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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,460 Okay, we're all set. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,760 We're rolling. 3 00:00:06,820 --> 00:00:07,820 Rock and roll. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,680 The nature of the inquiry was far beyond anything else any of us had worked on 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,500 before, far beyond a normal homicide inquiry. 6 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:24,280 And the government said, of the day, said, whatever you need, just ask the 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:30,860 question. And I think I might have related to you about the photocopier fax 8 00:00:30,860 --> 00:00:32,780 machine. Did I tell you that story? 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,540 One day, a fax photocopier machine turned up, a brand new one. 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:46,420 Now, in 1985, we didn't have any faxes or photocopiers, 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,660 and it was about as big as this table, and it was wrapped with plastic, and we 12 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:53,500 were like, wow, that is so awesome. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Two of my police friends came up to me and they said, we heard you guys have 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,740 got a photocopier and fax machine. I went, yeah. 15 00:01:02,350 --> 00:01:05,250 And they said, can we see it? And I said, yeah, come on. 16 00:01:05,630 --> 00:01:10,290 And we walked around it and they were looking at it and going, wow, that is so 17 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:12,390 cool. And they went, how does it go? 18 00:01:14,410 --> 00:01:18,610 And I said, I don't know. None of us knew how to work it. 19 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:23,990 So it sat there for months. I don't know if it ever got used. But we were very 20 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:28,910 proud as an inquiry to actually own a fax photocopier machine. 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,200 The resources that were given to that inquiry were spectacular. 22 00:01:36,740 --> 00:01:38,940 With that, there was a certain pressure. 23 00:01:40,580 --> 00:01:43,400 We were dealing with a serious crime. 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,420 We had to catch who did it. 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,200 In New Zealand tonight, police are launching a major investigation into the 26 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,140 explosions aboard the Rainbow Warrior. 27 00:01:59,490 --> 00:02:01,450 Consider this to be a scandal of the nuclear age. 28 00:02:02,710 --> 00:02:03,810 This was no accident. 29 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:09,910 Somebody, somewhere, decided they wanted to blow up our boat. 30 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:14,790 Things like this just don't happen in New Zealand. 31 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:18,710 When you're powerful, you don't have to pay for your crimes. 32 00:02:21,930 --> 00:02:23,450 Murderers can't go unpunished. 33 00:02:23,690 --> 00:02:24,690 They've got to be exposed. 34 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,140 We were one little South Pacific country. 35 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,480 We'd never had a crime like that. It was just huge. 36 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,800 The sinking of the Rainbow Warrior on the Auckland waterfront has now touched 37 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,700 off a police inquiry on a scale never seen in this country before. 38 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:05,500 I'd like to welcome you to Operation Rainbow. 39 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:11,340 The man put in charge of the inquiry was Detective Superintendent Alan Galbraith, 40 00:03:11,540 --> 00:03:15,080 a Dallas Scotsman, very good leader. 41 00:03:17,210 --> 00:03:22,770 As soon as it became known that this had been sabotaged, the investigation really 42 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:23,769 got ramped up. 43 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:26,030 The most important of my police career. 44 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:31,350 Are you optimistic of bringing the people who bombed the Rainbow Warrior to 45 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:32,350 justice? 46 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:35,570 Oh yes, we're very optimistic that we'll be successful in the end. 47 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:38,030 Why are you so optimistic? 48 00:03:38,670 --> 00:03:40,410 Well, giving it everything we've got. 49 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:48,160 Operation Rainbow Headquarters, the Rainbow Squad, is handling a wide range 50 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,160 of inquiries. 51 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,980 Very quickly, Alan put together a huge team of detectives. 52 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,540 One of them was Detective Inspector Morris Whittam, a very clever guy. 53 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:04,560 We had a lot of staff from out of town, seconded to Auckland, just solely to 54 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,640 boost our numbers. 55 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:07,960 We were 140 officers at one stage. 56 00:04:08,660 --> 00:04:11,960 Terry Batchita was my detective sergeant. 57 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:16,390 He was a bit of a feared man in criminal circles back in those days, tremendously 58 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:19,570 strong. From the police department, can you open the door, please? 59 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:24,430 We realised at one point the eyes of the world were upon little old New Zealand. 60 00:04:24,690 --> 00:04:26,690 I mean, some people hadn't even heard of New Zealand. 61 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:30,610 And that in itself was a motivation. 62 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:35,250 And it was absolutely critical for everyone to find out who did it. 63 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,800 We were suddenly thrown into one of the biggest police inquiries New Zealand has 64 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,800 ever seen. 65 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,280 The inevitable speculation on who could be responsible has begun. 66 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,680 The list of enemies Greenpeace has made over the years is long. 67 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,900 Your guess is sort of mine. 68 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:03,480 Could be the Russians, could be the Chinese, could be the French, could be 69 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,580 the Americans, could be anyone. 70 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:16,020 One possible clue arrived by post. 71 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,620 A leaflet purporting to come from veterans of Vietnam and Africa 72 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:24,960 threatened a number of left-wing and liberal groups with the words, we'll 73 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,320 crude you all like the Rainbow Warrior. 74 00:05:29,340 --> 00:05:34,120 Overseas organisations, foreign countries, they were all possible 75 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,120 suspects. 76 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,180 We even had a couple of unusual characters who were in Auckland at the 77 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:40,180 time. 78 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:44,720 I remember one was an American and he was particularly anti-Greenpeace. He was 79 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 pro-nuclear and he had been seen in Auckland. 80 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:56,600 The bombing obviously required an explosive device. 81 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,700 Well, in New Zealand, we've got a lot of rural activity and there's a lot of 82 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:03,700 explosives used. 83 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,560 A couple of sticks of gelignite might be quite handy if I had to. 84 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:14,010 move a little hill or change the direction of a riverside. 85 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:18,750 There's a lot of things being blown up all around the place. 86 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:24,870 What are your views at the moment as to the validity, if you like, of the Better 87 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:26,130 Dead Than Red document? 88 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:29,590 Do you think there's any chance that the people who sent that did in fact do it? 89 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:30,870 I don't know. 90 00:06:31,910 --> 00:06:37,770 At this point, we didn't know why, who or how. 91 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,620 Have you got any leads which give you any hope at all? 92 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:46,520 Well, there's always hope. 93 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,200 The area is still cordoned off to the public, but from the other side of the 94 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,380 pier one can clearly see the partly sunken ship. 95 00:06:57,180 --> 00:07:01,000 Stunned Greenpeace members say the vessel was priceless, but right now 96 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,240 they're still mourning for their dead colleague who went down with the vessel. 97 00:07:05,290 --> 00:07:09,370 It was the first thing that led the news on the radio, on the television. 98 00:07:10,170 --> 00:07:14,690 There was, you know, a little space to kind of let things process. 99 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:23,130 But we had a... It wasn't a service, it was just some 100 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:29,930 time with Fernando in a coffin in a 101 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:32,010 church in Auckland. 102 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:35,300 Just us. 103 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,400 It was all so unreal at that point. 104 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:44,800 We had an hour. 105 00:07:46,060 --> 00:07:50,440 At the end of the hour, the priest or whatever he was came in and said, gosh, 106 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,480 you got to go. I got to make room for the next group. 107 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,140 And we had to physically pick up this coffin and walk it out the door. And 108 00:07:57,140 --> 00:08:00,720 that's when the weight of the world sank down on my shoulders and I think 109 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,720 everybody else's. 110 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:03,640 Because then it was, 111 00:08:05,070 --> 00:08:10,510 100% sure they were picking up the body of a dead friend and presenting him on 112 00:08:10,510 --> 00:08:11,510 his last trip. 113 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:13,290 And it was rough. 114 00:08:22,850 --> 00:08:25,570 He and I did watch together a couple of times. 115 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:28,930 Those kids were young. 116 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:31,630 He talked about them quite a bit. 117 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:34,110 Yeah, he was a... 118 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,740 The dad who loved his kid. 119 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:47,220 The evening after we carried Fernando out of the church, we had a party and 120 00:08:47,220 --> 00:08:52,240 danced and people just burned off steam and frustration and anger. 121 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:57,460 I just remember being so completely overwhelmed by the whole situation. 122 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,620 Having lost a friend, having lost a ship. 123 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,060 It just made no sense at all. 124 00:09:33,070 --> 00:09:37,670 When we found that the New Zealand public were very, very happy to try and 125 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:38,670 help the police. 126 00:09:39,010 --> 00:09:39,989 Thank you. 127 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:40,990 One moment, please. 128 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:46,110 The next day, suddenly the members of the public started ringing in, reporting 129 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:49,890 sightings, and it really started to go quite crazy. 130 00:09:51,150 --> 00:09:54,510 Yes, Hastings, would you hold the line for Auckland, please? 131 00:09:57,390 --> 00:10:02,210 But then that afternoon, the late shift inquiry sergeant came to see us. 132 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,720 And just as a matter of passing, he said, oh, did you hear about the thing 133 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,820 that happened down the wharf last night down near the waterfront? 134 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Some guys at the yacht club had been having a number of thefts off boats in 135 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,080 the middle of the night. 136 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:23,280 So a few of them decided to stay overnight at the yacht squadron 137 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,840 headquarters and just keep an eye on things and see if they could perhaps 138 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,360 identify who was responsible for the break-in. 139 00:10:32,330 --> 00:10:36,770 During the course of their observations on the night of the bombing, they 140 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:40,990 noticed a camper van that looked extremely suspicious. 141 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:48,230 The people in sight, they were assisting somebody in pulling up a dinghy from 142 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:54,930 the sea up into a sort of a raised sloping bank before leaving. 143 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,900 The Neighbourhood Watch then called the police. 144 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,380 Police went down there, found the Zodiac tied to a tree, and they seized the 145 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:13,380 Zodiac. 146 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,820 But on the night, it didn't mean a great deal to anybody, as it was before the 147 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:20,820 actual bombing. 148 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,760 But fortuitously, the Neighbourhood Watch, they were able to get the 149 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,660 registration number of that van. 150 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,140 The camper van was registered to a company called Newman's. 151 00:11:36,980 --> 00:11:41,880 They were contacted and they were able to identify from the records that the 152 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 vehicle had been rented by Swiss Tourists. 153 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,660 A married couple, Alain and Sophie Tourange. 154 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:53,680 This was the first really significant lead. 155 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,660 We were, from that point, on the lookout for that vehicle. 156 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:01,710 wanting to speak to this couple. 157 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:10,070 In 1985, I was 21. 158 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:16,010 I'd been working at Newman's Rentals for about three or four months, and I was a 159 00:12:16,010 --> 00:12:17,010 meet-and-greet girl. 160 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:21,610 So I met Alan and Sophie Terange. 161 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:26,010 They'd already had their camper van for a few days, and then they'd got a broken 162 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:27,010 windscreen. 163 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:29,350 And so they turned up at the depot. 164 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,900 We'd put them into a replacement vehicle, and that was that. 165 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:36,520 A few days later, I got a phone call. 166 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:45,100 It was the police, and they asked me about the meeting that I'd had with Alan 167 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:47,280 Terenge and Sophie Terenge a few days before. 168 00:12:48,180 --> 00:12:50,220 Can you describe what they looked like? 169 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,740 Did they say where they'd been? 170 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:57,220 They gave no indication what it was about, and I didn't ask. 171 00:12:57,980 --> 00:12:59,340 You know, I assumed it wasn't my business. 172 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:07,820 The next morning, I arrived at work about 8 o'clock, and I said to another 173 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:09,680 girl, I said, oh, do you remember the two rangers? 174 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:12,820 And she said, yeah, that's them over there. 175 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,000 They were all sitting in the waiting area. 176 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Yeah, it was a big shock to see them. 177 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:24,260 So that was when it got a bit interesting. 178 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:29,620 The other girl, she said they were dropping off their vehicle early and I 179 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:31,920 said, look, I had a phone call last night about them. 180 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,440 They're wanted by the police. 181 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:36,700 And she just immediately reached for the phone. 182 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,460 I remember it was a rainy day in Auckland. It was a rainy, dark, sort of 183 00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:46,460 gloomy day. 184 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:52,420 We had a phone call quite early from Newman to say... 185 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,260 those people you are looking for in the cabavan are in our office now. 186 00:13:58,060 --> 00:13:59,640 What would you like us to do? 187 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Basically, we were like, keep them there. Think of whatever reason you can, 188 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,200 but keep them there. 189 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:09,820 He said, OK, we've got to keep them. 190 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,340 And then very quickly, I thought, if someone brings a vehicle back early, 191 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:18,720 they actually get the money refunded. 192 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,670 So I thought... We could use that as an excuse to keep them. 193 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:28,670 I mean, my faith, I'm not good at telling lies, you know, and hiding 194 00:14:28,670 --> 00:14:29,670 things. 195 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:33,950 But at that stage, I think I just knew I had to stay calm. 196 00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:37,290 And so I walked over to them. 197 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:42,030 Alan Turing was very friendly, very charming, chatty. 198 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:47,130 and we said, we owe you some money because you're dropping off your vehicle 199 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:50,730 earlier than you'd booked it, and we need to wait for a manager to come in 200 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:51,730 and sign the cheques. 201 00:14:52,530 --> 00:14:54,830 I think it was only about $130. 202 00:14:57,130 --> 00:15:02,790 If they had said, look, forget it, just take us to the airport, I don't know 203 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:03,790 what I would have done. 204 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:07,470 But they accepted that. 205 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,340 And then I was sort of seeing other customers and waiting for the police to 206 00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:13,340 arrive. 207 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:16,100 We had to get there at speed. 208 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,980 This was huge for us. 209 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:23,780 So we dashed down to the car park, which was about four levels below us. 210 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,560 And we got to our car, but we didn't have the keys. 211 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,580 Have you got the keys? 212 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:31,160 No, I thought you had the keys. 213 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,339 We're going to lose them. 214 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:33,340 And we're like, ah! 215 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,900 In the washing bay, there was a guy. 216 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:44,040 who used to look after all the cars, he had a brand-new Commodore sitting in 217 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,540 there which belonged to one of the big bosses. 218 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,900 I thought, well, here's a car. He had the keys on his belt, so I took the keys 219 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,320 like that, and he turned around like this, and I said, big case, big case, 220 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,440 and we drove away. 221 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:02,820 He was most put out, but we were on a mission. 222 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:07,480 So the time was dragging on, waiting for the police. 223 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:10,260 The other girl and I were both getting a bit nervous. 224 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,860 Ellen Tarrant, she came up to the counter a couple of times to ask how 225 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:15,860 things were going. 226 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:20,320 So I was starting to feel a little bit of pressure. 227 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:23,680 There was heavy traffic. 228 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,880 We were driving in a police car that didn't have sirens and lights and all 229 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,880 that sort of stuff. 230 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:33,220 It was taking ages to get there. 231 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,620 It was a terrifying thought that we could miss them. 232 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:41,530 After a while, men started arriving at work who were obviously managers. 233 00:16:41,790 --> 00:16:43,050 You know, they're wearing suits and ties. 234 00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:48,770 I looked up and Alan Terange was standing looking at me very intently. 235 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:51,790 That was really frightening. 236 00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:56,210 At that moment, I did have a bit of a flip of the stomach. 237 00:16:58,410 --> 00:17:00,650 But I tried to be really cool about it. 238 00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:07,500 And the next thing, the room just seemed to be filled with cool men in suits. 239 00:17:08,140 --> 00:17:11,920 We burst into the reception area behind Terry. 240 00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:15,560 As little as guys could hide behind him. 241 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,579 I just said, they're right behind you. 242 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,240 They walked over to Ellen and Sophie to range. 243 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:34,410 We identified ourselves as police officers and told them that we wished to 244 00:17:34,410 --> 00:17:36,810 speak to them about an unspecified matter. 245 00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:45,230 Unfortunately, with some reluctance, they said yes. 246 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:53,690 What did you think they'd done? 247 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:57,810 In my mind, I decided they'd been poaching trout in Lake Taupo. 248 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:10,210 We returned with the Teronges to Auckland Central Police Station where we 249 00:18:10,210 --> 00:18:11,850 prepared to formally interview them. 250 00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:17,190 I was in charge of questioning Alan Teronge. 251 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:21,850 So I interviewed him off and on for about 22 hours. 252 00:18:23,030 --> 00:18:28,770 They were kept apart so that their stories could be given individually. 253 00:18:28,790 --> 00:18:30,010 They couldn't collaborate. 254 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:32,650 You had to be... 255 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:34,430 methodical, meticulous. 256 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:37,050 If you're too hasty, you miss things. 257 00:18:37,330 --> 00:18:38,950 And so I asked them logical questions. 258 00:18:41,670 --> 00:18:42,950 What is your full name? 259 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:45,390 Alain Turange. 260 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:48,310 What is the purpose of your visit? 261 00:18:48,690 --> 00:18:49,690 Holiday. 262 00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:52,210 Sophie, can you tell me where you were born? 263 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:54,090 Geneva. 264 00:18:55,070 --> 00:18:56,770 What was the date of your marriage? 265 00:18:57,610 --> 00:18:59,710 6th of September, 1975. 266 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,120 Well, how long have you been married? 267 00:19:03,620 --> 00:19:04,620 Ten years. 268 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:06,880 What date did you get married? 269 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:10,260 September, about the 6th. 270 00:19:11,260 --> 00:19:14,480 Ellen Turon was cool, calm, collected. 271 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,560 There's a thing called a Gaelic shrug, where they go, and he come out with it a 272 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560 lot. 273 00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:25,340 She wasn't very cooperative either. 274 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,880 It would help us if we knew more about you. 275 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,960 What do you want to know? 276 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:33,290 Tell us about your husband. 277 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:35,590 What did you mean? 278 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:38,150 What does he like to do? 279 00:19:38,770 --> 00:19:39,870 What are his interests? 280 00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:43,650 I do not talk about my husband. 281 00:19:45,370 --> 00:19:49,230 Then I started to ask him about the waterfront. What were they doing there? 282 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:54,090 And he said that they had had an argument. So he got out of the van to 283 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:55,090 cool off a bit. 284 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:59,830 And then he saw a fisherman who was dragging a dinghy up on the rocks. 285 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,680 I want to get back to this night in question. 286 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Where and when did you see the man that you helped? 287 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,140 When I was walking back to the van. 288 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:11,020 And what did he say? 289 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:15,600 He said for me to help him pull his dinghy out of the water. 290 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,680 He said his name was Peter. 291 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,860 What happened then? 292 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:26,540 I helped him pull the boat from the water and asked him where he was going. 293 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,540 He said he had his car near there and he was going to it. 294 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:32,690 What then? 295 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:35,070 I offered to take him to it. 296 00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:37,670 You offered him? 297 00:20:37,930 --> 00:20:39,350 A complete stranger? 298 00:20:39,630 --> 00:20:42,710 You in a foreign land? That was very good of you. 299 00:20:43,550 --> 00:20:44,870 Yes. Why? 300 00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:46,630 I don't know. I can say. 301 00:20:47,410 --> 00:20:50,070 Perhaps you knew him, Alan. That would explain it. 302 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:52,510 No. 303 00:20:53,690 --> 00:20:58,210 And so I asked him, Peter the fisherman, where did he sit in the van? 304 00:20:59,750 --> 00:21:00,750 At the front. 305 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:04,760 Why in the front? Why not in the back? 306 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,760 So that he could tell my wife where to drive to? 307 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,000 While Perry was speaking with Alan, Sophie was also asked about the man they 308 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,440 had picked up from the waterfront. 309 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:23,300 When the man was in the van, where was he sitting? 310 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:25,260 In the back. 311 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Your husband said he was sitting in the front. 312 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:31,460 I don't know. 313 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:33,270 He was in the back. 314 00:21:36,490 --> 00:21:40,370 They were giving conflicting accounts and it was a simple question. Where did 315 00:21:40,370 --> 00:21:41,450 the guy sit in the van? 316 00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:43,870 And they couldn't get it right. 317 00:21:45,290 --> 00:21:47,550 That, of course, is overwhelmingly suspicious. 318 00:21:49,910 --> 00:21:53,270 Your wife says you were next to her in the front and the man you helped in the 319 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:54,550 back. Which is it? 320 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:58,030 I am sure I was in the back. 321 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,520 What do you want me to say? 322 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,160 How about the truth? 323 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,740 You're getting it. 324 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,260 So even from that early stage of the interview, you start to build a picture 325 00:22:16,260 --> 00:22:20,120 that you're talking with two people who are not telling the truth. 326 00:22:21,860 --> 00:22:28,520 I think throughout that process, as a detective, you're looking for signs 327 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:34,240 The way they interacted with each other was surprising. 328 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,900 They didn't comfort each other to any great extent. 329 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:40,760 They didn't behave like married people. 330 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:46,500 So all these little bits, they all created a huge suspicion in our minds. 331 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,020 But we had nothing concrete on them at all. 332 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:06,910 Detective Superintendent Alan Galbraith briefed his team of 66 detectives at the 333 00:23:06,910 --> 00:23:10,250 start of another day in the search to find the bombers of the Rainbow Warrior. 334 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:16,050 We were still questioning the taronges and it soon became clear that we needed 335 00:23:16,050 --> 00:23:17,150 more solid evidence. 336 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:18,890 So we went public. 337 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,380 Police are releasing only little information, but it's known they're 338 00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:27,200 keenly interested in this Newman's rented camper van seen in the area not 339 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,480 long before the bombings. 340 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:34,840 We want to locate where this vehicle has been, hopefully trace people who have 341 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,180 had any contact with the occupants. What areas was this van in? We suspect in 342 00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:43,720 Auckland, North Auckland, and down as far as perhaps Hamilton. 343 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,480 Next day. 344 00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:51,140 We get a ring from a couple of forestry workers up in Tipuni Forest and said, 345 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,620 oh, are you interested in a camper van? I'll tell you a little story about a 346 00:23:54,620 --> 00:23:55,620 camper van. 347 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,220 The man said a couple of days before the bombing he was working in a forest car 348 00:24:00,220 --> 00:24:05,740 park when he saw a Newman's camper van pull up, wait a short while and then 349 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:06,740 drive off. 350 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,620 A short time later, a grey estate car arrived with several men in it. 351 00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:14,640 The workman felt... 352 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,580 it was a little suspicious. 353 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:23,520 So he wrote down the registration number of this grey estate car on his truck in 354 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,520 the dust. 355 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,080 I said to the guy, oh, is the number still there? He said, oh, we've had some 356 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,440 thunderstorms and it's probably washed off by now. 357 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,440 There it is there. 358 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,560 LR8114. 359 00:24:42,730 --> 00:24:45,410 We find out it had been rented from a hire company. 360 00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:52,730 The rental car company had rented it out to people with French passports. 361 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:59,290 There was four people in total. There was Xavier Manigay, Eric Audron, John 362 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:02,350 Michelle Patello and Raymond Oltz. 363 00:25:04,030 --> 00:25:08,530 And they'd given their addresses, a yacht, the Ouvier. 364 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:11,530 So the Ouvier... 365 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,460 immediately became of interest to us. 366 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:25,700 The bombing occurred on the night of the 10th of July and when we contacted 367 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:30,860 customs they told us that the Ovea yacht had left New Zealand the day before the 368 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:32,300 bombing on the 9th of July. 369 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,660 So they couldn't have been the actual guys who planted the bombs. 370 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,000 But we were sure at that stage that somehow these people could be connected 371 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000 with the bombing. 372 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:53,520 We wanted to know about all their movements over the period that they were 373 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,760 in the north of New Zealand, which is sparsely populated. 374 00:25:57,340 --> 00:26:02,700 You might think you could operate there at leisure almost and wouldn't be 375 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:03,940 detected. People wouldn't be... 376 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:09,290 that police wouldn't be able to investigate because, after all, it was a 377 00:26:09,290 --> 00:26:10,290 backwater. 378 00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:13,010 Well, they were totally wrong. 379 00:26:15,150 --> 00:26:21,390 The Ovea crew attracted attention to themselves by various things that they 380 00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:22,970 did that were unusual. 381 00:26:23,270 --> 00:26:29,410 The story essentially was that they were on holiday on a diving trip, although 382 00:26:29,410 --> 00:26:32,470 there was no evidence of any diving having been done. 383 00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:36,790 Because it was midwinter in New Zealand. 384 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:42,730 New Zealand in July, it's very cold, the seas are rough, it's not good for 385 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:43,730 diving. 386 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:47,030 It was suspicious, very suspicious. 387 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:58,350 French-speaking males in northern New Zealand, they were rather exotic, 388 00:26:58,570 --> 00:26:59,910 noticeable, shall we say. 389 00:27:01,390 --> 00:27:04,750 They certainly appeared to have enjoyed themselves when they came ashore. 390 00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:09,370 They mingled very freely and openly with locals. 391 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:17,070 One character had a romantic interlude with a policeman's wife. 392 00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:19,030 They had a great old time. 393 00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:24,150 They were getting photographed by females on many occasions. 394 00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:27,650 Made their presence felt, if you like. 395 00:27:31,290 --> 00:27:35,510 here for a job, but something didn't seem right. 396 00:27:36,190 --> 00:27:38,650 We needed to speak to those people pretty quickly. 397 00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:56,710 Inspector Galbraith, who was in charge of the investigation, was determined not 398 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:57,710 to screw it up. 399 00:27:57,970 --> 00:28:01,670 Within two or three days of the explosion, Nobody was allowed on the 400 00:28:01,670 --> 00:28:03,010 dock or near the boat. 401 00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:06,950 He controlled who was coming and who was going and what was happening. 402 00:28:08,410 --> 00:28:10,490 But the boat was heeling over on the dock. 403 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:16,450 And the police didn't want the masks on a boat that they didn't know how strong 404 00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:17,450 was anymore. 405 00:28:17,470 --> 00:28:20,250 So we went out there and took the masks down. 406 00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:24,970 Peter, you went aboard the Rainbow Warrior this morning. What sort of scene 407 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:25,970 greeted you? 408 00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:29,750 Well, primarily everything was covered in diesel fuel, soaking wet. 409 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,240 It's smelly. 410 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,320 Very slippery just to walk around. 411 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,800 It doesn't look good. 412 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:40,040 I think all the woodwork on the boat will have to be redone, torn out. 413 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,260 To be taking all that stuff apart and at some point realizing it was probably 414 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:49,400 never going back on, it was just really, that was tough. 415 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,920 And I was sitting there just bummed out and depressed. 416 00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:58,580 I remember being very upset about Fernando. 417 00:29:02,350 --> 00:29:08,850 But I remember thinking he enjoyed being a part of Greenpeace, being a part of 418 00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:10,950 trying to change these issues that we were changing. 419 00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:15,170 And I started picking up the pieces and going on. 420 00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:20,330 I decided I don't want to sit around and do nothing. 421 00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:23,410 We have to get to Maroa. 422 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:28,850 I didn't want to be stopped by the people that did it. 423 00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:31,590 All I know, 424 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:37,620 If there were people who didn't want to see a failure, then we're wrong. 425 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:44,920 But if they think, if they can stop this, it's a big mistake. 426 00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:48,820 Because you can kill people. 427 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,080 You can send shit. 428 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:53,600 You can't kill spirit. 429 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,540 And the spirit of the warrior is still there. 430 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120 to make a statement we had to sell. 431 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,560 We weren't going to give up. 432 00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:26,120 By that stage, there was obviously questions about international 433 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,120 involvement. 434 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:32,500 The Taronges and the Auvers crew were all native French speakers. 435 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:39,600 In terms of Greenpeace's enemies, if you will, the hot topic at that time was the 436 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:46,240 French nuclear testing at Moura Atoll. So in terms of people being upset with 437 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,780 Greenpeace, I would say France at that time were the number one contenders. 438 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,680 The Taronges were remanded in custody, but the Auvers crew... 439 00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:58,320 We needed to get our hands on them pretty quickly. 440 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,640 Customs told us that the Ovea had been located in Norfolk Island, which is a 441 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,600 small island close to Australia. 442 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:15,500 We were flown across to Norfolk Island and we'd tracked them down to one of the 443 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:16,800 local motels. 444 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,280 And, you know, to be fair, we were just a motley group of police that were 445 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,500 available. to suddenly fly out of New Zealand. So we weren't like some 446 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:32,400 trained, highly trained team of motel stormers or anything else like that. 447 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,680 So we liaised with the motel owner. 448 00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:40,460 It was getting quite late at night at that stage. 449 00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:43,060 And we put a bit of a plan together. 450 00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:49,960 A couple of teams of us were going to storm the two units that the members of 451 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,160 the OVEA were then at that time asleep in. 452 00:31:55,980 --> 00:32:00,060 So we were talking about kicking in the doors and all of that sort of drama. 453 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,360 And I remember the motel owner saying, would you like the keys for the door? 454 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,500 And we go, oh yeah, that'd be great, thanks. 455 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:09,140 It was dark. 456 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,000 They were in bed asleep. 457 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:17,700 So we quietly opened the door and then we burst into their unit. 458 00:32:22,990 --> 00:32:25,130 They were immediately alert. 459 00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:29,010 They were ready for action. 460 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:37,270 They were guys that could have provided a fair bit of resistance or fought back 461 00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:39,070 at us had they decided to. 462 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:43,090 Fortunately for us, they didn't. 463 00:32:44,370 --> 00:32:48,310 They were detained and then returned back to the Norfolk Island Police 464 00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:49,310 Station. 465 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,040 We took their passports to have them checked out. 466 00:32:55,820 --> 00:33:00,700 But Norfolk is administered by the Australian government, so we were under 467 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:02,140 a 24-hour deadline. 468 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,160 At the end of 24 hours, you had to either charge them with an offence or 469 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,160 release them. 470 00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:12,920 The pressure was on all of us involved in the interviews. 471 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,240 We needed something significant or we had to let them go. 472 00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:26,150 You're looking for signs, their body, their facial expressions, how they 473 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:27,770 react to different questions. 474 00:33:29,170 --> 00:33:33,470 Sitting in the room with these guys, we became aware that these men were very 475 00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:36,610 capable, quite military, quite trained. 476 00:33:37,910 --> 00:33:41,810 And after talking to them or being with them for a little while, you could 477 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:45,010 clearly see they were anything but tourists. 478 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,380 And gradually you start to wonder, who the hell am I dealing with here? 479 00:34:23,179 --> 00:34:24,860 Because we are real professionals. 480 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,460 We know the risks. 481 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,800 We know the consequences. 482 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:37,900 It's our job. 483 00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:10,030 It's not the feeling of having done something criminal. 484 00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:13,630 It's not that I'm lying, I'm sure of it. It's to serve. 485 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:28,710 The death of a man and those who are taken will end up in prison. 486 00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:37,650 When the New Zealand police, who had landed in Norfolk, stopped 487 00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:44,190 us, we imagined the worst for them, years in prison. 488 00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:48,770 We were prepared for that kind of thing. 489 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,860 crew of the OVR, these men were very staunch, evasive. 490 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:10,080 They would revert back to French speaking when any question became 491 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:16,120 difficult. You couldn't find an angle that could get past that frontage on 492 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,120 them. 493 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:48,600 We had not learnt anything of any significance. 494 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:53,760 Nothing had come back on the passports. 495 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,630 We just didn't have enough to arrest them. 496 00:36:58,290 --> 00:37:01,730 Clearly, if you've got no evidence, then they need to be released. 497 00:37:03,010 --> 00:37:04,270 We had to let them go. 498 00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:10,970 It's one of the most disappointing moments of my police career, watching 499 00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:14,190 them rowing out to their boat, to the Ovea. 500 00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:39,010 I remember standing there thinking, I'm sure these guys work for the French 501 00:37:39,010 --> 00:37:43,050 Secret Service, but can we prove it? 502 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,720 On the day that we picked up the torologies, we sent the details of both 503 00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,060 the passports and the licences to Interpol. 504 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:07,160 The Swiss came back very quickly and said that these are good forgeries, but 505 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,760 both the passports and the licences were totally false. 506 00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:14,900 It meant we could charge them with immigration charges. 507 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960 But who were these people? 508 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,440 How did they fit into the bombing? 509 00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:24,550 And who were they associated with? 510 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:28,250 Where do we need to look next? 511 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:31,270 What is your real name? 512 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:34,450 I want to talk to you by your real first name. 513 00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:38,470 Just Sophie. 514 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:41,350 Who do you work for? 515 00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:45,930 I think you know. 516 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:53,450 From the way you talk, you must work for the French Government Intelligence, or 517 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:54,450 something similar. 518 00:38:56,370 --> 00:38:57,370 Yes. 519 00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:59,890 But I cannot tell you. 520 00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:04,070 I want to know what your involvement in the bombing is. 521 00:39:05,650 --> 00:39:06,790 I cannot say. 522 00:39:08,770 --> 00:39:13,110 If you're not the main person in this bombing, we can try to get immunity for 523 00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:14,490 you. Do you understand that? 524 00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:16,190 Yes. 525 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:18,390 But it is a trick. 526 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:20,980 But it's murder. 527 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:22,980 Someone has died. 528 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,820 We must know your involvement. 529 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:26,820 You must help yourself. 530 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:33,100 If you were not the one that put the bomb on that boat, it is better for you. 531 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,320 You understand? 532 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,400 Of course. 533 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,240 I want to know who has been working with you besides Alan. 534 00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:47,600 That is not for me to say. 535 00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:59,960 Mr Galbraith, are you any closer to solving the crime? 536 00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:04,880 I think we are reasonably close, but there's a great deal of work we have to 537 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,459 do yet. 538 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:10,460 We've collected a lot of evidence. It really just needs the right piece of 539 00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:12,920 evidence and perhaps the thing would fall into place. 540 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:21,280 We'd been working tirelessly, but still had no idea who was part of that 541 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,520 demolition crew who actually attached these bombs to the boat. 542 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:34,070 There was some detailed examination of the wharf divers looking for clues 543 00:40:34,070 --> 00:40:36,030 and other things that might help the inquiry. 544 00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:40,750 So far about 500 pieces of material have been brought up from the harbour floor. 545 00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:43,750 Even the minutest objects are being examined. 546 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:48,110 One vital clue is an outboard motor found submerged in Hobson Bay. 547 00:40:49,090 --> 00:40:54,890 Here we can see the Yamaha outboard engine that was dumped in the water. 548 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:59,150 That was obviously connected to the zodiac that was recovered. 549 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:04,230 But we couldn't believe what we found next. 550 00:41:05,530 --> 00:41:08,810 We found a dive bottle just dumped in the grass. 551 00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:15,110 The oxygen bottle would have been used by divers, and they were pure white. 552 00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:22,370 On one of the oxygen bottles located was a black, heavy denier pantyhose. 553 00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:25,690 They'd only assume that it was a camouflage thing. 554 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:32,730 Here we have the equipment that was probably used by those who were 555 00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:35,430 responsible for placing the explosives on the boat. 556 00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:39,290 But who was it that actually wore it? 557 00:41:41,530 --> 00:41:46,370 The crew of the OVR left New Zealand the day before. 558 00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:49,530 The Rainbow Warrior was actually blown up. 559 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400 Clearly they'd fulfilled their part of the mission. 560 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,940 We think at this time that was delivery of the gear required to carry out the 561 00:41:58,940 --> 00:41:59,940 operation. 562 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,440 The Torongas were present at the waterfront the night of the bombing, the 563 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:11,340 fact that they uplifted the Zodiac out of the sea. We think it was their job to 564 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,060 transport that stuff after the bombs went off. 565 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,500 But who was this diver? 566 00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:24,090 or person that they'd picked up out of the water, who actually planted the 567 00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:28,390 explosives, to carry out the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior. 568 00:42:59,279 --> 00:43:06,260 The net was closing in and we 569 00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:08,120 were really confident that we were going to find them. 570 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:23,080 They identified him as a French secret agent. 571 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,340 It would be state terrorism. 572 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:26,900 He did it. 573 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,600 He was the summer leaflet. 47249

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