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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,859 --> 00:00:04,080 So many years, so many memories. 2 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:07,160 He was very, very beautiful. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,680 And he was a very beautiful baby. 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,480 It's sort of like a landmine in the mind, you know, and you go, wow, I 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,560 wonder where they are, I wonder what they're doing. 6 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:28,920 I just wanted my mom. 7 00:00:29,470 --> 00:00:34,510 I was angry that the adults in my life were not solving this for me. 8 00:00:35,710 --> 00:00:39,550 If I had been in my power, I would have grabbed the aisle and turned it upside 9 00:00:39,550 --> 00:00:42,510 down and shrugged it to try to find Charlotte and Mark. 10 00:00:43,290 --> 00:00:48,610 I didn't know if we'd ever get results with this case after 30-plus years. 11 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:55,950 I couldn't believe that this story could take a turn and just blow up. I 12 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:57,010 never saw it coming. 13 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:29,410 Everything seemed to be going great. 14 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:32,430 Charlotte seemed to be very happy. 15 00:01:32,850 --> 00:01:36,750 I was sort of working into the position of being a father and all that good 16 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:39,090 stuff. I mean, everything was great. 17 00:01:39,730 --> 00:01:40,730 It truly was. 18 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:47,390 Twenty-six-year-old Mark Barnes lives on the island of Oahu with his 31-year-old 19 00:01:47,390 --> 00:01:51,010 girlfriend, Charlotte Moriarty, and their six-month-old son, Mark. 20 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,240 The couple plans to spend the day working on the house where they've been 21 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,380 living rent-free in exchange for maintaining the property. 22 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:08,600 So I had built a deck, and we were planting birds of paradise on the 23 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,600 corners. Hey, I'm going to go down to Kapula to pick up the stuff up. 24 00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:16,680 Charlotte said she was going down to the little store that was three blocks away, 25 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,860 and that she'd be back shortly. 26 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:20,880 I'll take Mark's with me. 27 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,360 So I said, fine, great, see you soon. 28 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:42,600 Several hours go by, but Charlotte and Mark don't come back. 29 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,940 I walked down to the little store, but they were not there. 30 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:57,310 Instead, he finds Mark's stroller abandoned at a bus stop. 31 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:10,010 I figured she got on a bus, so I took the stroller and walked home, figuring 32 00:03:10,010 --> 00:03:15,170 she had gone somewhere and waited. 33 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:27,430 That evening, there's still no sign of Charlotte and Mark. 34 00:03:28,030 --> 00:03:32,010 Mark wonders if maybe Charlotte took a bus to see one of her girlfriends on 35 00:03:32,010 --> 00:03:33,190 another part of the island. 36 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:39,210 She would go and see people and, you know, sometimes not come back for two or 37 00:03:39,210 --> 00:03:40,210 three days. 38 00:03:41,730 --> 00:03:46,350 She had a baby bag with bottles and everything in it, so I was not overly 39 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:50,870 concerned. Charlotte was just sort of living for the day, which was pretty 40 00:03:50,870 --> 00:03:53,980 much... The way it was in the 70s. 41 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:07,360 In 1976, Mark is a freelance writer from California who landed on Oahu after a 42 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,080 tour in Vietnam with the Navy. 43 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,880 I was pretty much living by myself, you know, and just trying to take care of 44 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,940 odds and ends and write. 45 00:04:19,209 --> 00:04:23,270 One evening I was writing, and Charlotte arrives with a gentleman. 46 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:24,690 Hey, man, how you doing? Hi. 47 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:26,650 They were lost. 48 00:04:27,230 --> 00:04:28,230 Asked for directions. 49 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:30,370 Right-hand side. 50 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:32,830 Can't miss it. 51 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:48,230 And then the next morning, I'm up and... 52 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:49,780 I was at the front door, but Charlotte. 53 00:04:50,660 --> 00:04:54,300 Hey. She'd evidently lost her gentleman. 54 00:04:55,900 --> 00:05:00,140 She was alone, and she wanted to see the island. 55 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,400 What are you doing today? 56 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,760 So I volunteered to take her around. 57 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:11,860 The connection between Mark and Charlotte is instant. 58 00:05:12,740 --> 00:05:16,860 She was very free-spirited, very smart, very beautiful. 59 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,920 She had a great sense of humor and very set in what she wanted to do and when 60 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,820 she wanted to do something, she did it. 61 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:28,480 Mark and Charlotte were anti-establishment. I mean, that was 62 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,320 part of their attraction to each other. 63 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:36,400 They moved in together up the hill from me, and so they were neighbors and a 64 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,400 happy couple. 65 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:42,380 They were both kind of nuts, you know, frivolous and happy. 66 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:45,040 It was a great combination. 67 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:52,930 Charlotte tells Mark she was previously married and has a 7-year-old daughter 68 00:05:52,930 --> 00:05:55,030 who lives with her father in New Mexico. 69 00:05:56,390 --> 00:06:03,230 My mother was a very deep thinker. She was a searcher, I 70 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:06,370 think, even before it became a little bit popular. 71 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:14,250 She definitely was raised with sort of an upper-middle-class lifestyle. I think 72 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:16,990 the expectation for her was that she would marry well. 73 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:19,270 And she did. 74 00:06:20,310 --> 00:06:26,410 But she wanted something a little bit more free, a little bit more bohemian. 75 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:35,990 My dad tried very hard to make her happy, and it wasn't enough for her, 76 00:06:36,050 --> 00:06:37,530 and they split up. 77 00:06:40,250 --> 00:06:42,170 So I ended up living with my dad. 78 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,360 My mom was very much in and out of my life at that point, but I was always 79 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,400 happy to see her. 80 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,180 I remember she picked me up from school one day, and I'll never forget it. It 81 00:06:55,180 --> 00:06:57,020 was just because I didn't see her. 82 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:09,040 We went to the woods, and we discovered a little butterfly larva, and we took it 83 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,700 home, we put it in a jar, and we just watched it. 84 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,360 over time, and it was incredible. 85 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,840 Now that I'm an adult, looking back, I can see that that was kind of symbolic 86 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,880 of where she was at that time in her life. 87 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,300 She was changing. She was transforming into something else. 88 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:44,320 In 1976, Charlotte moved to Hawaii. 89 00:07:46,380 --> 00:07:50,980 Soon after meeting Mark Barnes, she becomes pregnant with their son, Marks. 90 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,600 I was sort of shocked. 91 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:03,960 I wasn't ready to be a parent, but, you know, you're never ready for 92 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,960 that sort of thing. 93 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:09,700 So I embraced it and said, well, you know, let's do it. 94 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:11,380 And we did. 95 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,580 I remember that he was pretty stunned about it. It's a life-changing event. 96 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:24,960 But he was stoked, as we would say, and very proud. 97 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,280 We loved that little boy. 98 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:35,120 We were having a great time and living the Hawaiian life, and Charlotte seemed 99 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,600 to be very happy, and everything was just rolling along very smoothly. 100 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:55,390 For two days, Mark continues to work on the house and waits for Charlotte and 101 00:08:55,390 --> 00:08:56,390 Mark to come home. 102 00:08:56,950 --> 00:08:58,130 But they never do. 103 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,810 I became a little worried. 104 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:05,590 So next day, I called the Honolulu police. 105 00:09:06,390 --> 00:09:10,810 According to Mark, he tells police that Charlotte is a free spirit who sometimes 106 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:13,770 takes off for a few days on a whim and doesn't call. 107 00:09:14,610 --> 00:09:16,610 They said, well, you know, give it a little time. 108 00:09:17,050 --> 00:09:18,330 So I said, fine. 109 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:25,190 Then after several days, I called again and said, my wife is missing with my 110 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:26,190 child. 111 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:32,370 They took down a description and everything, and if I recall, they never 112 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:33,690 sent anybody to the house. 113 00:09:40,390 --> 00:09:44,810 But after almost three weeks passed, Charlotte and Mark still haven't 114 00:09:44,810 --> 00:09:48,190 surfaced. At that point, I was really worried. 115 00:09:48,730 --> 00:09:52,170 You know, several weeks later, hadn't seen my son, hadn't seen Charlotte. 116 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:54,050 Don't know what the hell happened. 117 00:09:54,750 --> 00:09:59,390 Around this time, Mark learns that his good friend, Jim Murray, had spotted 118 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:04,170 Charlotte with Mark a few days after she went missing, walking along a busy road. 119 00:10:04,610 --> 00:10:10,950 I was driving to Honolulu, and the kid was over her shoulder. 120 00:10:11,490 --> 00:10:15,290 Couldn't stop. Everybody's going 50 miles an hour, and I thought it was 121 00:10:15,290 --> 00:10:16,290 really strange. 122 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,940 because it's miles away from anything else. 123 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,880 But he told me that I was surprised because I couldn't imagine why she had 124 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,220 gone to Honolulu unless to pick up something or there was someone there 125 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:30,220 that I didn't know about. 126 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,220 I just had this feeling like, you know, what is she up to now? 127 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,780 Went down to the police station to see what the progress was. And I discovered 128 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:13,800 that they had no record of any phone calls I had made reporting her. They had 129 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,160 no record of a missing person. 130 00:11:16,060 --> 00:11:17,680 They had no record at all. 131 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,860 On July the 10th of 1977, Mark Barnes contacted the police department to 132 00:11:29,860 --> 00:11:32,100 initiate a missing persons case. 133 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,540 for Charlotte and for his son. 134 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:39,580 At that time, he said the last time that he had seen her was on June 21st at 9 o 135 00:11:39,580 --> 00:11:40,860 'clock at a residence. 136 00:11:42,140 --> 00:11:46,740 It was mentioned in the report that Charlotte had taken off prior and 137 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:47,740 returned prior. 138 00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:52,060 So that was a known factor in regards to this case. 139 00:11:54,860 --> 00:11:58,560 I don't believe that I said anything about her psychological state of mind. 140 00:11:58,820 --> 00:12:03,320 I said she was a... You know, a free spirit and very determined. And, you 141 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,960 know, she did what Charlotte wanted to do when Charlotte wanted to do it. 142 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:15,920 I was fairly desperate to have them do anything, move in any direction as far 143 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,060 as finding her and Mark's. I'm going to head out to Kapua. 144 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:23,640 According to Mark, Charlotte seemed happy on the morning she went missing. 145 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:24,820 Great, see you soon. 146 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,160 But just after their son was born, her behavior had alarmed him. 147 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:43,300 It was a very crazy period of time when Charlotte came back with a baby from the 148 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:48,520 hospital. For a week to ten days, she walked around the house with a blindfold 149 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,500 on so she couldn't see. 150 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,120 I was doing most of the heavy lifting. 151 00:12:54,580 --> 00:12:56,140 I was in charge of the baby. 152 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,720 taking care of the diapers, and eventually she took off the blindfold. 153 00:13:01,660 --> 00:13:04,880 And she seemed to be a very doting mother. 154 00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:10,920 Mark assumes Charlotte had suffered from postpartum depression, and some who know 155 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,020 her would say she is prone to mood swings. 156 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,580 I do remember that Charlotte had bouts of going in and out. 157 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:22,880 She wanted to be alone a lot. 158 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:34,580 I never noticed anything that was radically wrong or anything, but she 159 00:13:34,580 --> 00:13:40,500 would go off sometimes all by herself and, you know, disappear for I don't 160 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:41,500 know how long. 161 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:48,520 But this time is the longest Charlotte has ever stayed away from Mark. 162 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,180 Her daughter Jennifer has a theory about what may have triggered her 163 00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:54,180 disappearance. 164 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:06,860 The last time I saw my mom was in San Jose. 165 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,060 She was four months pregnant. 166 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,580 It was wonderful for me to see her. I didn't want her to go. 167 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:21,780 I remember she put her hand on her belly, and she put my hand on her belly, 168 00:14:21,820 --> 00:14:23,880 and, you know, it was powerful. 169 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:25,260 I'll never forget that. 170 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,780 She said that she would come back at Thanksgiving. 171 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,960 And then we took her to the bus stop. 172 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,320 That was it. 173 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:44,820 After Marks is born, Charlotte starts making plans for Jennifer to come to 174 00:14:44,820 --> 00:14:46,300 Hawaii to meet her new brother. 175 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:55,600 My father was working with my mother's father and my mother. They 176 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,800 were trying to organize a time for me to come out to visit in July. 177 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,400 of 1977. 178 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:10,380 Hello, everyone. We are all well and healthy with marks growing more 179 00:15:10,380 --> 00:15:12,040 beautiful every day. Good news. 180 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,220 Jenny leaves the 8th. I hope you are as excited as I am. 181 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Jenny has kept the letters from her mom that reveal how much Charlotte was 182 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,860 looking forward to her visit. 183 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:27,960 She'll have some time to be with her favorite people. She's going to stay 184 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,160 with us for about a month. She should have a fun time, especially with her 185 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,160 brother. 186 00:15:36,620 --> 00:15:43,440 But a few weeks before Jennifer is supposed to arrive, the plan 187 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,440 falls apart. 188 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,780 My dad was very protective and concerned. 189 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,660 During the 70s, it was hard. If there was a separation or a divorce and a 190 00:15:56,660 --> 00:16:00,800 child was in another state, sometimes it could be hard to get that child back. 191 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:09,120 So my dad was worried that I may not be sent back from Hawaii, that my mother 192 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,240 would keep me in Hawaii with her. 193 00:16:12,820 --> 00:16:19,200 I think that when I did not come, my mother fell apart. 194 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 That's the sense. 195 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:21,999 that I get. 196 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,940 It was the last straw. 197 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:26,460 I think she just spiraled. 198 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:39,540 After Mark files a report, Honolulu police issue an official missing persons 199 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:42,000 advisory and launch a search for Charlotte. 200 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,220 They check with friends, family members, check for the hospitals to see if there 201 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:50,020 was anyone that might be there. 202 00:16:52,409 --> 00:16:56,450 They took down a description and everything, and thank you very much, and 203 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:58,150 give us a call if she comes back. 204 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:04,690 I don't think they were overly concerned about it. 205 00:17:05,530 --> 00:17:08,990 I mean, people would go off with someone else. They'd be living with someone and 206 00:17:08,990 --> 00:17:13,310 say, well, I'm going to go with this person. That sort of behavior was sort 207 00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:16,329 of rampant during the time we were there. 208 00:17:18,109 --> 00:17:19,490 She just disappeared. 209 00:17:20,220 --> 00:17:24,500 Lots of people did that in those days and on an island like Hawaii. 210 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:30,120 And with her background, I think that she could have made a phone call and got 211 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:31,600 a plane ticket and just left. 212 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,160 I mean, that happened all the time. 213 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:40,560 After a brief mention in the local news, the case goes quiet. 214 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:44,560 Mark continues the search on his own. 215 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,620 Well, I hitchhike up and down the North Shore. 216 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:52,660 you know, stopping at all the beaches and everything. 217 00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:59,180 And I'd look around with no luck whatsoever. 218 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,580 I mean, did everything I could in my power to try to find her. 219 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:16,540 On January 17th, 1978, 220 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:19,980 Mark is faced with one of the most difficult days yet. 221 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:23,860 His son Mark's first birthday. 222 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:32,680 When his birthday rolled around, I was feeling very alone and lonely and 223 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,700 worried and confused and a little dazed. 224 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,820 A very empty feeling. 225 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,000 I don't know when I found out, but I think my dad pulled me into... 226 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:53,420 a room shut the door and told me that my mom was missing, and nobody knew where 227 00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:54,420 she was. 228 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:01,400 I remember just being so sad. I was just so wanting to meet my new half-brother, 229 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,460 and I was on the swing, there were two swings, and I would kind of swing the 230 00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:10,020 other swing and pretend I was talking to him, and, you know, we were just 231 00:19:10,020 --> 00:19:11,800 cheering like siblings. 232 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,160 I really wanted to know him. 233 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:21,360 But I just knew that, you know, they were gone. 234 00:19:24,260 --> 00:19:29,440 For years, everyone assumed Charlotte chose to leave, taking Marks with her. 235 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,300 But a new lead is about to surface, suggesting a much darker answer to the 236 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:41,160 mystery. We started knocking on neighbors' doors to try and see if 237 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,960 anybody had been there back in the 1970s. 238 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:52,330 It was really surprising. I had no idea that this was going on. Mind if we ask 239 00:19:52,330 --> 00:19:53,330 you a few questions? 240 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:55,310 They said they argued fair amount. 241 00:19:55,530 --> 00:19:58,570 What would you say if we said we believe Mark is a suspect? 242 00:20:17,610 --> 00:20:20,270 We were all looking for Charlotte and Martin. 243 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:24,590 You just get disappointed and discouraged every time you come back 244 00:20:24,590 --> 00:20:25,590 without finding anybody. 245 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,550 It was just a really, really dark time. 246 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:45,650 I just sort of withdrew, you know, and stayed by the house. 247 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,660 You know, did whatever odd jobs I could to keep a subsistence lifestyle. 248 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:59,900 You have to come to a realization, at least I did, that she has gone somewhere 249 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:02,320 to make a better life. 250 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,700 And they were, I hoped, happy and, you know, and prosperous and living the 251 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:09,860 family life. 252 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,960 With still no sign of Charlotte or Mark, the case officially goes cold. 253 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,860 Mark decides to leave Hawaii. 254 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Employment opportunities were not there, and so it was just time to come back to 255 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,240 the States and try to start again. 256 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:40,160 Mark moves to Northern California and continues to work as a freelance writer. 257 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,640 I got married, and the outcome of that was two beautiful daughters. 258 00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:50,890 But Mark still can't put Charlotte and Mark's disappearance behind him. 259 00:21:53,010 --> 00:21:56,710 It's sort of like a landmine in the mind. 260 00:21:57,290 --> 00:22:00,130 It'll just pop up at the most unexpected times. 261 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:04,590 You go, wow, I wonder where they are. I wonder what they're doing. 262 00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:11,810 My first and second marriage were both dissolved because I was preoccupied with 263 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:13,850 Charlotte and Mark. 264 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:22,160 You know, it's tough to feel deeply enough for someone when you have someone 265 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,800 else on your mind all of a sudden. 266 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,380 I just wanted my mom, and nobody could tell me where she was. 267 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:49,510 Anything important like birthdays or high school graduation, college 268 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:55,670 graduation, you want to celebrate that milestone or whatever it is in your 269 00:22:55,670 --> 00:22:57,970 life, and you're not able to. 270 00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,790 It was sad. It was very sad. 271 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,280 More than two decades have passed without any news of Charlotte and Mark. 272 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:20,980 Around 2004, 2005, I got involved in a really pretty big way. 273 00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:28,800 I wanted it to become front and center because, again, I needed to have some 274 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,580 kind of answer as to what happened. 275 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,260 In 2004, the state attorney general's office decides to take another look at 276 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:44,260 the case. 277 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:51,420 Jennifer travels to Hawaii to meet with Honolulu police. 278 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:58,920 When we obtained copies of the initial missing persons report, the first thing 279 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,860 we noted was when Mark was interviewed regarding the missing persons case, he 280 00:24:02,860 --> 00:24:06,500 waited over approximately three weeks before he made the actual report. 281 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:11,880 He reported it on July the 10th. All right, thank you. 282 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,360 Said that the last time he had seen her was 9 o'clock in the morning on a 283 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,520 Tuesday, June the 21st. 284 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:23,380 Because it was reported late, there was no one else to corroborate it. 285 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Mark claimed that he called the police twice in the first few days after the 286 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,320 disappearance. 287 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,880 But there's no record of Mark's prior calls. 288 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,020 Mark Barnes. 289 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,240 as a person of interest because there was a delay in reporting and there was 290 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,920 no subsequent information about where she was. 291 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:51,020 I agreed with Jennifer that we could take a look and see where we would go 292 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:52,020 with the investigation. 293 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:53,600 Just give me a few days on this. 294 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,920 Thank you. 295 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,580 Detective Fitchett and his partner returned to the neighborhood in Hawula 296 00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:06,080 where Charlotte and Mark lived. 297 00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:13,930 He started knocking on neighbors' doors to try and see if anybody had been there 298 00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:15,590 back in the 1970s. 299 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:21,790 And we were very fortunate to find a neighbor that remembered these two 300 00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:24,450 people that lived in the residence at that time. 301 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:25,710 Can you tell me anything about them? 302 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:27,950 Yeah, they live right here, right next door. 303 00:25:28,150 --> 00:25:31,150 The relationship, he said, was kind of a volatile one. 304 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:32,950 They did get into arguments. 305 00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:35,190 There was a lot of yelling, a lot of fighting. 306 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:37,130 They weren't real friendly. 307 00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:39,630 So it's pretty odd. 308 00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:47,350 The investigative team starts tracking down anyone who was close to the couple 309 00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:48,350 back then. 310 00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:54,650 Jim Murray was the first person that we located in Gresham, Oregon. 311 00:25:55,430 --> 00:26:01,290 In 2005, Mark's friend from Hawaii, Jim Murray, gets an unexpected visit. 312 00:26:01,930 --> 00:26:02,930 Jim Murray? 313 00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:06,130 Yes. Do you mind if we ask you a few questions? 314 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:07,670 Sure. 315 00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:10,670 Jim and Mark have kept in touch over the years. 316 00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:14,830 But Jim doesn't know that Charlotte's case has been reopened. 317 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:20,890 It was really surprising. I had no idea that this was going on. 318 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:25,710 They told me that Mark was a suspect. 319 00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:27,370 Mark? 320 00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:32,230 That really upset me because I didn't believe it at all. 321 00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:34,670 He wasn't that kind of guy. 322 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,240 I was convinced that Mark didn't do this. 323 00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:43,320 It just wasn't in him. He's too mellow of a person. 324 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:49,720 He was adamant that Mark would never commit such a crime or hurt Charlotte in 325 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,680 any fashion, and especially an infant child. 326 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:54,540 And he really wanted to make sure that we understood that. 327 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,100 Jim's answers are later confirmed when he takes a polygraph test. 328 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,540 It actually never occurred to me that Mark was guilty of... 329 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Doing this really never entered my mind. 330 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:15,780 We decided that we would approach Mark based on what we knew and see if he'd be 331 00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:16,840 willing to talk with us. 332 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,760 Mark is still living in Northern California, and this is the first he's 333 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,940 heard anything about the case in years. 334 00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:32,260 I get a phone call from a cold case detective from the Honolulu Police 335 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:34,640 Department. It says he'd like to talk to me. 336 00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:37,180 It's tough to digest. 337 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,020 I mean, for Christ's sake. 338 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,980 Now I'm a suspect in murdering my girlfriend and my son. 339 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:48,540 What are you guys trying to do here? 340 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,040 It's an unsolved case, Mark. 341 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,930 When they indicated that they thought that I was... You know, the primary 342 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:06,890 suspect in this. I told him it's ridiculous. 343 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:11,230 I mean, I had no motive. 344 00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:13,190 Certainly wasn't for money. 345 00:28:13,870 --> 00:28:19,170 And if it was for getting custody of Marks, there's plenty of legal ways. 346 00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:25,670 He gave me the information. 347 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:29,610 Pretty much was consistent with the missing persons case. 348 00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:32,170 that he filed back in 1977. 349 00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:39,330 But investigators want to know why Mark waited three weeks to file a missing 350 00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:41,450 persons report for Charlotte and Mark. 351 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:48,290 He discussed the fact that she had been missing on several occasions previous to 352 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:52,210 this, and after a week or three or four days, she had come back. 353 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:54,290 You didn't find that worrisome? 354 00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:57,470 Sometimes she would just, you know, need to go. 355 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,940 She was gone for a couple days, and she'd come right back. 356 00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:10,600 They also inquire about witness reports of loud arguments between Mark and 357 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Charlotte. 358 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,300 He admitted to several arguments, but he felt it was not physically violent 359 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:19,300 towards her. 360 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:26,180 So after completing the interview and adamantly denying having any involvement 361 00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:30,580 in her disappearance physically, we asked him if he'd... participate in a 362 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:31,580 polygraph. 363 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,120 I said, sure. 364 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360 So they hooked me up to a lie detector. 365 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200 Have you ever lived in New Mexico? 366 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:44,660 Yeah. 367 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,700 They asked me all these rather inane and don't make any sense sort of questions, 368 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,420 you know, questions like, did you ever want to kill someone? 369 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:57,260 No. 370 00:29:58,510 --> 00:30:02,490 He's one of the few guys, you couldn't read him. Both of us had a hard time 371 00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:06,530 determining whether or not Mark was actually telling us the truth. 372 00:30:08,270 --> 00:30:10,210 But it's just, we didn't know. 373 00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:15,110 The polygrapher wanted to call the test inconclusive at that stage. 374 00:30:20,530 --> 00:30:24,870 Despite the lack of concrete evidence against Mark, Detective Fitchett 375 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,070 believes the case against him is strong. 376 00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:35,410 I met with the Honolulu Police homicide lieutenant, and he agreed to move it 377 00:30:35,410 --> 00:30:38,710 from a missing persons case to a homicide case. 378 00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:44,630 Investigators take a closer look at the property where Mark and Charlotte had 379 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:45,630 lived. 380 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:50,690 We ended up going back with the help of ground penetrating radar. 381 00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:57,030 We just felt that maybe he would dig a hole in the backyard under the cover of 382 00:30:57,030 --> 00:31:00,020 night. and bury the body there, or bodies there. 383 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,900 It took us a day and a half to dig this area. 384 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,500 We could not locate any type of human remains. 385 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,500 With the case at an impasse once more, all investigators can do is file Marks' 386 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,800 profile and age-progressed photo with the National Center for Missing and 387 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,800 Exploited Children. 388 00:31:25,220 --> 00:31:26,220 Mr. Barnes. 389 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,720 agreed to submit to a DNA process also. So that information was registered and 390 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,720 put on file. 391 00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:38,440 We had DNA from me and from my grandmother on file. 392 00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:42,720 We're still hoping, right, that something would come of this, even 393 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,940 though we hit a dead end. 394 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,780 For the next six years, Mark Barnes remains a suspect. 395 00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:58,830 though police have yet to find any incriminating evidence against him. 396 00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:04,590 So this is all building up and, you know, having the police come in and out 397 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,590 of my life. 398 00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:12,070 Unless you've been a suspect as a murderer, it's tough to digest. 399 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:17,510 And so that plays with you when you think, well, you know, are the police 400 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:22,190 going to pull up at the door and say, well, you're under arrest? 401 00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:25,730 You have that sort of anxiety all the time. 402 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:32,650 Then, in November 2011, comes the most stunning moment in this 34-year mystery. 403 00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:40,390 I got a call from the Honolulu Police Department saying that your 404 00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:41,530 son is alive. 405 00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:07,570 I got a call from the Honolulu Police Department, not long after I gave the 406 00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:08,770 last DNA samples. 407 00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:15,310 And they said, well, we have a match with your DNA 408 00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:19,330 to your son. Your son is alive. 409 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:27,310 I was elated. Can I talk to him? Can I see him? 410 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:30,630 And they won't tell me anything else. 411 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,660 My name is William Stevens Tenzin Carter. 412 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,940 Growing up, I never really had any questions about my lineage or where I 413 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,820 was from. I was adopted at three and a half. This is my family, and this is who 414 00:33:48,820 --> 00:33:49,820 I am. 415 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,460 Thirty-four-year-old Steve Carter knew he had lived in Hawaii until he was 416 00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:58,900 adopted, but he had very little information about his origins. 417 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,440 I didn't really start to contemplate my birth parents until I was in college. 418 00:34:04,990 --> 00:34:09,070 And didn't really want to do anything else until I started having children of 419 00:34:09,070 --> 00:34:10,070 my own. 420 00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:16,949 In the spring of 2011, Steve hears about an adopted woman who discovered her true 421 00:34:16,949 --> 00:34:20,750 identity through a website run by the National Center for Missing and 422 00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:21,750 Exploited Children. 423 00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:25,210 Kind of triggered my head to think, hey, go check it out. 424 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:31,230 It was at lunch that day that I shut my office door and went to the website, 425 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,370 missingkids.com. 426 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,260 And I actually entered the criteria. 427 00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:41,400 State, Hawaii, sex, male, and then how long you'd been missing. The top 428 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,960 response was Mark Barnes, who went missing at six months, had a birthday 429 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,880 very similar to mine, and the age regression photo they had was a lot like 430 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,880 looking in a mirror. 431 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:59,020 As soon as I saw the picture, I immediately copied and pasted and 432 00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:02,220 emailed to a number of different individuals saying, Hey, what do you 433 00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:03,320 think? Is this me? 434 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,880 Everybody was like, oh, yeah, that's you. 435 00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,560 Later that day, Steve calls the Honolulu Police Department. 436 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,080 They ask him to submit a DNA sample. 437 00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:24,200 The DNA sample confirmed that Stephen Carter was, in fact, the offspring 438 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,980 of Mark Barnes and Charlotte Moriarty. 439 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,220 It's a tremendous... 440 00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:34,420 Emotional feeling for me, locating this infant after all of these years. 441 00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:40,400 I never in my wildest dreams thought I would ever have a result like this after 442 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,800 30 plus years. 443 00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:53,600 After Steve's parents adopted him in Hawaii, the new family moved to an 444 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,260 affluent town in New Jersey, where he grew up. 445 00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:00,500 I was so lucky to have these parents. 446 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,300 My reaction to finding out that I was Mark's Panama was a difficult one. 447 00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:12,580 You know, you grow up a good portion of your life believing one thing, and then 448 00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:17,600 to come to realize that there's been a family out there looking for you, it's 449 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,600 tough. 450 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:29,280 When Steve gets the DNA test confirming he is Mark's Barnes, He calls Mark. 451 00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:31,620 Hello, is this Mark? 452 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:34,860 Yes. 453 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,260 The conversation I first had with Mark was probably one of my more difficult 454 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:42,260 ones. 455 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,860 And I introduced myself, and the first thing Mark said to me was, how's your 456 00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:48,860 mother? 457 00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:52,880 Mark was very shocked that Charlotte wasn't with me. 458 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,520 I... truly believed that they were just living the family life. 459 00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:06,140 I was absolutely floored. 460 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,960 In New Mexico, Steve's half-sister Jennifer gets the news that her little 461 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,040 brother is alive. 462 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:21,960 When I heard that Mark was found, that it was Mark, I went into shock. 463 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,400 I never imagined that. 464 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:30,370 they would find Mark alive and living a really nice life. 465 00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:35,090 He's extremely happy and well-adjusted. 466 00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:36,950 It's just incredible. 467 00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:44,570 Steve provides police with a key piece of the puzzle, his birth certificate 468 00:37:44,570 --> 00:37:49,290 from the orphanage in Honolulu, where his name is listed as Tenzin Ame. 469 00:37:52,850 --> 00:37:57,730 Detective Fitchett is now able to trace back Charlotte Moriarty's steps on the 470 00:37:57,730 --> 00:37:58,930 day she and Mark disappeared. 471 00:38:03,550 --> 00:38:09,190 Looking through records at HPD, I was able to determine that Charlotte left 472 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:14,170 Mark that day, left the stroller, went riding on the bus, 473 00:38:14,350 --> 00:38:19,370 somehow turned up on the other side of the island. 474 00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:28,130 On June 22, 1977, the day after Charlotte and Mark disappeared, a woman 475 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:33,050 now believed to be Charlotte shows up at a stranger's house carrying an infant. 476 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:42,890 Based on the police report, this person was Caucasian but gave a Japanese name, 477 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:50,030 identified the baby as a female, and asked the homeowner for milk and a 478 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:51,030 diaper change. 479 00:38:55,150 --> 00:38:58,870 The homeowner, alarmed by the woman's state, called the police. 480 00:39:00,470 --> 00:39:03,110 So this is where things get really crazy. 481 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:08,190 My mother gives a false name. She says her name is Jane Amay. 482 00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:13,190 She gives a false name to Steve. She says his name is Tenzin Amay. 483 00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:16,970 They felt that she was in need of mental help. 484 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,080 So he escorted the female to the Hawaii State Hospital for psychiatric 485 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,080 evaluation. 486 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:31,780 They admit Jaina May, and they take the child into protective custody. 487 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:37,980 I don't know why she gave false information. To me, it seems like she 488 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:43,720 wanted to hide her child for some reason, maybe knowing that she would 489 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,240 come back for him. 490 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,770 According to the police report, Jaina May remains at the hospital for five 491 00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:55,550 days, where a social worker tries to reunite her with her baby. 492 00:39:57,590 --> 00:40:01,250 The social worker had come to say, you know what, we want you back with your 493 00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:02,270 child, here's the address. 494 00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:08,010 And then Jaina May leaves, against medical advice, into the night. 495 00:40:08,330 --> 00:40:09,450 They don't know where she went. 496 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:12,330 There's just no trace of her after that. 497 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:17,630 I can't see Charlotte. 498 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,920 Giving Mark's club. I mean, I truly believe that she would have kept him as 499 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,100 tight as she possibly could. 500 00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:30,040 But evidently, she must have had some sort of psychological break. 501 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,220 She just lost it. 502 00:40:44,540 --> 00:40:46,580 I don't have any animosity towards Charlotte. 503 00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:51,890 Nor would I have any mother or father who gives a child up for adoption. 504 00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:59,990 If she found it better to move on and do something else, I don't blame her for 505 00:40:59,990 --> 00:41:00,990 it. 506 00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:03,970 I've had a pretty amazing life. 507 00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:10,850 Now I've just got a larger family, a family that I'd like to spend more time 508 00:41:10,850 --> 00:41:11,850 with. 509 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:18,080 To this point, I've met my half-fistered... Jennifer twice. 510 00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,120 Feeding Jennifer is amazing. 511 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,480 Growing up your entire life thinking you're an only child and finally find 512 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,700 somebody who is related to you. 513 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160 I feel a deep connection to him. 514 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:41,160 You know, he's like my little brother, you know, who has been through a lot. 515 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:45,800 But Steve has yet to meet his biological father, Mark. 516 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,820 I'm fearful to bring everybody together too quickly. 517 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:52,780 I've talked to him on the phone a handful of times. 518 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:55,000 We've exchanged letters and texts. 519 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:01,080 I would say that I'm ready to meet Mark very soon. 520 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,280 I would love to, just to be able to see him. 521 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,780 Hopefully, at some point, when he's ready, we'll get together. 522 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,480 Since Steve's identification in 2011, there have been no additional leads in 523 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,480 Charlotte's case. 524 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,000 I can't really leave New Mexico because even though it's 40 years on, there's a 525 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,900 part of me that still thinks that she'll come back for me. 526 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:40,980 I have things out that remind me of my mother. 527 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,860 It feels extremely safe and very comforting. 528 00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:50,750 And I feel that she's with me. 529 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:02,470 I still wonder every day about Charlotte. 530 00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:10,790 If Charlotte ever shows up, which I'm almost positive she will at some point. 531 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,680 What would I ask her? Well, you would have to take a legal pad, divide it into 532 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,640 four different columns, number them down. I have that many questions to ask. 533 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,540 I miss her a lot. 534 00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:29,660 I miss her presence. 535 00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,960 I know she's out there somewhere. I just can't find her. 536 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:37,960 Hopefully she'll find me. 45893

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