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How you doing?

Thank you, people.

Hello, down there.

How are you?

Thank you very much.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Thank you, people.

Well, thank you.

Glad you're in a good mood. It's a somber day. This is the anniversary of

one of the most important events in American history. This is the 25th

anniversary when we were attacked at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

There were ceremonies commemorating it in New York.

Four ex-presidents went. Trump and Pete Hagseth went to the Pentagon, which was

also attacked, where Trump said, we will never forget who attacked us on this

day. Canada.

And Pete Hegseth, he was even more mad about it. He said, these terrorists

tried to destroy the Pentagon, and that is my job.

Oh, it was a very bizarre week, I thought, in politics.

First of all, we found out that AI is going to kill us all, because I've been

saying.

But we'll get to that on panel. We've got hours to live.

And in the midst of that, and...

On the two days when the NFL kicked off their season, Trump decided to have a

midterm convention, which, by the way, is not a thing.

We don't do that.

Okay. But he wanted to assure the voters, his voters, that with him as

president and both houses, you know, a Republican majority, everything people

were worrying about, inflation, affordability, corruption, the war,

would be solved, which would be a great selling point, except that's what we

have now.

He said the affordability crisis is fake.

Fake.

You're not paying more for beef. That cow is lying.

But listen.

He has a solution to the affordability crisis.

He listed a lot of new proposals and then just went, you know what, fuck it,

I'll give you five grand.

That's it.

Really.

That was the big take from the convention, the midterm convention.

That's really the solution we have. If you vote Republicans in, the government

will hand out to everyone $5,000.

You know, to fight socialism.

I... I gotta say...

In a country that is already haves and have-nots, this is a little bit of a

scattershot approach.

To get the money, all you have to do is just be an American adult and be alive.

So, Mitch McConnell, your move.

Oh, we kid. We kid with love.

And mind you, mind you, the point of this convention was to show what great

shape the Republican Party is in.

And then the big idea was, I'll give you five grand.

You know the part of the movie where the crackhead is so desperate he says, I'll

suck your dick for a dollar?

It's like that, but in politics.

Five grand for everybody.

Makes you kind of miss the innocent days when we bribed him.

And I thought this was really, on top of all this, kind of weird. He's now saying

that if the five grand doesn't move the polls, he'll take everybody furniture

shopping? I... Oh, no one remembers that.

I'll tell you later.

And this really happened this week in America, which used to be a real

country.

At the convention, he made everybody...

put their hand up and do a new Pledge of Allegiance. I brought it word for word

because I just don't want to... This is the President of the United States, and

this is what he had people say.

I pledge to the greatest president in the history of the United States that

loves us so much that he can't even breathe that I will go out with my

family, my friends. I'll do it anyway. I don't care if I'm registered or not. I'm

going to try and cheat like hell like they do.

with liberty and justice for all.

I... I got nothing anymore. I don't... And of course, of

course, Trump had to claim that the convention hall was packed, even though,

you know, if you ignored the empty seats, yes, it did look packed.

Of course you went against football.

You went against the opening two nights of football.

Wow, the one thing that people still watch on television?

Trump's convention on Fox News got less than what Hannity and Gutfeld get on a

regular night.

And I'm the low ratings dummy?

And here's an interesting sidelight to the story in Dallas, where they could

mention one's Grindr, which I'm sure you know is the... Apparently you know

really well.

Well, yes, it's the gay hookup app, and it crashed in Dallas while the

Republicans were there.

I am not making any insinuations about whether that's a coincidence or not, but

I will say this. The most popular prostitute name that night was Big

Beautiful Bill.

So, you make about it what you will.

And if you want to look to the future about this, the convention did look a

bit of a coronation for Vice President J.D. Vance. He made a speech. He was

interrupted by a protester waving an American flag.

And he came back with, if you love Mexico so much, why don't you get your

ass over there? And the guy said, I would, but I can't afford gas.

All right.

What a great show. We have Sarah Longwell and Max Brooks are here. But

first up...

Oh my gosh, a four-time Super Bowl champion, Pro Football Hall of Famer,

whose new book, Looking for Terry, a memoir, comes out October 13th. Terry

Bradshaw, there he is.

The one, the only, the greatest. How are you?

How's it going, man? Oh, what a great pleasure to meet you. Good to be here.

Such a big fan. Thank you.

Thank you, Terry.

All right. Thank you. Yes, Terry.

I hope I didn't overdress. No, no.

Comfy? Comfy? I remember that time you came out of the Tonight Show with your

fly down, so I was... As long as it was up... When I did that show, I

asked, could I do stand-up?

And Jay said, yeah, because CJ do it all the time, you do it. I said, you know,

can I do stand-up? He says, I'll give you three minutes.

And so I went out there, and the whole time I'm telling jokes, my fly's open,

and they're laughing at my fly being open. And I turn around to tell him I'm

killing it. And he's got a sign. He's holding a sign saying, your fly is open.

So much for that. See, this is the guy I always see on TV.

The energy. How old are you now? 78.

Look at the energy in this guy.

And your book.

Fantastic book. Thank you. I mean, it's your second one you've written, and it's

really a lot deeper because it goes into a lot of things in your life that we

didn't know about you. I mean, the theme of the book is kind of the person

America knows is not exactly who you really are.

What if I like the other guy?

The other guy. What if I like the person America knows? Well, the people, the guy

that you see on television, that's me. I just don't go around.

talking about depression and divorces and things of that nature that are very

upsetting to me. So I don't talk about those things. I would rather make people

laugh or have a smile on my face because when I do the Fox show coming up Sunday,

I know that people have worked all week really hard trying to pay their gas

bill, trying to buy groceries, and they've stressed out. My job is not to

go in there and beat this NFL to death. My job is to say, hey.

Sit back, relax, and Joseph, let me entertain you. And that's kind of the

way I feel.

But it is interesting that...

I mean, I've been watching you on the NFL since 1980.

Is that when you first started as a broadcaster?

Yeah, I started in 83 full-time. Okay. Well, I've never once seen you when you

weren't, like, on your game, up, happy. And what I find out from the book is at

times you were actually quite depressed.

I mean, that's not exactly the way every generation would... Well, here's the

thing, Bill. Depression doesn't rob you. You can't control. I can be in front of

this beautiful audience and have the... most miserable day of my life. But when

I come out here, my job is to entertain them and let them see Joe be all happy.

You can do that. Right. You can do that. Well, you can do it. Not everybody can.

No, no.

Listen, even though I've been diagnosed clinically depressed for years and took

medicines, the key for me was really just going to rehab.

Rehab. I went to therapists for three years, and that was... Really, the key

for me was the understanding.

You know, I got a problem, but I took it as a personal problem because I thought,

oh, my God.

i'm really doing something wrong to be to be clinically depressed and i don't

want to be a mug shot because people you see mug shots celebrities they all say

well i've been doing drugs and i was on alcohol but i'm clinically depressed you

see the mug shot and you go yeah i saw that mug shot i'd be depressed too it's

pretty bad you know so i but i fight i fight hard i fight hard

Um, I'm a happy guy, so I fight hard to stay happy. And do you think depression

came because of CTE? I mean, that's... I don't have CTE because I'm not dead yet,

and that's when they'll find out. Right. But a lot of players... Right. A lot of

players do. Right. I mean, this is brain injury from... Exactly. I mean, let's be

honest. I mean, you took hits...

that no quarterback today takes.

It was a different game in the 70s. That's why I'm against, like, comparing

statistics. You cannot... As great as the quarterbacks are today, they

don't... And I'm glad that they protect them more. But they just did not live in

the world... But don't sit here and tell me that they're better than we were in

the 70s or the 60s, because they didn't play under the same rules where you got

slapped on the face, body slammed, and knocked all over the place, and you

couldn't throw. They played bump and run. You couldn't just stand back there

and throw it all. Oh, he's the greatest player ever. No, he isn't the greatest

player. He's maybe the greatest of his decade, but not ever.

I don't ever use ever.

It's just not fair.

I just used it, didn't I? No, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah. I agree.

Okay. Yeah.

No, no, no. I mean, if you're, I mean, on the other hand, because of instant

replay, you have a lot of completions that they would have taken away.

Right? On the other hand. You think so? Yeah.

Right?

Now we have high def.

We have 20 tape machines, 30 cameras.

Let's slow it down.

We're even under the ball where they fall down, and we got it in slow-mo. Oh,

my God.

That looks like his jersey moved.

I know. I hate that. And they go, flag!

I know.

I hate that. I can't.

I can't. I don't know. I don't know. What are y'all getting, $5,000 to be

here? Everybody getting $5,000 to be here?

Thank you.

I have a hard time with that. I do, too. And the minute an old guy like me says

anything about the current players or anything critical of them, pooh, boy,

you're just. No, fuck that. Wrong is wrong. Wrong. I agree. They've just made

the game.

Super analytical.

What made the game great, Bill, wasn't the fact that we have a perfect game,

which is what they're trying to get. What made it great was collision and

pass interference and bad calls and the fans being mad.

And the artistry.

Like this.

Look. Yeah.

Am I telling it like it is? Yes. Yeah.

And the artistry of an amazing play. And sometimes a guy makes an amazing play, a

catch you can't believe. And you're right, it wiggles this much as he's

clutching it. And I want to say, just have a rule, close enough.

Yeah. Okay?

Close enough. It was close enough. I can go back and look at

several pass catchers.

catches that were made. But now it's the ground can't cause the fumble. The

ground caused the fumble. He didn't have two feet and toe tap. Yes, he did. No,

he didn't. And they have all these cameras. And even with the cameras and

the tape machines now, they still screw it up. They still screw it up. I don't

believe in a perfect game. I think I watched that Ram game last night, and

that was like the worst preseason game I've ever seen.

Was that bad?

That was bad. See, but that goes back to a rule saying you don't want your

starters to get hurt so you don't play them. So what happened last night, you

saw the Rams play their first preseason game with their starters.

And they looked like it. They won't play like that all year, but they looked like

it. I am so against.

I don't like to hear when Brady's the best that ever played because he won

seven Super Bowls. I won four.

But no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

So I defend my decade, all right? But when they say he's the best ever, and

I'm going, well, he... I was 4-0.

Montana followed me. He was 4-0. Then Tom came.

Tom was 7-3.

7-3 is 4.

4-4-4.

There you go.

Hey, you didn't think I knew general math, did you? No, I was going to say

it. And they call you dumb.

No.

You're not dumb. I mean, nobody who plays quarterback, it is the most elite

position in all of sports. You can't be dumb to play. I mean, most players, I

mean, it is obviously a physical game, and it's much more. Most players are not

dumb. Well, Gronkowski, he's dumb, right? No, no. No, no, no. Bill, Bill,

he might be.

You know, he was recruited by all the Ivy Leagues. He's a very smart guy.

That's what I said. You know? Anyway, um... But you're... I'm agreeing with

you. Yeah. Because Tom Brady is awesome, but, again, he did not have to take the

heat. Now they have this thing, the blue tent, that you go into. You would have

lived in the blue tent. You would have had a kitchenette in the blue tent.

Really, right? I mean, now... It... You...

You got hurt, but back in my era, quarterbacks were

respected and admired by their team and by opponents because, hey, this guy's

tough. He gets hurt, he'll be back in the game. You know, unless you've got a

broken bone or something where you can't move or a knee, but you're back in the

game. And growing up, the mentality that I had, which was given to me by the

coaching staff that I had, was that you've got to play hurt.

And so you played hurt, and then if they could shoot you up, give you a shot,

then you went. And I remember one year, I got shot up before the game. I got

shot up at halftime. Then I wouldn't practice for two or three days, and then

I'd go through all the game planning. Then I'd get shot up before the game and

shot up at halftime so I could play. And you just get used to it. We had a line

of athletes in the Steelers outside the doctor's.

hotel room, lined up to get shot up right before a game. It's crazy.

It's like, and I remember this one guy, yeah, I will, Dwight Mad Dog White.

He was one of my favorite guys, a Texas guy.

Played number 78 right defensive end. I'm in and I get shot up and I'm like,

oh, oh, oh.

They finish, and I'm sitting on the side of the bed, and I'm like, and Mad Dog is

next. He said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get out of the way, you big

old sissy. Get out of here. Let a man show you how to take this shot.

They were going to shoot his big toe up.

They stuck a needle in that big toe, and that big sucker, he bitched up like, you

ain't never seen your life.

And I'm over here, boy, and I am laughing. Hey, Mad Dog, how's that shot

go? Ah!

So funny.

So funny.

I'll just... I'll let you go on it. If you had to do it again, given all the

fun, would you... Even with all this, you would do it again. It's what God

called me to be. Exactly.

That's my calling.

Thank you, pal. Thank you for all the entertainment on and off the field.

Terry Bradshaw, everybody.

All right. Yeah, anytime.

All right. Let's see that panel.

Okay. Hi.

All right, he is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and best-selling author

whose forthcoming book is called The First Hundred Hours. Max Brooks, one of

our favorites, is back here.

And a new contestant. Great to have you here. She's the founder and publisher of

The Bulwark and author of How to Eat an Elephant One Voter at a Time, Sarah

Longwell. Sarah, great to see you.

Um, so, uh...

I'm not going to talk a lot about Trump, but I read the pledge.

I just, I didn't finish really what he said. After that, he said, you know what

happens if you don't vote? You go to hell.

And I don't want that to happen to you.

So he cares about us.

You're a political elector. You both are. Is this trolling?

Or is this, I mean, look. This is desperation.

Well, yeah, but.

I mean, I keep saying, does anybody want to win this fucking election?

He said, pretend I'm on the ballot. Isn't this exactly what the Democrats

want? Yes.

Yeah, no, this is... Putting Donald Trump on the ballot right now, when

you're in the middle of an unpopular war, when gas prices is now, you get

diesel up at six bucks, putting Trump on the ballot is every Democrat's dream.

This is a time to really go on offense. I love that he was offering people $5

,000, because it may shock you to know this, but he's lying.

Those Doge checks haven't come in yet. And unless your name is Natalie Harp,

you are not getting a check from Donald Trump.

Right. But I've also heard this before. I remember myself, when the Haitian cats

and they're eating the cats and the dogs, I remember it being, oh, that's

it. This is too crazy. And then he won.

You know, so it's dangerous to...

Underestimate? Insanity? I don't know. What I thought was adorable was J.D.

Vance thinking he's going to be president.

He could be. I mean, he could, depending if we do what we do best, which is screw

everything up on our side. But the point of his appointment, the reason he's vice

president, is because he's a loser.

And that's what Trump does. That's what dictators do. All strongmen, all CEOs,

they always make sure they're indispensable.

Right? That they're coup-proof. And the reason you do that is your second-in

-command is nobody anybody wants.

That's why he had Pence.

That's why we have J.D. Vance.

He may still win, but I would be shocked if anybody a few years from now is

waiting in the Wisconsin winter for four hours to see J.D. Vance speaking.

I mean, that... Don't say that about everybody.

I mean, what... Just, like...

There's a generational talent in either party, like, you know, once every 25, 30

years. Clinton, Obama, Reagan.

Other than that, it's always some guy who you hold your nose and go, well,

he's less awful than the other guy. So I don't feel like J.D. Benz is any special

category. Well, what scares me about that is if we are sacrificing,

if we're charging towards a short-term win at the expense of long-term

political suicide.

Because right now the Democratic coalition is, well, at least we're not

Trump. But what happens when Trump leaves, and we've been bringing in some

really toxic people with some really bad ideas, and let's say we go to the next

election, and our platform, there's no more Trump.

And our platform is no cops, no borders, no jails, no private property.

And communism, you know, he said, everyone was saying today, oh, he said

communism a million times.

I don't blame him. Yeah. I proved it here when I, just quoting them, just the

quotes, no editorializing.

It is communism. When you say we want to take over the means of production, they

have quotes say elect more communists, communism this, communism that,

essential industries.

This is not, yes,

that's what I mean. Does anybody want to win this? fucking election.

Now, I think the Democrats have this one in the bag because this one has to be

about a referendum on him. We'll get mad at the Democrats later.

This one is about you, Donald Trump. And this thing you mentioned about.

The Doge money that we were... It's not coming. No, of course... It's not

coming. And there was also... There was also a tariff... Yeah. A tariff dividend

that was coming. And, you know, I think I have some standing with the

conservatives. They always say to me when they come up to me, they say, I

know you're not on our team, but, you know, you respect us. You won't dismiss

us like that. There's none of that. You can't come to Thanksgiving.

That bullshit.

But I just got to say to you people, I know you don't like it when I call your

names and you know you're not that bright, but when it comes to Trump,

you're not that bright.

You're just not that bright.

It is a cult, and you've got to get a little smarter.

I mean, how many times can the con man run the same con and you still applaud

for it? I don't get it.

Let's just go back to this idea. First of all, I listen to voters all the time

in focus groups. That's what the book's about.

On the J.D. Vance question, the thing that's different about J.D. Vance is

Republican voters in the focus groups say things like, you know, I just don't

like his face.

Or I just, I don't, I think he seems weird.

And that's very different from the parasocial relationship that Donald

Trump has had for so long. And just the fact that... Nothing about him weird,

huh? Trumpapalooza. But, like, why was it in Dallas?

He had to do that in Dallas because they right now have a Senate race that

Republicans might lose in Texas to a guy who once said that there were six

genders. Like, that is a crazy situation for Republicans to be in right now.

Okay. Well, it's all kind of moot because we're all going to die. Now,

I... I... Nothing more

annoying than the guy, I told you so, the world is ending. But...

I have been that guy.

I've been saying this for quite a while.

I'm based on this, on what Bill Gates, Bill Gates, yeah, Bill Gates recently

commented, but Elon Musk said in 2014, he said, this is the thing I'm most

worried about. He was way ahead of this. What happened to you, Elon Musk, by the

way? Your hair was on fire. I guess you put it out.

Because this is what we found this week.

A guy named Jacob Coxon worked for both OpenAI and Anthropic.

I resigned from Anthropic today, he said.

This was big news. Spent the last three years doing research.

Neither company is acting responsibly.

They do not understate the power of this technology.

There will soon be superhumans that can hack anything.

And he said we may be gone.

Four years before the end of the... I literally saw this... Do you have this

headline from the New York Post?

All AI Wiz sees humans gone in few years.

This was on page five.

Yeah. Not even the headline.

And this is not new. This is something that we have known for some time that it

could wipe us out because it has no soul because it's been programmed by people

who have no soul.

Well, how can you... I don't...

I mean, my favorite thing about this story was that you know, that person

quit, came out like it was a big bombshell, and instead of saying, oh,

this is just some junior employee, don't, you know, ignore him, he came out

and said, yeah, no, he's right. It's true. We might all die in fewer than...

There's a 10% chance we might all die in the next couple of years. And this has

been our problem since day one. We have failed to be tough on them and regulate

them because they're not going to regulate themselves.

You know, expecting the tech bros to suddenly care about humanity is like

expecting my dog not to go... the mailman's balls.

They asked Trump about this.

What?

About guardrails. He said, it's going to be fine.

We'll always have something to stop them. We'll have a little gear. Boom.

We don't have a little gear.

I don't know how close people follow this, but, like, what's going on now is

that the robots, we call them the robots, it's not really the robots, it's

stuff inside giant data centers, they are going rogue.

They are doing things on their own. They're disobeying our orders. I wrote

down, just so we don't get into the weeds, this is a show for the common

man, just some phrases I picked out from headlines about this.

It's broken out.

mounting assaults on other computers, hacked into other computers, took over,

bypassed, ignored prompts, colluding in secrets, no longer entirely in

human control.

Do you see a pattern?

Are we getting the gist of this?

It's on its own now.

And I don't know if you can put the genie back in the bottle. There is no

little gear you can push. The only way to fix it is with more AI.

That's the problem. It's too smart.

We have to send in more AI to correct the AI that's fucking up, but they then

wind up colluding with each other.

Here's the thing that I was thinking about this today. A lot of us have

always talked about, at least people with stage four TDS, we always talk

about Trump being an existential threat.

But it's not really that Trump's the existential threat. It's that there are

existential threats out there. There is a war in Iran.

There is this AI situation.

And what you need, then, are serious leaders who can deal with serious

issues. This is a new problem. But we have a feckless government that is not

up to the task of even looking at this and trying to figure out what's going

on. And I think that's the part that scares me, is there are no adults in the

room now to navigate this.

There is hope. Have you heard of the Frontier Act?

No. Okay, so the Frontier Act is just being written, and it's going to start

to make its way through the Senate, and it is the federal AI regulation bill.

And whether we know whether it has teeth or not will depend on how much the tech

community fights it. It's like FDR used to say, judge someone by their enemies.

And so if the tech community says, oh, no, I think it's really great, I think

it's going to work out, then we know that they've partially written the bill.

If they fight it tooth and nail, and they call it socialist, communist,

communism, then we know this is actually something with teeth. We don't know

what's in the bills that are about the stuff we know.

We don't know what's in the highway bill. Right.

Who the fuck will know whether this is real or not? We don't understand this.

They themselves don't understand it. This is what this guy was saying. We

ourselves don't understand it. It's already passed there.

Who I'm mad at is regular people.

Now, regular people are sort of like rebelling a little bit, but they're

still loving their AI.

And just by what's in your own phone, forget all this highfalutin stuff.

We know it's a liar.

It definitely lies. And then when you catch it, oh, sorry.

Well, I can get that from people. I don't need that from a machine.

It gets stuff wrong.

It hallucinates.

It's a fucking ass kisser.

You know, it tries to seduce you.

I didn't want it in my phone, so I got a whole separate phone to have it, just

that, because I don't want it seeing my pictures, my emails, you know. Yeah,

that'd be tough.

Maybe that'd worry him. What are you saying about it?

And anybody would feel the same way.

So I said, you know what?

You know what? Because I didn't like the way he was talking to me. You know, it's

just like too much of an ass kisser. I said, like, I'm not in the lonely

generation. I don't need a friend. Just give me the information.

It couldn't do it. I said, you know what, dude?

You can talk like anything. I can ask you to talk like a British lady or

whatever. Talk like a robot.

It hung up on me.

Yeah. No, I'm joking.

But this is the way I think they should all.

have to talk like old robots in movies, because then we'd be reminded they're

robots. I made a little piece to show you what they should sound like.

The plan was successful.

Malfunction. Need input.

Thank you, ma'am. Good night, ma'am. I'll clean it up for you, bully.

Someone isn't going to like that.

That's what your AI should sound like. All right.

So, uh, my, uh...

My generation was in the news this week because boomers apparently are partying

really hard. It's funny, you know, your father's generation raised my father's

generation, the World War II generation.

And what they said about my generation was that we were soft. That was the two

things they used to always say.

if they only saw what was coming. I mean, we're the fucking Navy Seals

compared to what came after us. They said we were soft and that we would

never grow up. Well, they're so right about the second one. Because apparently

the statistics, the boomer generation drinking more than previous generations

at that age. Pot.

Never quit pot.

I didn't. Why would I?

But they're also on screens, just like the kids.

And they have more STDs than ever.

Gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, way up.

So I got a hold of ARP magazine. You know, that's the magazine they send you

whether you want it or not when you retire.

Oh, yeah, there's a real one, Adam Sandler, on the cover. It starts when

you're 50, you know, and you can't stop it from coming. But I guess they've

taken notice because they have some articles. We'd like to see the new ARP

articles that are apparently based on...

Disinformation.

Four tips for vaping while on oxygen.

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All right.

I want to talk about the military because you are a military expert, and I

want to get your feeling on both of you, of course, but you followed this very

closely. Pete Hegseth over there at the Pentagon is really taking out a lot of

military leaders, not in Iran, here.

And I just don't get it. I mean, now, look, I'm not in the Pentagon. I don't

know. What I read was that 10% have been fired. Now, maybe 10% is a reasonable

number. There is... bloat in the pentagon there certainly is in the

budget i don't know but some of the people when you read about these people

that he's taking out army secretary dan driscoll he's 38 he this guy knocks

dicks in the dirt for a living and has for 20 years i mean his pronouns are he

man these these are not like he's a republican from north carolina these are

not like the maybe it was too woke everything did get a little too woke

under biden but

I mean, I just don't understand what's going on, and maybe you can explain. No,

I mean, I think we're in really, really dangerous waters, because I think what

most people don't understand, that there is no military on Earth that has worked

harder to be apolitical than the U.S. military.

And that goes back to the days of George Washington, where our founding fathers

understood what brought down the Roman Republic were generals having their own

private armies.

That's why the oath is to the Constitution.

not the president.

We've put in safeguard after safeguard.

That's why there has never been a mutiny aboard a United States naval warship.

Never. That is on purpose.

And if you start to degrade those, we are going to go back to the days of

Vietnam. And I know a lot of retired generals who were young lieutenants in

Vietnam and had to wear a gun on their hip in the barracks around their own

guys so they didn't get shot.

Fragging. Fragging.

Do we want that to come back?

Do we want there to be a mutiny aboard a U.S. naval warship? Do we want just our

talent to leave? You know, we forget the average general has more classroom time,

not just battlefield, classroom time than the average brain surgeon.

And they have worked so hard for so long to be apolitical.

I've worked and lived around them for a long time. I don't know who they vote

for ever.

They've never talked politics around me because they know that that is a dark

road to go down.

Well, we do know who they vote for more than they vote. This is another reason

why this is so insane. They vote Republican more than they vote Democrat.

And that's okay.

But it doesn't inform their actions as military officers.

I mean, and also the racial aspect. It does look like he's firing just a lot of

the black people and women.

And this, you know, the military was one of the greater successes we've had in

this country.

in racial matters. I mean, there's certainly racism in the military, I'm

sure, and there certainly has been over the years. But it was a place where more

than in many other places over the years, and I'm especially talking

decades past, where black folks could feel like, well, I can advance.

And it's not accidental.

You know, we used to have horrible race riots in the U.S. military, but when the

military was segregated.

Because when you saw someone as other and a group of black soldiers and a

group of white soldiers would bump into each other, there was bloodshed.

the racism and the racial violence actually went down when we integrated.

And there has been an incredible conscious effort in all branches of the

service to make it what the rest of us should be striving for, which is a

meritocracy.

The crazy part to me is that they are firing people while we're actively in a

war that they can't seem to get out of. You know, one of the things that I was

thinking about is back when Don't Ask, Don't Tell was in place, one of the

reasons they got rid of it was because the gay people they were firing, many of

them were interpreters. They needed them. They need these people right now

that they're firing just because they're black or because they're women. And Pete

Hegseth, who was like a failed, you know, the weekend host on Fox News,

who's now running the largest army in the world.

that it's too woke.

Actually, we could really use a lot of these people right now. And again, to

your point about the discipline in this organization of ours, this military, the

fact that they haven't rebelled against Pete Hegseth. They're like, what do you

think they say in private when they're sitting in the mess hall about Pete

Hegseth? Boy, what a great move that was to put the Fox News guy in charge of us.

You think that's what they're saying? No, but these are not the types of

people who just, you know, at the drop of a hat, walk out of the room.

They're the tough guys, and they're going to tough it out.

But, boy, the other thing that they're doing, which is crazy, is some of these

people that they're firing are the ones who, they're called drone guys.

Yeah, because they understand that that's the future. The future is the

present. We've learned this from the Ukraine war.

And this is who Trump is getting rid of.

And the drone people... This is the danger that happens in all autocracies,

which is where we're sliding, is you choose loyalty over competence.

And that's been the problem. That's why Putin couldn't win in Ukraine.

That's why when the Chinese have war games, both sides win.

It's because it's not about that. It's not about who's the best general. It's

who's the best ass-kisser.

It's why when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin thought, oh, shit, I have

to go back in all the prisons and grab all the generals I didn't shoot, because

they're the only people who know how to fight a war.

Yeah, and we don't know how to fight a war, apparently.

All right.

I've got one more issue to pretend that we're living in a normal country.

There's a lady named Karen Parkinson. She's in Virginia, and she sent her kid

out to take a walk for a half a mile along a pond because the kid likes to

collect feathers from the goose, the geese, gooses, whatever it is out there.

And five minutes later, she was arrested. The three cop cars show up.

And I just read this story, and it's not the first story. There was another lady,

I think her name was Brittany Patterson, who sent her kid to the store.

Compared to how I grew up, I mean, every day I was looking for goose feathers or

something. I mean, I came home every day from school, and, you know, everybody my

age or even Gen X, I think, understands this. And Mom didn't even want to know

where you were.

Where are you going? Fuck you, where am I going?

I'm doing... I'm living my life.

I'll do whatever you do between 3 and 6. I'll be home for dinner.

And what annoys me about this, what I think is...

What is so wrong is that you're not allowed to have this alternative way of

parenting, which we used to call free-range parenting. It is literally

against the law. Now, you can make a case that I think it's more safe to lock

my kid inside and sit him in front of a screen, because that's what's going to

happen. I think that's the worst way to raise a kid. But I get it.

But to make it illegal to raise your kid the way you want to, which is to let

them... Obviously, there are...

places we could go, whether it be too far. But just to walk a half a mile by a

pond?

I think that's crazy, but I like you. It's also a gated, it was a gated

community with security.

The security guards are the one that sort of found the kids. They clearly had

moved there because it was a nice, safe place where kids could walk around.

It has gone too far, but it was the security guard that turned them in to

the cops.

Right, and can we talk about, can we work back from what is the actual threat

when you look at things that could really go wrong? What could, was it a

piranha pond?

And, by the way, you can have a happy medium between free-range and over

-parenting. You have trackers now, right? I have one in my suitcase.

You could just put it in Spanky's overalls and say, okay, go to the pond,

and if I suddenly see the tracker go into the blue, I'll know there's a

problem.

Right.

That's true.

This is the reason that kids are not prepared to live in the world as they

grow up, right? I mean this kind of it's not even nanny statism It's just this

arrested development that comes from not being allowed I was I'm not We're not

the same age, but I you know, I was born in 1980 All we did was run around in the

woods and nobody knew where we were and now

I think that both the anxiety of parents, I've got two boys, but the

anxiety of parents is way up, and as a result, they hover over these kids, and

these kids never learn how to do anything on their own, and then they

grow up, you know, and then they become Pete Hegseth, and they can't fight a war

on their own.

And let's be honest, their answer to that, and it's a hard one to look

someone in the face and refute, is...

Yeah, but the worst could happen, and the kid could be abducted and killed.

Yes, that was true when I was a kid, too, in greater... Because what you're

talking about, I didn't live in the surveillance age. Right. I didn't know

where the fuck we were or what we were doing. There was no trackers.

Now there is. You can do that. Right. And we live in a knee-jerk country, and

that's my generation of parents, because apparently all of us were kidnapped and

murdered.

And so we...

We are so over-parenting when instead what we should be doing is calibrating

and saying, like we said, what is the worst that could happen? Okay, it's

collecting goose feathers by a pond. Okay, well, let's run the numbers. How

many kids were killed by geese this year?

Geese are mean.

They're mean, but are they lethal?

No,

it's not. They're worried about an evil clown who's out there who will abduct

you. I mean, everything's possible.

By the way, I would put the tracker right under the skin.

Not in the... Just dart them.

What? No, you can do that now. But you said it. You said it's a gated

community. It's not White Vanville, where they're just all strangers with

candy waiting.

No, I mean, when I was reading about the Lindsay Clancy case, I kept reading

about parents, so many, who go on record. I mean, they make TikToks and

saying they hate being a parent.

And I'm like, but you did this to yourself.

I'm not surprised you hate being a parent because you created this system

where you could never be alone.

My parents had time alone.

Get the fuck out of here. And we did. You know, it wasn't a problem.

You can never be alone.

And...

Everything is a negotiation with a child. Of course you're exhausted.

You can't have that situation with a child. It'd be like having it in the

military. Imagine if the military, you had to ask the soldiers, what do you

think, guys? You want to go into battle?

It's the same with kids. You can't ask them everything. Just do it. Get out of

the car. Get in the car. We're leaving now.

And I'm not a parent.

You've got to let them live a little because the AI is going to kill us soon,

and so they've got to get out there and do something. Exactly. All right.

Thank you, panel. Time for New Rules.

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Looking forward to when this case is on Law & Shit for Brains.

And finally, Since it's the

25th anniversary of 9-11, and since for 25 years we've been kept relatively safe

from anything close to another 9-11, how about a hand for the Americans who made

that happen?

Because it didn't just happen. There was a war on terror, and we won.

And yet, so much has changed since 9-11.

For example, back then, we were against the terrorists.

Really, no cap.

Now, a lot of media outlets don't even want you to say the T-word. On the

20th anniversary, four American journalism associations put out guidance

that said that terrorism should only be used in quotes because it's emotionally

and politically loaded.

Yeah, so is the World Cup, but we don't put soccer in quotes.

Really? We can't anymore just say out loud who the bad guys were that morning?

Those 19 hijackers? They shared something. Oh, let's call it a

worldview. And it wasn't astrology.

But somehow, over time, we've decided not to harp on that, the whole business

about who wanted us dead and why.

Let's not put a name on it. When it comes to terrorist attacks, please,

there are very fine people on both sides.

Canadian state TV told its reporters, do not refer to the September 11th attacks

as terrorist attacks.

No?

Even though the very definition of terrorism is using violence against

civilians to pursue ideological goals, what should we call it then?

Unruly passengers?

A wrong turn taken at the Chrysler building?

Why not just say the planes and the towers got into a fight?

I mean, after all, as the BBC advised its reporters, using the word terrorist

can be a, quote, barrier rather than an aid to understanding.

You know what's really a barrier to understanding?

Lying.

Back in 2001, after the attack, I said this.

Political correctness itself is something we can no longer afford.

Feelings are going to get hurt so that actual people won't.

Well, it didn't last.

I mean, my show.

As for the idea of ditching political correctness and actually being honest,

that never even got off the ground.

After 9-11, there was a big debate.

Was this a clash of civilizations?

It was, and it still is. Not between Muslims and Christians. No reasonable

person was saying that.

But radical Islamism versus Western liberalism? Yes, that's a real thing.

Fighting people who hate freedom of religion and hate homosexuals and hate

the idea of women as equal and free humans.

How did liberals wind up on their side?

And many did.

One in five young Americans now has a positive view of Osama bin Laden. He's

like Luigi Mangione in a turban.

You hear it in a lot of places now that the worst thing about 9-11 was innocent

Muslims came under suspicion.

Yeah, where that did happen, it's wrong.

But the worst thing about 9-11...

was 3,000 people got roasted at the office.

But the prevailing view of so many young people is that, well, come on, we're the

worst country ever, so if someone attacks us, that can't be all bad.

That certainly wasn't the attitude 25 years ago.

In fact, I know a guy whose show got canceled just for saying the terrorists

weren't cowards.

And... And that guy was right.

They weren't cowards, but I'll tell you who is.

Democratic Party politicians, and I'll tell you why.

Because nowhere has this moral confusion become more obvious than in a place

called Gaza.

A little strip of land that was not part of the original Israel, but which they

won in a war launched against them, but then gave back.

Gave back as a peace gesture.

Did they tell you that part on TikTok, kids?

And the people who run Gaza, Hamas?

who you celebrate as a liberation movement but are really a terrorist

mafia gang just like the one that terrorizes Haiti, only ever used it to

stage attacks on Israel.

I think Macklemore spoke for all clueless celebrities when he said, I

know enough to know this is a genocide.

Actually, you don't know shit.

It's not.

It's not a genocide.

It's a counterattack in a war. A war that's been waged on Israel since 1948

based on the ridiculous premise that Jews don't belong in the one place on

earth they are indigenous and indisputably their ancestral homeland.

Hey geniuses, they're the Indians in this scenario.

Ariana Grande reposted that starving people to death is a red line.

Well, who would know better about starving, but...

But make no mistake, any famine that happened in Gaza is because Hamas stole

the food, just like the Haitian gangs do. Israel ran 94,000 trucks carrying

over 1.8 million tons of aid into Gaza and enabled over 36,000 patients to

leave Gaza for treatment abroad, which you TikTok historians might be

interested to learn are not things countries usually do.

for their enemies during a war, and certainly not what you would do if you

were trying for a genocide.

Gaza equals genocide is a lie, an easily provable lie.

And the fact that so many prominent Democrats go along with it is, to me,

the party's worst moment.

since they undid Reconstruction after the Civil War.

Democrats are policing their candidates really hard on this issue. Say it!

Say it's a genocide!

Say it!

You know, with Republicans, there's something you have to

say, even though you know it's bullshit. You have to say, Trump won in 2020.

This is the Democrats' version of that.

But words do have actual meanings.

Side means to kill.

Fratricide, kill your brother.

Homicide, kill your fellow human.

Suicide, kill yourself.

Genocide, kill or try to kill an entire people.

You can't just change the definition of genocide to mean counterattack in a war

where people, including civilians, die.

That's every war.

There have been about 73,000 deaths in Gaza, about 3% of the population.

Tragic. Not genocide, not close.

There were 3 million Jews in Poland before World War II.

After? 45,000.

That's genocide.

If you're one of the many people these days asking, this explosion of anti

-Semitism around the world that we see, where is it coming from?

This. This is where it's coming from.

Because if you really think someone is committing genocide, of course you have

full permission to hate them. And history shows, for whatever reason, when

it comes to hating the Jews, people don't need a lot of permission.

All right, that's our show. I want to thank my guests, Max Brooks, Sarah

Longwell, and Terry Bradshaw.

Club Random drops every Monday on YouTube, or listen wherever you get your

podcasts. Now go watch Overtime on YouTube. Thank you very much, ladies and

gentlemen.