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This is a man who cycled into the Sahara
desert.
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This is a man who lived in a street of
brothels in Algiers.
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Who taught himself Sanskrit.
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who was distressed by the words used to
his most famous tune, I vow to thee my
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country, because they were the opposite
of what he believed, who instinctively
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understood the violence of mechanized
warfare, and who had an absolute horror
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of the inevitability of old age and
death.
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Holt's most famous work, The Planets, is
the most performed and recorded piece of
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English music in the repertoire. Over
200 different international recordings.
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But there are still people who turn
their noses up at The Planets. Well,
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more fool them, I say. It's one of the
most original and extraordinary and
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brilliant things in English music.
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Full stop.
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And the fact that it is also very
popular really shouldn't blind us to
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this. It is so inventive all the way
through. This is a mind at the absolute
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full stretch, an extraordinary mind at
full stretch.
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For instance, the beautiful,
unbelievable sounds of these atonal
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chords swinging backwards and forwards
at Saturn. This is something completely
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unlike what any English composer had
attempted before then, and actually
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isn't very much like what any
continental composer was doing at the
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time either.
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And maybe it's that old thing about
custom staling something's infinite
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variety, but maybe we need to just stand
back from this piece and forget the fact
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that we know it well, or many of us do,
and just listen to it afresh. And that's
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been my experience over the last few
years, and thinking, God, this is an
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astonishing piece.
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the trouble is that his most famous
music has been used and abused so often
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that we no longer have a clear sight
either of what holst originally intended
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or of his greatness as a composer
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I love
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Gustavus von Holst was born in
Cheltenham in 1874, less than 20 miles
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from where his lifelong friend Rafe
Vaughan Williams had been born only two
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years earlier, in Gloucestershire in the
Cotswolds.
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but the myth of an idyllic rural england
was not something which inspired holst
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for him the english countryside much
though he loved it was more akin to
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thomas hardy unforgiving harsh midwinter
bleak
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Thank you.
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The Holst family had come from Riga in
the early 19th century when Riga was
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part of Russia.
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The family was actually German, and two
brothers had actually bought the title
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from the Holy Roman Emperor Joseph II,
patron of Mozart.
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So the Gustav Holst family originates
from that same branch where my family
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comes from.
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My part of the family then became
nobility in 1789, the year of the French
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Revolution, given by Joseph II.
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Just because they had property in
Russia, and it was one of the things to
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keep it in Russia, they had to have the
title.
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So they went down to Joseph II and said,
we need the title, can we buy it?
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This is the seal that Johann Valentin
and Heinrich Christian got the two
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brothers when they got their nobility.
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And here in detail is the family crest.
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which is also on my ring, with which you
would seal important documents, for
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instance.
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But then the family split, and Matthias,
their cousin, who had spent some time as
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a composer at the court of St.
Petersburg, emigrated finally to
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England, probably for economic reasons.
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It was really quite a musical family.
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Holst's grandfather was a composer.
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His father Adolf gave piano lessons at
the house in Pitville Terrace.
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One of his pupils, Clara, became his
wife, Holst's mother.
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But Adolf was also an organist and choir
master, and the sound of church choirs
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in the nearby cathedral in Gloucester
and in All Saints Church in Cheltenham,
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where the young Gustavus was christened,
must have been the earliest sounds he
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would have heard.
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Bow down thine ear, O Lord, hear me, for
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I am poor and needy. Through my
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humble supplication, Lord,
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give ear and acceptation. Be
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merciful unto me.
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And it was no accident that his first
job when he was only 17 was as an
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organist in the heart of the Cotswolds.
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Most Sundays he would walk the 15 miles
from Cheltenham to the little church at
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Wickwissington.
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He happened to be organist there because
he was offered the job and he needed the
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money as well as the experience. It was
his first professional job.
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When I say needed the money, you may not
think that four pounds a year was much.
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but you have to remember that money went
further in those days.
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The experience was very, very useful to
him.
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My father had been to Cheltenham Grammar
School, where he had soon realised that
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music was to be his life.
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The thing that impressed him most, of
course, was that he was so good at
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playing the piano.
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Quite astonishingly good.
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Not a bit like a schoolboy of that age.
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Here we are in Hohl's birthplace museum
with Hohl's own piano here.
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It's not the best musical instrument.
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This has a very light touch.
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So it would have meant that he could
easily play the piano. He was a good
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pianist.
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But the problem would have been for him
was the heavy touches of the German
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pianos. Because Hohl suffered from
neuritis...
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which meant that he was very weak down
his right-hand side.
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He couldn't play on the piano, which had
a heavy touch, and so this instrument
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was found for him.
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He also tried to learn the violin, and
his father, being a good musician
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himself, was determined to get him into
one of the music colleges in London, in
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spite of the fact that the young Holst
already suffered quite badly from
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asthma.
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When he was a schoolboy, he was called
Sausage.
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He was so hopeless at games, you know. I
mean, at school, you can be good at
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games and enhance the honour of your
school and you're held in very high
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regard.
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If you're good at studies and you pass
exams and enhance the honour of your
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school academically, you're a swat and
nobody wants to know.
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And so because he was no good at games,
he was generally disparaged by
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everybody. They just called him sausage,
good for nothing, you know, can't play
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cricket, can't play rugger. And that was
how he got that name.
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His father made him take up the trombone
as a remedy against asthma.
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The boy could hardly breathe at times
and his father thought that playing the
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trombone, where you've got to get your
breath right up into your lungs and play
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this instrument, was good for him. So he
became quite competent as a trombonist.
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Now a trombonist doesn't play as much as
other instruments like the violins, so
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there's quite long rests when he could
sit around and listen to what the other
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instruments in the orchestra were doing.
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and he said he learnt orchestration from
the inside out.
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But he had neuritis in his hands always
and that was always difficult for all
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the writing.
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He was quite frail.
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But of course, with his terrible health
and terrible eyesight, he could hardly
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recognize his own family from the
distance of a few yards.
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He applied for Trinity College and was
turned down.
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And then he got into the Royal College
of Music. But in order to do that, he
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had to take lessons in harmony and
counterpoint.
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And then I think he just sort of, once
he got into the college, he put that
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aside and started to do his own thing.
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In fact, there's a wonderful anecdote
some years later when Imogen herself was
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going to the Royal College of Music.
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She told me that she vividly remembered
her first day when she left home to
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travel to the college.
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She walked down the garden path.
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And Holst stood in the doorway behind
her when she got to the garden gate.
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He shouted out, Remember, whatever you
do, never open a textbook on harmony.
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It was in 1895, that's the year he got
his scholarship, that he first met
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Vaughan Williams.
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And they immediately became great
friends and remained great friends right
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up to the time my father died.
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And from the very early times when they
were at college, they got into the habit
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of meeting as often as possible and
playing through their compositions to
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each other
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half-written stage and criticizing them
and that was i think possibly the most
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helpful thing in music that happened to
my father throughout his whole
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life but it was at morley college in the
slums behind waterloo station
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that he finally found his musical home
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Morley College was formed primarily to
give education to the working classes.
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It was very important for Holst, as he
was once director of music
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here. Initially, I believe, the Morley
trustees wanted to appoint Ralph Vaughan
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Williams, but he actually recommended
Gustav Holst because Vaughan Williams
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felt he didn't have enough time.
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So Holst proceeded to do a lecture on
the horrors of the bagpipe music by
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which the trustees felt this was a great
thing and so appointed him.
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When he first came here he taught music
history but it was his enthusiasm that
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seemed to get the students imagination
and so he was absolutely keen to do
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these large projects, singing projects
of various works and it didn't matter
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whether you had no talent at all or you
felt you had no talent at all, it was
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important for him that people were
making music. His philosophy was that
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anyone could sing.
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The large choir is called the Can't Sing
Choir. It's a great space for people to
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come after work to have a go at singing.
Perhaps they've never sung before.
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Perhaps they haven't given it a go since
they were little because perhaps maybe
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when they were young they weren't
allowed to sing.
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Beautiful. That's a really lovely sound.
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He was very involved in socialist reform
during this time. He used to attend
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regularly lectures by Judge Bernard
Shaw, as well as William Morris, and
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also conduct the Hamasist Socialist
Choir. My father was influenced by
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Morris as a socialist.
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He did care very deeply.
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for some of the things that Morris
wanted to happen.
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It's interesting reading them now
because, of course, after all these
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years, some of them are happening.
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And Morris, I remember, had said at
about this time, when my father was in
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his house, that he wanted people who did
hard manual
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labor, coal miners and rail women, to
have very good
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so that it made up for the fact that
they were doing really very
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unpleasant jobs to earn their living.
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The Morley Chamber Choir also
encapsulates what Holst wanted to do.
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People are from all walks of life and so
within the choir we have students, we
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have costume makers, we have people who
are producers, we have a barrister, we
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have a cleaner.
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So Holst was very much into the idea of
socialism and music being for
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everyone. He wanted to give people,
enrich their lives.
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and politically and artistically. And in
the early 1890s, he used to deliver the
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socialist work on his bicycle, sometimes
with his trombone hanging out the back
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in a rucksack.
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And he was one of the few composers who
worked in the East End of London at a
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time when he could really have done
without it because he was so hard
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-pressed teaching at Morley. He believed
in it, that it was a worthwhile thing to
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do. He brought the working class in,
so-called, the music of Bach.
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For him, success was irrelevant.
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What mattered was that you did your job.
If you were a composer, you composed
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whether you were successful at it or
not.
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whether you appreciate it or not, but
you should do what you want to do.
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Now, this singles him out very
differently from all the other people
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who have become famous and well-known.
It almost consigns him to oblivion.
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If you say Morley College now, people
are used to the very high standard of
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music making that goes on.
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But they were real beginners in those
days.
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Some of them couldn't read their notes.
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He tried to teach them.
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And some of them really didn't make an
awfully nice sound on their instruments.
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I remember there was one woman who had a
paralyzed right arm.
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And she had... play the violin by
leaning against the wall with
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her paralyzed arm and moving the violin
to and fro.
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But my father, yes, don't frown, it was
all right, because my father put her
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among other violinists who could play,
and so she did very little damage.
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And of course it was the making of her
life.
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And it was primarily because of his
health that in 1903 he set off for
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Algeria and the Sahara with 50 pounds
given him by Vaughan Williams.
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And there he lived in the street of the
Oulad Nails, the street of the so-called
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dancing girls.
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Bye.
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what now
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This whole idea of using repetitive
patterns, particularly repetitive
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rhythmic patterns, to create a hypnotic,
mesmeric, meditative effect, something
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that circles round rather than
travelling in a straight line.
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This is something that he was onto way
in advance.
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The minimalists, John Adams or Steve
Reich, Philip Glass.
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And again, you have composers today like
Harrison Birtwistle and Mark Anthony
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Turnage. Hollywood.
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John Williams' film scores wouldn't be
John Williams' film scores without the
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example of the way Holst particularly
writes for The Wind and the Brass.
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Wonderfully clear ears and amazing
abilities to recreate just even the
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simplest sounds and textures.
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That, surely, it has to be Holst. Holst
is the grandfather of all this sort of
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thing.
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And in his choral writing, especially
about death, he casts a long shadow over
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Walton, Britain, tip it with some of the
most heartfelt coral writing ever
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profound yet utterly simple
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Some people say, oh, did you take two
whole years to write one work?
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But the poor man was still earning his
living teaching three schools and having
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spent all day in a school, would then
get onto a bus and go to Morley College
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and teach his grown-up amateurs, choir
and orchestra, composition
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classes, in the evening.
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And the only time he had for composing
then was at weekends and in the month of
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August.
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You'll remember that he was an
ex-trombone player, that he'd begun
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earning his living playing trombone.
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so that bandsmen's music was very much
part of his working life.
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I think it's the beginning of his real
individual style of
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writing, because he'd only recently
grown out of writing Bad Imitation
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Wagner, and with the influence of
Purcell, one of his very favourite
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composers, and the influence of the folk
songs that he'd learnt when Vaughan
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Williams collected them,
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you get this beginning of the genuine
host.
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I remember he told me he used to borrow
Russian books, not in Russian, from his
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friend Vaughan Williams, and he'd prop
them up, and then he'd get so used to
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the bits where he wasn't wanted that
he'd read, and when he could recognize a
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cue going on, he'd raise his trombone
and come in exactly the right moment.
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His chief job, when he began, however,
was playing in the music hall, end of
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the pier bands.
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Brighton, Eastbourne, which is a bit
grim, three shows a day, but he probably
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played for many of the great music hall
stars in the East End at the end of the
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19th century.
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But if she turns her head like so,
something doing, don't you know?
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Every little movement tells a tale.
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If you're happy, tell to you all the
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wonderful things that his first wife
goes to do.
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Don't stop crying.
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If you do, you are a threat.
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Grab him by the whiskers, swing him
round the room and say, is your first
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wife happy?
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And it was billed as a kind of Hungarian
orchestra.
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And they were all ordinary English
musicians, but they were ordered in the
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interval when they walked around and had
a drink at the bar, they had to talk in
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thick foreign accents so that people
would think they were real Hungarians.
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And they liked this. It was all a bit of
a laugh because they're all just young
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chaps, really, you know.
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And of course, Holst, with his name at
that time, Gustavus von Holst, sounded
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very Central European.
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And I think somebody said to him, with a
name like that, you're going to go a
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long way in British music.
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The problem for all English composers at
the end of the 19th century was the
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complete dominance of the German
symphonic sound.
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Brahms, for example, and particularly
Wagner.
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So the discovery by Cecil Sharp, Vaughan
Williams and Holst of a huge treasure
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house of English folk songs was of
crucial importance.
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a woman called lucy broadwood published
the first ever collection of british
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folk songs the way the melodies were
constructed the irregular rhythms the
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modal harmonies it was all like a breath
of fresh air
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As a composer, you do wonder, what
language shall I speak in?
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And I think when you first start, you're
naturally going to copy other people
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until you find your own language in
which you can work.
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And I think Focus On gave them a chance
to think, oh, this is something we can
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actually start to look at.
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It was in the air, you know, this sense
of preserving things.
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The National Trust was founded in 1895,
for instance, and the rich vein of old
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English carols, not the Victorian
variety, mostly German, of course, but
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from Northumberland, from East Anglia
and from Cornwall, was profoundly
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important for Holst.
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It was an attempt to hold on to things
before they vanished in the new
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industrial age.
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but it wasn't so much preservation as
complete reinvention.
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Ironically, it was his discovery of his
own language that helped spread his
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music around the globe.
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You have to think of Hulse as part of an
alternative, anti-establishment,
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underground culture.
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He was a socialist long before it was
fashionable, a vegetarian and someone
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who was fascinated by other ways of
life, particularly the Indian.
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He believed that one should be
interested in other religions, not just
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our own, other mythologies, other
poetry, the world of China, India,
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Finland, Scandinavia generally, and that
they could actually offer us something.
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Instead of us offering them
Christianity, perhaps we could learn
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from them.
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oddly enough of all places cheltenham
where he was born probably encouraged
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him to develop this world view it was
full of people who had worked in the
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indian civil service or the army and
retired to cheltenham from india
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cheltenham was very famous for its
particular quality of its curries that
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were served at the promenade so there
was definitely an indian background to
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cheltenham there would be people who had
been to india knew it very very well
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But Holst was interested not merely in
the philosophy of Hinduism, but in its
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sense of ritual and dance, which was
often reflected in his own ballet music.
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He even learned Sanskrit and wrote many
major works based on the Ramayana,
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Mahabharata and the Rig Veda poems,
works which were central to Hindu
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philosophy.
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This poem invokes the God that will
guide us along the roads of this world
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to the roads of the next.
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Perhaps the most important teaching job
Holst undertook, again, you see, he
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needed to earn money to be able to find
the time to compose, was here at St
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Paul's Girls' School on Brook Green in
Hammersmith, along the road from where
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he had conducted the Hammersmith
Socialist Choir.
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And, of course, he wrote music for the
school orchestra, the St Paul Suite, of
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course, and right at the very end of his
life, the Brook Green Suite.
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When Holst taught here, the school, a
girls' school, was new.
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It had opened only ten years before, in
1904, but that in itself was also
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something quite revolutionary, and it
was Frances Grey, the first High
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Mistress. It was her inspiration to
actually appoint somebody as director of
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music who was really new on the scene,
not just somebody who was in the
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establishment. Of course, that was high
Edwardian England in those days.
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very establishment and very, well, fixed
in its moral standings. But she somehow
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saw in this young man, he was barely 30,
in fact, yes, 31 when he was appointed,
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somebody who could be, first of all, a
great educator, because he'd already
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given the theory out that he wanted
music to be enjoyed by all, not just the
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elitist, the way it is sometimes seen.
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And Francis Gray appointed him.
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to be this leading light, avant-garde
composer.
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Almost inevitably, I vow to thee my
country has become virtually the school
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anthem. But I sometimes wonder if they
have the faintest notion how much Holst
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hated those words.
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It was useful for him to have the job at
St Paul's because it paid his rent.
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I mean, it was a job to him.
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I don't think people made a great fuss
of him. As a composer, he wasn't feted
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the way composers are these days.
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He didn't give the impression of being a
great composer.
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He was much loved in the school.
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Everyone knew him as Gussie.
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And we saw him around, but...
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You didn't have the feeling that you
were, even to the extent that you have
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with Vaughan Williams, that you were in
the presence of someone rather special.
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Well, this is the so-called Holst Room
at St Paul's Girls' School, which Gustav
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Holst designed for himself.
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And it was in this room that he would
have written nearly all his works,
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especially The Planets, as we know, was
begun in this room. But thereby hangs a
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very interesting tale.
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Holst always wrote directly for the
orchestra.
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Not piano first, then orchestrate later.
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But because of his crippling neuritis,
he actually had a pen strapped to his
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middle finger to enable him to write at
all.
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He had two young ladies from the school,
Nora Day and Valli Lasker, waiting at
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the other end of the room, as it were.
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As soon as a page of the score was
finished, they would quickly make a
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piano reduction and try bits out for
him, so that he could hear what he had
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written. I found the actual score here
in a cupboard a few years back.
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And so The Planets was in fact first
performed in this room.
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Four hands, one piano.
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The school does still possess a very few
of the manuscripts.
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This is very interesting, because this
is what everybody in the world knows as
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the St Paul's Suite, which, of course,
he wrote for the senior girls in the
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school, a very difficult virtuoso piece
of a string orchestra.
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But it's called the Suite in C.
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And, in fact, I had no idea that it was
called Suite in C originally.
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It's exactly the score that we know. And
there are dozens and dozens of
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alterations to his original, extremely
neat manuscript.
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Cuts, bar numbers changed, extra voices
added in. And this room was kept
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superheated for him at the weekends
because of his arm pains.
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It was kept superheated and he was fed
and watered by his wife and daughter, as
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far as we know, who would see him
through his work until about tea time,
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sensible hour on a Sunday afternoon,
five o'clock, off he'd toddle back to
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home round the corner.
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But it's the sound of that suite that is
so shocking. On the one hand, familiar,
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almost predictable string writing, and
suddenly something altogether
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unfamiliar, 30 years before Benjamin
Britten wrote like that.
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Where on earth does that sound come
from?
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Holst used to go on long walking
expeditions into the English countryside
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with his friend Vaughan Williams.
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Ironically, neither of them much cared
for these walks, Vaughan Williams
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because of his bulk, Holst because of
his very poor health.
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But one day they came across the village
of Thackstead in Essex and Holst went
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into this enormous church and what
should he see hanging there but the red
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flag.
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I think Helst found Thaxton instantly
attractive.
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It was a place which lots of London
socialists, in fact, wandered through
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with that great habit of walking in the
countryside that was characteristic of
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the early 20th century. Lots of people
wandered into Thaxton and were instantly
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hooked. It was a combination of the
music, because even before Helst
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arrived, there had been an attempt to
revive a new kind of church music in the
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parish church. The colour, decorating
the church with banners.
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hangings, new bits of furniture with
decoration on them, and the beauty of
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the services, an attempt to recreate an
intense religious experience with
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incense and processions.
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It all came together in a heady mix, I
think, for anyone who arrived, and with
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the politics absolutely at the centre,
because the sermons were almost always
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political.
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And the sermons were given, preached, by
one of the most remarkable priests in
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the early part of the 20th century,
known as the Red Vicar, Conrad Noll.
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His politics were very, for the day,
very, very left-wing, almost bordering
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on communism.
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He introduced a red flag into the
chancel, as well as a green one,
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strangely enough.
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The red flag at the time of some riots
for social justice to, you know, the
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church is backing you.
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and the green one to show his support
for what he felt was unfair treatment of
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the Irish.
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Holst at one point wanted to build a
tennis court for his wife and daughter
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and for their friends so that they could
play tennis on a Sunday afternoon and he
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lived in Monk Street and there was an
adjoining small piece of land which was
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suitable and so he applied to the farmer
and said, you know, could I
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buy this piece of land?
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He was met with a stern refusal, Farmer
believing that he was a German spy,
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knowing of his relationship with Conrad
Noll, who he completely disapproved of,
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disapproved of popish ways, absolutely
refused point blank to sell him the
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piece of land, and declared something
along the lines of, you know, if you
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think I'm going to see Beelzebub on the
one hand and the Pope of Rome on the
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other playing lawn tennis on my land on
the Sabbath, you know, no fear.
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At the time, the leading lights, the
church wardens and so on, had the front
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seats in the nave.
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The workers and the poorer people were
behind, and he changed all that.
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And so you could say he put down the
mighty from their seat and exalted the
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humble and meek.
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He was a militant socialist and thought
that at times eggs might have to be
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broken. And he sees himself as a great
anti-imperialist. He wants to see a
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commonwealth of nations across the
world.
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And we find in Noel's writings about
God, continual use of musical language,
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the Trinity, which for him symbolized
the unification of nations, both being
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separate but also one whole.
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He describes as God being a chord, a
rich chord, much more resonant than a
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single note.
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And we find him talking about the
implementation of the will of God on
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earth being the work of God's orchestra.
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Music and song and dance in particular
have been part of man's social life and
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ritual life for centuries.
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We're talking about 1910.
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The revival of Morris dancing was just
beginning, and it was part of the arts
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and crafts movement of William Morris
and Gustav Holst.
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People have said to me, Why are you
dancing in church?
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What is this Morris dancing?
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01:20:48,940 --> 01:20:49,919
Isn't it pagan?
446
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,960
And I said, what better way of showing
your skills than to dance
447
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,920
if you are a believer in front of the
altar of your God?
448
01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:13,060
That, again, is a huge legacy that we
were given by Gustav Holst.
449
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:20,140
People not unkindly referred to him as
Mr.
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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,160
Fon or the German.
451
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,120
Baxter became a publishing center.
452
01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:35,140
They set up a press that produced
tracts, tracts against imperialism,
453
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:40,380
tracts against usury, a new vision of
church and politics to the nation as a
454
01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:44,920
whole. So he makes a great distinction
between the flag of St. George as the
455
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,220
flag of the English and the Union Jack,
which is a token of imperialism, which
456
01:21:49,220 --> 01:21:53,440
is not to be allowed in the church, is
something that is to be associated only
457
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:59,160
with the authoritarian and nasty side of
the Church of England's association with
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01:21:59,160 --> 01:21:59,799
the state.
459
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,360
At the same time, although he's a
Catholic in his religion, he can't stand
460
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,460
the Pope for that reason. The Pope is a
fascist.
461
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,720
He would oppose any formal celebration
of Empire, and indeed on Empire Day he
462
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,060
would pin notices to the church door
announcing that at noon the bell will
463
01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:18,740
toll for the victims of imperialism. And
that became a very sore spot with many
464
01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:21,700
of his critics and led immensely to the
Battle of the Flags.
465
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:26,180
And this reflects the fact that during
the First World War, Noel had taken up
466
01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:29,040
hanging the flags of the Allied forces
in the church.
467
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:31,340
At the time, one of those was Ireland.
468
01:22:31,820 --> 01:22:32,960
And by the...
469
01:22:33,710 --> 01:22:36,890
At the end of the war, possibly slightly
afterwards, he'd replaced the Irish
470
01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:39,250
green flag by the tricolour of Sinn
Fein.
471
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:42,590
More and more people rolled into
Thaxton, and by the evening, there were
472
01:22:42,590 --> 01:22:45,810
about 3,000 protesters who gathered for
a meeting at the Moot Hall, or the
473
01:22:45,810 --> 01:22:48,210
Guildhall in the main street, to
protest.
474
01:22:48,590 --> 01:22:52,530
He writes an extraordinary letter to his
wife that evening, who wasn't present in
475
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:56,470
the town, saying that it's a very
serious situation, he's heard rumours
476
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:59,710
that the Black and Tans might be sending
assassination squads over from Ireland,
477
01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:02,210
but that nonetheless, he's going to see
it out.
478
01:23:03,050 --> 01:23:06,990
And the importance of Gustav Holst in
all of this, because of his obvious
479
01:23:06,990 --> 01:23:11,450
sympathy for what Conrad Noll was trying
to achieve, after all, Holst was a
480
01:23:11,450 --> 01:23:15,350
friend of that other militant socialist,
George Bernard Shaw, cannot be
481
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:19,290
overestimated. And perhaps the most
emblematic example of the relationship
482
01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:23,730
between Holst and Conrad Noll was the
story of the song known as The General
483
01:23:23,730 --> 01:23:24,730
Dance.
484
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,900
Oh my love,
485
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,740
sing, oh my love
486
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:59,120
found this poem, a medieval poem, in
which Christ's relationship with the
487
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,540
world is encapsulated in the metaphor of
the dance, and read it one time from the
488
01:24:03,540 --> 01:24:07,100
pulpit. He then ended up speaking to
Hulse about it, showed him the original
489
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:11,180
tune, which the both dismissed as not up
to much, and Hulse took it away to
490
01:24:11,180 --> 01:24:12,580
compose a new one.
491
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,860
A copy of the poem was displayed in the
church, and some of those opposed to
492
01:24:17,860 --> 01:24:20,380
Noel complained to the bishop of this,
saying, the secular poem.
493
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,220
was attached to the wall of the church,
and it noted great pleasure in solemnly
494
01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:28,760
informing the bishop that this secular
poem was in fact a widely used part of
495
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,440
Anglican worship already, and that he
would take it down if he insisted, but
496
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,900
perhaps the bishop might like to
reconsider, which he duly did.
497
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:19,660
So, at Whitsun festivals, when he
brought down singers from Morley College
498
01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:23,420
and St Paul's Girls' School, and at the
gatherings of the Morris dancers from
499
01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:27,600
all over East Anglia, which took place
regularly in Thackstead, it was typical
500
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,220
of Holst that he should take something
really quite workaday, that would be
501
01:25:32,220 --> 01:25:36,180
known by all the agricultural workers
thereabouts, for instance, and then
502
01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:38,880
transform it into something altogether
magical.
503
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,600
We'll be right back.
504
01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:27,390
always enjoyed receiving commissions,
especially those more associated with
505
01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:28,390
the working class.
506
01:27:28,670 --> 01:27:31,530
He always wanted to make himself useful.
507
01:27:31,970 --> 01:27:37,610
So when a commission came along to write
something for all those amateur colliery
508
01:27:37,610 --> 01:27:43,030
and factory brass bands, he jumped at it
and wrote what became a competition test
509
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:46,450
piece for the National Brass Band
Festivals.
510
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:16,920
Thank you.
511
01:29:20,780 --> 01:29:21,780
Thank you.
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01:29:50,510 --> 01:29:54,210
It's very, very important to remember
that at the time Holst began writing,
513
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:57,950
modern music, for the vast majority of
people who cared about it in this
514
01:29:57,950 --> 01:29:59,010
country, was Elgar.
515
01:29:59,370 --> 01:30:01,130
Maybe also Richard Strauss.
516
01:30:01,450 --> 01:30:05,930
For an audience coming along and hearing
the beginning of the planets, it's
517
01:30:05,930 --> 01:30:11,050
difficult for us to sense just how
extraordinarily new this must have
518
01:30:11,050 --> 01:30:15,810
sounded. You just take a look at the
score, and every single element on the
519
01:30:15,810 --> 01:30:19,410
first page, Holst is asking each
instrument to do something which is...
520
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,640
quite unlike what anybody would have
expected at the time. First of all,
521
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:24,900
there's this famous rhythm.
522
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,120
And there you are, he's got the timpani
playing it, fair enough, but he asks
523
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,260
them to play it with wooden sticks
instead of the usual sponge sticks, so
524
01:30:35,260 --> 01:30:37,140
it's a dry, harsh, sharp sound.
525
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,160
Then he asks the violins to play the
same rhythm, col legno, that's turn the
526
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,860
bow round and hit it.
527
01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:48,710
with the back of the bow, with the wood.
So you get this very imprecise tonal
528
01:30:48,710 --> 01:30:52,190
sound with this clicking, this sort of
skeletal, bony kind of sound.
529
01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:55,110
Then he asks something even more
extraordinary of the harps.
530
01:30:56,070 --> 01:31:00,430
Harps normally, in Romantic music, meant
sort of liquid, airy sounds, but what
531
01:31:00,430 --> 01:31:03,070
Hulst is going for here is something
incredibly metallic.
532
01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:07,310
He asks for them... Now, one thing you
really can't do on a harp, and it's
533
01:31:07,310 --> 01:31:10,470
almost impossible on the piano, is
rapid, repeated notes.
534
01:31:10,710 --> 01:31:13,750
So he has each harp dovetail. So one of
them goes...
535
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:21,480
And the other one goes... So they
overlap each other so that the ear hears
536
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:26,220
something that's technically impossible,
which is two harps going... And it would
537
01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:30,540
have been a very dry, metallic,
bell-like sound. Not the kind of thing
538
01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:31,760
you normally associate with a harp.
539
01:31:32,380 --> 01:31:37,740
Put all these together, add something
else, a quiet roll on the gong sustained
540
01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:38,740
in the background.
541
01:31:39,020 --> 01:31:42,020
Gongs were not unknown in the music of
the time, but they were usually for that
542
01:31:42,020 --> 01:31:45,180
big J. Arthur Rank effect, or the quiet
death...
543
01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:50,080
chord at the end of Tchaikovsky's
Pathétique Symphony but here Holst asks
544
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,440
for a very very quiet so that you're
just aware of this sort of sound almost
545
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:57,600
like radio interference in the
background that's not it's not just the
546
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:03,380
pure sound of this is so extraordinary
as well um it's the tempo or rather the
547
01:32:03,380 --> 01:32:08,080
meter Holst asks this music for the
beginning of Mars to be played in five
548
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:13,400
four five beats to the bar and yet it's
clearly a march who marches in five
549
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:18,380
beats to a bar It's all part of this
extraordinary inhumanity that he's
550
01:32:18,380 --> 01:32:22,120
trying to create, the sound of something
mechanical, something inhuman marching
551
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:27,700
here. And 5-4, things in five beats at
the bar, were still pretty unusual in
552
01:32:27,700 --> 01:32:29,380
English music, even in 1914.
553
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,800
My grandfather, who was a...
semi-professional choral conductor,
554
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,520
remembered going round about there to a
performance of Tchaikovsky's Pathétique
555
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,780
Symphony, which has a movement in five
beats to the bar in it, rather famously.
556
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,700
The conductor didn't know what to do
with this, so he opted for four plus
557
01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:47,680
one, like this. One, two, three, four,
one. One, two, three, four, one, one.
558
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,780
And you can imagine the kind of
performance that came out of that.
559
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,900
He finished Mars in the spring and early
summer.
560
01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:01,780
1914 and then went on to the other
movements during the next two years he
561
01:33:01,780 --> 01:33:07,740
said you know I don't think there's any
hope of this being performed in wartime
562
01:33:07,740 --> 01:33:14,200
it's such a vast orchestra he knew it
would be very expensive but a marvelous
563
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:20,500
thing happened in 1918 one of his
friends was the composer and patron
564
01:33:20,500 --> 01:33:26,200
of music Balfour Gardner And Balfour
gave him a present
565
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:31,720
of a rehearsal with the new Queen's Hall
Orchestra
566
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,680
and Adrian Bolter, conductor.
567
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:40,220
My great-uncle, Balfour Gardiner, who
was a bit of a maverick, was in a way
568
01:33:40,220 --> 01:33:45,720
the sort of fairy godfather to Holst in
many ways. I mean, Balfour...
569
01:33:46,990 --> 01:33:53,290
put on these amazingly prescient series
of concerts at the Queen's Hall in 1912,
570
01:33:53,370 --> 01:33:58,550
1913, 1914 of contemporary English
music. I mean, nobody had done that
571
01:33:58,550 --> 01:34:00,010
before with the LSO.
572
01:34:00,430 --> 01:34:04,030
He had a certain amount of private means
himself. He paid for the whole damn
573
01:34:04,030 --> 01:34:05,030
thing.
574
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:10,890
And he allowed composers of the day to
suddenly to have a platform and a voice
575
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:11,910
there at the Queen's Hall.
576
01:34:12,350 --> 01:34:15,450
And it really put English music
suddenly...
577
01:34:15,930 --> 01:34:22,570
on on the map in a way that never done
before um and then uh just before
578
01:34:22,570 --> 01:34:27,910
gustav holst was sent off to work for
the ymca as education officer in the
579
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:34,030
near east he came to balfour with the
score of the planets and said this is it
580
01:34:34,030 --> 01:34:36,270
and baffle said i'm going to give you a
performance of this
581
01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:44,150
One of the characteristics, I think, of
both Holst and Vaughan Williams is that
582
01:34:44,150 --> 01:34:49,250
they were distrustful of industrial
capitalism and what it brought.
583
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:58,470
Both of them recoiled from this
mechanization, not just in war, but in
584
01:34:58,470 --> 01:35:04,890
general. And I think he didn't like the
sort of brutal mechanism, both in its
585
01:35:04,890 --> 01:35:08,410
manifestation in people's lives and the
actual sounds it made,
586
01:35:09,580 --> 01:35:14,100
evocation of a dreadful mechanical
slaughtering process an awful
587
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:18,840
industrialized complex where people are
reduced to sort of dots by the sheer
588
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,140
power and noise and brutality of the
machines
589
01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:33,160
of
590
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,000
course the planets which was written in
this in this very room the holster most
591
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,500
of it written in this very holster um
592
01:35:38,860 --> 01:35:43,720
...is more than just a prophetic piece.
I think it does have obvious prophetic
593
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,540
elements. But it's a very profound study
of the nature of humanity altogether.
594
01:35:48,060 --> 01:35:51,900
He knew that there were forces at work
to crush the human spirit.
595
01:35:52,220 --> 01:35:55,860
You know, that imperialism... Many
people would have claimed that the
596
01:35:55,860 --> 01:36:00,300
imperialist project was a moral one...
...was an educative one, a civilizing
597
01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:04,440
one... ...but Holst as a socialist would
no doubt have encountered the idea.
598
01:36:05,130 --> 01:36:08,970
that's much more prevalent now, that
basically it was an economic project,
599
01:36:09,250 --> 01:36:12,810
and that the moral pretensions were
disguised for this.
600
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:16,830
And I think he would have seen how
precisely those kind of acquisitive,
601
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:20,910
grasping, greedy forces were the ones
that had created the dark, satanic
602
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:26,690
mills. I'd never heard his music before,
and of course in those days it was very
603
01:36:26,690 --> 01:36:30,590
modern, and to us, full of discords.
604
01:36:31,010 --> 01:36:33,370
And when we did the rehearsal, I must
say,
605
01:36:34,570 --> 01:36:38,350
I didn't like it very much because it
sounded all discords, as if everybody
606
01:36:38,350 --> 01:36:39,350
was singing out of tune.
607
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:46,850
But when we came to the concert itself,
and I heard the whole thing in toto, so
608
01:36:46,850 --> 01:36:48,970
to speak, it was absolutely magnificent.
609
01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:54,950
I then realized I sort of appreciated
it. At the same time, this little man, I
610
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:59,210
did wonder how on earth he ever came to
write anything like Mars, for instance,
611
01:36:59,310 --> 01:37:02,730
which is one of the noisiest bits of
music I believe has ever been written.
612
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,180
how he could have produced that.
613
01:38:54,990 --> 01:38:55,990
We are.
614
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:49,700
Thank you.
615
01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:55,420
My father had only one attempt at
writing film music, something called The
616
01:43:55,420 --> 01:43:59,560
Bells, which has long since disappeared,
as far as I know.
617
01:43:59,780 --> 01:44:03,940
But his younger brother, Emil, had quite
a career in Hollywood, where he was
618
01:44:03,940 --> 01:44:09,400
known as Ernest Cossart, usually in
small parts, but often with famous
619
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,080
actors such as Ronald Reagan.
620
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:12,680
Come in, come in.
621
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,500
I'd like to talk to you for a little
while, Mr. Monaghan.
622
01:44:17,700 --> 01:44:18,940
Is Randy here?
623
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,920
I don't want her to see me looking like
this. I just want to talk to you.
624
01:44:23,260 --> 01:44:24,260
She's upstairs.
625
01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:26,120
I was just puttering around here.
626
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:28,500
Never know what to do with myself some
days.
627
01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,980
When Ma was alive, we'd sit and talk.
628
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:32,960
How about a cup of coffee?
629
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,440
No, thanks. The constable gave me some
coffee.
630
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:36,720
Well,
631
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,820
I didn't have to go there and get drunk.
No, you didn't. To tell you the truth,
632
01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:42,620
son, I've been meaning to talk to you
for some time.
633
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:43,920
You won't need to.
634
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,140
I gave myself a talking to this morning
when I woke up in jail with three other
635
01:44:48,140 --> 01:44:49,140
guests of the town.
636
01:44:50,670 --> 01:44:53,970
I want a job, Mr Monaghan. Can you get
me a job in the railroad?
637
01:44:54,510 --> 01:44:56,590
I've got no place on the section gang,
Drake.
638
01:44:59,050 --> 01:45:00,990
I guess I will have some coffee, please.
639
01:45:01,570 --> 01:45:06,810
I think Holst had wanted to do something
during the war, but of course, with his
640
01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:10,130
terrible health and terrible eyesight,
he was useless for the army.
641
01:45:10,490 --> 01:45:17,290
So he volunteered to do work amongst the
troops, kind of social musical work, and
642
01:45:17,290 --> 01:45:19,370
he applied to the YMCA.
643
01:45:20,060 --> 01:45:26,140
They asked him would he mind going over
to Salonika and Constantinople to do
644
01:45:26,140 --> 01:45:30,400
some musical work just to boost the
morale of the troops that were there.
645
01:45:30,660 --> 01:45:37,040
And he felt that the von sounded too
German and he couldn't
646
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:42,020
work for the British army with a German
sounding name and that's when he dropped
647
01:45:42,020 --> 01:45:47,900
it. And I since also established that he
had to pay a lot of money for it.
648
01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:51,550
And he wasn't very happy about it at
all. It wasn't that he could just say,
649
01:45:51,610 --> 01:45:53,710
I'm not using my phone anymore.
650
01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:59,510
So he was again asked. First of all,
they had to buy it. And secondly, they
651
01:45:59,510 --> 01:46:02,730
had to buy it again, not to use it any
longer.
652
01:46:03,810 --> 01:46:08,350
And while he was traveling over there,
the armistice was signed. And so the war
653
01:46:08,350 --> 01:46:09,089
was over.
654
01:46:09,090 --> 01:46:13,630
So when he got over there, there were
thousands of troops hanging about with
655
01:46:13,630 --> 01:46:14,630
really nothing to do.
656
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,960
So this was an opportunity for him to
organise choirs, orchestras. It was like
657
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,820
Morley College, but over in Bulgaria.
658
01:47:43,530 --> 01:47:48,990
He wasn't trying to write music to be a
kind of serious composer, to write great
659
01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:52,450
masterpieces that are going to last for
posterity.
660
01:47:57,730 --> 01:48:03,350
He was not interested in honours, he was
not interested in awards, he didn't want
661
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:07,510
to go to smart cocktail parties with a
lot of other fancy people.
662
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,660
If music needed to be written for a
choir or a Whitsun festival or whatever,
663
01:48:36,820 --> 01:48:41,100
he would write it. Or some idea he had
inside of himself that he would like to
664
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:42,660
write, that is what he did.
665
01:48:52,650 --> 01:48:55,830
He was also completely lacking in
musical snobbishness.
666
01:48:56,070 --> 01:49:02,330
All music making was the same to him, so
it was quite natural for him one evening
667
01:49:02,330 --> 01:49:05,770
he might be conducting the London
Symphony Orchestra in the Queen's Hall
668
01:49:05,770 --> 01:49:07,190
in the professional concert.
669
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,200
The next morning he might be conducting
a gang of schoolgirls at St Paul's
670
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:17,040
Girls' School, and then in the evening
trying to encourage some amateurs at
671
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,040
Morley College.
672
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,920
It was all the same. He didn't
distinguish between them and say, oh,
673
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,400
this is more important than that.
674
01:49:35,210 --> 01:49:37,690
Perhaps think of Vaughan Williams as a
symphonist.
675
01:49:39,630 --> 01:49:42,310
We think of Britten as an opera
composer.
676
01:49:44,530 --> 01:49:49,650
And Holst did a bit of this and a bit of
that, whatever took his interest.
677
01:49:50,990 --> 01:49:54,290
But there's a difference between the
general public and musicians.
678
01:49:54,890 --> 01:50:00,710
For instance, he only wrote one brass
band piece, the Moorside Suite, but it
679
01:50:00,710 --> 01:50:02,690
is a classic of brass band writing.
680
01:50:03,450 --> 01:50:06,670
and held in very high regard by brass
band players.
681
01:50:08,490 --> 01:50:14,870
Audiences may hear or even sing in the
bleak midwinter and not know who it's
682
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:15,870
actually by.
683
01:50:22,090 --> 01:50:24,590
They know it's good music, they sing it
at Christmas.
684
01:50:25,090 --> 01:50:28,910
They don't necessarily associate it with
the name Gustav Holst.
685
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:41,500
He was particularly influenced by
places, Hammersmith, where the river
686
01:51:41,500 --> 01:51:46,620
goes past the bustling life in the
markets there, and Egdon Heath,
687
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:51,860
wonderful evocation of that part of
Dorset where he liked to roam across the
688
01:51:51,860 --> 01:51:55,760
countryside. And I think that was part
of his philosophy in a way, that
689
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:01,500
regardless of the human life that goes
on on Egdon Heath in Dorset, the land
690
01:52:01,500 --> 01:52:04,680
itself remains the same, would remain
there for centuries.
691
01:52:05,150 --> 01:52:07,250
will be there regardless of what we do.
692
01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:08,650
We come and go.
693
01:52:38,570 --> 01:52:45,390
My father had become a great admirer and
acquaintance of Thomas Hardy, for whom
694
01:52:45,390 --> 01:52:50,350
Egerton Heath was an area not only of
inspiration for several of his novels,
695
01:52:50,490 --> 01:52:57,070
but a place of witchcraft and
superstition, and in winter a no-man's
696
01:52:57,070 --> 01:52:59,170
land that was very, very bleak.
697
01:52:59,670 --> 01:53:04,790
Sadly, Hardy died before the first
performance, which was greeted with
698
01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:07,730
complete indifference, even a few boos.
699
01:55:00,810 --> 01:55:04,290
For much of his life, Holst was
convinced he was a failure.
700
01:55:19,410 --> 01:55:24,710
Much of his music was not performed
professionally, or when performed, more
701
01:55:24,710 --> 01:55:29,230
or less instantly forgotten, some of it
not published even today.
702
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:45,680
He had high hopes, but he failed to win
various new music competitions he'd
703
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:51,200
entered, especially with his early opera
Sita, the influence of Sanskrit and
704
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:52,200
Hinduism again.
705
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:58,580
And so he turned for consolation to the
study of something called Theosophy, a
706
01:55:58,580 --> 01:56:00,700
philosophy he had learned from his
stepmother.
707
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:06,320
Theosophy was founded in the year Holst
was born by a Russian immigrant called
708
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:07,580
Helena Blavatsky.
709
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,640
It was a doctrine she claimed to have
learned from a monk in Tibet.
710
01:56:11,980 --> 01:56:17,040
It became a huge thing. It was very much
anti-establishment feeling. It was anti
711
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,040
-church, the established church, that
is.
712
01:56:19,660 --> 01:56:22,160
And she was also interested in
phrenology.
713
01:56:22,780 --> 01:56:26,760
Phrenology was the study of the bumps on
people's heads, and you can actually
714
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:32,620
still find porcelain heads with bumps on
it so that people could sort of work out
715
01:56:32,620 --> 01:56:36,280
a basic thesis. But obviously, mostly,
it was...
716
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,980
feeling people's bumps and deciding what
it meant. I mean, the phonology that
717
01:56:40,980 --> 01:56:47,460
Host had in 1892, the year that he knew
he had failed to get into a music
718
01:56:47,460 --> 01:56:52,800
college and therefore felt a complete
failure,
719
01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:56,400
wondering what his destiny was going to
be.
720
01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:14,790
And what was his destiny?
721
01:57:15,150 --> 01:57:16,690
How was his life going to unfold?
722
01:57:17,010 --> 01:57:18,330
What was the nature of himself?
723
01:57:19,130 --> 01:57:22,750
Because he had fallen into one of these
terrible depressions that he was liable
724
01:57:22,750 --> 01:57:24,150
to have from time to time.
725
01:57:24,350 --> 01:57:29,690
It was only in desperation, in one of
his moments of terrible desperation in
726
01:57:29,690 --> 01:57:35,190
1913, that his friend Clifford Bax, who
was another theosophist, a poet and a
727
01:57:35,190 --> 01:57:38,550
dramatist, suggested to him that he
investigate astrology.
728
01:57:39,470 --> 01:57:46,270
The astrological map... is a picture of
the self at birth and the
729
01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:51,310
way it develops it will develop
according to your character character is
730
01:57:51,310 --> 01:57:58,150
destiny and the astrological map that he
prepared for himself fortified
731
01:57:58,150 --> 01:58:02,610
him in his work and that what he was
doing was the only thing that he could
732
01:58:02,610 --> 01:58:07,930
do so he went to astrology to find
himself at the moment when he thought
733
01:58:07,930 --> 01:58:12,150
he'd lost everything And there at the
beginning of the sixth movement, Uranus
734
01:58:12,150 --> 01:58:17,190
the magician, we actually have Holst
with a rather crafty little bit of code
735
01:58:17,190 --> 01:58:22,030
writing, showing that he himself is the
magician. This is who the magician is,
736
01:58:22,090 --> 01:58:25,490
it's me. And the way he does that is
with this famous little motif.
737
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:33,990
Now that's G, E flat, A, B.
738
01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:38,720
But in German notation, which of course
has to be more complicated than English,
739
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:45,340
that's G, S, for E flat, E double S, A,
H,
740
01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:47,020
which is what they call our B.
741
01:58:47,780 --> 01:58:54,780
G, S, A, H are the musical letters of
the
742
01:58:54,780 --> 01:58:58,160
name Gustav Holst. And in fact, the
first and last letters, of course, are
743
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:03,800
G, H, his initials. So there he is
saying, it's me, I'm the magician.
744
01:59:04,410 --> 01:59:07,250
the creator of this astonishing
Technicolor score.
745
01:59:07,630 --> 01:59:09,390
Composers are magicians.
746
01:59:09,710 --> 01:59:13,110
It's quite obvious they are magicians
because they conjure things out of
747
01:59:13,110 --> 01:59:18,490
nowhere and write and construct
monuments in sound which you can't
748
01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:19,490
touch.
749
01:59:19,570 --> 01:59:24,210
This is a magical process and most
people don't understand it.
750
01:59:24,490 --> 01:59:28,870
So you can understand poetry, you can
understand painting, but many people
751
01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:33,570
can't understand or have any feeling
about what do composers do.
752
01:59:59,630 --> 02:00:03,050
The planets music, those seven pieces
for large orchestra.
753
02:00:03,730 --> 02:00:08,090
Adding the names of the planets to the
titles of the movements was very much an
754
02:00:08,090 --> 02:00:09,090
afterthought.
755
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:14,510
But considered astrologically, which
Holst undoubtedly did, there is a
756
02:00:14,510 --> 02:00:15,510
specific plan.
757
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:20,170
And the planets describe aspects of
human nature.
758
02:00:21,650 --> 02:00:27,390
Perhaps a journey from the brutality,
the mechanization of man, as in Mars.
759
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:33,300
towards the enlightenment in which a
buddhist a hindu such as holst himself
760
02:00:33,300 --> 02:00:39,780
believed the mystery of the self in a
mysterious and infinite universe
761
02:00:39,780 --> 02:00:44,780
that is what he tells in that final
movement called neptune
762
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:56,320
And then on the great day, we all
assembled in the manager's office, and
763
02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:01,480
we were told to stand up when Mr. Holtz
came in. He was a small man with very
764
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:06,140
thick lens glasses, and my impression
was he did everything at the double. He
765
02:02:06,140 --> 02:02:07,140
sort of rushed about.
766
02:02:07,900 --> 02:02:12,840
And for Neptune, we really were supposed
to be voices in the far distance.
767
02:02:13,140 --> 02:02:14,740
I think we were supposed to be mermaids.
768
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,880
And we weren't seen. We sang behind the
stage, at the back.
769
02:02:20,590 --> 02:02:23,790
And we just, we didn't sing words, we
just sang to ah.
770
02:02:25,010 --> 02:02:30,190
And as it finishes, towards the end, the
voices get quieter and quieter and they
771
02:02:30,190 --> 02:02:32,350
die away and that's the end of the whole
work.
772
02:02:32,590 --> 02:02:37,710
And what happened was we slowly walked
out of the building while someone very,
773
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:39,310
very slowly closed the door.
774
02:06:00,140 --> 02:06:05,280
He was never the same after the accident
way back in 1923 when he fell off the
775
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:06,560
podium in Reading.
776
02:06:07,220 --> 02:06:09,480
He never really recovered from that.
777
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:11,280
He had the neuritis.
778
02:06:11,660 --> 02:06:17,000
And in his last years, when he had the
operation, it was called a duodenal
779
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,680
ulcer, which is what he was suffering
from.
780
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,100
But then people have said to me, of
course you know it was really cancer.
781
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:30,150
And some years ago, mentioning cancer
wasn't done. One didn't speak of it. But
782
02:06:30,150 --> 02:06:34,370
nowadays everybody speaks about cancer
as a well-known disease that has to be
783
02:06:34,370 --> 02:06:40,010
eradicated. But some kind of cancer of
the abdomen he had, I think.
784
02:06:40,530 --> 02:06:44,790
And everybody expected him to recover
from the operation, but it was just too
785
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:47,030
much for his stamina, constitution.
786
02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:48,550
He couldn't do it.
787
02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:30,310
a last work then a farewell perhaps the
lyric movement for viola written when he
788
02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:35,550
was already very ill but not published
until fourteen years after his death
789
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:25,160
I think he's a great inspirer to be
intellectually curious and as open
790
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:28,960
-minded and as wide-reaching in what you
explore as possible.
791
02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:32,900
He clearly left a huge mark on Benjamin
Britten. That extraordinary ability
792
02:09:32,900 --> 02:09:36,400
Holst has to take even a familiar colour
on the orchestra and make it sound like
793
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:37,379
a new discovery.
794
02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:41,020
That's something Britten learnt from the
wonderful text, quite un-English,
795
02:09:41,020 --> 02:09:44,240
textual clarity that he has, almost
analytical clarity.
796
02:09:44,700 --> 02:09:47,960
He described one of his pieces as like
being the sun rising on a frosty
797
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:48,960
morning.
798
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:52,120
It is that astonishing frosty clarity
that you can hear in Hulse music.
799
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:01,360
But at the same time, lucidly simple.
800
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:55,500
from one who'd been his pupil at the age
of eight and never forgot
801
02:12:55,500 --> 02:13:02,360
the passionate way that he taught them
to sing a very simple folk song with a
802
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:08,140
question and answer absolutely in rhythm
and with very clear words
803
02:13:08,140 --> 02:13:14,320
and that has been in her mind ever since
she's an old woman now
804
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:20,030
and there are others like her who
remember how he helped,
805
02:13:20,170 --> 02:13:27,070
not only just teaching them to do music,
but how
806
02:13:27,070 --> 02:13:31,930
he helped without ever saying anything
about it, how he helped them to realise
807
02:13:31,930 --> 02:13:37,590
that music is a part of life that can't
be done without.
808
02:14:40,780 --> 02:14:41,780
No.
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