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NICK POPE: Wow. 9 00:00:21,794 --> 00:00:26,252 NARRATOR: Ancient stories of humans brought off planet 10 00:00:26,407 --> 00:00:28,399 by otherworldly beings. 11 00:00:28,421 --> 00:00:32,552 ARIEL BAR TZADOK: Angels, demons, spirits... 12 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:35,565 are these the same extraterrestrial entities 13 00:00:35,567 --> 00:00:39,079 who are interacting with us today? 14 00:00:39,101 --> 00:00:44,039 My mother and I both had this dreamlike experience 15 00:00:44,061 --> 00:00:45,739 of being taken to a craft. 16 00:00:45,894 --> 00:00:49,912 And I saw these nonhuman entities. 17 00:00:49,914 --> 00:00:53,812 NARRATOR: Could these incredible stories really be true? 18 00:00:53,921 --> 00:00:58,185 And if so, why are humans being taken? 19 00:00:58,241 --> 00:01:00,159 DAVID CHILDRESS: You have to ask yourself 20 00:01:00,334 --> 00:01:02,752 what is really going on here? Because these cases 21 00:01:02,841 --> 00:01:05,365 simply defy explanation. 22 00:01:05,421 --> 00:01:07,959 23 00:01:18,181 --> 00:01:20,099 24 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:36,379 25 00:01:40,121 --> 00:01:42,792 NARRATOR: Pasadena, California. 26 00:01:42,947 --> 00:01:47,259 June 16, 2018. 27 00:01:47,414 --> 00:01:50,859 Thousands of people from all over the world gather 28 00:01:50,881 --> 00:01:53,165 for AlienCon, 29 00:01:53,321 --> 00:01:57,359 a three-day event to discuss and explore the possibility 30 00:01:57,514 --> 00:02:01,259 that intelligent life exists beyond our planet, 31 00:02:01,261 --> 00:02:04,792 and may have visited Earth in the distant past. 32 00:02:04,794 --> 00:02:08,192 POPE: It's one thing for people to say 33 00:02:08,367 --> 00:02:11,285 that not only have they seen a UFO, 34 00:02:11,287 --> 00:02:14,225 but they've had an experience, a contact... 35 00:02:14,281 --> 00:02:15,743 NARRATOR: During one panel led by former 36 00:02:15,767 --> 00:02:18,845 Ministry of Defence investigator Nick Pope, 37 00:02:18,847 --> 00:02:21,585 a group of experts talk about a significant 38 00:02:21,587 --> 00:02:24,359 and controversial subject: 39 00:02:24,381 --> 00:02:26,885 alien abductions. 40 00:02:26,887 --> 00:02:28,959 LINDA MOULTON HOWE: Looking out at all of you, 41 00:02:29,134 --> 00:02:32,545 one of the things that we would like to know is, 42 00:02:32,547 --> 00:02:37,012 how many of you have had an experience you think 43 00:02:37,187 --> 00:02:39,239 might involve having been abducted? 44 00:02:39,261 --> 00:02:43,779 Can you all put your hands up who think that you have been? 45 00:02:45,361 --> 00:02:48,545 POPE: Wow, that's a lot of people. 46 00:02:48,601 --> 00:02:51,019 If anyone feels comfortable 47 00:02:51,194 --> 00:02:53,312 about coming up to the microphone, 48 00:02:53,467 --> 00:02:56,985 we would love to hear your stories. 49 00:02:57,161 --> 00:02:59,305 So, uh, please, yeah. 50 00:02:59,307 --> 00:03:00,610 ALICE GREEN: My name's, uh, Alice Green. 51 00:03:00,634 --> 00:03:03,619 And, um, 40 years ago, 52 00:03:03,774 --> 00:03:08,219 uh, when I was 15, I, um, I had an abduction experience. 53 00:03:08,261 --> 00:03:11,165 There was a huge spaceship over my house, 54 00:03:11,167 --> 00:03:13,117 and, uh, one minute I'm in my bed and the next minute 55 00:03:13,141 --> 00:03:14,932 I'm up in the spaceship. 56 00:03:15,087 --> 00:03:17,872 I wanted to call it a dream, 57 00:03:17,874 --> 00:03:19,772 because I didn't want to call it an abduction experience 58 00:03:19,774 --> 00:03:22,219 for a long time. 59 00:03:22,221 --> 00:03:23,877 KYLE SANCHEZ: I started having one of those experiences, 60 00:03:23,901 --> 00:03:29,859 out of body, but not just in the vicinity. 61 00:03:29,861 --> 00:03:32,239 I kind of started entering the space realm, 62 00:03:32,394 --> 00:03:34,812 and I just kept going. 63 00:03:34,967 --> 00:03:37,399 And it just got scarier and scarier for me. 64 00:03:37,401 --> 00:03:39,339 I didn't know what was going on. 65 00:03:39,494 --> 00:03:41,050 HAYLEY KINSNER: The alien that I spoke to 66 00:03:41,074 --> 00:03:42,985 was about to my shoulder, 67 00:03:43,041 --> 00:03:44,645 maybe four and a half feet tall, 68 00:03:44,701 --> 00:03:46,352 and he had three fingers. 69 00:03:46,354 --> 00:03:49,819 He was like your typical grey alien. 70 00:03:49,821 --> 00:03:51,310 And I had several encounters over the course 71 00:03:51,334 --> 00:03:53,332 of the next couple years. 72 00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:55,319 I never wanted to tell anybody because I thought my friends 73 00:03:55,341 --> 00:03:57,326 and family would think I was crazy. 74 00:03:57,328 --> 00:03:58,739 NARRATOR: Millions of people 75 00:03:58,894 --> 00:04:02,265 taken by extraterrestrial beings? 76 00:04:02,267 --> 00:04:05,419 If alien abductions are happening, 77 00:04:05,574 --> 00:04:08,339 as experiencers at this panel 78 00:04:08,341 --> 00:04:11,179 and many other alleged abductees claim, 79 00:04:11,181 --> 00:04:14,499 what evidence is there to support their stories? 80 00:04:14,521 --> 00:04:19,379 As the number of recorded abduction cases has increased 81 00:04:19,401 --> 00:04:23,152 over the last several decades, experts in a variety of fields 82 00:04:23,307 --> 00:04:26,819 have worked to find this evidence. 83 00:04:26,821 --> 00:04:30,685 In 1991, my colleague Budd Hopkins and I 84 00:04:30,687 --> 00:04:34,599 got funding for a national poll about the abduction phenomenon 85 00:04:34,774 --> 00:04:36,985 through the Roper Organization. 86 00:04:37,161 --> 00:04:40,972 We found that at least two percent of the American public, 87 00:04:41,127 --> 00:04:44,245 and at most, perhaps even five percent of the American public, 88 00:04:44,401 --> 00:04:46,219 were abductees. 89 00:04:46,394 --> 00:04:50,252 Even with two percent, we're dealing with an enormous number 90 00:04:50,254 --> 00:04:52,932 of people who've been abducted throughout the world. 91 00:04:53,087 --> 00:04:55,319 Of course, when people from the outside 92 00:04:55,474 --> 00:04:57,085 look at the abduction phenomenon, 93 00:04:57,261 --> 00:05:00,099 they think that this is just neurological. 94 00:05:00,121 --> 00:05:01,965 I wish that was the case. 95 00:05:02,141 --> 00:05:06,232 That would be wonderful if that were the case. 96 00:05:06,407 --> 00:05:09,052 I can say, from having interviewed now 97 00:05:09,207 --> 00:05:12,779 about 1,600 people in the abduction syndrome, 98 00:05:12,801 --> 00:05:15,519 there are common denominators. 99 00:05:15,541 --> 00:05:20,739 I would say the vast majority don't know details. 100 00:05:20,761 --> 00:05:24,625 They just remember pieces. 101 00:05:24,681 --> 00:05:27,999 They might remember, "I saw these eyes, 102 00:05:28,021 --> 00:05:31,219 and they were big and black and slanted." 103 00:05:31,374 --> 00:05:34,372 They will hear either a buzzing sound, 104 00:05:34,527 --> 00:05:37,459 or there might be a clicking. 105 00:05:37,481 --> 00:05:41,105 Or in the room, there might be, like, a little orb of light, 106 00:05:41,161 --> 00:05:43,265 or several orbs of light. 107 00:05:43,321 --> 00:05:46,419 They won't be able to move. 108 00:05:46,421 --> 00:05:50,485 And the paralysis is always described the same way. 109 00:05:50,641 --> 00:05:54,785 They can move their eyes, they can see. 110 00:05:54,841 --> 00:05:58,139 They can't move their head. 111 00:05:58,294 --> 00:06:02,979 They will say they see their bedroom wall just disappear. 112 00:06:03,134 --> 00:06:06,105 Or they are taken right through the wall. 113 00:06:06,261 --> 00:06:08,899 Or they're taken through a window. 114 00:06:09,054 --> 00:06:12,245 Or they are taken through the ceiling. 115 00:06:12,421 --> 00:06:16,305 And then 100% of people, 116 00:06:16,461 --> 00:06:21,645 their next consciousness is waking up, often the sun is up, 117 00:06:21,801 --> 00:06:24,145 and they know something's happened, 118 00:06:24,201 --> 00:06:26,352 but they don't know what. 119 00:06:26,461 --> 00:06:29,372 JOE MONTALDO: Well, when you start adding it up 120 00:06:29,381 --> 00:06:31,252 across 40, 50,000 cases, 121 00:06:31,254 --> 00:06:33,145 the number one piece of compelling evidence 122 00:06:33,301 --> 00:06:36,119 is the credibility of the individual. 123 00:06:36,294 --> 00:06:39,405 We have doctors, lawyers, politicians. 124 00:06:39,561 --> 00:06:42,432 So these are people who have a lot at stake 125 00:06:42,434 --> 00:06:44,239 if they were to say, "Hey, I've been abducted 126 00:06:44,394 --> 00:06:45,834 by an alien," or something like this, 127 00:06:45,927 --> 00:06:50,212 so you have to take those people seriously. 128 00:06:50,367 --> 00:06:53,379 There are really only two possibilities here. 129 00:06:53,381 --> 00:06:56,092 Either we're dealing with a mass delusion 130 00:06:56,267 --> 00:06:59,519 on an unprecedented scale, 131 00:06:59,694 --> 00:07:05,119 or what these people are saying is actually literally happening 132 00:07:05,274 --> 00:07:10,039 in a physical sense, and these alien abductions are real. 133 00:07:13,207 --> 00:07:15,759 NARRATOR: But if millions of people have been abducted 134 00:07:15,914 --> 00:07:19,679 by extraterrestrials... or even a fraction of that number... 135 00:07:19,834 --> 00:07:22,792 what could be the reason behind it? 136 00:07:22,947 --> 00:07:24,492 And why now? 137 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:28,119 While what we call alien abductions 138 00:07:28,274 --> 00:07:31,285 may only have been reported in modern times, 139 00:07:31,361 --> 00:07:34,532 ancient astronaut theorists claim there is evidence 140 00:07:34,534 --> 00:07:36,632 that this phenomenon has been happening 141 00:07:36,741 --> 00:07:39,265 for thousands of years. 142 00:07:39,441 --> 00:07:41,992 In ancient biblical texts, 143 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:46,745 and also in other textual references, we have accounts 144 00:07:46,747 --> 00:07:52,165 of people ascending and descending from and to the sky 145 00:07:52,167 --> 00:07:57,659 with fiery chariots and flying type of craft. 146 00:07:57,834 --> 00:08:02,085 And that to me indicates that what these accounts refer to 147 00:08:02,087 --> 00:08:06,925 are similar to modern-day abductions. 148 00:08:06,927 --> 00:08:09,865 Those accounts are eyewitness accounts. 149 00:08:09,941 --> 00:08:13,099 They're not told in the third person, 150 00:08:13,101 --> 00:08:15,545 but it's actually "I, Ezekiel, witnessed." 151 00:08:15,701 --> 00:08:17,545 "I, Enoch, witnessed." 152 00:08:17,601 --> 00:08:19,185 "I, Abraham, did this." 153 00:08:19,187 --> 00:08:20,945 "I walked through there." 154 00:08:20,947 --> 00:08:26,072 Also, in ancient China, and also, in ancient Egypt, 155 00:08:26,247 --> 00:08:29,319 are there stories of people having been visited 156 00:08:29,494 --> 00:08:34,879 or having gone up to the sky to visit with the so-called gods. 157 00:08:35,034 --> 00:08:40,925 What better way to describe an extraterrestrial encounter? 158 00:08:41,081 --> 00:08:44,905 So today, we call it an "alien abduction." 159 00:08:44,961 --> 00:08:50,765 In previous centuries, it was called by different names. 160 00:08:50,921 --> 00:08:53,085 But we recognize from the experience 161 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:54,852 that they are identical. 162 00:08:55,027 --> 00:08:58,179 And therefore, it adds validity 163 00:08:58,354 --> 00:09:04,092 to this not being a modern myth, but a very ancient problem. 164 00:09:04,201 --> 00:09:08,332 Why today, then, is it such an important issue? 165 00:09:08,487 --> 00:09:11,172 It very well may be that we did not recognize in the past 166 00:09:11,174 --> 00:09:13,665 how widespread these experiences were. 167 00:09:13,667 --> 00:09:18,099 Or it could be that there is a stepping up of the agenda, 168 00:09:18,254 --> 00:09:20,972 and that the experience is spreading greater, 169 00:09:20,974 --> 00:09:23,339 farther and wider than it was in the past. 170 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:27,345 NARRATOR: Could these extraordinary accounts, 171 00:09:27,347 --> 00:09:31,812 both past and present, be describing an ongoing program 172 00:09:31,967 --> 00:09:35,479 of human abduction, in spite of the skepticism 173 00:09:35,634 --> 00:09:37,679 with which they are viewed by the public? 174 00:09:39,714 --> 00:09:43,892 And is there a smoking gun that will finally establish 175 00:09:44,047 --> 00:09:48,232 that this phenomenon is real, and still underway? 176 00:09:48,387 --> 00:09:52,492 Perhaps further clues can be found by examining 177 00:09:52,501 --> 00:09:55,859 one of the most well-documented cases on record. 178 00:10:02,014 --> 00:10:04,979 NARRATOR: Sheffield, Massachusetts. 179 00:10:05,001 --> 00:10:08,732 June 11, 2018. 180 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:11,059 Well, we're pretty much here now. 181 00:10:11,214 --> 00:10:14,299 NARRATOR: Author and researcher Mike Bara 182 00:10:14,301 --> 00:10:17,939 has joined abduction experiencer Thom Reed to visit the site 183 00:10:18,094 --> 00:10:22,825 where Thom says he and members of his family were abducted 184 00:10:22,827 --> 00:10:27,485 after encountering a strange UFO nearly 50 years ago. 185 00:10:27,487 --> 00:10:31,279 Does it evoke any memories or emotions, bring back anything? 186 00:10:31,434 --> 00:10:32,479 Like an anxiety. 187 00:10:32,654 --> 00:10:34,632 Really? Or nervousness I guess. 188 00:10:34,787 --> 00:10:37,445 NARRATOR: The UFO was reportedly seen, 189 00:10:37,621 --> 00:10:39,959 not only by the Reed family, 190 00:10:40,114 --> 00:10:42,119 but also by multiple witnesses 191 00:10:42,121 --> 00:10:44,532 all across Western Massachusetts. 192 00:10:44,687 --> 00:10:46,705 Okay. So, I guess here we are. 193 00:10:46,707 --> 00:10:49,212 This is the spot, right? This is it. 194 00:10:49,367 --> 00:10:51,585 Can you kind of paint me a picture of what was going on 195 00:10:51,761 --> 00:10:52,779 that night, what happened the day 196 00:10:52,801 --> 00:10:54,219 you drove up this road? Sure. 197 00:10:54,374 --> 00:10:55,957 Well, first of all, it was, like, 90 degrees. 198 00:10:55,981 --> 00:10:57,450 It was a really hot night, and there were 199 00:10:57,474 --> 00:10:58,754 an awful lot of families outside 200 00:10:58,801 --> 00:11:00,619 because it was Labor Day. 201 00:11:00,774 --> 00:11:03,679 It was September 1, 1969, which was a Labor Day holiday. 202 00:11:03,681 --> 00:11:06,079 Okay. Can you describe what people saw? I mean, did they see 203 00:11:06,081 --> 00:11:07,877 just a light in the sky? They all saw something 204 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,432 a little bit different. What do you remember 205 00:11:09,434 --> 00:11:10,903 about what happened to you and your family? 206 00:11:10,927 --> 00:11:12,439 There's a lot of time that went by, 207 00:11:12,614 --> 00:11:14,392 and I only remember little pieces of it. 208 00:11:14,394 --> 00:11:17,245 But, uh, we were coming right down this road here, 209 00:11:17,247 --> 00:11:19,539 and we were heading through the bridge. 210 00:11:19,694 --> 00:11:21,792 Mm-hmm. And, uh, let-let me show you. 211 00:11:21,794 --> 00:11:23,865 Okay. Sure. All right? 212 00:11:24,021 --> 00:11:27,419 NARRATOR: At 9:00 p.m. on the night of the sighting, 213 00:11:27,574 --> 00:11:30,599 ten-year-old Thom and his mother, grandmother 214 00:11:30,641 --> 00:11:33,272 and brother were just minutes 215 00:11:33,274 --> 00:11:37,245 from getting home when they crossed the bridge. 216 00:11:37,401 --> 00:11:39,650 Well, I was in the back seat behind the driver, my mother. 217 00:11:39,674 --> 00:11:41,232 Mm-hmm. And my grandmother, 218 00:11:41,387 --> 00:11:42,777 who was sitting in the passenger seat, 219 00:11:42,801 --> 00:11:44,705 was the first one to notice that there was a... 220 00:11:44,707 --> 00:11:46,699 an odd light that didn't seem to make sense. 221 00:11:46,741 --> 00:11:50,132 There was a bleed of light coming through the bridge. 222 00:11:50,307 --> 00:11:53,385 BARA: So light was coming through places 223 00:11:53,387 --> 00:11:54,790 it should not have been if it was just headlights. 224 00:11:54,814 --> 00:11:56,283 REED: Yeah, it was coming through the walls a little bit, 225 00:11:56,307 --> 00:11:58,319 coming through the floorboards. 226 00:11:58,494 --> 00:11:59,745 Then we exited the bridge. 227 00:11:59,901 --> 00:12:02,939 This is the spot right there. 228 00:12:03,114 --> 00:12:04,477 This is where we first saw it, Mike. 229 00:12:04,501 --> 00:12:06,025 So, um, 230 00:12:06,181 --> 00:12:08,065 can you describe what you saw? Yeah. 231 00:12:08,067 --> 00:12:10,665 It was like an orb, if you would, or a sphere, 232 00:12:10,821 --> 00:12:14,379 and it was about, I'm gonna say maybe 30, 40 yards round. 233 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:16,692 It was a perfectly round sphere, 234 00:12:16,694 --> 00:12:19,765 and it had rods of light that seemed to fire from it. 235 00:12:19,921 --> 00:12:23,445 So it looked like a shiver cone, or an ice cream cone. 236 00:12:23,447 --> 00:12:26,692 So, none of you has ever seen anything like this before? 237 00:12:26,694 --> 00:12:28,699 No, not like that, no. 238 00:12:28,741 --> 00:12:30,692 NARRATOR: As Thom's mother continued 239 00:12:30,701 --> 00:12:32,692 driving slowly down the road, 240 00:12:32,847 --> 00:12:35,719 the object flew on a route parallel to theirs 241 00:12:35,721 --> 00:12:40,339 until it took an abrupt turn, cutting them off. 242 00:12:40,361 --> 00:12:42,699 The car comes to a stop, 243 00:12:42,701 --> 00:12:45,219 and there's a feeling that came over the car, 244 00:12:45,374 --> 00:12:46,992 which was like a... some type of a field. 245 00:12:47,147 --> 00:12:50,219 And we were just gone. We aren't in the car anymore. 246 00:12:55,101 --> 00:12:58,905 And I remember seeing a light or a door of some kind. 247 00:12:59,061 --> 00:13:01,092 And I was grabbed like this on my left arm. 248 00:13:01,247 --> 00:13:03,892 And I was kind of pushed towards this door. 249 00:13:04,067 --> 00:13:06,319 I went into the door. 250 00:13:06,494 --> 00:13:09,892 And I was sitting on... almost like a-an autopsy table. 251 00:13:10,047 --> 00:13:12,805 And I saw what looked like 252 00:13:12,807 --> 00:13:16,079 some type of a large insect, like an ant, if you will. 253 00:13:16,254 --> 00:13:19,072 Very stick-like legs, bamboo almost. 254 00:13:19,227 --> 00:13:23,132 And that's what frightened me, and then I was out. 255 00:13:23,134 --> 00:13:25,199 Then I remember waking in the back of the car. 256 00:13:27,147 --> 00:13:31,845 If you could... remember 257 00:13:31,847 --> 00:13:34,499 every single detail, every single thing that happened 258 00:13:34,654 --> 00:13:37,772 to you, would you want to? I want to know, 259 00:13:37,774 --> 00:13:40,652 but at the same time, I'm not sure I... 260 00:13:40,654 --> 00:13:42,865 that's a good thing at this point. 261 00:13:43,021 --> 00:13:44,892 It's-it's confusing. 262 00:13:44,901 --> 00:13:48,125 You know, I kind of need to know everything that happened, 263 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:50,567 but at the same time, there's really no way for me to do that. 264 00:13:52,781 --> 00:13:55,499 NARRATOR: For years following the reported event, 265 00:13:55,654 --> 00:13:57,859 a number of local authorities and UFO investigators 266 00:13:58,014 --> 00:13:59,685 tried to find evidence 267 00:13:59,741 --> 00:14:04,379 that would validate the Reed family's incredible account. 268 00:14:04,534 --> 00:14:08,245 One of these was a local judge named Kevin Titus, 269 00:14:08,401 --> 00:14:11,905 who has spent decades interviewing eyewitnesses 270 00:14:12,061 --> 00:14:14,685 and verifying their testimony. 271 00:14:14,861 --> 00:14:18,605 It is his belief that enough evidence exists to conclude 272 00:14:18,681 --> 00:14:21,839 that something otherworldly did, in fact, 273 00:14:21,841 --> 00:14:26,805 happen on that summer night nearly 50 years ago. 274 00:14:26,807 --> 00:14:28,697 Everybody couldn't explain what they were seeing. 275 00:14:28,721 --> 00:14:30,652 People were saying... calling in WSBS radio, 276 00:14:30,807 --> 00:14:32,319 and telling them 277 00:14:32,474 --> 00:14:34,639 that there's something going on over in this area. 278 00:14:34,814 --> 00:14:37,892 And, uh, nobody was able to 279 00:14:37,894 --> 00:14:41,419 completely say what it was, but everybody saw it. 280 00:14:41,441 --> 00:14:43,959 There was well over 250 people that called in. 281 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:46,799 They were scared, hysterical. 282 00:14:46,954 --> 00:14:49,185 Some people couldn't explain what they saw. 283 00:14:49,187 --> 00:14:51,387 284 00:14:51,434 --> 00:14:53,299 And they called the Army Reserve Air Base. 285 00:14:53,341 --> 00:14:55,319 It's a fact, it did happen. 286 00:14:55,341 --> 00:14:58,179 When you have over 250 people that saw something the same day, 287 00:14:58,221 --> 00:14:59,639 how can you say it wasn't true? 288 00:15:02,001 --> 00:15:04,792 NARRATOR: Over 250 callers? 289 00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:10,779 And all reportedly seeing the same unidentified flying object? 290 00:15:10,801 --> 00:15:14,092 For abduction researchers and local authorities, 291 00:15:14,094 --> 00:15:16,792 the incredible number of witnesses 292 00:15:16,794 --> 00:15:18,079 gave the Reed family's case 293 00:15:18,101 --> 00:15:21,879 an uncommonly high level of credibility. 294 00:15:21,901 --> 00:15:27,092 So much so that on November 3, 2015, 295 00:15:27,094 --> 00:15:31,605 Massachusetts Governor Charles D. Baker issued a citation 296 00:15:31,761 --> 00:15:33,192 which formally recognized 297 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:36,639 that a verified UFO event had taken place, 298 00:15:36,661 --> 00:15:41,905 just as the Reed family and many others had described. 299 00:15:42,061 --> 00:15:45,552 To date, no other alien encounter has received 300 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:49,405 this kind of acknowledgement. 301 00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:52,579 What I think is important in all this is 302 00:15:52,601 --> 00:15:56,912 that we were the first to be state-inducted as a true event. 303 00:15:56,914 --> 00:16:00,039 And I think that opens doors, and paves the way for a lot 304 00:16:00,194 --> 00:16:02,479 of other people who deserve to be taken more seriously. 305 00:16:04,007 --> 00:16:05,892 NARRATOR: Do the verified accounts 306 00:16:05,981 --> 00:16:08,699 of the Sheffield incident refute skeptics 307 00:16:08,854 --> 00:16:12,279 who claim that abduction stories are unreliable? 308 00:16:12,454 --> 00:16:16,945 Ancient astronaut theorists say yes, and they suggest 309 00:16:17,101 --> 00:16:19,785 that even more compelling evidence can be found 310 00:16:19,787 --> 00:16:25,459 by examining memories buried deep inside... the human mind. 311 00:16:30,221 --> 00:16:32,559 NARRATOR: At one of the AlienCon panels 312 00:16:32,714 --> 00:16:35,692 examining alien abduction phenomena, 313 00:16:35,847 --> 00:16:38,565 a member of the audience shares what he believes 314 00:16:38,567 --> 00:16:41,585 to have been a real-life alien encounter, 315 00:16:41,661 --> 00:16:43,699 one involving missing time. 316 00:16:43,854 --> 00:16:46,085 MAN: In about 1996, 317 00:16:46,161 --> 00:16:50,212 I saw a UFO, and it scared me bad enough that I called 911. 318 00:16:50,214 --> 00:16:52,179 And it just flew around a water tower 319 00:16:52,201 --> 00:16:53,801 across the street from my house, and went 320 00:16:53,954 --> 00:16:56,692 into Oak Riparian Park, and, uh, I grabbed 321 00:16:56,694 --> 00:16:58,999 my flashlight. I wanted to see it, and I chased it. 322 00:17:00,421 --> 00:17:02,005 And the next thing I remember, 323 00:17:02,161 --> 00:17:04,592 I'm-I'm walking back. But I have this thing. 324 00:17:04,594 --> 00:17:06,332 Every time I go back to that same park, 325 00:17:06,334 --> 00:17:08,679 I feel like I'm missing something. 326 00:17:08,834 --> 00:17:10,512 It's a very common thing, 327 00:17:10,667 --> 00:17:13,205 missing time with the abduction experience. 328 00:17:13,261 --> 00:17:17,079 And so, yeah, so, I've been helping a lot of people going... 329 00:17:17,234 --> 00:17:19,299 you know, go through the regression. 330 00:17:19,301 --> 00:17:21,845 There's different ways that you can do regression, 331 00:17:21,901 --> 00:17:23,939 but I definitely encourage you to do that. 332 00:17:24,094 --> 00:17:26,119 NARRATOR: Caroline Cory is an expert 333 00:17:26,294 --> 00:17:29,799 in hypnotic regression... a meditative practice used 334 00:17:29,821 --> 00:17:33,239 to release missing time memories that have been suppressed, 335 00:17:33,241 --> 00:17:37,039 but are still present in a person's subconscious mind. 336 00:17:37,041 --> 00:17:39,372 For the past 16 years, 337 00:17:39,547 --> 00:17:43,139 she has specialized in helping people remember and understand 338 00:17:43,294 --> 00:17:45,532 what they believe to be an incident 339 00:17:45,707 --> 00:17:48,179 involving extraterrestrial abduction. 340 00:17:50,347 --> 00:17:52,805 When people have a trauma, 341 00:17:52,807 --> 00:17:57,819 they tend to push it back into the subconscious mind, 342 00:17:57,861 --> 00:17:59,599 because, on a conscious level, 343 00:17:59,754 --> 00:18:03,872 it is associated with fear, anxiety. 344 00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:06,819 Hypnotherapy allows you 345 00:18:06,974 --> 00:18:09,479 to bring the mind to a certain level 346 00:18:09,654 --> 00:18:13,525 so that the person is so relaxed, 347 00:18:13,681 --> 00:18:16,039 they're almost in a trance. 348 00:18:16,194 --> 00:18:18,079 Then they can tap into their subconscious mind 349 00:18:18,234 --> 00:18:20,219 and relive the experience. 350 00:18:20,374 --> 00:18:22,792 When you relive the experience, you... 351 00:18:22,801 --> 00:18:25,099 right away, you begin to heal it. 352 00:18:25,121 --> 00:18:29,065 That is what happens in hypnotherapy. 353 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,019 Hey, Joe. How are you? Hi, Caroline. 354 00:18:31,194 --> 00:18:34,472 NARRATOR: On June 11, 2018, 355 00:18:34,481 --> 00:18:36,479 Caroline met with Joe Cerletti 356 00:18:36,634 --> 00:18:39,212 for a hypnotic regression session. 357 00:18:39,367 --> 00:18:41,845 Joe has had difficulty remembering the details 358 00:18:41,847 --> 00:18:45,772 of an incident that happened in the spring of 2008, 359 00:18:45,861 --> 00:18:50,219 when he and two friends were driving on a dark highway 360 00:18:50,241 --> 00:18:53,732 just after midnight near Oakland, California. 361 00:18:53,734 --> 00:18:57,172 We were just driving down the road at an average speed, 362 00:18:57,174 --> 00:19:01,445 65, maybe 70 miles an hour, and instantaneously, 363 00:19:01,621 --> 00:19:04,492 we weren't driving anymore and the car was shut off. 364 00:19:04,647 --> 00:19:08,245 And we were parked about 45 minutes away 365 00:19:08,247 --> 00:19:11,752 in a parking lot for an amusement park after hours 366 00:19:11,907 --> 00:19:14,385 and we were locked inside the gate 367 00:19:14,541 --> 00:19:18,145 with no explanation how we got there at that time. 368 00:19:18,147 --> 00:19:21,605 NARRATOR: Joe realized that he and his friends 369 00:19:21,761 --> 00:19:24,785 may have been abducted by extraterrestrials, 370 00:19:24,961 --> 00:19:27,092 extraterrestrials which he believes 371 00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:30,432 deliberately blocked his memory. 372 00:19:30,521 --> 00:19:33,865 Today, Caroline will use hypnotic regression 373 00:19:33,867 --> 00:19:35,765 to hopefully help Joe remember more 374 00:19:35,921 --> 00:19:37,805 about what happened on that night. 375 00:19:37,961 --> 00:19:39,825 You ready? 376 00:19:39,981 --> 00:19:42,212 I am. Okay, here we go. 377 00:19:42,214 --> 00:19:44,699 So, we're gonna sit up straight 378 00:19:44,701 --> 00:19:46,959 with the feet flat on the floor. 379 00:19:49,261 --> 00:19:52,619 And close your eyes. 380 00:19:52,621 --> 00:19:56,645 And take a deep breath in through the nose. 381 00:19:56,821 --> 00:20:01,592 And exhale through the mouth. 382 00:20:01,747 --> 00:20:04,139 As you exhale... 383 00:20:04,294 --> 00:20:07,292 ...you let go of the stress, the tension. 384 00:20:07,447 --> 00:20:12,259 Focus on your hands, on your arms... 385 00:20:12,414 --> 00:20:14,565 on your heart. 386 00:20:14,721 --> 00:20:18,405 We are now in the year 2008. 387 00:20:18,561 --> 00:20:23,359 You are driving with two friends. 388 00:20:23,514 --> 00:20:27,052 And then what happens? 389 00:20:27,054 --> 00:20:29,899 CERLETTI: A very bright flash of light 390 00:20:29,921 --> 00:20:31,779 just surrounds us and absorbs us. 391 00:20:31,934 --> 00:20:33,945 Okay. 392 00:20:33,947 --> 00:20:35,372 CERLETTI: I'm getting these thoughts in my head 393 00:20:35,374 --> 00:20:36,799 that I've never heard before. 394 00:20:36,954 --> 00:20:39,639 I'm trying to... Don't try. 395 00:20:39,794 --> 00:20:42,839 Don't assess or judge or analyze. 396 00:20:42,994 --> 00:20:47,572 You are in the experience, in the feeling. 397 00:20:47,574 --> 00:20:50,885 You feel safe, protected. 398 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:56,639 And the light, where is the light coming from? 399 00:20:56,641 --> 00:20:58,659 Almost like a portal being opened. 400 00:20:58,814 --> 00:21:03,985 It's being opened by a ship. 401 00:21:04,041 --> 00:21:09,465 Okay. What is the next thing that you experience? 402 00:21:09,641 --> 00:21:12,745 I'm starting to actually get a visual of... 403 00:21:12,801 --> 00:21:15,312 guess you could call them faces. 404 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:18,219 CORY: Who's there? Just beings. 405 00:21:18,374 --> 00:21:23,379 Do you get a sense of why you ended up there, 406 00:21:23,554 --> 00:21:25,525 not someone else? 407 00:21:25,527 --> 00:21:31,185 They're showing me just, like, a line from my family. 408 00:21:31,341 --> 00:21:33,779 Goes, they're just going back in time. 409 00:21:33,781 --> 00:21:37,532 They're saying that there's always been a connection to, 410 00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:40,672 a close connection, as far back as it goes. 411 00:21:40,827 --> 00:21:42,725 Okay. 412 00:21:42,727 --> 00:21:49,365 The biggest question that the abductees have is, "Why me?" 413 00:21:49,367 --> 00:21:51,905 "Why did this happen to me?" 414 00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:55,805 If they can sense that this happened not just to them, 415 00:21:55,961 --> 00:21:58,179 but to their parents and their grandparents, 416 00:21:58,334 --> 00:22:02,905 it brings some sort of closure, it starts to make sense to them 417 00:22:03,081 --> 00:22:06,979 and they start to feel that there's a real connection. 418 00:22:07,134 --> 00:22:09,132 It wasn't a random thing. 419 00:22:09,287 --> 00:22:11,087 Breathe in through the nose. 420 00:22:11,154 --> 00:22:14,345 As you exhale through the mouth, 421 00:22:14,501 --> 00:22:17,172 you're purging all of this energy. 422 00:22:17,174 --> 00:22:19,159 Let it go, let it go, yes. 423 00:22:21,714 --> 00:22:27,779 And slowly, slowly, whenever you're ready, open your eyes. 424 00:22:30,154 --> 00:22:32,939 Wow. 425 00:22:33,094 --> 00:22:34,125 Excellent. Yeah. 426 00:22:34,127 --> 00:22:36,752 Wow. 427 00:22:36,907 --> 00:22:38,677 Well, you did amazing. That was awesome. Thank you. You did... 428 00:22:38,701 --> 00:22:41,372 Thank you so much. Absolutely. 429 00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:44,365 There was a time where I was scared to find the answers 430 00:22:44,521 --> 00:22:47,472 because, I think, the whole unknown factor 431 00:22:47,627 --> 00:22:50,972 is a basic human fear: not knowing, 432 00:22:51,061 --> 00:22:53,959 the unknown, the abyss, the dark. 433 00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:56,732 But I needed those answers 'cause I needed some sort of 434 00:22:56,907 --> 00:22:59,885 explanation for what happened that night. 435 00:23:00,041 --> 00:23:01,637 All right, I think we're done for today. -Okay. 436 00:23:01,661 --> 00:23:04,725 NARRATOR: For Joe Cerletti, and others like him, 437 00:23:04,881 --> 00:23:07,605 hypnotic regression is an important tool 438 00:23:07,661 --> 00:23:12,352 in unlocking memories that may be buried due to trauma. 439 00:23:12,354 --> 00:23:15,485 But are there other, even more authoritative methods, 440 00:23:15,641 --> 00:23:21,739 that might help prove that alien abductions actually take place? 441 00:23:21,761 --> 00:23:24,472 Ancient astronaut theorists say yes, 442 00:23:24,474 --> 00:23:27,085 and point to recent experiments that collect 443 00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:31,179 convincing scientific data from the human brain. 444 00:23:38,894 --> 00:23:43,245 NARRATOR: Of the featured guests at AlienCon 2018, 445 00:23:43,247 --> 00:23:46,105 three claim to have had firsthand experience 446 00:23:46,107 --> 00:23:48,592 with extraterrestrials: 447 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:52,172 consciousness researcher Caroline Cory, 448 00:23:52,174 --> 00:23:56,745 Kathleen Marden, the director of Experiencer Research for MUFON, 449 00:23:56,901 --> 00:23:59,232 the Mutual UFO Network, 450 00:23:59,387 --> 00:24:03,005 and Bret Oldham, a man who claims to have had 451 00:24:03,007 --> 00:24:04,859 more than a dozen abduction experiences 452 00:24:04,881 --> 00:24:06,939 since the age of five. 453 00:24:07,114 --> 00:24:08,592 So many, in fact, 454 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:12,125 that he has authored three books on the subject. 455 00:24:12,281 --> 00:24:15,072 Uh, I was first taken when I was five years old, 456 00:24:15,074 --> 00:24:17,525 and the memories were suppressed 457 00:24:17,527 --> 00:24:19,779 all the way up until I was in my early 20s. 458 00:24:19,934 --> 00:24:23,325 And it was through the therapy that I discovered the truth 459 00:24:23,327 --> 00:24:25,292 of what had been happening to me. 460 00:24:25,294 --> 00:24:27,205 The psychological damage of being taken 461 00:24:27,207 --> 00:24:30,099 and having sexual experiments performed on you, 462 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:32,245 and being subjected to a lot of things like that. 463 00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:34,525 I decided not to become a victim to it. 464 00:24:34,581 --> 00:24:40,579 And it took me 20, 20 some years to get enough nerve 465 00:24:40,581 --> 00:24:43,205 to come forward and face what was out there, 466 00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:45,052 because I wanted to become a voice 467 00:24:45,207 --> 00:24:47,132 for others who have had these experiences. 468 00:24:47,287 --> 00:24:51,645 For more than a decade, Bret Oldham has been an advocate 469 00:24:51,801 --> 00:24:55,499 for those who claim to have had similar experiences. 470 00:24:55,674 --> 00:24:58,032 Like all abductees, he has faced 471 00:24:58,187 --> 00:25:02,292 both skepticism and scorn from the public. 472 00:25:02,294 --> 00:25:04,145 This is a worldwide phenomena, it's happening 473 00:25:04,147 --> 00:25:08,592 in a grand scale and it's happening to all walks of life. 474 00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,499 POPE: Thank you very much. 475 00:25:17,521 --> 00:25:19,892 NARRATOR: Earlier this year, in an effort to learn 476 00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:22,119 if his abduction memories 477 00:25:22,121 --> 00:25:24,319 could be clinically proven, Bret agreed 478 00:25:24,341 --> 00:25:27,785 to submit to a scientific test. 479 00:25:27,841 --> 00:25:30,552 Why don't you come on back? Sure. -Great, thanks. 480 00:25:30,707 --> 00:25:32,945 NARRATOR: If successful, the test, 481 00:25:33,021 --> 00:25:36,245 involving an EEG scan of Bret's brain, 482 00:25:36,301 --> 00:25:38,139 could go a long way 483 00:25:38,294 --> 00:25:40,805 toward proving that extraterrestrial abductions 484 00:25:40,807 --> 00:25:43,932 are actually taking place. 485 00:25:44,087 --> 00:25:48,799 Conducting the test is neuroscientist Dr. Dario Nardi, 486 00:25:48,954 --> 00:25:50,465 under the supervision 487 00:25:50,541 --> 00:25:55,005 of former British Ministry of Defence investigator, Nick Pope. 488 00:25:55,007 --> 00:25:58,039 Okay, we will be using, um, this little piece of equipment today. 489 00:25:58,194 --> 00:25:59,899 Are you familiar with EEG? 490 00:26:00,074 --> 00:26:01,425 I'm familiar with it. 491 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:02,730 NARDI: There are no wires or whatnot, 492 00:26:02,754 --> 00:26:04,339 there's just these little sensors. 493 00:26:04,341 --> 00:26:06,905 And I will be placing this on your head like this. 494 00:26:07,061 --> 00:26:09,219 Okay. 495 00:26:09,374 --> 00:26:13,019 NARRATOR: An EEG, or electroencephalography, 496 00:26:13,061 --> 00:26:15,119 is a noninvasive method of measuring 497 00:26:15,141 --> 00:26:19,179 the electrochemical activity of the neurons in the brain. 498 00:26:19,181 --> 00:26:22,399 It works by placing a network of electrodes 499 00:26:22,554 --> 00:26:25,779 over areas of the scalp, which can, in turn, register 500 00:26:25,934 --> 00:26:28,819 not only the area of the brain that is being stimulated, 501 00:26:28,974 --> 00:26:32,852 but also the degree of stimulation. 502 00:26:33,007 --> 00:26:34,283 We can make a couple of inferences 503 00:26:34,307 --> 00:26:35,885 when we see the brain activity. 504 00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:39,379 One is, if we see what are called alpha waves 505 00:26:39,554 --> 00:26:43,059 in particular, in the temporal regions of the brain, 506 00:26:43,214 --> 00:26:45,119 then that's gonna give us a good idea 507 00:26:45,121 --> 00:26:48,312 that the person is recalling something from memory. 508 00:26:48,314 --> 00:26:51,665 On the other hand, if we see, uh, activity more 509 00:26:51,721 --> 00:26:53,579 in the front of the brain, 510 00:26:53,581 --> 00:26:55,579 where there's maybe not those alpha waves 511 00:26:55,734 --> 00:26:57,672 of some other kind of activity, 512 00:26:57,761 --> 00:27:01,325 then that's gonna suggest that the person is crafting something 513 00:27:01,501 --> 00:27:04,672 or coming up with an answer or explanation in the moment. 514 00:27:04,781 --> 00:27:07,112 So we can differentiate sort of 515 00:27:07,114 --> 00:27:10,432 storytelling versus accessing the memory. 516 00:27:10,434 --> 00:27:13,652 NARRATOR: Nick will ask Bret a series of questions 517 00:27:13,807 --> 00:27:16,405 about his abduction experiences, 518 00:27:16,561 --> 00:27:19,599 and Dr. Nardi will observe the neural activity 519 00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:22,545 that occurs during Bret's responses. 520 00:27:22,701 --> 00:27:26,165 If, for example, Bret is inventing or making up 521 00:27:26,321 --> 00:27:29,365 his answers, it should show up as activity 522 00:27:29,521 --> 00:27:33,719 on the part of the brain most associated with imagination. 523 00:27:35,181 --> 00:27:38,452 NARDI: Okay. We are ready to go. 524 00:27:38,454 --> 00:27:41,419 Well, perhaps, uh, first of all, Bret, 525 00:27:41,421 --> 00:27:43,639 was there a single incident that started this? 526 00:27:43,641 --> 00:27:45,285 Uh, there was. 527 00:27:45,287 --> 00:27:47,859 Um, we lived in Southern Illinois, 528 00:27:48,014 --> 00:27:53,272 in an old farmhouse surrounded by just cornfields and soybean 529 00:27:53,361 --> 00:27:55,852 and stuff like that, and I'd lived a pretty innocent life 530 00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:57,739 up until that point. 531 00:27:57,894 --> 00:28:00,645 One night, I heard a voice, 532 00:28:00,801 --> 00:28:03,125 and I actually thought it was my stepdad, 533 00:28:03,281 --> 00:28:06,439 'cause it's very, very quiet out in the country. 534 00:28:06,461 --> 00:28:08,139 Did the voice say something? 535 00:28:08,141 --> 00:28:11,572 The voice was coaxing me to come to the window. 536 00:28:11,681 --> 00:28:15,725 I got up and I walked across the floor. 537 00:28:15,881 --> 00:28:18,012 I could see a light coming through. 538 00:28:18,187 --> 00:28:20,752 It just kept coaxing me to come, 539 00:28:20,841 --> 00:28:23,525 and I was just a curious little boy. 540 00:28:23,681 --> 00:28:25,392 And I remember raising my hand up 541 00:28:25,547 --> 00:28:28,405 and pulling back the curtains, 542 00:28:28,407 --> 00:28:30,492 and that's when I came face-to-face 543 00:28:30,494 --> 00:28:32,439 with what we now know as a Grey. 544 00:28:35,774 --> 00:28:38,519 So what did you think it was? I had no idea. 545 00:28:38,674 --> 00:28:40,479 I had never seen anything like that before. 546 00:28:40,634 --> 00:28:44,812 And before I could scream for help or anything, 547 00:28:44,987 --> 00:28:48,332 the next thing I remember was laying on a table, 548 00:28:48,487 --> 00:28:51,252 surrounded by these things. 549 00:28:51,261 --> 00:28:54,152 And you said, uh, before you could scream, 550 00:28:54,154 --> 00:28:55,619 so I presume from what you're saying 551 00:28:55,621 --> 00:28:58,359 that you were very scared. Very scared. 552 00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:01,392 That first incident made such an indelible mark in my psyche 553 00:29:01,547 --> 00:29:03,539 that I-I had nightmares about it, 554 00:29:03,694 --> 00:29:06,192 up until just several years ago. 555 00:29:06,347 --> 00:29:08,639 Even now, after all the time, 556 00:29:08,641 --> 00:29:12,132 how does it make you feel looking back on that incident 557 00:29:12,134 --> 00:29:15,119 and what's your, what's your bottom line on this, 558 00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:18,199 in terms of what you think's going on? 559 00:29:18,201 --> 00:29:21,285 I don't think anyone really knows what their true agenda is. 560 00:29:21,441 --> 00:29:23,239 You know, some people speculate 561 00:29:23,241 --> 00:29:24,737 that they're gonna take over our planet. 562 00:29:24,761 --> 00:29:26,165 Uh, I don't. 563 00:29:26,321 --> 00:29:27,765 I-I think if they were gonna do that, 564 00:29:27,941 --> 00:29:30,405 they would have already done it. Right. 565 00:29:30,461 --> 00:29:33,532 NARRATOR: After Nick and Bret finish their session, 566 00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:36,679 Dr. Nardi shares the EEG results, 567 00:29:36,834 --> 00:29:40,625 and what they reveal about Bret and his story. 568 00:29:40,627 --> 00:29:46,665 So we had about 45 minutes worth of data. 569 00:29:46,821 --> 00:29:50,419 You asked questions that truly were speculative questions, 570 00:29:50,421 --> 00:29:52,719 versus ones that were asking for literal recall. 571 00:29:52,721 --> 00:29:54,799 And we saw that, really, they were activating 572 00:29:54,821 --> 00:29:57,559 in very different parts of the brain. 573 00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,352 Consistently, when you asked him to speculate, 574 00:30:00,354 --> 00:30:02,492 like, "Why do you think that they do this," 575 00:30:02,647 --> 00:30:04,485 then clearly, we see this region of the brain 576 00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:07,232 in the left hemisphere sort of by the left temple here, 577 00:30:07,407 --> 00:30:09,185 that that would get active. 578 00:30:09,187 --> 00:30:11,532 So that, that was a really good baseline. 579 00:30:11,534 --> 00:30:15,865 In contrast, there were at least a half a dozen moments 580 00:30:15,921 --> 00:30:19,459 which really strongly activated over on this side instead, 581 00:30:19,461 --> 00:30:23,232 which is associated more with literal recall. 582 00:30:23,234 --> 00:30:26,139 In other words, uh, we're just gonna give the facts, 583 00:30:26,294 --> 00:30:29,185 and the details, or rather, recall without embellishment. 584 00:30:29,341 --> 00:30:32,079 Indicative of an actual memory? 585 00:30:32,234 --> 00:30:33,345 Most of the time. 586 00:30:33,501 --> 00:30:36,665 NARRATOR: "Recall without embellishment?" 587 00:30:36,741 --> 00:30:41,712 Could this result be evidence that Bret's story is true, 588 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:44,739 and that these abductions really took place? 589 00:30:44,741 --> 00:30:49,185 Those moments that you described like sitting with the tall Grey, 590 00:30:49,187 --> 00:30:52,292 that's what that looked like in the brain. 591 00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:56,179 By differentiating between memory and speculation, 592 00:30:56,334 --> 00:31:01,899 in one sense the EEG machine acted as a sort of polygraph. 593 00:31:02,054 --> 00:31:04,945 The fact that the part of the brain involved in memory 594 00:31:05,121 --> 00:31:07,259 lit up and was activated, 595 00:31:07,261 --> 00:31:12,279 says to me that this is a genuine experience. 596 00:31:12,321 --> 00:31:14,565 This is not a hoax. 597 00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:17,825 This is not somebody who's making the whole thing up. 598 00:31:17,981 --> 00:31:19,261 Well, Dario, thank you very much. 599 00:31:19,394 --> 00:31:21,059 This has been very interesting, 600 00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:22,790 and I think we've got lots of great data here. 601 00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:24,665 Thank you. Absolutely. 602 00:31:24,821 --> 00:31:26,745 It's my pleasure. Really appreciate it. 603 00:31:26,901 --> 00:31:28,617 OLDHAM: The journey is always going to continue for me. 604 00:31:28,641 --> 00:31:32,139 I'm always going to want to delve deeper into these events, 605 00:31:32,161 --> 00:31:36,119 into what I remember, and find out what I don't remember. 606 00:31:36,274 --> 00:31:39,639 And I still don't have all the answers. 607 00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:42,999 NARRATOR: If, as the EEG data suggests, 608 00:31:43,174 --> 00:31:44,939 Bret Oldham's claims 609 00:31:45,094 --> 00:31:47,319 of extraterrestrial abduction are true, 610 00:31:47,341 --> 00:31:51,865 does it help prove that alien abductions are really happening? 611 00:31:51,941 --> 00:31:54,352 But why? 612 00:31:54,527 --> 00:31:57,685 And for what purpose? 613 00:31:57,841 --> 00:32:01,579 Perhaps further clues can be found by examining evidence 614 00:32:01,621 --> 00:32:04,932 that aliens have been altering human biology. 615 00:32:05,107 --> 00:32:10,239 And not just for generations, but for thousands of years. 616 00:32:16,134 --> 00:32:18,225 NARRATOR: Lancaster, New Hampshire. 617 00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:21,745 September 19, 1961. 618 00:32:21,801 --> 00:32:26,092 Betty and Barney Hill are driving late at night 619 00:32:26,101 --> 00:32:28,485 when a large flying saucer intercepts them 620 00:32:28,661 --> 00:32:31,872 and hovers over their car. 621 00:32:31,874 --> 00:32:34,025 Above them, the Hills observe 622 00:32:34,201 --> 00:32:38,212 otherworldly figures in the windows of the craft. 623 00:32:38,214 --> 00:32:42,672 Days later, the couple reports missing time 624 00:32:42,674 --> 00:32:45,279 and after participating in hypnotic regression, 625 00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:47,279 they claim to realize 626 00:32:47,434 --> 00:32:50,592 that they were abducted by extraterrestrials. 627 00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:55,605 In the decades that follow, the Betty and Barney Hill case 628 00:32:55,761 --> 00:32:58,952 becomes the most well-known and investigated abduction encounter 629 00:32:59,041 --> 00:33:00,719 in modern history. 630 00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:04,145 But according to Betty and Barney's descendants, 631 00:33:04,147 --> 00:33:07,399 the incident in Lancaster is only one part 632 00:33:07,554 --> 00:33:09,799 of a much larger story, 633 00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:13,325 a story that actually began three years prior 634 00:33:13,401 --> 00:33:16,985 with an incident involving Betty's sister. 635 00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:21,532 Betty Hill was my aunt, my mother's sister. 636 00:33:21,534 --> 00:33:25,825 Something that we have never revealed before 637 00:33:25,827 --> 00:33:30,505 is that my mother had a close encounter in 1958. 638 00:33:30,581 --> 00:33:34,452 She saw this huge, cigar-shaped craft 639 00:33:34,627 --> 00:33:36,972 hovering over a field. 640 00:33:37,127 --> 00:33:42,485 She had no explanation for what had happened as far as she knew. 641 00:33:42,641 --> 00:33:46,172 She had gone shopping and she had driven home. 642 00:33:46,327 --> 00:33:50,685 My mother eventually underwent hypnosis 643 00:33:50,687 --> 00:33:54,225 and through hypnosis, she recalled 644 00:33:54,381 --> 00:33:57,019 having been abducted as well. 645 00:33:57,174 --> 00:34:01,392 And I also had this uncanny 646 00:34:01,481 --> 00:34:03,492 sort of dreamlike experience 647 00:34:03,494 --> 00:34:06,312 of being taken to a craft. 648 00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:10,019 It bothered me for many, many years. 649 00:34:10,174 --> 00:34:14,332 Eventually, I did talk to my family about it 650 00:34:14,334 --> 00:34:18,379 and that's when I found out that my mother had the same memory. 651 00:34:18,421 --> 00:34:21,459 NARRATOR: Could it be that extraterrestrial beings 652 00:34:21,614 --> 00:34:24,572 are abducting not only individuals, 653 00:34:24,681 --> 00:34:26,439 but also families? 654 00:34:26,461 --> 00:34:29,752 And if so, why? 655 00:34:29,754 --> 00:34:32,445 The abduction phenomenon is intergenerational. 656 00:34:32,621 --> 00:34:34,712 When a man and a woman marry 657 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,559 and either the man or the woman is an abductee, 658 00:34:37,714 --> 00:34:40,225 their children will be abductees. 659 00:34:40,227 --> 00:34:45,445 POPE: It seems that specific bloodlines are involved here. 660 00:34:45,601 --> 00:34:47,785 And if that's the case, 661 00:34:47,787 --> 00:34:50,612 it raises the intriguing possibility 662 00:34:50,767 --> 00:34:54,772 that the extraterrestrials are interested in human biology, 663 00:34:54,927 --> 00:34:57,799 that they are monitoring specific genetic lines 664 00:34:57,821 --> 00:34:59,739 for some purpose. 665 00:34:59,914 --> 00:35:04,445 NARRATOR: For ancient astronaut theorists and UFO researchers, 666 00:35:04,601 --> 00:35:07,105 the notion that extraterrestrials 667 00:35:07,181 --> 00:35:09,992 are conducting experiments involving human biology 668 00:35:10,101 --> 00:35:11,659 is not a new one. 669 00:35:11,814 --> 00:35:14,705 Many believe the practice has been going on 670 00:35:14,861 --> 00:35:18,759 for thousands of years. 671 00:35:18,914 --> 00:35:21,272 TZADOK: Maybe there's some truth to these entities 672 00:35:21,427 --> 00:35:23,419 which we call shedim. 673 00:35:23,574 --> 00:35:25,312 These are old legends 674 00:35:25,467 --> 00:35:29,812 of people who are abducted, sexually seduced 675 00:35:29,967 --> 00:35:33,279 and some taken away. 676 00:35:33,434 --> 00:35:36,145 And when we hear today about the numerous stories 677 00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:39,619 of alien abductions throughout history, 678 00:35:39,621 --> 00:35:41,952 they are identical. 679 00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:44,119 NARRATOR: For proof that their theories 680 00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:48,025 about the biological nature of alien abductions are valid, 681 00:35:48,081 --> 00:35:50,125 researchers point to the fact 682 00:35:50,127 --> 00:35:54,479 that a relatively high number of abductees, more than 60%, 683 00:35:54,521 --> 00:35:57,545 have an extraordinarily rare blood type: 684 00:35:57,601 --> 00:36:00,559 Rh negative. 685 00:36:00,714 --> 00:36:05,805 The subject kept coming up from the abductees: "I'm Rh negative." 686 00:36:05,807 --> 00:36:09,419 "Could it have anything to do with why I'm being abducted?" 687 00:36:09,441 --> 00:36:15,039 I got to collaborate with a doctor, Dr. John Altshuler, 688 00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:19,225 and he did pathology; he did blood work. 689 00:36:19,281 --> 00:36:24,605 And he gave the conclusion that Rh negative blood 690 00:36:24,761 --> 00:36:29,645 might actually be a genetic data point 691 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:35,539 about why humans could be hybrids, 692 00:36:35,541 --> 00:36:38,405 that every Rh negative 693 00:36:38,581 --> 00:36:41,932 would be coming from a history of abductions. 694 00:36:42,107 --> 00:36:45,985 MONTALDO: Rh negative is a very peculiar thing. 695 00:36:45,987 --> 00:36:49,172 First off, it didn't exist until 35,000 years ago. 696 00:36:49,347 --> 00:36:52,159 It may have been that 35,000 years ago, 697 00:36:52,201 --> 00:36:54,259 E.T. introduced this into our society 698 00:36:54,414 --> 00:36:57,319 through whatever breeding programs they've been running. 699 00:36:57,321 --> 00:37:00,199 The ancient astronaut theory suggests 700 00:37:00,354 --> 00:37:03,199 that for thousands of years, 701 00:37:03,201 --> 00:37:05,879 extraterrestrials meddled with our DNA. 702 00:37:05,921 --> 00:37:10,685 There was a time when we were Homo sapiens. 703 00:37:10,861 --> 00:37:14,205 And then we became Homo sapiens sapiens. 704 00:37:14,361 --> 00:37:17,659 And that happened within only 50,000 years, 705 00:37:17,814 --> 00:37:20,719 which by Darwinian evolutionary standards, 706 00:37:20,874 --> 00:37:24,745 is too short of a time span for that to happen. 707 00:37:24,901 --> 00:37:29,672 Our brain volume increased by up to 30% 708 00:37:29,847 --> 00:37:32,939 in 50,000 years, which is absolutely crazy. 709 00:37:33,094 --> 00:37:35,972 Now, the reason why I think 710 00:37:36,127 --> 00:37:39,232 that modern-day abductions occur 711 00:37:39,321 --> 00:37:44,659 is because maybe we are still being manipulated with our DNA 712 00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:46,692 from extraterrestrials 713 00:37:46,781 --> 00:37:50,185 in order to turn us from Homo sapiens sapiens 714 00:37:50,261 --> 00:37:54,139 into Homo sapiens sapiens sapiens. 715 00:37:54,181 --> 00:37:57,919 NARRATOR: Have extraterrestrials been abducting people 716 00:37:58,094 --> 00:38:01,752 in order to monitor the evolutionary progress of humans? 717 00:38:01,841 --> 00:38:06,099 Or have they been deliberately manipulating our biology 718 00:38:06,254 --> 00:38:09,012 in order to achieve some ultimate purpose? 719 00:38:09,167 --> 00:38:12,305 Ancient astronaut theorists claim 720 00:38:12,307 --> 00:38:16,405 that both possibilities are likely true and for this reason, 721 00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:20,605 it is more important than ever for us to hear the stories 722 00:38:20,661 --> 00:38:24,159 of those who say they have been taken. 723 00:38:29,894 --> 00:38:31,759 NARRATOR: Pasadena, California. 724 00:38:31,914 --> 00:38:36,252 June 16, 2018. 725 00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:40,165 Throughout a discussion about alien abductions 726 00:38:40,321 --> 00:38:42,079 during a panel at AlienCon, 727 00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:45,885 both the panelists and members of the audience 728 00:38:45,887 --> 00:38:48,592 remark on how difficult, but also important it is 729 00:38:48,747 --> 00:38:51,972 to speak out about abductions. 730 00:38:52,127 --> 00:38:55,239 I hesitated coming up here for a couple reasons. 731 00:38:55,414 --> 00:38:58,812 Um... 732 00:38:58,967 --> 00:39:02,899 Every topic that you guys have mentioned 733 00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:06,239 has connected dots actively right now today. 734 00:39:06,394 --> 00:39:09,359 As far as lineage, as far as bloodlines, 735 00:39:09,361 --> 00:39:11,105 as far as families, so generational. 736 00:39:11,161 --> 00:39:14,645 My mom, um, myself, my daughter. 737 00:39:14,647 --> 00:39:16,185 I had night terrors as a child, 738 00:39:16,361 --> 00:39:18,532 missing time as a child throughout my life. 739 00:39:18,534 --> 00:39:21,205 I literally have short-term memory deficits 740 00:39:21,261 --> 00:39:25,059 and specific things, real spontaneous phenomenon 741 00:39:25,214 --> 00:39:27,705 that ultimately touches on everything that 742 00:39:27,861 --> 00:39:29,990 you guys are talking about. POPE: Thank you very much. 743 00:39:30,014 --> 00:39:32,679 These hardly ever seem to be one-off experiences. 744 00:39:32,854 --> 00:39:34,319 Thank you for sharing your story. 745 00:39:37,354 --> 00:39:39,939 I'd like to say, uh, I applaud you guys for your courage 746 00:39:40,094 --> 00:39:41,490 to come forward in front of all these people 747 00:39:41,514 --> 00:39:42,779 and share your story. 748 00:39:42,934 --> 00:39:45,112 I'm blown away by the amount of people 749 00:39:45,267 --> 00:39:47,072 that, uh, show up at this panel. 750 00:39:47,227 --> 00:39:50,025 And when I see this kind of, uh, support, it's very encouraging 751 00:39:50,181 --> 00:39:51,532 and I think that's very important 752 00:39:51,687 --> 00:39:53,932 to bring this phenomenon out into the light 753 00:39:53,934 --> 00:39:55,865 where it needs to be because a lot of answers 754 00:39:55,867 --> 00:39:57,645 lie with the experiencers. 755 00:39:57,821 --> 00:39:59,079 So I just thank you for that. 756 00:40:04,681 --> 00:40:08,165 Coming forward to admit that you've had some type 757 00:40:08,321 --> 00:40:11,892 of a close encounter, whether it is seeing something 758 00:40:11,901 --> 00:40:14,112 or maybe you've been abducted, 759 00:40:14,267 --> 00:40:17,039 that is a very difficult thing to admit. 760 00:40:17,194 --> 00:40:20,599 And that is why I think 761 00:40:20,774 --> 00:40:24,285 we really should look at all the other pieces of evidence: 762 00:40:24,287 --> 00:40:27,699 abduction cases or close encounters 763 00:40:27,854 --> 00:40:30,392 and say, "Okay, what if?" 764 00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:34,372 I'm happy today that I'm finally able to say 765 00:40:34,527 --> 00:40:37,699 it's not only real, it's happening. 766 00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:41,065 Great. Hearing those stories is of help 767 00:40:41,067 --> 00:40:44,765 to any of you out there who have had these strange experiences. 768 00:40:44,921 --> 00:40:47,119 And you are not alone with this, as you can see. 769 00:40:47,121 --> 00:40:50,639 So thank you to you and thank you to my fellow panelists. 770 00:40:50,794 --> 00:40:55,139 When you look at the vast body of data 771 00:40:55,294 --> 00:40:57,785 that we have on this phenomenon, 772 00:40:57,961 --> 00:40:59,732 it's difficult to avoid the conclusion 773 00:40:59,907 --> 00:41:01,725 that something is going on here. 774 00:41:01,781 --> 00:41:03,799 Why should we, therefore, 775 00:41:03,954 --> 00:41:06,959 cast away the stories of the abductees 776 00:41:06,981 --> 00:41:09,619 just because we may feel a little uncomfortable 777 00:41:09,774 --> 00:41:11,539 with the place that takes us? 778 00:41:13,701 --> 00:41:15,992 NARRATOR: Each year, thousands of people 779 00:41:16,147 --> 00:41:18,225 are bravely coming forward 780 00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:21,645 with personal accounts of alien abductions. 781 00:41:21,821 --> 00:41:24,372 But is the world's growing willingness 782 00:41:24,527 --> 00:41:27,352 to hear them and believe them a sign 783 00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,559 that humanity might be on the brink 784 00:41:29,714 --> 00:41:33,439 of an exciting new period in its evolution, 785 00:41:33,481 --> 00:41:38,352 one where we will discover that centuries of alien contact 786 00:41:38,361 --> 00:41:40,919 has changed us in ways we could never 787 00:41:40,941 --> 00:41:43,545 have previously imagined or accepted? 788 00:41:43,601 --> 00:41:47,332 Perhaps a greater acceptance 789 00:41:47,487 --> 00:41:49,645 that alien contact is being made 790 00:41:49,801 --> 00:41:52,259 will prepare us for the future, 791 00:41:52,281 --> 00:41:56,019 a future where we will become 792 00:41:56,041 --> 00:41:59,559 the extraterrestrials on other worlds 793 00:41:59,714 --> 00:42:04,879 and encounter other life-forms not so different from our own. 794 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Colored & Hearing Improved By SidBrothers_3 61979

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