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- Tonight on "The
Proof Is Out There."
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Was this the first footage
ever shot of a genuine UFO?
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- In 1950, the newly
independent Air Force
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was already taking these kinds
of sightings very seriously.
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- [Tony] Could this
strange mummy really be
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the remains of an alien?
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- She does, in fact, have
tridactyl hands and feet,
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which only display three
fingers and three toes.
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- [Tony] How did one man survive
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the deadliest plane
crash of 2025?
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- That someone could walk away
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from this disaster
is impossible.
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- [Tony] And did this photo
capture a real-life ghost?
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- This stands out as one of
the most famous ghost photos
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of all time.
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- [Tony] Around the
globe are videos.
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- Oh, there it goes.
- [Tony] Photos.
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And sounds
that defy explanation.
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[static hissing]
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[dramatic music]
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- We don't
know where they come from,
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who made them,
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or how they operate.
- [Tony] What are they?
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- Some sort
of bizarre mutation.
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- What's exciting
is nobody really knows.
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- Extraordinary claims
need extraordinary proof.
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- I'm Tony Harris, and
as a journalist for more
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than 30 years, I've followed
the facts where they take me.
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- [Tony] Now I'm bringing that
spirit of investigation
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to the world's strangest
sounds and images.
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- It's coming toward us.
- We'll analyze each one
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with top experts.
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- It's a credible case.
It's a credible video.
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- [Tony] And pass a
verdict on what it is.
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- This video was clearly faked.
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- "The Proof" starts now.
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[dramatic music]
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Good evening, and welcome
to "The Proof Is Out There."
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Back in 1947, pilot Kenneth
Arnold reported nine flying
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objects over Washington state.
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He didn't get a photo.
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But his account alone kicked off
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the first flying saucer craze.
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Just a few years later,
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the very first
motion picture film
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of an alleged flying
saucer was shot.
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The footage made a huge splash.
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And now it's time for
us to take a look.
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- [Tony] It's June 1950 in
Louisville, Kentucky.
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Louisville Times
staff photographer,
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Al Hixenbaugh
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intends to film some birds.
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But a roaring engine
overhead draws his attention
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to something far stranger.
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He points his 16-millimeter
movie camera skyward
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and films this.
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A DC-3 plane crosses
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the frame, unmistakable,
steady, conventional.
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But then a strange
circular object appears.
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- It's a dark orb, but it
looks like there's kind of
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this glowing halo around it.
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It looks like it's
floating and shifting
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and almost dancing a
little bit through the sky.
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And in 1950, just the
fact that anybody saw
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this was enough to
capture headlines.
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- [Tony] This UFO story spread
from The Louisville Times
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to papers across the nation,
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the footage going
down in history
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as the very first motion
picture of a flying saucer.
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- [Amy] This was taken
in a time when UFOs
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were on everybody's mind.
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In 1950, the newly
independent Air Force
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was already starting
to investigate UFOs.
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One early project
was Project Grudge,
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and reports show that there
were actual investigations
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and intelligence reviews
suggesting that the Air Force
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was taking these kinds of
sightings very seriously.
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- [Tony] In fact, the Air Force
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took this Louisville sighting
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so seriously, it tried to
get a copy of the film,
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according to
unclassified documents.
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We don't know how that
investigation ended,
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but we do know some people
maintain this is a UFO,
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partly because of that glow.
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- Some suggest the corona is
proof of an energy signature
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from a particle accelerator
that is allowing this object to
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travel through interdimensional
gateways like wormholes.
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So some wonder whether
the glowing aura is enough
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to legitimize this as
a true flying saucer.
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- [Tony] And if it
is a flying saucer,
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it's one of the few that's
been documented flying
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on its side.
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- It looks like it's
almost on the side,
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or we're looking at
the undercarriage
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of a traditional UFO.
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- [Tony] It's reminiscent of
another photo taken in 1967
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in New Mexico, which shows
an alleged flying saucer
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in the same position.
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- Traditional UFOs
move horizontally,
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but some wonder whether
this could be another type
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of UFO that went out of fashion
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because it hasn't been
reported as frequently.
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- By the early 1950s,
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many businesses had
figured out how to cash
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in on America's flying
saucer obsession.
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From early frisbees to
ice cream sandwiches,
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if the product was round,
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it was probably marketed
as a flying saucer.
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Let's see if our experts
think this historic footage
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is also worth the hype.
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[tense music]
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- [Tony] First, a reality check.
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That other flying saucer
photo we showed you turned out
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to be a hoax.
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Could that be the case here?
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- This historic footage has
a lot of things going for it.
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Number one, we have a
witness who visually saw it.
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Number two, I think that
the footage itself supports
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the idea this was
actually in the sky.
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What's difficult when you're
doing film to hoax something
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is you're not just
looking at one frame.
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At 24 frames per second,
shooting 50 feet of film,
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that's about 2,000
frames of film.
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So to hoax that, to
paint it, let's say,
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into the image in
post-production
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at the time period would
have been quite difficult
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to do over so many frames.
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So my conclusion is this is
something that's actually
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in the sky.
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- [Tony] Given the
circular shape,
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could that something
be a weather balloon?
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- Weather balloons
rise very rapidly,
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and it's just like when you
let go of a party balloon,
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it flies up in the air and
it moves with the wind.
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So even though weather
balloons are very, very large,
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they become visually
small very quickly.
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So there's no indication that
this is a weather balloon.
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- [Tony] But that
doesn't mean it's a UFO.
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While West agrees this
is something in the sky,
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he thinks it looks a little
different on the film
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than it would have in real life.
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- [Mick] I think what we're
looking at here is an artifact
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of film development and film
exposure called solarization.
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And this happens when the
film is exposed to the sun.
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If you get too much sun,
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it can basically break
that development process,
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and it can strip away the
silver crystals from the film.
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And that has
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the same effect of them
not being exposed at all.
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So instead of seeing a
white disk of the sun,
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you see a black disk of the sun
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because of it being overexposed.
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I think when he got
back to the darkroom,
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when he developed this film,
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the sun came out
black because it
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has overexposed these
silver crystals.
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And perhaps at that
point, he then decided
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that he was going
to call it a UFO.
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But I think he pretty much knew
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that what we're
looking at was the sun.
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- Our verdict? This
is a film artifact.
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Specifically, a solarized
image of the sun.
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It turns out other
local reporters
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doubted Hixenbaugh's
credibility.
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They even told officials he'd
faked a UFO photo before.
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So we can assume his
sensationalist story was spun
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to sell papers, not to prove
flying saucers were real.
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Let's turn now from UFOs
to aliens themselves
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and the mysteries surrounding
Peru's Nazca Lines.
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They are one
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of the world's most enduring
archeological mysteries.
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There's a theory
they were created
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by nonhuman intelligent beings.
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It's been dismissed by skeptics.
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But could a new discovery
change the conversation?
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- [Tony] It's 2015 in the
Nazca region of Peru.
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According to news reports,
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a tomb raider exploring
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an unnamed cave uncovers
strange remains.
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They're studied
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at the Inkari-Cusco Institute
for archeological research.
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The human-like figure appears
to be covered in a dry,
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chalky powder that's
described as fossilized algae.
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Nicknamed Maria, she
has an elongated skull
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and very unusual appendages,
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reminiscent of descriptions
of the classic gray alien.
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- She does, in fact,
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have tridactyl hands and feet,
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which only display three
fingers and three toes.
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- [Tony] Yet what's most
unusual is that she has finger
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and toe prints like these
that look very different
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from most humans.
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- [Ken] What we're seeing
here is kind of very straight,
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horizontal skin ridges,
or dermatoglyphics.
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Human fingerprints
tend to be curved.
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- [Tony] Peruvian
journalist Jois Mantilla
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says radiocarbon dating
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indicates she's over
1,700 years old,
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and tests of her DNA
say she's not human.
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[Jois speaking in
foreign language]
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- [Tony] Since there are all of
these strange discrepancies,
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could we actually be dealing
with an alien life form?
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Let's get some expert analysis.
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[tense music]
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We'll start with those
odd fingerprints.
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They don't seem to fit from
an evolutionary standpoint.
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- Fingerprints help
us not to lose grip
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on slick items
like, say, a glass,
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because it helps us adhere
our fingers to that surface.
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For Maria to have
fingerprints like this,
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she would not be
able to grip things
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the way that we grip things,
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and so, I don't see how that
benefits her in any way.
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- [Tony] And what about
that strange elongated head?
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- [Kathy] This body was
found in Nazca, Peru,
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where the culture there
is very well known
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for head binding, where
they would bind the head
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of an infant and then cause
it to be more elongated.
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Almost all of those burials
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have this type of
elongated skull.
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- [Tony] But there's a detail
that raises red flags overall,
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that chalky powder on the body.
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And we still haven't explained
these odd appendages.
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Well, upon closer
inspection of those scans,
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it appears all is
not quite as it seems
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with this skeleton, starting
with that powdery substance.
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- It's really suspicious
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that there's this white
coating all over this specimen.
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It seems like it would
be a great way to hide
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anything that was
created artificially.
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- [Tony] Artificially
created? The CT scans say yes.
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- The bones of the hands
and feet match human bones,
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but it simply looks
like the thumb and pinky
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have been removed.
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And it appears that other
fingers have been attached
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to the three main fingers
to make them look longer
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than they are.
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We know this is a hoax
because the CT scans reveal
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that they are human appendages,
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but they've been modified to
create this alien appearance.
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- [Tony] Oh, and about that DNA.
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Subsequent testing by a
Canadian team indicates
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the bone samples tested
may have been damaged
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and contaminated, making
any results unreliable.
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Our verdict? This is a hoax.
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The skeleton is human
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and most likely tampered
with in a disrespectful way.
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- At the height of the
Cold War, the U.S. Navy
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was on constant alert
for foreign threats.
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But in 1952, something appeared
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over a U.S. aircraft carrier
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that crew members couldn't
explain, much less defeat.
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- [Tony] September 1952, the USS
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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is conducting maneuvers
somewhere in the North Sea,
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off the coast of Norway, as
part of Operation Mainbrace.
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- Operation Mainbrace was NATO's
first major Cold War naval
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exercise involving
hundreds of ships
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and aircraft operating in
coordinated, monitored airspace.
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- [Tony] It's about 4 p.m.,
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and news photographer
Wallace Litwin
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is on the forward flight
deck when he notices
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a white sphere floating
hundreds of feet above the ship.
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He snaps three exposures.
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Two are developed
into film slides,
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where we can see a tiny orb
hovering alongside the clouds.
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And one is enlarged
into this photograph.
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- Here's the conning tower
of the aircraft carrier.
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And then up here at the top
left side of the photograph
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is this luminous
object, this ball.
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Now, we have no idea
what this is, other
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than allegedly, according
to some people that were
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on the USS Roosevelt,
that this was a UFO.
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- [Tony] There's more.
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Later that day, officers
at Air Base Karup
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in Denmark see
something similar.
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- Three Royal Danish Air
Force officers sighted a UFO
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at about 7:30 p.m.
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The object was a shiny disc
with a metallic appearance,
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and it passed overhead from
the direction of the fleet
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and disappeared in the
clouds to the east.
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- [Tony] As if that weren't
enough, Royal Air Force officers
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are seeing silvery
round objects, too.
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First, over RAF
Topcliffe the day
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before Litwin took his photos,
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and then above the North
Sea a day or two after.
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- [Luis] So, you had a lot of
different perspectives,
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a lot of different people
from different backgrounds
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and different
countries reporting
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something very, very similar.
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So, clearly, there
was something there.
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- In that setting,
anything unidentified
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above a U.S. aircraft carrier
would not be a curiosity.
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It would be
operationally relevant.
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- This is a problem.
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Whether it's
technologically a problem
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because we're trying to
keep our trade secrets,
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or this is an air safety issue,
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no matter how you slice and
dice this, it's a problem.
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- [Tony] First, isn't this
just a simple film artifact?
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- Because of the fact
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that the gentleman got
multiple photographs
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of this object, and it
apparently had moved
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to a different position,
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those are indications
that it is not a defect.
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- The other thing we have to
consider is that Litwin took
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this photograph because
this object was in the air,
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and he wanted to
take a picture of it.
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So, I think it's unlikely
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that this is a
photographic artifact
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in this particular case.
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- [Tony] The U.S. Air Force
looked at this sighting as part
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of their multidecade
UFO investigation,
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Project Blue Book,
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and they dismissed
it as a balloon.
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Were they right all along?
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- [Rich] It could be a weather
balloon.
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In the context of the
actual initial statement
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by Mr. Litwin, the photographer,
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apparently there was
a weather balloon
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that was not launched
at that time,
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but a half an hour earlier,
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and that was his
initial statement.
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Later, as time goes on, and
he's retelling the story,
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it says that there was no
weather balloons up in the area.
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- [Tony] So, whether or not
there was a weather balloon
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is debatable, but
this much we know.
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Weather balloons rise at
about 1,000 feet per minute,
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so we can say
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that a weather balloon launched
30 minutes earlier would
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have already been much too
far away to photograph.
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So, the big question is
still lingering in the air.
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- Could it be a
UFO? Well, maybe.
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I mean, there have been reports
of spherical-looking UFOs.
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- [Rich] This was an extremely
large multi-nation operation
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that would have been
very interesting to a lot
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of the objects that keep
showing up around a lot
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of our military exercises.
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- [Tony] That pattern
continues to this day.
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In 2026, the Pentagon
released dozens of UFO videos,
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many of which were shot
near naval military assets.
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- [Rich] And so, it's very
logical that you might
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have had a case where
that was an unknown
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that was visiting this
military exercise.
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- We are going to have to
disagree with Project Blue Book
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and call this one unexplained.
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Balloon or UFO?
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Both remain possible, but
neither can be confirmed
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from the photo and
conflicting accounts alone.
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Now, let's change the
subject from ships to planes.
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From time to time, we feature
unlikely survival stories.
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This one happened during
the deadliest plane crash
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of 2025, when a sole survivor
walked away from the wreckage.
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The question is, how?
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- [Tony] It's June 12, 2025,
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in the western Indian
city of Ahmedabad.
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At 1:38 p.m., all 12 crew
members and 230 passengers
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have boarded Air India Flight
171 en route to London.
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Seconds after taking off and
steadily gaining altitude,
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the plane descends sharply.
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It disappears from view. Then
an explosion signals its fate.
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- The Air India flight
went up in a fireball.
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Temperatures went to
2,700 degrees Fahrenheit.
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- I was horrified when
I saw this on the news,
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and I was like, [speaking
in foreign language]
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That's what Hindus usually
say when someone passes away
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is [speaking in
foreign language].
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"Let their soul rest
in peace," essentially.
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- [Tony] Tragically, 241 people
on the plane and 19 people
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on the ground are
killed in the crash.
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And yet, cameras
capture one passenger,
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40-year-old Vishwash
Kumar Ramesh,
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who appears to walk away from
the wreckage almost unharmed.
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- If you were to
present this scenario,
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it would be considered
forensically impossible
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for anyone to have survived it.
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But Mr. Ramesh did survive it,
thus defying the impossible.
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- For me, seeing that crash
and seeing him survive,
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it was a miracle.
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It could be God saved him.
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- [Tony] There have
been some other
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unbelievable plane
crash survival stories.
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In 1971, a passenger plane
broke apart over Peru,
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and 17-year-old Juliane Koepcke
fell more than two miles
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into the Amazon.
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Against all odds, she
lived. The explanation?
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Updraft from a storm,
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along with a jungle canopy
cushioning her fall.
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But what saved Mr. Ramesh?
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- [Mitch] Mr. Ramesh was seated
in 11A.
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Devotees of numerology point out
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that some years earlier,
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there was another
plane crash survivor,
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the Thai singer-actor
Ruangsak Loychusak
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survived a plane crash in 1998.
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And he too occupied seat 11A.
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- Numerologists believe
the number 11 is linked
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to heightened awareness
and perception.
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Does that have anything to do
with how Mr. Ramesh survived?
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Or was there
something else special
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about where he was sitting?
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[tense music]
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- In this case, I can't say
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whether there's something
magical about seat 11A.
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00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:05,830
But I do have a theory
on why Ramesh survived.
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When the plane crashed,
Ramesh was in seat 11A.
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He was able to escape
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00:20:11,001 --> 00:20:14,296
through the broken-open
emergency exit,
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which happened to be right
adjacent to his seat.
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The plane broke apart,
and his part ended up
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in a hostel.
It came to rest there.
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And he was able to
get out of his seat
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and just walk right
out of the airplane
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before it filled with fire
that essentially would
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have spelled his doom.
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- In both this India
flight and the Thai flight,
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both survivors were
positioned by the exit,
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which I think was key to
both of their survival.
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- Our verdict?
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We're going with very
fortunate seat placement.
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Still, considering that
Ramesh didn't just survive
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but was able to walk away
from this catastrophe,
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if you want to call this
a miracle, we won't argue.
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- Some ghosts are so well known,
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they've become semi-celebrities.
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The one allegedly captured
in this next photo
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is so legendary, it's been
investigated since the 1930s.
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And now it's our turn.
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- [Tony] September 1936,
Norfolk, England.
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Two photographers for
Country Life magazine
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are taking pictures at
the fabled Raynham Hall,
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00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,411
long reputed to be haunted.
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00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:29,705
While setting up a shot
on the grand staircase,
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they say they see a
vaporous form on the stairs.
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And they're able
to capture this.
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- As opposed to a photo that
has the presence of orbs
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00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:46,889
or is more of a mist,
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this photo has what you
can clearly determine to be
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this full-bodied apparition
descending the steps,
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00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:02,696
which is effectively why
this stands out as one
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of the most famous,
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00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:09,578
if not the most famous,
ghost photos of all time.
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00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:12,790
If I saw this apparition
coming down the steps,
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I would be torn between wanting
to take the photo and try
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00:22:17,753 --> 00:22:22,758
to interact with it versus
the natural impulse to scoot
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00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:25,094
the heck out of there.
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00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:27,596
- [Tony] Legends of this ghost
go back hundreds of years.
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00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:32,101
And it's nicknamed the
Brown Lady of Raynham Hall.
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00:22:32,101 --> 00:22:34,728
- The Brown Lady of Raynham
Hall is believed to be
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the spirit of Lady
Dorothy Townshend.
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And according to legend,
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she carried on an
affair with the rival
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of her husband,
Charles Townshend.
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00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:47,950
And as punishment,
she was entrapped
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within the manor, locked away
until the time of her death.
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Now imagine Dorothy being
locked away for so long up
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until the time of her death.
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00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:02,214
Of course, there'd
be strong emotions,
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including frustration and anger.
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00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:09,054
And according to some
paranormal theories,
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that emotion lingers
and carries forward even
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in spirit form.
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00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:19,273
- After her passing, stories
of her spectral form haunting
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the manor spread
throughout the area,
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with some members of the staff
reportedly leaving in fear.
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- [Aaron] So, in 1836, we have
this Royal Navy officer,
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Captain Marryat, who
sets out to poke holes
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00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:39,209
in this ghost story and
decides he's going to sleep
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00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:40,836
over at Raynham Hall.
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00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:43,339
On the third night,
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he encountered this specter
clad in the brown dress
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and looking precisely like
Lady Dorothy in her portrait.
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00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:59,063
The captain sees the
specter moving toward him,
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and he is
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so afraid that he pulls out
his gun and fires a shot.
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00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:07,488
But the bullet passed right
through the spectral form.
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00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:11,867
King George IV decided
to stay at the manor,
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00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:16,789
and he encountered what
he described as "a woman
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in this tattered dress
with an ashy paleness."
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- [Tony] Now we put the
question to our experts.
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Is this a photo of
a ghost or a hoax?
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- One possibility here
is that we're looking at
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a light leak.
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00:24:36,767 --> 00:24:40,396
This is when a camera has
some damage to some part
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of it, and light leaks into
a component of the camera
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that shouldn't have
that much light there.
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00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:53,325
This manifests itself
as bright smudges
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of different sizes and
shapes on the photograph.
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Unlike many examples
of light leaks,
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this one has more of a
contained and distinct shape.
490
00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:07,131
Usually light leaks would
be on the edges or sides
491
00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:08,382
of the image.
492
00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:11,135
So it is interesting
that this apparition,
493
00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:12,428
if that's what it is,
494
00:25:12,428 --> 00:25:15,305
is really toward the
center of the image.
495
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,558
- [Tony] Many believe
that this was no accident.
496
00:25:17,558 --> 00:25:19,435
It was an intentional hoax,
497
00:25:19,435 --> 00:25:23,063
and the shape of the apparition
reveals how it was done.
498
00:25:23,063 --> 00:25:24,857
- Another possibility
of how this could
499
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:28,861
have been created is to
place something like a statue
500
00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:31,238
and remove it during
a long exposure.
501
00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:34,241
The motion blur
from you removing
502
00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:36,618
the statue actually
would not show up
503
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,996
if you move fast enough.
504
00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,665
- I actually did an experiment
to try to replicate this.
505
00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:44,168
This is a long exposure
on this camera here,
506
00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:45,461
and I just recorded
what happened.
507
00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:48,589
So what I did was I went
and I stood on the stairs,
508
00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:51,008
and I froze there
for 15 seconds.
509
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:52,593
It had a 30-second exposure,
510
00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:56,180
so I'm on the stairs for
half of the exposure,
511
00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,931
and when those 15
seconds were up,
512
00:25:57,931 --> 00:26:02,519
I ran out of the shot and just
waited another 15 seconds.
513
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,021
This is what actually turned out
514
00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:05,230
from that little
experiment I did.
515
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:07,149
Here is me standing
on the stairs,
516
00:26:07,149 --> 00:26:09,318
and you can see that I
am a transparent ghost.
517
00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:12,071
So, I think this is definitely
a possible technique
518
00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,365
that someone could have used
to fake that particular photo.
519
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,372
- Our verdict? Hoax.
520
00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:26,001
Mick West's test
shows how easy it is.
521
00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,420
As for those accounts
of the ghost appearing
522
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,131
to people, those
remain unexplained.
523
00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:37,304
- We have investigated
strange ancient structures
524
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:39,306
from all over the world,
525
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:42,267
but the one you're about to
see has defied explanation
526
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,353
for almost a century.
527
00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:48,440
- [Tony] It's 1937 in Salem,
New Hampshire.
528
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,068
Insurance executive
William Goodwin purchases
529
00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:54,029
a 106-acre plot of farmland.
530
00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:56,115
While hiking his new property,
531
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:59,451
he comes across beguiling
rock formations.
532
00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:02,246
[ominous music]
533
00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:07,417
- He looked at these walls
all over the 106 acres.
534
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,752
They twist, they bend,
535
00:27:08,752 --> 00:27:10,337
they have big slabs of
stone stood on their end.
536
00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:12,256
They have big stones
that are flat,
537
00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:14,091
that are stacked
up horizontally.
538
00:27:14,091 --> 00:27:15,592
And then they have monoliths,
539
00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:18,470
what we call America's
Stonehenge today.
540
00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:23,016
- [Aaron] According to William
Goodwin, the site's low,
541
00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:27,855
roughly human-scaled
stone walls were evidence
542
00:27:27,855 --> 00:27:31,859
of pre-Columbian settlers
from across the sea.
543
00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:33,235
He believed there
were Irish monks
544
00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:36,154
that were fleeing Viking
raids and traveled across
545
00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:40,826
the Atlantic to establish
a monastery here.
546
00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,786
- [Tony] In the decades
since Goodwin's claims
547
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,330
about the site's Irish origins,
548
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,374
alternate theories have emerged.
549
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,626
- [Aaron] One of the most
provocative origin theories
550
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:51,378
about the site comes to us
551
00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:55,382
from the 1976 book "America
B.C." by Barry Fell,
552
00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:58,302
who argued that America's
Stonehenge actually preserves
553
00:27:58,302 --> 00:28:03,348
evidence of Iberian settlers
who had arrived as far back
554
00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:05,475
as first century B.C.
555
00:28:07,227 --> 00:28:09,897
- [Tony] Or perhaps the
builders were here already.
556
00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,816
- [Dennis] Some now suggest
Native Americans,
557
00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:14,568
because they were here
for over 13,000 years
558
00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:15,986
in New Hampshire.
559
00:28:15,986 --> 00:28:17,821
But if there was any
tradition of stone building,
560
00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:20,699
it had pretty much disappeared
by the time of, say,
561
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,826
the Plymouth Plantation in 1620,
562
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,786
or even a little bit
earlier than that.
563
00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:30,334
- This massive stone at
the center of the site
564
00:28:30,334 --> 00:28:33,045
has been called the
Sacrificial Table,
565
00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,506
suggesting it was used
for a blood ritual.
566
00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:39,551
And adding another
layer to this mystery.
567
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:43,013
So who made our local
Stonehenge, and why?
568
00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:45,182
Let's ask our experts.
569
00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:47,643
[tense music]
570
00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:52,105
- [Tony] First, what about
those Irish monks?
571
00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:56,318
- There are a number of reasons
to discount that theory.
572
00:28:57,945 --> 00:29:00,280
Irish monks were expanding
573
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,116
their territory around 1,000 CE,
574
00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:05,661
and the first thing
they would do is create
575
00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:10,666
their monastery and these
very signature Irish towers,
576
00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,752
very tall, circular
at the bottom.
577
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:17,631
Every single Irish
monk site we know of
578
00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:21,677
has that signature tower
or multiple of them.
579
00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:24,137
And in the case of
American Stonehenge,
580
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:27,140
there's not a single building
that looks like that.
581
00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:29,559
- [Tony] What about the claim
582
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,478
that this is an
Iberian settlement
583
00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:33,230
from the first century?
584
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:36,441
The answer might be
found in stratigraphy,
585
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,276
the study of the
site's rock layers.
586
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:44,491
- [Ed] We see absolutely typical
Native American artifacts
587
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:46,952
in the lowest levels
of the excavations.
588
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:50,497
And it's not until
the European invasion
589
00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:54,960
that we start seeing things
like porcelain and metal,
590
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,712
things that came from Europe.
591
00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:58,296
So there is reason to believe,
592
00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:02,175
just in terms of the
chronology and the stratigraphy
593
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:03,552
of the site,
594
00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:07,264
that its original builders
were Native Americans.
595
00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:13,145
It also makes complete sense
that if Native Americans
596
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:15,272
had started this
kind of construction
597
00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:17,649
and made these shelters,
598
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:20,485
that the immigrants that
came from Europe may
599
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:24,072
have used Native
American foundations
600
00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:28,702
to then build out more
European-style things.
601
00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:32,622
- [Tony] So what was the
purpose of this site?
602
00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:36,293
- One of the things here
that people have speculated
603
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:39,588
on what it was really used
for is this huge block
604
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:41,089
in the center
605
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,799
that some people call the
Sacrifice Table or whatever.
606
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,635
But it could be an area
where you cut up meat
607
00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:47,679
or something like
a butcher shop.
608
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,514
Something that had
to do with the farm
609
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:51,058
that's surrounding it.
610
00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:55,729
When William Goodwin bought
the farm in the 1930s,
611
00:30:55,729 --> 00:30:58,940
he probably moved some
rocks around to try to get
612
00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:00,484
into the true structure,
613
00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:03,320
to get in underneath to
find out what was there.
614
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,906
So, you know, now
almost 100 years later,
615
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,658
those movements
kind of cloudy up
616
00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,869
what the true structure is.
617
00:31:17,584 --> 00:31:20,295
- The verdict?
Mixed construction.
618
00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:24,633
Native Americans likely
started America's Stonehenge,
619
00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:27,427
and Europeans built onto it,
620
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:29,179
which explains its odd features.
621
00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,476
- Did giants once
walk the Earth?
622
00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:36,144
To answer that question,
623
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:40,357
we're venturing into an
ancient Roman mystery in a pair
624
00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:42,442
of shoes that don't quite fit.
625
00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:48,907
- [Tony] It's July 2025 at
Magna Roman Fort in northern
626
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:52,494
England, after years of
painstaking excavation,
627
00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:55,956
archeologists working at this
first-century Roman military
628
00:31:55,956 --> 00:32:00,877
settlement make a discovery
that stops the dig cold.
629
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:04,172
Buried in a ditch outside
the fort is a collection
630
00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:07,968
of shoes dating back
nearly 2,000 years.
631
00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:11,972
- We're talking about 30
to 40 shoes right now.
632
00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:14,933
Every fort has a series
of defensive ditches
633
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:17,102
that are right
outside of the fort.
634
00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:18,562
And that's a common place
635
00:32:18,562 --> 00:32:21,231
where, when a unit was,
let's say, leaving the fort,
636
00:32:21,231 --> 00:32:23,024
they would actually
throw a lot of trash,
637
00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,401
a lot of rubbish in there.
638
00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:26,361
Like worn-out shoes was a
perfect thing to just go
639
00:32:26,361 --> 00:32:27,988
into this ditch.
640
00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:29,823
- [Tony] But a
closer look reveals
641
00:32:29,823 --> 00:32:32,242
these aren't any old shoes.
642
00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:34,661
- [Elizabeth] Immediately,
everyone said, "Wow,
643
00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,621
these shoes are looking
very large, aren't they?"
644
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:38,582
Because they're
wider, they're longer,
645
00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:42,127
their, just, their whole
feel is much larger.
646
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,380
Something like 50% are above
this kind of normal size.
647
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:46,798
You know, they're quite large.
648
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,425
- [Tony] The largest shoe
649
00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:53,013
in the Magna Fort collection
measures 32.6 centimeters,
650
00:32:53,013 --> 00:32:55,765
the equivalent of a size 15.
651
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,517
That means the man
who wore it could
652
00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:59,686
have been nearly
seven feet tall.
653
00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:02,105
For context, the
average Roman male
654
00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:04,107
was about five foot five.
655
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,568
Did the Romans enlist giants?
656
00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:09,321
It's not as far
out as it sounds.
657
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,866
- Nearly every civilization
from the South Pacific
658
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:17,787
to Siberia has an
ancient lore of giants.
659
00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,040
There is speculation
660
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,170
that these ancient mythologies
were based on real beings.
661
00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:28,089
- [Tony] If they were
real beings,
662
00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:29,507
where did they come from?
663
00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:32,219
Some wonder if they were
remnants of a species
664
00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:34,804
of large humans
called Denisovans.
665
00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:38,141
We know about Denisovans
from the handful of bones
666
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,478
and teeth that have
been found since 2008.
667
00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:43,313
- [Mitch] The Denisovans were
668
00:33:43,313 --> 00:33:47,567
a large-proportioned
prehistoric people,
669
00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:52,614
and they had bodies that
were, for their time,
670
00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:55,742
far larger than
typical Homo sapiens.
671
00:33:55,742 --> 00:33:57,869
- [Tony] Another theory
is the shoes belonged
672
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:01,706
to modern humans, albeit
exceedingly large ones,
673
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,208
made to fight for Rome.
674
00:34:04,584 --> 00:34:09,630
- [Mitch] The Roman historian
Cassius Dio reported legions
675
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:14,761
facing barbarian tribes of
incredible stature and strength.
676
00:34:16,096 --> 00:34:19,766
Rome was known to
incorporate conquered nations
677
00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:22,185
into its military.
678
00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:27,274
So if there were hugely
sized Roman soldiers,
679
00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:32,195
they might have come from
a conquered tribe that Rome
680
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:37,284
was able to enlist in
its own military efforts.
681
00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:41,036
- There are accounts
682
00:34:41,036 --> 00:34:44,248
of the Roman Emperor Augustus
displaying massive bones
683
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,583
and weapons in his
gardens and villas,
684
00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:49,379
believing they belonged
to ancient giants.
685
00:34:49,379 --> 00:34:52,507
To a Roman audience,
giants weren't fantasy.
686
00:34:52,507 --> 00:34:53,925
They were history.
687
00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:57,387
But is it possible the
Romans had actual giants
688
00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:58,555
within their ranks?
689
00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:04,978
- [Tony] First, were they
Denisovans?
690
00:35:04,978 --> 00:35:07,439
The problem is the
fossils we alluded to.
691
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,483
They suggest Denisovans
were heavier than us,
692
00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:14,154
but no complete Denisovan
skeleton has been found,
693
00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:16,197
so it's unclear if
they were taller.
694
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:19,034
So did the shoes
belong to barbarians,
695
00:35:19,034 --> 00:35:21,161
made to fight for Rome?
696
00:35:21,161 --> 00:35:25,290
Maybe. But don't believe
the ancient stories.
697
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:29,461
- [Ed] Cassius Dio, like any
good historian that's writing
698
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,921
a tale worth hearing,
699
00:35:31,921 --> 00:35:34,507
he may have inflated
the actual size
700
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:36,676
of how big these people are.
701
00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:39,346
We do know that the people
of Northern Europe were
702
00:35:39,346 --> 00:35:42,515
of larger size, certainly,
than the Romans,
703
00:35:42,515 --> 00:35:45,810
so that was certainly bigger
than Romans, and large,
704
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:50,774
but to call it giant
is a bit of a stretch.
705
00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:53,860
- [Tony] Then who did
these shoes belong to?
706
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:57,280
- [Ed] If the Romans want a fort
full of strong soldiers
707
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,324
that people won't oppose,
708
00:35:59,324 --> 00:36:01,785
they were probably
specifically looking for
709
00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,079
the largest people
they could find,
710
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,498
because they make
the best soldiers,
711
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,750
or at least the most
intimidating ones.
712
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:13,672
So it makes sense that the
Roman soldiers who would occupy
713
00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:16,257
a fort would be of local stock,
714
00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,592
and the local stock,
715
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:21,680
especially Scandinavians
and the northern part
716
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,058
of the U.K., were
much larger folks.
717
00:36:25,058 --> 00:36:27,769
- They've taken the largest men
718
00:36:27,769 --> 00:36:32,148
from the furthest territories
to guard against whatever
719
00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:33,733
they were fearful of.
720
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,152
That group just happened
to have bigger feet,
721
00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:37,862
and they kept them together.
722
00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:44,411
- We agree with our experts.
723
00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:46,788
The shoes belong to
local conscripts
724
00:36:46,788 --> 00:36:48,707
of the larger variety.
725
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,836
By the way, when Caesar
invaded Britain in 55 BC,
726
00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:54,170
he described Britons
727
00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:56,756
as fierce warriors painted blue,
728
00:36:56,756 --> 00:36:58,842
charging into
battle on chariots.
729
00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:02,303
You can see why the
Romans may have called any
730
00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,848
of the bulkier Britons giants.
731
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,438
we first brought to you
in a previous season.
732
00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:16,526
On April 26, 2013, in
Aguadilla, Puerto Rico,
733
00:37:16,526 --> 00:37:19,904
the crew of a United States
Customs and Border Patrol plane
734
00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,115
noticed this
unidentified object.
735
00:37:22,115 --> 00:37:24,200
It looked like a
metallic sphere,
736
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,911
and it moved quickly in
a loop around the airport
737
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:28,747
before heading out to the ocean.
738
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,123
And check this out.
739
00:37:30,123 --> 00:37:32,292
It appears to splash
down in the water
740
00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:34,878
before reemerging seconds later.
741
00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:37,881
- What's even more incredible
is that it seems to morph
742
00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:39,924
and change shape, and
then it breaks apart
743
00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:41,468
into two separate craft.
744
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:45,054
There's no known Earth
technology that can do that.
745
00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:48,683
This was a UFO that ended
up turning into a USO,
746
00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:51,019
an unidentified
submerged object.
747
00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:54,230
- [Tony] After this
mysterious video leaked,
748
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:55,690
a specialized team led
749
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:58,693
by our own Richard Hoffman
spent months conducting
750
00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:01,946
a meticulous frame-by-frame
analysis of the footage.
751
00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:03,323
- [Rich] It's a credible video.
752
00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,824
The telemetry you see
753
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:08,953
on the screen showing GPS
location identically matched
754
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:10,371
what you had with radar.
755
00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:11,748
There really was an aircraft.
756
00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:14,667
- [Tony] Hoffman also says
the object is too small
757
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,127
to be a plane.
758
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:18,379
- If you look at the
individual pixels in the video,
759
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,132
it's about 3 to 5
feet in diameter.
760
00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:23,635
- [Tony] Could it be a drone?
- [Rich] A drone doesn't have
761
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,637
the same heat signature at all.
762
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,097
I mean, there's no heat from it.
763
00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:29,682
- [Tony] Maybe a balloon.
764
00:38:29,682 --> 00:38:32,519
- [Rich] It was about
18-mile-an-hour winds from the
765
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:35,730
northeast, and this object was
going in opposite directions
766
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,733
from that, it's clearly not a
balloon. It's unidentified.
767
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:40,276
It's not from any place here.
768
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:44,906
- We initially determined
that this video captured
769
00:38:44,906 --> 00:38:47,450
a genuine UFO or USO.
770
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,744
However, in March of 2025, AARO,
771
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,623
the Pentagon's All-domain
Anomaly Resolution Office,
772
00:38:53,623 --> 00:38:57,544
concluded that these are
just a pair of sky lanterns,
773
00:38:57,544 --> 00:39:00,338
not a single craft
splitting in two.
774
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,883
What did Richard Hoffman have
to say about that? Plenty.
775
00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:06,845
- [Rich] You know what
a sky lantern is?
776
00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,931
It's nothing more than a
bag that's got a candle
777
00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:11,266
at the bottom of it.
778
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:13,017
Do you think a little
candle at the bottom
779
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:16,896
of that little bag is going
to stay lit for very long?
780
00:39:16,896 --> 00:39:18,982
Its temperature
is largely black.
781
00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,317
That says that it's got
an even temperature.
782
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:25,363
And would that little
candle make that image look
783
00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,615
as black as it is here?
784
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:31,661
No. So we got a lot of problems
with their explanation.
785
00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:33,746
- [Tony] In their report,
786
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,707
AARO also claimed
these objects never
787
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,333
fully entered the water.
788
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:40,670
It just appears that way.
Hoffman vehemently disagrees.
789
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,548
- They came up with a term
called thermal crossover,
790
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:48,428
which basically is saying
that the camera can't resolve
791
00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:52,140
a difference of temperature
between the object
792
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:53,474
and the water.
793
00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:55,768
So it becomes
invisible, if you would.
794
00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:57,604
And you can clearly see
795
00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,273
that there's no thermal
crossover effect here.
796
00:40:00,273 --> 00:40:02,901
That's clearly at a different
temperature, and that camera
797
00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,152
is picking up on that.
798
00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:05,904
We're doing a lot more in terms
799
00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:09,240
of our own independent
investigations into this thing,
800
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,118
and we don't necessarily
accept what they're saying
801
00:40:12,118 --> 00:40:13,786
as being legitimate.
802
00:40:17,957 --> 00:40:19,876
- So there you have it.
803
00:40:19,876 --> 00:40:22,295
Hoffman stands by his
original assessment,
804
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:24,505
and we stand by Hoffman.
805
00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:28,301
So we're keeping this
one as a genuine USO.
806
00:40:28,301 --> 00:40:29,677
And that's our show for tonight.
807
00:40:29,677 --> 00:40:31,804
Thank you so much for watching.
808
00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:33,139
And as always,
809
00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,016
keep those
cameras rolling.
810
00:40:35,725 --> 00:40:38,561
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