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- I never imagined that anyone in my family

would be labeled a serial killer.

- She's been living on that farm for 13 years.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were others.

- I said, my son is dead.

My son is dead, isn't he?

- It was jarring seeing that quantity of blood everywhere.

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- Always kept notes.

If I thought they were evil, I put evil.

- She used her sex to lure men in.

It's arousing, it's intoxicating, it's powerful.

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- The only way of dealing with her rage

was to seek revenge.

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- Losing Kenny the way I lost him is unbearable.

If you lose your child through a sickness, a car accident,

you know, that's tragic, but the way I lost Kenny?

No.

- I was the chief secretary.

And when somebody would call,

they're calling the department, they're calling me.

So, I'm the first line of fire.

I received a phone call and this woman said,

I'm not sure really who to talk to.

- I said, I have a 24 year old son

that is learning disabled and he's missing.

- Carolyn sounded scared, of course, it's her son.

His age is 24, but he wasn't really 24.

- He couldn't read, he couldn't write,

his social skills weren't there.

I never made him feel as though that, that he had a problem

because I wanted him to be like everybody else.

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The roommate said that Kenny never came home,

that he didn't take any of his clothing with him.

And his vehicle was still parked outside.

I didn't know what to think, but I knew something was wrong.

And then that night I got a phone call

and it was from Kenny.

And he said, mom, I can't go home.

And I heard, "Let me speak to her."

And she grabbed the phone from Kenny

and she said, ma'am, he's 24 years old.

Leave him the [beep] alone, we're [beep] happy.

And she hung up.

Imagine hearing this woman say this to you.

And there's nothing as a mother you can do.

- She told me that he's supposedly

in Epping with a Suzanne woman.

And I go, Suzanne?

She said that she was blonde, driving a Cadillac.

And the more that I spoke to her,

the red flags were just going up.

And I'm like, that's Sheila.

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- Sheila, she was born on the 4th of July.

And when she would have a little temper tantrum,

my dad would say, well there's that firecracker.

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- She had a very violent,

domineering father who both physically abused her

and likely emotionally abusing her.

- To the outside world, my daddy was fun to be around

if you didn't know him, but he'd drink to excess.

And he was mean when he was drinking.

And it was...

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[sniffling]

- I was probably nine or 10 and Sheila

who again is four years younger than me

and our dad came home drunk.

- You could hear him rusting through the corn.

And I just laid really still.

Then I could hear him kicking something, screaming.

And I started crawling, whispering "Mother, mother."

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- So, now, she's got the dilemma of loving her father.

And part of the confusion was that hatred

was also fused with love and sex.

And what does this child do with that?

I mean, there are all sorts of shame, guilt, rage,

and to make it even worse, longing.

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- I'm like, I kind of have a gut,

just my feeling is because it was Sheila.

- Sheila was very well known amongst all the officers.

The Epping police department had been

there on her property hundreds of times.

It's a hundred plus acres of farmland,

but she was viewed as a nuisance caller.

I would put it that way.

- She's very intimidating and she's loud.

And she's gonna take over the conversation.

So I said to Gallagher,

is there any way that you can go to the farm

just to look into the matter and see if Kenny's there?

Her son.

- We went to Sheila's residence, knocked on the door.

Sheila answered.

We asked if Kenneth Countie was there.

Sheila was just like, you know, "Why are you here?

This is ridiculous.

He's here, but you can't talk to him."

We said, "We're just here to make sure that he's okay."

And eventually he came to the door.

He told us that he was fine

and was there of his own free will.

- I'm thinking to myself, okay, she's 47 years old.

She's with a 24 year old man,

the way that she spoke to me as a mother,

I was determined to get my son.

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- He was in a store wheelchair.

He looked like he had been injured in some way.

So we asked if he needed medical attention

and he was just simply not talking to us.

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- Sheila would call every day, almost.

She would just be talking about anything and everything.

So she called the department on the 23rd,

it was about noontime.

And I said, hey, how's that relationship going with Kenny?

And she goes, oh, he left during the middle of the night.

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- I got a phone call that Sheila had called the department

to say that Kenny left her in the night, that he was gone.

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- So when we arrived at Sheila LaBarre's property,

as we walked back, there was what appeared to be a mattress.

And we noticed that the debris in the front yard

was the charred remains of a fire pit.

But the main thing that we noticed was a piece of flesh.

And it had some bones sticking out

of the piece of flesh on either side of it

and it was pretty large.

We may be looking at some type of a,

a crime scene or some type of evidence destruction.

And then we heard a woman's voice yelling at us.

It was Sheila.

We explained that we were trying to find Kenneth.

She said, "Well, he's not here anymore."

We asked if we could go inside and look around,

make sure he wasn't there and she said, yes.

The house was cluttered with belongings.

There were rabbits everywhere and the house smelled.

After we finished looking around the house,

we went back outside.

I pointed to a bone in the fire pit

and I said, this piece of flesh in this bone, what is it?

And she looked right at us and she just simply stated,

"It's from a rabbit or a pedophile, I don't know."

And at that point I said, "You just said

it's from a pedophile, what do you mean?"

And she said, "No, no, no, no.

It's from a rabbit, that's what it is."

And all of a sudden, Sheila threw us off the property.

But I was going to apply for a search warrant

because I believed that that was

a piece of Kenneth Countie in that fire pit.

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- She didn't go through that ugly duckling stage, you know,

she just went from a pretty little girl

right into good looking young lady.

She was very smart and talented.

All the local high schools had a little beauty pageant.

And whoever advanced from that would be

in a actual junior miss pageant.

And one of Sheila's teachers had wanted her to enter.

So Sheila did, and she got to read a poem.

- Some of Sheila's poems that she had written

give us a window into a very troubled young woman.

Some men give treasures, some men give pleasures.

Some men give nothing at all.

Some men like daughters, some men like nieces,

some men prefer broken pieces.

She was a broken piece.

She was broken from early on.

- She knew how to dress, the seductive type dress.

She could flaunt it.

She was very sexual.

Didn't hide the fact.

- This way Sheila could use her charm,

use her beauty, her sexual prowess

to make these men do whatever she wanted them to do.

And that's the type of relationship she wanted.

- She really, and truly could read people

and could figure out their weaknesses.

And she just had that uncanny ability to use them,

befriend them, or destroy them.

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- I got a phone call saying to me

that we couldn't find Kenny.

He was no where to be found.

I said, "My son is dead, my son is dead, isn't he?"

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- When we arrived to serve the search warrant,

Sheila was a mess.

She had actually, when we arrived

been on her hands and knees in the fire pit,

just sifting by hand through it.

It was obvious at that point that she was probably

trying to get rid of evidence.

My initial fear that the large piece of flesh

and bone would be gone was absolutely true.

It was gone.

- We still had an incredible amount of the evidence

to examine, but we didn't have enough

at that point to arrest her.

Sheila LaBarre was free to go after

that initial interview with the detectives.

So she left.

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- Sheila was not in custody at this point.

We were trying to find out exactly what we had.

I think some of the most damaging evidence

was the sifting of the burn piles.

We were regularly bringing buckets

full of bones and other ash to the anthropologist.

We located evidence within the home,

including a knife, what they believed

to be blood on the knife.

You could see blood spatter

in the living room against the wall and in the kitchen.

Her bathroom downstairs,

there were blood stains covered with dust.

And then there was fresh blood.

It was jarring, seeing that quantity of blood everywhere.

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- As a young adult, Sheila wanted to be loved

by somebody in a way that isn't hurtful.

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Well, it was wonderful, you know, in the beginning.

- It was just one fight after another.

It was always a knock down brawl.

- In a sense, that's a repetition

of what she must have experienced as a kid.

On some level she must have been saying, I don't get it.

How can this be?

This loving man is all of a sudden horrendous.

- She told me the story of in the coma.

There were a lot of men around her bed

with long white beards wearing white robes.

They told her that she was an angel

and she was being sent back to Earth.

- That's sort of a rebirth experience.

She now lives as a new life

with everything that she wants here on earth.

Now she's powerful enough to protect herself.

- And so she decided she was gonna have to,

I guess, find new territory.

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- At this point, it was our burden to prove

that the remains that we found

was the remains of Ken Countie.

Sheila.

My main focus was just to lock her into

a statement of what happened to Ken Countie.

- She was accusing Carolynn of being a pedophile.

Same thing she was saying about Ken.

She was saying that Ken was a pedophile.

She was just making all this up.

You killed that kid.

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- Even though on the tape, she says, "He's in that bag."

Even though she tells the officers,

"I was burning rabbits or a pedophile,"

she just continued saying that

she had no idea where Ken was.

- [Detective] Doesn't have to be a motel.

You can stay wherever you'd like to stay.

- She was not allowed to return to her home.

There was a search warrant on that home.

So she had to go elsewhere.

Our next hurdle was to prove that

Sheila LaBarre had murdered Ken Countie.

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- In the beginning, she was just Sheila Bailey Jennings.

She didn't become Sheila LaBarre until

she moved in with Dr. LaBarre.

She was 27 years old, and she answered an ad

that Dr. LaBarre had put in a magazine.

He was about 57 years old, had his practice,

he had the 115 acre farm.

He had a lot of money, but he was incredibly lonely.

- She actually sent topless photographs of herself,

and she used that to ensnare Dr. LaBarre.

She used her sex to lure men in to get things from them.

- She actually was able to convince him

that he should change all the legal documents

in his will so that she became the heir to everything.

- She genuinely has a brief period

of stability with, you know,

somebody who is something of a father figure as it were.

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And then he dies and the rug has been

totally pulled out from underneath her.

- All of this with him seemed to

start triggering memories in me and fears

and things traumatic.

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- After Dr. LaBarre passed away,

she started with the phone chats.

And the first time I'd heard anything about pedophilia

was when she said she was talking to a guy

and she would ask questions

and see if they were interested in kids.

- Always kept notes usually when I talk

to these men on Telemates, I just jotted notes down.

If I thought they were evil, I'd put evil.

- And I said, "Why are you doing that?"

And then this is where the conversation come about

from the white bearded men that

she was sent back to Earth to venge pedophilia.

- She's saying, "I came back from God.

He sent me back as an angel to kill pedophiles.

All sex offenders must die."

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- We had a large amount of personnel

doing the search within the house.

And then one of the detectives approached me

and said that they found a bank statement

with the name of Michael Deloge with Sheila's address.

We found an identification card of Michael Deloge

and they started finding other documents

with Michael Deloge's name.

So now we don't know, who is Michael Deloge?

I kind of got a sick feeling in my stomach at that point.

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- We didn't know if we would find more

bodies on the property or not.

There could have been more victims.

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I contacted his mother, asked if she's heard from him.

She said, "No, I haven't heard from him from a very long time."

And she was very concerned.

The last time that she saw Mike was when

he visited her with Sheila LaBarre, his new girlfriend.

- And she said that she was

in fear for Mike because of Sheila.

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An arrest warrant was issued for Sheila LaBarre

but she had fled the area.

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I was just about all set to go on America's Most Wanted

at one point, when I was told

she was located and arrested by Revere Police Department.

A truck driver who had been

watching the news, recognized her.

She was a woman that he had driven into Massachusetts.

She said that she was an angel

and that she was put on this Earth to hunt down

and kill pedophiles.

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- She picks up Michael Deloge knowing

that he's a desperate, vulnerable human being.

He's homeless, nobody is taking care of him.

And he thinks he's won the lottery.

At this point, the men that she had relationships with

were her means of getting revenge.

Her means of expelling her hate.

- She starts developing this persona

of the revenging angel

and the narrative becomes stronger in her mind

as time goes on.

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- I'm not someone who planned any of this,

- Sheila could have chose many things,

to assault Michael Deloge.

She could have chose a club, a knife, a pair of scissors.

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- There's blood spatter on the walls that belongs to him.

So he clearly was stabbed at some point.

She stabbed him to death

and she dismembered him with a knife.

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- Yeah, I think that Sheila,

if you take a look at the totality

of what she had done to these people,

she certainly fits the profile of a serial killer.

- We're pretty sure that Ken's the last one she killed.

But what happened before?

Who knows how many victims are out there?

She's been living on that farm for 13 years.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were others.

- We did turn up the tailbones

on the outskirts of the property

that we have been unable to match

to any person at this stage.

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- Sheila absolutely would've

continued to kill in horrific ways.

And I think that's true of all serial killers.

For Sheila, this is building up over the years

to be sort of the avenging angel

that God sent to take care of pedophiles.

Kill sex offenders.

Does this have anything to do with your dad?

Very likely it does.

- Sheila was not able to escape her past.

She was broken into pieces.

There was never much that enabled her

to put any of the pieces back together in a healthy way.

The only way of dealing with her rage

was ultimately to retaliate and seek revenge.

- At some point, you move from just

abusing these guys to finally saying, you know what?

I have the right to kill them.

And you cross that line.

That line where you make your first kill,

it's arousing, it's intoxicating, it's powerful.

You can't have more power than controlling

whether somebody lives or dies.

That is the ultimate power.

- I never imagined that anyone in my family

would be labeled a serial killer.

Sheila was probably the most intelligent one of all of us.

Beautiful girl.

Funny, had it all.

Never in a million years

did I think that she would trade all of that

for a small cell with a bunk

where they don't even give you a pillow.

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- I had a son who was a loving, caring son

and he trusted, trusted everybody.

As much as you try to instill in him that

there are bad people out there,

he never thought anybody was bad.

Even though I know that in my heart and mind,

he's gone, I still wait for that day,

he comes home.