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♪♪
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-When the unthinkable happens
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between a 10-year-old
boy and his father...
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-He didn't realize
his finger was on the trigger.
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It went off.
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-The impact on a child,
it was very traumatic.
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-It had to be an accident.
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But there were things
that didn't make sense.
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-My dad was my world.
He was my superhero.
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Not a day goes by
that I don't miss my dad.
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-...the case haunts
the community
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until nine years later,
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new information
changes everything.
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-She told me that he told her
that it wasn't an accident.
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-The way my dad died,
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it wasn't the way
everyone thought it was.
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-A heartbreaking allegation
makes police question
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who the real killer is.
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-I'm sitting there thinking,
this is crazy.
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-You're talking to a teenager
about stuff
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that happened
when they were little.
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-Do you believe this?
Do you not?
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[ Phone ringing ]
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-Moments after
the harrowing call,
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Defiance County emergency
services raced to the scene,
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knowing there's a good chance
the victim is
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a friend or neighbor
in this small community.
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-They just told me that
it was the Breininger residence.
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And as soon
as they said Breininger,
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I knew right away
where I was going.
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Living in Defiance County all my
life, you get to know everybody.
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I knew Robert Breininger,
owner of the property,
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knew him growing up
through school.
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He lived out there with
his wife, Judith, and Corey,
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his 10-year-old boy
who made the 911 call.
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Every case is personal.
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But this was even more.
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I arrived at
the Breininger residence,
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and that's when
Corey opens the door
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and he's just devastated.
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He grabs my hand and he started
to take me to the back
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where his dad was,
and I stopped him.
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And I walked back there,
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and as soon as I seen Robert,
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I knew there was nothing
could be done.
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It was clear that there had been
a bullet through his head.
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I knew the devastation
that I'd seen.
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He was gone.
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My mind was shifted
to many things.
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Was this suicide?
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Had Corey shot his dad
intentionally,
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or is this an accident?
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-Shocked by his friend's death
and unsure of the circumstances,
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Detective Vandemark heads back
out to his only known witness,
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the victim's son.
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-I take Corey outside.
He was crying.
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I started talking quietly to him
to tell me what had happened.
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-Corey's story was
that he and his dad
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were going to go hunting,
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and his dad was teaching him
about gun safety.
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-Corey said he was
holding the gun.
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He didn't realize
his finger was on the trigger.
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It went off and the result was
his dad being shot in the head.
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-The impact on a child
to an accident like that.
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It was very traumatic.
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-While Corey
is handed over to EMTs,
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Detective Vandemark goes
back inside to assess the scene.
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-Robert laid facing
up in the bed.
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He was covered with sheets.
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There was a large pooling
of blood around his head
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and onto the floor.
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The wound was just above
the ear on his right side.
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-There's hunting pamphlets
that are tucked under
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the deceased's arm on the bed.
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-The gun was a shotgun, a 410.
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A lot of children use
the 410 shotgun
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versus the 12 gauges
and the 20.
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There are more small and light.
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It was laying on
the left side of the bed,
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where you would have
expected it to be,
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based on where
the wound entered.
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-At first glance,
the crime scene matches
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Corey's brief description
of what happened,
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but Detective Vandemark notices
some elements don't make sense.
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-Corey told me that
his father was teaching him
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how to shoot guns,
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but why was he in bed
covered with sheets?
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And the other thing I noticed
was he had earplugs in his ears.
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That just didn't make sense.
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-After finishing
his examination of the body,
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Detective Vandemark
notices Robert's wife, Judith,
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who has been Corey's stepmother
for five years, arrive on scene.
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-When Corey had seen Judith,
he became real quiet.
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I don't know if it was
because he was going to
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have to tell his mom there
was this horrible accident,
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and that's when I whisper
in her ear that he's gone.
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He's gone.
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And a tear came into her eye.
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-Judith,
appearing to be in shock,
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is able to tell Detective
Vandemark some of the events
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that led up to Robert's death.
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-Judith told us Robert worked
third shift from 10:00 at night
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until 5:00, 6:00 in the morning.
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He would normally sleep
during the day,
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but Judith and Robert
had been running errands
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until about noon that day.
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And then when Corey
got home from school,
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she went over to her mother's
house, closing up a garage sale.
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Corey didn't go.
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He was going to stay
there with Dad.
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So Robert hadn't had
much sleep that day at all.
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Judith said that
the reason he wore earplugs
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is to help him sleep
during the day.
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And she also told us she
didn't know why the gun was out.
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She makes the comment,
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it was normally way up
high in their closet.
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And then she reaches
out to Corey
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and says
"Daddy's going to be okay."
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-34-year-old
Robert Breininger was born
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and raised in Defiance County.
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-When I first met Robert, we
were teenagers playing baseball.
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Robert was a down-to-earth
homebody type guy.
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Pleasant, easy to talk to.
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Just a great person
all around to be around.
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-Robert was an avid
hunter-fisherman.
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That was his pastime,
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was to go hunting
with his buddies
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or to take Corey fishing.
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-His son was his priority.
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He was a loving
and nurturing father.
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-Robert had been
previously married.
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The only child that
they shared was Corey...
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and she left.
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So Robert was raising
that child alone
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until Judith came into his life.
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-In 1998,
when Corey is 4 years old,
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Robert meets and falls in love
with Judith Foudy,
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who lives in their
small community.
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-They hit it off pretty good.
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She could be personable,
pleasant to be around.
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-I didn't know Judith well,
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but they married quite quickly
and she was bound
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and determined
to be Corey's mom,
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and she adopted
Corey right away.
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Their married life seemed
to be the typical married life.
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There wasn't flags going off
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that it was a bad marriage
or anything like that.
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Robert was a very good writer.
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He worked at a steel mill.
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He was an ironworker.
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-In the late '80s,
I worked with Robert.
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He was a hard worker,
very knowledgeable person.
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Robert was so smart.
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I couldn't imagine him
having a firearm of any sort
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in the house being loaded,
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let alone being something
that Corey could get.
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-This 10-year-old boy
is devastated.
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It had to be an accident.
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However, there were things
I seen that didn't make sense.
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-Just hours after
the shooting,
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as law enforcement
finishes up at the scene,
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Detective Vandemark goes to get
a more detailed statement
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from Corey about what happened.
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-During our second
interview with Corey,
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Judith would not let
me talk to him alone,
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and I wasn't going to
argue that fact that
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she's the mom.
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He was devastated.
He was crying.
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I asked questions about the gun.
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"Did he load the gun?"
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"No, he didn't load the gun.
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I didn't realize there
was a bullet in there."
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-Corey said this was supposed
to be a hunting lesson.
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Corey and his dad
were looking at
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hunting magazines and pamphlets
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when he and his dad
were exchanging the gun
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when it went off.
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-I asked why his dad
was still laying down in bed.
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He didn't know,
is what he told me at the time,
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and I asked him,
"Were you mad at your dad?
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"Were you getting along
with your dad?"
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And he indicated
through the tears that
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"No, I wasn't mad at him."
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At some point,
Judith just said,
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"Enough's enough,"
and I felt that
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it had reached that point, too.
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-The next morning,
the coroner determines
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Robert Breininger's
manner of death.
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-The coroner felt there was
no reason for an autopsy,
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and he gave the manner of death
as being an accidental shooting.
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As to the investigation
at that point, it got closed.
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It was clear Corey was saying
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that he shot him
accidentally in the head.
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-The focus at that time was
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a 10 year old had
a terrible accident.
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He's traumatized.
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We don't want to make
this any worse.
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-The news of Robert Breininger's
violent death
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deeply affects
the tight-knit community.
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-Everyone felt bad
for their family.
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Corey was 10,
and he was home by himself.
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I can't imagine
how scary that was for him.
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-To hear that there was
a death as a result
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of a gun caught
people by surprise,
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because we know how
to handle guns out here.
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There were questions,
but I think people said,
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"Let's move on because this
child has suffered enough."
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-Nine years later,
in March of 2012,
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the case that haunted the tiny
community comes back to life.
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-In March 2012,
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I received a call
from Sheriff Westry
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asking me to come to his office.
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He just asked me
if I knew Lauren Beck.
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I said, "Yes.
Teacher at Prairie View."
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And he says,
"She told me that Corey told her
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that it wasn't an accident."
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And as soon as he said
Corey and no accident,
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I knew exactly what
he was talking about.
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-She was the blonde
bombshell charmer.
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-Most of the people
were terrified of her.
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-He needed a mom,
and she wasn't a mother to him.
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♪♪
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-Nine years after the shooting
death of Robert Breininger
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was ruled accidental,
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his son Corey
is about to tell a new story
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that may change everything
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police thought
they knew about the case.
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-We went to
Paulding High School
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to do an interview of Corey
to find out what had happened.
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♪♪
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-As soon as I walk
in the principal's office,
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I saw
Lieutenant Cliff Vandemark.
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I'll never forget he just had
this look on his face of...
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"It's been a long time."
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-I said, "Corey,
it was my understanding
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that you talked to somebody
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and shared that you had
shot your dad intentionally."
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-I said the way
my dad died was not an accident.
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It wasn't the way
everyone thought it was.
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-My mind was blown.
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I asked him, you know,
"Why would you do that?"
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Corey tells me,
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"I shot my dad
because Judith wanted me to."
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And he goes through
the whole story.
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-November 3, 2003, I remember
getting off the bus and my mom,
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Judith, was actually waiting
there, and the first thing
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she said when she saw me was,
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"This is the day."
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And, uh,
I right away knew and...
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Everything changed.
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-Corey tells me
Judith walked him to the house
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and went in the back door.
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She had the gun ready for him.
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Already loaded,
sitting, like, in a corner.
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And then she told him,
"Okay, I'm going to leave.
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You do this now."
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-After Judith had left,
I opened the room
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where my dad was sleeping
and I saw him in there.
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Judith had mentioned she had put
some hunting magazines in there.
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I took the gun in there as well.
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There was a train going by,
and right after it went by,
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I had decided this --
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this must be the time
it's supposed to happen.
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And, uh...
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I raised the gun
and pulled the trigger,
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and all it did was click.
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in my mind,
I was actually excited.
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I thought for sure either
the gun's broken or something,
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and I'm not going to have
to go through with this.
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And I decided, "All right,
just to prove to her
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I'm going to do it
one more time,
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then she'll understand that
it wasn't supposed to happen."
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So I raised the gun,
and I was so certain
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that the gun was not going
to go off, and it went off.
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That was it.
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I was 10 years old.
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-Corey tells me that Judith
abused him over the years.
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She would hit him, strike him.
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It was going on right up
to the day he shoots his dad.
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-About a week
before it actually happened,
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Judith had told me that my dad
was dying from a brain tumor.
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She had told me that
it was actually his idea of me
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to shoot him so that we could
get the life insurance policy,
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and we'd all be taken care of.
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But I didn't want to do it.
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She would say
that I was letting my dad down,
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that he was going to be upset
if I didn't do it.
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And, you know,
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eventually it became more
threats of if you don't do it,
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then I'm going to do it to you.
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And I believed her.
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I just -- I felt so helpless.
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After my dad passed,
things got somewhat better.
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However, the abuse persisted.
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As I got older, I started
to realize more and more
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how wrong things were.
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I was at the point
where I wanted to tell someone.
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I'd kept all of it
so deeply buried.
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I had to let it out.
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So when I was 18 and going into
my senior year of high school,
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I actually confided in one of my
best friends about my home life
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and they said, "You're not
going back there ever,"
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and convinced me to come
to his house.
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-Corey says he ceased
all contact with Judith
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at that point, even though
she pleaded with him to stay.
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-She wanted me to come home,
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but I knew I was
never coming back home.
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-I'm sitting here thinking,
this is crazy
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that it wasn't an accident.
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I said, "Corey,
I'll be honest with you.
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We've got to dig into it
further."
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-Wanting to believe Corey
but unsure of how to proceed,
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Detective Vandemark reaches
out to the prosecutor.
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-We immediately started
to talk about,
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how are we
going to figure this out?
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-Fortunately for us,
we were involved in a task force
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for abuse against children
with the FBI.
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This whole case had to have
fresh eyes on it.
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We brought up the 911, call,
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all the photos up,
and every interview
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that had been
taken at the time --
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we looked at them with the FBI.
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-When I heard that 911 call
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you hear a young 10 year old,
hysterical.
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I shot my dad to.
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When you see
those crime scene photos,
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they seem very calm.
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We're talking about hunting,
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but you're laying in bed
with the sheet
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perfectly pulled up with you,
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and you still have
earplugs in.
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It looked like Robert
was sleeping peacefully
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when Corey shot his dad.
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There's pamphlets there
laid methodically on the bed.
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The crime scene seemed staged,
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as opposed to something
that happened accidentally.
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-After reviewing
the evidence from 2003,
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00:17:56,993 --> 00:17:58,787
it's clear to investigators
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that this was
not an accidental shooting.
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00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:03,291
The question now is
whether Corey's version
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00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:05,752
of events holds up.
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00:18:05,835 --> 00:18:09,089
-We have now a 19 year old
who stating
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00:18:09,214 --> 00:18:10,924
that when he was ten years old,
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his stepmom had made
him shoot his dad.
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There's a degree of
"Do you believe this?
Do you not?
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Has he manifested
some mental health issues
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00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,812
or did she really make
him kill him?
353
00:18:23,895 --> 00:18:26,314
-You're talking to
a teenager about stuff
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00:18:26,398 --> 00:18:29,109
that happened when they were,
you know, little.
355
00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:32,654
How do we add credibility
to their story?
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00:18:34,197 --> 00:18:37,117
-We need to establish
what that abuse looked like
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and walk through everything
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that built up to the day
of the shooting.
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And so we made arrangements
360
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to have Corey come in
for a forensic interview.
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00:18:59,264 --> 00:19:01,558
-Corey had moved out
of her home,
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had no interaction with Judith.
363
00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:08,023
But Corey was still fearful of
Judith, even in that interview.
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-As a little kid, I didn't
even really know what a mom was.
365
00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:26,708
I was between two and three
years old when my dad
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and my birth mother
decided to split up.
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00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:34,716
And then it was just my dad,
and that's really all I needed.
368
00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,551
My dad was kind of my world.
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00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:38,887
He was kind of my superhero.
370
00:19:40,805 --> 00:19:42,766
When I first met Judith,
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00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:45,518
she just seemed really nice
at the beginning.
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They both seemed pretty happy.
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But when my dad
had married Judith,
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a lot of things changed.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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-In the summer of 2012,
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00:20:09,250 --> 00:20:11,086
the FBI conducts
a forensic interview of Corey
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to determine if his version
of events is credible.
380
00:20:53,128 --> 00:20:56,881
-I don't think my dad
ever really fully knew
381
00:20:56,923 --> 00:20:59,718
what Judith was doing.
382
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:01,928
He didn't want to discipline me,
383
00:21:02,012 --> 00:21:05,765
and she volunteered and he said,
"Yeah, go ahead."
384
00:21:05,849 --> 00:21:07,267
I think she convinced him
385
00:21:07,308 --> 00:21:10,311
that I was just
a troubled little kid,
386
00:21:10,353 --> 00:21:12,647
and he just went with it.
387
00:21:14,566 --> 00:21:17,152
-It's so horrific
that it's difficult to believe,
388
00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:20,321
but Corey's story definitely
seems plausible at that time.
389
00:21:29,664 --> 00:21:34,252
-Judith was, I guess,
fairly smart in a twisted way,
390
00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:37,964
so I was always sent to school
in pants and long shirts
391
00:21:38,089 --> 00:21:41,760
to cover the marks
and bruises on my body.
392
00:22:06,242 --> 00:22:08,244
-That's hard
to wrap your brain around
393
00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:10,538
that another human being
would do that to anyone,
394
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:12,165
let alone a child.
395
00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:13,958
But it was significant
to talk about
396
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,002
because that left a scar
397
00:22:16,086 --> 00:22:19,255
and that can help corroborate
Corey's statements
398
00:22:19,297 --> 00:22:20,632
of this abuse.
399
00:22:49,452 --> 00:22:51,079
-As we did the interview,
400
00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:55,458
we realized that this wasn't
simply an abuse case,
401
00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:59,004
but there was elements
of what we considered torture.
402
00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:01,881
-It was very methodical.
403
00:23:02,007 --> 00:23:04,843
Corey, he was under her thumb
404
00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,345
very firmly at that time
in his life.
405
00:23:08,847 --> 00:23:12,600
-I had fully convinced myself
that this was normal,
406
00:23:12,684 --> 00:23:16,980
and this must just be how
every family and little kid is.
407
00:23:17,022 --> 00:23:20,275
And my little mind knew
that none of this was right.
408
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,820
Yet I had no way of
doing anything about it.
409
00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,406
So I just I had to endure it.
410
00:23:28,283 --> 00:23:31,369
-Corey tells investigators that
one week before the shooting,
411
00:23:31,494 --> 00:23:33,329
after four years of abuse,
412
00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:37,417
Judith begins to push him
to kill his father.
413
00:23:50,055 --> 00:23:53,641
-I really thought
that perhaps my dad was dying
414
00:23:53,725 --> 00:23:55,101
from a brain tumor.
415
00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:56,936
And I really think that's
416
00:23:56,978 --> 00:24:00,899
how I convinced myself
to make it okay.
417
00:24:15,455 --> 00:24:17,665
-Judith orchestrated
that by telling Corey,
418
00:24:17,791 --> 00:24:20,377
"Here's where
the guns going to be,
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00:24:20,418 --> 00:24:24,005
after you shoot your dad...
420
00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:30,470
...drop the gun, call 911
421
00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:32,972
and say the gun
accidentally went off."
422
00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:37,352
-She had already washed
his brain enough by then.
423
00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:41,189
The only thought was
staying in his role,
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00:24:41,272 --> 00:24:44,192
that he had been set up
and had been programmed for.
425
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:50,824
-The magnitude of how much he
endured prior to 10 years old,
426
00:24:50,907 --> 00:24:53,785
when this happened,
and now all the years after,
427
00:24:53,827 --> 00:24:55,370
were just so stunning.
428
00:25:10,218 --> 00:25:13,263
-From what Corey had told me,
he felt guilty,
429
00:25:13,346 --> 00:25:16,057
that he didn't realize
sooner what he had done,
430
00:25:16,099 --> 00:25:18,309
but he was a child
and he didn't realize
431
00:25:18,393 --> 00:25:20,311
how wrong she was
and all the stuff
432
00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:24,149
that she did to break him down.
433
00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:27,736
He needed a mom,
and she wasn't a mother to him.
434
00:25:37,037 --> 00:25:38,538
-It's difficult
for people to understand
435
00:25:38,663 --> 00:25:40,331
how does a 10-year-old shoot
their father
436
00:25:40,373 --> 00:25:41,916
at the direction of somebody?
437
00:25:42,042 --> 00:25:44,627
But here we are with all
of these elements --
438
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:48,798
severe physical abuse,
psychological terror.
439
00:25:48,923 --> 00:25:51,760
The interview changed everything
for what we thought this was,
440
00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:55,096
from accident to this
is a homicide
441
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:59,267
at the direction
of his stepmother.
442
00:25:59,351 --> 00:26:01,936
-Now that investigators have
Corey's full version of events,
443
00:26:02,062 --> 00:26:04,856
they know that that is
only one side of the story.
444
00:26:04,898 --> 00:26:07,067
-We had to prove that.
445
00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:09,986
We got to not only
have Corey say it, which he did,
446
00:26:10,028 --> 00:26:12,822
but we got to --
we got to prove it
447
00:26:12,864 --> 00:26:16,618
in every other way we can
to charge Judith with murder.
448
00:26:26,294 --> 00:26:31,257
♪♪
449
00:26:32,509 --> 00:26:34,844
-Investigators now believe
that Corey Breininger
450
00:26:34,928 --> 00:26:36,763
was coerced
into killing his father,
451
00:26:36,805 --> 00:26:39,391
Robert Breininger,
by his stepmother, Judith,
452
00:26:39,557 --> 00:26:41,518
after years of abuse.
453
00:26:41,643 --> 00:26:44,646
-First of all, we needed
to change the manner of death.
454
00:26:44,813 --> 00:26:47,273
The coroner spent time
reviewing the evidence
455
00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:49,484
that we had collected in 2003.
456
00:26:49,651 --> 00:26:53,571
Along with the confession
from Corey,
457
00:26:53,613 --> 00:26:59,536
he changed the manner of death
from accidental to homicide.
458
00:26:59,703 --> 00:27:02,414
-The objective then became,
let's see what else
459
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:08,211
is out there to correlate
Corey's description of his life.
460
00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:11,339
-Cautiously, so as not to alert
Judith to their investigation,
461
00:27:11,381 --> 00:27:13,717
police begin
to interview potential witnesses
462
00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:16,011
from the area that may be
able to verify pieces
463
00:27:16,052 --> 00:27:17,971
of Corey's story.
464
00:27:18,013 --> 00:27:21,307
-Corey's teachers
from '98 to 2003 had seen
465
00:27:21,391 --> 00:27:25,645
that he was always wearing
long-sleeve shirts.
466
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,898
He was hiding something,
hiding bruises, marks,
467
00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:31,651
grab marks,
and one of his teachers
468
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:35,113
actually seen marks on him,
469
00:27:35,196 --> 00:27:38,450
but nobody reported it
at that time.
470
00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:40,744
A lot of the teachers,
471
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:42,871
they said he was such a sad boy
and they felt sorry for Corey,
472
00:27:42,954 --> 00:27:45,040
but they didn't realize why.
473
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,419
We interviewed the neighbors.
474
00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:51,880
They start telling us more.
475
00:27:52,047 --> 00:27:54,799
What they seen was
that Judith was taking him
476
00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:58,219
further away from his dad,
477
00:27:58,261 --> 00:28:01,765
and Corey became more quiet,
withdrawn
478
00:28:01,806 --> 00:28:03,975
over the years.
479
00:28:04,059 --> 00:28:05,727
-My friends lived
across the street
480
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:07,020
from the Breininger family.
481
00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:09,230
They had had issues with them.
482
00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:11,733
Judith had allegedly
slashed their tires,
483
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,903
tried to kill their pets
that they had.
484
00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:17,072
-She was always feuding
with the neighbors.
485
00:28:17,113 --> 00:28:18,948
Most of the people
that witnessed this
486
00:28:19,032 --> 00:28:20,116
were terrified of her.
487
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,202
They said she was very dominant.
488
00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:27,123
-Judith had ex-boyfriends
in the nine years
489
00:28:27,207 --> 00:28:29,000
after Robert's death.
490
00:28:29,084 --> 00:28:31,586
They were interviewed
and they did corroborate
491
00:28:31,628 --> 00:28:35,215
that there was abuse
that they saw happening.
492
00:28:35,256 --> 00:28:37,676
One of the ex-boyfriends
characterized it
493
00:28:37,842 --> 00:28:40,887
as a modern-day Cinderella,
but that was his perception,
494
00:28:40,929 --> 00:28:42,681
even being in that home
with them
495
00:28:42,722 --> 00:28:45,308
for a very short amount of time.
496
00:28:45,475 --> 00:28:48,061
-Investigators also speak
to Judith's ex-husband,
497
00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,772
who was a friend
of Robert Breininger.
498
00:28:50,814 --> 00:28:54,776
-I was married to Judith
from 1991 to 1995.
499
00:28:54,859 --> 00:28:57,612
When I first had met Judith,
500
00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:01,408
she was the blonde
bombshell charmer.
501
00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:02,992
We hit it off pretty good.
502
00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:05,954
But the day that we got married,
503
00:29:05,995 --> 00:29:08,498
it was like a switch
had been flipped.
504
00:29:08,623 --> 00:29:11,626
She said, "Your family's dead.
Your friends are dead.
505
00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:14,796
The only thing
that matters now is me."
506
00:29:14,963 --> 00:29:18,133
She turned in more
to a controlling,
507
00:29:18,216 --> 00:29:22,262
psychotic, unstable person.
508
00:29:22,303 --> 00:29:25,682
I had been hit.
I had been kicked.
509
00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:27,058
My nerves were shot.
510
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,435
By the time
our marriage was done,
511
00:29:28,476 --> 00:29:33,565
I was an
entirely different person.
512
00:29:33,732 --> 00:29:39,529
When I heard that she and Robert
got married, it shocked me.
513
00:29:39,571 --> 00:29:43,867
Because knowing her and
knowing what I did of Robert,
514
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:49,164
that he was a very nice person,
515
00:29:49,289 --> 00:29:54,669
I knew it was going to be bad
for him.
516
00:29:54,711 --> 00:29:56,963
-As Defiance County police
continue to interview people
517
00:29:57,047 --> 00:29:59,215
in the community,
518
00:29:59,341 --> 00:30:02,761
experts are brought in to assess
Corey's allegations of abuse.
519
00:30:02,802 --> 00:30:05,013
-We had Corey examined.
520
00:30:05,055 --> 00:30:06,848
One of the psychological things
we learned
521
00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:09,809
was that Corey had
a resilient gene,
522
00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:13,563
and that's what enabled him
to survive.
523
00:30:13,688 --> 00:30:18,276
-We also had Corey physically
examined by a medical doctor,
524
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,571
who was also an expert
in this area,
525
00:30:21,696 --> 00:30:25,241
because we didn't have
actual medical records.
526
00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:31,623
-Corey said Judith actually cut
him with a knife on the penis.
527
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:36,753
-The doctor finds that nine
years later, this scar is there.
528
00:30:36,795 --> 00:30:38,505
-That was something
529
00:30:38,588 --> 00:30:41,883
that told them what
this woman was capable of.
530
00:30:41,925 --> 00:30:44,928
-As evidence supporting
Corey's story grows,
531
00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:47,597
police look into what Judith's
possible motive was
532
00:30:47,722 --> 00:30:50,517
to have her husband,
Robert Breininger, killed.
533
00:30:50,558 --> 00:30:53,311
-Corey says
that Judith told him
534
00:30:53,395 --> 00:30:55,980
that his dad had
terminal brain cancer,
535
00:30:56,022 --> 00:31:00,777
and so that it was actually
his father's idea to kill him
536
00:31:00,819 --> 00:31:05,156
so that they would be
able to get the insurance money.
537
00:31:05,198 --> 00:31:07,701
-We looked into that and found
there was no medical history
538
00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:09,661
that Robert had a brain tumor.
539
00:31:09,828 --> 00:31:11,913
If somebody had been diagnosed
with something like that,
540
00:31:11,955 --> 00:31:14,666
there's going to be
a paper record, right?
541
00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:16,292
-That all was a lie.
542
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:18,294
-Investigators look into
543
00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,131
whether Judith received a payout
from Robert's life insurance,
544
00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:23,883
which could be her true motive.
545
00:31:23,967 --> 00:31:25,969
-What we found out
was within 12 hours
546
00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:28,263
of the death of Robert,
547
00:31:28,346 --> 00:31:29,889
Judith was already filling out
all the insurance papers,
548
00:31:30,056 --> 00:31:31,599
wanting the insurance
immediately.
549
00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:35,979
She ended up
with $300,000 to $400,000.
550
00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:39,774
The sole beneficiary was Judith.
551
00:31:39,816 --> 00:31:42,360
-This seems like that's what her
motive was.
552
00:31:45,071 --> 00:31:47,449
-She made him into a murderer
553
00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:52,912
to collect money
on an insurance claim.
554
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:58,001
-And what kind of a mother,
a wife,
555
00:31:58,084 --> 00:32:01,838
a human being...
556
00:32:01,921 --> 00:32:03,965
could be that heartless?
557
00:32:04,007 --> 00:32:08,094
♪♪
558
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:10,638
-With a strong
but circumstantial case,
559
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,099
investigators enlist
Corey's help to try
560
00:32:13,224 --> 00:32:15,977
to get Judith to admit
her guilt.
561
00:32:16,019 --> 00:32:17,812
-The police set up
a recorded phone call
562
00:32:17,854 --> 00:32:20,774
where I was trying
to call Judith to see
563
00:32:20,857 --> 00:32:24,444
if she would admit guilt.
564
00:32:24,569 --> 00:32:26,654
-I wanted to get her
on the phone
565
00:32:26,738 --> 00:32:28,782
to see what her reaction was
when Corey called her.
566
00:32:28,865 --> 00:32:31,242
We all would love
to have that confession.
567
00:32:31,284 --> 00:32:33,036
-This is the first time
568
00:32:33,078 --> 00:32:35,872
he's confronting her
about what she made him do.
569
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:38,833
[ Line ringing ]
570
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,358
♪♪
571
00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:07,237
-Investigators asked Corey
to make a recorded phone call
572
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,905
to Judith in the hopes
573
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:11,533
that she will
inadvertently confess her guilt.
574
00:33:11,658 --> 00:33:16,079
Corey has not seen or spoken
to his abuser in over a year.
575
00:33:16,121 --> 00:33:18,790
-I was pretty scared
calling her and talking to her.
576
00:33:18,873 --> 00:33:20,959
It was something
I did not want to do,
577
00:33:21,001 --> 00:33:23,128
but I knew it needed to be done.
578
00:33:44,858 --> 00:33:47,402
-As his stepmother,
if you're not a threat to him,
579
00:33:47,444 --> 00:33:50,321
why are you saying
there's cameras there?
580
00:33:50,363 --> 00:33:51,906
-She was trying to let him know,
581
00:33:52,032 --> 00:33:54,743
"You'll be safe
if you're with me."
582
00:33:54,826 --> 00:33:55,785
She figured she could control
him better
583
00:33:55,869 --> 00:33:58,079
if they were in person.
584
00:34:14,012 --> 00:34:17,724
She acted like she didn't
know what he was talking about.
585
00:34:17,807 --> 00:34:19,225
-That is when I knew that
586
00:34:19,267 --> 00:34:22,437
she knew she was
probably being recorded.
587
00:34:22,479 --> 00:34:26,441
-So after this call,
things kicked up a notch.
588
00:34:28,276 --> 00:34:32,113
-There's strong evidence
that Corey was abused for years.
589
00:34:32,197 --> 00:34:35,075
There's strong evidence that
Judith was this domineering,
590
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,369
controlling person.
591
00:34:37,452 --> 00:34:39,579
There was a lot
of inherent credibility
592
00:34:39,704 --> 00:34:44,292
that helped to corroborate
the story from Corey.
593
00:34:44,334 --> 00:34:46,920
We felt confident
that Judith was responsible
594
00:34:46,961 --> 00:34:49,589
for the death
of Robert Breininger.
595
00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:51,633
-On March 8, 2013,
596
00:34:51,716 --> 00:34:53,885
police arrest Judith Hawkey
at her home.
597
00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:55,595
At the same time,
598
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,472
they execute a search warrant
of the residence.
599
00:34:59,307 --> 00:35:01,476
-When we hit the house,
we find things
600
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:06,272
that help support
Corey's story.
601
00:35:06,356 --> 00:35:08,024
They were, like, vignettes,
602
00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:11,820
videos she took of Corey
when he was a child.
603
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,538
"Corey, why are you doing that?"
604
00:35:21,621 --> 00:35:23,456
"I don't know."
605
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:26,209
Because she had told him.
That's why.
606
00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:28,086
She had manipulated him.
607
00:35:28,128 --> 00:35:31,006
It was all about that control.
608
00:35:31,047 --> 00:35:33,591
-Judith would record me
tearing up the house
609
00:35:33,717 --> 00:35:35,510
or breaking toys.
610
00:35:35,552 --> 00:35:38,555
She was recording me
just to make my dad think
611
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,515
that there was something
wrong with me.
612
00:35:44,436 --> 00:35:46,730
-Watching those videotapes
broke my heart.
613
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:49,733
There's abuse that's
inflicting pain purposefully,
614
00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:52,152
but there's also
the psychological side of it
615
00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:56,281
causing shame, humiliation,
embarrassment.
616
00:35:56,406 --> 00:35:58,908
-It was all about working up
to the day
617
00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:00,744
that she was gonna have
him pull the trigger
618
00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:03,204
and take his dad's life.
619
00:36:03,288 --> 00:36:06,166
All of that
brought more credibility
620
00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:09,169
to what Corey told us
was going on.
621
00:36:11,087 --> 00:36:13,048
-At the sheriff's office,
622
00:36:13,131 --> 00:36:15,800
police interviewed Judith,
hoping she'll confess.
623
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:12,399
-Judith was being evasive.
624
00:37:12,524 --> 00:37:15,694
She thought that she would --
She would beat this.
625
00:37:15,777 --> 00:37:19,322
But that also goes hand in hand
with the abuse she did to him.
626
00:37:19,406 --> 00:37:21,074
Is that "I'm never gonna
get caught."
627
00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:42,929
-After refusing to speak
further with investigators,
628
00:37:43,013 --> 00:37:45,223
Judith is formally charged.
629
00:37:45,348 --> 00:37:47,308
-Judith is charged
with aggravated homicide
630
00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:49,394
of Robert Breininger.
631
00:37:49,477 --> 00:37:52,647
And there was several charges
of child abuse
632
00:37:52,731 --> 00:37:55,275
and child endangering.
633
00:37:55,316 --> 00:37:58,028
-We felt
that she was a dangerous person
634
00:37:58,111 --> 00:38:00,155
because of what she did.
635
00:38:00,196 --> 00:38:02,240
-So she was put on
a large bond to retain her.
636
00:38:02,365 --> 00:38:03,283
It was $3 million.
637
00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:07,912
♪♪
638
00:38:07,996 --> 00:38:12,584
-Cliff called me and told me
that Judith was arrested.
639
00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:18,089
That was probably one of
the happiest moments in my life.
640
00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:20,717
But it was just a brief moment.
641
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,012
I was so unprepared
for what was to come.
642
00:38:31,644 --> 00:38:37,150
♪♪
643
00:38:37,776 --> 00:38:39,778
-On October 28, 2013,
644
00:38:39,861 --> 00:38:45,116
the trial of Judith Hawkey
begins in Defiance County.
645
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,454
-We had to get the jury
not to see a 20-year-old male,
646
00:38:49,496 --> 00:38:50,955
but to see a 10-year-old child.
647
00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:53,583
-When I testified,
648
00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:58,755
I actually didn't look at Judith
a single time.
649
00:38:58,838 --> 00:39:02,467
I was actually still
pretty scared of her.
650
00:39:04,928 --> 00:39:07,639
But I just wanted justice
for my dad,
651
00:39:07,722 --> 00:39:10,058
and I wanted her
to be held accountable.
652
00:39:13,061 --> 00:39:15,522
-Judith,
seeing her in that courtroom,
653
00:39:15,605 --> 00:39:18,024
there just was no emotion.
654
00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:21,069
She just seemed very,
very cold to me.
655
00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:24,280
I think she probably thought
that she would --
656
00:39:24,322 --> 00:39:26,074
She would beat this.
657
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,451
-After 10 days of trial,
658
00:39:28,535 --> 00:39:31,830
the case is put
into the hands of the jury.
659
00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:33,581
-So after hearing
all the evidence,
660
00:39:33,665 --> 00:39:36,084
the jury came back...
661
00:39:36,167 --> 00:39:38,878
and found Judith guilty.
662
00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:42,674
-She was convicted
663
00:39:42,757 --> 00:39:46,428
on aggravated homicide
and child abuse.
664
00:39:46,469 --> 00:39:48,763
-She was sentenced to life
without parole,
665
00:39:48,847 --> 00:39:51,725
and I think that was
well deserved.
666
00:39:51,766 --> 00:39:54,519
-The vindication
that Corey got that day,
667
00:39:54,561 --> 00:39:58,314
it brought just a little bit of
peace, a little bit of closure,
668
00:39:58,398 --> 00:40:00,942
because the truth was
finally out.
669
00:40:01,026 --> 00:40:03,319
-For one of the first times
in my life,
670
00:40:03,361 --> 00:40:05,530
I felt safe
671
00:40:05,613 --> 00:40:10,785
and I knew she wouldn't ever be
able to do anything to me again.
672
00:40:10,952 --> 00:40:15,206
That feeling didn't last
very long, but just a few years.
673
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:20,337
-Nearly six years later,
in April of 2019,
674
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:24,215
Judith Hawkey is awarded
a new trial on appeal.
675
00:40:24,257 --> 00:40:26,217
-Retrying a case is difficult.
676
00:40:26,259 --> 00:40:28,386
We looked at the pros and cons
677
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:33,099
and elected to have her plead
out to involuntary manslaughter.
678
00:40:33,224 --> 00:40:37,645
She was sentenced to what
ended up being a 10-year term.
679
00:40:40,482 --> 00:40:43,485
-When I was told that,
I felt betrayed.
680
00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:45,236
I never had a scenario
in my mind
681
00:40:45,362 --> 00:40:49,407
where it would ever
be overturned or retried.
682
00:40:49,491 --> 00:40:53,578
-Judith was eventually
released from prison in 2023.
683
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:55,747
She now lives in northwest Ohio.
684
00:40:58,249 --> 00:41:00,669
-In all that,
she only served 10 years.
685
00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:02,587
10 years.
686
00:41:02,671 --> 00:41:04,923
And Corey got a sentence
of life.
687
00:41:08,093 --> 00:41:09,719
-The day that
she was gonna be released,
688
00:41:09,803 --> 00:41:12,472
Corey told me,
"I'm gonna be moving away."
689
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,599
And to me, I was like,
"How heartbreaking.
690
00:41:14,683 --> 00:41:17,852
He's leaving his life here
with his friends and family
691
00:41:17,894 --> 00:41:22,732
because she's out
and living as a free person
692
00:41:22,816 --> 00:41:24,693
and she shouldn't be."
693
00:41:24,818 --> 00:41:26,194
It just seems so unfair.
694
00:41:26,236 --> 00:41:30,907
♪♪
695
00:41:31,032 --> 00:41:33,868
-In the beginning,
it was very scary.
696
00:41:33,952 --> 00:41:36,454
Just constantly looking over
my shoulder,
697
00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:38,123
but I've gotten used to knowing
698
00:41:38,206 --> 00:41:40,625
that I can't ever let
my guard down.
699
00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:43,461
But to my knowledge, she has
not tried to reach out to me.
700
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:52,595
♪♪
701
00:41:52,721 --> 00:41:56,099
Not a day goes by
that I don't miss my dad.
702
00:41:56,224 --> 00:41:58,143
Every single day
before I fall asleep,
703
00:41:58,226 --> 00:42:01,146
I say something to him
after my prayer
704
00:42:01,229 --> 00:42:05,233
and that'll -- that'll
probably never change.
705
00:42:06,985 --> 00:42:09,946
I have learned
to forgive myself.
706
00:42:10,030 --> 00:42:12,073
Ever so much,
707
00:42:12,115 --> 00:42:16,161
I still hold myself
somewhat accountable
708
00:42:16,327 --> 00:42:19,956
for not being able
to tell her no.
709
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,751
But that's why I continue
to share my story,
710
00:42:22,876 --> 00:42:24,836
in the hopes
that maybe someone else
711
00:42:24,919 --> 00:42:29,841
who's going through it can find
the strength to come forward.
712
00:42:29,924 --> 00:42:33,053
I just wanted to be known that
no matter how badly you think
713
00:42:33,136 --> 00:42:37,140
you can't get out of it...
714
00:42:37,223 --> 00:42:38,266
you can.
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