving their
fighting efficiency?
420
00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:53,237
About the same amount of success
as I'm having
421
00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,172
avoiding this interview
and asking you
422
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,441
to dinner.
423
00:22:58,477 --> 00:23:03,613
Dr. Ellsberg,
when can we expect
424
00:23:03,648 --> 00:23:07,517
an acceptable outcome here,
and what will that be?
425
00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:13,690
I guess we're
426
00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:14,624
done here.
427
00:23:14,659 --> 00:23:16,526
Thank you.
428
00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:17,694
Thank you very much.
429
00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:18,728
You're welcome.
430
00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:34,678
Do you know the lotus
is one of the few flowers
431
00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:37,346
that bears fruit and petals
at the same time?
432
00:23:37,382 --> 00:23:39,515
Does your head hurt
with all the information
433
00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:41,051
you cram into it?
434
00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:42,085
When they bloom...
435
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,387
they get more beautiful
436
00:23:44,422 --> 00:23:47,390
with each new...
ring of petals that open.
437
00:23:48,426 --> 00:23:49,693
Quick, over there.
438
00:23:49,728 --> 00:23:52,328
Oh...
439
00:23:52,363 --> 00:23:54,097
I like the rain.
440
00:23:59,838 --> 00:24:02,405
It makes you
look beautiful.
441
00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:20,483
How'd you get that?
442
00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:22,418
When I was a kid
my mother decided
443
00:25:22,453 --> 00:25:24,487
I was going to be
a concert pianist.
444
00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:28,158
I had a certain amount
of talent, I guess
445
00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:32,162
but it was impossible to miss
my lack of greatness.
446
00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,097
Didn't faze her at all.
447
00:25:34,132 --> 00:25:35,464
She had complete faith.
448
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,834
Made me practice endlessly.
449
00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:38,835
Oh...
450
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:41,671
And when I was 15,
on the Fourth of July
451
00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:44,007
my father fell asleep
at the wheel
452
00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:46,442
and I woke up in the hospital
a day later
453
00:25:46,477 --> 00:25:49,312
and they told me
my mother and sister had died.
454
00:25:49,347 --> 00:25:50,313
My God.
455
00:25:50,348 --> 00:25:52,148
I remember...
456
00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:57,353
my first thought
when they told me was
457
00:25:57,388 --> 00:26:00,824
"I won't have to practice
piano anymore"
458
00:26:00,859 --> 00:26:03,093
and I never played again.
459
00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:12,001
Tell me
about your radio show.
460
00:26:12,037 --> 00:26:13,069
Well...
461
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:16,973
I, um... I see somebody
who's interesting--
462
00:26:17,008 --> 00:26:19,709
an artist, a politician,
anybody...
463
00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,677
The officer in the bar?
464
00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:23,780
:
Sometimes.
465
00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:24,981
Mm-hmm.
466
00:26:25,016 --> 00:26:26,850
And I go after them.
467
00:26:26,885 --> 00:26:28,584
It's called
Patricia Marx Interviews.
468
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,220
Yeah, I'd listen
if I was back home.
469
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,354
It only airs
in New York.
470
00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:32,555
Then I'd move
to New York.
471
00:26:32,590 --> 00:26:33,790
Why don't you?
472
00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:42,065
Why don't you come back
with me in a few weeks?
473
00:26:47,672 --> 00:26:50,373
I'm so glad you're here.
474
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:54,644
Me, too.
475
00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:15,691
...four, six, south.
Bouvier, over.
476
00:28:17,662 --> 00:28:19,262
What's up, Sergeant?
477
00:28:19,297 --> 00:28:21,964
VC and Alpha Company
surprised each other.
478
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,266
The villa got caught
479
00:28:23,301 --> 00:28:24,367
in the middle of
the crossfire.
480
00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:25,701
How many VC and American
casualties?
481
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:34,377
Says the only dead
she saw was villagers.
482
00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:36,179
We got a report this morning.
483
00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:38,014
20 enemy dead. Ask her again.
484
00:28:44,922 --> 00:28:46,656
Just villagers.
485
00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:14,750
Russo?
486
00:29:14,786 --> 00:29:17,654
Yeah? Ellsberg.
487
00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:20,056
Nice pressed shirt.
488
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:22,058
You always wear
those damn pressed shirts.
489
00:29:23,828 --> 00:29:24,794
You all right?
490
00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:25,961
Yeah, I'm, uh...
491
00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,530
I'm-I'm
contemplating.
492
00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:28,631
Contemplating.
493
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:31,801
What are you
contemplating?
494
00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:38,040
These Viet Cong prisoners
I'm interviewing--
495
00:29:38,076 --> 00:29:40,009
that I was told were
496
00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:43,112
chicken-scratching,
yellow-bellying vermin--
497
00:29:43,147 --> 00:29:44,514
in fact seem to be
498
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:50,820
dedicated, determined,
committed, monkish, and, uh...
499
00:29:50,855 --> 00:29:52,188
idealistic.
500
00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:54,524
Why is that?
501
00:29:58,263 --> 00:30:00,363
600 of them.
502
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,235
What are you doing?
503
00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:07,270
Body count.
504
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:08,104
Body count.
505
00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:09,706
Body count.
506
00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,408
There is no body count.
507
00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:15,044
Yeah. Ain't
life good?
508
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:16,212
Ain't body count good?
509
00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,813
Ain't Saigon good?
510
00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:20,416
:
You ever heard the one
about General Navarre?
511
00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:21,451
"The Frog"?
512
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:25,121
1954, it was just
before Dien Bien Phu.
513
00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:27,257
Asked "How many DBs?"
514
00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:31,093
"300," came the answer.
"300 dead bodies."
515
00:30:31,129 --> 00:30:32,729
"Very well," said the General.
516
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:35,565
"Now we know that the Viet Minh
drag off that dead."
517
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,166
"So, you have
300 bodies
518
00:30:37,201 --> 00:30:39,469
"that probably
means 3,000 killed.
519
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,604
"You must allow 10%
for error.
520
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,774
So, we'll tell the press
3,300 killed."
521
00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:46,509
"By body count, sir?"
522
00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:49,078
"How else?" sayeth the General.
523
00:30:49,113 --> 00:30:51,947
Two and two is five.
524
00:30:51,983 --> 00:30:53,549
Exactly it.
525
00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,085
Dr. Ellsberg, you always
could get to the nub.
526
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,119
Five.
527
00:31:06,398 --> 00:31:08,864
I think you're exercising
the wrong muscle.
528
00:31:11,403 --> 00:31:14,136
I'm leaving in the
morning, you know?
529
00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:15,871
I'll be finished soon.
530
00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:18,841
Yeah?
531
00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:20,743
I've heard that one before.
532
00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:25,080
Just have to get things
back on track.
533
00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:27,917
What does
"back on track" mean?
534
00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:30,453
Movement towards
some sort of victory.
535
00:31:30,488 --> 00:31:32,254
"Some sort of victory?"
536
00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:35,658
You haven't seen enough here
to know better?
537
00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:37,627
Patricia, this country
is in our vital interest.
538
00:31:37,662 --> 00:31:38,628
Fighting for it isn't wrong.
539
00:31:38,663 --> 00:31:39,629
The way we're doing it...
540
00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:41,030
Oh, spare me.
541
00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:42,332
Really. Spare me.
542
00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:44,767
I do not even want to know
what kind of nonsense
543
00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:47,036
you're peddling to those fools
at the Pentagon.
544
00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:49,339
You encouraging them
to escalate this
545
00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:50,540
beyond all reason?
546
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,843
You want more
of our boys--
547
00:31:53,878 --> 00:31:57,046
more of those innocent boys--
to be turned into cannon fodder?
548
00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:58,247
Is that what you want?
549
00:31:58,282 --> 00:31:59,982
'Cause that's what you're doing.
550
00:32:00,017 --> 00:32:01,183
That's what
you're encouraging.
551
00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:03,152
Patricia, I don't want to talk
about the war anymore.
552
00:32:06,524 --> 00:32:08,725
I'm sorry.
553
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,061
You don't have to be sorry.
554
00:32:12,096 --> 00:32:16,599
You're entitled to believe
whatever you want.
555
00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:20,035
I just can't be with that.
556
00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,705
I'm not apologizing
for what I believe in.
557
00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:25,475
I'm sorry for disappointing you.
558
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:04,046
Shit.
559
00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:10,069
Where the hell's
560
00:33:10,104 --> 00:33:12,054
that coming
from?
Keep your mouth shut.
561
00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:13,790
Bravo Eight, Bravo Eight,
we're under heavy fire.
562
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:14,791
We got VC in the tree line.
563
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:15,958
Bravo Eight, what's
your position?
564
00:33:15,993 --> 00:33:17,493
We need your
position.
565
00:33:17,529 --> 00:33:19,145
Lewis, Coleman... let's go.
566
00:33:23,552 --> 00:33:25,101
Move out!
567
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,174
Medic!
568
00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:40,243
I need a medic over here!
569
00:34:43,048 --> 00:34:46,366
Stay out of here.
570
00:34:46,401 --> 00:34:47,533
Pull him out!
571
00:34:47,569 --> 00:34:48,901
Plug the wound!
Plug the wound!
572
00:34:48,936 --> 00:34:51,571
Get him to sick bay and give him
a three line of dopamine.
573
00:34:51,606 --> 00:34:53,623
Oh, my arm!
574
00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:56,025
About a hundred meters,
I'm out of here.
575
00:34:57,495 --> 00:34:59,495
Stop bleeding.
576
00:35:09,507 --> 00:35:11,474
Pressure on
the wound.
577
00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:12,808
Stand up...
578
00:35:12,843 --> 00:35:14,843
Keep him tight,
keep him tight.
579
00:35:46,177 --> 00:35:47,643
I'd finally gotten
580
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,897
a glimpse of the...
581
00:35:50,932 --> 00:35:52,999
truth I was groping for.
582
00:35:55,003 --> 00:35:57,603
We couldn't win unless...
583
00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:06,261
I came home
584
00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:08,564
and John McNaughton
had been killed
585
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,100
in a freak plane accident.
586
00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:13,703
He was... gone...
587
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:18,707
and my position in Washington
and report with him.
588
00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:23,179
I was sick with hepatitis,
depressed, out of touch
589
00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:27,750
and finally,
I took my old job back at RAND.
590
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,053
And they asked me
to be one of the authors
591
00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:33,823
of a history
of our time in Vietnam
592
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:36,426
that Robert McNamara had ordered
for the Defense Department
593
00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:38,428
and put me to work
594
00:36:38,463 --> 00:36:41,230
writing an options paper
for the White House.
595
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,302
I laid out for them...
596
00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:48,571
what had become so clear to me:
597
00:36:51,108 --> 00:36:55,277
that our situation was dire.
598
00:36:55,313 --> 00:36:57,513
And we had
to admit our mistakes...
599
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,551
and change our strategy.
600
00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:09,058
Hello, Dan.
601
00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:10,893
Hello, Harry.
602
00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:12,561
Sorry about McNaughton.
603
00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:13,963
I know
the two of you were close.
604
00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:17,900
Dan, where's
that obnoxious
605
00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:19,902
egomaniacal pain
in the ass
606
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:22,138
we all love
so much?
607
00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:26,976
Dan, I'd like
very much
608
00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:29,578
if you went to see
the psychiatrist
609
00:37:29,614 --> 00:37:30,780
that I recommended.
610
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:32,548
No big deal,
just go see him.
611
00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:34,516
Maybe he'll make
it feel better.
612
00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,886
Why didn't Kissinger
include the options paper
613
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:38,520
in the packet he gave to Nixon?
614
00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:40,890
Well, maybe it was your
conclusions he didn't care for.
615
00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:42,558
"Under the present course
of action
616
00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:44,994
our goals in Vietnam are
completely unattainable."
617
00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:46,595
That's a bitter pill
to swallow, Dan.
618
00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:47,663
They should be grateful
619
00:37:47,698 --> 00:37:49,265
I'm telling them
how it really is.
620
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:51,567
Dan, how could you expect
to write something like that
621
00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:52,769
and get a positive reaction
622
00:37:52,804 --> 00:37:54,436
from Henry
Kissinger?
I don't.
623
00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:56,139
Send a copy
to the Pentagon.
624
00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:57,506
More eyes that see it,
the better.
625
00:37:57,541 --> 00:37:58,641
They're busy
626
00:37:58,676 --> 00:37:59,776
with the McNamara
war study.
627
00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:00,777
It's done?
628
00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:01,710
That's what I hear.
629
00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:02,711
When do we get our copy?
630
00:38:02,747 --> 00:38:04,046
We're not going
to get one.
Why not?
631
00:38:04,082 --> 00:38:05,815
Because it's classified
"Top Secret."
632
00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:06,983
That's bullshit.
633
00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:08,818
It's a history of the war,
lessons learned.
634
00:38:08,853 --> 00:38:09,986
I worked on it.
635
00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,320
My name's on the damn thing.
636
00:38:11,355 --> 00:38:12,688
RAND must be able
to get a copy.
637
00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:13,923
Well, don't hold
your breath.
638
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:15,391
Nobody's being able
to look at it.
639
00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:17,026
Congress doesn't
even know it exists.
640
00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:18,727
Make a request for me,
please, Harry.
641
00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:22,364
I'll try,
but don't get your hopes up.
642
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,393
We believe,
in face of the evidence
643
00:39:24,428 --> 00:39:27,429
the optimists
who have been wrong in the past.
644
00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:30,132
To suggest
we are on the edge of defeat
645
00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,801
is to yield
to unreasonable pessimism.
646
00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:35,872
To say that we are mired
in stalemate
647
00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:40,309
seems the only realistic,
yet unsatisfactory conclusion.
648
00:39:40,345 --> 00:39:41,810
On the off chance
649
00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:44,446
the military
and political analysts are right
650
00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:45,915
in the next few months
651
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,750
we must test the enemy's
intentions
652
00:39:47,785 --> 00:39:49,485
in case this is indeed
653
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,889
his last big gasp
before negotiations.
654
00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:55,557
But it is increasingly clear
to this reporter
655
00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:58,594
that the only rational way now
to think
656
00:39:58,629 --> 00:40:00,129
would be to negotiate
657
00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:03,732
not as victors,
but as an honorable people
658
00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:06,702
who lived up to their pledge
to defend democracy
659
00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:09,205
and did the best they could.
660
00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:16,913
You wanted to see me?
661
00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:18,647
Yeah.
662
00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:21,317
Go to your office,
close the door.
663
00:40:21,352 --> 00:40:22,952
The papers are on your desk.
664
00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:25,454
There's no record
of them in the logs.
665
00:40:25,489 --> 00:40:27,456
Keep it under your hat.
666
00:40:27,491 --> 00:40:29,091
Here are the codes.
667
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:30,259
Thank you, Harry.
668
00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:31,294
Right.
669
00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:52,514
It wasn't what I expected...
at all.
670
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:55,318
Over 7,000 pages in 47 volumes
671
00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,420
what I had in front of me
was nothing less
672
00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:59,555
than a chronology
of our damnation.
673
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:01,557
There were two histories
of the war.
674
00:41:01,592 --> 00:41:04,327
One for the President,
and one for the rest of us.
675
00:41:04,362 --> 00:41:06,695
The people were lied to
about Vietnam
676
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:09,631
through four consecutive
Presidential administrations.
677
00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:11,633
It wasn't one man.
678
00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:13,869
It was the Office itself.
679
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,308
Truman ignored letter
after letter from Ho Chi Minh
680
00:41:19,344 --> 00:41:20,676
asking for help.
681
00:41:20,711 --> 00:41:23,446
He then financed the French
with arms and tactical support
682
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,448
to fight the guerrillas.
683
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,450
Congress knew nothing.
684
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,852
Eisenhower agreed
to split Vietnam in two
685
00:41:29,887 --> 00:41:32,455
helped to install a hopelessly
corrupt regime in the South
686
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:33,789
rig elections
687
00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:36,359
and then send in the first
US advisors to support it.
688
00:41:36,394 --> 00:41:38,560
Congress was in the dark.
689
00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:41,464
Kennedy made plans
for our large-scale involvement
690
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:43,466
as early as 1961.
691
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,901
He authorized the overthrow
of President Diem's regime
692
00:41:45,936 --> 00:41:47,636
and sat by
while Diem was assassinated
693
00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:49,805
in the streets of Saigon.
694
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,008
And then came Johnson
695
00:41:52,043 --> 00:41:54,010
who used the attack
in the Gulf of Tonkin--
696
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:55,644
which, according
to these documents
697
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:57,079
never even took place--
698
00:41:57,115 --> 00:41:59,115
as an excuse to get us
into the war
699
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:01,617
without a formal declaration
from Congress.
700
00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,255
McNaughton secretly knew.
701
00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:08,590
He knew.
702
00:42:08,626 --> 00:42:11,260
And I was the one
who'd been wrong.
703
00:42:11,295 --> 00:42:13,762
The experience
of reading those pages
704
00:42:13,797 --> 00:42:15,764
altered my anatomy.
705
00:42:15,799 --> 00:42:18,000
With each word
706
00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:24,040
my faith, my trust,
and my allegiance burned away.
707
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:30,046
And I was part of the lie.
708
00:42:35,019 --> 00:42:36,685
Even after reading the papers
709
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,954
I still wanted to believe
in the system--
710
00:42:38,989 --> 00:42:41,623
hope that its checks
and balances would prevail.
711
00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,325
It could be fixed from within.
712
00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:45,327
It was clear
access to the President
713
00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:46,695
was no longer an option.
714
00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:49,198
What I needed
was the right ally in Congress.
715
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:50,766
Dr. Ellsberg.
716
00:42:50,801 --> 00:42:54,336
I appreciate you making time,
Senator Fulbright.
717
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:57,206
Please, have a seat.
718
00:42:57,241 --> 00:43:00,943
Senator, your views
against the war
are well known
719
00:43:00,978 --> 00:43:04,012
as is your sense of
honor and integrity.
720
00:43:04,048 --> 00:43:08,317
Well, before you,
uh, you grant me sainthood
721
00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:12,321
I supported
the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
722
00:43:12,356 --> 00:43:14,523
much to my regret now.
723
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:16,525
Senator, I
need your help.
724
00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:19,195
I could only bring
you a sampling.
725
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:23,732
But in total, it is
overwhelming proof
726
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:28,036
of a conspiracy to
wage war without the
approval of Congress
727
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:30,872
or the blessing
of the nation.
728
00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:33,075
What is this?
729
00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,144
It's a study done by
the Defense Department.
730
00:43:35,179 --> 00:43:36,212
It's an
internal study.
731
00:43:36,247 --> 00:43:37,580
Yes.
732
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,681
This is top secret, classified.
733
00:43:39,717 --> 00:43:42,151
I wasn't even aware
of its existence.
734
00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,686
How did it
come into your possession?
735
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:49,191
Well, I...
Is it stolen?
736
00:43:52,096 --> 00:43:55,197
I'll have my office contact
the Secretary of Defense
737
00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:56,565
with an urgent request
738
00:43:56,601 --> 00:43:58,567
for a copy of this
through proper channels.
739
00:43:58,603 --> 00:43:59,935
With all due respect, Senator
740
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,570
they will never honor
your request.
741
00:44:01,606 --> 00:44:03,772
Classified designations
are in place for a reason.
742
00:44:03,807 --> 00:44:05,374
I am not in a position
to controvert
743
00:44:05,409 --> 00:44:06,975
the Defense Department's
assessment.
744
00:44:07,011 --> 00:44:08,744
That's precisely the
position you're in.
745
00:44:08,779 --> 00:44:10,946
You're Chairman
of the Foreign
Relations Committee
746
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,483
and one of Congress's most
outspoken critics of the war.
747
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:15,851
I do want to thank you
748
00:44:15,886 --> 00:44:17,953
for bringing this
to my attention.
749
00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:19,054
It's classified
750
00:44:19,089 --> 00:44:20,756
because if it ever sees
the light of day
751
00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:22,858
they could never explain
the things they've done.
752
00:44:22,893 --> 00:44:24,092
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution
753
00:44:24,128 --> 00:44:26,128
was drafted months before
the supposed attacks.
754
00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:28,497
They created the skirmish
to circumvent your authority.
755
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:29,632
Dr. Ellsberg...
756
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:30,633
I was there.
757
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,900
I saw young Americans die.
758
00:44:31,935 --> 00:44:32,934
I saw Vietnamese die.
759
00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:34,436
I saw the damage
to them, to us
760
00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:36,605
because of what
is contained in
this document.
761
00:44:36,641 --> 00:44:37,839
The evidence is all here.
762
00:44:37,875 --> 00:44:39,941
Our presidents knew
this war was unwinnable
763
00:44:39,977 --> 00:44:41,009
and they kept us in it
764
00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,844
because no one,
Republican or Democrat
765
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,647
wanted to be the first
to lose a war.
766
00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:46,549
And it's going to
go on and on and on
767
00:44:46,584 --> 00:44:48,584
until someone in your
position reads this
768
00:44:48,619 --> 00:44:51,587
acknowledges it and stands up
and says we've been lied to.
769
00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:53,589
We are not on the wrong side
in Vietnam.
770
00:44:53,624 --> 00:44:54,723
We are the wrong side.
771
00:44:54,758 --> 00:45:00,162
Do you realize
that you're asking me--
772
00:45:00,198 --> 00:45:04,667
a United States senator--
to break the law?
773
00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:08,003
To expose
state secrets?
774
00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:14,042
I'm sorry. I can't help you.
775
00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:23,385
Right.
776
00:45:23,421 --> 00:45:24,687
Thank you for your time.
777
00:45:38,436 --> 00:45:40,068
I tried others.
778
00:45:40,104 --> 00:45:42,571
I failed.
779
00:45:42,607 --> 00:45:44,306
I was finally ready to do
780
00:45:44,342 --> 00:45:47,909
what I should have done
a long time before: give up.
781
00:45:47,945 --> 00:45:51,380
Mmm. Eggs scrambled,
eggs over easy
782
00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:55,050
sunny-side up, poached--
that's a big decision, Ellsberg.
783
00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:57,853
Russo. Jesus, where the hell
have you been?
784
00:45:57,888 --> 00:45:59,688
Oh, I've been...
I've been organizing.
785
00:45:59,723 --> 00:46:01,023
Getting the word out.
786
00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:02,558
What word would that be?
787
00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:03,725
Peace.
788
00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:07,463
Hey, you know what?
789
00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:09,765
We're, we're having
a party tonight.
790
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,999
You should come by.
791
00:46:11,035 --> 00:46:13,369
Bring whoever--
your latest conquest.
792
00:46:13,404 --> 00:46:15,971
Swedish stewardess,
nurse...
793
00:46:16,006 --> 00:46:17,939
Uh, whatever happened
to that one in Saigon--
794
00:46:17,975 --> 00:46:19,041
the American girl?
795
00:46:21,345 --> 00:46:22,944
Uh, Patricia Marx?
796
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,713
Yeah.
I don't know.
797
00:46:31,088 --> 00:46:32,921
That's cool. I can dig that.
798
00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:34,323
Whoever, Dan.
799
00:46:34,358 --> 00:46:36,792
Excuse me, ma'am.
Do you got a pen on you?
800
00:46:36,827 --> 00:46:38,927
Thank you very much.
801
00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:40,996
Malibu.
802
00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:43,632
Where the living
is easy.
803
00:46:43,668 --> 00:46:44,667
Thank you.
804
00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:46,202
It's good to see you, Tony.
805
00:46:46,237 --> 00:46:47,336
See you there?
806
00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:49,071
Right on.
807
00:46:49,106 --> 00:46:50,239
Dan Ellsberg.
808
00:47:14,798 --> 00:47:15,831
Hi!
809
00:48:38,816 --> 00:48:41,317
Never thought I'd see
that look on your face.
810
00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:44,520
What?
811
00:48:44,555 --> 00:48:47,289
Doubt.
812
00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:43,612
I've tried
every liberal in Congress.
813
00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:45,080
Fulbright, McGovern,
Pete McCloskey.
814
00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:47,249
Tried to get them read
into the Congressional Record.
815
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:48,950
I tried the Institute
for Policy Studies.
816
00:49:48,986 --> 00:49:50,719
Is there anyone who
hasn't seen this stuff?
817
00:49:50,755 --> 00:49:51,953
Am I the only one?
Kissinger.
818
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,389
Even Kissinger.
819
00:49:53,424 --> 00:49:55,624
We did some sort
of weird dance at Harvard
820
00:49:55,659 --> 00:49:58,460
and we've been doing some sort
of weird dance ever since.
821
00:49:58,496 --> 00:49:59,528
No one will touch it.
822
00:49:59,563 --> 00:50:00,662
"No one will
touch it."
823
00:50:00,698 --> 00:50:02,464
Just hire a friggin' helicopter,
Dan
824
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,867
and drop them out
over Washington and New York.
825
00:50:04,902 --> 00:50:06,101
Bring it to
the people, man.
826
00:50:06,136 --> 00:50:08,604
Tony, quit talking to me
like I'm some kind of radical.
827
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:09,772
Bring them to him.
828
00:50:09,807 --> 00:50:11,673
Bring them to them.
Bring them to her.
829
00:50:11,709 --> 00:50:13,341
Leak them
to the paper of record.
830
00:50:13,377 --> 00:50:14,443
The New York Times.
831
00:50:14,478 --> 00:50:16,612
You think
I haven't thought of that?
832
00:50:18,482 --> 00:50:20,582
You're insane, my friend.
833
00:50:20,618 --> 00:50:21,950
It's classified.
834
00:50:21,985 --> 00:50:23,552
We're talking
about ending the war, Dan.
835
00:50:23,587 --> 00:50:26,922
It's treason.
836
00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:54,716
Hi, everybody.
837
00:50:54,752 --> 00:50:57,753
I want to talk for a few minutes
about how I love my country.
838
00:51:02,493 --> 00:51:03,892
My name's Randy Kehler.
839
00:51:03,928 --> 00:51:07,329
I'm a graduate of Exeter Academy
and Harvard University.
840
00:51:07,364 --> 00:51:09,998
This country depends
on people with my background
841
00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:13,234
to become CEOs of corporations,
uh, serve in public office
842
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:16,004
and make breakthroughs
in both medicine and science.
843
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:17,372
My country
844
00:51:17,407 --> 00:51:19,808
depends on people like me
to lead it
845
00:51:19,844 --> 00:51:22,811
and that's exactly
what I believe I'm doing.
846
00:51:22,847 --> 00:51:25,914
In a few days' time,
I will be going to jail.
847
00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:27,415
Like many of you
848
00:51:27,451 --> 00:51:30,418
I was drafted
and faced a choice
849
00:51:30,454 --> 00:51:33,489
and I don't feel that our cause
in Vietnam is a just one
850
00:51:33,524 --> 00:51:34,890
and I won't fight there.
851
00:51:39,563 --> 00:51:41,196
But I am...
852
00:51:42,366 --> 00:51:43,799
But I am an American
853
00:51:43,834 --> 00:51:47,268
and I refuse to run to safety
in another country
854
00:51:47,304 --> 00:51:50,506
nor will I hide behind the label
"conscientious objector"
855
00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:52,808
where I may be dismissed
as a dilettante
856
00:51:52,843 --> 00:51:54,209
with a passing ideology.
857
00:51:54,244 --> 00:51:55,777
I feel that the best way--
858
00:51:55,813 --> 00:51:57,980
the only way
I can serve my country--
859
00:51:58,015 --> 00:51:59,447
is to sacrifice myself.
860
00:52:01,485 --> 00:52:03,785
When the day comes
that I am released from prison
861
00:52:03,821 --> 00:52:05,086
I'll wear
a permanent mark.
862
00:52:05,122 --> 00:52:07,422
Never will I be a CEO
863
00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:10,492
never will I serve
in office
864
00:52:10,528 --> 00:52:13,061
and never again
will I be trusted by many.
865
00:52:17,001 --> 00:52:20,301
But I'm willing
to surrender these things.
866
00:52:20,337 --> 00:52:23,204
That permanent mark
fixed upon me...
867
00:52:26,209 --> 00:52:28,810
I will wear it with pride.
868
00:53:40,751 --> 00:53:45,988
We were eating our young,
and I realized that at any cost
869
00:53:46,023 --> 00:53:49,491
the country needed
to know the truth.
870
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:56,631
I began to do
what I'd never wanted to do.
871
00:53:56,666 --> 00:53:58,633
The doors were open
24 hours a day
872
00:53:58,668 --> 00:54:00,335
and I developed a routine.
873
00:54:00,370 --> 00:54:04,139
Around midnight I'd leave RAND
with a couple hundred pages.
874
00:54:04,174 --> 00:54:05,640
They knew me.
875
00:54:05,675 --> 00:54:06,975
I was one of them.
876
00:54:34,171 --> 00:54:36,104
Tony Russo's girlfriend,
Lynda
877
00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:39,274
let me use the Xerox machine
at her advertising agency
878
00:54:39,309 --> 00:54:40,608
in West Hollywood.
879
00:54:40,644 --> 00:54:44,112
I'd copy from 1:00 to 4:00
in the morning
880
00:54:44,148 --> 00:54:46,281
sleep for an hour or two
881
00:54:46,316 --> 00:54:48,250
and have them back in the safe
882
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,618
before anyone knew
they were missing.
883
00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:53,021
It was
a seven-days-a-week operation.
884
00:54:53,056 --> 00:54:55,556
Russo assisted me
whenever he could.
885
00:55:04,668 --> 00:55:06,134
This is stupid.
886
00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:08,536
We don't see you for months,
and this is all we do?
887
00:55:08,571 --> 00:55:09,905
Why don't you just
get new papers
888
00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:11,506
without all the stamps
all over them?
889
00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:20,715
Do you know
what "top secret" means?
890
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:22,184
Don't tell Mom?
891
00:55:22,219 --> 00:55:24,485
Hold on.
892
00:55:24,521 --> 00:55:27,689
You know,
I don't want either of you
893
00:55:27,724 --> 00:55:29,791
ever to... lie for me.
894
00:55:29,827 --> 00:55:31,159
Not to Mom
or anybody else.
895
00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:32,393
Okay.
896
00:55:34,031 --> 00:55:35,363
Okay?
897
00:55:37,935 --> 00:55:40,335
Let's get out of here.
898
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:41,837
I'll take this stuff.
899
00:55:41,872 --> 00:55:43,705
You guys throw out
this other junk.
900
00:55:55,252 --> 00:55:57,752
It took months.
901
00:55:57,787 --> 00:56:00,288
I spent my nights
with sunspots in my eyes
902
00:56:00,324 --> 00:56:01,957
from the copier's flash
903
00:56:01,992 --> 00:56:05,393
and my days sleepwalking
on a tightrope.
904
00:56:05,428 --> 00:56:08,663
It took over my life.
905
00:57:09,659 --> 00:57:11,259
All right,
what are you doing up there?
906
00:57:11,295 --> 00:57:13,594
I'm just doing some copying.
907
00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:14,796
At nighttime
908
00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:16,597
with the children
cutting "Top Secret"
909
00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:17,598
off of pages?
910
00:57:17,634 --> 00:57:18,599
I spoke to Mary.
911
00:57:18,635 --> 00:57:20,168
I want the children
out of this.
912
00:57:20,203 --> 00:57:22,470
I will not have them
being part of some crime.
913
00:57:22,505 --> 00:57:24,139
Look, you want to be a hero
914
00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:25,473
be a hero on
your own time.
915
00:57:25,508 --> 00:57:26,908
I'm not trying to be a hero.
916
00:57:26,944 --> 00:57:28,944
I want my children
to know their father.
917
00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,479
Know what he thinks,
what he believes.
918
00:57:31,514 --> 00:57:33,648
I want them to know about
their country that he loves
919
00:57:33,683 --> 00:57:34,816
and hopes they will as well.
920
00:57:34,851 --> 00:57:35,817
That's important.
921
00:57:35,852 --> 00:57:36,818
Important?
922
00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:38,553
You want to hear important?
923
00:57:38,588 --> 00:57:40,655
You're arrested, you're in court
924
00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:43,325
and they call on your son
or your daughter
925
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,327
to testify against you!
926
00:57:45,362 --> 00:57:47,662
They won't tell lies, you know.
927
00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,331
They're going to
tell the truth.
928
00:57:49,366 --> 00:57:51,166
I can only hope
they tell the truth
929
00:57:51,201 --> 00:57:53,201
and love them
the best way that I can.
930
00:57:53,236 --> 00:57:57,038
Only you could use the word
"love" in a conversation
931
00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,773
about breaking the law.
932
00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,508
What the hell happened to you?
933
00:58:17,827 --> 00:58:19,194
Hello?
934
00:58:21,664 --> 00:58:23,298
Patricia, it's Daniel.
935
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:26,468
Is everything okay?
936
00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:29,504
:
Everything's fine.
937
00:58:32,842 --> 00:58:34,309
We were wrong.
938
00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:35,910
I was wrong.
939
00:58:35,945 --> 00:58:38,313
I need your help.
940
00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:49,224
Good night, Dan.
941
00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:09,477
Dan, these men
are with the FBI.
942
00:59:09,513 --> 00:59:11,012
They have some
questions for you.
943
00:59:11,048 --> 00:59:12,713
Of course.
How can I help?
944
00:59:12,749 --> 00:59:16,551
Do you mind showing us
and Dr. Rowen
945
00:59:16,586 --> 00:59:17,952
RAND's copy
of the Vietnam study?
946
00:59:17,987 --> 00:59:19,387
Well, it's locked up
in the safe.
947
00:59:19,423 --> 00:59:21,156
Would you open
the safe, please?
948
00:59:21,191 --> 00:59:24,992
Sure, as long as you have
the proper security clearance.
949
00:59:32,035 --> 00:59:35,470
They're all here.
950
00:59:35,505 --> 00:59:36,804
At any point, Dr. Ellsberg
951
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:39,474
have these documents been
removed from the premises?
952
00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:40,975
That's against RAND policy.
953
00:59:41,010 --> 00:59:43,010
Have you ever photographed
these documents
954
00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:44,579
or any other
sensitive materials?
955
00:59:44,614 --> 00:59:46,147
That's also
against RAND policy.
956
00:59:46,183 --> 00:59:47,982
Answer the question,
please.
957
00:59:48,017 --> 00:59:50,251
The answer is no.
958
00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:56,591
We'll be in touch.
959
01:00:03,366 --> 01:00:06,134
Daniel, the FBI says
they have information
960
01:00:06,169 --> 01:00:07,668
that you're shopping
the papers.
961
01:00:07,704 --> 01:00:09,704
Is that true?
962
01:00:10,873 --> 01:00:12,240
Daniel...
963
01:00:12,275 --> 01:00:14,175
those papers
were given to you to read.
964
01:00:14,211 --> 01:00:15,310
Whatever your feelings
965
01:00:15,345 --> 01:00:16,978
whatever your thoughts
about them
966
01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:18,480
they were to stay
inside RAND.
967
01:00:18,515 --> 01:00:19,780
This is bigger than RAND.
968
01:00:19,816 --> 01:00:20,781
I've read it.
969
01:00:20,817 --> 01:00:22,083
7,000 pages,
47 volumes.
970
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:23,851
Some of that I wrote myself.
971
01:00:23,886 --> 01:00:25,320
That doesn't give you
the right
972
01:00:25,355 --> 01:00:26,321
of ownership, Dan.
973
01:00:26,356 --> 01:00:27,922
Are you shopping
the papers?
974
01:00:27,957 --> 01:00:29,524
Have you read them, Harry?
975
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:30,758
You should.
976
01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:33,194
We've lied for years.
977
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:34,529
For decades.
978
01:00:34,564 --> 01:00:37,031
To each other, the country,
the Vietnamese.
979
01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:39,100
The policymakers have.
The presidents have.
980
01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:40,701
We all have,
since the beginning.
981
01:00:40,737 --> 01:00:42,203
That's what the papers
are about.
982
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:44,038
The history of lies.
983
01:00:44,073 --> 01:00:45,607
But it's all right
for you to lie
984
01:00:45,642 --> 01:00:47,875
because you're serving
some high moral purpose.
985
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:49,710
Let me tell you something, Dan.
986
01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:51,479
All lies are betrayal.
987
01:00:51,515 --> 01:00:52,680
All of them.
988
01:00:52,715 --> 01:00:55,350
If you've gone outside RAND,
if you betrayed that trust
989
01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:57,685
you're going to bring down
a lot of good people.
990
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,388
I find that unconscionable
and unforgivable.
991
01:01:00,423 --> 01:01:02,056
So does this war.
Yeah, right.
992
01:01:02,091 --> 01:01:03,458
You've always said you wanted
993
01:01:03,493 --> 01:01:05,326
to serve the president
and the country.
994
01:01:05,362 --> 01:01:06,827
I don't believe it for a minute.
995
01:01:06,863 --> 01:01:08,530
You just wanted
to serve yourself.
996
01:01:12,035 --> 01:01:14,802
Is that job offer from MIT
still on the table?
997
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:21,042
Take it.
998
01:01:46,603 --> 01:01:48,369
Your door was open.
999
01:01:52,509 --> 01:01:54,175
You want to help me
with my bags?
1000
01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:55,843
They're outside
the front door.
1001
01:02:28,378 --> 01:02:30,378
What are you doing?
1002
01:02:34,884 --> 01:02:36,384
Well...
1003
01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:39,654
...there seems to be an elephant
in the room with us.
1004
01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:41,922
You've got nearly 7,000 pages
to read.
1005
01:02:41,958 --> 01:02:43,157
Did you read them all?
1006
01:02:43,192 --> 01:02:44,191
Twice.
1007
01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:46,193
Mm.
1008
01:02:46,229 --> 01:02:49,330
Well, I figure
with a lot of coffee...
1009
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,369
...and a lot of making love...
1010
01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,771
I will, too.
1011
01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,642
Wake me up when you get
to the lovemaking part.
1012
01:03:01,678 --> 01:03:03,811
Yeah.
1013
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,027
This war was wrong
from the start
1014
01:03:20,062 --> 01:03:21,863
and it just keeps growing
exponentially.
1015
01:03:21,898 --> 01:03:24,365
It's not about the war;
it's not about Vietnam.
1016
01:03:24,401 --> 01:03:26,033
It's never been about Vietnam.
1017
01:03:26,068 --> 01:03:28,202
It's always been
about domestic politics.
1018
01:03:28,237 --> 01:03:30,371
How to stay in office,
win the election.
1019
01:03:30,407 --> 01:03:31,873
The fear has always been
1020
01:03:31,908 --> 01:03:33,875
if you lose there,
you lose here.
1021
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:35,943
So it's escalating,
just like '64.
1022
01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:38,880
Nixon's quadrupled the number
of bombing sorties
1023
01:03:38,915 --> 01:03:40,515
and crossed into Cambodia.
1024
01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:44,519
Dan, this administration
has nothing to gain
1025
01:03:44,554 --> 01:03:48,956
and everything to lose
if these papers come out.
1026
01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:51,559
Peace isn't a political goal.
1027
01:03:51,594 --> 01:03:53,227
It's a human goal.
1028
01:03:56,566 --> 01:03:59,166
Just being around me
puts you at risk, Patricia.
1029
01:03:59,201 --> 01:04:01,201
I know.
1030
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:06,206
I'm not going anywhere.
1031
01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:11,045
Marry me.
1032
01:04:29,466 --> 01:04:32,800
Albert Spear, Hitler's
chief engineer and architect
1033
01:04:32,836 --> 01:04:34,669
manufactured the munitions.
1034
01:04:34,704 --> 01:04:38,405
He was the only Nazi tried
at Nuremberg to admit his guilt
1035
01:04:38,441 --> 01:04:39,740
for his complicity
1036
01:04:39,776 --> 01:04:42,343
for taking part
in the creation of a...
1037
01:04:42,378 --> 01:04:44,812
depraved and evil apparatus.
1038
01:04:44,848 --> 01:04:48,048
He acknowledged
he was just as guilty
1039
01:04:48,084 --> 01:04:52,419
as the men who used the system
to commit genocide.
1040
01:04:52,455 --> 01:04:57,091
I knew firsthand
how we got into this war.
1041
01:04:57,126 --> 01:05:02,129
I knew firsthand
our prospects were hopeless
1042
01:05:02,164 --> 01:05:06,066
and I knew
it was not going to end.
1043
01:05:23,953 --> 01:05:26,253
New York Times,
Washington Desk.
1044
01:05:26,289 --> 01:05:28,289
Uh, Neil Sheehan.
1045
01:05:31,594 --> 01:05:33,127
Sheehan.
1046
01:05:34,497 --> 01:05:36,097
Hello?
1047
01:05:37,366 --> 01:05:39,967
Who is this?
1048
01:05:42,906 --> 01:05:44,305
This is Daniel Ellsberg.
1049
01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:45,472
A few years ago you said
1050
01:05:45,508 --> 01:05:47,274
if I ever had a good story,
you'd write it.
1051
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:48,676
Yeah, I remember.
1052
01:05:51,314 --> 01:05:52,980
I've got one.
1053
01:05:54,784 --> 01:05:57,418
What do you know
about the Pentagon's war study?
1054
01:05:57,453 --> 01:05:59,821
Nothing. No one's seen it.
1055
01:05:59,856 --> 01:06:02,190
That could change.
1056
01:06:16,405 --> 01:06:17,972
You realize I can't make
any commitment
1057
01:06:18,007 --> 01:06:19,707
that we'll publish this
until I've read it
1058
01:06:19,743 --> 01:06:20,808
and my editors
have read...
1059
01:06:20,844 --> 01:06:21,809
How long will
that take?
1060
01:06:21,845 --> 01:06:23,144
There's no telling.
1061
01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:24,812
We'll have to confirm
its authenticity...
1062
01:06:24,848 --> 01:06:25,880
They're authentic.
1063
01:06:25,915 --> 01:06:28,149
...merits, and there
still could be some resistance.
1064
01:06:28,184 --> 01:06:29,851
Resistance?
On what grounds?
1065
01:06:29,886 --> 01:06:31,685
I mean, this
incomprehensible.
1066
01:06:31,721 --> 01:06:33,454
I mean, this is
a huge story.
1067
01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:35,456
These are classified
internal documents
1068
01:06:35,491 --> 01:06:36,523
leaked in a time of war.
1069
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,060
An undeclared, endless,
sickening killing war.
1070
01:06:39,095 --> 01:06:40,394
That is not the point.
1071
01:06:40,429 --> 01:06:41,695
That is the point.
1072
01:06:54,177 --> 01:06:55,509
Look, I'm just warning you
1073
01:06:55,544 --> 01:06:57,245
there are bound
to be some debate
1074
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,248
over the legality and wisdom
of going to press with this.
1075
01:07:00,283 --> 01:07:01,482
Good, there should be debate--
1076
01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:03,751
about the legality and the
wisdom of what it says in them.
1077
01:07:06,389 --> 01:07:08,823
Complete,
the study is 47 volumes.
1078
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:09,991
There's 43 upstairs.
1079
01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:11,358
I've held back anything
1080
01:07:11,394 --> 01:07:13,227
that includes
secret codification
1081
01:07:13,263 --> 01:07:15,462
troop positions,
and any other material
1082
01:07:15,498 --> 01:07:17,899
that I feel compromises
national security.
1083
01:07:17,934 --> 01:07:19,801
You mind if I ask
you a question?
1084
01:07:19,836 --> 01:07:22,736
What do you want
out of all this?
1085
01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:26,941
I want to get in the way
of the bombing and killing.
1086
01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:20,527
Patricia?
1087
01:08:20,563 --> 01:08:21,896
I'm here.
1088
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:26,734
Nixon danced last night
at Tricia's wedding.
1089
01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:28,635
Gosh, that's
a scary thought.
1090
01:08:28,671 --> 01:08:30,371
Here's another
funny story
1091
01:08:30,406 --> 01:08:32,706
you might be interested in.
1092
01:08:35,011 --> 01:08:36,710
Oh, my gosh...
1093
01:08:38,147 --> 01:08:39,613
I don't believe it.
1094
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:44,718
There's no going back now.
1095
01:08:44,754 --> 01:08:47,721
Well, somebody
had to tell the truth.
1096
01:08:59,936 --> 01:09:02,270
Jesus Christ!
1097
01:09:02,305 --> 01:09:04,372
...news was overshadowed
1098
01:09:04,407 --> 01:09:06,640
by the appearance
in today's New York Times
1099
01:09:06,675 --> 01:09:08,175
of an apparently covert study
1100
01:09:08,211 --> 01:09:10,111
outlining our involvement
in Vietnam.
1101
01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:12,113
No reaction as of yet
from the White House...
1102
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,281
All right!
1103
01:09:13,316 --> 01:09:16,250
That's the way to do it!
1104
01:09:18,354 --> 01:09:21,288
The New York Times
is finished at the White House.
1105
01:09:21,324 --> 01:09:23,557
We can't have any more
of these goddamn leaks.
1106
01:09:23,592 --> 01:09:24,825
Some kind of special unit
1107
01:09:24,861 --> 01:09:26,626
should be put together
to see to it.
1108
01:09:26,662 --> 01:09:27,962
Plumbers.
1109
01:09:27,997 --> 01:09:29,696
To fix the leaks.
1110
01:09:29,732 --> 01:09:32,432
Where does the president
want us to go from here?
1111
01:09:32,468 --> 01:09:34,869
The Times is preparing
the next installment
1112
01:09:34,904 --> 01:09:36,070
as we speak.
1113
01:09:36,105 --> 01:09:38,105
And we cannot allow
that to happen.
1114
01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:41,175
I can ask the Times
to voluntarily cease and desist
1115
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:42,709
from publication.
1116
01:09:42,745 --> 01:09:46,313
If they refuse,
we'll take the gloves off.
1117
01:09:46,349 --> 01:09:49,049
Justice can enjoin them
from publishing further.
1118
01:09:49,085 --> 01:09:50,384
Stop the presses?
1119
01:09:50,419 --> 01:09:52,719
Is that done?
Has that ever been done?
1120
01:09:54,656 --> 01:09:55,990
No.
1121
01:09:59,395 --> 01:10:01,395
Set it in motion.
1122
01:10:02,698 --> 01:10:05,032
Where did the Times
get the Pentagon study?
1123
01:10:05,067 --> 01:10:06,867
The FBI has a suspect.
1124
01:10:06,903 --> 01:10:08,468
Daniel Ellsberg.
1125
01:10:08,504 --> 01:10:09,503
Who is he?
1126
01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:10,570
They're working on it.
1127
01:10:10,606 --> 01:10:12,239
Well, find out
and neutralize him.
1128
01:10:13,675 --> 01:10:14,942
Take right.
1129
01:10:14,977 --> 01:10:16,510
Got it.
1130
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:18,678
Bedroom's clear.
1131
01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:21,382
Kitchen's clear.
1132
01:10:23,419 --> 01:10:25,185
Clear.
1133
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:26,220
Ellsberg's gone.
1134
01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:27,454
The place is empty.
1135
01:10:31,727 --> 01:10:32,960
Here's the last one.
1136
01:10:44,873 --> 01:10:47,541
You know, you guys are
the first people ever to knock.
1137
01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:49,243
May we come in, Mr. Russo?
1138
01:10:49,278 --> 01:10:52,012
No, no, no.
I'll come out.
1139
01:10:53,715 --> 01:10:57,851
We want to talk to you
about Daniel Ellsberg.
1140
01:10:57,886 --> 01:11:01,021
Well, I don't wish
to talk to you.
1141
01:11:01,057 --> 01:11:03,057
Do you have a lawyer?
1142
01:11:04,226 --> 01:11:06,994
You better get one.
1143
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:15,302
Carol Ellsberg?
1144
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:30,417
Did you know that your
Top Secret Control Officer
1145
01:11:30,453 --> 01:11:31,718
was sleeping with him?
1146
01:11:31,753 --> 01:11:33,253
That's none
of my business.
1147
01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:36,190
It is if she was involved
in copy and distribution.
1148
01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:38,658
She had absolutely
nothing to do with this.
1149
01:11:38,694 --> 01:11:41,028
And what did you have to do
with it?
1150
01:11:41,063 --> 01:11:42,329
Nothing whatsoever.
1151
01:11:42,365 --> 01:11:44,231
Excuse me.
1152
01:11:49,271 --> 01:11:52,172
The Times declined our request
to cease and desist.
1153
01:11:52,208 --> 01:11:54,908
Put a muzzle on
the sons of bitches.
1154
01:11:54,943 --> 01:11:56,643
What about Ellsberg?
1155
01:11:56,678 --> 01:11:59,380
Kissinger thinks
he's brilliant, but unbalanced.
1156
01:11:59,415 --> 01:12:01,148
It's obvious
that he's flipped.
1157
01:12:01,183 --> 01:12:02,449
From hawk to peacenik.
1158
01:12:02,485 --> 01:12:04,118
They think
it could be drugs.
1159
01:12:04,153 --> 01:12:05,319
Is he alone in this?
1160
01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:07,854
He married a very rich girl,
Patricia Marx--
1161
01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:08,855
Marx Toy Company.
1162
01:12:08,891 --> 01:12:10,290
Hoover knows her father.
1163
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,659
Christ! No wonder
the FBI can't find him.
1164
01:12:12,694 --> 01:12:14,328
They're probably
not looking.
1165
01:12:14,363 --> 01:12:16,463
Well, they say
he's gone underground.
1166
01:12:16,499 --> 01:12:18,565
Could he be talking
to the Russians?
1167
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,667
Chinese?
1168
01:12:20,702 --> 01:12:22,136
How much
does he know?
1169
01:12:22,171 --> 01:12:24,804
How badly can the son
of a bitch hurt us?
1170
01:12:26,742 --> 01:12:28,642
We should've never have gone
to press
1171
01:12:28,677 --> 01:12:30,077
with this in the first place.
1172
01:12:30,112 --> 01:12:32,546
For crying out loud,
it's the First Amendment
1173
01:12:32,581 --> 01:12:34,515
to the Constitution
of the United States!
1174
01:12:39,188 --> 01:12:40,154
Hello?
1175
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:41,221
Dan, it's Sheehan.
Yeah.
1176
01:12:41,257 --> 01:12:43,257
We're pulling the next segment
on the papers.
1177
01:12:43,292 --> 01:12:44,491
What are you talking about?
1178
01:12:44,527 --> 01:12:46,260
It's coming directly
from the Oval Office.
1179
01:12:46,295 --> 01:12:47,794
They're not going
to arrest the entire staff
1180
01:12:47,829 --> 01:12:49,396
of The New York Times.
Just keep printing it.
1181
01:12:49,432 --> 01:12:50,564
You're not listening to me, Dan.
1182
01:12:50,599 --> 01:12:51,665
They stopped the presses.
1183
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:53,767
Well, they did.
That's illegal.
They can't do that.
1184
01:12:53,802 --> 01:12:55,269
We've been enjoined
for prior restraint.
1185
01:12:55,304 --> 01:12:56,270
We've pulled the story.
1186
01:12:56,305 --> 01:12:58,105
Nixon had Mitchell claim
Print it anyway!
1187
01:12:58,140 --> 01:13:00,207
that publication is a grave
threat to national security.
1188
01:13:00,242 --> 01:13:01,841
Bullshit! Nixon and Mitchell
are a goddamn threat
1189
01:13:01,877 --> 01:13:02,943
to national security.
1190
01:13:02,978 --> 01:13:04,844
Don't tell me that!
There's nothing we can do!
1191
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,580
We can't do it!
You can print the story!
1192
01:13:06,615 --> 01:13:07,214
It's over, Dan!
1193
01:13:07,249 --> 01:13:08,082
It's not over!
1194
01:13:08,117 --> 01:13:09,116
You'll have to find another way
1195
01:13:09,151 --> 01:13:10,117
to get them out.
1196
01:13:10,152 --> 01:13:11,318
Sheehan!
1197
01:13:11,353 --> 01:13:12,319
Wait...
1198
01:13:12,354 --> 01:13:13,454
Shit!
1199
01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:19,560
Shit.
1200
01:13:25,901 --> 01:13:27,367
What are you doing?
1201
01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:29,836
Excuse me!
What are you doing?!
1202
01:13:50,859 --> 01:13:52,626
...allied forces in Vietnam...
1203
01:13:52,661 --> 01:13:55,329
Dan, you've been
on every news channel.
1204
01:13:55,364 --> 01:13:58,265
They're calling them
the "Pentagon Papers"
1205
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,701
and the FBI has named you
as the probable source.
1206
01:14:01,737 --> 01:14:03,504
The manhunt's nationwide.
1207
01:14:03,539 --> 01:14:05,739
They know everything about you.
1208
01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:07,174
They know
what school you went to
1209
01:14:07,209 --> 01:14:08,808
how long you were there,
your family.
1210
01:14:08,844 --> 01:14:10,010
They know about me...
1211
01:14:10,045 --> 01:14:12,279
Nixon got a court order
enjoining The New York Times
1212
01:14:12,314 --> 01:14:13,280
to cease publication.
1213
01:14:13,315 --> 01:14:14,281
He did what?
1214
01:14:14,316 --> 01:14:15,315
The Times
pulled the story.
1215
01:14:15,351 --> 01:14:16,850
I called The Washington Post.
1216
01:14:16,885 --> 01:14:18,585
They're flying up to get a copy.
1217
01:14:18,621 --> 01:14:20,254
Will they be able
to go to press
1218
01:14:20,289 --> 01:14:22,356
after what's happened
to the Times?
1219
01:14:22,391 --> 01:14:23,823
I don't know.
1220
01:14:23,859 --> 01:14:25,259
What if they don't?
1221
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:26,260
I don't know.
1222
01:14:26,295 --> 01:14:27,827
I mean, how can they?
1223
01:14:27,863 --> 01:14:30,030
If Nixon can stop
the Times...
1224
01:14:30,065 --> 01:14:34,234
I don't know, Patricia!
I don't know!
1225
01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:36,670
...with Saigon
the main objective.
1226
01:14:39,408 --> 01:14:41,341
We're not
just going to give up.
1227
01:14:41,377 --> 01:14:42,809
...a few major battles.
1228
01:14:42,844 --> 01:14:45,779
The third of six days of action
has been heavy.
1229
01:14:45,814 --> 01:14:48,014
The allies estimate
they have killed
1230
01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:50,784
more than 6,000 enemy troops
in that period.
1231
01:14:50,819 --> 01:14:53,654
American casualties
are put at 360 dead
1232
01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:55,822
and more than 1,000 wounded.
1233
01:14:55,857 --> 01:14:58,758
I didn't say anything
about giving up.
1234
01:14:58,794 --> 01:15:01,628
...South Vietnamese
have been killed.
1235
01:15:01,664 --> 01:15:03,664
Good evening.
Publication of parts
1236
01:15:03,699 --> 01:15:05,832
of the 47-volume,
top secret history
1237
01:15:05,867 --> 01:15:07,867
of American involvement
in Vietnam
1238
01:15:07,903 --> 01:15:10,837
has triggered a major
constitutional legal battle
1239
01:15:10,872 --> 01:15:13,807
over government secrecy
and freedom of the press.
1240
01:15:13,842 --> 01:15:16,677
The man most frequently
suggested as the source
1241
01:15:16,712 --> 01:15:19,646
for the Pentagon documents
is Daniel Ellsberg, 40
1242
01:15:19,682 --> 01:15:22,683
PhD with honors, one-time
Marine, now a researcher
1243
01:15:22,718 --> 01:15:25,151
at Massachusetts Institute
of Technology.
1244
01:15:25,187 --> 01:15:28,322
Ellsberg was a Pentagon
and State Department analyst
1245
01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:29,989
during the Vietnam buildup.
1246
01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:32,459
Later, he worked
on the now-controversial
1247
01:15:32,494 --> 01:15:34,094
Pentagon study of the war.
1248
01:15:34,129 --> 01:15:37,364
Perhaps because of his clearly
delicate legal position
1249
01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:39,966
he will not talk right now
of whatever part
1250
01:15:40,001 --> 01:15:42,869
he played in the release
of the secret documents
1251
01:15:42,904 --> 01:15:44,070
but he talks freely
1252
01:15:44,106 --> 01:15:46,840
of what he hopes
their release will accomplish
1253
01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:49,075
and what turned him
from hawk to dove
1254
01:15:49,111 --> 01:15:52,312
such as what he believes was
official coldheartedness
1255
01:15:52,348 --> 01:15:54,715
towards civilian casualties
in the war.
1256
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:58,752
Fact is, in the seven
to 10,000 pages of this study
1257
01:15:58,787 --> 01:16:01,755
I don't think
there is a line in them
1258
01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:05,925
that contains an estimate
of the likely impact
1259
01:16:05,961 --> 01:16:08,695
of our policy
on the overall causalities
1260
01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,065
among the Vietnamese,
the refugees to be caused...
1261
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,268
I'll get some men
over to CBS right away.
1262
01:16:14,303 --> 01:16:15,869
It won't do
any good.
1263
01:16:15,904 --> 01:16:17,971
They're doing the interview
at some secret location.
1264
01:16:18,006 --> 01:16:20,774
My father had
a favorite line in the Bible
1265
01:16:20,809 --> 01:16:23,610
which I used to hear
a great deal when I was a kid.
1266
01:16:23,646 --> 01:16:26,079
"The truth shall make you free."
1267
01:16:26,114 --> 01:16:28,715
And I hope that
the truth that's out now
1268
01:16:28,751 --> 01:16:33,487
that's out of the safes--
and there is no way, no way
1269
01:16:33,522 --> 01:16:35,389
to get it back into the safes--
1270
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:37,824
I hope that truth
will free us of this war.
1271
01:16:37,859 --> 01:16:41,361
I hope that we will
put this war behind us
1272
01:16:41,397 --> 01:16:43,096
and we'll learn from it
in such a way
1273
01:16:43,131 --> 01:16:46,132
that the history
of the next 20 years
1274
01:16:46,168 --> 01:16:49,869
will read nothing like the
history of the last 20 years.
1275
01:17:04,086 --> 01:17:06,086
The Appellate Court
stepped aside.
1276
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:09,490
Times and the Post
vs. The United States
1277
01:17:09,525 --> 01:17:12,425
have been bumped up
to the Supreme Court.
1278
01:17:12,461 --> 01:17:14,561
They start
in the morning.
1279
01:17:17,165 --> 01:17:19,933
We've done all we can.
1280
01:17:25,374 --> 01:17:27,207
I think it's time
for me to go in.
1281
01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:33,246
I wasn't ready
to hear you say that.
1282
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:36,917
We just heard
that Senator Gravel
1283
01:17:36,952 --> 01:17:39,152
of Alaska was prevented
from reading the paper
1284
01:17:39,187 --> 01:17:40,420
on the Senate floor.
1285
01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:44,057
It's up to the Supreme Court,
the First Amendment issue.
1286
01:17:44,092 --> 01:17:46,493
Dan, let's talk
about your case.
1287
01:17:46,529 --> 01:17:49,129
So, where do we stand?
1288
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:50,764
Charges against you
will include
1289
01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:52,232
stealing government
property
1290
01:17:52,267 --> 01:17:54,234
receiving, communicating
and retaining
1291
01:17:54,269 --> 01:17:55,736
national defense documents.
1292
01:17:55,771 --> 01:17:58,872
Conspiracy, multiple violations
of the Espionage Act.
1293
01:17:58,908 --> 01:18:00,173
Possibly even treason.
1294
01:18:00,208 --> 01:18:01,975
We really can't tell
how far they'll go.
1295
01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,345
Sounds like I'm in
for a slap on the wrist.
1296
01:18:05,380 --> 01:18:07,714
What's the worst
that could happen?
1297
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:09,449
There's no reason
to sugarcoat this.
1298
01:18:09,484 --> 01:18:11,117
A lot of people are
extremely grateful to you
1299
01:18:11,153 --> 01:18:12,185
for what you've done
1300
01:18:12,220 --> 01:18:14,254
but Dick Nixon
is not one of them.
1301
01:18:14,289 --> 01:18:15,923
Apparently, the more
he thinks about it
1302
01:18:15,958 --> 01:18:17,424
the more outraged...
Um...
1303
01:18:17,459 --> 01:18:19,593
Short of the death penalty
1304
01:18:19,628 --> 01:18:21,628
life in prison is probably
what they'll shoot for.
1305
01:18:26,435 --> 01:18:28,301
The sooner you
turn yourself in
1306
01:18:28,336 --> 01:18:32,573
the sooner we can
start fighting.
1307
01:18:32,608 --> 01:18:35,576
Let's arrange for my surrender.
1308
01:18:49,324 --> 01:18:51,692
Step back, please.
1309
01:18:53,495 --> 01:18:55,261
Dr. Ellsberg, comment
on the indictment
1310
01:18:55,297 --> 01:18:57,931
the Attorney General read
against you this morning.
1311
01:18:57,967 --> 01:18:59,332
Eleven counts.
1312
01:18:59,367 --> 01:19:01,201
You could get more
than 100 years.
1313
01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:04,270
I don't regret
releasing the papers
1314
01:19:04,306 --> 01:19:06,840
only that so many lives
might have been saved
1315
01:19:06,875 --> 01:19:08,441
if I'd only done it sooner.
1316
01:19:08,477 --> 01:19:10,077
Dr. Ellsberg,
one more comment.
1317
01:19:10,112 --> 01:19:11,244
One more comment!
1318
01:19:33,002 --> 01:19:34,434
You have the right
to remain silent
1319
01:19:34,469 --> 01:19:35,669
and refuse
to answer questions.
1320
01:19:35,704 --> 01:19:36,670
Do you understand?
1321
01:19:36,705 --> 01:19:38,404
Yes.
1322
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:40,473
Any thing you say
may be used against you
1323
01:19:40,509 --> 01:19:42,142
in a court of law,
you understand?
1324
01:19:42,177 --> 01:19:44,144
Yes.
1325
01:19:44,179 --> 01:19:45,912
You have the right
to consult an attorney
1326
01:19:45,948 --> 01:19:47,247
before speaking
with the police
1327
01:19:47,282 --> 01:19:49,616
and to have an attorney present
now and in the future.
1328
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:50,717
You understand all that?
1329
01:19:50,753 --> 01:19:52,152
Yes.
1330
01:19:55,824 --> 01:19:57,057
Both sides seemed
to score points
1331
01:19:57,092 --> 01:19:58,725
with the justices
in oral arguments today.
1332
01:19:58,761 --> 01:20:00,794
The government stressed
the sensitive nature
1333
01:20:00,829 --> 01:20:02,162
of the Pentagon Papers
1334
01:20:02,197 --> 01:20:05,132
and the risk to our troops
abroad by their publication.
1335
01:20:05,167 --> 01:20:07,901
Lawyers for The New York Times
and Washington Post
1336
01:20:07,936 --> 01:20:10,671
countered that the papers
are a historical record
1337
01:20:10,706 --> 01:20:13,573
which poses no danger
to soldiers overseas
1338
01:20:13,608 --> 01:20:16,342
and which the public here
at home has a right to read.
1339
01:20:16,378 --> 01:20:18,578
The case
was submitted late today.
1340
01:20:18,613 --> 01:20:21,848
A ruling could be handed down
at any time.
1341
01:20:34,963 --> 01:20:36,596
Yeah?
1342
01:20:36,631 --> 01:20:38,464
I'm on my way.
1343
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:40,167
Decision's in.
1344
01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:55,348
The Court has reached
a decision.
1345
01:20:55,383 --> 01:20:58,051
The Majority Opinion
will now be distributed.
1346
01:21:07,930 --> 01:21:08,962
Dan...
1347
01:21:08,997 --> 01:21:10,296
What happened?
1348
01:21:10,332 --> 01:21:11,832
The Supreme Court--
1349
01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:14,500
they ruled six to three
1350
01:21:14,536 --> 01:21:17,670
and the papers are going
to press as we speak.
1351
01:21:22,244 --> 01:21:24,711
And we've posted bail.
1352
01:21:24,747 --> 01:21:27,013
So we're going to be able
to put all this behind us
1353
01:21:27,049 --> 01:21:29,249
and with the publication
of the papers
1354
01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:30,851
they're now legal,
so...
1355
01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:33,386
I mean, what law
have you broken, Dan?
1356
01:21:40,295 --> 01:21:42,929
This has nothing
to do with my case.
1357
01:21:42,965 --> 01:21:45,565
They're still going
to try me for treason.
1358
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,401
Let me see the decision.
1359
01:21:48,436 --> 01:21:50,771
It's Justice Black's opinion.
1360
01:21:55,244 --> 01:21:56,409
"In the First Amendment
1361
01:21:56,444 --> 01:21:58,278
"the Founding Fathers
gave the press
1362
01:21:58,313 --> 01:21:59,846
"a protection they must have
1363
01:21:59,882 --> 01:22:01,915
"to fulfill its role
in our democracy
1364
01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:04,651
"and paramount among
the duties of the free press
1365
01:22:04,686 --> 01:22:06,086
"is the duty to prevent
1366
01:22:06,121 --> 01:22:08,755
"any part of the government
from deceiving the people
1367
01:22:08,791 --> 01:22:10,690
"and sending them off
to distant lands
1368
01:22:10,725 --> 01:22:16,062
"to die of foreign fevers
and foreign shot and shell.
1369
01:22:16,098 --> 01:22:17,297
"Far from deserving
condemnation
1370
01:22:17,332 --> 01:22:18,865
"The New York Times
and Washington Post
1371
01:22:18,901 --> 01:22:21,968
"nobly did precisely that
which the Founders hoped
1372
01:22:22,004 --> 01:22:24,104
"and trusted they would do.
1373
01:22:24,139 --> 01:22:27,974
"The press must be left
free to publish news
1374
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:32,145
whatever the source
without censorship."
1375
01:22:38,586 --> 01:22:42,822
I don't think I'm going
to be back here again.
1376
01:22:42,857 --> 01:22:44,224
Thank you.
1377
01:22:44,259 --> 01:22:46,993
You're welcome,
Daniel.
1378
01:24:03,871 --> 01:24:07,039
Vamos. Abiento.
1379
01:24:15,417 --> 01:24:17,817
So Ellsberg's a national hero
1380
01:24:17,852 --> 01:24:20,786
and The New York Times will
probably win a damn Pulitzer--
1381
01:24:20,822 --> 01:24:23,189
all for stealing
documents.
1382
01:24:23,225 --> 01:24:24,890
These people
are thieves.
1383
01:24:24,926 --> 01:24:26,659
Apparently Ellsberg
had an accomplice.
1384
01:24:26,694 --> 01:24:28,060
We're going after him
as well.
1385
01:24:28,096 --> 01:24:31,998
Believe me, neither will see
the light of day again.
1386
01:24:32,033 --> 01:24:33,199
That's fine
about their trials
1387
01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:35,101
but the President
still wants to get the dirt.
1388
01:24:35,137 --> 01:24:37,370
He wants the son of a bitch
destroyed.
1389
01:24:37,405 --> 01:24:39,105
Morning, Mr. President.
1390
01:24:39,141 --> 01:24:40,540
Morning,
Mr. President.
1391
01:24:40,575 --> 01:24:42,575
Mr. President.
1392
01:24:42,611 --> 01:24:45,978
Our little operation out in
Beverly Hills went smoothly.
1393
01:24:46,014 --> 01:24:49,582
Here's what the Plumbers found
in Dr. Fielding's office.
1394
01:25:04,499 --> 01:25:06,633
Not that it didn't go well
in there today
1395
01:25:06,668 --> 01:25:09,235
and not that I think our trial
is going badly in general
1396
01:25:09,271 --> 01:25:10,370
but which countries
1397
01:25:10,405 --> 01:25:12,572
have non-extradition
policies with the US?
1398
01:25:12,607 --> 01:25:14,140
...special news bulletin.
1399
01:25:14,176 --> 01:25:18,545
Five men were arrested
at 2:30 this morning
1400
01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:19,945
while they were in the process
1401
01:25:19,981 --> 01:25:21,781
of wiretapping
and bugging the offices
1402
01:25:21,816 --> 01:25:24,450
of the Democratic National
Committee at Washington's
1403
01:25:24,486 --> 01:25:27,220
Watergate hotel
and apartment complex.
1404
01:25:27,255 --> 01:25:31,057
The identities of the burglars
remain unanswered at this hour.
1405
01:25:40,802 --> 01:25:42,402
What is it?
1406
01:25:42,437 --> 01:25:44,770
I couldn't sleep.
1407
01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:46,872
Yeah?
1408
01:25:46,908 --> 01:25:49,409
You know,
it hit me today
1409
01:25:49,444 --> 01:25:53,680
that it's been over a year
with your case.
1410
01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:57,016
Sometimes it feels
like it's just...
1411
01:25:57,051 --> 01:25:59,919
never going to end.
1412
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:03,523
Everyone always thought
1413
01:26:03,558 --> 01:26:06,292
I was destined to do something
great with my life.
1414
01:26:06,328 --> 01:26:08,294
Make a mark.
1415
01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:11,231
When my mother
and sister died...
1416
01:26:12,967 --> 01:26:14,967
My fa...
1417
01:26:15,002 --> 01:26:18,304
I only thought of myself.
1418
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:21,608
And when my illusion
of America died
1419
01:26:21,643 --> 01:26:24,677
I did the same thing.
1420
01:26:24,713 --> 01:26:31,150
I wanted to bring the government
and the nation down.
1421
01:26:34,789 --> 01:26:39,492
I loved them, and I was angry,
and they disappointed me.
1422
01:26:44,266 --> 01:26:46,699
I'm going to be remembered
as a traitor.
1423
01:26:46,735 --> 01:26:50,102
My children
will be ashamed
1424
01:26:50,138 --> 01:26:53,906
their name disgraced.
1425
01:27:12,226 --> 01:27:14,193
All rise.
1426
01:27:14,228 --> 01:27:18,164
The Honorable Judge William
Matthew Byrne presiding.
1427
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:19,465
Be seated.
1428
01:27:26,908 --> 01:27:30,242
Commencing on April 26th,
the government has made
1429
01:27:30,278 --> 01:27:32,478
an extraordinary series
of disclosures
1430
01:27:32,514 --> 01:27:35,348
regarding the conduct of
several governmental agencies
1431
01:27:35,383 --> 01:27:38,050
regarding the defendants
in this case.
1432
01:27:38,085 --> 01:27:39,519
It is my responsibility
1433
01:27:39,554 --> 01:27:41,821
to assess the effect
of this conduct
1434
01:27:41,856 --> 01:27:43,889
upon the rights
of the defendants
1435
01:27:43,925 --> 01:27:46,459
and their opportunities
for a fair trial
1436
01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:49,895
with due process of law.
1437
01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:51,331
Along with the country at large
1438
01:27:51,366 --> 01:27:53,933
this court has recently
become aware of a special unit
1439
01:27:53,968 --> 01:27:56,268
that was established,
reporting to the White House
1440
01:27:56,304 --> 01:27:58,237
which undertook
both the burglary
1441
01:27:58,272 --> 01:28:00,340
at the office
of Dr. Lewis Fielding
1442
01:28:00,375 --> 01:28:03,476
and the break-in
at the Watergate Hotel.
1443
01:28:09,417 --> 01:28:12,618
The totality of
the circumstances of this case
1444
01:28:12,654 --> 01:28:14,587
offends a sense of justice.
1445
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:19,225
The bizarre events
have incurably infected
1446
01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:21,293
the prosecution of this case.
1447
01:28:21,329 --> 01:28:25,097
Therefore, I have decided to
declare a mistrial and grant...
1448
01:28:26,801 --> 01:28:29,335
And grant the motion to dismiss.
1449
01:28:38,980 --> 01:28:41,313
Thank God
for Richard Nixon.
1450
01:29:15,483 --> 01:29:19,985
For me as an American,
democracy is sacred
1451
01:29:20,021 --> 01:29:21,888
something worth fighting for.
1452
01:29:21,923 --> 01:29:26,692
And if my own
greatest act of patriotism
1453
01:29:26,728 --> 01:29:29,929
was treason, so be it.
1454
01:29:49,317 --> 01:29:50,717
I think the lesson is
1455
01:29:50,752 --> 01:29:53,586
that the people of this country,
um, can't afford
1456
01:29:53,622 --> 01:29:56,355
to let the President
run the country by himself
1457
01:29:56,391 --> 01:29:59,458
even foreign affairs,
any more than domestic affairs
1458
01:29:59,494 --> 01:30:00,894
without the help of the Congress
1459
01:30:00,929 --> 01:30:02,361
without the help of the public.
1460
01:30:11,706 --> 01:30:15,374
The system shouldn't change,
I think, to begin with.
1461
01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:18,912
Very hard, really,
the way our system operates now
1462
01:30:18,947 --> 01:30:22,481
for a truly frank, honest man
1463
01:30:22,517 --> 01:30:25,284
to stay in that system
indefinitely
1464
01:30:25,319 --> 01:30:28,588
without being weeded out
or fired or made apathetic
1465
01:30:28,623 --> 01:30:31,190
or in effect,
corrupted in the end.
1466
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,132
Good evening.
1467
01:30:40,168 --> 01:30:42,635
A quarter century
of American involvement
1468
01:30:42,671 --> 01:30:44,236
in South Vietnam is over.
1469
01:30:44,272 --> 01:30:46,039
At mid-afternoon, Saigon time
1470
01:30:46,074 --> 01:30:48,407
and armada of 81
US Marine helicopters
1471
01:30:48,443 --> 01:30:50,142
descended on the South
Vietnamese capital.
1472
01:30:50,178 --> 01:30:54,380
More than 6,000 persons
were evacuated
1473
01:30:54,415 --> 01:30:55,748
plucked from
the US Embassy grounds
1474
01:30:55,784 --> 01:30:58,084
from rooftops
throughout the city
1475
01:30:58,119 --> 01:30:59,953
and from the nearby
Tan Son Nhut Airport.
1476
01:30:59,988 --> 01:31:01,754
It was a chaotic scene
in Saigon today
1477
01:31:01,790 --> 01:31:04,323
when those US Marines arrived.
1478
01:31:04,358 --> 01:31:06,993
Hundreds, perhaps thousands,
of South Vietnamese
1479
01:31:07,028 --> 01:31:08,995
fought to get inside the
American Embassy compound
1480
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:12,231
to get on those American
helicopters leaving Saigon.
1481
01:31:12,266 --> 01:31:15,735
Some Vietnamese tried to scale
the ten-foot Embassy walls
1482
01:31:15,770 --> 01:31:17,804
and got caught
on the barbed wire.
1483
01:31:17,839 --> 01:31:19,973
The Vietnamese
cried and shouted
1484
01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:22,742
"We want to go, too,"
and during all this
1485
01:31:22,777 --> 01:31:23,977
inside the American Embassy
1486
01:31:24,012 --> 01:31:26,980
officials were burning
the last of their documents.
1487
01:31:27,015 --> 01:31:28,781
Dan Rather,
CBS News, New York.
1488
01:31:28,817 --> 01:31:30,750
Thank you
for joining us.
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