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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:49,000 A lot of people don't really fully understand immigrants, 2 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:53,060 especially when they come from poor countries, that they're kind of burdened 3 00:00:53,060 --> 00:00:53,979 with shame. 4 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:59,060 And sometimes that music that comes with those cultures, People want to get away 5 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:01,900 from me because they feel ashamed. To me, it's the saddest thing in the world 6 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,200 because that's your connection to your strength. 7 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Your family is your strength. 8 00:01:18,090 --> 00:01:20,830 Your father is half Mexican. 9 00:01:21,530 --> 00:01:23,470 My father is sort of whole Mexican. 10 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:27,870 Well, excuse me. How far back in your family tree do you have to go before you 11 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:30,490 hear the Spanish sound in your name? 12 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:37,490 Well, you can go back one generation on either side. I mean, Spain is not 13 00:01:37,490 --> 00:01:38,490 Mexican either. 14 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:45,070 The point we're making is that these are songs of Linda Ronstadt's childhood. 15 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:49,410 These aren't just... songs that you didn't put on a Mexican costume. 16 00:01:49,870 --> 00:01:52,070 Oh, no, no, no, no. These are your family songs. 17 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:57,590 These are songs that I heard when I was growing up and that we sang as a family. 18 00:01:57,690 --> 00:01:59,730 It was a family project altogether, this record. 19 00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:01,110 Take it away, guys. 20 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:22,060 My older brother had seen her on Channel 9. He was like, oh, my God, you've got 21 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:22,959 to see this lady. 22 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,940 So I go and I see her, and I was just like, I didn't know how to get her music 23 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:31,080 or her CDs or anything, so I would call Channel 9, and I would just be listening 24 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,820 to her songs, because when you call, they play the music. It was just very 25 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:36,100 inspiring. It brought me a lot of hope. 26 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,100 In the 80s, with the Canciones de Mi Padre, in the Mexican community, 27 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:58,440 And the fact that she invested her talent into our music, our music, 28 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:02,600 was an enormous source of pride for people. 29 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,700 During the time I had my Los Canciones show, I was down by the Palace of Fine 30 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,400 Arts. And I saw these kids playing and dancing. 31 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,300 And I could tell by the way they were dancing, they were really authentic. 32 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,680 So I got into a conversation with Eugene. 33 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:24,000 And I said, yeah, you guys are really good. 34 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,040 And he said, well, we've been trying to raise enough money to take a trip to 35 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,340 Mexico because I want the kids to learn what it is to be a Mexican, you know, so 36 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:34,080 they can feel proud of it. I could see the value of a trip like that, to go 37 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,160 down for musical purposes or musical exchange. 38 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,300 And I said, oh, I'll help you with the money to go to Mexico. 39 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,720 So I added an extra concert into my tour to help pay for their trip to Mexico. 40 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:50,700 And that's how we started our friendship. 41 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:57,480 Why don't we do San Lorenzo? 42 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,840 When I went to the center to see how the kids were trained, I was so impressed by 43 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,300 how much they were validated and how much they were respected and how much 44 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:09,300 dignity they were given. 45 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:20,149 I thought the Simpsons were really special. 46 00:04:20,670 --> 00:04:22,970 I thought they were doing a great job teaching kids music. 47 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:27,810 Every time I would introduce another musician, they got as enthusiastic as I 48 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:28,810 was about it. 49 00:04:32,650 --> 00:04:39,570 Linda told me about this guy Eugene, that what he was doing with his kids was 50 00:04:39,570 --> 00:04:40,570 really important. 51 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:46,430 It's important that the kids growing up in the United States, they're Americans. 52 00:04:47,460 --> 00:04:51,900 It's important that they know that we're all immigrants, every one of us. Every 53 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:56,100 one of us is an immigrant to this country that isn't native. 54 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Linda, Linda, you tricked me. 55 00:04:59,380 --> 00:05:00,380 I tricked you? 56 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:04,880 Yeah. So I was going to come up here and do an interview with you for the sound 57 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,220 of my voice, and you said the only way you'd do an interview for your own 58 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:13,080 documentary was if I went to Mexico with you and Los Insultes and interviewed you 59 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,080 there. 60 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,600 It was a nice trick, though. 61 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,300 I wanted to go, and the bus was going, so I had a chance. 62 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:26,320 How did you get Jackson to come? 63 00:05:27,380 --> 00:05:28,380 We asked him. 64 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:34,060 He likes to eat, and he likes good music. Look, if Linda Ronson invites you 65 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:36,720 to go to Mexico, I don't need to know any more than that. 66 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Of course, let's go. 67 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,620 I knew that she wanted to take Los Anzales. 68 00:05:46,190 --> 00:05:49,050 I already knew them, so I knew it would be a great trip. 69 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:02,630 Los Enzontles means the mockingbirds. A mockingbird doesn't mock other birds. 70 00:06:03,170 --> 00:06:07,790 A mockingbird listens to the sounds of other birds, and they incorporate those 71 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:08,790 songs into their voice. 72 00:06:09,190 --> 00:06:10,550 This is what we try to do. 73 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:15,450 I was 15 when I first joined Los Enzontles, back in the 90s. 74 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,520 And it's going to be 25 years this year that I've been at Los Encontres. 75 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:32,700 Now that I'm teaching, I see my students. 76 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,480 I plant seeds. 77 00:06:39,740 --> 00:06:46,600 When I see those kids growing, the seeds growing, it just makes me very proud. 78 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,840 And I see the potential that they have, and I want to give them more. 79 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:57,240 It's a satisfaction knowing that what I'm doing, it's making an impact in 80 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,240 their life. 81 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:06,840 I am looking forward to going to Mexico. I love Mexico. 82 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Linda invited our group to join her in this trip going to Sonora. 83 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,300 She wanted to take us back to where her grandpa was from and experience that 84 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:18,300 with us. 85 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Maybe it's genetic memory, but I feel very at home when I go to Mexico. 86 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,180 When I'm in Mexico, I have a better understanding of who I am and who my 87 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:29,180 family is, you know? 88 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,900 I feel great pride in it, and I always have. 89 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:35,480 I hope it makes the kids feel like that. They have more of an understanding of 90 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,160 where they came from, the culture they came from, who they are, why they're 91 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,800 important, why they should never be rendered invisible or without their 92 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,800 dignity. 93 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:48,820 Jackson and I used to tour together. 94 00:07:49,710 --> 00:07:53,310 When we were on the road, somebody would be hung over in the corner, and somebody 95 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:56,270 else would be playing some Rolling Stones song or something on the guitar. 96 00:07:56,890 --> 00:07:58,470 But this time it was these kids. 97 00:08:05,030 --> 00:08:08,270 They were playing these really great grooves, you know, and singing really 98 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:09,930 great together. It was really a thrill for me. 99 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:11,750 I wish I could sing with them. 100 00:08:18,380 --> 00:08:23,380 We will be going into Mexico here in about another 50 meters or so, those of 101 00:08:23,380 --> 00:08:24,380 you who might be interested. 102 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:30,520 Sometimes the people who work for ICE will drop off folks right here and send 103 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,900 them through these little turnstiles, and this is where a lot of deportees 104 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:36,539 just walk along this wall here. 105 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,919 Lucina, tell me how you came to the United States. I was born and raised in 106 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:47,200 Mexico until I was 10 years old, and my dad was in the United States. 107 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:49,800 So he wanted the rest of the family to join him. 108 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,800 I came with my mom and my two younger brothers. I was 10 and my younger 109 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,100 brothers were 7 and 5. 110 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,860 We had to cross the border illegally. 111 00:09:01,020 --> 00:09:04,680 I remember just, you know, being super scared and thinking they were either 112 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:08,640 going to separate us or I thought they were going to kill us or something like 113 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,599 that. 114 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Sounds horrible. 115 00:09:11,620 --> 00:09:14,180 It was very traumatic for us. 116 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:18,960 So we were walking around in the Mexican side, and we had no money, so my mom, 117 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,900 you know, had to actually ask for money. 118 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:25,020 It was kind of embarrassing for us because, I mean, that's something that 119 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:31,660 we had never done, but my mom had to do it so that we can get some food. 120 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,980 People don't understand. 121 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:42,000 Even though, you know, I'm a citizen now, every time I see this fence or 122 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 every time I... 123 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:50,310 I go across the border, and although I can cross, you know, many 124 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:55,630 times and leave the country and travel the world, you still have that in you. 125 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:09,030 I had written a song about the violence at the border. It was called The 126 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:13,130 Silence. And Jackson was nice enough to sing with David Hidalgo from Los Lobos. 127 00:10:13,450 --> 00:10:17,290 And while we were in the studio, Jackson said, hey, I got this song about the 128 00:10:17,290 --> 00:10:21,990 border. I wanted to write a song about the problem with the border, like 30 129 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:25,750 years ago, with the lines, the Klan's been down on the border. They say it's 130 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,690 to keep law and order. I just could never get anywhere with it. Later, I 131 00:10:28,690 --> 00:10:32,890 changed it to, well, the Minutemen are down on the border. And I thought, yeah, 132 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:36,550 that's cool. He wanted to maybe do something with us. But can we not make 133 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:37,550 this about the Minutemen? 134 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:41,130 Let's make it about us, because I'm sick of talking about them. 135 00:10:41,510 --> 00:10:42,510 I want to talk about us. 136 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:46,510 And so, you know, it came almost immediately. 137 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:51,110 Just a child when she crossed the border to reunite with her father, who traveled 138 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:53,250 north to support her so many years ago. 139 00:10:53,470 --> 00:10:58,310 So then, you know, that's Lucina. You know, 10 years old, a young girl, coming 140 00:10:58,310 --> 00:11:01,790 to a new place, never seen this. And then it was all new. 141 00:11:02,290 --> 00:11:03,650 I didn't know the language. 142 00:11:03,970 --> 00:11:06,050 Then you were called a beaner. 143 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:09,930 So there were a lot of problems during that time. 144 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:27,000 The child she caught aboard To reunite with her father 145 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:33,580 Who traveled north to support her So many years before 146 00:11:33,580 --> 00:11:40,200 She left half her family behind The weather 147 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:46,620 crucified to remind her She pledged her future to this land 148 00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:49,120 And does the best she can 149 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,620 I sing The Dreamer in every show I do. I introduce it by telling them about 150 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:17,820 Eugene and how he came to write the song and that it's inspired by the story of 151 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:18,820 my friend Lucina. 152 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 It's very warmly received and people... 153 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:23,340 You stand at the end and applaud. 154 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:30,800 At the end, I do a song called I'm a 155 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,200 Patriot, when I say, and I ain't no white supremacist, and the place just 156 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,240 roars. Because who would be a white supremacist in this country? This 157 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,600 country, this country is not white. 158 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,120 It was not founded to be white. 159 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:50,400 Because I was light-skinned and with a German surname, people didn't suspect 160 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,240 that I was Mexican, and they'd make some kind of anti-Mexican remark. 161 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:57,060 They'd go, well, these greasers coming in here, you know, and I'd always get 162 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:58,060 pretty hot about it. 163 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,120 My name is Camila. I dance, sing, and play instruments. 164 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:08,480 My name's Belinda, and I'm a dancer. 165 00:13:09,210 --> 00:13:10,690 singer, and a play instrument, too. 166 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:14,630 My name is Clarissa. I dance, sing, and play instruments. 167 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:18,010 My name is Divina. I play instruments, sing, and dance. 168 00:13:18,250 --> 00:13:19,370 My name is Divina. 169 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:20,710 I dance. 170 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:24,010 My name is Juan Ortega. I'm the father. 171 00:13:25,050 --> 00:13:26,390 I'm a carpenter by trade. 172 00:13:26,930 --> 00:13:27,930 Buenas raíces. 173 00:13:29,790 --> 00:13:32,090 Yo diría que bien. Could you translate that? 174 00:13:32,330 --> 00:13:33,930 It's a good family. It's stable. 175 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:37,770 We're respectful, and we're a pretty good family. 176 00:13:38,330 --> 00:13:40,530 They'll play music all night. 177 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:43,210 You know, they'll sit down in the back room. They'll just play. 178 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:46,090 You know, I got to tell them, hey, that's it. 179 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:49,850 That's it. No more. It's 10 o'clock. Hey, no more guitars. 180 00:13:53,330 --> 00:13:57,350 The best place for people to learn to play music, in my opinion, is in family. 181 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:02,110 As a way to just connect to your brothers and sisters, to your parents, 182 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:03,230 to your grandparents, to yourself. 183 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:11,790 Culturally, I've always felt Mexican. 184 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:16,310 And I feel great pride in it, and I always have. 185 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:22,030 My grandmother, who identified as Mexican, was born in Arizona, when half 186 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:26,010 of the western territory of the United States used to be Mexico. So, you know, 187 00:14:26,050 --> 00:14:27,350 who's a newcomer? 188 00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:31,650 Mexico went all the way up through Nevada and Utah and all the way up to 189 00:14:31,650 --> 00:14:32,650 Wyoming. 190 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:35,190 We didn't migrate. The border migrated. 191 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,660 Let's get everybody together. 192 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:43,620 The show starts at 3, but we don't go first. The other group goes first. 193 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,280 And so what I suggest is for those of you who aren't playing, maybe you guys 194 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,180 can go dance pareja, just freely in the front. I grew up in Glendale, in the L 195 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:54,800 .A. area. At that time, you don't see Mexicans on television. 196 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,800 We're not really on mainstream radio. We don't exist. 197 00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:04,350 What we're trying to do with music and through our children is to cultivate all 198 00:15:04,350 --> 00:15:07,990 that they are because we are no better or no worse than anybody on this planet. 199 00:15:10,650 --> 00:15:11,950 This one is Miriam. 200 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:17,210 I was taking care of all the costumes for the children. We made two different 201 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:18,210 sets of costumes. 202 00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:26,270 The folklorico group, the children wear costumes for the mariachi style and some 203 00:15:26,270 --> 00:15:27,570 harucho style too. 204 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Our costumes are made with what we find. 205 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:33,360 Astrid, where are you from? 206 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,000 I was an immigrant twice. 207 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:41,000 My father was from Vietnam. My mother is French, and I was born in France. 208 00:15:42,940 --> 00:15:49,920 I came over here to the U.S. After the Vietnam War, and actually now most 209 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,120 of the time people think that I'm Latina. 210 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Because of the mixture that I have. But then I get what Latinas get sometimes. 211 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:01,220 And what is that? 212 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:10,000 Sometimes it surprises me how people will not be so nice, not be 213 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:16,980 as open or want to struggle communicating with me, thinking 214 00:16:16,980 --> 00:16:18,280 that I only speak Spanish. 215 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:21,840 They decide already that you have limitations. 216 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:25,970 And, of course, it had pin on. 25 years I've been teaching. 217 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:27,770 Do you know the man who runs the place? 218 00:16:28,270 --> 00:16:29,270 Yes. 219 00:16:30,010 --> 00:16:31,010 He's my husband. 220 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:33,410 You should have 10, I think. 221 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:34,670 So go ahead. 222 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:42,190 My name is Osvaldo, and what I do mostly is I'm still in 223 00:16:42,190 --> 00:16:43,190 school. 224 00:16:43,490 --> 00:16:44,730 Mostly? Yeah. 225 00:16:57,150 --> 00:17:00,190 Could you translate that? 226 00:17:00,450 --> 00:17:07,030 Some of the values that we follow are the same that my grandparents taught 227 00:17:07,030 --> 00:17:14,030 my parents, which is respect or being hardworking and being united 228 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:16,650 with our family and with our loved ones. 229 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:18,829 What kind of family are you, Iswaldo? 230 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:27,829 helps each other out when we need some help. 231 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:36,330 This long trip to get over here. We're going to get down. 232 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:38,870 They don't want to hear me. 233 00:17:39,610 --> 00:17:41,790 We got to get Fabi and Lucina ready first. 234 00:17:43,710 --> 00:17:45,910 I am a very stubborn person. 235 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:51,150 Eugene has been very tough on us. 236 00:17:51,950 --> 00:17:55,110 And he has contributed to a lot of the things that I've done. 237 00:17:55,470 --> 00:18:01,110 For example, when I first came to the U.S., I didn't want to speak English, 238 00:18:01,230 --> 00:18:06,150 but Eugene only spoke English to me. So he's like, you have to speak English. 239 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:10,250 You're here in the U.S., so you have to speak English. 240 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:14,750 It was always hard for me to take myself seriously in playing instruments. So 241 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:18,110 he's like, come on, you can do this, you can do this. Okay, and then I would just 242 00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:19,430 do it. 243 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:24,240 I want them to be themselves. 244 00:18:24,580 --> 00:18:25,640 This is what we're trying to do. 245 00:18:26,060 --> 00:18:27,120 Smile. Smile. 246 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,800 No, I can't. 247 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,659 You don't want to? 248 00:18:30,660 --> 00:18:33,940 I met Lucina when she was 15, and I'm not kidding you. She didn't smile for 249 00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:35,380 six years. Am I serious? 250 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:37,880 Yeah. She took her six years to even smile. 251 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:46,020 My point is that that wasn't why she was invited in the group. She wasn't invited 252 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:47,020 to be a puppet. 253 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,560 She was invited to be herself, and we gave her time. 254 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:52,880 for her smile to come out naturally. And now she has a natural smile. 255 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Fabiola, too. 256 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,380 Give us a big smile for the camera. 257 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:01,380 She came, she didn't think for a while. 258 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:03,580 And when it came out, it was time to come out. 259 00:19:05,140 --> 00:19:07,940 She came from a pretty big family in a tough neighborhood. 260 00:19:08,140 --> 00:19:11,740 You know, she would walk around kind of like a boy. She had her big puppy jacket 261 00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:12,740 on. 262 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,700 And she said she wanted to learn guitar. 263 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:15,900 I tried to teach her guitar. 264 00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:17,600 Next week, did you practice? No. 265 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:21,590 Next week, did you practice? I said, why are you here? You're not practicing 266 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:24,170 guitar. I figured out that she really wanted to sing. 267 00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:27,150 But she was too shy to say that she wanted to sing. 268 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:36,430 And then when she started singing, she had a beautiful voice. 269 00:19:36,770 --> 00:19:39,330 A soulful voice. 270 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:42,010 And then Fabiola became a singer. 271 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Who's that baby? He's beautiful. 272 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,280 So cute. 273 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,780 I forget how tiny they are. 274 00:19:50,780 --> 00:19:56,080 We hope you enjoyed the performance. It's from Haltoric Mexican Dance. 275 00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:07,300 We're wearing western shirts. That was a northern Mexican costume. 276 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:08,540 And the boots. 277 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,740 And the pants with the flare. They call them frontier pants. 278 00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:13,190 The hat. 279 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:14,490 It's all from Mexico. 280 00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:15,330 The 281 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:22,690 cowboy 282 00:20:22,690 --> 00:20:25,190 is all based on Mexican tradition. 283 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:30,910 Roy Rogers. 284 00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:34,610 There wouldn't be any Roy Rogers if there weren't those Mexican cowboys. 285 00:20:41,610 --> 00:20:45,110 They don't realize we're taking from them all the time and giving back. 286 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:47,830 So it's an interactive loop. 287 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:53,490 The dancers from Mexico are wonderful. I've known that group for a while and 288 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:54,930 supported them. I love them. 289 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:57,490 They're very elegant. The girls are very graceful. 290 00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:13,060 What's different about the folklorico dancing in yours? 291 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:18,980 I think each girl has a guy to dance with. Do you guys have boyfriends? 292 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,200 No. No. 293 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,760 You ready for your performance? 294 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:26,060 How do you feel? 295 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:27,300 I feel cold. 296 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:28,980 But I feel ready. 297 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,300 I also feel cold. 298 00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:47,500 Most of these performers are kids from 8 to 17 years old. 299 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,600 To have that level of musicianship that early, even if they don't play it as 300 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,960 well as a grown-up professional, they play it right. They're playing the right 301 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,200 rhythm figures, the right traditions, the right patterns, the right 302 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,200 instruments. 303 00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:03,580 And their dance steps are right. 304 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,580 So they're not compromising the rhythms. They don't make it into what I call 305 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:17,440 Dorito music, which is kind of Latin-ish music, you know. This is Mexican music. 306 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:31,340 When I share my traditions and my heritage with other 307 00:22:31,340 --> 00:22:36,520 people, I feel proud because this is music that comes from years ago, and 308 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,680 we're bringing it back alive, and it's still alive. 309 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:52,300 To play and to interpret these songs, I feel like I'm feeding my spirit. I feel 310 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:57,240 like I'm feeding my soul, and my soul is speaking through the music, through what 311 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,140 I'm doing. And then the joy that I see that people are having, that also feeds 312 00:23:02,140 --> 00:23:08,260 my soul, feeds my spirit. It's like a cycle that goes on. It's like you give, 313 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,680 and then you take. You give and you take. 314 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:17,920 Pobrecita la pelota, ganas me dan de llorar. La razón de que te 315 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:24,640 agotas es que no dejan de patear. Te dicen que te quieres antes 316 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,900 de la jugada, pero desde darte un besote da otra patada. 317 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:36,020 Ay, pelota, me gusta la pelota. 318 00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:40,780 Ay, pelota, pateando la pelota. 319 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:46,760 They get to learn the roots, they learn the tradition, and they can learn how to 320 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,760 break them. And they do. 321 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,500 They come up with some really great stuff. 322 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:59,360 They're playing the music for the right reasons. You can play music right, you 323 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:03,760 can play it well, you can play it in a very accomplished way. None of it makes 324 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,540 any difference if you're not playing it for the right reasons. 325 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,160 And the reason we play music is to celebrate our sorrows and our joys. 326 00:24:09,790 --> 00:24:14,890 and try to help make sense of something that oppresses you or celebrate 327 00:24:14,890 --> 00:24:16,150 something that lifts you up. 328 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,680 My mother, who picked vegetables and worked with her family from a very young 329 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,580 age in Southern California, she said when the music happened, those were the 330 00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:47,440 few moments of lightness in a heavy existence. 331 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,840 So to me, that's what music can do. 332 00:24:50,380 --> 00:24:53,360 There's nothing like playing music with your brothers and sisters and your 333 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,720 family. It's so much better than going shopping or watching TV or playing video 334 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,400 games. It's just beautiful. 335 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:18,800 A la orilla de un palmar, yo vi de una 336 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,520 joven bella, su 337 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,720 boquita de coral, 338 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:34,340 sus ojitos dos estrellas. 339 00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:43,220 It's about a little orphan girl that lives on the edge of a palm grove, and 340 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:45,040 she has no friends to console her. 341 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,020 She's a little tiny girl, and she comes and goes all the time. She spends her 342 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:52,500 life coming and going like the waves of the ocean. It's beautiful for her, for 343 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,359 my grandfather. 344 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,840 The music you make accompanies you your whole life. 345 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,580 And if you're lucky enough to be still encountering new family and making new 346 00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:07,820 friends when you're old, it's a very rich, rich experience. 347 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:15,940 We got the opportunity to show their dignity and their style, the way that 348 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:17,340 they performed and the way they held themselves. 349 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:19,700 And the Mexicans were really impressed. 350 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,580 It was really fantastic. 351 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,120 The older college students and the graduates of that folkloric troupe were 352 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,540 hanging out and the kids went over there. It was so fantastic. 353 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,460 that they got to meet each other. That is something that will be indelible in 354 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:39,980 the lives of these kids in Los Angeles. 355 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920 We did a show in Idaho once. 356 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,360 A Latino who was, I think, in the Army, he came up to me afterwards and he said, 357 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,500 you know, this is the first time in my life that I've felt proud of being 358 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:56,500 Mexican. 359 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,080 It's a heavy thing to hear. 360 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760 And it's not just people in the United States, it's also in Mexico. 361 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:09,910 When we did our tour of Jalisco and we brought this old music back, so many 362 00:28:09,910 --> 00:28:12,770 people would come to us with tears in their eyes, just thanking us. 363 00:28:13,630 --> 00:28:18,770 You know, how meaningful it was for them. Because, you know, culture is so 364 00:28:18,770 --> 00:28:19,770 powerful. 365 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,220 There's Mexico and then there's Mexico-America. 366 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:39,320 Mexican-American culture is huge. 367 00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:42,880 It's two different cultures. They have a lot of similarities, but it's fun to go 368 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,840 and explore what's the same and what's different. 369 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,300 It's very rewarding for me to be on this trip to see you in Mexico. 370 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,980 Fantastic. Do you have any musical tips? Oh, my goodness. 371 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:01,320 May I give you guys advice? Just keep doing it. 372 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:06,290 You know, what you're doing is really essential to every other thing, whether 373 00:29:06,290 --> 00:29:12,830 it's making a family or whether it's having a band, you know, to be a part of 374 00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:16,130 something bigger, you know, that you have a role in and then you see the 375 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:18,290 whole thing. It's really great. 376 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:24,830 You were so good yesterday. 377 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:26,130 I was so proud of you. 378 00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:29,190 To me, it's magical to meet a woman. 379 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,560 who is so interested in so many things, and I appreciate that it's not just 380 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,140 talk. She just does what she says. She means what she says. 381 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:49,940 I don't get to meet many people who are like her. 382 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,580 You know, as far as I'm concerned, what Linda's doing for these kids is 383 00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:56,500 fantastic. It's unbelievable. 384 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,920 Yes. 385 00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:02,830 And I think it's about life, too. It's how you choose your life to be. 386 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:05,230 I like that last song when everybody's singing together. 387 00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:10,650 I think it's important for her to say that life for Latinos is important and 388 00:30:10,650 --> 00:30:13,590 just as important as anybody else would think their life is. 389 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:19,550 So today... 390 00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:22,950 Do you have any thoughts about going back across the border? 391 00:30:23,270 --> 00:30:28,770 I think about how much I don't have to think about it because of the privilege 392 00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:31,950 I have of being a citizen of the United States. 393 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:41,070 We came back on the bus. 394 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:45,690 We had my little great niece, Annabelle, with us. She was two, and she was the 395 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:47,350 pet of the bus, and everybody was playing with her. 396 00:30:52,110 --> 00:30:54,910 And I thought, what if we got to the border and they took Annabelle away and 397 00:30:54,910 --> 00:30:55,910 put her in a cage? 398 00:30:56,050 --> 00:30:59,150 What if they took her away from her mother who loves her and will protect 399 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:03,070 her and her father who loves her and wants to protect her and just lost her 400 00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:04,070 in the system? 401 00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:09,250 We'd just be beside ourselves. 402 00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:15,750 I ask myself what music can do. 403 00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:20,170 I think musical culture. 404 00:31:20,860 --> 00:31:22,240 is constantly in flux. 405 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,500 And we have to see ourselves in this flow. 406 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,940 We're part of something so much bigger than just where we are. And I think 407 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:34,780 music and culture is the embodiment of that flow. 408 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,020 Well, music will find its way. It always does. 409 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640 It carries as much of the truth as it can hold. 410 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:41,820 But it has to resonate in the zeitgeist. 411 00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:45,660 We have to have people out there to hear it. 412 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:54,300 and the peaches are rotting. The oranges piling their 413 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,220 crystal down. 414 00:31:57,060 --> 00:32:02,960 They're flying back to the Mexican border 415 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,400 to pay all their money and wave back again. 416 00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:16,580 My father, some father, he waited. 417 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,240 that river. 418 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:23,380 They took all the money he made in his life. 419 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:31,100 My brothers and sisters don't work in the fruit trees. They're 420 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:35,380 both the big trucks till they lay down and die. 421 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,520 There's a negative image being placed on Mexicans now becoming... It's growing 422 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520 stronger. Yeah. 423 00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:23,380 Here, the negative presentation, they're choosing those bad people and they're 424 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:27,240 setting them as the face of my people. 425 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,040 How do you feel about it? 426 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:35,420 I feel sad because I feel like everybody should be treated the same way. 427 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:41,840 Oswaldo, as a kid, what do you think when you see these news stories of 428 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,960 children being separated from their mom and dad? 429 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,180 I'm lucky to have a family and to be with them. 430 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,980 When me and my sister were little, my little brother wasn't here yet. I 431 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:57,200 remember one time I was smaller than my sister. 432 00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:01,050 And they were gone, or my dad was gone. 433 00:34:03,070 --> 00:34:05,210 He had been detained. 434 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:15,190 And that was very scary for me because, I mean, I was little. I was like five. 435 00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:24,670 One thing I will say about that is... 436 00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,850 I think the parents should talk to their kids. 437 00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:33,969 Even if I used to be informed that some parents don't go to pick up their kids 438 00:34:33,969 --> 00:34:36,830 because, of course, they're already detained or they're already gone. 439 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:42,630 And I think it's the best decision for the kids to know, even though they think 440 00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:43,549 they're young. 441 00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:49,350 Maybe they cannot tell them everything, but something to start the conversation. 442 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:52,150 You think that they're agents of another country? 443 00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:55,800 You think these people came to the United States to serve the Mexican 444 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,720 government? They left their country. They left their families. 445 00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:05,080 There's another amazing song that I can't sing because I can't get through 446 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,460 it without crying. 447 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:10,660 But it's a Joel Raphael song called Sierra Blanca Massacre. 448 00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:14,620 Immigrants who were being smuggled into the United States were locked in a 449 00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:19,190 container. and left in the heat by the people that were smuggling them, and 450 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:23,810 they died. As they realized they weren't going to survive this, they wrote some 451 00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:28,610 things down, you know, that my friend Joel put into a song, and very moving. 452 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:37,990 Fleeing my country for a better life I didn't even 453 00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:40,970 say goodbye to my friend 454 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Not to my grandparents, 455 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,340 nor to my parents. 456 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,400 Rosario, Caldera, Salazar. 457 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,220 Alone I cried. 458 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,080 There was no witness. 459 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:06,880 Only God knew my sorrow and shame. 460 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920 And I didn't leave you. 461 00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:13,960 One single thing. 462 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,700 Alone I left my country in pain. 463 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Alone I left my country in pain. 464 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,780 These are some words from the victims found 465 00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:38,500 inside a boxcar in a small Texas town. 466 00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:46,110 Lots from the outside, inside of their fleas. 467 00:36:47,790 --> 00:36:52,750 Inside was a hundred and thirty degrees. 468 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:58,470 Inside was a hundred and thirty degrees. 469 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:09,230 These are people who were forced to leave. 470 00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:13,370 They left places that were beautiful, and they had culture. 471 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:18,550 So just to think about a... Sure. 472 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:22,970 I tell you, it's being sleep-deprived. 473 00:37:23,210 --> 00:37:26,850 What? It's being sleep-deprived. I'm not actually, I have no sentiments. 474 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:29,970 I don't believe you for a second. 475 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:33,810 You wouldn't be doing what you do if you didn't care a lot. 476 00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:41,600 He's underneath the sadness, rage. 477 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,140 So, yeah, so, you know, why the hell should a little kid bear the burden? Why 478 00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,580 does a child have to bear that humiliation? 479 00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:54,240 Why do their fathers have to bear the humiliation? 480 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Just because they're trying to make a living. 481 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:05,240 So, Aldo, what do you want for the country in your future? 482 00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:08,990 I want to see white people and Mexicans together. 483 00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:12,130 I want to see them talking to each other. 484 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:23,890 People have been embracing aspects of Mexican culture for years and not even 485 00:38:23,890 --> 00:38:24,890 realizing it. 486 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:34,350 You can be proud of the culture you came from and feel good to identify yourself 487 00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:35,279 that way. 488 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,760 I was always very proud of being Mexican. 489 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,400 What's a charro? 490 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,200 Well, in Mexico, that's kind of like a cowboy. 491 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:46,540 And I have a feeling you guys are going to make wonderful charros. 492 00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:50,140 Oh, no! 493 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,140 We can sing like a charro and ride the way charros ride. 494 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,900 It means that you're really charo, so say it with lots of pride. Oompa loompa 495 00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,380 loompa! Oompa loompa loompa! 496 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,300 You're really charo, so say it with lots of pride. 497 00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:10,620 Aye! 498 00:39:53,550 --> 00:39:57,570 And right the way Charo's right. It means that you're really Charo, so say 499 00:39:57,570 --> 00:39:58,890 it with not so fright. 42314

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