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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,370 --> 00:00:12,169 it began in healthy-looking pigs months 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,308 perhaps years ago a new corona virus 3 00:00:12,169 --> 00:00:19,519 spread silently within hers gradually 4 00:00:16,309 --> 00:00:21,560 farmers started getting sick infected 5 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:23,570 people got a respiratory illness with 6 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:27,198 symptoms ranging from mild flu-like 7 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:30,969 signs to severe pneumonia the sickest 8 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,469 required intensive care many died at 9 00:00:30,969 --> 00:00:35,600 first this friend was limited to those 10 00:00:33,469 --> 00:00:38,238 with close contacts health care 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,460 personnel co-workers and families but 12 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:44,599 now it's spreading rapidly throughout 13 00:00:40,460 --> 00:00:46,640 local communities international travel 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,670 has turned local epidemics into a 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,340 pandemic spanning the globe just three 16 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:54,620 months ago caps started in South America 17 00:00:52,340 --> 00:00:57,859 but has now reached several countries 18 00:00:54,619 --> 00:01:01,119 with more than 30,000 cases and nearly 19 00:00:57,859 --> 00:01:01,119 2,000 deaths 20 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:05,679 [Music] 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,379 continuing our coverage of the newly 22 00:01:10,189 --> 00:01:15,019 discovered caps disease and the scope of 23 00:01:12,379 --> 00:01:17,299 its deadly outbreaks there are now more 24 00:01:15,019 --> 00:01:19,908 than 30,000 reported cases 25 00:01:17,299 --> 00:01:21,769 experts warn this may be just the 26 00:01:19,909 --> 00:01:24,740 beginning of a global problem 27 00:01:21,769 --> 00:01:27,469 GNN science reporters have produced a 28 00:01:24,739 --> 00:01:31,129 video about what we know so far about 29 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:35,060 caps the virus the outbreak and the 30 00:01:31,129 --> 00:01:37,670 resulting chaos caps is a novel 31 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:39,320 coronavirus related to those viruses 32 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:42,799 that caused the frightening SARS 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:46,069 epidemic in 2003 and the deadly MERS 34 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:48,709 outbreaks in recent years scientists 35 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:51,739 think each infected person in turn 36 00:01:48,709 --> 00:01:53,569 infects on average two more people this 37 00:01:51,739 --> 00:01:56,569 disease is proving more transmissible 38 00:01:53,569 --> 00:01:59,750 than SARS or MERS and about as 39 00:01:56,569 --> 00:02:02,269 contagious as influenza essentially the 40 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:05,179 cumulative number of cases is doubling 41 00:02:02,269 --> 00:02:08,000 every week at this rate we can expect to 42 00:02:05,179 --> 00:02:10,640 see 16 times as many cases in a month 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,610 unless we find a way to interrupt 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,589 transmission the virus appears to be 45 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:18,260 spreading rapidly in densely populated 46 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:20,060 and impoverished neighborhoods in some 47 00:02:18,259 --> 00:02:23,359 mega cities in South America 48 00:02:20,060 --> 00:02:25,789 caps is a serious respiratory disease 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,070 more than half of the recognized cases 50 00:02:25,789 --> 00:02:30,739 have required hospital care creating a 51 00:02:28,069 --> 00:02:33,949 huge strain on health care systems the 52 00:02:30,739 --> 00:02:34,819 fatality rate is about 10% for 53 00:02:33,949 --> 00:02:37,578 comparison 54 00:02:34,819 --> 00:02:40,340 caps is about as lethal as SARS and two 55 00:02:37,579 --> 00:02:43,189 to four times more lethal than the 1918 56 00:02:40,340 --> 00:02:46,729 influenza pandemic the worst pandemic on 57 00:02:43,189 --> 00:02:49,400 record even so some people only exhibit 58 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:52,039 mild flu-like symptoms not requiring 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,900 treatment in a hospital alarmingly those 60 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:56,750 people are able to walk around and 61 00:02:53,900 --> 00:03:00,349 spread the virus not realizing they are 62 00:02:56,750 --> 00:03:01,909 doing so even worse international 63 00:03:00,349 --> 00:03:04,639 travelers have been arriving at their 64 00:03:01,909 --> 00:03:07,699 destination symptom-free but within a 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,589 matter of hours becoming ill travel 66 00:03:07,699 --> 00:03:11,719 related cases have blossomed into 67 00:03:09,590 --> 00:03:14,030 outbreaks in a number of locations and 68 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:16,189 have quickly grown faster than health 69 00:03:14,030 --> 00:03:19,490 authorities could respond and contain 70 00:03:16,189 --> 00:03:21,530 them in other places physicians have put 71 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:23,689 we recognize the symptoms of caps and 72 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:26,090 have been able to isolate infected 73 00:03:23,689 --> 00:03:29,389 individuals and avoid an outbreak for 74 00:03:26,090 --> 00:03:31,460 now global public health experts are 75 00:03:29,389 --> 00:03:34,039 very concerned about this disease 76 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:36,469 because it appears the virus is readily 77 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:39,049 transmitted through the air from person 78 00:03:36,469 --> 00:03:42,259 to person essentially all people are 79 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:44,750 susceptible experts agree unless it is 80 00:03:42,259 --> 00:03:48,049 quickly controlled it could lead to a 81 00:03:44,750 --> 00:03:51,699 severe pandemic an outbreak that circles 82 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:54,170 the globe and affects people everywhere 83 00:03:51,699 --> 00:03:55,699 models developed by leading public 84 00:03:54,169 --> 00:03:58,219 health authorities indicate a caps 85 00:03:55,699 --> 00:04:01,849 pandemic could lead to an outcome worse 86 00:03:58,219 --> 00:04:05,330 than the 1918 influenza which killed 50 87 00:04:01,849 --> 00:04:07,340 to 100 million people worldwide given 88 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:10,730 the global population is four times 89 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:13,009 larger than it was in 1918 if these 90 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:14,959 models proved accurate we could be 91 00:04:13,009 --> 00:04:19,089 looking at hundreds of millions of 92 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,090 deaths over the next year or two 93 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,889 [Music] 94 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:29,990 continuing our caps disease coverage and 95 00:04:27,829 --> 00:04:32,060 possible solutions I'm joined by 96 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:35,420 immunologists dr. u bonnie bellow and 97 00:04:32,060 --> 00:04:38,180 dr. Rhea Blakey and epidemiologists both 98 00:04:35,420 --> 00:04:41,060 highly respected in their fields let's 99 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:43,400 get right to it why are people saying a 100 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:46,160 vaccine for the Cape's virus is not 101 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:49,189 likely in the near term researchers are 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,490 working on a vaccine I don't have viable 103 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:54,560 leads but it's complicated we have known 104 00:04:52,490 --> 00:04:56,600 about caps like viruses in animals and 105 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,339 people for decades but have not been 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,590 successful at developing a licensed 107 00:04:58,339 --> 00:05:02,899 vaccine I'm sure there are new 108 00:05:00,589 --> 00:05:05,359 technologies that may help but it's 109 00:05:02,899 --> 00:05:07,429 going to be difficult I'm not optimistic 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,189 about having a vaccine in time to be 111 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:12,230 relevant during this pandemic even if we 112 00:05:10,189 --> 00:05:14,449 discover a good vaccine candidates we 113 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:16,720 are starting from scratch and it takes 114 00:05:14,449 --> 00:05:20,449 time to test safety and efficacy 115 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:23,210 typically years so even if testing moves 116 00:05:20,449 --> 00:05:25,879 quickly global manufacturing will still 117 00:05:23,209 --> 00:05:29,478 need to be established again multiple 118 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:32,300 hurdles we simply cannot rely on these 119 00:05:29,478 --> 00:05:33,430 old timelines and processes this is a 120 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:35,470 crisis we 121 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:37,930 have to move beyond these issues it may 122 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:40,090 be complicated difficult but if we 123 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:42,819 dedicate all available resources this 124 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:45,099 can happen also keep in mind we need 125 00:05:42,819 --> 00:05:47,920 effective treatments sooner rather than 126 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:49,990 later extraña beer is an antiviral drug 127 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,390 scientists have told me this could be 128 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:55,540 effective we need to start treating 129 00:05:52,389 --> 00:05:58,029 people immediately while I agree extraña 130 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:59,410 ver does the promising it's currently 131 00:05:58,029 --> 00:06:02,199 useful treating HIV 132 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:04,420 however it's not manufactured on the 133 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:07,000 scale neither for treating this many 134 00:06:04,420 --> 00:06:09,550 people and we will just stop using it 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,310 for HIV treatments how will we get this 136 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:15,009 drug in the quantities needed who 137 00:06:12,310 --> 00:06:18,129 decides who has priority for the limited 138 00:06:15,009 --> 00:06:20,490 amounts we do have we both know 139 00:06:18,129 --> 00:06:24,009 countries are hoarding extraña ver 140 00:06:20,490 --> 00:06:26,889 doctor in my opinion you are lost in the 141 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:28,719 details with enough money and political 142 00:06:26,889 --> 00:06:31,629 will anything is possible 143 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,340 let's get going on this now thank you 144 00:06:31,629 --> 00:06:35,889 both for this extremely important 145 00:06:33,339 --> 00:06:37,629 discussion our US affiliate has just 146 00:06:35,889 --> 00:06:40,449 released polling results on public 147 00:06:37,629 --> 00:06:42,250 expectations for a vaccine a majority of 148 00:06:40,449 --> 00:06:45,310 Americans expect a vaccine to be 149 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:47,560 available within 2 months and 65 percent 150 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:49,889 of those polled are eager to take the 151 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,509 vaccine even if it's experimental in 152 00:06:49,889 --> 00:06:55,269 related news a significant demand for 153 00:06:52,509 --> 00:06:58,240 personal protective equipment like n95 154 00:06:55,269 --> 00:06:59,079 masks and gloves are on the rise due to 155 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,629 the pandemic 156 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:04,240 however globally hospitals are running 157 00:07:01,629 --> 00:07:06,610 low additionally other critical medical 158 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,920 supplies such as saline and antibiotics 159 00:07:06,610 --> 00:07:11,580 are dwindling countries and companies 160 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,840 are reportedly stockpiling supplies 161 00:07:11,579 --> 00:07:16,180 disrupting healthcare supply chains 162 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:19,169 causing dangerous shortages in many 163 00:07:16,180 --> 00:07:19,170 parts of the world 164 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:27,670 [Music] 165 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:32,870 in addition to global public health 166 00:07:30,470 --> 00:07:35,569 crisis caps is creating havoc with a 167 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:37,668 trade and travel industries the 168 00:07:35,569 --> 00:07:39,919 frightening Public Health toll of caps 169 00:07:37,668 --> 00:07:41,750 continues to mount patients are 170 00:07:39,918 --> 00:07:44,120 overwhelming health care facilities 171 00:07:41,750 --> 00:07:45,949 around the world including many of the 172 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,439 makeshift triage and temporary care 173 00:07:45,949 --> 00:07:50,930 facilities people are avoiding public 174 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:52,430 spaces out of fear of infection and in 175 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:55,189 compliance with public health 176 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:58,030 recommendations this has had a dramatic 177 00:07:55,189 --> 00:08:00,560 effect under retail and service sectors 178 00:07:58,029 --> 00:08:03,049 businesses of all kinds are struggling 179 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,120 to operate let alone provide basic 180 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:05,538 services as their workers have fallen 181 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,000 sick 182 00:08:05,538 --> 00:08:10,129 or refused to come to work some 183 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,500 companies have allowed telecommuting but 184 00:08:10,129 --> 00:08:15,800 for most businesses and employees this 185 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:18,288 is not an option public health agencies 186 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,090 have issued travel advisories while some 187 00:08:18,288 --> 00:08:23,418 countries have been travel from the 188 00:08:20,089 --> 00:08:25,209 worst affected areas as a result the 189 00:08:23,418 --> 00:08:29,000 travel sector is taking a huge hit 190 00:08:25,209 --> 00:08:30,680 travel bookings are down 45% and many 191 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,809 flights have been cancelled 192 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,209 a ripple effect is racing through the 193 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:37,399 service sector governments that rely on 194 00:08:35,208 --> 00:08:39,078 travel and tourism as a large part of 195 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,750 their economies are being hit 196 00:08:39,078 --> 00:08:44,059 particularly hard consumer confidence 197 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:46,070 has fallen dramatically and people are 198 00:08:44,059 --> 00:08:49,519 delaying or canceling discretionary 199 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:52,070 purchases as a result manufacturers are 200 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:54,379 scaling back production on many goods on 201 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:57,020 the other hand staples like food and 202 00:08:54,379 --> 00:08:59,328 medicine are being hoarded when dated 203 00:08:57,019 --> 00:09:01,578 border closures and trade restrictions 204 00:08:59,328 --> 00:09:04,399 are creating severe localized shortages 205 00:09:01,578 --> 00:09:06,889 the Purchasing Managers Index suffered 206 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:09,110 its sharpest decline in 50 years a 207 00:09:06,889 --> 00:09:11,028 leading indicator that markets are 208 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:13,909 preparing for a prolonged period of 209 00:09:11,028 --> 00:09:16,070 economic disruption in some regions 210 00:09:13,909 --> 00:09:18,769 politicians are adding to the noise and 211 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:20,629 confusion through social media ban all 212 00:09:18,769 --> 00:09:22,759 goods and travel from infected countries 213 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:24,950 and boycott companies that spread 214 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:28,189 disease are common Twitter refrains 215 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:31,160 often led by public figures it's safe to 216 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:33,110 say we face a tough dilemma the movement 217 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:35,659 of people may facilitate the spread of 218 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:36,470 gaps but interruptions to travel and 219 00:09:35,659 --> 00:09:38,959 trade 220 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:41,500 have economic consequences that are just 221 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,500 as bad 222 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:56,990 the response to the Cape's pandemic is 223 00:09:54,799 --> 00:10:00,229 now the most expensive international 224 00:09:56,990 --> 00:10:02,659 emergency ever political leaders around 225 00:10:00,230 --> 00:10:05,420 globe are faced with many impossible 226 00:10:02,659 --> 00:10:07,338 dilemmas including financial we have two 227 00:10:05,419 --> 00:10:10,250 guests today to discuss the bottom line 228 00:10:07,339 --> 00:10:12,290 of catastrophic response first up is 229 00:10:10,250 --> 00:10:15,019 economist Dave gamble are we out of 230 00:10:12,289 --> 00:10:17,899 money the best way to answer that is no 231 00:10:15,019 --> 00:10:19,519 we are not out of money yet 232 00:10:17,899 --> 00:10:21,379 but the fact is we are trending in a 233 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:23,328 dangerous direction and something needs 234 00:10:21,379 --> 00:10:25,278 to change you have been quite vocal 235 00:10:23,328 --> 00:10:28,008 about that and generated some 236 00:10:25,278 --> 00:10:31,129 controversy along the way well look you 237 00:10:28,009 --> 00:10:33,199 know me I try to avoid controversy but 238 00:10:31,129 --> 00:10:34,100 come on common sense says it shouldn't 239 00:10:33,198 --> 00:10:35,929 be controversial 240 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:39,159 to suggest our response should 241 00:10:35,929 --> 00:10:41,899 prioritize both lives and livelihoods 242 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,578 absolutely we need to save lives we all 243 00:10:41,899 --> 00:10:45,980 know someone who's been affected by caps 244 00:10:43,578 --> 00:10:48,500 but we literally cannot afford a 245 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:51,199 heavy-handed response that suffocates 246 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:54,649 our economy pragmatism is a wise choice 247 00:10:51,198 --> 00:10:57,078 I mean what exactly are the risks and 248 00:10:54,649 --> 00:11:00,220 benefits of slowing air travel of 249 00:10:57,078 --> 00:11:03,318 staying home from work closing schools 250 00:11:00,220 --> 00:11:04,579 disrupting supply chains interfering 251 00:11:03,318 --> 00:11:07,250 with our reliable channels of 252 00:11:04,578 --> 00:11:09,739 communication and news sure some of 253 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:12,860 these steps can help slow caps but often 254 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:16,669 only marginally and with serious costs 255 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:18,889 when this is all over some families some 256 00:11:16,669 --> 00:11:21,620 cities will have suffered more from our 257 00:11:18,889 --> 00:11:23,509 interventions than from caps no 258 00:11:21,620 --> 00:11:26,419 questions there is a lot of suffering 259 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:28,610 let me welcome dr. who Juan Perez 260 00:11:26,419 --> 00:11:32,259 through this discussion is dr. gamble 261 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:34,250 wrong actually in a way we agree 262 00:11:32,259 --> 00:11:36,558 responders whether international 263 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:39,078 organizations governments or even 264 00:11:36,558 --> 00:11:41,149 employers and Families each are weighing 265 00:11:39,078 --> 00:11:43,068 risks and benefits and there is not a 266 00:11:41,149 --> 00:11:45,318 one-size-fits-all approach as there are 267 00:11:43,068 --> 00:11:48,229 different appetite for risk what I will 268 00:11:45,318 --> 00:11:51,860 say in my mind our response should aim 269 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:53,959 to protect every life we can of course 270 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:55,938 it should be but let's be frank 271 00:11:53,958 --> 00:11:58,619 letting the global economy slow to a 272 00:11:55,938 --> 00:12:01,669 halt puts lives at risk yeah 273 00:11:58,620 --> 00:12:04,700 yes but there does need to be a balance 274 00:12:01,669 --> 00:12:07,528 okay you both agree balance is paramount 275 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:09,540 theoretically that's an easy choice but 276 00:12:07,528 --> 00:12:11,909 leaders are now faced with very real and 277 00:12:09,539 --> 00:12:14,009 very tough decisions just last week 278 00:12:11,909 --> 00:12:16,409 traditional sources for emergency 279 00:12:14,009 --> 00:12:18,600 funding had exceeded their limits as new 280 00:12:16,409 --> 00:12:20,459 mechanisms are being discussed various 281 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,259 consideration is whether funds should 282 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:25,589 primarily support health emergency 283 00:12:22,259 --> 00:12:28,110 response or prop up economies precisely 284 00:12:25,589 --> 00:12:30,180 and we do need these funds sooner rather 285 00:12:28,110 --> 00:12:32,700 than later funding shortfalls are 286 00:12:30,179 --> 00:12:35,939 putting lives at risk and extending this 287 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:38,610 devastating crisis again we seem to 288 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:41,700 agree we cannot shortchange the health 289 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:43,440 response but I suspect we disagree when 290 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:45,778 I suggest that some of these funds are 291 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,970 best used to save jobs and critical 292 00:12:45,778 --> 00:12:49,919 industries national leaders certainly 293 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:51,050 have this on top of their minds during 294 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:54,449 the ongoing debates 295 00:12:51,049 --> 00:12:56,819 look I am NOT an economist or a 296 00:12:54,450 --> 00:12:59,070 politician for that matter but as a 297 00:12:56,820 --> 00:13:01,020 physician I am comfortable saying that 298 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:03,450 our health responds to caps cannot 299 00:13:01,019 --> 00:13:04,980 afford to wait for an incredibly complex 300 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:07,350 debate about what sounds to me like 301 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:09,990 history's most expensive economic 302 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:11,639 bailout thank you both and we will be 303 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:13,139 watching and listening for the outcome 304 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:15,720 of this fight all discussions and 305 00:13:13,139 --> 00:13:19,100 certainly the market is eagerly watching 306 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,100 for any signs of hope 307 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:32,309 alarming news emerging from social media 308 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,379 companies today about the Cape's 309 00:13:32,309 --> 00:13:36,539 pandemic Twitter and Facebook are 310 00:13:34,379 --> 00:13:38,009 reporting they've identified and deleted 311 00:13:36,539 --> 00:13:39,829 a disturbing number of accounts 312 00:13:38,009 --> 00:13:42,899 dedicated to spreading disinformation 313 00:13:39,830 --> 00:13:45,360 about the outbreak for more on this we 314 00:13:42,899 --> 00:13:47,879 go to our correspondent Catalina parks 315 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,220 Chen these accounts were created by 316 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:52,350 several state-sponsored groups intending 317 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:54,300 to sow political discord and some 318 00:13:52,350 --> 00:13:57,149 individuals are seemingly seeking to 319 00:13:54,299 --> 00:13:58,979 gain financial advantages violence 320 00:13:57,149 --> 00:14:01,590 against health care workers and minority 321 00:13:58,980 --> 00:14:03,690 populations has been increasing a recent 322 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:06,149 riot highlights the real danger in these 323 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:08,520 posts countries are reacting in 324 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:10,620 different ways as to how best to manage 325 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:12,659 the overwhelming amounts of dis and 326 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:15,990 misinformation circulating over the 327 00:14:12,659 --> 00:14:18,209 Internet in some cases limited internet 328 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:21,149 shutdowns are being implemented to quell 329 00:14:18,210 --> 00:14:23,430 panic Thank You Catalina for more of 330 00:14:21,149 --> 00:14:26,309 this we are joined by experts on crisis 331 00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:29,669 communications and social media Kevin 332 00:14:26,309 --> 00:14:31,769 Mack Elise and Sarah Lee to me it is 333 00:14:29,669 --> 00:14:33,779 clear countries need to make strong 334 00:14:31,769 --> 00:14:37,019 efforts to manage both myths and 335 00:14:33,779 --> 00:14:38,459 disinformation we know social media 336 00:14:37,019 --> 00:14:41,279 companies are working around the clock 337 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:44,879 to combat these disinformation campaigns 338 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:47,669 the task of identifying every bad actor 339 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:49,500 is immense and experts agree that new 340 00:14:47,669 --> 00:14:52,469 disinformation campaigns are being 341 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:53,879 generated every day this is a huge 342 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:56,220 problem that's going to keep us from 343 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:58,769 ending the pandemic and might even lead 344 00:14:56,220 --> 00:15:01,500 to the fall of governments as we saw in 345 00:14:58,769 --> 00:15:03,449 the Arab Spring if the solution means 346 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:05,220 controlling and reducing access to 347 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:08,129 information I think it's the right 348 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:09,960 choice I agree with Kevin this is a big 349 00:15:08,129 --> 00:15:11,850 problem and doesn't even account for the 350 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,040 massive amounts of misinformation being 351 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:16,350 generated by legitimate users about the 352 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:18,089 pandemic but it's not just trolls who 353 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:20,970 are spreading the fake news it's often 354 00:15:18,090 --> 00:15:23,070 political leaders themselves who's to 355 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:24,990 judge what's real or not would we trust 356 00:15:23,070 --> 00:15:27,270 every government to separate truth from 357 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:30,210 lies I think this is more than just 358 00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:32,399 keeping the bad information out it's 359 00:15:30,210 --> 00:15:35,259 also about making sure real public 360 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:37,240 health information reaches the public 361 00:15:35,259 --> 00:15:40,149 News is found from outlets other than 362 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,549 social media news organizations public 363 00:15:40,149 --> 00:15:45,100 health groups and companies need to help 364 00:15:42,549 --> 00:15:48,189 people take the right actions to protect 365 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:51,990 themselves by promoting accurate real 366 00:15:48,190 --> 00:15:51,990 information about the outbreak 367 00:15:53,690 --> 00:16:00,530 the outcome of the Cape's pandemic an 368 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:03,680 event 201 was catastrophic 65 million 369 00:16:00,529 --> 00:16:05,419 people died in the first 18 months the 370 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,969 outbreak was small at first and 371 00:16:05,419 --> 00:16:10,219 initially seemed controllable but then 372 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:12,170 it started spreading in densely crowded 373 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:14,480 and impoverished neighborhoods of mega 374 00:16:12,169 --> 00:16:16,159 cities from that point on the spread of 375 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,409 the disease was explosive 376 00:16:16,159 --> 00:16:22,429 within six months cases were occurring 377 00:16:18,409 --> 00:16:24,169 in nearly every country at first wealthy 378 00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:26,149 countries with advanced healthcare and 379 00:16:24,169 --> 00:16:27,889 public health systems were primarily 380 00:16:26,149 --> 00:16:30,500 able to limit the spread of the disease 381 00:16:27,889 --> 00:16:33,199 within their borders as systems became 382 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:35,629 overwhelmed however no countries were 383 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,460 able to control its spread and the 384 00:16:35,629 --> 00:16:40,250 disease affected people of all 385 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:42,830 socioeconomic status from the very poor 386 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:46,580 to the extremely rich from sanitation 387 00:16:42,830 --> 00:16:49,460 workers to CEOs and national leaders the 388 00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:51,470 economic consequences were dramatic the 389 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:53,750 high death toll and even greater numbers 390 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:56,210 of sick her productivity in many 391 00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:58,159 industries manufacturers were having 392 00:16:56,210 --> 00:17:00,170 trouble filling orders and countless 393 00:16:58,159 --> 00:17:03,230 companies in the service sector simply 394 00:17:00,169 --> 00:17:07,730 shut down the global economy was in a 395 00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:09,920 freefall the GDP down 11% stock markets 396 00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:12,170 around the world plummeted between 20 397 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,480 and 40 percent and headed into a 398 00:17:12,170 --> 00:17:16,610 downward cycle of fear and low 399 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,579 expectation businesses were not 400 00:17:16,609 --> 00:17:20,809 borrowing banks were not lending 401 00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:23,960 everyone was just hoping to hunker down 402 00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:26,720 and weather the storm while nearly all 403 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:29,750 businesses were affected certain sectors 404 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,180 were especially hard-hit travel finance 405 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:34,700 service manufacturing health care and 406 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:37,220 insurance among them with some major 407 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:40,009 companies going bankrupt and there were 408 00:17:37,220 --> 00:17:42,589 seismic societal consequences as well 409 00:17:40,009 --> 00:17:45,470 the world saw large-scale protests and 410 00:17:42,589 --> 00:17:47,449 in some places riots people were angry 411 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:49,579 about the lack of access to health care 412 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:51,559 and medicine as well as government's 413 00:17:49,579 --> 00:17:54,259 inability to protect them from the 414 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:57,549 disease this led to violent crackdowns 415 00:17:54,259 --> 00:17:59,809 in some countries and even martial law 416 00:17:57,549 --> 00:18:02,029 political upheaval became the rule 417 00:17:59,809 --> 00:18:04,129 across the globe the public lost trust 418 00:18:02,029 --> 00:18:06,740 in their respective administration's 419 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:07,520 several governments fell while others 420 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:09,980 were desperate 421 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:12,710 striving to hold on to power this 422 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:14,960 spurred further crackdowns attempt to 423 00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:16,990 control media messaging originally aimed 424 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,319 only at health-related misinformation 425 00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:23,720 became used increasingly to quash 426 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:25,730 political dissent economists say the 427 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,339 economic turmoil caused by such a 428 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:31,759 pandemic will last for years perhaps a 429 00:18:28,339 --> 00:18:33,829 decade the societal impacts the loss of 430 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:36,019 faith in government the distrust of news 431 00:18:33,829 --> 00:18:39,470 and the breakdown of social cohesion 432 00:18:36,019 --> 00:18:43,490 could last even longer we have to ask 433 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:45,589 did this need to be so bad are there 434 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:47,900 things we could have done in the five to 435 00:18:45,589 --> 00:18:49,549 ten years leading up to the pandemic 436 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:52,790 that would have lessened the 437 00:18:49,549 --> 00:18:56,480 catastrophic consequences we believe the 438 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:57,559 answer is yes so are we as a global 439 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,839 community 440 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:05,919 now finally ready to do the hard work 441 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:05,919 needed to prepare for the next pandemic 33200

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