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{\an8}By 2009,
Quentin Tarantino
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{\an8}was at the top of his game.
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{\an8}We just wanna say we're
a big fan of your work.
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and the world.
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"Inglorious Bastards"
was a huge hit.
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He'd
taken the inglorious
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and covered himself in glory.
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Made over $300 million
at the box office.
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Sound good?
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Yes, sir.
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Leading
some to conclude--
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This is your masterpiece.
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He had also established
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a reputation for
rewriting history.
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We hear a story
too good to be true,
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- it ain't.
- I really think
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that's his own genre.
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Damn good stuff, sir.
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A slightly better
version of history.
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The man can just
flat out fucking write.
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And despite
plenty of pushback,
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he wasn't done using history
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as his personal pinata.
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In fact, he was about
to bring it all home.
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It's a big part
of our history.
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Gotta get going now.
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Being on that plantation,
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it was really soul wrenching.
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Few
Hollywood filmmakers
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had taken on a subject
matter this sensitive...
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It was all the
things that we know,
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all the things that our
forefathers have experienced.
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...this
controversial...
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What's the Black
intelligentsia
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gonna say about this film?
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I ain't impressed.
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...or this risky.
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Who the hell is this nigga?
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Poitier said to him, "You
got to face this head on."
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She didn't have a body double.
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I was horrified.
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Let alone
in quite this way.
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Tarantino might not be
the first white director
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to take on slavery...
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There was a lot of controversy
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about the fact that Quentin
was making the film.
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It'd be disrespectful
to my ancestors.
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A movie directed
by a white guy
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that has the N word in it
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like 572 times or
whatever it is.
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You want me to
play a Black slaver?
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...but for
"Django Unchained"
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not to be his undoing...
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There was a lot of people
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feeling deeply uncomfortable.
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...he'd have
to walk a very fine line.
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Django.
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If "Inglorious
Bastards" proved anything,
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it was that Tarantino
relished playing God
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when playing with history.
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But following the
World War II epic,
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whom the director
chose to play with
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was set to change.
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Longtime producer and
confidant Lawrence Bender
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was about to be consigned
to history himself.
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{\an8}They definitely have had
times apart and friction,
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{\an8}and they've had times
together and great joy.
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I think it's like
any relationship.
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They had just kind of run
their course at that point.
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{\an8}Lawrence had his
other interests.
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{\an8}It wasn't just Quentin anymore.
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He was Lawrence
Bender Productions.
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While
three producers
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would fill the Lawrence
Bender-shaped void
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on Tarantino's next movie,
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the idea for the film was
seeded 15 years earlier.
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I met Quentin Tarantino
at an awards show.
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{\an8}We just launched into
talking about movies.
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And we got into
this conversation
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about movies about slavery.
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It was 1997
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and slavery was a
subject on the minds
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of some important
American filmmakers.
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Here are the true
owners of these slaves.
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Steven
Spielberg's "Amistad,"
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the story of a slave
ship rebellion,
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had gotten Reggie thinking.
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{\an8}That movie was 5% slave revolt
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and 85% movie trial.
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- Your Honor.
- The problem
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was not about slavery,
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it was how filmmakers told
stories about slavery.
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Steven Spielberg's one
of the greatest filmmakers
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of all times,
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but that's not the
movie I wanted to see.
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I wanted to see a movie
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where the courtroom
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was kind of a bracketing device
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for a movie about
mutiny on a slave ship.
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In other words,
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a movie where justice
was served cold.
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I want a movie that had
more cathartic release to it.
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Like it was
for "Black Charley" in 1972.
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I saw that movie
when I was a kid,
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and I can't remember
a frame of the film,
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but I remember leaving
the movie feeling great
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'cause Fred Williamson
just kicked people's butts
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for 90 minutes.
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I don't want torture porn,
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I wanna feel great.
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What are you waiting for?
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And that movie delivered.
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- Out.
- Reggie wanted to see
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more Black justice
than white guilt.
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What if there were
like an A class version
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of a movie like that?
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And that's when I felt like
maybe there was
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a little light bulb
going off with Quentin.
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That kind of
just simmered away
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in Tarantino's brain.
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But
Tarantino's inspiration
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for a more victim-centered
slave story
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wouldn't come
directly from Reggie
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or even American history.
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Hey, wait a minute.
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It would come
from Italian filmmakers,
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Sergio Corbucci
and Sergio Leone--
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who had made
Spaghetti Westerns.
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A different
vision of America,
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told not by Americans,
but Italians.
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These extremely violent,
extremely gritty Westerns,
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which included one
called "Django."
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He thought, "Hang
on, I could do this
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kind of like nasty,
brutal Western,"
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which for Corbucci was
very much influenced
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by growing up and being
part of Fascist Italy.
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This is how he put together
these two concepts.
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Quentin had a title,
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borrowed partly from
Corbucci's "Django"
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and partly from the
French, Italian epic,
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"Hercules Unchained."
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And as far as Reggie knew,
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that was all.
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Jump to several years later.
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When in 2011,
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Reggie was invited to what
sounded like a baby shower
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for a newborn script.
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I get a call and he's
having a publication party.
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Publication day
is when Quentin
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{\an8}gives copies of his newly
completed screenplay
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to everyone he knows.
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Gathered to
welcome the latest edition
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to the Tarantino
family of films,
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at least in script form,
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were Hollywood luminaries.
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My favorite memory
from this experience
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was Quentin hands Warren Beatty
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a copy of the screenplay.
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The first thing Beatty does
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is go to the last page,
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and he's like, "167 pages."
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Quentin says, without
missing a beat,
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"Yep, still shorter
than 'Reds.'"
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Tarantino had no intention
of making another "Reds,"
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the three-hour plus
Warren Beatty vehicle
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that definitely needed
its intermission.
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Instead, Tarantino
had written the film
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Reggie had always wanted to see.
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A film you could say
Reggie kind of manifested.
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He said, "You were the seed
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and this script is the tree."
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I'm like, "Really?"
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Like
an excited boy,
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Reggie immediately
climbed to the tree.
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I went home and I
read "Django Unchained."
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So he called me, he said,
"What do you think?"
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I said, "Oh, I love it.
This is so great,
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and I can't wait
to see this movie.
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I'm so glad you're
going back to work."
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He goes, "Oh, no, no,
we're doing it together."
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I'm like, "What?"
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"We start work immediately."
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Reggie's
experience at Paramount
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and as president of BET
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also made him the ideal
choice for producer.
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He was also an
accomplished filmmaker.
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So, we're on our
way to house party.
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with a string
of hits under his belt.
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The first note Reggie
brought to the project
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went all the way back
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to their first
discussion years earlier
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about movies dealing
with slavery.
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For a movie on
this subject to work,
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there needs to be
a two-to-one ratio.
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And for every bad thing that
happens to an enslaved person,
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twice as many bad things
have to happen to enslavers.
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You just have to be mindful
as you make the film
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that there's payback
all along the way.
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This
formula suited Tarantino,
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who some believed
built his career
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on a different kind
of revenge porn.
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When it came to payback,
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Tarantino had one man in mind
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for the vengeful lead.
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The slave, he becomes freed,
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he becomes a bounty hunter.
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An actor
who had dispensed
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Tarantino's particular
brand of retribution
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in multiple films.
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- Who's that?
- That's Beaumont.
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That character was conceived
for Samuel L. Jackson.
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We're gonna be cool.
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The idea was
that it would start
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with Django later in his life,
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but would flash back
telling his origin story.
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But I don't want that.
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Quentin realized that
actually the whole film
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needed to be that origin story,
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and that necessarily made
Django a younger person.
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Oh, it's like that, huh?
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But Jackson
would be too old for Django.
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- Shit.
- Instead, he was offered--
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- You miss me, huh?
- Oh, yes, sir.
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the role
of a right-hand man
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to the slave owner.
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{\an8}Most Black
Americans understand
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{\an8}where that character comes from.
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You stay right here.
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A sympathizer
on the wrong side of history.
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Even though we don't
agree with that character,
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I believe sometimes
we have to show
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what the past really is
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without sugarcoating it,
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so that we can appreciate
where we are right now.
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But
what Black actor
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would be willing to be that guy?
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It might've been a hard
sell for any other actor.
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This is another cheeky Black
bugger like yourself, Stephen.
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Sam is an actor of
tremendous courage.
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The niggas we sell
to LeQuint Dickey
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got it worse than that.
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Weirdly, when it came
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to the slave owner himself...
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Quit stalling now.
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...Tarantino was
having to beat them off.
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Well, at least one guy.
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Leonardo DiCaprio
got hold of the script
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and said, "I wanna
do this film with you
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and I wanna be Calvin Candie."
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Tarantino had imagined
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an older man in the role,
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but then--
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Leonardo was not an
insubstantial piece of casting.
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You little Dickens, you.
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I don't see why not.
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So he reconfigured
the part for DiCaprio
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Actors
were lining up.
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But what about a studio?
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Nervous but committed,
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Tarantino's longtime executives,
the Weinsteins, pressed on,
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hunting for a distributor
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brave enough to take the risk.
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Quentin with a new
script and a new idea
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is gonna excite a lot
of different places.
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You know, we're
meeting with Universal
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and we're meeting with Fox
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and I think Sony was
the last big meeting.
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The studios
were falling over themselves
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to secure a deal with Tarantino.
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But a movie about slavery
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in the hands of a
renegade white director?
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Even with Tarantino,
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it raised a million questions.
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One of the top studio
execs there asked us,
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"What's the Black intelligentsia
gonna say about this film?"
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Sony was
interested in the idea
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of a new take on
America's slavery story
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despite the controversial
subject matter.
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And then people go,
"Oh, I don't wanna see
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any more slave movies."
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I go, "I get it,
no one wants to see
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the horrors of that."
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Except for this man
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and his friend,
Quentin Tarantino.
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{\an8}We have to tell the
story of the Holocaust,
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{\an8}the stories of Rwanda,
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{\an8}the stories of Cambodia.
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We have to tell the stories
of American slavery.
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All genocides must be told
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so that we don't forget.
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Because when we
forget, we repeat.
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That
said, the studio,
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much like the Weinsteins,
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had concerns.
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I'm aware this is
probably disconcerting news.
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One of the top
studio execs asked us,
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"What's the Black intelligentsia
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gonna say about this film?"
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And that's when Quentin
and I looked at each other
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like, "Well."
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You had my curiosity,
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but now you have my attention.
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Most people look
at the Black audience
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as kind of a monolith.
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And the fact is, there's all
these different constituencies
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that make up the,
quote-unquote, "Black audience."
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So the fact that this
person was aware of that
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was very impressive to me.
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Impressive enough
for Sony to secure the deal.
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So they bought it not knowing
who Django was gonna be,
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but knowing we had Sam Jackson
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and we had Leonardo.
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I say splendid.
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But
the subject matter
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was but one question mark on
the studio executives' minds.
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There was a lot of controversy
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about the fact that Quentin
was making the film.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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And this was
not just a white director,
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but a white director with
a totally different take.
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Everybody calm down.
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That's why Django
is a Southern,
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meaning it's a Western
set in the South.
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For Reggie, there
was only one man for the job.
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The only way this
story would be told
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with this excellence
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would be with someone
like Quentin Tarantino.
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But the right
woman for the job was gone.
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Tarantino was taking on his
most challenging film yet
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without his most
trusted collaborator.
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There was a lot of
concern about losing Sally.
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She was a wonderful person
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and a trusted collaborator.
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The untimely
death of editor Sally Menke
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deprived Tarantino
of a guiding light
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that had been there
since "Reservoir Dogs."
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You're right, this is bad.
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Sally
was irreplaceable.
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But there was a way to tap into
his former editor's legacy.
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I started as an
assistant editor.
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{\an8}I was working with Sally Menke.
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Fred had worked
with Sally on "Kill Bill,"
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but it was the artful skid marks
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of a major Hollywood franchise
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that sealed the deal.
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In his home theater,
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Quentin got a print
of "Tokyo Drift"
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and "Fast & Furious."
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Both films
on which Fred worked.
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And then he was going to a
midnight show of "Fast Five."
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And why'd you drag us
halfway around the world?
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'Cause we got a job.
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I didn't realize
it at the time,
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but this was Quentin
checking out my work.
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But while
Quentin was checking out Fred,
356
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Fred wasn't leaving
anything to chance.
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Hollywood appreciates
a bold move.
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I emailed Quentin.
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"I realize that
you're gonna have
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every editor in Hollywood
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knocking on your door.
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I am certainly far
less experienced
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than almost all of them,
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but I can guarantee you
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I will work harder
than any of them."
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So what do you
say, am I worthy?
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I got an email
back from Quentin.
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"I've actually
been thinking about
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having you do this with me.
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Don't take any other jobs."
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Have a good time.
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This was the single
most exciting email
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I had ever received in my
entire life.
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Exactly
whose performances
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Fred would be
finessing into a story,
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particularly in the
title character,
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remained a big question mark.
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But Tarantino had
already discovered
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the genial German
he wanted to costar.
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One of the great discoveries
in motion picture history
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is Christoph playing in
"Inglorious Bastards."
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Bingo!
How fun.
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Waltz
would play a brutal
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but sympathetic
German bounty hunter.
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Who's that stumbling
around in the dark?
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A part
Tarantino had written
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specifically for him.
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I'm Dr. King Schultz,
this is my horse, Fritz.
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But who
would play Django?
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00:14:05,053 --> 00:14:06,346
At one point, the
answer was simple.
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The biggest Black
actor in Hollywood.
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I will be at
the South Street Seaport
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every day at midday.
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00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:15,021
There were real
conversations with Will Smith.
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Who was definitely
coming from a happy place.
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I'm getting a better job.
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00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:20,193
But an
actor of Smith's clout
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was inclined to use it.
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00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:24,030
Don't ever let
somebody tell you
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you can't do something.
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00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:27,659
And Will
ultimately told Quentin
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he couldn't be in a role
this violent, ironically.
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00:14:31,621 --> 00:14:34,040
Ultimately, they
just couldn't agree
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00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,125
on things that Will wanted to do
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00:14:36,251 --> 00:14:37,877
that Quentin was like, "Nah,
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00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:40,380
that would take my script
too far off course."
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00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,966
There was another
actor with Oscar pedigree...
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I remember he told me
and the other producers,
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00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:48,179
"I'm gonna meet with
Jamie Foxx tonight."
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...who had played
everything from American icons
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You hear that?
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Her heart just skipped a beat.
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00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:54,310
to talking birds.
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So are you here for Carnival?
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00:14:56,146 --> 00:14:59,149
And I knew that Jamie
was from Terrell, Texas.
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He grew up a cowboy for real.
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00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:03,194
Jamie has his own horse.
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00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:05,029
I had no doubt
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he could pull off everything
required for the role.
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00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:10,076
And I turned to
the other producers
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and I said, "He's gonna offer
it to Jamie Foxx tonight."
422
00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:14,664
They said, "Reggie, no.
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00:15:14,789 --> 00:15:16,541
He said he's gonna meet
with every actor twice."
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I said, "I know what he said."
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00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:20,503
So the next day,
he called and said,
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00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:23,173
"Ah, so I met with Jamie."
427
00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:24,924
I said, "Yeah, how'd it go?"
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00:15:25,049 --> 00:15:26,593
And he goes, "Ah, I
offered him the role."
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00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,971
First-choice
Kerry Washington
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00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:31,681
landed the role
of Django's wife.
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00:15:31,806 --> 00:15:33,224
They call me Hildy.
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00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:34,976
Quentin and I were pretty sure
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that Kerry was pretty
perfect for the role.
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00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:40,940
I also love that her name
was Broomhilda von Shaft.
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00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:42,609
- Broomhilda?
- Mm-hmm.
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00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:45,945
I said, "Of
course her name is von Shaft."
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00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:47,697
Reggie
approved for its references
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to the iconic Black action hero
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of the '70s.
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♪ Shaft ♪
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♪ Damn right ♪
442
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"Because these are the
ancestors of John Shaft.
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And Quentin said, "They are?"
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I said, "Absolutely."
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♪ John Shaft ♪
446
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Walton Goggins
was cast as Billy Crash.
447
00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,300
A role nearly played
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00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,093
by first Kevin Costner
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00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,762
and then Kurt Russell.
450
00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:12,597
{\an8}Kurt Russell, made clothes
for him, had a fitting.
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00:16:12,722 --> 00:16:15,225
who ultimately
wasn't the right fit.
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00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:16,726
Sorry.
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00:16:16,851 --> 00:16:18,686
In the role
of Old Man Carrucan,
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00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:20,355
Tarantino decided once more
455
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,690
to reanimate another
childhood favorite.
456
00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:25,485
{\an8}He had grown up
seeing me in a bunch
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00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:28,238
of the TV Westerns, "Gunsmoke."
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00:16:28,363 --> 00:16:29,781
I got time off
for good behavior, boy.
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00:16:29,948 --> 00:16:31,157
"Big Valley."
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00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:32,492
As soon as they see me,
461
00:16:32,659 --> 00:16:34,035
they're gonna kill me.
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00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,620
He said, "Doing this
movie, 'Django,'
463
00:16:35,787 --> 00:16:37,705
and I really don't
have a part for you."
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00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:39,999
You wouldn't be playing
foxy grandpa with me?
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00:16:40,125 --> 00:16:43,044
"If Quentin wrote
a scene for you,
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00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:45,505
would you come down to
New Orleans and do it?"
467
00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:47,131
And I said--
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- All right.
- Sure.
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00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:51,052
And to
round out the ensemble,
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00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:53,138
Don Johnson emerged
from obscurity
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00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:55,598
to star as plantation
owner, Big Daddy.
472
00:16:55,765 --> 00:16:57,517
That's them sons of bitches.
473
00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:59,227
Jonah Hill was cast
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as Broomhilda's one-time
owner, Scotty Harmony.
475
00:17:02,272 --> 00:17:04,065
This was what
anyone would call...
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00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:06,359
A Quentin
Tarantino-worthy cast.
477
00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:08,528
Oh, and there
was one other cast member
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who had already worked
extensively with Jamie Foxx.
479
00:17:11,906 --> 00:17:15,076
Jamie's horse in the
movie is Jamie's horse.
480
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:17,120
And
Cheetah, as he was named,
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00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:18,663
was not just your average horse.
482
00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:21,791
♪ He's the talk of the West ♪
483
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Little tricks
that the horse does
484
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:24,586
that horse could actually do,
485
00:17:24,711 --> 00:17:26,045
and Foxx had taught
it to do that.
486
00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:28,798
♪ Alive with his Colt .45 ♪
487
00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:31,342
Foxx was a
natural in the saddle.
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The same couldn't be
said of his costar.
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{\an8}Christophe Waltz was
taking riding lessons.
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Just as shooting
was scheduled to start
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00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:40,351
in November of 2011,
492
00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:43,605
"Django Unchained" found
the first bee in its bonnet.
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A bee got under the
saddle of the horse,
494
00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,484
kicked him off,
495
00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:49,402
and he fell and broke his hip.
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00:17:54,616 --> 00:17:56,659
At that,
Christophe Waltz
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was not going to waltz
onto Tarantino's set,
498
00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:00,788
not after a disagreement
499
00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:02,999
between a bumblebee and
a horse he was riding
500
00:18:03,166 --> 00:18:04,751
in preparation for his role.
501
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:06,711
{\an8}The horse got stung by a bee,
502
00:18:06,878 --> 00:18:08,087
{\an8}and it threw him off.
503
00:18:08,213 --> 00:18:09,547
{\an8}He fell and broke his hip.
504
00:18:09,672 --> 00:18:11,216
I think he broke his tailbone.
505
00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:13,301
Actually
it was a dislocated bone
506
00:18:13,426 --> 00:18:14,552
in his pelvis.
507
00:18:14,719 --> 00:18:15,762
Not good for Christophe
508
00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,597
and not good for his character.
509
00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:20,642
{\an8}In the screenplay, he's
introduced riding a horse.
510
00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,477
So Christophe
couldn't ride a horse.
511
00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:24,354
I feel vaguely responsible.
512
00:18:24,521 --> 00:18:27,273
And so they had to come
up with a way of riding
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00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,275
that would be somewhat
more comfortable.
514
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,069
Alas.
515
00:18:31,194 --> 00:18:32,570
{\an8}I think it was Quentin
who came up with the idea
516
00:18:32,737 --> 00:18:34,614
{\an8}of the dentist wagon.
517
00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:36,157
So I
guess we can thank
518
00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:37,450
that insect and that horse
519
00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:39,452
for this delightful contraption.
520
00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:40,870
What's everybody's staring at?
521
00:18:40,995 --> 00:18:42,539
Quentin came up with the idea
522
00:18:42,664 --> 00:18:45,208
of the tooth on the spring.
523
00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:46,626
And once anointed--
524
00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:48,461
It is the Quentin
Tarantino version
525
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:49,838
of a Spaghetti Western.
526
00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:52,674
Good morning, innkeeper.
527
00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:53,883
Shooting
could begin on schedule
528
00:18:54,008 --> 00:18:55,426
in November of 2011.
529
00:18:57,512 --> 00:18:59,597
But nothing about dealing
with the theme of slavery
530
00:18:59,722 --> 00:19:01,182
was going to be easy.
531
00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:02,809
What's your name?
532
00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:04,686
Certainly not for the
man at the center of it all.
533
00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:06,354
Django.
534
00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:08,148
I did notice this
was a little, I think,
535
00:19:08,273 --> 00:19:09,315
more challenging for him.
536
00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:11,067
Jamie trying to find the Django.
537
00:19:11,234 --> 00:19:12,235
Point me in that direction.
538
00:19:12,402 --> 00:19:13,403
{\an8}Jamie walked on set,
539
00:19:13,528 --> 00:19:15,155
{\an8}and he's like walking in,
540
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,740
{\an8}you know, he's like in
character as Django.
541
00:19:17,866 --> 00:19:21,786
And Quentin goes, "Jamie,
I need you to come over here."
542
00:19:21,953 --> 00:19:23,246
And he's like, "What
the fuck is that?
543
00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,289
That's Jamie Foxx.
544
00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:25,373
This is not Jamie Foxx.
545
00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:26,875
You're a slave."
546
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,210
You know, and it's like,
fuck, for a white guy
547
00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:30,587
to feel that comfortable,
548
00:19:30,753 --> 00:19:32,255
it has to be 'cause
he's speaking
549
00:19:32,422 --> 00:19:33,339
on behalf of something else,
550
00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:35,341
which is the vision.
551
00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:36,759
And Jamie's fucking great
552
00:19:36,885 --> 00:19:39,304
'cause he's like,
"Oh yeah, right."
553
00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:41,598
Django's
transformation
554
00:19:41,723 --> 00:19:43,349
from a withered slave on the run
555
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:44,851
to a dignified dandy
556
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,312
helped Jamie Foxx
transform himself
557
00:19:47,437 --> 00:19:48,771
into the character.
558
00:19:48,897 --> 00:19:50,899
It's scripted he puts
on a valet costume.
559
00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:52,817
Christoph's character
was giving it to him.
560
00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:54,444
I looked at Quentin and I said,
561
00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:56,654
"Why don't we just make
it more pronounced?"
562
00:19:56,821 --> 00:19:58,198
I showed him "Blue Boy."
563
00:19:58,364 --> 00:19:59,699
That's this "Blue Boy,"
564
00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:02,452
Thomas Gainsborough's
1770 portrait
565
00:20:02,619 --> 00:20:04,454
of an adolescent aristocrat.
566
00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:06,289
So when we did that,
567
00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:07,916
Quentin and Christophe and Jamie
568
00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,876
all decided to
adjust the script,
569
00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:12,670
decide, "Oh, no, he
picked that out himself."
570
00:20:12,796 --> 00:20:14,798
♪ ...along the countryside ♪
571
00:20:14,923 --> 00:20:17,300
Basically he became
a prince in his head.
572
00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:19,469
You mean you wanna
dress like that?
573
00:20:19,594 --> 00:20:22,138
Just as the lead
actor was finding his feet,
574
00:20:22,263 --> 00:20:24,557
another used his to
walk off the project.
575
00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:26,184
Jonah Hill jumped ship
576
00:20:26,309 --> 00:20:27,727
to take the lead in this comedy.
577
00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:28,853
He's actually right.
578
00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:30,480
Pigs have uniforms,
579
00:20:30,605 --> 00:20:32,148
I think we should
have uniforms too.
580
00:20:32,315 --> 00:20:33,817
He was
recast to a smaller roll.
581
00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:35,485
Hey, Marty, bring
any extra bags?
582
00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:36,653
- No.
- Now known
583
00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:38,571
simply as Bag Head,
584
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:42,158
Hill left behind one memorable
scene of the darkest comedy.
585
00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,369
I can't see fucking
shit outta this thing.
586
00:20:44,536 --> 00:20:47,831
Jonah Hill was so
unbelievably funny.
587
00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:50,291
It's actually Jonah and Quentin,
588
00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:52,794
'cause Quentin is the other
dummy underneath the mask.
589
00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:55,547
What about you,
Robert, can you see?
590
00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:56,756
Not too good.
591
00:20:56,923 --> 00:20:58,466
And
what looked like
592
00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,260
the most straightforward
of costumes for Sharon
593
00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:02,387
was instead as
loaded as the guns
594
00:21:02,512 --> 00:21:03,555
the characters carried.
595
00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:07,600
That was a very
challenging costume for me
596
00:21:07,725 --> 00:21:09,686
because Quentin
did not want them
597
00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:11,855
to ever look like the clan.
598
00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:13,440
Wishing
to skate alongside
599
00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:14,983
the historical reality,
600
00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,277
Tarantino again
took his inspiration
601
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,611
from a safe distance.
602
00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:20,488
He gave me some footage
603
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:23,032
of some obscure
Spaghetti Western
604
00:21:23,158 --> 00:21:26,327
that had those kind of masks.
605
00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:27,871
And I couldn't figure out
606
00:21:27,996 --> 00:21:30,248
how to place it on their face
607
00:21:30,373 --> 00:21:31,374
so it wouldn't move
608
00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:32,792
because it had no structure.
609
00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,253
Hold on, I'm fucking
with my eye holes.
610
00:21:35,378 --> 00:21:37,005
- Oh.
- They were never even,
611
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:40,216
and
they looked crazy.
612
00:21:40,383 --> 00:21:42,469
Who made this goddamn shit?
613
00:21:42,594 --> 00:21:45,013
{\an8}I thought, "This
is a fantastic way
614
00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:47,473
{\an8}of dealing with
the Klu Klux Klan,"
615
00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,767
because their whole
thing is they're scary,
616
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,395
but it's like, well,
they're buffoons.
617
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,772
Not pointing any fingers,
618
00:21:54,898 --> 00:21:56,566
they could've been done better.
619
00:21:56,691 --> 00:22:00,487
I thought that was a brilliant
piece of social justice.
620
00:22:00,487 --> 00:22:01,738
There
was no doubt Tarantino
621
00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:03,740
was bringing his
own irreverent take
622
00:22:03,907 --> 00:22:06,367
on dark histories,
623
00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:07,952
but what no one
could tell Tarantino
624
00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:09,829
was whether that tone was right.
625
00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:11,331
After all...
626
00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:12,582
What's the Black
intelligentsia
627
00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:14,334
gonna say about this film?
628
00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:15,418
You mind telling me
what the hell you doing?
629
00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:17,420
He did start like worrying
630
00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:19,297
about appropriateness
631
00:22:19,422 --> 00:22:22,383
{\an8}and the comfort
factor for his actors
632
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,512
in portraying, you
know, such a dark period
633
00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:27,055
of American history.
634
00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:28,973
It's one thing to write
on a piece of paper,
635
00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:31,684
you know, "100 slaves are
marched through the mud
636
00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:33,478
in a slave auction town,
637
00:22:33,645 --> 00:22:35,855
moved along by white men
on horses and with guns,"
638
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:37,440
and it's another thing
639
00:22:37,565 --> 00:22:40,360
to put 100 human
beings in those chains.
640
00:22:40,485 --> 00:22:43,446
So he thought maybe one
way to kind of mitigate this
641
00:22:43,571 --> 00:22:45,907
would be to shoot it
outside of the state.
642
00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:49,327
Almost like culturally
neutral territory in a way.
643
00:22:49,494 --> 00:22:51,037
Tarantino
even sought counsel
644
00:22:51,162 --> 00:22:54,082
from one of the most respected
figures in Black cinema.
645
00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:55,959
You're not in
trouble, are you?
646
00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,919
Celebrated actor
and civil rights activist,
647
00:22:58,044 --> 00:22:59,295
Sidney Poitier.
648
00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:00,547
"You've gotta lean into it.
649
00:23:00,672 --> 00:23:01,673
Don't lean away from it.
650
00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:03,424
This is the film you're making.
651
00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:04,801
You've absolutely got
to face this head on."
652
00:23:04,926 --> 00:23:06,052
Y'all done heard the man.
653
00:23:06,219 --> 00:23:07,762
Get ass up outta that.
654
00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:09,889
So in the end, Tarantino
did exactly that.
655
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,975
He found a historic plantation
656
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:15,562
which still has
like 22 slave huts
657
00:23:15,562 --> 00:23:17,480
and used that as the main base
658
00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,315
of the Candie Land plantation.
659
00:23:19,482 --> 00:23:21,818
But leaning into
his story and its history
660
00:23:21,985 --> 00:23:24,487
meant confronting
America's darkest truths.
661
00:23:24,654 --> 00:23:26,614
We kind of all
learned the history
662
00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:27,907
of this certain plantation,
663
00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:29,659
which was horrible.
664
00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:31,077
And
for his Black cast,
665
00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:32,912
playing in the
sandbox of history
666
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:36,374
involved digging up
the painful past.
667
00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:39,711
That was a tough one,
668
00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:42,338
'cause it's so horrible.
669
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:43,548
Stop.
670
00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:50,763
Framed like
the Spaghetti Westerns
671
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:52,390
that inspired it,
672
00:23:52,557 --> 00:23:54,017
it was easy for
Tarantino's cast and crew
673
00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:55,602
to forget they were working on
674
00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:57,729
his most controversial
project yet.
675
00:23:57,896 --> 00:23:59,564
{\an8}The first part of filming,
676
00:23:59,689 --> 00:24:01,900
{\an8}we were in different
parts of California,
677
00:24:02,025 --> 00:24:03,735
and we were making a Western.
678
00:24:03,902 --> 00:24:04,903
Come out right now with
your hands over your head.
679
00:24:05,028 --> 00:24:06,029
And it was fun.
680
00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:07,113
"Oh, we're making a Western.
681
00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:08,615
They're riding into town."
682
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:09,782
But
"Django Unchained"
683
00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:10,825
wasn't a Western, remember?
684
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,577
It was a Southern.
685
00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:15,663
Meaning it's a Western
set in the South.
686
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,081
The Deep South.
687
00:24:17,248 --> 00:24:19,667
Now we're making
a slave movie.
688
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:20,877
The
production had shifted
689
00:24:21,002 --> 00:24:22,670
to a real plantation.
690
00:24:22,796 --> 00:24:24,672
And the thing
about plantations
691
00:24:24,798 --> 00:24:26,424
is that they're
beautiful physically.
692
00:24:26,591 --> 00:24:28,593
It's all the weeping
willows and all that stuff.
693
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,346
A place
whose beauty belied
its brutal history,
694
00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:32,889
But they're
concentration camps.
695
00:24:33,014 --> 00:24:34,807
Unspeakable horrors
happened there.
696
00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:37,727
So you're constantly
aware of that.
697
00:24:37,852 --> 00:24:41,481
And the whole tone of
the entire cast and crew
698
00:24:41,606 --> 00:24:42,899
just got darker.
699
00:24:43,024 --> 00:24:44,609
As
real as the location
700
00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:46,986
was the language in
Tarantino's script.
701
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,655
What did you say?
702
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:50,406
And one
violently loaded word
703
00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:52,408
and inevitable
point of contention.
704
00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:53,910
The N word.
705
00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:55,703
Get that
nigger outta here.
706
00:24:55,829 --> 00:24:57,122
And in this
script, it was as unavoidable
707
00:24:57,288 --> 00:24:58,957
as it was unutterable.
708
00:24:59,124 --> 00:25:01,125
{\an8}I think it was
counted 110 times.
709
00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:03,169
{\an8}I believe it's
around 116 times.
710
00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:05,797
That was
at least 110 times
711
00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:07,465
too many for one actor.
712
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:08,883
{\an8}I was in his dressing
room where he goes,
713
00:25:09,008 --> 00:25:11,511
{\an8}"I really don't
wanna say it anymore.
714
00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:13,471
I can't, I don't want
to say..."
715
00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:16,057
I could see he just was
really not into doing it.
716
00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:17,976
- Why?
- Because I said so,
717
00:25:18,101 --> 00:25:19,727
that's why.
718
00:25:19,853 --> 00:25:21,646
{\an8}'Cause how uncomfortable
is it to play that guy?
719
00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:22,772
What's your name, boy?
720
00:25:22,897 --> 00:25:24,566
It was really painful to him.
721
00:25:24,691 --> 00:25:25,733
You're in trouble now, son.
722
00:25:25,859 --> 00:25:27,485
Yes, sir.
723
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:28,653
In the
end, there was really
724
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,488
only one person on set
725
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:32,824
able to help by lending
some perspective,
726
00:25:32,991 --> 00:25:34,492
and it wasn't Tarantino.
727
00:25:34,659 --> 00:25:36,536
My understanding
was that Sam said,
728
00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:39,164
"Hey, man, this is
just Tuesday for us."
729
00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:41,207
It would appear
that Broomhilda
730
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:44,586
is in fact the right nigga.
731
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,671
I give him the utmost
respect for doing so.
732
00:25:46,796 --> 00:25:49,132
- This nigga here?
- That nigga there.
733
00:25:49,257 --> 00:25:51,634
Because it's so not him.
734
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:53,678
Now, gentlemen,
I do apologize.
735
00:25:53,845 --> 00:25:55,096
While
Leonardo DiCaprio
736
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,182
was challenged by a single word,
737
00:25:57,307 --> 00:25:59,184
Kerry Washington
embraced the challenge
738
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,102
few would have the
courage to confront.
739
00:26:02,979 --> 00:26:04,689
{\an8}She didn't have a body double.
740
00:26:04,814 --> 00:26:06,191
{\an8}I remember her going
through everything herself.
741
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:09,110
She had
committed to the method
742
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:10,820
for her performance
743
00:26:10,945 --> 00:26:12,697
as the victimized wife
of Django, Broomhilda.
744
00:26:12,822 --> 00:26:14,115
She's a serious actor.
745
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,034
But it makes sense, right?
746
00:26:16,201 --> 00:26:18,745
I mean, her character is so
emotionally loaded in that film.
747
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:20,121
If you're gonna
have a body double
748
00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,040
for all the emotional
heavy parts,
749
00:26:22,165 --> 00:26:24,042
I mean, there's gonna be
something missing, right?
750
00:26:24,167 --> 00:26:25,794
But
method acting this role
751
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,629
involved embracing the trauma
752
00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:29,798
at the very center of the story.
753
00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:31,216
And it wasn't only emotional.
754
00:26:33,051 --> 00:26:34,511
The hot box scene, man,
755
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,763
that was a tough one.
756
00:26:36,888 --> 00:26:39,057
It's so horrible.
757
00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:40,642
It was one of those things
758
00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:42,685
that were just a
little too realistic.
759
00:26:44,687 --> 00:26:45,980
And she seemed pretty okay
when we left the dressing room.
760
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:50,026
But I know it was really
a struggle for her.
761
00:26:50,151 --> 00:26:51,152
More
than a struggle,
762
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:52,654
her role would become an ordeal
763
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,239
when she refused a stand in
764
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:56,157
or stunt woman for this scene.
765
00:26:57,992 --> 00:26:59,953
When it came time
to shoot that scene,
766
00:26:59,953 --> 00:27:02,288
Kerry's performance
was so powerful.
767
00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:04,791
All of us were
just being crushed.
768
00:27:04,916 --> 00:27:06,626
I was horrified.
769
00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,670
The stunt
whip was made of nylon
770
00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:10,171
to limit physical injury,
771
00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:12,006
but it still hurt significantly.
772
00:27:14,717 --> 00:27:18,096
Everyone was being
pushed to their limits.
773
00:27:18,221 --> 00:27:19,722
And I remember Quentin,
774
00:27:19,848 --> 00:27:21,850
his eye was at the
viewfinder shooting,
775
00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:23,768
and then he lifted his eye up
776
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,144
and he was weeping.
777
00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:28,773
Unfortunately,
this cast member's character
778
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:30,150
never got a spotlight.
779
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:31,609
Just a swift chop.
780
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:33,695
Tracker Peg has
a whole history.
781
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:35,655
My bottom jaw has
been ripped off.
782
00:27:35,655 --> 00:27:38,783
Zoe's character,
Tracker Peg, was cut down.
783
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:40,952
There was this whole
fight scene we'd set up.
784
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,954
There'd be this
amazing ax fight.
785
00:27:43,621 --> 00:27:46,040
Tarantino of
course had proven his form
786
00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:47,584
when it came to
artfully dispatching
787
00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:50,044
an odd ax or two.
788
00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:51,921
My scarf was meant to unravel
789
00:27:52,046 --> 00:27:53,798
and you're meant to see that
half of my jaw is missing.
790
00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:57,135
It was just a brilliant
classic Quentin Tarantino
791
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:58,636
big fight scene.
792
00:27:58,803 --> 00:27:59,762
Or
it would've been,
793
00:27:59,929 --> 00:28:01,806
the scene was reduced to this.
794
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:05,894
One shot of Django just
shooting everybody in there.
795
00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:07,312
We got to that
part of production,
796
00:28:07,437 --> 00:28:08,730
he was like,
"We can't have
797
00:28:08,855 --> 00:28:10,273
a big fight scene that late."
798
00:28:10,398 --> 00:28:11,900
Because...
799
00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:13,109
Quentin knew the
movie was just too long.
800
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:14,986
We had too much movie.
801
00:28:15,111 --> 00:28:16,988
And while some
action and bloodletting
802
00:28:17,113 --> 00:28:18,823
was jettisoned,
803
00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:21,618
spirited performances made
sure there would be blood,
804
00:28:21,743 --> 00:28:22,744
real blood.
805
00:28:22,869 --> 00:28:24,329
In the midst of the take,
806
00:28:24,454 --> 00:28:27,749
{\an8}Leo had slammed his
hand down on the table...
807
00:28:27,957 --> 00:28:30,168
Now lay your palms
flat on that tabletop.
808
00:28:30,335 --> 00:28:33,171
...had cut himself
on a wine glass.
809
00:28:33,338 --> 00:28:35,757
The blood is
forming on his hand.
810
00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:37,967
It was not scripted like that.
811
00:28:38,092 --> 00:28:40,970
Broomhilda here
is my property.
812
00:28:41,095 --> 00:28:42,764
Did not stop his performance,
813
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:44,390
kept going all the way through.
814
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:47,977
I can choose to
do with my property
815
00:28:48,102 --> 00:28:49,646
whatever I so desire.
816
00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,189
Tarantino
liked what he saw.
817
00:28:51,314 --> 00:28:52,315
However...
818
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,025
No one was 100% certain
819
00:28:54,192 --> 00:28:56,069
that it was going
to really play.
820
00:28:56,069 --> 00:28:58,154
Because if we go with
the bloody hand take,
821
00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:59,697
all the coverage afterwards
822
00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:02,200
has to account for
the bloody hand
823
00:29:02,325 --> 00:29:04,369
or a bandage around
his hand afterwards.
824
00:29:04,536 --> 00:29:07,914
So producers elected to
shoot a bloodless backup.
825
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,415
So from that point on,
826
00:29:09,541 --> 00:29:13,753
they shot the movie
two different ways.
827
00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:16,047
One with his hand bleeding
and then bandaged-
828
00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:17,757
One more moment, Doctor.
829
00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,718
and then one without
any of the blood.
830
00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:22,679
But there
was no equivocating
831
00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:25,098
about the amount of blood in
the film's crucial crescendo.
832
00:29:25,098 --> 00:29:26,766
A bloodbath scene.
833
00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:28,685
Whatever
they were shooting now,
834
00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:31,354
it was what was already in
the can that mattered next.
835
00:29:31,479 --> 00:29:33,982
Because the first
audience to watch it
836
00:29:34,107 --> 00:29:35,733
was the head of the studio.
837
00:29:35,859 --> 00:29:37,694
And he has concerns.
838
00:29:43,199 --> 00:29:45,034
Quentin
Tarantino was rewriting
839
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,995
the third act of
"Django Unchained"
840
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,663
to make sure it went
out with a bang.
841
00:29:49,789 --> 00:29:52,250
One as big as it was bloody.
842
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,918
{\an8}Because it had to top
843
00:29:54,085 --> 00:29:57,297
{\an8}what was a very poignant
storytelling moment
844
00:29:57,463 --> 00:29:59,215
closer to the middle.
845
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,301
That was this
scene with Walton Goggins
846
00:30:01,301 --> 00:30:03,178
as a sadistic slave handler-
847
00:30:03,303 --> 00:30:04,846
Cock-a-doodle-doo.
848
00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:06,222
which
was not only poignant,
849
00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:07,849
but unpleasantly pointy.
850
00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:10,852
He's playing
with his genitals.
851
00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,353
Time to say
goodnight to them nuts.
852
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:14,981
{\an8}He's going to torture
him before he kills him.
853
00:30:16,524 --> 00:30:18,193
I got you.
854
00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:19,861
Just one
reason "Django Unchained"
855
00:30:19,986 --> 00:30:22,447
has never been adapted
into a Broadway musical.
856
00:30:22,572 --> 00:30:25,366
But editor Fred Raskin had
another fire to put out
857
00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:27,118
when he received a heads-up.
858
00:30:27,285 --> 00:30:28,828
{\an8}"Harvey's gonna come
into the cutting room.
859
00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:31,706
{\an8}Quentin has
basically given his okay
860
00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:33,917
for you to show him
whatever he wants to see."
861
00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:35,835
Harvey
Weinstein was getting nervous
862
00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:37,962
about the film's subject matter,
863
00:30:38,087 --> 00:30:39,881
and what was potentially
864
00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:42,383
the most controversial Tarantino
property he had produced.
865
00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:45,845
Fred knew exactly the
scene to showcase-
866
00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:47,847
Everybody calm down.
867
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:50,099
the classically
Tarantino-esque blend
868
00:30:50,225 --> 00:30:51,935
of tension and bloody action.
869
00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:55,939
I played the first scene
of the movie for Harvey.
870
00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:57,232
Last chance, fancy pants.
871
00:30:57,357 --> 00:30:59,442
It comes to an end
872
00:30:59,567 --> 00:31:01,027
and I bring up the lights.
873
00:31:01,194 --> 00:31:02,821
So then I turn around,
874
00:31:02,946 --> 00:31:05,240
and I just go, "And that
is how you open a movie."
875
00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:07,784
- No doubt.
- Well, Harvey just laughed
876
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:09,202
and he was like, "Keep playing."
877
00:31:11,037 --> 00:31:12,831
With Harvey's
approval of the edit,
878
00:31:12,956 --> 00:31:15,792
Tarantino could shoot his
reimagined final scene,
879
00:31:15,959 --> 00:31:18,378
instead of Django
exacting his easy revenge
880
00:31:18,378 --> 00:31:19,754
at Candie's funeral,
881
00:31:19,879 --> 00:31:21,089
Tarantino wanted...
882
00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:22,423
A bloodbath scene.
883
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:23,883
I couldn't resist.
884
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:26,344
And he moved it
into the house.
885
00:31:26,511 --> 00:31:29,472
An orgiastic
dispensing of summary justice,
886
00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:32,851
Django's ultimate
revenge on his enslavers.
887
00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:36,312
A gunfight so big
that, once again,
888
00:31:36,438 --> 00:31:39,941
Tarantino's longtime
special effects pals, KNB,
889
00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:42,235
would be called upon to
keep the blood pumping.
890
00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:45,488
{\an8}He changed the whole
ending like out of the blue.
891
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,741
It's like, "It's
not a lot of stuff."
892
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,118
And it turned out
to be tons of stuff.
893
00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:52,412
And not only that,
894
00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:54,038
Tarantino had to
call on his crew
895
00:31:54,164 --> 00:31:55,915
to make up the numbers.
896
00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:57,792
Quentin comes to set,
897
00:31:57,917 --> 00:31:59,252
{\an8}and he said, "Oh yeah, and
then we're gonna shoot this
898
00:31:59,377 --> 00:32:00,962
{\an8}and then we're gonna
shoot Dieter the Kid."
899
00:32:01,087 --> 00:32:03,131
Dieter the Kid was not
a character in the film.
900
00:32:03,256 --> 00:32:04,799
It was Tarantino's nickname
901
00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:06,509
for his trusty
production assistant
902
00:32:06,676 --> 00:32:09,220
who was about to become
a character in the film,
903
00:32:09,345 --> 00:32:10,513
albeit briefly.
904
00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:13,266
John McLeod--
905
00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:15,185
That's special
effects supervisor, John McLeod.
906
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:16,436
And he's like, "Oh,
so we're gonna put on
907
00:32:16,436 --> 00:32:18,438
a leather plate under your chest
908
00:32:18,563 --> 00:32:19,939
and put the squib on top."
909
00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:21,024
I'm like, "Ah, I
don't need that."
910
00:32:21,191 --> 00:32:22,567
And he's like, "Okay, well."
911
00:32:22,692 --> 00:32:24,319
I mean, the squibs
could be like this big.
912
00:32:26,196 --> 00:32:27,322
Squibs being
the explosive blood bags
913
00:32:27,447 --> 00:32:29,407
that do this when triggered.
914
00:32:29,574 --> 00:32:31,785
I was so nervous,
I just flew backwards
915
00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:33,995
without it going off,
and then it went off
916
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,580
while I was flying backwards.
917
00:32:35,747 --> 00:32:38,208
It felt like a horse giving
you a kick in the chest.
918
00:32:40,126 --> 00:32:41,878
I was like, okay, I
went up to him like,
919
00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:43,379
"Hey, John, can I get that
leather plate?"
920
00:32:45,089 --> 00:32:46,049
I don't know how
actors do it, man.
921
00:32:46,174 --> 00:32:47,133
You gotta have it in your blood.
922
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,510
So to speak.
923
00:32:48,635 --> 00:32:50,553
This bloodbath
certainly satisfied
924
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,014
Reggie's golden
ratio of two to one
925
00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:55,934
when it came to Black
vengeance over white crimes.
926
00:32:57,477 --> 00:33:00,355
And besides, this was
a Tarantino signature...
927
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,524
- Oh.
- ...written in blood, of course.
928
00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:05,151
Not you, Steven.
929
00:33:05,151 --> 00:33:06,903
You right where you belong.
930
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:08,488
Following the
massacre at Candie Land,
931
00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:10,615
there was just one
thing left to do.
932
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:12,283
Blowing up Candie Land.
933
00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:13,409
That is
to say their sudden
934
00:33:13,535 --> 00:33:14,994
cataclysmic disassembly
935
00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:18,164
of this carefully
constructed facade.
936
00:33:18,331 --> 00:33:19,582
Okay, three, two, one.
937
00:33:22,502 --> 00:33:24,295
And it
was gone.
938
00:33:24,462 --> 00:33:26,131
And with that,
939
00:33:26,256 --> 00:33:28,299
"Django Unchained" wrapped
principal photography.
940
00:33:28,424 --> 00:33:30,301
The Western that was
really a Southern
941
00:33:30,426 --> 00:33:31,636
was finally in the can.
942
00:33:31,803 --> 00:33:33,471
And not a moment too soon.
943
00:33:33,596 --> 00:33:35,640
{\an8}Quentin said, "I can't
do this anymore."
944
00:33:35,765 --> 00:33:37,350
"Let's go back to LA."
945
00:33:37,517 --> 00:33:39,894
But the can
was overflowing with film.
946
00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:42,272
Even with whole action
sequences dumped,
947
00:33:42,397 --> 00:33:43,940
the assembly cut...
948
00:33:44,065 --> 00:33:45,859
Believe ran four hours
and 27 minutes long.
949
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,402
It was long.
950
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:49,112
We had too much movie.
951
00:33:49,237 --> 00:33:51,322
Initially
choosing what storylines
952
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:52,365
would stay was simple.
953
00:33:52,532 --> 00:33:54,284
If it bleeds, it leads.
954
00:33:54,701 --> 00:33:56,369
Like Leonardo.
955
00:33:56,494 --> 00:33:58,288
It was clear to everyone
upon watching it the first time
956
00:33:58,454 --> 00:34:00,039
that the blood was the
way we were gonna go.
957
00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:01,249
It was a pleasure doing
business with y'all.
958
00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:02,500
And that was that.
959
00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:04,002
Getting
the comedy right
960
00:34:04,127 --> 00:34:05,128
would prove more tricky.
961
00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:06,546
The bags-on-their-head scene--
962
00:34:06,546 --> 00:34:08,047
Do we have to wear
'em when we ride?
963
00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:09,465
We screened that a few times
964
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:11,551
for people that were
just visiting us
965
00:34:11,551 --> 00:34:12,635
in the editing room.
966
00:34:12,802 --> 00:34:14,471
Make your own goddamn masks.
967
00:34:14,596 --> 00:34:16,014
Every time we played it back,
968
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:17,599
it barely got laughs.
969
00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,476
I could've cut it
better than this.
970
00:34:19,642 --> 00:34:21,102
And Quentin said,
971
00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:22,478
"I wanna take that
scene out of the movie."
972
00:34:22,604 --> 00:34:25,148
Next time, we
do the bags right.
973
00:34:25,273 --> 00:34:26,941
And we may
never have seen this
974
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:28,526
were it not for one audience.
975
00:34:28,651 --> 00:34:30,278
I didn't say no bags.
976
00:34:30,403 --> 00:34:31,404
The test audience,
977
00:34:31,404 --> 00:34:33,323
which included the man himself.
978
00:34:33,448 --> 00:34:35,617
Quentin sits in the
middle of the audience.
979
00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:37,076
When you sit there
980
00:34:37,202 --> 00:34:38,953
and you just have
your antenna out
981
00:34:39,078 --> 00:34:40,705
and you're feeling the room.
982
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:42,415
Are they enjoying it?
983
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:44,167
Are they laughing at things?
Are they not?
984
00:34:44,334 --> 00:34:45,335
Okay, I'm confused.
985
00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:47,003
Are the bags on or off?
986
00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:49,047
They laughed uproariously.
987
00:34:49,214 --> 00:34:50,256
You could barely
hear the dialogue
988
00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:51,549
they were laughing so loud.
989
00:34:51,716 --> 00:34:53,259
And all I can
hear is criticize,
990
00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:54,719
- criticize, criticize.
- And so we knew,
991
00:34:54,844 --> 00:34:56,346
"Okay, this scene is
staying."
992
00:34:58,139 --> 00:34:59,182
Even
trickier was working out
993
00:34:59,307 --> 00:35:00,642
how much the film should bleed.
994
00:35:00,767 --> 00:35:02,101
Turn him around now.
995
00:35:02,227 --> 00:35:04,062
We discovered
the Mandingo fight
996
00:35:04,229 --> 00:35:06,022
was pretty traumatizing
for the audience.
997
00:35:07,732 --> 00:35:09,192
And before they've had
a chance to recover,
998
00:35:09,317 --> 00:35:11,945
they watch a guy
get eaten by dogs.
999
00:35:13,738 --> 00:35:15,406
Tarantino's
take on treading a fine line
1000
00:35:15,573 --> 00:35:17,117
was so Tarantino
1001
00:35:17,242 --> 00:35:19,494
it might've been a scene
in one of his films.
1002
00:35:19,994 --> 00:35:21,746
Quentin had a phrase
where it was like,
1003
00:35:21,871 --> 00:35:23,540
"I cut their heads off,
1004
00:35:23,665 --> 00:35:26,292
but then their heads grow back.
1005
00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:27,418
If their heads don't grow back,
1006
00:35:27,544 --> 00:35:28,711
then I've lost them."
1007
00:35:28,837 --> 00:35:31,673
And you wanna cut
their heads off,
1008
00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:33,091
but give them a
chance for recovery.
1009
00:35:34,342 --> 00:35:36,636
Aw.
1010
00:35:36,636 --> 00:35:39,347
We softened both of
those scenes just enough.
1011
00:35:39,472 --> 00:35:41,391
Would you please shut
these goddamn dogs up?
1012
00:35:41,558 --> 00:35:43,184
I cannot hear myself think.
1013
00:35:43,309 --> 00:35:44,769
You still hated Calvin Candie,
1014
00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:47,564
but you also were not so
traumatizing the audience
1015
00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:49,524
that they couldn't
actually enjoy the movie.
1016
00:35:49,649 --> 00:35:51,568
But an
unsuspecting test audience
1017
00:35:51,734 --> 00:35:54,404
was never going to be
Django's toughest crowd.
1018
00:35:54,571 --> 00:35:57,657
{\an8}My memory is,
after the screening,
1019
00:35:57,657 --> 00:36:00,618
{\an8}there was heated conversations,
1020
00:36:00,743 --> 00:36:04,247
and I'm pretty sure it
had to do with the N word.
1021
00:36:04,372 --> 00:36:06,332
Initial unease
about a white director
1022
00:36:06,332 --> 00:36:08,501
running roughshod
over Black history
1023
00:36:08,668 --> 00:36:10,295
now seemed warranted.
1024
00:36:10,461 --> 00:36:12,088
It's against
the law for niggas
1025
00:36:12,213 --> 00:36:13,715
to ride horses in
this territory.
1026
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,009
And there was like a,
"Maybe we need to pull back
1027
00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:17,469
on not just the N word,"
1028
00:36:17,594 --> 00:36:19,554
but effectively that
became the symbol
1029
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,389
of what they were talking about.
1030
00:36:21,514 --> 00:36:23,433
Sons of bitches.
1031
00:36:23,558 --> 00:36:25,310
Tarantino
understood the concerns,
1032
00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:27,061
but refused to compromise.
1033
00:36:27,187 --> 00:36:28,354
And I'm not trying
to speak for him,
1034
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,814
but if it makes
you uncomfortable,
1035
00:36:29,981 --> 00:36:32,275
there's a reason it
makes you uncomfortable,
1036
00:36:32,442 --> 00:36:34,777
and you should
feel uncomfortable.
1037
00:36:34,903 --> 00:36:37,280
Unsurprisingly,
critics begged to differ,
1038
00:36:37,405 --> 00:36:40,492
including some of Black
America's most respected voices.
1039
00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:42,744
He doesn't really like
the way he used the N word.
1040
00:36:42,869 --> 00:36:45,789
I wish to purchase
one of your nigga gals.
1041
00:36:45,914 --> 00:36:47,665
The report on the internet
1042
00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:49,501
{\an8}is that it is the movie
1043
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,462
{\an8}that has the most uses of
the word in film history.
1044
00:36:53,671 --> 00:36:54,756
Spike
Lee was outspoken
1045
00:36:54,881 --> 00:36:56,549
in his criticism of the film.
1046
00:36:56,549 --> 00:36:58,092
He refused to watch.
1047
00:36:58,218 --> 00:37:00,220
It would be disrespectful
to my ancestors.
1048
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:02,847
He felt that this
movie did disservice
1049
00:37:02,972 --> 00:37:06,726
and that it was a caricature
of his ancestors' experience.
1050
00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:08,186
The American slave experience
1051
00:37:08,353 --> 00:37:09,562
was not a Sergio
Spaghetti Western.
1052
00:37:09,687 --> 00:37:11,648
Why y'all wanna
come into my town
1053
00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:13,149
and start trouble?
1054
00:37:13,316 --> 00:37:14,734
Sam L. Jackson
defended Tarantino,
1055
00:37:14,859 --> 00:37:16,402
saying he's not a
racist director.
1056
00:37:16,528 --> 00:37:18,321
Oh, come on, I ain't
got no problem with it.
1057
00:37:18,488 --> 00:37:20,824
That he's speaking in the
language of the characters.
1058
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:22,492
That's how they would talk.
1059
00:37:22,617 --> 00:37:23,660
Now, what you got
to say about that?
1060
00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:25,245
I'm not seeing it.
1061
00:37:25,245 --> 00:37:26,704
He may have been
1062
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:27,831
one of the hottest
directors in Hollywood,
1063
00:37:27,956 --> 00:37:29,582
but on the eve of its release,
1064
00:37:29,582 --> 00:37:32,210
the studio executives
were getting cold feet
1065
00:37:32,335 --> 00:37:35,130
about Quentin Tarantino's
most controversial film.
1066
00:37:35,255 --> 00:37:37,382
There was some upset people,
1067
00:37:37,507 --> 00:37:39,300
and Quentin included.
1068
00:37:39,425 --> 00:37:41,177
He wasn't feeling supported,
1069
00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:43,304
and the people he wasn't
feeling supported by
1070
00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:45,598
were probably just
feeling fucking terrified.
1071
00:37:51,438 --> 00:37:52,897
"Django
Unchained" was released
1072
00:37:53,022 --> 00:37:54,649
in December of 2012.
1073
00:37:54,774 --> 00:37:56,568
♪ Django ♪
1074
00:37:56,693 --> 00:37:59,571
And it was "Django
Unchanged" for Tarantino.
1075
00:37:59,737 --> 00:38:01,531
{\an8}If you know you're
coming from the place
1076
00:38:01,656 --> 00:38:03,366
{\an8}you're coming from,
1077
00:38:03,491 --> 00:38:05,452
you have to believe it and
you have to fight for it.
1078
00:38:05,618 --> 00:38:07,620
They're a little
tense out there.
1079
00:38:07,745 --> 00:38:09,414
Whatever
Tarantino was saying...
1080
00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:10,874
I count two guns, nigga.
1081
00:38:10,999 --> 00:38:12,542
...and however
he was saying it,
1082
00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:14,127
audiences wanted to hear it.
1083
00:38:14,127 --> 00:38:15,753
All you Black folks,
1084
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,339
I suggest you get away
from all these white folks.
1085
00:38:18,465 --> 00:38:21,634
This spoke to a deep-seated
need in Black viewers,
1086
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,596
and they finally got to see
what they really wanted to see.
1087
00:38:24,721 --> 00:38:27,432
You know, we were right.
1088
00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:31,352
The Spaghetti
Western-inspired Southern
1089
00:38:31,478 --> 00:38:34,606
raked in over $425 million
1090
00:38:34,731 --> 00:38:36,649
from its $100 million budget.
1091
00:38:36,775 --> 00:38:37,859
{\an8}This phase of
Tarantino's career
1092
00:38:37,984 --> 00:38:39,319
{\an8}is like each movie is like,
1093
00:38:39,444 --> 00:38:40,862
oh, it's bigger
than the last one.
1094
00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:42,655
So "Inglorious Bastards,"
his biggest ever.
1095
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:44,824
- No longer, no.
- Nein, nein, nein.
1096
00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:47,327
This was
Tarantino's biggest hit yet.
1097
00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:49,704
Everyone
fucking loved that movie.
1098
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:51,498
That's accurate.
1099
00:38:51,623 --> 00:38:53,583
With "Django"
so warmly received,
1100
00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:56,503
two years later, Tarantino
saddled up once more
1101
00:38:56,669 --> 00:38:57,921
for "The Hateful Eight."
1102
00:38:58,046 --> 00:38:59,464
Well, I'll be
double-dog-damned.
1103
00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:01,341
"The
Hateful Eight."
1104
00:39:01,466 --> 00:39:03,510
Tarantino
reprised a dream team
1105
00:39:03,635 --> 00:39:05,261
of his own acting alumni,
1106
00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:07,347
and gave one favorite
a leading role,
1107
00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:08,973
some said was overdue.
1108
00:39:09,098 --> 00:39:10,725
Got room for one more?
1109
00:39:10,850 --> 00:39:13,728
I liked that Sam
got to finally star
1110
00:39:13,853 --> 00:39:15,647
in a Quentin Tarantino
in "Hateful Eight."
1111
00:39:15,814 --> 00:39:16,898
That gets me.
1112
00:39:17,106 --> 00:39:17,941
{\an8}I think it is a profound
1113
00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:19,484
{\an8}collaboration in cinema history,
1114
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:20,652
{\an8}I really do.
1115
00:39:20,819 --> 00:39:22,195
It gets me too.
1116
00:39:22,779 --> 00:39:25,365
But another of
Tarantino's collaborations...
1117
00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:27,659
I want to thank
Harvey Weinstein.
1118
00:39:27,826 --> 00:39:29,369
would
not end so well.
1119
00:39:29,536 --> 00:39:31,371
Harvey was just a pig.
1120
00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:33,623
Three days after
multiple sexual abuse charges
1121
00:39:33,748 --> 00:39:35,708
{\an8}against the producer
became public,
1122
00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:37,961
{\an8}Harvey Weinstein was
fired from the company
1123
00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:39,671
{\an8}that bore his name.
1124
00:39:39,796 --> 00:39:40,839
{\an8}Quentin knew about
it, I knew about it.
1125
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:42,423
Most people did know,
1126
00:39:42,549 --> 00:39:43,716
but nobody was
gonna say fuck all,
1127
00:39:43,842 --> 00:39:45,468
because you just
wouldn't do that,
1128
00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:46,970
'cause he's Harvey
Weinstein for Christ's sake.
1129
00:39:47,095 --> 00:39:49,597
He was the most powerful
guy in the industry.
1130
00:39:49,722 --> 00:39:51,349
Everybody was scared
shitless of him.
1131
00:39:51,516 --> 00:39:54,561
{\an8}He definitely wreaked
havoc in a lot of our lives.
1132
00:39:54,727 --> 00:39:57,397
His outing
sparked a global reckoning.
1133
00:39:57,522 --> 00:39:58,940
This happened
to a lot of women.
1134
00:39:59,065 --> 00:40:00,942
And the
ground zero of the scandal
1135
00:40:01,067 --> 00:40:03,820
proved to be right at the
heart of Tarantino's world,
1136
00:40:03,945 --> 00:40:07,991
from Mira Sorvino, Salma
Hayek, to Rosanna Arquette...
1137
00:40:08,116 --> 00:40:09,576
My heart was racing,
1138
00:40:09,701 --> 00:40:10,994
as soon as, it was
like, "Danger, danger."
1139
00:40:11,161 --> 00:40:12,787
to Daryl Hannah.
1140
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:14,372
She goes, "I'm in the bathroom.
I got the door closed,
1141
00:40:14,497 --> 00:40:15,665
and he's out there
and he won't leave."
1142
00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:17,417
And
at the epicenter,
1143
00:40:17,542 --> 00:40:19,836
his own muse, Uma Thurman.
1144
00:40:20,003 --> 00:40:21,838
Many of Weinstein's victims
1145
00:40:21,963 --> 00:40:24,841
were actresses who had helped
make Tarantino who he was.
1146
00:40:24,966 --> 00:40:27,594
And yet the price paid
for some survivors,
1147
00:40:27,594 --> 00:40:30,013
like Rose McGowan,
was their careers.
1148
00:40:30,138 --> 00:40:33,558
I think that the fact that
we've got a man this powerful
1149
00:40:33,683 --> 00:40:35,602
to see Lady Justice
staring him down,
1150
00:40:35,727 --> 00:40:38,396
it feels like a
huge win already.
1151
00:40:38,521 --> 00:40:40,648
Weinstein
was jailed in 2023
1152
00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:42,442
for rape and sexual assault.
1153
00:40:42,609 --> 00:40:43,943
He's lost his career.
1154
00:40:44,110 --> 00:40:45,778
He's a very sick man.
1155
00:40:45,778 --> 00:40:47,614
Tarantino
severed ties with the man
1156
00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:49,616
who had helped make him a star.
1157
00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:50,700
Very understandably,
1158
00:40:50,867 --> 00:40:52,869
and necessarily parted ways.
1159
00:40:52,994 --> 00:40:55,038
That's a great idea, Kato.
1160
00:40:55,163 --> 00:40:57,791
His next film,
"Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,"
1161
00:40:57,791 --> 00:40:59,834
would be his first
without Weinstein
1162
00:40:59,959 --> 00:41:02,587
and would serve as an
autobiographical epic
1163
00:41:02,712 --> 00:41:04,964
tying together his
cinematic universe.
1164
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:06,424
And cut.
1165
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:09,552
{\an8}Quentin Tarantino,
who's made a career
1166
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,555
{\an8}out of stealing
from everybody else-
1167
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,474
You got a problem with that?
1168
00:41:14,474 --> 00:41:17,811
this piece actually takes
everything from his own movies.
1169
00:41:17,811 --> 00:41:19,771
We got the Western,
1170
00:41:19,896 --> 00:41:22,315
we got the "Django" and "The
Hateful Eight" with the Lancer.
1171
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,942
Nobody likes
Spaghetti Westerns.
1172
00:41:24,108 --> 00:41:26,444
The car
from "Reservoir Dogs."
1173
00:41:26,569 --> 00:41:27,904
How are those pickles?
1174
00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:30,698
There's a piece of him
from all of his movies
1175
00:41:30,824 --> 00:41:32,534
in "Once Upon a
Time in Hollywood."
1176
00:41:32,659 --> 00:41:34,494
Could you roll me
one of those, cowboy?
1177
00:41:34,661 --> 00:41:36,329
Now, I smoke red apples.
1178
00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:38,957
A sort of
highlights reel of Tarantino
1179
00:41:39,082 --> 00:41:41,835
sounded like a recipe for
success at the cinema.
1180
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,545
What a picture.
1181
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:46,381
And was, to
the tune of $390 million
1182
00:41:46,506 --> 00:41:47,799
from a budget of 90 million.
1183
00:41:47,966 --> 00:41:49,134
Not bad, Kato.
1184
00:41:49,843 --> 00:41:52,053
His
second-biggest hit,
1185
00:41:52,178 --> 00:41:54,973
it brought Tarantino's total
box office over nine films
1186
00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:58,935
to over $1.9 billion.
1187
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:01,604
But this is not really
a story about money.
1188
00:42:01,771 --> 00:42:03,731
It's the little differences.
1189
00:42:03,857 --> 00:42:05,859
It's the
as-yet-unfinished tale
1190
00:42:05,859 --> 00:42:08,486
of a postmodern American auteur.
1191
00:42:08,653 --> 00:42:11,906
{\an8}Quentin's got a pulse
right on the emotional nerve
1192
00:42:12,031 --> 00:42:13,616
of the audience.
1193
00:42:13,741 --> 00:42:14,951
A bold
young filmmaker
1194
00:42:15,076 --> 00:42:16,744
who found his feet as a director
1195
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:18,454
and never stopped.
1196
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:20,456
Quentin's done
an amazing job of,
1197
00:42:20,623 --> 00:42:22,041
I was gonna
say walking the line,
1198
00:42:22,167 --> 00:42:24,127
but also just being
like, "Fuck the line.
1199
00:42:24,252 --> 00:42:26,421
I'm just gonna put
my shit out there,
1200
00:42:26,546 --> 00:42:28,131
knowing that I love humans,
1201
00:42:28,256 --> 00:42:29,549
I'm fascinated by humans,
1202
00:42:29,549 --> 00:42:30,800
I love history, I love film."
1203
00:42:30,925 --> 00:42:32,135
He loves all of these things.
1204
00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:33,511
And then if people
take offense,
1205
00:42:33,678 --> 00:42:34,804
they can take offense.
1206
00:42:34,971 --> 00:42:37,557
That's life in
the Tarantino-verse.
1207
00:42:37,724 --> 00:42:38,892
I'm sure you'll like it.
1208
00:42:39,058 --> 00:42:41,811
Yeah, I like it
a lot, smartass.
1209
00:42:41,978 --> 00:42:44,898
The former video
store clerk, movie junkie,
1210
00:42:45,064 --> 00:42:47,108
turned writer, director
and occasionally actor...
1211
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,152
What the fuck was
I talking about?
1212
00:42:49,277 --> 00:42:52,489
...somehow created
his own movie language.
1213
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,620
That's the difference from
Quentin Tarantino pictures
1214
00:42:58,745 --> 00:43:01,706
to any picture that anybody
else might do anywhere.
1215
00:43:01,873 --> 00:43:03,875
The very best there is.
1216
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,503
And like all
risk-taking rule breakers,
1217
00:43:06,628 --> 00:43:08,004
he changed the game.
1218
00:43:08,171 --> 00:43:10,882
{\an8}He changed the way
things went in Hollywood.
1219
00:43:11,007 --> 00:43:12,217
The rules are different,
1220
00:43:12,342 --> 00:43:13,885
the game is unique,
1221
00:43:14,052 --> 00:43:16,679
and everybody wants
to be a part of it.
1222
00:43:16,846 --> 00:43:19,599
His often-quoted
aim to make just 10 movies
1223
00:43:19,766 --> 00:43:21,184
means one thing.
1224
00:43:21,351 --> 00:43:22,602
He's got one left.
1225
00:43:22,769 --> 00:43:24,103
I'm sure he'll make it.
1226
00:43:24,229 --> 00:43:25,855
You have not heard
the last of his voice.
1227
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:27,440
He's too great a filmmaker
1228
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,901
to stop giving us
incredible movies.
1229
00:43:30,068 --> 00:43:30,985
So thank you, Quentin.
90333
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