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This is your last visit to Washington as
Sector General, Michael.
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So I don't know how many times I will go
to the United States.
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But what I do know is that my term ends
in October and I know the plans and to be
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focused on on my tasks as Sector general
and to my term ends.
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Are you sure it's the one?
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I have no other plans and I'm I'm
absolutely confident that NATO allies
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will be able to find a very good
succession.
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It doesn't seem like they are because
there is no one who would you recommend?
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It's not for me to be part of that
discussion.
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That's what allies to decide my
responsibility is to be in charge to lead
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the the alliance until I my tenure ends.
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President Biden asked to stay.
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Will you?
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This is a hypothetical issue I have, yes.
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But I mean,
I won't speculate about what he's going
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to say.
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And I'll say I'm absolutely confident
that this alliance will find a good
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succession.
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So can you definitively rule out that you
will not continue under any circumstances
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in this post after the end of September?
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As I said many, many, many times,
my tenure ends and I know the all the
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plans.
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So you believe yes or no?
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When my 10 ends, I will leave.
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Have you taken part in have you taken
part in any in any discussions about your
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successor?
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I will not go into all the no,
it's not for me to involve myself.
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No, it's not for me to discuss.
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Why do you think about implied?
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I like the Canadian guy much better,
but I think I think even though this was
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quite aggressive,
you were a little bit too defensive floor
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L.
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Well, in the sector general,
it's great to have you here.
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It's good to see you again.
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Don't make sense.
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We do so well the contours or the best
the customer is malted or those are not
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within a line Also that one it was hot
once out of the wiki Garupa of the victor
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you know selection Bolton alliance and
summon or how mental they motor for
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chatter.
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They have a commune plan or they was
large to present.
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Yeah, I I I have that and that.
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Hello been cool.
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No comment or also this is not about you.
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But this is not about you,
but this is about the Alliance president
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or as other young home.
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I mean pretty well the photo of the R.E.M.
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And the cool Nomi the the the the ash to
meet live.
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Oh,
they heard it's probably smoked it in
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about the American, you know, Green said.
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That's this 4 pointed star is the emblem
of NATO.
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The organization brought into being by
the North Atlantic Treaty signed in
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Washington in 1949,
its first task to prevent further Soviet
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expansion in Europe.
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The huge advances of the Red Armies had
placed vast areas of Eastern Europe under
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Soviet control.
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Independent sovereign nations joined
together in a defensive alliance.
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An attack against one would be regarded
as an attack against all.
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Each member nation with a large or small
has an equal voice.
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Decisions are taken by common concern
here.
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The NATO Council is presided over by the
Secretary General.
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His function is to help along the process
of decision making and to carry out the
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decisions once they're made.
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And on that security,
they well hand the piece of the entire
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globe.
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And I absolutely hadn't decided what to
wear at the White House.
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The Russians were in Russian continues to
cause untold human suffering with heinous
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attacks,
heinous attacks on homes and hospitals,
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brutal attacks, brutal attacks.
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The Ukrainian people will prevail.
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Is that softer than Ukraine will prevail?
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Yes, the Ukrainian people could.
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It sounds like they can prevail inside
Russia in a way.
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So so I think at least we should say
Ukraine will prevail.
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Ukraine I'm I'm your determination to
fight the aggressor,
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to liberate your lands and work for a
brighter future says it all.
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I I prefer says very clearly to me,
because also that's a way of it's a bit
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of a safety route as well.
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It's your opinion, right?
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It says very clear to me.
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So your determination to fight the
aggressor,
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liberate your land and work for a
brighter future says very clearly to me,
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Ukraine will prevail.
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Slavi, Ukrainian,
A different NATO stands with you today,
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tomorrow and for as long as it takes.
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Wow.
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There was, there was an error last night.
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We went to actually people have Kiev,
they went into shelters,
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but there's been nothing since.
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None.
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Morning.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks for coming.
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We need you.
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Mr.
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President,
I'm here today with a simple message.
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NATO stands with you today, tomorrow,
and for as long as it takes.
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The high school meet the first for the
boots coupons Dang gong in first Hamilton
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the only 1% org the alone all the men
sitting high back to be building up their
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bar and ultimate scope.
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Some come used to get in the merry Creek.
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Thank there's all the dog out of there
for that Creek or they can't get on
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something and not do that.
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We guaranteed along the secret.
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Hello.
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I.
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Believe you so we are you for Ukraine at
star cannot do here and on your leg in
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here for Allah some city on exact 30
minutes so come rearing in some of the
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formula was limited or not cannot do
propose a human till Rick stalking.
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So Oyadu was straight second,
the eye on President Putin.
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President Putin wanted less NATO.
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He's getting the exact opposite,
more NATO.
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What do you think about the argument
saying that it is NATO's expansion that
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triggered the war?
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What happened after the end of the Cold
War was that newly independent civil
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nations,
through democratic free processes,
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decided that they wanted to be part of
NATO.
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And should we say no, you don't have that,
that that freedom because Russia doesn't
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like it.
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And, you know, I'm from Norway,
and Norway is a small country born in
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Russia.
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And this idea that if free democratic
nations choose a part I don't like,
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I have the right to invade them.
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If you accept that,
then we move into a really dangerous
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world.
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One of the dilemmas we face is that there
can be no peace and stability in Europe
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without peace and stability in Ukraine.
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And I don't think there can be peace and
stability in Ukraine without Ukraine
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being part of NATO.
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But the membership?
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It's not something that is possible to
get allies to agree on today because then
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then NATO will be at war with Russia and
no one wants that.
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On the other hand,
if we say that they can only become
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members when the war is over,
that will give the ultimate incentive for
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President Putin to just continue the war.
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This week is the NATO summit in Lithuania.
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Ukraine's President Zelensky will attend
to spite his country not being a member.
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Zelensky saying that he's not going to go
to the summit for fun.
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There are concrete outcomes if you want.
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Zelensky has accused NATO of weakness and
uncertainty.
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Zelensky has cranked up the rhetoric.
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Tonight,
Ukraine's president was given a seat at
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NATO's table for dinner at least morning,
morning, morning.
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How was your dinner?
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It was.
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It was a very nice dinner.
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And also all the leaders and we were as I
sat together with the set and scale the
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government, how was it?
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Yeah.
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Is there anything?
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So we discussed membership for like 2
hours.
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Also, we were sitting,
I was sitting as a very intense Smiley
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said that now they're celebrating in
Moscow.
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But it says that in a friendly way.
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It's understandable.
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He says that he's at the war.
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So did he really think that membership
was on the table?
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Well, you can't.
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No, I, I, I agree with with Kristen,
he's at the war.
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So it's there's a kind of war mentality.
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This is quite special to the honest.
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Yeah.
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But of course, ultimately,
it is a decision is for allies to decide,
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and the priority remains for Ukraine to
prevail.
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This is a press conference.
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Yeah, That's fine.
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So yeah, he may get done.
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Yeah.
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And this is really our ability to shape
the story today with you on stage
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together with him.
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And I think also have all the body
language matters.
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So, you know, look at him,
smile at the end, shake hands.
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I think,
I think the most important thing is that
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try to convince him that he can,
he can turn this into a my task as a
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middleman is to ensure that Solinsky and
Neidu allies are able to stand united
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because perception matters.
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While I fully understand that the
Ukrainians have to bark to get more
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support, they should not bite the hand.
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They are so dependent on shake hand.
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I don't have so long.
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Thank you very much.
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Because it was very nice to live by the
time and not the frog more cult and
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people are busy people.
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So that the chicken is supposed to be
Germany US because if they're smaller,
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you can push them.
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But you know, it's a bit harder.
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So but but you call me if there's
anything.
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I also call.
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OK, great.
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Have to begin.
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I understand the next step you will still
for today it's on the standard,
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but you know maybe you'll continue.
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No, no, no, no.
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Ukraine is now closer to NATO than ever
before,
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and we will issue an invitation for
Ukraine to join NATO when allies agree
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that conditions are met.
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We did what you said.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes.
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But I mean, it's better because now.
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Yeah.
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This is text we have.
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So let me just.
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I remember about it.
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If you think that I forgot.
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No, no.
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But you should call,
then I can show you around.
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No, you know which mountains.
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And we can do some fishing after the war.
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After all,
we'll meet and we will have time.
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Welcome to all of you.
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And I'm really honoured to welcome in our
midst our dear friend Vladimir Zrensky.
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Today we meet as equals,
and I look forward to the day we meet as
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allies.
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All 32 allies are sovereign nations.
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And then, you know,
they have to be treated as such.
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It's all a consensus building machine.
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Consensus means that any ally on any
issue can say, no,
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I'm not going to agree to this.
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That is one of the key roles of the sort
of secretary general is sort of, you know,
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keeping the machine going.
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Good morning.
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Oh, I'm very safe with all of you.
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He's a very touchy person.
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He slaps the back.
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He, he, he grabs them by the, by the,
you know, by the elbows.
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There's a lot of kinetic and tactile work
ongoing.
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When you see two leaders using that same
technique, it's almost a bit comical,
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but it is effective.
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Two men united, you know,
with hands on their shoulders.
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But I think this is not just a technique,
it's a genuine expression.
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I care about you, I touch you,
I'm here with you.
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I feel safe with the European Union, Iraq.
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Some of us are politicians and sometimes
you don't have the best message to sell,
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but they sell it.
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I've been selling the same message.
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My father, it was on which politician,
foreign minister of defence, minister,
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from my father,
but actually also from my mother,
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I learned the value of engaging people
and listening to people.
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I default,
meaning you know I'm in the do family.
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I.
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Both my mother and my father were engaged
in the Labour Party and they also had a
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lot of guests coming in from all over the
world, politicians, but also authors,
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artists and just to see and watch as a
child so many different people being
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together has shaped me.
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You talking to people is is absolutely
essential and you have to talk to people
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you disagree with.
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I think the important thing here is there
are no villains here but you.
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There are allies who have particular
concerns,
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perhaps concerns that are outside of the
sort of broad consensus with the rest of
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the alliance.
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But to be honest,
Turkey is objection to Sweden came like a
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bolt from the blue.
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Turkey has blocked talks on Sweden
joining NATO.
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Is this a failure for NATO or is it more
a failure for Sweden?
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And does it project disunity as you're
gathering Vilnius?
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Yeah, I think this is quite good.
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I will.
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I will welcome them and then go through
this one more or less.
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And then I think we should very quickly
come to an actual negotiations on the
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text.
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Always try to suggest that we hold the
pen because I'm I'm worried about some
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crazy formulation being thrown out on the
table that is not going to be impossible
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to get out of it.
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And then I mean the greatest hits.
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So you he brings up the Quran burnings.
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How do you want to handle that?
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Yes.
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I think first of all, I,
I should try to get in case they don't
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handle it.
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So I, I,
it's easy to end in a position where I
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defend the suites and As for as long as
possible as you're trying to not be the
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spokesperson for the Swedish government.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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On our way to us.
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That's just one of their plans to come in.
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More than one Turkey as president is due
at that NATO summit.
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He's expected to meet the Swedish Prime
Minister to discuss Stockholm's stalled
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application to join the alliance.
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The Swedish session process,
in particular you This has been some hard
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diplomatic graft.
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Dozens of trips to Ankara,
dozens of trips to Stockholm.
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This has been in the trenches.
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The Turks had issues,
particularly with the Swedes,
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when it came to terrorism.
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Why aren't you extraditing more
terrorists?
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Early this year we had a number of Koran
burnings in Sweden and that put a
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complete halt to the thing.
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On one of the trips we took to Takea,
President Erdogan invited the SEC Gen.
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and his wife on a boat trip down the
Bosphorus.
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And you being willing to invest this kind
of time really matters.
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Ultimately,
you need to trust the person on the
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opposite side of the table,
and you need someone to close the deal.
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I think this week actually also
recognized that some of their terrorism
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legislation was a bit too LAX,
but they strengthen that and I think
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they've delivered enough so that now it's
time to move.
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Good to see you.
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My best regards to my wife indeed.
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And also saw the Prime Minister.
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Yes.
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And we saw your big aircraft.
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So we we parked next to your your
airplane.
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OK.
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Thank you very much.
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You're doing just close up,
I'm doing I'm I'm the bad couple.
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I think that's a given.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Well, when it comes to Sweden, guy,
this is a real plot twist now by
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President Erdogan because we know that he
is a tough negotiator.
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But today he's taking things a step
further and now says we need to talk
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about Turkey and the European Union.
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Almost implied that if you want Turkey to
say yes to Sweden joining NATO,
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then we need to talk about Turkey and the
European Union.
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This is a complete plot twist.
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You.
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This EU thing seems to have come a little
bit out of nowhere.
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Considering what's now happening,
this is very useful.
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Yeah.
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So this is 1.
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They're just going to have to swallow.
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And Sweden takes an initiative in the EU
to suggest to be launch this dialogue.
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So be So what?
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I mean, it costs them nothing.
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Yeah,
But that's in one way that's good news.
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That's good news.
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The Turks are pretty good at this.
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They'll do the same thing every time,
so when you think you're done,
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they'll come with one last thing.
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Sorry, guys,
the Turks are a bit disturbed that there
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are barriers and that, you know,
they're not allowed to buy American F
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sixteens.
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I have checked this with the Americans.
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They don't love it, but they're OK.
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And then at some stage, you know,
if this really goes down the down the
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drain,
the question is whether you speak to if
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we can't do a deal now,
it will take us another year,
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if not longer to get this standing.
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Mean time you'll have F sixteens.
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But I will sit with him alone.
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I can say that, of course,
the F sixteens and the the optics for the
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drones, that will not happen.
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You also tell him, yeah,
unless we get this done now.
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I mean,
you need to recognize this is bad for
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everyone.
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He's a very even keeled individual.
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He sets a good atmosphere for these kinds
of negotiations.
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And because he does,
it is an extremely powerful signal when
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he suddenly gets very forceful because he
doesn't normally do that.
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They have something to talk about.
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Good evening.
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I'm glad to announce that, President,
everyone has agreed to forward the
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accession protocol as soon as possible.
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I.
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President Biden tonight is applauding
Turkey after that surprise announcement
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that it is dropping its opposition to
Sweden's bid to join NATO,
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a move the NATO secretary general tonight
is calling a historic step.
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It's a good day for NATO and a very bad
day for Vladimir Putin.
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The stress for the on holders among us.
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I mean I'll be done or unscrew the toss
me hands so possible so that they sent
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them.
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I also feel this very possible hopeful
thing towards oops and the way he had to
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stick his data unscrewed all many.
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You know that thing.
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So how much I that was said by my Monday
I will find socket.
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So stop them.
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Yeah, I I I mean how far?
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I guess something says so that I can't
predict my or not.
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Is it a bit warmer?
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This is impossible.
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This windows.
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I read the whole thing.
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When I speak with the defence industry,
they often tell me of the difficulties
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they face in finding investment.
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Because some investors have that
misguided idea that defence industry is
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somehow unethical.
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But there's nothing unethical about
helping Ukrainian soldiers to defend the
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country.
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There's nothing unethical about producing
weapons.
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But let me just think.
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Some investors have this guided idea that
the fence industry is somehow unethical,
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but there is nothing unethical about
producing weapons to defend NATO allies
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Public wants to go to military spending.
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We wanted invested in social and
environmental needs.
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Stoltenberg as a war criminal.
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Do you consider yourself as a dove or a
hawk?
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For me,
that's not a meaningful distinction
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because if a doe is a person that
believes in talking, negotiations,
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agreements, I believe in that.
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But if a hawk is a person that believes
that you need the strength to be able to
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create the conditions for meaningful
dialogue, I believe in that too.
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How can you be so convinced that there
are no other solutions,
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no other answers than more weapons to
secure peace in Europe?
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Because I I don't trust Moscow and
President Putin.
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I met President Putin in August 2000.
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He was newly appointed president that was
newly appointed Prime Minister.
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And at that stage,
I was absolutely confident that it was
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possible to work with Russia,
that we opened the border in the north
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for visa free travel.
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And we agreed the delimitation line in
the banks here in which I've negotiated
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in 40 years.
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After decades,
we were able to find a compromise based
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on mutual trust.
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And then, of course,
when there was this brutal ties attack in
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Norway where 77 people were killed,
President Putin called me and expressed
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his condolences.
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And that was at that time, I think,
heartfelt.
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Hello,
Rob Bauer from the chair of the military
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and, and, and this was my office.
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That was that was my office because I was
not here that day because I was in my
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residence.
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But this was I worked here for many,
many years.
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On the afternoon of 22nd of July 2011,
a man parked a car full of explosives on
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the other side of the fence.
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Here the bomb went off,
killing eight people in the building.
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The extreme right wing terrorist was
alone in executing it.
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His prime target was the Norwegian Labour
Party.
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Prime Minister Stoltenberg and my party,
and above all its use.
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The terrorist drove toward Uttaya Islands,
north of Oslo about 40 minutes right.
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Once he got to Uttaya Islands,
he shot and killed 69 participants,
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mainly children,
at the Labour Party summer camp.
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I send it flare out this one, Mr.
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Believer.
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I send it for a lunatic flare out this
one, Mr.
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Believer.
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Org touch head puts dead we are.
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Two slip for two slip on women.
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I rub it in a song.
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Terusia boots copper.
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We are some good news.
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Maybe hero speaker watch.
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What are Mayor Democraty, Mayor Opener,
or Mayor humanity?
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Now to the latest devastating strikes in
Ukraine.
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Russian missiles and drones raining down
across the country in the worst single
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attack since the war began.
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And this morning,
Ukrainian President Zelensky expressing
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frustration over the hold up on US weapon
supplies.
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Can you say if you want Ukraine or Russia
to win this war?
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I want everybody to stop dying.
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But you won't say that you want Ukraine
to win you.
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You know what I'll say?
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I'll say this.
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I want Europe to put up more money.
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The Ukrainians are not running out of
courage.
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They're running out of ammunition every
day of the lay in the US Congress.
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Just one thing on this y'all made the
point this morning.
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I think at least it's worth reflecting on
that he felt that it was too much red
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would be red as blaming Congress,
which he said he felt would be
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counterproductive.
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Yeah, that's very important.
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I mean, I'm not entirely sure,
but I think I think it's something at
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least we should.
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Absolutely.
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We always say the things that how I'm
this is always difficult.
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But one way you put pressure.
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On the other hand,
you may just force them to dig even more
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in and and and be entrenched so you can.
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The question is whether you have a direct
reference to the Congress or not.
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All allies now need to dig deep and
deliver quickly.
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I mean, that's also U.S.
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Congress.
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This is a critical moment.
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There would be a great historical mistake
to allow Allison.
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Yeah, I I think that's a good way forward.
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I also think that another way of saying
this,
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if we want to keep every day of delay in
delivery of support has real consequences
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on the battlefield.
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And then all allies,
they're just delete the use factors.
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Yeah, I see it a bit both ways,
but I'm not.
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Yeah, I, I think,
I think it's safer if that's safe,
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really do it.
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Supporting your kind is not a matter of
capacity or ability,
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it's a matter of political will.
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The.
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Dear friends, dear Allies,
so many good words have been said today
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about NATO's achievement throughout 75
years.
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I can say, you, dear friends,
that without this membership of NATO,
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I couldn't stand here in front of you as
a foreign minister of independent Estonia,
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because probably we would have had an
aggression from the east side.
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Our accession to NATO has honored all the
desire,
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all the struggle and all the fight of
generations of Hungarian people for
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freedom.
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We were determined to join NATO in 1999
because we felt it in our bones that the
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window of opportunity will not last
forever.
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Unfortunately,
Russia is on the March again, but happily,
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we are where we belong, at home,
resisting again like a rock.
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Thank you, Joe Barnes,
you're in Brussels covering NASA's 75th
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birthday.
489
00:55:33,550 --> 00:55:34,990
Were any slices of cake for you?
490
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:38,996
Yes,
against Stoltenberg and various foreign
491
00:55:38,996 --> 00:55:41,150
ministers did cut a cake today.
492
00:55:41,230 --> 00:55:47,030
And to mark the moment, actually,
if you like, take a step back.
493
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:49,110
We're looking at doubts.
494
00:55:49,550 --> 00:55:51,630
Is NATO doing enough to help Ukraine?
495
00:55:52,710 --> 00:56:14,800
It's not a positive and joyous mood in
Brussels or Ukraine at the moment.
496
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,198
I don't want to spoil the party,
the birthday party,
497
00:56:31,198 --> 00:56:38,232
but I came here against the background of
continued unprecedented missile and drone
498
00:56:38,232 --> 00:56:41,080
attacks of Russia against Ukraine.
499
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:48,520
Just tonight the city of Harkiv was hit
with thousands of of Shahed drones.
500
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:57,115
My main message today will be patriots
because saving Ukrainian lives,
501
00:56:57,115 --> 00:57:03,374
saving Ukrainian economy,
saving Ukrainian cities depends on the
502
00:57:03,374 --> 00:57:09,824
availability of patriots,
but providing patriots depends on Ellis,
503
00:57:09,824 --> 00:57:17,719
South Korea and Delta Romanians receive 2
batteries according to our information.
504
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,763
So they they are there,
but they struggle to understand why the
505
00:57:22,763 --> 00:57:24,280
United States and others.
506
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:33,941
Sorry, I have to leave my no, although I,
I, I think,
507
00:57:33,941 --> 00:57:42,785
I think doctors are concerned and
especially I think you go away and say
508
00:57:42,785 --> 00:57:44,360
hello, hello.
509
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Let's see, how are you?
510
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,160
OK, You struggling fighting Minister?
511
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Hello.
512
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Let's see.
513
00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:43,158
The Ukrainians are not running out of
courage,
514
00:58:43,158 --> 00:58:45,890
they are running out of ammunition.
515
00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:50,890
All allies need to dig deep and deliver
quickly.
516
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:57,090
Every day of delay has real consequences
on the battlefield in Ukraine.
517
00:58:57,810 --> 00:58:59,370
So really a very simple question.
518
00:58:59,370 --> 00:59:04,213
Why are they running out of ammunition,
given they have the support of so many
519
00:59:04,213 --> 00:59:06,360
allies, so many powerful economies?
520
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,560
Does this represent a failure from NATO
allies?
521
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,440
We will stand by Ukraine for as long as
it takes.
522
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:43,028
It takes what what a moment so there I
would send them down and they'll store me
523
00:59:43,028 --> 00:59:46,000
OK not in the old level.
524
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:59,134
Some insistent the Democratic special
Yeah Lupa and many mobile in about the Co
525
00:59:59,134 --> 01:00:01,160
there for the.
526
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:09,042
Out that a guy don't mark up to see
things and you can see that we can hold
527
01:00:09,042 --> 01:00:09,320
up.
528
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:49,710
I just slept.
529
01:00:51,790 --> 01:00:52,790
How's that fine to do?
530
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:54,390
I say, yes, I know.
531
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:59,714
So I don't count the hours,
but that's something about movement and
532
01:00:59,714 --> 01:01:05,109
the strategic situation right now serves
as Guil Kabuli would say is they're
533
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:05,600
losing.
534
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,287
So there,
there there is no more counter offensive
535
01:01:09,287 --> 01:01:10,200
coming in time soon.
536
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,926
The Russians have an opportunity to
exploit right now when they're at an all
537
01:01:15,926 --> 01:01:17,400
time low with munitions.
538
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,423
I mean, I,
I think that the situation they're in
539
01:01:20,423 --> 01:01:22,000
right now is it's precarious.
540
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,578
The delay of six months of US support
meant that Russia took the initiative on
541
01:01:29,578 --> 01:01:31,040
the battle battlefield.
542
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,772
Putin is putting everything on the table
right now that he can as consensus
543
01:01:35,772 --> 01:01:36,400
opportunity.
544
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,400
So the problem is if the Russians do get
through that frontline, there's a,
545
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,320
there's a good chance they could keep
going.
546
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,080
This is also an opportunity for us.
547
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,400
We can stop him this summer.
548
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,520
Then he's going to respect Ukraine more
than ever.
549
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,000
This could turn the tide of the war right
here this summer, one way or the other.
550
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:28,320
Good, good trip.
551
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Yes, absolutely.
552
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,720
We were able to sleep and now it's full
summer in here.
553
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,360
Yeah, we managed to to to.
554
01:02:59,450 --> 01:03:02,690
President Zelensky,
can I ask you what's happening in the
555
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:02,970
east?
556
01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:06,610
Your forces seem to be retreating at the
moment.
557
01:03:06,610 --> 01:03:12,530
Is there a danger that your lines could
collapse with Russian advances?
558
01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:16,574
And then I would like to ask Secretary
General,
559
01:03:16,574 --> 01:03:21,782
I've listened to you for the past year
talking about ramping up ammunition in
560
01:03:21,782 --> 01:03:24,920
the West and glaciers have have melted
faster.
561
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,280
It's taking a long, long time.
562
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,630
I just wonder if you've apologised to
President Zelensky that NATO countries
563
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:35,480
have not delivered what they've promised.
564
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,040
Thank you.
565
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:46,032
NATO Allahs have not delivered what
they've promised and this had had serious
566
01:03:46,032 --> 01:03:48,360
consequences on the battlefield.
567
01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:25,390
I think we can actually debrief on some
of them.
568
01:04:25,630 --> 01:04:28,718
But first of all,
I think it wasn't even useful to spend
569
01:04:28,718 --> 01:04:29,910
time with the friends.
570
01:04:31,070 --> 01:04:34,484
I,
I think the other thing I noticed in her
571
01:04:34,484 --> 01:04:38,830
today and Tom said I,
I definitely sensed panic, panic.
572
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:39,150
I do.
573
01:04:40,070 --> 01:04:43,245
I do because I,
I think Solinsky was very calm in the way
574
01:04:43,245 --> 01:04:44,560
he no, I don't think so.
575
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,560
I think he was twitchy.
576
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,040
I think he couldn't stay focused.
577
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,560
I think they need help.
578
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,240
We need to deliver some air defense over
here pretty quickly.
579
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,471
I really believe that their tasks are
starting to get more random,
580
01:04:58,471 --> 01:05:02,760
which which is an indication of how bad
the situation is on the ground.
581
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,240
Quite frankly, we'll be more than that.
582
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,480
The the calmer you are,
the more rational your requests are.
583
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,440
They're asking for anything and
everything right now.
584
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,704
But what struck me was his concern about
potentially losing car cue if they don't
585
01:05:19,704 --> 01:05:20,920
get more air defense.
586
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,800
That would be obviously that would be
better.
587
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,040
I think that's I think that's that's lost
already.
588
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:30,560
Yeah.
589
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,840
Well do do lost the hard cue is a second
or is it Yes.
590
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:41,092
Do I think there's 150,
000 people massing they're not going to
591
01:05:41,092 --> 01:05:46,280
sacrifice the Ukrainian forces there to
defend that enclave anymore.
592
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,400
I I I suspect that there's an assault
that he'll he'll withdrawal.
593
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,320
So so I think this is pretty painful to
him.
594
01:05:54,320 --> 01:06:03,400
OK, I was going to do that.
595
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:04,920
Getting some fruit had some.
596
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,000
Hello.
597
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:03,440
That should obviously be that Ukraine
wins.
598
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:20,271
My president has used this terrible
phrase that we're with you for as long as
599
01:07:20,271 --> 01:07:22,200
it takes.
600
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,000
That is an empty statement that does not
bring one round of ammunition.
601
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:33,710
I think a lot of European and Western
leaders know that deep down that they are
602
01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:38,840
reluctant to follow the next step which
is going on in supporting Ukraine.
603
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,878
And for me it's a tragedy because they
are fighting a war to defend democracy in
604
01:07:44,878 --> 01:07:48,000
Europe and there's no Western boots on
the ground.
605
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,880
They are fighting our war.
606
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,800
At the end of the day, it's in our hands.
607
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:38,691
All it takes sometimes is somebody in the
right place at the right time saying the
608
01:08:38,691 --> 01:08:41,760
right things and everything can change.
609
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:45,100
I demonstrate.
610
01:09:54,000 --> 01:10:06,560
You made it, You made it.
611
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,560
Like the headquarters of the sector
general.
612
01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:33,000
Hello Dimitro.
613
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,680
Hello Dimitro.
614
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:50,390
My long term aim is to get Ukraine into
NATO.
615
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:56,867
But in the meantime,
the mission is the best way to ensure
616
01:10:56,867 --> 01:11:01,000
that Ukraine gets the military support
they need to prevail.
617
01:11:08,730 --> 01:11:09,170
Dimitro.
618
01:11:11,170 --> 01:11:11,650
Dimitro.
619
01:11:12,930 --> 01:11:15,490
Hello, yen.
620
01:11:15,730 --> 01:11:16,290
How are you?
621
01:11:16,490 --> 01:11:17,450
I am fine.
622
01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:18,770
And I hope you are fine, too.
623
01:11:20,650 --> 01:11:21,130
I am.
624
01:11:21,250 --> 01:11:24,790
When I start my working day with a
conversation with a friend,
625
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:25,690
I'm always here.
626
01:11:25,730 --> 01:11:25,970
Fine.
627
01:11:26,250 --> 01:11:27,170
That's very good.
628
01:11:27,490 --> 01:11:28,170
Same for me.
629
01:11:28,170 --> 01:11:29,090
OK, Good.
630
01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:29,490
Good.
631
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,280
So what are you hoping for?
632
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,080
I have circulated a proposal to allies
for a package for Ukraine.
633
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,095
For me,
what is important is that this mission is
634
01:11:42,095 --> 01:11:45,966
actually responsible for coordinating
military support,
635
01:11:45,966 --> 01:11:48,040
including lead laid of course.
636
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,418
And 2nd,
I just believe that we will be less
637
01:11:51,418 --> 01:11:56,926
vulnerable for new political leaders on
both sides of the Atlantic if this is a
638
01:11:56,926 --> 01:12:01,195
NATO mission with a, a,
a kind of agreed funding than if it's
639
01:12:01,195 --> 01:12:05,120
just only a coalition of,
of the willing where they can.
640
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,000
I should say more.
641
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,400
Let's do what they want from a day-to-day
or month to month.
642
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,544
The challenge is, of course,
that I don't have full agreement among
643
01:12:14,544 --> 01:12:19,016
allies, some allies, not many,
but some allies are still very skeptical
644
01:12:19,016 --> 01:12:20,880
against the idea of a mission.
645
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:21,880
They don't.
646
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,520
They don't.
647
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,720
They don't want the NATO flag and NATO
institution around this support.
648
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:26,640
OK.
649
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,520
Now I have a better understanding of how
you see these in this this mechanism.
650
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,000
I'm.
651
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,680
I'm really grateful for for your ambition
and that you keep pushing.
652
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,240
And yeah, I'm ready.
653
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,760
I'm ready to work with you on this.
654
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:41,360
Very good.
655
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:41,480
OK.
656
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:42,440
Good.
657
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:42,760
Good.
658
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,360
Have a good day.
659
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:43,520
Yeah.
660
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:43,840
Bye.
661
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Bye to you.
662
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,320
Same to you, Dimitrov.
663
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:45,520
Bye.
664
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:45,600
Bye.
665
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,400
I understand you've been working on an
idea.
666
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,640
Could you tell us a bit more about it?
667
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,560
Remember,
we were briefed on this 100 billion.
668
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,600
And is it a form of a Trump proof as well?
669
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,440
The reason why we discussed this is that
we see the situation on the battlefield.
670
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,360
We see how demanding and difficult the
situation is in Ukraine.
671
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,398
So therefore,
we welcome everything NATO allies have
672
01:13:15,398 --> 01:13:15,640
done.
673
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,160
At the same time,
we see that we need to do more.
674
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:18,520
It's not.
675
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,200
It's not enough.
676
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:03,900
The finish position is is very clear.
677
01:14:04,180 --> 01:14:08,420
We need long term sustainable commitments
for for aiding Ukraine.
678
01:14:08,740 --> 01:14:11,340
NATO must take the greater and more clear
role.
679
01:14:11,420 --> 01:14:16,680
Poland will also be supporting the
creation of a NATO missions.
680
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,450
Get the weapons,
get the ammunition and get the support to
681
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:21,920
Ukraine that they need.
682
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,680
Thank you very much.
683
01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:56,570
I usually do.
684
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,080
I.
685
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:43,280
Just one small thing,
I had two very good conversations.
686
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,250
Second, I respect the positions,
but of course I would like to try to find
687
01:15:53,250 --> 01:15:54,880
out and got the solution.
688
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,452
So I will of course argue in favour of my
proposal,
689
01:15:58,452 --> 01:16:03,520
but I also call it some others that we
should try not to be too confrontational.
690
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,154
And and I will not try to force a
decision in the meeting today or tomorrow
691
01:16:07,154 --> 01:16:09,880
because the whole idea is now not to
decide the mission.
692
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,200
The whole idea now is to start planning.
693
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,351
Yeah,
because if you started planning now high,
694
01:16:15,351 --> 01:16:15,680
high.
695
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,621
But they, they,
they will need weeks and months and then
696
01:16:19,621 --> 01:16:21,280
we have April and May to.
697
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,318
And of course,
no decision will be taken until we all
698
01:16:25,318 --> 01:16:26,640
agree on the mission.
699
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,027
So if we can agree to start the planning
today,
700
01:16:29,027 --> 01:16:32,160
that's not the final decision on anything
except for planning.
701
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:33,760
Oh, good to see you.
702
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,720
So it's not within reach today, you think?
703
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,160
Yeah, Yeah.
704
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,635
But as you put it in a way which does not
put too much pressure on you or they say
705
01:16:41,635 --> 01:16:44,440
that we are not taking part in the
planning period.
706
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:47,640
You say that and then we can sit down
afterwards and sort it out.
707
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,560
And I also told Victor I can go to
Budapest.
708
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:52,680
Long time.
709
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,240
I've not been there.
710
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,400
What?
711
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,720
You never do.
712
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:56,960
No.
713
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:57,640
Right.
714
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,840
Let's do that.
715
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:00,120
Hello.
716
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:06,800
Good to see you.
717
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,160
I think they're ready to agree to start.
718
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,680
They will not, they will not support them.
719
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,440
They won't stop it.
720
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,640
No, that was so we don't need to.
721
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,673
We need the balance between being clear,
but not as I say,
722
01:17:19,673 --> 01:17:25,360
too confrontational because then they
will dig deep into the the trenches.
723
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:30,240
So it's a clear but nice message,
which is very easy for you.
724
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,200
Follow your lead.
725
01:17:52,230 --> 01:17:52,750
You will leave.
726
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,680
We're two weeks out from the summit now.
727
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:33,760
The job at this stage is to just close
down the various agreements.
728
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,756
Almost all the activity is sort of
devoted to using his time as effectively
729
01:18:38,756 --> 01:18:41,760
as possible,
unlock the things that only he can unlock.
730
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:59,801
Vegan Belgian waffles We will increase
defence spending to a new baseline of 2
731
01:18:59,801 --> 01:19:02,360
1/2% of GDP.
732
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,676
The UK,
the Netherlands and others have announced
733
01:19:06,676 --> 01:19:10,640
additional significant major,
additional major contributions.
734
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:22,360
OK, she said.
735
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:22,760
Good.
736
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,280
Oh man, back in trouble.
737
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:33,040
General, Great to see you again.
738
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,120
Good to see you again on this vote.
739
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,160
The age of 311 and the age of 112.
740
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,120
The bill is passed, OK?
741
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,240
Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelensky
says he's grateful to the US House of
742
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,800
Representatives for passing a $61 billion
military aid package for Ukraine.
743
01:20:50,460 --> 01:20:50,620
I.
744
01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:21,227
We're currently trying to create this
scheme whereby they can at least credibly
745
01:21:21,227 --> 01:21:24,400
say publicly that they're not
participating in this.
746
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:30,240
They will need to opt out, as they say,
or non participate in some shape or form.
747
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:36,281
And that means that the Hungarian money
will not fund this particular mission,
748
01:21:36,281 --> 01:21:41,280
but that Hungary confirms that they will
not block out all the allies.
749
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:03,400
At the Danube don't forget that that was
the order of the Roman Empire.
750
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,865
So that's part where we are of the new
was part of Roman Empire,
751
01:22:08,865 --> 01:22:13,760
but they never moved that that was the
barbarian and the and the Hungarian.
752
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,240
So the people that live there, never.
753
01:22:26,140 --> 01:22:30,140
You become the head of the European
Commission.
754
01:22:32,980 --> 01:22:35,603
But you know,
the only problem is that Norway is not a
755
01:22:35,603 --> 01:22:36,700
member of the European.
756
01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:40,420
So I think that's a bit, a bit.
757
01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:42,700
No, no, that's all.
758
01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:46,500
No, because we are in trouble.
759
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:15,360
None.
760
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,040
It's a difficult time.
761
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,760
Our position is a difficult one to.
762
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,361
You know,
we always try to keep a sense of
763
01:23:50,361 --> 01:23:52,680
perspective on these things.
764
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,619
And the second is, of course,
particularly mindful about not allowing
765
01:23:57,619 --> 01:23:59,960
things to escalate out of control.
766
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,884
And you know,
we need to give allies a certain amount
767
01:24:05,884 --> 01:24:09,622
that we could as time goes on and the
more we give one,
768
01:24:09,622 --> 01:24:13,560
we fear that the more tensions will will
arise the matter.
769
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:19,474
And we end up in the same situation where
we would have been 2-2 years ago had we
770
01:24:19,474 --> 01:24:22,360
decided to sit people down at the table.
771
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,765
And but,
but I think that's why I'm confused
772
01:24:24,765 --> 01:24:28,560
because it's not sitting down at the
table is currently not an option.
773
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,720
Putin has no interest in doing that.
774
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:32,640
So that's the problem.
775
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,400
And how do you incentivize Putin to come
to the table?
776
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,760
I think the only way we can centralise it
is to make this quite painful.
777
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,880
This was this was a very good meeting.
778
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,720
So we sold the both the successor and the
and the.
779
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:12,720
Yes.
780
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,680
Can you put it in plain English for us?
781
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,446
What has been agreed until now,
we've had individual NATO countries
782
01:26:32,446 --> 01:26:35,040
supporting Ukraine in different ways.
783
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,120
NATO's stepping into the breach there and
taking a much more important role.
784
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:40,280
So Mr.
785
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:45,564
Stoltenberg came to Budapest seeking the
guarantee that Hungary would not block
786
01:26:45,564 --> 01:26:50,320
those changes in NATO's approach to
Ukraine, while at the same time Mr.
787
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,560
Orban got the guarantees that Hungary
will not be paying anything.
788
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,080
In a way, Mr.
789
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,160
Stoltenberg and Mr.
790
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Orban,
both of them got what they wanted today.
791
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,480
Well, Secretary General,
welcome back from the whole office.
792
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:37,040
I have to say ahead of time,
I'm going to miss you.
793
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,840
I'm going to miss you.
794
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,280
Well, I mean, sincerely,
you've been great.
795
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,400
I just wish you'd extend this term
another 10 years.
796
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,290
Former President Trump has suggested that
the US could pull out of NATO or if
797
01:28:00,290 --> 01:28:02,160
countries do not share the burden.
798
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,440
How seriously are you taking those
threats?
799
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,560
How long do you think it will take for
every member of the alliance to reach 2%?
800
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,480
I have another Trump question.
801
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,118
How would you characterize your
relationship with the former President
802
01:28:16,118 --> 01:28:16,440
Trump?
803
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,053
He had a very clear message on the need
for European allies to spend the more and
804
01:28:21,053 --> 01:28:21,960
I agree with him.
805
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:31,328
And the good news is that this year,
23 out of 32 allies will spend 2% or more
806
01:28:31,328 --> 01:28:33,920
of the GDP on the fence.
807
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,240
And when we made the page,
there were actually only three allies.
808
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:43,400
So this is a big change and it is
reducing the burden on the United States.
809
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,480
Your statement on the the 23 countries
that's getting a lot of good coverage.
810
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,240
That's good.
811
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,080
New York Times.
812
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:52,360
Yeah.
813
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,560
Should we talk about that all the time?
814
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:56,800
Yeah.
815
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:57,240
Yeah.
816
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,920
The boss has received a message from the
dollar.
817
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:01,080
Oh, really?
818
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:03,600
Yes.
819
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,420
Yens,
thank you for your nice statement on Fox
820
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:06,720
News.
821
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:12,245
We did indeed get lots of money and
quickly from those nations that were not
822
01:29:12,245 --> 01:29:13,480
paid, not paid off.
823
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,120
Keep up there at work.
824
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,960
You do not have the easiest job.
825
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,360
Look forward to seeing you soon, Donald.
826
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,880
Wow, Donald,
thank you very much for your message.
827
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,440
Hope to see you soon too.
828
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:27,840
Best deal.
829
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:35,360
OK, but then seriously, how do we respond?
830
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,280
You know, thank you very,
very much for your message.
831
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:40,560
I agree.
832
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,480
It's good to see that finally the
Europeans are getting paid up.
833
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,187
She mentioned Russia that needs a
stronger and and just stand up against
834
01:29:49,187 --> 01:29:51,760
all the time regimes like Russia and
China.
835
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,480
OK, yeah.
836
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,828
But the good news is that if they're
embraced the 23,
837
01:29:59,828 --> 01:30:04,376
then they take ownership to a positive
story about NATO,
838
01:30:04,376 --> 01:30:10,440
which is very good and also indicates
that they're not going to leave NATO.
839
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,440
NATO celebrating 75 years, you mentioned,
not quite as old as President Joe Biden.
840
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,880
Good to see you.
841
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,040
Yeah, thank you very much.
842
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,080
I'm very happy to be here with you for
this session.
843
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:52,080
You do.
844
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,720
Thank you for the the millions.
845
01:30:58,720 --> 01:30:59,960
So you reached 2%.
846
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,040
The first time I met him, he was at 1.
9 or something.
847
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,120
1.6 yeah, 1.6.
848
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,800
Then he promised to fix it and he fixed
it.
849
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:09,080
So now.
850
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,680
What happens to Ukraine matters.
851
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,960
It matters to NATO, quite frankly,
matters to the whole world.
852
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:33,249
And now I want to hand it over to the
president of Ukraine,
853
01:31:33,249 --> 01:31:36,360
who has as much courage as he has
determination.
854
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,592
Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin,
President Putin,
855
01:31:40,592 --> 01:31:42,640
you can beat President Putin.
856
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,480
President Alinsky,
I'm so focused on beating Putin.
857
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,480
We got to worry about it anyway.
858
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:49,520
Mr.
859
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,440
President, you are a hell walk.
860
01:31:51,440 --> 01:32:16,070
Thank you so much.
861
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:22,870
We can be the welcome.
862
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:31,800
We met five years ago,
his first visit five years ago.
863
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,280
That was another made with tie and his
shirt.
864
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,160
I do like, I do like your shirt.
865
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,120
Where's the I hope the president of the
States is here.
866
01:32:51,160 --> 01:33:08,573
We need to sit over here,
but we can say hello to to we saw each
867
01:33:08,573 --> 01:33:11,520
other, yes.
868
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,541
But you know,
Tortilla supported you very early with
869
01:33:21,541 --> 01:33:23,040
the monitor drones.
870
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,080
Well, yes, almost.
871
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:41,980
The president was really promise to stick
to, I would say after spoken,
872
01:33:41,980 --> 01:33:52,240
but thank you for thinking because I need
to impose some discipline in this group.
873
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,520
But you know, I can I can run.
874
01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:48,530
The promise to Zalenski was to continue
that support for as long as it takes.
875
01:34:49,450 --> 01:34:55,610
That is hugely important to the to the
secretary general and I think to some
876
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:59,210
extent it's been a driver of his
engagement.
877
01:35:01,130 --> 01:35:04,380
At the same time,
it is also a burden because it's a
878
01:35:04,380 --> 01:35:05,730
promise that you make.
879
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:13,782
It is difficult for yourself to deliver
because you have to bring others together
880
01:35:13,782 --> 01:35:15,680
to be able to deliver it.
881
01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:35,830
That was the last piece of paper.
882
01:35:37,630 --> 01:35:37,910
Very good.
883
01:35:41,550 --> 01:35:41,990
This all done.
884
01:35:42,350 --> 01:35:43,150
Now we can have here.
885
01:35:45,310 --> 01:35:45,950
Let's have a beer.
886
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,480
I came to NATO in 2014 with a message of
the terrorist defense and dialogue.
887
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,880
I still believe in that message.
888
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:14,598
At some stage we have to talk to Russia
again,
889
01:36:14,598 --> 01:36:21,234
and there are many examples that
countries that have fought each other for
890
01:36:21,234 --> 01:36:23,800
for centuries can be friends.
891
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,260
Germany, France,
United Kingdom and many other powers
892
01:36:29,260 --> 01:36:33,440
there have been in war with each other
for centuries.
893
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:41,374
Swedes and Danes and Fins and Norwegians,
we used to kill each other in and there's
894
01:36:41,374 --> 01:36:44,440
a number of wars now we're living in deep
peace.
895
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:52,640
It is not written in stone that we should
have a bad relationship with Russia.
896
01:36:53,960 --> 01:37:15,073
It is possible to change if there's
anything to to support you after I just
897
01:37:15,073 --> 01:37:29,520
tell me Ukraine is really the most
important thing.
898
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:30,680
So so thank you.
899
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:36,430
I can call more all the all the Prime
Minister friends on the tell them to
900
01:37:36,430 --> 01:37:39,960
deliver more weapons,
whatever that was seriously.
901
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,480
Also I feel that's the most meaningful
thing right now.
902
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:49,626
So now it's I don't break free,
free to work in was it you know,
903
01:37:49,626 --> 01:37:53,760
sure he was the first interview with
Trump.
904
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:59,200
Yes, I remember I spoke with Obama.
905
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:09,200
Who knows, Who knows?
906
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,135
NATO's alliance of nation were also
made-up of leading,
907
01:38:13,135 --> 01:38:18,756
and one person in particular has done an
extraordinary job leading NATO for the
908
01:38:18,756 --> 01:38:19,599
last decade.
909
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,744
Secretary General Stoltenberg,
when you come forward,
910
01:38:24,744 --> 01:38:28,766
he's a man of integrity,
an intellectual wiggard,
911
01:38:28,766 --> 01:38:34,880
a calm temperament and moment of crisis,
a consummate diplomat who works as
912
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:41,236
leaders across the political spectrum and
always finds a way to keep it moving
913
01:38:41,236 --> 01:38:41,880
forward.
914
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,476
Secretary,
you've guided this alliance through one
915
01:38:44,476 --> 01:38:46,280
of the most consequential periods in the
system.
916
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,480
I realized I was talking to your wife.
917
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,000
I personally ask you to extend your
service.
918
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:55,320
Forgive me.
919
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,120
And you put your own plans on hold.
920
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:04,545
And a billion people across Europe and
North America, indeed the whole world,
921
01:39:04,545 --> 01:39:07,920
will reap the rewards of your labor for
years to come.
922
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,659
For these reasons,
I'm pleased to warn you,
923
01:39:11,659 --> 01:39:16,515
the highest civilian I of the United
States can bestow the Presidential Medal
924
01:39:16,515 --> 01:39:17,199
of Freedom.
925
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:18,520
Ask the military.
926
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:00,640
Music.
927
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:08,040
I.
928
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,040
Music.
929
01:41:40,230 --> 01:41:40,470
Music.
930
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:15,590
Music.
931
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:22,360
Music.
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