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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:07,716 -A gentle caretaker of horses is found dead 2 00:00:08,717 --> 00:00:11,177 in her dorm room at a popular racetrack. 3 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:13,346 -She was hanging. 4 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:15,849 -There was blood everywhere. 5 00:00:15,890 --> 00:00:17,684 -And her wrists were also slashed. 6 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:21,604 We weren't sure if it was gonna be a homicide or suicide. 7 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:23,690 -That obviously raised a lot of questions. 8 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,942 -It makes no sense. 9 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:28,570 -Three years later, hundreds of miles away, 10 00:00:28,653 --> 00:00:30,739 another horse groom is found dead. 11 00:00:30,822 --> 00:00:32,782 -This was a crime scene. 12 00:00:32,907 --> 00:00:35,035 -She said that he was gonna get her. 13 00:00:35,076 --> 00:00:37,287 -Could these two cases be connected? 14 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:39,998 -This guy left a trail and got away with a lot. 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,334 I don't believe in coincidences. 16 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:43,918 -We were both shocked. 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,670 -They're both females, they're both white, 18 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:47,589 and they both work in the track. 19 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:51,092 -It's a race against the clock as detectives hunt for a killer. 20 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:53,428 -He liked women that he could intimidate. 21 00:00:53,511 --> 00:00:56,014 -I felt as though I let Pam down. 22 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,059 -We all made a mistake. -All hell broke loose. 23 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:00,477 This guy, he's a predator. 24 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:02,771 You can't let him be on the street. 25 00:01:02,812 --> 00:01:04,939 -And there's no doubt he's going to rape 26 00:01:05,023 --> 00:01:06,858 or hurt another woman. 27 00:01:09,361 --> 00:01:15,784 ♪♪ 28 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:22,957 ♪♪ 29 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:31,049 ♪♪ 30 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:33,635 -On a humid summer evening, a little after midnight... 31 00:01:33,718 --> 00:01:36,680 ♪♪ 32 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:40,475 ...a frantic 911 call sends firefighters to Vernon Downs, 33 00:01:40,558 --> 00:01:43,770 a popular racetrack located in Upstate New York. 34 00:01:43,812 --> 00:01:46,481 -Vernon Downs is a harness racing track. 35 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:50,193 It has dormitories in the back where the grooms are housed, 36 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:53,279 and the grooms are individuals who take care of the horses. 37 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:57,742 -A fire has broken out in one of the dormitories. 38 00:01:57,826 --> 00:02:00,412 Firefighters quickly get the blaze under control, 39 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:03,957 but once the smoke clears, they make a horrifying discovery. 40 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:09,379 -There was a dead female that was in the dormitories. 41 00:02:09,462 --> 00:02:10,964 She was hanging. 42 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:13,717 ♪♪ 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,302 There was an extension cord around her neck. 44 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:19,639 -And there was blood on that. 45 00:02:20,724 --> 00:02:23,018 -Detectives notice that the extension cord 46 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:25,520 is tied to a shelf above the victim's head, 47 00:02:25,603 --> 00:02:28,982 and they speculate that this could be a possible suicide. 48 00:02:29,107 --> 00:02:32,694 -And there was a vodka bottle next to her body. 49 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:36,197 There was blood on her everywhere. 50 00:02:36,281 --> 00:02:38,033 ♪♪ 51 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:39,868 -Her throat was cut. 52 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:42,328 There was a electric knife by her on the floor. 53 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:44,039 You could see the blood from her throat. 54 00:02:44,122 --> 00:02:46,207 And her wrists were also slashed. 55 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:48,543 -The scene was gruesome. 56 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:50,837 -I have never seen anything like that. 57 00:02:50,962 --> 00:02:53,631 I don't think any of us saw anything that violent 58 00:02:53,715 --> 00:02:56,468 like that before. 59 00:02:56,509 --> 00:03:00,430 -It looked, to all appearances, like a self-inflicted death. 60 00:03:00,472 --> 00:03:02,349 -There are papers surrounding the victim's feet 61 00:03:02,432 --> 00:03:04,726 that did not burn, and investigators are hopeful 62 00:03:04,809 --> 00:03:06,478 that there might be a suicide note 63 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:08,438 to explain what happened here. 64 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:09,898 -But there was no note 65 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:11,524 indicating she had killed herself. 66 00:03:11,566 --> 00:03:14,652 No suicide note was found at the scene. 67 00:03:14,736 --> 00:03:17,530 -Detectives learn that the victim was a horse groom. 68 00:03:17,614 --> 00:03:19,199 Grooms work in the stables 69 00:03:19,282 --> 00:03:21,659 and take care of the horses at the racetracks. 70 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:23,453 Coworkers identify the victim 71 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,997 as 39-year-old Leslie Dickenson. 72 00:03:26,998 --> 00:03:28,416 -I knew Leslie Dickenson 73 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,419 because she worked at Vernon Downs with me 74 00:03:31,503 --> 00:03:33,171 as a groom. 75 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,423 She was very quiet, very petite. 76 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,343 Loved animals. 77 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:40,470 Grooming is very physical. 78 00:03:40,553 --> 00:03:42,305 You can get very dirty. 79 00:03:42,389 --> 00:03:44,641 You get wet because you're bathing horses. 80 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:48,019 You got to clean their stalls, clean their water buckets. 81 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:51,481 Leslie was very fragile. She wasn't very strong. 82 00:03:51,564 --> 00:03:53,775 So I would help her with her water buckets. 83 00:03:53,858 --> 00:03:55,443 Just a very nice lady. 84 00:03:55,485 --> 00:03:57,904 ♪♪ 85 00:03:57,987 --> 00:04:00,281 I was absolutely shocked. 86 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:02,117 I've never been in that situation 87 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,868 where a groom has died. 88 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:06,830 And it was...hard to believe. 89 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:11,001 -To those who knew her, Leslie was kind and compassionate, 90 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:14,462 making her violent end difficult to comprehend. 91 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:17,549 As investigators examine the fire she apparently perished in, 92 00:04:17,716 --> 00:04:19,884 they find it only more confusing. 93 00:04:19,968 --> 00:04:23,722 -How the fire started looked a little bit suspicious. 94 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:25,682 Candles were lit under something 95 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:29,227 so that they would burn and catch fire. 96 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:31,604 -It was very difficult to tell what happened. 97 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:33,606 -Was the vodka poured around 98 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:36,693 and lit to start the place on fire? 99 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:38,528 -As they take a closer look at the victim, 100 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:41,281 several details stand out that make investigators wonder 101 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:44,617 if their first impression of suicide may have been wrong. 102 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:46,453 -When the body was hanging, 103 00:04:46,536 --> 00:04:49,789 the pants were unbuttoned and the zipper was down. 104 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:54,002 -That obviously raised a lot of questions 105 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:57,380 in our mind as to what exactly happened. 106 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:00,383 Generally, when you see women who commit suicide, 107 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:02,218 it's usually with pills. 108 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:05,096 They don't usually scar or mark up their body. 109 00:05:06,181 --> 00:05:09,225 Honestly, I've been to many, many, many scenes 110 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:11,603 where people were dead. 111 00:05:11,686 --> 00:05:14,606 I've never seen a person have this many methods 112 00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:16,191 for killing themself, 113 00:05:16,232 --> 00:05:18,068 which, in her case, was slitting the wrist 114 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:21,571 and hanging herself up then burning the room. 115 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:25,200 We knew we still had a lot of investigating to do. 116 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:27,911 -As the forensics team continues to process 117 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:29,371 the crime scene for evidence, 118 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:31,873 detectives zero in on the grooms. 119 00:05:31,915 --> 00:05:34,292 -We interviewed 20 or more of the grooms. 120 00:05:34,376 --> 00:05:37,379 Everybody that may have seen Leslie that day, 121 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:38,421 may have been with her. 122 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:40,298 Trying to get a timeline. 123 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:41,675 -According to the grooms, 124 00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:43,176 Leslie finished work around noon, 125 00:05:43,259 --> 00:05:45,178 and this Friday was payday. 126 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:47,430 -The grooms travel from different track to track, 127 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:49,265 but they're a close-knit group. 128 00:05:49,349 --> 00:05:53,770 They know each other, and they get along usually very well. 129 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:56,147 -They're there 24/7 to take care of the horses. 130 00:05:56,231 --> 00:05:58,400 And very often, you know, when they get done working, 131 00:05:58,483 --> 00:06:00,318 they'll have a drink. 132 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,779 -Coworkers tell police that Leslie joined them for drinks 133 00:06:02,862 --> 00:06:04,906 from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. 134 00:06:04,989 --> 00:06:06,825 -Leslie had been sitting on a picnic table 135 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:09,661 outside of her dormitory room. 136 00:06:09,703 --> 00:06:11,579 They just had a couple drinks. 137 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,998 That was the last anybody had seen of her. 138 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:16,251 -Around midnight, smoke fills the dormitory 139 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:18,712 where Leslie lives... 140 00:06:18,795 --> 00:06:21,548 alerting grooms of a fire. 141 00:06:21,673 --> 00:06:23,633 -There was one witness who said he smelled smoke 142 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:26,636 before anybody else smelled smoke. 143 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,722 Another groom went up to the guard station 144 00:06:28,763 --> 00:06:31,391 and told the guard there was a fire. 145 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:33,351 -Investigators continue to press grooms 146 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,020 for information about Leslie. 147 00:06:35,103 --> 00:06:36,730 They want to know if she was having trouble 148 00:06:36,813 --> 00:06:38,440 with anyone at the track. 149 00:06:38,606 --> 00:06:41,526 -Anybody we asked said she's a nice person, you know, 150 00:06:41,609 --> 00:06:44,529 kept to herself a lot, but everybody liked her. 151 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:48,033 There was absolutely no bad things at all said about her. 152 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:50,660 -She was well liked by other grooms, never bothered anybody. 153 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:53,830 Took care of her horses and did what she had to do. 154 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:55,457 -While Leslie's body is transported 155 00:06:55,582 --> 00:06:57,000 to the coroner's office, 156 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:58,960 detectives are faced with the difficult task 157 00:06:59,044 --> 00:07:02,672 of notifying Leslie's family of the tragic news. 158 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:05,842 -It was pretty shocking to them. 159 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:07,761 -She had a very good relationship with her family. 160 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:10,388 She seemed to be very close with her sister. 161 00:07:10,513 --> 00:07:12,515 -They said she was an outgoing person, 162 00:07:12,557 --> 00:07:15,810 said she loved horses, loved the job she was at. 163 00:07:15,894 --> 00:07:17,520 -When digging into her background, 164 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:19,939 detectives uncover a secret that Leslie Dickenson 165 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:21,900 kept from her friends at the track, 166 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:23,276 and this troubling information 167 00:07:23,318 --> 00:07:25,820 sheds new light on the investigation. 168 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:29,532 -She had a previous suicide attempt. 169 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:32,744 -Leslie's family confides that she struggled as a teenager, 170 00:07:32,869 --> 00:07:34,496 even attempting to take her own life with 171 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:37,832 over-the-counter medication two decades earlier. 172 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:40,460 But according to her family, those dark days were behind her. 173 00:07:40,502 --> 00:07:42,253 She'd found happiness and was dating 174 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:44,923 a fellow groom from the track. 175 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:46,675 Investigators, however, discover 176 00:07:46,716 --> 00:07:49,886 that the pair had recently parted ways. 177 00:07:49,928 --> 00:07:51,930 -People said they didn't get along, they had argued. 178 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:54,641 And then other people said they were together. 179 00:07:54,683 --> 00:07:56,393 -Investigators wonder if the breakup 180 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,645 may have triggered Leslie's mental-health issues, 181 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,856 sending her spiraling into a depression. 182 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:04,192 So they turn their attention back to the grooms, 183 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:07,404 looking for clues about Leslie's state of mind. 184 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:09,406 -The first question investigators asked -- 185 00:08:09,531 --> 00:08:11,825 "Did you notice that she was depressed?" 186 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:13,535 -She was actually doing pretty good. 187 00:08:13,576 --> 00:08:16,663 She had just bought herself some new clothes. 188 00:08:16,746 --> 00:08:18,498 She seemed upbeat. 189 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:20,875 -And no one seemed to have any idea 190 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:22,919 that she was unhappy with life. 191 00:08:23,044 --> 00:08:25,213 And everybody said no. She seemed fine. 192 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:27,674 There was nothing out of the ordinary with her. 193 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:29,926 -She was quiet, but I would have never 194 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:33,722 guessed her to commit suicide, by no means. 195 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:35,598 -Looking for answers, investigators turn 196 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,393 to Leslie's ex-boyfriend, but they're surprised to learn 197 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:40,353 that he relocated to another track 198 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:44,899 several hundred miles away just two days before the fire. 199 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:46,943 -Boyfriend had shipped out with his horse 200 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:49,487 and the owner to a different track. 201 00:08:49,571 --> 00:08:53,241 -Could Leslie's boyfriend have used his departure as an alibi? 202 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:54,826 -We weren't sure if it was gonna be 203 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:56,411 a homicide or suicide, 204 00:08:56,494 --> 00:08:58,246 but the fact that Leslie's boyfriend had left town 205 00:08:58,329 --> 00:09:01,249 is very suspicious, so we had to track him down. 206 00:09:01,332 --> 00:09:04,127 ♪♪ 207 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:06,129 -The door was locked from the inside. 208 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:09,674 It was pretty apparent this was a crime scene. 209 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:12,260 -I don't believe in coincidences. 210 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:14,846 And there are similarities between what happened 211 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:16,431 to Leslie and Pamela. 212 00:09:29,611 --> 00:09:31,404 -After learning alarming information, 213 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:34,491 detectives zero in on Leslie's ex-boyfriend 214 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,284 as a possible suspect, 215 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,161 and they hunt him down at a racetrack 216 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:39,996 several hundred miles away. 217 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:42,040 -We did interview him. 218 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:45,293 We learned it was a very good relationship between them, 219 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,837 and he said they were getting along fine. 220 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:49,923 -Leslie's ex-boyfriend tells detectives he was working 221 00:09:50,048 --> 00:09:52,092 on the night Leslie was killed... 222 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:54,636 300 miles away from Vernon Downs, 223 00:09:54,719 --> 00:09:57,931 and several eyewitnesses confirm his story. 224 00:09:57,972 --> 00:10:01,768 -He wasn't there. He wasn't a suspect in it. 225 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:04,187 -If Leslie's ex-boyfriend is not their suspect, 226 00:10:04,229 --> 00:10:05,939 detectives wonder if it's possible 227 00:10:06,022 --> 00:10:08,191 that someone on the horse circuit killed Leslie 228 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:11,486 and slipped away before detectives could find them. 229 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:14,114 -The lifestyle of a groom is very seasonal. 230 00:10:14,197 --> 00:10:15,949 Constantly moving around. 231 00:10:16,032 --> 00:10:17,701 But they are kind of a small community 232 00:10:17,742 --> 00:10:19,202 because they get to know each other 233 00:10:19,244 --> 00:10:21,204 at all of the different tracks. 234 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:24,874 And people knew all the circumstances of this case. 235 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:26,584 This was a very big deal. 236 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:30,255 But there was no real prime suspect. 237 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:32,132 -At this point, to try to determine 238 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:35,802 if this was a homicide was difficult to do 239 00:10:35,844 --> 00:10:39,973 because we didn't really have anything glaring at us. 240 00:10:40,015 --> 00:10:42,267 -With no clear leads, detectives are hopeful 241 00:10:42,308 --> 00:10:44,310 that the autopsy report will help them 242 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:46,312 figure out what happened to her. 243 00:10:46,354 --> 00:10:48,606 -The autopsy determined that this was a suicide. 244 00:10:48,732 --> 00:10:50,817 They labeled it a suicide. 245 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:54,279 -The cause of death was the strangulation 246 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,115 as a result of the cord and the hanging. 247 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,910 -The autopsy report states death by asphyxia and hanging. 248 00:11:00,952 --> 00:11:03,913 This, coupled with Leslie's history of mental-health issues, 249 00:11:03,955 --> 00:11:05,874 leads to the coroner's conclusion 250 00:11:05,957 --> 00:11:09,669 that Leslie did indeed go to great lengths to kill herself. 251 00:11:09,794 --> 00:11:11,379 -They thought she cut her throat 252 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,549 and wrapped the cord around and then hung herself 253 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:17,969 and then cut her wrist as she was hanging. 254 00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:20,055 -Upon learning the devastating news, 255 00:11:20,138 --> 00:11:22,599 Leslie's family struggles to say goodbye, 256 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:25,268 and they lay her to rest in a baby-blue coffin 257 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:27,645 that matches her eyes. 258 00:11:27,729 --> 00:11:29,564 For Detective Lisi and his team, 259 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:33,276 the Leslie Dickenson case is closed. 260 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,737 Then, three years later, 261 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:38,948 1,500 miles south of Vernon Downs, 262 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:42,660 police are dispatched to the Pompano Beach Racetrack 263 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:45,455 in response to a suspicious 911 call. 264 00:11:45,497 --> 00:11:47,499 -On February 20, 1990, 265 00:11:47,582 --> 00:11:49,417 the Pompano Beach Police Department 266 00:11:49,501 --> 00:11:53,380 received a call for a woman that was thought to be sick. 267 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:55,131 She didn't report to work, 268 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:58,218 so her employer went to the room to check on her. 269 00:11:59,678 --> 00:12:02,097 The door was locked from the inside. 270 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:05,850 He pushed the door open a little bit. 271 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,729 And he could see the victim... 272 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:13,066 ...on the floor in the room. 273 00:12:13,149 --> 00:12:16,236 And she was unresponsive. 274 00:12:16,361 --> 00:12:18,446 -When we arrived, we discovered 275 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:20,281 that it was a female victim 276 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,867 who was an employee at the harness track. 277 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:24,786 She was a groom. 278 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:27,038 -Attempts to revive the victim are unsuccessful, 279 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,249 and she's declared dead at the scene. 280 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:30,834 The victim's boss identifies her 281 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:32,919 as 32-year-old Pamela Albertson, 282 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:35,005 a groom from Blanchester, Ohio. 283 00:12:35,171 --> 00:12:36,965 ♪♪ 284 00:12:37,048 --> 00:12:40,135 -She's in the room by herself and a door that's locked. 285 00:12:40,218 --> 00:12:43,304 We looked at her windows, and it gave enough way 286 00:12:43,346 --> 00:12:46,558 for a person to slide through the window. 287 00:12:46,683 --> 00:12:48,852 -The room was very sloppy. 288 00:12:48,893 --> 00:12:50,854 Knocked-over soda on the floor. 289 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:52,689 Things were just thrown about. 290 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:54,941 Pam was laying right inside the doorway. 291 00:12:55,025 --> 00:12:57,986 It appears as though there may have been some sense of a struggle. 292 00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:02,032 -So we knew then that somebody had been in there 293 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:05,744 and locked the door from the inside and went out the window. 294 00:13:07,412 --> 00:13:10,248 -Her clothes were somewhat on the floor. 295 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:13,543 It appeared as though somebody put her pants back on her. 296 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:15,003 She had no underpants on. 297 00:13:15,045 --> 00:13:16,796 Her pants were pulled up, 298 00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:19,507 but they weren't secure in any way, unzipped. 299 00:13:21,051 --> 00:13:22,552 -Pamela's body had bruises 300 00:13:22,677 --> 00:13:25,055 on both sides of her head and her upper lip. 301 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:27,098 -We felt pretty confident 302 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,934 there was foul play, that she was assaulted. 303 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:32,062 -The crime-scene unit and the medical examiner 304 00:13:32,187 --> 00:13:34,105 arrive together and begin to process the scene 305 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,191 for DNA evidence. 306 00:13:36,232 --> 00:13:37,901 -They gathered items that were on the floor, 307 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:40,779 one of which was a tank top, red in color, 308 00:13:40,862 --> 00:13:43,406 and that was sent to the lab, as well. 309 00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:46,951 We also secured vaginal swab evidence from Pam. 310 00:13:48,036 --> 00:13:50,747 -CSI techs also discover a key piece of evidence 311 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,041 that could lead them to the killer. 312 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:56,961 -They recovered hairs from Pamela's hand. 313 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:58,380 They weren't cut. 314 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:00,298 They were pulled from somebody's scalp. 315 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:04,219 -Our next step was basically to identify any witnesses. 316 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:06,596 We started knocking on doors in the dorm. 317 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:09,933 The dorm room directly above Pam Albertson's dorm room, 318 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:12,560 a woman by the name of Ann Santoriello lived. 319 00:14:13,812 --> 00:14:15,605 She was a groom. 320 00:14:15,647 --> 00:14:17,607 -When detectives give Ann the tragic news 321 00:14:17,732 --> 00:14:20,068 about her neighbor, Pamela, they have no idea 322 00:14:20,151 --> 00:14:22,696 that Ann was at Vernon Downs three years earlier 323 00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:24,614 when Leslie Dickenson died. 324 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:27,742 -We spoke with her about Pam. 325 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:31,579 -I was absolutely shocked. I really was. 326 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,292 I knew Pam because we lived in the same dorm. 327 00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:38,920 And we would just talk. 328 00:14:38,962 --> 00:14:40,463 She was very cute. 329 00:14:40,505 --> 00:14:42,674 She was just a sweet, sweet lady. 330 00:14:42,757 --> 00:14:44,384 Very hardworking. 331 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:47,929 -Nobody spoke in any bad way about Pam. 332 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:50,974 She was perceived as a very nice person and was friendly, 333 00:14:51,016 --> 00:14:53,309 had a social life with the other grooms. 334 00:14:53,351 --> 00:14:55,145 -She'd hang out with a few guys, 335 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:59,315 and she just enjoyed shooting pool and having a few drinks. 336 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:03,028 -Detectives wonder who would want to hurt this gentle groom. 337 00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:04,612 And while talking to Ann, they learn 338 00:15:04,654 --> 00:15:06,781 some alarming information. 339 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:09,325 -She explained that Pam was very much afraid 340 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,911 of someone named Mississippi. 341 00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:15,457 -Pamela was very scared of him. 342 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:17,375 It was a groom. 343 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:21,504 He was called Mississippi because he's from Mississippi. 344 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:24,799 -So it was an alias that he adopted that people knew him by. 345 00:15:26,176 --> 00:15:29,596 -Pamela told me that he was harassing her. 346 00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:32,557 He said that he had sex with her. 347 00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:34,184 There was no shot of that, 348 00:15:34,225 --> 00:15:37,103 because she wanted nothing to do with him. 349 00:15:38,521 --> 00:15:40,857 She told me she was getting afraid of him. 350 00:15:40,899 --> 00:15:43,443 I asked Pamela, could she go home? 351 00:15:43,526 --> 00:15:46,571 And she said she would get a bus ticket to go home. 352 00:15:46,654 --> 00:15:48,114 And she was gonna go home in two days, 353 00:15:48,239 --> 00:15:50,283 but never made it because she got killed. 354 00:15:51,326 --> 00:15:53,787 -Ann reveals intriguing information about Mississippi 355 00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:58,166 to detectives that could provide a motive for Pamela's murder. 356 00:15:58,249 --> 00:16:02,295 -He got fired about a week or two prior to Pam's homicide. 357 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,256 And some of the other witnesses 358 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,467 thought he got fired for harassing Pam. 359 00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:11,012 -Detectives are now on the hunt for any witnesses 360 00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:13,390 who might have seen Pamela with Mississippi. 361 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:14,766 -We identified a woman 362 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,351 that lived in the dorm right next door, 363 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:17,894 and she said that evening 364 00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:21,439 she witnessed Pam at her doorway to her dorm room 365 00:16:21,564 --> 00:16:24,693 with an individual she'd never seen before, a Black male. 366 00:16:26,277 --> 00:16:29,114 -She said Pam was telling him, "I'm going to bed. 367 00:16:29,239 --> 00:16:30,532 You can't come in." 368 00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:34,744 -Investigators are stunned by this eyewitness account. 369 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:38,748 Could this unidentified man actually be Mississippi? 370 00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:40,750 -We had a person of interest. 371 00:16:58,059 --> 00:16:59,728 -Police are on the hunt for a mysterious suspect 372 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:02,981 in the murder of Pamela Albertson. 373 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:05,358 And while interviewing grooms at a neighboring stable, 374 00:17:05,442 --> 00:17:07,068 they learned that Mississippi is actually 375 00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:10,071 27-year-old horse groom Robert Hayes. 376 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:13,950 -He was working as a groom, cleaning out one of the stalls 377 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,453 when we encountered him at Tagariello Stables. 378 00:17:16,578 --> 00:17:19,289 -We said, "Hey, we're investigating a homicide. 379 00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:21,041 We'd like to talk to you about it." 380 00:17:21,124 --> 00:17:22,667 [ Suspenseful music plays ] 381 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:24,127 -He seemed cooperative. 382 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:27,088 He said he had heard Pam had been murdered. 383 00:17:27,172 --> 00:17:29,716 -He volunteered to come down to the police station. 384 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,719 ♪♪ 385 00:17:32,802 --> 00:17:35,263 Rob had volunteered to give his fingerprints. 386 00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:42,312 But as we started to investigate him, more information came in. 387 00:17:43,146 --> 00:17:44,689 -Detectives confirmed that Robert Hayes 388 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:47,108 did spend time in jail for assault. 389 00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:50,987 -He had a fight with a groom from a neighboring barn, 390 00:17:51,071 --> 00:17:52,655 and it was a very violent fight. 391 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,157 He got the guy on the ground. 392 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,950 He was putting dirt in his eyes. 393 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,078 He smacked him with his belt buckle a couple of times. 394 00:17:58,203 --> 00:18:00,288 -People felt he was dangerous. 395 00:18:01,664 --> 00:18:02,957 -A number of witnesses who were on scene 396 00:18:02,999 --> 00:18:04,542 had mentioned Robert Hayes 397 00:18:04,626 --> 00:18:07,420 and the problems that Pam was having with Robert 398 00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,631 over the weeks and months before. 399 00:18:09,673 --> 00:18:12,258 -However, no one reported any of the incidents 400 00:18:12,384 --> 00:18:14,552 they witnessed between Pamela and Robert. 401 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,304 As detectives dig in, 402 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,723 they learn that most grooms live under a code of silence, 403 00:18:18,848 --> 00:18:20,392 preferring to handle things themselves 404 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,102 instead of going to law enforcement. 405 00:18:22,227 --> 00:18:24,396 But police find the recent murder 406 00:18:24,521 --> 00:18:26,272 has made the grooms more forthcoming. 407 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:29,484 -When we spoke to people at multiple other racetracks, 408 00:18:29,567 --> 00:18:30,652 we were both shocked. 409 00:18:31,569 --> 00:18:33,822 There were other incidents at other tracks. 410 00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:35,615 He's been banned from a couple tracks. 411 00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:38,076 Was a victim in new Jersey 412 00:18:38,159 --> 00:18:40,704 in which Robert Hayes assaulted her. 413 00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:43,164 She says Hayes came to her room, asked her for a cigarette, 414 00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:45,375 and he forced his way in the door 415 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:47,502 and just started strangling her. 416 00:18:49,004 --> 00:18:51,881 -This guy left a trail and got away with a lot. 417 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:54,384 -Another victim tells detectives 418 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:56,261 of a horrifying encounter she had with Hayes 419 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:58,972 while working at a track in Delaware. 420 00:18:59,014 --> 00:19:00,724 -He wanted to have sex. She denied him. 421 00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:02,892 And then he attacked her, began choking her. 422 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:07,564 And he threw her off the second- floor balcony of the dormitory. 423 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,941 -He liked women he could intimidate, 424 00:19:09,983 --> 00:19:13,611 and they don't come forward because they're scared to death. 425 00:19:14,738 --> 00:19:16,906 -We really start to focus 426 00:19:16,990 --> 00:19:20,910 on Robert Hayes as our main suspect. 427 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:22,287 -I went with Detective Flynn. 428 00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:23,913 He wanted me to pick a photo lineup 429 00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:26,958 of who I thought murdered Pamela. 430 00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:30,420 And I picked Robert Hayes very easily. 431 00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:32,881 There was no doubt in my mind. 432 00:19:32,922 --> 00:19:34,924 -Detectives also bring in the eyewitness 433 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:37,385 who saw the suspicious man outside Pamela's dorm room 434 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,763 the night of her murder. 435 00:19:39,888 --> 00:19:42,390 -And she identified Robert Hayes in that lineup, 436 00:19:42,474 --> 00:19:44,100 indicating that that was the person 437 00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:46,561 she had seen at Pam's door the evening prior. 438 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:50,315 And he denied ever being with Pam in a room. 439 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:52,150 He never put himself at the doorway. 440 00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:54,652 -Investigators go back to Robert with these accusations, 441 00:19:54,736 --> 00:19:58,490 insisting he knows more than he lets on. 442 00:19:58,531 --> 00:19:59,991 -He showed no emotion at all. 443 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:02,827 It didn't faze him in the least way. 444 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,121 He denied any involvement in it, 445 00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:08,416 and when confronted with if he's ever had sex with Pam, 446 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:11,211 he had stated that he had sex with her about a month ago. 447 00:20:11,336 --> 00:20:13,296 -He said she had a reputation. 448 00:20:13,421 --> 00:20:16,508 -But an eyewitness comes forward with a damning testimony 449 00:20:16,591 --> 00:20:19,010 that pokes a hole in Robert's story. 450 00:20:19,094 --> 00:20:21,638 -A gentleman named Clyde Tate witnessed an incident 451 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,224 that took place at the stables one evening. 452 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:26,393 He had heard Pam yelling for help. 453 00:20:26,476 --> 00:20:29,145 ♪♪ 454 00:20:29,229 --> 00:20:33,817 He said he found Robert Hayes -- Mississippi -- on top of Pam. 455 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,111 He was in the process of taking his pants off. 456 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,031 When Clyde approached him, separated them, 457 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:41,950 Robert went on his way. 458 00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:45,120 That wasn't reported, but certainly 459 00:20:45,203 --> 00:20:47,372 that led to the fear that Pam had. 460 00:20:47,414 --> 00:20:49,332 -Police pressure Robert. 461 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:52,711 They want to know when was the last time he saw Pamela alive. 462 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:56,006 -He said he didn't see Pamela, but we have witnesses 463 00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:58,466 that put him together close to the 9:00 p.m. 464 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:00,301 We knew he was lying. 465 00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:05,390 We knew he had been in the dorm building with her, 466 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:07,225 and we knew he was at the door. 467 00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:08,601 -After hours of interrogation, 468 00:21:08,727 --> 00:21:11,354 Robert changes his story and finally admits 469 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:14,691 that he was with Pamela on the night she was murdered. 470 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,901 -Robert finally confessed that yes, in fact, 471 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:18,611 he had been with her. 472 00:21:18,737 --> 00:21:20,739 -He was talking to her outside her dorm, 473 00:21:20,864 --> 00:21:23,283 but he denied the murder. 474 00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:26,369 -The witness statements, the fact that he lied -- 475 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:29,122 he said he wasn't with her, then he changed his story -- 476 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:32,584 we felt that we had enough to charge him with murder. 477 00:21:32,709 --> 00:21:35,920 He had collected evidence at the room. 478 00:21:37,255 --> 00:21:40,592 He did fingerprinting off the windows, the doors. 479 00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:43,803 We were hoping that would reveal some more information 480 00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:46,348 that would connect Hayes to this crime. 481 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:49,017 -The items were recovered, 482 00:21:49,059 --> 00:21:51,269 was sent to the crime lab for further testing 483 00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:53,480 in the search for the presence of DNA. 484 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:55,565 -We're talking about the early 1990s. 485 00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:58,860 DNA testing was not as sophisticated as it is now. 486 00:22:00,445 --> 00:22:02,906 -I had great concern about that. 487 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:05,367 And DNA evidence was brand-new. 488 00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:07,035 This was the first DNA case 489 00:22:07,077 --> 00:22:09,871 that Pompano Beach had presented to the court. 490 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:12,082 -While detectives wait for DNA results, 491 00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:15,210 the medical examiner releases the autopsy report 492 00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:18,254 confirming Pamela's cause of death as a homicide. 493 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,715 -The autopsy report came back 494 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,510 and determined that she had been murdered. 495 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:26,388 ♪♪ 496 00:22:26,513 --> 00:22:29,474 She had a broken hyoid bone in her throat. 497 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:34,187 -The cause of death was strangulation. 498 00:22:34,312 --> 00:22:37,232 -I could have done more to save her life. 499 00:22:37,315 --> 00:22:40,944 And that really, really bothered me, 500 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:44,406 because I know without a doubt in my mind, 501 00:22:44,531 --> 00:22:45,824 he was coming for her. 502 00:22:47,784 --> 00:22:50,453 The woman didn't get to live her life. 503 00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:54,082 -For Ann, the harrowing turn of events calls to mind 504 00:22:54,124 --> 00:22:56,960 Leslie's unfortunate death years prior -- 505 00:22:57,043 --> 00:22:59,421 information she takes to police. 506 00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:01,965 -She said she was at Vernon Downs 507 00:23:02,007 --> 00:23:03,174 three years earlier. 508 00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:05,468 ♪♪ 509 00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:09,097 -I remember Robert Hayes worked at Vernon Downs 510 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,306 when I worked there. 511 00:23:11,307 --> 00:23:14,269 I really didn't pay that much attention to him. 512 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:16,021 -And a young lady by the name of Leslie 513 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:18,898 was murdered in Vernon Downs. 514 00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:22,027 And in that case, she said it was ruled a suicide, 515 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:23,987 but Robert Hayes was on the track 516 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,780 when that incident took place. 517 00:23:25,822 --> 00:23:28,241 ♪♪ 518 00:23:28,283 --> 00:23:31,911 Ann Santorelli suspected it was a murder in Vernon Downs. 519 00:23:32,037 --> 00:23:34,914 -I would have never guessed her to commit suicide. 520 00:23:34,998 --> 00:23:36,791 It makes no sense. 521 00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:39,377 Who sets themselves on fire 522 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:41,504 and puts a cord around her neck? 523 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:43,214 -You know, the grooms all talk. 524 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:47,510 They were highly suspect, many of them, 525 00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,764 that Leslie Dickenson was a questionable death 526 00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:52,557 and that some further investigation 527 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,808 should have taken place. 528 00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:56,978 -I don't believe in coincidences. 529 00:23:58,188 --> 00:23:59,773 And there are similarities 530 00:24:16,289 --> 00:24:17,957 -Detective Flynn and his team have just learned 531 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:21,336 that the prime suspect in Pamela Albertson's murder 532 00:24:21,419 --> 00:24:24,839 was working at Vernon Downs when Leslie Dickenson died. 533 00:24:24,881 --> 00:24:28,760 -We realized that maybe it wasn't a suicide. 534 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,721 Robert may have had some involvement 535 00:24:31,805 --> 00:24:33,181 in that case, as well. 536 00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,225 All of that needed to be looked at more intently, 537 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,269 because Robert Hayes' case against Pam Albertson 538 00:24:38,395 --> 00:24:40,313 was a circumstantial case. 539 00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:42,982 -Which means that there's a strong possibility 540 00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:44,693 there's not enough evidence to 541 00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:46,403 convict Robert for Pamela's murder 542 00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:48,279 and he could go free. 543 00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:50,073 -That compelled me as an investigator 544 00:24:50,198 --> 00:24:52,158 to try and look into Leslie Dickenson's death. 545 00:24:53,576 --> 00:24:55,412 The state of Florida has a Williams rule -- 546 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,205 Williams vs. the state of Florida. 547 00:24:57,956 --> 00:24:59,749 -Under Florida's Williams rule, 548 00:24:59,791 --> 00:25:02,794 if investigators can uncover evidence of past crimes 549 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:04,587 that mirror the current charge, 550 00:25:04,754 --> 00:25:06,881 prosecutors can use it to strengthen their case. 551 00:25:06,965 --> 00:25:10,260 If Robert Hayes is linked to Leslie Dickenson's murder, 552 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:11,886 Detectives believe that evidence 553 00:25:12,012 --> 00:25:14,764 could help secure a conviction in Pamela's killing. 554 00:25:14,806 --> 00:25:17,559 -So we had to look at Leslie's case for the similarity 555 00:25:17,684 --> 00:25:19,728 to show that he has done this before. 556 00:25:19,811 --> 00:25:21,771 -One week later, 557 00:25:21,813 --> 00:25:24,274 Robert Hayes is arrested for Pamela Albertson's murder. 558 00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:25,900 [ Telephone rings ] 559 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:27,986 -We reached out to Oneida County Sheriff's Office. 560 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:29,988 -Detective Flynn asked me 561 00:25:30,071 --> 00:25:31,531 if I was familiar with Robert Hayes 562 00:25:31,656 --> 00:25:33,700 from our case -- Leslie's death. 563 00:25:33,783 --> 00:25:35,410 I was not. 564 00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:38,413 So we brought the case out of the file. 565 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,083 And it turns out we did interview a groom 566 00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:43,585 named Robert Hayes. 567 00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:45,295 His statement was that he smelled smoke. 568 00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:48,173 -Even though detectives interviewed Robert Hayes 569 00:25:48,214 --> 00:25:50,175 at the scene of Leslie's death, 570 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,760 he did not give them any indication 571 00:25:51,801 --> 00:25:53,970 to suggest that he could be a suspect. 572 00:25:54,012 --> 00:25:56,431 -We had no evidence of Robert Hayes being involved. 573 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:59,267 -As Detective Lisi and Detective Flynn 574 00:25:59,309 --> 00:26:01,269 compare Pamela's case to Leslie's case, 575 00:26:01,353 --> 00:26:03,104 they see glaring parallels. 576 00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:05,357 -They're both females. They're both white. 577 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,776 They both were grooms, and they both work in the track. 578 00:26:07,859 --> 00:26:09,903 -Not only are the victims similar, 579 00:26:09,944 --> 00:26:11,821 but the crime scenes are, as well. 580 00:26:11,863 --> 00:26:15,033 -There were just a lot of, you know, consistencies 581 00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:16,242 in the manner of death -- 582 00:26:17,494 --> 00:26:20,622 enough to strongly merit reopening the case. 583 00:26:20,663 --> 00:26:22,707 -We realize that it's a good possibility 584 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:25,502 that Detective Flynn was right, that there was a mistake made, 585 00:26:25,585 --> 00:26:28,421 it was not in fact a suicide. 586 00:26:28,505 --> 00:26:30,507 That he's probably right, this was a homicide. 587 00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:33,051 [ Suspenseful music plays ] 588 00:26:33,134 --> 00:26:34,844 I was sent to Florida for two weeks 589 00:26:34,886 --> 00:26:37,263 to work with Detective Flynn 590 00:26:37,347 --> 00:26:39,349 and the Pompano Beach Police Department. 591 00:26:39,391 --> 00:26:41,685 They would take me around where I could go to the track 592 00:26:41,726 --> 00:26:44,437 and interview same witnesses that they interviewed 593 00:26:44,562 --> 00:26:46,189 and try to gather enough evidence 594 00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:47,774 to determine this was not a suicide. 595 00:26:48,525 --> 00:26:50,110 -While in Florida, 596 00:26:50,193 --> 00:26:51,403 Detective Lisi works with Detective Flynn 597 00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:53,071 to track down dozens of grooms, 598 00:26:53,113 --> 00:26:54,572 hoping to find witnesses 599 00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:57,075 who may have information about Leslie's death. 600 00:26:57,158 --> 00:26:59,035 -There was one witness who said 601 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,080 that Hayes had talked about going out with Leslie. 602 00:27:02,163 --> 00:27:04,958 This information was never revealed to us 603 00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:06,334 at the time of Leslie's death. 604 00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:09,170 -The investigator, Lisi, 605 00:27:09,212 --> 00:27:10,588 was getting help from the people in Florida. 606 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:12,716 The case started to build. 607 00:27:12,757 --> 00:27:15,343 -In order to prove that Leslie Dickenson was murdered, 608 00:27:15,427 --> 00:27:17,762 the medical examiner has to change the cause of death 609 00:27:17,887 --> 00:27:19,889 from suicide to homicide. 610 00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:23,518 And the only way to do that is to exhume the body. 611 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:26,187 -Exhumation of the body is always difficult. 612 00:27:26,229 --> 00:27:28,356 We didn't know if the judge would grant it. 613 00:27:28,523 --> 00:27:31,151 -But the judge isn't the only hurdle 614 00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:32,694 for Detective Lisi and his team. 615 00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:34,195 -You have to include 616 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,281 in your motion to the court for permission 617 00:27:36,406 --> 00:27:38,074 the family of the person. 618 00:27:38,116 --> 00:27:40,535 So that's usually who gives you the greatest pushback. 619 00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:44,914 -But we had communicated with the family what we were doing, 620 00:27:44,998 --> 00:27:46,708 why we were doing it. 621 00:27:46,791 --> 00:27:49,419 The family was given a disservice from the start 622 00:27:49,502 --> 00:27:51,755 because a death case that should have been a homicide 623 00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:53,214 was ruled a suicide. 624 00:27:53,298 --> 00:27:55,091 -She had a previous suicide, 625 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,427 and they thought that that was exactly what had happened. 626 00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:00,388 So they were surprised about it, 627 00:28:00,472 --> 00:28:02,640 but they were not opposed to us reopening the case. 628 00:28:03,850 --> 00:28:05,560 -The good part was the family said yes. 629 00:28:07,771 --> 00:28:10,940 And the judge -- he granted the exhumation. 630 00:28:11,024 --> 00:28:13,318 [ Dramatic music plays ] 631 00:28:13,485 --> 00:28:15,487 -On November 15, 1990, 632 00:28:15,528 --> 00:28:17,906 Leslie Dickenson's body is exhumed. 633 00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:20,492 -I have to raise the casket, 634 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:23,495 and it'd have to be taken to the medical examiner's office. 635 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:25,205 -Upon close inspection, 636 00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:27,457 the medical examiner notices that Leslie 637 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:30,919 has a broken hyoid bone and defensive wounds on her hands. 638 00:28:31,086 --> 00:28:34,089 -The hyoid bone was very, very telling. 639 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:38,677 Along with the defense wounds that were on her hands 640 00:28:38,843 --> 00:28:40,261 led everybody to believe 641 00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:42,514 is indicative of her protecting herself. 642 00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:45,767 Combined with the blood splatter, 643 00:28:45,892 --> 00:28:48,395 it's not consistent with her cutting her own wrists. 644 00:28:50,313 --> 00:28:53,066 And this totality is very suspicious. 645 00:28:53,191 --> 00:28:55,485 -There was a blood splatter on her back. 646 00:28:55,527 --> 00:28:58,238 That means it fell straight down from right up above her. 647 00:28:58,321 --> 00:29:01,324 How could a drop of blood fall directly on her 648 00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:03,952 unless someone was standing over her with a bloody instrument? 649 00:29:04,035 --> 00:29:06,204 This was not a suicide. This was a murder. 650 00:29:07,706 --> 00:29:10,041 -In 1987, when Leslie died, 651 00:29:10,125 --> 00:29:12,836 Oneida County was using the traditional coroners system 652 00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:14,796 that allows hospital pathologists 653 00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:17,841 to conduct autopsies in lieu of a medical examiner. 654 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,176 And at that time, many pathologists were not trained 655 00:29:20,218 --> 00:29:23,847 to identify hyoid bone fractures or defensive wounds, 656 00:29:24,014 --> 00:29:25,306 which is why 657 00:29:25,473 --> 00:29:26,808 in Leslie Dickenson's first autopsy, 658 00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:28,810 these crucial details were overlooked. 659 00:29:30,228 --> 00:29:31,563 -Things like blood splatter, 660 00:29:31,604 --> 00:29:33,106 hyoid bone, the defense wounds -- 661 00:29:33,148 --> 00:29:35,942 that's the stuff that a pathologist does not see 662 00:29:36,067 --> 00:29:38,319 and a medical examiner does see. 663 00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:41,823 We all made a mistake. 664 00:29:41,948 --> 00:29:43,450 And that's what it was -- a mistake. 665 00:29:44,951 --> 00:29:46,536 -Although the medical examiner 666 00:29:46,703 --> 00:29:48,538 changes the cause of death for Leslie Dickenson 667 00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:50,874 from suicide to murder, 668 00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:53,710 Detective Lisi does not have enough evidence 669 00:29:53,793 --> 00:29:56,629 to press charges against Hayes for Leslie's death. 670 00:29:56,671 --> 00:29:58,298 -When you build a circumstantial case, 671 00:29:58,465 --> 00:29:59,966 you haven't got a smoking gun. 672 00:30:00,091 --> 00:30:01,760 You haven't got a DNA sample, 673 00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:03,595 You haven't got an admission. 674 00:30:03,678 --> 00:30:05,597 -Once we knew that it was a murder, 675 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:09,809 then the whole question was how or when was Robert Hayes there 676 00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:11,686 and was he responsible for it? 677 00:30:12,771 --> 00:30:14,522 -Robert Hayes was our suspect, 678 00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:16,649 and it was my job to connect the dots 679 00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,068 that this person was involved 680 00:30:33,041 --> 00:30:34,334 -While detectives in New York 681 00:30:35,585 --> 00:30:37,921 continue to investigate Leslie Dickenson's murder, 682 00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:40,882 hoping to find a smoking gun to prosecute Hayes, 683 00:30:40,924 --> 00:30:42,384 the DNA results in Pamela Albertson's case 684 00:30:42,425 --> 00:30:43,718 come back, 685 00:30:43,802 --> 00:30:46,930 and all eyes turn toward Florida. 686 00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:48,556 -The evidence that was gathered -- 687 00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:50,350 vaginal swabs, 688 00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:52,310 as well as the shirt that was taken from the room 689 00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:53,603 with the DNA evidence on it -- 690 00:30:53,687 --> 00:30:55,397 [ Dramatic music plays ] 691 00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:57,107 the lab called me and told me 692 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:59,859 that the evidence came back as a match to the sample 693 00:30:59,901 --> 00:31:01,903 that was obtained from Robert Hayes. 694 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:04,906 So that linked him to the homicide of Pam Albertson. 695 00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:08,201 -Although DNA evidence on Pamela's clothing 696 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:10,954 traces back to Robert Hayes 697 00:31:11,037 --> 00:31:12,372 and they have multiple witness statements 698 00:31:12,539 --> 00:31:14,874 claiming that Pamela was afraid of Robert, 699 00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:16,626 there is still no guarantee 700 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:19,087 that Robert will be convicted for Pamela's murder. 701 00:31:19,129 --> 00:31:22,966 -The fact that his semen was on the tank top 702 00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:24,926 does not prove he killed her. 703 00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:27,262 Proves he was there at some point. 704 00:31:27,303 --> 00:31:30,390 But that doesn't make him the murderer. 705 00:31:30,432 --> 00:31:33,059 -Robert Hayes maintains his innocence, 706 00:31:33,101 --> 00:31:34,894 claiming that he was not in Pamela's room 707 00:31:34,978 --> 00:31:36,438 on the night of her murder. 708 00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:38,148 -This was 1990. 709 00:31:38,231 --> 00:31:40,191 There were no security cameras on properties. 710 00:31:40,275 --> 00:31:43,445 There wasn't any eyewitnesses to the absolute attack. 711 00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:46,823 There was no fingerprints that we discovered 712 00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:49,117 that put him inside that room. 713 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,286 -As the prosecutors approach trial, 714 00:31:51,327 --> 00:31:52,579 they feel confident they've put together 715 00:31:52,704 --> 00:31:54,581 a strong case against Hayes. 716 00:31:54,622 --> 00:31:57,792 -The trial took place in October 1991. 717 00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,629 At the time, the death penalty in Florida 718 00:32:01,713 --> 00:32:04,799 required a recommendation from the jury, 719 00:32:04,883 --> 00:32:07,802 but the jury did not have to be unanimous. 720 00:32:07,886 --> 00:32:11,097 The final decision was the judge's to make. 721 00:32:12,557 --> 00:32:13,975 -Trial lasted two weeks, 722 00:32:14,059 --> 00:32:16,061 and ultimately, he was found guilty 723 00:32:16,102 --> 00:32:17,645 of murder in the first degree. 724 00:32:17,729 --> 00:32:19,522 [ Suspenseful music plays ] 725 00:32:19,689 --> 00:32:21,399 Robert Hayes was convicted 726 00:32:21,483 --> 00:32:23,485 and sentenced to death in the electric chair. 727 00:32:25,528 --> 00:32:28,948 -On June 5, 1992. Robert Hayes is found guilty 728 00:32:28,990 --> 00:32:30,992 and sentenced to death row in Florida 729 00:32:31,076 --> 00:32:33,536 for the murder of Pamela Albertson. 730 00:32:33,578 --> 00:32:37,248 -I really thought this guy was a danger to women. 731 00:32:37,374 --> 00:32:39,000 I was happy that he's off the street, 732 00:32:39,125 --> 00:32:41,503 he's not gonna hurt anybody else. 733 00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:44,798 -Now that Robert Hayes is on death row, 734 00:32:44,923 --> 00:32:47,342 the investigation into Leslie Dickenson's murder 735 00:32:47,425 --> 00:32:49,135 screeches to a halt. 736 00:32:49,219 --> 00:32:51,721 -Our investigation was at a standstill. 737 00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:53,890 -Simply because of the fact that the person 738 00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:56,142 who was our prime suspect was on death row. 739 00:32:56,226 --> 00:32:58,353 -Legally speaking, 740 00:32:58,395 --> 00:33:01,064 there should be only one way out of death row, 741 00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:02,899 and that's in a casket. 742 00:33:02,982 --> 00:33:05,276 But that's not what happens in real life. 743 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,697 In real life, there are appeals -- 744 00:33:08,822 --> 00:33:10,699 many appeals. 745 00:33:10,782 --> 00:33:14,369 More people have been taken off of death row in Florida 746 00:33:14,452 --> 00:33:16,287 than have been executed. 747 00:33:16,371 --> 00:33:20,375 -After Robert Hayes was found guilty and sentenced to death, 748 00:33:20,458 --> 00:33:22,544 he appealed the conviction. 749 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:26,297 -The Innocence Project looks at cases 750 00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:28,591 where DNA evidence is used 751 00:33:28,675 --> 00:33:33,388 and tries to determine whether they actually have somebody 752 00:33:33,513 --> 00:33:36,683 who is innocent of the crime with which they were charged. 753 00:33:38,601 --> 00:33:41,271 -In 1995, the Florida Supreme Court ruled 754 00:33:41,312 --> 00:33:44,399 that the original DNA testing used on the red T-shirt 755 00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:47,360 in Pamela's case involved band shifting -- 756 00:33:47,444 --> 00:33:50,613 a method they deemed scientifically unreliable. 757 00:33:50,739 --> 00:33:52,949 -And the t-shirt testing that was done 758 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:54,826 was a method called band shifting, 759 00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:56,911 where in the DNA process, 760 00:33:56,995 --> 00:33:59,914 certain bands matched that of Robert Hayes. 761 00:33:59,998 --> 00:34:02,000 So it pointed to him as a suspect, 762 00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:05,420 but it was not pointing to him with absolute certainty. 763 00:34:05,545 --> 00:34:08,173 -The method that investigators use 764 00:34:08,256 --> 00:34:11,343 to examine the DNA that was left on the shirt 765 00:34:11,426 --> 00:34:14,929 was considered no longer reliable by the Supreme Court. 766 00:34:16,348 --> 00:34:19,059 -The second go around was a bit of an uphill battle. 767 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,353 We lost a lot of the DNA evidence 768 00:34:21,394 --> 00:34:23,229 that we had in the first trial. 769 00:34:23,355 --> 00:34:26,149 The appeals court said we couldn't use that DNA testing, 770 00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:28,693 the red shirt, as part of our material 771 00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:31,529 going forward in the prosecution the second time. 772 00:34:31,571 --> 00:34:34,032 So we were going back to trial 773 00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:37,994 with only half the DNA evidence that we had the first time. 774 00:34:38,078 --> 00:34:42,665 -They were no longer able to use the testimony of witnesses 775 00:34:42,749 --> 00:34:45,835 who had told them that Albertson was afraid of Hayes. 776 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:48,838 -There was another issue of hearsay and opinion 777 00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:51,007 that it cannot be allowed in the new trial. 778 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,344 We still had the hairs on Pam's hands. 779 00:34:54,427 --> 00:34:56,763 Those hairs were likely associated 780 00:34:56,888 --> 00:34:59,224 with that of the individual that caused the attack. 781 00:34:59,349 --> 00:35:01,184 -In 1997, 782 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,145 after being incarcerated on death row for six years, 783 00:35:04,229 --> 00:35:07,023 Robert Hayes goes to trial a second time 784 00:35:07,107 --> 00:35:08,858 for the murder of Pamela Albertson 785 00:35:08,942 --> 00:35:11,069 to prove his innocence. 786 00:35:11,111 --> 00:35:14,781 And the defense zeroes in on the hairs found in Pamela's hands, 787 00:35:14,864 --> 00:35:17,659 arguing that they must have belonged to the assailant. 788 00:35:17,742 --> 00:35:21,705 -These hairs belonged to a Caucasian. 789 00:35:21,788 --> 00:35:23,373 Hayes is a Black man. 790 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:26,042 So we knew right away something is wrong here. 791 00:35:26,084 --> 00:35:27,585 Whose hair is that? 792 00:35:29,212 --> 00:35:32,215 -The defense argument was. it was a Caucasian. 793 00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:34,801 Defensive wounds -- she grabbed the suspect's hair. 794 00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:38,847 She had some of his hair, and it couldn't be Robert Hayes. 795 00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:41,099 -Which led the jury to come back with a verdict 796 00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:44,811 of not guilty for Robert Hayes in Pam's death. 797 00:35:44,853 --> 00:35:47,814 -The three hairs had been examined, 798 00:35:47,856 --> 00:35:49,983 but they had never been tested for DNA. 799 00:35:50,025 --> 00:35:52,569 -Later on, it was determined by a lab 800 00:35:52,652 --> 00:35:56,573 that those hairs were from the victim, Pamela. 801 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:59,617 -In a mind-blowing twist, 802 00:35:59,701 --> 00:36:02,620 Robert Hayes is released from Florida's death row 803 00:36:02,704 --> 00:36:05,749 on July 16, 1997. 804 00:36:05,832 --> 00:36:08,209 -And he was free to go back into the community 805 00:36:08,293 --> 00:36:09,669 wherever he chose to go. 806 00:36:11,338 --> 00:36:14,257 -A person like Robert Hayes to be released 807 00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:17,135 would be the worst thing they could possibly do. 808 00:36:19,471 --> 00:36:23,600 -That was a gut punch. I felt as though I let Pam down. 809 00:36:23,683 --> 00:36:25,518 [ Dramatic music plays ] 810 00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:30,398 ♪♪ 811 00:36:30,523 --> 00:36:31,900 I still feel like that. 812 00:36:31,983 --> 00:36:34,402 ♪♪ 813 00:36:34,527 --> 00:36:36,112 -After being exonerated, 814 00:36:36,196 --> 00:36:38,698 Robert Hayes cannot be tried again. 815 00:36:38,823 --> 00:36:40,408 It's called double jeopardy. 816 00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:43,703 And once you're exonerated by a jury, that's it. 817 00:36:43,745 --> 00:36:45,747 You can't be tried for that crime. 818 00:36:45,830 --> 00:36:48,124 ♪♪ 819 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:51,252 -Knowing his violent history, Detective Flynn and his team 820 00:36:51,336 --> 00:36:53,922 are desperate to keep Robert Hayes behind bars, 821 00:36:54,005 --> 00:36:56,466 and their only hope is to reach out to New York, 822 00:36:56,549 --> 00:36:58,093 because Hayes has never been tried 823 00:36:58,218 --> 00:37:00,011 for the murder of Leslie Dickenson. 824 00:37:00,136 --> 00:37:02,722 -So now they put the ball back in our court 825 00:37:02,847 --> 00:37:04,974 to really go ahead and try to find out the truth 826 00:37:05,058 --> 00:37:07,686 and find enough evidence to indict Robert Hayes, 827 00:37:07,727 --> 00:37:09,938 because we knew he was guilty, 828 00:37:10,063 --> 00:37:11,773 but now he was gonna be free. 829 00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:13,942 -And there's no doubt he's going to rape 830 00:37:14,025 --> 00:37:15,694 or hurt another woman. 831 00:37:15,777 --> 00:37:20,031 -He was a dangerous individual, and the only hope I had 832 00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:22,117 was that Oneida County 833 00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:42,929 -On July 16th, 1997, Robert Hayes is set free. 834 00:37:43,388 --> 00:37:44,931 And once again, 835 00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:47,434 Florida detectives turn to New York for help. 836 00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:50,061 -When Robert Hayes was found not guilty 837 00:37:50,145 --> 00:37:52,147 in the second trial for Pam Albertson, 838 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:55,400 I let Oneida County Sheriff's Office know that. 839 00:37:56,609 --> 00:37:58,445 -All hell broke loose with the investigators. 840 00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:00,321 They were in my office like immediately. 841 00:38:00,447 --> 00:38:01,990 -I felt we should have to do something, 842 00:38:02,073 --> 00:38:03,450 we have to do something. 843 00:38:03,533 --> 00:38:05,326 I had talked to Mike Arcuri. 844 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,537 I said, "We have to go forward with this investigation." 845 00:38:07,579 --> 00:38:09,748 -This guy -- he's a predator. 846 00:38:09,789 --> 00:38:12,167 You can't let him be on the street. 847 00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:14,461 The investigator is in Florida knew full well 848 00:38:14,586 --> 00:38:16,796 that they had the right guy, 849 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,132 but that the evidence was tainted somehow. 850 00:38:19,215 --> 00:38:20,925 So now they were pushing us, 851 00:38:21,051 --> 00:38:23,386 "You guys have to get him for the Leslie Dickenson case." 852 00:38:23,428 --> 00:38:27,182 [ Dramatic music plays ] 853 00:38:27,223 --> 00:38:28,767 -We realized that putting the case together, 854 00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:30,518 the grooms were key. 855 00:38:31,644 --> 00:38:34,314 They were all over the country. 856 00:38:34,356 --> 00:38:36,149 We went all over the East Coast -- 857 00:38:36,274 --> 00:38:37,859 South Carolina, North Carolina -- 858 00:38:37,984 --> 00:38:40,362 multiple states to try to find different witnesses. 859 00:38:41,446 --> 00:38:42,781 A lot of them opened up. 860 00:38:42,822 --> 00:38:44,699 A lot of them were afraid of him. 861 00:38:44,783 --> 00:38:47,369 There were a couple women that he had actually threatened. 862 00:38:47,452 --> 00:38:49,371 The end of the day, 863 00:38:49,496 --> 00:38:52,582 they did come forward and give us statements. 864 00:38:52,665 --> 00:38:56,044 -Detective Lisi finally gets a break when two men, 865 00:38:56,086 --> 00:38:58,963 a groom and a former cellmate of Robert's, 866 00:38:59,005 --> 00:39:01,966 come forward with the same statement. 867 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:03,677 -There was an individual who said 868 00:39:03,802 --> 00:39:06,930 that he had an admission from Robert Hayes 869 00:39:07,055 --> 00:39:09,391 that Robert Hayes had committed this murder... 870 00:39:11,267 --> 00:39:13,478 up at a track in New York. 871 00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:14,979 -There were grooms 872 00:39:15,063 --> 00:39:17,399 and a prisoner that he was in jail with 873 00:39:17,524 --> 00:39:20,110 where he admitted that he had killed Leslie. 874 00:39:20,193 --> 00:39:21,820 -The witness statements 875 00:39:21,903 --> 00:39:24,155 and the admission of guilt from Robert Hayes 876 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,782 is enough evidence 877 00:39:25,865 --> 00:39:27,951 for New York state prosecutors to arrest him. 878 00:39:29,202 --> 00:39:33,790 -In 2003, Hayes was indicted for second-degree murder 879 00:39:33,832 --> 00:39:35,959 in the death of Leslie Dickenson. 880 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:38,920 -In November 2004, the trial of Robert Hayes 881 00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:41,715 for the murder of Leslie Dickenson begins. 882 00:39:41,756 --> 00:39:44,968 -I was there in Oneida County with Joe Lisi. 883 00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:47,303 -In a heart-stopping turn of events, 884 00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:51,516 Robert Hayes pleads guilty to the murder of Leslie Dickenson. 885 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:55,937 -Hayes decided to enter a guilty plea to manslaughter. 886 00:39:56,021 --> 00:39:58,648 [ Soft music plays ] 887 00:39:58,732 --> 00:40:00,275 -We were both shocked. 888 00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:03,653 -I never expected him to plead guilty. 889 00:40:03,695 --> 00:40:04,738 It was like a relief. 890 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:07,365 -The court required him to allocute -- 891 00:40:07,449 --> 00:40:09,200 that is to tell exactly what happened 892 00:40:09,242 --> 00:40:11,369 on the night Leslie Dickenson was murdered. 893 00:40:12,537 --> 00:40:14,539 Robert Hayes indicated yes, 894 00:40:14,622 --> 00:40:16,708 he did go down to her room that night, 895 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:19,252 that he tried to take some money from her, 896 00:40:19,336 --> 00:40:20,879 that she slapped his hand, 897 00:40:20,962 --> 00:40:23,298 that he got mad, they had words. 898 00:40:24,341 --> 00:40:26,009 He punched her in the face and knocked her out, 899 00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:28,261 at which point he got worried. 900 00:40:28,345 --> 00:40:30,138 He thought that he was going to get in trouble. 901 00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,642 Then he took the electric knife, cut her wrist, cut her neck... 902 00:40:36,186 --> 00:40:38,188 tied her up with the cord. 903 00:40:38,313 --> 00:40:41,733 He took the vodka, poured it around, and lit it 904 00:40:41,858 --> 00:40:43,860 to try to hide what he did 905 00:40:43,902 --> 00:40:46,279 and to try to make it look like a suicide. 906 00:40:46,363 --> 00:40:48,073 -Robert Hayes was sentenced 907 00:40:48,156 --> 00:40:50,784 to between 15 and 45 years in prison. 908 00:40:50,825 --> 00:40:54,704 -But with the possibility of parole after 25 years. 909 00:40:54,788 --> 00:40:58,291 I had great concerns whether or not he gets paroled. 910 00:40:58,375 --> 00:41:00,043 -The biggest feeling I had 911 00:41:00,126 --> 00:41:02,170 was the sense of making it whole for the family. 912 00:41:03,254 --> 00:41:05,465 Because in totality, we screwed up. 913 00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:06,716 The whole criminal justice system 914 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,926 let that family down. 915 00:41:08,843 --> 00:41:11,304 We missed things that shouldn't have been missed. 916 00:41:11,388 --> 00:41:13,390 But now we righted a wrong. 917 00:41:13,473 --> 00:41:14,933 [ Down-tempo music plays ] 918 00:41:15,016 --> 00:41:17,394 -When they got him for Leslie's case, 919 00:41:17,435 --> 00:41:19,979 that made me very happy. 920 00:41:20,146 --> 00:41:22,190 ♪♪ 921 00:41:22,273 --> 00:41:24,484 -Although Robert Hayes pled guilty 922 00:41:24,609 --> 00:41:25,694 to Leslie Dickenson's murder, 923 00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:27,654 the story doesn't end there. 924 00:41:27,696 --> 00:41:31,491 Hayes claims he is innocent in the murder of Pamela Albertson 925 00:41:31,616 --> 00:41:34,369 and wrongfully spent time on death row. 926 00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:36,413 He reaches out to the Innocence Project, 927 00:41:36,538 --> 00:41:40,750 demanding that the DNA in Pamela's case be retested. 928 00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:44,337 -The Innocence Project asked the Broward State Attorney's Office 929 00:41:44,421 --> 00:41:48,258 to retest the vaginal swabs, retest the shirt, 930 00:41:48,341 --> 00:41:52,512 and let's show once and for all that this was not Robert Hayes. 931 00:41:52,554 --> 00:41:55,765 -They retest Pamela's clothing for DNA samples, 932 00:41:55,849 --> 00:42:00,729 and they discover that it belonged to Robert Hayes. 933 00:42:00,854 --> 00:42:05,108 -The DNA found on her body belonged to Hayes. 934 00:42:05,191 --> 00:42:07,110 Instead of clearing his name, 935 00:42:07,235 --> 00:42:13,283 Hayes condemned himself as the murderer of Pamela Albertson. 936 00:42:13,366 --> 00:42:16,619 -Although Robert Hayes cannot be retried in Pamela's case, 937 00:42:16,703 --> 00:42:19,998 the DNA evidence can be used by New York state prosecutors 938 00:42:20,123 --> 00:42:22,959 to keep Hayes behind bars for Leslie Dickenson's murder 939 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,545 when he's eligible for parole. 940 00:42:25,587 --> 00:42:28,757 -The parole board can consider the murder of Pamela Albertson 941 00:42:28,882 --> 00:42:31,885 in determining whether he gets paroled. 942 00:42:32,886 --> 00:42:34,846 -My feeling when that happened 943 00:42:34,929 --> 00:42:38,016 was that justice is finally being served. 74401

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