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14:36,292
I got a couple of phone calls from
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00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:38,669
Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks.
393
00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:40,254
They wanted to say, "Look,
394
00:14:40,338 --> 00:14:42,131
how would you approach this?"
395
00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:43,508
I said, "Well, look.
396
00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:46,094
You're going to hire young men
397
00:14:46,552 --> 00:14:48,554
with no military experience.
398
00:14:49,097 --> 00:14:50,890
And the only thing they really know
about
399
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World War II is the last
400
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bad movie they saw."
401
00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:55,520
And I believe that the way to fix it
402
00:14:55,603 --> 00:14:57,522
was to give actors
403
00:14:57,605 --> 00:14:59,899
some fleeting acquaintance
404
00:14:59,982 --> 00:15:02,485
with what a soldier's
life is really about.
405
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,821
And I thought, "Look, here's a chance
406
00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:05,905
to do it right."
407
00:15:05,988 --> 00:15:07,240
The first thing they did for us
408
00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:08,574
was they set up
409
00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:12,245
a 10-day actor boot camp.
410
00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:14,705
They train us in the same way that
they
411
00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:16,707
train military people.
412
00:15:16,874 --> 00:15:17,917
From here on out,
413
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you're no longer called
414
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by your civilian name.
415
00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:23,714
What's up, yo, dog?
416
00:15:23,881 --> 00:15:24,924
All that stuff's gone.
417
00:15:25,007 --> 00:15:26,592
1940s, right?
418
00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:27,635
We are so f***ed.
419
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Name?
420
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Luz, George.
421
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:32,598
Dirt in the rear sight aperture.
422
00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:34,642
Pass revoked.
423
00:15:34,725 --> 00:15:36,310
George was from Providence, Rhode
Island,
424
00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:38,521
and so he was a tough guy,
425
00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:39,647
and he
426
00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:41,524
and he made people laugh,
427
00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:44,110
and a lot of people loved him.
428
00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,154
Are those dusty jump wings?
429
00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:49,282
How do you expect to slay the Huns
with
430
00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:50,491
dust on your jump wings?
431
00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:52,285
I got a chance to talk to Bill and
Babe
432
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and Carwood, and Bill said to me
433
00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:56,539
constantly, we'd be sitting around,
434
00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:59,000
he's like, "I hope you're funny,
kid."
435
00:15:59,083 --> 00:16:00,668
So I'd be like, "Oh, man, oh, man,
436
00:16:00,751 --> 00:16:02,462
I'm going to ruin this thing."
437
00:16:02,545 --> 00:16:04,755
How you cut that fence and get this
438
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goddamn platoon on the move!
439
00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:09,886
Yes, sir!
440
00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,179
My grandpa Ron,
441
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he told me when I first told him that
I
442
00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:15,433
got this job, and they were
443
00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:17,185
going to send us to a boot camp.
444
00:16:17,268 --> 00:16:18,269
I remember him saying,
445
00:16:18,352 --> 00:16:19,729
"Start running now.
446
00:16:19,937 --> 00:16:21,898
The rest of it's a duck walk, but
just
447
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:23,691
make sure you can run your dick off."
448
00:16:23,774 --> 00:16:25,860
You know? I was like, "Okay."
449
00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:28,946
What company is this?
450
00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:30,323
Easy Company!
451
00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:31,407
What do we do?
452
00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:33,242
We stand alone!
453
00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,037
Hey young punk, don't you be so
fooled.
454
00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,664
I'm an instructor at the Airborne
School.
455
00:16:38,748 --> 00:16:41,250
I'm an instructor at the Airborne
School.
456
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,211
And everybody's a little apprehensive
457
00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:45,338
about meeting Captain Dale Dye,
458
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military advisor to the movies.
459
00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:49,675
You have three tries.
460
00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:52,178
Snap, and surge of power.
461
00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:54,055
You can make it.
462
00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,765
I snuck into platoon
463
00:16:55,890 --> 00:16:56,891
when I was 10 years old.
464
00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:59,268
I saw Dale Dye up on that screen.
465
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:00,978
I'm like, "I want to work with these
people someday."
466
00:17:01,062 --> 00:17:02,647
And I knew it right then.
467
00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:05,733
And then 13 years later, there I was.
468
00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:07,985
I think it's looking good, Webster.
469
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,321
I was cast to play this role, who
clearly
470
00:17:10,404 --> 00:17:12,323
was a man who questioned authority.
471
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:14,659
This guy was going to Harvard.
472
00:17:14,742 --> 00:17:16,452
He had his ticket out of the war.
473
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:17,620
He didn't have to go.
474
00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:19,497
I knew David Webster's
475
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spirit was a powerful one.
476
00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,251
Perconte.
477
00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:27,505
I was ready.
478
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:30,174
I will say, physically, I was ready.
479
00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:32,260
I couldn't have been any more ready.
480
00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:33,427
It was trying to understand
481
00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:34,720
the chain of command,
482
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:36,847
and who people were.
483
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,099
He just couldn't understand that
484
00:17:38,182 --> 00:17:40,518
Captain Dye was just a captain.
485
00:17:40,601 --> 00:17:42,770
He was such a force over our lives
that
486
00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:43,854
you've got to be a general.
487
00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:45,940
Like, you've got-- And he meant it.
488
00:17:46,023 --> 00:17:47,108
And he'd go, "General, I was just
trying--
489
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He'd go, "What?
490
00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:49,694
Perconte, get down and give me 50."
491
00:17:49,777 --> 00:17:52,280
And Jim could just do push-ups
till you're tired.
492
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,614
Like, he'd just-- He'd go--
493
00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:56,492
"Okay, what were you saying?"
494
00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,160
"General, I was saying--" "50 more."
495
00:17:58,244 --> 00:17:59,996
Like he would just start. You know,
he was unbreakable.
496
00:18:02,623 --> 00:18:04,458
Dale did a really smart thing where
497
00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:06,419
he put Damian and I in the same
squad.
498
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:08,045
He made me the squad leader.
499
00:18:08,129 --> 00:18:10,673
And then at a certain point it
shifted.
500
00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,717
And then he got sort of promoted past
me.
501
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,135
And Dale was like,
502
00:18:14,218 --> 00:18:15,219
"You know,
503
00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:17,680
I think it probably, always really
504
00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,099
stuck in Lewis Nixon's craw.
505
00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:21,309
I think there was probably a little
506
00:18:21,392 --> 00:18:23,436
competitive thing between
507
00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:24,895
these guys a little bit."
508
00:18:25,187 --> 00:18:27,064
And I found that really helpful.
509
00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:30,276
I moved up from a private to a
sergeant
510
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,360
almost immediately.
511
00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,570
Not even knowing what I was doing.
512
00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:35,990
And they're like, "Oh, take
charge of your platoon."
513
00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:37,074
The hell does that mean?
514
00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:38,159
Halt!
515
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,577
Platoon Sergeant, take charge.
516
00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:40,995
I mean, you could have read it in a
book
517
00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:42,330
and you wouldn't have gotten it.
518
00:18:42,413 --> 00:18:43,623
You could have been told it six times
and
519
00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:44,707
you would have messed it up.
520
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:46,125
And you realize, "Oh my gosh,
521
00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:47,627
this full immersion
522
00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,546
is how boot camp works."
523
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,923
People came and asked me for advice.
524
00:18:53,007 --> 00:18:54,634
What are we to do, sir?
525
00:18:54,717 --> 00:18:56,552
It was like a crash course
526
00:18:56,761 --> 00:18:58,554
in leadership.
527
00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:00,139
People want your authority.
528
00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:01,724
They want you to be Dick Winters.
529
00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:04,143
They want you to be in charge,
so you've got to deliver.
530
00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:06,520
I want concentrated bursts
of machine gun fire.
531
00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:07,938
Do not waste your ammo.
532
00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:09,774
Go, runner, go. Cover him.
533
00:19:09,899 --> 00:19:11,776
You get scared a little bit,
and you're like,
534
00:19:11,901 --> 00:19:13,527
"I don't know what I'm doing.
535
00:19:13,611 --> 00:19:15,738
I don't know what this is."
536
00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:17,281
And then the second thought I have
537
00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,325
after that was like,
538
00:19:19,408 --> 00:19:21,118
"Well, neither did they."
539
00:19:23,579 --> 00:19:26,332
Now, this is a brand new idea.
540
00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:27,792
It was the first time
541
00:19:28,209 --> 00:19:29,210
that it had been tried.
542
00:19:30,628 --> 00:19:33,464
It becomes a very easy decision
to make later on.
543
00:19:33,756 --> 00:19:35,883
"I'm going to volunteer
for the paratroopers."
544
00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:38,052
Your parents say, "No, please
don't do that.
545
00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:39,762
That's the wrong thing to do."
546
00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:41,472
And so forth.
547
00:19:41,555 --> 00:19:43,099
But you want to be with the best.
548
00:19:44,767 --> 00:19:46,310
Every one of the requirements was
549
00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:47,520
something to conquer because
550
00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:49,563
we wanted to be in the 506.
551
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:51,774
There were all kinds of
552
00:19:52,775 --> 00:19:55,861
exercises that you had to pass.
553
00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:59,365
The ones who couldn't measure up
554
00:19:59,448 --> 00:20:00,783
were moved out of the company.
555
00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:03,994
This training at Toccoa,
556
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,163
which lasted roughly 13 weeks,
557
00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:07,373
let's start off with
558
00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:09,667
physical training.
559
00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:12,712
Learning left face, right face
560
00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:14,088
and you get them in shape.
561
00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:17,883
Some of them lost as much as 40
pounds.
562
00:20:19,093 --> 00:20:20,720
But I didn't have nothing to lose.
563
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,264
I weighed about 130.
564
00:20:23,347 --> 00:20:24,640
If I'd have lost 40 pounds,
565
00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:26,684
I wouldn't have been big enough to
stay.
566
00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:33,649
Orders changed.
567
00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:34,775
Get up!
568
00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:36,318
Lectures are cancelled.
569
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:38,654
Easy Company is running up Currahee.
570
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:41,240
Move! Move!
571
00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:44,702
Currahee.
572
00:20:45,703 --> 00:20:47,955
That was the big obstacle.
573
00:20:48,164 --> 00:20:49,248
To be able to run that.
574
00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:51,917
And I shouldn't say run.
575
00:20:52,126 --> 00:20:53,586
You get the wrong impression.
576
00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:55,045
We didn't run it.
577
00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:58,174
You did a parachute shuffle,
578
00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,385
which is a small shuffling step.
579
00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:03,679
You couldn't possibly run that thing.
580
00:21:03,763 --> 00:21:04,764
Nobody could.
581
00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:06,974
Come on, you can make it up there.
582
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:09,310
Come on. Come on up. Let's go.
583
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:10,936
Come on, Guarnere. Christenson, come
on.
584
00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:11,979
Come on.
585
00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:14,398
They put the fear of the devil in me
586
00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:15,775
when they started telling me about
587
00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:16,984
that mountain, you know.
588
00:21:17,067 --> 00:21:19,236
That you're going to have to run
that mountain.
589
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,613
You run that mountain or you're not
590
00:21:20,696 --> 00:21:23,199
going to be, you won't be in this
outfit.
591
00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,326
You have 50 minutes to the top and
back
592
00:21:25,409 --> 00:21:26,577
and I will be watching you.
593
00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:29,288
What are you waiting for?
594
00:21:29,371 --> 00:21:30,915
The way he trained them,
595
00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:32,958
an unforgiving way,
596
00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:34,794
hardened them.
597
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:37,004
Hi-Ho, Silver!
598
00:21:38,589 --> 00:21:39,715
Now when we talk about
599
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,550
our original company commander,
600
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,719
Captain Sobel,
601
00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,721
he did his best,
602
00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:48,098
but he was in the wrong job.
603
00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,268
They're right out there somewhere.
604
00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:52,478
Let's just get them.
605
00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:54,438
Sir, we have perfect cover here.
606
00:21:54,522 --> 00:21:55,856
Lieutenant, deploy your troops.
607
00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:01,529
I mean, here's a Jewish, urban,
608
00:22:01,612 --> 00:22:03,739
like an older guy, in the Deep South,
609
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:06,408
training a bunch of 18-year-olds,
and...
610
00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:08,369
You know, there was a lot of
611
00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:10,788
anti-Semitism at the time.
612
00:22:10,913 --> 00:22:12,039
He knew he was
613
00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:14,416
beating the shit out of them at
times.
614
00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:18,045
You look tired.
615
00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:19,797
There's an ambulance waiting for you
at
616
00:22:19,922 --> 00:22:21,423
the bottom of the hill.
617
00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:23,384
It can all be over right now.
618
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:24,969
No more pain,
619
00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:26,637
no more Currahee,
620
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,430
no more Captain Sobel.
621
00:22:29,139 --> 00:22:30,432
He was a horse's ass.
622
00:22:32,768 --> 00:22:33,936
Lieutenant Sobel does not hate
623
00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:35,604
Easy Company, Private Randleman.
624
00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:38,607
He just hates you.
625
00:22:39,942 --> 00:22:40,943
Thank you, sir.
626
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:42,695
His message to us is
627
00:22:42,778 --> 00:22:44,154
that you lead men
628
00:22:44,947 --> 00:22:45,948
by fear.
629
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,160
You lead men by strict discipline.
630
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:55,124
I said, "No, you lead it by example."
631
00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:58,419
And we had two different
philosophies.
632
00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:01,005
I performed my duty as I was ordered,
sir.
633
00:23:01,088 --> 00:23:02,089
And I disagree.
634
00:23:02,631 --> 00:23:03,716
So,
635
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,926
your options are quite simple,
Lieutenant.
636
00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:07,595
What is it about Winters that
637
00:23:07,678 --> 00:23:08,888
makes him such a good leader?
638
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,183
Well, he takes his duty
639
00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:16,061
a heck far ahead of his privilege.
640
00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:19,398
And you give your life to
641
00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:22,359
make him look good instead of doing
642
00:23:23,986 --> 00:23:26,405
what you're told or ordered to do.
643
00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:30,284
Dick Winters was a very
644
00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:31,535
good leader, excellent leader.
645
00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:33,454
The men would follow him
in the name of it.
646
00:23:33,537 --> 00:23:34,955
Sobel, they wouldn't.
647
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,125
Easy Company, you passed
your final field test.
648
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:41,921
Bootcamp was arguably the pivotal
point
649
00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:43,881
because it was a group of men
650
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:45,466
who just understood the mission.
651
00:23:45,549 --> 00:23:46,967
And by understanding the mission,
652
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:49,595
it became a brotherhood.
653
00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:51,388
Through your eyes, through your
actions,
654
00:23:51,472 --> 00:23:52,723
through your gestures, through your
655
00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,642
handling of weapons, through your
wearing
656
00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:55,893
of the uniform, everything.
657
00:23:55,976 --> 00:23:57,394
The truth is there.
658
00:23:57,478 --> 00:23:58,646
Let it shine, boys.
659
00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:02,232
Make the world proud
660
00:24:02,316 --> 00:24:03,776
of Easy Company
661
00:24:03,901 --> 00:24:07,780
and the world will celebrate
our forefathers.
662
00:24:08,322 --> 00:24:09,323
Let's not f*** it up.
663
00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:11,742
Yes, sir.
664
00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:14,244
Not bad for a bunch of actors.
665
00:24:14,912 --> 00:24:15,913
H-Hour.
666
00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:16,997
D-Day.
667
00:24:17,665 --> 00:24:19,375
We were thoroughly prepared.
668
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:22,586
The men were
669
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,172
trained, hardened,
670
00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:28,884
Physically and mentally,
671
00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:31,387
and they were ready to jump.
672
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:36,725
Confidence depends on the success of
673
00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:38,102
whatever you're trying to do.
674
00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:40,604
Courage
675
00:24:40,688 --> 00:24:44,191
is what inspires you to do the things
676
00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,151
that are needed to get the things
done.
677
00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:48,070
I've always said courage
678
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,406
is not the absence of fear.
679
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,199
Courage is going ahead and doing what
680
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,868
needs to be done, even if you feel
fear.
681
00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:01,417
D-Day was not an accident that had
worked,
682
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,752
it had been prepared for.
683
00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,130
We just didn't know what we were
doing at the time.
684
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:08,799
We found that out later.
685
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,306
When you reach that point that
686
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:17,558
you're standing in the door,
687
00:25:17,641 --> 00:25:18,892
you're asking yourself,
688
00:25:18,976 --> 00:25:20,811
"What the hell am I doing here?"
689
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:23,397
It's only one thing to do and that's
to go.
690
00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:32,031
The routine was the pilot would turn
on a
691
00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,574
red light by the door
692
00:25:33,657 --> 00:25:35,242
and that was supposed to indicate
693
00:25:35,325 --> 00:25:36,493
that you had, I don't know whether
694
00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:38,871
it was five minutes or three minutes.
695
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:40,414
When you got the red light, you would
696
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:42,249
stand up and hook up.
697
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,127
Hook up!
698
00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,254
See out the door
699
00:25:47,337 --> 00:25:48,589
and I could see the flak,
700
00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:49,715
the tracer boards and
701
00:25:49,798 --> 00:25:51,508
the stuff in the air coming up.
702
00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:55,721
And then he said to me, "Red light."
703
00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,098
Well, by the time I had to go through
704
00:25:58,182 --> 00:25:59,725
that thought process,
705
00:25:59,808 --> 00:26:01,685
he says, "Green light."
706
00:26:01,769 --> 00:26:03,729
And I'm still sitting there on the
deck
707
00:26:04,354 --> 00:26:05,647
of the plane
708
00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,107
and all the guys are sitting down
709
00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:09,359
and so I said, "Oh God, let's go."
710
00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:14,448
We were sort of the guinea pigs.
711
00:26:14,531 --> 00:26:16,658
Everyone wanted to get out of the
planes.
712
00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:18,118
Let's go, let's go, let's go!
713
00:26:18,202 --> 00:26:19,495
Does that light look green to you?
714
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,205
Let's go, let's go, let's go!
715
00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:23,707
No matter where you're at, get them
out.
716
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:25,667
The flak was terrible.
717
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:27,586
And the aircraft was
718
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:29,379
absolutely horrendous.
719
00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:30,798
It was like a
720
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:32,633
July the 4th celebration
721
00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:33,759
ten times over.
722
00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:39,389
I was the first to jump.
723
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:41,391
Let's go!
724
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:48,565
And Randleman was the last to jump.
725
00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:52,027
I was supposed to push everybody out.
726
00:26:53,237 --> 00:26:54,404
It was like jumping off a two-story
727
00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:56,031
building where it was.
728
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:57,199
There was nobody landing
729
00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:58,283
where they were supposed to.
730
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:03,497
I was ten miles from where we jumped.
731
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,002
We were just scattered
732
00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:11,213
from one end of the peninsula
to the other,
733
00:27:11,797 --> 00:27:12,798
men as far as
734
00:27:12,923 --> 00:27:15,759
30 kilometers from their drop zone.
735
00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:17,344
So they're on their own.
736
00:27:17,594 --> 00:27:19,346
But somehow or another those fellas,
737
00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:20,931
individuals of
738
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,266
Joe Toye,
739
00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:24,017
Popeye Wynn,
740
00:27:24,101 --> 00:27:25,352
they found the objective
741
00:27:25,435 --> 00:27:26,895
and they found it on time.
742
00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:29,356
We were all lost,
743
00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,358
but we got to the objective
744
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:33,068
and we took the objective.
745
00:27:37,364 --> 00:27:40,242
Well, on the next morning after
daylight,
746
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,786
I'm in this group, we're moving up
along
747
00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:44,621
this road, and I run into Winters.
748
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:46,665
What's going on?
749
00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,125
What's the holdup? Not sure.
750
00:27:49,751 --> 00:27:52,045
Five'll get you ten it's got
something to do with that.
751
00:27:52,129 --> 00:27:53,172
So Winters is telling me, he says
752
00:27:53,255 --> 00:27:54,715
there's some guys out here,
753
00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:55,799
some Germans out here
754
00:27:57,718 --> 00:27:59,678
firing some artillery pieces.
755
00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,096
He said,
756
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,181
"We'd like to find out
757
00:28:02,264 --> 00:28:03,348
what's going on out there
758
00:28:03,432 --> 00:28:05,017
and see what we can do about it."
759
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,102
There's some Kraut Eighty-Eights up
ahead,
760
00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:08,729
up ahead and to the right about what?
761
00:28:08,812 --> 00:28:10,189
300 yards?
762
00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:11,565
Up through those gardens.
763
00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:12,649
Now they're right between us
764
00:28:12,733 --> 00:28:13,901
and causeway number two.
765
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:16,403
Firing onto the boys landing at Utah.
766
00:28:16,486 --> 00:28:17,487
Think Easy can handle it?
767
00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:18,947
Yes, sir.
768
00:28:19,031 --> 00:28:20,991
There are two guns that we know of,
769
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:22,201
firing on Utah beach
770
00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:25,078
and planning on a third and a fourth
771
00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:27,581
here and here.
772
00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:29,708
The Germans are in the trenches
773
00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:31,835
with access to the entire battery.
774
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:34,004
How many Krauts do you think we're
facing?
775
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,381
No idea.
776
00:28:37,216 --> 00:28:38,634
No idea.
777
00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:41,303
Nothing in the manual tells you how
to
778
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:43,597
react to how to attack these guns.
779
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,265
You have no idea what's there,
780
00:28:45,349 --> 00:28:46,975
how many people are there.
781
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:49,186
All you know is there's a battery of
guns
782
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:50,729
firing at these beaches.
783
00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:53,065
If you knew at the time,
784
00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:55,359
you would not do what you'd done.
785
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:56,860
There could've been 200 men there.
786
00:28:56,944 --> 00:28:58,195
It could've been 10 there.
787
00:28:58,278 --> 00:28:59,279
You don't have no idea.
788
00:29:00,155 --> 00:29:01,531
Captain, second squad.
789
00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:03,325
- Yes, sir. - All right,
you heard the word.
790
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:04,743
Let's move, let's move.
791
00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:09,539
I divided the group into two units.
792
00:29:09,665 --> 00:29:11,333
Lieutenant Compton was with me.
793
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:13,126
I gave him half the men
794
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,503
and I took half the men.
795
00:29:15,796 --> 00:29:17,047
Gave instructions, I went,
796
00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:21,260
"Compton, crawl through the grass.
797
00:29:21,635 --> 00:29:24,263
And as you throw your grenades,
798
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:27,140
I'll charge up with the rest of the
guys."
799
00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:37,776
I get out through this hedge,
800
00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:39,861
and I peek.
801
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:42,364
I look up and I peek through the
bushes
802
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,491
and I see a couple of Germans over
here
803
00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:48,370
about 30, 50 yards away.
804
00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:50,330
And about that time,
805
00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:52,416
Guarnere comes running across
806
00:29:52,499 --> 00:29:54,584
and he jumps in beside me.
807
00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:00,882
Buck Compton, yes.
808
00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:04,469
Him and I were tossing some grenades,
just attacking.
809
00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:06,805
It's stupid when you look
at it, but we were lucky.
810
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:08,181
Very fortunate.
811
00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:10,309
I think the Germans were very,
very surprised
812
00:30:10,392 --> 00:30:11,685
that we attacked them.
813
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,521
They thought they were being
attacked by a greater force.
814
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,773
Let's go! Let's go!
815
00:30:16,898 --> 00:30:18,275
Follow me!
816
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:26,033
Compton, covering fire!
817
00:30:26,116 --> 00:30:28,493
You know, when Popeye was hit
818
00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:30,746
on D-Day morning, he was right beside
me.
819
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,625
So I can speak firsthand on this.
820
00:30:35,709 --> 00:30:37,169
And when he was hit and he
821
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:38,712
went down, he was hit hard.
822
00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:42,424
After I got hit,
823
00:30:44,426 --> 00:30:45,635
and I didn't want to leave him,
824
00:30:45,761 --> 00:30:46,887
you know.
825
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:48,305
I'm sorry, sir!
826
00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:49,556
I screwed up!
827
00:30:49,639 --> 00:30:51,475
You don't want to get in another
828
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:54,019
situation with people you don't know.
829
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:56,563
And I'd been with these people for
830
00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,357
going on three years.
831
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,150
He said, "I'm sorry, Lieutenant.
832
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,401
I goofed.
833
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:02,736
I'm sorry."
834
00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:04,654
For the simple reason that in
crawling
835
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:06,907
across that field of grass,
836
00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:09,076
he had got his butt a little too high
837
00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:11,161
and he got one right through both
cheeks.
838
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,789
And he was hurt hard.
839
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:16,500
But he said, "I'm sorry, I goofed."
840
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:17,584
He didn't say, "Help."
841
00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,753
That is a man.
842
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:22,089
Oh shit.
843
00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:23,256
Hey Popeye, how bad is it?
844
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:25,258
I'm sorry sir, I didn't mean...
845
00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:26,426
He did all the rest of it.
846
00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:27,552
He is a good man.
847
00:31:27,636 --> 00:31:29,513
One, two, three.
848
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,224
Get down.
849
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,308
Get down.
850
00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:36,019
I needed to get
851
00:31:36,103 --> 00:31:37,979
this guy's journey across, you know?
852
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,565
I needed to tell Popeye's story
853
00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:41,650
for his family
854
00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:44,861
and not mess it up.
855
00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:46,780
He felt like he'd let people down.
856
00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:49,616
It's just a testament to...
857
00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:50,700
to these guys and
858
00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:51,868
the...
859
00:31:51,952 --> 00:31:53,370
the brotherhood they had, I guess.
860
00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:56,623
Don't that make you our commanding
officer, sir?
861
00:31:58,041 --> 00:31:59,292
Yeah, it does.
862
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,211
Your big fear is the fact that you
don't
863
00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:02,421
want to let your buddy down.
864
00:32:02,796 --> 00:32:05,382
You don't want to let the fellow
down beside you.
865
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,175
And if you're a leader, you don't
want to
866
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:08,301
let your men down.
867
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:11,888
I think we had made a decision.
868
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:13,598
Let's not make this guy
869
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:14,891
Superman
870
00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:16,017
from episode one.
871
00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:17,727
Let's see him become Superman.
872
00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:19,646
Let's see him do incredible things.
873
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:20,856
But there's still doubt.
874
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:21,940
He's a young man.
875
00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:23,150
He's just jumped in to
876
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:24,276
liberate Europe
877
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:25,485
out of an airplane.
878
00:32:25,569 --> 00:32:26,736
He's 26 years old.
879
00:32:26,903 --> 00:32:29,030
He's got control of 50 men.
880
00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:31,199
And let's just see him grow.
881
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,286
And I don't think Dick liked that.
882
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:36,496
He wanted to characterize him
thinking,
883
00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:37,831
growing into the role.
884
00:32:37,914 --> 00:32:39,583
He said, "I just knew."
885
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,169
I came back to him after
886
00:32:42,252 --> 00:32:44,212
he'd seen the whole thing. I said,
"Now what do you think?"
887
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:45,589
He put his hand in my shoulder and
went,
888
00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,382
"Kid, you nailed it."
889
00:32:51,052 --> 00:32:54,014
This is called "Operation Market
Garden".
890
00:32:54,097 --> 00:32:55,682
In terms of airborne divisions
involved,
891
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,101
this one's even bigger than Normandy.
892
00:32:58,185 --> 00:32:59,978
We're dropping deep into occupied
Holland.
893
00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:03,273
Winters came out when we were
shooting
894
00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,775
episode four, and we get ambushed.
895
00:33:07,068 --> 00:33:08,612
Jump off when one of our other
lieutenants
896
00:33:08,695 --> 00:33:11,406
gets shot, and guys jump off the
tanks.
897
00:33:12,949 --> 00:33:13,950
Dick Winters left.
898
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:16,578
He went home.
899
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:18,163
He said, "I've seen enough."
900
00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:19,873
They couldn't watch it.
901
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:21,708
It was too real for them
902
00:33:21,791 --> 00:33:23,251
to watch what we were doing.
903
00:33:24,628 --> 00:33:25,754
That was the biggest compliment that
we
904
00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:26,922
could have been given.
905
00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:31,551
Were people shooting you when you--
906
00:33:31,635 --> 00:33:33,637
Oh, yeah, that's when I found out
907
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,264
that when you can hear bullets sing,
908
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:38,517
it ain't going to touch you.
909
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,018
But when they snap like
that around your ears
910
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:41,102
ears, they're getting close.
911
00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:44,314
And were they whistling or snapping?
912
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:45,565
Snapping.
913
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:49,819
Fall back!
914
00:33:49,903 --> 00:33:51,029
Fall back!
915
00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:52,113
Fall back!
916
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:55,325
Let's go, let's go, let's go!
917
00:33:55,408 --> 00:33:56,743
Keep moving, keep moving!
918
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:58,828
In Holland...
919
00:33:58,954 --> 00:33:59,955
Let's go!
920
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:02,040
And we have a tough, tough
921
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:04,084
battle there
922
00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:05,168
so that
923
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:07,295
as far as the regiment's concerned,
924
00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:08,380
yes,
925
00:34:08,838 --> 00:34:10,924
we survived it and we won it.
926
00:34:13,009 --> 00:34:15,136
But we lost many engagements.
927
00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:20,267
Come on!
928
00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:21,726
Quiet!
929
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:24,646
Elements of the first and sixth
SS Panzer Division
930
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:26,690
have broken through in the Ardennes
Forest.
931
00:34:27,107 --> 00:34:28,275
We'd been in Normandy.
932
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:30,193
We'd been in Holland.
933
00:34:31,027 --> 00:34:32,612
We knew that we were a
934
00:34:32,696 --> 00:34:34,489
capable fighting outfit.
935
00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:38,785
When we left for Bastogne,
936
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,413
we were short of equipment.
937
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,790
We didn't have enough ammunition.
938
00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:45,834
We didn't have enough warm clothes.
939
00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:48,878
But we had confidence.
940
00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:50,005
Hey, pal.
941
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,256
Hey, pal. Hey, pal.
942
00:34:51,339 --> 00:34:52,340
What happened?
943
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:53,592
Where the hell are you going?
944
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:55,135
They came out of nowhere.
945
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:56,428
They slaughtered us.
946
00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:57,512
You've got to get out of here.
947
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,556
We just got here. Get your ammo.
948
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:01,558
The soldiers that we saw as we went
in
949
00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:03,435
were completely demoralized.
950
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:05,562
I mean, they were just
951
00:35:06,646 --> 00:35:07,897
trying to get out of there.
952
00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:10,692
Make a hole! Hey!
953
00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:11,776
Make a hole!
954
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:12,819
I got ammo!
955
00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:14,237
Grab what you can!
956
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,239
Lieutenant, you're a godsend.
957
00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:20,076
I played Lieutenant George C. Rice.
958
00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:22,787
He made nine runs,
959
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,373
which is unbelievable.
960
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:27,292
I'll try to make another ammo run if
I can
961
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:28,710
but don't count on anything.
962
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:29,794
Thank you, sir.
963
00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:30,879
I'll take this guy.
964
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:35,258
Panzer division is about
to cut the road south.
965
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,928
Looks like you guys are going
to be surrounded.
966
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:40,930
We're paratroopers, Lieutenant.
967
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:42,724
We're supposed to be surrounded.
968
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,309
I remember my grandfather didn't
really
969
00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:47,103
talk about the war, what he went
through.
970
00:35:47,187 --> 00:35:49,856
Even my own dad didn't talk much.
971
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:51,274
Just that generation, just
972
00:35:52,108 --> 00:35:53,860
they're just pretty humble
and they're just quiet.
973
00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:56,154
And so to get these stories is rare.
974
00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:58,948
It's a gem, and it really happened.
975
00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:00,950
And I think, you know,
976
00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:02,619
when you look at this, it's like
977
00:36:02,911 --> 00:36:04,954
it's a history lesson. And you go,
"Whew!
978
00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:06,289
Can you just imagine?"
979
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:08,041
Good luck.
980
00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:09,376
Thanks.
981
00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,046
Really, when you're into it,
982
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:15,090
you kind of start feeling
983
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:16,966
how young everyone was
984
00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:20,553
in World War II and how you go,
"Wait, these were kids."
985
00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:26,643
I don't remember whether it was,
986
00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:28,978
the coldest winter on record,
the coldest in
987
00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,647
30 years or 50 years.
988
00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:32,899
But it was a terribly cold winter.
989
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:37,195
I mean, I can't imagine what these
guys went through.
990
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,281
I would guess that
991
00:36:40,365 --> 00:36:43,201
the glaring part of Bastogne
992
00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:45,745
would be how vulnerable you are.
993
00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:51,000
As they start to surround us,
994
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:54,587
and the defense continued to build,
995
00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:58,216
until we had this 16-mile perimeter
996
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,009
around Bastogne,
997
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,430
which we ended up holding.
998
00:37:03,513 --> 00:37:04,556
We got a man down!
999
00:37:05,432 --> 00:37:06,725
We referred to this later
1000
00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:10,019
as the hole in the donut.
1001
00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:14,524
They got donuts. They got
a hole in the middle.
1002
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:17,318
There's no way you can miss that
hole.
1003
00:37:17,527 --> 00:37:18,737
You're surrounded.
1004
00:37:19,154 --> 00:37:20,739
All they do is just keep shelling
you.
1005
00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:22,282
There's no way you can miss shelling.
1006
00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:27,454
Get your boys out of here! Pull him
back!
1007
00:37:27,537 --> 00:37:28,663
Let's go!
1008
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,331
I remember up in Bastogne,
1009
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:32,292
I was wondering, "Guarnere and I
would
1010
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:33,668
share this hole together."
1011
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:37,338
And we got very close.
1012
00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:41,009
And you, wild Bill.
1013
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:43,803
I've invested too much goddamn time
1014
00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:46,723
shaping you into something useful.
1015
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,350
Guarnere, no question about Guarnere,
is
1016
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:51,394
that tough, hard...
1017
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:55,565
type of guy.
1018
00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,193
There were others, I'm sure.
1019
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,694
Well, a guy by the name
1020
00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:01,780
of Joe Toye, I remember.
1021
00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:05,408
He was a tough guy, you know.
1022
00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:07,786
And I don't mean that in a
1023
00:38:08,161 --> 00:38:10,371
pejorative. I mean tough...
1024
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:12,957
in terms of fiber.
1025
00:38:14,584 --> 00:38:15,585
Incoming!
1026
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:17,629
Take cover!
1027
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:21,633
Take cover!
1028
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:26,846
Shit!
1029
00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:29,098
You know, in Episode 7, Bill
1030
00:38:29,182 --> 00:38:30,517
and Joe Toye lose their legs.
1031
00:38:32,727 --> 00:38:33,728
Shit!
1032
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:35,271
Come on, Joe.
1033
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:37,023
Come on, buddy. Come on!
1034
00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:40,068
Hold on! I'll be there! I'll be
there!
1035
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:43,696
No!
1036
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:49,327
I wanted to know how Bill
1037
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,204
handled that.
1038
00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:53,414
He talked about how horrible Bastogne
was
1039
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:54,707
and how that constant
1040
00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:56,000
bombardment was really terrible.
1041
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:57,669
But
1042
00:38:57,919 --> 00:38:59,879
he said, he wouldn't--
1043
00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:01,673
"Yeah, I got hit. And I was, you
know."
1044
00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:04,133
He really played it down down, so I
called Carwood.
1045
00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:06,970
And I talked to Mr. Lipton and he
said
1046
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:08,429
I said, "When he got hit..."
1047
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,390
And he got very quiet
1048
00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:12,517
and I realized he was upset.
1049
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:14,143
And I said, "You know what,
1050
00:39:14,269 --> 00:39:16,145
Mr. Lipton, we don't have to talk
about it.
1051
00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,940
I know it was so raw."
1052
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,068
I went over to Guarnere.
1053
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,572
He was sitting on the ground.
1054
00:39:25,738 --> 00:39:28,533
His leg was badly mangled.
1055
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,076
He was holding his leg and
1056
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:31,494
it was jerking like that.
1057
00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:34,330
And...
1058
00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:38,960
He said, "Lip,
1059
00:39:39,252 --> 00:39:41,921
They got old Guarnere this time."
1060
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:45,466
He had been hit before, but
1061
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:46,593
they really got him there.
1062
00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:56,477
I got you.
1063
00:39:56,561 --> 00:39:58,605
I didn't save Joe Toye's life.
1064
00:39:59,022 --> 00:40:00,607
Maybe I did. I don't know.
1065
00:40:01,566 --> 00:40:03,401
But like I say, he's my buddy.
1066
00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:04,903
I'd have done it for anyone.
1067
00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:08,573
It helped so much as an actor
1068
00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:11,367
when you had the practical
trees blowing up.
1069
00:40:12,327 --> 00:40:13,620
It wasn't on a green screen.
1070
00:40:13,703 --> 00:40:14,704
It was...
1071
00:40:16,998 --> 00:40:18,207
You know, I really felt like
1072
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:21,002
Buck was with me on that moment.
1073
00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,382
Medic!
1074
00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:31,095
And to see my buddies getting
blown up in front of me,
1075
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,806
I felt like Buck.
1076
00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:36,434
And I think that's why that moment
was so truthful, because
1077
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:38,686
we were a band of brothers.
1078
00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:41,898
We were meant to survive.
1079
00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:42,982
All right.
1080
00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:46,235
And we mourn and grieve in a bunch of
1081
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,987
different ways, and we hold the
weight of
1082
00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:49,364
a situation with us.
1083
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,616
And these men held the weight of
the situation with them for
1084
00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:53,242
the rest of their lives.
And they only know the
1085
00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:54,369
thoughts they had in their head.
1086
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,079
And they only know how difficult it
was
1087
00:40:56,162 --> 00:40:57,163
to go to sleep or not
1088
00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,499
for them.
1089
00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:01,459
That was deeply personal to them.
1090
00:41:04,629 --> 00:41:06,673
To lose those two men, it...
1091
00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:08,633
It shook him up.
1092
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,635
Winters decided he was shaking...
1093
00:41:11,052 --> 00:41:13,638
shaken up too much to stay in the
company,
1094
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,056
so we transferred him out.
1095
00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:16,933
Compton was a fine officer.
1096
00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:18,726
A fine soldier.
1097
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,729
It just happened to hit him
at the wrong time there.
1098
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:23,272
You know, he would never say,
1099
00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:24,691
"This is how I felt when this
happened."
1100
00:41:25,441 --> 00:41:26,901
It would be like that
1101
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:28,361
thousand-yard stare
1102
00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:29,904
when I'd ask him
1103
00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:31,489
what it was like on that day.
1104
00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:32,782
Guys like that
1105
00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:35,159
speak volumes by saying very little.
1106
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:44,669
He got to know his men really
well and cared for his men,
1107
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:45,837
which, of course, Dick Winters was
like,
1108
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,213
"You can't get too close to your
men."
1109
00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:48,798
But that just wasn't
1110
00:41:48,923 --> 00:41:50,216
who Buck Compton was.
1111
00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:52,468
If he loved something, he loved all
in.
1112
00:41:52,927 --> 00:41:56,139
And I admire that so much about Buck
1113
00:41:56,931 --> 00:41:59,100
and that's why it was so hard
for him in the end.
1114
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:01,102
There wasn't a thing called
PTSD back then.
1115
00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:04,689
101st Airborne had been made
1116
00:42:04,772 --> 00:42:07,066
famous by what it did in the Battle
of the Bulge.
1117
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:08,818
The newspapers called them
1118
00:42:08,901 --> 00:42:10,695
the battered bastards of Bastogne.
1119
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:12,155
These were ghosts for these men.
1120
00:42:12,238 --> 00:42:13,740
When you call yourself Penkala
1121
00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,616
or Muck or Luz,
1122
00:42:16,075 --> 00:42:17,452
these were not character names.
1123
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,037
They had deep, intimate
1124
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,163
relationships with these guys.
1125
00:42:20,246 --> 00:42:21,330
They loved these guys, and
1126
00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:22,623
you were representing them.
1127
00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:27,628
We toured
1128
00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:29,881
in the footsteps of Easy Company.
1129
00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:31,591
We bonded, Frank and I.
1130
00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:33,426
So this is the only original house?
1131
00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:34,719
No, at the other side in the road
1132
00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:36,679
at the headquarters of the Germans-
1133
00:42:36,763 --> 00:42:40,058
I remember the minute we all
got off the bus in Bastogne.
1134
00:42:40,141 --> 00:42:41,434
We all started to walk in.
1135
00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:43,102
A lot of these men have never been
back,
1136
00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:44,812
most of them have never been back.
1137
00:42:45,938 --> 00:42:46,939
And...
1138
00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:49,776
we kind of pulled back.
1139
00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:51,444
Okay.
1140
00:42:51,527 --> 00:42:52,904
Home sweet home, Bill.
1141
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:54,363
Yes, it is.
1142
00:42:58,367 --> 00:42:59,368
Yes, sir.
1143
00:43:00,036 --> 00:43:01,954
Who knows who laid in this hole
today?
1144
00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:05,666
So walking through there,
1145
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:06,751
you would just see them.
1146
00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:09,796
"Well, I would...
1147
00:43:09,879 --> 00:43:12,256
Well, if he would have been right
here, well...
1148
00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:14,926
Well, yeah, I probably would
have been right here.
1149
00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:16,511
I would have been right here."
1150
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:17,678
And you'd just go, "Wow."
1151
00:43:17,762 --> 00:43:20,098
We had our foxholes right over here,
1152
00:43:20,556 --> 00:43:22,892
and the other area, and the other
area.
1153
00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:25,520
Wherever we had to move
out and dig in again.
1154
00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,023
Because the Krauts had plenty
of artillery.
1155
00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:30,316
Most intentional-
1156
00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:31,400
That went through right here.
1157
00:43:31,484 --> 00:43:32,777
Shelling.
1158
00:43:32,902 --> 00:43:34,612
Most intentional one of them.
1159
00:43:34,862 --> 00:43:36,489
You couldn't believe it.
You had to be here.
1160
00:43:36,823 --> 00:43:38,199
You just dove in the hole
1161
00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:40,201
and just pray, that's it.
1162
00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:42,411
If it comes in, you ain't
going to know it.
1163
00:43:43,913 --> 00:43:44,914
A couple of arms
1164
00:43:45,498 --> 00:43:46,541
went around each other.
1165
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:48,626
Crying, some of them were crying,
1166
00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:49,710
and some of them would make a joke,
1167
00:43:49,794 --> 00:43:50,795
and there'd be a laugh cry.
1168
00:43:51,254 --> 00:43:53,673
This is where you can't believe
that shell's going, sir.
1169
00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:56,259
- Yeah. -Shelling, I don't
remember no shelling.
1170
00:43:57,552 --> 00:43:59,679
Or no Snow, I said.
1171
00:43:59,762 --> 00:44:01,722
You don't believe this guy.
1172
00:44:08,229 --> 00:44:10,523
It was just so impactful for a young
man
1173
00:44:10,606 --> 00:44:12,191
for me, and I know it's not about me,
1174
00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:14,652
to be there and witness that, because
it changes you.
1175
00:44:27,415 --> 00:44:28,749
He said, "Come with me, sir."
1176
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:31,210
What, what, what, what?
1177
00:44:31,294 --> 00:44:32,587
Frank, Frank, what is it?
1178
00:44:34,422 --> 00:44:35,464
I don't know, sir.
1179
00:44:36,966 --> 00:44:37,967
I don't know.
1180
00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:41,095
Took me up to this fence, and
1181
00:44:41,929 --> 00:44:45,433
I was looking at some victims.
1182
00:44:45,725 --> 00:44:47,810
Were in a concentration camp.
1183
00:44:49,187 --> 00:44:50,605
And this was, of course, turned out
1184
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:52,356
to be called a Holocaust.
1185
00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:55,860
And they had killed them,
1186
00:44:55,943 --> 00:44:56,944
starve them to death, and
1187
00:44:57,236 --> 00:44:59,447
buried them like we do garbage
in this country.
1188
00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:02,909
Make a ditch and push them all,
1189
00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:03,993
wad them all in there
1190
00:45:04,076 --> 00:45:05,077
and cover them up.
1191
00:45:07,038 --> 00:45:08,664
So you opened the gates and went in?
1192
00:45:12,668 --> 00:45:14,295
There's no words to describe it,
1193
00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:16,422
but as you looked at them in the eye,
1194
00:45:17,965 --> 00:45:19,217
they would drop their head,
1195
00:45:19,592 --> 00:45:20,927
they would drop their eyes.
1196
00:45:22,428 --> 00:45:24,430
And it would remind you of a,
1197
00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:27,266
a dog that
1198
00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:29,685
was mistreated and been beaten.
1199
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:33,606
And frankly to myself
1200
00:45:33,689 --> 00:45:36,234
I said, "Now I know why I'm here."
1201
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,406
You've been starving to death,
1202
00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:43,908
you've been freezing to death,
1203
00:45:44,367 --> 00:45:45,826
people have been shooting at you.
1204
00:45:46,035 --> 00:45:47,411
Why am I here?
1205
00:45:49,622 --> 00:45:50,957
And after you looked at that,
1206
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,083
you'd say, "I know."
1207
00:45:56,462 --> 00:45:59,799
Nobody had any concept or idea
1208
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,761
that we would see anything like this.
1209
00:46:03,886 --> 00:46:05,805
Ask them what kind of campuses,
1210
00:46:07,556 --> 00:46:08,933
what, uh...
1211
00:46:09,016 --> 00:46:10,017
So when we...
1212
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:12,186
Saw it for the first time,
1213
00:46:12,270 --> 00:46:13,354
it was a shock.
1214
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:14,981
But uh...
1215
00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:16,983
I had no idea what to do.
1216
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:20,486
And...
1217
00:46:20,569 --> 00:46:22,071
Our mission
1218
00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:24,824
was to push on to end this war.
1219
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:28,577
By design,
1220
00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:30,538
production hid that set from us.
1221
00:46:30,746 --> 00:46:31,872
We were not allowed to see it.
1222
00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:33,040
We didn't even know it was being
built.
1223
00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,250
It was built on the other side.
1224
00:46:35,001 --> 00:46:37,837
So when we got to that episode,
1225
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,921
David Frankel,
1226
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:40,381
who directed the episode,
1227
00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:42,341
he had family on both sides
1228
00:46:42,425 --> 00:46:43,467
in camps.
1229
00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:45,928
So it was really, really personal to
him.
1230
00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,307
You know, that episode in particular
was
1231
00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:51,726
a very, very tough episode for
everybody.
1232
00:46:52,143 --> 00:46:54,353
And I think it's because it's the one
that
1233
00:46:54,437 --> 00:46:56,022
really hits home, and again,
1234
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:57,565
the clue's in the title, "Why We
Fight".
1235
00:46:58,316 --> 00:46:59,567
They're Jews.
1236
00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:00,985
You just really recognize
1237
00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:02,320
the weight of the series,
1238
00:47:02,403 --> 00:47:04,238
and what it's gonna mean
1239
00:47:05,114 --> 00:47:06,198
to an audience.
1240
00:47:15,374 --> 00:47:16,959
It's very difficult to find a war
1241
00:47:17,877 --> 00:47:19,628
where there was a clear cut right
1242
00:47:19,754 --> 00:47:21,255
and a clear cut wrong.
1243
00:47:21,339 --> 00:47:22,340
And...
1244
00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:24,091
The Second World War
1245
00:47:25,426 --> 00:47:26,427
is that.
1246
00:47:26,802 --> 00:47:30,097
I think there is a real sense
1247
00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:32,725
that if we had not won it,
1248
00:47:34,352 --> 00:47:37,104
we would be living in a different
world.
1249
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:47,615
We took Berchtesgaden May the 5th.
1250
00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:50,743
Had no fighting, no shooting.
1251
00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:53,913
The war was over May the 8th.
1252
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:57,416
Throughout the world, throngs of
people
1253
00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,126
hailed the end of the war in Europe.
1254
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:00,795
The only thing we cared about,
1255
00:48:02,088 --> 00:48:03,589
Easy Company was gonna watch it.
1256
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:06,759
If this thing won every
award and they went,
1257
00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:08,427
"I don't know.
1258
00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:09,678
I don't know."
1259
00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:11,472
"Very Hollywood."
1260
00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:12,598
It would mean nothing.
1261
00:48:14,225 --> 00:48:15,893
I don't think you can
1262
00:48:17,103 --> 00:48:19,105
get anything bigger in life
1263
00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:20,689
than to be on Normandy Beach
1264
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,691
for the premiere of Band of Brothers
1265
00:48:22,858 --> 00:48:24,527
with the actual Easy Company men.
1266
00:48:25,986 --> 00:48:28,239
Even more important than what
1267
00:48:28,322 --> 00:48:30,157
we thought of it, was gonna be
1268
00:48:30,241 --> 00:48:31,700
what these guys thought of it.
1269
00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:34,245
And I remember just being like,
1270
00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:36,497
"I hope we did them proud."
1271
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:38,791
I think all the actors
are a little nervous
1272
00:48:38,874 --> 00:48:40,084
waiting to see
1273
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,795
how the veterans will respond to the
1274
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,005
portrayal of that man.
1275
00:48:45,089 --> 00:48:47,883
Immediately after the screening
and they saw it,
1276
00:48:48,676 --> 00:48:52,179
immediately half of them were like,
"You son of a bitch."
1277
00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:53,264
You know?
1278
00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:55,641
It was so visceral for them.
1279
00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:57,810
I'd never seen Buck
1280
00:48:58,936 --> 00:48:59,937
get emotional.
1281
00:49:01,272 --> 00:49:03,149
And to get a bear hug
1282
00:49:03,232 --> 00:49:05,734
from Buck Compton was...
1283
00:49:13,117 --> 00:49:14,702
You can keep the Academy Awards.
1284
00:49:16,829 --> 00:49:18,747
You can keep the Emmys, keep
all that stuff, but...
1285
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:21,250
That was my greatest award.
1286
00:49:27,756 --> 00:49:29,258
You never know.
1287
00:49:30,217 --> 00:49:31,302
You can look around the room
1288
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:32,678
at the cast and crew screening.
1289
00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:34,096
You can go and slap backs
1290
00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:35,473
with the executive producers.
1291
00:49:35,556 --> 00:49:37,766
And they were like, "This is quite
good."
1292
00:49:38,058 --> 00:49:41,061
But you never know how the market
is gonna respond.
1293
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:43,647
Well, it was crazy.
1294
00:49:43,731 --> 00:49:45,357
We premiered on
1295
00:49:45,441 --> 00:49:46,525
9/9,
1296
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:48,277
and then two days later
the towers came down.
1297
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,987
A few moments ago, something,
1298
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:53,240
believed to be a plane, crashed
into the south tower
1299
00:49:53,324 --> 00:49:54,742
of the World Trade Center.
1300
00:49:54,867 --> 00:49:56,785
And smashed directly
1301
00:49:56,911 --> 00:49:59,955
perhaps purposefully, into...
1302
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,373
- Oh my goodness. -Oh, God.
1303
00:50:01,457 --> 00:50:02,458
There's another one.
1304
00:50:02,541 --> 00:50:04,126
So we'd only aired one episode.
1305
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:06,420
HBO took a big breath and was like,
1306
00:50:06,504 --> 00:50:08,380
"Well, we're gonna let it air out and
1307
00:50:08,464 --> 00:50:10,466
then we have bigger things to focus
on."
1308
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,801
Tipper!
1309
00:50:13,511 --> 00:50:14,595
Answer me! Tip!
1310
00:50:14,678 --> 00:50:16,347
Hang in there, buddy.
1311
00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:18,891
Okay, we're gonna get you fixed
up, all right?
1312
00:50:19,767 --> 00:50:22,019
- Okay. -Is this the last thing
people want to see?
1313
00:50:22,102 --> 00:50:24,021
Other people dying when the country's
1314
00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:26,232
grieving so deeply for what's
happening?
1315
00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,567
But it kind of became
1316
00:50:28,692 --> 00:50:31,070
this rallying point to kind
of unite people.
1317
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:32,780
That's when I heard the explosion.
1318
00:50:33,155 --> 00:50:35,241
That's when the second
tower came down again.
1319
00:50:35,324 --> 00:50:36,659
I would always ask Bill,
1320
00:50:36,951 --> 00:50:38,744
"If it happened today,
1321
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:41,288
do you think today's generation
1322
00:50:41,580 --> 00:50:42,748
would do the same thing?"
1323
00:50:42,998 --> 00:50:43,999
And he said,
1324
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:45,334
"If it happened today,
1325
00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:46,585
kids would do the same thing."
1326
00:50:49,421 --> 00:50:51,006
And 9/11 happened.
1327
00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:52,591
My phone rang and it was Bill.
1328
00:50:53,092 --> 00:50:54,301
And I picked it up and he said,
1329
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,720
"See what I mean, kid? They're doing
it.
1330
00:50:56,804 --> 00:50:58,514
They're just dressed like
firemen and cops now.
1331
00:50:58,597 --> 00:50:59,598
And EMTs.
1332
00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:01,100
They're going right into those
buildings.
1333
00:51:01,183 --> 00:51:02,184
Same thing."
1334
00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:06,230
All of us were glued to the
television
1335
00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:07,648
and we had it on
1336
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,984
and there was a
1337
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:12,236
firefighter that came on.
1338
00:51:12,695 --> 00:51:14,446
And they were asking him a question
1339
00:51:14,572 --> 00:51:15,614
and he said, "I don't know if you
guys are
1340
00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:16,865
watching that series, Band of
Brothers,
1341
00:51:16,991 --> 00:51:18,742
but that's who we are. We are a band
of brothers."
1342
00:51:18,867 --> 00:51:20,703
And we were all just floored by that.
1343
00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:22,997
Something like that really hits home
1344
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,374
and you realize, "Man,
this project is doing
1345
00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:27,418
more things than I could ever
imagine."
1346
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:32,590
I don't think anyone realized that it
was
1347
00:51:32,673 --> 00:51:34,049
going to sort of become the
1348
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:36,594
sort of warm hug that
1349
00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:39,138
that the country was going to need,
1350
00:51:39,221 --> 00:51:42,182
especially the military families and
1351
00:51:42,266 --> 00:51:44,184
specifically the moms and dads who
were
1352
00:51:44,268 --> 00:51:46,103
sending their kids off to war.
1353
00:51:46,895 --> 00:51:48,188
In a weird way,
1354
00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:49,982
I think
1355
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:51,400
it let them know that they were going
to be
1356
00:51:51,483 --> 00:51:52,901
taken care of by each other,
1357
00:51:53,152 --> 00:51:55,195
even if they couldn't take
care of them anymore.
1358
00:51:55,863 --> 00:51:57,573
And knowing that they wouldn't be
alone,
1359
00:51:57,656 --> 00:51:58,699
knowing that they would have
1360
00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:02,578
found family with them.
1361
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:13,631
A good friend of mine said,
1362
00:52:13,714 --> 00:52:15,132
"Hey, have you seen this book
1363
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:16,258
called Band of Brothers?"
1364
00:52:16,342 --> 00:52:17,926
And I said, "No, I haven't seen it."
1365
00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:19,928
So I read it and
1366
00:52:20,888 --> 00:52:22,264
absolutely clearly
1367
00:52:22,348 --> 00:52:24,683
fell in love with the story,
1368
00:52:24,767 --> 00:52:27,394
but in particular, incredible respect
for
1369
00:52:27,478 --> 00:52:28,479
Dick Winters.
1370
00:52:29,271 --> 00:52:31,023
I started getting all these letters
1371
00:52:31,106 --> 00:52:33,859
from all the members of Easy Company.
1372
00:52:33,942 --> 00:52:35,402
One of the last letters I got was
1373
00:52:35,486 --> 00:52:37,946
actually from Dick Winters.
1374
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,740
He was just a really good guy.
1375
00:52:39,865 --> 00:52:41,158
He became like almost
1376
00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:42,743
the grandfather I never had.
1377
00:52:44,578 --> 00:52:45,788
And whenever I read that book,
1378
00:52:45,913 --> 00:52:46,872
I took my book
1379
00:52:46,955 --> 00:52:48,582
and I gave it around to everybody
1380
00:52:48,666 --> 00:52:50,751
and said, "Hey, you have to read
this book.
1381
00:52:50,876 --> 00:52:52,294
This guy's the model
1382
00:52:52,378 --> 00:52:53,962
for who we have to become."
1383
00:52:54,046 --> 00:52:56,423
Get them going, Buck!
1384
00:52:56,507 --> 00:52:57,508
Follow me!
1385
00:52:58,342 --> 00:52:59,593
Move up!
1386
00:52:59,677 --> 00:53:00,678
Move out, men!
1387
00:53:00,761 --> 00:53:01,762
Go!
1388
00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:02,846
They knew
1389
00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,723
that he loved them.
1390
00:53:04,807 --> 00:53:07,101
His way of showing love to them was
1391
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:08,310
he treated them
1392
00:53:09,061 --> 00:53:10,062
as men.
1393
00:53:10,604 --> 00:53:11,730
He treated them with respect,
1394
00:53:11,814 --> 00:53:12,815
but he held them accountable.
1395
00:53:12,898 --> 00:53:13,899
Understand?
1396
00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:15,901
Yes, sir.
1397
00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:17,569
And it wasn't just in World War II
1398
00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:18,987
where they got
1399
00:53:19,071 --> 00:53:20,989
the moniker of the Greatest
Generation, right?
1400
00:53:21,073 --> 00:53:23,409
It's what they did after the war as
well.
1401
00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:28,497
Nobody has ever asked me that
question.
1402
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:32,543
About...
1403
00:53:34,461 --> 00:53:36,588
About adjusting to civilian life.
1404
00:53:36,672 --> 00:53:38,382
Nobody has brought that thing up.
1405
00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:42,344
Trying to get adjusted to civilian
life
1406
00:53:42,428 --> 00:53:43,804
was very difficult.
1407
00:53:43,929 --> 00:53:45,013
To go out and
1408
00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:47,391
communicate and talk to people.
1409
00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:50,310
It was up to me to make the
adjustment, not them.
1410
00:53:51,019 --> 00:53:52,312
I was the one who was out of line.
1411
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:53,939
They weren't out of line.
1412
00:53:54,022 --> 00:53:56,442
But it was very, very difficult.
1413
00:53:58,485 --> 00:53:59,862
Lewis was around.
1414
00:54:01,029 --> 00:54:02,448
So from time to time,
1415
00:54:02,531 --> 00:54:04,616
maybe once or twice, I'd get to see
him
1416
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:06,201
and I could sit and talk to him.
1417
00:54:07,244 --> 00:54:09,037
And he could talk to me.
1418
00:54:09,163 --> 00:54:10,581
That was a big help.
1419
00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:12,708
But it took time.
1420
00:54:14,168 --> 00:54:16,336
I think we're all looking for heroes
right now, aren't we?
1421
00:54:17,254 --> 00:54:18,922
I think we could all say that
1422
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:20,591
the world needs a hero.
1423
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,552
And these guys were our heroes.
1424
00:54:24,178 --> 00:54:25,179
They were all our heroes.
1425
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:27,765
I don't think I'm a hero.
1426
00:54:32,728 --> 00:54:33,729
Because part of that time,
1427
00:54:34,438 --> 00:54:35,439
what I have done is
1428
00:54:36,064 --> 00:54:37,566
saving my own hide first.
1429
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:41,570
Well, unless you were running out
into
1430
00:54:41,862 --> 00:54:45,616
- ...a rain of fire to go get
your friend... -Yeah.
1431
00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:46,784
to throw him over your back.
1432
00:54:46,909 --> 00:54:48,660
I mean, you did some heroic things.
1433
00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:50,996
Two Bronze stars
1434
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:52,748
would argue with you.
1435
00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:57,085
I just figured I'd done what needed
to be
1436
00:54:57,211 --> 00:54:58,879
done at the time and had done it.
1437
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:04,092
I think, and this is my personal
feeling,
1438
00:55:04,176 --> 00:55:07,095
that accomplishing something
1439
00:55:07,221 --> 00:55:09,014
is what makes a man a hero.
1440
00:55:10,516 --> 00:55:12,684
Not what happens to him,
1441
00:55:12,768 --> 00:55:14,102
but what he gets done.
1442
00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:17,523
And so, as I say,
1443
00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:20,734
I think the word "hero" is overused.
1444
00:55:20,818 --> 00:55:22,277
How can they say you're a hero
1445
00:55:22,361 --> 00:55:23,612
or you did what you...
1446
00:55:23,695 --> 00:55:24,696
Nah, it's...
1447
00:55:26,448 --> 00:55:27,908
Them kids that didn't come back.
1448
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:28,992
They're the guys.
1449
00:55:29,076 --> 00:55:30,327
They're the guys.
1450
00:55:32,621 --> 00:55:34,456
They didn't have to make a judgment
call.
1451
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:36,625
Their judgments were already being
made.
1452
00:55:38,794 --> 00:55:39,920
That's...
1453
00:55:40,963 --> 00:55:43,257
I don't want to get sentimental, but
1454
00:55:44,550 --> 00:55:46,009
this is what you live with.
1455
00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:48,345
And it's not easy.
1456
00:55:48,428 --> 00:55:49,429
Believe me.
1457
00:55:56,019 --> 00:55:57,938
We were ready to hear the stories
1458
00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,022
of our veterans.
1459
00:55:59,648 --> 00:56:01,108
We were ready to
1460
00:56:01,316 --> 00:56:03,443
allow them to be
1461
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:05,487
not flawed, I would say, but
1462
00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:08,407
hurt and in need of things.
1463
00:56:08,824 --> 00:56:10,075
This came along at the time
1464
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:11,159
when it was needed.
1465
00:56:14,246 --> 00:56:15,998
It was an honor. It was a privilege
and an honor.
1466
00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:22,045
The show is never about celebrity.
1467
00:56:22,129 --> 00:56:23,130
We're honoring them.
1468
00:56:23,797 --> 00:56:24,798
It was about
1469
00:56:25,507 --> 00:56:26,508
a legacy
1470
00:56:27,175 --> 00:56:29,011
of a company who
1471
00:56:30,512 --> 00:56:31,638
saved the world.
1472
00:56:32,598 --> 00:56:33,765
I'm proud to have served
1473
00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:35,058
with each and every one of you.
1474
00:56:37,811 --> 00:56:39,187
We lost all the guys now.
1475
00:56:39,271 --> 00:56:40,731
So, I guess we are
1476
00:56:41,189 --> 00:56:43,025
the guys that keep that little
fabric,
1477
00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:44,610
that little through line to them.
1478
00:56:46,111 --> 00:56:48,488
We wear it as a badge of honor.
1479
00:56:51,366 --> 00:56:52,534
When I got the news,
1480
00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:54,202
it was...
1481
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,413
It was heartbreaking
1482
00:56:56,788 --> 00:56:57,915
because this
1483
00:56:57,998 --> 00:56:59,917
incredible energy had left the world.
1484
00:57:00,042 --> 00:57:02,294
It was not a tragedy in that sense.
1485
00:57:02,377 --> 00:57:03,378
You couldn't have lived your
1486
00:57:03,462 --> 00:57:04,880
life fuller than this guy did.
1487
00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:08,425
It's hard to put into words
1488
00:57:09,509 --> 00:57:10,719
how much Buck means to me
1489
00:57:10,802 --> 00:57:12,095
and still means to me and how much
1490
00:57:12,179 --> 00:57:14,139
I think about him all the time and
1491
00:57:14,222 --> 00:57:15,515
all the guys and everything else
1492
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:16,600
and how much I draw from that
1493
00:57:16,683 --> 00:57:18,226
as an artist.
1494
00:57:18,352 --> 00:57:19,353
But even more importantly, how much
1495
00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:20,771
I draw from that as a man.
1496
00:57:20,854 --> 00:57:21,980
I was just asked, you know,
1497
00:57:22,064 --> 00:57:24,691
"What does Dick mean to me now?"
1498
00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:26,944
13 years, 14 years after he died.
1499
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,363
I...
1500
00:57:29,446 --> 00:57:32,157
I think about him a lot.
1501
00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:35,243
A lot.
1502
00:57:35,327 --> 00:57:36,954
I defy anybody
1503
00:57:37,245 --> 00:57:38,997
not to get a lump in the throat
1504
00:57:39,081 --> 00:57:40,624
at the end of episode ten.
1505
00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:43,126
We cut to all the veterans
after every episode
1506
00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:44,586
and then you cut to Dick
1507
00:57:44,836 --> 00:57:46,171
and he tells the story.
1508
00:57:46,922 --> 00:57:47,965
Do you remember
1509
00:57:51,051 --> 00:57:53,804
the letter that Mike Ranney wrote me?
1510
00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:55,597
You do.
1511
00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:57,265
Do you remember how I ended it?
1512
00:58:00,268 --> 00:58:01,520
I cherish
1513
00:58:02,521 --> 00:58:04,439
the memories of a question
1514
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:06,566
my grandson asked me the other day
1515
00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:09,903
when he said,
1516
00:58:09,987 --> 00:58:12,531
"Grandpa, were you a hero in the
war?"
1517
00:58:16,201 --> 00:58:17,536
Grandpa said, "No."
1518
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,918
But I served in a company of heroes.
1519
00:58:28,422 --> 00:58:31,049
It's the most moving thing.
1520
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:33,468
And his mouth goes to the side and he
just
1521
00:58:33,552 --> 00:58:35,595
so you can just see him hanging on.
1522
00:58:35,804 --> 00:58:37,639
I remember our chats.
1523
00:58:37,723 --> 00:58:39,474
You know, those two days in Hershey.
1524
00:58:39,766 --> 00:58:41,059
I remember thinking,
1525
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,896
exactly as the men must have thought
1526
00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:46,106
that fought with him,
1527
00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:48,692
"I don't want to let him down.
1528
00:58:48,984 --> 00:58:52,237
We've got to honor him the right
way."
1529
00:58:55,824 --> 00:58:57,242
I've lived through the day
1530
00:58:57,325 --> 00:58:58,535
that I did my job.
1531
00:58:58,618 --> 00:59:00,746
I didn't leave my men down
1532
00:59:00,829 --> 00:59:02,539
and my men are in pretty good shape.
1533
00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:05,333
I'm very thankful.
1534
00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:08,920
Do your best.
1535
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:11,506
And the ones that did their best,
1536
00:59:12,924 --> 00:59:14,301
you never forget them.
1537
00:59:14,885 --> 00:59:17,054
You'll never forget them for the rest
of your life.
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