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(LAUGHTER) 7 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,479 Years ago, people were sent here from Great Britain, 8 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:47,799 served out their sentence 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,399 and then weren't allowed to go back home - they had to stay here. 10 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,999 Now, today, we're much kinder, 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,119 and if you come over here and are convicted of a crime, 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,479 then you get to go back home after your time in prison 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,479 whether you like it or not. (LAUGHTER) 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,959 Now, the New Zealand prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,479 doesn't like that arrangement, 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,999 and had no trouble telling our prime minister - 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,839 Scott Morrison... (LAUGHTER) 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,439 ..during the Australia versus New Zealand press conference 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,719 in Sydney on Friday. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,839 She says that many of these New Zealanders 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,199 have lived here so long, they're Australian. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,519 Now, Scott Morrison says this is not in the national interest. 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,639 And fair enough, too. 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,039 Apart from Russell Crowe, Keith Urban, 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,839 John Clarke, Lorde, 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,639 Sam Neill, Alan Brough, 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,639 Tony Martin, Split Enz, Rebecca Gibney 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,159 and, uh, lamingtons... (LAUGHTER) 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,399 ..when have we ever treated anything from New Zealand as Australian? 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,639 And you know who I blame for all this? 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,519 Well, do you?! 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,679 The Dutch! (LAUGHTER) 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,559 If Willem Janszoon had bothered to circumnavigate 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,839 the whole of our coastline back in 1606, 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,959 he might have included New Zealand as well 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,359 and we'd all be one country now and deportation wouldn't be an issue. 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,479 There's be no jokes about Australian or New Zealand accents, 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,799 because we'd all sound like Rutger Hauer. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,359 (LAUGHTER) 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,479 There'd be windmills everywhere, so no problem generating clean power. 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,879 And we'd all love each other and be relaxed about things 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,159 because of the legalised prostitution and opium. 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,759 (LAUGHTER) 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,679 But no, no, no, Willem Janszoon, probably wacked out on cooj, 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,919 couldn't be bothered finishing the map! 46 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:19,239 Looked at the top bit, thought, 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,039 "Oh, yeah, it's probably half submerged like back home. 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,879 "I'm off. See you later." (LAUGHTER) 49 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,679 So, thanks a lot, Holland, for driving a wedge between 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,799 Jacinda Ardern, one of the most loved world leaders in the world, 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,159 and Scott Morrison, one of the most... 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,119 ..Australian leaders in this country. 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,399 (LAUGHTER) 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,039 So, come on, let's all boo the Netherlands. Everybody, come on! 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,039 (BOOING) 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,519 (LAUGHS) Yes! Fair enough, too. (LAUGHTER) 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,079 Well, coming up a little later on, 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,919 racism in our hospitals over the coronavirus, 59 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,999 with medical staff of Asian appearance targeted by patients. 60 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,319 We talk to a doctor who may have the solution. 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,519 Oh, I... (LAUGHTER) 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,719 I don't want to say what it is just yet, Shaun. 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,479 Let's save it for later on. Yeah, yeah, no. 64 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,279 That's a very, very good idea. 65 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,479 Also, in response to News Corp's claim 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,959 that the ABC is out of touch with ordinary Australians, 67 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,559 we speak with 17th-century French fabulist Jean de la Fontaine 68 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,759 in another language about how to glaze a partridge. 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,239 (LAUGHTER) 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,039 Eh bien, Shaun, c'est tout simple. 71 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,639 Vous prendrez d'abord un grand pot de miel de fourmi... 72 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,639 Oh! (EXCLAIMS) (LAUGHTER) 73 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:27,279 Non! Ah, mes yeux! Aaaarrggggh! 74 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,639 And that's coming up a little later on. 75 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:33,279 Well, Labor's net-zero-emissions-by-2050 target 76 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,959 does have its detractors, 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,079 the not least of which is former reasonable Liberal senator, 78 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,639 Finance Minister Mathias Cormann. 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,959 Just because Anthony Albanese and Mark Butler 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,719 make meaningless pronouncements 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,719 without telling us how they would achieve what they're committing to, 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,519 without telling us about the impact on the budget, the economy, 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,599 on jobs, on living standards, on, you know, wages, 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,999 and indeed on what global emissions would be, 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,359 you know, it means nothing. 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,399 And, I mean, look, I mean, inside the Labor Party, 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,359 there's obviously a growing rebellion 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,919 against this sort of reckless and irresponsible approach 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,079 by Anthony Albanese and Mark Butler... 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 (SNORES) (LAUGHTER) 91 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,519 (SHOCKED LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE) 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,919 Thank you. 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,399 Spokesborg for Mathias Cormann Darius Horsham, is he right? 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Of course he's right! Mathias is always right! 95 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Well, I mean, he wasn't right when he supported Peter Dutton 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,959 in the leadership spill against Malcolm Turnbull. 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,079 No, he wasn't right then, but, uh...that's true... 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,199 And he wasn't right when he accidentally supported 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,479 Pauline Hanson's motion that it's OK to be white. 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,439 Yes, he got that wrong as well... 101 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,439 And look, he was a little off 102 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,239 when he sang 99 Luftballons with Nena that time. 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,679 We have it here. 104 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,479 # Auf neunund... # Neunzig Luftballons 105 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,959 Yoo! Clap your fucking hands! Come on! 106 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,239 (LAUGHTER) 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,319 Alright, alright! He's not always right! 108 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,239 But on this occasion, he is. 109 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,439 You can't commit to something when you don't know 110 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,919 whether you'll have the money to pay for it. 111 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,239 What about the 158 million three-stage tax cut package 112 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,719 you promised before the last election, 113 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,719 stage two of which won't kick in till 2022/23 114 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,799 and stage three in 2024/25? 115 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,399 You don't know what the economy will be like in four to seven years. 116 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,559 You don't even know whether you'll be in government by then. 117 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,679 Shaun, don't shit on my leg and tell me it's a brown kitten! 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,519 They are two completely separate, different things. 119 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,119 One is a thoughtful guesstimate 120 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,399 based on what might happen if everything goes our way, 121 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,919 and the other is an irresponsible pipedream 122 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,439 based on hope for the future. 123 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Mathias's point is that 124 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,039 you can't look at a problem regardless of the cost 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,919 and say, "OK, whatever needs to be done, we'll commit to it." 126 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Well, mmm... 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,039 (LAUGHTER) 128 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,399 But didn't Mathias say this 129 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,679 about the government's role in the bushfire recovery? 130 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,879 There was a very clear and there remains a very clear commitment 131 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,360 to do whatever needs to be done. 132 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,039 Shaun, you are being an economic girly-man! 133 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,679 None of us can predict the future. Things happen. 134 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,879 Arsonists light fires, a Chinese man eats a armadillo, 135 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,079 Peter Dutton doesn't turn out to be as popular as we all thought. 136 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,519 Yes, but I... Listen, if I had a time machine 137 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,919 or some sort of translucent electrical sphere 138 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,039 I could use to travel across the fourth dimension, 139 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,799 I would encourage everyone in the Cabinet to go back 40 years ago 140 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,679 and listen to when those hippie scientists 141 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,879 first warned us about the climate change. 142 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,039 We could come back, formulate some sort of climate change policy, 143 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,959 Malcolm would still be prime minister, 144 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,639 and Mathias wouldn't look so miserable all the time. 145 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,359 Darius Horsham, many thanks. Fantastic. 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,159 But I would like to defend the Prime Minister - 147 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,999 Scott Morrison - if I may. 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,479 Um... (LAUGHTER) 149 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,039 Sorry, I don't understand. 150 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,280 In what way is Scott Morrison like Benny Hill? 151 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,319 (LAUGHTER) 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,839 Well, having been criticised 153 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:55,919 for his tardy response to the bushfire crisis, 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,719 the PM went on the front foot this week, 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,759 declaring a coronavirus emergency in Australia before there even was one. 156 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,639 And this sort of pre-emptive approach 157 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,039 is not new to this government. 158 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,999 Last year, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg declared a budget surplus 159 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,839 before there was one. (LAUGHTER) 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,959 But the thing about the coronavirus outbreak is 161 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,159 that it's the perfect emergency for Scott Morrison, 162 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,639 because the desire to travel overseas in the middle of it 163 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,079 is inherently reduced. (LAUGHTER) 164 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,599 Having said that, I'm not sure 165 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,480 his advice on beating the coronavirus is medically sound: 166 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,079 (LAUGHTER) 167 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,519 So, what is this plan - or, more accurately, 168 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,639 collection of paper held together with a small bulldog clip? 169 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,079 Well, according to this newspaper report... 170 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,879 (LAUGHS) "Newspaper report"! 171 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,879 Sounds so quaint, doesn't it? 172 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,439 According to this newspaper report, 173 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,079 it's a guide for states and territories 174 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,199 to get ready to provide fever clinics and quarantine areas 175 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,839 if there's a community outbreak. 176 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,159 And which areas will get these fever clinics and quarantine areas? 177 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,639 Well, according to these documents, that will depend... 178 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,120 (LAUGHTER) ..on how marginal your seat is. 179 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,519 Speaking of which, despite a damning report from the Auditor-General, 180 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,239 a report from the PMO's Office that hasn't been released, 181 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,719 a report from the Attorney-General, Christian Porter, 182 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,119 that hasn't been delivered, 183 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,719 and an ongoing Senate inquiry, 184 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,479 the sports rorts affair continues not to go away. 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,079 In fact, the more we learn, 186 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,599 the less the PM seems to have known about it originally - 187 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,519 a fitting subject for tonight's Sprortsreprort...Resprortsreport... 188 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,999 (SPORTY STING) 189 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,959 Draymella Burt from the PMO, 190 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,359 136 emails between Bridget McKenzie's office and the PMO 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,759 about sports grants, 192 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,719 the last being from Bridget herself to the PM himself 193 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,359 one day before the election was called, 194 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,159 enclosing pages from the colour-coded spreadsheet 195 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,639 and recommending grants, 196 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,919 73% of which were not recommended by Sports Australia, 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,519 which were next day, when the government was in caretaker mode, 198 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,919 sent to Sports Australia in a letter backdated a week before. 199 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,559 What's your point? (LAUGHTER) 200 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,639 Well, my point is that these sports rorts stink to high heaven. 201 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,560 In fact, it's worse than that. According to Labor's Chris Bowen: 202 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,079 (LAUGHTER) 203 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,159 See? Not "stinks TO high heaven", "stinks FROM high heaven". 204 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,239 Suggesting that all this pork-barrelling 205 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,599 has come from the very top. 206 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,439 Shaun, as Scott said in parliament all last week ad nauseum 207 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,439 and will no doubt continue to say, 208 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,319 the decision-maker in this process was the minister for sport, 209 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,439 not the Prime Minister. 210 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,239 Nor is it, as Chris Bowen seems to be suggesting, God. 211 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,319 As Christian Porter tried to make clear on Scott's behalf, 212 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,319 the Prime Minister cannot be expected to know about these things. 213 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,159 What, the Prime Minister cannot be expected to know 214 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,959 what's going on in the Prime Minister's Office? 215 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,159 Duh! (LAUGHTER) 216 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,839 What, so the PM's not corrupt, he's just incompetent? 217 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,959 Alright, I want to ask you about the PM's meeting with Jacinda Ardern. 218 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Oh, yeah? Alright. 219 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,279 Now, she thinks New Zealanders who have lived over here for many years, 220 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,679 paid their tax and NDIS levy should be entitled to make claims. 221 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:54,799 Shaun, it's bad enough when actual disabled Australians use the NDIS. 222 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,119 The last thing we want is disabled foreigners 223 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,199 taking advantage of our generosity. 224 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,159 Rest assured, though, that any money not claimed 225 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,519 thanks to our Kafkaesque administrative system 226 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,879 is going to a good cause. 227 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,159 What, the surplus? 228 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,319 Well, thanks to diseased Chinese and hard-to-please overseas tourists 229 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,639 who think they're a bit too good to holiday in a pile of charcoal, 230 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,079 we've had to dip into it. 231 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,319 The whole point of having a surplus is that you don't dip into it. 232 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,759 Yeah, well, you seem quite happy 233 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,279 to dip into your surplus Kyoto credits when it suits you! 234 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,039 Ha ha! That told her! 235 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,039 (LAUGHTER) 236 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,919 The decision-maker in that process 237 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,719 is the Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister, 238 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,359 not the Prime Minister. 239 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,519 Oh, shut up! 240 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,319 And to thank you for coming along tonight 241 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,039 and participating in the interview, Draymella, 242 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,479 please accept this Therapy Hornet courtesy of Mad As Hell. 243 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,759 (LAUGHTER) 244 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,879 Relieve anxiety with the calming buzz of a giant European hornet. 245 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,679 May sting you to death if released. 246 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:48,879 Mmm, dat's nice! (CHUCKLES) 247 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,839 (LAUGHTER) Thank you. 248 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,479 To ourselves now, and Australians love to see the little guy win, 249 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,879 and when it comes to underdogs, 250 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,999 you don't get much more under or doglike - as in politically rabid - 251 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,959 than the ABC, which I'm pleased to say has scored a landmark win 252 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,079 by overtaking News.com.au 253 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,919 as Australia's most popular digital news site. 254 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,639 And when you look at the quality of the stories on News.com.au 255 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,680 that Aunty has been up against: 256 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,999 (LAUGHTER) 257 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,999 ..yes, it's a victory to be proud of, isn't it? 258 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,679 So, a round of applause for ourselves, 259 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:58,359 I think, ladies and gentlemen. 260 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,679 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) That's very good. 261 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:02,759 And, um... 262 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,719 And now some booing, because we're getting a bit too full of ourselves. 263 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,759 Just some booing. (BOOING) 264 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,079 And if you've just tuned in, 265 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,759 I did ask the audience to boo just then, I swear. 266 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,839 Now, if you were gonna do an infomercial for extremism, 267 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,599 I think it'd probably go a little bit like this. 268 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,359 I mean, terrorism comes in... uh, and extremism comes in... 269 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,159 ..in many different flavours and many different colours. 270 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,359 (LAUGHTER) 271 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,879 And while the Prime Minister makes extremism sound like ice-cream, 272 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,839 Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton 273 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,919 made it sound slightly less delicious 274 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,959 when he said that there was a need to deal with "left-wing lunatics". 275 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,719 So, more bad news for the ABC there. (LAUGHTER) 276 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,919 Whoo! 277 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,439 Head of culture in the Home Affairs Department Brion Pegmatite, 278 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,639 if, as Mr Dutton says, right-wing lunatics or left-wing lunatics 279 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,159 are a threat to our country, 280 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,439 wouldn't that threat disappear 281 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,479 if we had a minister capable of outsmarting lunatics? 282 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,519 (LAUGHTER) 283 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,079 What? 284 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,839 Well, how stupid are we if lunatics are a threat to us? 285 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,759 Look, it's just what ASIO is telling us. 286 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,199 Our intelligence has got nothing to do with our stupidity. 287 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,159 (LAUGHTER) 288 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,239 Yeah, but when Mr Dutton says... Have you seen the latest Newspoll? 289 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,639 Scott Morrison's approval rating is still trailing Anthony Albanese 290 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,199 as preferred leader. 291 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,919 Well, it's only by a per cent. 292 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,199 It's still enough, Shaun. (LAUGHTER) 293 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,759 You seem very troubled by it. 294 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Oh, no-one enjoys seeing their leader being loathed and despised 295 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,319 by an ever burgeoning proportion of the electorate 296 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,479 intent on punishing the party for his transgressions 297 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,879 and throwing an otherwise good government out of office 298 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,679 unless they do something about it. 299 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:50,399 Well, he has narrowed the gap... 300 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,959 Appalling, multiple transgressions and errors of judgement 301 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,999 that Australians won't forget 302 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,959 because they keep being brought up time and time again, don't they? 303 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,079 Well, they do seem to be, yes. Like the Hawaiian holiday. 304 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,999 Yes, but he's narrowed the gap, though. 305 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,599 He's narrowed the gap, though, by two points. 306 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,479 Given everything going on... No surplus as promised. 307 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,519 Nearly charging coronavirus evacuees 1,000. 308 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,799 Those 136 emails linking his office with the sports rorts affair. 309 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,119 Yeah, I know, but despite all that, he's only 1% away from Albo. 310 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,440 You've got to admire that. 311 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,679 (LAUGHTER) 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,359 Yes...he's...good! 313 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,799 (LAUGHTER) 314 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,719 Well, thanks for your time, Brion. My pleasure. 315 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,039 Where is it? 316 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,680 (LAUGHTER) 317 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,999 Of course, the last thing we want to do on this show 318 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,639 is be unfair to Peter Dutton. 319 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,880 (LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE) 320 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,519 Because terrorism is a serious issue, 321 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,519 and we should play the full quote from Peter. 322 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,839 If somebody is going to cause harm to Australians, 323 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,319 I just don't care whether they're on the far right, far left 324 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,599 or somewhere in between - they will be dealt with. 325 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,319 Yes, be wary of the far right and the far left by all means, 326 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,039 but it's those MODERATE extremists we've really got to watch out for. 327 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,239 Well, after the break, it was a car that defined us a nation. 328 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,319 If you weren't eating a pie with one hand, 329 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,799 marking a football in the other 330 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,039 and driving into a kangaroo with the bullbar of your Holden, 331 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,399 you weren't Australian. 332 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,479 But now this - do we now need the Luxury Car Tax, 333 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,959 which applies to vehicles worth more than 67,500, 334 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,839 given we now have no local car industry to protect? 335 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,959 Senator without portfolio Matt Canavan thinks this. 336 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,359 I do think what should be looked at, though, is whether or not 337 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,239 we should be imposing a Luxury Car Tax on our farmers. 338 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,359 The argument presumably being 339 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,239 that farmers HAVE to buy vehicles that cost over 67,500. 340 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,519 Perhaps it's some sort of fetish peculiar to those working the land 341 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,359 that we inner-city latte-drinking types simply don't understand. 342 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,119 MAN: No, well, hang on, hang on. Now, I'd like... Oh, excuse me. 343 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,799 Yes? Yes, the man whose weapon we confiscated earlier? 344 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,999 (LAUGHTER) 345 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,839 Now, hang on a minute, Shaun. Now, I'm an astronaut... 346 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,359 Yes? (LAUGHTER) 347 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,159 ..and I have to have a spaceship to do my job. 348 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,919 Are they gonna do anything about bringing the price of that down? 349 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,799 Yes, well, you don't buy the spaceship, do you? 350 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,999 (SCOFFS) Not with that bloody tax on it, I don't! 351 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 (LAUGHTER) 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,839 Yeah, well, what do you think? Um...about anything generally? 353 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,399 Send your thoughts 354 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,319 to the ABC Because They Like That Sort of Thing, 355 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,919 and you could be in in the running to win a Peter Dutton buttonaire, 356 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,439 with hidden microphone and camera to spy on even your closest friends. 357 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,079 VOICEOVER: Catch up with all your favourite characters 358 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,519 when Call The Midwife returns to ABC. 359 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,439 You're going to be fine, Sister Monica Joan. 360 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,599 Although, you are likely to die soon. 361 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,599 Dr Turner. Who are you? 362 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,959 I'm Sister Julienne. Julienne? 363 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,079 Shouldn't you be chopping vegetables? 364 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,039 I'm delighted to hear you're going to be fine. 365 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,799 He says I'm going to die. 366 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,079 You're a glass-half-empty one, aren't you? 367 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,359 (KNOCK AT DOOR) 368 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:11,360 Who can that be? At two o'clock in the afternoon? 369 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,679 Can I help you? 370 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,559 Come in. Let us help you. You'll be fine. 371 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,360 Although, you could die soon. 372 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,719 Wait! Please! 373 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Let us help you! 374 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,599 Wait. There's no need to be frightened. 375 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,359 I'm just trying to help. 376 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:34,520 Please, let us help you! Something's obviously on your mind! 377 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Wait! Please, let us help you! 378 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Wait! There's nothing to be afraid of! 379 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,599 I am just trying to help you! 380 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,439 Please, let me help you! (SOBS) 381 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,519 Sister! Sister! 382 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,080 What is it? 383 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,080 I think my waters have broken! 384 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,999 Welcome back. Well, Margaret Court - does she have a point? 385 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Should we be... (APPALLED LAUGHTER) 386 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,799 Should we be less tolerant of the LGBTQI community, 387 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,559 and is it reasonable of her church 388 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,519 to set up a consulate for an anti-gay African regime? 389 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,879 Well, the answer might be found 390 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,439 in this touching Clockwork Movement satire duet. 391 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,599 # Margaret Court is not a lesbian 392 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,519 # She's not gay or Presbyterian 393 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,239 # Not a ghost or something sinister 394 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,279 # She's a Pentecostal minister 395 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,079 # She believes that love is not the same 396 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,999 # If it's one that dares not speak its name. # 397 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Tennis is boring and stupid! 398 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,000 (LAUGHTER) 399 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,639 Also ahead in the program, the Greens - 400 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,039 deluded, lying climate alarmists or dangerous anti-business arseholes? 401 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,999 That debate tonight, and most nights, on Sky News After Dark. 402 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,439 (LAUGHTER) 403 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,559 Friday saw Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor 404 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,039 put more flesh on the bones 405 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,719 of the Coalition's technology-led emissions reduction skeleton, 406 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,959 announcing plans to shift investment 407 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,239 from wind and solar to new technologies 408 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,079 as part of a "bottom-up" strategy to reduce emissions by 2050. 409 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,119 And that makes sense... (LAUGHTER) 410 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:28,879 ..ergonomically, given the government's 411 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,959 emissions reduction strategy so far. 412 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,239 I must say, though, that the government's opposition 413 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,199 to Labor's zero-emissions target has been well articulated. 414 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,799 There's no details, there's no plan, 415 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,879 there's no specifissi... s...specificity. 416 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,079 Yes, there's been none of whatever that is. 417 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,879 The Deputy PM also mocked Labor's target. 418 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,439 I challenge those opposite, look a steer or a wether in the eye 419 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,679 and say, "How are you gonna stop your methane?" 420 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,920 (LAUGHTER) 421 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,759 And I think they should, because they'd get a more direct answer 422 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,679 than they would from Michael McCormack. 423 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,519 But on this, how are our emissions going, 424 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,079 if you'll excuse the question? 425 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,039 Well, according to this voiceover, they're... 426 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,119 REPORTER: ..13.1% below 2005 levels. 427 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,239 Which is... 428 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,839 ..not fast enough, warn experts, who estimate at this pace, 429 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,479 it would take Australia 230 years to achieve net zero emissions. 430 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,719 Mmm. Meaning the government's target would be net zero emissions by 2250. 431 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,639 A big year, 2250 - net zero emissions reached 432 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,879 and our fleet of submarines finished being built. 433 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,599 (LAUGHTER) 434 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,159 I look forward to it. 435 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,279 And as for our Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister, we know - 436 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,199 and if we don't, here's a newspaper graphic - 437 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,039 that the AFP has dropped its investigation 438 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,799 into Angus Taylor's use of allegedly forged documents 439 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,079 despite the fact they didn't even interview him. 440 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,119 And I think this was a missed opportunity 441 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,719 to completely exonerate Angus, 442 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,239 because, as we do know from his undeclared business interests, 443 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,359 his intercession on behalf of his brother over poisoned grasslands, 444 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:03,759 liking his own tweets, 445 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,319 misrepresenting our CO2 emissions at the Madrid climate summit 446 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,719 and being completely wrong 447 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,039 about being at Oxford University with Naomi Wolf, 448 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,879 if you're looking for a reliable account of what's gone down, 449 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,199 then Angus is your man. 450 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,399 Well, spokesperson for Angus Taylor Sami Twerb, 451 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,159 does Angus have no intellectual curiosity 452 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,599 as to how a document containing false information 453 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,999 ended up in his office, 454 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,319 which he then attached to a letter to the press and signed his name to? 455 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,559 Nope! Some things are just beyond our comprehension, Shaun. 456 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,959 They just are! 457 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,519 Can we ever really understand a tree? Or a flower? 458 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,959 Or the beauty of a sunset? 459 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,479 No. We just see these things and accept them. 460 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,199 So the allegedly forged document is just one of nature's many miracles? 461 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,959 (LAUGHTER) 462 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,639 It just happened. Let's move on. 463 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,999 Well, look, if we assume that the allegedly forged document 464 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,199 just came into being spontaneously, how did it end up on Angus's desk? 465 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,359 Well, if three children in a grotto in France see the Virgin Mary, 466 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,239 do we ask them where she came from? 467 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,119 No! We just believe them 468 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,679 and use the information that some higher force has provided 469 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,399 to smear a lord mayor. 470 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,039 Well, look, did someone give him the document? He must remember. 471 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,319 Our perceptions are fallible, Shaun. 472 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,199 The fact of the matter is, at the beginning of time, 473 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,599 stuff just came into existence, and it's the same with this document. 474 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,199 There might be an alternate reality where there is an explanation. 475 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,119 I don't know. Like Angus, I don't have all the answers. 476 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,679 Or, indeed, ANY answers. (LAUGHTER) 477 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,879 And that is where we must leave it and focus instead 478 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,159 on affordable energy and pretending to reduce our emissions! 479 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,119 Alright, but you are suggesting, though, a parallel world 480 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,039 where Angus Taylor might be interested 481 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,759 in where the allegedly forged document came from. 482 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,479 Or a world where the document ISN'T forged. Yeah. 483 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,199 Where Clover Moore DID spend millions of dollars 484 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,799 on air travel per year, 485 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,879 and where Angus WASN'T embarrassed and humiliated 486 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,519 by the whole experience. 487 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,759 A world where he and Naomi Wolf knew each other 488 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,759 and jointly won the Nobel Prize for Christmas Trees! 489 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,519 Anything's possible, and I think it's important to keep an open mind. 490 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,999 Is it possible that a staffer forged the document 491 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,999 and Angus was too stupid to realise 492 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,920 that the figures it contained were impossible? 493 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,999 Or POSSIBLE, Shaun. 494 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320 (LAUGHTER) 495 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,999 Thank you, Sami Twerb. 496 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,519 In news just to hand, a stabbing in an outer Adelaide suburb 497 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,039 and an ambulance has left a young man in hospital with leg injuries. 498 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,959 Bovina Jhizquax is there. Bovina? 499 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,319 Yeah, that's right, Shaun. 500 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,359 At around 1:30 here this afternoon, 501 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:48,679 a gang of four youths attacked another young man. 502 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,479 Doug Clump, you live, after a fashion, near the crime scene. 503 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,879 Yeah, that's right. 504 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,359 I was just putting my trousers back on, you know, and cleaning up 505 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,199 and I heard this shouting and...yeah. 506 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,319 A stabbing in broad daylight? It's not what you want, is it? 507 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,399 You'd prefer these stabbings to take place in the dark? 508 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,719 N-no. 509 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,679 What, cloudy conditions or dusk or something? 510 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,399 You want these gangs to be carrying light meters with them? 511 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,799 N-no. No, that's not it... 512 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,199 Well, then why are you upset about it happening in broad daylight? 513 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,079 Well, i-it's just... you don't expect it, you know. 514 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,559 You know, you think you're pretty safe in the middle of the day. 515 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,159 Whereas if you were stabbed in the dark, 516 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,639 you'd think, "Well, fair enough. I deserved that"? 517 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,000 No, it's just, you know... broad daylight, i-it's pretty... 518 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,599 Brazen? Yeah. 519 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,599 Yeah...brazen. 520 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,279 Do you know what 'brazen' means? No. 521 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,719 Do you often use words whose meaning you don't know? 522 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Yes. Like what? 523 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,879 'Postulate'. 'Concomitant'. 'Bucolic'. 524 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,599 But you're concerned about the boldness and the audacity 525 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,999 of the attack? 526 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,999 Yeah. That's right. Yep. 527 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,959 You'd like armed assailants to be more demure? 528 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,319 Yeah, demure. Definitely. 529 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,239 Well, for future reference, this interview has been humbling for you. 530 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,519 Oh. Cheers! Thanks very much. 531 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,679 I resign. Back to you, Shaun. 532 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,239 Thank you, Bovina. 533 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,359 Well, watch out, Scott Morrison - 534 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,439 the Deputy PM has learned a thing or two from you 535 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,319 about being able to ramble on in front of the press 536 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,639 without drawing breath 537 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,159 so that no short, usable sound bite is available for the evening news. 538 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,399 Here's Michael McCormack's - for want of a better word - answer 539 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,279 to a question about the budget surplus. 540 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,639 Yes, a surplus is, uh...is a number that I know that, uh...is important 541 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,399 to get the books back in balance, and that's what we've done. 542 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,199 Uh, Labor, they wouldn't know what the definition of a surplus was. 543 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,799 I mean, they haven't produced one since 1989, 544 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,919 when Cher was singing If I Could Turn Back Time. 545 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,319 Of course, we all remember that vision of her on that navy ship. 546 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,439 I mean, and there you go again - Labor didn't even BUILD a navy ship 547 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,439 in that six years of... six years of opportunity. 548 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,759 Didn't give a ship. 549 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,079 Didn't give a ship at all about making sure 550 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,439 that we built the infrastructure to increase defence capability. 551 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,879 If Labor could only turn back time, who knows what might happen? 552 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,719 (LAUGHTER) 553 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,759 Wow! (LAUGHTER) 554 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,599 He's even more impressive than Scott. 555 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,519 That stream-of-consciousness, beat-poet quality 556 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,559 is rare in somebody not on acid, 557 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,039 isn't it, professor of semiotics and semantics 558 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,039 and holder of the Roland Barthes Chair at Box Hill TAFE, 559 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,959 Ian Orbspider, but what did his answer actually mean? 560 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,159 A fascinating question, Professor Shaun. 561 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,519 Michael McCormack is asked about the surplus, 562 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,199 to which he responds... 563 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,999 A surplus is, uh...is a number that I know that, uh...is important 564 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,919 to get the books back in balance. 565 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,279 And he's right! It IS a number that's important. 566 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,999 But of course, a surplus is MORE than we need to bring about balance. 567 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,719 A balance is achieved by having a number 568 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,039 exactly the SAME as the deficit. 569 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,559 So when he says he knows, he, of course, doesn't! 570 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,999 (LAUGHTER) Alright. And when he says this... 571 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,999 Labor, they wouldn't know what the definition of a surplus was. 572 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 He doesn't know either! (LAUGHTER) 573 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,559 Now, when Michael says Labor haven't produced a surplus since 1989, 574 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,759 when Cher was singing If I Could Turn Back Time on a naval ship, 575 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,519 and that Labor never built a ship in their six years in office 576 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,479 and, in fact, Labor "couldn't give a ship", what does he mean? 577 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,279 That Labor couldn't give a shit. 578 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,799 (LAUGHTER) 579 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,519 And what of his unanswered question 580 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119 as to what, if Labor could turn back time, would happen? 581 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,679 Ah. Well, this is very interesting, Professor Shaun. 582 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,199 Because for Michael to posit 583 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,639 such an outlandish turn of events for us to ponder 584 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,519 is both bold and daring, 585 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,039 but to then simply leave such a question up in the air is dangerous, 586 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,239 for his listeners may come to the conclusion 587 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,679 that Labor might, upon returning to 1989, 588 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,639 take the budget surplus they had created and return with it 589 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,439 not to the present but to two years in the future, 590 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,599 where they could use it 591 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,559 to pork-barrel their own electorates and marginal seats 592 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,079 and win the next election! 593 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Well, Professor Ian Orbspider... 594 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,639 (SCREAMS) (LAUGHTER) 595 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,079 ..many thanks. 596 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,519 Oh, Shaun, before I forget... Yes? 597 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,399 ..can you validate my parking? 598 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,119 Yes, absolutely. (LAUGHTER) 599 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,639 I'll pop that in there for you. There you go. 600 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,319 Thank you, and a safe trip home. 601 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,799 But of course! Yes. Goodbye. 602 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,279 (LAUGHTER) 603 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,319 # Happy Clap along if you feel 604 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,880 # Like a room without a roof... # Arggh! 605 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000 (LAUGHTER) 606 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Well, not coming up because Black Comedy is on in a minute... 607 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,879 Prince Andrew quickly puts his clothes back on 608 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639 when he spots the Queen. 609 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,279 And Pauline Hanson's attitude to the Olympics 610 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,999 pretty much as we all expected. 611 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Send the Olympics back to Athens. 612 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,279 And finally, when asked about the 10 million 613 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,199 taken from a regional sports fund and spent on this North Sydney pool, 614 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,199 our prime minister - Scott Morrison - 615 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,319 split a very interesting hair. 616 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,399 Well, when I announced that program, I said it was Australia-wide. 617 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,759 That's what I said. 618 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,599 And it's, um, you know, supporting community facilities 619 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,079 all around the country. 620 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,479 And that is a community facility in Australia. 621 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,519 That's consistent with the announcement I made at the time. 622 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,439 The upgrading pools aspect was specifically 623 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,560 for rural and remote areas of Australia. 624 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,119 Er, that's...that was a statement the department said. 625 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,919 I'm going off what I said. 626 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,239 (LAUGHTER) 627 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,599 Yeah, I'm beginning to go off what he said too. 628 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,599 (LAUGHTER) Goodbye. 629 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,919 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 630 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,879 Captions by Red Bee Media 631 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation 49068

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