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So, ladies and gentlemen, my special guest for

this evening is Jordan Maxwell, read a brief bio and then we'll get right to it.

Jordan Maxwell is a preeminent researcher and

independent scholar in the field of occultism and religious philosophy.

His work exploring the hidden foundations of

Western religions and secret societies creates

enthusiastic responses from audiences around the world.

Jordan has conducted dozens of intensive

seminars hosted his own radio talk shows, guessed

it on more than 600 radio shows and written

produced and appeared in numerous television

shows and documentaries devoted to understanding

ancient religions and their pervasive influence on world affairs today.

His work on the subject of secret societies both

ancient and modern and their symbols has

fascinated audiences around the world for decades.

His extraordinary presentations include

documents and photographs seldom seen elsewhere,

considering the rapidly moving events of today

and the very real part that hidden religious

agendas play in our modern war-torn world.

Jordan feels that these controversial subjects

are not only interesting to explore but too important to ignore.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to what on earth

is happening, a gentleman who I personally

consider to be a mentor in truth, Mr. Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, welcome to the show.

Absolutely, my honor to have you here tonight.

So, I'll start off by just asking you how long

you've been involved in the work of exposing hidden knowledge to the public.

How long have you considered yourself a DO cultist of hidden information?

And what was really the thing that put you over

the edge to decide to start doing work like this?

Actually, I was always, even as a child, I was always interested in the written world.

I realized in an early age, I don't know why,

I just gravitated toward the idea, probably

something in my personality to understand, but I always knew I just had a gut feeling

even as a kid that there's a whole world of knowledge, you're not aware of, you know.

There's things going on in the world and in the universe that you're not being told

and that adults around me did not know anything about.

And so I always had a hankering to, I want to know what's really going on.

I mean, I want to know what's really behind the scenes.

And so as a kid, I started, as I gravitated

toward looking not just at what you're seeing

but what you're not seeing, but the rest of the story.

And of course, my mother always said that no matter what we're with here, happening

in the community, I should always say, well, there's two sides there in the story.

And some types of three sides.

And so I always knew that just because you're

reading something into paper about somebody

and what they want to suppose they have done

or didn't do, whatever, there's all kinds

of other information that you're not pretty to know about.

Probably most of it is propaganda and the rest of it is prejudiced.

And so you never know unless you are, you are yourself involved and you will know.

I remember an ABC Newsman many years ago on

radio made an interesting statement and stuff with me.

He said, "If you want to know how corrupt

and how corrupt and inaccurate the news that

you hear on radio and television, you want

to know how bad it really is, just wait till

they do a story on you, wait till something that you are personally involved in.

It comes out in the newspapers that are on

radio where you were the one that was there.

I watch what they're saying about you, watch

what the media is saying about the situation, about the problem, about you.

You will know yourself what the real truth is and you will know here the way the media

is presented, so I realize at a long time ago

the more I looked into what I was believing

but my family was involved in, the more it became an obvious thing.

Welcome back everyone.

You're listening to What On Earth is Happening

Here on Republic Broadcasting Network.

I'm your host Mark Passio.

My website WhatOnEarthIsHappening.com.

Tonight my very special guest is a cult researcher, Mr. Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, I have another question for you.

Since you've begun doing the work that you do many years ago, have you yourself, do

you see any actual, perceivable, recognizable

difference in what you would consider the overall

state of consciousness of humanity or at least

qualify that and say at least an increase

in the interest in occulted knowledge and information?

What is your take on that?

Well, are you hearing me now?

Yes, yes, I can hear you.

Okay.

I would say probably the opposite, I would say

there seems to be less interest in anything

intelligent today than there was when, you

know, back in the '60s and '50s, '60s and '70s.

It was probably a lot more open and open to

here and, you know, in Mark, I'm of interest.

Where today there seems to be so much going on in the world that

uses stuff, baseball and football and sport to move you smaller.

To where people really aren't getting it,

found out the bottom line is people just don't

get it, what's really going on and so they

become sucked into and a part of the systems

to such an extent that I don't really see people waking up very much.

Yeah, there are a way to be those people who

are, but it's going to be a very small, very,

very small number in comparison because there

are none so blind as those who choose not

to see and so it doesn't mean that humans

are so stupid, they can't see, you know, most

people at this point in life are scared and they don't want to see.

They don't want to hear anything that might tighten them or might, you know, they don't

engage in any conversation which is not talked about in polite company.

I always don't wonder about that.

Why isn't we don't want to talk about that?

I think certain people have done, or even in

my family, or even as young or as a criminal,

we don't want to talk about that, you know, we don't bring that up.

Why not?

Well, because we don't talk about religion,

politics, or anything unpleasant in polite company.

We don't want to talk about that.

So the criminals say, "Thank God, this way

nobody is talking about me, and I can continue

to do what I do because nobody wants to talk about it.

" So I think that we are less aware today than

we've ever been, but those who are aware are very much aware in doing what they can

to enlighten themselves and that's the people that I am directing my voice to.

I'm not interested in saving the world, the world can't be saved.

Period.

Jesus tried to do work, and all the other

great prophets and intelligent people tried to

do something like Tesla tried to like the world

and all he got for was going into, you know,

filling in their chaos in his life and died of hunger.

So I know that you're not going to save the human race, it's impossible to do.

What is possible is to help those individuals

who are trying to do something to help themselves

and to understand the world.

And so that's who I'm directing my comments to those who want to know.

You know, I hear a lot of people say, "Well, you know people are waking up today.

" And my comment to that is, yes, that's what

people do when they're in prison every morning

and after transit and then the big prisons of the world, people wake up.

And when they wake up, they're still in prison,

but at least they're waking up, at least they won't walk in.

But they're still in prison.

So just because people are waking up, it doesn't mean they know anything.

And they have no power, even the people who are waking today.

In fact, have little to no power to do

anything about the world situation, even though

they're awakening, and they may be quite a

few, but they're still the billions of people

around the world who couldn't care less.

And so when I hear people say that there is a light at the

end of the tunnel, I always see, yes, it's a train coming.

So I don't see that civilization and the human

race is going to be able to extricate itself

or get itself out of the mess that we're in, I always see chaos coming.

And I have to tell you, I've been looking at

it for 50 years, I know what I'm talking about.

I tend to agree that we definitely don't have

a mass awakening happening, it's happening

in small isolated pockets and scattered to

the four corners of the earth most certainly.

And I personally see some more people coming

on to the desire for a cult acknowledge and

hit an information and starting to look into things and do research for themselves.

But I do see that as being a very small

movement when you compare it with the multitude

of the mindless masses that are out there that haven't

even begun researching any of this information.

And I think if we apply our will to talk about

those hidden issues that we just mentioned

like the corruption that is going on and many

more people do that work, then maybe we could start to reverse that trend.

But I certainly don't see that as something

that is happening in mass in any way as well.

So I tend to largely agree with your view when it comes to that.

Can you give us your take on, you know, I've

been accused of this in the past and actually

up to the current day and I've heard other people calling you a new age or call myself

a new age or I don't consider myself a member of the new age movement by any stretch

of anybody's imagination, most of all my own.

And I certainly don't consider you a new age or by any means whatsoever.

Can you give me your honest take of what, you know, many people would call the quote

"new age movement" or "new age spirituality?

" That's a loaded question, big time.

That's a very, very heavy duty question because

if you understand the Bible, you understand

which Christians across the board do not,

one thing that most Christians have in common

is they do not understand much of anything.

And so if they don't understand ancient

history, you don't understand the culture from

which the Bible has come from and in terms of

the words and having looked at the anthropology

of the concept that they ideas expressed in the Bible, you're never going to figure out

what's been what's going on and you've got to call people names when that's what small

minds refer to if you don't understand what's going on, you're not educated to not

to intellectually discuss something, they just call

people names and then they don't take care of you.

You don't have to talk about the subject of all, you don't have to listen to anybody

who knows what they're talking about, just call them a name, call them "new ageer" and

that implies implication is that they are

mentally disordered and dangerous worship of

devil worshipers and all that, but who is

this calling people "new ageers" is born again

Christians who have no conceptual idea of what new age

or age or any other means and no idea what it means.

And there are a few out there who are leading as the Bible said, there will be blind

leading the blind and both shall fall into the pit.

And so by their fruits, you shall know them as when Jesus said.

And that is something you need to keep in mind, by their fruits, you shall know them.

We'll talk about that later.

Very important words to keep in mind, ladies

and gentlemen, my special guest this evening,

Jordan Maxwell, you're listening to What On Earth is Happening, we'll be right back.

Welcome back every morning, you're listening to What On Earth is Happening, I'm your

host, Mark Passio, tonight my special guest

joining us is Jordan Maxwell, a cult researcher.

Jordan, you were saying before the break, you

were talking about the concept of you shall

know them by their fruits, you shall know them

by their works, I think it's very critically

important advice for people to take to heart.

And I feel that the fruits of what we would call the "new age" spirituality movement

is inaction, it is more than really alerting

people of their current true predicament in

our world, and how the world is going deeper

into bondage and slavery, I think what they're

doing is giving people a watered-down feel-good

variant of so-called spirituality that's

really keeping them in sort of a trance of

inaction, would you agree in, can you speak to that?

Well, yeah, I'm sure there's something to what

you're saying, but what I think is even more

important is the fact that the whole idea of

a new age comes directly out of the Bible.

Now, unfortunately, most Christians have no idea what I'm talking about, some Jews do,

but the whole idea of the Bible's stories is

talks about the new age, and today all over

the world, and especially in America, look at the literature published by Christian

denominations all over the country, I don't care what, the denomination, look and read

the literature like I have for some 54 years.

The literature, and you will see everywhere

the term, the church age, and our age today,

and the gospel age, and the gospel age, and today we're in the church age, and then

they always call them Matthew, where Jesus said, "Go forth, go forth, baptize, and the

name of the Father's Son and all this Spirit,

and I will be with you to the end of the world.

"

That's what it says in the last chapter in the last verse of the book of Matthew.

Jesus said, "I will be with you to the end of the world."

That's a mistranslation, the word in Greek as A-on, A-E-O-N, which was mistranslated

in the world, "Go back and do some homework,"

instead of calling people names, "Go back

and read the Bible," and instead Jesus said, "I will be with you to the end of the

A-on, A-E-O-N, which is translated correctly,

age," so Jesus said, "I will be with you

to the end of the age," so Christian will then say, "Oh, well, that was the gospel

age." So now we're in the church age. Well, now you're talking about ages.

You understand? You're using the word age. Well, from the gospel age, now we have the

church age. Could we say that the gospel age is a bygone era? It's a bygone age, and

that the church age was a new age, and that that is the case in what their ages before

the gospel age. Maybe there was other ages

before that, well, once you get into the Jewish

literature, and again, to read the rabbinical

literature, you begin to see that the entire

story of the Bible, both only new, but

especially the new testament, is an astrological

story, and is talking about the new age.

That's what Jesus said. I will be with you to

the end of the age, and so what are you talking about?

It's a very big story.

It's a very modern material, you have to do color.

But Jesus tells us a process, because there were

12 apostles that they were following there. They were leaving God's son, and he was

referred to as the light of the world.

Well, of course the son is the light of the world.

What else likes the world? The son.

And so his 12 followers, there's 12 apostles or the

12 signs of the zodiac, or the 12 months of the year, whatever you want to call it, the

12 asked God's son, now that you're going to die, where are we supposed to go?

What's next? And in the book of Luke, in the New

Testament Luke 22, 10, go read it, God's son,

the light of the world, said to the 12 followers,

go into the city, and you will see a man carrying a water picture. Go into the house

of the man with the water picture.

Well, one thing Bible scholars know that Christians

don't is that no where, and the Middle East, in

any country, it's biblical times out today,

nowhere does it do men carry water pictures.

And in the Middle East, it is a woman's job to carry water, not as I am period.

It would have been a shame to see a man carrying water.

That's a woman's job. And this is what

Jesus was always talking about to the women at the well.

Women carry water, not men, period.

Therefore, why would Jesus say go into the city

and see the man carrying the water picture?

Go into the house of the man with the water picture. Well, anybody who's got Monica

Sends knows that the symbol for Aquarius is a man with the

water pictures, and anyone who's done any research at all,

which most Christians have, but if you have, you

will know that the symbol for Christianity and the

ancient Roman Empire was too fish crossing too fish.

That's why Jesus feeds his crown with too

fish, the number of look, the too fish are of

course obviously. The symbol for pine seeds,

the age of religion, and the Roman Empire, and it started about the fourth century.

So Jesus represents the master of the age of Pisces.

He feeds his proper too fig. Pisces get it, and then

when he's getting ready to leave the world, 2,000

years later, he's getting ready to leave the

world, his 12 followers, the 12 signs of the zodiac,

the 12 months of the year, the 12 brothers of children,

the 12 apostles, my God, there's all kinds of 12s in the Bible,

and nobody seems to put it together. The 12 of the 12 signs of the

zodiac, the 12 months of the year, okay.

So when you see the 12 followers of the sun asking where

we to go now, that we've been in the age of

the two fishes, now where we to go, well, the

master of the Pisces and Eve says, "go into the

house with a man with a water pressure.

" Well, obviously, you've got 500 breeds out, you know, that

prairie as follows, Pisces, and so the next sign

should be a prairie as. And so, well, let's go backwards.

Let's go backwards.

We put our Jesus before the inauguration of the age of Pisces.

What were we in there? Well, if you go back to

the time of Moses, Moses was even before Moses.

The world was in the age of Taurus, the bull,

and therefore the Jews of the ancient Hebrews,

were worshippers of God's son, the light of the

world, and the age of Taurus, the bull.

That's why you have the golden cap. The sun is golden and a cap

is from the whole. So, the golden cap was the sun

in the age of Taurus. Now, when the end of the

age of Taurus was coming, God calls Moses up to

the mountain to give him a new law, and he goes up

into the mountain, he gets the new understanding,

the new revelation, the new law, and comes back

down to give to the Hebrew people. And what does he

do? If he finds the people worshipping a golden cap,

why it's telling you that the people were still

worshipping the way they were in the age of Taurus, the bull.

Moses comes down and says, "We've got a new arrangement.

" God just gave us a new age, a new time,

and he is that means we are now in the age of airies,

the realm, and therefore instead of worshipping

the golden cap without supposed to blow the realms far.

And so it's really interesting how today we

are seeing the Jews worshipping the realm, blowing

the realms far, and never ever suspected that it's

all astrology, the whole thing. So astrotheological

metaphor or allegory for the movement of the sun

through the procession of the equinoxis.

That's exactly what it is. And if you're hearing fireworks,

it's because there's a big celebration here in

the city and fireworks. So don't be excited,

that's all this. Not a problem at all, Jordan.

Jordan, say right where this, we'll pick this up on

the other side of this break. Ladies and gentlemen,

you're listening to what on earth is happening,

my special guest this evening, Jordan Maxwell, stay with us.

Welcome back everyone. We're listening to what on earth is happening. I'm your host,

Mark Passio, my special guest this evening, Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, I want to shift gears a little bit and I'll go into some even deeper

waters if we can. Can you tell us your general

view of human origins? And do you think it's

a possibility that in our ancient past, there was a direct non-human intervention

in the creation of humanity, or at least

the creation of the current human condition,

whether that was done through possibly genetic

or epigenetic manipulation, you're take on that?

Well, another good question.

There's no doubt in my mind what, when I was transpired,

I've said many years ago that the word evolution

and the concept of evolution is incorrect to look at the evolution is not important.

The word you need to look at, the conceptual idea you

need to research is intervention, not evolution.

Let me explain. The Bible clearly says,

and I'm fascinated with the wisdom that's

encoded in the Bible. It's not there for anyone

to just sit and read, but if you do the homework on breaking down the words and the

etymology of the words, it's going back into the

age of language of art, youth, linguistics, which

is a study of the ancient languages, and the

ancient concepts and ideas of the prehistoric world,

and how it's come down to us today, you will

begin to see how there's a lot of fascinating

stuff encoded in the Bible that Christians and Jews didn't see. I would say this,

that the Bible does not say that God created man.

I used to sit and talk at rabbi as many years

ago at the Salomon Wheaton Dolls Center for

Holocaust Studies in Los Angeles. I'm talking about

many, many years ago, and even before that back

in the 60s with a rabbinical friend of mine,

and it became apparent that from what they were saying that they were

intimate, that God did not create man, and so I

got interested in that. I said, "Wait a minute,

what are you saying?" And the rabbis said, "First

of all, God, the Scripture do not say God created man.

" That's a new, flung, doesn't do ideas, a new

concept when it has nothing to do with Judaism,

or ancient Judaism, or the Bible at all. No, nowhere does it say God created man.

Go back and read it correctly, and so I began

to see that he was right, because the word man

in Hebrew ish, I-S-H ish ish is man in Hebrew, but in the Bible when it says in God,

God is creating Adam and Eve, it doesn't say

it, and God created ish. It doesn't say that.

The word is a-d-l in Hebrew, a-dum, not Adam.

We added an a in the life of a Jewish name, Adam.

No, no, not Adam. A-d-l, a-dum means something in

Hebrew, and so the Scripture says that God said,

"Come, let us make man in our image." Well, the word man there is not ish. It's a-dum.

So the correct translation, if you do it right

in the left of your original Hebrew, is God said,

"Come, let us make a-dum in our image after our likeness.

" That is in Rabbi told me many years ago,

I'm fascinated by this because he said, "Go back and read the Scripture correctly.

" It doesn't say, "God created man." It says, "God said, "Come,

let us make man in our image after our likeness,

not make man, but make a man in our image

after our likeness." So he will look like us.

And so I said, "Wait a minute, God says, "Come,

let us, who is us?" And then later on God looks

down on the earth and says, "See man has become

as one of us or a-dum has become one of us.

" And so what are you talking about us?

God talking to himself or who's he talking to?

Well, go back to Genesis 1, when it says, "In the

beginning God created the heavens of the earth, that's not what it says in Hebrew.

" It doesn't say that. Go back and read the word,

because in Hebrew the word, "For God is El, El is God.

" But that's not the word that is in Genesis

1, 1, not at all. Go back and read it in Hebrew,

and it says, "In the beginning El loheme created

the heavens of the earth." Not El, and so El

loheme is a plural. It's like putting an s on the

end of an English word. You have C-A-R is one thing, but

C-A-R-S means many cards more than one in the plural.

So El is God, but El loheme is a plural, meaning more than one.

Therefore the correct translation, if you want to be accurate and read it in the

Hebrew in the way it was actually written,

not the way your pastor said, not the way your

church is, but if you want to go to the original,

then it would be correctly translated in the

beginning the gods created the heavens in the earth, more than one.

So then when we hear that the Hebrews

and the ancient Jews and the ancient Hebrews were

the worshippers of one God. They were the first

monotyistic people, and in point of fact that

is absolutely ludicrous on the face of it.

The Hebrews have never been a monotyistic people ever in history.

You cannot prove that at all.

They have never been a worshipper of one God.

What the term is is not monotyistic.

It's he-no, spell H-E-N-O, go look it up in a dictionary.

H-E-N-O, he-no means he-no-theistic means to pick one

God from a group. So to understand what I'm saying,

is if you have say 15 gods and they're all equal

and they're standing in front of you and you pick

one God that you are he is your favorite.

So you pick one God and you tell him I want to make

a pact with you. You'll be my God and I will be

your your follower. Well what you've done now

is you have picked one God from a group.

So we could say you are the worshipper of one God,

but that's not saying that there's only one God.

No, it's still one God you pick. And that's why

correctly understood, the Hebrews were a he-no-theistic people.

They pick one God. And that's why today we could say that they were worshippers of

one God, but then when you understand who were

the other gods, well that's why in the Bible it

says God said no, L-L-He-N-N-Stev, the God said,

"Come let us make man in our image, after our likeness.

" So it's not saying that God's

the God's made man-ish. No, the God's made a

new kind of man. They came here and intervened

in our evolution and created a new kind of creature

that the Hebrews call dumb, ADM. Look it up in a dictionary.

So therefore when you understand and to go on with this whole thing it opens up a

can of worms because in even Genesis 9-1, after

the flood of Noah's day, in Genesis 9-1, this is

after the flood, it says that God says to Noah and

his family after the flood, go forth, multiply,

and replenish the earth. So I asked the rabbis,

is that a correct translation, go forth, multiply,

and re-are, replenish the earth because re-means to do it again.

And rabbis said yes, obviously, if there were many people on the earth and God is

just destroyed then kind of with a great flood,

well if you're going to have people on the earth

again then somebody's going to have to re-are,

do it again, re-plenish the earth, make sense, and

I said to the rabbi, oh I have that to be the case,

then what about Genesis 128, where God is creating

Adam and Eve, and he says go forth, multiply,

and re-plenish the earth. Do it again, does

that mean that Adam and Eve were a new creation,

a re-creation of a new kind of creature?

Yes, obviously, in your face. There have been civilizations

on this earth from millions of years.

Fascinating information Jordan, ladies and gentlemen,

stay right with us, we'll be back after these words.

In the second hour of tonight's broadcast,

my special guest, Jordan Maxwell, dot com, today

of course my special guest, preeminent occult researcher, Mr.

Jordan Maxwell. Before the break, Jordan was talking about the possibility that

non-human entities had intervened in the possible

creation of the human species, not only the

current human condition, but may possibly be the

"gods" that the biblical texts of the old text

that Testament talked about, as he said, the

word "Elohim" is actually plural in Hebrew and it means "gods.

" Jordan, I want to ask you, I want to get your take.

We talk about the possibility that

these beings came here and had their own

intentions in mind and didn't really care too much

about us, they were going to use us for their

purposes, and then certain groups of human beings

chose one faction perhaps of these gods or

one of these beings among the many to worship

and to venerate. But how do you see the possibility

of their being the possibility of positive

non-human entities or presences that are here

to not use humanity but to uplift humanity so

that we might pursue our evolutionary development on our own?

Do you see any possible presences that

are here to assist us? I don't think so. No?

I don't think so. I think that if you look at the whole

picture and something I would add to what we've

said before, remember in the Ten Commandments,

the God, that particular God, Yahweh, that was

picked by the Hebrews, that particular God,

said one of the commandments you laid down on that

new arrangement that those people who chose them,

instead I am the Lord your God and I shall not have

strange gods before me. I am the Lord your God,

not all my God is the whole universe.

Now I am the God you chose, so I am the Lord your God

and I shall not have other gods before me.

You didn't say the word I was a God. I just don't want you

worshiping any other God because you made an

agreement with me. And so it's like the God you

told the girlfriend, I'm going to be your steady,

I'm going to be your boyfriend, I don't want

to see you with other boards. I'm your boyfriend,

I'm your steady, I don't want to see you dating other.

Well the concept was the same, the God that they picked said I am the Lord your God,

and I know when any other gods coming before

me, I don't care if you want to dabble with

some of their silly stuff but don't worship

any gods before me because I'm the one that you picked, I'm the Lord your God.

So when you understand how these scriptures are to be interpreted

correctly and how the words in the Bible are

telling you something it's encoded and people don't

understand being words and encoded, symbolic.

That's why they even ask Jesus, they ask Jesus,

why is it you talk in riddles and you're only

talking only and the Bible said the only talk riddles only.

That's the only way Jesus taught

was in riddles and what was the other term that was yours.

But the point being that you're only talking to riddles and then Jesus said

I talk in riddles because I don't want you

getting saved, I don't want you around me, I don't

want you hearing and getting saved, I don't want

you around me at all. So I speak in such a way

that the whole world will hear me, but only

those who the father calls will understand what

I'm really saying. Only those who are truly

spiritual and who are chosen by the father will hear.

The rest of you will all just, you know, you look

at your eyes and you don't see it, you listen

with your ears and you don't hear and with your heart you don't get the sense of it.

So that's why I talk in riddles and teach in

riddles because I don't want you to understand.

Most people I don't want them in my company.

So I get the point. This is why things are encoded in government,

government and closed messages because they don't want other people to read things.

If it gets out, people won't be able to read what the government

is saying because it's encoded. And so that's

why today I'm saying that both the old and new

testament are heavily encoded. Well, Blackout,

we've heard all kinds of books and lectures about Bible codes.

When you go back and look at that

idea because it's true, there are codes in the Bible.

We have local codes. And so when you stop

looking at words and terms as the rabbis used

to tell me, you know, the way you Gentiles read

something, you've got your own take on it and you

proclaim yourself to know what you're talking about,

you've got your own claim. When at point of fact,

there are encodes, there are coded messages in there

that the rabbinical authorities know that you don't know.

And so you need to go back and do your homework.

If you're going to translate something

correctly, you better go back and look at the culture

of the people who wrote it. When the words met back then, not what they mean today.

And look at the entire picture as an inclement message.

And when you do that, you begin to see that there's

more than one God, there's many gods.

And when Adam and Eve and Kate and Abel, Kate and

kills his brother, and God is going to banish

him from his family and take him away and send

him out to the wilderness where Kate says to God,

oh my God, don't send me out there.

I'll be a diagon. And if you send me out there, they're

going to find me and when they find me, they're

going to kill me. And God says, no, I'm not going

to let them kill you. I'll put a mark on you.

So they may find you and they're not going to kill you.

And you've got to ask yourself, what are you talking about?

Does Adam and Eve, Kate and Abel,

Kate just killed his brother? And now God is sending

him out into the world and Kate says to God,

don't send me out there because anybody out there

that finds me will kill me. And now he's got God

believing that somebody out there because God

says, no, I won't let them kill you if they find you.

Who are you talking about?

That's in out there that's different from you and they'll

kill you if they find you. No, I've done those only three people at this point.

Adam and Eve and Kate and Abel. And now there's only three

people who gives one killed the other one.

So what are you talking about? Well, what we're talking

about is that there have been civilizations on

this earth for millions and millions of years.

The history of life, human, intelligent life,

or intelligent life goes back millions of years.

And this is why it says, again, I'm saying this

is why it says in Genesis 1 28, when God is

reading out of the name of Adam and Eve, go for

multiply and read, finish the year. Do it again.

So you need to understand that there's a bigger

picture here and most people are no idea how big

this picture really is how far back it goes.

We're finding temples in enormous structures

and the oceans of the world. We're finding

pyramids on the ocean, on the ocean floor and the Atlantic.

We're finding enormous structures and

temples off the coast of Cuba, off the coast of Japan, Okinawa.

We're finding enormous temples around the world in the bottom of oceans.

What does that tell you? When the oil rates are drilling

into the earth and the oceans, they go down miles

beneath the ocean to hit the oil. But before they

hit the oil, they're sucking up the stuff that

they're cutting through and they're finding

handmade artifacts under the ocean floor. Wake up.

You need to wake up and find out that the earth has got history. You're not aware of.

And I think what you're saying in so many words

is that in this replenishing of the earth after

the deluge, what was really being done was they were

just rebooting the matrix of slavery all over again.

We'll be right back every once they with us as well.

Jordan on the other side of the break, you were talking about that there have been

many, many ancient civilizations going back for

possibly even millions of years. And this system

of slavery has really been ongoing and has been

wiped out and rebooted possibly several times.

To switch that back to what's going on in the modern

world, obviously we're still entrenched in a

system of control and slavery. So I want to ask you

what could be construed as a controversial question, but here it goes anyway.

What is your personal take on the ideology that is referred to as pacifism?

And let me get your take on that first.

And then the second part of this question

I want to ask is, is there an inherent right

of self defense on the part of people who other

individuals consider as their slaves or their

property to use their physical ability, their

physical power to physically rebel and free

themselves from that imposed condition that is imposed upon them called slavery?

Well, you know, I think that whole thing is on the obvious.

It's really a philosophical question,

how you view freedom. I mean, I'm in the system that I live in.

I'm not complaining about it.

I live in a system. I understand it.

I'm the one that's been talking about from many years about

how the system works. And, as a matter of fact, I

don't have any problem with it as such because I

realize it's just part of it is what it is.

It's part of the continual flow of power over the human

creatures and over the, you know, intelligent

creatures of the earth have always been dominated

by occult powers by hidden powers of the world.

We call them illuminati today.

I don't care what you call it. Obviously, at the top of the

world, you can go like in the organized crime,

you have the street criminals and then they're

captains and couples and then after that, you have,

you know, the heads of the families and after

that, you've got the permission and after that,

and they just keep going up to ladder and up

to ladder to finally come to the bottom line,

the bottom line is the big boss boss of all bosses at the top.

Well, the boss of all bosses at the

top in this theological world, I believe, are demonic.

I believe that this within structure says,

Michael says that all of your gods are demons and

you're worshiping the worship of demons and devils.

I think there's probably something to do that

because I think there's exactly what's happening.

I think the religions today are the, of the trauma

of higher other world intelligences who have

misleading the whole human race and that's the

whole race, you know, go back to the scripture

where it says that Jesus will take him to the

pinnacle of the temple and shown all the key

things of the worlds that I would give you, all these kingdoms of your worshiping.

Well, obviously you couldn't give all the

kingdoms of the world if you don't own them.

Well, the scripture actually says that God of

this world is a devil and all the religions

of the world are from the devil, from evil, demonic depravity.

Well, again, like we started to show

off again by saying, by their fruits, you shall know them.

So what is the fruitage of the three major religions in the world today, Judy?

Isn't it because he had a DNS line? His world chaos,

world wars, violence. And we can start dissecting

each one of those religions and begin to see

the real story behind what these religions really

are, where they've come from. And then you get

into the sexual conversions and the lies and

the money growing and all the entertainment, the

propaganda, wars and the violence and the

mistreatment of children and the horrible stuff there.

The circumcision of children and babies and cutting the force gives off of children's

of babies, penis and sucking the blood.

What is all of this incredible stuff that we humans

are subjected to and nobody has seen the question, where does this stuff come from?

Where do these high be as about God? And I remember back

in years ago, when you're discussing something

with other people, define your terms, understand

that other people may have a different view

of the word you're using. So that's why I

always ask where we're talking about theology.

That's another very interesting word, theology, because it goes back to the word

theos, which is God in Greek, theos of theo in Greek as God.

That's why the ancient Greeks,

where they used to go to hear about God, Christians

go to churches, well, the ancient Greeks,

and then go to churches. They want to feed theaters.

So it was called the God show.

They went to a theater, and the theater talked to them about

theism or theology. So this is where today

we get the idea that when you go into a big show,

if you're going into a theater, well, that's what you're doing.

When you go to a church, you're going into churches at the air. It's a show, the God

show, and people pay money and they are entertained

and then they go out and they are unified,

because they saw a good movie. They are no good

sermon or something. Does it mean you've learned anything?

No, the same people have gone to the

same church for 46 years, and you can ask them a

question of theological question, and they can't answer it.

They don't know what you're talking about.

So I've got to say to myself, if you're going

to a theater or to a class in a theater or to a

church for 40 years, and I ask you a question and

you can't answer it, that tells me how good of an

education you've been getting at this theater or

this church, which is by their fruits, you show all of them.

So when you start breaking down religion, you find out that the people who are very

religious also are totally ignorant, ill-informed,

unread, and have no understanding of the word

God and where it comes from, they have no concept

of what they're talking about and you're talking

about, they use the term Christ, priestiles,

Christ, Jesus, where did these words come from?

So God, as I've always said, I'm few famous for

saying that is that God is simply dogs, they're all

backwards, and that's why you have dogmen in the

church, you begin to understand the anthropology

of the hidden or cult significance of religions

where they have come from. Why do we only have

three major religions, like Islam, Judaism, Christianity?

Why three, there's a reason why?

Why do all religions, almost all religions in

the world have trying gods, you know, the Hindus

have brother, indigenous Shiva, Egyptians have

Alzheimer's, Pisces, Horus, the cow that Christians

have father, son, Holy Ghost, and the Jews have

Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, all ancient religions

have a trial of God. Why, it goes back very, very

far, there's a very good reason for the concept

of a trial in God. The trial in God is one God,

but three divine persons, where it goes back to son worship.

The son in the morning was the newborn savior, and the son is your savior,

and it does rise, it rises every morning, so

he was your risen savior, and if you don't

make the son is your savior, wait till it don't come up.

So the son was your risen savior, at noon, the son

became known to the ancient world as the most high.

Why can't it don't get any higher than high noon?

So therefore he's the most high, later on he's dying,

so therefore it's the baby in the morning, the

morning, he becomes full grown and 12th and now he's

going to die, and his old age, three persons and one God.

Hold that thought right there, we'll come up to another break ladies and

gentlemen, my special guest tonight, Jordan Maxwell, stay with us.

Most Mark Passio, my website, whatonearthishappening.

com, this evening my special guest, a cult researcher, Jordan Maxwell.

Before we go back to asking Jordan a couple more questions,

I have just a couple more questions, I want to

run by Jordan, and then we're going to go to your

calls in the third hour. I want to give Jordan

the opportunity in this second half of this hour

to let the listening audience know about a very

stressful situation that he's been undergoing,

regarding actually of all things his own name.

Jordan, do you want to inform the audience about this?

Yes, well thank you, it is very distressing, you have no idea how distressing it is,

you know because I'm almost 74 years old, I

don't really understand the technology of today,

I've got a phone cell phone, I don't know how to use it.

I'm just doing the best I can with just working on computers, and so I don't really

understand the technology of today, I'm studying

my subject, and so I have to depend on somebody to help me because I have nothing,

I own nothing, I have no problem, I don't know the

phone, I don't have a family, I have no checkbook,

no credit card, no card, I own and have nothing,

so I have to depend on someone who's younger,

who's been to help me to do my work, all I want is

to put my work out to the world and do what I do,

but I need help doing that because I don't

understand the technology, so when someone comes to

visit me, which people do all the time, they come

to visit me, and they see how I live with nothing,

they say oh my god, let me help you, I only

want to help you, and I say I wish you what,

I appreciate if somebody would help me, so they

say oh yeah, let me do your website for you,

just me and we'll handle your distribution product

and we'll do the, we'll connect your email for

you, and we'll just help you, and so all we

need to do is we need to get permission to do

this for you, so we need to assign this piece

of paper that gives us permission to be your

webmaster and do all this stuff for you, so

I do I assign it, and then they have my web,

now they have ownership of my website for me,

and so what happens is, and has happened is

when I found out the webmaster I had four years

ago, four or five, four and a half years ago,

when I found out that this young man was not

who I thought he was, and I found out this

proclivities and who he went with is trying to

like this really like, I didn't know, I'm just an

old man and a young man comes in once to help

people, but when I found out what he was really

all about, it shocked me, and so I decided I

don't want you to do it with me, I don't want you

to my company anymore, I don't want you to do

anything for me anymore, just give me back my website,

and you go your way up your mind to which he

said, oh, no, no, nobody walked away from me,

and so I found out that he went into the back of

my website and changed the ownership from my name

to his name, he changed the email, my private email that I'd have with my website,

he redirected my private email to himself, and of

course he had already redirected the bank account

to his personal bank account, and then behind my back not knowing that he went to

San, to Washington, D.C., and copyrighted all of

my books and tapes and videos that I've produced

over the years, and copyrighted them all, he

combined my back and I didn't really think about it,

then he went to the trademark department and tried

to trademark my name so that he would actually

own my name, my product, my money, my email,

my bank account, everything, he owns it all,

and when I confronted him on this, he said, look

it, just get out there and make me some money,

and so at that point I was devastated, I

didn't realize the depth that people will go,

because I've had people cheating me about four,

but this took the cake, I've never had anyone steal

everything I own, and then talked to me like

I was a fool, so I had to talk to lawyers,

and my lawyers of course would say, oh, this

is terrible, we could do something about this,

but don't cost you 10,000, I don't have a nickel,

I never have anyone, and whatever money I did

have, it goes to him now, so for years, so the

past four years, all the products that have been

sold on my old website jordantvexwell.

com, jordantvexwell.com has not belonged to me for four years,

because my webmaster, he's the one that has the

codes and the passwords and the username, I don't,

I never knew anything about username, I don't

know what you think about passwords and codes,

I'm 74 years old, but he does, so he went into

my website, stole my website, stole my money,

redirected my emails, which has mailed for them

told by attorneys, and now people writing me all

over the world, goes to him, and he answers

as it was me, and he's sending out, you know,

invitations to donate money to jordantvexwell, he needs your help, financial help,

and so people are sending money to him, unbelievable, unbelievable criminality,

and in your face, but I can't do anything

about it, because I'm broke, I have nothing,

I've got my life's work has been stolen from me,

and so the best I can do is just get a lawyer,

if I had the money, so I've had some people come in and say, jordant, let us help you,

you don't have to sign anything, you don't have to give us your life's work,

but I'm not going to steal from you, we'll get you a

good attorney, and we'll put a kick stoner or something

up there, some kind of a donate button, to at

least get some money in, to get in the attorney,

to get your life back, to get my work back, so

that's why I have a little radio show that was done

for me, and I don't know if you think about radio, let me have to put a show together,

I just do what I do, but I am already on show

me how it's a little podcast called jordant,

Maxwell Show, very simple, the jordant medical

show, and on that, I've got about 36 little

or 36 different shows, it's all free, I have guessed

on and I talk around well on myself on my own

show, but it's a podcast, jordant Maxwell Show,

and if you go there, there's a button for a kick

stoner, and there's another button there for

a direct donation to me, so I've just asked

him anyone who would like to help me get my life

back, and be able to pay an attorney, because I've

got a very good copyright, motion picture, copyright

attorney, who saw my plight, and said, jordant,

this is criminal, let me take care of this in court,

I'll do this, I'm going to get your life back,

your money, and everything else that was stolen from you, so, glad, but you know,

attorney has passed money, I don't have any

for all these, he's working on it anyway, so I

appreciate that, but I would like to be able

to pay him, and I'd like to also continue to do

the radio shows, but I don't have the money for

that too, because if you know who I'd like to,

I'll still go money to do a radio show, continue

with it, I don't have the money to do it.

All expenses associated with equipment, with

bandwidth, with hosting, it's not free as many people think.

It's not as easy as people think it is to do as far as the technical know-how goes.

When I edit this podcast, I sit here for an hour or two, even after the show is done,

I edit out the commercials, I have to upload it

to a site, I have to build an article on a content

management system, it's not like you press a button

and a podcast puts it hosts itself, it doesn't happen.

I don't know how to do any of that, I

don't even know, I'm just learning how to work out

computers, I don't know how to do that, but I have

a dear friend, a couple of guys that have come

in to help me, and they put a website together for

the podcast and the show, and they put a little

Kickstarter up there, so I can have a Kickstarter.

By the way, I've heard your new radio show,

the new incarnation, the Jordan Maxwell show,

and I just want to say it's absolutely brilliant,

it's really great work that you're doing on that

show, I've listened to them all, and I think

it's a phenomenal show, and let's be very clear

and tell the audience the exact website that

is yours, it is JordanMaxwellShow.com, that is your now official website,

so anybody that is going to any other website, that

is not Jordan Maxwell's official site, and if you

are putting any kind of donations toward that site

or buying anything through that site, that is not

going to Jordan, none of those proceeds will go to Jordan.

The only site that is valid for Jordan

is JordanMaxwellShow.com, be very specific, and make sure you get to that correct site.

So Jordan, we'll pick this up on the other side of

the break, ladies and gentlemen, don't go anywhere,

you're listening to what on earth is happening with

my special guest for the evening, Jordan Maxwell, we'll be right back.

I'm your host Mark Passio, my website,

whatonearthishappening.com, my special guest this evening,

a cult researcher, Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, in this segment, I'll let you wrap up your thoughts

on the very unfortunate series of events that

have been conducted against you. Let's call this

what it really is, this is pure and simple identity crime.

I mean, the individual stole your very identity and stole the proceeds of your

life's work and the research that you've done over

the many years, and I'll let you continue and wrap

up what you want to tell the listening audience regarding that situation.

Well, that's exactly what happened when I found

out, like I said, what caused this is what I found

about any of you, whether it's private life was

all really about. I wanted nothing more to do with

them and I told them that I said, because, you

know, you work for me. You know, I'm supposed to

be my friend and helping me. You're younger than I am.

I thought you wouldn't help me.

I don't want you around me. I don't want you to do with your mouth now.

And, you know, so this response was, okay, I own you now. I own you, I own your

name, I own your product, I own your bank account,

I own everything. So now, you know, you're not

going to get rid of me. I own you. So I was told by everyone.

I was told you need to get it

out there, old man, and make me some money to I own you.

I own your name, I own your website,

I own your email, the bank account, the product.

You know, he fell about, he fell about an

affidavit about the penalty of perjury and said it

to the trademark department to trademark my name.

Then steal my name from me. Well, he got caught

on that one from Fred's calling on that one.

And so he backed off of that, but he still

copyrighted all my products, stole everything from

me and that's the opinions. And so that's what my

friends have put this, you know, this dummy button

up to hopefully donate some money so that I can

pay my lawyer and get my life back. That's one of mine. Do you want to thank you?

Do you want to out this individual by name on the air here tonight?

Well, I think it's I think it's already out there.

I think it's already out there.

The name was Joseph J. O. S. He has Joseph Dolan's L. E. O.

L. E. C. A. L. Dolan's L. And it's his father and his brother.

We have them in the company.

There are three of them in the company. Joseph Dolan's L

and Jacob Dolan's L. I'm blaming them by name

because it's good that people should know not to deal with individuals like this.

And the only way they're going to know is if they're

outed by name right there. So that's what the

science is already out there on the lawsuit to be

go to go to the federal trademark department to see

where they signed it and and trying to trademark

my name and stole my money and and Jacob Dolan's

L. Tony. We've got a new plan for you. Oh, man.

You're going to get out there and make us some money.

So get off your lazy bucket, get out there and

start making us some money. So at that point, I

just, I don't know, this is a 20-sexual kid and he's

telling me at 74 stuff like that. So that's what I guess.

God, unfortunately, that's the God that they worship.

You know, I will be sure with this podcast to include the proper link to your site

and I'll have a link there for your Kickstarter

campaign as well. And that is under the

player for tonight's show. If you're listening

at the What On Earth is happening.com radio show

page, you'll see under the player. There is a link

underneath Jordan's biography his short bio there.

It says you could visit the Jordan Maxwell

Kickstarter campaign. So if you feel like Jordan's

information has been a value to you through the

many years he's been doing this research and

providing it for people, you can make a donation

at that Kickstarter page. So Jordan, if you want

to do a few more questions in the remainder of

this segment, and then we'll go to some calls

in the next segment and hear what listeners have to ask. Okay? Sounds good. Great.

Just a couple of quick personal questions, if I may.

What would you say to you is the most

influential, if you had to pick one single influential

book that you want to one book to recommend

to people, what would that most single influential

book on your entire mindset throughout your life

have been and why? Well, that's really a difficult

question because I have hundreds of reference books

and one half of them are prices pieces of work and and they're profoundly important.

But I guess I would have to say, for especially if you're

interested in the modern day world that you're living

in, the book is called Fire in the Minds of Men,

FIRA Fire in the Minds of Men. It's written by

James Billington and James Billington today is

the chief library of Congress. So you don't get

any more academically correct than the chief

library and for the library of Congress.

And he has written many books, but this one

particular thick volume called Fire in the Minds

of Men is a mind trip reading it.

This guy has an incredible storyteller, but he documents

all of the occultism and politics, religion,

secrets, societies, the Muslims, the words,

the terms, the Illuminati, where the Democratic

and Republican Party really came from and talks

about the Illuminati, the Mormons, the Jehovah's

Witnesses, the sects, the cults and the money,

the banking industry, the whole entire dirty

world of hidden knowledge, hidden power,

hidden wisdom, the chief library and for the

library of Congress, James Billington wrote up a

novel about Fire in the Minds of Men.

That should take you about 10 years to go through that.

All right, great. Let's see what other questions that I have here. How about if you

could spend some time with any individual living

or deceased past or present? And you could pick

their brain for a while. Who would it be and why?

Well, again, I don't have to think about that

because there have been so many brilliant people

that I've already been in the press and the

presence of all my life I have been in bless to be

in the company of extraordinarily brilliant people.

I think it would be my girlfriend's father,

my first girlfriend in California, her father.

I would love to be able to sit and talk with him again.

But that's a personal thing because

he was one of the most extraordinary experiences I've ever had.

My first girlfriend would have a father.

You may have heard me tell the story about it.

And about him and my girlfriend

when I was 19 years old. But he was an extraordinary

man and I would love to be able to talk with him again.

Have you ever heard the story I told

about my girlfriend and his father for her father?

I have not. Go ahead. Well, I was about in 1959 and 19 years old, 19 year old kid,

freshly from Florida and I'm in Los Angeles and

North Hollywood. And one morning I go into the

restaurant in downtown North Hollywood, in 1959.

And there was no room anywhere except one chair at the counter.

So I'm sitting down next to this young girl. I might teach you a photo at 17 or 18.

And we get to talk, you can find that she only lived a couple blocks from being a

mile, lived about three blocks in town.

She had walked downtown. I had two. So we walked back home together.

And so we started meeting each other all weekend downtown and we walked home.

And so but she lived about two blocks further than I did.

So she knew where I lived. And I never followed home.

So I didn't know exactly where she lived.

And one night she came over to my house and she said

my dad wants to talk to you. And of course that

wasn't interesting to talk to her father.

She said, "No, my father's very important, very

interesting and he wants to try to do something.

" So I thought that sounded interesting.

So I went with her and when I went there to kind of

short her, my girlfriend and her younger sister,

she's the two girl set on the floor.

The mother was in the kitchen. The father and I set on a long sofa.

He set on one end. I set on the other.

And we were talking and you know, just small

talk asked me how I'm working and how did you

like the job, how long have you been here, center, center.

And so I felt all right about him.

But there was something very, very, very strange about him.

But I felt confident and wasn't threatened

because he was talking about normal things that

I could really do. And so in the conversation,

he then, when I was feeling all right about

him, because he realized that was very sensitive to Louis once.

And then he said to me, he said, "Remember back when you were eight years old and

you're dead, built and do back porch back in Florida and your uncle helped him.

You're dead, built and do back porch. Remember that?

He turned down the old back porch and he built the new one

and he built the back porch with green lumber and

a smell of funny. Remember, you were about eight

years old and your dad built and moved back porch.

You remember doing something that happening?

And it frightened me. I didn't want to show tears

in front of my girlfriend, but it scared me,

because it was right. I did do. I did do back

porch when I was eight. And I went, "Well,

what do you know that?" And then he said to me,

he said, "Remember, one night you were in bed,

you were supposed to be sleeping, but you got up

and you went out in the back porch and looked at the moon and the moon was full.

You remember doing that? And I just looked at him because I

didn't remember doing that." And he said, "You

looked up at the moon and you were kicking the

wind with your finger because the smell of funny,

like the green lumber and you were picking the

pieces of, you know, with your finger and putting

in your mouth like a toothpick. Remember?

" And I just looked at him because he was absolutely frightening me.

I had no idea in the world how you knew that. And he said to me, "Well,

how in the world did I know that?

" And I said, "I don't know how you know that." He said, "Well,

did you do what I said?" I said, "Yes, you're right.

You need to know how when I know that." And I said, "I don't know.

" And he said, "Well, I was there. I saw you.

" "We were sitting on the other side of the break. Stay with us, folks.

" Welcome back, everyone. You're listening to

what on earth is happening. We're into the third

hour for this evening with my special guest, a cult

researcher, Jordan Maxwell. Jordan, I'll let you

wrap up the story that you were telling about

a former girlfriend's father. And I'll let you

pick it up where you left off before the last break.

Yeah, so he said to me, I'm front of the two

girls, as I said, sitting on the floor, and he and

I all started with all this stuff.

And he said, "You know, he told me about my dad building a

golf course with my alcohol, which he did.

" And he said that he used green lumber in a smell funny, which it did.

And then he said that one night,

he said, "You were supposed to be a bear that you got up.

" And he went out and settled on the back porch and we were looking at the phone.

No, which I did. I remember that this statement.

And he said, "And then you talked to God, didn't you?

" And I just looked at him.

He said, "Well, did you or didn't?" And he said, "Yes, I did.

" And he said, "Well, what did you say to God?

" And I didn't say anything to him. I just looked at him.

He said, "Well, I'll tell you what you said.

" You said to God that you wanted to do something

important with your life. You wanted your life

to have a purpose for something to do.

And you wanted your life to be important to do something with it.

And he said, "So that what you said?

" And I looked at him and I said, "Yes, that's what I said.

" And he said to me, "How did I know that?

How would I know all of this?

" And I said, "I don't know how you know. I have no idea how you know this.

" And he said, "I know this because we were there.

We were right there watching you.

" And I said, "What do you mean we were watching

me?" And he said, "We were there. How would I know

everything that you did?" Everyone was there.

And I said, "I don't understand what you mean.

" And he said, "Well, it's not important. What you need to know

is that we've been watching you for a long time.

And you did ask, after all, you did ask.

So we're going to give you an opportunity to do something with your life.

" And he said, "But what you're going to do for us, you will not do it to the very

last part of your life." So just understand,

we have something for you to do and you will do it.

But it will not come until the very last

part of your life. So I asked him, "So what is

it I'm supposed to do?" And he said, "That's not

important because even if I explained it to you, you

wouldn't understand." Now, but there will come a day

and when in the last part of your life, where you

will know what you have to do and what you're doing.

And so, and you'll know what we have for you to

do. So as it turns out, that was very startling.

That was a very incredible experience. But I do know. I do know what I have to do,

what I'm doing and why I do it. But I felt a man to all make it.

I felt a man. And I thought I was doing something of value to help people to

research and wake up and to, and so I started talking

about the conspiracies in government back in 1859, 1661.

I was going around giving the lectures

at Little Mickey Mouse occasion, like in bookstores and women's clubs and all that.

Back in the early 60s and 70s. So, you know, I've been on my life's work.

Well, now I'm toward the end of my life's work.

Now, I'm 74 years old.

I now see that all the things I was talking about that

were happening in the secret society of the

Illuminati and the federal reserve and all that

it relates to Hitler's and all of these subjects

that I've been talking about. I used to talk

about these things in Hollywood for years.

I would go around to the motion picture studio that

night and the working class people, not the

executive, but the working people would get me

in and I would go into the sound stages that

night at one of others in different motion picture

studios and get slide presentations, Little

Mickey Mouse cheap little side presentations,

do a bunch of people, you know, all these were,

you know, off from work and just sitting on the

sound stage and we set up a camera, I mean a

projector and I was talking about the Illuminati and

and that it's called society and all the stuff

going on by the religion and the dark of cults,

forces in the world and nights, titlers, and women, not even banking and all that.

Well, today, now, of course, it's everywhere in Hollywood.

Now it's all over the DaVinci code and national

treasure about the law of the rest of it, but

this is the stuff I was talking about being many

years ago and today, you know, today I have far

more than I had never told today and a lot of

the stuff I can't talk about in public, but I'm trying my best to alert my fellow man

to all the dangers which are going on and what

I've received for is young people coming in

and taking my website, taking my everything outwork

or stealing at all and treating me like a fool,

so I just, my feeling is at this point, I'm

very philosophical about my life, my mortality,

I, I, I've already come to terms with that, I'm

not going to be able to show you, so I do the best

I can to help my fellow man in the face of

people stealing from me lying to me and taking it

within my own, but I feel the dollar bills will

eventually have to go to jail because they have

really committed some serious crimes and they,

they have no idea that there are some felonies,

big time felonies that's going to put them

in jail and those days are coming, so I just

wait on the great spirit, may not call God because

I believe in God, so I just wait and see what

the great spirit will do to, to help me to get

my work back and get my life back because I feel

that I still have a lot to do yet and I'm sure that that's part of my life.

And, and you will continue to do it, and you'll

do it effectively because you've been doing

the great work for a very long time and the universe is going to open up its arms and

ultimately reward you for having done that work.

I feel that is the, the greatest form of

protection that anybody can really bring upon

themselves is when they step into the truth and

speak it and do so unapologetically because

it is the right thing to do as you have done.

I, I, I appreciate that because I personally

have a very strong belief in the presence of the God.

I think it's looked out my mind that there's

a higher intelligence for family-wide and all

powerful, pervading the universe and especially

us, but I don't have any problem with God.

I have a problem with organized corporate takeover

of the world by men who are dark and people

and have sinister plots against the human rights.

Well, I understand it. I know it's all about

the love and talking about for 15 years, but I

really would like to get out from under these

young times who have stolen everything from an old man and really killed me on my own,

on my own website and really killed me a public.

And at the same time, they're really killing me

and calling me names. They're trying to sell my,

my product, obviously, because they're making

a lot of money while they're very killing me.

They should tell you something about their mentality.

Tells you everything you need to know about their

character because their character is based in,

in the desire for famine. That's their God. Yeah.

You know, especially that's going to bring them cosmic retribution that being there.

Well, don't know about it. Yeah, don't know about it.

Absolutely. Especially I chose to build the,

the, the kid with his private life stuff that I know about.

I, I, you have no idea in the world that's his into. So when I found out, I

think what they do with him is immediate reaction is walking.

What are you going to do about it?

I own everything. I'm in control.

So I've changed everything over to me. So I own it all.

And he probably thinks with the corrupt court

systems and everything that, you know, they'll,

they'll side in his favor or something like that. That's probably where he's been.

Yeah. Yeah. So I do the best I can. I'm still doing what I can do.

And Jordan, we, we appreciate you for doing it. So, uh, you want to take some calls?

Absolutely. That's great. Great. Let's go to the phones.

First call around the line this evening is

Jay and Pennsylvania. Jay, welcome. Oh, how?

Jay is this Jay Parker. Yeah. Jay, uh, I'm going to get

to your call on the other side of the break.

A commercial break is, is catching this right here,

but stay with us. And you'll be the first person

to be able to ask Jordan a question on the other side.

Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to what on earth is happening with my special

guest Jordan Maxwell. We'll be right back.

Welcome back, everyone. You're listening to what on earth

is happening here on Republic broadcasting.

I'm your host, Mark Passio, my website, what on earth is happening.

com special guest this evening.

Jordan Maxwell, we were about to go to the phones.

I apologize. I wasn't paying attention to the

time clock and the last segment. So, uh, we were

on the line with Jay Parker in Philadelphia.

Jay, uh, is one of the, uh, speakers of the first

two freer mine conferences right here in Philadelphia.

Jay is also a, uh, uh, survivor of satanic ritual abuse.

And Jay actually hosts his own show on satanic ritual abuse. And, uh, uh, uh,

it's a show that also discusses solutions to

the problems that humanity faces in our world.

Jay, uh, welcome to what on earth is happening.

And, uh, what do you have for us this evening?

Well, I just wanted to, uh, thank Maxwell, Jordan

Maxwell for all the work he's done, uh, certainly a

great volume of work. And, uh, although the numbers

are small, uh, I believe that people who are

doing due diligence and researching and studying,

uh, they, they are real human beings and, uh,

should be encouraged to wake up and to long these, uh,

secrets of the occult. I have a question for Jordan

pertaining to something that was on his website

years ago, uh, that I saw. And, uh, it was a

symbol, uh, like it, it was in a circle.

And it was like an electronic symbol.

And you were asking if anyone knew what that symbol was on your website.

And I saw that symbol. I was shown it,

uh, when I was about five years old in the,

uh, Illuminati, uh, group that I grew up in,

and they were asking me if I knew what that symbol was.

And I wanted to know if Jordan still

had a copy of that symbol. And if, uh, he could, uh, get it to Mark Passio.

Yes. Let me, let me, uh, uh, on your talk about

the, uh, the symbol where the little arrows pointing

all out in all directions from circles and little

arrows and long, uh, arrows pointing out for my circle.

Is that what you were talking about?

The one I saw on my, I, I put there on my website

that I saw this on my, uh, on my computer.

Is that, is that interesting? Yes. Yeah. Someone, someone sorry to you.

I've given you posted it on your website.

And we're asking me, uh, people, you know what this is.

And I have, I've we shown that exact same symbol when I was about five years old

and my mother asked me, she was in Illuminati, which

worked for the DuPont. And, uh, she, uh, by the way,

was the one who, my control program, John DuPont,

the era of the DuPont fortune that kills, uh,

the rest of her show, uh, she set him up.

And I just want to say that I, I really want to get a

hold of that symbol again. So I have, uh, I think it happens.

If you want to, uh, email, uh, my,

go on my website, join me Maxwell show and,

and, and ask for that symbol. And I'll tell the

people who are manning my site to look for

your email and put a cult symbol in the, in the title.

Um, and then I'll, I'll send it to you.

I've got it. Boy, I don't, I would never forget that symbol.

So I've been copies of it all by hard drive.

So yeah, I've got it. I'll send it to you.

I would be surprised to see what you might have to see about it.

Well, that's quite Jordan. And, uh, I just

want to thank you again and keep up good work.

Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Do the email. We all get back to you.

Thank you. Excellent. Thanks so much for the call, Jay.

Let's hear from Don in South Carolina.

Don, your live on what on earth is happening with my

special guest, Jordan Maxwell. Welcome to John.

Uh, hello, Mark. How are you doing? It's John, by the way.

John, I'm sorry. It's okay. Doing Jordan.

How are you doing? Well, apparently. Well, I think

I, uh, I just wanted you to know, uh, I'm about,

I'm 65 years old. And you can, this is one person

that you can say to your responsible for changing his life.

Because I kind of grew up with a lot of

this stuff when I was coming up. I grew up as a,

you know, was witness. And I learned as an early age

how wrong that was. So I got very interested

in investigating things, especially in the,

the biblical sense, because the entire Western

world's strategies is based on their interpretation of the Bible.

So I spent my early years doing a lot of that.

And then after my first divorce, I was in a hotel room and watching TV.

This was before a whole lot of things started on the internet.

And, uh, watching TV and only one of these oddball

stations, it had Jordan Maxwell. I've never seen Jordan before.

And it was showing some Illuminati stuff.

And Jordan gave, gave a speech.

I can't remember what it was. But I thought about that for

a couple of years. And when I found Jordan on the

internet, I probably spent a month sitting in

there watching every video that he did, every video I could find.

And I just, you know, he really made

a big, big difference in my life. And I just wanted

him to know that. Well, I appreciate it.

Thank you very much. I just, I'm just doing what I do.

And hopefully, you know, whoever's supposed to hear me

well, whoever's not supposed to hear me well.

And so I appreciate it though. You don't have any good comments.

I have a, I have a question for, for you, Jordan, if I lay and also one for Mark too.

You were talking earlier about the Hebrews being, you know, their, um, uh, he don't

see, he don't see Yistica in that correct.

He doesn't see Yistica. What about the Zionist sect?

Is that, does they not, um, or at least put out

the idea that their amount of Yistica? Yeah.

Well, Zionism is not Jewish. It has zero nothing

to do with being Hebrew or Jewish.

It's a, it's a very, very hidden, well-hidden political society.

It's a very profoundly dark and, and well-hidden operation. It has nothing to do

with being Jewish at all. Zionism has zero to

do with being Jewish and Israeli period.

And the reason why some of the things you need to know

about the Zionist is that when the original

Zionist, she and Wiesman and, and her soul,

her soul, she and Wiesman, the people who were

founding Zionism, who they really were, what

they were connected to, the secret society that

they were connected to. But when the Zionist was

looking to form their own homeland, their own

base of operations, political base of operations,

the first place they picked was Uganda, African.

That's a fact in history.

They take Uganda, but the British after looking at it decided

that doesn't sell like it's going to work.

So they abandoned, the Zionist abandoned Uganda as

the, as the homeland of the Jews. And then they

went to, they went to, they went to four other

places on the earth. They even talked about,

they even had discussions with the president

at the time about the president of the U.S.

, about having a homeland in Texas, but the

detective, but the Texas state and the, and the

federal government decided that's not going to be

very smart having a Zionist homeland in Texas.

So they abandoned that one. Well, there's about

three or four more other places that they tried to set up their homeland.

And finally, they decided, well, let's go to the Middle East

and nobody knows who's there. And so they went

to the Middle East. Well, you need to understand

that if it was really based on the Bible and the

biblical idea of God's chosen people, they would

have went to Israel to start with. They wouldn't

have gone to Uganda and Texas or all the other places.

It's in the history box. Look at all the

different places that Zionism was set up all that didn't work.

Jordan, we're coming up to another break.

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back

after these words. You're listening to what on

earth is happening. Stay with us. Back every one.

This is what on earth is happening. I'm your host Mark Passio.

My special guest this evening, Jordan Maxwell, we were taking a call from John from

South Carolina, and he had asked Jordan about Zionism.

And Jordan, you were talking about the orders within Zionism had been debating among

themselves about setting up a base, a political base of operations.

I'll let you pick it up from that point.

Well, like I said, it has nothing to do with God,

God gave this land to the Jewish people and

then, you know, this is the, uh, that it was in

both filled with a Bible prophecy and a bunch of both.

You go back to, you go back to the beginning

of Zionism and you read the Baron von Harrison,

she advisement, and the other Zionist was what they

were really talking about. If you go back and

read it and find out where the money came from,

always straight to money. Half the day that the

technical today of that always traced the money,

where did the money come from? And so, when you

traced the money behind Zionists, I've been traced

to seek the society that gave the money to the Zionists.

And then, when you see that the Zionists

wanted to establish their first moment, and like

I said, Africa, Uganda, and that didn't work,

and then they will put it in text. If that didn't work, well, they don't put it in.