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KNOCKING
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Hello? Good morning, Mr Holoborodko.
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Can I connect you
with Angela Merkel?
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Yes, you can connect.
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NEWS ANCHOR: An actor,
known for his TV role
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as President of Ukraine,
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is now set to take over
that position in real life.
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He was extraordinarily popular.
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He impressed immediately,
like, "Wow!"
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He played the kind of character
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that Ukraine was dreaming about.
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Ukraine is a place where the destiny
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of this century
will be hammered out.
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EXPLOSION
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We're going to be surrounded
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within 40 minutes or so.
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This is a threat to democracy
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for the world.
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Imagine, imagine
being in that situation.
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I think it's the President
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who can really tell this story.
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CHEERING
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Nothing could dampen
the sheer exuberance
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that welcomed in the 1990s, as
an explosion of colour and sound
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released the pent-up emotions
of the past decade.
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The most evocative symbol of
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the divide between East and West,
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the Berlin Wall, is open
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to East Germans to walk through.
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Vladimir Putin watched the fall
of the Berlin Wall with horror.
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When the Soviet Union collapsed,
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the kind of...the security guys,
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the power guys, the spook guys
were on the back foot.
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By this point, Putin's
a mid-ranking KGB spy,
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working undercover
in communist East Germany.
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And as demonstrators were trying
to storm the Stasi building...
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..he called Moscow for instruction,
and he said Moscow was silent.
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Boris Yeltsin had come
to bury the Soviet Union
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and to build the new Commonwealth.
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This will not be a single state,
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rather, a collection
of independent countries.
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The Soviet Union
had ceased to exist.
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Many people here find it hard
to trust the Russians.
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They blame them for
years of suppression of
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the Ukrainian culture,
and they're worried that
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Russia may not accept the Ukraine
as an equal partner.
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While Putin is fuming
back in Russia,
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a teenager called Volodymyr Zelensky
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is coming of age in the new Ukraine.
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Hello. Hello. Mr President,
thank you so much for your time.
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Thank you. Thank you very much, yes.
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My colleagues. Yeah.
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Hi. Hi.
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Through this mirror, can you see me?
I see your face.
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If you could go back to
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the 16-year-old Volodymyr...
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16? 16.
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..and tell him that
he would become President...?
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When I was 16, no.
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No. But it's not...
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Of course, of course
I had another dream,
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another view of my life, of future.
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Really, I think that
people who are 16,
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they don't think about future,
they think about today, really.
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And today, when I was 16,
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I was not thinking about
any politics, any mission.
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Your future is next week. That
is your closest dream, your...
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Something like this.
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What WERE your dreams?
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I was very free.
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It's the end of Soviet Union.
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Young people, what they want?
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They want to be free,
they wanted to see the planet.
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And to go where? Everywhere.
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Just for some dreams.
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You just want to meet, speak,
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and your eyes are big.
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And, of course, I wanted
to find me in this big world.
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Of course, my parents wanted me
to be, you know, er, calm,
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to be calm, yes,
and to study, and that's it.
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I found time for everything.
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Freedom, it's a great thing,
freedom.
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It's an amazing journey.
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Zelensky, he came from
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eastern part of Ukraine,
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industrialised and, you know,
heavily populated.
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The new generation
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wanted to become a new,
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successful Eastern European country.
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I love my city. It's not capital,
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and it's, like, what do you love?
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You love people who are around you,
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so people, girls, boys
who are from your childhood.
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Thank you.
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Uh, did you order a coffee?
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No, whisky! Ah!
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Friendship.
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I loved my city because
my childhood was there,
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because my friends
been there, near me.
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Great time.
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We had nothing,
but we had everything.
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I saw him...
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We had an English lesson
in my class,
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and the teach...it was speaking.
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And she went off, and she
returned in five minutes
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with two very young kids.
It was a very, very tall girl
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and a very, very small boy.
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And teacher said,
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"Speak on this topic - London.
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"Volo, show them how to do that."
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And he started like, "London is
the capital of Great Britain,
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"situated on the River Thames,"
and I was really shocked because...
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..his voice didn't fit to his size,
because he was really small.
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Day by day, gradually,
we became friends.
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I didn't know Volodymyr yet,
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but his father, um,
study...was a teacher.
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I teach technology in the '90s.
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He was very charismatic
and very funny.
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And all students,
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we know that he is very honest.
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Zelensky inherited from
his father principles.
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And on the other hand is his mother.
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Humble, very loving Jewish woman.
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Long hair.
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Guitar, long hair.
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Rings, earrings,
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something rock and roll.
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Were you cool?
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I think...
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I think...
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You have to ask my wife, of course.
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But, but...I think, yes.
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He was cool, yeah.
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So, he was a little bit of
a troublemaker?
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He was always.
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Really? Yeah.
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Is that what you found attractive?
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Um, being honest, no.
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So, when did romance start?
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One of the best, I think, moments
in my life, when I met my wife.
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I just looked at her and I think
I just loved, and that's it.
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I saw her at school.
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When we began to speak,
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when I understood who is she,
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and I hope she understood
who am I...
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Did that take some time?
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For me or for her? For her.
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Sorry!
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I don't know.
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I saw Volodymyr the first time
like an actor.
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Volodymyr, with his friends,
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took part in a competition.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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And I remember, "Best actor
is...Volodymyr Zelensky!"
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"Me? Me?" And, "Yes. Yes, you!"
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His eyes, it was like big plate.
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After that, he believe in himself.
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You know, when the universe,
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er, priznayut, recognised you.
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He was very good comedian,
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and we were big fans of KVN.
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This show, KVN,
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was legendary in the Soviet times.
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If I tried to describe it to you,
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it would be kind of televised
competition of stand-up comedians.
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It gained an extraordinary,
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enormous popularity.
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We decided to make our own team.
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You have to improvise.
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You have to show things that you've
been rehearsing. The main thing,
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it have to be funny.
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I was on the jury.
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Oh, he impressed immediately,
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because he was
making fun of everything.
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Hello...
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I remember, he makes a joke
on...and very rude jokes
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on the President.
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"SOS, America, SOS".
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In Russian, er, he's speaking,
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it sounds like "suck me".
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Suck me? Yes!
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The show, for many young people,
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was the only platform for irony
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and, sometimes, even satire.
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And that's why it was absolutely
unexpected for Russian viewers.
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I believe they managed to make
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the only political satire
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in the former Soviet Union.
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Clever.
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THEY SING
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We loved him immediately.
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And basically, he won
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this Ukrainian league of KVN.
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And he was invited to do, with his
team, the run for Russian league.
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That was, in that time, considered
to be the kind of Premier League.
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Moscow League, they show you
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on TV, on primetime.
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It was the top.
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There's nothing higher than that.
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CHEERING
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At the same time that
Zelensky discovered that
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his entertainment skills could
win an audience, Vladimir Putin
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had discovered that his gifts for
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surviving had taken him to the point
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where Boris Yeltsin made him
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Prime Minister of
the Russian Federation.
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He was made Yeltsin's heir.
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Mr Yeltsin now has named him as
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his chosen candidate in next year's
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race for the presidency.
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Mr Putin's task will be
to build up his own support
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and destroy Mr Yeltsin's
political opponents.
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Putin coming to that,
why would he have done that?
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You know, to use the...
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I would say to exploit
the popularity of the show.
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SINGING
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This show has an extraordinary,
enormous popularity.
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He used this chance to be seen
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able to smile, to laugh,
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and there were a few jokes
about him.
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He said, "We're going to Kyiv
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"to start our own company."
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He was always saying kind of,
"Let's do it. We'll succeed."
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What was Volodymyr Zelensky's role
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in all this?
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I'm a big fan of basketball...
Mm-hm.
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..and I can compare it to
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Michael Jordan in Chicago Bulls.
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They won everything because of him.
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He's a kind of locomotive
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that pulls the train.
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Not only frontman on the stage,
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he's main writer, chief editor,
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he made decisions in finances,
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he was a leader in everything.
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And I always trusted him because
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I believe that he has his lucky star
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that leads him, that helps him.
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Putin's first visit as President
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was meeting the Prime Minister
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and for talks in Number Ten.
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We're just doing to go
right down here...
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We are beginning to build up what
looks like a useful relationship.
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Prime Minister, how are you?
Thanks so much. Not at all.
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Really great. Really enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you.
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Putin, you could see he was
trying to put on the charm.
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Putin was very controlled,
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would occasionally
try to show a bit of humour.
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Language is already pre-set.
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Er, Russian is on channel three.
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Next time, make sure that
the Russian is on channel one.
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LAUGHTER
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The thing that struck
all of us about Putin
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was his eyes - very
small, rather cold.
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We were asking ourselves
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if he was for real about wanting to
build up relations with the West.
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All went pretty well and was very
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constructive, except for one moment.
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Right.
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Er, one last question, I think,
is all we've got time for, so...
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I wanted to ask President Putin
that there are many concerns
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in Britain and elsewhere about
the conduct of the war in Chechnya.
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How does he propose to show
people in the Western world
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that those fears are misplaced?
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Putin became highly emotional,
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almost paranoid.
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He really couldn't discuss it
in any kind of rational way.
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And I would discover,
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talking to Putin's staff,
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that he wouldn't just do this with
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foreigners. They would say to me,
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"Look, it's impossible to talk
to him, he just gets angry."
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After the 2004 election,
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Putin became a much more confident,
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much more assertive individual,
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and unpleasant things
started happening.
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In Ukraine, mysteriously,
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a pro-Western candidate
for election was poisoned.
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NEWS ANCHOR: Now, more on this
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developing story about the poisoning
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of one of the presidential
candidates in Ukraine.
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Viktor Yushchenko has claimed
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he was poisoned by
his political enemies.
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Nobody knows who did it,
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but it looked a little bit like
a KGB operation.
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The Russian intelligence services
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have a well-known, long history of
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poisoning people they do not like.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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With that particular show,
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Zelensky has become
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extraordinarily popular in Ukraine.
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So he set up his own company
with his partners,
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and he started to produce
more and more shows.
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And the only step left for him
not exploited and not explored,
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that was movies.
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Volodymyr said, "Sometime,
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"I will be on Oscars stage,
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"and all audience
will applause to us,
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"to us and our job, our work."
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LOUD BUBBLING
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Ah, Russia!
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His movies were
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extraordinarily popular
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in Ukraine, but also, in Russia...
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..with millions of people watching.
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What can you have more
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in that particular moment?
What could be more? Nothing.
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But, you know, as always in life,
that was something between
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the complete dramatic change,
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turn of the circumstances,
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and so it turned out to be
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the end of the whole epoch.
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Boris Yeltsin's funeral
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was a symbolic moment for Russia...
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..marking the transition from
one order to another.
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By this stage,
it was Putin's Russia.
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At Yeltsin's funeral,
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very significantly, we
see Viktor Yanukovych.
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He is the Ukrainian that Vladimir
Putin wishes to have in power.
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It was absolutely critical,
from Putin's point of view,
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that he should control Ukraine.
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Without Yanukovych,
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Zelensky might have never left
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the world of entertainment.
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In Ukraine, Yanukovych
was practically...
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..the boss of
the organised crime group,
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not even trying to hide it!
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I met him.
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Yanukovych was always a bandit.
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He was a typical, you know,
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considered to be a typical criminal.
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Putin eventually got his wish,
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and Yanukovych became
President of Ukraine in 2010.
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Soon after he became President,
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Ukraine was being plundered
by Yanukovych and his friends.
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On the outskirts of Kyiv,
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he builds a naff estate,
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with a pirate galleon and a zoo.
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He had turned Ukraine
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into a laughing stock.
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He looted the state, he made
his dentist son a billionaire,
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and he jailed his main opponents.
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Mr Yanukovych denies allegations
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of embezzling state funds,
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or of hiding millions of dollars
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in foreign bank accounts.
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Ukraine has been pretty badly
governed since 1990,
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but it's always had
freedom of expression.
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And one could see younger people
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who wanted Ukraine to be
a more honest,
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better governed,
more European country,
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and Zelensky is
the embodiment of it.
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They're not against Russia,
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but they were pro becoming part of
Europe and the European Union.
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The turning point was when
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Yanukovych tore up an agreement
with the European Union -
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which was basically a symbol,
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a sign that Ukraine was
integrating with the West -
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and accepted a bail-out from
Vladimir Putin and Russia.
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Erm, and there were protests.
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CHANTING
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NEWS REPORTER: People have come
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throughout the day, surging out of
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the Metro with European Union flags
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with the national flag of Ukraine,
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and they are rallying
in the centre of this square.
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CHEERING
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Yanukovych was under a great deal
of pressure to clear the square.
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He was getting clear signals
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from Moscow, from the Kremlin,
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to put down the rebellion,
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and it led to a series of
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increasingly violent
clashes with police.
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REPORTER: This is a scene of
absolute chaos.
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The police are throwing stun...
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EXPLOSION
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There is total...
EXPLOSION
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This is a major political crisis
in Ukraine.
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The Maidan Revolution,
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what impact did those events
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have on you, personally?
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A lot.
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I think all of us -
I mean, about our group -
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we thought, how to help
this situation?
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We didn't think about any, you know,
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political future, or something.
It's not ambition.
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It's not my ambitions, in those
times, without any thoughts.
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You... You...had to make a choice.
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What is the price of your life? Yes.
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In the car, going there,
did you plan what to say,
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or was it just spontaneous?
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I planned. I...
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First of all, we are honest.
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We decided at the very beginning of
our dialogue. Please! Yes. All...
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All... All which is spontaneous,
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you...you have to prepare something.
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I drived to the studio,
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of course, I thought,
what I have to say?
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I have to address
to everybody I can.
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You feel that you can help now,
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and you want just to address
something to help with something.
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What I had, I said.
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I understood that if, of course,
I was popular,
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it was important because my messages
would be not only to Ukraine,
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also, to Russia,
I was very popular in Russia.
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It's stunning,
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because he - already, in 2014 -
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is talking to Putin as an equal.
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That's the moment when the comedian
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stopped joking and became serious.
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REPORTER: This CCTV footage
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appears to show Mr Yanukovych's
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entourage fleeing by helicopter.
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The former President's
current whereabouts are a mystery.
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Putin's man in Ukraine, Yanukovych,
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has been ousted by
a democratic protest.
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So this is a humiliation
for Putin and, at this stage,
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Putin feels he has got to do
something to get his own back...
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..so he goes for Crimea.
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REPORTER: A platoon of troops
deployed this morning around
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the main airport in Crimea.
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This is sovereign
Ukrainian territory.
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These were not Ukrainian troops.
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Then he did a second thing.
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He sent troops into
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Donetsk and Luhansk,
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eastern provinces of Ukraine,
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and he started a war
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in those two provinces.
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Putin claimed, "We are not ourselves
fighting in those regions,"
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but it was entirely obvious
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to the world, they were.
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Many people inside of Ukraine
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cut off the ties with Russia,
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and most important challenge
was for Zelensky.
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Zelensky needed to choose between
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the Russian prospects of business
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and Ukrainian identity.
440
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Can you work? Can you...
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Can you sell products to Russia?
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When you have company,
a lot of people, they need work
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and they need job,
and business between a lot of...
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But you have to choose.
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So the decision was, we stop.
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We will stop all the relations.
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So we closed the offices, and we...
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That's it. That's it.
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And all of us, we wanted to change
our work. I mean, this...
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Now, this, to do some more
movies or TV programmes,
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so documentary and dramas,
something new for Ukraine.
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And then came Servant of the People.
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The premise is quite simple.
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You have an everyman -
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a school teacher,
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who is fed up with corruption
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and misrule in Ukraine, and is
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talking to his sort of
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secondary school students,
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and starts ranting about
the state of the country.
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One of his students films it
on a phone, posts it online
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and this thing goes viral.
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He goes from being an ordinary guy
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to running a country.
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Zelensky was an actor, but he was
telling them something true about
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the society in which they live,
where there was impunity
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for the rich, where politicians
routinely stole.
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So you see these oligarchs -
sometimes, faceless -
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around the table, saying
they can control Zelensky
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and, of course, Zelensky doesn't
go according to their script.
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We always had a President
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that we wanted to change.
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At first, we kind of liked them,
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and in a year,
we wanted to change them.
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And he played the kind of character
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that Ukraine was dreaming about.
477
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,960
What's so delightful about the show
478
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is that it blurs
fiction and reality.
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So much of it was actually shot
in Mezhyhirya,
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which was Yanukovych's play palace,
on the outskirts of Kyiv.
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Servant of the People has expressed
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the willingness of Ukrainians,
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you know, to start the newer life,
really new life.
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Not with the people from the past.
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It made people believe
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that change is possible.
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He became even more popular
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because of
the Servant of the People.
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He was Paddington.
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By the summer of 2018,
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he was one of the most popular
people in Ukraine.
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00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,680
I remember that the rumours
started to fly around.
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In different TV shows,
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in internet and YouTube,
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they started to talk about
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Zelensky taking part in elections.
497
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And we were thinking, "So what
is that, it's kind of a joke?"
498
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And, of course, we ask him
what it's all about.
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He was answering in, like, in jokes.
500
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But day by day, month by month,
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00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,240
it was more obvious
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that it's not a joke.
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That something going to happen.
504
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,920
So your husband made
a public announcement
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that he was running for President,
and he hadn't told you?
506
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Weren't you...?
THEY LAUGH
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What did you say to him?
508
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,920
And more important, what did he say
to you? What was his excuse?
509
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,400
She was honest,
that's why she was angry.
510
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And I think that, er...
511
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She's smart,
and I think she knew about it.
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Not from me, but she understood
everything before.
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Of course, she understood,
I think so.
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But she was not ready to,
you know, to recognise it
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and to hear it. She was afraid,
because new challenges,
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now we see that she was right,
a lot of challenges.
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Yes, and I...
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I did everything oppositely,
so I'm...I'm sorry.
519
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,520
I'm sorry. I... I...
520
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:23,560
I can tell now, "Sorry, my love,
I'm so sorry, yes." Um...
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Yes, difficult decision.
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But she understood that
I couldn't do other way.
523
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It's the decision of your life.
524
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,120
You... You made this choice,
525
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,840
and if she had opportunity
526
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,840
to change my mind,
527
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,440
I think she couldn't do it.
528
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,880
He's named his political party
529
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Servant of the People as well.
530
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,360
I was scriptwriter
531
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,040
at Servant of the People,
532
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,720
and now I am speech writer.
533
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,840
It was something new.
534
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,920
We didn't know how it works.
We didn't know how...
535
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,840
We didn't know what is
a political election campaign,
536
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,560
er, actually.
537
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,840
We don't have a big budget.
538
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,080
We have one office and 30 people.
That's nothing.
539
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,800
Zelensky's main opponent was Petro
Poroshenko, the incumbent President.
540
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Poroshenko was always challenging
Zelensky for the bid.
541
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,280
And the basic idea of Poroshenko
was very simple,
542
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,040
to demonstrate
the ignorance of Zelensky.
543
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:25,560
CROWD CHANTS
544
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,720
Zelensky came up with a great idea -
545
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,760
to do the debate in
546
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,840
a very familiar format. The show.
547
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,240
The performance. Stage.
548
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,040
With an audience.
549
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,400
Poroshenko was the war guy,
550
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,320
who would fight Russia,
who would support the military
551
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,880
who were in the east,
fighting this kind of brutal war.
552
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,520
Zelensky said, "I am the peace guy.
553
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
"I will bring peace to the East.
554
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,040
"I will sit down with
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
555
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,440
"and we will reach a settlement."
556
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,400
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
557
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,600
REPORTER: When will you
stand up to Putin?
558
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,040
Are you ready to be President?
559
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,400
I... I don't know. The people will
decide it in the evening.
560
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,360
CHEERING
561
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,320
I understood everything,
before election,
562
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,320
it will be very difficult,
very difficult.
563
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200
And at this moment,
you understand that...
564
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,360
..it's not about difficulties,
it's about another life.
565
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,440
That's it. Another life.
566
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,600
To find out more about Ukraine
567
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,080
and some of the influential people
whose stories have shaped it,
568
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,520
go to bbc.co.uk/zelensky,
569
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,160
and follow the links to the Open
University's interactive gallery.
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