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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,840 Dear Jane, in the advertising leaflet which accompanies Tuva Bien to the 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,500 festivals of Venice, Carthage, New York and San Francisco, we preferred using a 3 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:20,360 photograph of you in Vietnam instead of photographs from the film. 4 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:26,940 We found this photograph in an issue of L'Express early in August 1972, and we 5 00:00:26,940 --> 00:00:30,540 think it will enable us to talk in a more concrete way about the problems 6 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:31,780 raised by Tuva Bien. 7 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:34,420 This is not a way of changing the subject. 8 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,960 nor is it a way of not talking about to Vabien, as if we were afraid of talking 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,260 about the film, not by any means. 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,300 It is a way of not marking time, like the perpetuous troops at Quang Tri, 11 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:51,540 which eventually leads to stepping on others, as with the shells of the 7th 12 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:52,540 Fleet on Quang Tri. 13 00:00:53,380 --> 00:00:58,440 Actually, this is a way of making a detour, but if we dare say so, a direct 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,740 detour. In other words, a detour... 15 00:01:02,010 --> 00:01:05,730 which will enable us to run directly into the treacherous little problems 16 00:01:05,730 --> 00:01:09,370 that the film we made together at the beginning of this year is concerned 17 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:13,850 with. And rather than talk right away about the qualities and faults of our 18 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:19,710 film, from one end to the other, we prefer to ask critics, journalists, and 19 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:23,970 spectators to kindly make the effort of analyzing this photograph of you in 20 00:01:23,970 --> 00:01:27,810 Vietnam, which was taken a few months after the film we did in Paris. 21 00:01:28,270 --> 00:01:32,290 As a matter of fact, this photograph and the short text that appeared with it 22 00:01:32,290 --> 00:01:35,450 does a better job of summing up to Fabien than we could. 23 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:37,850 And for a very simple reason. 24 00:01:38,070 --> 00:01:42,550 This photograph answers the same question that the film is asking. 25 00:01:42,790 --> 00:01:45,890 What part should intellectuals play in the revolution? 26 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:50,590 To this question, the photograph gives a practical answer. 27 00:01:50,830 --> 00:01:53,590 The answer it gives is its practice. 28 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:58,960 This photograph shows you, yes, you, Jane, serving the Vietnamese people's 29 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,980 struggle for independence. 30 00:02:00,460 --> 00:02:04,780 To Fabien provides an answer to this question, too, but not in the same way. 31 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:09,660 Because less certain than the photograph of the answers to be given, the film 32 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:11,380 asks other questions first. 33 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:15,860 And finally, these questions amount to not asking the questions of 34 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:18,680 intellectuals and the revolution in that way. 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,360 How can this question be raised, then? 36 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,320 The film does not answer yet exactly. 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,740 But the way in which it does not answer yet is actually an indirect way of 38 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:30,760 asking new questions. 39 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:35,500 Because there is no use in giving old answers to the new questions that are 40 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:39,020 being raised by the development of revolutionary struggles today. 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,420 One must learn how to ask these new questions. 42 00:02:42,740 --> 00:02:47,300 And learn from those who, even if they haven't had enough time to formulate 43 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:51,630 these questions clearly yet, have already taken possession of the ground 44 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:54,150 where they will be able to grow and flourish. 45 00:02:54,590 --> 00:02:59,290 And they have accomplished this by inventing new forms of practical action. 46 00:02:59,770 --> 00:03:04,270 We're telling you that our way of not really giving an answer yet, like the 47 00:03:04,270 --> 00:03:08,990 Vietnamese and you in the photograph, was actually an indirect way of asking 48 00:03:08,990 --> 00:03:12,730 new questions. An indirect way. A deviated way. 49 00:03:13,010 --> 00:03:17,890 Now you can understand why we had to make a detour before talking about the 50 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:20,930 film. And why it had to be a detour through Vietnam. 51 00:03:21,470 --> 00:03:25,930 First of all, because everyone agrees about the fact that some really new 52 00:03:25,930 --> 00:03:27,810 questions are being raised over there. 53 00:03:28,030 --> 00:03:32,570 And secondly, because you were with them after having been with us. 54 00:03:32,770 --> 00:03:36,970 As we were looking at this photograph of an actress on the theater of military 55 00:03:36,970 --> 00:03:42,070 operations, that's what made us want to ask some questions. Not to the actress, 56 00:03:42,270 --> 00:03:43,270 but to the photograph. 57 00:03:43,510 --> 00:03:48,310 And for us... This means asking a certain number of new questions about 58 00:03:48,310 --> 00:03:52,510 the classical answer that the Vietnamese and you have given to the well-known 59 00:03:52,510 --> 00:03:55,690 question of the intellectuals by publishing this photograph. 60 00:03:56,250 --> 00:04:00,570 There is something else that has influenced our decision to take 61 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:04,290 advantage of this photograph in order to make a detour through Vietnam. 62 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:10,530 This something is our desire to have a real discussion about the film with the 63 00:04:10,530 --> 00:04:12,970 spectators, journalists or not. 64 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,800 Everyone is his own journalist or editor, depending on how he changes his 65 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,400 own concrete day-to-day activity into a film, making himself the star of this 66 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:30,860 film. And it is precisely this kind of little star system that we want to talk 67 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:33,960 about, to talk about with the audience. 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,320 But in order to do so, we must make a detour, because just as a film is a kind 69 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,880 of detour, that leads us back to ourselves. 70 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,980 In order to get back to the film, we must first make this detour into 71 00:04:47,980 --> 00:04:48,980 ourselves. 72 00:04:49,220 --> 00:04:54,660 And here, in the USA today, ourselves still and always means Vietnam. 73 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:56,980 We'll try to explain a little further. 74 00:04:57,700 --> 00:05:02,320 We think that it's important and urgent to really speak to those who have taken 75 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,120 the trouble to come and see our film. 76 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:08,940 Really means right where they are, and also right where we are. 77 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,920 And so we must find a way to enable them to really ask questions if they feel 78 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,140 like it, or give answers to the questions we have asked. 79 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:22,840 The spectator must be able to really think, and think, first of all, about 80 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,880 this problem of questions and answers. 81 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:30,400 We must be able to be really upset by the spectator's questions or answers, 82 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,760 and to answer or ask questions, other than with ready-made answers or 83 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,720 questions to ready-made questions or answers. 84 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:42,680 But were they made by whom? For whom? Against whom? 85 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:47,880 This means that in order to have a real possibility of discussing 2 Verbier, 86 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,540 we're going to place ourselves outside of 2 Verbier. To talk about the machine, 87 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,240 we're going outside of the factory that uses it. We're going to find our basis 88 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,340 for discussion outside of the world of cinema in order to have a better view of 89 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:03,480 it when we return. 90 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:08,300 in order to set out in a better way toward the real problems of our real 91 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:13,040 concrete life, of which the cinema will have been only one of the elements. 92 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,280 We're not going to leave or abandon Thu Viet Bia. We're going to go away from 93 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:23,140 it, on the contrary, to go somewhere else, to Vietnam, for example, since you 94 00:06:23,140 --> 00:06:27,380 have come back from there. But what is important is that we're going to travel 95 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:29,180 there by our own means. 96 00:06:29,580 --> 00:06:31,620 What sort of means are we talking about? 97 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,740 The technical means we work with and the way we use them socially. 98 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,620 You in the photograph from Vietnam and we in the film in Paris. 99 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:43,340 And we will be in a better position to evaluate this use. 100 00:06:43,580 --> 00:06:45,940 And for once, we will not be alone. 101 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:48,300 The spectator will be there too. 102 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:52,400 He will be a producer at the same time he is a consumer. 103 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,480 And we will be consumers at the same time we are producers. 104 00:06:57,300 --> 00:07:00,040 Perhaps all this seems complicated to you. 105 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:06,220 As Vertov said to Lenin, the fact is that truth is simple, but that it's not 106 00:07:06,220 --> 00:07:07,400 simple to tell the truth. 107 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:12,360 And Uncle Bertolt had come up with five difficulties for telling the truth back 108 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,299 in his time. 109 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,300 Okay, we will explain that another way. 110 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:19,640 Today one often hears people say that cinema should serve the people. 111 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:24,380 Fine. Rather than talk theoretically about the faults and the virtues of Tuva 112 00:07:24,380 --> 00:07:26,100 Bien, we are going to Vietnam. 113 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,720 But we are going there by and with the means of Tuva Bien. 114 00:07:30,190 --> 00:07:34,730 We are going to see, if one may use the expression that way, how Thu Va Bien is 115 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:35,730 working in Vietnam. 116 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:41,170 And then, from this practical example, we eventually will be able to draw a few 117 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:46,110 conclusions about what to do and what not to do, each of us right where he is, 118 00:07:46,210 --> 00:07:50,850 with his wife, his boss, his children, his money, his desires, etc. 119 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:56,370 We are going to use this photograph then to go and seek an answer to the 120 00:07:56,370 --> 00:07:57,770 following question in Vietnam. 121 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,440 How can cinema help the Vietnamese people win their independence? 122 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,940 And as we have already said several times, we are not the only ones who have 123 00:08:07,940 --> 00:08:09,920 used this photograph to go to Vietnam. 124 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,700 Thousands of people have already done so. 125 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Probably almost everyone here has already seen this photograph. 126 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,620 And for a few seconds, each in his own way has used it to go to Vietnam. 127 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,720 That is precisely what we think is important to know. 128 00:08:27,210 --> 00:08:30,210 How each one has used this photograph to go to Vietnam. 129 00:08:30,450 --> 00:08:33,450 In actual fact, how he has gone to Vietnam. 130 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:37,210 Because Dr. Kissinger goes to Vietnam too, several times a year. 131 00:08:37,669 --> 00:08:39,950 And it's precisely someone like Dr. 132 00:08:40,190 --> 00:08:42,990 Kissinger who is going to ask us, why this photograph? 133 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:46,370 And what connection this photograph has with Thu Va Bien? 134 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:51,270 And he and his friends will tell us that we're mixing things up or just playing 135 00:08:51,270 --> 00:08:55,330 around, that we would be better off getting down to some serious talk about 136 00:08:55,330 --> 00:08:57,030 the film, about art, etc. 137 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:02,050 But one must make the effort to see how this kind of remark contradicts itself 138 00:09:02,050 --> 00:09:07,410 when it is made that way, thus confusing the whole issue and blocking access to 139 00:09:07,410 --> 00:09:12,090 other questions of a more simple nature, simple as might be asked by ordinary 140 00:09:12,090 --> 00:09:17,630 folks. For instance, before saying what connection, one must first ask, is there 141 00:09:17,630 --> 00:09:18,549 any connection? 142 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:23,910 And if so, then one may ask which one. And then, having discovered which 143 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:27,790 connection, we will discover a little further on that the connection between 144 00:09:27,790 --> 00:09:31,330 our film and this photograph is in the problem of expression. 145 00:09:31,630 --> 00:09:37,470 We will eventually be able to judge how important it is, which means making 146 00:09:37,470 --> 00:09:41,710 other connections with other important questions and other important answers. 147 00:09:42,330 --> 00:09:46,630 People will say that all this seems like empty words, but already at the other 148 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:50,630 end of this new little assembly line of questions, the questions of what is 149 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:54,730 important, that which are called the questions of practical results, is 150 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:57,370 beginning to look like an extremely important question. 151 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:02,650 And this is because the North Vietnamese Vietcong Collective has already answered 152 00:10:02,650 --> 00:10:07,350 the question of whether or not this photograph is important by succeeding in 153 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:11,210 having it published in just about every corner of the free world. 154 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:14,430 the same free world that is holding them in chains. 155 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:19,390 And it has shown what importance it gave to this photograph, the importance it 156 00:10:19,390 --> 00:10:24,230 gave to the questions of practical results, the importance that it gave to 157 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:25,770 the question of what is important. 158 00:10:26,550 --> 00:10:30,590 This photograph is therefore a practical answer that the North Vietnamese have 159 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:34,810 decided to give with your help, Jane, to the well-known question we asked 160 00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:38,930 earlier, what part should cinema play in the development of revolutionary 161 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:39,930 struggles? 162 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Or, in other words, how should intellectuals take part in the 163 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,280 revolution? 164 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:50,200 The photograph gives a practical answer to this question, the answer for whole 165 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,400 people. The photograph has been taken and published, and it has been taken in 166 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,560 a certain way, to make sure that it would be published, both on the right 167 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:04,360 and on the left. And this is what has happened, obviously, otherwise we would 168 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,420 not have obtained it. 169 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,860 Tu vas bien answers this question too. 170 00:11:08,190 --> 00:11:12,610 but from somewhere else, and in another way. A way, in fact, of not being too 171 00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:14,190 quick to give this kind of answer. 172 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:21,170 A way that is a means of saying, here in France, where we are, in 1972, ruled by 173 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:25,010 the friends of the Americans and the Russians, everything is not so clear. 174 00:11:25,270 --> 00:11:26,810 Everything is not so obvious. 175 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:32,910 Fidel Castro said at the UN that for revolutionaries, there are never any 176 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:33,910 obvious truths. 177 00:11:33,970 --> 00:11:36,430 That they are an invention of imperialism. 178 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,960 and that those who are big use obvious truth cleverly to oppress those who are 179 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,900 small. And since everything is not obvious, Jane, let us continue asking 180 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:48,120 ourselves questions. 181 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:51,520 But let us make an effort to ask them differently. 182 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:56,760 In other words, let us ask new questions in order to be able to give new answers. 183 00:11:57,260 --> 00:12:01,760 For example, let us observe how the Vietnamese express their struggle. 184 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:06,690 Let us ask ourselves some questions, since we wish to express our struggle 185 00:12:06,690 --> 00:12:12,950 too. And first, let us ask ourselves honestly what makes us able to say that 186 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:14,450 we are really struggling. 187 00:12:15,150 --> 00:12:19,830 But at this point, perhaps you, Jane, will ask us. Why this photograph of me 188 00:12:19,830 --> 00:12:24,170 and not one of Ramsey Clark, for example? He was in Vietnam too, and he 189 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:26,610 also witnessed the bombing of the dykes. 190 00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:31,440 Simply, Jane, because of Tout va bien and because your social rank in the film 191 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,300 was the same as in this photograph. 192 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,800 You're an actress. 193 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,440 We're all actors in this stage of history, yes. 194 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,940 But what's more, you work in films and so do we. 195 00:12:43,780 --> 00:12:46,460 Then why not Yves Montand in Chile, you could say? 196 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 He was also in the movie, true. 197 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:50,720 But it so happens... 198 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,880 that the Chilean revolutionaries, the mere, did not judge that it would be a 199 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,220 good thing to publish photographs of Eve. 200 00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:03,020 Whereas the Vietnamese revolutionary did judge, with your agreement, that it 201 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:06,960 would be a good thing to publish photographs of you. In fact, to publish 202 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,160 photographs of your agreement with the Vietnamese travel. 203 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,660 There is another problem, too, and one that we can't avoid. 204 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,140 We are both men who have made Tuva Bien, and you are a woman. 205 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:22,290 In Vietnam, the question is not put that way, but here it is. 206 00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:27,690 And as a woman, you undoubtedly will be hurt a little or a lot by the fact that 207 00:13:27,690 --> 00:13:31,810 we are going to criticize a little or a lot your way of acting in these 208 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:36,590 photographs. Hurt because once again, as usual, men are finding ways to attack 209 00:13:36,590 --> 00:13:41,830 women. If for no other reason, we hope that you will be able to come and answer 210 00:13:41,830 --> 00:13:47,170 our letter by talking with us as we go reading it in two or three places in the 211 00:13:47,170 --> 00:13:48,169 U.S. 212 00:13:48,170 --> 00:13:52,650 In the U.S. and in Europe, it's true that things are still or have already 213 00:13:52,650 --> 00:13:53,830 become that way. 214 00:13:54,170 --> 00:13:58,670 And we are as you, submerged in some pretty troubled water, through which 215 00:13:58,670 --> 00:14:00,990 this photograph can help us to see clearly. 216 00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:06,130 This is where we have to start from. From you in the U.S., from us in Paris, 217 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:11,290 from you and us in Paris, from you in Vietnam, from us in Paris, looking at 218 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:12,290 you in Vietnam. 219 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,180 from us going to the U.S., and from everyone here in the theater listening 220 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:18,820 to us and looking at you. 221 00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:21,080 We are starting from all this. 222 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,340 It is organized in a certain way and functions in a certain way. 223 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:29,740 We want to discuss it all, starting from there. 224 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,460 To start from Thu Va Bien, to go to Vietnam, to come back to Thu Va Bien, in 225 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:38,440 other words, to come back to Vietnam in the theater where Thu Va Bien is being 226 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,900 shown, and afterward to go back home. 227 00:14:41,290 --> 00:14:43,110 and tomorrow to go back to the factory. 228 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:48,130 In order to discuss all that, we are slipping this photograph under people's 229 00:14:48,130 --> 00:14:52,770 noses for a second look, since the Vietnamese and you already slipped it 230 00:14:52,770 --> 00:14:53,770 there once. 231 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:59,210 In other words, we ask, and we are asking ourselves, did we really look at 232 00:14:59,210 --> 00:15:00,049 this photograph? 233 00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:04,610 What did we see in it? And beneath its question, we discover another question. 234 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:07,070 For example, how did we look at this photograph? 235 00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:10,370 How did our eyes function in regard to this photograph? 236 00:15:11,020 --> 00:15:14,420 And what makes them glance that way instead of another? 237 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,700 And still another question, what makes our voice interpret this glance in a 238 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:21,140 certain way instead of another? 239 00:15:21,620 --> 00:15:24,100 To Vabien asks all of these questions. 240 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:30,080 These questions can all be summed up in the big question of the role of the 241 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,620 intellectuals in the revolutionary struggles. 242 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:38,700 Or rather, this big well-known question about intellectuals. One begins to see 243 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:44,020 that... By expressing itself in that way, it becomes paralyzing, and that it 244 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:49,680 paralyzes others. And finally, that it is no longer a question belonging to the 245 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,920 revolution. Today's questions about the revolution, as we will discover in 246 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,880 relation to the photograph, then in relation to the film, should be, how to 247 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,100 change the old world? 248 00:16:02,860 --> 00:16:07,980 And one can see right away that the old world of a Viet Cong is not the same as 249 00:16:07,980 --> 00:16:09,780 the old world of a Western intellectual. 250 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:14,560 That the old world of a Palestinian is not the same as that of a black child 251 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,560 from Harlem. 252 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,200 That the old world of a worker from the Renault factory is not the same as that 253 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,200 of his girlfriend. 254 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:27,080 One can see that this photograph gives a practical answer to the question of 255 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,260 changing the old world. 256 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:32,080 And therefore, we're going to examine this photographic answer. 257 00:16:32,540 --> 00:16:33,940 We're going to make an investigation. 258 00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:36,520 We're going to look for some clues. 259 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:39,240 We're going to analyze and put them together. 260 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:45,020 We will try to explain the organization of these elements that make up this 261 00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:50,360 photograph. On the one hand, we will explain things as if we were dealing 262 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,180 with a photographic molecular structure. 263 00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:57,700 And on the other hand, as if we were dealing with a kind of social nerve 264 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:02,090 cell. Then, we will try to show the connection between the scientific 265 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:04,569 investigation and the more political one. 266 00:17:04,810 --> 00:17:09,890 Where do the right ideas come from? From the struggle for production, from the 267 00:17:09,890 --> 00:17:12,609 class struggle, and from scientific experimentation? 268 00:17:13,369 --> 00:17:18,089 In making this investigation, questioning this photograph, we're doing 269 00:17:18,089 --> 00:17:22,089 nothing other than trying to find out how the answer that this photograph 270 00:17:22,089 --> 00:17:25,550 gives was produced in the context of the struggle in Vietnam. 271 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,420 Then we will see if the answer is entirely satisfactory for everyone, for 272 00:17:30,420 --> 00:17:36,380 whom, against whom, and if perhaps other questions won't start cropping up, just 273 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:40,600 those that Tout va bien somehow or other manages to raise. 274 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:46,900 For example, as far as an important part of the photograph is concerned, the 275 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:52,020 actress's expression, the relation between the eyes and the mouth, in 276 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:57,720 Western Europe, in our opinion, one cannot be satisfied with it for the same 277 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,060 reasons as its authors those who took the photograph or decided that it should 278 00:18:02,060 --> 00:18:06,980 be taken the north vietnam vietnam collective and this at first seems 279 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:12,440 absolutely normal the context being different but then one ought to inquire 280 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,340 as thoroughly as they do into what has conditioned this idea of what is normal 281 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:22,580 in saying this we are not doing as most of the communist party and their allies 282 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:27,990 in the western world the Pope, the UN, the Red Cross, who say simply, let us 283 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:29,370 help Vietnam toward peace. 284 00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:34,370 Saying what we have said, on the contrary, is saying something much more 285 00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:39,410 precise. For example, let us help the North Vietnamese-South Vietnam alliance 286 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:41,710 make its own peace. 287 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:45,130 And even more precise, since Vietnam... 288 00:18:45,370 --> 00:18:50,970 in changing its whole world, helps us change our own, how can we really help 289 00:18:50,970 --> 00:18:51,970 Vietnam in return? 290 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:56,810 And since the Viet Cong North Vietnam Collective is struggling, criticizing 291 00:18:56,810 --> 00:19:02,590 and transforming Southeast Asia, how can we struggle in our context for changing 292 00:19:02,590 --> 00:19:03,590 Europe and America? 293 00:19:04,030 --> 00:19:07,930 Of course, all this takes a little longer to say than just peace in 294 00:19:07,930 --> 00:19:12,750 Vietnam. And it necessitates doing things more thoroughly than just 295 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:14,430 creating two or three Vietnams. 296 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,260 And that's why Marx, in the preface to the first edition of Capital, was asking 297 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:25,160 for readers who were not afraid of minute details, in order to overthrow 298 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,180 the king of hell and free all the smaller devils. 299 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Faced with this photograph a few months ago by Eugene and the Vietnamese, and 300 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,560 now by us again, each person can, if he is willing, make his own investigation. 301 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:43,520 Then we will be free to compare the results, and we will be able to speak. 302 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,700 without taking the desire to speak away from those who are listening. 303 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,420 Perhaps we will be able, just for a moment, to say a little less nonsense 304 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:54,180 about ourselves and the revolution. 305 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,840 And one more thing, so that you won't feel attacked personally, although we 306 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,780 can't really avoid it. We feel the question is badly put, but we hope that 307 00:20:04,780 --> 00:20:07,800 by the end of this letter things will be a little clearer. 308 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,040 And that's why we really need you to come and answer us directly. 309 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,880 Because we're writing to you not only as authors of Tuvebia, but also because we 310 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,080 have been looking at this photograph. 311 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,020 And you must admit, it is the first time anyone who has seen a photograph of you 312 00:20:24,020 --> 00:20:26,800 in a magazine writes to you about it this way. 313 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,340 So that you won't feel like our chosen victim, as they say. And so that you'll 314 00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:36,300 understand that we're not aiming at Jane, but at a function of Jane. 315 00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:40,710 When questioning this photograph, we will refer to you in the third person. 316 00:20:40,910 --> 00:20:45,250 We won't say Jane has done such and such. We'll say the actress or the 317 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:49,190 militant, just by the way as in the text which accompanies the photograph. 318 00:20:49,550 --> 00:20:55,670 In our opinion, these are the principal elements or elements of elements 319 00:20:55,670 --> 00:21:00,550 that play an important part in this photograph which appeared in the French 320 00:21:00,550 --> 00:21:03,850 magazine L'Express at the beginning of August 72. 321 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,180 Elementary elements. 322 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:10,700 This photograph was taken at the request of the North Vietnamese government, 323 00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:15,200 representing on this occasion the revolutionary alliance between the 324 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,160 people of South Vietnam and the people of North Vietnam. 325 00:21:18,580 --> 00:21:23,620 This photograph was taken by Joseph Kraft, who is described beneath the 326 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:27,940 photograph in a text which was not written by those who were responsible 327 00:21:27,940 --> 00:21:33,110 for taking the photograph, but by those who have published it. In other words, a 328 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:37,770 text composed by several writers from L'Express who had not made any contact 329 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:40,190 with the North Vietnamese delegation in France. 330 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:41,470 We checked that. 331 00:21:41,730 --> 00:21:45,850 The text describes him as one of the most well-known and most moderate 332 00:21:45,850 --> 00:21:47,070 American journalists. 333 00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:51,990 It also says that the actress is a devoted militant for peace in Vietnam. 334 00:21:52,590 --> 00:21:56,370 But the text doesn't mention the Vietnamese people in the photograph. 335 00:21:56,690 --> 00:22:01,670 For example, the text does not tell us that the Vietnamese who cannot be seen 336 00:22:01,670 --> 00:22:05,820 in the background is one of the least known and least moderate of the 337 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:06,820 Vietnamese people. 338 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:10,880 This photograph, like any photograph, is physically mute. 339 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:14,600 It talks through the mouth of the text written beneath it. 340 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,280 This text does not emphasize, does not repeat, because the photograph speaks 341 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,440 and says things in its own way. The fact that the militant is in the foreground 342 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,960 and Vietnam is in the background. 343 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:33,030 The text says that Jane Fonda is questioning the people of Hanoi. 344 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:37,730 But the magazine does not publish the questions asked, nor the answers given 345 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:41,250 by the representatives of the Vietnamese people in these photographs. 346 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:46,590 In fact, the text should not describe the photograph as Jane Fonda 347 00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:49,550 questioning, but as Jane Fonda listening. 348 00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:56,670 This much is obvious, and perhaps the moment only lasted 1 250th of a second, 349 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:59,630 but that is the 250th. 350 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,600 that has been recorded and sent throughout the Western world. 351 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,660 Being written this way, the text is probably trying to tell us that the 352 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:13,540 photograph was taken at random during a discussion where the actress militant 353 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:18,180 was actually questioning the people of Hanoi, and therefore we shouldn't pay 354 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:21,420 any attention to the detail of her mouth being closed. 355 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:26,660 But we will see a little further on that it is not a question of chance, or 356 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:31,900 rather, even if it is chance, the chance is then exploited according to the 357 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:36,600 logical necessity of capitalism the necessity for capital to disguise what 358 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,760 is real at the same time it reveals it in other words the necessity of tricking 359 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,980 the customer about the product less elementary elements less elementary 360 00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:55,740 elements the camera took this photograph from a low angle actually in the history 361 00:23:55,740 --> 00:24:00,300 of cinema this low point of view cannot be considered an innocent one. 362 00:24:01,220 --> 00:24:06,140 This fact has been emphasized technically and socially by Orson Welles 363 00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:07,500 in his first pictures. 364 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:12,020 The choice of frame is not neutral or innocent either. 365 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,600 The frame is composed in relation to the actress who is looking rather than in 366 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,540 relation to what she is looking at. 367 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,360 She is presented in the frame as if she were the star and that in fact is 368 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,650 because the actress is an internationally known star. 369 00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:34,550 So on the one hand, the frame shows a star in a militant activity, and on the 370 00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:39,610 other, it focuses on the militant as a star, which is not the same thing. 371 00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:46,210 Or rather, which might be the same thing in Vietnam, but not in Europe or in the 372 00:24:46,210 --> 00:24:47,210 US. 373 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:52,450 The following page shows photographs of what the militant saw at other moments, 374 00:24:52,530 --> 00:24:55,010 but not what she was looking at in this photograph. 375 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,300 As far as we're concerned, these are the same type of pictures that now flew 376 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:05,480 automatically through the channels of TV and newspaper publications in the free 377 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,340 world. Pictures that we have seen hundreds of thousands of times, as many 378 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:11,680 as there have been bombs. 379 00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:16,060 And that don't change anything, except for those who are struggling to organize 380 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:21,540 this flow in a certain way, their way, the seven points of the GRP. 381 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:26,490 The truth is, if these photographs had been presented by some Miss Jones or 382 00:25:26,490 --> 00:25:31,170 Smith within the same newspapers, we'd have refused them as too ordinary. 383 00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:37,190 Ordinary, one must admit, just as it has become a very ordinary thing for an 384 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:41,550 agricultural community situated just outside of Hanoi to rebuild its 385 00:25:41,550 --> 00:25:46,570 schoolhouse for the 20th time, after the phantoms of Kissinger have destroyed it. 386 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:51,740 But of course, No one is going to talk about this extraordinary, ordinary fact. 387 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:55,980 Neither the militant being given star treatment, nor the express. 388 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,720 Neither will anything be said about what the American actress and her sisters, 389 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,060 the Vietnamese actresses that one can see in the photographs on the next page, 390 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,560 have said to each other. 391 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,780 Did the American actress ask about acting in Vietnam? 392 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:15,240 Or how someone who acts in Hollywood can act in Hanoi knowing he must return to 393 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,620 Hollywood? Express doesn't mention anything about all that, and we think 394 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:23,080 this is because the American actress doesn't talk about it either. 395 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,240 It's true that the militant talked about the anti-personal bombs and the dykes, 396 00:26:28,340 --> 00:26:33,740 but one must not forget that the militant is also an actress, whereas the 397 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:37,900 Russell Tribunal and Ramsey Clark, for example, are not. 398 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,980 We think that one must realize that because she's an actress, the officials 399 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:47,220 in the White House will have no difficulty if no one tries to stop them, 400 00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:52,280 saying that the actress has more or less unconsciously played into the enemy's 401 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,540 hand, and that she is just reciting a text that she has learned by heart. 402 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,400 Such criticism can easily destroy all the efforts of the actress and the 403 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,070 militant. and one must understand why she remains vulnerable to this kind of 404 00:27:09,070 --> 00:27:10,070 attack. 405 00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:15,570 We think in this case it is because the actress militant did not refer to the 406 00:27:15,570 --> 00:27:20,850 dykes by using an example such as that of a Vietnamese actress who works to 407 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:27,250 fill in the holes in the dykes and then acts in a theatrical representation in 408 00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:30,510 the village that is threatened by the breakings of the dykes. 409 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:37,390 In relation to this, We believe that if the militant considered herself, first 410 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:42,250 of all, as an actress, as the Vietnamese were making use of her due on their 411 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:48,070 level, she could begin to play her part historically, otherwise than in 412 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:53,090 Hollywood. Perhaps the Vietnamese do not have a direct need for this yet, but 413 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:58,310 Americans probably do, and therefore, indirectly, the Vietnamese do too. 414 00:27:58,550 --> 00:28:01,930 Once again, we find the necessity of making a detour. 415 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:05,420 The Vietnamese are obliged to make a detour through the USA. 416 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:11,200 In this photograph, in this reflection of reality, two people are seen facing 417 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,079 the camera. 418 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,980 The others, they are back turned. 419 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:18,440 Of the two people, one is in sharp focus and the other is not. 420 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,240 In this photograph, the famous American is sharp and clear and the anonymous 421 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,060 Vietnamese is blurry and unclear. 422 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:30,500 But in reality, it is the American left that is blurry and out of focus. 423 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:35,900 and the vietnamese left that is exceptionally sharp and clear in reality 424 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:41,140 it is also the american right that is always exceptionally sharp while the 425 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:46,860 vietnamese right the vietnamization is becoming less and less clear what should 426 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:51,240 we think then of the moderation of joseph craft who took a moderate view of 427 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,720 his contradiction set the lens opening and measured the focal distance 428 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,000 accordingly it was all carefully measured as we have seen in relation to 429 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,340 his choice of frame, and he intentionally set the focus on the star 430 00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:10,100 in militant activities in order to obtain a certain product, a certain 431 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:15,140 ideological merchandise, and once more with a deliberate aim in mind. 432 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:20,880 Let's not forget that the processing of this product is directly controlled by 433 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,580 North Vietnam, but its distribution outside of Vietnam is not, or rather it 434 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:30,960 is but in a very indirect way, not to mention the feedback. 435 00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:36,980 This distribution is controlled by the TV networks and newspapers of the free 436 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:41,720 world, and so we see that one of the moves necessary to complete this act of 437 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,260 communication cannot be made by those who have planned it. Which move? 438 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,840 Or is it a move in some kind of a game? And who has the right to play? 439 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 And who plays for whom, against whom? 440 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,020 At this point we find, and we will come back to it again later, that in 441 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:03,460 examining the relationship between what seems sharp and what does not, in 442 00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:07,560 relation to the two faces in the photograph, we have discovered something 443 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,560 quite unusual. 444 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:14,000 The face out of focus is sharp and clear, and the sharp and clear face is 445 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,340 vague and out of focus. 446 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,620 The Vietnamese can stand being viewed out of focus. 447 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,000 Because he has been in sharp focus for a long time in his everyday reality, the 448 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560 American is obliged to appear in sharp focus. 449 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Because the Vietnamese way of remaining clearly out of focus makes this 450 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,100 inevitable. The American is obliged to focus clearly on his real lack of 451 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,100 clarity. 452 00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:41,060 But nothing of that thought is said in the text. 453 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,010 The general effect of this photograph emphasize that of another photograph of 454 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:50,050 the actress on the cover of the same issue of Lexpress. 455 00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:55,890 This cover composition is very revealing if one is willing to see that a 456 00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:59,290 photograph can cover up just as much as it reveals. 457 00:30:59,510 --> 00:31:02,790 A photograph imposes silence as it speaks. 458 00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:08,500 In our opinion, This is one of the working principles of the two-faced form 459 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:14,100 Jekyll and Hyde, principle and interest, that information deformation takes on 460 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:20,120 when it is transmitted by images and sound in our epoch, which is that of the 461 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,880 decline of imperialism and of the general tendency toward revolution. 462 00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:30,140 The American left says that the tragedy is not in Vietnam, but in the U.S. 463 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:35,600 The facial expression of the militant in this photograph is, in fact, that of a 464 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,600 tragic actress. 465 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,620 But a tragic actress with a particular social and technical background, formed 466 00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:46,100 and deformed by the Hollywood school of Stanislavski and Shobis. 467 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,660 The militant's expression was the same in the third reel of Two Verbien when, 468 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:55,400 as an actress, she was listening to one of the film extras singing a text 469 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,860 written by Lothar Continu. 470 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,220 The actress also had this expression in Clout. 471 00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:05,430 As she looked at her friend, a policeman played by Donald Sutherland, with a 472 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:09,830 tragic sense of pity on her face, and made up her mind to spend the night with 473 00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:14,710 him. We can find this same expression already in the 1940s, used by Henry 474 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:21,650 Fonda to portray an exploited worker in the future fascist Steinbeck's Grapes of 475 00:32:21,650 --> 00:32:26,670 Wrath. And even further back in the actress's paternal history within the 476 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:27,670 history of cinema. 477 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,280 It was still the same expression that Henry Fonda used to cast a profound and 478 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000 tragic look on the black people in Young Mr. 479 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,940 Lincoln, made by the future Honorable Admiral of the Navy John Ford. One can 480 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:45,080 also find this expression on the opposite side as John Wayne expresses 481 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,720 his deep regrets about the devastation of the war in Vietnam in the Green 482 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,040 Beret. In our opinion, this expression has been borrowed, principle and 483 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,260 interest. from the free trade mask of roosevelt's new deal in fact it's an 484 00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:05,040 expression of an expression and it appeared inevitably by chance just as 485 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,480 the talkies were becoming a financial success this expression talks but only 486 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,000 to say how much it knows about stock market crush for example but it says 487 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,860 nothing more than how much it knows that's why in our opinion this 488 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:24,000 rooseveltian expression is technically different from those that have preceded 489 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,310 it in the history of cinema, the expression of silent screen stars, 490 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:31,490 Lillian Gish, Valentino, Falconetti, etc. 491 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:36,450 Just make the experiment and have these faces look at a photograph of U.S. 492 00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:37,450 crimes in Vietnam. 493 00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:42,530 Not one will have the same expression, although all of them have the same 494 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:43,530 knowing look. 495 00:34:09,419 --> 00:34:12,480 equals editing of IC. 496 00:34:13,340 --> 00:34:19,060 This is because before the talkies, silent films had a materially starting 497 00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:23,580 point. The actor said, I am filmed. 498 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:30,219 Therefore I think, at least I think of the fact that I am being filmed. 499 00:34:30,739 --> 00:34:33,460 It's because I exist that I think. 500 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,030 After the talkies, There was a new deal between the matter being filmed, the 501 00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:41,570 actor, and thought. 502 00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:48,969 The actor began saying, I think that I am an actor, therefore 503 00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:51,070 I am filmed. 504 00:34:51,429 --> 00:34:57,950 It is because I think that I am. I think, therefore I am. As we have just 505 00:34:57,950 --> 00:35:02,990 seen in this experiment, which elaborates Kuleshov's, before the new 506 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:04,110 deal expressed itself. 507 00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:10,590 Each star of the silent screen had his own individual expression, and the wide 508 00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:13,730 popularity of silent movies was a real fact. 509 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:20,570 On the contrary, as soon as films begin to talk like the New Deal, each actor 510 00:35:20,570 --> 00:35:22,570 begins to speak the same thing. 511 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:27,490 Just make the same experiment with any big star from the world of cinema, 512 00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:28,950 sports or politics. 513 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:36,260 I think therefore I am. I think therefore I am. I think therefore I am. 514 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,140 I think therefore I am. 515 00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:42,280 I think therefore I am. I think therefore I am. 516 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,880 This expression that says it knows a lot about things, this expression that says 517 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,700 it knows a lot about things, that says no more and no less, is an expression 518 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:59,380 that doesn't help one to see more clearly. 519 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,520 into one's personal problem, to see how Vietnam can shed some light on them, for 520 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:10,160 example. So why be satisfied with it and say, it's better than nothing, something 521 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,420 gets across a little, as in the Union speech in 2 Verbien, Reel 3, or in the 522 00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,580 CP speech in 2 Verbien, Reel 5? 523 00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:23,080 And why, even if the actress is not capable of acting differently yet, and 524 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,620 even if we are not yet as able to help her... 525 00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:29,270 to help her act differently as we would like to be. 526 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:34,790 Why should the Vietnamese be satisfied with it? In our opinion, we risk doing 527 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:40,550 them more harm than good by producing a good conscience for ourselves in such a 528 00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:41,550 cheap way. 529 00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:45,730 Scientifically speaking, the movement from life to information is cheap. 530 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:52,110 After all, this expression is also addressed to us, we who are making an 531 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:53,870 effort to look at it a second time. 532 00:36:54,490 --> 00:37:00,230 These eyes and these mouths are not saying anything to us, and for us, they 533 00:37:00,230 --> 00:37:04,510 are filling themselves with emptiness, like those of the Czechoslovakian 534 00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:08,790 children in front of the Russian tanks, or the swollen little bellies from 535 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:13,990 Biafra or Bangladesh, or the Palestinian feet carefully looked after in the mud 536 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:19,150 by the UN, full of emptiness, full of empty meanings, but watch out only for 537 00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:20,150 capitalism. 538 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:25,710 Because capitalism knows how to fuck things up and fill the real eyes of its 539 00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:30,710 future enemies with emptiness, forcing them to look nowhere. 540 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:36,010 How can one fight against this situation? 541 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:39,830 Not by banning the publication of this kind of photograph. 542 00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:44,770 One would have to stop all these TV and radio programs in practically every 543 00:37:44,770 --> 00:37:49,230 country in the world, as well as the publication of practically every form of 544 00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:50,230 newspaper. 545 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,640 which would be utopian. 546 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,260 No. But one could publish them differently. 547 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,860 And it is in relation to this difference, because of their financial 548 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:05,260 and cultural influence, that the stars can play an important role. A very heavy 549 00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:06,260 role, as they say. 550 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,020 And the real tragedy is that they don't know how to play this heavy role. 551 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,020 How can one learn to play it? 552 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,180 Many questions must still be asked in Europe. 553 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:20,600 and in the United States before one can answer clearly. 554 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:26,360 We are asking a few into that, as Marx did in his day by taking German ideology 555 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,120 and raising the question of the misery of philosophy against Proudhon, who only 556 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520 knew how to philosophize about misery. 557 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:40,020 If one looks carefully at the Vietnamese behind the actress, one realizes very 558 00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:45,200 quickly that his face is expressing something entirely different than that 559 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,420 of the American militant. 560 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,660 But even if one can't see what he's looking at, one can see that his face 561 00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:54,460 reflects what he must face every day. 562 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,120 Entire personal bombs, broken dykes, and the torn bodies of dead women. 563 00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:06,040 A house which must be rebuilt for the nth time, the hospital, and a lesson to 564 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,019 be learned. 565 00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:09,840 Lenin said, first lesson, learn. 566 00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,960 Second lesson, learn. Third lesson, learn. 567 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,920 And this face... 568 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,980 immediately reflects a day-to-day struggle for a very simple reason. 569 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,120 It's not just the face of a revolutionary, but of a Vietnamese 570 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,140 revolutionary. A long past of struggling has been written on this face by French, 571 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,280 Japanese, and American imperialism. In fact, this face has been recognized for 572 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,040 a long time now throughout the world as the face of revolution, even by his 573 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,700 enemies. Let's not be afraid of words. 574 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:47,160 This is a face that has already won the independence of its own code of 575 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,700 communication. Today, no other revolutionary face reflects as much 576 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:57,840 daily struggle as this, simply because no other revolution, except the Chinese, 577 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,420 has made as long a march as the Vietnamese revolution. 578 00:40:02,020 --> 00:40:03,420 Let's make the experiment. 579 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520 This black man, for example. 580 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,200 We cannot say right away why he is struggling, or where, and how. 581 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120 In Detroit, on the assembly line of the Chrysler Corporation, for better wages 582 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400 and a slightly slower work rate. 583 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,680 In Johannesburg, to have the right to enter a movie house where white people 584 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,360 are showing white people's film. 585 00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:26,660 And this worker. 586 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,680 And this European girl. 587 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,340 And this Arab. 588 00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:32,880 And this young radical. 589 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:38,220 As Uncle Bertolt said, one must have the courage to say that we have nothing to 590 00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:39,240 say about these faces. 591 00:40:39,850 --> 00:40:44,370 unless there is a caption with some sort of nonsense or lies that we can swallow. 592 00:40:44,690 --> 00:40:49,790 And one must have the courage to admit one's weakness and failure, for one has 593 00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:50,790 nothing to say. 594 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:55,710 This Vietnamese face, on the contrary, needs no words written underneath. 595 00:40:56,710 --> 00:41:01,090 Anywhere in the world, people will say, this man is Vietnamese, and the 596 00:41:01,090 --> 00:41:04,270 Vietnamese people are fighting to kick America out of Asia. 597 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:06,950 Let's look on the other hand. 598 00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:11,930 at the face of the american actress without the rest of the photograph what 599 00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:16,330 can see right away that it doesn't reflect anything or rather that it only 600 00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:22,030 reflects itself but a self that is nowhere lost in the infinite immensity 601 00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:27,810 and immortal tenderness of a pieta by michelangelo a woman's face that does 602 00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:32,430 not reflect other women a vietnamese face was a function reflecting reality 603 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:37,600 Whereas the American's face is a function that only reflects a function. 604 00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:42,900 A face that could also belong to a hippie needing a fix. To a student in 605 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:48,840 Eugene, Oregon, whose favorite runner, Pree Fontaine, just lost the Olympic 5 606 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,840 ,000 meters. 607 00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:53,500 To a young girl in love who has just been dropped by a boyfriend. 608 00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,040 And also to a militant in Vietnam. 609 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,520 It's too much. There is too much information in too small an element of 610 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,520 space and time. 611 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,560 At the same time, we are sure that the militant is thinking of Vietnam, and not 612 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,940 sure at all, because she might be thinking of something entirely 613 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:11,680 different, as we have suggested. 614 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,060 Therefore, we must eventually ask the question, why is this photograph of a 615 00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:21,640 militant actress, who is not necessarily thinking of Vietnam, being published, 616 00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:27,520 precisely in place of that of an actress militant, who is necessarily thinking of 617 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,520 Vietnam? 618 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:33,970 Because the true reality of this photograph... lies in just this, a star 619 00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:39,510 disguise unveiled by the absence of Max Factor. But L'Express doesn't say 620 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:44,290 anything about this, because that would be starting the revolution in 621 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:48,930 journalism. It would be the beginning of revolution to say in Europe and in the 622 00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:54,290 US that today it is not possible to take a photograph of someone thinking of 623 00:42:54,290 --> 00:43:00,190 something. Vietnam, fucking Ford Motors, factories, sand on the seashore, etc. 624 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,140 Perhaps people will say that we should not have isolated this part of the 625 00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:08,620 picture from the rest, since it was published as part of a whole. 626 00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:11,540 But we think this is a very bad argument. 627 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,680 We have isolated this part to show that it already stands alone in fact, and the 628 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,640 tragedy is in this solitude. 629 00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:24,680 If we have been able to separate this face from the rest of the picture, it is 630 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,340 because the face lends itself to this separation. 631 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,860 Whereas the Vietnamese face, on the contrary, remains a part of its 632 00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,800 surroundings, even if we try to look at it alone. 633 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,620 It has a definite reverse shot. 634 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,680 On the contrary, here, there is no reverse shot possible. 635 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,900 No reverse shot. 636 00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:51,600 In France, we are very familiar with the expression used by the actress in this 637 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,240 picture. It's a working model of Cartesian thought process. 638 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,500 I think, therefore I am, the same that inspired the statue of the thinker by 639 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:06,400 Rodin. Why not carry this statue around wherever there is a catastrophe in the 640 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,420 world, to inspire the crowds with a feeling of pity? 641 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,160 The swindle of capitalist art and humanism would be exposed immediately. 642 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,060 One must realize that stars are not allowed to think. 643 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,460 They are only social functions. 644 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,420 They are thought, and they make you think. 645 00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:30,000 One just as to look at the acting of big thinkers like Marlo Brando or any other 646 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,000 motherfuckers to understand why capital needs this sort of art to reinforce the 647 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760 strength of idealistic philosophy in its fight. 648 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:45,040 Against the materialist philosophy of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao who 649 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,220 represent their peoples. 650 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:50,340 We've said that we are able to isolate on the contrary. 651 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,360 The face of the American actress. 652 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:56,240 Now we are going to isolate the expression on the contrary in this 653 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,000 sentence. Isolate, separate. 654 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,740 Lenin said that a revolutionary kind of separation is needed to fight against 655 00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:07,060 the way capitalism separates workers into isolated categories. 656 00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:11,960 The face of the American militant and that of the North Vietnamese are 657 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,320 opposites. The struggle of opposites is precisely what is happening in the 658 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,360 imaginary reality of this image. 659 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,760 The American eye in Vietnam is satisfied with just reading the word horror. 660 00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:29,580 The Vietnamese eye sees the reality of America in all its horror. 661 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,220 In this scene, the Vietnamese just appears in the background like a film 662 00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:38,940 extra. But behind him, we can already feel the force of the astonishing, 663 00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:43,160 incredible machine built by the North Vietnam Vietcong Collective. 664 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,800 And standing behind the star, we can still sense the vile, deadly capitalist 665 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,140 machine. looking full of cynical humility and limpid confusion, as 666 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:57,780 Lelouch said in Adventure is Adventure. 667 00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:03,820 In all of this we find a struggle between what still is and what already 668 00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:06,120 is, a fight between the old and the new. 669 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,180 A struggle which does not limit itself to the taking of this picture, but is 670 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:17,400 perpetuated by the way it has been published and by the fact that people in 671 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,470 this theater are looking at it at this very moment, a struggle between the 672 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:27,290 process of making a product and the process of its distribution, depending 673 00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:31,070 on who controlled the process, capital, or revolution. 674 00:46:31,870 --> 00:46:33,710 Other elements of elements. 675 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:39,910 The North Vietnamese are right in taking the risk of publishing this picture. Or 676 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:42,490 rather, they have their reasons for doing so. 677 00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:47,330 This picture plays the part of a small screw in the mechanism that has been 678 00:46:47,330 --> 00:46:50,510 conceived for developing their current military diplomatic offensive. 679 00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:56,830 This picture is one of the thousands that the Vietnamese have given with 680 00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:59,370 their blood in answer to U.S. war crimes. 681 00:47:00,370 --> 00:47:04,870 You may have noticed, by the way, Jane, that the Viet Cong North Vietnam 682 00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:10,050 Collective often publishes documents of their struggles, but seldom of 683 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:14,850 atrocities. In this case, the North Vietnamese government has answered on 684 00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:19,290 behalf of its people and specifically representing the Committee for 685 00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:23,770 Friendship with the American People by calling on the services of Jen Fonda, 686 00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:26,750 which means asking her to play a certain part. 687 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:31,990 Unlike what many Americans would have done, the American actress accepted to 688 00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:36,810 go to Vietnam and play this part. She went to Hanoi to help the Vietnamese 689 00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:37,810 revolution. 690 00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:44,720 Now one must ask the question, How does she help? Or more precisely, how does 691 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:45,720 she play this part? 692 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:50,480 The American actress at work in this picture is helping the Vietnamese people 693 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,920 in their struggle for independence. 694 00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:57,560 But she's not only helping in Vietnam, but particularly in the US and in 695 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,520 Europe, too, since the picture has come to us in France as well. 696 00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:08,200 As we look at the picture here, then, we are freely obliged to ask, does this 697 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,200 picture help us? 698 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,240 And above all, does it help us to help Vietnam? 699 00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:15,680 Vietnam forces us to ask this question. 700 00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:20,260 Putting together some elements, or some elements of elements. 701 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:25,560 Neither Lexpress nor the American militant have made the distinction 702 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,220 between Jane Fonda speaking, asking questions, and Jane Fonda listening. 703 00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:35,560 For the Vietnamese, in the present historical stage of their struggle, the 704 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,810 most important fact about this picture is... that Jane Fonda is in it. 705 00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:45,410 And in our opinion, it doesn't matter much for them whether she is speaking or 706 00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:48,430 listening, because the silence is just as effective. 707 00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:51,490 The important thing is that she is there. 708 00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:57,490 But here in 1972, the most important thing is not necessarily the same. 709 00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:00,870 We must learn what determines this necessarily. 710 00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:05,790 We couldn't help observing that the text beneath the picture was lying. 711 00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:09,830 when it said that the actress was speaking to the inhabitants of Hanoi, 712 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:13,930 since the picture plainly showed that the militant was listening. 713 00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:18,990 And since we need the contradictory truth of this picture, and not its 714 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:24,150 eternal truth, it is also important for us to make the observation that L 715 00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:25,870 'Express is lying on every level. 716 00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:31,030 But we must also add that if the magazine is able to lie, it is because 717 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:32,530 the picture makes it possible. 718 00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:35,310 Actually, L'Express takes advantage of. 719 00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:40,490 profits by the implicit authorization of the picture to hide the fact that the 720 00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:41,510 militant is listening. 721 00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:45,790 By saying that she is speaking and speaking about peace in Vietnam, 722 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:50,870 Lexpress is able to avoid saying what peace, leaving this up to the picture 723 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:54,710 alone, as if the picture said precisely what sort of peace was involved. 724 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:58,190 We have proved, however, that this is not the case. 725 00:49:58,470 --> 00:50:03,250 But if Lexpress can do this, it is probably because the American actress 726 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:07,710 does not express her struggle as a militant by saying anything other than 727 00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:13,170 peace in Vietnam, and because she does not ask herself exactly what peace, and 728 00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:15,450 particularly what peace in America. 729 00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:21,030 And if she doesn't ask herself this yet, or is not able to, it is not because she 730 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:24,870 still acts as an actress, as not as a militant, but on the contrary. 731 00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:29,910 Because as a militant, she doesn't ask herself questions yet about what new 732 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:34,450 approach or style might be applied to her function as an actress, both 733 00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:35,650 technically and socially. 734 00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:41,250 In other words, she doesn't consider a militant activity as an actress, even 735 00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:45,370 though the North Vietnamese invited her precisely as a militant actress. 736 00:50:46,090 --> 00:50:52,210 And she's talking from somewhere other than where she really is, in America. 737 00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:57,810 which is what interests the Vietnamese most of all. This is why she also covers 738 00:50:57,810 --> 00:51:02,310 up the fact that the most important fact about this picture is listening, 739 00:51:02,430 --> 00:51:05,090 listening to Vietnam before talking about it. 740 00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,170 Whereas at the same time, Nixon, Kissinger, and the big barrel of Stale 741 00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:14,470 Porter are not listening to anything or refusing to listen to anything of the 742 00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:15,470 Paris talks. 743 00:51:15,490 --> 00:51:18,670 We must be able to examine this masquerade. 744 00:51:19,550 --> 00:51:24,690 An unmasking Nixon hypocrisy does not mean saying, peace in Vietnam. 745 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:27,990 Because he says it too, and so does Brezhnev. 746 00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:30,870 One must say the opposite of what he says. 747 00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:35,390 One must say, I'm listening to the Vietnamese, who are going to tell me 748 00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:37,490 what sort of peace they want in their country. 749 00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:42,650 And one must say, as an American, I'll keep my mouth shut, because I admit I 750 00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:47,570 have got nothing to say about this. The Vietnamese must say what they want, and 751 00:51:47,570 --> 00:51:48,570 I have to listen. 752 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,680 and then do whatever they say because they are not a part of Southeast Asia. 753 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,020 The rest is just masquerade. 71952

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