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Lucas. Looks like
the word's out.
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You got the best
game in town.
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Hope you've got room for me
at the table tonight.
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I'm sorry, Viv.
Not tonight.
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Hey.
Lucas, come on.
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Have I ever left you
high and dry before?
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Well, word is
you left Asher Ray
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very high and dry.
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And I don't have
any interest
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in getting in line behind
that guy when you lose my money.
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I don't like chamomile.
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How many times do
I have to tell you?
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I want Earl Grey.
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But Earl Grey
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has caffeine in it.
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You will never be able
to get to sleep.
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Here.
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Just try this.
I put some honey in it for you.
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I told you
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I don't want it!
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Idiot.
All right, Dad, that's enough.
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Ha. You're home early.
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Couldn't get anyone
to buy you a drink?
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I've got this.
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Why don't you take off
a little early?
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You sure?
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Oh, that's great.
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Reward her incompetence
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by sending her home
halfway through her shift.
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I'm sure.
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Oh, that's
right,
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I forgot.
Money...
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It's just a game to you.
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Out all hours at poker tables
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like some lowlife.
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Well, I'm sorry
I disappointed you so.
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I'll be right back
with some Earl Grey, Dad.
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Just the way you like it.
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You want your tea and pills yet?
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What's your rush?
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Give me a little time
to wake up.
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I'm not trying to rush you, Dad.
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I just want to go upstairs
and take a shower.
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I just want to be sure
you're okay out here.
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Why shouldn't I be okay?
I spend every morning out here.
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I know, Dad.
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But it's Cecilia's day off
and I'm all alone
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and I won't be able to hear
if you need anything.
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The only thing I need
is for you to leave me alone!
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Okay, Dad.
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I'll be back in just a bit.
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You ready to come back in, Dad?
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You got your fresh air
for the day?
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Oh, how'd that get there?
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Dad?
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Patricide.
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Killing a parent.
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Ooh, that is a nasty
thing to be accused of.
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Especially if you didn't do it.
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Mm.
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So, who's Vivian Cahill?
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You've got the file.
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No, I mean, who is she to you?
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Old friend.
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Used to play
the same poker game years ago.
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Mm.
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Vivian.
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She was just out of college and
she could wipe the floor with me
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and anyone else in the room.
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And then?
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And then
I stopped playing cards.
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According to the police report,
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your father died of blunt force
trauma to the head.
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And the medical examiner
has matched the wound to blood
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on a fireplace poker
found at the scene.
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The police and paramedics
who responded to your call
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said that you were
the only one home with him
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at the time.
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I was upstairs, at the back
of the house, showering.
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Blow-drying my hair.
Anyone could've come in.
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Well, a-according
to the reports,
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there were no signs
of forced entry.
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My dad liked
to sit alone out there
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for about an hour every morning.
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Last year he had a
series of strokes.
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First one was in the summer.
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Since then he's pretty much
always yelling at someone.
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Mostly, yours truly.
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Hmm. And you were
living with your father?
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His health was
declining pretty quickly,
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so I moved home
to help him.
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Spend time with him.
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How was that going?
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Not great.
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Dad's always had a temper,
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and he could be
pretty tough on me.
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Did your dad know
about your gambling?
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Oh, yes.
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Not a fan.
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The occasional gentleman's game
is one thing,
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but for his only daughter
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to be a lowlife,
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compulsive,
degenerate gambler...
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Did you continue to gamble
while you were living with him?
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Yes.
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It...
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it actually
got a bit out of control.
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How big a hole
we talking about?
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$300,000.
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Wow.
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That is a lot of money.
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And who do you owe the money to?
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A guy named Asher Ray.
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He runs a game out of Westport.
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And he's been breathing
down my neck pretty hard
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to get his money.
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Well, I hate to be indelicate,
but your dad's death
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kind of solved all of that,
didn't it?
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How much do you stand
to inherit?
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$27 million.
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So if I'm the prosecutor,
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this looks like
patricide for profit.
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I know that.
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Hey, old friend.
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That's why I called you.
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Mm.
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What a beautiful little girl.
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Oh, man.
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You guys come up
with a name yet?
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Uh, no. Hospital keeps calling.
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They're acting like
we're trying to pull a fast one.
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Well, it is a little peculiar,
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you not having a name
for your child.
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It's not like you didn't have
nine months to think about it.
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Ah. We just have very different
points of view.
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You have a name in your head?
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Actually, yeah.
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When I look at her,
I see Ingrid.
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- Ingrid.
- Yeah.
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That's such a pretty name.
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Your sister's convinced
she's an Asa.
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Asa?
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A-S-A.
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Asa.
Means goddess.
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Oh.
That's a good one, too.
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You are gonna be
no help at all on this,
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- are you?
- Nope.
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I was not born yesterday, sir.
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So...
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Voir dire. Talk to me.
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What are we looking for?
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It's actually pretty simple.
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I think we want jurors who will
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look at Vivian
and see someone so sharp,
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so well-adjusted,
that they're just gonna
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reject the idea
that she'd be involved
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in something as heinous
and perverse as patricide.
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Mm.
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So... what am I looking for?
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People from close,
happy families
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who'd never dream
of hurting a loved one?
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No.
It's quite the opposite.
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We want people from complicated,
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dysfunctional families.
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The more difficult
their home life, the better.
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People who know
that just 'cause you want
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to kill a family member
doesn't mean
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that you actually
would kill them.
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So...
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who here spent the holidays
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with their family?
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Wow.
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So, you spent
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the holidays with your family
and lived to tell about it.
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Yes, I did and yes, I did.
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Okay, all right, all right.
So, how was it?
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Fantastic.
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My husband, kids and I
rent a cabin every year
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with my two sisters
and their families.
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It's not fancy,
but we always have a great time.
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So, no fighting?
O raised voices?
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Of course not.
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Liar, liar, pants on fire.
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Either that or there's a whole
lot of drinking going on.
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Your Honor...
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...we'd like to, uh, thank
and excuse this juror.
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And what about
you, sir?
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Did you spend the holidays
with your family?
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Afraid so.
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I take it it wasn't fantastic?
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It was three days of listening
to my brother humblebrag
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about his big job
and his hot girlfriend.
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And wanting to shove fruitcake
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down my gluten-free,
macrobiotic stepmom's throat.
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All of that
while dogs barked,
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kids screamed and the worst
music you ever heard
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played nonstop.
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Mm. My condolences.
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You ever think about
just skipping it?
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Not going?
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You mean not show up
for Christmas with my family?
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Sure. People do it.
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Not me.
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I mean, my family drives me
nuts, but they're my family.
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Your Honor, the defense
finds this juror acceptable.
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Nice work today in court, sir.
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You want to grab some lunch?
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Uh, actually,
I'm thinking about skipping it.
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Are you okay?
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Yeah, I'm fine.
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I just ate something
I shouldn't have for breakfast.
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Hey. I think I'm just
gonna sit here.
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You get yourself
something to eat.
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That is not gonna happen.
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Maybe we should
get you to see a doctor?
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No, no, no, no.
I'm-I'm good.
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I'm telling you,
it's no big deal.
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Hey, that is some jury
we snagged, huh?
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Well, yeah.
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Over two-thirds of them
haven't prejudged Vivian.
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I'd say that's
once in a lifetime.
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Now if I could
just convince you
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to get in a car with me
and go to the emergency room,
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so someone could
take a look at you?
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Well, that's not gonna happen.
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And how long did you work
as a home health care worker
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for the defendant
and her father?
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I worked in their home
for a little over four months.
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And during that time,
did you become aware
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that the defendant was
deeply in debt to someone?
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Yes.
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And how did you come
to know this?
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One day, um,
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when I was working
for Mr. Cahill,
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um, a man came to see Vivian.
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I was in the next room,
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and it got pretty loud.
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And what was
said that led you to believe
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Vivian owed money
to this man?
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Everything.
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He was yelling
that she owed him
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hundreds of thousands
of dollars.
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That did she really
think that he'd
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just turn
and look the other way?
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And how did
the defendant respond to that?
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She told him
that she didn't have
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any money to give him
right then.
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That he needed to be patient.
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Did this seem to satisfy him?
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No.
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He said people were
coming down on him.
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People that he
owed money to.
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And how did the defendant
respond to that?
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She begged him for more time.
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And swore that she will pay it
all back when her dad died
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and she came
into her inheritance.
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So Vivian was counting
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on her father's death
to bail her out of trouble?
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Objection.
Calls for speculation.
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Sustained. Ask another question,
Counselor.
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I have no further questions,
Your Honor.
263
00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,045
Your witness,
264
00:12:30,129 --> 00:12:32,162
Mr. Col�n.
265
00:12:41,908 --> 00:12:44,326
Hey.
266
00:12:47,131 --> 00:12:48,448
So, this, uh...
267
00:12:49,849 --> 00:12:53,069
...man who, uh,
came to see Vivian...
268
00:12:53,154 --> 00:12:54,903
Did you get a good look at him?
269
00:12:54,987 --> 00:12:56,919
Yes, I did.
270
00:12:57,091 --> 00:12:58,941
And was he a big guy?
271
00:12:59,025 --> 00:13:02,670
Yes, at least six foot, one,
maybe six foot, two.
272
00:13:02,755 --> 00:13:04,213
Lots of muscles.
273
00:13:04,297 --> 00:13:06,747
So, it is safe to say this man
274
00:13:06,832 --> 00:13:08,851
that Vivian owed money to
275
00:13:08,935 --> 00:13:11,186
was bigger and stronger
than she was?
276
00:13:11,270 --> 00:13:13,021
Yes, much.
277
00:13:13,105 --> 00:13:15,824
And, so, this big, strong man...
278
00:13:15,908 --> 00:13:18,160
He obviously
knew where
279
00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:20,429
Terrence Cahill lived.
280
00:13:20,513 --> 00:13:23,966
Obviously knew he...
had a nice house.
281
00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:27,135
Obviously knew he had
lots of money?
282
00:13:27,219 --> 00:13:28,285
Yes.
283
00:13:31,757 --> 00:13:33,609
Are you all right, Mr. Col�n?
284
00:13:33,693 --> 00:13:34,743
Yes, Your Honor.
285
00:13:34,827 --> 00:13:36,578
Yes, I am, uh...
286
00:13:36,662 --> 00:13:39,348
I'm fine, thank you.
287
00:13:39,432 --> 00:13:42,851
Now, this, uh, man also knew
288
00:13:42,935 --> 00:13:46,221
that Vivian's dad needed to die
289
00:13:46,305 --> 00:13:49,458
before she'd be able to pay him
back, isn't that right?
290
00:13:49,542 --> 00:13:51,326
Well, that's
what it sounded like.
291
00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:54,663
So, uh... which would you say
292
00:13:54,747 --> 00:13:56,131
is more likely...
293
00:13:56,215 --> 00:13:59,835
that, uh, Vivian,
who put her life on hold
294
00:13:59,919 --> 00:14:02,838
to take care of her father,
bludgeoned him to death
295
00:14:02,922 --> 00:14:05,340
with a fireplace tool, or that
Objection!
296
00:14:05,424 --> 00:14:07,109
The big strong man
Mr. Col�n.
297
00:14:07,193 --> 00:14:09,011
Broke into her house
with the intention
298
00:14:09,095 --> 00:14:10,345
of ending
Mr. Col�n.
299
00:14:10,429 --> 00:14:12,281
Mr. Cahill's life
to get his money back?
300
00:14:12,365 --> 00:14:13,715
Mr. Col�n.
301
00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:15,584
Sustained.
302
00:14:15,668 --> 00:14:17,601
The jury will disregard
that last question.
303
00:14:18,871 --> 00:14:20,289
No, they won't.
304
00:14:20,373 --> 00:14:22,190
Mr. Col�n,
305
00:14:22,274 --> 00:14:23,741
are you sure you're all right?
306
00:14:25,529 --> 00:14:26,615
Benny!
307
00:14:26,811 --> 00:14:28,229
What is it?
What's happening?
308
00:14:28,314 --> 00:14:32,383
Benny, can you hear me?
Someone call 911.
309
00:14:35,871 --> 00:14:38,629
Are you the gentleman
who came in with Mr. Col�n?
310
00:14:38,714 --> 00:14:40,503
Yes, I am, uh...
311
00:14:40,775 --> 00:14:42,274
How's he doing, is he okay?
312
00:14:42,454 --> 00:14:43,938
Are you family, sir?
313
00:14:44,023 --> 00:14:46,475
I'm his brother-in-law.
314
00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:48,510
So, is everything all right?
315
00:14:48,594 --> 00:14:49,911
Uh, do you have any idea
what's going on?
316
00:14:49,995 --> 00:14:51,747
His appendix burst.
317
00:14:51,831 --> 00:14:53,915
At the moment, we're in the
process of preparing him
318
00:14:53,999 --> 00:14:55,517
for emergency surgery.
319
00:14:55,601 --> 00:14:57,686
But he's gonna
be okay, right?
320
00:14:57,770 --> 00:14:59,121
Well, it's always better
when we catch
321
00:14:59,205 --> 00:15:00,789
these things before they burst.
322
00:15:00,873 --> 00:15:02,691
The surgery
and the recovery are always
323
00:15:02,775 --> 00:15:04,960
a little more involved
after they've ruptured.
324
00:15:05,044 --> 00:15:06,923
But still,
it's an appendix.
325
00:15:07,008 --> 00:15:09,097
You guys do this sort
of thing all the time.
326
00:15:09,181 --> 00:15:10,632
He should be out of here
in what,
327
00:15:10,716 --> 00:15:12,601
- a day, day and a half?
- Mm,
328
00:15:12,685 --> 00:15:15,303
not quite. Unfortunately,
once the appendix bursts,
329
00:15:15,387 --> 00:15:18,874
it releases all manner of
infectious agents into the body.
330
00:15:18,958 --> 00:15:21,843
He could be battling
potential infections for weeks.
331
00:15:21,927 --> 00:15:23,578
And, he needs to be monitored.
332
00:15:23,662 --> 00:15:25,814
Weeks?
333
00:15:25,898 --> 00:15:27,549
You gonna tell the court
about Benny?
334
00:15:27,633 --> 00:15:29,317
Kind of have to.
335
00:15:29,401 --> 00:15:30,852
Damn.
336
00:15:30,936 --> 00:15:33,155
That was an amazing jury.
337
00:15:33,239 --> 00:15:35,590
Well, there's no way the judge
holds on to that jury
338
00:15:35,674 --> 00:15:37,426
until Benny recovers.
339
00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:39,594
She'll probably
declare a mistrial
340
00:15:39,678 --> 00:15:41,196
and we'll have
to start all over again
341
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,999
when Benny's back in action.
342
00:15:47,286 --> 00:15:50,539
Do you think there
might be a chance that I...
343
00:15:50,623 --> 00:15:52,107
could cover for him?
344
00:15:52,191 --> 00:15:54,943
Cover in a murder trial?
345
00:15:55,027 --> 00:15:56,978
You haven't even
graduated law school.
346
00:15:57,062 --> 00:15:59,881
No offense, but... no.
347
00:15:59,965 --> 00:16:02,599
All right, just thought
I'd put it out there.
348
00:16:05,170 --> 00:16:07,697
You know, it says here
that Connecticut courts
349
00:16:07,782 --> 00:16:09,870
actually allow law student
interns much more latitude
350
00:16:09,955 --> 00:16:11,359
than they do in New York.
351
00:16:11,443 --> 00:16:14,095
Well, latitude is one thing,
but allowing a law student
352
00:16:14,179 --> 00:16:16,131
to sit first chair
on a murder case...
353
00:16:16,215 --> 00:16:19,734
seems like a reach to me.
354
00:16:19,818 --> 00:16:21,903
And whatever the case,
I'm sure they require
355
00:16:21,987 --> 00:16:24,506
students to be supervised
by a bar-certified attorney,
356
00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,342
and with Benny in the hospital,
who's that gonna be, hmm?
357
00:16:27,426 --> 00:16:28,810
I don't know,
is there any reason
358
00:16:28,894 --> 00:16:30,612
it couldn't
just be Benny himself?
359
00:16:30,696 --> 00:16:33,415
If that doctor is right,
and Benny's just gonna be
360
00:16:33,499 --> 00:16:35,417
lying around the hospital
for a couple of weeks,
361
00:16:35,501 --> 00:16:39,002
Chunk could text him,
call him, e-mail him.
362
00:16:40,439 --> 00:16:42,958
With the court's permission,
I'd like to take over
363
00:16:43,042 --> 00:16:45,794
for my colleague Benjamin Col�n,
who had a medical emergency
364
00:16:45,878 --> 00:16:47,371
yesterday and will
be hospitalized
365
00:16:47,456 --> 00:16:49,130
for the next few weeks.
366
00:16:49,214 --> 00:16:51,867
I have fully informed
Ms. Cahill of my status
367
00:16:51,951 --> 00:16:53,835
as a third-year law student
and she's consented
368
00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:54,903
to my representation.
369
00:16:54,987 --> 00:16:58,707
This is my application
to the court
370
00:16:58,791 --> 00:17:00,575
to appear as a student intern
371
00:17:00,659 --> 00:17:02,544
under Section 314.
372
00:17:02,628 --> 00:17:04,746
And that is a letter
from Benjamin Col�n,
373
00:17:04,830 --> 00:17:07,182
a member in good standing
of the Connecticut Bar for over
374
00:17:07,266 --> 00:17:10,719
20 years, saying that he would
supervise me throughout trial.
375
00:17:10,803 --> 00:17:13,088
Section 314 specifically states
376
00:17:13,172 --> 00:17:16,992
that the supervising attorney
must be present in court.
377
00:17:17,076 --> 00:17:18,760
How's that gonna work
378
00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:20,495
if Mr. Col�n's
in the hospital?
379
00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:23,298
Well, I'd make it my business
to check in with him regularly.
380
00:17:23,382 --> 00:17:24,332
And Dr. Bull,
381
00:17:24,416 --> 00:17:26,334
who's overseen
hundreds of trials,
382
00:17:26,418 --> 00:17:28,370
will be present
in court every day.
383
00:17:28,454 --> 00:17:29,504
Every minute, Your Honor.
384
00:17:29,588 --> 00:17:30,901
With all due respect,
385
00:17:30,986 --> 00:17:33,975
Your Honor,
Dr. Bull isn't a lawyer.
386
00:17:34,059 --> 00:17:36,878
And allowing a law student
to sit first chair
387
00:17:36,962 --> 00:17:39,414
at a murder trial without
a licensed attorney present
388
00:17:39,498 --> 00:17:41,216
practically guarantees
a successful
389
00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,852
"ineffective assistance
of counsel" appeal.
390
00:17:43,936 --> 00:17:46,087
I don't know if you've noticed,
Your Honor,
391
00:17:46,171 --> 00:17:48,857
but I'm not your typical
20-something law student.
392
00:17:48,941 --> 00:17:50,926
I've had quite a few
years of life experience
393
00:17:51,010 --> 00:17:54,029
under my belt before
I started law school.
394
00:17:54,113 --> 00:17:56,831
That experience included
working on more murder trials
395
00:17:56,915 --> 00:18:00,435
at TAC than most attorneys
handle in their lifetime.
396
00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:02,270
And once I started
law school,
397
00:18:02,354 --> 00:18:04,706
I first chaired a number of
complicated criminal trials
398
00:18:04,790 --> 00:18:06,141
for our legal
aid clinic.
399
00:18:06,225 --> 00:18:07,431
Your Honor, the rule
400
00:18:07,526 --> 00:18:08,476
is very clear...
401
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,878
The rule is in
place to protect
402
00:18:09,962 --> 00:18:11,546
the client's
best interests.
403
00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:15,083
Well, I fail to see how
Ms. Cahill's best interests
404
00:18:15,167 --> 00:18:16,885
are being protected
by a mistrial.
405
00:18:16,969 --> 00:18:18,153
Ms. Cahill has been
406
00:18:18,237 --> 00:18:19,888
in custody
during trial.
407
00:18:19,972 --> 00:18:22,457
A mistrial would simply
prolong the incarceration
408
00:18:22,541 --> 00:18:25,060
of an innocent woman,
until God knows
409
00:18:25,144 --> 00:18:27,162
when we can get ourselves
back on the trial calendar.
410
00:18:27,246 --> 00:18:29,130
I'm sure Your Honor
can make room on her calendar.
411
00:18:29,214 --> 00:18:30,565
Furthermore,
412
00:18:30,649 --> 00:18:33,301
if a defendant can represent
themselves pro se in court,
413
00:18:33,385 --> 00:18:35,770
shouldn't they be allowed
to choose a representative,
414
00:18:35,854 --> 00:18:39,074
themselves to... All right.
415
00:18:39,158 --> 00:18:40,375
All right.
416
00:18:40,459 --> 00:18:41,743
You're obviously able to craft
417
00:18:41,827 --> 00:18:43,727
a very persuasive
legal argument.
418
00:18:45,431 --> 00:18:48,216
I'm granting
a special dispensation
419
00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:50,500
that allows you to step in.
420
00:18:52,371 --> 00:18:55,156
But I better not come
to regret this decision,
421
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,026
or you will come
to regret this decision.
422
00:18:58,110 --> 00:18:59,928
Are we clear, Mr. Palmer?
423
00:19:00,012 --> 00:19:01,196
We are, Your Honor.
424
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,346
Thank you, Your Honor.
425
00:19:05,551 --> 00:19:07,102
Well, the good news is
426
00:19:07,186 --> 00:19:10,605
your temperature
is coming down.
427
00:19:10,689 --> 00:19:13,074
And your blood pressure
is getting close to normal.
428
00:19:13,158 --> 00:19:14,809
Ah, that's great.
429
00:19:14,893 --> 00:19:17,445
Um... do you think
there's any chance
430
00:19:17,529 --> 00:19:19,347
I might get discharged early?
431
00:19:19,431 --> 00:19:22,150
I-I'm in the middle
of a very important trial...
432
00:19:22,234 --> 00:19:23,618
First of all,
that's a doctor question.
433
00:19:23,702 --> 00:19:25,620
Second of all,
nobody said anything
434
00:19:25,704 --> 00:19:27,989
about anybody
getting discharged.
435
00:19:28,073 --> 00:19:30,358
Your body still needs
plenty of rest.
436
00:19:30,442 --> 00:19:31,593
Okay.
437
00:19:31,677 --> 00:19:34,129
Well, you are very persuasive.
438
00:19:34,213 --> 00:19:35,497
You win.
439
00:19:35,581 --> 00:19:37,232
Rest it is.
Mm-hmm.
440
00:19:37,316 --> 00:19:39,049
You say so.
441
00:19:52,928 --> 00:19:54,549
Benny, how you feeling?
442
00:19:54,633 --> 00:19:57,052
Oof.
I'm a little sore, but...
443
00:19:57,136 --> 00:19:59,854
all my major parts
seem to be working.
444
00:19:59,938 --> 00:20:02,090
So, how-how's the trial going?
445
00:20:02,174 --> 00:20:04,592
Was there a witness
on the stand? Who-who is it?
446
00:20:04,904 --> 00:20:07,228
How is Chunk doing?
Is he doing okay?
447
00:20:07,312 --> 00:20:09,564
The medical examiner's on
the stand and it's going fine.
448
00:20:09,648 --> 00:20:11,399
Don't start getting
stressed out over this.
449
00:20:11,483 --> 00:20:13,233
You are supposed
to be recuperating.
450
00:20:13,318 --> 00:20:15,733
Hey.
I'm also supposed to be
451
00:20:15,818 --> 00:20:17,672
supervising Chunk.
452
00:20:17,756 --> 00:20:19,674
I sent a letter
to the judge saying
453
00:20:19,758 --> 00:20:21,876
that I am personally
responsible for his work.
454
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,678
And I'm sure that Chunk
will check in with you
455
00:20:23,762 --> 00:20:26,560
as soon as he can,
but until he is on a recess,
456
00:20:26,645 --> 00:20:28,163
you should rest.
457
00:20:28,248 --> 00:20:29,296
Court is adjourned
458
00:20:29,381 --> 00:20:31,250
for a ten-minute recess.
459
00:20:35,374 --> 00:20:36,391
Bull?
460
00:20:36,475 --> 00:20:38,363
Sorry to intrude.
461
00:20:38,448 --> 00:20:39,947
Well, intrude away.
462
00:20:41,313 --> 00:20:43,598
Well, uh, I found a something
463
00:20:43,682 --> 00:20:45,233
that may be a nothing.
464
00:20:45,317 --> 00:20:46,801
But a something
that's a nothing is better
465
00:20:46,885 --> 00:20:48,436
than the absolutely nothing
we already have.
466
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,522
You got that right.
467
00:20:49,607 --> 00:20:51,172
And this something
that may be a nothing?
468
00:20:51,256 --> 00:20:52,959
Well, I spoke with a dog walker
who was working
469
00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:54,662
in the neighborhood
that morning and she says
470
00:20:54,746 --> 00:20:57,279
she saw a man running
down Cahill's street
471
00:20:57,364 --> 00:20:58,846
around the time of his death.
472
00:20:58,931 --> 00:21:00,248
Could be our killer.
473
00:21:00,332 --> 00:21:02,317
Or it could be a guy
out for a jog.
474
00:21:02,401 --> 00:21:04,319
Does he at least fit
the description of the man
475
00:21:04,403 --> 00:21:06,087
who came to Vivian's home?
476
00:21:06,171 --> 00:21:09,124
Or does he perhaps
look like Asher Ray?
477
00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:10,759
Well, it was cold,
478
00:21:10,843 --> 00:21:12,994
and he was wearing
a coat with a hood.
479
00:21:13,078 --> 00:21:14,596
So she didn't get
a very good look at his face,
480
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,564
but she is prepared
to testify that he was
481
00:21:16,648 --> 00:21:17,966
a big guy with dark hair
482
00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:19,567
in the right place
at the right time.
483
00:21:19,651 --> 00:21:22,670
Big guy, dark hair.
Right place, right time,
484
00:21:22,754 --> 00:21:23,938
walking down
the street.
485
00:21:24,022 --> 00:21:25,774
So that's definitely a nothing.
486
00:21:25,858 --> 00:21:27,275
I said a nothing
that may be a something.
487
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,816
That's a distinction
without a difference.
488
00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:31,278
You say tomato,
I say a place to start.
489
00:21:31,363 --> 00:21:34,182
She claims he was wearing
a blue parka
490
00:21:34,266 --> 00:21:35,895
with a red stripe down each arm.
491
00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,941
I'm gonna go through
all the security footage
492
00:21:38,026 --> 00:21:40,192
Taylor can hack into within
a quarter mile of the house,
493
00:21:40,276 --> 00:21:42,857
see if I can find him and
perhaps get a look at his face,
494
00:21:42,941 --> 00:21:45,426
or his car, something.
Okay, uh,
495
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:46,861
question from
the peanut gallery.
496
00:21:46,945 --> 00:21:48,296
This witness...
Did she happen to mention
497
00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:49,964
whether or not
she'd spoken to the police?
498
00:21:50,048 --> 00:21:52,500
No.
They never questioned her.
499
00:21:52,584 --> 00:21:54,084
Although I can't fault them.
500
00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:56,938
Bull's not wrong.
501
00:21:57,022 --> 00:21:59,641
All of this is really the very
definition of a long shot.
502
00:21:59,725 --> 00:22:03,311
Yeah, maybe it is,
maybe it isn't.
503
00:22:03,395 --> 00:22:06,014
Detective Jacobson,
during your investigation,
504
00:22:06,098 --> 00:22:08,349
did you have
an opportunity to speak
505
00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:10,718
to someone named Jami Schaefer?
506
00:22:10,802 --> 00:22:12,787
Not that I recall.
507
00:22:12,871 --> 00:22:16,024
Well, let me jog your memory.
508
00:22:16,108 --> 00:22:18,226
She's a dog walker
who was working
509
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:20,128
in Terrence Cahill's
neighborhood
510
00:22:20,212 --> 00:22:21,496
the morning of the murder.
511
00:22:21,580 --> 00:22:23,965
- Does that ring a bell?
- No.
512
00:22:24,049 --> 00:22:25,600
I'm sorry, I don't recall
any dog walker
513
00:22:25,684 --> 00:22:27,392
or anyone with that name.
514
00:22:28,153 --> 00:22:30,038
Really?
515
00:22:30,122 --> 00:22:32,740
Well, she was in the area.
516
00:22:32,824 --> 00:22:35,510
If there was something
or someone to see,
517
00:22:35,594 --> 00:22:37,345
she might well have seen it.
518
00:22:37,429 --> 00:22:39,147
An investigative lapse
519
00:22:39,231 --> 00:22:41,049
like this makes me
wonder how many other
520
00:22:41,133 --> 00:22:44,352
potential witnesses you missed.
Objection.
521
00:22:44,436 --> 00:22:46,354
Is counselor
gonna ask a question
522
00:22:46,438 --> 00:22:47,856
or just posture
for the jury?
523
00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:49,390
My apologies, Your Honor.
524
00:22:49,474 --> 00:22:53,127
I'm-I'm just trying to
understand how the detective can
525
00:22:53,211 --> 00:22:56,030
be so certain that he's arrested
the right person when he didn't
526
00:22:56,114 --> 00:22:57,699
speak to all of
the potential witnesses.
527
00:22:57,783 --> 00:22:59,734
Your Honor, he's still doing it.
528
00:22:59,818 --> 00:23:03,271
Not to mention citing
facts not in evidence
529
00:23:03,355 --> 00:23:05,106
and events for which
there is no foundation.
530
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:08,843
Our little Chunk playing dirty.
Makes me so proud.
531
00:23:08,927 --> 00:23:12,347
Objection sustained.
We know you're new at this,
532
00:23:12,431 --> 00:23:14,883
Counselor, but you're
supposed to ask the questions
533
00:23:14,967 --> 00:23:17,418
and he's supposed
to make the statements.
534
00:23:17,502 --> 00:23:18,902
So ask a question.
535
00:23:20,138 --> 00:23:22,657
Will do, Your Honor.
536
00:23:22,741 --> 00:23:26,394
Detective Jacobson,
would it surprise you to learn
537
00:23:26,478 --> 00:23:28,763
that Ms. Schaefer
said that she saw a man
538
00:23:28,847 --> 00:23:30,531
running down the street,
away from
539
00:23:30,615 --> 00:23:33,568
the Cahill house around
the time of his death?
540
00:23:33,652 --> 00:23:35,886
Yeah, that is certainly
new information.
541
00:23:35,971 --> 00:23:38,183
And would it surprise you
to learn that the witness
542
00:23:38,268 --> 00:23:41,588
described this man
as big and dark-haired?
543
00:23:41,827 --> 00:23:44,412
Just like Asher Ray,
the man who threatened
544
00:23:44,496 --> 00:23:46,447
Vivian Cahill?
545
00:23:46,531 --> 00:23:48,956
With all due respect,
546
00:23:49,041 --> 00:23:51,326
many men are big
and dark-haired,
547
00:23:51,605 --> 00:23:53,721
and millions of them
were walking around
548
00:23:53,805 --> 00:23:54,956
when Mr. Cahill died.
549
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,258
Some of them in his
very neighborhood,
550
00:23:57,342 --> 00:23:59,661
but that doesn't change my
point of view about this crime
551
00:23:59,745 --> 00:24:01,629
and who I believe committed it.
552
00:24:01,713 --> 00:24:03,131
But in light
of this new information,
553
00:24:03,215 --> 00:24:06,100
will you at least
concede the possibility
554
00:24:06,184 --> 00:24:09,437
that Asher Ray killed
Terrence Cahill
555
00:24:09,521 --> 00:24:12,073
so that my client could
come into her inheritance
556
00:24:12,157 --> 00:24:13,942
and therefore have the money
to pay him back?
557
00:24:14,026 --> 00:24:15,677
No, I would not.
558
00:24:15,761 --> 00:24:18,579
Huh. What's this detective
so smug about?
559
00:24:18,663 --> 00:24:20,448
What does he know
that we don't know?
560
00:24:20,532 --> 00:24:22,750
Don't step in it, Chunk.
561
00:24:22,834 --> 00:24:24,986
So a man matching
Asher Ray's description
562
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:28,056
is seen near the crime scene
around the time of his death
563
00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:30,291
and you won't concede
that it's possible
564
00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,560
that he's the killer?
565
00:24:32,644 --> 00:24:35,763
That's what I said.
In fact I'll go so far to say
566
00:24:35,847 --> 00:24:37,832
that it's impossible
for Asher Ray to be the killer.
567
00:24:37,916 --> 00:24:41,336
Really?
Impossible?
568
00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:42,937
How is that?
569
00:24:43,021 --> 00:24:44,939
Because Asher Ray died
570
00:24:45,023 --> 00:24:47,342
two days before
Terrence Cahill was murdered.
571
00:24:47,426 --> 00:24:49,944
His body was fished
out of the Hudson day before yesterday
572
00:24:50,028 --> 00:24:53,047
when a trawler was breaking up
ice on the water.
573
00:24:53,131 --> 00:24:55,883
The coroner said he'd been dead
at least 72 hours at that point,
574
00:24:55,968 --> 00:24:58,193
so I can assure you that Asher
Ray couldn't have killed him
575
00:24:58,277 --> 00:25:01,593
unless his ghost rose up
out of the water and did it.
576
00:25:02,773 --> 00:25:07,327
Wow, Chunk, that's gonna be
tough to get off your shoes.
577
00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:12,966
Asher Ray's dead?
578
00:25:13,051 --> 00:25:15,782
How did we not know
he was dead?
579
00:25:15,867 --> 00:25:18,743
I'm guessing the A.D.A.
asked the medical examiner
580
00:25:18,828 --> 00:25:21,439
to hold off on signing
Ray's death certificate.
581
00:25:21,681 --> 00:25:24,597
She knew we were gonna use Ray
to create reasonable doubt
582
00:25:24,682 --> 00:25:26,641
and she wanted
to discredit us in court.
583
00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:28,119
It's pretty smart, actually.
584
00:25:28,204 --> 00:25:31,563
Yeah, and now our best
alternative suspect is gone.
585
00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:34,110
The prosecution has rested,
we're up,
586
00:25:34,195 --> 00:25:35,808
and all Chunk has to work with
587
00:25:35,893 --> 00:25:38,287
is a man in a parka
who could have been out jogging.
588
00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:44,610
I don't mean to be rude,
589
00:25:44,766 --> 00:25:47,116
but how can any of this
make you happy?
590
00:25:47,509 --> 00:25:49,977
I'm not crazy.
591
00:25:50,062 --> 00:25:53,892
I-I mean, I know that
this is bad for us, but...
592
00:25:54,329 --> 00:25:56,930
I guess I'm just relieved
593
00:25:57,062 --> 00:25:59,524
Ray didn't kill my father.
594
00:26:00,241 --> 00:26:01,982
It means
595
00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,381
I'm not responsible
for his death.
596
00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:08,668
There it is.
597
00:26:08,894 --> 00:26:11,980
When one door closes,
another one opens.
598
00:26:12,064 --> 00:26:13,615
What do you mean?
599
00:26:13,699 --> 00:26:17,252
With your permission,
I want to put you on the stand.
600
00:26:17,336 --> 00:26:20,713
I want the jury to see exactly
what you just showed us.
601
00:26:22,474 --> 00:26:24,692
You loved your father.
602
00:26:25,277 --> 00:26:28,997
And the very thought that you
might have caused him harm
603
00:26:29,322 --> 00:26:31,800
very nearly
brought you to tears.
604
00:26:31,884 --> 00:26:34,237
Forget about you actually
having killed him yourself.
605
00:26:34,322 --> 00:26:36,971
Yeah, I think you might be
on to something there, Chunk.
606
00:26:37,502 --> 00:26:38,773
What do you think?
607
00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:40,393
Ms. Cahill,
608
00:26:40,478 --> 00:26:43,677
over the years,
did you have the occasion
609
00:26:43,762 --> 00:26:46,981
to ask your father for money
when you got in trouble?
610
00:26:47,065 --> 00:26:49,818
Oh, yes.
A number of times.
611
00:26:49,902 --> 00:26:51,820
And he helped
612
00:26:51,904 --> 00:26:53,655
dig me out
of some pretty big holes.
613
00:26:53,739 --> 00:26:54,908
What about
this last time?
614
00:26:54,993 --> 00:26:56,924
Did you ask your father
for money
615
00:26:57,009 --> 00:26:58,993
to help pay back Asher Ray?
616
00:26:59,077 --> 00:27:00,651
Of course.
617
00:27:01,113 --> 00:27:04,291
But this time
he said no.
618
00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:07,736
He said that he was done
bailing me out,
619
00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:11,239
that before he died
620
00:27:11,323 --> 00:27:14,408
he needed to teach me
to stand on my own.
621
00:27:14,998 --> 00:27:18,940
And were you angry
when he refused to help you?
622
00:27:20,755 --> 00:27:22,408
No.
623
00:27:23,086 --> 00:27:24,870
Not really.
624
00:27:25,354 --> 00:27:26,994
He was right.
625
00:27:27,149 --> 00:27:28,955
And I knew he was right.
626
00:27:30,441 --> 00:27:31,859
I was scared,
627
00:27:31,944 --> 00:27:34,674
but I wasn't mad at him.
628
00:27:37,237 --> 00:27:39,893
I was mad at myself.
629
00:27:40,886 --> 00:27:43,271
Mad for asking a sick, old man
630
00:27:43,355 --> 00:27:45,112
to help me out.
631
00:27:45,791 --> 00:27:47,424
Again.
632
00:27:48,427 --> 00:27:50,612
Now, we've heard testimony
that your father
633
00:27:50,696 --> 00:27:52,869
was verbally abusive
towards you.
634
00:27:53,226 --> 00:27:55,315
Would you say
that's a fair statement?
635
00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:57,196
Yeah, well,
636
00:27:57,336 --> 00:28:00,255
my dad said some pretty awful
things to me.
637
00:28:00,339 --> 00:28:02,557
So if he was
so awful to you,
638
00:28:02,854 --> 00:28:04,859
why did you move home
to help care for him
639
00:28:04,943 --> 00:28:06,743
after his stroke?
640
00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:09,779
Because he was my dad.
641
00:28:13,369 --> 00:28:15,503
Tell me we flipped somebody.
642
00:28:16,033 --> 00:28:17,405
I wish I could.
643
00:28:17,489 --> 00:28:19,774
Well, if we lose this,
644
00:28:19,858 --> 00:28:21,409
it won't be Chunk's fault.
645
00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:23,144
The guy is good.
646
00:28:23,228 --> 00:28:25,547
He's no Benny yet, but...
647
00:28:25,631 --> 00:28:27,030
the guy's good.
648
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:30,318
- You there, Benny?
- I'm here.
649
00:28:30,402 --> 00:28:32,320
Dressed in my finest jammies,
650
00:28:32,404 --> 00:28:34,222
anxious to hear the latest.
651
00:28:34,306 --> 00:28:36,057
So let's talk
about parka guy.
652
00:28:36,141 --> 00:28:37,892
Oh, I like it.
He's got a name.
653
00:28:37,976 --> 00:28:40,595
Okay, so parka guy
was caught on camera
654
00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:42,864
buying a carton of cigarettes
in a convenience store
655
00:28:42,948 --> 00:28:45,333
about a block away
from the Cahill home,
656
00:28:45,417 --> 00:28:47,101
20 minutes before the murder.
657
00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:48,698
I sweet-talked
the store manager,
658
00:28:48,782 --> 00:28:50,714
and he pulled the day's
credit and debit card receipts
659
00:28:50,798 --> 00:28:53,790
and I was able to get a name.
Daniel Zabinski.
660
00:28:54,993 --> 00:28:56,978
18. Lives in Queens.
661
00:28:57,062 --> 00:28:59,347
That'd be him. Uh,
goes to high school in Queens,
662
00:28:59,431 --> 00:29:00,849
works in a coffee shop
in Queens.
663
00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:03,751
So I guess we're safe to assume
he didn't just go for a jog
664
00:29:03,835 --> 00:29:06,487
in Greenwich, which is
at least an hour and 20 away
665
00:29:06,571 --> 00:29:08,091
- via public transit.
- Exactly.
666
00:29:08,252 --> 00:29:10,624
The problem is I haven't been
able to find any connection
667
00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:13,228
between this Zabinski kid
and Terrence Cahill.
668
00:29:13,312 --> 00:29:14,979
Zabinski.
Zabinski.
669
00:29:15,157 --> 00:29:17,643
Something about
that name... Yes.
670
00:29:17,783 --> 00:29:19,934
Celeste Zabinski.
671
00:29:20,018 --> 00:29:21,369
Who's Celeste Zabinski?
672
00:29:21,453 --> 00:29:24,105
Celeste Zabinski is
a 42-year-old woman who,
673
00:29:24,189 --> 00:29:26,274
up until she was terminated
seven months ago,
674
00:29:26,358 --> 00:29:28,076
worked for
Vivian's father,
675
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,213
- Terrence Cahill.
- Ah.
676
00:29:30,356 --> 00:29:31,912
The plot thickens.
677
00:29:31,997 --> 00:29:33,886
When we found out Ray was dead
678
00:29:33,971 --> 00:29:36,317
I started looking into
possible disgruntled employees
679
00:29:36,401 --> 00:29:38,219
who worked at Terrence's
accounting firm.
680
00:29:38,303 --> 00:29:40,776
And do you, perchance, have
an address for this Celeste?
681
00:29:40,861 --> 00:29:42,112
Same as Daniel's.
682
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:45,126
- So I'm guessing she's his
mother. - Oops.
683
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:47,277
Turns out they got evicted
last month.
684
00:29:48,914 --> 00:29:51,499
That's not an oops.
I can run with that.
685
00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:54,969
Maybe Daniel killed Terrence
because he fired his mother
686
00:29:55,053 --> 00:29:56,553
and they wound up on the street.
687
00:29:58,023 --> 00:29:59,841
Well, are we sure
Terrence was even around
688
00:29:59,925 --> 00:30:01,776
when this Zabinski woman
was fired?
689
00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:04,078
He hasn't been running the firm
since he had his stroke.
690
00:30:04,162 --> 00:30:06,080
Well,
according to my research, she was fired
691
00:30:06,164 --> 00:30:07,982
seven months ago and
Terrence didn't even have
692
00:30:08,066 --> 00:30:10,300
his first stroke until
six months ago. So, yeah,
693
00:30:10,385 --> 00:30:11,900
it seems fairly
certain that Terrence
694
00:30:11,985 --> 00:30:13,655
was around when they
pulled the trigger on Celeste.
695
00:30:13,739 --> 00:30:16,524
But, again, to me, the
really telling thing is that
696
00:30:16,608 --> 00:30:18,459
Celeste and her
son got evicted
697
00:30:18,543 --> 00:30:20,194
just a couple of days
before the murder.
698
00:30:20,278 --> 00:30:22,664
And here's another
tidbit worth sharing:
699
00:30:22,748 --> 00:30:24,265
according to his
search history,
700
00:30:24,349 --> 00:30:27,201
Daniel started googling Terrence
around that same time.
701
00:30:27,285 --> 00:30:29,018
Any chance you obtained
702
00:30:29,103 --> 00:30:31,187
that search history
in a legal manner?
703
00:30:32,087 --> 00:30:34,021
I plead the Fifth.
704
00:30:34,526 --> 00:30:36,844
So none of this
is admissible in court?
705
00:30:36,928 --> 00:30:38,780
We'll find a way to get it in.
706
00:30:38,864 --> 00:30:42,183
The point is we suddenly
have another credible suspect
707
00:30:42,267 --> 00:30:44,585
and a very credible motive.
708
00:30:44,669 --> 00:30:46,202
Nice work, you two.
709
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:49,056
We might actually
be back in the game.
710
00:30:49,141 --> 00:30:50,224
Speaking of which,
711
00:30:50,308 --> 00:30:52,093
there's a shot
I might be out of here
712
00:30:52,177 --> 00:30:53,861
by the end of the day tomorrow.
713
00:30:53,945 --> 00:30:56,898
If you think it might be helpful
for me to step in,
714
00:30:56,982 --> 00:30:59,049
maybe put together
a closing argument.
715
00:31:01,153 --> 00:31:03,037
Hey, that's great
to hear, Benny.
716
00:31:03,121 --> 00:31:04,872
Let us know
717
00:31:04,956 --> 00:31:07,475
when and if that happens.
718
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,811
In the meantime, we
are due back in court
719
00:31:09,895 --> 00:31:11,045
tomorrow right
after lunch.
720
00:31:11,129 --> 00:31:12,880
Danny, Taylor,
721
00:31:12,964 --> 00:31:15,850
you guys continue to drill down
on this tomorrow morning.
722
00:31:15,934 --> 00:31:17,318
Of course.
Will do.
723
00:31:17,402 --> 00:31:18,820
Nice work, everybody.
724
00:31:18,904 --> 00:31:21,848
Talk tomorrow, Benny.
I got to get home to the girls.
725
00:31:21,982 --> 00:31:24,315
Now
let's get out of here.
726
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Good morning.
From your lips.
727
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:44,716
Can I ask you
a question? The answer's no.
728
00:31:44,926 --> 00:31:46,147
But you haven't heard
my question yet.
729
00:31:46,231 --> 00:31:48,606
What, you want to know if
I'm gonna yank you off the case
730
00:31:48,724 --> 00:31:51,075
and let Benny finish it up?
And?
731
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,075
And, as I said, as of now,
the answer's no.
732
00:31:55,073 --> 00:31:57,941
- Thanks. I appreciate it.
- Well, I'm not doing it for you.
733
00:31:58,026 --> 00:31:59,503
I have a professional
responsibility
734
00:31:59,588 --> 00:32:00,886
to do what's best for my client,
735
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:03,099
and right now
what's best is you.
736
00:32:03,184 --> 00:32:04,022
You know more,
737
00:32:04,106 --> 00:32:06,695
and you have a deeper
understanding than Benny.
738
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:07,897
Plus...
739
00:32:08,231 --> 00:32:10,262
you have more to lose
if we don't prevail, and...
740
00:32:10,346 --> 00:32:11,963
more to gain if we do.
741
00:32:12,047 --> 00:32:14,132
And if any of that
should change...
742
00:32:14,216 --> 00:32:15,634
It won't.
743
00:32:15,718 --> 00:32:17,217
Excellent.
744
00:32:21,218 --> 00:32:22,584
We have a problem.
745
00:32:23,464 --> 00:32:25,240
What? With our
new suspect?
746
00:32:25,325 --> 00:32:26,342
Our new motive?
747
00:32:26,427 --> 00:32:27,579
Kinda sorta both.
748
00:32:27,663 --> 00:32:30,582
Celeste Zabinski,
Daniel Zabinski's mother...
749
00:32:30,666 --> 00:32:34,152
She was never fired
from Terrence Cahill's firm.
750
00:32:34,236 --> 00:32:35,620
What, she quit?
751
00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:37,189
No, it's worse than that.
752
00:32:37,273 --> 00:32:38,890
She never actually worked
753
00:32:38,974 --> 00:32:41,026
at Terrence Cahill's
accounting firm.
754
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:43,862
Yesterday you told us she was
on the payroll for 18 years.
755
00:32:43,946 --> 00:32:45,163
She was on the payroll.
756
00:32:45,247 --> 00:32:46,565
But this morning I found out
757
00:32:46,649 --> 00:32:48,767
that nobody at that firm
has ever heard of her.
758
00:32:48,851 --> 00:32:50,001
Not Terrence's number two,
759
00:32:50,085 --> 00:32:51,770
who's been running it
since his stroke.
760
00:32:51,854 --> 00:32:54,106
Not the head of HR.
No one.
761
00:32:54,190 --> 00:32:55,807
The woman is a ghost.
762
00:32:55,891 --> 00:32:58,944
Celeste was on the payroll
for 18 years?
763
00:32:59,028 --> 00:33:02,214
And how old is her son,
our suspect, Daniel?
764
00:33:02,298 --> 00:33:04,549
18 years old.
765
00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:05,917
Hmm.
766
00:33:06,132 --> 00:33:08,084
And no one
finds that interesting?
767
00:33:08,353 --> 00:33:09,904
Have you ever heard
768
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:12,023
of Celeste Zabinski?
769
00:33:12,107 --> 00:33:13,425
No. Never.
770
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:14,693
Who is she?
771
00:33:14,855 --> 00:33:16,488
What about Daniel Zabinski?
772
00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,912
No.
Sorry, who are these people
773
00:33:19,997 --> 00:33:21,366
and what do they
have to do with me?
774
00:33:21,450 --> 00:33:24,027
The short version is
we think we may have found
775
00:33:24,112 --> 00:33:26,012
the person
who killed your father.
776
00:33:27,823 --> 00:33:29,541
Which one?
777
00:33:29,625 --> 00:33:32,277
The man or the woman?
778
00:33:32,361 --> 00:33:36,047
And... why would one of them
want to kill my dad?
779
00:33:36,131 --> 00:33:38,483
We're talking about Daniel.
780
00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:40,318
And I...
781
00:33:40,402 --> 00:33:44,189
strongly suspect
that your father, Terrence...
782
00:33:44,273 --> 00:33:46,440
was his father, too.
783
00:33:48,878 --> 00:33:50,662
This is Daniel.
784
00:33:50,746 --> 00:33:53,031
Oh, my God.
785
00:33:53,115 --> 00:33:55,867
Yeah, he looks just like my dad
at that age.
786
00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:58,236
One of my investigators
discovered
787
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,572
that your father had been
paying Daniel's mother
788
00:34:00,656 --> 00:34:02,908
through his company
for the last 18 years,
789
00:34:02,992 --> 00:34:04,743
and those payments stopped
790
00:34:04,827 --> 00:34:06,445
on Daniel's 18th birthday.
791
00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:08,826
Of course, we don't have
any definitive proof
792
00:34:08,911 --> 00:34:10,582
that Terrence
is Daniel's father.
793
00:34:10,861 --> 00:34:13,709
There's no father listed
on Daniel's birth certificate.
794
00:34:13,794 --> 00:34:15,238
We were hoping maybe
there was something
795
00:34:15,322 --> 00:34:18,223
you could remember
that could help us.
796
00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:20,392
Uh, I-I don't know.
797
00:34:20,476 --> 00:34:21,927
I just...
798
00:34:22,331 --> 00:34:24,798
I can't believe this.
799
00:34:26,917 --> 00:34:28,969
You said he was 18?
800
00:34:29,054 --> 00:34:30,253
Mm.
801
00:34:31,248 --> 00:34:32,499
I do remember my parents
802
00:34:32,584 --> 00:34:34,568
going through a
really rough patch.
803
00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:36,675
I was about 14, I think.
804
00:34:36,759 --> 00:34:39,077
That would have been
about 18 years ago.
805
00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:41,795
They were fighting
all the time.
806
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,853
They even stopped
sleeping in the same bed.
807
00:34:45,326 --> 00:34:48,279
Maybe my mom found out.
808
00:34:48,364 --> 00:34:49,988
I guess we'll never know.
809
00:34:50,513 --> 00:34:52,717
You were never aware
of him disappearing,
810
00:34:52,802 --> 00:34:55,427
maybe to go spend
some time with Daniel?
811
00:34:55,511 --> 00:34:57,696
Or... Daniel's mother?
812
00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:59,364
No.
813
00:34:59,448 --> 00:35:01,967
I truly doubt my dad
was in this kid's life
814
00:35:02,051 --> 00:35:04,169
beyond paying his mom.
815
00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:08,155
And if he was, I certainly
wasn't aware of it.
816
00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:11,843
I guess we could subpoena
Daniel, make him testify.
817
00:35:11,927 --> 00:35:14,240
But everything that we have
on him is circumstantial.
818
00:35:14,325 --> 00:35:15,818
Where did Danny
say he works?
819
00:35:15,903 --> 00:35:17,896
Coffee shop in Queens.
Why, what are you thinking?
820
00:35:17,981 --> 00:35:20,326
I'm thinking maybe Danny should
go get herself a cappuccino
821
00:35:20,411 --> 00:35:23,312
and we should ask the judge
for a two-day continuance.
822
00:35:27,309 --> 00:35:28,693
No Benny?
823
00:35:28,777 --> 00:35:30,996
No. He's home.
824
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,865
But, uh, he's not feeling 100%.
825
00:35:33,949 --> 00:35:36,283
Besides, I think
he knows you got this.
826
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,839
He did want me
to give you a message, though.
827
00:35:40,923 --> 00:35:43,475
He wanted me to tell you
828
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:47,145
don't make the mistake
of crucifying this witness.
829
00:35:47,229 --> 00:35:49,848
You show some compassion,
830
00:35:49,932 --> 00:35:52,484
you might just get some back.
831
00:35:52,568 --> 00:35:54,134
Got it.
832
00:35:54,927 --> 00:35:56,221
Your Honor, the defense calls
833
00:35:56,311 --> 00:35:58,711
Daniel Zabinski to the stand.
834
00:36:10,953 --> 00:36:12,743
Mr. Zabinski...
835
00:36:12,828 --> 00:36:14,401
this security video footage
836
00:36:14,486 --> 00:36:17,774
was taken January 17
at 8:43 a.m.
837
00:36:17,859 --> 00:36:20,445
in a Greenwich, Connecticut,
convenience store
838
00:36:20,529 --> 00:36:22,681
20 minutes before
Terrence Cahill was killed
839
00:36:22,765 --> 00:36:24,665
a few blocks away.
840
00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:29,354
That's you.
841
00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:30,822
Isn't it, Mr. Zabinski?
842
00:36:30,906 --> 00:36:32,339
Buying cigarettes?
843
00:36:34,011 --> 00:36:35,444
Before you answer,
you should know
844
00:36:35,529 --> 00:36:37,028
that we have your signature
845
00:36:37,112 --> 00:36:39,030
on the debit card
transaction record
846
00:36:39,114 --> 00:36:40,914
that you signed
when you purchased.
847
00:36:44,053 --> 00:36:45,303
Okay.
848
00:36:45,387 --> 00:36:46,753
Okay?
849
00:36:47,923 --> 00:36:51,076
Does okay mean yes
or does okay mean no?
850
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,627
Okay, yes, I guess that's me.
851
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,549
And can you tell the jury
where you live?
852
00:36:57,633 --> 00:37:00,485
With my mother
at my aunt's apartment
853
00:37:00,569 --> 00:37:03,088
in Forest Hills.
Queens.
854
00:37:03,172 --> 00:37:05,523
And do you know how far
Greenwich, Connecticut, is
855
00:37:05,607 --> 00:37:07,058
from where you live?
856
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:10,261
You mean in miles?
No.
857
00:37:10,345 --> 00:37:13,164
Well, I mean,
can you give the jury an idea
858
00:37:13,248 --> 00:37:16,401
of how long it took you
to get from place to another?
859
00:37:16,485 --> 00:37:18,103
I don't know.
860
00:37:18,187 --> 00:37:19,537
Hour, 15,
861
00:37:19,621 --> 00:37:20,939
hour and a half.
862
00:37:21,023 --> 00:37:24,776
I'd subway to Grand Central,
train to Greenwich.
863
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:26,845
And what brought you
to Greenwich that day?
864
00:37:26,929 --> 00:37:28,695
A job interview.
865
00:37:29,732 --> 00:37:31,416
Really?
A job interview?
866
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:32,851
That's very helpful.
867
00:37:32,935 --> 00:37:34,619
Well, can you tell us the name
868
00:37:34,703 --> 00:37:37,422
of the company and the person
that you interviewed with?
869
00:37:37,506 --> 00:37:38,957
Let me remind you
870
00:37:39,041 --> 00:37:41,141
one more time
that you're under oath.
871
00:37:46,949 --> 00:37:49,501
Daniel, have you ever
been in court before?
872
00:37:49,594 --> 00:37:50,678
No.
873
00:37:50,763 --> 00:37:51,770
Okay.
874
00:37:51,854 --> 00:37:53,854
Do you know what perjury is?
875
00:37:54,990 --> 00:37:56,808
It's when you
say something in court
876
00:37:56,892 --> 00:37:58,576
that isn't true.
877
00:37:59,011 --> 00:38:02,413
Do you know what happens
to a person who commits perjury?
878
00:38:03,398 --> 00:38:04,698
They go to jail.
879
00:38:05,934 --> 00:38:07,052
So...
880
00:38:07,136 --> 00:38:08,920
now that you know the rules,
881
00:38:09,004 --> 00:38:11,956
why don't we start over again.
882
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,941
What brought you
to Greenwich that day?
883
00:38:16,879 --> 00:38:18,863
I needed to speak to someone.
884
00:38:18,947 --> 00:38:21,348
And was that someone
your father?
885
00:38:22,885 --> 00:38:24,202
I don't know.
886
00:38:24,286 --> 00:38:26,219
He might have been.
887
00:38:27,513 --> 00:38:29,168
My mother told me he was.
888
00:38:29,253 --> 00:38:30,403
And was that
man's name
889
00:38:30,488 --> 00:38:32,388
Terrence Cahill?
890
00:38:34,229 --> 00:38:35,313
Yes.
891
00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:38,490
You seeing any action yet?
892
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:41,562
Not yet.
Well, don't touch that dial.
893
00:38:41,661 --> 00:38:44,434
Now I've got
another video to show you.
894
00:38:44,911 --> 00:38:46,818
This was taken the
night before last
895
00:38:46,903 --> 00:38:48,493
at the coffee shop
that you work at.
896
00:38:48,577 --> 00:38:50,977
That's you right there,
isn't it, Daniel?
897
00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:58,169
Yes.
898
00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:00,739
Would it surprise you to learn
that your fingerprints,
899
00:39:00,823 --> 00:39:04,028
which were recovered
from that coffee mug,
900
00:39:04,255 --> 00:39:06,030
matched the partial fingerprints
which were recovered
901
00:39:06,114 --> 00:39:07,378
from the fireplace poker
902
00:39:07,462 --> 00:39:09,739
used to kill Terrence Cahill?
903
00:39:13,979 --> 00:39:17,447
Why don't you tell the jury
what really happened, Daniel.
904
00:39:23,961 --> 00:39:26,194
I just wanted to talk to him.
905
00:39:27,875 --> 00:39:30,910
I just wanted to ask him to give
my mom a little bit more money.
906
00:39:32,219 --> 00:39:34,049
She told me he'd been
giving us money for years
907
00:39:34,133 --> 00:39:36,040
but all of a sudden he stopped.
908
00:39:36,367 --> 00:39:39,702
She told me where he lived,
so I just... went there.
909
00:39:40,495 --> 00:39:42,495
And when I saw
the house...
910
00:39:43,532 --> 00:39:45,650
I mean, it's this...
911
00:39:45,734 --> 00:39:48,235
big... house.
912
00:39:50,472 --> 00:39:53,191
Anyway, I rang the bell,
but no one answered.
913
00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:56,009
So then I just went around back.
914
00:39:57,479 --> 00:39:59,130
And there he was.
915
00:39:59,214 --> 00:40:01,766
Just sitting there.
916
00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:04,435
So I just asked him.
917
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,505
Asked him
if he cared about me.
918
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:10,275
About my mom.
919
00:40:10,359 --> 00:40:13,278
Mostly about her,
because she struggles.
920
00:40:13,362 --> 00:40:14,846
She cries a lot.
921
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:17,315
Spends the day in bed
smoking cigarettes.
922
00:40:17,399 --> 00:40:19,450
She's got bad depression.
923
00:40:19,548 --> 00:40:21,466
But a lot of the time
she has to take her meds.
924
00:40:21,551 --> 00:40:23,752
Either she forgets
or we can't afford them.
925
00:40:26,942 --> 00:40:28,560
I just went there
to speak to him.
926
00:40:28,644 --> 00:40:30,395
I didn't want
anything else from him.
927
00:40:30,479 --> 00:40:32,479
I didn't want him to be my dad
or anything.
928
00:40:34,883 --> 00:40:36,801
And did he give you any money?
929
00:40:36,885 --> 00:40:39,771
Did he say he would give you
or your mom some money?
930
00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:41,172
No.
931
00:40:41,256 --> 00:40:43,924
And is that why you hit him
with that fireplace poker?
932
00:40:54,403 --> 00:40:57,555
He said something, right?
933
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,724
We've heard he
can be a very,
934
00:40:59,808 --> 00:41:01,241
very cruel man.
935
00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:07,414
He said my mom
was a lazy freeloader.
936
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:11,002
He said she was a crazy whore.
937
00:41:11,086 --> 00:41:12,904
Said I was nothing
but her bastard child,
938
00:41:12,988 --> 00:41:15,039
and if I didn't leave
he would call the police
939
00:41:15,123 --> 00:41:16,875
and put me away for life.
940
00:41:16,959 --> 00:41:19,077
So you grabbed
the fireplace poker?
941
00:41:19,161 --> 00:41:21,813
No.
He did.
942
00:41:22,622 --> 00:41:24,280
He swung it at me,
but he wasn't very strong,
943
00:41:24,364 --> 00:41:25,917
so I just snatched it away
from him.
944
00:41:26,419 --> 00:41:27,999
And then he started
calling my mother and me
945
00:41:28,083 --> 00:41:29,473
every name in the book.
946
00:41:29,651 --> 00:41:31,651
Cursing, screaming.
947
00:41:33,675 --> 00:41:35,894
So I hit him.
948
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:37,689
Just once.
949
00:41:40,648 --> 00:41:42,915
Then I just ran away.
950
00:41:48,148 --> 00:41:50,849
I have no more questions
for this witness.
951
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:06,537
Nice work, Mr. Palmer.
952
00:42:06,622 --> 00:42:08,240
Thank you, thank
you, Mr. Col�n.
953
00:42:08,325 --> 00:42:09,670
Make no mistake,
954
00:42:09,755 --> 00:42:11,629
your words of wisdom
this morning really helped.
955
00:42:11,713 --> 00:42:13,506
What words of wisdom?
956
00:42:13,591 --> 00:42:15,266
Yes, indeed.
957
00:42:15,350 --> 00:42:17,683
Witness stand confession
in your first murder trial.
958
00:42:17,768 --> 00:42:19,037
That's gonna be tough to top.
959
00:42:19,121 --> 00:42:22,037
Ha. I'm just getting started.
What's my next case, boss?
960
00:42:22,122 --> 00:42:24,279
Next case?
Slow down there, Perry Mason.
961
00:42:24,364 --> 00:42:26,744
I only came into this life
with one appendix,
962
00:42:26,828 --> 00:42:27,946
and it's gone now.
963
00:42:28,030 --> 00:42:29,247
Back to the bullpen.
964
00:42:29,331 --> 00:42:30,982
I don't know.
You sound congested.
965
00:42:31,276 --> 00:42:33,431
Doesn't he sound
congested to you?
965
00:42:34,305 --> 00:42:40,869
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