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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,075 --> 00:00:44,316 Dark Side of the Moon was an expression 2 00:00:44,444 --> 00:00:46,446 of political, philosophical, 3 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,653 humanitarian empathy that was desperate to get out. 4 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:13,675 Dark Side, I think, felt like 5 00:01:13,774 --> 00:01:15,515 the whole band were working together. 6 00:01:15,609 --> 00:01:19,147 It was a very creative time. We were all very open, as well. 7 00:01:19,279 --> 00:01:23,022 I think because we still had a common goal, 8 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:25,357 which was to become rich and famous. 9 00:01:38,065 --> 00:01:41,171 The ideas that Roger was exploring 10 00:01:41,268 --> 00:01:45,182 apply to every new generation. 11 00:01:45,272 --> 00:01:49,186 They still have very much the same relevance as they had. 12 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,261 Can we run back and drop it a bit? 13 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:04,097 Yeah, you can if you like. Just turn it down a bit. 14 00:02:04,191 --> 00:02:06,694 I think one of the successes of Dark Side 15 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:09,000 is the fact that, actually, it's very rich. 16 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:11,975 There's a lot of songs, a lot of ideas, 17 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:14,739 all compressed onto the one record. 18 00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:17,315 I can clearly remember 19 00:02:17,404 --> 00:02:19,213 that moment of sitting and listening 20 00:02:19,306 --> 00:02:21,513 to the whole mix, all the way through, 21 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:23,121 and thinking "My God. 22 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:26,680 "We've really done something fantastic here." 23 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:48,847 I think it has the all-time record. 24 00:02:48,969 --> 00:02:52,678 Constantly on the charts for nearly 750 weeks. 25 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:54,411 About 14 years. 26 00:02:54,508 --> 00:02:56,613 It was a huge album. 27 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:58,917 Huge not just in terms of its sales, 28 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:01,014 but in terms of its influence. 29 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:04,186 This was where underground music, 30 00:03:04,284 --> 00:03:07,891 progressive rock, whatever, really went mainstream. 31 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:10,525 It was a record that had lots of traditional pop values. 32 00:03:10,624 --> 00:03:12,228 You could sing along to these songs. But... 33 00:03:12,325 --> 00:03:14,862 it also was the kind of thing that took you places, 34 00:03:14,961 --> 00:03:16,963 if you wanted to listen to it in a darkened room. 35 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:19,271 It may very well be the ultimate concept record, 36 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:22,347 because the concept is there, the songs are there, 37 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:24,438 the spaces and the music are there, 38 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:26,882 but it doesn't take away any of the imagination. 39 00:03:34,081 --> 00:03:38,757 After Syd went crazy in '68 and Dave joined, 40 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:41,991 we were all of us searching. 41 00:03:42,122 --> 00:03:45,729 Fumbling around, looking for "well, where do we go now?" 42 00:03:45,826 --> 00:03:48,329 Because here was the guy who starts producing 43 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:50,635 all these songs, 44 00:03:50,764 --> 00:03:54,439 and was the sort of heartbeat of the band. 45 00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:57,048 Syd casts a long and large shadow over events. 46 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:59,980 I think that the band were very impressive to keep going, 47 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:02,917 actually, after the loss of their main creative drive. 48 00:04:03,009 --> 00:04:05,250 I mean, it's not something you'd choose, is it? 49 00:04:05,345 --> 00:04:08,155 You wouldn't say "Okay, let's get rid of our songwriter". 50 00:04:08,281 --> 00:04:11,387 After Syd had gone, the music became more 51 00:04:11,485 --> 00:04:13,965 kind of soundscapes than songs. 52 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:17,330 You have to work to your strengths. 53 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:20,928 And it's a very good thing that we couldn't write singles. 54 00:04:21,027 --> 00:04:23,974 We might not have done some of the interesting work we did. 55 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:29,776 Once Syd was out of the picture, The Floyd just went glacial. 56 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:32,373 They just let it all spread out. 57 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,291 When I saw The Floyd for the first time, 58 00:04:45,385 --> 00:04:47,126 it was the summer of '68. 59 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:49,393 It was the first American tour with David Gilmour. 60 00:04:49,489 --> 00:04:52,629 And they were just extraordinary. 61 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:55,468 You know, it was Let There Be More Light, 62 00:04:55,562 --> 00:04:57,906 Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun, 63 00:04:58,031 --> 00:05:00,307 it was total space rock. 64 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:13,324 I started falling out of love with that, 65 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:16,792 with some of that psychedelic noodling stuff. 66 00:05:16,883 --> 00:05:18,988 We were still, then, playing 67 00:05:19,085 --> 00:05:21,326 a lot of instrumental work, if you like, 68 00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:23,127 and that would be half the album. 69 00:05:23,256 --> 00:05:25,793 But we were always searching for a direction. 70 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:28,668 You're fighting, a little bit, between... 71 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:32,835 Wanting to push boundaries back a little bit 72 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:36,972 and move forward in an experimental way, 73 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,846 but also to retain melody. 74 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:43,944 When you get to Meddle, quite clearly, 75 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:50,859 Echoes shows the direction that we're moving in. 76 00:05:50,951 --> 00:05:54,797 The rest of Meddle, as I recall, was songs. 77 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:59,836 And so, you know, the flipside was a 20-minute piece. 78 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,838 A, and so it was a construct, 79 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:08,435 And B, it was the beginning 80 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:12,449 of all the writing about other people. 81 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:30,799 It was the beginning of empathy, if you like. 82 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:32,926 You know, "Two strangers passing in the street, 83 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:34,767 "By chance two passing glances meet, 84 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,966 "And I am you and what I see is me." 85 00:06:37,097 --> 00:06:39,304 It's a sort of thread that's gone through everything, 86 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,970 for me, ever since then, 87 00:06:42,068 --> 00:06:48,383 and had a big irruption in Dark Side. 88 00:06:48,475 --> 00:06:51,115 You have to remember the context of the time. 89 00:06:51,211 --> 00:06:53,748 This was the height of glam rock. 90 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,418 There was, you know, Marc Bolan in T-Rex, 91 00:06:57,517 --> 00:06:59,827 and David Bowie with Ziggy Stardust, 92 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,696 peddling their sort of pop fantasies. 93 00:07:02,789 --> 00:07:04,700 And The Floyd came along with an album 94 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:06,429 that was about these weighty themes. 95 00:07:06,526 --> 00:07:08,733 He created a story. He created... 96 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,001 Basically, a theatre piece 97 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,475 about what it was like to live in the modern world. 98 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,274 All four of us were there, and there was a discussion 99 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:18,371 about putting the album together 100 00:07:18,471 --> 00:07:21,611 and making it into this themed... 101 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:24,484 I mean, what is now called a "concept album". 102 00:07:24,611 --> 00:07:28,457 There are a number of things that impinge upon an individual, 103 00:07:28,548 --> 00:07:32,587 that colour his view of existence. 104 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:34,699 There are pressures that are capable of pushing you 105 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:37,428 in one direction or another. 106 00:07:37,524 --> 00:07:41,199 And these are some of them, 107 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:46,607 and whether they push you toward insanity, death, empathy, 108 00:07:46,733 --> 00:07:48,974 greed, whatever... 109 00:07:50,236 --> 00:07:52,910 There's something about 110 00:07:53,006 --> 00:07:57,682 the Newtonian view of that physics 111 00:07:57,811 --> 00:08:01,054 that might be interesting, and maybe that could be 112 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:03,855 what this record is about. 113 00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:06,089 It was one of those really good moments 114 00:08:06,186 --> 00:08:07,824 that most bands do experience, 115 00:08:07,921 --> 00:08:10,993 where everyone is onside and everyone likes the idea 116 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:12,967 and there's some sort of agreement 117 00:08:13,059 --> 00:08:15,335 as to more or less who's going to do what. 118 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,874 Dark Side of the Moon started in a rehearsal room 119 00:08:17,964 --> 00:08:20,001 in Bermondsey, I think, that belonged... 120 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:22,341 A warehouse, belonged to the Rolling Stones, 121 00:08:22,435 --> 00:08:26,383 where we did some sort of jamming, 122 00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:28,453 writing, whatever you want to call it. 123 00:08:29,242 --> 00:08:32,621 I'm not sure how much writing happened there. 124 00:08:32,712 --> 00:08:35,886 You know. "Let's play E minor and A for an hour or two. 125 00:08:35,982 --> 00:08:38,394 "That sounds all right. That'll take up five minutes." 126 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:01,780 A lot of the musical ideas just came up 127 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:05,448 just sort of jamming away in these rehearsal rooms. 128 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:07,320 Obviously, the lyrics Roger brought in. 129 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:09,620 Because he had things to say. 130 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:12,663 And it's the first time that he wrote all the lyrics. 131 00:09:12,752 --> 00:09:15,699 Roger was our sort of pushing, driving force. 132 00:09:15,789 --> 00:09:19,327 The way Dark Side of the Moon articulates some sense 133 00:09:19,426 --> 00:09:22,930 of early adult disenchantment is absolutely timeless. 134 00:09:23,029 --> 00:09:28,536 I listened to it again recently, and it always amazes me 135 00:09:28,635 --> 00:09:34,278 that I got away with it, really, 'cause it's so lower sixth. 136 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:35,818 You know, 137 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:40,724 "Breathe, breathe in the air, don't be afraid to care..." 138 00:09:40,847 --> 00:09:43,293 In fact, I think, within the context of the music 139 00:09:43,383 --> 00:09:45,727 and within the context of the piece as a whole, 140 00:09:45,852 --> 00:09:50,892 people are prepared to accept that simple exultation. 141 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:53,800 To be prepared to stand your ground 142 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:57,397 and attempt to live your life in an authentic way. 143 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:24,194 I came from jazz, basically. 144 00:10:24,324 --> 00:10:28,568 I love... That's my favourite... That's my inspiration. 145 00:10:28,695 --> 00:10:30,606 And the interesting thing about this song, 146 00:10:30,697 --> 00:10:35,407 talking about jazz, there's a certain chord... 147 00:10:39,906 --> 00:10:42,819 That is totally down to a chord 148 00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:45,719 I had heard on, actually, Miles Davis' album 149 00:10:45,845 --> 00:10:48,155 Kind of Blue, which is... 150 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:52,997 That chord. That chord, I just love. 151 00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:57,795 And when we were doing Breathe, we got to G, I got to G, 152 00:10:57,924 --> 00:11:00,734 and how do you get to E again? 153 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:03,706 Well, again, normally, you'd go... 154 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,339 But I remembered this chord, 155 00:11:09,435 --> 00:11:12,006 and I remembered working it out at home, 156 00:11:12,105 --> 00:11:14,278 listening to the record. And I just thought... 157 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:33,994 Dave was brilliant at double-tracking vocals. 158 00:11:34,127 --> 00:11:37,973 You could do it with machines, but there's a difference. 159 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:49,585 There's also a harmony part. 160 00:11:51,077 --> 00:11:53,353 That's it on its own. 161 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:04,197 And back to the band. 162 00:12:05,491 --> 00:12:08,165 There's two organ parts which come in now. 163 00:12:15,602 --> 00:12:18,139 They had been performing this work known as Eclipse 164 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:20,775 for a few months, I think, 165 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:23,818 before actually even coming in to Abbey Road 166 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:26,049 to start the first recordings. 167 00:12:26,145 --> 00:12:30,719 Which meant the performances were pretty tight, 168 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:32,693 and not so hard to get. 169 00:12:32,785 --> 00:12:35,356 When you're working in a band and you're performing something 170 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:39,801 willy-nilly, it develops and changes. 171 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:06,293 In pre-bootlegging days, this, of course, 172 00:13:06,386 --> 00:13:09,026 was a far more effective and better way of doing things. 173 00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,830 You went into the studio rehearsed up. 174 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:26,182 We'd been playing it live that way for quite some time, 175 00:13:26,272 --> 00:13:28,912 as a sort of guitar jam piece. 176 00:13:29,042 --> 00:13:31,113 I think we were none of us that happy with it 177 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:35,818 as a piece, and when we also had this synthesiser. 178 00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:39,021 The Synth EA, which had a little built-in keyboard, 179 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:41,758 and it had... it was the first sequencer, I think. 180 00:13:41,854 --> 00:13:43,458 I just plugged this up 181 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:46,002 and started playing one sequence on it. 182 00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:49,595 Roger immediately pricked up his ears. "That sounded good." 183 00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:53,006 And he came out and we started mucking with it together. 184 00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:56,807 And then he put in a new sequence of notes, 185 00:13:56,936 --> 00:13:59,314 and it all developed out of that. 186 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,386 A series of notes, played in slowly... 187 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:07,423 ...triggering a noise generator and oscillators, 188 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:09,891 and then just speed it up, you know. 189 00:14:16,122 --> 00:14:18,329 Now you've got it, basically. 190 00:14:23,329 --> 00:14:26,105 And that, of course, immediately sounded much more exciting 191 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:28,645 and newer than what we were currently doing. 192 00:14:28,735 --> 00:14:31,511 They were the first band to really go out 193 00:14:31,637 --> 00:14:34,015 and try to, sort of, make music of the future. 194 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:36,053 We were doing a lot of things with tape loops 195 00:14:36,142 --> 00:14:37,917 and curious sounds and sound effects. 196 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:41,116 There wasn't sampling in 1972, when they put this together, 197 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:43,785 but that's basically what they were doing. In a sense, 198 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:47,763 they were giving you a preview of sound-pictures of the future. 199 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:52,769 There are some very, very clever and highly listenable 200 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:56,033 pieces of sonic experimentation. 201 00:14:56,162 --> 00:14:57,835 This is the main synthesiser. 202 00:14:57,930 --> 00:15:00,570 It has the hi-hat element built in. 203 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:03,909 Then we treat it with filters and with other oscillators 204 00:15:04,003 --> 00:15:06,210 to give it that sort of vibrato noise. 205 00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:08,342 And we bring in this guitar, 206 00:15:08,441 --> 00:15:11,012 which is a backwards guitar with echo stuff on it, 207 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:12,987 and it's being played with a mic-stand leg, 208 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,025 just sliding up it... 209 00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:18,391 And that whizzes left and right across the stereo. 210 00:15:18,518 --> 00:15:22,796 Then there's these synthesisers, morph synthies, 211 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:26,369 which are creating sort of futuristic vehicle noises, 212 00:15:26,492 --> 00:15:28,665 which you take the pitch down 213 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:30,502 a little bit, and pan it at the same time, 214 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:33,008 and that creates an artificial Doppler sound 215 00:15:33,132 --> 00:15:36,011 like ambulances whizzing past you. 216 00:15:36,135 --> 00:15:40,584 Bring in some footsteps and some heartbeats 217 00:15:40,673 --> 00:15:41,913 for extra tension. 218 00:15:42,008 --> 00:15:44,545 As you see, there's an awful lot going on in this track. 219 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:59,866 This section in particular, the travel section, 220 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,200 the On the Run section, 221 00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:04,638 I think, was pretty complicated. 222 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:07,074 A lot of hands on deck. 223 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,111 You'd always want to put more things on 224 00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:11,011 than you had tracks for. 225 00:16:11,103 --> 00:16:13,083 So tracks would, very suddenly, 226 00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:14,708 change from one thing to a different thing. 227 00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:18,482 All of us are on the desk with our fingers on the faders. 228 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:20,648 But that was the way it was, because 229 00:16:20,746 --> 00:16:22,225 we didn't have automation in those days. 230 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,955 A mix, in those days, was a performance, 231 00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:27,531 every bit as much as doing a gig. 232 00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:29,633 It's one thing, actually, that we've kind of lost 233 00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:31,133 in the modern age. 234 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:48,781 It was very, very well-engineered. 235 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:51,651 It was also very, very carefully constructed. 236 00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:55,419 So there was no sort of... Everything was well-recorded. 237 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,519 Dark Side was really the first proper engineering job 238 00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:00,996 I'd been given with The Floyd. 239 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,191 So I was pretty much in at the deep end. 240 00:17:03,322 --> 00:17:05,097 He was very good musically, as well. 241 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:09,003 He also came up with a couple of good ideas. 242 00:17:09,128 --> 00:17:11,665 I was commissioned to record 243 00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:14,643 some clocks for a sound effects record, 244 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:17,611 for the very early days of quadraphonic. 245 00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:20,411 And when we were doing Time, 246 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:23,544 he suggested we might like to add these clocks. 247 00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:25,919 My memory of it is just this room 248 00:17:26,012 --> 00:17:30,483 full of tapes rolling round, because it was... 249 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:33,029 Without any sort of computer help, 250 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,599 everything had to be done manually. 251 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,998 Getting all the clocks to chime at the right time, 252 00:17:39,091 --> 00:17:41,128 that was a process of... 253 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,730 Just finding a particular moment 254 00:17:43,829 --> 00:17:46,332 on the multi-track tape where the chiming would happen, 255 00:17:46,432 --> 00:17:49,777 and then back-timing all the quarter-inch originals 256 00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:52,179 which contained each of the clocks. 257 00:17:52,271 --> 00:17:54,148 And then, the very critical thing 258 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,413 of the tapes starting at a specific moment, 259 00:17:56,509 --> 00:18:00,389 which is all done with hand-signs and stopwatches. 260 00:18:30,242 --> 00:18:34,554 We've got the girls making their first appearance here. 261 00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:39,394 That's unprocessed. 262 00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:49,036 And we put this effect called a frequency translator on them, 263 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:51,805 which made them sound like this. 264 00:18:59,605 --> 00:19:01,243 Here's the solo. 265 00:19:30,636 --> 00:19:33,014 This one had probably taken some shape live 266 00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:34,846 before we ever got to do it. 267 00:19:34,974 --> 00:19:37,921 But usually, in the studio, on this sort of thing, 268 00:19:39,278 --> 00:19:42,157 you just go out and have a play and see what comes, 269 00:19:42,248 --> 00:19:45,889 and it's usually mostly the first take that's the best, 270 00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:48,488 and you'll find yourself repeating yourself thereafter. 271 00:20:04,136 --> 00:20:07,674 The 1970s was the era of the guitar. 272 00:20:07,807 --> 00:20:13,223 And he had that sort of very blues-y sound. 273 00:20:13,312 --> 00:20:15,622 But then, also, he had that other sound, 274 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:20,391 that spacy, very crystalline, almost ethereal quality. 275 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,194 I suddenly realised then, that year, 276 00:20:57,289 --> 00:21:00,168 that life was already happening. 277 00:21:00,292 --> 00:21:03,603 I think it's because my mother was so obsessed with education 278 00:21:03,729 --> 00:21:09,008 and the idea that childhood and adolescence and everything 279 00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:13,174 was about preparing for a life that was going to start later. 280 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:18,655 And I suddenly realised that life wasn't gonna start later, 281 00:21:18,744 --> 00:21:21,850 that it, you know... It starts at "dot". 282 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:24,791 And it happens all the time. 283 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:27,488 At any point, you can grasp the reins 284 00:21:27,586 --> 00:21:30,590 and start guiding your own destiny. 285 00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:32,828 And that was a big revelation to me. 286 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:34,996 I mean, it came as quite a shock. 287 00:21:57,249 --> 00:21:58,956 One of the greatest lines, I think, 288 00:21:59,051 --> 00:22:00,997 on Dark Side of the Moon is Roger's line about 289 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,533 "Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way". 290 00:22:04,623 --> 00:22:07,570 Which is the sort of line you could imagine, I don't know, 291 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:09,970 Evelyn Waugh, or Somerset Maugham or someone, 292 00:22:10,095 --> 00:22:13,474 writing as an observation on the English character. 293 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:17,877 And I think that character does permeate the whole record, 294 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,882 and indeed the whole of Pink Floyd's career. 295 00:23:15,995 --> 00:23:20,466 It expresses my feelings about things very simply, 296 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:22,203 and I think that... 297 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:30,316 Musically... I think that the music is to some extent 298 00:23:30,442 --> 00:23:35,323 driven by that emotional commitment. 299 00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:38,291 The band basically wanted 300 00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:40,990 another four or five minutes of music, 301 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,327 and we thought it could be an instrumental. 302 00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:45,696 I think I just, as I always have done, 303 00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:47,793 I sat at the piano and I... 304 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:50,564 And those first two chords came. 305 00:23:50,696 --> 00:23:53,233 Us and Them and The Great Gig in the Sky, 306 00:23:53,332 --> 00:23:55,869 you know, are fabulous chord sequences, 307 00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:58,481 and really, truly wonderful pieces of music. 308 00:25:45,744 --> 00:25:49,487 No idea whose idea it was to get a female singer in. 309 00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:52,926 Alan Parsons knew Clare Torry and had been working with her, 310 00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:54,554 and said "Why don't you try her?" 311 00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:56,929 She just went in there and improvised over it. 312 00:25:57,022 --> 00:25:58,933 Yeah, that was amazing, that was fantastic. 313 00:25:59,024 --> 00:26:00,628 That was done while we were mixing. 314 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:02,466 We knew what we wanted. 315 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,007 Not exactly musically, but we knew 316 00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:09,738 that we wanted someone to just improvise over this piece. 317 00:26:09,835 --> 00:26:12,338 So we directed her. We said, "Well, think about death. 318 00:26:12,438 --> 00:26:14,440 "Think about horror. Think whatever, 319 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,315 "and just go and sing." 320 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,582 And my memory is that she went out 321 00:26:19,678 --> 00:26:22,352 in the studio and did it very, very quickly. 322 00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:26,019 And then came back in and said "I'm really sorry", in fact, 323 00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:27,995 "about this." Very embarrassed. 324 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,964 And we were in the studio saying "This is wonderful." 325 00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:34,402 And of course, it's absolutely brilliant. 326 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:37,906 Both Rick's piano and organ work 327 00:26:37,996 --> 00:26:43,378 and Clare's singing is just incredibly moving. 328 00:26:54,713 --> 00:26:56,784 At the end, at the very end of this 329 00:26:56,882 --> 00:27:00,694 I'm going to increase the echo slowly. 330 00:27:38,423 --> 00:27:40,801 We always wanted to, kind of, 331 00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:44,306 not be on our covers ourselves, not have pictures. 332 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:47,809 It's probably the most recognisable cover of all time. 333 00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:50,174 It's something that you can sit and look at for a long time 334 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:52,249 without getting fed up with it. 335 00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:56,376 The prism is the logo that absolutely defines the record. 336 00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:58,751 Dark Side of the Moon prism design 337 00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,915 comes from three basic ingredients, 338 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,186 one of which is the light show 339 00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,990 that the band put on. I was trying to represent that. 340 00:28:06,084 --> 00:28:08,894 Also one of the themes of the lyrics, which was, 341 00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:11,593 I think, about ambition and greed. 342 00:28:11,723 --> 00:28:14,135 And thirdly it was an answer to Rick Wright, 343 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,762 who said that he wanted something... 344 00:28:15,894 --> 00:28:18,773 Simple and bold. And dramatic. 345 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:23,142 The presentation, as we call it, of the design to the band 346 00:28:23,235 --> 00:28:25,442 was a fairly brief affair. 347 00:28:25,571 --> 00:28:28,450 He just brought in three or four ideas. 348 00:28:28,574 --> 00:28:31,646 I do remember instantly seeing the pyramid. 349 00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:33,552 They came in, and they looked around, 350 00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:35,647 and they went... "That one." 351 00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:37,693 Everyone immediately went 352 00:28:37,783 --> 00:28:40,127 "Terrific. Great. Let's do that." 353 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:43,096 As epitomised by their ability to choose it so quickly 354 00:28:43,188 --> 00:28:46,032 and so easily, I just think it's somehow very fitting. 355 00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:48,400 I mean, it's hard to imagine it without it, isn't it, really? 356 00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:02,418 The story in America had been a sort of disaster, 357 00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:05,010 that, really, we hadn't sold records. 358 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:07,420 And like all good artists, the first thing you do 359 00:29:07,512 --> 00:29:09,617 is blame the record company. 360 00:29:09,715 --> 00:29:11,854 But in this particular case, 361 00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:13,930 I think we might get a few more people to agree 362 00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:15,896 that they hadn't performed properly. 363 00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:19,993 And so they brought in a man called Bhaskar Menon, 364 00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:21,604 who was absolutely terrific, 365 00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:24,367 and he decided he was going to make this work, 366 00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:27,171 and he was going to make the American company 367 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,940 sell this record. And he did! 368 00:29:30,035 --> 00:29:32,811 We devised a marketing campaign for this 369 00:29:32,904 --> 00:29:35,976 which was far more extensive 370 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,418 than anything that the company had ever done. 371 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:43,220 It was an album that came after virtually a year of touring. 372 00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:47,559 There was a tremendous amount of credible press. 373 00:29:47,686 --> 00:29:49,893 We had, by this time, without a single, 374 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:52,594 got this album tremendous sales. 375 00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:54,726 Close to about 1,000,000 albums by that stage, 376 00:29:54,826 --> 00:29:56,806 you know, which was quite remarkable. 377 00:29:56,928 --> 00:30:00,501 And I knew a time would come when we would have to 378 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:02,875 get onto the next stage. 379 00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:06,574 To get to the next category, or level, of audience. 380 00:30:06,672 --> 00:30:09,812 We really would need some single-like material. 381 00:30:09,908 --> 00:30:13,583 They always say, you know, "You need a hit single," 382 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:16,023 and we had a sort of hit single with Money. 383 00:30:37,369 --> 00:30:41,283 You know, I would have remembered writing Money 384 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:45,082 as a sort of very blues-y thing. 385 00:30:45,210 --> 00:30:48,521 I can't sing it up in that register, but... 386 00:31:21,012 --> 00:31:23,458 And it's a very kind of transatlantic, 387 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,994 you know, blues-y sort of twang to it all. 388 00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,598 Listening to the original demo, it's not like that at all. 389 00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:32,134 It's all very, kind of, prissy and very English. 390 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:36,036 The one thing about Money that I think people forget 391 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,005 is that it's got the weirdest... 392 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:40,576 One of the biggest hits, with the weirdest time signature. 393 00:31:40,665 --> 00:31:43,441 Very unusual, 7/8 time. 394 00:31:44,436 --> 00:31:46,177 Good riff. 395 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:44,539 I'd played in a band with Dick 396 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,735 when we were sort of teenagers in Cambridge. 397 00:32:47,833 --> 00:32:50,541 Dick was sort of part of the Cambridge Mafia. 398 00:32:54,873 --> 00:32:57,046 I didn't know any other sax players, 399 00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,123 and I'm probably too nervous to ask anyone we'd heard of. 400 00:33:00,212 --> 00:33:01,714 He was terrific. 401 00:33:02,614 --> 00:33:05,925 Well, Dick did his sax solo in seven-time. 402 00:33:06,051 --> 00:33:08,759 And then we sort of sat and worked out 403 00:33:08,854 --> 00:33:11,198 a different sequence for the guitar solo. 404 00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:13,360 Probably to make my life easier, 405 00:33:13,458 --> 00:33:15,233 so I didn't have to think about the timing. 406 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,738 I love the fact that it does change. 407 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:20,002 And, you see, lots of things happen on Dark Side 408 00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:22,168 that, for me, are kind of magical, 409 00:33:22,267 --> 00:33:25,146 without us intentionally making them happen. 410 00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:27,114 They just happen. 411 00:33:27,205 --> 00:33:29,446 And I think that's one of the great things about Money, 412 00:33:29,541 --> 00:33:31,748 is that it does change time signatures. 413 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:34,221 And that's the thing. It goes back into the 4/4, 414 00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:36,087 and all of a sudden, man, it's rock city. 415 00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:22,337 Money is an amazing single, because it's about 416 00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:25,738 the very thing that it became. It's about success. 417 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:27,832 Something certainly did the trick, 418 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:30,379 and it moved us up into a super-league, 419 00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:32,709 I suppose you might say. 420 00:34:33,638 --> 00:34:40,351 Which brought with it some great joy, some pride, 421 00:34:40,478 --> 00:34:42,958 and some problems. 422 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,254 'Course it changed our life. 423 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:47,591 We were now a big rock 'n' roll band 424 00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:49,393 playing in stadiums. 425 00:34:49,487 --> 00:34:51,330 You don't know what you're in it for any more. 426 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:54,870 You know, you're in it to achieve massive success, 427 00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:58,474 and get rich and famous and all those other things 428 00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:00,474 that go along with it. 429 00:35:00,565 --> 00:35:03,569 And when they're all suddenly done, you're going 430 00:35:03,668 --> 00:35:06,547 "Well, why? What next?" 431 00:35:06,638 --> 00:35:08,549 It's not to say we didn't do some good work. 432 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,678 But the good work that we did was actually all about 433 00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:14,723 a lot of the negative aspects of what went on 434 00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:20,058 after we'd achieved the goal. 435 00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:23,291 I mean, that obviously informed 436 00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:26,369 what turned out to be the next album, quite deeply. 437 00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:28,164 Wish You Were Here. 438 00:35:28,259 --> 00:35:30,796 'Cause we weren't, most of us, most of the time. 439 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:33,876 They were a platinum monster, and... 440 00:35:34,933 --> 00:35:36,606 It's not a lot of fun. 441 00:35:44,376 --> 00:35:46,014 It's sort of 442 00:35:46,111 --> 00:35:49,581 amazing to me now that we had that piece of music 443 00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:54,653 in 1969, when we recorded the music for Zabriskie Point. 444 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:58,394 And throughout, I guess, Atom Heart Mother, 445 00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:01,266 the Obscured by Clouds album, the Meddle album, 446 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,829 we didn't dig it out and use it. It's such a lovely piece. 447 00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:18,753 Antonioni didn't really know what he wanted. 448 00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:21,380 He needed, desperately, to have control. 449 00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:23,857 So even if you did the right thing, 450 00:36:23,948 --> 00:36:26,053 and it was perfect, he couldn't bear to accept it 451 00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:27,858 because there wasn't a choice. 452 00:36:27,952 --> 00:36:31,092 All he really wanted was Careful with that Axe, Eugene. 453 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:33,226 And I think we were all getting a bit frustrated. 454 00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,769 "What does he want?" 455 00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:36,839 I think I was just sitting in the studio, 456 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:38,874 and I was sitting at the piano, 457 00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:41,603 and they happened to have this violent sequence up, 458 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,579 and I was watching it. 459 00:36:44,669 --> 00:36:47,013 Probably because I was feeling a bit tired, or whatever, 460 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:49,244 I just started the chord sequence. 461 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:51,376 At the time, I think, everyone thought 462 00:36:51,476 --> 00:36:53,046 "This is really good." 463 00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:57,149 When we thought we'd really got something brilliant 464 00:36:57,248 --> 00:36:58,989 for his movie, 465 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,061 Antonioni would say 466 00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:06,465 "ls beautiful, but is too sad." 467 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:09,164 You know? "It makes me think of church." 468 00:37:09,294 --> 00:37:12,867 It was obviously waiting to be reborn in this album. 469 00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:23,548 The lyrics are so direct and linear. 470 00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:25,882 Those fundamental issues 471 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:30,891 of whether or not the human race is capable of being humane. 472 00:37:33,885 --> 00:37:35,421 What's good about the writing of this song, 473 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,500 from my point of view, 474 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:40,035 is the leaving of the gaps for the repeat echo. 475 00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:52,371 It's kind of strange, hearing it without the echo, isn't it? 476 00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:17,303 I find myself, with instrumentalists, 477 00:38:17,395 --> 00:38:19,875 over the years working with people, 478 00:38:19,998 --> 00:38:23,571 having very, very often, as a producer, 479 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:25,909 in my capacity for producing records, 480 00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:29,611 having to say to people "No, leave a hole. 481 00:38:29,707 --> 00:38:32,153 "You know, just play for half a bar, 482 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:35,884 "and then leave a bar and a half free. You know, empty." 483 00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:38,221 And that's kind of what that song is. 484 00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:40,887 You know, that's the way it works. 485 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:43,932 The simplicity of Floyd is almost hard to talk about, 486 00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:46,730 because it is so simple. 487 00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:51,205 Nick Mason playing very slowly. You know, exact, 488 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:54,003 without a lot of 489 00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:58,877 overly frilly percussion flourishes. 490 00:38:59,604 --> 00:39:01,811 Richard's touch on piano and organ, 491 00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:04,284 very gentle, very soft. 492 00:39:04,409 --> 00:39:08,880 But also exact, and just hitting the notes right. 493 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,425 It was always about leaving space. 494 00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:34,479 I think Dave and Rick, 495 00:39:34,572 --> 00:39:37,212 their harmony vocals on it are really very affecting. 496 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,618 Funnily enough, they have very similar voices. 497 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:42,317 Both their voices are a big factor in Dark Side, 498 00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:44,415 the way they... The way they blend. 499 00:39:49,153 --> 00:39:51,292 That's Dave and Rick together. 500 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,335 And then Rick does another part below that, 501 00:39:53,424 --> 00:39:55,904 which you're gonna hear now. 502 00:39:55,994 --> 00:39:58,873 And then the girls are also joining in. 503 00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:46,511 It seemed to me really important, 504 00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,887 I've no idea why it did, 505 00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:52,017 to have voices on this thing. 506 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:55,154 The only thing that was clever about it was how to do it, 507 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,790 so not to... Not to have an interview. 508 00:40:57,922 --> 00:41:00,459 Devised, probably, in the canteen, 509 00:41:00,591 --> 00:41:03,731 and done later that evening. 510 00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:07,605 So I wrote out a bunch of cards with questions on them. 511 00:41:07,732 --> 00:41:10,042 I think what the voices did on the record was, 512 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:12,011 they actually brought out the "Dark Side". 513 00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:14,275 They were, in a way, the Dark Side of the Record! 514 00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:16,282 First of all, we used a number of people 515 00:41:16,374 --> 00:41:18,684 who were in the studio with us. So we used 516 00:41:18,776 --> 00:41:20,653 three or four of our road crew... 517 00:41:20,745 --> 00:41:22,782 I aren't frightened of dying at all, 518 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,019 'cause when you've gotta go, you've gotta go. 519 00:41:25,116 --> 00:41:27,096 The Irish doorman here, Gerry. 520 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:29,563 Why should I be frightened of dying? 521 00:41:29,654 --> 00:41:32,134 See no reason for it. You've got to go sometime. 522 00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:34,361 Wings were recording in here at the same time, 523 00:41:34,459 --> 00:41:36,996 so we used Paul and Linda, Henry McCullough... 524 00:41:37,128 --> 00:41:39,404 I don't know. I was really drunk at the time. 525 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,875 It's the people who are not used to being interviewed 526 00:41:42,967 --> 00:41:44,571 who come up with the stuff. 527 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:48,014 I think they started off with "What's your favourite colour?" 528 00:41:48,106 --> 00:41:51,144 And your favourite food. And none of which was... 529 00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:52,653 it was just to get people there. 530 00:41:52,744 --> 00:41:55,122 Then they went into "When was the last time you were violent?" 531 00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:58,422 This was the good bit. "When was the last time you were violent?" 532 00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:01,122 And then you'd take... You'd answer it, and then 533 00:42:01,219 --> 00:42:03,995 take the next card, and it said "Were you in the right?" 534 00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:07,797 Yeah, I was in the right. 535 00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:09,962 Yes, absolutely in the right. 536 00:42:10,094 --> 00:42:11,971 I certainly was in the right. 537 00:42:12,096 --> 00:42:15,134 Definitely. That geezer was cruising for a bruising. 538 00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:18,874 And this remarkable roadie called Roger The Hat. 539 00:42:19,003 --> 00:42:21,415 If I participate in this fuckin' effort, 540 00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:24,214 I hope I'm gonna get my gold disc at the end of it. 541 00:42:24,308 --> 00:42:26,584 Imagine that, huh? 542 00:42:26,711 --> 00:42:29,317 They tried to track him down to do the cards, 543 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:30,893 and by the time they got hold of him, 544 00:42:31,015 --> 00:42:33,757 the cards had gone missing. I don't know where they'd gone. 545 00:42:34,752 --> 00:42:37,130 So Roger Waters actually ended up doing it... 546 00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:39,030 He actually did do that one as an interview. 547 00:42:40,124 --> 00:42:42,502 Do you ever think you're going mad, Roger? 548 00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:47,400 I once reached a stage in my life 549 00:42:47,498 --> 00:42:50,877 when I was completely convinced that I'd gone over the brink. 550 00:42:51,002 --> 00:42:52,675 Well, that's what I care to call it. 551 00:43:06,684 --> 00:43:09,187 It was obviously a bit to do with Syd, and... 552 00:43:10,988 --> 00:43:16,404 I think it's about defending the notion of being different. 553 00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:25,099 The fundamental question that's facing us all 554 00:45:25,189 --> 00:45:29,035 is whether or not we're capable of dealing with 555 00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:31,037 the whole question of "us and them". 556 00:45:31,128 --> 00:45:33,699 What he was feeling as an individual 557 00:45:33,798 --> 00:45:38,076 mirrored almost exactly what a lot of other people 558 00:45:38,169 --> 00:45:40,206 were feeling, at the time, in their own lives. 559 00:45:40,304 --> 00:45:42,341 There's no question in my mind that Dark Side of the Moon 560 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,511 was one of the most important artistic statements 561 00:45:44,609 --> 00:45:46,486 of the last 50 years, probably. 562 00:45:46,611 --> 00:45:50,491 It's touched very many people, all over the world, 563 00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:53,357 in ways that could not simply be put down to the fact that, 564 00:45:53,451 --> 00:45:56,762 oh, they're nice tunes, and I like that bit at the end. 565 00:45:56,854 --> 00:45:58,663 I mean, this was a complete experience. 566 00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:01,566 It was actually a really grim time. 567 00:46:01,692 --> 00:46:05,265 And he wrote a very grim record, 568 00:46:05,363 --> 00:46:10,335 but did it with music that was extremely uplifting, 569 00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:12,471 compelling and bewitching. 570 00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:15,777 I think it was a very, very happy 571 00:46:15,873 --> 00:46:18,877 and creative and enjoyable time when we made this album. 572 00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:23,288 It was probably the most focused moment in our career, 573 00:46:23,414 --> 00:46:26,395 in terms of all of us working together as a band. 574 00:46:26,517 --> 00:46:29,794 I'd love to have been a person 575 00:46:29,887 --> 00:46:32,493 who could sit back with his headphones on 576 00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:34,763 and listen to that the whole way through, 577 00:46:34,859 --> 00:46:36,600 for the first time. 578 00:46:36,694 --> 00:46:40,608 You know, I never had that experience, but... 579 00:46:40,698 --> 00:46:42,575 it would have been nice. 580 00:46:42,667 --> 00:46:45,375 The thing that's often missed is the fact that, basically, 581 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:48,006 people are responding to it on an emotional level. 582 00:46:48,105 --> 00:46:50,176 And that's what makes great records. 583 00:46:50,274 --> 00:46:53,414 It's driven by emotion. 584 00:46:53,511 --> 00:46:55,684 There's nothing plastic about it, you know? 585 00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:58,852 There's nothing contrived about it. 586 00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:01,589 And I think that's what has given it... 587 00:47:01,686 --> 00:47:04,895 Well, maybe one of the things that's given it its longevity. 588 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:21,005 But that's not to say that the potential 589 00:48:21,098 --> 00:48:23,135 for the sun to shine doesn't exist. 590 00:48:23,234 --> 00:48:25,646 You know, walk down the path towards the light, 591 00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:28,580 rather than walking into the darkness. 592 00:48:28,672 --> 00:48:31,084 There is no dark side in the moon, really. 593 00:48:31,175 --> 00:48:33,086 Matter of fact, it's all dark.48205

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