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I'm David Mickey Evans. I'm a
screenwriter director.
And uh
talking to my friend Dante Luna and uh
I guess I'm best known for a movie
called The Sandlot. Co-wrote it,
directed it, and I narrated it. That's
my voice on that picture.
Seems like uh a lifetime ago, but it
also seems like it was yesterday. It's
based on
um
an incident from my childhood when my
little brother jumped over a fence on
our block where we lived to get a
baseball, and a big dog, literally named
Hercules,
Hercules
bit him.
Bit him really bad. And uh
bunch of bullies on our
street laughed at him cuz they thought
that was real funny.
And that uh incident just occurred to me
one day uh
as I was driving,
and I said, "Man, that's a that's a
that's a good movie, but who wants to
see a movie about a bunch of bullies
laughing at some poor little kid?" And
so, in a nutshell, I turned all the
bullies into heroes.
And uh
sort of wrote itself after I figured
that out.
My name is Marshall Moore. I'm vice
president of marketing and operations
for Utah Film Studios. I'm also the
co-chair for the 25th anniversary uh
celebration of The Sandlot of being
filmed in Utah. We're in the community
of Glendale. It's a an intimate
neighborhood on the west side of Salt
Lake. Um
Sandlot was filmed here
26 years ago because they actually
filmed the year before the movie was was
released. We're on a street called
Navajo Street, and uh it's just a bunch
of middle-class houses uh
where these neighbors live, and this is
kind of the area of The Sandlot. This is
the only place you can really enter.
So, this is it, The Sandlot. Um
You know what it is?
It's a great place to do the movie, for
sure.
Uh
It's kind of intimate,
surrounded by homes, as you can see.
But, it's just a field. It's a field of
weeds brought to life
by the kids that played ball here in the
movie.
Oh, there's the beast.
There's the beast.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He's the one
beast.
That's cool.
Do you ever see the movie?
We just loved it. Loved it. So, and I
think a lot of people come by and take
pictures of the
Of the sandlot.
The original title of the script was The
Boys of Summer.
Um
it was I thought it was a great title.
But it turns out that a great
sportswriter by the name of Roger Kahn
had a book called The Boys of Summer.
So, we ended up not being able to use
that title.
And then when we were editing it
uh
me and Fox, the studio, you know, went
round and round with all sorts of
different titles and you know, simple is
always better, you know, most of the
time. And so,
after we cut the picture together, the
the word and the name The Sandlot was
mentioned um
you know,
a lot of times in the movie. The The
boys, the characters say it. So, it just
seemed uh
seemed like a no-brainer to call it The
Sandlot.
So, for people who've never met you
before, introduce yourself. What's your
name?
And um
you know, where are we right now?
Scott Evans.
I am a 53-year-old grandfather of five,
and we are standing on the original
sandlot
set. The original sandlot. This is where
the movie was filmed, baseball scenes.
Can you tell me the story about when you
went over the fence? Um
you know, what exactly happened that
day?
So, we were bullied as little kids cuz
we were in a new neighborhood moving
into a little area called Pacoima,
California, north uh about 15 minutes
north of downtown Los Angeles.
We just moved in and we were told to go
out and make friends.
So, we walked out the door and there was
a bunch of noise and kids sound like
they're having a great time way up the
street to the left.
So, I went over there and my brother,
oddly, who's a 2 and 1/2 years older
than me, so oddly, he didn't go with me.
He just went straight down the sidewalk.
So, the uh
the ball was pitched
and uh I wasn't playing that particular
game, but But, on the sidelines. So, so
the ball was pitched, the ball was hit,
and the ball landed in the backyard,
protected by a big dog. The actual dog
was a German Shepherd Doberman Pinscher
mix. But, at 8 years old, everything
looks big.
So, we all peeked over the wall.
And I said, "I'll get it." Because it
was the last ball we had. We were all
poor, and I was kind of being bullied.
So, we didn't Yeah, I I said, "I'll get
it." Because I can save the day. Because
once the ball is gone, the game the the
game is gone.
So, they laced their fingers together,
and boosted me up to the wall.
I landed in the backyard, and the dog
was chained up, and the ball literally
was about 3 in from the dog's nose.
But, I said, "Well,
the dog can't get it, so the dog can't
get me."
Went over. I leaned with my right hand.
I grabbed the ball. It was all slobbery.
Just like you saw in the movie.
I turned around. All the guys were
watching me.
And they saw what I didn't see. They saw
the chain break, and they screamed,
"Run!"
And then they dropped out of sight.
There was a tree kind of like a Dr.
Seuss kind of weird crooked growing tree
with a bottom branch cut off. So, I ran
for that tree.
I planted my left foot in that tree.
I reached up for the wall.
And the dog launched and grabbed me on
the left leg. While I was stumbling
home, somebody had gone and talked to my
mom
and told her what was happening. She
drove up in the 1972
VW van.
White on beige.
Sliding doors open.
And into the van, and off to the
hospital.
What's up? My name's Patrick Renna. I
play Ham Porter in The Sandlot. Thank
you, Vic. That's Victor DiMattia. He
plays Timmy Timmons.
Who do we got? We got Grant Gelt.
We got Shane Obzinsky. We got Marty
York. We got Will Horniff. We got
Brandon Adams. We got the whole gang
here. Did I miss someone? Oh, you're
killing me, Smalls. I forgot you. I'm
sorry.
We got Tom Guiry.
Only the star of the movie. The star of
the Sandlot.
One of the most famous lines ever
uttered in movie history, right?
By the great Bambino to this guy right
here 25 years ago. You know what it was?
1 2 3
YOU'RE KILLING ME, SMALLS!
COME HERE, TODD. DID YOU HEAR THE BABY
HEAR THAT?
I I like it when everyone says it.
That's really cool, man. I I hear it a
lot, though.
Have fun. Sandlot 30th anniversary
celebration here
I'm about to throw this heater out
there. Semi heater. I mean, I don't even
go for it.
It's going to
I ain't even going for it. It's going to
be lukewarm.
Long as I don't 50 cent it.
Shout out to 50.
It's New Years in Florida.
I like it.
You got a little heat on it. I like it.
It ain't the heater, but
I like it.
You don't need one. No, I'm just
playing. I don't know what I'm doing.
Oh, this is four.
We decided not to shoot it in Los
Angeles, which is sort of where it took
place in the northeastern San Fernando
Valley because it was too expensive. Um,
traffic, this, that, and the other
thing.
The only other place in the world that
looks like the Los Angeles Basin and San
Fernando Valley, which has purple
mountains all around it, is Salt Lake
City, Utah.
It's at a higher elevation.
In uh
the San Fernando, they have the San
Gorgonio mountains that go all all the
way around and and up to the Sierras,
but in uh Salt Lake City, it's called
the Wasatch Mountains. So, we said,
"Let's go there." Plus, it was a
right-to-work state. You know, people
have a great work ethic. It was
uh less expensive to shoot there. So, we
did a bunch of uh location scouting
there. Looked at a a bunch of elementary
schools. Didn't didn't didn't feel
right. Then, we went and looked at a
bunch of uh
Little League fields, which is uh it was
better, but still not. And my my
production designer, uh Chester
Kazinski, goes, "You know, we just got
to find some place and build this, you
know?" And and
we'll look around the older sections of
Salt Lake and see if we can find some
land that has some older '50s or
'60s-looking homes.
And he found that in no time. The reason
that is still there and it probably
always will be is cuz that little couple
of acres of land is owned
uh
in concert with all the homeowners
around there. For some reason, they all
have a a a piece of that land, but never
never nobody ever did anything with it.
So, you know, we made a deal with them.
There was no tree there. There was no
houses.
Uh you know, no Timmons' house, no So,
everything you see, we built. Um
the Timmons' house, the backyard, the
fences, the phone poles that you see,
the sand lot, Mr. Myrtle's house, all
that stuff we we built.
I'm Jackie Neelson, and uh this is my
home. And this is where the sand lot was
uh shot partially.
And uh Benny "The Jet" Rodriguez lived
in my house.
And uh
it was very enjoyable.
We found that block, and all those
houses had that, you know, uh '50s
suburban three-plus-two ranch house
vibe, you know? So, it was pretty pretty
easy to make that decision. Plus, those
houses are catty-cornered each other, so
filmically
it worked perfect. I think we shot there
for about a week or something.
The house that we that you see that that
Scotty is sitting outside of
is not the house we shot the interiors
in though. The interiors were shot in a
house down the street because it had a
better layout for us or whatnot. I don't
think we ever went into There was
actually a scene in the original script
written uh for the boys to be at Benny's
house watching a Dodger game or
something like that and they see Maury
Wills steal base and all that. But we
never got around to it and we had to we
had to cut it out.
Mike Vitar, Benny. Look, there's a
little something nobody really knows.
What when my little brother and I
we got beat up at home. We got bullied
and beat up on the way to school. We got
beat up at school. We got beat up on the
way back from school. And then we went
home and got beat up, okay? And that's
the way it was.
In the early '70s when we lived in the
San Fernando Valley,
the Sandlot takes place in '62 for an
entirely different reason, but '72 when
we were growing up, we were two of the
only little Caucasian kids in a three or
four block area, okay?
Most of the kids
uh were Chicano.
And where we went to elementary school
and and uh
junior high, same thing. When we wrote
the script, when I reimagined that idea,
and I said I turned all of those
uh bullies from my childhood into
heroes.
Um
he became
a really important character and figure
for me, right? Because
he's the hero,
you know?
But
he's sort of ethnically,
you know,
the guys that treated me very badly.
That was a very cathartic thing for me.
I got over a lot of hatred. I mean, you
know, those guys, man, up in my my my uh
early adulthood, they were taking up a
lot of space in my head, you know? And
that was a way for me to forgive them
or not forgive them. Forgive them, get
on with it, and and turn uh my bullies
into this one legendary hero.
Not quite sure what Freud would say
about that, but I really don't care, you
know.
Um, but Mike, listen, Mike was uh
Yes, he was as good-looking in person as
he is in the movie. He's really blessed.
He's a beautiful human being, and he was
Uh, he did all his own stunts, all his
own except for jumping off the fence.
That was a stunt man, but everything
else he did, and every baseball he hit
in that movie, he actually hit that
ball. He was really that good. I mean,
if he'd have played baseball through
college or whatever, I bet you he could
have made the majors. And he um
And he in in real life and off camera
was, and this was a blessing for a
director as well, he really was kind of
the
uh the boss, the general of all the
guys. They all looked up to him, you
know. Uh, and they all became fast
friends.
So, yeah, and he was the very first kid
of thousands and thousands that I ever
interviewed to be in that movie. He was
the very first kid I ever saw.
There's been some movies over time that
have been filmed in Utah, but not a lot
of them where people were able to really
identify with and say, "Wow, that was
um, you know, that that's homegrown
here, and that that's something The
Sandlot, um,
and it's become really kind of a cult
classic film.
And having that, you know, some some of
the quotes and things in the movie, The
Sandlot, I obviously still hear people
say it today. You know, you're killing
me, Smalls, or whatever it may be from
the film, and uh
you know, it's it's uh something that
really we take a lot of pride in. You
know, I also I
found out later after after several
years after the film came out that that
the uh I guess the swimming pool in the
in the uh film was filmed at Lorin Farr
Park, which is my
great-great-grandfather. It was Lorin
Farr, and so it's named after him, and
so I have a little bit of uh
association with it that way, too.
Uh, Wendy.
Um, Marley was the
She First of all, she was a total pro. I
think she was 17 or 18 when when we made
the picture.
And I never told the guys
who was going to play Wendy Peffercorn.
I never let them see a picture or or
introduce until the day we shot that
stuff.
So, when you see
when you see Chauncey, you know,
and you see her walking down the street,
man, that's pretty much the first time
he saw her. And and then uh
she was a total trooper,
totally professional,
totally game to to, you know, ham it up
with the oil ocean and the oiling and
all that. Absolute pro. She's had a
tremendous career. And I think
I think if memory serves,
Chauncey was like really really nervous
for weeks about doing that scene. He
constantly badgering me like, "We going
to do that scene now?" You know, you
know, when I when I cuz life guard, so
what do you think? We're going to do
that scene today, Mr. Evans? So, we
going to do tomorrow? We going to do
that scene?" Goes on and on and on. And
finally the day arrives and I go, "All
right, listen,
you know, we're going to do that scene.
So, uh
I took him aside and I and I said, and
he's I could tell he was just,
you know,
crapping himself. He was so nervous.
But he's really anxious to do it. And I
said, "Dude, I only have one direction
for you." I said, "You keep your tongue
in your mouth, pal."
He's like, "Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I
know, I I I know, I know, man." He
trying to
pretend he's cool. So, they did We got
it on the first take, you know? And it
just was pitch perfect. The timing was
perfect. And that little
that little dude goes,
"I don't know, David. I I Can we do
another one?"
You know, the way we shot it, it just
felt very realistic as if we were I was
really a lifeguard at a
local swimming pool and Chauncey and the
rest of those guys are such good actors
and I remember we only got one shot to
do the dive because then I would be
soaking wet and it you know, take
forever to get dry.
And I when I watch the movie, I laugh
because it's like the worst dive. My
legs are, you know,
it's not it's not a very pretty dive,
but you know, I did rescue the kid. It's
incredible to see the legacy that it's
left and how people just have really
embraced this movie and it seems to just
stand the test of time and it's just an
honor to be a part of it.
It was cold.
Really, really cold.
Extremely cold, that's why I'm
shivering. I remember being excited and
nervous and
waiting for that kiss for all my life up
to that point, right? You know, normally
I don't wear glasses, I have perfect
vision, but
the effect of Squints is is missed
without the glasses. I mean, it's like
such an iconic thing, so
I put them on and for the fans, for the
pictures, because uh
just seeing me with the glasses and the
hat like makes makes it all different,
you know? They get to smile and have
that moment and that's what it's all
about.
Hey, what's up, man?
Dude, I love this board.
Can you go above
I want this board signatures.
You go above your name?
Yeah, just your nickname and just kind
of watch the other names on there cuz
the paint's not dry.
Oh, yeah.
You should be good, yeah, you should be.
You know, those ones were signed.
It's the official DGK Dirty Ghetto Kids
uh Sandlot deck. Uh special to me
because I have uh skateboarded pretty
much my whole life and baseball is my
favorite sport, so two and two
goes hand in hand. We drove from
Rochester, New York, so 6 hours away. Um
when uh
up down up down on the uh pattern there
to kind of keep it even, so just got to
get Benny "The Jet" at some point and uh
it's going to be complete.
Start it off anywhere?
Anywhere.
Anywhere, that's fine.
Oh, fresh.
Go.
Go.
What up, Marshall? How are you, man?
Good to see you.
What's your name, bud?
Nico.
Nico? I like that. It's a good name.
My mom says I'm you in the movie.
You are. You look You look just like me.
Yeah. Oh, he's got the PF Flyers on. I
got mine on, too.
Yeah. PF Flyers are like this, man. When
we were kids, we were very poor.
Poorer than most of the other kids we
knew, and um
in school and all that. I mean, you
know, it might we just we struggled. And
um
we never had really nice uh shoes. I
mean, we had like
there was like a store like White Front,
which is sort of like the Target of its
day, but really down low, down rent,
man, you know.
Uh and we would go if we could afford it
from my own mom could afford it to get
school shoes for the
you know, you'll get a couple piece a
couple shirts, couple of jeans,
whatever. And we always had to get
those, you know, $2.99 cent
plain wrap uh
tennis shoes, you know, which wore out
like a month, but then we'd have to tape
them up and wear them anyway and stuff.
And uh I always remembered hearing and
seeing on TV during cartoons and
whatnot, PF Flyers, you know, shoes
guaranteed to make a kid run faster and
jump higher. And dude, we believed that.
We literally believed that if we ever
got a pair of PF Flyers, we would run
faster than anyone. They they were they
were like magic, like magic shoes. And
uh
I do not believe that we ever actually
got a pair. Might have gotten a pair of
Chuck Taylors, but usually it was just
the cheapest things uh we could find.
So, when it came time for Benny to uh
to jump that fence,
this is the only piece of childhood he's
taking with him, cuz that fence in the
sandlot is a metaphor.
Uh it's the metaphorical dividing line
between childhood and adulthood, right?
So, when he leaves the sandlot and jumps
over that fence, he's he's taking on an
obligation
and responsibility and all that stuff
that comes with having to grow up,
right? But this is
this is the only piece of childhood he
takes with him is are these shoes
guaranteed to make your kid run faster
and jump higher. So, it was a
no-brainer, you know. Cuz Chuck Taylors
were cool back in the day, but they
weren't like these.
These
These were the best ones.
You know them as their characters
and maybe as their actor names, but I'll
introduce them as they come up. First,
let's have Pat Renna. Let's hear it for
Pat Renna. Hamilton Porter, the great
Hambino.
Okay, next in line there.
Grant Gelt.
Bertram.
Bertram Grover Weeks.
Big Chief, the best.
We got him. Next in line, we have
Brandon Adams.
De Nunez.
He can throw the heater.
He still can. He He threw one last night
at the Bees game.
If you guys were there.
All right. And here's the here's the
dark horse and our favorite Sandlot uh
character
uh cast cast character is Marty York.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's hear for Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he looks pretty crappy.
He looks pretty good, but well, you know
what I'm talking about.
The guy with the glasses is next.
Let's give it up for Chauncey Leopardi.
Squints.
He just came in today.
Glad to have him.
He was here 5 years ago as well.
You guys have to come up together?
They're brothers. You know them as Timmy
and Tommy Timmons. Timmy and Tommy
Repeat Timmons, Victor DiMattia, and
Shane Obzinski. They travel everywhere
together.
And now,
I got to be honest. I'm pretty excited
about this one.
I said I did not want to do this event
unless this guy came.
5 years ago, we wanted him to come. We
didn't work it out, probably our fault,
not his. But, um
he's here with us tonight. He was
probably the most asked about where is
so-and-so when he wasn't here. But, I
said, "Guys, at the top of our list this
year to bring back along with the guys
that came before is Tom Guiry, Smalls."
Some call him the star of the movie.
Let's give it up for Tom Guiry.
Scotty Smalls.
You're killing me, right?
Shane Obzinski, I played Tommy Repeat
Timmons.
So, what do you remember about being
casted for this film?
It was actually kind of a I don't want
to say a nightmare, but I live in
Central Florida, so we
Miami is about a 4-hour drive. We drove
to Miami to audition.
When we got back, this is the day of fax
machines and like, you know, voice
machines.
So, we got back with a fax waiting for
us on the machine that said we got a
callback. So, I don't even think we
unpacked. We just turned around and
drove back to Miami.
Uh I remember I remember 30-second
audition, if not less, so I felt awful.
Uh came back home, heard nothing for 2
weeks.
Uh then I got a phone call that said,
"Your ticket's in the mail. You're going
to California."
And
the rest is history.
Shane
Shane O'Brien Zinski, he was the
smallest, littlest kid in the cast. And
I think he was only 10 or 11. Might have
turned 11 as we were shooting the movie.
So, the other guys were
you know, there's a big difference
between 10 and 11 and 12 and 13, you
know, hormones and all that sort of
thing.
Uh
I really never had to say much to Shane.
It was just like, "Dude, you know,
Tommy's going to say Timmy's going to
say something and you and you repeat
it." And he just had a great sense of of
comic timing. He was a sweet, sweet kid
and he is to this day. He's just
he's sweet as pie and I mean that in a
really, really complimentary way.
In the beginning, we were all trying out
for different roles. They were trying to
figure out who was going to play who and
there was an age difference originally.
They wanted uh
younger kids and they fired all these
young kids.
They got older kids. It was it was
bizarre. Originally, I was reading for
Tommy. I'm sorry. Uh
Uh yeah, small uh smalls. And uh
We tried that for a little bit and it
didn't work and then
Repeat came along and that that's what
they thought I was best for and
honestly, that was the easiest for me
cuz it was easy script.
But uh it was good cuz I was the
youngest, the shortest and
that's the role I needed to fill for to
make the movie. So, it was it was a
pleasure.
What do you remember about stepping on
this field for the first time?
Right back here where you can't Okay,
yeah, you can't see. That was my house.
That was the the Timmons house right
here. And right behind me directly was
where Mr. Myrtle's house was. So, when
we stepped on the field, I believe we
came up from behind the first play home
home base. There was an alley over here.
I know you can't see. I'm pointing, but
and
we walked up and we're like, "Oh, this
is pretty cool." And there's these
houses and they looked real, you know,
we were like, "This is
This is where we're going to spend our
summer. This is pretty cool."
The crazy part is when you come back
here 20 years later and then 25 years
later and see what it's turned into. And
that's when you get the goosebumps and
that's when you Make sure your glasses
are on so no one knows you're tearing
up.
Victor.
Victor.
He's another guy that hasn't changed
much. That kid had the greatest smile
and he was always he just like
I'm sure
he's had a life like the rest of us, but
man, he just seems to coast. You know,
he's just got one of those like
perennially It's like in his genes. He's
always happy and smiling, you know, so
he was always a pleasure to be around.
He is to this day. He's like that.
They interview kids from all over the
country, man. So, I mean, it was it was
intense. We did uh
a round several rounds of callbacks and
stuff and then we they had us out there
playing baseball and everything. It was
it was wild. Just the fact that 25 years
later I mean, it's what you hope for as
an actor, you know, that you do
something that's going to sustain this
long, resonate with people. It's really
amazing. It's you know, it's very
humbling that we get so much love
everywhere we go and you know, fans just
come out and line up and wait hours just
to you know, get an autograph or a
picture. I mean, it's it's unbelievable.
It's everything that you want to do as
an actor. I remember the first time
going in the tree house and that was
really cool and all the old toys from
the period from the '60s and all that
kind of stuff. I mean, that was cool. I
remember that for sure.
The tree is an interesting story because
uh
we had absolutely no idea where the hell
we were going to get a tree. We needed a
really big old oak tree, you know, like
a 100 years old, 200 years old,
something like that. And to buy
something like that was many hundreds of
thousands of dollars because, you know,
cuz it's a 200-year-old specimen tree,
right? We had no no money like that. And
weirdly enough, this is one of these
really amazing,
you know, kismet moments that happened
on that show.
Is uh
Chester was coming to work one day early
in the morning and he's going by a big
a house that was had been built 150 200
years ago or something. This really old
historic home.
Uh by some Mormon pioneers. Okay? In
Salt In Salt Lake. And then there's a
giant oak tree next to it, like really
close to the house, and a man was out
there starting up a chainsaw.
He's going to cut it down, right? This
this historic oak. And so Chester hit
the brakes in the car, runs up and goes,
"Excuse me, excuse me, what are you
doing?"
He goes, "I'm cutting down this tree.
You know, it's been here for, you know,
however many 150 years and it's it's
messing up the foundation of my house."
And Chester goes, "Can I have it?"
He goes, "What, the tree?" And the guy
goes, "Yeah. Just get it out of here."
He goes, "Well, I'll be back, you know,
in a few days." So, we had to go get two
and connect them together, 50-ft flatbed
trailers,
and a big old, you know, truck,
a semi rig,
called the phone company and the power
company and they had to take the phone
and power lines off the streets that we
were going through to get to the Sam lot
with this gigantic crane. So, they did
all that for us and uh
we got a big crane, we dug a gigantic
hole and put something like, oh my god,
it must have been 15 20 cubic yards of
cement in the ground to hold this thing
up. And then they uh
took every leaf off that tree and put on
millions and millions of silk leaves so
that it would stay green for the entire
time that we were shooting the movie.
And then around that they built the
the uh
tree house and stuff.
A lot of stuff like that happened on
that movie, man.
Great vacuum cleaner explosion of 1993.
Uh
I just remember they had like three
different makeup artists putting dirt
and you know, it was it was a powder,
right? Makeup powder, all the different
colors mixed together to look like a
dirt kind of thing. And they were
stuffing it in my pockets and just, you
know, anywhere they could get it so that
every time I took a step, there'd be
that big cloud, you know, coming out and
it worked. It looked It came across It
looked really good, but it was miserable
getting all that stuff clean.
Tommy Gairy.
Tommy Gairy. Look it, first of all, I'm
just going to say this up front. Every
one of these guys is a solid young man.
Well, they They're 30-something now, but
I mean, when we worked together way back
in the day, they were all an absolute
blast to work with. They were
well-behaved when they needed to be
well-behaved, but they were all 12 and
13, so, you know, it was like herding
squirrels, you know, sometimes.
But, Tommy, the thing with Tommy is that
when
he was not the goof or dork that Scotty
Smalls is.
When that kid was like a black belt in
karate in 1992, okay? He was tough as
nails. He was from Jersey, you know, you
wouldn't want to mess with him. But, he
was such a good listener and a good
actor that he he he played a dork really
well.
NO WAY!
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT HAT?
I ACTUALLY FOUND IT IN MY GARDEN THIS
MORNING.
REALLY?
That's the coolest, man. That's an
awesome hat.
Don't be a goofball.
I thought that was a real hat for a sec.
That's insane, dude. Well, now you know
where to get it.
Hey Todd, you try it on.
Can I put it on?
You got it.
Okay, you want this in the trailer?
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh my god. Welcome back.
I'm back, baby.
Trout.
This looks more like a
Yeah, it's a trout.
In uh the early '70s, my little brother
and I I was probably
maybe 10 years old. He was probably
eight, maybe nine and 11, 10 and eight,
right right around in there. So, must
have been about 1972, '73, something
like that.
We lived in the northeastern San
Fernando Valley, but all of our cousins
and aunts and uncles
our paternal grandparents lived back in
Pennsylvania and in New Jersey in Point
Pleasant, which is a
Well, at the time I've never I haven't
been there in many, many, many years,
but it was this really cool right on the
ocean uh
and and they had canals, you know, where
you have houses with a boat dock and
stuff like that, like here in Florida.
And uh when we went there, our
grandfather was pretty old at the time.
He had a little boat, you know, maybe
like a little 20-ft day runner boat.
And we my brother and I were there and
our cousin Evan
and I think his little sister. But
anyway, and my mom uh drove us back
there all the way across country in a
1972 VW bus with a 200-lb St. Bernard,
okay? It was hysterical.
Uh we camped at KOA campgrounds and all
that. It took a long time to get there
cuz you know, those old VWs don't go
very fast. Point of the matter is when
we got there, our grandfather
got us, me and my brother and our
cousin, all these super long billed
fishing caps. And they had these like
little trouts or snappers or whatever
they were on there. And we just thought
we were, you know, freaking Hemingway
man. We were going to go out and catch
marlin and all that kind of crap. And
and we never took these off and we had
them forever. And uh we caught some
fish. We caught a lot of flounder, you
know, just bottom feeders and stuff like
that. Big ones. And uh that was one of
the best memories my brother and I have
of our childhood. And so
it's it's not said in The Sandlot, but
Scotty's supposed to have moved
to the valley
from
you know, either Pennsylvania or New
Jersey, whatever. So, when the time came
to talk about his costuming, uh Grania
Preston, my my uh
costume designer, I told her that story
and I I said, "You got to find me a
long-billed fishing cap and I want you
to put a trout on that thing."
So, that when he goes to the sandlot and
everybody else has got like Boston, KC,
LA, he's got a freaking trout, you know?
And
you know, that became a big deal, man.
A lot of people loved it.
My name is Tommy Guiry. I played Scotty
Smalls in The Sandlot.
I remember it was a long process. I
mean, they were going through a lot of
different people. And
I think I didn't make the first cut on
the screen test, but they brought me
back in. And
then I after my second screen test, I
got the part.
What what do you remember about stepping
foot on on the field for the first time?
I remember thinking it was so big. It
was huge.
And now coming back as as an adult, it
doesn't look as big as it was.
But it brought back a lot of memories,
you know?
And it was kind of surreal coming back
after 25 years.
I don't think we ever thought
that we'd be, you know,
we never thought that this movie was
going to make the kind of impact that it
made. I love the character of Smalls.
You know, I uh he's a lot different than
me.
Um he's a little bit
more timid, a little bit more shy, a
little bit more scared.
Uh always thinking about
He's the kind of person who thinks
before he says things and thinks before
he does things. Where I tend to not do
that sometimes.
Well, I stuck with the acting. I've done
a lot of films. Uh
through from the age 18 to my mid-20s, I
did a lot of films.
Um
but being an actor, there's never any
peace of mind, you know what I mean? You
never know when you're going to get your
next paycheck. So, it's kind of like a
roller coaster. Goes up and then goes
down. Goes up and goes down. So, you
just kind of ride it out and
hopefully get more work.
But uh I love doing it. So, I'm I'm in
for the long haul. I'm in for the ride.
All right. I just like doing
the work.
But, I still have to feed my kids and
pay mortgage payments, so I always find
something to do to feed my kids and
pay the mortgage.
Marty
you know, contrary to what Marty is now
cuz he's a big beast of a guy. He was
this little skinny kid and uh
he had a lot of quirky things like a
funny laugh that he go "Hey hey hey hey
hey." You know? And that wasn't in the
script, but I used everything I could
that that
that came natural for him, you know? And
he he did great and he loved doing his
own stunts. Oh my god.
My name's Marty York. I played
Yeah-Yeah.
I was cast in The Sandlot back in 1992
after I moved here from Sacramento,
California.
And I was originally cast as Bertram, so
I was cast as another character in the
film
who was a tall skinny kid in the movie.
They actually came to me during practice
when we're practicing baseball and they
said, "Hey, you don't really fit the
part of Bertram. We want you to reread
for this other character called
Yeah-Yeah."
So, he was a bigger character in the
film. I read this whole script and I was
like, "All right, yeah."
So, they said, "You need to bring energy
to the table." So, I remember I walked
into the office. The producer, the
director, David Mickey Evans was there.
He said, "They said you got you need to
bring energy to this." So, my mom I
remember my mom gave me a Hershey's bar
before I walked in and said, "Go in
there. Get some energy. Get some sugar
in your system." So, I walked in the
room
and by the time I was done with my
audition, the director actually the
producer everyone stood up, started
clapping and I was like, "I knew I was
Yeah-Yeah at that point."
What I remember about stepping on the
field was
just I mean, when you're a kid
everything's huge. So, like I remember
seeing this field as a huge field. I
think the the coolest thing about
stepping on the field was the treehouse
cuz that was already built. So, that
treehouse that you see in the movie,
it's that that's part of that was a
sound stage when he's telling the story
of the beast, but the actual treehouse
in the movie that you see that explodes,
that was actually filmed right here. And
they built a two-story No, it was
three-story tree house that had poles
you could slide down and so I spent all
my time up there, you know, sliding down
the poles and it had pulleys and it had
all this cool stuff attached to it. So,
that was like one of the funnest parts
of doing that.
When you come back over the fence
after trying to get the ball from the
beast and you drop it, first of all, you
you blew it, man. You had it in your
hand and you dropped it. But anyway,
then you do the the lips thing.
Was that a ad-lib? Yeah.
What was the decision? Was that in the
script or did you just do that?
That wasn't in the script. That actually
I used to watch Bugs Bunny cartoons when
I was a kid. And every time, you know,
Bugs Bunny would run away, he'd go
So, I
I threw that in there and David was
like, "What was that? That's not in the
script." And I said, he said, "But I
like it." And it ended up being in the
movie.
It was hilarious.
Um Bertram, he was gung ho the whole
time. Grant was so good. And he was one
of those kids that
the character didn't have too many
lines, but we just found things for him
to say. Uh uh and I just throw it as the
camera's rolling, throw it at him and he
just he'd feed it back really great.
Great. He was a stand-up guy. They're
all stand-up.
What I really remember was not being
cast in the movie.
I auditioned for the role of Smalls and
then didn't hear anything back for
months and months and months. Then I got
a call to come in and reread for Bertram
and within 3 days I was cast and on a
plane to Salt Lake City. So, I remember
not getting it and then showing up here.
Yeah, and the movie's really special,
man. It's a big part of American pop
culture. Um
what's your relationship with the
character and after 25 years, like what
what's your relationship with Bertram?
You know,
I think my relationship with Bertram is
the fact that without realizing it, I am
Bertram. I think that was part of the
magic of the movie is that we are these
kids and David, the director, had
characters in mind, but he picked the
kids, not the characters, I think. So,
now going back and watching the film as
an adult, I'm seeing a lot of my own
traits in this
re-looking at Bertram. So,
it's pretty interesting to go back and
look at it now.
What was your uh favorite part to shoot
in this movie?
Uh well, the whole thing was incredible.
It was really just like summer camp for
all of us, running around on this field
all summer long playing baseball, giving
each other a hard time. But, I think uh
favorite scene to film
was either the 4th of July sequence,
being out here under the lights, or the
uh carnival sequence, uh celebrating the
win against those uh those terrible
Tigers.
So,
my little brother my little brother,
when he was about four,
uh we watched The Sandlot so much that
we went to church and the primary
teacher in church pulled out a big pack
of chewing gum.
And at 4 years old, he said, "Cha!"
in church. And the guy was like, "What
is going on here?" But, I promised my
daughter.
Yeah, a bad influence. I'm sorry about
that, Adam.
After I After I left acting, I'd always
had a deep love for music, uh but was
never committed enough to be a musician.
So, being on the business side of music,
being able to work with artists,
represent artists, help them deliver
their creative and bring their vision
out into the world has been a really
special thing. And I think uh
growing up on the other side of the
camera has really allowed me to connect
with artists uh in a way that I probably
wouldn't have been able to before.
Brandon Adams, Brandon, you know,
of all the guys
from from how they were in their
personalities when they were kids till
they are now, I think Brandon is the one
who's changed the least. He was super
polite and very cool,
very, you know, easygoing man. And I've
hung around with him in the last few
years on these tours, the dude is still
totally cool and really easygoing, you
know? He's got a great sense of humor.
My name is Brandon Adams, and I played
Kenny DeNunez.
I was one of the last ones cast. Um
I don't think there was too many other
guys up for my part, man. So, I kind of
I kind of had an easy way up in there.
But uh then they took us all and put us
together.
They had different groups of guys just
to see how they meshed together and uh
turned out to be us. I didn't do too
much uh pitching after the film, man,
but it was
it was cool just learning about that
position, you know what I mean, and
training to do that every day, the
regiment that I had to do.
Cuz I was no pitcher, bro, but you know,
they they put me in there. Uh almost
broke a couple cameras, but you know, I
came out
we did a whole baseball training camp.
Then we came up here, man, and we just
took we just took the field. I just took
the mound, man, and it was just all it
was all fun, no work. You know? And I
mean, the Nunez, you know, it's a part
that I played, but I feel like every
part that you do play is a little part
of you, too. And uh that's definitely
something that I'm carrying with me even
25 years later, you know, people love
the movie. I'm glad to see that it's
transcending generations, you know, from
one on down to the next. And uh man, I'm
just I feel blessed to be a part of it,
you know?
This particular uh
shot,
some of this I think is uh
is photo Well, it wasn't Photoshop, they
didn't have that at the time, but uh I'm
compiled, if you will. Uh but it looks
really good. It always did look good.
And uh I mean, I really liked it. I
mean, I the marketing department at Fox
is I work for every studio in Hollywood
and and they really do have
if not the best, one of the best
marketing departments. And they they
mocked this up for me. And I loved it
because, you know, he is the
neighborhood legend, you know, and these
are all his buddies, and they're all
holding him up. And uh
even though he these are the two
heroes or protagonists of the movie, I
mean, this is the guy that becomes the
legend, sort of, you know, like Babe
Ruth was a legend. So, I I like this a
lot. Um
the original theatrical motion picture
in the theaters
uh
poster was different.
It was just a blue background
that said the sandlot had a big baseball
bat
and all the kids hands holding the
baseball bat. Remember doing that when
you were a kid, right? And then the last
hand on the top is the beast paw.
That is to my in my mind one of the best
movie posters in the history of mankind.
But this one really resonates with the
people because that's all the guys that
people love about this film. I mean that
you know,
it was smart, simple, no-brainer, put
them all on the on the thing and they're
all cheering and laughing and you know,
it just tells you
you're going to watch this movie and
you're going to have a good time and
come away feeling good, you know.
It has been great being back here, but I
got to be honest, there's one thing
that's
kind of ruining the moment for me. I
don't know if you guys know, but there's
a certain someone
that was here 25 years ago. He wasn't
invited then and he's not invited now.
He might go by the name
You want to say it?
Oh, no.
He might go by the name of Phillips.
Where are you tough guy?
What are you scared?
Oh, I see how it is. What's going on?
Why don't you come out here?
I haven't seen you in 25 years.
You look good, man.
Thank you. Really, I like
Have you been Have you been working out?
A little bit.
Yeah.
Maybe like three days a week. What about
you?
Yeah, it's so good to Let's hug this
out. I love you.
It's Phillips everybody.
Good to see you guys.
Well, Hornuff is Phillips. Yeah, I
remember well. He
He came in and just killed it, you know.
I didn't have to tell him much of
anything. Well was a sweet kid and he
really got into into that cuss-out.
is Will Hornuff and I played the the
bully, the leader of the the rich team
Phillips in The Sandlot. One of the
films I never actually auditioned for. I
actually got the part in another film
called A Far Off Place that they went
older in the roles. And so kind of like
as a consolation they said, "Hey, you
want to you want to do this film called
The Sandlot?" And I was like, "Sure." I
literally did I know it turned out to be
a classic film.
How long did it take you guys to make
that scene? That one iconic scene that
everyone knows every word to.
About a week. Yeah, it took us a week.
We were cracking each other up.
Now, you know what's funny about that
scene is
originally it was written for Benny.
He was supposed to face off with Will,
with Phillips, but I think because we
had already filmed the movie, we're
already about probably halfway through
or something. Benny sort of became this
legend already and he was like, you
know, the hero. So I don't think the
director wanted the hero to say
butt-sniffer, you know.
So he said, "You know who could say
butt-sniffer? Ham."
You know, at that point in my life I was
a a bit scrawny for my age and small and
short. And I had my share of bullies. So
I just kind of just drew from all the
experiences that I had because and
everybody had that kind of person in
their life and I just kind of said,
"Hey, let me just do my the best job
kind of imitating that." And I just went
out there and just did, you know, I
guess my I kind of drew from all my own
experiences being a short scrawny kid
and having like that bully guy come up
to you and trash talk you and give you
problems. And it was just a blast coming
out there and doing that. I was about 12
years old, I think. And I remember
coming here and seeing this this field
that you just see nothing and you walk
down this this kind of alley and all of
a sudden it opens up into this amazing
sandlot field and seeing all the guys
together joking around and I remember
getting there and you know, shooting had
already been going on for a while and
just them kind of being extremely
friendly to me, welcoming me and uh just
kind of felt like part of the team even
though I was on the other team and uh it
was just so great because at that period
of time it was just a great you know,
community and a great sense of community
on the set and a great part in history,
you know, for all of us and uh it was
just a real blast seeing the kind of
camaraderie everybody we had, you know,
between the guys on the team and and
even us the guys on the other team as
well.
If you could have one prop from the
movie or maybe you guys did take a prop
to keep it but if you could keep one
prop what would it be?
Easy, my KC Monarchs hat.
That was a baller hat, the KC Monarchs
I don't know what happened to that hat.
That's that's vintage, that's like $85
right now.
If you go and buy that thing. I'm not
kidding that.
The the vintage look is back and that
would have made a that would have been
good.
But I wish I could find that one.
The one you actually used, yeah. What
about you?
I actually got to keep my LA hat and
I've got that somewhere but I think if I
could go back I'd have to keep that bag
of Big Chew.
The best cuz it's the best, right?
Patrick?
Uh I'd probably want to find that
s'more, the half eaten s'more and frame
it, get Tom to sign it.
I think I ate it, bro.
You ate the whole thing?
Pretty sure, yeah.
Cuz they're good, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah.
When you finally figured it out they're
really good, I know.
Uh I kept the uh harness that I went
over the the uh the fence with. They
lifted me. I actually have that at my
mom's house. It's a fiberglass harness.
For real? That's terrific.
I have that, yes.
What prop for you, Chauncey?
Uh my glasses. Woah woah woah.
I don't have them and I need to.
I have them.
You have the glasses?
Yeah, I stole them. So I did and I'm not
giving them back.
I'm okay. Class action.
They're not worth $85. They're worth
like $85,000.
I
I meant to you know what I
All right.
Uh Victor would
Oh, I kept uh one of the vacuum cleaners
that that blew up
from the great uh the great vacuum
cleaner explosion in '93. You remember
that?
'93.
Right over here, right?
Nah, I I wish I would have kept my
glove. It was a cool it was like a
vintage, you know, '60s era glove and I
wish I would have kept that.
How about you, Shane?
Uh
I actually I wish I could have kept some
of the clothes, not cuz I could still
wear them, but just everyone asks us
about the clothes the costumes we wore
back then. So, having some of those
would be really cool. I actually do have
some of the leaves from the tree that
the tree house was in. They're in my
kitchen.
So, those are pretty cool.
Tom?
I want my trap cap back.
It's in the Louisville Slugger Museum.
I want it back. I think we're all going
to dress in black and break into the
Louisville Slugger Museum.
Law Four. San Law Four.
to steal back the trap cap. I need it.
Mission impossible.
Will?
I want my bike.
The Schwinn.
I want my bike. It'd be great.
Well, you know, I met someone the other
day that said they own your bike. Like
real Yeah, they actually they bought it
and they have it. What a cool thing to
own. That's awesome. We messed up. We
didn't steal enough stuff from the set.
Pat Rena. Pat was my go-to guy.
Pat um
like I think I said in the interview uh
that that that scene when he's catching
against the Little League players and
he's he's you know, razing them all with
that
stuff from behind the plate. That's all
ad-lib. I would think that up as the
cameras rolling and fired at him and
he'd fire it right back. You know,
anytime I had a
an issue like uh man, I don't know I got
a piece of trouble. I don't know what to
do. I just said get bring me Pat, you
know, and he was my go-to guy.
My name's Patrick Renna and I played
Hamilton Porter in the sandlot.
When I got cast in the movie,
everyone else had actually already been
cast. I was the last one
uh or the second to last, one of the
last, but I uh it was so fast because
they were ready to shoot, so I just had
one audition with the director and then
the next day I got a call saying he
wants me to meet all the other guys, so
uh you know, they kind of said don't
think that you have it cuz you don't
yet, but uh he really, you know, as long
as you get along with all the other
guys, then the job's yours, so I had to,
you know, muscle them into being nice to
me, you know? I guess I feel like
everyone's got a little ham in them,
right? So, uh I think even myself I have
a a little of that ham character in me,
the loudmouth, the you know, showoff or
whatever, you know? The first scene that
we shot was the pickle scene at school.
Uh so, that I remember that scene very
well, but I don't really remember the
first time coming on the sandlot,
probably because we spent
so much time on the sandlot that it's
all a bit of a blur, you know? There's
not like one moment, but I do remember
coming back 25 years later and that's
that's pretty awesome.
Squints,
can I take a picture of you?
Yes, you can, buddy.
Come on up.
All right, we have one super fan here
that has a question. We need Will uh
Curtis Helmick to come up here. I've
told I've been told Curtis is here.
This question is actually for my
girlfriend Leslie.
I love you more than words can say right
now.
Leslie, will you marry me?
This is going to
Will you marry me?
I I think that's a yes.
I probably seen more fan Sandlot fan art
than anybody in the world. And I mean
everything from people getting uh
uh squints when he's grinning tattoos,
you know. Uh another guy had a Bambino
one. Guy just sent me one the other day
on Facebook where he got heroes get
remembered but legends never die on his
on his forearm, you know. It never ends,
man. It's just uh it's a phenomenon.
I could not be more grateful.
Yeah, this one I'm just putting my name
on. I don't want to mess it up, dude.
The Sandlot's been called a lot of
things, and this is not me talking. This
is just, you know, Sports Illustrated,
Bleacher Seats. I mean, you name it. Um
the the late great Roger Ebert, um the
greatest baseball movie they ever made
it's been called it's been called the
the best summer movie of all time. And
another one that I only recently found
out about it was voted, not sure where
this was, but it it was a big deal, the
most American movie ever made. Not the
best movie ever made in America, the
best American movie ever made. Um
just that it reflects to to to have that
somebody say that is kind of astounding,
you know?
Because
you know, America there's there's
there's what America means and then
there's what America means to everybody
and everybody individually. So, what is
that? Opportunity?
Um
you know, the Sandlot's from a simpler
time. There was good and bad, whatnot.
Um
but that it's
Dude. That it That ever got into the
theaters, I couldn't believe it. And
then everything after that was gravy,
you know, and
it it it blew through the VHS days and
then into it just blew up even bigger,
the DVD days. And now on streaming and
all that. And now I get to get to make a
prequel to it.
Uh it takes place in 1950.
It's a
It's certainly its own little franchise,
but there's never any way to know that
when you're doing it. You know, I made
this movie for me.
You know, and it turns out for whatever
reason, and I don't question it. If I
like it, seems like other people
you know, whatever I do, whatever I
write, whatever, if I end up liking it,
it seems like other people end up liking
it. So, I'm blessed that way. Uh but
that it's endured and that it means so
much to so many people, I've been told
thousands and thousands of times.
There's one lady in Arkansas at a AAA
park when during the 20th anniversary.
She had her three boys with her.
They're probably like 12, 9, and 7,
something like that, you know, young
young guys. They all had the baseball
mitts and their baseball mitts and
stuff. And she was almost in tears and
she said, "I've waited a long time to
tell you this." And signed all their
stuff and she says, "It's not just a
movie." And I'm saying, "Okay."
I get a lot of this. "Mr. Evans, you
don't understand."
I was like, "Okay, what don't I
understand?" And
she says, "It's not just a movie. My
kids grew up with them, the characters,
and the characters are like their
brothers that taught them all the good
lessons they needed to know."
I don't know
I don't know what other directors or
writers get, but I can't imagine
anything better than that, you know.
Working with David was fantastic, and he
had a lot on his plate when we're making
this film.
Um I know even personally, I never knew
but his
his newborn was very sick, and he had to
fly back and forth from California to
Utah while we're doing it. And then he's
trying to wrangle nine kids, you know,
nine 11-year-old kids.
Uh
It was just a lot, you know, directing
the film and trying to juggle
everything. And he knocked it out of the
park, man. I mean, he did a great job.
He's a very talented writer, very
patient guy.
Um and he worked so well. I mean, even
as a kid, even being my first movie,
he worked really well. And it's If you
get a director that can work well with
actors, it's it's fantastic.
Um and he
as a
as a child actor, it's you know, it's
hard.
Sometimes it can get hard as a director
to to get what you want out of
the child actor, you know, but he he was
able to do it and he was able to explain
it and talk to you.
I just think he was probably one of the
most talented guys around.
He's a genius and you know, we obviously
the cast has a little bit to do with it
and we did a good job, but he really has
the most He can uh
you know, share in the most accolades
for it because this is his movie and
he's the man and
you know, just even talking to him and
he's a genius and he's brilliant and
he uh he really captured he captured
something special that means a lot to
people, so that's awesome.
When Walt Disney built Disneyland,
everybody in the world wanted to go
there. Okay?
Uh
people think he was born and raised in
Marceline, Missouri, and he wasn't. He
only lived there for a very short time
during his childhood.
And it was
uh
this little
Main Street, you know, town early 1900s,
all that. Lived on a farm and all that
sort of thing. When he built Disneyland,
he built Main Street, USA.
And there's a lot of influences from
that little town's Main Street. And
somebody was walking with him, some big
dignitary from another country. I can't
remember who it was. And he says, "Well,
Mr. Disney," as he's looking, you know,
at the shops and the
you know, the architecture from the
early 1900s. He says, "You You You You
You got it. This is just the way it
was." And And Disney said, "No, it's
not. It's the way it should have been."
And for me, that's the sandlot and it'll
always mean that to me is that's not the
way my childhood was dude. My childhood
was really really bad rough, you know?
But I, you know, look as an artist um I
think you'll agree
we have a time machine. You know,
whether that's a piece of paper and a
pencil or computer or whatever. Um
I can change history and I did. And I
did it for the better. You know, I'm not
saying I don't want to remember my
childhood. I remember every second of
it.
I wish it had been uh different. And I
got the great blessing and the great
opportunity
to go actually remake it.
You know?
So
it'll always mean that to me.
That was absolutely amazing.
There you go, dude.
All truth.
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