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Hi, everybody.
I'm so excited that you can join us today

because I expect this to be one of the most
formidable conversations having to do with

disclosure and the whole movement to allow
the public access to UAP files and documents.

I'm talking with Danny Sheehan today, and,
the Danny Sheehan, and Danny has been part of

disclosure from the very beginning.

And I met Danny initially in-- 25 years ago
at the disclosure Steven Greer put on in

Washington, DC, at the National Press Club.

And Danny is back in DC right now dealing with
some issues having to do with whistleblowers

that are trying to get this information out.

So Danny, I know you don't have
a whole lot of time, so welcome.

Oh.
It's all right. Thank you, Regina.

Yeah, it's a big event.

We're having kind of a strategic summit
meeting with the senators and congressmen,

over in the Senate office building first
thing tomorrow morning, starting at 9:00.

I've been meeting here, over in the National
Council of Churches building with the heads of

different religious denominations, to
try to get them prepared for disclosure.

we're meeting with, nuclear arms negotiators,
here in the State Department, trying

to get them to take up the issue of, trying to
get a treaty established with Russia and China

to not weaponize any of the technology that
they're reverse engineering, with the craft

that they've captured.
you know, so it's a lot of intense activity

going on right now, and I'm planning to go
over to, Rome, to meet with people in the

Vatican now, the head of the science,
commission for the, for Pope Leo, to try to

get them to come to grips with a lot of this.

So it's a very intense time.

A lot of people feel that, the time is
approaching fairly rapidly when they're not

going to be able to keep, this stuff secret
very much longer, and they're having to try to

prepare some of the institutions,
to, respond to this.

another, in other words, it's a normal
day for Danny Sheehan, so Danny-

Yeah.
In other, in other words, it's a Tuesday

- It's another Tuesday
- and we're-- Wednesday already.

Oh, my God.
Okay, so you know, I want, there are a lot of

different places to start with this because
one of the themes that has been popped up all

along regarding with, from the military,
from the governments around the world with

disclosure is, what happens to the faith of
the people of the world once they understand

we're not alone, that we're not the only,
human or advanced civilization out there?

And since you're right at the epicenter of
all of that, what would you say at this time,

meeting with these various religious
leaders of all faiths from around the world?

Well, I think, I think one of the major
challenges that we have with the

- religious institutions-
- Okay

is that the institutions of the major
religions, the Protestant religions and the

Catholic religions specifically, and some
of the others, is that the institutions have

for so long suppressed the knowledge that
our human species is capable of, some of

the very kind of things that
they've reserved for the avatars.

- Yeah.
- You know, the ability to

telepathically communicate,
levitate, you know, transmute matter.

There are all kinds of facilities and
faculties that our human species has that are

latent that have been historically
categorized as occult-

- Right
- or heathen.

and they have been.
So there's a-- there's an amount of disclosure

that's gonna have to go on from, primarily
the Catholic Church, has been the most

restrictive about this.

The Protestant denominations, deal with
it as kind of an evangelical set of, what they

call talents, you know, of speaking in
tongues and curing people by laying out of

hands and, other types of things like that.

But they still relegate a substantial
portion of the activities, the special,

capabilities that our human species
has, as part of occult, even demonic.

so we have to overcome that particular
challenge because part of the major disclosure

that's gonna take place on the part of the
government, is that these beings, who are

extraterrestrial, who have come to our planet,
and have bases under the oceans and high in

some of the mountains now,
actually have these capacities.

and that we have these capacities
as well, but we just don't know it.

So that, our people needn't be afraid of them,
simply because they display these types of

qualities and characteristics that
have been historically characterized

- as occult or even demonic.
- Right.

so that bridge
has to get crossed here.

so that's one of the major,
obligations that we have.

As you know, I spent 10 years as chief counsel
at the United States Jesuit headquarters here

in Washington, DC, in their
social ministry office.

and we tried back in 1977 out of the Jesuit
headquarters to try to get the National

Council of Churches, to convene meetings about
the UFO phenomenon, which I had discovered

because I was special counsel to
President Jimmy Carter's investigation-

- Right
- of the UFO phenomenon.

And we tried to share with them what it is we
had come to know, and they were basically into,

- "We don't want to hear it, yet."
- Yet.

- But with-
- has now come.

The time is here, and there's lots of
information starting to come out about it now

because a whole new generation of people
inside the military and inside the

intelligence agencies, inside the State
Department, have now become, upset about the

- fact that this is being concealed.
- Yes.

they know that the national security
state people, Central Intelligence Agency's

Operations Directorate, the Pentagon's Joint
Special Operations Command, and others- Are

actively engaged in trying to weaponize the
technology that's being recovered from a

number of these UFO crap.

and so this is kind of a
serious situation that we've really gotta open

up communications with Russia and China
specifically to get them to agree with us not

- to weaponize, this type of technology.
- What happens once this planet

lets go of the information, allows the people
to become comfortable with the notion we're

not alone, which last I heard 55%
of the population of Earth already

agrees we're not alone.

So it's not like they're
having to win over everybody.

But once that is just common to our thought
and even contact may have begun, what are the

implications for these large questions
such as how we leap from a type zero

to a type one civilization?

And same with your work
at New Paradigm Institute.

What does this mean for us?

- What are the-
- Well-

- potentials here?
- Well, there-- You need to

understand, for example, our United States
executive branch, and our legislative branch

are divided into very specific categories.

For example, there are 15 cabinet level
departments in the executive branch, and there

are eight other agencies, federal agencies,
that are at that level that have divided

up all the issues to how we respond to them.

Economic issues, international
relations issues-

- Yeah
- business impact that this has.

And so what we need to do is we need
to get the departments that are in the

United States executive branch over and above
simply the intelligence community, and the

military involved in this.

Now they have to start getting briefed in
about the reality that the military people

know about this and the intelligence
communities know about this.

We've gotta share this information with the
other agencies in the executive branch so they

can begin the work of trying to figure out
what are the implications for their particular

area, you know?

and the same thing is over on
the congressional side.

We have to get the chairs of those
congressional committees, over and above

the Armed Services Committee, and the
intelligence committees of the House and

Senate briefed up on this thing.

and the problem is that the intelligence,
community and the executive branch is refusing

to allow the members of Congress even to know
about this, because they don't trust them.

They think that they're gonna tell
the people because that's--

- The people already-- This is the thing.
- That's-

The people, they're-- The
genie's out of the bottle.

- People already know.
- Yeah.

The government has to play
catch up with the people really.

Yeah.
That's right. And so, so they-- we're

engaged in that process now in that we've
gotten the House Oversight Committee to set up

a special task force, on the
declassification of the UFO information.

- Mm-hmm.
- we're working with them.

Congressman Eric Burlison, is the one
who holds the brief basically on that.

I'm gonna be meeting with him tomorrow morning.

I've been asked to write a 58-page bill to
help the House of Representatives set up a

task force to be able to review all of these
documents and figure out how, how rapidly we

can get all this information out to the people,
how to do this in a way that enables us to

integrate this information into the
cultural structures that we have.

so that this is an important dynamic.

Because of my training in law school and
government studies and in law, et cetera, I'm

concentrating in this area of trying to get
our constitutional structures prepared

to absorb this information, to take it out
of the exclusive hands of the military and the

intelligence community, get it into the hands
of the rest of our government in the

legislative branch and the executive branch,
and start making the plans, as to how we're

gonna respond to this.
That's what our New

Paradigm Institute is doing.

In addition to generating the support for
disclosure, which we've done because,

we have teams now in 42 states.

We got people in 42 states working on
pressuring their legislative representatives

in the House and in the Senate,
to support full disclosure.

We're mobilizing now to get every
single one of the candidates for Republican

and Democratic, parties and the Liberal Party,
the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, every

single candidate for any one of the 435 House
seats and any one of the 35 Senate seats that

are up for election this year, we're getting
them to have to sign this pledge card that if

in fact they're elected, they will support
full transparency about the UFO issue.

So that's a very concrete thing that
we're engaged in doing right now.

we're involved now in meeting with a lot of
the ranking members of the

House of Representatives of the different
committees in anticipation of the fact that

just as a matter of objective fact, it's about
85% likely that the Democratic Party's gonna

take over the House of Representatives on
November 3rd, and when they get sworn in on

January 3rd, there are gonna be
new chairpersons, of these, of

all of these committees.
So we're now briefing them, trying to make

sure they're briefed up on this subject so
that when they get the gavel, they'll know,

what the issue is that they
have to come to deal with.

These are very concrete logistical things that
we're working on right now, but one of the

tactics that we're engaged in at the New
Paradigm Institute is trying to formulate

- policy-
- Yeah

for each of these different,
executive branch, departments.

when I was at the Jesuit headquarters, that
was one of my jobs, was to figure out what

policies we're gonna be developing for the
Roman Catholic, order of the Jesuits,

which have a substantial influence on
the US Catholic Conference of Bishops.

- Mm-hmm.
- and they have a substantial, impact on the

interfaith community in the Washington
Interreligious Staff Councils that are here in

Washington, who in turn have a major impact
on the congregations around the country.

so that's what we're doing right now.

and as I say, we're also gonna be working with
the Vatican to try to get the Vatican to be

able to reach out because they can reach out
into all the parishes, throughout the world.

Does Leo seem to be open?

- Is Pope Leo open?
- Leo is-- Leo is quite open to this.

Yes, he's now, he's now appointed, Cardinal
Peter Turkson, to be in charge of the

Pontifical Academy of Sciences, who is a, a
person whom I know and I've met with a number

of times.
and he was the former chair of the Papal

Commission on Social Justice.

- So he's very cognizant-
- Yeah

of the need of people involved in all of this.

So, we're doing all this
through the New Paradigm Institute.

We've organized the Citizens for Disclosure.

we're working very closely with the UAP,
Disclosure Foundation, which is convening the,

the meetings tomorrow.

on Thursday at 9:00 we're gonna be meeting
in the Senate Russell, Senate Building.

We're gonna be having presentations now about
the economic implications of disclosure,

religious and psychological, social,
psychological impacts of the disclosure.

all of those are gonna be subject
to the discussions tomorrow.

so this is the-- There's a lot of
activity going on in Washington, D.C.

- right now.
- Oh, that's a Herculean, Herculean feat if

you can get any of this done.

And, you know, to me, what's so fascinating
is that going back to May of 2001,

you've made a lot of headway since then
because I remember outside of the actual event

itself, we were walking the halls of Congress-

- Yeah, right
- trying to get the attention of aides, trying

to say, "Look, this stuff is real.

- Do you think-
- Yeah

- you can pass this on?" And of course they-
- Yeah

shut the door in our faces.

- I think-
- Yeah

almost without exception.

I think Dennis Kucinich was
about the only exception to it.

Dennis was very open
to this 'cause he is-

He was.
So you have-

- Yeah
- you have come a long way, but this really

begs another question.

I think the reason so much incredible
evidence was released back then is because Dr.

Steven Greer, who organized Disclosure
along with you as the counsel for

- Disclosure, were civilians.
- Yeah.

Because it's the military and
government that are the hangup.

They're the ones that are stopping any kind of
real flow of knowledge between the people and

- the phenomena.
- That's right.

Where back then it was phenomenal.

The amount of evidence that you guys brought
forward in the original disclosure event to me

was far more impressive than the little bits
and pieces that are coming out today of-

- Yeah
- UAP video. I mean, how do you feel about

- that when I say that?
- Well, it's interesting.

a lot of the information that's come out, on
June 8th and then later on June 12th,

those tranches of information that have
been released is duplicative of what we've

- been talking about for 25 years.
- Yeah.

- Yeah.
- So we've conscientized a large number of

people in the country about the reality of all
this, but it's extremely important that people

who are listening to what the government tells
them, still is true, that they're being told

now by the government that, "Oh, yes, by the
way, it's true." they haven't really confessed

saying, "Oh, yeah, we've been lying to you all
this time." But they are revealing

the fact that they've been gathering all this
information for all this time when they've

been issuing all these public statements
saying that they aren't gathering any

- information about this.
- Right.

They consider it so unrealistic and
unreasonable that they aren't bothering to

even do it.
That was clearly all false.

but the fact is they still haven't revealed
the fact that they've captured a number of

- the UFO craft-
- Mm-hmm

that they actually have live ET beings,
in custody, that they've actually, had

face-to-face discussions
with some of these ET beings.

they have lots of information about what
the star systems are that they come from.

You know, they know all this stuff.

And so it's totally ridiculous.

I mean, they're here showing us little dancing
lights in the sky that are kind of doing-

I know.
That's what I'm saying.

doing fancy maneuvers.
And they're, now admitting that

here's a whole bunch of 302, reports of,
Office of Special Investigations going out

from the Air Force in investigating
sightings and all that which they lied about

and said they weren't doing.
But that doesn't tell you anything.

All that does is tells you that they've been
looking at it all this time, but they aren't

telling you what it is they now know.

- Uh-
- Right

- so they're trying their-
- And that's been known all-

- Their-
- that's been known all these years.

And some of the evidence, for example, I mean,
we have art imitating life all the time, and

right now there, it's interesting because,
back then it was one of the people

revealed that they had access to photographic
evidence that was taken that there were

structures on the moon, on
the backside of the moon.

And it's been said there are actual like
little mushroom-like, and dome-like, and

tower-like structures on
the backside of the moon.

That was part of the evidence that these
people were willing to go before Congress and

swear under oath to back in
the original 2001, disclosure.

And now we have something which is fascinating
to me, like there's a series called For

All Mankind, which kind of twists history
a bit, but it goes right for building bases on

the moon and then Mars.

And so here, now we have Elon Musk, who has
just gotten-- become a trillionaire in this,

- this deal going public, his IPO.
- Yep.

But it's tied to him putting one
million people on bases on Mars

before he gets a payout.

- He's serious about this.
- Yeah.

Oh, yeah.
No, no, there's no, there's

no doubt that he is.
You know, he's calling everybody on it

saying, "Look it," you know, "don't try
to pretend we don't know about this."

- Yeah.
- "It's the real deal." he's smarter than

other people, so he gets out ahead of people-

- Yep
- and starts monetizing it, you know?

- Yeah.
- Figuring sell stock in it, how to--

He'll be selling tickets, you know, to
go to Mars, and to become part of the initial

colonies there.
You know, he's a smart guy.

you know, but the problem is that
the military, in conjunction with the private

aerospace corporations other than Elon's,
are trying to develop weapons,

with this technology.

and Elon Musk has said, you know,
"Screw this, spending time building weapons

- about this."
- Right.

"Let's get into the commercial
development of all of this stuff and get bases

put up on Mars and, and start moving
out into the solar system and out

into the galaxy." You know?

So he's taking advantage of the fact that the
institutions are still stuck in the mud of the

- national-
- Yes

- security state.
- Way out, way out ahead

But, we need to take, steps to
be precautionary because the fact is we know

that the military and the
intelligence community is trying to

weaponize this technology.

They're trying to build a delivery
system for nuclear warheads.

I mean, how primitive is this?

they're saying, "Oh, lookit.

Here we have this technology that can
go 40,000 miles an hour inside our atmosphere

without any friction.

let's figure out how to make a platform for
delivery of nuclear weapons into Russia and

China." You know, this is the old
Sufi saying, I've talked about it before with

you, that when a pickpocket meets a
saint, all he sees are his pockets.

- Yeah.
- You know?

and, and that's, that's what's happening
now with our national security state people.

and they're capturing
a major, a chunk of our tax monies.

You know, they're putting a, you
know, $1.2 trillion now, of the taxes into

more weaponry.
and they're-- this is their next generation of

weapons that they want to develop.

and so that we've gotta head them off.

we the people have to rise up and cut them off
at the gulch here to stop them from doing any

further development.
But we're gonna have to have this in bilateral

communications with Russia and China so they
don't continue to go forward because they

started responding to us.

They knew that we were capturing UFOs.

They knew that we were
doing reverse engineering.

And so they started turning a lot of their
resources to trying to figure out how to get

their hands on a UFO, and so they could get at
the technology as well, that, we've gotta back

up out of this thing before they get totally
committed to this whole new generation of

- weaponry, okay?
- We do.

That's what we're
doing in Washington this week.

So Danny, there's another-- On that point, as I
recall from back when, there was, in fact, I

think it was even used in a series, some of
the original footage out of Vandenberg Air

- Force Base-
- Yeah

that famous footage where we tried to, way
back in, what was it, the '60s, tried to shoot

off a warhead, I think, to the moon?

- And a-
- Well, no, no, it wasn't a warhead.

What it was, it was
actually the missile that would contain the-

The missile that, yes.

- Right
- that took a satellite-

- Yes
- that nuclear weaponized.

- Yes.
- that--

Tell, and finish the story
about what happened with that-

- Yeah
- because I bring it up for a reason, an

obvious reason.
So please tell everybody what happened in that

- footage when that missile went up.
- What happened, it was one of the rare

instances in which there's been an
aggressive action undertaken by a UFO.

And the UFO began to track the missile
that was going at thousands of miles an hour

and just running circles all around it, and,
and shot a beam of light, into it,

and then went up in front of it and got out
ahead, pacing it, and then shot another beam

of light into it, and then came back and got
on the other side and shot- another beam of

light into it.
And what happened is the, it

- disempowered the navigation system for the-
- Yes

entire rocket.
And so it went tumbling out into the

atmosphere and fell and burnt up, sending the
message to our military, "Look, stop doing

- this."
- Yes.

"Don't try to put nuclear
weapons out into space."

- Yes.
- "Uh, don't do this." You know, just like

they went, as you said, you've, we've
talked about it before, about back in 1967

- when they shut down all the missiles-
- Yes

off in Montana.
they shut down-

Robert Solis.
Yeah.

- Yeah, they-
- Yeah

they shut down all of those nuclear missiles
saying, "Look, don't do this," and they've

been trying to communicate this to
our national security state people.

The national security state people, all
they're doing is responding, going, "Oh look,

they're surveilling us.

Oh look, they're taking
aggressive action toward us.

We're gonna have to try to figure
out how to combat this," you know?

The bottom line is our American citizenry,
faced with this major set of revelations, and

the expansion of the concentric circle of
reality, that we now see happening, of

letting in the fact that there's
another civilization in our galaxy.

There's another whole civilization of a number
of different star systems of non-human species

that we're all part of, and that we've
gotta use this as the larger perspective so

that we don't, we don't spend all of our time,
you know, trying to kill each other, down here

- on our planet.
- I, I totally, I agree with that.

So going back to what we were just talking
about where the ETs have intervened when it

has come to certain aggressive actions or
potential use of nuclear warheads, they have

intervened, and they've done that on behalf
of not just us, but also whoever lives out in

outer space.
They don't want that stuff flying around.

- They don't want-
- Sure

nuclear warheads flying around.

So I guess my question would be, here we are
all these years later, and you're talking

about China and Russia and the United
States back engineering, and trying

to use these technologies.

Would you guess that these civilizations might
do the same thing now if we start, try to

misuse our back-engineered technology?

Might they intervene again just
to keep us from hurting ourselves?

- Which is, they've done that a fair amount.
- I think they're not so concerned about just

our hurting ourselves.
I think what they're concerned about is the

- destruction of the genetic material-
- Yeah

on our planet.
That, you know, our planet seems to be one of

the comparatively rare, not unique, but
one of the comparatively rare planets in the

- galaxy-
- Mm-hmm

- that actually gestates life.
- Yes.

and so there's obviously others
because there's other star systems that have

generated, intelligent beings
that are coming here.

But the bottom line is that we're one
of the comparatively rare planets.

And so we've got all kinds of witnesses
about them gathering together flora and fauna.

- You know, examples of-
- Yes

wild-- And human genetic material.

You know, they're clearly
harvesting this genetic material here

on our planet as a resource.

They may even be potentially seeding
life, elsewhere in the galaxy.

You know, on planets that have been able to,
they're able to sustain life, but they haven't

been able yet to gestate life.

You know, so they
could be engaged in it.

And so that's why a
thermonuclear war, even while it might wipe

out our species, what they're really
concerned about, I think, is the mutation of

all of the genetic material on our planet.

You know, which is of great value
to other people in the galaxy.

- Yes.
- Yes

This is what
they're concerned about.

So that that's, and that's the threat
of the nuclear weapons, you know?

And so that's what
they're trying to stave off now.

and the reality is that the, as
you know, the doomsday, the famous,

scientists, the board of scientists that
run the doomsday clock have now advanced the

doomsday clock up to, you know,
85 seconds before midnight.

You know?
I mean, this is closer to

nuclear war right now than we were during the,
during the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis

because the Soviet Union and the United States
are basically as spearheads, you know, in

the Ukraine with the United States
providing major military equipment

and stuff to the Ukraine.

You know, Russia is losing 30,000
men every single month that are being

killed in the Ukraine.

and the Ukraine is losing
20,000 men every single month.

and Putin, he realizes the
numbers don't bode well for them.

And so therefore he's now talking to his field
commanders to potentially deploy tactical

- nuclear weapons, you know, into the field.
- The newer generations, the Millennials, the

Gen Zs, the Alphas, this is- that's not the
world that they care to create, nor inherit.

- That's right.
- And it's just stale.

- Yeah.
- And that kind of thinking just needs to

die away with the, the new
consciousness that's here.

- And-
- That's right

speaking of that, I wanna go back again a
little bit because I find it fascinating that

back in the '40s and '50s you had some
incredible contact that was taking place with

people like Howard Menger
and, George Adamski-

- Yeah
- where they were meeting with these beautiful

people from other planets that would take them
on their ships, show them what life can be

like, and also explain to them what our
planet is not only capable of, show them how

interstellar space travel works.

- All of this back in the '60s, right?
- Yeah.

And so it went from a very gentlemanly kind of
contact to what then became these horror films,

- alien invasions.
- Right.

And now, how do you stop that mindset
among a few of the people on Capitol Hill that

I think some of whom you're working
with that still have this aggressive mindset

that somehow because they fly
over our bases, they're a threat.

- Yeah.
- How do you stop that?

- The, we-
- Well-

- that needs to be stopped.
- What we have to do is we have

- to outperform them.
- Yeah.

You know?
We have to be able to establish an upward,

positive, forward narrative surrounding
our engagement with the extraterrestrial

civilization rather than this threat scenario.

You know, but as long as the national security
state is more active and more dedicated than

we are, you know, they're gonna, they're
gonna continue this other narrative.

So what we've gotta do is our citizenry
has to basically get up off the couches, you

know, put down the clicker, you know, stop
just sitting here spending your time, you know,

clicking from one movie to another, you
know, talking to your television now with the

technology to change the channels.

You know, we've gotta get up
and do our job as citizens.

You know, we here in the United States, the
citizens in the United States make up only 4%

of the total population in the entire planet,
and yet we're the ones that can actually

- influence the United States' policies.
- Yes.

You know, that if we mobilize and we take the
position that we absolutely demand that our,

our national security state people stop
what they're doing, stop financing this.

You know, they already
think they have to hide it.

You know, they're concealing
this funding.

They're embezzling money out of other
appropriations, you know, to-- And it's a

- federal crime what they're doing.
- Yeah. Yep.

You know?
They're killing people to silence

them from revealing this information,
which is a federal crime under RICO.

You know, it's one of the predicate
crimes of a federal criminal racketeering

organization, you know?

That we've been asked at the New Paradigm
Institute by the same people that drafted the

legislation for the United States Senate
back in 2023 to draft a federal criminal

racketeering act, a criminal complaint, about
what they've been doing and file it with the

main Justice Department, so we can begin
to get FBI people and others involved in

conducting the kind of investigations that
need to be conducted here to disassemble, this

national security state apparatus that is
attempting to, co-opt and misuse the

technology that they're recovering from
the extraterrestrial space vehicles.

- Right.
- That's what we have to do.

And the people, the people they're trying to
silence, I mean, the crimes against people

they're trying to silence.
In fact, on that note, I think it came up just

a few days ago on the General McCaslin story
that he was actually set to testify apparently

just before he disappeared.

What do you know about that?
Have you heard anything?

Well, the, not set to testify.

He was notified
the morning before he disappeared-

- Yes
- that he's on a list, to be subpoenaed-

- Yes
- to testify.

- Yes.
- and as soon as he heard

about that, he was gone.

Within 24 hours he was disappeared.

He disappeared himself.

He very clearly just packed up
and left and got in the wind.

That's what happened.

He was avoiding a subpoena.

And, you know, and then there was this in-
this inclination on the part of the UFO

community to try to find anybody else that had
any even tangential relationship to him who

had been killed or mysteriously disappeared,
and they started lining up this big long list

of all these major scientists.

They started referring to
them as the scientists.

They weren't scientists.
I mean, one of the guys was in charge

of the guns that were used to
protect a particular facility, which was a

laboratory for doing nuclear
experiments, you know?

And it fell under the jurisdiction of McCaslin
because he was in charge of all of the weapons

programs in the Pentagon, right?

That's the only connection it had.

- So McC-
- So McCaslin disappeared himself-

On purpose.
Yeah

- on purpose to get out of harm's way.
- That's right.

- To--
- Yeah

- avoid being subpoenaed.
- Yeah.

- Okay?
- Okay.

and so we're trying to get
Comer, who, Comer is the chairman of the House

Oversight Committee.
we're trying to get him to agree to issue

subpoenas- You know, to not author--
the task force on the declassification of

government secrets doesn't have the authority
to issue subpoenas, but Comer does as the

chair, of the, House Oversight Committee.

But he's got to get a majority vote of the
members of the House Oversight Committee to

authorize those subpoenas.

and so that we're having
conversations with him and his staff this week

to try to get them to do that, okay?

That the Republicans, rather than,
just, you know, being frightened

of the shadow behind them of the Democrats
taking over the House, what we've got to do is

get the Republican leadership to do
something between now and November 3rd.

You know?
or actually between now and January 3rd when

they, when they're gonna be
replaced by the Democratic, leaders.

But so we're trying to get the
Republican and Democratic leaders to work

- together cooperatively.
- That's what has to happen.

- That's what-
- They need to work cooperatively.

- Yeah
- that's what we've got to do. Say, "Look it,"

you know, "don't just view the
Democratic Party as a threat-

- Right
- to be unseating you.

Work with them now that you know
they're gonna be coming into power.

Work together so that you can, in a bipartisan
way, issue the subpoenas to get the people in,

initially behind closed doors, to testify,
to tell the members of the, of the House

Oversight Committee what it is that the s- the,
military and the intelligence community knows

about the UFO phenomenon," which
is quite considerable, okay?

And then what we've got to
do is get Congress to approve setting up a

congressionally appointed review committee
that's gonna review all these documents and

figure out the priority within
which to release them to the public.

And also to be recommending legislation,
in the positive side to amend our

institutions and our geopolitical
relationships with other countries to start

preparing for this reality, you know,
that we're not only not the

leading sentient being in the whole universe,
but the fact is that this other civilization

has technology and advances that
are as much as potentially six billion years-

- Yes
- six billion years-

- Yes
- in advance of us.

So do you feel that contact-- You know, there
are many different channelers, some famous

- channelers saying, "Contact is upon us."
- Yeah.

"Contact is this year.
Contact is 2027."

- Right.
- How do you feel about actual open contact

considering all that's
going on behind the scenes?

Well, I mean, the reality is
that there's been contact already.

- Well, yeah.
- Obviously. I mean, I Oh, sorry.

- And you know what I mean.
- I know, I know.

Well, that we got, you know, we got the,
16 millimeter movie of the contact back in,

on April 26th of-- what was it?

When was this?
19--, I'm trying to remember.

At Holloman Air Force Base.

I think it was 1964.

Yeah, April 26th of 1964.

- Tell us about that

Well, three UFO craft came to Holloman
Air Force Base in New Mexico, hovered over the

tarmac, and the middle one descended
onto the tarmac and landed, and a humanoid but

non-human being got out of the craft.

You know, there's a 16 millimeter movie of it.

They took the film of it, and met with two
high-ranking, US Air Force uniformed officers,

and two civilian, government people, or
apparently CIA people, and went into a hangar

and spent a considerable amount of time in the
hangar having telepathic communications with

each other, okay?
So we know that there's a movie of that.

- Edgar Mitchell told me all about it.
- Mm-hmm.

You know, one evening up at
Ions, I mean, a decade ago.

You know, so we've known this.

So we've got direct communications going.

and so now the thing to keep in mind
is that, the ET people, if they chose at any

given moment to make it completely obvious to
everybody that they're here, you know, they

- could land on the White House lawn.
- Sure they could.

- Yeah.
- As long as there wasn't a cage fight going

on on the lawn- and they have room to land.

You know, but the bottom line is
that they could do it, and what they're trying

to do is they're trying to facilitate our
human institutions setting down the sword, you

know, laying aside the sword, and stop trying
to kill each other off, and establish a

collective response to the opportunities
that are really being presented by the

extraterrestrial civilization.

That's what they're in the process of trying
to-- they're trying to facilitate that.

We have elements even inside the government,
even inside some of the intelligence agencies,

trying to get this done, but those who are
still in charge, are still stopping it-

- Right
- because they're committed to using the

technology to weaponize and to establish
full-spectrum military dominance over our

planet over and against Russia and
China, and that's what's happening.

Same old story.
Well, Danny, I know that

you don't have much time.

You've been very generous to
give us this amount of time.

- Final thoughts before you go.
- Well, I think everybody has to contact

thenewparadigminstitute.org and
become a member of Citizens for Disclosure.

It's totally free.
You know, it'll hook you up into a network

where we provide daily information to you.

so you'll have reports on exactly what's going
on on the Hill, exactly what you need to do to

contact your elected representatives,
gives you all the information.

All you have-- We've got it so simple, all you
have to do is push a button, and send the

letter, a pre-drafted letter, that tells
you, them exactly what you want them to do.

You can amend the letter.
The technology makes it available for you to

amend the letter if you want.

But if you want it to be as easy as just
pushing the button and sending it,

that's the Citizens for Disclosure.

We're inviting people to come to the movie
to see Disclosure Day, you know, the

Spielberg's new movie, and then have, have
gatherings together afterwards to discuss

what you think about the movie.

we were showing free showings
of The Age of Disclosure that Dan Farah,

- produced, back in November-
- Yeah

of last year, until Farah called up and told
us to stop doing it 'cause he wasn't making

enough money.
and we said, "Look, this

is an educational piece.

We gotta show this to people." But
he said once he gets his money back, he's

willing to reconsider.
So we're trying to do that.

We want people to convene in the
high schools in their gymnasiums-

- Yes
- and show them-- we want high school

assemblies to be gathered.

and this is what our Citizens
for Disclosure are doing.

They're being very creative, in their
local congressional district, in

their electoral precincts.

they're going to the high schools
to present information.

They're going to the Kiwanis
clubs, to the Lions clubs.

You know?
The people are totally excited

about this, and they're saying, "Look, if you
just watch The Age of Disclosure, it's a, you

know, a 90-minute movie.

Here are high-level, above top secret
government officials in the United States

government telling you that this
is real, telling you that we've

got these craft, you know?

telling you, them that the
UFO people are here, you know?

and they, we need to do this."
So people need to become involved.

You know, do our job as
citizens of the United States.

Do our job as the 4% of the people on the
planet that can really compel our United

States government to reveal this information.

And to take the responsible steps of asserting
leadership to organize our planet in a way

that is not strictly to the advantage, unique
advantage of us as a country, but for our

whole human family, so that we can
establish positive relations with these

extraterrestrial beings.

And we can also, not be totally naive about
it, safeguard our own sovereignty, our own

agency over our own
decision-making here on our planet.

If we continue to display this type of level
of irresponsibility, where we're threatening

to potentially even totally mutate the genetic
material that may be of great value to

our whole galaxy, you know,
they're gonna intervene in their--

- Well, they have
- gonna lose our-

- They have before
- yeah, we're, we're gonna, we're gonna lose

our ability to make our own judgments.

so don't, don't squander this
opportunity that we still have.

In the short time that we still have
here, get busy, and contact us

at newparadigminstitute.org.

Become members of the Citizens for Disclosure,
and work with your people in the local

precinct to go door to door, just
like you're on an election campaign.

Go door to door, getting all of the,
candidates for elective office to sign the

pledge card.
If elected, they will support full, open

disclosure of the UFO
information, very specifically.

don't be, don't be way
behind the power curve here.

- Yeah.
- okay?

people, people all watch history.

- You gotta learn to make history.
- I totally agree.

And Danny, thanks so much for being the
warrior you are for an entire lifetime.

You have one of the most incredible
lives of service that I know of.

So again, Danny, thank you
so much for taking time.

- Oh, so, so far so good.
- Yeah.

- Thank you.
- Okay. Thank you, and good luck on Capitol

- Hill with all of it.
- Thank you, Regina.

- I'll see you next time.
- Okay.

- Bye, Danny.
- Okay. Bye, dear.