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All right,
this might take a few minutes
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just to get the light right,
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'cause we've got
really harsh sun right now.
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But we're just gonna do a few.
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If you don't mind
doing just a few.
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You're just walking
this direction.
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I'm just gonna shoot you
as you kind of pass this--
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We're walking?
We're walking?
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You're walking.
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Yeah.
Like, swagger.
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You know,
I didn't wear my boots today,
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but you want me
to do a little--
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I think if you got
a little swagger, it'll go--
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All right, well, let me back up
and start over, then,
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-'cause, you know--
- You gotta feel it.
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I'm trying to get
a 30-minute call
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to just go over, like,
some FAQs
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that The New Yorker's
likely gonna ask
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so that we can all be aligned
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in how we wanna answer them.
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What's the question?
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Why there are no
women cofounders?
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There is a woman cofounder.
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Speaking of...
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There's a woman cofounder.
End of discussion.
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But, like, Jennifer's not
on this call, you know?
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Part of this,
they said be bluntly honest.
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Hi, have you met us?
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Do you know what world
we come from?
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You know, this was
a white boys' club
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for a very long time.
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- I know. I don't think--
- I'm not gonna bullshit.
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You know, it's--
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Skinny.
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Skinny pictures.
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I'll put the skinny filter on.
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Has she turned against us?
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No, but I can tell you
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these are things
she's gonna ask.
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Look straight ahead
to you.
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We're not
the diversity council.
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We're just, like,
a bunch of men and women
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trying to do something.
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We'll take anybody.
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Yeah.
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There's no vetting here.
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Clearly.
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pensive music
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I stand before you today
to fulfill one of my highest
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and most important duties
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under the United States Constitution,
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the nomination
of a Supreme Court justice.
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This is my third
such nomination.
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This should be
a straightforward and prompt
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confirmation,
should be very easy.
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Good luck.
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It's gonna be very quick.
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I'm sure it'll be
extremely noncontroversial.
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Today it is my honor
to nominate
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Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
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President Trump's
nomination today
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of Amy Coney Barrett--
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a brilliant scholar, jurist,
constitutional textualist,
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mother of seven with
an unblemished reputation--
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will cement the conservative
leaning of the Supreme Court
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for decades to come.
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This alone will put the left
over the edge.
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Let me ask you a question.
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I mean, you know,
for the last 25 years,
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we've said, you know,
R v. Wade
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could be on the ballot
with the Supreme Court,
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but it really hasn't been.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Right.
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Now it is.
What is the impact to that?
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You can legitimately
say that now.
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So I had probably
10 to 12 of my girlfriends
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reach out last night--
all of whom are
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late 30s, early 40s,
fiscally conservative--
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and they're like, "Oh, my God."
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And it's not--it's not like
Roe versus Wade is top of mind,
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but they're smart, and they
understand that this could be
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a six-three court,
and that to them is,
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like, unfathomable.
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I think I broadly
accept the argument that...
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every voter for whom
conservative judges
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was the issue
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- is already with Trump.
- Mm-hmm.
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I do think there is danger
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that this whole thing
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makes the race about something
other than COVID, right?
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And I wanna come back to,
like, what we've succeeded at
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in this organization:
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framing messages
and narratives
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and being at the tip
of the spear,
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and people have followed in
behind it.
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That's what our maximum impact
has been, I think,
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on a lot
of the narrative stuff, right?
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Like, COVID is about...
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- The incompetence.
- ...a lie,
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the incompetence,
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but also,
he's never gonna change.
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And remember,
COVID is the only thing
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along with the George Floyd,
you know, death-murder fiasco
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in the last
three and a half years
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where Trump's floor broke with
the Republican-based voter.
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That's where we started to see
really significant movement.
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That's true. We know that he's
still scared shitless of it,
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because every time it comes up,
he lies about it again.
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Yeah.
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We prosecute COVID,
and 200,000
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and more growing
dead Americans
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because this guy
lied to the country 119 times.
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Right, we're taking it home.
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I think our path--
I mean, isn't it pretty clear
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we focus on COVID?
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I agree.
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These are the hardest-core
of the Trump haters,
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but nobody should dismiss.
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These are smart,
tough guys, right?
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The key to The Lincoln Project
is, they say,
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"We don't wanna defeat Trump.
We wanna defeat Trumpism."
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These are old-school RINOs
that are globalists, okay?
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And they've now applied this.
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And I think, in a very
sophisticated, smart way,
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they're just trying
to peel off about 4%.
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Hmm.
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The old-school RINOs.
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Guys are sophisticated,
strategy, right?
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I thought it was a good clip
of Bannon.
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- Come on.
- Yeah.
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Got Lincoln Project
on his head.
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So the Bannon line
is a strategic focus
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of The Lincoln Project.
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If we get 4% of Republicans
to vote for Joe Biden,
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then the likelihood
of Donald Trump losing
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is really quite significant.
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Truth of the matter is,
COVID is the one issue
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that has proven to break
Republican support levels
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against Donald Trump.
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It's literally taken a pandemic
of historic proportions
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to snap Republicans out of it.
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It's not the authoritarianism.
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It's not the disrespect
that we've engendered
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around the world.
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It's their family dying
because of his incompetence.
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That's what it took.
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So the strategy,
seeing the COVID spike
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and start to literally
place ads.
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As we know, the virus
is going to start growing
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in these markets,
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because as long as COVID
is the discussion,
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it's prime opportunity
for us to go in
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and start messaging into
this unfortunate situation,
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which, you don't ever
wanna do this,
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but it would be political
malpractice if we didn't.
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tense music
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All right, 30 minutes.
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Let's write a script.
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The Trump plan:
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after months of lies
and empty promises,
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he told the terrifying truth.
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The Trump plan:
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after months of lies
and empty promises,
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he told the terrifying truth.
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He wants to infect seven out
of ten Americans with COVID.
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"He wants to infect"--
I can't say that.
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That's not quite there.
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Donald Trump
was just a terrible person.
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- The worst president--
- Today.
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He is the worst president
in American history.
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He's divided the country.
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He incited hate
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and lied to all of us
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about everything
tens of thousands of times.
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Say goodbye to your parents,
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your neighbors, your friends,
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'cause the Trump plan
will kill millions.
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I would love to say,
"Because of the fool
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that sits behind
the Oval Office.
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- Vote him out."
- We can say that.
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Done.
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All right.
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Some people think
I'm pretty good at this shit.
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I'm the anthropologist
of Donald Trump's shitty world.
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The Trump plan:
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after months of lies
and empty promises,
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he's told us
the terrifying truth.
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His herd-immunity plan
is to infect
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seven out of ten Americans
with COVID.
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The Trump plan will kill
at least three million people.
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Say goodbye to your parents,
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your neighbors,
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your friends,
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because the Trump plan
will kill millions
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in the next four years,
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maybe even you.
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suspenseful music
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So, Reed,
when did The Lincoln Project
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really kind of take off?
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Look, if COVID
hadn't come on,
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I'm not sure you and I are
having this conversation,
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because he gave us our opening
to really understand
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how to climb inside his head
and stay there
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and, you know, make the summer,
from our perspective,
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about giving Trump
what he could take,
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you know, day in and day out.
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What happened in Hazleton
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is happening around
the country: neighborhoods...
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We buy Fox News in
Washington, D.C., every week--
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Tucker Carlson,
Fox & Friends,
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Sean Hannity--
because we know
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he sits in the residence
every night
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and watches Fox News.
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He's like an old man, right?
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He's a cranky old man.
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And we knew that if we buy
these spots,
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eventually he was gonna see them.
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Live from the Lincoln Memorial
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in Washington, D.C.,
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we are joined now
by President Donald Trump.
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Last May,
we heard that he was gonna
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go to the Lincoln Memorial
on a Sunday night
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and do a Fox News town hall.
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- That's amazing.
- Thanks for doing this.
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And so after that,
we put up an ad.
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It was not only about COVID
but also about Trump.
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There's mourning in America.
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Today more than 175,000 Americans
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have died from a deadly virus
Donald Trump ignored,
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praising China's response
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instead of heeding
the warnings,
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then blaming them
to cover his own failures.
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And that night
I'm sitting in bed
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in front of my laptop,
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and I'm like, " What?
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He's attacking us."
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dramatic music
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And then on the tarmac
the next day
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in front of Air Force One,
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somebody in the White House
press pool asks him about us.
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Do you wanna make any comment
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about this Lincoln Project ad?
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Yeah, no, I saw it.
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They should call it
The Losers Project.
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Okay, thanks.
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That was the beginning
of history for us.
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The president
not happy with a new ad
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from a group of conservatives
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who haven't been shy
in going after him.
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The Lincoln Project
released this ad.
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They call it
Mourning in America.
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An organization known
as The Lincoln Project
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put out, like, the harshest ad.
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The Lincoln Project
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is like watching
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a Jay-Z/Nas rap battle.
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I don't give money
to political organizations.
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I've given money
to Lincoln Project
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because of ads like this.
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You know, we had raised,
I think, about $2 million
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up until the moment
he attacked us.
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And we raised $2 million
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in the immediate 24 hours afterward.
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It's not fair
to Abraham Lincoln,
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a great president.
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Does he just not comprehend
that he got
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so much more attention
to your commercial
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by his public reactions today?
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You know,
we expected this ad to hit.
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We did not expect him
to behave
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in the completely maniacal way
he behaved all day today,
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but here we are.
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None of this
is that complicated.
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Like, we never poll tested
Mourning in America,
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and it got his attention.
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It's all psychology
at some point, right?
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Hey, Mary. It's Ron.
How are you?
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Hi, Ron. I'm okay.
How are you doing?
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I'm okay.
I'm hanging in there.
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My team is working
on a billboard design
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for--it's sort of
a huge wraparound billboard
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with a couple of
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sort of extra units
at 49th and Broadway.
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- Yup.
- You know, this falls
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into the psyops category
of our different lanes,
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and I would love to brainstorm
some ideas with you
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and see what you think
would be most effective.
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What do you think about the--
like, a task--
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the COVID task force piece?
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I guess it depends
on what--you know...
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When the pandemic first hit,
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my sister was finishing up
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her last year of med school
in New York.
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This is when the PPE shortages
were hitting.
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That was the first moment
it became real for me,
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because my sister,
who was seven months pregnant,
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was going to work.
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New York among the 22 states
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reporting an uptick in...
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The hospitals didn't have
enough protective gear
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for the students,
the doctors, the nurses
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who were putting their lives
on the line
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to care for people
who were sick,
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and that was because
of Donald Trump
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and Jared Kushner.
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You know, and...
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Yes.
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Oh, now I think
we're onto something.
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Yeah.
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While we were still thinking
about what creative direction
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to go for these billboards,
I decided,
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basically we should just try
to fuck with them
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and get in their head, right?
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To do something similar
to Mourning in America
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in order to turn out donations
from all around the country.
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It was like crowdfunding
for all
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the other political campaigns
that we were playing in.
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- Hopefully.
- Yeah.
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So we've got the space
at 49th and Broadway.
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It's, like,
a wraparound billboard.
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It's a block from Fox.
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Exactly, so we're brainstorming
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how to troll Jared and Ivanka.
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- Here's what it is.
- Yeah.
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I don't care what it says.
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You guys come up
with the worst ideas.
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- The social climber aspect--
- Right.
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You'll never eat lunch
in this town again.
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I don't know, I think
Rick's dead-on about this.
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What do you think about
the COVID task force piece?
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Maybe that's one angle.
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Great idea.
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On March 21st, there was
a meeting in the White House
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concerning the COVID plans
across the country.
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And Jared decided to ax the
blue states from COVID testing.
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The notion
of the federal stockpile was,
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it's supposed to be
our stockpile.
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It's not supposed to be
state stockpiles
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that they then use.
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So we're encouraging the states
to make sure
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that they're
assessing the needs.
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They're getting the data
from their...
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He essentially said, "Well,
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they didn't get on the phone
and ask us properly.
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They weren't nice to us."
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In shorthand,
"Fuck the blue states."
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Why don't we tell 'em,
"You're not welcome here"?
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I know that
that makes you feel good,
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but it's not achieving
the objective.
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I just think it's just a play
to get press, isn't it?
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Mm-hmm.
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It will achieve press,
but, like, we want
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- their friends to call them.
- Mm-hmm.
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Why doesn't somebody
just come up with some ideas
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and put them
on a piece of paper?
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00:16:01,669 --> 00:16:03,299
Yeah, okay.
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If only Ivanka had married
a nice Jewish doctor,
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tens of thousands of Americans
would still be alive.
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- Ooh!
- Whoa.
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Whoa.
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00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:14,715
Well, that'll certainly
get attention.
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That will certainly
get attention.
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00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:19,269
Lisa says, "No, you can't."
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Yeah, something clearly
not okay with it.
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At this stage
in the game,
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going after his family,
going after Ivanka and Jared,
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00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:36,253
that's just not my wheelhouse.
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00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:39,416
I personally want to be focused
on persuading people.
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But it's
in New York City, right?
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We're not trying
to persuade New Yorkers.
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But there's so many people
in this organization
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with so many combined decades'
worth of political work
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that sometimes
you do have to sort of be like,
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"Okay, you've done this before,
so I trust you."
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Getting Trump's attention
gets us more attention,
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which gets us more firepower,
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which means
we can reach more voters.
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It's a very clear life cycle,
and it works very well.
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And The Lincoln Project
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is very quickly becoming
a bigger thing.
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This is the
stretching pains of expanding
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and doing more and doing more
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and trying to figure out
a way...
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We now have
50 full-time staffers,
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35 interns,
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and eight founders
and growing.
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00:17:21,665 --> 00:17:23,705
We're still adding staff
and interns.
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So my prediction is, we'll be
at 100 before the election.
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John Weaver,
I talk to him daily.
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I keep saying,
"Stop with the interns."
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Today we went from 39 to 45.
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And we're gonna bring more.
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I'm like, "We don't need
any more interns."
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We do, though.
We do. We do.
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We do.
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This is, like,
a really important thing...
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The thing
just keeps growing...
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Actually turn those ideas
into action.
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[Sarah
...faster and faster,
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00:17:50,486 --> 00:17:53,946
and now we'll be setting up
a studio for LPTV.
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But also, I think that's cool
for the day show,
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00:17:58,285 --> 00:17:59,995
but then it's reflective,
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00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:01,247
so we'd have
to put something on it.
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00:18:01,288 --> 00:18:02,618
Hold on.
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00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:03,834
I mean, there's
the windows up there...
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00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:06,754
I'm a producer on LPTV.
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00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:08,094
...think that's a big deal,
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00:18:08,128 --> 00:18:10,258
but we could dress
this whole area here.
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00:18:10,297 --> 00:18:12,047
We'll just measure out.
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We'd realize, like,
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00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:14,762
"Okay, we can actually
put a studio together,
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00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:16,392
and then we can
get through the last,
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00:18:16,428 --> 00:18:18,968
like, six weeks
of the election in person."
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Yeah.
It's, like, perfect.
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00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:21,806
That's gonna make an impact.
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00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:22,980
That's gonna be great content.
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00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:24,438
Like, we want to do that.
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00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:27,398
So... six days.
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00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:29,109
Actually, it's more
like five days.
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00:18:29,149 --> 00:18:31,859
We've fabricated,
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00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:34,402
upholstered, lit,
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00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,566
gotten all the cameras in,
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00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:38,985
gotten a dog in,
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and made a real set.
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00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:45,455
How we doing?
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We started to recognize
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that we had to be out there
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00:18:49,294 --> 00:18:52,014
with competing content
in the cultural space
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00:18:52,047 --> 00:18:54,087
beyond just what
a super PAC can do.
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You sit right there.
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00:18:56,552 --> 00:18:57,722
There are millions
and millions
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00:18:57,761 --> 00:18:59,811
and millions of Americans
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00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:02,347
who live in a hermetically
sealed bubble,
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00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:05,271
and that bubble is fed
by the twin sewage pipes
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00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,440
of Fox and Facebook.
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00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:08,649
Can you believe this?
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00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:09,819
No.
438
00:19:09,857 --> 00:19:11,277
I'm having trouble
believing it.
439
00:19:11,316 --> 00:19:13,066
Here is what we are
going to do right now.
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We are gonna start
from the top of the show,
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00:19:14,778 --> 00:19:17,068
where, Tara, we will come
to you in a single.
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00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,664
You will introduce the show
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00:19:18,699 --> 00:19:20,909
and a single to a two-shot
bringing Rick in.
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00:19:20,951 --> 00:19:22,451
Everything is good to go.
445
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:23,754
Got it.
446
00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:26,917
Five, four, three, two, one.
447
00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:29,787
Good evening,
and welcome to The Breakdown.
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00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:31,495
I am Tara Setmayer,
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00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:34,255
and we are broadcasting live
from--
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for the first time
from our fancy new studio
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in an undisclosed location.
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00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,644
There he is, the Rick Wilson.
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00:19:42,681 --> 00:19:44,101
Hey, Tara, how are you?
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00:19:44,141 --> 00:19:45,351
Fancy new digs there.
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00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:48,557
You look at these
pictures from the rallies,
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00:19:48,604 --> 00:19:51,114
and these people
are largely maskless.
457
00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:53,228
We are gonna be able to model
the COVID outbreaks
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00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:54,895
following this guy around.
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00:19:54,943 --> 00:19:58,243
And now the White House
is moving forward
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00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,080
with this medically dangerous
herd immunity.
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00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:04,157
Like measles and other things,
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00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,203
you're supposed to become
immune to this
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00:20:05,245 --> 00:20:06,955
once you get it.
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00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:08,957
This doesn't work, number one,
without a vaccine,
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00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,539
which we don't have yet.
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00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:13,384
If you wanna pursue
the herd immunity equation,
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00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:16,630
on the lower boundary of it,
you lose 2.5 million people.
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00:20:16,673 --> 00:20:18,803
If the idea is that
you're going to end up
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00:20:18,842 --> 00:20:20,222
giving people herd immunity
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by killing 2 1/2 million
to 5 1/2 million Americans,
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you're not a president.
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00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:26,637
You're a psychopath.
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00:20:30,854 --> 00:20:33,734
pensive music
474
00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:53,753
She's generously shared
the right AirPod with me.
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00:20:55,295 --> 00:20:57,875
Keep the middle open
for open communication.
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00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:00,223
100%.
477
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,589
Teamwork to make the dream work.
478
00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:06,679
So this is a series
that we're looking at doing,
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00:21:06,723 --> 00:21:10,063
a billboard program
in multiple states.
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00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:15,940
It's interesting that in 2020,
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00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:18,943
we're putting up billboards
as a way to campaign.
482
00:21:18,986 --> 00:21:20,446
Yeah, that looks really good.
483
00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:25,776
This is roughly--this is,
like, a very early draft,
484
00:21:25,826 --> 00:21:27,446
but this is roughly
where we're going.
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00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:32,460
I like where this
is going, Ron, a lot.
486
00:21:32,499 --> 00:21:35,879
Very good, Ron.
It's really, really great.
487
00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:38,634
It needs to be more
of that, like,
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00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:40,052
deathly power he has.
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00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:41,680
This is almost, like,
too human.
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00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:47,471
Yeah, I agree, Stuart.
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00:21:47,514 --> 00:21:48,474
Okay.
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00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,024
Yes.
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00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:55,522
So you want her like I had
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00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:57,484
in the original mock-up,
right?
495
00:21:57,524 --> 00:21:59,484
- Like, where she's, like--
- No.
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00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:04,356
For that top piece,
just put the death toll.
497
00:22:04,406 --> 00:22:08,326
Yeah, I think this
is--I think this is the one.
498
00:22:08,368 --> 00:22:10,788
Yup. That's it.
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00:22:17,878 --> 00:22:20,418
So for everybody's benefit,
we found a better location,
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which is actually
a block north,
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00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:23,925
right in the bow tie
of Times Square
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00:22:23,967 --> 00:22:26,847
on the building that
Good Morning America tapes in.
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00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:30,517
And we are moving money
and creative today.
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00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:32,477
I think we have to be careful,
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00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:34,017
especially in the last weeks.
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00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:36,521
Like, this is everything
that we're talking about.
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00:22:36,563 --> 00:22:39,363
My biggest concern is that
I feel like our priority--
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00:22:39,399 --> 00:22:41,319
all of the stuff that we're
talking about is good.
509
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,030
I get it. I know
where you're coming from.
510
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:46,820
But our job is to persuade
people to vote for Biden.
511
00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,615
Insulting people
doesn't do that.
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00:22:48,658 --> 00:22:51,158
We're here to persuade people
to vote for Joe Biden.
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00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,003
I just wanna make sure
that we don't forget
514
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,408
that that's our priority.
515
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,709
Sorry to bring the crowd down.
516
00:22:57,751 --> 00:22:59,091
- It sounds like a great ad.
- No, no, no.
517
00:22:59,127 --> 00:23:00,377
That was the first thing--
518
00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:01,630
Sounds like a fun ad, but--
519
00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:03,221
When I saw it,
that was what my concern was.
520
00:23:03,256 --> 00:23:05,126
Yeah, yeah,
I do worry about that.
521
00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:07,005
We always walk
close to that line,
522
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,012
and we're always disciplined
about stepping back from it.
523
00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:10,854
I just wanna make sure that we
524
00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:12,269
- continue to be--
- We should show restraint.
525
00:23:12,307 --> 00:23:13,347
Yes.
526
00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:15,232
Sometimes less is more.
527
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,780
Some of our ads, I know,
528
00:23:21,817 --> 00:23:22,857
can be tough to watch
529
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:24,151
every now and then.
530
00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:25,744
Where are we in releasing?
531
00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:27,409
What have we released so far?
532
00:23:27,447 --> 00:23:29,737
Arizona, morning
in Arizona this weekend.
533
00:23:29,783 --> 00:23:31,243
We'll drop Florida tomorrow.
534
00:23:31,284 --> 00:23:33,544
We'll do D.C. Thursday.
535
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:35,828
This is Reed's and Steve's
536
00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:39,172
and John's
and Brooke's project.
537
00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:41,749
I think we should
go play all of our Senate ads
538
00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:44,415
on the base of the senatorial
committee building...
539
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:49,090
...in the last week, right?
540
00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:52,216
Like, I think, like,
we should fucking do that.
541
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,854
I love it.
I love it.
542
00:23:54,891 --> 00:23:56,271
They're a very enthusiastic
543
00:23:56,309 --> 00:23:59,729
and creative group of guys.
544
00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:02,021
I'm a somewhat conservative
545
00:24:02,065 --> 00:24:03,815
New England grandmother,
you know?
546
00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:04,939
- Thank you.
- Thanks, Jennifer.
547
00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:06,235
Good to see you.
548
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,648
They reached out to me
549
00:24:07,696 --> 00:24:09,156
and invited me in,
550
00:24:09,197 --> 00:24:10,867
and I'm very happy
to be part of it.
551
00:24:10,907 --> 00:24:12,447
I will see you all again
552
00:24:12,492 --> 00:24:13,872
before the day's over,
I'm sure.
553
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:15,370
All right.
Are we good?
554
00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:18,922
He owes me.
555
00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:21,587
Jennifer, what a long,
strange trip it has been.
556
00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:23,086
- We go way back.
- Jennifer...
557
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,628
Where the hell are we now?
558
00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:26,211
...we go way back.
559
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:29,466
I mean, Jennifer was
a Republican's Republican
560
00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:32,759
before her conversion,
561
00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:34,814
the bright light
that came from Donald Trump.
562
00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:36,058
Yeah, before Trump.
563
00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:37,979
Yeah.
564
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:39,898
I was chairman of
New Hampshire Republican Party
565
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,306
when Donald Trump
was nominated.
566
00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:43,975
- Thank you, darling.
- Good luck.
567
00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,494
And I remember
my friends would say to me,
568
00:24:46,526 --> 00:24:48,236
"You guys in New Hampshire,
you're gonna stop it.
569
00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:50,408
He's not gonna win
New Hampshire really, is he?"
570
00:24:50,447 --> 00:24:51,817
- You feel good about it?
- Yeah.
571
00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:54,949
Oh, wow.
572
00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:56,543
Wow, wow, wow.
573
00:24:57,996 --> 00:24:59,156
So beautiful.
574
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:00,326
It was awful.
575
00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:02,083
So beautiful.
576
00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:05,712
And I have spent
every minute since then
577
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,554
feeling some level
of personal responsibility
578
00:25:08,590 --> 00:25:11,300
of making sure that we don't
let this happen again.
579
00:25:13,553 --> 00:25:14,723
Okay.
580
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:15,893
Is this where I belong?
581
00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:16,851
- All right.
- Yeah.
582
00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:18,390
Jennifer!
583
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:20,393
- Hey, how are you?
- I'm good.
584
00:25:20,435 --> 00:25:22,555
- Here she is.
- So how's it going?
585
00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:24,024
This is me
hugging you, 'cause I can't,
586
00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:24,984
-'cause COVID.
- I know. I know.
587
00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:26,403
I know.
588
00:25:26,441 --> 00:25:29,031
Jennifer Horn is a Republican.
589
00:25:29,069 --> 00:25:31,739
She's also, like, the
quintessential American mom.
590
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:36,490
She's able to reach
all these women
591
00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,155
who wanna hear
from someone like her.
592
00:25:38,578 --> 00:25:40,368
Jennifer, are you ready?
593
00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:41,673
I'm ready.
594
00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:45,286
- Let's do it.
- Three, two, one.
595
00:25:45,335 --> 00:25:46,835
So much going on right now.
596
00:25:46,878 --> 00:25:48,378
It sounds like we've got
a lot of people waiting.
597
00:25:48,421 --> 00:25:50,381
Our next caller is Janet.
598
00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:52,053
I'm one of those
white suburban women
599
00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:53,892
that is not voting for Trump.
600
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:56,847
He's ripping our country apart
in such a manner
601
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,468
that hasn't happened
since the Civil War.
602
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,806
So how do we talk to each
other in a way that is not
603
00:26:02,852 --> 00:26:06,232
gonna be defensive
or volatile?
604
00:26:06,856 --> 00:26:09,276
I have had
many conversations with people
605
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:10,987
who have called in
to our show,
606
00:26:11,027 --> 00:26:13,447
written in, tweeted,
who have said,
607
00:26:13,488 --> 00:26:15,118
"I was undecided,"
608
00:26:15,156 --> 00:26:17,026
or, "I was going to vote
for Trump,
609
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,995
and a conversation that
Jennifer had about empathy
610
00:26:20,036 --> 00:26:21,496
spoke to my heart and told me
611
00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,578
that I am now going to vote
for Biden."
612
00:26:23,623 --> 00:26:26,083
Like, that's the fucking goal.
613
00:26:29,963 --> 00:26:32,723
With the vendor and--
614
00:26:35,552 --> 00:26:36,762
Hi.
615
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,756
Hi.
616
00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,390
- It's a bit stressful.
- What happened?
617
00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:44,393
So the fun thing
about billboards is,
618
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:47,106
they're different than TV.
619
00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:51,027
That means there are
strict guidelines
620
00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:52,937
that different companies have.
621
00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:56,236
And in this case, saying,
"Trump lied.
622
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:59,451
200,000 people died,"
is apparently an opinion
623
00:26:59,492 --> 00:27:00,792
and not a fact.
624
00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:02,827
So we can't use that.
625
00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:05,211
We just have to adapt to that,
626
00:27:05,248 --> 00:27:08,038
because now billboard spaces
are filling up quickly.
627
00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:10,424
Okay, I'll be over there now.
628
00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,132
Can't use that.
629
00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,013
Can't use that.
630
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:18,140
Can't use this
or the photo behind it.
631
00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:19,388
This is for what, Arizona,
632
00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:21,469
where we have a problem?
633
00:27:21,514 --> 00:27:25,234
Florida, Arizona,
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
634
00:27:25,268 --> 00:27:26,348
Great.
635
00:27:26,394 --> 00:27:28,194
- Nothing important.
- Mm-mm.
636
00:27:28,229 --> 00:27:30,479
They don't have any value
in the Electoral College.
637
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:33,277
I have a feeling
638
00:27:33,318 --> 00:27:35,238
that whatever we do
with these quotes
639
00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:37,358
is gonna get shot down
at this point.
640
00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:39,865
I would bet that,
641
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:44,248
but we need to play their game
for now, unfortunately.
642
00:27:44,287 --> 00:27:48,167
So we pretty much
need to do this today,
643
00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:50,998
because we're set back
another 48 to 72 hours,
644
00:27:51,044 --> 00:27:52,674
and ballots are gonna
start dropping in states
645
00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:54,842
if they haven't already.
646
00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:59,801
So we're between, like,
a boulder and a cliff
647
00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:03,264
and, like, a hard place
and, like, a shark.
648
00:28:04,724 --> 00:28:06,394
Like a pterodactyl
but the one from, like,
649
00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,274
Jurassic Park III.
650
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,986
I literally woke up to, like,
651
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:20,910
five people saying, like,
652
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,949
"New Yorker article looks--
it's great."
653
00:28:22,992 --> 00:28:25,162
I was like, "What?"
654
00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,043
- I was like, "It's out?"
- Yeah.
655
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:29,499
You were one of them.
656
00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:31,381
That was the first thing
I read this morning.
657
00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:33,338
Me too. Like this.
658
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:35,378
Yeah.
659
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:46,055
This is, like,
Steve Schmidt's,
660
00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:49,889
Rick Wilson's, Reed Galen's,
John Weaver's baby.
661
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:53,610
I mean, like, as, like,
662
00:28:53,648 --> 00:28:55,228
a young gay kid
in New York City,
663
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,105
to be in The New Yorker
664
00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:58,572
is just--
665
00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,445
Just, like, makes me
really emotional.
666
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:04,531
- I don't know.
- No.
667
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,946
Yeah, it's like,
it's just a--
668
00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:08,906
I don't know.
669
00:29:11,124 --> 00:29:12,334
That New Yorker reporter
670
00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:13,995
didn't even talk to us,
671
00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:16,253
anybody on our team,
as far as I know.
672
00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:21,428
It's all good. [chuckles]
673
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:25,761
Like, I read the article,
or I skimmed it a little bit.
674
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440
I learned who brought dogs.
675
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:32,807
I learned what kind
of breed they were.
676
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:34,774
That was cool.
677
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,280
But the work that Mike's done
and Zach's done
678
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:40,649
means more to me personally...
679
00:29:40,695 --> 00:29:41,815
Yeah.
680
00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:43,953
...than a fucking article.
681
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:48,290
Mike has literally put
his entire career at risk.
682
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:52,326
Mike is, like, the entire
targeting operation
683
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:55,083
of Lincoln Project and--yeah.
684
00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:56,586
I thought
we were just a Twitter account
685
00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:58,918
when I first learned
about The Lincoln Project.
686
00:29:58,963 --> 00:30:02,843
Like, I saw
some pretty spicy tweets.
687
00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,804
I'm gonna do this. Watch.
688
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:09,925
The power you wield is--
689
00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:11,894
Insane.
It's actually insane.
690
00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:14,265
- It's too much.
- It's insane.
691
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:16,652
You know, like, the shit
we're all doing is pretty hard.
692
00:30:16,689 --> 00:30:18,569
No, I think everyone
has a hand in it.
693
00:30:18,608 --> 00:30:21,778
- Yeah.
- And I think--I think it's--
694
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,280
- Like, I feel--
- It's like, it's not
695
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,241
anyone's place to, like,
take credit.
696
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:26,621
No, no, no,
I'm not saying, like--
697
00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:28,158
- Like, we all do--
- I didn't think it was bad.
698
00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:32,291
I just wish other people
had been highlighted.
699
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:34,750
That's all.
700
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:36,331
Is there something
about the article
701
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:37,496
that created tension?
702
00:30:39,045 --> 00:30:40,755
No, I think it was--it's good.
703
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:44,177
I don't think anyone
has tension about it,
704
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:46,217
that I'm aware of, at least.
705
00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:47,601
I don't know.
706
00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:59,070
It's gonna be a good day.
Gonna be a great day.
707
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:02,534
Sarah wants to know
if we're coming into the--
708
00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:03,819
she emailed the whole team
709
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,072
to see who's coming
to the office today.
710
00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:06,243
- Should I say we're--
- We're not going.
711
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:08,201
- Okay.
- Yo.
712
00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:10,615
Yeah, guys,
I wanna have a quick chat
713
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:13,160
with everybody.
714
00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:15,334
Did everybody read
the New Yorker piece today?
715
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:16,793
Started to.
716
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:23,207
It bites me
to no fucking end
717
00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,796
that The New Yorker
can write a fucking story
718
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:29,393
called "The War Room
of The Lincoln Project"
719
00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:33,059
without talking to the people
that run the fucking war room.
720
00:31:33,099 --> 00:31:36,639
There is a narrative
about The Lincoln Project
721
00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,146
being just
an internet sensation
722
00:31:39,188 --> 00:31:43,068
and a great tweet machine
and really cool ads
723
00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:46,989
when we all know that that is
not all of who we are,
724
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:49,950
that if this race is won,
it's gonna be
725
00:31:49,991 --> 00:31:54,081
because of the work that
the people in this room did...
726
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,620
obviously not exclusively but...
727
00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:59,745
substantially.
728
00:31:59,792 --> 00:32:01,092
I'll be honest, guys.
729
00:32:01,127 --> 00:32:02,627
Like, I don't really care.
730
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:03,710
No. Well, here's the thing.
731
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:04,755
This is important.
732
00:32:04,797 --> 00:32:06,217
And let me teach you a lesson,
733
00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:08,377
'cause you're really young
in this business.
734
00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:12,006
If you don't tell your story,
somebody else is gonna.
735
00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:13,845
Yeah. Okay.
736
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,220
Yeah.
737
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:16,476
We would be kidding ourselves
738
00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:19,057
if we said
that the angling hasn't begun.
739
00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:21,903
And I think the best thing
that we can do,
740
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,230
you know, let's be honest
about the angling.
741
00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:24,694
It's the thing that happens
on campaigns.
742
00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:25,944
It's like,
it's not a nice thing,
743
00:32:25,985 --> 00:32:27,445
but it's a thing that happens.
744
00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:30,027
The best kind of angling
is continuing to deliver.
745
00:32:30,073 --> 00:32:32,953
dramatic music
746
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:40,752
We're not making the ads.
747
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:43,212
We're not the ones
who were on cable news.
748
00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:46,213
That's what made
The Lincoln Project
749
00:32:46,255 --> 00:32:48,125
as influential as it is.
750
00:32:48,174 --> 00:32:50,594
But that alone
is not sufficient
751
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:52,925
to actually move
the voters to accomplish
752
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,011
the mission
that we are talking about.
753
00:32:56,849 --> 00:32:59,849
That requires data work
and targeting
754
00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:01,694
and understanding the voters
755
00:33:01,729 --> 00:33:04,109
at a very small,
granular level.
756
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:05,528
And it's what we do.
757
00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:08,992
We take pride in that.
758
00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,028
That needs to be respected.
759
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:14,374
And...
760
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,870
...you know, it's just--
761
00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:21,123
I don't think that my guys
are feeling that right now.
762
00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:22,825
I know I'm not.
763
00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:36,354
This is a Fox News alert.
764
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,599
I'm Ashley Strohmier,
live from New York.
765
00:33:38,641 --> 00:33:41,311
President Trump
just tweeted moments ago
766
00:33:41,352 --> 00:33:42,852
that he and the first lady
have tested positive
767
00:33:42,895 --> 00:33:44,605
for the coronavirus.
768
00:33:44,647 --> 00:33:46,767
The president and first lady
now isolating
769
00:33:46,816 --> 00:33:48,816
here at the White House
in the residence behind me,
770
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,030
with all public events canceled.
771
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:52,660
The president
formally introduced
772
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:54,817
his Supreme Court nominee,
Amy Coney Barrett,
773
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,036
just days earlier
during a September 26th
774
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,826
Rose Garden ceremony.
775
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,830
Several of the attending
audience members
776
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,542
since also tested positive
for the virus.
777
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:06,003
This is more
than an October surprise.
778
00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,304
It's like an October
asteroid hit.
779
00:34:16,012 --> 00:34:17,222
Hey, gang.
780
00:34:17,263 --> 00:34:18,773
- Hey.
- Hey.
781
00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:20,726
Well, we have to start
breaking our news cycles down
782
00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:23,347
into milliseconds, I guess.
783
00:34:23,394 --> 00:34:26,444
Trump's got COVID,
and that organization,
784
00:34:26,481 --> 00:34:29,531
I'm betting right now,
is in chaos.
785
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:33,107
Let me give you more
insight in the White House.
786
00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:36,164
Our little friend over there
is sending me stuff right now.
787
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,829
She's on the Zoom call,
and she said,
788
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:42,208
"No one knows who's in charge
right now of anything."
789
00:34:42,246 --> 00:34:45,246
She said,
"Major push
790
00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:49,921
to ensure that we call out
liberal media
791
00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:53,262
for snickering
at Trump and first lady.
792
00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:55,719
Highlight anything
that looks insensitive
793
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,260
to the first family
as they're going
794
00:34:57,303 --> 00:34:58,763
through this terrible crisis."
795
00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:00,055
Oh, my fucking God.
796
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,058
This is the best one
I've seen.
797
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,389
Trump beat Biden
798
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,063
while suffering from COVID
799
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:05,352
in debate.
800
00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:08,268
- Jesus Christ.
- You know what?
801
00:35:08,314 --> 00:35:10,734
Like, the beauty--
here's the thing
802
00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:12,895
is that the beauty
of living in a fictional world
803
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,824
means you can make up whatever
goddamn thing you want to.
804
00:35:15,863 --> 00:35:18,033
I don't wanna be cruel,
805
00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:20,834
but this is why
806
00:35:20,868 --> 00:35:23,578
the word "karma" was invented.
807
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,001
I hope he recovers.
808
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,670
But, like, does any--
do we have sympathy for him?
809
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:32,380
But my point is, like,
whatever the thing is,
810
00:35:32,421 --> 00:35:35,631
like, we shouldn't have
any mercy on these people.
811
00:35:37,218 --> 00:35:39,008
Well, here we go.
812
00:35:39,053 --> 00:35:41,313
Donald Trump is now in the
circle of people around him,
813
00:35:41,347 --> 00:35:44,427
because they were sloppy
and irresponsible and reckless
814
00:35:44,475 --> 00:35:45,975
and didn't wear masks
and didn't wear gloves
815
00:35:46,018 --> 00:35:47,558
and didn't wash their hands
and didn't socially distance
816
00:35:47,603 --> 00:35:48,733
and all the other
practical things
817
00:35:48,771 --> 00:35:50,651
that every other American
should be doing.
818
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,650
Now he has COVID.
819
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,782
You know, anybody that's
looking for sympathy from me,
820
00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:56,149
they can find that shit
in the dictionary
821
00:35:56,195 --> 00:35:57,485
between "shit" and "syphilis,"
822
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:59,450
'cause I am not playing
this fucking game.
823
00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:01,990
He brought this
on himself, okay?
824
00:36:02,034 --> 00:36:05,204
He bought this problem
for himself.
825
00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:06,746
The virus doesn't watch
Fox News.
826
00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:11,039
The virus isn't following
Trump's Twitter feed.
827
00:36:11,085 --> 00:36:13,665
The virus is an externality
that cannot--
828
00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:14,923
you know,
in Terminator style,
829
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:17,014
cannot be reasoned with.
830
00:36:17,049 --> 00:36:18,589
You can't bullshit the virus.
831
00:36:18,634 --> 00:36:20,304
You can't pretend
with the virus.
832
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:22,054
The virus doesn't watch
reality TV
833
00:36:22,096 --> 00:36:24,386
and think that you're
something you're not.
834
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,932
It just is what it is
and does what it does.
835
00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,896
So here we are.
He's got COVID.
836
00:36:28,936 --> 00:36:31,226
And it has disrupted
his campaign schedule...
837
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,862
...but not ours.
838
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:34,189
We're gonna continue--
sorry, guys.
839
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:36,073
It's okay.
840
00:36:39,822 --> 00:36:40,992
So that was true, then?
841
00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,662
Yup.
842
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,120
Somebody called us
at 2 p.m. and told us
843
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,700
that he was going
to Walter Reed.
844
00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:48,788
Wow.
845
00:36:48,831 --> 00:36:51,001
As a precaution or...
846
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:51,962
Wait.
847
00:36:53,252 --> 00:36:54,552
Wow.
848
00:36:57,256 --> 00:36:59,256
- Something's not right.
- Something's not right.
849
00:37:01,844 --> 00:37:02,684
There's just
so many unknowns.
850
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,930
Variables.
851
00:37:03,971 --> 00:37:05,311
There's so many variables,
852
00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:06,968
and there's so much
potential for--
853
00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:10,725
Fucker-y.
854
00:37:11,437 --> 00:37:13,807
I hate second-guessing,
like, myself and say...
855
00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:14,936
- I know.
- ..."Is he lying?"
856
00:37:14,982 --> 00:37:16,322
I know.
857
00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:17,819
"Is this, like,
a bigger play?"
858
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:19,610
Like, I had the same reaction.
859
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:20,994
- I think everybody is.
- Yeah.
860
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:22,620
I think the whole country is.
861
00:37:30,665 --> 00:37:32,285
Hello, hello, and welcome
862
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,923
to The Breakdown's
pre-debate show.
863
00:37:35,962 --> 00:37:37,922
What a great way
for the current vice president
864
00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:41,344
in the United States
to roll into his one and only
865
00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:43,344
vice presidential debate.
866
00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:45,466
Who knew that we would get
the biggest
867
00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:47,433
of all October surprises?
868
00:37:47,473 --> 00:37:50,433
It's not a good look for them.
869
00:37:50,476 --> 00:37:52,436
Vice President Pence,
you were in the front row
870
00:37:52,478 --> 00:37:54,228
in a Rose Garden event
11 days ago
871
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,572
in what seems to have been
a super-spreader event
872
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:59,237
for senior administration
and congressional officials.
873
00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:02,147
No social distancing,
few masks,
874
00:38:02,196 --> 00:38:04,116
and now a cluster
of coronavirus cases
875
00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:06,236
among those who were there.
876
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:09,624
How can you expect Americans
to follow the administration's
877
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:13,082
safety guidelines to protect
themselves from COVID
878
00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:15,964
when you at the White House
have not been doing so?
879
00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,747
Well, the American people
880
00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:20,716
have demonstrated
over the last eight months--
881
00:38:20,756 --> 00:38:23,336
We'll see what she does,
if she follows up and says,
882
00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:25,144
"That's not what I asked you."
883
00:38:25,177 --> 00:38:26,677
President Trump and I
have great confidence
884
00:38:26,721 --> 00:38:29,311
in the American people
and their ability
885
00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:33,888
to take that information
and put it into practice.
886
00:38:33,936 --> 00:38:36,606
The vice president
is the head of the task force.
887
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:38,397
Clearly it hasn't worked
888
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:40,441
when you're looking
at over 210,000
889
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:42,404
dead bodies in our country.
890
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:43,605
Thank you, Senator Harris.
891
00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:45,114
This is such
an important issue,
892
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,816
but we have other
important issues as well...
893
00:38:46,866 --> 00:38:48,826
She crushed that answer.
894
00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:52,288
Slanders against
President Donald Trump
895
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,830
regarding men and women
of our armed forces
896
00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:56,504
are absurd.
897
00:38:56,542 --> 00:38:59,132
President Donald Trump
reveres those
898
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:00,460
who serve
in our armed forces...
899
00:39:00,504 --> 00:39:01,844
Bullshit!
900
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:03,671
That's fucking insane.
901
00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:07,262
Well, let's go--
902
00:39:07,303 --> 00:39:08,513
No, but, Susan,
this is important.
903
00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:09,764
Susan, I have
to weigh in here.
904
00:39:09,805 --> 00:39:11,015
Mr. Vice President,
I'm speaking.
905
00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:12,217
- I have to weigh in.
- I'm speaking.
906
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:14,266
- Oh!
- Here we go.
907
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:17,150
- Yeah.
- Eat shit, motherfucker. Whoo!
908
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:19,268
To the men and women
who serve in law enforcement,
909
00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:21,065
I want everyone to know,
who puts on the uniform...
910
00:39:21,108 --> 00:39:22,358
He's got a fly on his head.
911
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:25,782
Look up at the fly on his head.
912
00:39:25,821 --> 00:39:27,111
There's a fly on his head.
913
00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:31,155
- Tweet that shit.
- Yeah.
914
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:41,419
Well, that's rapid response.
915
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:43,262
- Da-da-da
- Vote.
916
00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:45,127
Please vote. Vote early.
917
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:46,184
Come up with a plan to vote.
918
00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:47,637
Go to iwillvote.com.
919
00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:48,836
Thank you, Senator Harris.
920
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:50,546
Thank you,
Vice President Pence.
921
00:39:50,596 --> 00:39:53,056
Thank you so much
for being with us tonight.
922
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:08,950
Four more years!
923
00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:16,754
God bless our president!
924
00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:18,169
I will die for him.
925
00:40:18,207 --> 00:40:19,917
I will die
for that man happily.
926
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:22,549
Anybody wanna mess with him,
you mess with me first.
927
00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,546
He is the hero, that man.
928
00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:30,505
On Wednesday,
929
00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:32,103
Trump went on Twitter
930
00:40:32,138 --> 00:40:36,598
to say that catching
the coronavirus was...
931
00:40:36,642 --> 00:40:38,102
a blessing from God.
932
00:40:38,144 --> 00:40:41,404
Let's take a listen.
933
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:43,229
Hi, perhaps you recognize me.
934
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,864
It's your favorite president.
935
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,900
I got back a day ago
936
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,275
from Walter Reed
Medical Center.
937
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:51,121
I spent four days there.
938
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,157
I want everybody to be given
the same treatment
939
00:40:54,201 --> 00:40:56,451
as your president,
940
00:40:56,495 --> 00:40:58,245
because I feel great.
941
00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:02,134
I think this was a blessing
from God that I caught it.
942
00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:04,418
This was a blessing
in disguise.
943
00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,762
- And--
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
944
00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:08,757
I'm speechless.
945
00:41:08,799 --> 00:41:11,429
Look, I guess it's kind of
a weird play to evangelicals,
946
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:12,719
I guess.
947
00:41:12,761 --> 00:41:14,011
I mean, what's he saying?
948
00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:15,224
What does that even mean?
949
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,564
That kind of language,
I don't--
950
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,480
while it is jarring
to hear, I think,
951
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,439
I don't think it is
that jarring to his base.
952
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:24,651
Yeah.
953
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:25,730
I don't think
it's jarring.
954
00:41:25,774 --> 00:41:28,154
We know that he sees
955
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:31,954
a powerful political base
that he can manipulate
956
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:34,989
when he uses
religious rhetoric.
957
00:41:35,034 --> 00:41:36,494
I would know.
958
00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:39,155
- Tell them why.
- My parents are pastors.
959
00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:42,995
I grew up
in an evangelical household.
960
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:46,840
I was homeschooled
until I was in fourth grade.
961
00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:49,589
Then I went
to Christian school.
962
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:52,012
I pledge allegiance to...
963
00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:55,301
In the Christian school,
we started every day
964
00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:56,886
pledging allegiance
to the flag
965
00:41:56,931 --> 00:41:58,681
of the United States,
966
00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:01,234
then pledging allegiance
to the Christian flag...
967
00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:03,808
One savior, crucified...
968
00:42:03,854 --> 00:42:05,524
...then pledging
allegiance to the Bible.
969
00:42:05,564 --> 00:42:07,694
God's holy word.
970
00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:10,863
Three, right in a row.
971
00:42:10,903 --> 00:42:13,363
Those things then become
interwoven in your mind.
972
00:42:13,405 --> 00:42:15,445
Being a Christian
means being an American.
973
00:42:15,491 --> 00:42:17,161
Being an American
means being a Christian.
974
00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:20,541
And if you aren't one,
then you aren't the other.
975
00:42:21,288 --> 00:42:26,208
Piss off God, then something
bad might happen to America.
976
00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:29,552
Those who wanna change
the culture know
977
00:42:29,588 --> 00:42:31,338
that it's fairly simple to do.
978
00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:35,052
You simply get control
of what you teach children.
979
00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:38,064
Focus on the Family
was a big influence,
980
00:42:38,097 --> 00:42:40,637
and Dr. James Dobson
was the go-to teacher
981
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:42,693
for how to raise kids,
982
00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:46,186
and my parents
really looked up to him.
983
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:49,400
Can you imagine
20, 25 five-year-olds
984
00:42:49,441 --> 00:42:51,531
with their little hands
folded in their laps
985
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:54,569
while their teacher
talks to them
986
00:42:54,613 --> 00:42:58,333
about adult perverse sexuality?
987
00:42:58,367 --> 00:43:01,077
Have we gone completely mad?
988
00:43:02,121 --> 00:43:04,961
That culture was...
989
00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:08,836
...acidic
990
00:43:08,877 --> 00:43:10,917
to a young boy
who was figuring out
991
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:12,553
that he was gay
992
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,590
and didn't even know
what that really meant.
993
00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:20,431
But as I got older,
I could sort of
994
00:43:20,472 --> 00:43:22,732
compartmentalize who I was
995
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:27,476
with the work of electing
Republican candidates.
996
00:43:30,899 --> 00:43:32,899
And at that point,
I still
997
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:35,613
generally believed
and preferred
998
00:43:35,654 --> 00:43:39,204
most of the classically
conservative ideas
999
00:43:39,241 --> 00:43:42,951
about free markets and,
you know, smaller government.
1000
00:43:42,995 --> 00:43:45,615
As a professional consultant,
1001
00:43:45,664 --> 00:43:50,464
you can rationalize working
with and for candidates
1002
00:43:50,502 --> 00:43:54,552
and on projects that you
agree with in most part,
1003
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:57,470
even though you find some
of those things objectionable.
1004
00:43:58,010 --> 00:44:02,810
But then Donald Trump
was a complete surprise.
1005
00:44:02,848 --> 00:44:04,728
When he became the nominee,
1006
00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:08,267
I realized
that the Republican Party
1007
00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:10,692
was not what I thought
it was...
1008
00:44:12,941 --> 00:44:17,201
...that winning was actually
all that mattered.
1009
00:44:17,237 --> 00:44:19,487
And fuck that.
I'm not doing it.
1010
00:44:19,531 --> 00:44:22,241
Thank you, Mike and Sarah,
for being on the show today.
1011
00:44:22,284 --> 00:44:24,584
And thanks to all of you
at home for listening.
1012
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:28,210
I decided I was gonna see
if there was
1013
00:44:28,248 --> 00:44:31,838
meaningful work outside
of this two-party structure
1014
00:44:31,877 --> 00:44:35,587
that I could do
and feel...
1015
00:44:35,631 --> 00:44:37,051
happy about.
1016
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,221
Same with you, Mike.
1017
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,178
- Okay.
- You can just--
1018
00:44:39,218 --> 00:44:40,638
And it turns out
1019
00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:42,348
that there are good people
1020
00:44:42,388 --> 00:44:44,008
doing meaningful work
in that space,
1021
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:45,516
and I found some of them.
1022
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:55,191
light music
1023
00:45:00,864 --> 00:45:02,574
Oh, man.
1024
00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,871
They are gonna freak out.
1025
00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:10,714
- Hello.
- Hey.
1026
00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:12,039
So it is up.
1027
00:45:12,084 --> 00:45:13,674
I'm gonna turn this around,
okay?
1028
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:16,211
Okay.
1029
00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:18,665
There it is.
1030
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:20,466
Oh, my God.
1031
00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:27,675
Wow.
1032
00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:29,095
Good morning, America.
1033
00:45:29,143 --> 00:45:30,563
Good morning, Jared.
1034
00:45:30,602 --> 00:45:32,192
Good morning, Ivanka.
1035
00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:33,399
I don't know
how much this cost,
1036
00:45:33,439 --> 00:45:35,149
but it was worth every penny.
1037
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:36,570
- Yeah.
- You know?
1038
00:45:36,608 --> 00:45:38,398
Yeah, it was--
1039
00:45:38,444 --> 00:45:40,404
we got a very good deal.
1040
00:45:40,446 --> 00:45:42,866
Good. Good. I'm glad.
1041
00:45:57,755 --> 00:45:58,875
A pair of billboards
1042
00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:00,092
in New York City's
Times Square
1043
00:46:00,132 --> 00:46:01,182
are attracting
far more interest
1044
00:46:01,216 --> 00:46:02,426
than the normal advertisements.
1045
00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:04,258
They were paid for
by a high-profile group
1046
00:46:04,303 --> 00:46:06,853
of Republicans opposed to the
reelection of president Trump.
1047
00:46:07,514 --> 00:46:09,894
Look up from
New York City's Times Square,
1048
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:12,143
and you'll see
Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump
1049
00:46:12,186 --> 00:46:13,846
Trump smiling down at you.
1050
00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:15,646
But the couple
isn't happy about that.
1051
00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:17,859
The billboards featuring them
are the work
1052
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,110
of The Lincoln Project.
1053
00:46:20,152 --> 00:46:23,112
The billboards went up
just days before Election Day.
1054
00:46:32,915 --> 00:46:35,825
"Dear Lincoln Project persons,
1055
00:46:35,876 --> 00:46:39,626
we represent Mr. Jared Kushner
and Ms. Ivanka Trump."
1056
00:46:39,671 --> 00:46:41,671
"I'm writing concerning
the false malicious
1057
00:46:41,715 --> 00:46:43,425
and defamatory ads
that The Lincoln Project
1058
00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:45,967
is displaying on billboards
in Times Square.
1059
00:46:46,011 --> 00:46:48,851
Those ads show Ms. Trump
smiling and gesturing
1060
00:46:48,889 --> 00:46:51,389
toward a death count
of Americans and New Yorkers
1061
00:46:51,433 --> 00:46:53,733
and attribute to Mr. Kushner
the statement that
1062
00:46:53,769 --> 00:46:55,979
'New Yorkers
are going to suffer
1063
00:46:56,021 --> 00:46:57,651
and that's their problem.'"
1064
00:46:57,689 --> 00:46:59,319
"Of course, Mr. Kushner
never made any such statement."
1065
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:01,488
He did.
1066
00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:02,987
"Ms. Trump never made
any such gesture."
1067
00:47:03,028 --> 00:47:04,658
She did.
1068
00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:06,486
"And The Lincoln Project's
representation that they did
1069
00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,452
is an outrageous
and shameful libel.
1070
00:47:08,492 --> 00:47:10,952
If these billboard ads
are not immediately removed,
1071
00:47:10,994 --> 00:47:12,964
we will sue you
for what will doubtless be
1072
00:47:12,996 --> 00:47:16,036
enormous compensatory
and punitive damages."
1073
00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:18,963
Basically, like, "Take
the billboard down immediately,
1074
00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:20,962
or we're going to sue you."
1075
00:47:21,004 --> 00:47:23,224
I'm telling you
right now, right,
1076
00:47:23,257 --> 00:47:25,927
that letter that they sent
to us is going out.
1077
00:47:25,968 --> 00:47:28,848
- We're not taking it down.
- Yeah.
1078
00:47:28,887 --> 00:47:30,507
And we will attack
the shit out of them.
1079
00:47:30,556 --> 00:47:31,716
- Yeah,
- 100%.
1080
00:47:31,765 --> 00:47:33,515
Yeah.
1081
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:38,056
I've never been sued
by a Trump before.
1082
00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:39,725
I know, man. I have--
1083
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,443
Congratulations?
1084
00:47:41,483 --> 00:47:42,613
This is gonna be fun.
1085
00:47:42,651 --> 00:47:45,201
So what is it--
what's your sense of it?
1086
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:46,357
- They're suing us personally.
- What's that?
1087
00:47:46,405 --> 00:47:48,065
They're suing us personally.
1088
00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:48,905
Yeah, they're
personally suing us for libel.
1089
00:47:48,949 --> 00:47:50,329
- Okay.
- Yeah.
1090
00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:52,697
My sense is,
this is perfectly protected,
1091
00:47:52,744 --> 00:47:54,754
First Amendment free speech,
1092
00:47:54,788 --> 00:47:56,368
and it's gonna be a big fight.
1093
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:59,035
And we'll probably raise
a lot of money on it,
1094
00:47:59,084 --> 00:48:00,674
and I think it'll
get people fired up.
1095
00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:04,264
Who the fuck
do they think we are?
1096
00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:06,008
It's offensive.
1097
00:48:06,049 --> 00:48:08,889
It's offensive that they think
we'd be intimidated by it.
1098
00:48:09,845 --> 00:48:11,755
Political speech
is the highest form
1099
00:48:11,805 --> 00:48:14,055
of protected communication
under the Constitution.
1100
00:48:17,311 --> 00:48:19,941
They are who we said they are.
1101
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:22,070
We put up a billboard
in Times Square
1102
00:48:22,107 --> 00:48:24,477
which we knew would have
the exact effect
1103
00:48:24,526 --> 00:48:26,236
we wanted it to have.
1104
00:48:26,278 --> 00:48:27,988
And they had their lawyer
send us some shitty letter,
1105
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:31,910
which we're like,
"Thank you. Thank you."
1106
00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:34,700
That's great.
That's great.
1107
00:48:39,791 --> 00:48:41,671
Hello.
1108
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:43,340
- Philip?
- Yes.
1109
00:48:43,378 --> 00:48:44,838
Hey, it's Maria
with OUTFRONT Media.
1110
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,170
- How are you?
- I'm doing well.
1111
00:48:46,214 --> 00:48:47,474
How about yourself?
1112
00:48:47,507 --> 00:48:48,837
And just to let you know,
you're on speaker
1113
00:48:48,884 --> 00:48:51,394
with Conor Rogers,
who's our digital director.
1114
00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:53,258
Hey, Maria.
1115
00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:55,555
I'm just confirming again that
there's no potential issues
1116
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,099
with political content.
1117
00:48:57,851 --> 00:49:00,231
If you have
something that you can send me
1118
00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:02,020
so I can take a look at
real quick--
1119
00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:04,484
Yeah, we have six examples
we can show you.
1120
00:49:04,524 --> 00:49:08,744
In your inbox should be
all of our proposed creative.
1121
00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:11,109
- Okay.
- Yeah.
1122
00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:14,530
Take a look at that.
1123
00:49:14,576 --> 00:49:17,036
Let me just tap in here.
1124
00:49:19,164 --> 00:49:22,424
"Trump lied.
200,000-plus died."
1125
00:49:22,459 --> 00:49:24,459
- Okay. Got it.
- Yeah.
1126
00:49:25,545 --> 00:49:28,585
Just based on what you're
seeing, how's it look?
1127
00:49:30,342 --> 00:49:31,472
I don't think
we're gonna have
1128
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:34,260
a problem with this.
1129
00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:35,934
I mean, it's politics.
1130
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:39,183
I guess, that's--I don't see
a problem with it.
1131
00:49:39,226 --> 00:49:41,226
It is what it is.
I'm, like--
1132
00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:43,439
Thank you very much,
'cause we've had
1133
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,230
some fun conversations
with other vendors this week.
1134
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:48,358
I will send this
to my legal department
1135
00:49:48,402 --> 00:49:49,492
just to make sure that,
you know,
1136
00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:50,528
they're okay with it.
1137
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:52,200
- Okay.
- Okay.
1138
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,449
And if there's
any problem with any of them,
1139
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,660
- I'll let you guys know.
- Okay, sounds fantastic.
1140
00:49:55,701 --> 00:49:57,241
- Thank you so much.
- Okay. Thanks.
1141
00:49:57,285 --> 00:49:58,615
Uh-huh, bye-bye.
1142
00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:00,832
Let's go. Mm-hmm.
1143
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,010
I got the letter,
the legal letter,
1144
00:50:08,046 --> 00:50:10,666
that we're gonna send back.
1145
00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:13,336
Here, guys, this will be
perfectly dramatic for you.
1146
00:50:15,721 --> 00:50:18,351
"Dear Mr. Kasowitz, I write to
respond to your recent letter
1147
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,520
in which you threaten to sue
my client, The Lincoln Project,
1148
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,189
for openly criticizing
Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.
1149
00:50:23,228 --> 00:50:25,148
Please peddle
your scare tactics elsewhere."
1150
00:50:25,188 --> 00:50:26,608
Nice.
1151
00:50:26,648 --> 00:50:27,608
"The Lincoln Project
will not be intimidated
1152
00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:30,109
by such empty bluster.
1153
00:50:30,152 --> 00:50:32,612
Your clients are no longer mere
Upper East Side socialites..."
1154
00:50:32,654 --> 00:50:34,454
"...able to sue
at the slightest offense
1155
00:50:34,489 --> 00:50:36,199
to their personal sensitivities.
1156
00:50:36,241 --> 00:50:39,201
Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump
are public officials.
1157
00:50:39,244 --> 00:50:41,714
They have been public officials
since President Trump,
1158
00:50:41,747 --> 00:50:43,787
in a gross act of nepotism,
1159
00:50:43,832 --> 00:50:45,632
awarded Mr. Kushner
and Ms. Trump
1160
00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:48,047
senior White House positions
in 2017."
1161
00:50:48,086 --> 00:50:50,666
"Fortunately, substantial
constitutional protections
1162
00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:53,684
are afforded to those who speak
out about public officials.
1163
00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:55,217
Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump
will hear more
1164
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,390
from The Lincoln Project soon."
1165
00:50:57,429 --> 00:50:59,219
- Okay, I emailed this to you.
- Okay.
1166
00:50:59,264 --> 00:51:00,894
I forwarded this.
So let's just blast it.
1167
00:51:00,932 --> 00:51:02,392
- Okay. Yeah.
- You know what?
1168
00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:04,604
- Let's just pump it out.
- Gonna send it now.
1169
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,776
We've raised,
at last check this morning,
1170
00:51:14,821 --> 00:51:18,741
approximately $1.5 million
in relation to the--
1171
00:51:18,784 --> 00:51:20,044
Billboards.
1172
00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,617
The Times Square billboards.
1173
00:51:21,661 --> 00:51:23,871
So if anybody wants to send
an edible arrangement
1174
00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:26,584
to Jared and Ivanka,
please do.
1175
00:51:29,377 --> 00:51:30,917
I just had them rotate in
1176
00:51:30,962 --> 00:51:33,092
a piece of fundraising
creative for the billboards.
1177
00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:34,511
Okay, let's see.
1178
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:37,589
It's currently turning
a 6.4x ROI
1179
00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:38,926
on immediate conversion.
1180
00:51:40,806 --> 00:51:42,266
It's insane.
1181
00:51:42,307 --> 00:51:45,767
For every dollar we spend,
$6.40, yeah,
1182
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:47,601
which means you push
the gas pedal down,
1183
00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:50,566
'cause that's gonna
mint money for...
1184
00:51:50,607 --> 00:51:54,437
probably the next four
to five days, I would imagine.
1185
00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:55,776
Despite the incredible press
1186
00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:57,911
we've gotten on billboards,
1187
00:51:57,948 --> 00:51:59,448
the feedback
we are still hearing is,
1188
00:51:59,491 --> 00:52:00,951
"Why are we spending money
in New York City
1189
00:52:00,992 --> 00:52:02,622
- when that's on"--
- Yeah.
1190
00:52:02,661 --> 00:52:04,081
"Why are we not
spending the money elsewhere?"
1191
00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:05,791
Because for a $100,000 investment,
1192
00:52:05,831 --> 00:52:07,541
we've raised $1.5 million
1193
00:52:07,582 --> 00:52:09,002
to put into places
like Georgia
1194
00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:11,712
and South Carolina
and Florida.
1195
00:52:11,753 --> 00:52:13,883
In the final stretch
of the election,
1196
00:52:13,922 --> 00:52:15,302
this is what they're
gonna be focused on.
1197
00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:20,304
Not Joe Biden,
not trying to win,
1198
00:52:20,345 --> 00:52:22,555
attacking The Lincoln Project.
1199
00:52:22,597 --> 00:52:24,387
And we're in the process
1200
00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:26,312
of getting lots more space
1201
00:52:26,351 --> 00:52:29,151
in lots of other places
to put these billboards up
1202
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:31,517
all over the country.
1203
00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:36,816
Trump is the child
of privilege.
1204
00:52:36,862 --> 00:52:38,112
Mm-hmm.
1205
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:39,445
Ivanka is a child
of privilege...
1206
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:40,949
- Mm-hmm.
- ...and no consequence.
1207
00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:43,161
Jared is a child of privilege
and no consequence.
1208
00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:45,661
These people have
consistently had the world
1209
00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:47,164
laid out at their feet.
1210
00:52:47,205 --> 00:52:49,325
They're the kind of people
who see a billboard
1211
00:52:49,374 --> 00:52:50,674
that tells the truth
about them...
1212
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:51,839
- Yeah.
- And freak out.
1213
00:52:51,877 --> 00:52:52,997
...and freak out
and send us
1214
00:52:53,044 --> 00:52:54,344
a cease-and-desist letter.
1215
00:52:54,379 --> 00:52:55,669
- Yeah.
- So...
1216
00:52:55,714 --> 00:52:57,094
And we should note
that our response,
1217
00:52:57,132 --> 00:53:00,762
not just in writing
via our attorney
1218
00:53:00,802 --> 00:53:03,222
but in practice
is going to be to put more
1219
00:53:03,263 --> 00:53:04,223
- of these billboards up.
- Right.
1220
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:11,685
And as of today,
when this episode is released,
1221
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,110
we will have
the same artwork
1222
00:53:14,149 --> 00:53:17,439
circling around Mar-a-Lago
on a giant boat
1223
00:53:17,485 --> 00:53:20,155
designed to be
a digital billboard.
1224
00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:23,117
dramatic music
1225
00:54:22,384 --> 00:54:23,934
Hey, Siri,
call Steve Schmidt.
1226
00:54:25,845 --> 00:54:27,595
Calling Steve Schmidt mobile.
1227
00:54:30,850 --> 00:54:31,940
Hey, man.
1228
00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:36,478
We're gonna have
to have a talk about John.
1229
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:38,023
He's lost his fucking mind.
1230
00:54:38,066 --> 00:54:39,526
'Cause he wants $10 million
for Texas.
1231
00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:41,697
I'm like,
"John, go fuck yourself.
1232
00:54:41,736 --> 00:54:44,606
Fran says we can't even raise
$1 million for Texas."
1233
00:54:44,656 --> 00:54:47,076
And he's like,
"You promised me
1234
00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:48,577
we would all get on calls
again."
1235
00:54:48,618 --> 00:54:50,248
And I was like, "John,
it's not working out that way.
1236
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:51,787
That's not how it's gonna be."
1237
00:54:51,830 --> 00:54:54,290
And he's like, "I'll blow
this whole thing up tomorrow.
1238
00:54:54,332 --> 00:54:56,962
If you don't do Texas, I'll
suicide bomber you fuckers."
1239
00:54:57,002 --> 00:55:00,012
I'm like, "You're in no
position to blow anything up."
1240
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:04,045
I mean, we gotta keep
the fucking guy--
1241
00:55:04,092 --> 00:55:06,552
we gotta keep the guy
under control for 19 more days.
1242
00:55:06,594 --> 00:55:08,684
And so I may need
you guys to back me up.
1243
00:55:08,722 --> 00:55:13,142
So, you know, we're gonna have
to cross that bridge.
1244
00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:23,737
stately music
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