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I remember the first time
that I got on a motorbike
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I just had this incredible sense
that I could go anywhere
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do anything and you just want to
ride and ride and ride.
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If I have a bad day,
I go ride my motorbike,
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if I'm pissed off,
I go ride my motorbike,
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if I'm happy and it's a great day, I go
ride my motorbike.
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I think motorcycles are
the most interesting
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and curious
mechanical phenomenon
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because you straddle it, you ride it,
it's a very intimate experience.
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There's nothing like it. I think it
just makes the relationship
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with this machine, this curious kind of
miracle of physics that is a motorcycle.
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It makes that relationship a lot deeper.
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It gets into your blood
in a very real way
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but it literally becomes
part of who you are
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as a human being and
it starts to change you
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and I think it changes
people for the better.
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When you can sit in a room with people who
have devoted this much of their life
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to it and look at what they're doing,
you know they've got a screw loose
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and they've got the same
loose screw that I have.
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When you're truly
addicted to riding bikes,
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like I am,
you can't have a bike in the
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garage and not ride it. I'm not even
making the decision to be able to ride.
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If there's a bike there, I'm already gone.
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From a logical point of view,
there is no reason for a motorcycle
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and yet we have these
infernal contraptions
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which are difficult,
uncomfortable, dangerous
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and we're fascinated with them.
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That's what I connect to now,
that's what I feel passionate about,
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that's what gets me up every morning and
keeps me up late at night.
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This two wheeled transport device
that is the closest thing to flying.
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It really is.
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A custom motorcycle
really is a piece of
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mechanical art in the
way that a car isn't
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because you look at a car, everything is
hidden, it's a body and four wheels.
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A motorcycle, you can see it.
You can see the engine,
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everything is on display so that's a form
of art really and doing the custom thing
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kind of amplifies that art.
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There aren't many ways to express
who you are these days you know
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it's an era of mass production.
Everybody had the same phone,
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everybody had the same car. You know,
you live in a shoe box in a suburb.
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But a bike is saying 'this is who I
am, this is me as an individual'.
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So this bike here, that was found
in somebody's front garden.
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It was the perfect
example of what we could
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take and turn into
this bike over here.
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The whole point is
to work on your own
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thing and make it
individual to yourself
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and not have something
that everyone else has got,
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to have your character stamped
on something you've built.
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Yeah there's bits that
I've had to make for it.
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There's some Heath
Robinson stuff on there.
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It doesn't function perfectly, it's not
the quickest bike in the world
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but it's my bike.
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Having something unique is far cooler
than having a mass-produced motorcycle.
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Apparently.
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It's about individuality and
going into a Triumph dealership,
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a Ducati or Harley dealership,
and saying 'l want mine a bit like that'
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it gives about as much individuality as
getting a different colour phone case
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for your iPhone, your generic iPhone.
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I love seeing people doing stuff
that no-one's seen before.
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Good or bad, you just make the craziest
thing you can think of every time around.
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You know, like when people
just go way outside the box.
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Just throw the rule book out.
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What we don't have enough of
is actual real individuals
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and I think someone like David from
El Solitario is a great example
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of someone who genuinely
is a fucking individual.
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I love David as a human being,
he can be a total asshole
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you know, but I love him to death.
He's so genuine.
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He's definitely put himself
out there as far as bikes go.
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His most hated bike was also, I think,
his most publicised bike by far.
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That BMW Nine T, you know.
The thing looks like a shopping cart but
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it photographed so awesome
and it had so much vibe to it.
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When Paul designated this formula,
I know the world's most hated
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motorcycle I found it really funny so I
adopted it because it just made fun of it.
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It took some of my grief out.
We were a tiny company and suddenly
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this huge monster calls us and says
‘hey we want to do a motorcycle with you,
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we're going to pay you, you have creative
freedom'. I wanted to make them proud.
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I thought everybody was going to love it.
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I never in my life thought
everybody would hate it.
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But I also understood, I knew enough that
I had done something really amazing.
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I just embraced my personality and
tried to make a company out of it and
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that's like a myth buster and I can...
OK let's fuck it up.
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I think it's defined very much more
by the rider than the bike itself.
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Everyone seems to be
riding different bikes,
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their interests go
off in different areas
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where there's some into choppers,
some into flat tracker, some into racing
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is that it's much more of a level playing
field. It's less about money and budget
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and what you can afford
and what you can do.
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The people who have spent
their time doing stuff,
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learning stuff, researching
stuff, living motorcycling.
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Today if you look at really
what's happening in New York,
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it's a bunch of $500 Hondas.
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They throw the seat away and put a plank
of wood on there that's this size
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and that's a custom bike. It's like
'yvou go for it dude' and if that's who's
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riding by then he's using his
bike, that's cool.
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I like the fact that people actually...
they'll buy a motorcycle and cut it up
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and do something and people are always
asking 'how do you get started?' and
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dude, just make the cut
and then you've started.
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Breathing life back into a dead
engine is creativity by essence.
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You breathe life back, you created
life where there was no more life.
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I didn't expect it
to be a culture that
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had so much depth on
the engineering side
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and the artistry
and the community.
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I think that trifecta
is very relevant today.
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It's like it doesn't matter if you're a
race bike guy or a drag bike guy
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or a street bike guy.
Nobody judges.
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Or some people do but
who cares about them.
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It's cool when people,
they do what they want
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and that's when the
purest stuff comes out.
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This cool thing that's happening, I think
we're just really lucky to be around it
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while it's actually happening.
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The motorcycling world is becoming like
an estuary where it's all mixing and
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I think all these cultures
are coming together
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and there's going to
be a lot of clashing
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and a lot of people
are going to hate that
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that's happening get over
it, it's happening.
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The motorcycle world is
changing and honestly
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I think it's changing
for the better.
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The new, sort of, custom scene
has empowered a lot of people,
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it's democratised people to feel
like they can make a motorcycle
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which is huge because, from the 90s
onwards, motorcycles had become appliances
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they'd become so good, you didn't need
to know how to do anything because
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there was nothing to do.
If it broke, you couldn't fix it anyway.
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If you want to call it a new wave scene,
then fine but I would just call it
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an evolution of motorcycling.
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Originally it was a conversation that John
Copeland had with Jeffrey Shad.
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There wasn't really
a show that showcased
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builders in the aesthetic
quality that they appreciated.
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So just giving a platform and opportunity
to have people show off their work.
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It's the invitational because we go out of
our way to invite someone to showcase
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something that they've created,
that we really appreciate.
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I think good work speaks for itself and
it doesn't need to be a certain style,
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a certain era, a certain period, you
know, amazing work is amazing work
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no matter what kind of bike it is.
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A lot of people ask that we should get
a bigger space, more bike and what not
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but I think it's good to have that small
amount of bikes, more exclusive,
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and also you get to spend more time
with each bike to just enjoy.
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We want to kind of create the event
that we can bridge those gaps,
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celebrate the whole
culture of motorcycles.
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You'll see your
Fortune 500 CEO sitting
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right next to a
Hell's Angel guy and
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both of them are
appreciating the same thing.
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I mean, I never see them
in any other context
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other than that, things like these shows,
like the invitational, do that.
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It just forces people to participate
in each other's world.
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But there's no awards. There's no
1st place, 2nd place, 3rd place.
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That's another
thing that's cool.
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You can't really judge these
bikes against each other.
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Because they're all so different
so to me just being on the list and
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having that recognition is just enough.
It's all you really want. It's cool.
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I think motorcycles themselves
are counter-cultural.
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They're intimidating, they're aggressive,
they're fast, they're dangerous.
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Ever since the first bike came, someone
wanted to pull it apart, individualise it,
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make it faster, tweak it, and
put their own personality into it.
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Motorcycles are cool, they've always been
cool and if you had been alive in 1910,
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you would have thought
motorcycles were cool
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because they were
cool and guess what?
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they still are cool.
We're on this little
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tip of the present
and there's 150 years
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of interesting stuff that's every bit
as cool as what's happening today.
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There's a history of bike that you
need to understand and be aware of
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but at the end of the day, you're a free
person, you can do whatever you want.
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But I think you need an understanding of
what's gone on before you in some respect
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and then you can make a
judgement call on certain things
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but if you just ignore
everything, you're just a prick.
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The historical roots in this, you could go
back to after the second world war
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in America where all
the soldiers came back
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and they chopped up
Harleys and that's
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where the bobber scene came from.
In the UK it was from the 60s,
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from the Cafe Racers, the Ton Up boys,
trying to make their bikes lighter.
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It wasn't about aesthetics then, it was
making it as fast as possible.
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It was back in the 50s/60s where, when
there was no surf going on in California
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they would get on their Triumphs and BSAs
and Nortons and head off into the hills
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so that culture moved on and then changing
their bikes, adapting their bikes.
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In the late 50s,
California motorcycle clubs,
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especially started to
alter their motorcycles
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to make them lighter and longer and more
elegant and eventually these became
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painted wildly and
chromed as the 50s went
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into the 60s they began
to alter the frames
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and they became choppers
by the early 1960s
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as we know them.
And the ultimate expression
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of the chopper were the bikes
that you see in Easy Rider.
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Exposure on television in the early
2000s really grew the awareness
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for the general public to custom bikes.
The Jesse James stuff,
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Orange County Choppers,
and people like that but 2008,
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economic depression, and
killed a lot of the custom bike world.
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You know, same thing with us, I mean at
a point, we're building huge ZX14 or
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a Busa stretched thing,
they're expensive
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machines and then
the market collapses,
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I remember the photo shoot we were on when
the market collapsed. It was a reset.
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Customs had become kind of
grotesque and then the reset happens
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and you have a $1000 motorcycle
with $500 worth of money put into it
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from a guy who just
learned how to weld two
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weeks ago and you're
looking at it going
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... it's compelling. It may not ride
for shit but it's a cool looking bike.
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It seems like 2008 was the
year, there was the big crash,
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everybody had all those big bikes
and they couldn't sell them.
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And it took the whole industry back
to square one and I think it made a lot
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of us re-think what we were doing, what
was important, not to be corny but
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I think it brought back
the soul of motorcycling.
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People were buying cheap Japanese
bikes 300/500, whatever the money was
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and making that vehicle your own because
you would do it still in an affordable way
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something that was unique. And that
was, you know, a wake up call for me.
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It was a wake-up call
for the whole company.
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So Analog Motorcycles started in 2008.
I built a custom bike was kind of um...
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on a whim. Did it. After the bike
was done it got a lot of press.
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Started getting people randomly, all over
the country, asking me to build a custom.
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It started to take off, build steam, then
in 2013 I started to quit my day job
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and go full time and I
haven't looked back.
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I grew up riding on the back of my
dad's Vincent and he grew up riding
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on the back of his dad's Vincent. So
there's quite, family influences there.
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I lost my bike license
through speeding so if I
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couldn't ride a bike I
thought I'd build one.
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I spent a few years as a flaming alcoholic
and when I got through all of that
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I started working a lot to keep my mind
away from that so maybe I just transferred
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one actual addiction to a new
one, I don't know.
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I was in the foreign service for many
years and built motorcycles on the side
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as a second job. I usually started my
evening at 7 o'clock in the workshop
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and I worked until midnight, 1 o'clock
in the morning. Over time it just
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became the focus of my life and now the
last 12 years it's a full time business.
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Yeah I started out mainly in advertising,
I was in a big agency in Richmond
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Virginia for about 11 years. I got laid
off. They came and told me and everything
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kind of went in slow motion for a second
and like, oh I'm getting laid off.
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But at the same time I felt like it was
actually liberating. I'm not going to
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go back to advertising and do that stuff
when I could start building motorcycles
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‘cause I'd already been
doing it for a while.
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I had a great job with a start-up company
doing really cool work, getting patents,
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designing the coolest stuff with
all the resources I could ever want,
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an engineers dream job, with a great
group of guys and I was like, nah,
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I'm going to leave, I'm going to move to
Texas, I'm going to start a
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motorcycle shop and they're like
'you're nuts, you're out of your mind,
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you're destined to be broke for
the rest of your life' which so far
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is not that far off.
And I'm saying ‘no come be a broke dick
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with me, let's have nothing.'
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I didn't even get into motorcycles,
I didn't have a choice.
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My whole family in Lebanon/Syria were
metal workers, tinsmiths and mechanics
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and when they came here, they brought
tools. My father had 60/70 bikes
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in the yard. I was 15, 16 where he told
me 'if you can fix one of those bikes
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in the back, you can have it'.
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I worked for a large bank for 6 years,
I was a manager there and I definitely
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could have continued my career in
the bank but it just wasn't me.
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We could feel that there was something
going on, when we did the blogging,
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we see the number of visitors just...
so I think it was more accidental
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that we just happened to do that
at the time when other people got
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more or less the same idea.
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Wheels & Waves started as
the Southsiders anniversary.
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There was a party, they did in
Toulouse, and we were like, 20 guys
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then the idea of making a bigger, better
show, more happening in Vincent's brain
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and the Southsiders with Jerome. One
summer we said, OK we're going to do it.
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We're going to do this event,
it's going to be called Wheels & Waves.
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It was about bringing everything
that is cool about motorcycles
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without looking at the different scenes
as independent entities.
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It was something that had
never been done before.
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We just, from a profound love of
motorcycles, especially Vincent
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ahead of it, of the movement, he wanted
to build a really inclusive event.
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This is really bigger than us. This is
much bigger than us and there is
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not one Wheels & Waves, there are
thousands of Wheels & Waves.
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It just depends of what yours
looks like. Wheels & Waves now is
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just an excuse for motorcycle freaks
to travel, take a week off work,
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and ride with your buddies.
That's the thing.
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Yeah that's the thing, you live it.
You're not just a spectator,
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you're an actor of the events. The surfing
competition, the punk's peak competition,
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the dirt track competition, the
ridings with the people, even the
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hanging out in the city with your
bikers, your crew. You are part of
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it and you're there. I don't know so
many of us that have the same spirit.
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For me we are in the middle of what
motorcycles should look like.
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That's what's so cool
about this place.
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Anything goes and the
rules are very loose.
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And that's what's so inspiring.
People take whatever they find and
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they build a cool custom out of it.
It's not all about money and
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it's just a totally different thing. And
people ride it here. Everyone is riding.
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The very cool thing about flat track
racing is that you can't go
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to a factory and say 'can I have a dirt
track bike' 'cause it doesn't exist.
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You have to build it and
after that you can race.
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So that's why the custom scene,
building the bikes, and racing,
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that's why I think they are, be the same.
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It's like family but
it's racing on a track.
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There is no bad elbow,
everything is fine.
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Everybody is a friend but on the track
everybody is on the gas.
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I mean, what's the first thing
you do when you're a kid?
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You either try and wheelie a bike,
jump a bike or skid a bike.
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So if you're just going around skidding
all day, what could be more fun?
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On one hand we have the industry, I
think they were lost. It's got to a point
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where it wasn't relevant any more, for
the customers and in the other hand,
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we have this custom scene which
is full of talent and I think we speak
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the language,
the new language they need to speak.
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It really is a case of the people have
spoken. Something that's more accessible,
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more stylish, literally going
down to the nearest cafe
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and back is what people want.
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The barrier to entry
is so low in terms of
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cost which is perhaps
where it all started.
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The social barrier to
entry is lower. You
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don't need to feel scared
turning up at a big
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biker event where everyone is going
to expect you to do a wheelie.
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One of the things I like about motorcycles
and always have liked about motorcycles
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is that they're very democratic. And yes
you can buy expensive motorcycles,
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but you can buy a cheap
motorcycle and you can have a go.
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You know, you can pick a 125 on eBay
for 400 quid, do your own little mods,
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and rock around town and be
very proud of it. That's great.
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What excites me personally and our
team is young people just getting in
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and getting their hands
dirty and making stuff.
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Creating their own personal expression
and that becomes a snowball, right.
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There's only a couple of thousand
people in the world who are customising
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motorcycles now. But their visibility
and the number of people interested
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in seeing that, is huge so the ripple
effect is where the big impact is.
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I think the blog was initially the
biggest thing - Bike Shed, Bike EXIF,
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Pipeburn all those sorts of things.
People then can really start following
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what other people are up to
and there's normally a story
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with all the pictures and then when
there was an opportunity for an event
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to come on, and people could
see these bikes in the flesh.
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Yeah my name's Thor and honestly,
I don't know how I got here.
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Time travelling. No, I run The One
Motorcycle Show, just a hobby
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gone wild.
It just got away from me a little.
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It would be hard for me to say that I
started a movement because
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it could have just been everybody
was ready for something different.
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What I was doing was counter to
everything that I'd experienced.
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I didn't want to be like anybody else.
I didn't want to battle with other shows.
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I didn't want to take
their customers, I
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wanted to create something
new and different.
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So everything that we've done,
we've done it the hard way.
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Because it's counter, and make something
that people say like 'wow, it's free'.
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Nothing's free any more. And then they say
'why don't you charge?' and then
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the right people will come and I
say 'that defeats the purpose of
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having the show, to get everybody to
come' and definitely the biggest part
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of it is we look towards
the sponsorships for
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covering the costs of
putting on the show.
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Harley Davidson and BMW have
been huge supporters of the show
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and Icon since day one.
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There's dirt bikes and there's race bikes
and there's just hardcore choppers
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all together in one show.
To me that's the brilliant part
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of the One Show because as a
motorcyclist, I do all those things
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and to be able to see all those
communities come together
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at One Show is really
quite remarkable.
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But the One Show for sure is still a
place where your $1500 build
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commands respect for
exactly what it is.
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Every builder that's got a bike in there,
I can't promise them anything.
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They haven't paid any money to enter
the bike,they've come from all over
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the world. A lot of people spending a lot
of money to get here and I can't
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say that they're going to have world
fame for it but you've just got to show up
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and see what happens.
Be part of it.
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The one thing about the One Show
is that it's not a single bike show.
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It's putting the custom umbrella
over ever sort of custom
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and by casting that big net, you basically
put a big spotlight up to anybody
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that was doing a custom bike. Got
everyone's attention to it and that's
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what has allowed it to grow.
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We have put on a few races
and many of the races for fun.
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It's just part of human nature to
like race so the only thing that will
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kind of sustain itself for a long
time is racing and then I clearly
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saw the whole picture from the person
who's never raced to the future of racing.
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Taking the race crowd and putting them in
a setting like this is kind of interesting
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and the taking the guys that know about
choppers and bring them down the races
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and the two work together. Two wheels
and a motor and it's the same thing.
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There wasn't, I mean in '08 I think
Facebook was around but there
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really wasn't a lot of digital
media or social media starting out.
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When it started to pick up,
we jumped on right away.
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It was actually the first guy I hired,
a guy that was a photographer that
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took care of our social media.
That, for most people, is our marketing.
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That's the window that the world
sees into Analog Motorcycles.
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You can build something, put it online and
270,000 people reached, boom.
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And that's amazing. Years ago you
couldn't do something like that.
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You needed a TV show,
you needed to be in
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magazines for years to
have people see your work.
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When I got into it, two magazines
were coming out once a month
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with 3 or 4 bike features in it and
it's almost like they delegated what
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was cool and what was not.
They were deciding what was
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the motorcycle industry custom-wise.
And now what we're seeing is
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we're in control of
the whole thing really.
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You know, now anybody who put their
name out there, people can see it.
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And if you do good work, people want
to see it so they start following you
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and shit. It's not the guy with the
huge name who always has the upper hand.
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We as consumers of this information,
consumers of this content, are getting
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things instantly. You can see what I made
20 minutes ago and I can walk you around
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it live on the internet. I don't know if
something's lost or something's gained.
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It goes one way or another, 10 minutes
later you've got to do something new.
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The longevity of custom bikes online
can be surprisingly short. 24 / 48 hours.
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For something that could've taken a year
to build, that's a really short life.
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OK I saw that yesterday, what's out
there today? And that's 3 years
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of a man's life you looked at yesterday.
What do you mean what have you got now?
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People come out and they're Instagram,
they're Insta-famous. They get all this
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going and then the business comes
after the fame, you know what I mean?
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I think we need to be careful and
not let the internet or the social media
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kind of start drowning out the
camaraderie and the coolness
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of what the culture actually is.
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So it's so easy to criticise when you
do nothing. Actually the people who make
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never criticise. They respect the fact that
you made. The haters will be haters forever.
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We don't give a fuck. We know who we are,
where we come from, where we want to go.
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Yeah we get builders who are clearly
at their wits end and they've been working
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their arses off for like, 12 months on a
bike and you'll get some peanut gallery
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blow hard who will just leave a
really pithy one sentence remark
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and yeah, builders will crumble at that.
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And they like nothing better than
getting you to engage them
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‘cause no matter what, you're going
to come out looking like an asshole.
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There's been so many times I've wanted
to just go right for the jugular and
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be like, 'listen it might have been a
bad weld but your girlfriend's fat'.
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You know, 'l checked out your page' and
I've been dying to say that for so long,
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something like that. But at the end of
the day, I look around me and
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I get to do this for a living so if I'm
going to have the occasional people online
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telling me that I'm an idiot and I
can't weld, and I suck at
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building motorcycles,
I can live with that.
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If you do say why you don't like it, give
the alternative, like it could be this
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but criticism, not just being negative
because you're not really helping
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by being negative. But yeah, whatever.
People are mean.
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I've had death threats. There was one guy
who emailed, 'you fucking faggot,
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will you stop showing
these fucking gay bikes,
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I'm going to come ‘round to your
fucking house and kill you'.
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My biggest problem is people on Instagram
don't do anything other than Instagram.
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They'll look at it and they won't
even read the text that says
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the thing they're asking.
They'll just post up the question.
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‘What bike is that?'
It says right there, it's a BMW R100.
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Like, it's not that hard!
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The American magazine Cycle World,
they do events marketing so the big
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opportunity they see is running
motorcycle shows. People paying
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$10/$20 to get though the door in a show.
And that's why people like Revival
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who are really smart because they figured
that out, and the Bike Shed as well
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so the event really is a gold mine.
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I'm Vikki van Someren, the queen of
fucking everything and I run the Bike Shed
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for London, Paris,
Milan and the rest of the world.
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We were sat in a pub and we were
about to go to a bike show and
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we were all having that Carlsberg moment
when you sit there and say, you know,
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what if we put on a show? And a week
later, my husband booked a venue
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I think because, as bikers, we were
tired of the same old trade format.
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You know, the rubbish food, the Lycra
girls and we wanted something that was
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more reflective of us as individuals.
You know, when you look around
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this is everybody's individual style
through their motorcycle.
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00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:36,170
So Bike Shed One was a punt,
it was an idea. We ran the show for free,
426
00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:42,100
we had two arches in Shoreditch and
70 bikes if I remember correctly.
427
00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:48,732
It was very much a pop-up, amateur
vibe to it. But 3,000 people turned up.
428
00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:54,401
That summer of 2012,
the whole scene suddenly found its voice
429
00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:58,154
and started to feel like something
tangible. We were trying to do something
430
00:33:58,244 --> 00:34:02,238
that was the opposite of a trade
fair. It needed to be a destination,
431
00:34:02,331 --> 00:34:05,995
a place worth going. It needed to be about
the creative side of motorcycle culture.
432
00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:10,833
There's people come here to check out
the latest build from XYZ builder,
433
00:34:10,923 --> 00:34:16,293
but there's a lot of people come here just
to gain inspiration and see what someone
434
00:34:16,387 --> 00:34:19,175
else did in their shed or garage
or workshop and think well I can
435
00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:22,508
go away and I'm going to do that
myself and maybe come back next year
436
00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:26,596
and enter my bike into a show. Or people
just want to come and have a look at
437
00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:31,768
beautiful things, beautiful engineering
and I think here you've got it in spades.
438
00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:37,364
I think this is far more about style.
There's decent food, there's decent
439
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:40,943
drink, things to look at.
It's a nice experience.
440
00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,450
In fact, you'd have a nice experience
here even if you weren't a biker.
441
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,829
It's really important for us.
It's important because
442
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,414
it's the first contact point with
our customer, this kind of customer.
443
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,342
Because we can learn, we can
talk with these people you know
444
00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:00,966
and we can go back in the
office with more and more ideas
445
00:35:01,224 --> 00:35:02,589
of what to do in the future.
446
00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:06,009
We only do the show so people
can come and see what we do and
447
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,893
when they see the finish on the bikes,
that's when the builds start to come in.
448
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:13,024
We sold six bikes in six days. Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
449
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:17,730
then one on the following Monday.
£16,500 a piece so yeah they saw
450
00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:21,488
our work at a show, they come and have
a look at what we do, and that's it.
451
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:28,370
Events like this allow people to take
innovative leaps because they just feed
452
00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:32,043
off each other. Because as soon as
somebody does something really innovative,
453
00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:37,040
and everyone sees it, the whole
movement steps forward.
454
00:35:38,302 --> 00:35:43,092
We got a project with Stuart Garner, CEO
at Norton and I was up there one day
455
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:47,305
talking bikes with him, and just chewing
the fat really and having a laugh
456
00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:53,482
and I said, 'l'd really like to build a
bike' and his term, without swearing, was
457
00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:55,150
'OK f*** off and do it'.
458
00:35:56,445 --> 00:36:00,313
It's a Norton Commando 961 stock road
bike, that's the base bike
459
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:04,575
and it's been quite modified.
You're always a little bit nervous when
460
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,738
you come up with a design for a bike
and you build something, you know,
461
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:11,041
you've invested a lot of time and
money and you want people to love it.
462
00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:17,126
It's kind of a re-creation of a world
famous flat track bike from the 70s
463
00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:22,093
designed by Ron Woods who kind of
revolutionised flat track racing.
464
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,975
We have all this technology now,
we have amazing motorcycles,
465
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:36,141
amazing electronics,
difficult to crash,
466
00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:39,110
reliable,
everything you could want really.
467
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,438
You know, the benefit to
progress and civilisation
468
00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:44,111
and we're really saying
‘no, we don't want that.'
469
00:36:44,952 --> 00:36:49,037
There are entirely too many people
in my opinion, that are completely
470
00:36:49,123 --> 00:36:52,866
removed from how the things
are made that they own.
471
00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,082
And I wasn't raised that way.
I was raised in a home where
472
00:36:56,172 --> 00:37:00,632
we typically fixed what broke.
We didn't hire a repair man
473
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,125
when the dishwasher went down.
474
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,963
So much of the physical world
these days just exists
475
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:09,516
and we don't think about that at all.
Where in reality, every single thing
476
00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:12,890
that exists, had to be created.
It had to be put together.
477
00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:15,017
Somebody made this thing.
478
00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:19,734
There's this kind of re-appropriation
of the making process and therefore
479
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:22,020
I assume, I presume the
respect of the makers.
480
00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,028
A few years ago, there was a
small amount of people
481
00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:29,281
a small demographic that were
interested in craftsmanship
482
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:32,660
or the hand made thing. All of a
sudden, there's a lot more
483
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,617
people interested in the
sort of things that I do.
484
00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,875
Yeah everybody that I've ever
learned anything from
485
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:46,303
were 50... 60... 70... 80 years old.
It takes a certain amount of money
486
00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:53,307
and quality and dedication that I
have to have in order to put
487
00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,354
my company stamp on it.
It's a little sculpture
488
00:37:56,816 --> 00:38:02,983
by the time I'm done and I love that
but if somebody just wants me to
489
00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:06,110
put some shit ball logo on there,
I'm not going to do it.
490
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:09,276
And so much effort and time
learning how to do this,
491
00:38:10,246 --> 00:38:12,533
I'm not just going to throw
it away on some pile of shit.
492
00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:16,411
If you start off with shit, it's just
going to be a fancy piece of shit
493
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:17,370
in the end.
494
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,208
There's an element of taking
the power back by doing it
495
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,381
yourself, doing it on a budget,
not being given what the big
496
00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:24,832
companies are selling you.
497
00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:28,757
The kind of people I'm getting
coming to me are guys who are
498
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:32,512
tech guys who just want to do something.
They just want to make something.
499
00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:36,686
And they don't get that from their job
or from daily life or whatever so
500
00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:40,140
they do it on a bike... and I can see
there's tonnes of people like that.
501
00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:45,361
The feeling you get when you've
built something or even had a go
502
00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:48,611
at building it, even if you buy
parts or if you bolt on a part
503
00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:50,616
you bought, there's still
satisfaction in that.
504
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,330
It's just nice to be given one
small problem that might take
505
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:59,455
a while to overcome and if you overcome
that, you're good for the day.
506
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:02,955
And it's even bigger, this feeling,
when you build it by yourself
507
00:39:03,049 --> 00:39:06,963
because you know it by heart. It's not
just an object, it's a living object.
508
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,928
I've followed everything on
YouTube and I've got my manual,
509
00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:13,223
I know exactly what I'm doing.
My caliper is perfect.
510
00:39:13,642 --> 00:39:17,306
And I get out on the A12, have to stop
and I go smack into the back of a car.
511
00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:20,930
The older and rarer the bike,
the more I'm intrigued.
512
00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:25,818
Figuring out the sources, there's these
old brown papers that have been crumpled
513
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:27,942
up for years that are
in the back of a manual.
514
00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:31,320
You know, I just geek out on it.
I really love it.
515
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:36,534
Any of the old bikes, they just
feel different. You can hear them,
516
00:39:36,707 --> 00:39:40,166
you can feel the motor, it just
feels like you're part of it.
517
00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:42,205
Almost like you're on a trip
with a good friend.
518
00:39:42,296 --> 00:39:45,163
Like it doesn't matter, even if
they're being a pain in the ass
519
00:39:45,257 --> 00:39:48,170
that day you still know you'd
rather be on the trip with them.
520
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,381
Old bikes you can fix with two
wrenches on the side of the road
521
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:54,055
and go on about your business.
New bikes you've got to call
522
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,718
somebody so they can put a
computer box in there, you know.
523
00:39:58,062 --> 00:40:00,804
People talk about old bikes like
they're unreliable you know,
524
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:03,265
but it's like 'no, I can fix it'
and keep going.
525
00:40:03,859 --> 00:40:07,898
You definitely have to educate
your customer on the reality of
526
00:40:07,988 --> 00:40:11,106
what they're asking for. They want
something, they go into their garage,
527
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,862
and they push a button and it
starts every time and it's low
528
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:18,993
maintenance. Is it going to be a
world war 2 era knucklehead? No.
529
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,912
If you're going to spend
£20k customising a bike,
530
00:40:22,837 --> 00:40:25,044
do you want it to be
worth £20k at the end?
531
00:40:25,464 --> 00:40:29,799
Because if so, you need to
start with a Ducati or a Harley
532
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:33,219
or something else that's got
a bit of quality about it that's
533
00:40:33,305 --> 00:40:37,390
got some perceived value because
we know from experience
534
00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:39,888
that you can spend as much as you
want but when you come to sell a bike,
535
00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:43,062
If it's a CX500, they'll only pay
what a CX500's worth
536
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:46,141
and their argument will
be, but it's a CX500.
537
00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:50,232
So we start always on older
bikes, from the inside out.
538
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:53,072
On newer bikes, we can just
go from the outside in.
539
00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,695
We don't need to take
them totally apart.
540
00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:20,550
It's the amount of bikes I've seen that
have got Ohlins shocks and this and that
541
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:24,387
and they've spent thousands of
pounds putting all this race
542
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:29,898
kit on a 750, 35 year old
bike that's done 150...
543
00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:33,442
I mean, what the fuck is the
point in that? Know what I mean?
544
00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:34,772
What's the point?
545
00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:38,868
A lot of builders I speak to will say to
me, 'l won't work on old bikes any more'
546
00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:44,367
They spend the first 100 hours of
a build just stripping a bike and
547
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,669
re-finishing it and re-making it.
All they've done is restore a bike
548
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,918
and they've spent half the budget
and then they've got to spend
549
00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:52,798
the same money again to customise it.
550
00:41:53,636 --> 00:41:56,754
I think I prefer modern bikes
because of the performance
551
00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:01,641
I love big tyres, big brakes,
all the race shit actually
552
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,679
It's crazy to drive that kind
of bike because you're flying.
553
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:10,058
You can't really get in and
customise new stuff as
554
00:42:10,152 --> 00:42:13,736
much as you can old stuff.
That's the thing, I've been
555
00:42:13,781 --> 00:42:18,571
doing this 2017 model, it's like
I can't re-wire that thing.
556
00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:21,994
You've got to be an electrical
engineer to re-wire that thing and
557
00:42:22,081 --> 00:42:23,742
even then you're going to
have some problems, you know.
558
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:28,660
You can't really do anything
with the injections stuff that...
559
00:42:29,672 --> 00:42:36,044
without computer that only the
dealership is allowed to have.
560
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:40,138
I've also ridden some motorcycles that
have been very de-clawed by technology.
561
00:42:40,307 --> 00:42:42,765
You know, you get on a bike and
all of a sudden you can't do a burn out,
562
00:42:42,851 --> 00:42:44,717
you can't ride a wheelie,
you can't skid the rear break.
563
00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:47,936
I don't even want to ride it. I don't
even care if it makes 200 horse power.
564
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:51,933
If you're stuck with a new bike
and you can't change anything
565
00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:54,359
because the computer packs
up and goes into shutdown
566
00:42:54,446 --> 00:42:57,108
because it senses a new
headlight being put on
567
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,032
well the whole industry is in trouble.
568
00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:03,119
When people come up and and say a
bike is like, OK, that's the budget
569
00:43:03,497 --> 00:43:06,785
but I can go buy a new bike for that
price. Yeah.. yes..
570
00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:12,083
I can get a brand new one for that. Yeah.
Maybe that's what already happened
571
00:43:12,172 --> 00:43:17,713
with the customers. They're buying new
bikes. When you get new bikes that look
572
00:43:17,803 --> 00:43:20,795
like custom bikes if you
don't know the difference.
573
00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:23,089
It gives them a soft
landing into the scene.
574
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:26,972
People see a bike, they see
the individualism of the bike
575
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:30,855
probably thinking, oh that's awesome,
I'm never able to build that myself
576
00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:34,020
and in the past that means
this scene's not for you.
577
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,900
But right now if you see new bikes
coming out from manufacturers that
578
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:41,483
have the same air to them
as the bikes in this scene.
579
00:43:57,468 --> 00:44:01,587
Yeah you come to a show like this,
and there's so much stuff
580
00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:06,053
but it all comes down to the crowd.
It doesn't matter what you like in
581
00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:10,937
motorcycles, or don't like, for me
it's all about the craftsmanship
582
00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:14,399
and the work and just the
attitude and the style
583
00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:17,193
and the bike doesn't have to be a
trailer queen to be a winner.
584
00:44:17,529 --> 00:44:22,820
Yeah I think one of the good things
about these shows is most of us
585
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,117
especially those of us that
live in the colder climates,
586
00:44:25,204 --> 00:44:28,196
it's just like we're in our own
little world in our shop
587
00:44:28,832 --> 00:44:32,996
just working away, doing all this.
I found over the years, my social
588
00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:36,000
life has become less and less.
I think that's the good thing
589
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:38,707
about these shows, that we
come for the social aspect
590
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,219
of the business. When you bring it out
it's like, 'Aw, where have you been
591
00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:45,717
for all these months?"
Well I was doing this.
592
00:44:46,266 --> 00:44:50,180
That something that a show like
this, a hand built show, proves is
593
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:54,556
you can take any kind of bike
and build something really cool.
594
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:59,444
You can go outside the box no matter
what. You don't have to have
595
00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:01,646
a knucklehead to
build a cool bike.
596
00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:05,654
We would go to motorcycles shows and it
would always be the same fucking thing.
597
00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:10,868
There was some old curmudgeon
asshole, or 400 of them,
598
00:45:11,291 --> 00:45:13,202
that would treat you like
you wouldn't know shit
599
00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:15,493
because you didn't have any
grey hair or facial hair,
600
00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:18,917
and it was always like you were
not, you were automatically
601
00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:20,918
excluded from their fucking club.
602
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:26,758
It was called the Handbuilt Motorcycle
Show because these are people
603
00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:30,467
like us with limited resources and they're
building something with their hands
604
00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:35,681
and learning that that actually
has value. Let's create something
605
00:45:35,774 --> 00:45:39,392
that we try our best to
allow it to be instead of
606
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:42,061
determining what it should be.
Does that make sense?
607
00:45:42,531 --> 00:45:45,068
What's been the most satisfying
part of that, in doing
608
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,442
what we're doing with the
event and all this other stuff,
609
00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:49,868
is seeing other people's
personal discovery.
610
00:45:50,873 --> 00:45:53,831
There are multiple people that
have come to this little show
611
00:45:53,917 --> 00:45:57,330
we do which was just an excuse
to bring together a bunch of guys
612
00:45:57,379 --> 00:46:02,374
that we respected who've never even
thought of a motorcycle but they
613
00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:05,381
came, they looked and they went
'vou know what, maybe they're right
614
00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:09,089
maybe I can do this' and now there
were multiple bikes in the show
615
00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:13,385
this year that were built because
they went to the first show.
616
00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:17,351
The fact that the Wall of Death
is there is not just an accident.
617
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:21,184
That's not just like 'oh this might
be kind of cool'. No that was a
618
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,486
conscious thought of... we want to
find a way to get people that don't ride
619
00:46:26,575 --> 00:46:30,364
to have the visceral experience
of what it's like to ride somehow.
620
00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:33,617
Just to give them some small
taste of it. To get up close and
621
00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:35,618
personal with functioning bikes.
622
00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:56,720
Before, it was niche and it was
sub-culture, and it was a little bit
623
00:46:56,814 --> 00:47:00,182
more people in the know, but
social media has just attracted
624
00:47:00,651 --> 00:47:03,894
a bigger volume and that means
you do see more couples and
625
00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:06,854
more young people and more people
from just outside the scene
626
00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:10,283
on the fringes. If we don't attract
new people into the it and make
627
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,781
them passionate about it,
motorcycles won't exist in
628
00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:15,329
20 years time.
They'll be legislated out existence.
629
00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:17,786
Yeah we need more people with
energy, we need more doers
630
00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:20,208
and it's the young people
who are kind of coming in
631
00:47:20,295 --> 00:47:22,582
from a new angle. They haven't
been influenced in the past and
632
00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:26,166
they're pushing it in new
directions and that's what
633
00:47:26,301 --> 00:47:28,008
any progressive culture needs.
634
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:32,088
All production, all manufacturing,
the ability to do things with your hands
635
00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:36,259
is largely exited, it's gone.
We outsource everything.
636
00:47:36,812 --> 00:47:39,270
And it's really... I don't think
anyone expected it but it's
637
00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:42,314
really our generation that like
'wait a minute, our dads, our
638
00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:45,644
grandparents used to do this. If they
could do it, we can definitely do it.'
639
00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:49,697
I'm so sick of these people who have
been in the business for a long time
640
00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:51,778
getting pissed off
with these newcomers.
641
00:47:52,035 --> 00:47:55,824
It's like, at some point you were a
newcomer. They're like, who cares.
642
00:47:56,164 --> 00:47:59,657
Well five years ago they were riding
skateboards. Who gives a fuck?
643
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:01,792
Now they're riding a motorcycle.
Good.
644
00:48:02,004 --> 00:48:06,043
There is a younger demographic
that is interested in motorcycling
645
00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:10,092
and custom motorcycles and
choppers and cafes and it's
646
00:48:10,178 --> 00:48:12,840
affordable and anybody
can still do it.
647
00:48:13,015 --> 00:48:16,053
You've got kids of 22 right the
way through to people who are 62.
648
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,725
If they've only got £2k,
they can get into this.
649
00:48:19,021 --> 00:48:20,887
At the other end of the extreme,
if you want to got to one of the
650
00:48:20,939 --> 00:48:26,355
well-known makers, put down
£18k/£22k, you can do that as well.
651
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:29,520
And again, like buying it,
you can buy a 125 and make it cool.
652
00:48:29,656 --> 00:48:33,115
It's just cheap and affordable
and if you feel cool riding a 125
653
00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:35,568
you've pimped out, that's rad.
654
00:48:35,954 --> 00:48:40,539
And now there's this new breath
of air, there's a fresh interest
655
00:48:40,834 --> 00:48:43,667
in the younger demographic
and I think it's inspiring.
656
00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,253
If you look at the custom
scene, it's much much younger
657
00:48:46,673 --> 00:48:50,041
which is gold dust for the manufacturers.
Instead of selling
658
00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:55,130
motorcycles to retired dentists,
who are going to be dead in 10 years time,
659
00:48:55,766 --> 00:49:00,727
you've got somebody who has
a 30 year buying life cycle.
660
00:49:01,146 --> 00:49:05,105
It's really important to make
sure that younger people
661
00:49:05,192 --> 00:49:08,651
getting into the scene are
made to feel welcome.
662
00:49:08,904 --> 00:49:13,523
It's not going to grow from
the same old guys building
663
00:49:13,617 --> 00:49:16,325
the same old stuff. It's going
to grow from someone being
664
00:49:16,411 --> 00:49:19,278
included, having different ideas,
bringing something new to it
665
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:21,247
that's going to
help keep it going.
666
00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:24,541
I'll be completely honest with you,
the very first time I came here,
667
00:49:25,212 --> 00:49:29,297
I said, 'well we'll go but it looks
like one of those hipster things.'
668
00:49:29,549 --> 00:49:34,089
And we showed up and I'm like,
‘those guys have their jeans rolled up.
669
00:49:34,179 --> 00:49:38,047
This is one of those hipster things'.
By the end of the weekend, I said
670
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,132
you know, these guys are awesome.
671
00:49:40,477 --> 00:49:45,187
Ever since we started Blitz with Hugo,
I never met so many interesting
672
00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:47,723
and interested persons in my life.
673
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:51,485
All you need to do to belong
is just want to belong and
674
00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:54,984
try to bring something on the
table but try to work always
675
00:49:55,242 --> 00:49:59,236
with a giving sense, not like
try to leave an imprint.
676
00:49:59,997 --> 00:50:04,992
This place has always, always been
not about an individual person.
677
00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:08,369
It's always been about
a group of people.
678
00:50:08,755 --> 00:50:12,749
And if we were building a bike,
whoever turned up that day
679
00:50:13,218 --> 00:50:14,333
would work on that bike.
680
00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:45,949
Petrol heads, you can't help it.
Motorcycles are in the blood I'm afraid.
681
00:50:47,085 --> 00:50:50,373
I came last year,
had an amazing time, so many bikes.
682
00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:54,249
So many really nice people
and yeah, it's a must do.
683
00:50:54,676 --> 00:50:57,839
Well I think the racing here,
I think that's what sets this one off.
684
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:00,137
The fact that people are getting
to get their bikes out and
685
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:04,096
come out, fire 'em up,
line up, smell the smoke,
686
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:07,311
see the tyres spinning, see the
mud, it's just brilliant really.
687
00:51:07,898 --> 00:51:11,562
My name is Radical Edwards
of Radical Edwards Performance.
688
00:51:11,777 --> 00:51:15,736
I'm here to race. I'm just here for
general carrying on and fun and games
689
00:51:15,781 --> 00:51:17,237
and other sorts of malarkey.
690
00:51:19,409 --> 00:51:24,870
What's different about the Malle Mile,
it's not too serious, it's a lot of fun,
691
00:51:26,041 --> 00:51:30,501
it's open to anybody, that just
wants to bring their bike
692
00:51:30,629 --> 00:51:34,293
and chuck it down the track and it
actually goes back to the grass roots
693
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:40,379
of motorbike racing. That's really
where the custom bike scene started.
694
00:51:41,264 --> 00:51:43,596
It's people taking their bike
that they ride every day,
695
00:51:43,725 --> 00:51:47,593
and taking bits off it to make it go
faster, race it down the road.
696
00:52:02,452 --> 00:52:06,616
What's the Trip Out? A lot of
people get the wrong impression
697
00:52:06,706 --> 00:52:08,492
of it 'cause they think
it's a chopper show.
698
00:52:09,292 --> 00:52:13,661
Yes it is a chopper show but
it's also a culture show.
699
00:52:13,755 --> 00:52:16,918
You get to see good bikes,
be with your good friends,
700
00:52:17,342 --> 00:52:21,552
giving people a sense of freedom,
a bit of hope I suppose.
701
00:52:22,597 --> 00:52:26,215
A lot of people go and they've
got this wannabe hard man image.
702
00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:30,052
Fuck all that shit mate.
It's no good, is it?
703
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:33,185
Sometimes you want to let your hair
down and just dance to the Bee Gees.
704
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,727
The Trip Out's great although
it's a massive headache
705
00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,229
and I will say that on camera.
It's a bigger headache than
706
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:45,409
any of you can imagine.
Logistical stuff, councils,
707
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:52,451
noise police, health and safety,
fire risks, and generally
708
00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:55,790
the man not wanting you to
have a good party, innit.
709
00:52:56,173 --> 00:53:00,508
Yeah the chopper scene at the Trip Out
is... this is what people would have done
710
00:53:00,594 --> 00:53:04,303
in the 60s and 70s. They had the
chops and during the whole era
711
00:53:04,389 --> 00:53:07,552
of build what you've got and
people were doing Triumphs,
712
00:53:07,642 --> 00:53:10,555
they were doing Harleys, whatever
they could get hold of.
713
00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:12,978
That's what you see here.
It's not all about the shine
714
00:53:13,064 --> 00:53:15,431
and the sheen, it's about
what gets you down the road
715
00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:18,187
so everything's purpose built and
that's what I like about it.
716
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:24,273
Well we bought a mini-bike
and we were sitting there not
717
00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:26,950
doing anything on it, eating
breakfast, and we said yeah
718
00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:28,948
we should build a mini-bike,
got a picture up like a Taco,
719
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,248
60s mini-bike, 3-speed with
reverse, so 4-speed I suppose,
720
00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:37,411
wheel barrow wheels, with a
CG125 rear sprocket.
721
00:53:37,881 --> 00:53:40,794
Got a show field pass, and
we're going to try and do the
722
00:53:40,884 --> 00:53:43,922
chop slalom if it's still on.
It's a bit wet so the tyre
723
00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:45,628
compound's not
really ideal on it.
724
00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:48,089
But if we can enter it,
we will.
725
00:53:50,143 --> 00:53:56,185
Everybody wants to come to Dirtquake.
It's the coolest go fast event.
726
00:53:56,733 --> 00:53:59,566
I've heard all sorts of whacky
and weird rumours about it all
727
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:01,064
but I'm here now and yeah,
looking forward to it.
728
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,149
I'm weird and whacky so
why not get involved?
729
00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:10,493
It's a dirt track race mainly
for people who may not have
730
00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:12,491
raced dirt track before,
to give them a taste.
731
00:54:12,999 --> 00:54:16,333
It's not professional racers,
it's amateurs and some of them
732
00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:19,411
are very amateur and some of
the amateurs are quite professional
733
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:25,127
but no-one's here for the money,
no-one really cares who wins or loses,
734
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:29,134
the spectators don't
know who wins or loses.
735
00:54:29,683 --> 00:54:32,596
The only guy who cares who
wins is the guy who won
736
00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:36,311
and the guy who came second,
he would have liked to win.
737
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:39,936
No-one else cares.
You don't need a race bike,
738
00:54:40,485 --> 00:54:42,772
you don't need any experience.
You turn up and race.
739
00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:46,776
It's just something a bit different,
it's not racing showroom motorbikes
740
00:54:46,866 --> 00:54:49,153
that are all the bloody same,
that all make the same noise.
741
00:54:50,161 --> 00:54:53,074
It's a celebration of happiness
first of all and I think,
742
00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:56,164
happiness on two wheels so it's
a way to introduce people and
743
00:54:56,584 --> 00:55:00,873
tell them that that's fun, it's
not that dangerous, it's friendly,
744
00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:05,508
and you don't need to have
a $30k bike to have fun.
745
00:55:06,011 --> 00:55:10,130
So this bike my friends bought,
oh look it's a number 1.
746
00:55:10,473 --> 00:55:16,515
My friends bought this on eBay for
£11 and handed it to me and
747
00:55:16,604 --> 00:55:18,766
were like 'you wanna race it?'
and I'm like 'sure'.
748
00:55:19,232 --> 00:55:24,568
At Dirtquake, I saw a lot of
messing around but not a lot
749
00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:27,863
of bad crashes 'cause I think
it's a great start from somebody
750
00:55:27,949 --> 00:55:30,941
who wants to get into flat track.
Go to Dirtquake, you can take any bike.
751
00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:35,992
You can go back to work
on Monday and say
752
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,750
'l raced my motorbike this
weekend' and you really raced it.
753
00:55:39,961 --> 00:55:45,297
I like being able to tell people I'm a
motorcycle racer. Whatever my results are.
754
00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:48,542
When I first started riding
motorbikes, there were no other women.
755
00:55:48,595 --> 00:55:51,007
I didn't know anybody that rode a
motorbike that was another woman.
756
00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:53,676
There is no getting around the
fact that it was boys club
757
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:57,847
and the women who had been
riding 20 years before me,
758
00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,682
they experienced it ten fold.
759
00:56:00,023 --> 00:56:06,065
Yeah very sexist, misogynist,
very... the club culture of like...
760
00:56:07,238 --> 00:56:11,983
women are property and they never
ride, they're never part of anything,
761
00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:16,662
they don't own anything.
It's horrendous actually.
762
00:56:16,956 --> 00:56:20,119
Women still get a hard
time, you know, as a girl
763
00:56:20,251 --> 00:56:22,959
pulls up on a bike,
it's a big bike, guys are like
764
00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:25,583
'oh is she going to drop it?'
but you know what, I think
765
00:56:25,673 --> 00:56:29,291
this scene in particular is
supportive of women riders.
766
00:56:29,844 --> 00:56:33,303
The coolest thing I've noticed
about this show in particular is
767
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,848
there's more female bike
builders here as well.
768
00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:39,552
So it's not just riders and
girls like us that make clothes
769
00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:42,013
but girls that are wrenching
and building their own bikes
770
00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,849
and showing them.
And that's really inspiring to me.
771
00:56:44,984 --> 00:56:48,147
People don't really care
too much about my gender.
772
00:56:48,238 --> 00:56:52,698
They care more about the product,
but for me, my gender, I've had
773
00:56:52,784 --> 00:56:55,902
a very lucky experience and I
know a lot of women who have not.
774
00:56:56,579 --> 00:57:00,618
And I empathise with that and I
also am trying to help change that
775
00:57:00,708 --> 00:57:03,370
the way that they're trying to
change it and men are following suit.
776
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:09,541
Men are participating in this
social change just as hard as
777
00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:11,545
the women are. I feel like
they're helping because
778
00:57:11,636 --> 00:57:12,876
they realise that it's important.
779
00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:17,723
It's a far more inclusive market.
It's far more, both female friendly
780
00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:20,050
and I think to a certain
extent, family friendly.
781
00:57:20,812 --> 00:57:24,055
And what's amazing is
that the bike media, the
782
00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:26,766
traditional bike media,
doesn't seem to have noticed.
783
00:57:27,193 --> 00:57:31,357
I see way more women on the
road, I see more riding
784
00:57:31,448 --> 00:57:36,113
groups pop up and I see a lot
on social media which is great
785
00:57:36,202 --> 00:57:38,785
That's where a lot of people are connecting
and we encourage people to connect.
786
00:57:39,205 --> 00:57:42,072
There's a big buzz word
all over now about feminism
787
00:57:42,125 --> 00:57:44,332
and women doing it for themselves
and I think motorcycling
788
00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:48,378
has just maybe become a part of that.
I think it's a good timing thing
789
00:57:48,798 --> 00:57:51,039
with the custom scene
coming to the fore and then
790
00:57:51,384 --> 00:57:54,797
it happening around the same
time as a lot of other things
791
00:57:54,888 --> 00:57:55,798
in women's lives.
792
00:57:56,055 --> 00:57:58,922
We have the potential to change
the industry for the better.
793
00:57:59,392 --> 00:58:01,224
Women are fitting in
in a different way.
794
00:58:01,686 --> 00:58:06,476
They're exposed directly to
stories about other strong women
795
00:58:06,858 --> 00:58:08,849
who are coming up on
their own and doing this.
796
00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:11,564
But right now you're dealing
with a lot of women who are
797
00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:14,776
best known for Insta-fame
and that's dangerous.
798
00:58:15,033 --> 00:58:18,025
They're riding, they're racing,
they're doing really interesting things
799
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,780
but it's really easy
to write them off
800
00:58:20,246 --> 00:58:26,037
Looking at some of the more
trendy Instagram photos and
801
00:58:26,127 --> 00:58:28,334
things for women in motorcycling
that are happening right now,
802
00:58:28,671 --> 00:58:32,255
you can look at it as an
extrapolation of old Easy Riders
803
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,213
in a negative way, or you can
look at it in a positive way
804
00:58:35,428 --> 00:58:37,669
because they're not draped
on the bike not moving,
805
00:58:37,972 --> 00:58:39,258
they're riding it themselves.
806
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,931
It's a fine line to get a
woman on a motorcycle
807
00:58:42,227 --> 00:58:44,639
to empower her as
well as the machine.
808
00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,637
And I think a lot of my
fellow photographers
809
00:58:46,731 --> 00:58:49,314
actually fallen down on that
whereas being a woman
810
00:58:49,567 --> 00:58:51,683
and shooting women,
has actually been a lot easier
811
00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:54,736
for me than it maybe would
be for one of my colleagues,
812
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:56,480
men colleagues that is.
813
00:58:56,908 --> 00:59:02,074
It's more about women
opening up motorcycle riding
814
00:59:02,163 --> 00:59:04,746
to other women right now
and the community that I've met
815
00:59:04,874 --> 00:59:07,036
through that is just amazing.
816
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,793
We did not mean to start
Babes Ride Out at all.
817
00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,538
Well, Anya and I had been
friends for a little while,
818
00:59:12,924 --> 00:59:15,666
and we wanted to go camping
together and then we decided
819
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,219
to open it up to everyone,
all women, so we posted a
820
00:59:20,139 --> 00:59:22,597
really shitty Instagram flyer
and before you knew it, we were
821
00:59:22,684 --> 00:59:24,675
getting messages from girls
all over the United States.
822
00:59:24,769 --> 00:59:27,682
It just grew exponentially as
we used social media to reach
823
00:59:27,772 --> 00:59:30,184
out and tried to meet these
ladies. It just creates this
824
00:59:30,275 --> 00:59:33,688
safety bubble. No-one's cooler
than the next person.
825
00:59:34,529 --> 00:59:38,238
We're all the same this one weekend.
You'll see a 60 year-old grandma
826
00:59:38,908 --> 00:59:42,242
hanging out with a 21 year-old
girl. They're having a beer together
827
00:59:42,412 --> 00:59:45,621
and talking about where they
ride, who they are, what they do.
828
00:59:45,999 --> 00:59:48,866
The idea of teaching
women how to ride or at least
829
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,294
giving them their first go on a bike.
Me and the girls got together
830
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:55,463
and said, well our boyfriends
taught us to ride in Asda car parks.
831
00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:59,251
What do girls do if they don't
have a friend or a boyfriend
832
00:59:59,345 --> 01:00:01,336
that just has a little bike
that they can give it a go on
833
01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:02,962
but they really want to
get into it.
834
01:00:07,103 --> 01:00:10,687
My thought was, create a network
that's based in something
835
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:15,985
deeper than Instagram, hashtags,
and a t-shirt you can buy for $10
836
01:00:16,112 --> 01:00:18,854
and actually connect these
women so yeah we look like
837
01:00:18,948 --> 01:00:21,940
we're having a blast on social
media but it's so much deeper.
838
01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:23,529
It's truly a network.
839
01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:26,570
With the younger generation
maybe, of motorcyclist,
840
01:00:26,664 --> 01:00:29,122
it's a little bit less like
you're a female motorcyclist,
841
01:00:29,208 --> 01:00:30,790
you're a male motorcyclist,
we're all just motorcyclists.
842
01:00:31,544 --> 01:00:35,128
The distinction is not so important
any more which I think is really cool.
843
01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:40,422
There's many times in my life when
I've asked myself the same question
844
01:00:41,054 --> 01:00:45,799
'why do I build custom bikes?'
because I'm definitely not rich
845
01:00:46,392 --> 01:00:49,134
and I've struggled most
of my life to pay the rent.
846
01:00:51,272 --> 01:00:56,563
Just be real, why do we customise
anything? We like to show off.
847
01:00:57,153 --> 01:01:00,111
I don't play golf,
my father plays golf and I said
848
01:01:00,198 --> 01:01:05,068
‘why the fuck do you like playing golf?'
and he said 'it's the game that
849
01:01:05,161 --> 01:01:09,780
you can't play perfectly but it's
that trying to do something perfect'.
850
01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:12,449
I'm like 'that's the dumbest thing
I've ever fucking heard'.
851
01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:15,786
- Son what do you do?
—- I build these bikes.
852
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,211
- You built a perfect one yet?
- No
853
01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:18,463
- You think you can?
- No
854
01:01:19,092 --> 01:01:27,182
It's kind of like playing golf, you think
you're going to get perfect. You're not.
855
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:52,581
I was the kid on my block that
took everybody's bicycles apart
856
01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:55,409
and maybe didn't get them all
back together all the time so
857
01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:56,959
their parents were always
yelling at my parents.
858
01:01:57,338 --> 01:02:01,923
But that passion for how things
worked, is what drove me.
859
01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:04,885
I have this disease of making,
I want to make stuff
860
01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:10,512
but I've never been happier
since I've been making stuff. So...
861
01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:14,762
The whole time you're working
on these bikes, you can't wait
862
01:02:14,856 --> 01:02:19,191
until it's done. But then the
minute it's done, it's done.
863
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:22,273
Now what? You start another one.
864
01:02:24,073 --> 01:02:27,361
You know what? I love making things
and motorcycles are just my favourite.
865
01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:31,195
I like cars but it's just
it's a little too much for me
866
01:02:31,539 --> 01:02:35,407
and you spend years building a car
and a motorcycle, you can get it out,
867
01:02:35,501 --> 01:02:38,289
you can get all your creative visions
out and to me it's just as cool.
868
01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:41,629
All the skills and craft,
all the engineering,
869
01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:45,126
and then also getting the
aesthetic and artistry
870
01:02:45,261 --> 01:02:48,970
built into it,
is such a fun process for me.
871
01:02:49,223 --> 01:02:53,057
That's why I think it's a
worthwhile pursuit, even though
872
01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:55,351
it is just a frivolous thing,
it's just a silly motorcycle
873
01:02:55,438 --> 01:02:57,896
but that combination
makes it more than that.
874
01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:06,322
To me, I'm a caretaker of that bike.
It belonged to somebody before
875
01:03:06,657 --> 01:03:10,901
and it'll belong to somebody after me.
I'm taking and making it into
876
01:03:11,037 --> 01:03:14,155
something new and different.
I don't want to be remembered personally
877
01:03:14,916 --> 01:03:17,829
but I want the brand to be
remembered and to be thought of
878
01:03:17,919 --> 01:03:23,289
inside the motorcycling timeline as...
we helped this thing.
879
01:03:24,091 --> 01:03:28,801
I want to leave a little something
of me for later when I will not
880
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,129
be there any more, maybe
for my son and daughter.
881
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:37,469
If he can have a little head turner,
paragraph in the custom story
882
01:03:37,897 --> 01:03:38,932
I'm happy, I win.
883
01:03:40,399 --> 01:03:44,939
I don't feel like I have a choice
because as soon as one is finished
884
01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:52,151
there's this nagging, creeping feeling
that there's something new to be
885
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:57,789
solved or something new to be looked at.
There's new questions that have arrived.
886
01:03:58,251 --> 01:04:01,664
It's a disease, isn't it?
It's like I either have to stop
887
01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:07,879
what I'm doing right now or
I need to go all the way into it
888
01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:11,052
because you can't get into this
a little bit, you have to do it 100%
889
01:04:11,347 --> 01:04:15,341
I was helping a friend of mine,
Josh Elison, who's a great metal shaper.
890
01:04:15,601 --> 01:04:17,888
He came and looked at my bike.
He's like 'wow that's fucking great'.
891
01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:20,269
I looked at his and I'm like
‘yours is way better than mine'
892
01:04:20,648 --> 01:04:22,889
He's like ‘no yours'.
Then we start pointing out to
893
01:04:22,984 --> 01:04:25,851
each other 'no look
where I fucked this up'
894
01:04:26,237 --> 01:04:28,353
'no, my fuck up is
bigger than yours'
895
01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:30,817
It's like, what are we doing?
896
01:04:31,659 --> 01:04:33,616
In the motorcycle world,
we're all competitive.
897
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,454
Like with Woolie,
Woolie built a beautiful MV Agusta
898
01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:40,457
and I'm working on an
MV Agusta right now.
899
01:04:40,626 --> 01:04:43,493
I love the bike that he
built, I think it's gorgeous.
900
01:04:43,671 --> 01:04:46,834
So I'm here trying to do
something a bit different
901
01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:51,301
with our MV but it's competitive.
I want to build a better bike
902
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:56,132
than Woolie built. Fuck yeah, I do!
I respect the hell out of him
903
01:04:56,434 --> 01:04:58,766
but at the same time I want to
build a better bike than he built.
904
01:04:59,186 --> 01:05:04,977
On the builder side,
competition is never overly welcome.
905
01:05:05,401 --> 01:05:08,359
It's not just the competition for
customers but it's the competition
906
01:05:08,446 --> 01:05:12,690
of ideas and protection of ideas
so it all gets a little touchy.
907
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:16,947
What would motorcycles be without
a little beef now and again, right?
908
01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:22,665
But it just goes viral a lot
faster now because of Instagram.
909
01:05:24,295 --> 01:05:27,413
I shudder a little bit.
I'm probably not going to
910
01:05:27,548 --> 01:05:29,710
win any friends here but I
shudder a little bit when I see
911
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,759
bikes like [BLEEP] or [BLEEP],
basically just bikes that
912
01:05:34,472 --> 01:05:37,180
had a few little things
unbolted and a lick of paint and
913
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,092
put back together again and
they're probably really nice guys
914
01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:42,473
and they probably worked really
hard to earn that money but
915
01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:44,391
you can't call that a custom.
916
01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:47,273
Everyone used to build a bike,
take it to a show, put it on a plinth,
917
01:05:47,443 --> 01:05:51,653
and that was it. You just show
off what you built. And no-one
918
01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:54,527
would ride the bike.
Most of us are building custom bikes
919
01:05:55,326 --> 01:05:58,614
to race at a show now instead
of building a show bike
920
01:05:58,871 --> 01:06:02,614
you're building a show bike
that's for a flat track race or
921
01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:04,824
for a drag race or
for a hill climb.
922
01:06:07,004 --> 01:06:13,091
So Glemseck 101, this event we
are attending now is hosting the
923
01:06:13,177 --> 01:06:16,090
finals of Sultans Of Sprint
sprint racing challenge.
924
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:20,344
What makes me really, really
happy and proud is that we
925
01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:27,306
manage to build up a kind of
therapy for motorcycle freaks.
926
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:31,143
What we're doing is,
we call it turbo charged
927
01:06:31,904 --> 01:06:33,440
flying carpet contest.
928
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:36,273
Yeah I think really what
makes Sultans Of Sprint
929
01:06:36,492 --> 01:06:40,531
really, really special is it's
something in between custom bikes
930
01:06:41,163 --> 01:06:47,409
and racing bikes. It's, for me,
quite fascinating. It's all the
931
01:06:47,545 --> 01:06:52,005
energy they put on working on
the bikes to make them faster.
932
01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:56,714
For a six second adrenaline
shot, you know. It's completely
933
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,516
completely crazy. I mean,
it's pushing custom to new boundaries.
934
01:07:09,942 --> 01:07:12,980
The economics of building bikes
have meant that some people
935
01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:15,482
have excelled and other people
have fallen by the wayside because
936
01:07:15,906 --> 01:07:18,113
it's not really a good way to make
money unless you're very, very
937
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,192
organised or very talented.
You've either got to create a brand
938
01:07:21,287 --> 01:07:23,904
that people will pay
money for or a product
939
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:26,281
that people feel
is value for money.
940
01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:29,876
It keeps going because people
are so passionate about it
941
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:33,296
and for them, making money
wasn't what got them into it
942
01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:37,717
in the first place. And for them, all they
really want is a way to keep doing it.
943
01:07:38,095 --> 01:07:39,961
I'm in business to
make money obviously
944
01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:43,890
I'm only concerned with having enough
feed those kids and go back tomorrow.
945
01:07:44,435 --> 01:07:46,893
Everybody I know in the bike
building world that has a
946
01:07:46,979 --> 01:07:49,095
bike building company, struggles.
947
01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:50,889
I don't know,
maybe other people are getting
948
01:07:50,983 --> 01:07:52,849
rich doing it but I
don't feel like I am.
949
01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:56,148
The enemy of the builder is the time.
It's always the time.
950
01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,984
I don't know, working for ten
hours, charging for one or two,
951
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,988
there's just nothing in it and
if they were all brutally honest,
952
01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:04,945
it's probably only a £1 or £2 an hour.
953
01:08:05,331 --> 01:08:08,369
A lot of people enter the custom
bike world with a passion
954
01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:12,748
which you need, but they
get taken advantage of.
955
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:17,214
People get them to build bikes,
they don't pay them what it costs
956
01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:21,386
the person to build the bike, but
they try to get it on the cheap.
957
01:08:22,473 --> 01:08:24,430
Take advantage of
that person's passion.
958
01:08:25,142 --> 01:08:27,975
If somebody tries to
sell a bike for $40,000,
959
01:08:28,521 --> 01:08:31,730
it's a lot of money but you've got
$25,000 worth of parts in
960
01:08:31,816 --> 01:08:35,309
that bike. If it took that guy
six months to build that bike,
961
01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:38,232
he made $15,000 in six months.
962
01:08:39,115 --> 01:08:41,777
If you're building a bike and you
start from scratch every time,
963
01:08:42,368 --> 01:08:44,951
then hope to find a client who
will buy it, you'll go broke.
964
01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:49,114
So we launched a concept
for a batch build,
965
01:08:50,584 --> 01:08:55,078
and the bikes were a success,
but we didn't really sell any.
966
01:08:56,382 --> 01:08:59,500
You can build what you think
is the greatest bike in the world,
967
01:09:00,177 --> 01:09:02,965
and you've got 1,000 hours
in it, and nobody likes it
968
01:09:03,597 --> 01:09:07,591
so if you get it on a commission,
and you build it for them
969
01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:11,519
and as you go, he's paying and
so forth, he's never happy.
970
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:13,930
You never get to
the end of that job.
971
01:09:14,859 --> 01:09:16,441
You can't make a
living out of that.
972
01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:23,106
But it would be very easy
to be seduced by Instagram
973
01:09:23,450 --> 01:09:26,784
and things to think that
there's a living to be made
974
01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:30,205
easily in the custom bike scene.
And then you have the business
975
01:09:30,374 --> 01:09:32,957
people who figure out
how to sell swag and
976
01:09:33,043 --> 01:09:36,911
parts and things like that.
I mean, Roland Sands is like the apex guy.
977
01:09:37,423 --> 01:09:39,835
The big thing for me is I'm not
down there working on bikes all day.
978
01:09:40,426 --> 01:09:43,964
A lot of what I do is convince
people to spend money with us.
979
01:09:44,388 --> 01:09:47,380
I look at it as a business.
I don't look at it like
980
01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:50,049
I need to do this entire
project on my own,
981
01:09:50,144 --> 01:09:51,475
in order to make it authentic.
982
01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:53,765
And then when you try
to put the numbers in,
983
01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:55,472
and start to put the
business model together,
984
01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:57,898
and start to actually figure
out what's the economics of
985
01:09:57,985 --> 01:10:00,727
how this works? You find
out that there's no data to
986
01:10:00,779 --> 01:10:04,864
go on, there's no real tangible
information so you've got to make stuff up
987
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:06,566
and then you go,
'well this is all bullshit'
988
01:10:07,036 --> 01:10:10,950
The custom motorcycle thing
is cool and it's great
989
01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:15,249
and it is a business but
to be successful at it,
990
01:10:16,086 --> 01:10:17,872
we all have to do
something else.
991
01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:22,795
Our parts line is what actually
brings in the steady income
992
01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:26,094
on a regular basis. We build
a bike, it gets a lot of press,
993
01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:29,013
it gets a lot of media attention,
and then they come to our website
994
01:10:29,099 --> 01:10:32,387
to check us out and hopefully
they leave buying a tail light
995
01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:35,641
or a hat and that's
basically the business model.
996
01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:43,565
People that I don't want
to deal with is cheap,
997
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,656
cheap people that want to
nickel and dime on each project.
998
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,241
How much is this? How much is that?
How much is this?
999
01:10:52,957 --> 01:10:57,326
It's hard to deal with people
that don't understand what
1000
01:10:58,212 --> 01:10:59,953
it takes to be a craftsman.
1001
01:11:01,048 --> 01:11:05,542
I don't have a millionaire coming up to
me, wanting me to build
1002
01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:10,597
a $50,000 bike.
I've got blue collar dudes, a guy that
1003
01:11:11,058 --> 01:11:13,595
has saved a couple of bucks,
he's got three kids at home,
1004
01:11:13,894 --> 01:11:17,353
and he's wanting to spend
$12,000 on a really cool bike.
1005
01:11:17,773 --> 01:11:21,311
So I want to make sure he's getting
something really cool for his money.
1006
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:25,062
I mean, these are luxury goods.
Nobody needs a motorcycle.
1007
01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:27,071
Certainly nobody needs a
custom motorcycle
1008
01:11:27,324 --> 01:11:34,492
so my client is the higher
crest of the 1% of the world.
1009
01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:40,702
I need movie star customers
with bigger pockets.
1010
01:11:41,630 --> 01:11:44,418
Our average customer has
changed quite dramatically.
1011
01:11:44,675 --> 01:11:48,213
We've gone from blue collar guys to
building bikes for millionaires.
1012
01:11:49,054 --> 01:11:52,263
My day job is my day job.
I like doing this stuff,
1013
01:11:52,349 --> 01:11:56,718
I don't want to make this my
work, I need that balance of
1014
01:11:58,689 --> 01:12:03,855
reality and this little fun
fucking motorcycle shit that we do.
1015
01:12:04,486 --> 01:12:08,195
I don't make money doing this,
customers are a pain in the ass.
1016
01:12:10,993 --> 01:12:14,202
Sometimes it's pretty hard when a
guy has been thinking about his bike
1017
01:12:14,288 --> 01:12:16,950
for the last year and he's
got all these ideas on paper
1018
01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:18,702
and he's got everything
that he wants together
1019
01:12:19,293 --> 01:12:20,499
and then you've got
to burst his bubble
1020
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:21,951
because then he can't
afford what he wants.
1021
01:12:22,254 --> 01:12:24,086
The first question:
What does it cost?
1022
01:12:24,423 --> 01:12:28,462
And I say, well it can
cost $700 or $70,000.
1023
01:12:28,552 --> 01:12:29,508
What do you want to spend?
1024
01:12:30,054 --> 01:12:32,386
The prices, I keep it pretty simple.
I just think about how much
1025
01:12:32,473 --> 01:12:34,714
time is involved and how
expensive it's going to be.
1026
01:12:35,851 --> 01:12:39,970
I can build a bike for $20,000
or $100,000. There's no...
1027
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,477
there's no set thing.
I don't have a minimum price.
1028
01:12:44,234 --> 01:12:49,195
Right now they start at around
18 and go up to about 40.
1029
01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:54,533
And honestly it's like surprising
how easy it is to spend
1030
01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:58,287
$35,000 on a $35,000 bike.
1031
01:12:58,999 --> 01:13:03,664
They end up going into personal
collections and that's really what
1032
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,296
I can say about it. The level of collector
has to be consistent with the build
1033
01:13:07,716 --> 01:13:12,005
and I've just been really fortunate
that I've aligned with people
1034
01:13:12,096 --> 01:13:13,461
that get what I do.
1035
01:13:14,932 --> 01:13:18,345
Yeah Mama Tried is very unique.
You can go flat track racing on Friday
1036
01:13:18,477 --> 01:13:20,969
and go to a show on Saturday, and
on Sunday you can go ice racing
1037
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,271
so to have a flat track race in an
NBA stadium is pretty spectacular.
1038
01:13:27,444 --> 01:13:29,526
We're really into dirt tracking,
flat tracking around here,
1039
01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:33,322
that's a big sport in this area.
So we were like ‘how can we do
1040
01:13:33,659 --> 01:13:37,698
an indoor race?' so we thought of the coke
syrup thing and that's how it started.
1041
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:43,374
We knew the Hooligan thing was
happening. I got in touch with
1042
01:13:43,544 --> 01:13:47,037
Aaron Guardado and I was like,
‘so what's the deal with Hooligan?
1043
01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:51,546
Is there rules?' And he's like, 'no
not really, it's really just dirt ball
1044
01:13:52,553 --> 01:13:55,636
outlaw racing, for people who just
want to get into the sport'.
1045
01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:56,632
And I was like, 'alright let's have it'.
1046
01:13:57,141 --> 01:14:00,805
It definitely started out as... show
up at the track and race your
1047
01:14:00,894 --> 01:14:05,229
Harley no matter what it is.
Your street Harley slowly evolves
1048
01:14:05,315 --> 01:14:08,603
into a race Harley and next thing
you know you've got yourself
1049
01:14:08,694 --> 01:14:11,561
a full blown race bike.
What's good about the Hooligan
1050
01:14:11,655 --> 01:14:14,693
class is that it's a really
attainable form of racing.
1051
01:14:14,783 --> 01:14:18,071
Your regular Joe can go out
and race and potentially win
1052
01:14:18,162 --> 01:14:21,996
everything on a pretty small
budget which is really nice.
1053
01:14:22,374 --> 01:14:25,912
And you can have a complete
race bike for under $5,000
1054
01:14:26,128 --> 01:14:30,292
which is crazy. You can't have anything
competitive in any other racing
1055
01:14:30,757 --> 01:14:32,168
on that minimal budget.
1056
01:14:33,719 --> 01:14:35,756
It's great because it's
bringing a ton of new people
1057
01:14:35,846 --> 01:14:37,257
into the sport. A ton.
1058
01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:44,223
I think Sideburn was hugely
influential on re-exporting dirt track
1059
01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:47,563
back to the USA and getting
people interested in it again.
1060
01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:50,479
Dirt track racing is: you throw a
bike in the back of your pick up truck
1061
01:14:50,903 --> 01:14:54,271
and your leathers and you go racing
and that's what's cool about it.
1062
01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:58,403
Summers are crazy around here
because everyone only gets
1063
01:14:58,785 --> 01:15:01,493
four or five months to ride.
So in the winter everyone is like
1064
01:15:01,580 --> 01:15:03,617
always messing with their
stuff because you can't ride
1065
01:15:04,041 --> 01:15:05,748
but you're thinking about
motorcycles every day.
1066
01:15:07,044 --> 01:15:09,706
We just thought, what a better
way to do it, like have that stoke
1067
01:15:09,796 --> 01:15:12,288
in the middle of winter.
A little bit of something in the deepest
1068
01:15:12,382 --> 01:15:15,124
part of winter to get you
through until summertime.
1069
01:15:15,385 --> 01:15:18,047
The bikes that we chose,
maybe they're not the best
1070
01:15:18,388 --> 01:15:22,097
of any genre that they're in,
I mean some of them are,
1071
01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:26,182
it still fucking rules. It doesn't
matter that it's not perfect.
1072
01:15:26,563 --> 01:15:29,396
The person that was building
that bike had an idea what
1073
01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:33,226
they wanted, they went after it and
didn't care what other people thought.
1074
01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:39,694
We came to Mama Tried show,
we got invited while we were at Sturgis.
1075
01:15:41,245 --> 01:15:44,033
That was a boost of
confidence while we were at Sturgis.
1076
01:15:44,206 --> 01:15:47,039
It sucks.
Nobody got our bike whatsoever.
1077
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,997
A lot of old people with
golf carts and shit and then
1078
01:15:50,087 --> 01:15:53,500
we got the call to come to Mama Tried.
I think it's a cool thing.
1079
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:56,958
And I think that's had a lot to do with
why these little grass roots shows
1080
01:15:57,678 --> 01:16:02,423
can become huge but still stay cool
and relevant and not a total sell-out.
1081
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:06,434
We're all into two wheels.
There's so many different genres
1082
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,852
and things you can fit it
when it comes to two wheels.
1083
01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:12,557
I want them all in the same room.
I want to split up all their groups
1084
01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:16,861
so I don't put a big pile of
choppers in the corner so all the
1085
01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,234
chopper kids can go make a
dark corner and hang out and
1086
01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:22,283
talk shit on everybody because they're
too cool to talk to anybody else.
1087
01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:24,280
I want to take them out of
their comfort zone,
1088
01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:27,496
put them next to a race guy
and I want to see one of those
1089
01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:30,325
chopper guys on a race bike
at Flat Out Friday the next year.
1090
01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:33,954
They can hate 95% of the
bikes but they'll love one.
1091
01:16:34,214 --> 01:16:40,586
Or vice versa. Some of those
bikes I'm... I don't like them.
1092
01:16:41,305 --> 01:16:43,046
But I know that they're going to
like them and when I go
1093
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:45,848
out there, right now, and that
sun's just like that and I see
1094
01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:48,892
the bike that I don't like,
gleaming in the sun and
1095
01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:52,768
there's people all around it
that are just loving it,
1096
01:16:54,985 --> 01:16:57,898
What do you say? It's perfect. It's great.
1097
01:16:58,405 --> 01:17:01,397
I feel like we lucked out and did
something at a really perfect time
1098
01:17:01,491 --> 01:17:07,077
in what's happening with motorcycling.
Maybe it'll be like this for a long time
1099
01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:09,622
or maybe it's just a little
space in time but
1100
01:17:09,875 --> 01:17:11,457
it's cool to be around
it while it's here.
1101
01:17:11,877 --> 01:17:14,710
Winter time changes between
ice riding and building.
1102
01:18:32,165 --> 01:18:33,371
It's a labour of love
at the end of the day.
1103
01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:35,408
Building these bikes
is something I can do
1104
01:18:35,502 --> 01:18:38,460
to get away from life.
It's something I can do to just relax.
1105
01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:43,633
It truly is fun and it allows
my imagination to go wild.
1106
01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:49,756
I think that would be difficult
today, to start up and do
1107
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:51,682
something that hasn't
already been done.
1108
01:18:51,935 --> 01:18:55,178
We made it legit to do
whatever you want
1109
01:18:55,689 --> 01:18:58,351
because we didn't follow
any kind of rules.
1110
01:18:58,525 --> 01:19:03,361
I was the only guy who was a racer
who was building custom bikes.
1111
01:19:04,156 --> 01:19:06,944
It was this crazy blend,
like taking those two things
1112
01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:11,194
and smashing them together was the
most natural thing in the world to do.
1113
01:19:11,455 --> 01:19:15,369
What I wanted the company to be,
what the inspiration was for the company
1114
01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:17,416
it was the English
street biker scene.
1115
01:19:17,627 --> 01:19:20,085
For a kid coming up in the
sport bike community,
1116
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:24,840
to see... here's your sport bike, but
this is what it could be turned into,
1117
01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:29,219
and it was mind-blowing to me.
1118
01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:05,290
The custom bikes that get
built now often begin with
1119
01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:11,470
a collaboration going through
photos of examples of bikes
1120
01:20:11,556 --> 01:20:15,766
that someone has seen on social media.
Custom builders get really edgy if
1121
01:20:15,852 --> 01:20:20,562
you claim that it was your
bike where they got the idea.
1122
01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:23,437
Every custom builder came up
with every idea they've ever had
1123
01:20:23,527 --> 01:20:28,146
on any bike they've ever built and I'd
be the last person to suggest otherwise.
1124
01:20:28,448 --> 01:20:31,236
You have to obey the laws of
physics, you can break the laws
1125
01:20:31,326 --> 01:20:36,116
of man all you want, but the
laws of physics are not bendable
1126
01:20:36,289 --> 01:20:38,781
so you have to find a way
to work within them.
1127
01:20:39,459 --> 01:20:42,702
Building a good custom bike,
to make it look good in the metal
1128
01:20:43,129 --> 01:20:50,001
and actually physically work as a
piece of transport, is fiendishly hard.
1129
01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:53,087
Taking things that don't work
and making them work
1130
01:20:53,139 --> 01:20:56,131
and connecting those lines,
it always inspires thought.
1131
01:20:56,226 --> 01:20:59,969
It makes people think. It's not just
'hey look at this custom bike!
1132
01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:02,388
it's an idea.
1133
01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:07,272
To me, less is more so
when you look at the bikes
1134
01:21:07,362 --> 01:21:11,151
that I do, they almost look
like they wouldn't work.
1135
01:21:11,783 --> 01:21:16,118
I guess it's a simple process that's
difficult to do, if that makes sense.
1136
01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:19,993
This is a bike I'm doing for
the Show Class People's Champ.
1137
01:21:20,458 --> 01:21:22,950
It's for the Born Free show
this year up in California.
1138
01:21:23,670 --> 01:21:26,128
I basically modified the frame
how I wanted it to look.
1139
01:21:26,673 --> 01:21:29,461
I actually built the
bike around the tank.
1140
01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:32,627
So I built this tank a few
years ago and it's been
1141
01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:34,883
sitting on my shelf and I've
been waiting to use it.
1142
01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:39,642
There is going to be straight bars
that are clean. There's going to be no
1143
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,011
controls on them with an
internal throttle.
1144
01:21:42,772 --> 01:21:48,393
It'll just look like a nice clean
little short chop but it's a soft tail.
1145
01:21:48,945 --> 01:21:52,609
That's basically the gist of what
this one's going to look like.
1146
01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:57,576
Don't do design for the sake of
design because that's not design.
1147
01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:01,034
You're not solving any problems,
you're creating a problem by doing that.
1148
01:22:01,499 --> 01:22:03,911
I think it goes back to the
simplicity of the design
1149
01:22:04,419 --> 01:22:07,377
so anything that is simple
and elegant it will be
1150
01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:13,005
more or less timeless. As soon as you
add more than what should be there,
1151
01:22:13,511 --> 01:22:14,876
it can date quite quickly.
1152
01:22:15,847 --> 01:22:21,138
A component or a complete machine,
whatever it is, designed to perform
1153
01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:26,018
properly, at its best possible
way, it automatically somehow
1154
01:22:26,232 --> 01:22:28,849
becomes a beautiful object,
in this case a motorcycle,
1155
01:22:29,486 --> 01:22:31,068
inherently it's beautiful.
1156
01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:03,225
Honestly, I'll block an
engine up against a wall,
1157
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,478
move tyres back and forth,
and get the wheel base things down
1158
01:23:06,564 --> 01:23:09,773
to where I'm starting to feel it,
and then I'll take pictures of it
1159
01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:13,026
and I'll just sketch on the
pictures with a pencil.
1160
01:23:13,697 --> 01:23:17,281
So every time it needs a
part designed, I do it in
1161
01:23:17,367 --> 01:23:20,200
Solid Works.
I design every part myself.
1162
01:23:21,496 --> 01:23:23,988
I'm a designer from the first
through to the end.
1163
01:23:36,428 --> 01:23:40,763
Recently, I had the opportunity
to build a bike with my own
1164
01:23:40,932 --> 01:23:45,642
aesthetic. From that, it kind of
opened up this huge door to
1165
01:23:46,021 --> 01:23:48,228
make me want to come
to work and create art
1166
01:23:48,523 --> 01:23:50,639
that happens to be
on a motorcycle.
1167
01:23:51,401 --> 01:23:54,860
Typically I like to try and get as
much creative freedom as possible
1168
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:58,523
but some customers just
want to have some say.
1169
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:01,617
That definitely disrupts
the creative process.
1170
01:24:01,911 --> 01:24:05,700
So we try to do a couple
of spec builds a year
1171
01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:07,997
where we just build
what we want and sell.
1172
01:24:08,418 --> 01:24:12,958
Customers obviously bring in money so
we try to do a few of those as well.
1173
01:24:13,757 --> 01:24:16,419
Some are great and some not so great.
1174
01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:18,713
There are times that people
come in and they say:
1175
01:24:18,928 --> 01:24:23,764
Hey I saw this bike on
Bike EXIF or Bike Shed or
1176
01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:26,012
Pipeburn and it's like:
I want you to make me this bike.
1177
01:24:26,102 --> 01:24:28,810
It's like, no. Somebody else
made that bike. That's their bike.
1178
01:24:28,980 --> 01:24:31,517
I'm not going to make that bike.
Or they ask us to repeat what
1179
01:24:31,608 --> 01:24:33,815
we already made that they
saw on Bike EXIF. I'm like:
1180
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:36,898
No I don't want to do
that, that's no fun.
1181
01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:57,248
I negotiate for white card every time.
We discuss, I try to know
1182
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:00,383
who is in front of me and we
try to know what are his hobbies
1183
01:25:00,512 --> 01:25:03,550
his passions, what he likes really.
And I will do what he wants
1184
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,098
not what he asks.
There's a bit of a difference.
1185
01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:10,432
All you need is *that*. Remember
that. All you need is *that*.
1186
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,977
But you can have as
much of that as you want
1187
01:25:15,193 --> 01:25:21,235
but it don't give you style though.
*That* don't buy taste, does it!
1188
01:25:21,658 --> 01:25:24,616
It's really interesting to see
nowadays if you go to a show
1189
01:25:24,661 --> 01:25:30,031
like Yokohama Mooneyes.
There's so many incredible builds there
1190
01:25:30,125 --> 01:25:33,538
that... a lot of people actually say
that the best customised Harleys
1191
01:25:33,628 --> 01:25:34,584
come from Japan.
1192
01:28:05,113 --> 01:28:07,730
What blew me away about
that bike was that...
1193
01:28:08,491 --> 01:28:12,860
the way he just so effortlessly
encapsulated everything
1194
01:28:12,954 --> 01:28:16,948
in one bike. It was like, woah!
And then he goes back to
1195
01:28:17,041 --> 01:28:19,157
building a chopper or something.
1196
01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:24,456
With builders at the top of
their game, the skill set is
1197
01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:27,257
kind of more than the style.
1198
01:28:28,136 --> 01:28:31,299
One of the most interesting
characters is lan Barry
1199
01:28:31,556 --> 01:28:37,347
of Falcon Motorcycles.
He made 3 or 4 of the most
1200
01:28:37,687 --> 01:28:43,148
beautiful custom bikes ever, selling
for insane amounts of money.
1201
01:28:43,776 --> 01:28:47,895
I like the word friction.
Friction is responsible for
1202
01:28:47,989 --> 01:28:54,281
the conversion of energy so
to not embrace seemingly
1203
01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:58,329
conflicting ideas and trying to
hold them in the same container
1204
01:28:58,499 --> 01:29:00,831
as long as you can,
engineering and art,
1205
01:29:00,918 --> 01:29:03,410
whatever the two are,
they're always there
1206
01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:10,425
but that friction is necessary
and I play with that. I swim in it.
1207
01:29:10,553 --> 01:29:13,045
I antagonise it.
1208
01:29:14,223 --> 01:29:18,012
It's really difficult to
create a signature style.
1209
01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:22,388
But then you get people like
Autofabrica and they've managed to get
1210
01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:25,265
that kind of signature look
and they do it beautifully.
1211
01:29:25,777 --> 01:29:28,109
We've got DNA that we've
developed from very early on
1212
01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:31,405
so it's very easy for us to
apply that same principle
1213
01:29:31,491 --> 01:29:33,983
that same formula to
anything that we build and
1214
01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:37,069
designing a bike that doesn't
conform to a trend but
1215
01:29:37,163 --> 01:29:39,530
almost gives a nod to
whatever design era
1216
01:29:39,582 --> 01:29:41,448
you want that bike to
be applicable for
1217
01:29:42,168 --> 01:29:43,704
and having a modern
take on it.
1218
01:29:43,961 --> 01:29:47,079
We're not constrained by other
people telling us what to do
1219
01:29:47,173 --> 01:29:50,632
or how to design something.
We just come up with an idea
1220
01:29:50,718 --> 01:29:52,675
and just put it in metal.
1221
01:29:53,888 --> 01:29:56,755
The brand, the business,
our skill sets have all evolved
1222
01:29:56,849 --> 01:30:01,093
and it's gone from being
a custom bikes shop
1223
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:06,523
to coach builders. Our skill sets lend
us to coach building a motorcycle.
1224
01:30:06,984 --> 01:30:12,696
So the Type 11 project with Yamaha,
I feel like we've captured a modern
1225
01:30:13,324 --> 01:30:18,364
take on a café racer, dare I say it.
I think every designer's dream
1226
01:30:18,454 --> 01:30:22,118
is to create concepts and
not water them down
1227
01:30:22,208 --> 01:30:27,169
and what we like to think is
that we've created that but we have
1228
01:30:27,255 --> 01:30:29,246
got real world constraints as well.
1229
01:30:33,970 --> 01:30:36,712
One of the most important things
is the marriage of form and function.
1230
01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:40,806
I like to have something
aesthetically pleasing
1231
01:30:42,353 --> 01:30:45,015
but it has to work too and
perform the function so there's
1232
01:30:45,106 --> 01:30:47,723
often that compromise,
the left and right side of the brain,
1233
01:30:47,817 --> 01:30:51,560
which is like turmoil.
Your brain is fighting with itself.
1234
01:30:52,196 --> 01:30:54,107
As an engineer,
the thing that I really enjoy is
1235
01:30:54,198 --> 01:30:55,780
when someone says
‘you can't do that'.
1236
01:30:56,784 --> 01:30:58,240
Fuck you, I'm going to do it!
1237
01:30:58,536 --> 01:31:00,903
When it's not supposed
to work or be that way,
1238
01:31:01,205 --> 01:31:03,572
And you can find a way
to get it all to balance out
1239
01:31:03,666 --> 01:31:06,374
and all to be aesthetic,
all to still function.
1240
01:31:06,794 --> 01:31:10,287
I want somebody to be able
to ride around Europe or America
1241
01:31:10,339 --> 01:31:12,922
on our bikes but if somebody
else wants to do a show bike,
1242
01:31:13,342 --> 01:31:16,460
they may be showing their skills off
rather than talking about a bike
1243
01:31:16,554 --> 01:31:19,342
that's rideable. It's just saying
‘this is a piece of art'.
1244
01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:23,342
Custom bikes are as rideable
as the builder wants them to be.
1245
01:31:23,686 --> 01:31:25,427
The first thing is,
they all have to work
1246
01:31:25,771 --> 01:31:27,307
so I ride them all.
They all work.
1247
01:31:27,523 --> 01:31:29,685
Even if it's going in a museum,
that's a given.
1248
01:31:30,026 --> 01:31:33,894
Every part on a bike has
got to work perfectly.
1249
01:31:34,363 --> 01:31:37,947
I want my bikes to be
ridden as hard as possible
1250
01:31:38,326 --> 01:31:40,237
and that's typically
what I tell my clients.
1251
01:31:40,912 --> 01:31:44,530
I put several hundred
miles on your bike before
1252
01:31:45,166 --> 01:31:50,036
I gave it to you and now I want
you to ride the piss out of it.
1253
01:31:50,630 --> 01:31:55,215
I can think of nothing worse
than just to sit and look at it.
1254
01:31:56,385 --> 01:31:59,423
I'm flattered and also
insulted, simultaneously.
1255
01:32:00,348 --> 01:32:04,057
A bike has to have its look,
its image, but I think
1256
01:32:04,101 --> 01:32:10,097
that a bike that's not ridden is
defeating its purpose for being.
1257
01:32:10,775 --> 01:32:13,608
At this point, I would
like to create machines
1258
01:32:13,819 --> 01:32:16,902
that are less of a motorcycle
for people to ride
1259
01:32:17,323 --> 01:32:19,405
and more of a
kinetic art piece.
1260
01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:21,820
Fun to create and also
fun for the viewer
1261
01:32:22,036 --> 01:32:24,869
to figure out how it works
and spark the curiosity
1262
01:32:24,956 --> 01:32:28,950
‘cause my entire existence
in this culture is
1263
01:32:29,126 --> 01:32:31,413
revolving around my curiosity
of how things work.
1264
01:32:31,879 --> 01:32:35,622
A lot of custom bikes back
in the day were artistic
1265
01:32:35,716 --> 01:32:38,458
rather than functional I think.
1266
01:32:39,178 --> 01:32:42,671
There's an old thing though,
if it looks right it usually is right.
1267
01:32:43,182 --> 01:32:49,098
Form following function and everything
and yeah the market has changed.
1268
01:32:50,231 --> 01:32:51,721
For the better. I guess.
1269
01:32:53,192 --> 01:32:56,230
I think that putting
anything in a museum changes
1270
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,529
how people look at it.
I see no distinction between
1271
01:32:59,615 --> 01:33:03,153
art and engineering. You can make pure art
1272
01:33:03,411 --> 01:33:06,403
without engineering but
anything that has to do with
1273
01:33:06,581 --> 01:33:08,413
construction has engineering involved.
1274
01:33:09,208 --> 01:33:11,245
This is perhaps the art of engineering.
1275
01:33:12,169 --> 01:33:13,284
Or the engineering of art!
1276
01:33:13,671 --> 01:33:15,127
They're intimately entwined.
1277
01:33:15,631 --> 01:33:20,501
The Custom Revolution exhibition
is an exhibit of 24 motorcycles
1278
01:33:20,595 --> 01:33:25,089
from around the world.
A remarkably diverse collection.
1279
01:33:25,349 --> 01:33:28,137
Peak examples of a renaissance
that's happened in motorcycle
1280
01:33:28,227 --> 01:33:29,809
culture in the last 10 years.
1281
01:33:30,021 --> 01:33:34,606
I was asked by the Petersen Museum
if I was interested in helping them
1282
01:33:35,026 --> 01:33:38,564
put together a show so it
was amazing to bring
1283
01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:40,938
all that stuff into an
actual museum.
1284
01:33:41,282 --> 01:33:43,819
There's been a lot of shows but
there's never been a museum show
1285
01:33:44,327 --> 01:33:50,243
featuring this scene and it doesn't
represent any particular style
1286
01:33:50,791 --> 01:33:55,035
but it does represent a movement
and a cultural moment.
1287
01:33:55,129 --> 01:33:58,292
I've been calling this a
renaissance in motorcycle culture
1288
01:33:58,883 --> 01:34:01,250
the likes of which we
haven't seen since the 70s.
1289
01:34:01,594 --> 01:34:04,962
So in this instance,
I'm hoping that framing them
1290
01:34:05,056 --> 01:34:09,345
within a museum will make people
think a little bit differently
1291
01:34:09,435 --> 01:34:11,301
about what's happening with motorcycles.
1292
01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:14,270
They're eccentric,
each one is unique,
1293
01:34:14,690 --> 01:34:17,978
but they're design objects.
They all needed to be special
1294
01:34:18,611 --> 01:34:21,729
so I thought 'we need wow bikes".
1295
01:34:24,283 --> 01:34:30,450
So what connects all these motorcycles
is a purity of vision and intention
1296
01:34:30,873 --> 01:34:34,616
but mostly it's the success of
how they've realised their ideas.
1297
01:34:35,044 --> 01:34:40,255
These trends will go away
but the style remains.
1298
01:34:41,092 --> 01:34:45,211
It's one of the first times that
I've been aware in the motor industry
1299
01:34:45,304 --> 01:34:49,047
where manufacturers have actually
listened to what people want.
1300
01:34:49,725 --> 01:34:53,138
Before, it was 'this is what you need',
this is what you must have'
1301
01:34:53,229 --> 01:34:56,438
Now it's 'shit we've got to work out
what you guys want
1302
01:34:56,524 --> 01:34:58,185
otherwise you're going to buy
the other man's one.'
1303
01:34:58,609 --> 01:35:03,820
If you look at Yamaha,
BMW, Triumph, Moto Guzzi,
1304
01:35:04,073 --> 01:35:08,408
they are actively courting
the custom scene.
1305
01:35:08,828 --> 01:35:12,321
If it wouldn't have been
for this whole scene,
1306
01:35:12,832 --> 01:35:14,948
I think we would never have
made a Nine T for example.
1307
01:35:16,085 --> 01:35:19,953
But when we started seeing the
shift towards these kind of bikes,
1308
01:35:20,047 --> 01:35:24,132
then you saw this whole new wave
custom scene, that triggered us
1309
01:35:24,635 --> 01:35:27,172
to start working on a
bike like that on our own.
1310
01:35:27,221 --> 01:35:29,553
We saw that there's definitely
an audience out there
1311
01:35:30,349 --> 01:35:36,846
We are more or less 30% of the
total sales of the company.
1312
01:35:37,314 --> 01:35:43,105
Until now, we sold something
like 46,000 bikes.
1313
01:35:43,779 --> 01:35:47,488
We've always been in the custom
scene, from the very beginning.
1314
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,068
Some of our first parts and accessories
date back to the early 1900s.
1315
01:35:52,371 --> 01:35:55,284
So within just a few years
of the company coming alive,
1316
01:35:55,666 --> 01:36:00,206
there was ways to make the
motorcycle different, custom.
1317
01:36:01,213 --> 01:36:04,296
When you buy a Harley,
it's basically the down payment
1318
01:36:04,341 --> 01:36:06,799
and then people load it up
with all the accessories.
1319
01:36:07,261 --> 01:36:09,468
I think that's part of the reason
Harley is so successful.
1320
01:36:09,722 --> 01:36:13,966
Because you're buying a factory bike,
but then you can spend another $15,000
1321
01:36:14,059 --> 01:36:16,642
on trinkets.
Triumph has just noticed that.
1322
01:36:16,937 --> 01:36:20,350
They now do the Bobber,
they'll be 150 accessories for it.
1323
01:36:20,649 --> 01:36:23,232
So that's their approach
to the custom scene.
1324
01:36:23,694 --> 01:36:26,777
I was working on a bike in
the background and I wanted
1325
01:36:26,864 --> 01:36:30,323
to do a series, I contacted Triumph
France to get some bikes.
1326
01:36:30,743 --> 01:36:34,407
They told me no, we don't give
you bikes because we have our own
1327
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:39,995
package to custom the bikes directly
in the shop, in the Triumph shop.
1328
01:36:41,212 --> 01:36:43,920
That's not custom, of
course, it's accessories.
1329
01:36:44,340 --> 01:36:46,752
I've just bought a new van,
I went to the showroom and I
1330
01:36:46,842 --> 01:36:49,504
specced my van out.
I could say I've got a custom van
1331
01:36:49,595 --> 01:36:51,506
because I've got this,
that and the other on it
1332
01:36:51,597 --> 01:36:52,883
but it's not a bloody custom is it?
1333
01:36:53,182 --> 01:36:55,719
If the scene is offered
to you on a plate,
1334
01:36:55,976 --> 01:36:58,468
and the manufacturer says
'here's the bike, here's the helmet
1335
01:36:58,562 --> 01:37:01,805
here's the jacket, go off,
live your own dream.'
1336
01:37:02,608 --> 01:37:04,474
If you want to buy into that, fantastic.
1337
01:37:04,902 --> 01:37:09,692
When a movement gains speed,
larger companies will want to try
1338
01:37:09,740 --> 01:37:13,108
and capitalise on that movement
because there's going to be people
1339
01:37:13,410 --> 01:37:18,576
who literally can't afford
artisan, one-off produced
1340
01:37:18,833 --> 01:37:23,418
motorcycles 'cause they cost
a lot of money so if you can buy a
1341
01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:27,296
custom bike for £10k,
then that's brilliant.
1342
01:37:27,508 --> 01:37:30,876
I think it depends on whether
they're doing it as tokenism,
1343
01:37:31,053 --> 01:37:34,216
or whether they're doing it in
some way that they actually
1344
01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:37,427
believe in it.
Some brands do it very well,
1345
01:37:37,601 --> 01:37:39,933
but others just pretend to do it.
1346
01:37:40,813 --> 01:37:43,896
That's not what this is all about
for me and people like me.
1347
01:37:44,024 --> 01:37:46,891
It's not what it's about.
Nice things to look at but
1348
01:37:47,027 --> 01:37:48,483
there's no heart and there's no soul.
1349
01:37:49,196 --> 01:37:52,484
The real hardcore guys that will
build bikes, they always stay
1350
01:37:52,575 --> 01:37:55,158
below the radar and they're
building their own bikes and
1351
01:37:55,244 --> 01:37:57,201
they don't give a shit
what the brands do.
1352
01:37:57,454 --> 01:38:02,164
It has to be one person,
with one vision, working on
1353
01:38:02,585 --> 01:38:06,954
a concept. It's not a corporation
that says a custom bike should
1354
01:38:07,047 --> 01:38:10,005
look like X,Y,Z.
Oh we're going to make 10,000 of them.
1355
01:38:10,259 --> 01:38:13,468
Or even 10 of them.
It's a one off.
1356
01:38:14,430 --> 01:38:18,344
It's the line between
true life and lifestyle
1357
01:38:18,726 --> 01:38:20,717
and true community and corporate.
1358
01:38:21,020 --> 01:38:25,856
Essentially, what the manufacturers
are doing are using us to sell bikes.
1359
01:38:26,483 --> 01:38:29,225
Custom bikes that have been
funded by manufacturers
1360
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:35,441
to appeal to an audience...
Is that marketing gone mad or
1361
01:38:36,035 --> 01:38:40,529
does it defy what it actually
means to have a custom bike?
1362
01:38:41,332 --> 01:38:45,121
A perfect example of that is a
manufacturer making a Bobber.
1363
01:38:45,336 --> 01:38:46,826
When you think about that...
1364
01:38:47,212 --> 01:38:50,295
So that Bobber's possibly the
worst bike I've ever seen
1365
01:38:50,507 --> 01:38:56,173
in my life. It's just the front half
of the Bonneville with no thought
1366
01:38:56,263 --> 01:38:59,631
applied to the rear end of it
and the one thing that really
1367
01:38:59,725 --> 01:39:03,309
fucks me off about companies
like that is, change the name of bikes.
1368
01:39:03,562 --> 01:39:06,020
Don't call a bike a Bobber
because that is a style of bike.
1369
01:39:06,899 --> 01:39:08,185
And now if you Google
Triumph Bobber,
1370
01:39:08,275 --> 01:39:12,234
their fucking bike comes up and
you wanna see Triumph Bobbers.
1371
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:17,650
I don't think it comes through
as genuine to people in these
1372
01:39:17,701 --> 01:39:21,239
sub-cultures. I think they feel
like it's a money grab and
1373
01:39:21,747 --> 01:39:24,580
it turns a lot of people off
because we all got into this
1374
01:39:24,667 --> 01:39:27,830
because it was something different.
You don't want to be in a parking lot
1375
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,958
with 50 of the same bike.
You want yours to stand out,
1376
01:39:31,048 --> 01:39:32,880
you want it to be yours.
1377
01:39:33,342 --> 01:39:37,131
It's really easy if you are
in a scene that's really
1378
01:39:37,388 --> 01:39:41,052
quite niche and quite cool
to get quite uppity when other
1379
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:43,512
people start coming along and
going 'l'll have a piece of that'.
1380
01:39:43,727 --> 01:39:46,219
And the manufacturers come on board
then the brands come on board.
1381
01:39:46,522 --> 01:39:50,686
And this scene, the secret of its
continued survival is evolution.
1382
01:39:51,193 --> 01:39:54,026
And to keep moving and the
manufacturers coming on board
1383
01:39:54,113 --> 01:39:56,696
is part of that evolution.
We should embrace it.
1384
01:39:57,157 --> 01:40:00,445
But I think it's important for
manufacturers to understand
1385
01:40:00,828 --> 01:40:03,536
a new blood that is
getting into the industry
1386
01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,872
and it going to take us forward.
We know that we need to
1387
01:40:07,251 --> 01:40:11,370
stay away but be part of it
without being too...
1388
01:40:12,047 --> 01:40:14,960
Now the manufacturers are
taking note of this and seeing
1389
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:17,962
what an appetite there is
for custom bikes that they're
1390
01:40:18,053 --> 01:40:21,762
starting to do it themselves.
Commercially, that's very sensible,
1391
01:40:22,099 --> 01:40:27,970
but there's still always going to be
that appetite for there only being one.
1392
01:40:29,565 --> 01:40:32,853
You'll never see another one like it.
That's pretty powerful.
1393
01:40:33,861 --> 01:40:37,980
The custom motorcycle scene has totally
revolutionised the motorcycle industry.
1394
01:40:38,282 --> 01:40:42,446
The motorcycle industry was in the
doldrums and sales were way down,
1395
01:40:42,703 --> 01:40:46,822
and there is no enthusiasm
and new ridership is way down.
1396
01:40:47,041 --> 01:40:49,874
It's a sign that there's a
big problem in the industry.
1397
01:40:50,294 --> 01:40:56,381
So the custom scene has been
a life force. It's injected new life
1398
01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:59,209
into the motorcycle industry
and that's really exciting.
1399
01:40:59,470 --> 01:41:04,260
What a cool place to be,
to be changing the direction
1400
01:41:04,349 --> 01:41:07,387
of a many billion
dollar global industry.
1401
01:41:15,277 --> 01:41:19,066
We have this official
customisation programme.
1402
01:41:19,698 --> 01:41:22,656
We work with builders
around the world.
1403
01:41:22,951 --> 01:41:25,238
It's one of the ways in which
we can both support
1404
01:41:25,662 --> 01:41:28,199
and encourage the custom
ecosystem that way.
1405
01:41:28,999 --> 01:41:32,367
Within India, Royal Enfield has
been the most customised
1406
01:41:32,419 --> 01:41:34,410
motorcycle for a very long time.
1407
01:41:34,922 --> 01:41:40,167
The world of customisation
allows us to maybe be seen
1408
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,718
by people who wouldn't necessarily
have considered our brand.
1409
01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:46,138
There's a lot more to Royal Enfield
and by doing these customs,
1410
01:41:46,225 --> 01:41:49,013
we can hopefully broaden people's
perception of what that is.
1411
01:41:49,770 --> 01:41:55,766
So the Sinroja brothers were an
interesting coming together of things
1412
01:41:56,777 --> 01:42:00,645
quite accidentally.
Rahul and Birju are Indian brothers,
1413
01:42:01,073 --> 01:42:03,314
Indian company,
everybody's living in Leicester...
1414
01:42:03,951 --> 01:42:06,488
I love the story about the fact
that we were Indians,
1415
01:42:06,620 --> 01:42:08,486
we grew up with these bikes,
we grew up in India,
1416
01:42:08,831 --> 01:42:11,869
we were set free to
do whatever we want
1417
01:42:12,292 --> 01:42:15,910
as long as it was a cool idea,
they were always on board.
1418
01:42:16,547 --> 01:42:20,461
It was more like friends
just handing out building bikes
1419
01:42:20,926 --> 01:42:23,213
rather than a corporate giant
saying 'here's a bit of money,
1420
01:42:23,303 --> 01:42:24,919
do that, I'll see you in
two months time."
1421
01:42:25,264 --> 01:42:30,634
Basically, we were approached by
Adrian from Royal Enfield saying
1422
01:42:30,894 --> 01:42:35,013
would I be interested in working
with them and we would be getting
1423
01:42:35,315 --> 01:42:39,934
the Interceptor to work on and
obviously we jumped at the opportunity.
1424
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:43,279
The guys at Royal Enfield have
got an amazing team.
1425
01:42:44,158 --> 01:42:48,277
I'm not being paid to say this,
but they're all genuinely
1426
01:42:48,495 --> 01:42:52,614
enthusiastic and
interested in motorcycles.
1427
01:42:52,958 --> 01:42:56,371
We don't place a strong
limitation of any sort
1428
01:42:56,420 --> 01:43:00,459
on the builder. For us, we have
our motor, there in the bike.
1429
01:43:00,591 --> 01:43:03,458
That's the core of that bike,
it's the motor.
1430
01:43:03,802 --> 01:43:06,385
Just keep some of the character
but we're not going to tell you to
1431
01:43:07,139 --> 01:43:12,725
limit your creative vision because
of some idea that makes a difference
1432
01:43:13,145 --> 01:43:16,888
because it doesn't in the end.
Motorcycles are cool.
1433
01:43:17,733 --> 01:43:20,395
The cooler the motorcycle,
the more people will like it.
1434
01:43:21,862 --> 01:43:23,523
Please make us a cool motorcycle.
1435
01:43:24,907 --> 01:43:29,026
With in house builds like Lock Stock,
those are where we want to really
1436
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:32,532
push the capability of the
bikes to the next level.
1437
01:43:32,789 --> 01:43:37,625
This is why we bring in Harris,
because they are chassis masters.
1438
01:43:38,128 --> 01:43:41,416
This has been great,
yeah it's been really good.
1439
01:43:41,798 --> 01:43:45,132
It's created a lot of interest
within our factory because
1440
01:43:45,344 --> 01:43:49,133
we haven't done a drag race before
so, perhaps I shouldn't say this,
1441
01:43:49,181 --> 01:43:52,299
I think it's come out pretty well
so we're all quite proud of it.
1442
01:43:52,684 --> 01:43:58,521
This was a competition/custom bike
so it needed to look nice as well.
1443
01:44:09,826 --> 01:44:16,368
In terms of creativity, El Solitario of
Spain, they're in a different league.
1444
01:44:17,376 --> 01:44:19,333
They march to the beat
of a different drum.
1445
01:44:20,212 --> 01:44:24,706
They make truly amazing
machines, really controversial,
1446
01:44:25,425 --> 01:44:28,713
We have a voice in the
motorcycle world and
1447
01:44:29,513 --> 01:44:32,471
for good or for bad,
but at least we have the right
1448
01:44:32,557 --> 01:44:35,845
to choose who we work
with and with that voice,
1449
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,636
we decide how we use it.
1450
01:44:39,231 --> 01:44:43,020
So we realised we were
strong at communicating and
1451
01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:46,819
working with others so that's
how the Desert Wolves were born.
1452
01:44:48,657 --> 01:44:50,989
When we first started
talking about Desert Wolves,
1453
01:44:51,994 --> 01:44:54,577
everything seemed so complicated.
We were so excited,
1454
01:44:54,663 --> 01:44:57,451
we couldn't believe we were going
to make such a dream project.
1455
01:44:57,499 --> 01:45:03,336
It was too beautiful to be true
and too difficult to be possible,
1456
01:45:03,380 --> 01:45:07,214
it seemed to us.
And one thing we love at El Solitario
1457
01:45:07,259 --> 01:45:09,500
is jumping into the void.
1458
01:45:09,678 --> 01:45:15,515
When we start a project,
we have to be loyal to ourselves
1459
01:45:15,642 --> 01:45:21,729
and to what El Solitario is,
and brands want to work with us,
1460
01:45:22,357 --> 01:45:24,189
it's because they like what we do.
1461
01:45:24,443 --> 01:45:29,984
The motto of the Desert
Wolves was collaboration.
1462
01:45:30,282 --> 01:45:33,946
It was the central axis
of the adventure.
1463
01:45:34,369 --> 01:45:38,203
We wanted to do absolutely
everything, from the helmets
1464
01:45:38,290 --> 01:45:41,703
to the bags, to the tents,
to the motorcycles
1465
01:45:42,419 --> 01:45:45,502
When David from El Solitario
approached us for his
1466
01:45:45,589 --> 01:45:48,297
Desert Wolves project,
he was looking for a very cool
1467
01:45:48,342 --> 01:45:51,255
looking fabric so we wanted
to develop a comfortable,
1468
01:45:51,345 --> 01:45:54,679
lightweight, protective denim
that even passes the CE standard.
1469
01:45:55,182 --> 01:45:59,551
We had been flirting for
a while with El Solitario.
1470
01:46:00,103 --> 01:46:03,687
He approached us to say
'we're trying to do a project
1471
01:46:03,857 --> 01:46:07,191
which is trying to show a
more adventurous side of
1472
01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:10,277
a motorcycle and we think
it should be a Harley'.
1473
01:46:10,447 --> 01:46:12,905
I said 'OK let's
do an adventure'.
1474
01:46:13,033 --> 01:46:15,491
Of course, it's El Solitario
so there's a high level
1475
01:46:15,577 --> 01:46:18,820
of abnormality. We're going to
go to somewhere impossible
1476
01:46:18,914 --> 01:46:21,155
with an impossible motorcycle
and impossible clothes but
1477
01:46:21,249 --> 01:46:25,243
it's going to work. Let's leave
Western civilisation and get into
1478
01:46:25,462 --> 01:46:27,749
the sands of the Sahara.
1479
01:46:29,633 --> 01:46:32,842
We like their attitude because
they're that embodiment rider,
1480
01:46:33,011 --> 01:46:36,129
the hooligan approach
to Dakar riding.
1481
01:46:36,848 --> 01:46:40,136
Imagine for Harley Davidson to
develop a scrambler programme
1482
01:46:40,769 --> 01:46:43,852
make it real, that would
cost millions.
1483
01:46:44,815 --> 01:46:51,778
So we're actually a very economic
way of exploring future options.
1484
01:46:52,906 --> 01:46:58,197
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1485
01:49:29,563 --> 01:49:32,772
We've been really amazed at how
well the bikes were performing
1486
01:49:32,983 --> 01:49:36,021
in the rocky terrain, harsh
conditions, warm temperatures,
1487
01:49:36,736 --> 01:49:40,604
and we also know they're
pretty rough riders
1488
01:49:40,991 --> 01:49:43,278
so they were giving the
bikes a good beating but
1489
01:49:44,202 --> 01:49:46,990
there were no major issues,
that was a good sign of confidence
1490
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:48,536
as well in our bikes.
1491
01:49:50,500 --> 01:49:53,663
[MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND]
1492
01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:25,884
We road them home, that's unbelievable,
I mean all the shit we went through,
1493
01:51:26,054 --> 01:51:29,217
yeah they survived.
It was hard, it was fucking hard,
1494
01:51:29,474 --> 01:51:32,432
It was a huge adventure, a real one.
It was a fucking real one.
1495
01:51:32,602 --> 01:51:34,809
And we survived ten days
in the desert.
1496
01:51:35,772 --> 01:51:37,638
I never enjoy the victories
when they happen,
1497
01:51:37,941 --> 01:51:40,729
I enjoy the victories
afterwards, in the aftermath.
1498
01:51:40,819 --> 01:51:46,064
And even after a war, I can't,
I just don't see it happening.
1499
01:51:46,241 --> 01:51:51,236
I need some... relax to be like,
fuck, we did it.
1500
01:51:53,540 --> 01:51:55,952
Things can only really be
sharp and on the edge
1501
01:51:56,292 --> 01:52:00,126
and cool when they're small.
As soon as it gets too big,
1502
01:52:00,547 --> 01:52:03,084
it's too diluted, it's just
not fresh any more
1503
01:52:03,174 --> 01:52:06,633
and that happens with everything.
So yeah, the bigger it gets,
1504
01:52:07,512 --> 01:52:09,719
the blunter it gets, I guess.
1505
01:52:10,473 --> 01:52:14,091
I think that the great
shame in any phenomenon
1506
01:52:14,227 --> 01:52:18,812
is when it gets rooted in itself.
You can disappear up your own arse
1507
01:52:18,898 --> 01:52:22,266
in a puff of niche smoke if you're
not careful. You've got to evolve.
1508
01:52:22,569 --> 01:52:25,186
Because it can't stand still.
If it stands still, it will die,
1509
01:52:26,364 --> 01:52:28,230
which it nearly did in 2008.
1510
01:52:28,992 --> 01:52:31,609
Have we crested the wave?
Are we on the back side of the wave?
1511
01:52:31,661 --> 01:52:34,403
Or the front side?
I'm really intrigued
1512
01:52:34,497 --> 01:52:37,034
with how things will change
but they will change.
1513
01:52:37,459 --> 01:52:41,794
As long as there's motorcycles on the
road, there'll be custom motorcycles.
1514
01:52:42,338 --> 01:52:44,875
And I think the scene
will adapt and change
1515
01:52:45,008 --> 01:52:46,498
through different kinds of trends.
1516
01:52:47,302 --> 01:52:51,637
Like many other things,
social media has opened the window
1517
01:52:51,723 --> 01:52:55,387
on any niche worldwide
and there's guys interested.
1518
01:52:55,810 --> 01:52:58,643
I thought it was going to
do like a fucking souffle.
1519
01:52:59,105 --> 01:53:03,224
The only risk is if it goes too much,
we lose the spirit, the philosophy.
1520
01:53:03,443 --> 01:53:05,525
It is tricky because
I feel the same way.
1521
01:53:05,612 --> 01:53:09,480
I get scared. The bigger it gets,
the bigger it's going to eat itself.
1522
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,033
If something's really good,
then everybody likes it,
1523
01:53:13,328 --> 01:53:16,161
and it gets bigger and bigger,
and then becomes this
1524
01:53:16,498 --> 01:53:19,536
great big snowball
careering out of control.
1525
01:53:19,751 --> 01:53:22,459
The internet speeds up
evolution too quickly
1526
01:53:23,129 --> 01:53:26,588
and we should've been allowed
to have 10 or 15 years
1527
01:53:26,716 --> 01:53:29,879
before it got bitten into by
the big corporate companies
1528
01:53:29,969 --> 01:53:33,587
and then it becomes generic
and they white wash it all and
1529
01:53:33,681 --> 01:53:36,639
it becomes a pastiche of itself.
1530
01:53:36,893 --> 01:53:40,761
You say people buy cheap
motorcycles and fix them up
1531
01:53:40,814 --> 01:53:42,851
but I don't see that
nearly as much as
1532
01:53:42,899 --> 01:53:45,231
I see people buying
$10,000 motorcycles
1533
01:53:45,318 --> 01:53:48,481
on a credit card and you see it
at things like Babes Ride Out.
1534
01:53:48,655 --> 01:53:52,444
90% of people are on a Triumph
Bonneville or a Harley 883.
1535
01:53:52,784 --> 01:53:54,775
They're not on anything
other than that.
1536
01:53:55,453 --> 01:53:58,195
So it's a new world in that way.
1537
01:53:58,540 --> 01:54:00,326
It's not a sub-culture
any more though is it?
1538
01:54:00,583 --> 01:54:03,166
If you want to keep something
super niche and to yourself,
1539
01:54:03,628 --> 01:54:04,868
fuck off and do it on your own.
1540
01:54:05,463 --> 01:54:07,921
People who are opening a
restaurant or a cafe,
1541
01:54:08,007 --> 01:54:09,918
think about opening a
motorcycle cafe.
1542
01:54:10,510 --> 01:54:13,502
Anybody who's got a
garage and a blow torch
1543
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,593
is now a custom bike builder.
You have to remember,
1544
01:54:16,891 --> 01:54:20,384
that to build one, it's a
tremendous amount of time
1545
01:54:20,478 --> 01:54:24,642
and cost for someone goes
into that so I think there will
1546
01:54:24,732 --> 01:54:30,102
only ever be a certain audience
for whom they have the capacity
1547
01:54:30,196 --> 01:54:32,062
to undertake those
kinds of projects,
1548
01:54:32,490 --> 01:54:34,606
either as the consumer or the builder.
1549
01:54:34,951 --> 01:54:38,069
We don't want to be part of
the mainstream like everyone else
1550
01:54:38,204 --> 01:54:40,662
and as soon as this
custom motorcycle scene
1551
01:54:40,748 --> 01:54:44,036
that we've all been part of
and loved since we were Kids,
1552
01:54:44,586 --> 01:54:48,955
becomes the cool thing,
I think we're probably going to shun it.
1553
01:54:49,090 --> 01:54:52,173
Not motorcycles themselves, 'cause
I'm always going to ride a motorbike
1554
01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:53,796
and I'm always going
to work on my own bikes
1555
01:54:53,887 --> 01:54:55,594
and build my own bikes,
and so are my friends.
1556
01:54:56,139 --> 01:54:58,471
For me, I'm just going to be
in my workshop, drinking beers
1557
01:54:58,558 --> 01:55:00,890
and working on bikes really.
I don't give a shit where
1558
01:55:00,977 --> 01:55:03,844
the scene goes. I'm not too
worried about where it goes
1559
01:55:03,938 --> 01:55:05,269
or how it goes or
how it gets there.
1560
01:55:06,024 --> 01:55:08,231
Seeing what everyone else
is doing and pushing yourself
1561
01:55:08,318 --> 01:55:11,527
away while adding and pushing
forward into something else,
1562
01:55:11,613 --> 01:55:15,151
is constantly racing away
from that tsunami of
1563
01:55:15,241 --> 01:55:16,527
mass culture, I guess.
1564
01:55:17,410 --> 01:55:21,745
Lots of people we know who are
very famous have become quite quiet.
1565
01:55:22,457 --> 01:55:25,825
We used to notice they're very hard at
work and they've stepped back and
1566
01:55:25,919 --> 01:55:28,707
are thinking about what they're
doing and we've seen this year
1567
01:55:28,838 --> 01:55:32,251
bike builders drop out
and close their doors.
1568
01:55:32,634 --> 01:55:35,001
I think everyone's starting
think, well where we going next?
1569
01:55:35,303 --> 01:55:36,668
What's coming next?
What are we going to do?
1570
01:55:37,013 --> 01:55:39,926
How's this going to evolve,
grow and keep on going?
1571
01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:43,843
And it will, but it's just
how it's going to happen.
1572
01:55:44,354 --> 01:55:46,140
Personally,
I don't have any option.
1573
01:55:46,898 --> 01:55:50,857
I don't have any training or
qualifications in any other direction.
1574
01:55:51,736 --> 01:55:56,446
I don't have any fall back,
there is no pension, there is no
1575
01:55:57,283 --> 01:56:01,026
whatever, social security.
Nothing. So there's just
1576
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:05,079
doing it forever. There is no plan.
1577
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:08,708
Let's be honest, the combustion
engine is not going to be around
1578
01:56:09,128 --> 01:56:14,464
for that long so let's enjoy it
while we've got what we've got
1579
01:56:14,759 --> 01:56:16,545
and then when the
next thing comes along,
1580
01:56:17,011 --> 01:56:20,254
let's make that great and the
people who do adapt
1581
01:56:20,348 --> 01:56:24,057
are going to be the ones who
will always be the trend setters,
1582
01:56:24,185 --> 01:56:26,597
or the ones who come up
with exciting new ideas
1583
01:56:26,938 --> 01:56:27,928
and I'd like to be one of them.
1584
01:56:28,523 --> 01:56:30,514
I'd love to get my hands on
an electric bike and try
1585
01:56:30,608 --> 01:56:32,690
customising an electric bike
because I definitely think that
1586
01:56:32,777 --> 01:56:37,237
electric bikes are very close to
being where we're headed.
1587
01:56:37,532 --> 01:56:42,572
Once you are understanding that today,
the guy who lives in Santa Monica
1588
01:56:43,413 --> 01:56:45,324
is connected to the guy
that lives in Milan,
1589
01:56:45,915 --> 01:56:49,249
and the guy who lives in Jakarta,
and understand that the problems
1590
01:56:49,544 --> 01:56:52,707
we have right now facing us,
they're all the same.
1591
01:56:53,214 --> 01:56:57,424
Then electric bikes or alternative
vehicles, as we call them,
1592
01:56:58,052 --> 01:56:59,338
make a lot of sense.
1593
01:57:00,013 --> 01:57:02,801
Electric bikes are here
and they're viable
1594
01:57:02,890 --> 01:57:04,551
and they're a lot of
fun to ride because
1595
01:57:04,642 --> 01:57:06,849
they have 100% torque at ORPM.
1596
01:57:07,186 --> 01:57:09,177
That's a recipe for Yee ha!
1597
01:57:09,939 --> 01:57:12,146
I would like to see more
customisers embrace
1598
01:57:12,650 --> 01:57:15,062
electric bikes and think
about other things.
1599
01:57:15,528 --> 01:57:17,895
Try something new. If you're
taking this much time and
1600
01:57:17,989 --> 01:57:20,697
energy into it, let's
make a real impact
1601
01:57:21,325 --> 01:57:24,317
on the industry and not
just a style impact,
1602
01:57:24,787 --> 01:57:27,028
maybe there's room for
an engineering impact too.
1603
01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:49,593
To be honest, I'm quite
intrigued with electric vehicles.
1604
01:57:49,771 --> 01:57:51,728
I've been studying them
a little while now
1605
01:57:52,398 --> 01:57:53,809
and they do interest me.
1606
01:57:53,941 --> 01:57:57,184
The silent revolution... and it's
going to sneak up on us
1607
01:57:57,278 --> 01:57:58,985
and we're not going to be
aware of it but it's going to
1608
01:57:59,072 --> 01:58:01,939
suddenly take over and I'm all for it.
I think it's great.
1609
01:58:02,158 --> 01:58:05,651
That means we can ride
stealth and we can ride free
1610
01:58:05,828 --> 01:58:08,490
without having the
Cops On our ass.
1611
01:58:09,540 --> 01:58:13,499
You're going to go to jail if they
catch you with a motorcycle
1612
01:58:13,711 --> 01:58:16,544
in the forest but on an electric
one, they can't catch you
1613
01:58:17,715 --> 01:58:18,921
because they can't hear you.
1614
01:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,042
It's kind of the shitty thing
about human beings, right.
1615
01:58:23,805 --> 01:58:27,298
The know change is necessary
but you give them ten steps of
1616
01:58:27,725 --> 01:58:29,807
how to change things and
they're all painful
1617
01:58:29,936 --> 01:58:32,803
things to address, nobody
is going to fucking do it.
1618
01:58:33,231 --> 01:58:36,474
So if you give them something
that's easy and understandable
1619
01:58:36,567 --> 01:58:39,025
and exciting, then change
is imminent, you know.
1620
01:58:39,529 --> 01:58:41,770
We have all these
manufacturers building bikes,
1621
01:58:42,198 --> 01:58:44,439
watching people
lose riding spaces,
1622
01:58:44,534 --> 01:58:46,741
watching people lose
access to tracks,
1623
01:58:47,537 --> 01:58:48,823
and nobody's doing
anything about it.
1624
01:58:48,913 --> 01:58:53,498
But they're iterating on technology
to the tiniest percentage
1625
01:58:53,626 --> 01:58:57,460
to sell you a new bike,
but they're not addressing the need
1626
01:58:57,547 --> 01:59:02,007
for an electric power train or
a quiet bike or the ability to
1627
01:59:02,510 --> 01:59:05,969
reconfigure your investment in
a way that makes it sustainable
1628
01:59:06,055 --> 01:59:08,217
or OK for the modern world.
1629
01:59:08,724 --> 01:59:11,011
Sooner or later there's
going to be a mainstream
1630
01:59:11,394 --> 01:59:14,978
electric motorbike that's going
to have all the boxes ticked
1631
01:59:15,064 --> 01:59:18,648
and everyone will be like
'yves, I get it now,
1632
01:59:18,776 --> 01:59:20,687
makes sense,
I want one of those!"
1633
01:59:21,279 --> 01:59:25,364
It may not replace their garage
full of stinky two strokes
1634
01:59:25,533 --> 01:59:29,572
but if it can stand on
its own two wheels...
1635
01:59:30,705 --> 01:59:33,493
Anyway, you want to be
future-proof, in a way as well.
1636
01:59:33,749 --> 01:59:37,333
It's interesting if you look at a
product that we've done like Live Wire,
1637
01:59:37,712 --> 01:59:41,421
which is our first electric Harley.
If you have the opportunity to ride
1638
01:59:41,507 --> 01:59:45,171
a Live Wire, you'll have a blast.
It's good fun to ride,
1639
01:59:45,386 --> 01:59:48,253
very futuristic and it does
add to the emotional
1640
01:59:49,182 --> 01:59:50,388
experience on the bike.
1641
01:59:50,474 --> 01:59:52,681
The only thing restricting
electric bikes at the moment
1642
01:59:52,768 --> 01:59:56,432
is the stigma attached to it.
There's a new technology there.
1643
01:59:56,856 --> 02:00:00,850
The world's changing and
you can embrace that or not,
1644
02:00:00,985 --> 02:00:05,024
but those that embrace it will
be producing some fantastic bikes
1645
02:00:06,032 --> 02:00:07,864
that won't have an
internal combustion engine.
1646
02:00:08,159 --> 02:00:10,526
The biggest thing was the
potential behind them.
1647
02:00:10,745 --> 02:00:13,703
What can we build here?
We don't have to adhere by
1648
02:00:13,789 --> 02:00:15,496
any of the things that
we have to worry about.
1649
02:00:15,791 --> 02:00:18,408
I can chuck away the rule book.
I don't have to worry about exhausts,
1650
02:00:18,544 --> 02:00:21,957
heat, vibration, fuel, oil, nothing.
1651
02:00:22,131 --> 02:00:27,217
It's a really interesting prospect
and that's what I'm looking forward to
1652
02:00:27,303 --> 02:00:28,759
from a customising point of view.
1653
02:00:29,472 --> 02:00:35,889
Right now, this question of
what is next, the notion of
1654
02:00:35,978 --> 02:00:38,345
a true motorcycle for
the 21st century,
1655
02:00:38,981 --> 02:00:42,599
which I haven't seen,
which doesn't exist.
1656
02:00:43,611 --> 02:00:48,026
And I want to be there
to see it, to ride it,
1657
02:00:48,699 --> 02:00:54,411
and maybe even to make it
and that's a real powerful idea
1658
02:00:54,497 --> 02:00:58,991
and something that... my hair just
stood on end thinking about it.
1659
02:00:59,627 --> 02:01:04,212
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